Fore Play - “Snap That Son of a Gun”: Full Presidents Cup Recap

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

USA wins the 2022 Presidents Cup. Fore Play meets the 43rd President of the United States, George W Bush. We react to it all. Plus: Frankie sustains an injury; how does the Presidents Cup juice stack up; Max Homa is awesome; Tom Kim is also awesome; Kiz leads the party; should one be allowed to get upset over a non-given putt? And more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Thanks so much. Oh, yeah. Foreplay brought to you by Marshall Sports. Presented as always by Chevy. I want to get into Chevy, but first I have to set up the show because it's a massive one. We're doing a knee-jerk reaction podcast right after the President's Cup.

We only do these five times a year, major championships, and then Ryder Cup or President's Cup. So we've got a lot to get to. This one's special for a lot of reasons because we're going to go through, you know, talking point after talking point, player after player, moment, all kinds of stuff. But we also have, for the first time, presidential interactions to go through, including our very own Trent Ryan, who is now a TikTok star after falling in love with TikTok. He's a TikTok star. so we have much, much to get to. I hope everyone is well. We're doing it via Zoom because we're all over the country,

kind of back to our normal. I'm in Connecticut. Dan Ratport's in Colorado. Frankie and Trent, I believe are on Long Island, so we're kind of all over the place. But I'm looking at Brandel with his hair and everything, talking about the whole president's cups.

We've got a lot to get to. How are we boys? Everybody feeling good. Happy to be talking. Yeah, it's nice to see you guys. I'm looking forward to seeing you again. person. I'm feeling a little withdrawal. I feel like we've spent a lot of time together recently. I don't miss you that. I don't miss you guys that much, but I am feeling good. I enjoyed watching

from my couch today. It was football Sunday. It was also fun to be able to just go back and forth a lot. It was just, I don't know if there's a better month than October. I'm counting this really as October, the end of September and October. You've got football, hockey preseason was on today. We had the fucking Presidents Cup on today. The Yankees are on tonight. Game of Thrones is on. Like everything about Sundays and the weekends in the fall is just, and the President's Cup today delivered, amazing puts, fist pumps. Crowd was going fucking bananas. But yeah, we had a hell of a week. So it's been nice to just be home and just kind of recap it all.

You guys almost did lose me today, by the way. Why is that? How so? Well, I almost lost my life. And I'm just stronger than other people that have gotten hit in the head. But I want to show you, are you guys, like, prepared for what's going to be under this hat? I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty gory, honestly. Did you get hit in the head with a golf ball?

It's honestly, pretty gory. I don't know if you can see that. Is that showing up? What happened to you? The horror. Oh, my God. I feel like I'm on gore.com. Hold on.

I'm going to throw up. I don't know. I don't know. Let me turn this up. No, no, we can see it. We can definitely see it. Turn the contrast up. Turn the shadows up.

See that? Yes. So we have this little bar area set up. And Hannah and I are trying to get to the back of it because we're trying to put a cable box back there and getting it back. And getting it back. on the fucking rack was a nightmare. She's too short.

She couldn't get over the fucking counter. I'm over there. So now at one point we're about to get it up. And I slam my head like backwards. Like I jerk my head behind the TV. I go, are you on yet? And as I do that, I catch the corner of the fucking cabinet.

How did you, how did you take it on a scale of one to Bryson DeShambo? So I already know that answer. I already know how to win that. I cried a little bit. Like tears came out. And she laughed. The TV fell

because she's laughing so hard of me. And I'm like, stop fucking laughing at me. And I walk and I stumbled. I actually thought I had a concussion.

I stumbled. Like, I actually walked away. I took three steps and I went, oh God. And I fucking caught myself. And she's like,

you're bleeding. I'm like, oh my God. I was like, I don't even know what happened to me. I told her I was seeing stars. I was seeing stars.

But I got right up. I didn't blame the cabinet. I didn't get mad at my partner, like caddy, the person that was with me. So Bryson can learn a thing or two here. I took full blame on my own. I could have avoided the corner of that cabinet. Had I just had the slightest bit of awareness of where that cabinet was, there's no chance I'd be bleeding all over my bar. So I take full responsibility for completely severing and slicing my head open to the point where I probably need stitches. And yeah, this is just how you take a gruesome head injury.

So Bryce and Deschambeau, you can learn a thing or two from this. You also deserve credit as a showman because I'm stunned. This is the first we're hearing about it. I can't believe you didn't tweet about it or do a Twitter live, go on Instagram live and show people that gruesome gaping head injury that you have. It's a testament to your commitment to this podcast that you saved it for the show because, buddy, you deserve a hospital visit looking at that wound. You can't go out of public with that. How many beers, boys? How many beers?

You look like you did 15 rounds against, like. Apollo Creed. Yeah. Wow. I got through it though, you know, guys bad. Proud of you. Proud of you. Uh, all right. Chevy. I have a Chevy. I rented a Chevy. So I'm a, uh, rental car for the week. I got a Chevy Malibu actually. It's kind of fire. It's kind of fire. It's kind of fire. Nice. Yeah. We got to talk about the Chevy EV. How's the infotainment? How's the infotainment situation? Um, phenomenal. I actually, you know, I don't know that this is, um, we're in rental cars all the time. And. And you never know what you're going to get in terms of the car play and the whole deal and what you can sync up to and what you can't.

My phone's old enough that like I can't. When I plug it in with a normal iPhone cord, it doesn't stay. So if I try to hook that up to the car play thing, it's in and out and it's a disaster trying to get maps because I always need directions. This Chevy Malibu has Bluetooth and through and through. A lot of times you only get Bluetooth for audio. You can only Bluetooth a podcast or music or something. this is Bluetooth through and through I get within a fucking 10 or 20 feet

of this fucking car and I'm just Bluetooth into it I was listening to President's Cup earlier in the day I had to drive up to Connecticut I got the maps on there I got all kinds of podcasts that I want and the Malibu it's just sexy looking we're going to talk about the EVs

so a lot of people might think that EVs are only for rich people no no no from Bolt to the Blazer Equinox to the Silverado Chevy EVs are for everyone everywhere A few of the Chevy's beloved and bestselling have been designed as electric vehicle models powered by Ultium for an all electric future. Equinox EV, Blazer EV, and Silverado EV are powered by Aldiom. I got to talk about the Blazor EVs.

This Blazer EV is going to be in my ownership. I want a Blazer bad. By next year, I will own a Blazor EV. So you've made a decision. Blazor it is. I think so. I mean, look, it's only been a week. I was on Google images, I think, just looking at Blazer EVs while we were following like Max Homer

Inside the Ropes. And it's not like I'm committing to the next 10 years or what I'm going to drive around. But as of right now, I think I'm in on the Blazor EV. The Blazer is a sexy-ass car. It's also got a lot of history. I was looking at some of the old school Blazers that people soup up a little bit. They got kind of like the really cool old school cult kind of following for the Blazers. So the Blazers just got some mojo, I would say. and I love the Chevy Logger. I completely agree. I mean, the infotamance system inside is the thing that hooked me.

I was looking through their website and all of a sudden it just popped to me. I said, what the hell is this thing? And it was the Blazer. It's a beautiful looking SUV. It's fully, you know, electric. The EVs are the way of the future. I definitely want to get one. I've been talking about electric vehicles for a long time in this podcast.

I think that the way that the world is going, we're going to need these things. And Chevy is at the forefront of just like changing the world. They've always been at the forefront of changing the world. We talked about the facts last week. They've been doing the damn thing since 1911. 1911. SUVs that came out with in the early 1930s, which is a stunning fact.

Guess how much the first Chevrolet car sold for? $128. I'm going to guess. That's a good guess. $74. I'm going to guess $165. $2,150. I mean, you guys are acting like this wasn't like the most ridiculous piece of technology

that ever came out for us. Well, it's funny that you say that. It was a car in 1911. Like, it was all the money people at. I also forgot. I forgot that like eventually they got it to the point where it was affordable for people. But you're right.

It's like the early cell phones. Like 1970. That was like 10. Back pack. Yeah. It was like 10 million dollars. And in reality, now they can just do that for a little chip in your phone. But anyways, EV, Chevy.

They're great. We love Chevy. Established full line brand like Chevrolet. They can also offer multiple EV vehicles, the volume variety and the value. and the value customers all over the world have come to expect. EVs for everyone everywhere. President's Cup, 2022. United States wins 17 and a half, 212 and a half, I believe, is the final.

The closing ceremony is coming up. So we might get some beer chugs or some wild shit that we can react to in real time. We're going to get to the President's Cup. We've got to start with the real news of the week, which is that we, as the three of us, myself, Frankie and Trent, all encountered President George W. Bush. It was him and Clinton came on Friday morning. They have notoriously come to this event. I was on Google image or Getty images trying to find all kinds of photos from this whole thing. And you forget these guys have done this a lot. They came with Obama one year. And this is kind of

their thing. They come to the President's Cup. By far, the highlight of the entire thing was Trent Ryan, just could not get a handshake from President George W. Bush. Trent, at this point, how are you feeling about your encounter that is with, you know, one of maybe top 10 or 15 kind of most gravitas names that you could have a potential handshake encounter with? I feel good about it now because it did so well on social media. It's all for the content. It is because Frankie can attest to this right after it happened. I was like, I just encountered and had one of the most embarrassing experiences of my entire life. And I don't we can walk through the whole thing if you want.

I know Riggs encountered George W. Bush first and Frankie got video of that. But Riggs kind of snuck his way on there and encountered him first. And then it was it was Frankie and I. But Riggs, do you want to talk a little bit about your encounter first? And we can kind of go out chronologically. Yeah, that's a good. That's a good idea. The whole thing, Trent, was pretty fucking wild because the new setup this year for the

president's cup that they never had before is obviously the horseshoe around the first tee. But they did what the national predators do, which we went to a Pred's game this year after a Barstool Classic. And the Predators Rink Arena is built with this, like, amazing hospitality area built around where the team walks in the locker room onto the ice. So when they go out, you know, for warm-ups, for the first period, for the national anthems, and in between every period, you can literally have a beer and then stand right next to the whole team as they go out and go on to the ice.

And the President's Cup did the same thing. So they had this little tunnel that was underneath the stadium, but also around it was this like hospitality and PGA tour and kind of area. Well, we with our media credentials kind of on Thursday, I just ended up there. You guys were in the pen as they called it, the little, the little pig pen. Well, this is an incredible interaction we had. We're trying to get into the horseshoe area. Riggs is in there. We don't have full inside the ropes passes, but we have media passes that allow us to go to the players areas, the practice areas.

We have all these letters on our chest, so we really don't know where we're allowed to go. We think at some point, because Riggs is in there, Hannah Cook was in there, that we could just walk right in. So we go to walk in, and some guy just stops us as a police officer, and there's a guy from, like, maybe PGA tour security,

or it seemed as though he was part of, like, the media security or media team. And he looks at me, and he goes, uh, just hold off for a second. If you're not on the list, you're not getting, oh, no, I'm sorry. He didn't even give us a respect to do that. He actually looked at the guy who stopped us and said,

yeah, if they're not on the list, they're not getting in. Like, it was one of those where, like, he knew we were standing right in front of him, but he's not making eye contact him with us. And he's having a conversation about us while we're standing there. And he goes, honestly, I think they have them in like a pen or something on the other side of the first team. So we're like, what the fuck is this? At that point, I'm like, I think we have to, like, fight this guy. You know, I don't know what the correct response to that is aside from punching him in the mouth.

Like, for him to be like, I think you guys are stuff. in some pen on the side. So why don't you go check it over there and then make sure you take a shower before you come back. It's like, Jesus Christ, dude. So yeah, we went over to the pen while you went in. He basically told you to come back with a text. He basically was like, take a lap.

It was really bad. So I said, oh, we just got to go to the pen real quick. Oh, sorry, man. I apologize. Sorry. Sorry to even be in your presence. You guys were in the media pen, which is where they just pile all the normal media folk.

And you were like looking at the first tee from kind of in front of it. I had somehow, I had originally gone to the, actually to the fan entrance to the thing, because it's like a big, it's like you're entering a stadium. And the guys that were running that were like, hey, rigs were fans, but like, the only way to get up into the fan area is you have to just wait in this line with the fans. And I was like, I'm not waiting in this lot.

Like, what are you talking about? So they eventually like, this is the only way. And I was like, I'm going to find you something else out. So I go over by the putting green. The putting green has like a line through the crowd that goes into this tunnel. And I just ended up kind of meandering my way. over getting inching closer closer and finally a policeman and the charlotte police are giant barstool fans turns out um gave me the old like hey we're big fans uh how's it going this week i'm like great

i'm chatting it up and i was like i'm going to that tunnel is that cool right and he's like you go wherever you want i was like all right unreal so then i just walk into the tunnel and once i got into the tunnel there was no one around and we were probably 30 minutes away from the tea times on thursday and so i kind of went off to the side. I'm in that little hospitality area and I'm like, what about that? Like there's literally one final 40 foot stretch of the tunnel that is just where the players walk through.

And once they walk through, they are just on television about to hit a golf shot in the President's Cup. And so after one group goes through and Emelman gives his speech, Davis Love the 3rd gives his speech, everyone's coming and going in this tunnel. And I'm like, I think I could just go into that tunnel. So I walk out, going to the tunnel. I run into

Dewey, and now it's just me and Dewey standing at the end of the tunnel. And everybody comes through. JT comes through. He gives me a little head nod. I don't even know if this is on TV or not, but I'm looking at you guys in the pen. And I'm like, this is way better in the fucking pen.

So I just stood there for the whole day. It was great. No concern. So Friday, I went and ran that whole thing back. Well, as you guys saw, I didn't even see this.

Apparently when I made that same maneuver from the putting green through the tunnel, uh, William Clinton is right behind. Like, like kicking my heels trying to get through the goddamn tunnel. And it was crazy, do. Well, I want to say

from the side angle, we had heard rumblings that there were presidents on property. When we were driving into the golf course, we saw like a, the motor brigade. Is that what we're calling? Motorcade? Fuck. Motor brigade. I have a concussion.

I don't know if you guys. It's actually pretty amazing that you're even here. The fact that you're doing this podcast is really impressive. I want to be a head injury. Brain contusion. Fuck you, Trent. Fuck you. So the motor

brigade was going in and, you know, we heard some rumblies that there were presidents there. We didn't know who it was. So then we're on that side looking in and Trent goes, oh, there's Riggs Barstool as Riggs just floats on by through the player's entrance. And then two seconds later, he goes, oh, there's Bill Clinton. I go, what the fuck? And then Bill Clinton just stared at us smiled and did the presidential thing and he kind of floated on by. And we were like, what the fuck is going on right now? You led the presidents into the president's cup. which I didn't know. I legitimately didn't know there were whispers.

And so going through the whole thing, stand in the tunnel. And I look behind me and just kind of like trying to gather because I'm in this big crowd of people. And I just see the fucking president. I see William Jefferson Clinton 42 is just right next to me. And some pretty serious motherfuckers. And I'm just kind of I just hold, I guess.

I hold the line. I just kind of stand off to the side, but I'm in the tunnel. And the, the, kind of makes its way through and then they go out of the tunnel to the right and this is where they're they're posted up for the next hour is uh clinton george w bush 43 they're just in this corner with uh commissioner monahan's there freddie couples is there everyone's just in this fucking corner and we're in the tunnel and we're very close to the corner then you guys come up behind me you finally make your way out of the pin into the tunnel and right about that time i had sort of made my way to the front of the tunnel and I was assessing the situation and it was like after groups teed off it was pretty it was pretty chill and that's when people were interacting with the crowd there wasn't as much

focus on the tunnel so after one of the groups teed off I looked to you guys I said I'm going for it and I just walked out of the tunnel made a right and then I was just in the mix I was within five feet of George W Bush and Clinton they're taking pictures with everybody and I just stood there I didn't really talk to anybody a couple of the sign guys this is like where the sign people you know the guys that come up with the one up sign and all that, they come out and they stand in this little area too, which is great because all the players interact with the sign people. They come out, they take their hat off, they shake, they introduce themselves to the sign people. And so now I'm just kind of with the sign people. And it's like, that's fine. And then after about 15 or 20 minutes

of this, it was in between groups again. And President Bush is right in front of me, facing me, probably within five feet of me, but he's like scanning the crowd above me. And he's just interacting with the crowd. And yes, he is as good at working a crowd and working this little corner with the signed people and everybody as you could possibly imagine. All the rumors are true. He was just riffing. He was making people laugh.

He was phenomenal. And so now he's getting into it with the crowd. And the crowd's like like, like, W sign my hat. He'd be like, no. And then everybody would laugh. And they would all go crazy. And then they'd be like, like, you know, let's go Rangers.

And he'd be like, that's right, baby. And he'd do like a little baseball swing. Everybody would go crazy. And he's doing that, like scanning the crowd. And then eventually stop scanning the crowd. He kind of just looks right at me. And so I wasn't prepared because, again, I was just kind of like standing on the side for this moment.

He's looking right at me. So I just was like put my hand out and was like, Mr. President, Sam Bezoian, nice to meet you. He shakes my hands. He's like, where you from? Sam? And we just chatted for a few seconds. And I'm a little rattled because obviously.

the picture. I didn't take my hat off. Frankie took his hat off. It happened so quickly. I didn't have time to do a lot of things. A lot of people were talking about that, but I wasn't going to bring it up. Oh, I knew it because I was prepared. I was like, but I never had like a direct. This is when I'm going to meet him moment. It just sort of like fucking happened. And then we were just chatting for like 30 seconds and we were shooting the shit. And then the people behind me were chiming in about the conversation because the people behind me were stoolies and in four play fans. So now I'm like one, he's kind of looking at them, quipping him. It was just like a group conversation. And then for the next 10 minutes in that corner, I had already met him and

introduced him. So it was like we were just kind of, I was part of whatever he needed to the point where people were like, no, Mr. President, do you mind if I take a selfie? Like leaning out from the little hospitality area. And I just grabbed the phone and was like, let me just take it. And then President Bush goes, yeah, he's my professional. He'll take it. And everybody's like laughing. And I'm just taking pictures of President Bush. And I'm just part of the corner. It was like the corner was just, you were like in his circle. And the corner was just hop.

And that's, that's, that was my whole scene. I'm curious about the introduction. Did you, were you always going to go with Sam or, because I've, I've heard you introduce yourself to a lot of people and it's always rigs. So where is that line? Is it only with presidents of the United States? No, it's if people know that I'm rigs, I'm not going to be like Sam. Hey, hi, I'm Sam. Because then it leads to like a, oh, where's rigs?

And it's like a. whole fucking thing. And they're never going to call me Sam. Anyways, they're going to call me rigs as they know me as rigs. But like, I'm not going to introduce myself to the president of the United States of what my internet was on barstoolsports.com. Well, what did he say? Did you assume that Barstool came up in some capacity that he had any sort of awareness

of what we are? So Frankie and Trent, do you remember he used to comment on Barstool Instagram. Oh, yeah. He had commented a few times. And I know it probably wasn't him. Probably not him. Yeah. His official account had commented on a couple things that were very like George W. Bush type personality and comments.

So I thought there's a chance that like maybe. So I did say, I said, Mr. President, Sam Bozoian, really nice to meet you. I'm with Barstual Sports. And he just goes, all right, Sam. Shit. Oh, shit. Damn. It's like not a single click went off.

He just, all right, Sam. from and that was and then we just kind of were talking i kind of like that better that he was so nice to you despite like thinking that you were a total nobody or at least not knowing who you were that just shows that he's like a genuine nice dude who was in a good mood you was phenomenal i mean again he also had a great one of the sign guys was a firefighter and his boy next to him goes um because he kind of uh uh bush like met these guys and then a couple seconds later his buddy goes like oh mr president this guy's a firefighter and he looks right and he goes you're firefighter are you and the guy goes yeah and he goes, out of boy, and he gave him a fist bump.

It was phenomenal. I do want to say at this point in time, because I bet people are thinking it, it should not be this easy to get that close to a president. Like, I get that we have media credentials. I get that like, we were kind of supposed to be there, but not really. Like, of all the people in that area, we were probably like 45% supposed to be there. And I don't know what, what is Secret Service supposed to do, vet every single person who is in that tiny little area by the T-box?

Maybe. But I don't think it should be as easy as it was for Sam Bozoian to meet the former president of the United States of America. Couldn't agree more. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I, you know, it was one of those. I felt like I had fooled everyone. I felt like we had all fooled everyone. I was waiting for Monaghan even to walk over and be like, you better get the fuck out of here.

I didn't know. And then like I said, it was like you just kind of, it was like if you just conversed with the people around you, then everyone looked at you like, oh, yeah, that guy's supposed to be here for sure. And that went on until every group, you know, teed off. And then I will say in talking to him, because I did have a good, probably, I don't know what it was, 15 to 30 seconds or something where I was just chatting with him one on one. And it was the most nervous I've ever been to the point where for the next five minutes afterwards, I was, I noticed like my hands were just shaking. Right. You're a huge history guy. You love the history of the United States of America.

Huge history guy, huge elections guy, huge presidents guy, like I've done. That's what I read. I read his biography. I used to, I mean, I'll never forget. Like the first time that I really remember, like remembering shit as a person was, was like around 9-11, which I was probably, I guess, around 9-11, I was 13, 14 years old. So you're still pretty damn young, but I was like my freshman year high school. So I guess I was like 14.

And so that was early on in Bush's presidency. So for the next like seven years of my life, he was like my president. as I went from 13 or 14 years old to like an adult. And so that's like in terms of getting into politics and understanding, you know, government and the presidency and America's place in the world, he was like our guy. And so then him standing right there before me and just chatting with him was like, holy fuck. And it was, yeah, I was as nervous as I've ever been in my entire life.

Understandably so. That's, uh, that's quite a person to meet. A little bummed. Like I didn't get the moment with Clinton, but like he just was. not really as much in the orbit. He was kind of on the other side of that corner. And he wasn't as like spry, I would say, as George W. He was a little bit more frail than George W.

But still, the two of them were out there on their own. They were, like, you know, they weren't. They didn't have necessarily like a helper holding on to him or like walking them around or telling them where to go. The two of them were literally for the full hour just out there in this corner on the grass, on the tea, on their own, chatting it up, taking picture after picture. I mean, they were still buzzing, to be honest with you. And so then from my vantage point, they teed off last.

I actually heard President Bush say something to the effect to one of his people like, all right, we can get out of here now, right? There's something like that after like the last tea time. And I was like, yeah, that makes sense because it was just, it was relentless, as you can imagine. And they did great job. And then I kind of saw from the exact same view you guys kind of had me exactly was about to happen with Frankie and Trent. And I noticed very quickly,

I was like, Frankie is in the position of like he's making a move. Trent is on the phone because on the phone duty, camera duty, because Jake and Alex Bush had gotten denied at the door.

They were basically told to go to the pen. And then so now from your guy's vantage point, which leads to the Trent handshake and everything else, President Bush is in your guy's hands now. So, yeah, we watch everything that you just described go down. The last group tees off.

And then it's just a wave of people turning towards us because Frankie and I are, still in the tunnel that Riggs described before. We also got in. We finally got in. Oh, yeah, we got in. We went from the putting green. We talked to Joe Griner for a while.

And then Frankie and I were like, we're just going to make a commitment to make this walk. And the thing that saved us, shout out to all the stooleys out there. As we were walking, people are kind of hooting and hollering and being like, oh, Trent and Frankie, woo, yeah, you know,

go you guys. Right in front of security. I'm giving people fist bumps. So the guy just was like, yeah, have a good day. Like, he's not going to stop someone that everyone around is like,

cheering for. Right. Alex Bush and Jake Bass, who came two minutes after us, got stopped and they got turned away. So Frankie and I find that... Jake Bass also wasn't wearing a shirt. Did anyone notice that Jake Bass wasn't wearing a shirt?

He was wearing that tailor-made sweater and that was it, right? It was chaos. Yeah. He can be a liability out there. When he gets something... He was wearing a windbreaker and nothing underneath with the windbreaker zipped all the way down to, like, his nipple. I mean, it was so much just...

He was wearing something that he thought was cool, which it is a cool thing. but he wasn't wearing it in a way that is going to be acceptable on a golf course. It's certainly not acceptable trying to walk into an area where there's two presidents. That was just never ever going to happen. So the group's tee off. The wave turns towards us. And Frankie and I, while the groups are teeing off, Frankie and I have a conversation.

He's like, will you take a video of me meeting these presidents or meeting one of them or whoever? It was really supposed to be the handshake. I'm like, I want to shake George Bush's hand. Do you mind getting a video of it? So in my mind, I'm like, he's going to grab a question. quick video. We also had Dr. Brett McCabe who was going to video the whole thing. So hopefully like he could get me and then Trent's going to go get his handshake. Like it was going to be a whole thing. So Trent was nice enough to start this like videography session. And we didn't think like,

we just watched him converse for like an hour. So maybe like he's going to be in there. He's going to be in the tunnel. He's going to be hanging out. But obviously what happens next is very fast. I thought the plan was I'm going to get a video of Frankie meeting a president. And then that's going to be it. The only person who didn't know about that plan was George W. Bush. So what he thinks is I'm going to meet this guy and then he's going to want to take a picture of me. So Frankie takes off the hat, shakes the hand of George W. Bush. And at that moment, I think it's over. I think the interaction is about to end, not to mention that all the Secret service people are saying, we got to keep it moving. We got to keep it moving. So I'm thinking,

all right, their interaction is over. It is now my time to shake the hand of George W. Bush. And as you see on the video, I go for it. And George W. Bush still thinks that a picture is happening with Frankie Borelli and he and he goes why don't you snap that son of a gun snap that son of a gun snap that son of a gun and as that's happening you can see the video my hand once again enters the frame because I think that the interaction between Frankie and George W. Bush has ended but George W. Bush wants to take a picture with Frankie Borelli he will not move towards me until he gets a picture with Frankie so I then back up I get them in the frame and this is a part that I wanted to wait to talk on the podcast because it's hard to describe on Twitter.

People were really laughing at me stopping, holding the video static and being like, all right, I got the picture. But what actually happened was what you can do now with iPhones is while you're taking a video, they give you the option to snap a bunch of pictures. So I was doing that. I had my wits enough about me, although at this point, I am completely blacked out and my brain is melting out of my ears. But I am taking pictures of Frankie and George W. Bush during the video.

So I got all those things. once and then finally as i take the picture it's over george w bush walks by me i just finally on the third attempt get a handshake from him and he goes by me but it was it was chaos the whole thing was just absolute chaos from my vantage point that thankfully or not thankfully we all got because i kept the video going on my phone wait so you did you did get a handshake eventually oh yeah the very yeah stopped you can no no you can see it at the very very very end of the video dan i get a handshake from him yeah well i i I was completely oblivious to all of this happening.

I was like doing like, you know, golf stuff. I was like inside the ropes. This is what we do. And then I saw, well, this is what I was like. And then I saw my phone blowing up with all that. I was like, no matter what I do, no matter how good of a story I write, no matter what I report, nothing will come close to this one viral moment. I was like, you know what? Fair play.

These guys are pros. You know what they do. You bring up a point that I was talking with Trent about. And yes, it's one of the funniest things I've ever been a part of. You could actually see my face change. I go, mm. When Trent goes 0 for 2, I actually close my lips and go, oh no. Like, I knew.

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That is CCM.com slash barstool. Cross-country mortgage LLC, NMLS 3029, all loans subject to underwriting approval. www. nmLS consumer access.org. I was talking to Trent about this at the end because like he was so embarrassed walking off that walking out of that first T-T Trent was so embarrassed. He's like I don't know he goes I think you have to delete that video he goes I just went oh for two shaking the president's hand I'm like Trent this is the best thing that could have happened to us this week I don't care how many golf brands end up coming out of you know coming into existence I don't care whoever tries to do the same that we're that we're doing something is different about the barstool universe like things just happen we're not trying to be funny in that moment. We're just trying to get a picture with the President of the United States.

It is fucking just as simple as it can be. And it turns into a mega, viral, insane, embarrassing moment. Like, you can't, we're not the funny, we're not trying to be clowns in that moment. We're not trying to like think of a funny thing. That's

just something that happens to Barcel. Dave Portnoy, when he goes out there, he just tries to review pizza. He literally goes into a pizza place, says, I'm going to tell you guys if I like it or not. What happens to him in that moment is like homeless people come in, they're bleeding from their face, they're asking where the plastic machine is, 19 people pop out of cars. Like a lot of people in the world can just go review pizza, but no one can bring that like drama to it. And for some reason,

it's now moved into our world. This has happened to us how many times now since Foreplay has been a thing where it's just like, things just fucking happen somehow. And this is like the perfect example. I just tried to shake that guy's hand and this turned into this. And when I, you know, when I, you know, I saw the video I knew, like, it's all worth it. Like, if the rental car costs $3,000 and the flights, it's all worth it. We got a video of trying to shake the president's hand. And I was thinking earlier that morning when I was in the moment, I was like, oh, my God, I was thinking like shaking a president's hand is a thing.

It's like it's one of, I don't know, five things. Like they have the eight wonders of the world. This one of like five things that a human could accomplish. That is like as cool. of an experience as you can possibly have. You shake, and you don't say that with Tiger Woods. You don't say, the goal isn't to like, I shook Tiger Woods hand. You don't do like to take your hat off and shake.

A president of the United States, it's like, I shook a president's hand is such a thing. And then there's a video trend just couldn't do it. He was like, she's so, he thinks he has, doesn't have it, thinks he has. It's like, it was so fucking good. And the fact that he said snap that. Why don't you get Because dude the guys behind me The guys behind us

We're like all right you guys got a photographer He actually says do you have a photographer Is this your photographer guy? Oh that's right He basically points a Trent and just He assigns him as the photographer And then it's your cameraman This your cameraman?

Yep that's the guy I guess And then the guy's behind us is like We gotta go we gotta go And George W can't believe A Trent is still trying to shake his hand Where he's like Why don't you just snap that son of a gun Real quick like take the pictures

so we can move on here, boy. Come on, son. We're moving. I've had so many people tweet at me and comment under my post, snap that son of a gun. And it makes me laugh every single time. My brother will just text me out of nowhere. Why don't you snap that son of a gun?

That's going to be with me for the rest of my career, the rest of my life. It's right up there with where you station, snap that son of a gun. I don't know, man. When I meet famous people, my brain melts and I don't know what to do. I think the actually, like the way the video is shot

contributes to it. Because if you had someone taking a video and you like hold your hand out and bring it back awkwardly, like that's funny. But the fact that it's the first person video and you can see just a floating hand out there, make you could, you could not have, you could have gotten the best cinematographer in the world and they wouldn't have made it funnier than that. Things just happened, man. I was, uh, when we were, we went back to the floating hand.

Oh God. We went right back to the media center afterwards and I was just, well, I was mortified. But then as I kept watching it, I was like, this is actually pretty funny. and it really when you look at it from that first person view it looks like you're in a video game and you're pressing B to try and shake the president's hand and it just keeps happening and the president will not oblige he just won't give me the hand and it was yeah and like I said off the top before we got all the way to it like I'm less mortified about it now because of how well it did it got 930,000 views on Twitter a million and a half on TikTok like the reality of the situation is

that's a good amount of views and I'm happy about it. In the moment, I was completely mortified and I wanted to crawl under a rock and just die there. So good. Just an all-time moment, man. All-time moment is. It's up there with where are you station. It's something will break down forever. It's something that nothing will happen with President George W. Bush.

Next time he goes viral for a moment with Michelle Obama or anything, it's going to fire up all the like snap that son of a gun. comments again. And it's just too good. And it's, you know, it's just the, the barstool difference of four play difference.

You're right. We got Dan out there grinding over insightful articles that he's posting on barstlesports.com that are bettering the golf world and golf nuts are obsessed with it.

And there's just no other golf brand that's going to compete with the fact that we can post those while also just taking over TikTok and the barstool world with Trent and Frankie and George W. Bush. You just can't fucking beat it.

So can't beat it. Amazing, amazing moment. And it was, it was, could you guys feel the difference of the weight of those presidents being around versus any other humans we've ever been around? Oh my God. Yeah. Bro, I don't care what your politics are. And it's sad that the world has gotten to a point where it's like you have to almost walk on eggshells when talking about if you've had an interaction with one of these guys. There's 46 of them of all time.

I don't care which one you meet. I don't care which one you've had an interaction. reaction with. That is as high as you said before, as high of an honor as a human being can get to. I don't, you don't have to agree with them. You don't have to disagree with them. You don't just be a normal person and understand and acknowledge that that person was elected by more than half of the fucking country to run the, the, the free world, be the leader of the free world. Your countryman made this one human being. He's just a regular guy like us. And he just fucking ended up running the United States of America.

That guy is, I'm going to shake that person's hand and think it's the coolest thing of all time. So yeah, you see, you just see it. Everyone's looking at them. They've got this fucking swagger about them. They've got this aura. And it's just, it's different, man. It's, it's one and a billion type stuff. It really is.

They're just different people for a reason. That's why they're presidents. Yeah. It's true. Those guys were, those guys were voted by tens of millions of their peers. to become the most powerful human being on planet Earth. It's insane. Multiple times.

Which is just, that's unbelievable. So, yeah, it was very cool. Very, very cool. All right. President's Cup. I saw Kiz is going viral already. He's on a hot mic telling everybody about where the party is going to be. And I think he, in the handshake line, they did like an NHL playoff series handshake line.

And Kiz is caught on a hot mic at the beginning of it talking about the party and where to go and setting everything up. And then he shakes Siwu's hand. He just goes, Sea Wu and shakes him up and then goes, you're the ugliest motherfucker ever seen. What? And Siwu just starts fucking laughing, like hits him on the shoulder.

And they're just kids is getting right into it. He's literally going fucking all over the place on Twitter right now. So I imagine they're going to have a great time that I know Emelman's going to chirp us for not being at the after party. We got Barstall Classic tomorrow morning in Connecticut. Final one of the whole year. Got to be there. I got to do it right for obviously our fans.

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and a half to 12 and a half. Predictably they won. I would say that if you told people at the beginning, it was 17 and a half to 12 and a half and that you had the moment that Tom Kim and Camp Davis had yesterday on the 18th Green, which was Saturday afternoon. That would have been considered by all viewers on either side

an enormous success for this President's Cup. This is the same team that doubled up Europe last year, which is by all accounts, a significantly better team. And they got a lot better team. history and they're not down 11 to 1 all time and all that. And now they come in and have really a much better, closer battle than they even did at the Rider Cup last year on home soil without the international team having Cam Smith, Wachimann,

Mark Leishman, Louis Oostahusen, a million different people. So all in all, I would say from a competition standpoint, about the best you could have asked for. Yeah, I mean, they covered the spread. I think the spread was like six and a half points. It was nervy today. It was nervous today. There were two separate points. One of them was like around 2.10.

It was early, but there was a lot of yellow on the board. And four points was the lead going into today. And obviously that's the same margin that the Europeans overcame in 2012 to win the Rider Cup of Medina. So, you know, that late flurry yesterday by Tom Kim and Cam Davis, it made it possible. And then today they got off to a really, really good start. And you started to think, like, well, if this match goes this way and this match goes that way and they flip this match, it's possible. And then it happened again like two hours later, you know, when Cam Young, really after Siwu closed out JT and then Cameron Young and Hideki were tied going to 18 and you wondered if Hedke can pull this off. So they were in it.

They kept it a lot closer than anyone imagined. And I think, you know, all those guys gained so much from this week, like a guy like Cam Davis or a guy like Sebastian Munoz who pumped the world number one today, he beat Scottie Schephler, you know, or Tom Kim, obviously. Like to go against this American team that is such a juggernaut on home. soil and to have them really nervous on Sunday afternoon, no one thought it would get to that point. So an unbelievable job by Trevor Immelman kind of weathering the storm of a really, really chaotic captaincy, keeping everyone really positive and really optimistic. And they've built a culture like that felt like a team. And international teams in the past haven't always felt like a team. It's a challenge, right? You got guys from Asia, you're guys from Africa,

you're guys from Australia. To have them come behind a completely made up flag or logo of the national team. It's tough to do, but these guys really bought in. And it was, it was really compelling viewing. Like a lot of people wrote off the President's Cup, but I had a really good job, a really good time watching it all week. Yeah, I agree. I had a great time watching it. I'm seeing some people being like, what a surprisingly entertaining, you know, President's Cup. I find that a little ridiculous. I mean, it was going to be entertaining. I don't, you know, I don't think without the flurry from yesterday afternoon, I don't know that we would be saying that because it makes every match thereafter that much more intense.

It made every single's match. It made those first six matches today, which I'm sure we'll talk about how disappointing it was that we didn't have Tom Kim and Max Homa in those first four or six matches today. Because by the time that match on the back nine started to heat up, the whole thing was over. But it made every match intense. It made, you know, from the start,

it made it when it looked like there were some international flags on the board. It made you think like, Holy fuck, there could be a moment here. And it was very, you started to get vibes of Polter in 2012 on Saturday when him and Rory, mostly Polter, came back and put a point on the board at the end that made everything go from 11 to 5, I guess it would have been at the time, to 10 to 6. And then Europe comes back at Medina the next day and wins the Ryder Cup on foreign soil, matching the biggest comeback of all time from 99 when the U.S. did it.

So, like, that had the same kind of vibes. Like, holy fuck, they've got momentum now. Tom Kim, they had the locker room, like, moving afterwards. Everybody was going nuts. Seawu Kim and Tom Kim going crazy on the 18th Green. Like, that was such a cool scene, his fist bumps, that it made the entire thing worth it. And I think, too, like the President's Cup gets shit on so much solely because of its obvious comparison to the Rider Cup, that you go into it, like, expecting to be disappointed. It feels like we go in expecting to be disappointed every single time.

and then you hear these guys like Cam Davis, Billy Horschel, multiple people come out and say this, that was the most nervous I've ever been. It could, Cam Davis said five, six holes that took him to get to a point where he wasn't like shaking nervous. You could see Connors today when he had a big pot on 17. He literally couldn't even put the ball in the fucking green. He was downright uncomfortable. That was tough to watch. He was like fidgeting. Oh, and that's like how cool is that that this tournament event, whatever, exhibition is so,

big to the people in it that like they're fucking shaking and they're so nervous and these people play in masters and majors and they've played in Q school with their entire career on the line and all this shit. They've won tournaments and here they are and something they don't really get paid for. Um, that is, you know, by all accounts, the opposite of what they do on a week to week basis. You would think that a human being would care more about when they have a put for $1.5 million than they do when they have a put for $0.00. But just so that their teammates and their captain are happy that like that means a billion times more to him than that moment you had max homo with this put on friday afternoon where he said afterwards like no amount of money is worth how i fell after that

but he said it was a hundred times better that's just like that's the president's cup that's not even the rider cup it's fucking awesome yeah i mean i think the the phrase that keeps coming to mind is comparison is the thief of joy right like if you compare this to the rider cup that's going to take a lot of sting out of it but if you focus on what you do have and and not what you don't have you had 12 of the let's say 13 best American golfers in the world, right? DJ is probably the only live guy who most likely would have been on this team. And they care a lot. They buy into this. Like there were generations in the past that viewed these team competitions as as a burden or as a chore. They didn't want to do it. They didn't want to go and have to do this thing at the end of the

year and not get paid. But this core, and when I say this core, I mean like, you know, J.T. Speeth, Zander, Patrick Cantlay, Scotty Sheffler, Colin Morikawa, the guys who were on that Rider Cup team and are going to be on these teams going forward. They love this. They love getting to act like real athletes for one week. They love getting to shoot the shit in the locker room. They love reading each other's putts. They never get to do that on the PGA tour.

And it's one week a year. That is, it breaks up the monotony of 72 whole stroke play events so beautifully. And I think these guys really lean into it. And I think the international team, they don't get a rider cup, right? Like, is what you're saying, Riggs? Like, they don't get that chance. I'm sure they love to play in a rider cup, but too bad that they were born in Australia or they were born in South Africa.

So this for them, is the pinnacle and the only team competition they get to play in. And it was really, really cool. And I think it's just really cynical to write off the President's Cup and say, oh, because the Americans have won this or that. It was competitive. And the matches themselves were more competitive than the final score. The Americans were up eight to two after the first two days.

But eight of those matches, eight of the ten matches got to at least the 17th hole. It was just that the Americans dominated the close matches. They won five out of the first eight and only lost one of them, I think. they have the other two. So the matches themselves were competitive. The final score was more than respectable, a lot more respectable than last year's Ryder Cup. And I don't know, we were all on the ground. It felt like a big sporting event. It's so weird seeing all these people on Twitter say, oh, the President's Cup is useless. The President's Cup is pointless. We're walking around, and there's 50,000 people who definitely don't feel like it's pointless. They bought their tickets.

They're having the time of their lives. It felt big on the ground. It felt big watching it. I think it was a really successful President's Cup for the PGA Tour. Yeah, there was juice. There was a lot of juice. There was a lot of juice. For some reason, I don't know what it was. I don't know if there was, you know, people were overjuicing it because they wanted it to be good or that it was naturally juiced. But I had the juice.

I was fucking quenched. My thirst was quenched. I watched it. I enjoyed it. I wanted guys to make putts. And that's all you can ask for when you're watching a sporting event. It's like, can I please have something that matters on this? It's not like, you know, I think a lot of people thought this was going to be the dog days of summer baseball where it's like no one really.

cares like what's going to happen you know what the result's going to be one team's 30 games ahead in first place and you're just going to get through it and hopefully you see a home run like that was not what this was this was fucking sunday president's cup putts have to go in the hole that white ball has to go inside that hole or else your team is going to lose and that's what we got we really got it we and i love when guys react the way they react some guys were shitting on jt for like being a little bit corny and whatever it's one week a year it's one week a year. I mean, like, obviously there's some guys that are better at it than others. I think JT's probably pretty low on the list of, like, who actually does it the best. He does feel forced.

Like, the dab to the crowd was tough. But like a guy like Max Homo where he's already screaming, let's fucking go before the whole crowd screams because he knew it was in the back of the cup before anyone else did. That's fucking awesome. That's a guy that's like, that's coming from the balls. And it's just he's screaming out all of his team oriented like anger and like, and competitive He just wanted to tell everyone to go suck his dick. He's like, fuck you. I made that putt. Let's go.

Like our team's winning now. That's awesome. We never get that shit in the PGA tour. So that was so much fun to get that. And there were also moments with JT today versus Siou Kim where he's complained about putts not being given to him. Now, in a normal situation, I would probably be shitting on JT. I tweeted about it being like, you know, you probably don't want to upset Justin Thomas. But in an event like this, I love that shit.

Like I get that we've probably shit on JT in the past for similar antics like during not a tournament like this. But when it's this and the USA is on his back and he's representing America, I'm into JT like complaining that Si Wu Kim is not giving him two footers. I love that shit. I also think J.T. does it to rattle the guy. I don't think he does it like, right? Like he's clearly playing head games because yesterday I think Saturday there was a viral clip that went out of like speed looking at J.T for like a should we give this? and JT immediately being like, nope, and it was a two-footer. So I think he literally just does that to rattle other guys, which is smart.

Like there's no reason not to rattle people. And it's such a momentum. Match play is so momentum-based. And man, it was fucking fun to watch. You had so many awesome moments with Speath and JT. And to Frankie's point, it wasn't like these guys had to just walk out there and they were going to win their match. They had to have amazing moments to win their matches. They had to hold huge puts, hit.

huge recovery shots, like calm each other down because they have such a big put that if they don't make this, the match is tied and they could lose the match. And that was throughout every fucking group. And even the teams that dominated and had the amazing records like Spieth and JT, like Xander and Cantlay, like these teams were in moment after moment after moment that could have so easily gone the other way. And I think of like Sam Burns to me, I think Scotty didn't really have it all week, but Sam Burns to me was playing fucking great.

And the guy's record was winless. He was like whatever it was, 03 and 1 or something. He played every time I looked, he's making puts. Every time I looked, he was hitting a drive like 350 on the 18th hole. And he lost every fucking match. So it's like it's not like you just had to show up as the U.S. team and you could win. Like they still had those iconic moments that we're going to talk about that we have talked about. And they still only won by five points.

So it's like you had to show up and play world class golf. And like, you know, I was chatting with somebody today where. it was guys I don't know who I was talking maybe it was our buddy Eric last night but it was like you eng any given practice round like sung jm could go out there against kalamor kawa and beat them by five shots like any given practice round uh but they'd know like could go out any pGA tour round it happens all the time any time so it's like that's just because they're different in the world rankings and all that and i honestly think the difference in the whole thing came out to like the first couple days, the internationals just didn't look comfortable.

They just literally weren't comfortable. They didn't make puts. And then it ended up being whatever the score was after day two. It was like eight to two or whatever. It was like they ended up losing by less than that. So it was like they were so on kind of just trying to get the jitters out and they hadn't been there. And U.S. is coming off a Ryder Cup where they stopped them last year. Like that little difference at the beginning it led to a huge lead was kind of the difference in the whole thing.

Other than that, it was pretty fucking even. Yeah, it was pretty even. I think the internationals, what, they were down eight two. so they, after the first two days, they won more points than the Americans did, right? Because they're down by six and they only lost by five. So they really, they really fought back. I was pleasantly surprised with how the golf course played. The greens were really, really, really, really fast.

I mean, you could see it on TV, we could see it in person. They were glassy. And the rough was more significant than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be like a classic hazel teen setup where there's basically no rough and where the greens were kind of soft to where the Americans could just pound it anywhere and they could hold the greens. but it wasn't like that. And the greens were so tough that you really had to put a premium on hitting fairways.

And what I really liked was you had to really think about how strategic you were with your putts, right? Because like if you had like a 15 footer to win the hole, the greens were so fast that if you, you know, did the classic move or like, oh, I don't want to leave a short. I want to jamming in the hole. It could easily run five or six feet by. It happened to Billy Horshaw today. You know, there were a lot of guys that we saw who had like four footers that they blew like six or seven feet by. So that the golf course played really, really just, it was. It was more of a test than I thought it would be.

And I thought the crowds were great as well. So, uh, and, and a smart move by them switching the golf course around for 13, 14, 15 to be where they were. Usually those, you know, the green miles are incredible. Yeah, usually the, the green mile is 16, 17, 17 and 18. They moved it up to 13, 14, 15 to ensure that everyone would get there. And it's cool. When you're at the golf course, there's, there's a pond that all those holes kind of move around.

And so when all the matches get there at the same time, you can kind of see multiple different holes at once. Uh, it was a very, very cool stage. It was incredible. Really, really cool. Every time you saw that area of the golf course, it's just you were so glued. So many good shots were being hit on those holes. So yeah, Quail Hollow for sure just always delivers. It feels like that course is Trevor Illman said it reminds him a lot of Augusta.

And like once you said that, every time I saw a drone shot or just like a sweeping shot over one of those ponds, you're like, man, this place is special. It really is. Yeah. Has the same like really hard. hard cuts of the bunkers where the ball, there's no rough in front of them. They just roll right into the bunkers. In the last decade, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, over four million people have chosen Simply Safe home security to protect their home. I have a home that's protected by Simply Safe. Frankie has a home that's protected by Simply Safe. My fine parents have a home that's

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The U.S. team really just outpotted the internationals. It felt like they just made a lot more putts. And I think Paul Asinger said that the internationals had five or six guys who ranked outside the top 100 in strokes game putting last year on the PJ Tour. And it showed. Adam Scott, dude, every time they panned Adam Scott, he just barely missed a put. I mean, every fucking time. And he was striping it on Saturday afternoon.

He played lights out to get the win in that match. Lights out. a fucking swing it felt like. But he was kind of like that the whole week every time they showed him in his first match on Thursday. It was like he legitimately and it wasn't like he was duck like yanking putts that weren't even close. He's got his whole broom in the sweet fucking thing, which is never.

Don't get me started. Don't get me started. But man, he legitimately just misses every put and it's barely. And that has to be so infuriating. I know we've had the debate on the show about like, would you rather make every put and not strike it well or strike it well and miss every puck? because it's got to be infuriating. Watching Adam Scott this week,

that had to drive him absolutely bananas because he's putting it on a string and he just couldn't make a thing to save his life. We got to talk about your boy fucking Tom Kim rep. I mean, your guy, what did you tweet out that you want to be the VP of like his fan club or something like that? Tom Clem fan club. It's hard to make a better impression going two and three, right?

He lost most of his matches, but yeah, what a show. I mean, it really. started with a you know i spoke to him for the first time on tuesday i think they did their interviews and he's just he's just funny he's smart he's charismatic he speaks perfect english which i think is going to make him a much bigger star in the u.s because he can relate to fans in ways that like a he deki matsuyama can't um he grew up just idolizing tiger woods he had told this incredible story about how he was yeah he told this incredible story about how he was rooting against yi yang in the 2009 PJ Championship when he beat Tiger for two reasons.

Number one, because he loved Tiger Woods. But number two, because at seven years old, he already knew that he really wanted to be the first Asian man to win a major championship. And he knew that if Yiyang did it, then he wouldn't be able to do it. And 13 years later, he's playing in the President's Cup and just going absolutely crazy. And you could tell it kind of pissed off the Americans. We asked Zander Shoffley in the press conference, you know, what kind of effect does that have on you when a guy is just going crazy like that?

And he's like, yeah, he's 20. You don't have a lot of scar tissue when you're 20. And it wasn't rude, but there was a certain edge to it, right? Like, you could tell that him hooting and hollering with Siwu on that Saturday. Like, it got under Patrick Cantlay and Zander Shafley's skin a little bit. And he was the spark plug, and I cannot for the life of me understand why Trevor Imelman waited to send him out. He was 10th out of 12 singles matches.

It makes no sense. He said in this press conference on Saturday that, you know, they had their sister. and they want to stick to their system, well, I'm telling you that's bullshit. The mark of any good coach and any good leader, right, is adapting to the situation at hand. Your system has you in a four-point deficit going into Sunday singles. You have a guy who is on top of the golfing world and who is clearly getting under the American skin. You need early momentum to inject that belief into the entire team and you put the guy out 10th. Come on, Trevor.

Come on, Trevor about this. It was weird. It was weird for sure. I couldn't believe it either. You got to put them out there. You'll talk to you straight up. He'll tell you right to your face why he made that decision. Well, he said that they, you know, they have numbers crunchers.

I saw Mark Brody, who was an American wearing the international gear all week. You know, he was definitely doing stats work for them. And they, you know, they were playing the percentages. They definitely had a plan before the week and they stuck to their plan, which they felt like gave them the best chance. And like, I get that. I totally get that in theory. But when Tom Kim had the week that Tom Kim was having and you have that momentum that he basically single-handedly built on Saturday night,

And then you wait to put him out 10th. I mean, you put him out first or second or third. Like get the noise going. Get under the skin. Get some momentum. It just felt like by the time he was, his match mattered, the whole thing was basically decided. Yeah, it was a bummer. I mean, I know it's always, it's, it's hindsight.

Hindsight's 20, for sure. But it wasn't hindsight because I said in the moment and everyone said in the moment, this is a really dumb decision. Absolutely. But it's also like it's, they were up by four. They ended up winning by five. It was like it's not like it's not like it's not like that was going to change anything. It's so, you know, I don't mean it wasn't a bad decision though.

But I don't know if his thinking was in order for us to win this thing, it were going to have to have it come down to the last few matches. Like there's no way it was going to be over by the last few matches. So he's like, we're going to need our guy to be there. And if it doesn't come down to that, we fucking lost anyways. But I get that the theory is like the momentum and all of that. And I'm as piss as anybody. We didn't have a homo Tom Kim matchup that we actually.

that we actually thought mattered like the JT, CWK, like that match at the top of the day, got all the love, it was awesome, that moment on 18, whichever it was, what was the first, second match of the whole day, when like Coo made and JT missed, like, that felt huge. And if you had had that with Tom Kim and Max Homa, like, that would have been awesome instead of having it be like slapped at the end. But my point is like, without hearing from Trevor or having not heard from him yet, I imagine there had to be a pretty damn good reason for it. all he said was that they had a system, they had a plan, and they were sticking to their plan.

But like, look at what the Americans did, right? They had JT and Spieth in their first two matches, and I think Cantley might have been third. Like, you put your horses out first. And it's what the Europeans did in 2012. If you look at the 2012 thing, Tiger was like playing, I think he was last. It was like, what are you doing? And the Europeans front loaded. They put all their eggs in the basket. It doesn't matter how the guys in the end play if you never get to the end. I understand it wasn't the difference. It wound up not really mattering. But I just is a, a, proper, proper head scratcher decision. Yeah, I thought it was too.

I'd be curious to see what he says now. Like, I don't think he was going to reveal too much yesterday when he's asked about it. Right, fair enough. He's like, we're in the middle of fucking competition. I did what I did. I'd be curious to hear what he says about it now. That was a bummer. And by all accounts, it would make more sense to put him out first or second or third.

And the momentum matters. And people, you know, your whole team from, if you're from a national standpoint, seeing the flags on the board and go in the other direction, fires you up and the whole deal and they didn't get any of that and clearly they had their moment in the middle and it looked like they might be making a run but it didn't it just didn't happen for him and it's a bummer that tom kim match was essentially forgotten about max homa we do have to talk about max homa was as excited about this event as any human being especially on the american side as you could possibly be he talked about how last year during the rider cup he was part of the group that got fit for uh the apparel but knew he wasn't really going to get picked on the team and how that, you know, obviously lit a fire under him a little bit. He talked about going into this year how much this meant to him. Maxholm is also just a huge PGA tour guy. He's a huge, just golf guy.

He thinks it's so cool that he's on the PGA tour. I've talked to him about this many times, about major championship weeks. He just watches live from coverage the whole week. He loves this shit. And now the fact that he's actually on the President's Cup team for the first time. And then the fact that he got put in those situations multiple times where he got to hit huge putts late or to finish off matches with everyone around. And he became the guy the week after he won his fifth fucking PJ tour event in his first team competition, the fact that he went 4 and 0 and went undefeated. The fact that he's a fan of the program, a fan of part of my take, or friend of the program, friend of part of my take, a friend of really everybody.

I don't know how he makes the time of the day for to be on every show. He's a media slut, as we've called him. I feel like he's boys with every single guy with a podcast. But like, good for Max fucking Homa. He's the man. He's such a good dude. And the fact that he went out there and goes from the social media, darling and the media slut that he is to like this Zen like savage inside the ropes is

is super fucking impressive. Yeah. So I called his coach, Mark Blackburn, uh, yesterday. Because I just wanted to get like an inside view of, of this meteoric rise. And, and we had a really interesting conversation. He basically said he started working with Max. It wasn't as long ago as I thought it was. It was after the 2020 U.S. Open and he said that Max couldn't really drive the ball consistently

and he couldn't hit a proper flight at wedge. And we talked about, you know, how their work has gone so far beyond just the normal technical stuff. Because Max has a bit of what's called imposter syndrome, which is kind of this feeling that, you know, I've had this kind of thing before where it's like you don't feel like you deserve where you are in life. And you're kind of looking around like, how am I here, right? Like, how am I playing in the President's Cup? How am I winning on the PGA tour? And the only way to cure that is with cold, hard facts.

And the facts are that Max Holmes has now won five PGA tour events. He's now played and starred in a competition featuring 24 of the best players in the world. He went 4-0 and O. He's done it. And when he gets in contention, he wins. When he has a chance to close out the match, he closes. He makes those puts. He came back to beat Tom Kim today after taking a few guys.

punch it's early, I think he was three down. And when he had that birdie put to win on 18, on I think it was Friday, you knew he was going to make it. Or maybe it was Thursday. I can't remember, but you knew he was going to make it. He's just, he's got an air about him and a quiet confidence now that it almost feels like his struggles makes him stronger now because he has the perspective of like, I've been there and I'm not there anymore and I know I can do this because I've proven to myself that I can pick myself off the ground from the lowest steps possible in professional golf to where he is today. And the coolest part about this, and I wrote about this in my article on barcelesports.com, there's still, there's still so much more to go, right? Like, it feels like we've been watching

this Netflix documentary in real time, right, of this, because he's let us in. He lets you in on the journey. Everyone feels this sort of parisocial connection with Max. You feel like you're friends with him because he let he just lets you in. And it's not, he's, he's almost there, but he's not there yet, right? He's never finished the top 10 of a major. And that's a huge goal and a huge, you know, a gaping hole in his resume that he's fully aware of. And I think that's what's so exciting is like, like, we all feel like we've been on the dream of him. I mean, I can't.

I cannot let you saying we're gaping hole in the middle of like the most incredible, you know, breakdown of Max Holmonde. Soliloquy. Sorry. Yeah, okay. It's a gap in his, a gap in his resume. Um, and he knows that. And I think it's just really exciting that, that he still has far to go.

And Mark Blackburn said, like, I genuinely believe that Max can be the number one player in the world. And we're on our way there. We've got 15 more spots to go is what he said to me. It is cool, man. I mean, for the longest time, he was the social media guy, the guy, you know, going after everybody's swing, roasting people swings. It's like, oh, Max Homer, he's the guy. Yeah, yeah, I sent him a video on my swing and he made fun of me. Now everything you guys are saying is, is right. He's won five times on the PJ tour. He's just always there. And when he's there, he wins when he can close. He closes. It's cool, man. And now you're making me like second guess my relationship with him because he's he's that way with everyone and he even people who he's never met like

you're saying everyone he's talks to on social media everyone who has watched a video of his whatever feels like they're his friend and it is that way so it's cool to see a guy like that succeed and i'm with you dan i think we are just scratching the surface i think he's got a lot more to do a lot go watch the four-man's grumble against uh max home a four play it's on our youtube page if you haven't seen it already you're insane i mean you see everything that we're talking about in that one video He's the nicest guy of all time. He really cares about the sport that he plays. And then also when he wants to turn it on, he's like the best player that's ever played the game.

It's insane. Like the guy can turn it on like you've never seen. I mean, the shots he was hitting in the closing holes of our own scramble, which is an exhibition like shitstorm that we'd bring like a million camera guys, drones flying into trees, transparent showing up, all this shit. And he just turns it on. He like, he like went like four under on the back nine, five under the back nine to win a match because he was never losing ever losing on that fucking because he's so competitive place he'd never seen before never been there never seen before and you just tore it up it's incredible how good of a golfer he is and i agree

i think we all agree that this guy's going to be here for a long time and he's going to be a problem on this tour i mean it's very very evident at this point max is the man i uh i'm sorry i'm seeing videos of kisner just pounding drinks i do like when like these golfers was leaving i thought kis wasn't staying for the celebration got 10 o'clock flight i think he said okay he's gonna be This is, because I was talking with him about the after party and trying to get some tidbits like weeks ago. And Kiz is leaving tonight to go to Colorado. He's had an elk hunting trip booked for like years, he said. Barely saw him on the broadcast today.

Dan, I know you tweeted about it, but boy, they really, he was the last match and didn't end up mattering anyway. But he was just not really on the broadcast at all. Yeah, it didn't really feel like he was playing in the president's cup. If you didn't know he was there, you might have completely forgotten. Finding the perfect stone for any type of jewelry is difficult, confusing, and often insanely expensive. Two fellows on this show have been, I would say, have gone through the experience of stones and jewelry, more so probably than two others on this show. Yep. Purchasing stones is an important thing in life for many different occasions.

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Where is this? For moral support? So where do you sit now? Like, obviously, if Kiz had shown up and went 3 and O and was like a dominant match play guy, obviously the conversation for Ryder Cup and all this stuff stays, you know, in everyone's mind. But now I think it's been put to rest, would you say? Yeah.

I mean, Scotty Sheffel went 03-1. Should we not have him on the Ryder Cup team? Number one player in the world. Yeah, no, I guess. Yeah. So that's just a lot of facts. Look, well, my point was like the factor of having Kiz is, was always that he is the match play guy. I'm just trying to play both sides here saying like.

It wasn't a very good golf course for him. I'll start there. I would say the, the frustrating thing about Kiz, and I think he would probably agree with this too, is that the year that he absolutely definitely should have been picked and on that team was at, was in Paris. That was the perfect horse for him. So perfect for him. And they ended up going over there with a stack team.

And they had fucking Phil Mickelson, couldn't even hit the golf ball in play. Patrick Reed and his wife called the New York Times and bitched about his teeth. And like it ended up being the biggest shit show of all time. And that was the perfect time for Kisner to actually be on the team. It was when he was like probably playing his best. It was the course that was the greatest for him. And unfortunately, I think that those opportunities in a. huge part of the reason that I did try to make the push last year was like I don't think kids

is going to get many more chances I really don't I think that if the international team this year were as stacked as they could have been with cam smith and all that I honestly think they might not have picked kids like I think davis loved the third said himself like oh yeah kids is on the team because he's like the funniest guy or he said something along those lines so I like legitimately don't I think kids was not playing that well going in he'd even come close to make an east lake I'm bummed out because I really think that like his chance to go in and get that chance in the Rider Cup was in Paris and he didn't get it. And I don't know that he'll ever get it again. We had a really funny interaction with him on the driving range.

Was that Thursday or Wednesday? No, that was, uh, yeah, I think it was Thursday, Friday maybe Thursday, Friday. Um, but Will's Alatoris was on property. He was hanging with the team. Obviously he's got the hurt back and we're standing on the drive range and we say hi. What's up to Will? who's just the nicest guy of all time. I mean, he's just a top guy on tour.

He's a big Barstle fan. He says he was watching every episode of our mini golf tournament talking about Billy football, hitting balls into the water, and Dave smashing his putter. I mean, that's what this guy was doing while at the president scout. And Kiz gets in the cart with him and goes, I wouldn't be here without this guy's back.

So, I mean, I love Willie Z. And he, like, kind of smacked him on the neck. So, I mean, the guy's very, very, very, you know, aware of why he was there. Yeah, and then yesterday, Yesterday he came up to me, he was hitting balls. He was about to play, and he turns around and he goes, hey, rap, where your cronies at?

And I go, well, a couple of them left. He goes, yeah, soon you'll discover you're the only one in this crew that works. Oh, kids. I couldn't say president. He meant it in a nice way, but it was, it was very nice. He was very warm to me. I really appreciated it. He's great.

He's just a judge and a double. Come on, man. This guy's going to get it over the fence. I think Kisner's going to have to make a team on points or I, you know, I doubt that he's going to make a team going forward. I think that's probably the truth of the matter. I know Davis-Love, the third is a Carolina guy. Kiz is obviously a South Carolina guy,

so that probably helped him the most. And, yeah, I don't think that Kiz is going to be a captain's pick, unfortunately, going forward. I think he probably knows that. I think this was a chance for him if he had gone out there and lit it up, but Kiz just wasn't playing well coming in either. I mean, he's fighting his driver. It's a bad fucking drives this week, and he didn't have his best week.

So, you know who makes me downright Googly? Jordan Spieth. When he's playing well, dude, I, and then he's just, I see him and he's playing well, and he's given great post around interviews. And it's like the guy that, you know, it's like your first love and he's back in your life. I see him playing well and I just get, I get giddy. I tweeted out the giff of the, um, the dad from stepbrothers when he meets, um, I came to think of his name, I was moving so long.

But he's just like, he's just so, yeah, Derek. When I, I am that dad when I see George. He heard you laugh like that. Yeah, right. Right. He's like, oh, God, you're so impressive. That's how I feel. When I think about Jordan Speeith and him back in our lives, I know he's been back for a little

while. Now he was gone for a little bit. Now he's back. Now him and J.T. They're their best buddies again. They probably always were. But now it's more in the spotlight again. I just watch him out there and I'm like, God, you're so impressive.

I love you so much. Just think about how much fun that is for Jordan Spee and Thomas. Like, they're legitimately best friends. Like best, best, best friends. Imagine playing in the President's Cup and the Ryder Cup, right? Because this is now three competitions in a row or four competitions in a row. They've been partners and they're going to continue to be partners, right? Like they won all four of their matches.

You're not about to not put them out first out and foursums or four ball in the Ryder Cup next year. Like they are just a partner. And Jordan Speed had to break up with Patrick Reed. He had to. And it was going to be ugly. And he knew it was going to be ugly. But it was worth it for him because he knew, okay, I want to play for the next 15 years in these team competitions with my best friend. And so we cut Patrick loose.

He took JT as a partner. They actually played well in Paris. They were one of the few bright spots. And they've been money ever since. And watching Jordan Spief putt and watching Corey Conner's putt, it's, it's unbelievable that they are like playing the same sport and they're only separated by 13 spots in the world rankings. Like I understand that Cory Connors is a ball striker first and foremost. And I understand, dude, that was rough out there.

That was rough to watch. I mean, he was bad all week and he was hitting it all over the place. He made a couple of double loggies on the front nine. But we talked about this briefly earlier in the podcast. Watching him try to get that ball on the hole on the 17th hole, it was like he never played golf before. It was bad. It was bad. And he tried to walk in the four footer and it like limped by on the low lip.

Like it was just you could, it was one of those like you could tell he literally didn't want to put it. It was almost like he was trying to kill time. Yes. Right. Like you know like Trent, those moments when we always make UT off first and the scrambles and stuff. and you're like, I just don't want to hit this. It was literally like if you just refuse to walk on to the tee and hit the ball and we were like, oh, the sun went down, like the video is just over.

We're not going to do this. That was like what he was trying to do. He legit just refused this and run the clock out. I was like, you have to hit the pot. Like go hit the put. And then he missed it. He obviously fucking missed it. I was trying to bet live.

I was like going through New Jersey. I was trying to bet live that he was going to miss the pot. Like obviously it wasn't an option. I was like there's no way he's going to make this four foot put. It was tough for Team Canada because Taylor Pendrith also went over. So Canada got zero points. They get the President's Cup, the next President's Cup, but it was a rough one. But yeah, there were some guys who were super impressive, like Cam Davis.

This is another guy. It shows you that anything can happen in Matchblood. This guy's number 66 in the world, and he was a horse this week. And, you know, I was thinking we Tom Kim and Cameron Young is shot to start him. And this is what, you know, the PJ Tour has talked about, which is like the ecosystem is bigger than any stars. None of us knew who Tom Kim was 18 months ago or who Cameron was, Cameron Young was 18 months ago. And now they're starting in these big events. There's so many players, so many just ballers, just knocking on the door, waiting for that opportunity that these guys going to live.

You know, it's not like it's going to make the product that much worse on television. It's just that there's going to be a new protagonist. That's how deep professional golf is right now. Cam Young hates me. Why? Maybe my face. I don't know. I called him E.O.

Once because I said he doesn't have much emotions. He kind of just like floats around the course. Oh, that was made another pore. That was what you said. Yeah, I just made another poor. Which is what he does. We, Frankie and I, one of the days, I guess the only day that we made it to. Another poor.

That is him. That's pretty good. Frank and I were standing at the front of the tunnel. I think this was the day. This had to be the day where Riggs was already over there hobnobbing with George W. Bush. And Frank and I were still at the front of the tunnel. And Cam Young came up for his. tea time and walked by us,

look Frankie right in the face and just gave him nothing. I watched it happen. He didn't even see me for whatever reason, but he looked at Frankie and like there, it was one of those moments where somebody has to say something and nobody said anything. I did. I mousy said like, all right, boys, it was like him and Scotty, right? No. Play with Colin in the beginning and then with kids, I think.

He was the kids. Oh, it was a kid. Sorry. Yeah, it was kids. So I was like, all right, let's go boys. And he slowed down, stared at me and looked at me like, you're a loser. Like, it was one of those just like. Oh, wow. So it wasn't like he just didn't know who you were. It was like, oh, dude, he looked right at me after I said, let's go boys and just didn't even smirk. Like, not even a thanks.

He was just like. To be fair, we don't know if he knows anything about us. We were reading into the facial expression. I think he hates me. I mean, I think he hates me. We've been wrong about that stuff before. It was Spath and with Roy McRoy. Yeah, true.

We have been wrong. This one felt pretty deep, but I'll, I mean, I'll let him come on the show and say that he doesn't. But, you know, and there's no hard feelings. Like, you don't have to like me. Just because we have a golf package. He doesn't mean he has to like me. Made another par. No, just fucking made another bird.

That's one of the funniest things I've heard. So, yeah, that was. And then Morikawa, we had a, we, I really, really like Colin Morikawa. I mean, I get googly-eyed for him. He wasn't playing that day that we were in that, in the tunnel. and he had just talked to George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, and he kind of came in. He's like, you guys teeing up next?

Because we were in there. And Morikawa was like, you guys are going to tee up next? Like, we could use some more guys. I'm going to go out and hit a couple of balls after this thing. So if you guys want to just join me. Like, he was being really, like, joking about it. And I was like, dude, you just shook the hands of two presidents and you yapped up. Like, what was that about?

He's like, this is insane. He's like, this is insane what's going on in here. He played awesome. He was awesome today. I think he had six birdies on an eagle. It was amazing today. And I started to try to try to him like, That's just a regular dude that's just better than golf than us.

Like that guy's out there kind of just like freaking out that you just met a couple of presidents. And yeah, he's just every time we have an interaction with him, he's just very, very, very, very, very down to earth. Yeah, it's like Rory. It's like these, they're normal, nice guys who just happen to have this golfing superpower. Yeah. Right. Well, there are some other guys who have an aura, right? Like Dustin Johnson is not, you would not describe Dustin Johnson as like a normal guy with a superman.

Like, that's a golfing cyborg, right? Same with Tiger. or same with Brooks or even Phil's like kind of a freak, right? Like you wouldn't say, but Colin and Rory are just normal-ass dudes who happen to swing the golf club beautifully. There is. Morikawa does have a little bit something where like sometimes we'll say things to him.

He's so competitive and I know Rory is obviously super competitive. Morikawa wears it on his sleeve a little bit more. He'll like, if you say something that he doesn't agree with, he'll be like, no, I don't like, what's the expectations thing we always put on him? And he's like, I don't have expectations. I have goals. and it's like, all right. He'll bite back a little bit more than Rory will.

For sure, but he's still awesome. I have to give a shout out to that Marshall on 18, who just completely fucked Tedaki Matsiyama's golf ball. I mean, he hits one up the left side, and it's coming in hot. And it probably would have stayed in the rough, but it was on such a line. There's a chance it could have hit the rough,

balanced and gone down the fairway, and he could have had a big put for Bertie on the 72nd hole to win, or the 18th hole to win his match, and it hits this fucking Marshall in the kneecap, who the guy might as well have been standing in the fairway i mean the guy was what was he doing there but he was within like five yards of the edge of the fairway on a dog leg left so he's like everyone's trying to cut that corner it's not like he's on the right side near the bunker like he's right where they're trying to hit it and it hits his fucking kneecap i had to take off his leg and headacki's

ball kicks 20 yards left and he loses you know 30 or 40 yards at least of distance on the whole thing he still then hit an amazing shot to get it on the back he had a really tough shot Hit the pin, almost went in the hole and ended up having the match, thankfully, and not losing the match. But that Marshall, he's got to be Team USA or something because he was just standing in the worst spot I've ever seen in ball hits. What other sport? I mean, what other sport does where a random 55-year-old accountant from Charlotte decides to stand have like an impact on the game? I mean, I guess it's like in baseball when the guy reaches over to try and catch a foul ball. but like haven't they kind of gotten rid of that now?

Like this was flagrant. Fias Rico Bosco, that's why the Yankees dynasty like went off and running because Derek Jeter and right field and the whole thing. But even if you, in baseball, like if you catch a home run, isn't there a rule against that?

Like if you're leaning over, they give you now. In the 90s and the 2000s, there was no reviews. So it was just like by the umpire's discretion if that's a home run, if it was going to go over. Now they were able to like say that they thought

that the apex of the ball was going to be able to go over, whatever. They have the whole thing. I thought it was interesting. They said that I think Imelman or maybe Ogilvy found out and didn't tell Hideke, do you think you would want to know that your ball hit the marshal and that you actually hit a better shot? Not going to help you until after, I don't think.

Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to know that like, oh, maybe that wasn't such a bad shot. Like I didn't hit it here. Right. That's the only part of it where it's like, well, then how did my ball end up here? Like, do I don't have it anymore? I'm Hideki Matsiyama. I'm washed now.

My drive went 220 yards. I don't understand. I don't understand. Like, I actually think that that would eat at my brain. Like, if I hit the ball, about as well as I usually hit it, and I'm Hedeky Matsuyama, I have a green jacket. I'm really good at golf. And then I go out there and my drive went 225 yards. It's like, why is that the case?

Oh, it hit a guy in the knee. That makes a ton of more sense instead of now I got to think about how I thought I hit it well and I didn't. I don't know if I can be able to sleep. You're not supposed to sleep, right, when you have a concussion. Oh, boy. That's, I think that's actually. I don't think that's true anymore. I don't think the concussion.

and sleeping. Bob Saggett passed away like this. Let's let's be clear. I am not a doctor, so I don't know what you think about any of this. Bob Sagitt hit his head and then went to bed and he died. Yeah. I have a sad one. Really sad one.

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I also have on here just that Paul Asinger is just, I think he's kind of tough to listen to. I know Dan, you put it in the group text during the coverage. We're not usually podcasts. It's just like bitches about coverage. that's not necessarily our forte or our specialty. But I do think he's starting to get a little bit of, he started to get a little bit of foul do on him where it kind of comes off like an idiot sometimes. And I will say too, Zinger has been nice to us.

I mean, was it in Australia when he met him? He was like, oh, Barcelona. He was showing us his app and he was into it. I just think he says some fucking idiotic things on the coverage. I just don't know if he does his homework. And that's the part that as a Big J. journalist sometimes can be a little bit tough to wrap your head around. You must fucking hate me.

Well, no, you don't, you're not on NBC for six hours, you know, being narrating the, the tournament. You know, he was talking about Siwu Kim and saying, you know, he never shows this much emotion. It's like the guy snapped his fucking putter at the Masters and had to putt with a three wood for like six holes when he was on the cut line. True. Like obviously this guy burns hot.

So, yeah, I mean, it's just, it's the kind of thing where it's, it's the kind of thing where it's like, it's so easy to complain and you're never going to, like, praise the guy. Like, Dan Hicks, I think is great. But we don't, you know, you're not going to tweet Dan Hicks is a great commentator because no one's going to like your tweet. And that's just kind of the nature of the beast. But yeah, it felt like the coverage, you know, they clearly try to like build up these narratives, which, which I get, right?

Like, maybe the average Joe, like, needs those sort of narratives. But what ends up happening is they don't show that many golf shots. A lot of it is like showing guys and showing old highlights and showing Davis love driving around in his cart from a weird. so much of that. From a weird angle and showing guys lining up their puts. And it's like you kind of just want to see more golf shots. I also thought there wasn't nearly enough top tracer this week.

I feel like there were a lot of T shots where you didn't know where it was going. Kind of felt like I was watching golf in 2006. Just not great. Wasn't great all around. Yeah. I agree with that. I also think it's very frustrating in these events, especially when there's only during the alternate shot especially, there's only five golf balls, you know, or I guess 10 golf balls in the entire play.

There's only 10 balls, live balls in play. So it's inexcusable for us to miss any shot. They should never say, like, while we were away or a little bit earlier like this. Like there's only 10 balls in play. You should be able to show literally everything. And then on Saturday morning, there's only four balls in play. They only do four matches of the alternate shot. And so you're like, there's just only,

there's just not that many golf balls out there that you cannot afford to miss any single shots. It's just inexcusable. So that part was driving me crazy when they were doing that. Singles I get a little bit, it's like there's only four or five matches that really matter. And if you look on the board in the last, you know,

there's somebody's four up in the last match and it's not going to matter anyways. Like basically the Kisner thing going on, it's like, fine. I understand if I don't see every one of those shots, but like, you should pretty much see everything. And there were moments where they would just cut to like even the Tom Kim Max Homa match, which was still kind of when they were in the mid part of their round was still pretty important, where they would just be like, oh yeah, Max really struggled there.

So now we find him two down and he's putting for par on nine. You're like, what the what? Like how did I see any of that? So that type of shit was driving me crazy. That drives me crazy. And can we please retire the phrase this from a moment? minute ago or you heard that roar earlier. Just lie to me. Just fucking lie to me. Tell me that it's live. Or don't even say that it's live. Just show me the fucking golf shot. But like the cool,

the two coolest shots today, Spieth hold a really long putt and Sebastian Munoz hold out for Eagle from the bunker and they fucking ruined both of them. It was like, oh, you heard that roar from a minute ago and here's where it came from. I just, I just don't understand what's the utility. Like, what's the value add of telling us that it's not live? I just don't get it. Right. You're ruined, obviously we know something happens now.

Yeah. That's horrific. I agree. Right. I agree. Lie. Just lie. Who can't,

like who's going to argue? It's like they're being honest thinking they have to be honest. But why do they have to be honest? No one's going to be like, oh, you show me this live. It actually happened 37 seconds ago. It's almost on their producers.

Like, that's the producer's fault for like being like, hey, we're going to go to this put that was just made. Like, they should almost lie to the guys in the boot. Right. Because that's the part of it is like they

How else would they know that it just happened? Someone just told them that. Right. What they think is that their reaction isn't going to be genuine. But the only reason it's not going to be genuine is because what you're saying because the producer told them that something happened. Like just show the announcers like it's live all the time. Right.

And just say like, um, Speath for Birdie on nine. And then if he makes it then afterwards be like, that was a moment ago. So I don't have to fucking say beforehand. Because the best commentator stuff happens when they're reacting like we are reacting in our, in our couch. basically being like, oh, what a put.

Like, if you lose that by saying, your producers in your ear being like, hey, we're going to cut to 17 speech just made a bomb. Like, you're ruining for the commentator and us now. So, yeah, I think, I think all this hate needs to go to the producers inside the truck. Okay. Sure. I'll, I'm going to project it on to this show.

And then wherever it should get dispersed after that, if it's a producer, just whoever is out of there listening and knows you're responsible, except my hate. You know who you are. Yeah, I'm upset about it. Uh, other thing in my notes, Webb Simpson got, uh, got us a dinner reservation on Friday night and it was delicious at stake 48. Legitimately from the driving range while he was on comms with Zach Johnson, um, and with Freddie couples and with Davis Love the third. He just called his guy at stake 48 and got us to dinner reservation for Friday night.

It was really this. The night before we couldn't get in. So, I mean, he's just the nicest guy ever. He's so nice. I can't imagine how how what did that call? He's like, hey, I was just wondering if, you know, if it's not too much trouble. I can't imagine him being like the sly guy who's like calling his guy being like, yo, I need a table. I want to watch football with Web Simpson.

Like I want to sit down a full Sunday and just be like, you want to watch like the NFL and like talk about our fantasy teams? Like he's like, I want to be friends of them. I couldn't agree more. He's such a good dude. And yeah, I walked right in. He texts me. He's like, he texts me like Friday evening too after I'm sure they're in the team room like discussing which, you know, groups they're going to go with or how their strategy is looking for Saturday afternoon. And he's just like, yeah, it's under my name.

so make sure you drop my name, ask for Oliver. I'm like, okay, walk right in. Like, hey, I'm here. I got a table for Webb Simpson. You know, Oliver booked it and they're like, no problems there. So, yeah, shout out to him. I love that man. He's like the nicest guy in the world.

We will get him on this show. Yeah. And then I'm sure he'll just be one of our guys, you know, probably forever. And then I have to give Danielle Kang a shout out. Daniel Kang, who's back playing again. she announced during the S Open that she was diagnosed with a tumor on her spine, didn't compete for several months, is back. She gave an incredible interview yesterday when she got herself into contention

where she just started crying, talking about how much it meant to her, the fact that she was able to get back into contention. Shot seven under today, including a hole-out eagle on the final hole to get herself into a playoff, ended up losing in the playoff, but I don't think she even cares about that, the fact that she's back. Shout to our girl, Danielle Kang, the people are going to offer. Both of us cried this weekend, so that's good. How are you feeling now, Frank?

Are you in pain? Similar reasons for sure. Are you in pain as we speak? Yeah, I am. My right eye hurts. Everything on the side is starting to go numb. I'm nervous. Now it's in my head, but it's not about me.

That's an amazing story with Danielle. Again, you can see exactly the type of person that she is in the four-man scramble. She is an incredible, incredible person. She is. Very, very funny. Shoots the shit better than anyone can take it and give it. It's nuts. She's just, she's got a mouth on her where she's like, oh, fuck you.

Like, she's the best. she's so cool and I couldn't be happy for her so it's good to see that she's back and and playing good golf again she's phenomenal she uh I mean in one point in our scramble she was just sitting down uh Indian style on the green next to our putts just chirping us as each one of us putted

so if you haven't watched that scramble video watch that one too um Frankie I'm I'm curious if your do you feel like your photo with George W. Bush president George W. Bush is now like not as, I don't know. Is it different now that the photo was pretty much dominated by Trent's mishap with the handshake? I don't think. I mean, I like the fact that it caused a viral moment.

Like, I just think the whole thing. I think what saved me was the hat removal. And I think a lot of people were able to piece together like that was my involvement in that moment was like, all right, at least I respected the president. I'm like, you did. But like, for me, that was a huge, huge moment to be able to be like, all right, I did the thing. And then I was a part of, I mean, the picture of George W. Bush and me looking at Trent like he's an idiot is one of the funnier things I've ever seen in my entire life. We're both like, dude, take the photo. It's like at that point, he was no longer like the president.

He was just a dude that just wanted to keep moving. And Trent was stopping him from doing that because we were all a part of this thing that we couldn't get done. I also don't remember the last time I heard someone say son of a gun in the wild. Snap that son of a gun. Snap that son of a gun. Snap that son of a gun. I want to talk about. Real quick, I fucking, I got into another altercation with the same group of people that I did this weekend that I did a couple of years ago when I first came on this podcast with the good, good situation, the putting.

My buddy Andrew and Kyle where I ended up screaming in the Borrelli's parking lot for three hours. Oh, no. The girlfriends had to come and pick us up. Not good good good the group like good putting situation. No, no, good though. The actual good good good like when you get a put. I was like, oh man, do we have beef? I don't know about it.

No, no, no, no. Look, when you actually, like, there was a good, good situation on a green where, like, I said good, good. And the other, my partner didn't, whatever. I'm not going to rehash that. The same group of guys, we got into another one. And I think I might just be the person that's, like, causing all these issues at this point. But what? Essentially, we're playing Wolf.

It's three of us. We're playing Wolf. And ever since we played Wolf in, in Myrtle Beach, I've been obsessed with it. I think it's very fun. It's a very fun three-person game. So at this point, it's very tight. Like there's only like a change between like maybe there's a point differential between all three of us. It was very, very tight.

Real good match. I'm giving both these guys five strokes each. So I'm kind of pissed off about that because we've always played straight up our whole lives. And all of a sudden I'm playing a lot more golf. They chirped me for playing golf for a living and that, whatever. And I have to give them strokes. The handicap system is what it is. I'm giving them both five.

So I already have a chip in my shoulder. We're like really in a tight match. And it gets down to like the seventh hole on Valley, which was, I guess, like our whatever, 14th or whatever hole that is, right? And I did that math wrong, maybe the 16th hole. Anyway, so I am on the green and three. And it's, I'm sorry, I'm on the green of four. And I hit a great drive, but everyone, I end up chipping sideways, get on the green. Andrew and I are both sitting four, putting for five. I've got 15 feet. Andrew's got 60 feet. Okay, we're both putting for five. Andrew puts his way short. So he goes from 60 feet to maybe 20.

12. Now I go on putt. Now he's sitting five. I'm sitting four. I putt and I blow it by. And I'm frustrated. I've been missing putts all day long and I should be putting these guys away. I'm hitting greens like crazy. I just couldn't putt. So I blow him by. So now I'm sitting five and I go to knock in my bogey putt and I blow it by again. So now my ball trickles to behind Andrews where his was. And I have like 11 or 10 feet, right? And now they're not saying a word. So I'm thinking to myself, well, now Andrew's putting for six, and he's going to now make me putt this to now have like two putts to win the hole. Like, I mean, this is insane. You're making me putt. You're going to make me four putt right now. It's crazy. So I step up and I nail it. And like,

so no one said a word. I'm like, Jesus, these guys are cutthroat right now. Like, you're really making me sweat that? Like, obviously I'm putting like a fucking all over the place. Can you just give me this? So I'm thinking that in my head. Andrew putts for his bogey to win the hole and he blows it by. So now here's where the argument came in. Was it two feet? I said it was five feet. I'm bad when it comes to fucking measurements. But I don't say a

fucking word now because I'm steaming in my head being like these guys made me fucking put that thing coming back. So I'm just staring at Andrew. He's staring at me. He goes down. It's probably like a two foot putt. He misses it. And I go, that's a win for me and I walk to the cart. And now I feel like a piece of shit. I feel like Justin Thomas

out there at the President's Cup. I'm not giving out puts or whatever. But my whole thing was like when you're in the position, now we're arguing in the car, right? They're like, you just made us do the thing that you didn't want to do. You just won on a four put. That's insane. He made an eight. I made a seven.

My whole part was like, when you're in the position where Andrew was, where you have like a 12 footer and you need a putt to win, like wouldn't you almost always give the guy who's now putting for the seven, the putt after he just three, three, like they ended up making it more competitive and cut through it by making me make that seventh put, don't you think? What's your guys take on that? There were honestly like too many putts for me to follow. I'm kind of having a hard time.

I'm pretty confused too. I don't really know what everybody is putting. I know what everybody was putting for double and then he's putt for seven but I have two putts to win. Essentially my right. My putt for seven is behind his putt for six and they just like they refused to give it to me because like they said that I was mad. I walked up to it.

I didn't give him a chance to think and I drain that putt. So now I'm thinking to myself like these guys really wanted to win with like two puts from 10 feet. I thought that was bullshit to like. say we're going to make him miss this, make an eight, and now I have two putts for the win. I just feel like when you're in that like give me type of match and like everyone's kind of giving out puts. So your putt was outside of his, but you were mad they didn't give it to you and you hadn't given him his? Well, he had, no, I was mad when, yes, I was mad at the,

when I'm putting my seventh putt is essentially what I'm saying. I'm stepping into my seventh bud. I think I'm team and Andrew. But was your putt important? Like, did it matter of you majors? If you made your putt and he missed, you guys would have tied the, We would have tied the hole, yes. Am I taking crazy pills here? Why would they give that to you? That'd be crazy. Well, no, I mean, I ended up making the putt.

I guess the argument came when I didn't give him hit at the end. So like that's where, but do you guys think that like my point in saying like because you didn't give me that now like it's a real, now we're trying to make puts now? Yeah, that's, that's totally a thing. Like you're trying to make me for putt now. So like I'm going to make sure that ball goes in the hole now. I don't care if I was eight inches. Like they were saying essentially I'm an asshole. No, that's fair.

It took me a while to get to like the explanation. No, no, that's fair. That's totally fair. You're 100%. I 100% agree with you. And I would also say no one can ever, ever in the game of golf be upset about a non-given putt if they go ahead and miss that put. Never. By definition, it wasn't a gimmee.

Thank you. That's what I was saying. When JT pours in a two-footer, he then has at least earned, I would say, a platform on which he could chirp about that. put not being given. If you miss a put that you think should have been a gimmie, you are inherently by the nature of the term wrong and a fucking asshole. So the next couple holes, it's like they're making me feel like I'm the biggest dick in the world. They're saying it was within a putter grip. Like how do you not give that? And I'm saying like, I watched it from the side of the green. The ball rolled forever and you just missed it. Like I understand that we've been

kind of giving putts all day. You also tried to make me five putt at some point. You know what I mean? Like, you aren't giving me putts when I was. fucking playing tennis table tennis around the hole so like i'm gonna see that that ball goes in the hole i'm sorry like i made mine you missed yours and it just kind of brought up this discussion of like when you're in these matches like where do you then cross the line because it goes from like fun to like we want to win because like it was we're playing for money you're like playing wolf it got to the end i was a lone wolf on this one so like i end up winning three points like everything about it was very intense and when he missed it i kind of walked off being like wow yeah

fuck you guys, I just won that hole. And they're just like, how do you not give that? I hate that fucking moment of like who should be giving what. Like, I don't know. I think there's got to be a concrete rule. Like, it's got to be like what if it's ever going to be like that though, damn. I mean, that's like a utopian like thought. Like that's never going to happen.

No, it should just never be, you should never be allowed to be upset. Like I almost think it's never really acceptable to be upset about a non-gimmie. Like it's just never really acceptable. If it's that short, just put it in. Just put it and make it. it what's the issue if it's that easy of a put just step up and make it and go to the next hole who gives a flying fuck and i know like lurch would get upset a lot of times in the in the travel series where you'd be like he would he it'd be a very short butt we wouldn't give it to him and he would

miss it he would get upset that we didn't give it i'd be like well you miss him all the time like i'm not gonna give you a fucking of course we're not gonna give you a put you're out here striping it like fucking jack nicholas in the in the six 70s and like our only way to win is because you're a horrible putter. If you're going to keep missing putts, we're not going to give you puts. I guess my question to you guys is like, and everyone has to deal with this as listening to this podcast.

We all go out and we play our matches on the weekends. Do you have to set that precedent from the beginning, or are you allowed to turn on the switch towards the end? Like, is that an acceptable thing to you guys to be like, oh, it's the 16th hole. It's really tight. Now all of a sudden, I'm going to make sure you make this one foot slider.

As opposed to like, you know, on the fourth hole, Andrew hit the ball over the place. I'm like, just pick it up. I'm in for five. you're in for five it is what is move on to the next one but on the 16th hole we got we both first of all we both need to be a better putter we like three putt and four putt that's disgusting seven seven putts from a combined 50 feet like the biggest joke of all time but like i just turned on the switch i guess and they were like whoa like frankie's like that's like that's like

frankly's like that's like that clearly it's clearly gets escalated by other events in the match right like that's happened that again it's happened in our travel series many times where it's been like there's been a moment where you know you guys are mad that like uh Trent gets two strokes to this hole so you make a put like an eight inch putter something and then I'll walk over to Trent and say like we're not giving them a fucking put the rest of this entire round and then like that escalates things which is great like it's fine but there are different different things and I think it's always really hard to set a rule because like a two and a half foot put above the whole left of rider is way different than a three foot put directly below the

Like that's you're going to need somebody's going to need to put that. You know what I mean? So it's hard to just put like a, what are you going to say? Like any put inside of two and a half feet that's not downhill is good. Like no, it's just you know it when you see it and give somebody a putt. Speaking of putting, I want to say one thing. The broomstick putters are bullshit and I'm sick and tired of them. And I actually overheard a couple of the American caddies who will remain nameless.

That was hard to say. they were like, yeah, I mean, that thing's anchored for sure. Like, how can you tell me that that thing is not anchored? It's just like when they outlawed anchoring in 2016, this is not in the spirit of the rule to have your hands so close to your chest that no one could possibly tell whether it's anchored or not. It's just, I'm tired of it. I'm really tired of it.

I can't believe that guys are still allowed to use it. And I don't like the arm lock either because that's basically anchored up your side of your arm. And I don't hold it against anyone for using it because they're not cheaters, right? like it's legal. The blame lies with the USGA and not making that rule like hard and fast enough. But watching guys with their arm that are like, say like this, is my arm, is it anchored? I mean, you could never tell me.

And also, let's say it wasn't anchored. And then right before I put it, I go like this, like, you're not going to be able to pick that up. And so there were guys on the U.S. team who were annoyed by it because, you know, Adam Scott and Seawu Kim both putt with the broomstick. And I just think there needs to be a maximum length that a putter should be. And it shouldn't be the size of your driver. I just wanted to get that out there. I'm very, very anti-brim sticks.

You can go against broomsticks. That's fine. I like that. I mean, you can have your thing. I would say a post-that, like if it was, if it was an advantage,

wouldn't everyone use it? It's not an advantage. It's a clutch for people or a crutch. Crutch, not a clutch. It's a crutch. It's a crutch. It's a different.

Clutch would be like almost, it's like they're going to cataple with it or something. Yes, it's a crutch. Really fired a near when they want to step it up. Yeah, I just, I just, I just, I think it's like against the spirit of the rule of the anchor ban.

And I think it's impossible to tell whether these guys are anchoring it or not. And I just think it's kind of bullshit. I'm not against it at the recreational level. Like if you're 75 year old grandpa wants to use a longer putter, it doesn't bother me. But I think in professional competition, you should not be allowed to have your hand so close to your chest that you can't tell with the naked eye, whether it's like if one guy was holding it out here, that's one thing. But they're not. It's right up in here. Yeah, it's tight.

it's real tight yeah it's bullshit there's a gaping hole in that in the rules there yeah gaping hole just a gaping like my dad's singing karaoke downstairs well what kind of karaoke what's he saying?

I can barely hear but like the volume has increased there they came over to watch football and everyone was eating ribs and stuff and I just the volume just went up about 10 notches just about 10 minutes ago and I can just hear I could hear some harmonizing going down there I think he's probably singing ticket to ride by the Beatles

and it's just maybe I don't know. You guys obviously can't hear this, but it's a very funny scene that that's what I'm dealing with right now. Wow. We had an event on Wednesday at the President's Cup with a bunch of charlatans. Is that what you call them? Charlotteites? Charlottites? No, charlatans is a bad thing. That's like a fake. I was going to say, I don't think Charlottons is what you're going for.

Charlottons is like a fancy word for a fraud. I know. Charlotians. Charlottians, you think? Is it charlototians? That sounds right. Charlottons, North Carolina. So we had a great event there. Everybody's having a couple cocktails, and those cocktails were made by Owens mixers. It was incredibly easy.

I watched the bartenders do it all day long. They just put in vodka, and then they just poured Owens, which is our Barstool Transfusion mix. And boom, everybody had a fantastic cocktail. I was drinking them. We were all drinking them. It was a great time. You just pour your favorite liquor. You just add Owens and you're good to go.

It's that easy. They get a variety of mixtures that pair with any spirit, including the Barstall Transfusion. They got margarita mix. They got the grapefruit and lime, I think it is. I think that's what it is that they put in. You can make a nice poloma, which is really easy, which is what I'm going to probably drink a good amount this winter down, closer down to the southwest,

maybe after I arrive in L.A. A little margarita, it feels like, with that environment, that climate. Owens makes it that easy. In that case, you just pour tequila in and then you just add Owens. It's great. Go to Owensmixtures.com. Check the store locator to find a store that has Owens near you. if you don't feel like getting off the couch,

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Elwood. Elwood. Elwood. Elwood. It's not a daunt. What was it? It's a mule. It was a mule.

They got a great mule logo. So anyways, Owensmixers.com. They're the best. Go to the store locator. get it on GoPuff or Amazon, just at Owen. Tiger Woods has emerged. Tiger Woods. So Charlie Woods shot, I think, his career low in, like, won an event today.

And Tiger was on the bag. Rocking his President's Cup hat is what I'm seeing. Team guy. He's a team guy. They said he was zooming in all week talking to the guys, talking to the assistant captains about parings and stuff. He's obsessed with this. Is Charlie's event what kept him away from the President's Cup this week?

I believe that's the, that's the rumor. Full-time dad now. Yeah. We also got just family first. Justin Thomas has jumped in the mix on a very own Dan Rabaport's tweet where, you know, basically we're talking about we're not seeing Kevin Kisner on the course at all. And then Justin Thomas responded, said, I'm on his team. I don't even know Kevin Kisner was in the president's cup.

And then Kiz responded and just wrote, nice playing today because JT lost days. So they're clearly in one right now as they should. me. Had you seen that, Dan, or are you hearing that for the first time? No, yeah. I try to lock in on the podcast and turn out social media. I watched your eyes widen as, yeah, I was scared. Well, because JT claps back sometimes. Like, if you say something bullshit, JT will call you out. So I was like, oh, God. He's one guy that I rarely tweet about because for that very reason. I like to go after people who won't respond. There was that picture when they were warming up

in the dark. I guess that was what Saturday. When they were warming up in the dark and they took the picture of Jordan Spieth and him saying next to each other. It was like one person's had their morning coffee and the other guy is not. That is me in the morning. Like J.T. and I just have the same face and the same structure to our faces. Like we just, our faces can't wake up in the morning. I've gotten, bro, every single bar still classic this year. People ask me, when I get there, I feel fine.

We don't drink the night before. I wake up. I take a shower. I do the whole thing. I wait. I get there. And people are like, Whoa, rough night last night, Frankie?

Like, tough wake up this morning. And I'm just like, yeah, like a lot of travel. And I'm thinking to myself, like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? Do I look hung over? Do I look that disgusting right now? I have bags under my eyes, I guess. And when I saw J.T. Bitch morning face.

When I saw J.T. I'm like, that's what I look like. It's stunningly bad. Like, it's, yeah, I was like, J.T. looked like he was shitfaced the night before, even though he probably just like, there's something about this feminine face. and these round features that just take a little bit of time of getting going. I don't know what it is.

They're droopy in the morning. We were walking around the President's Cup on one of the days. And Frankie didn't hear the guy, but an old guy walked by. I said no idea who we were or anything like that. And I heard him say to his wife as he was walking away. He goes, oh, that must be Justin Thomas's little brother. It's just, you get that comparison all the time and it's still something that I just physically cannot see. It's not that I don't want to see it.

It's not that I don't want to see it. that I just don't see it. But everyone else on the planet appears to see it, but me. Wow. I see it in my own. I see it when I look in the mirror. It's nuts. All right, boys and girls.

I think that's it. I know we got Monday is the finale of the 27 Barstallel Classic Qualifiers this year. The next Barstall Classic event will be the championship at Greyhawk and Scottsdale the week and after Thanksgiving. So I'm going to be in Connecticut for a few. days. Then I'll be home. Then we do big cedar. And then our big travel for the year is pretty much over.

We got a couple things here and there. But we're in the fucking clear. The winter is my favorite time of year. Chill in Scottsdale. Play golf. Weather's perfect. You're coming to L.A. this winter, you promise me. I'll come to L.A. I've never been to L.A. amazingly, as much as we travel, it's a city I've never been to. My life.

I don't have a huge desire to go to L.A. I don't like traffic. I hate being in New York. I heard it's just gridlocked like a motherfucker. and California is a little bit like Florida to me where it's just weird motherfuckers Colorado. You have no idea what you're talking about respectfully. California's just got some weird people. California's full of weird

There's like 50 million people in California. I love San Diego and I love Monterey Peninsula. I don't have a feeling towards San Francisco. I haven't really actually spent any time in San Francisco. L.A. I liked. I was there for a couple days. I've went to Dave. I enjoyed L.A. I'm a big theatrics guy. I love the idea of like

maybe seeing a celebrity or two and like you're going to these places you don't know who you're going to see you got to keep your head on a swivel. I had drinks with Robbie Berger in L.A. We went on like that street where the street goes all the way up. I'd like to see Robbie Berger.

Yeah, LA's a good happening spot. I mean, it's a warmer New York City. It's pretty nice. I'm going to come. I'm going to come. We're going to play some golf. It's only like a five hour drive or something, four hour drive

from where I live, which is really weird to think about still. So I'm going to do L.A. This winter for sure. I'm definitely going to do it. But I'm just telling you why it hasn't been high on my list. I don't like this time.

You just love saying the word gridlock. You say gridlock more than any normal person says the word gridlock. Before we, I've flown in and out of New York like five times. It feels like in the last three weeks and it's just. Gridlock. Oh, God. Before we go, I'm actually, I have to drive this.

No, we're going to, I'm going, I'm driving down to Ocean City, Maryland on Friday. We're playing in the Ocean's Calling with O-A-R, Luminers, Dave Matthews, is Alas Morissette, fucking, it's crazy what we're doing. Unreal. Yeah, it's going to be a hell of a concert. there. I think we're playing on Saturday around like one o'clock or noon. We're opening up the show and like the side stage right when you walk in. So we'll be tweeting out all that information. But when I, after we get back from Big Cedar, I'm going to a wedding upstate New York in fucking Alex Bush country like up there

in Rochester. Where am I going, Alex? Is it Turning Stone? Is that the, is that the place that we're going up to? Yeah. Turning Stone. Turning Stone is this like casino that has a bunch of golf courses up there. My one thing that I used to have a tournament there. They used to have a Peachy Tour event there. That's what I heard. So I want to play this golf course. So if anyone that's up, that's listening to this podcast knows anyone at Turning Stone, you know where to find me because I want to play the morning before this wedding that I'm going to there. And I heard this place is legit.

Like, I thought I was going to the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm like, oh, we're staying at a hotel and it's got a casino. And then someone's like, there's a PGA tour event there all the time. Like, what? I need to play that golf course. So Turning Stone, I want to play. That's the thing I wanted to say. I had to get that.

I had to get that. I had to play that golf course. I'm actually A Muppet right there. I'm actually so I'm so relieved that Justin Thomas's tweet to me wasn't mean.

It's my head, by the way. I'm going to watch out, dude. He'll come for you. I was nervous. He's come after four play many times. Just calls us like incredible

and shit like that. We got Dan now, so we're good. Yeah, no, we're solid. All right. That's our President's Cup podcast

with President's interaction breakdown. We will be back on Thursday. That'll be our next show. And we're going to be kind of getting into the dog days of winter. So shit might get fucking weird. We're probably going to bring behind the greens podcast form back. We might try some new ideas, maybe some new segment ideas.

A couple years ago, I pitched a handful of segments. We liked them and then we've never done them. So we might do some segments. Maybe I'll do a whole other round of segment pitches that we just do live on the show. But it's time to get weird. We're pretty much done. The President's Cup's done. A lot of the attorneys that are coming up, you know, the big stars don't play.

The fields are weak. We do have new guys that we get to root for, Saw Hith, column Taryn, guys that will be hammering out. It feels like in a lot of these events. But dog days, I like it. We get weird shows. So yeah, stick around. That's the President's Cup.

Hope you enjoyed it. Hit it hard. Hit hard. Hit hard. Hit hard.