Fore Play - Tempers Flare

Episode Date: September 2, 2021

As contentious of a show as we’ve had all year. Fellow podcaster vs fellow podcaster. Man vs man. Is the Tour Championship scoring stupid or does it make sense? Are the analogies for it good or bad? Is the Tour lame for banning fans from yelling “Brooksie?” Is Riggs a turncoat for threatening to root for Europe if Kiz isn’t on the U.S. Ryder Cup team? Is he a coward for reaching for ways out of it? Is golfer tracker Twitter clouded by drama? This and much, much more in a long, heated show.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For Play, I'm at Barstool Sports. We have myself, Trent and Frankie there in studio. I am not. Lurch is not responding to text messages, so I assume that he's out slinging virtual reality or something of that nature. If he joins the show late, you will now understand why. Big news, Bryson DeShambo, yet again, every time we do a fucking show about.

golf. Bryson DeChambo is there. It's why he's kind of the ratings machine of golf even without necessarily probably wanting to be. Most of the time it is negative. So we got a lot to get to on that front. And again, the breaking news is that PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monaghan announced yesterday on

Tuesday that it will be deemed disrespectful and people will now run the risk of being banned, barred, ejected from PGA tour events if they yell Brooksie at Bryson Deschambo. I called it an embarrassing day for golf. I know we've discussed this at length. You could go back to months ago, whatever the video first came out, where Bryson said to the fans,

don't call me Brooksie, don't call me Brooksie, that everyone on earth is like, oh, yep, now everybody's going to call him Brooksie. It's going to get really bad. It's a few months later. It's gotten really bad.

But now it's got to the point where the BGA door is going to kick people out of the tournament for calling him someone else's name. That's where we're at, gentlemen. A couple of things I want to say before I get into what the PJ tour said. And first is, I think we would all agree. At least I personally think that the Brooksie joke isn't funny anymore. I think it's super duper played out.

We're now three or four months into this thing. And it just doesn't, like I understood the comedic value at first because their beef was really hot. And now we're just so far down the road on it that I don't think it's as funny, certainly, as it originally was. second thing, it's hard not to feel bad for the guy because he clearly doesn't know how to handle this situation whatsoever. Every move that he makes seemingly is the wrong one. It makes everything worse. He's just whatever is going on with him.

He's not equipped to handle a situation that he has found himself in with Brooks. Now, with all of that said, I do not like the move by the PGA tour. Because a couple of things, I don't think it's going to work. I think maybe it'll work for a few people. people. A few people will be like, oh, I don't want to get thrown out of this tournament, so I'm not going to do it. I do think there will be people who still do it. And it's just not the look that Bryson D. Chambot needs. He doesn't need, I understand that it's clearly getting to him. He has said that people who are playing with him at these tournaments are saying,

you hear it nonstop, and it's clearly affecting Bryson. But I don't think he needs Papa Bear PGA tour to then come out and say, if you say Brooksie during a tournament, you are going to get thrown out of the tournament. I don't think that's going to make it as, it's not going to make it better. It's not going to do what I think the PJ Tour thinks it's going to do. Yeah, if you yell Brooksie at Bryson, you are lame. I think that is extremely lame.

I think you deserve to be made fun of. I think hopefully people in the crowd are making fun of them. I heard there was one report that like Roger Moppey turned around and was just laying into a couple guys that were yelling and brooksy which i'm all for that's great having said all of that i couldn't agree more trit that banning it is again embarrassing this is it's not some vulgar thing that they're yelling at brice and de shambo it is and everyone agrees the tides have turned right like the players rory can't lay which we'll get into what they said have all come out and been like yeah bryce had brought some of it

himself but it's gone too far people shouldn't be heckled it's it's disrespectful in our game it's unfortunate what he has to deal with just because he doesn't handle um social situations or Twitter or whatever as well as a lot of other people or as well as Brooks doesn't mean that he should have to go through this pretty terrible thing. It's like clearly affecting him as a human being and a person. But guess what? It's a sporting event. People buy tickets and they're not going out there screaming, I'm going to fuck your girlfriend or if they say something ridiculous like that or like people were screaming at Rory that one time where we sort of justified like, yeah, kick those people out. If they're not screaming vulgar, ridiculous things, if they're

just calling him Brooksie, you can't kick him out for that. You can't even come close to kicking him out for that. The reason that the PJ Tor, Jay Bonahan makes like $4 million a year. Bryson makes way more than that. That is the tradeoff. You are choosing to live and play a sport in the public eye in a public arena. Those tickets put money in their pockets. The people that view on TV, us, put money in their pockets. And the exchange for that is clearly that people have the right to chime in and to chirp, to scream, to yell, to chant, like they do at every other sport. If they are saying, again, vulgar, preposterous things that go over the line that if a child is there, that you wouldn't feel comfortable if your child hearing it, those things should be banned.

Yelling Brooksie at the guy, as lame as it is, as much as I think it should stop, you can't be kicked out of an event for that. I think that is a horrible look for golf. I think us trying to forever make golf seem cool, golfers come off as athletes, is a big step backwards because people are yelling the word Brooksie at a guy. I think it's just a horrible, horrible look. Yeah. No, it's gotten to the point now, though, for me, where I don't know what else someone like Bryson is supposed to,

what he's supposed to do? It's gotten so out of hand. And I said this a couple of shows ago, but every single person that yells Brooksie, it's their first time ever seeing Brooks on that hole at that golf course in their life. So, like, it's never going to end. They're always going to keep doing it. This guy sees this.

It's not like a team where you go out there, you strand bases loaded. John Carlos Stanton strikes out on a low slider in the dirt, and the whole Yankee Stadium gives him the Bronx cheer, and they're all booing them until he gets back to the dugout. That's something that's, like, deserved. That's something that you know is expected. What Bryson de Chambot is going through right now is unprecedented. It's nonstop every step of the way.

We've seen people like Spieth be like it's out of control when you play with them. It's nonstop. Every time he walks away, all you hear is Brooksie, Brooksie, Brooksie, Brooksie, and for a guy that can't handle it, clearly can't handle it, what else is he supposed to do? I understand that this is like an outrageous thing for a sporting league to do, a professional sports league to say you can't say a certain word. I just think it's gotten so out of hand for this guy, something that is not even comparable to other sports. It's every step he takes another fucking college bro is screaming Brooksie.

guy can't handle it. He just can't. What is he supposed to do? Well, I would argue he can handle it. Like, he almost just won a golf tournament. Like, it's not like he's incapable of existing as a human being. He just played better than 69 guys really played better than, like, Patrick Cantley, except the guy made a bunch of bombs.

So, like, it's not like he can't even enter the tournament. Like, he almost won the fucking thing. No, I know, but we don't know what it's doing to the guy. And I know it sounds soft and probably not the take I'm usually going to have, especially when it comes to Brace de Chambot. but I just think he he can't get out of his own way and at some point the PGA tour had to be like all right at this point this is what we classify as bullying or taking to another level or I think they use disrespectful disrespectful like at this point it's something that's not like get in the bunker or like fuck you mashed potatoes mashed potatoes or bababooie or whatever like it's not that this is something that is so they want and we've joked about this with our fucking listeners and the people that follow us like do you you want him to, what do you want Bryson to do? Are you going to scream Brooksie at him so much that

he cries? Like, what is the end game for the people on the golf course? Are you going to relentlessly call him the wrong name where you know it annoys him so much that he's just going to break down and weep on the fairway? Is that where it's going to end? Because if it doesn't end that way, someone needs to step in and say, we have this guy's back. This guy that is a catalyst for bringing golf to a new level and hitting golf balls 400 yards, he makes us money. We make him money. We need to to step up for this guy at some point, no? Like, that's his boss stepping up for him saying, yeah, we have this guy's

back because he's getting relentlessly pushed around by our fan base, nonstop to the point where it's like bullying. They have to teach about this in school and what not to do to Bryson D. Chambot. But like what I, right, like Bryson tweeted, okay, on May 26th, two months ago, he tweeted at Kepka,

it's nice to be living rent free in your head with an exclamation point. Like, he isn't just some innocent, complete living. He puts videos out every couple weeks of himself. He is quite literally choosing to put himself out there to be judged. Like he's not in some hiding being like, I'm a recluse that can't handle this and suck. Like he is out there all of the time.

He's been partaking. And then when it got a little too hot, all of a sudden it's like he now needs to be coddled by the- It's not a little too hot. It's hot. But it's not that people aren't screaming at him like, we're going to rip your cock off. They're yelling, who, who cares? No, I know. I know.

I know. I know. I They aren't yelling that They're not right I don't think they are No They might start

But I are not yelling it currently But I have a solution for this And I said it weeks ago He has to come to this match With Dave Portnoy and Brooks Kebke It is over If he comes to the match This entire thing is completely squashed

Bryson Dichambe allows the whole entire world The golfing world The internet world Barstool world Everyone that knows of Bryson Nishambo They know that he's now in on the joke

They know that he can take the punches. They know that he is one of the guys that can joke around and he knows that it's not something like we're saying. He's not a recluso or whatever he said that he's sitting in the corner crying like John Tavares just left his team and went to the fucking Toronto Maple. He's like me. He can actually take a fucking jab once in a while. He's not doing that though. There's obviously something going on with Bryson that he can't make those decisions for himself. Like yeah, he's throwing out a couple jabs every once in a while trying to get a part of the mix because it's not ending. I think that tweet about the rent free things like he's

He's sitting down at a table being like, how do I end this? And is it about, do I join the punches? Do I, do I swing back? Like, somebody give me the equation on how to win this and stop people screaming Brooksie. I need someone to help me out. But like a few years, like, what was it a year ago or so? He on a live stream just started chirping Brooks Kepka about how he doesn't have abs.

And it's like, he's been, he is not some just innocent victim in the whole thing. That's what's driving me crazy is that like, people like, oh, we need to step up because he's the, the nerd at the locker that the, Jock just started to like pick on. That's not what happened. Like he was actively partaking and firing shots left and right to the point where Brooks Kepka had to respond with like the four, the pictures of his four major trophies at his staircase to like respond to the guy

at one point. Like he has, and so that's where, again, the two things for me that are making it ridiculous that they banned it is that the thing just isn't that bad. I just don't think it's that bad. It's the word Brooksie. That's like, yeah, it's annoying to him. But like they're not, they're not yelling some outrageous. vulgar thing that you have to cover your kids ears otherwise they'll be scarred for life that

somebody heard it they're yelling the other guy's name at him and then the other thing is that he has for this entire time up until like a month ago um been actively participate i feel bad for the guy i feel sorry as well but i do not think like i also like i said there's players in in in the NBA in the NHL who get booed and shit like thrown at them and ruthlessly like mocked all of the time this is sports this is like what it is and i don't think that yelling at just somebody else's name is crossing the line. Like, I just don't. It's annoying.

I think it's so lame. It gets to you as a human. Someone comes up to you and keeps calling you Steve and your name's Sam. And you know he's saying Steve relentlessly all night. So Steve, go get me a drink. You're just like, actually it's not my name, dude. Like, do you want to, like, if you say it one more time, I'm going to have to swing on you.

you. Like that happens in every aspect of life. If a guy's really trying to be a dick, they say the wrong name. That's what they're trying to do. They're trying to make him man. He every day when he goes out in golfs and he plays his profession knows that the majority of people hate him by joining in on this. He just knows it.

The PGA tour is basically allowing the entire fan base to rag on one guy. I don't know what their correct answer was for the PGA tour. I mean, I don't think they probably had to step in. I think what needs to happen is other players, like Jordan Speath made a couple comments when he played with them being like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Like it's nonstop. You need guys to just be like, this is fucking lame. Rory did it.

Rory did it. Like yesterday. That's what would end it. But the only reason they're saying that is in response to what the people. DJ tour did. Otherwise, I don't think that they would be answering those questions. So stupid, Colin. Like, I don't know. And I know exactly the type of people that are doing you. I can picture it in my head. They're all fucking cheersing their beers together laughing. They have it on Snapchat as they call them Brooksie. It's like nonstop. And it's every hole,

every course, every tournament. It's nonstop. The guy's probably just like fucking just let me We all agree it sucks. I think we all agree it sucks. I guess are you saying that you support the band is like the right thing to do? I don't know what the right thing to do is, but something had to be said out loud being like you guys fucking suck on the other side of the ropes you guys are all losers like something had to be known where like now we're all talking about it being like yeah you know what it is fucking pathetic that these guys like that's what like the only joke they can come up with like something had to happen or like if they didn't come out with this we're just calling him brooks in next week i don't know at east late just continues on forever but i think that's the fans right

that's my point is i think that is they're right if they want to be lame and losers and yell dumb shit like they've been yelling mashed potatoes forever i think that's unbelievably lame i don't think people should be kicked out for doing it yeah and it's we we definitely live in a softer world than we were brought like then we there once was this is obviously it's fucking pc culture and it's pacification of america at some point they have to like take a stand for someone being directly like verbally abused is what they're going to call it of them calling him brooksie they know they don't like he doesn't like to be called brooksie the other name and everyone's doing it. So at some point they had to stand up for their guy. I don't know. It's probably not the

right move to kick people out. That's insane to have like someone that paid to be there. I guess it's, they could say whatever the fuck you want. But as an entity, as a league, you have to stand by your guy at some point. And I don't even know if Brooks went. Brooks. See, here we go. I don't know if Bryson went there and like complained to them. What side do you guys go on that? Like I've seen a lot of tweets saying that he crawled to, you know, the leaders and was like, you have to do something about this. I think they probably did it on their own. I would guess they did it on their own, but, you know, I would guess that they probably even asked him, like, what do you, you know, like, what, is it that bad?

You know, and who knows what he said, but, I mean, the tour's always been pretty secretive with how they handle stuff. They don't publish what fines people get. They don't really come out and be very public with those types of things. And yeah, I do think, like, this had become a big part of the discourse. on and off the golf course every week. When Bryson's in contention, like people talk about what's being said. So the tour had to address it, obviously.

And maybe this is just a threat that, like you're saying, Frankie, hopefully they think that it could have the right effect without them actually having to kick people out. I just think, again, there's a difference between like just whatever I think is lame doesn't mean it should be banned from a tournament, right? I get that certain people have different takes on their price. And so as long as to me, it's not wildly offensive or vulgar or going to ruin somebody's day that they hear it. That a child hears it.

Again, it's something like you wouldn't want your kid to hear. Then I think for the most part, it should be allowed. And as much as I would love for it to go away, I think it is you are a loser if you do that. And the example you get, Frankie is perfect of like, I got it on my Snapchat. I shared up my friends. How funny is that? And it's like, oh, you did that. Is that really worth like hurting this guy's?

mental health. No, the answer was no, it's not. But on some level, you're a professional athlete in the arena that makes money off of these people. That is the deal. That is what you have agreed to. Otherwise, Bryson, go be a weightlifter or go be, I don't know, go get like another normal nine to five job if that's not what you want. But he has agreed to the tradeoff is, I make millions of dollars to play this game in front of millions of people. And this is the potential risk is that fans might not love me. I might see negative shit on the internet. Go look at any of the comments on like any Instagram video that I post. Like, are we going to ban people from like being able to comment on our Instagrams because it's negative and it hurts rig psyche?

No. This is the life that like I've agreed to that you guys have agreed to where we're able to have the air quote success that we have because we are public. We put our game, our thoughts, our swings, our videos out there to the public. And that is the tradeoff that we've agreed to. my opinion like that is the tradeoff that Bryson has agreed to and the the comments and words coming from the other side I don't think have been egregious enough to be banned yet that's what I think what I do think is going to work is the comments from guys like Rory and Patrick Cantley like that I get that the PJ tour them saying what they said sparked the conversation with Rory and Patrick Cantley but that's the stuff that's actually going to get through to the fans and I think people will

do it less and less because people very much respect Rory. Can'tley's coming off a win. People are people really like him now. Like I think that'll go a further way than the PJ tour being like, you're out of here if you say Brooksie. So I, I think it is going to get better, but not necessarily because the PJ tour is threatening to throw people out of it. You can't ban them. You can't ban people. No. You got it. I wish they could have came out with the statement saying you are a fucking loser. I wanted them to use that wording. You are a fucking loser if you call Bryce and Duchampo Brooksie. That's what I wish that would have happened. And that's my ultimate solution to the Brooksie situation.

What if we start a petition, okay, that the statement is just, you are a fucking loser if you call Bryson Brooksie, and then we just go lobby and get as many PGA tour players as we can to sign it. I like it. Yeah. I think they would sign it. It's just the dumbest joke now at this point. It was funny in the beginning.

I like watching guys get rattled. It's part of my entertainment. I like watching losing more than I like watching winning. I like misery more than I like happiness. I enjoyed watching Bryson Squirm, Blink, be a weirdo, be socially awkward. And even I, with the smallest and darkest and coldest of hearts, can see with fucking clear 2020 vision, even though I wear contacts, I could see that this is a problem at this point for this guy. because he cannot stand up for himself in the way that he needs to. He's just never going to catch up with the jokes.

He's just not one of the boys. He can't joke around with this crew, especially when he comes to Brooks. And part of my take, they're in another league. They are in another league. And no one is backing this guy up. Nobody. They're leaving him on a fucking island to just die. And yes, he's performing well.

He's playing good golf. But he just can't get in on the joke, man. he's just not capable of it. It's like, I don't know. Right. I'm not going to diagnose the guy with anything, but he has no social cues on how to be funny and like how to fucking join it on the joke. He even came on here and like his only joke was like Frankie butternize it and we went nuts.

It's like, but he's not actually like a, he's, I don't know how they fucking, we've seen all the videos, man. Watch one of his YouTube videos and tell me I'm wrong. And you are right when you say everything would be solved if he would caddy for Dave.

Oh my God. During the Brooks match. But in that same breath, we say there's no way he would do that because he doesn't see how much that would solve a lot of his problems. And that's really it. He's just not going to do it. It would be over, man. Brooks would like dapp him up and be like, thanks. Like that was funny. Something like that would happen. I think we said on a previous podcast when we were talking about the match where you then have Dave as an ally. Dave is an ally. Everyone there. Everyone there, thousand people at Liberty National all rooting on

Dave versus Brooks and Bryson's there holding it, teaching Dave how to hit shots and where to go. It's over it's over the entire bullshit brooksy stuff is done it's done he's just so dumb that he can't figure it out he's the smartest guy on tour and he's this fucking dumb it's it's it's the difference between street smart and book smart he is the dumbest street smart person i've ever met in my entire life i thought what rory said obviously what rory kind of by the way lurch is here as we talked about that hey look yeah hey guys how are you sorry to cut you no How you doing? Just listening to the last 15 minutes. Good conversation. Thank you. How do you think we've handled this? What do you think is, what do you think is right? And what do you think about what the PJ Tour said?

So we're like, you're both kind of on the same side where it's like it's right. Like you're a loser. If you say it, it's crazy that the PGA Tour like stepped in and said this. I don't think that's the right path. But the problem is like Bryson can't handle this. He can't be a person, he can't just like defuse this situation up front. So now it's escalated to a point of like no return. And so I kind of like the unity on the PGA tour side and now if like Riggs gets a petition signed by, I think that actually has some validity. It's the worst thing I've ever heard because like when players stand up for him, that is going to be the best outcome of like just shut up and chill out. Like you're all losers if you're saying this too. Bryson. So I think we're kind of in a middle ground with like seven right answers. We'll pull the strings a little bit and help the situation diffuse and like die.

I do think it's come to a point where now enough people have laid in and said like enough that I think it will slow down because, you know, the Instagrams and the snapchats are like the one person that sees them and wherever part of the country to get to rise out of like, you know, whatever their social media is so stupid. And it's like gone to a point now that it's just like enough. You'd almost hope that the PJ tour would work more behind the scenes and motivate answers like the one that Rory gave without them having to make this big show and say, you're banned, you're getting thrown out if you say Brooksie. Because I think we all agree that players saying we have sympathy for Bryson, we think it should probably stop. It's gotten to a point where it should probably stop. I think that is the best way. I really, I think we all agree also that the PJs we're going to be banned is not the right move.

The players, coming through the players is the right way. Jake, can you start on a graphic? Okay. And I think that the graphic should say, we do not support the PGA tour going as far as ejecting people for calling Bryson Brooksie. However, and then in like, well, something along that, But then in like large letters,

still know how to do business. You are a fucking loser if you call Bryson Brooksie. And then, you know, we'll do something along lines of like, we're inviting everyone to sign this or share this as a, as support for this sentiment. Something like along those lines. Change.org.

I think it is. Is that what it is? Yeah, I think you can do that, right? But I think, come up with a petition. I think we may, no,

is right. I think you make it a social graphic because that's kind of our world where if you share this then you clearly agree with what we're saying. And you'll go more that way. And then I would say each day we could even update the graphic with all the names of people that have shared it and if we actually

don't end up getting any names then we'll just ignore it and we'll forget that it happens. Right. Well probably yeah, we'll just say we never or we won't acknowledge it ever again. That's correct. We'll let it disappear. We'll just tweet about other stuff for a few days. He just shows up to the match on Tuesday. It's over. It's over. It's such Just simple.

I want to, like, shake them. I want to shake them like Adam Sandler does. And then give him a hug. And Billy Madison. Just fucking figure it out, man. You just got to show up to Liberty National on a Tuesday. It's as simple as that. Owens Mixers.

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I thought you were going to finish it off. I was going to go into a topic because we've been doing it. Oh, sorry. I figured we were good. No, it's okay. No, we're not good yet, Riggs. I'm going to read off exactly what a spirit is. and why we call it spirits.

Please. Back in the day, Middle Eastern alchemists were more concerned with medical, I mean, these are ridiculous words, elixirs? Elixirs. Okay, what is that?

It's like a, like a potion. Back in the day, Middle Eastern alchemists were more concerned with medical elixirs than with turning lead into gold. The vapor given off and collected during

alchemical process this is really exposed as with this is going so much the way it's really what I'm picking up is that they used it medically and that's why they would call today june these words are insane and the way it's written it's like it goes down like a scroll so like half these words they wrote them left

the right and it's I don't understand left the top to bite group group words half the words have a dash next to him because it goes on to the next level the next sentence so it was a fucking nightmare here's another example monks in Europe during the 12th century believe that the spirit was removed from the mash during distilling process. To this day, some European rye whiskey drinkers still pour out the first shot onto the ground

in order to give the angels their share. That's a, I like that. See, that's well better. That one you could actually read too. Yeah. You know how when you're reading something sometimes and it's zoomed in, it'll give you the dash and continue the word on the next line? Yeah.

That's what was happening with all these alchemist lines. Sorry. So a spirit is a specific liquor. Your voice sounds horrible. You're all right, Jake? No, I'm not. I'm getting run off from what Frankie had. The term spirit refers to a certain distilled beverage that has no added sugar and that has at least 20% alcohol by volume.

You just gave the definition. You just gave a definition of what alcohol is. You said what's the difference between a spirit and a liquor. No. No, we wanted like the angel one. Why is it called a spirit? Where did it come from? Where did it originate from?

I know what it is. I know what alcohol is. I thought you guys wanted the difference. I love it. Good chime in, Jake. That was good. I enjoyed that. See it 90 minutes.

All right. How close are we go? Yeah, we got about an hour. Jake, keep your head on a swivel there. You get a chance to redeem yourself in an hour. All right. James Hahn had a very funny tweet. He said, it's official.

Calling Bryson, anything but his real name will get you thrown out of a golf tournament. So if anyone of you call me Kevin Nod, Danny Lee, or Sang Moon Bay, we're going to have some problems. Very, very funny tweet right there of just kind of, again, shedding light on some of the shit that these guys hear and just being called the wrong thing. That would actually be a really funny segment when you have certain people on. It's just what's like the most common wrong, you know, person that you get called. It must happen all the time. It must happen constantly. Big time. And like with, I don't know, sometimes we'll just see somebody walking on the fair when you're just like, I kind of know who that person is.

They have the similar body type to someone, but then it ends up being someone completely opposite. Because a lot of those guy, a lot of just like what they wear. It's all very similar. Like we thought that one guy was Bubba Watson when we were out at Liberty National. And it just because he was left-handed basically. Any wore a visor and we're like, oh, that's Bubba.

He was like, nope. I still don't know who that was. No clue. That's a funny tweet by James Hahn, though. There was a lefty wearing a visor hitting like a massive three-wood with a crazy like whipping action as his fault. It wasn't Bobba Watson. That was incredible, and it wasn't him.

I don't know. We just didn't. There was somebody on the tour, though. 100%. Well, yeah, it was a BJ tour event. It is a, no, I know, but I just didn't know, like, if that was earlier in the week where maybe somebody else could be hitting at that time. No, no, it was a professional golfer for sure.

And we ended up, we saw him. I was actually going to side with Lurch because we did talk a lot about the pro. No, we saw him on the putting green like the next morning. Remember? That's right. You and I were like, oh, that's who that was. We couldn't remember the name. I'm sure you just look up left-handers on tour.

This guy, I'd never fucking seen him before. Apparently, he's never on TV because we pay a good amount of attention to professional golf. We're not experts. We know that. But, man, we had never seen him before. And he did look just like Bubba having the whole lefty situation going on. I might have to follow James Hahn on Twitter if he's funny on Twitter.

That's a good tweet. You can tell, too, that had just been something that's been on his mind forever. Because he's like, oh, I finally got a way to. kind of expressed that this happens to me all the time and makes you think. I'm sure it does happen to a lot of different guys all the time. It's probably pretty fucking annoying. All right. I've got some interesting drama that I would like to discuss that relates to golf and

golf Twitter. And it comes from a notice that really pertains strongly to. this realm of golf Twitter that we've dabbled in a little bit, but usually in a ricochet fashion, we've kind of dabbled in it. It's come up a few times. Dave Portnoy actually dabbled in it at one point last year during the Masters tournament, and it has to do with the professional golfer tracking community. Okay.

Now, if you recall about a year or so ago, I believe this podcast had to issue a four Apology to, I think, T.W. Spot, which is an amateur Tiger Woods tracking account who runs Instagram and runs Twitter. The reason I call it amateur is not in the product, but, you know, there's Tiger Woods tracker who is a professional journalist who has inside the Ropes Access, RIP, literally, who can literally comment on everything that Tiger Woods is doing. The amateur version is someone who's just at home with a computer trying to track Tiger around the world. we got to do it with this figure because we, I think, dragged him through the mud for no real reason.

And then he started just demanding apologies from us on Twitter. And ultimately, we agreed that it was inappropriate for us to drag this person. And we apologize. People actually suspected that it might be us running the accounts. I think that was running the account. Yeah, I think that was part of the dragging where I just decided to claim that since it's an anonymous account, that it could just be me. And I still stand by that, actually. I don't know if that's still part of the apology,

but I could still run that account. You just don't know. Tale between our legs, we apologize. I think maybe Frankie issued an apology, and we as a group apologize to this account for slandering their good name. Well, since that time, this account has spearheaded a group of trackers under the brand name of Nuclear Golf, N-U-C-L-R.

They have a website, and what this anonymous account, Tiger Woods Spot, I believe was the original led to was a conglomerate of tracking accounts who live and breathe to track their respective favorite golfers. And I saw something that came across my radar two days ago. This is a public relations release from nuclear golf. And it's August 30th, 2021.

It's an update on our trackers and the future. Okay. is what this says. And I'm going to go through and read this release. It says, When trackers first joined us, we made clear to them that, one,

we would never control their accounts. Two, never control the contents of their posts. And three, never force them to stay with us if they no longer wish to do so, regardless of their reasoning. It then goes on to say,

while it may be easy for folks to speculate that some form of drama went on behind the scenes with folks on our team or with our first successful product launch, that could not be farther from the truth. Every tracker can independently confirm this. We were always respectful and supportive of one another while advancing our mission to deliver accurate updates

for some of the game's best players. Now, I'm going to pause and say that what they do is an extremely worthy and noble cause. These guys love the fucking game. Okay. There's tracking JT. There's tracking Speeth. There's tracking Lowry.

If you remember Shane Lowry, when Dave was getting into Lowry Tracker, Lowry Tracker turned up that even though he loved the game, like he was at work and he just couldn't update sometimes. So these people are trying as best as they fucking can to update folks. They got brought on under this nuclear golf tracking umbrella. And they're now having some drama where it seems there are some fractions amongst the group. Although they are saying that that is not the case.

Not the case. They said, and very clear, that while it may be easy for folks to speculate that some form of drama, and again, it is easy for folks to speculate. Some drama went on behind the scenes with folks on our team with our mission. That could not be farther from the truth that every tracker can independently confirm this. They go on to say, we are forever grateful for every tracker that has ever collaborated with us. Very nice sentiment. Since we launched, nuclear has always intended to shine a light on some of the hardest working trackers, the community while doing so in a team environment that we had never done before.

They go on to say, this is where, this is where, in my opinion, you know, it starts to get really good. We could state again with absolute confidence we have always done everything we positively can. As the season winds down, some trackers have decided to move forward on their own. These decisions did not happen quickly and were discussed at great length. we completely respect these choices and wish at tracking JT and at tracking Phil nothing but the best. They run incredible accounts and we cannot take them enough for everything that they've done. So boys, we have two accounts, okay, tracking JT and tracking Phil who have decided to separate and go off on their own. And I will now read the statement from tracking Phil who tweeted out.

Yesterday, I believe, maybe two days ago. I can't believe I didn't see this on Golf Channel. Just want to let everyone know I have made the decision to leave nuclear golf. I got a couple questions once we're done here. Please let me finish, Travis. Sure. I enjoyed working with the guys there, think they have great ideas. They're going to do well, but I feel that it's time for me to move on.

I missed being solo and having my own profile. Tracking JT. tweeted a little bit less profound, I would say. Not sure how many of you care what I do with this account, but I should clear up that I did part with nuclear golf. I just have more fun and enjoy things. When I do it solo, a lot of respect for those guys. Dude, what is nuclear golf?

I don't know, but I like JT's stance. The first opener of not sure anybody cares, but I've left New York golf. Way better opener than taking a mysterious road and just like very formal. I don't know, man. I think I like my trackers acting like they need to send out press releases. They just got done talking to their agents and their team's agents, and they had to come up with the perfect press release

as to why they can't be a part of the conglomerate that is nuclear golf. I guess my number one question is, what's the benefit of being under the nuclear umbrella? It's unclear, Trent. So I know they had this product launch, this product launch recently. You know, I don't know if they get a cut of that. What kind of product are we talking about? They got water bottles, tublers, I was looking at.

Got swag. It's also. Yeah, I got some swag. It's also, and I'm not Sherlock Holmes, but it's pretty clear that though nuclear claims that nothing happened behind the scenes, something happened behind the scenes with tracking JT and tracking. Big time. I just, I just, I'm trying to put the pieces together.

And I think that's it. Absolutely. And I, you know, I hope maybe we can bring those guys on and try to explore and get to the bottom of what could have occurred. Because any time there's a release that says, while folks are speculated,

there's a drive behind the scenes, we could confirm that there wasn't. I mean, something happened. That is true because I can't go on Twitter without seeing speculation that there was something going on behind the scenes. Someone wrote on that tweet, first of all responses.

That sounds like, serious it is. You can't even reply to it. Someone wrote, this has to be a fucking parody account. Also, what's stopping, again, I don't want to start a war. I'm actually just learning about this. This is the first time I've heard about any of this. But what's stopping the nuclear conglomerate from just making another tracking JT and tracking fill account and they give it to somebody else? And then they still have those two players under their umbrella. I don't know that he can just replace talent like that.

Okay. I think if it was, you know, if it was that easy. everybody would just be running nuclear golf tracking conglomerates but I don't I don't know I think if you lose that talent It's it's tough to replace it probably doesn't come off as authentic as it did right? I mean these guys live breathe and die Tracking their guy and if they want to take their talents elsewhere or You know Pursue independent options It's nice I guess that nuclear golf allows them to do so without any drama whatsoever behind the scene And to be clear about the tracking community, like Tiger Tracker, the official one that we all follow and loved and thought it was a great account, the reason, part of the reason that was so special was that that person was going to every single event that Tiger was in.

And he was literally standing next to Tiger giving us updates on what's going on. These other trackers, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, are they not just on PJTor.com watching? the updates of essentially what's a game cast and then tweeting out what's going on with that particular player. Right. But from my vantage point, which we could be wrong, we're not, again, we're not experts on the community. We're just from afar.

We're kind of what we see. But I think they're basically just transcribing onto Twitter what gets posted on to Shotlink on PG. And I would argue there is real value in that. Absolutely. So as it is right now, you follow nuclear golf and you just get nonstop updates about. all things PGA tour during the, you won't know exactly who's given it to you.

Is that why those guys broke away because they wanted to be part of their own accounts? They want to be autonomous. Right. So nuclear golf, you don't know exactly who the updates are coming from, right? They just gave the log info to all these trackers.

See, I was under the impression that nuclear, the golf, the Twitter account, again, correct me if I'm wrong, is just a place where all these tracking Twitter accounts live, but the other accounts still live

tweet their own players action. That's right. That's right, Frankie. I would equate it to nuclear golf is Barstool Sports. That's how I was thinking about.

But they don't like retweet it like they tweet it like they tweet them out. Like nuclear, nuclear golf's the one who's tweeting out the updates. It's not like they're retweeting Phil and Tiger and JT. See, that's a mistake on nuclear. I can't even find the account.

Can anybody? You're the worst internet user of all time. They have a full blown website that would have complete tracking and updates of the best players in the world, round summaries. So I'd imagine it'd be like a blog. It's a website. So just like the PGA Tour app? And it's a website and they have like a, it seems like a discord where you can discuss

your favorite players with other like-minded super fans. I love that these guys think that they know what happened on the golf course before anyone else. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like this, there is no need for this business. You understand what I'm saying? Like when when the information becomes available what Bryson D. Shambot did on the golf hole,

we will know at the same time as nuclear golf because it will have just happened. I don't know. I don't know because if you're not on that tour cast and you're not on that specific player, you can you can curt. Don't you diminish what they do. This is where it's applicable. And it's where this whole thing started with us at least where Dave was at the Philly Gambling House. gambling on Shane Lowry.

And Shane Lowry was not part of the broadcast that was currently being aired on television or any of the streaming services. So for updates on Dave's bet, he needed someone who was specifically tracking Shane Lowry and the only person who was doing that tweeting on updates, Dave's not going to go to ShotTracker. Right, but he could have is my point.

Instead of following Shane Lowry on Twitter, he could have just followed a scoring app At the same time, you know what I mean? I think it's more, it's, it's easier, more easily digested if it's in a tweet. Okay. I think. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's the same reason why. I get it. It's like beat writers and fucking baseball and hockey. But Dave always shits on those guys too where it's like, uh, like a touchdown will happen. The Texans have gone up seven nothing in the, but that football game is on TV. Right. I know. I know.

But just these like reporters, I laugh about it all the time with hockey. You diminishing. the tracking community is incredible. This guy, Arthur Staple for the Islanders, he's just like, the New York Islanders are up one-nothing after a goal by Anders Lee. It's like, it's like right next to the Islanders tweet about it. It's like that guy's job just to repeat what happened.

I don't understand. Wow. Sorry. It's crazy. I actually, I like Tiger Woods. You're mocking these professionals. No, I'm not because I actually like Tiger Woods tracker.

I like our guy. Yeah. Easily the best one because he was at every event. And that also he was there. You could argue that every shot that Tiger hits is on TV. So why do you need Tiger? Because he did different stuff, man. Like he was letting you know about like the vibe on the golf course and Tiger making like like like like winking at people or like you were able to get you, you felt like you were there with Tiger because he was physically there.

Tiger Woods tracker. You know what I mean? And listen, I don't want it. I don't want nuclear to start coming after maybe. You might have a press release. I don't want a press release. It sounds like you do. It sounds like you don't think there's a purpose.

just for nuclear golf and subsequent trackers. The thing that got me was where they tweeted out themselves. I think it'd be a better, it'd be better umbrella if I could follow nuclear golf and I could see all the different accounts tweeting about what happened in that day, that given day. I don't like that nuclear takes a voice and a name away from these guys who are, you know, they're deep in the interwebs of golf. That I agree with. I've yet to, again, I hesitate to say this because they do scare me.

me. Right. I just, I don't know yet what the benefits are of being under the umbrella. Maybe they have part of the revenue share of the merch that's sold. Maybe they are open to other opportunities within nuclear. I don't, I don't know those things. But to me, if I was a tracker, I would just be, I'd be a lone wolf, I think. I mean, I would like to find out who's under the umbrella of, of the nuclear tracker and what their justification is. for taking their talents to nuclear golf. Right. I'd also like to know,

these are my favorite tweets ever, man. So I'm on nuclear golf looking at the people that they follow. And like you can just go right down the list of all the trackers, like tracking John Ron, Phil Nicholson tracker. It would be interesting to get the take from these people of what the benefit is to be on nuclear golf. August 15th, they sent out a tweet with one of those, the sirens, right, that was breaking news.

I would like to thank at Spieth Legion for all of his tracking and content during his time with nuclear golf. He is one of the hardest working and loyal accounts and I enjoyed his collaboration. I wish him nothing but the best as he embarks on a journey to take his account in a new direction. And then he finished it with the praying hands. How many followers with nuclear golf? I think it was like 3,000. Like 3,500. I'd also like to know who is the tracker for the lowest ranked player?

who's the lowest ranked player that is tracked? That's a person I respect. I respect all these guys. But Spieth and JT tracker and a Tiger trial, like that's an easier job to have. When you're tracking. Up and comer, they've got Akshay Batia, that youngster.

Scott Harrington tracker. Okay, now we're talking. Okay. Frankie, you're telling me now between Speeth Legion, tracking JT, tracking Bill. We've had three big. exits in the last few weeks. Yep.

Something's happening. Something's going on now. We've got an Anthony Kim tracker in it in his bios. Hasn't been that busy. I would have to be patiently waiting for AK's return. Damn it. Please come back. That guy, that guy just, boy, he picked the wrong horse.

To keep his active. In July, in July, I guess he retweeted a picture of Anthony Kim, like, walking down the open and he goes two legends world was a lot better place 10 years ago with a sad face i get yeah you you pick one guy and you i guess you can't pick another you got to have loyalty to that guy forever we're going to get deeper into this obviously but first to unjunk your sleep go to mattress firm dot com or a mattress firm store today speak with a sleep expert america has a problem everyone's exhausted they're out of it because they're not sleeping in a bed that is just right for them the sleep they are getting sucks this problem has a name it is called junk sleep

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It's like where are you going to rest? Don't you sleep like more? Don't you sleep like a third of your life away or something like that? Yeah, well, think about it. If you get the recommended eight hours, that's a third of every day. Right. You sleep, you're on this thing for a third of your life. I was thinking about that the other day.

Unless you die early, then it's less. That is. That's true. But if you sleep, let's say you sleep eight hours every night, which rarely people do. But if you do and you live to your, you know, 66 years old, did you, you slept for 22 years? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like, 22 years you were just asleep. That fucked me up the other day.

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Swear to God. What the fuck. If you live for 75 years, you're asleep for 25 years. 25 years. What do we do? You got to cut it. down to seven hours and I think it's things to take away. We got to figure out how to save you a year.

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Right. He works all the time. He's probably slept for two years. But I was thinking about that the other day, just like... And I had the same reaction you did when I thought about it because the math checks out. I got to be honest. That makes me want to fucking puke. Right.

Because you think 22 years, again, basing it off the 66 years, like that's... 22 years is just a lot of time. Like, you think... I think if you, so you're only what? You're in a waking state for actually 44 years. So are you actually 44 years old? No, I guess your body is still aging while you sleep. But you're only awake and, you know, interacting with the world for 44 of the 66 years.

You think about like commuting to work and back. Like how many years are you actually alive, man? Right. Like doing things. Is it in a 66, in 70 years, is it, is it less than 10 years of doing things? things, you know? Yeah. Like if you sleep for eight and you travel for three each day and like, when are you actually doing stuff? You're working. When are you doing things? Are you alive on your own as a working human being for like five years of your life? You know what I mean? Like,

like if you take work, sleep. Like if you bake in weekends and all the stuff, like when are you actually just enjoying yourself? Work, sleep. and commute, you take all those things, you add all those up after a 70 year life. How many years are you wasting doing those three things? Right. This is how like 65 years. This is how Colts get started of like fuck society,

fuck sleeping. We're going to like go live on an island by ourselves. And that's, I think it's a dangerous bat. Yeah. I'm nauseous. Yeah, because think about on a weekday for, if you have like a normal nine to five job,

you work, you commute, You sleep. My buddy Rob. My buddy Rob. He doesn't laugh at work. His teeth are falling out inside his ham and she's sandwiches. He fell down trying to get ornaments out of the attic and he broke his fucking arm and his leg. He's going to physical therapy right now for his finger because he slipped at the Mets game.

I don't know if I told you that. He fell down the stairs and he'll never bend his finger the same way again. So he works, what, nine to five? And then what time? Doesn't laugh the whole time. He sleeps obviously eight hours or whatever. What time does he probably? go to bed. I don't know, probably 10.30. 11. Let's say 11. 11. So that is, say he gets off

at 5. He commutes. He's home sitting on the couch at 6. So that's five hours a day that you get to do. The thing that's something that you would like to do. And then you have the time shit's closed, right? Like from 10 o'clock to 11, you can't do anything. You're laying in bed. And you got to watching movies. You're enjoying life. You got to factor in weekends. You have more time to do whatever you want. But I will, I can't crunch the numbers right now. But it's, it's, it's, It's roughly 20%. So like if you live to 80, you're getting, what, 18 years? 15 years?

Is that right? No. What's 20% of 80? If you live to 100, you're getting 20 years. It's roughly 16. You get 16 years of living your life. Out of 80 years. Out of 80 years.

You've got all that stuff into 16. It's a scary proposition when you're going to break down the numbers. true there are different times move move on out to Scottsdale enjoy yourselves a little bit you know it's really starting to make you think it's starting to make you think from when you're like it really does make you think when you're born to yeah I'm telling it or something oh right yeah yeah we're but like when you're retired you have a lot more time but still on average you're losing a lot of time on this earth but when you're fucking bullshit but when you're 10 you're not doing what you want you're like oh oh I'm going to daycare it's like this boner Yeah, like you don't know, you don't have control. Once you have control, what is that boner about?

Once you have control. How do I get rid of this hard dick? Yeah. This is very inconvenient. All right. Now, we don't have to really get into this, but jerking off. This is something we all like to do, I would imagine. But that's taking up a decent level of time too.

Right. So it's just doctors like, what have you been doing all this? Again, I would put that in the positive category. I'm not putting that into something. Although it is more a matter of like function and just like, Like whatever. But yeah, you start throwing all these numbers together, and we got like 12 to 15 years where we get to do whatever we want out of 80.

Get your mattress. Does it mattress firm? Yeah, mattresses firm is great. Really good. Rider Cup. So we got Phil Mickelson and Fred Couples were announced as the assistant captains for the Ryder Cup team. Just a few moments ago. Phil, I don't know that it was necessarily a surprise.

It's kind of the boys club. Fred Couples always going to get. these kinds of nods because Freddy's the man. Freddie boom boom, everybody fucking loves Freddy. So yeah, I don't know that we have any hot takes about it. Phil, you know, I mean, Phil's bid on every team.

So I think people are speculating not to keep harping on speculation that could occur in the golf community, but people are speculating that this means Phil won't be a pick on the team if he's being chosen as an assistant captain. I don't know how much we buy into that. Tiger Woods was the playing captain at President's Cup. Obviously, it's just not the Ritter Cup, but the President's Cup a few years ago in Royal Melbourne,

but yeah, anybody got any real thoughts on Phil being a assistant captain? No, no real thoughts. I think you kind of nailed the nail on the head. Yep, you nailed the nail on the head. You hit the nail on the head, baby. Two good morale guys, you know. It's good to see boom, boom, walking around.

Anytime you see that guy walking around in a golf course, I feel like it's a good thing. It's a calming presence. I FaceTimed him of Pirelli's after an Islanders win. Is that breaking news? Oh, yeah. I told you guys this. Did you tell it to the podcast?

I think you've said that on the show. I remember I was running around screaming, falling down the thing, and I called them Bam Bam. People got mad at me. Oh, that's right. Of course we put it out as a fucking promo. It was like sometimes you just fucking say the wrong thing. It was all over on Instagram.

I was like, this guy's a fucking idiot. But I FaceTime with that. Bam Bam. It was nuts. You know, I mean, I can't even say the right word. I don't even know. Dude, the other day I laid in bed and I tried to think of who the starting goaltender of the New York Island.

was just couldn't come up with it i knew them knew everything about him knew the name knew the number could picture i mean knew the knew the new the fucking team obviously and i was just like couldn't think i had to look it up that's how bad my brain is so when i say bam bam it's just because my fucking brain isn't working anyway guy couldn't be more nice i mean you know this we've heard all the stories about fucking freddy couples um it was a joe la cave he was at perellies and he's he just had cadd for him uh the week before and we were talking and yeah we had a nice conversation about the islanders about golf about barstooles about life.

It was a nice conversation. Now that guy's just going to be in charge of the Ryder Cup. I like it. I like our chances with a guy like that and Phil Mickelson, good morale guys, you know, a lot of history. I feel good about it.

What I don't feel good about is the actual team and the morale. The team morale is what we've got to be worried about. The captains are always going to be the good choices. Team hates each other. They do. It's an enormous, enormous, enormous issue going into this whole thing at this point. And somebody had a great tweet that kind of went a little viral.

I'm scrolling down to find it right now, but it was listing all of the relationships and the flaws in the relationships of the team and the fact that obviously Bryson and Brooks hate each other, Jordan Speath and Patrick Reed. Now, who knows if Reed, I mean, he's pretty much dying, it sounds like, of pneumonia, so I don't know that he'll be a pick. But I saw a tweet that he's driving to the turn. Yeah, I saw it.

He's driving to East Lake because they don't think that his, his lungs will be able to handle the cabin pressure. I didn't even see that. Unbelievable. No, it feels like for that close, like, what are we even doing? Like, if it's that bad. A doctor, Michael. I actually read that on nuclear just about a couple of minutes ago.

So shout out to nuclear. Great news source. Nuclear tweeted that out with no source, just tweeted out that they heard this, that he can't handle the cabin pressure, is driving to Eastlake on a bus. and he had a practice round that was examined by a personal medical doctor at his house, and everything went fine. Shout out to nuclear. No source?

No source, just nuclear. Nuclear is a source. Should we start just tweeting stuff out that just doesn't, we don't have any, we don't need a source? We just tweet out things that we think could be true. I started doing that with the Islanders last year. I got a lot of, you know, people were really putting in a lot of, um, Like, they trusted me, a lot of trust in my tweets or just Islanders news in general at one point. And I remember there was speculation that the Islanders were going to do something at the trade deadline.

And I just tweeted out a picture of Lou Lamarillo, like, thinking. And I wrote just like the eye emojis. And I had even guys on the Islanders tweet text me being like, what is this? And I was like, I don't know. I just wanted to stir something up. Just wanted the people to think that something was happening. You got to feel powerful. I felt real good.

Everyone was like, what do you know? I was about to write like just nothing. I know nothing. I'm like at a carnival right now playing fucking bullshit games. I know nothing. But yeah, the Ryder Cup team is a mess. We have Brooks and DJ don't particularly like each other. I mean, last year at the PJ Championship,

Brooks started firing shots. DJA being like, yeah, the guy's only one, and it sort of started to trickle out that the two of them may not be as close friends as everybody thought beforehand. So yeah, we've got this team now that by all accounts, from a chemistry standpoint, from a locker room standpoint, is a complete disaster. It is actually amazing how little I've thought about DJ and Brooks, about their relationship. Since this whole Bryson thing started, the DJ Brooks thing was the number one sort of rivalry,

you could say, because of the PJ Championship stuff. And that was, looking back, that is so mild compared to everything that has happened between Bryson and Brooks now, that like bryson or brooks and dj is something that like i don't even think about it anymore but that's pretty amazing that we've come this far yeah there was like a moment where they it seems like they despised each other last year right i think it was all surrounding those bj championship comments and and now so i was thinking about this and i know we've been talking a lot about the entire you know um bryson brooks thing that was and you know what we're what we're supposed to do um But I think it would be genius.

I don't even know if it's genius could be idiotic. I think they should just pair Bryson and Brooks together first day, first round. And the reasons why are if they win, it solves a million things. There'll be clips forever of them, high-fiving, of them smiling. It'll get rid of the Brooksie stuff because the two of them literally played together and won, and it squashes the entire thing. If they lose, it puts the Ryder Cup at the front of every, news story sports

sports wise over the entire weekend and puts everyone's attention on the Ryder Cup because you will have drama, you will have the quotes from afterwards, you will have moments where like Brooks is rolling his eyes at Bryson and you'll have complete chaos. I think it's a

I think you almost have to do it. Because if you just avoid it then you're just adding to the giant elephant in the room that like we have two guys that fucking hate each other that can't play together. I think if you just lean right into it, there are more awesome outcomes than there are if you do anything else.

Right. Steve Stricker has to decide what headlines does he want because he's going to get him. No matter what, like you're saying, matter what. Don't pair them together, headline. Pair them together, headline. But the benefit of them being paired together and winning changes the whole landscape of the rest of the Ryder Cup. I think you're right about that.

You almost win the Ryder Cup. If they go out there and they play together and they win their match, like you just win the Ryder Cup, I think. Like your whole team is just like, holy fuck. Brooks and Bryson came together and won for the United States of America. Like, it's everybody's positive. Everybody's rooting for Bryce and everybody's like, we love you, Bryson.

He's probably happy and he gets this huge weight off his shoulders. I think you just pair him together first round. Like I said, you do run the risk of it being a complete catastrophe. But guess what? Then your ratings are going to be through the roof. PG of America is going to be excited because everybody's, you know, tickets are not going to be a problem. But I mean, everyone's going to tune in to be like, what the fuck is going on in Wisconsin up there?

Like Brooks and Bryson, the only thing that me, some average football fan who the only thing I know about golf is that Brooks Kepka and Bryson DeShambo hate each other because I heard it on part of my take and then I tune in occasionally to see ridiculous clips on Twitter, those motherfuckers played together and they got killed and they're like chirping each other in the media now and all the other players are being asked about it. Like the chemistry already sucks throughout the whole team. I think you just do it. Yeah, Ryder Cup for sure. I was very against them doing it at the U.S. Open because it was be, there's no team aspect there. It would have been very awkward. Yeah.

You would have like tried to squash a beef for no reason. But Ryder Cup, I could not be more on your side. I think it's absolutely the go-to option. If he's not going to show up here at Liberty for the day of Brooks match, he has to be paired up with Brooks day one on the same team. it makes me angry at how little chance that probably has of happening. I know. You know?

I know. Do we think Tiger Wood is going to show up to the Ryder Cup? My gut says no. My gut says yes. Same. I think so too. Fuck, you guys just got me really excited. I think so too.

He's been showing up here and there. You know, you see pictures of him going to different, his kids' tournaments and and soccer games and he's walking around now he doesn't even have he didn't even have like the the sleeve on his leg the last time we saw him his ankle looked pretty exposed like he just all he had was the crutches like i think at this point we all know tiger woods is recovering from a surgery it's not like he's hiding anything at this point um i think it'd be pretty normal to see him there even if he had crutches on it wouldn't be a shock to the system which i feel like is what he tries to avoid is these shocking images of him like and and and him looking like less of a mythical

creature as what we always try to perceive Tiger Woods as. I think he's done a great job with all the things that he's gone through to hide himself from looking really, really bad in public when he can. But this is, at this point, Tiger, we can see you on a crutch. It's fine. You know what I mean? Like, show up to the, to the Ryder Cup. We're going to be at the Ryder Cup.

I know. I'm saying, like, the country is allowed to see you now in a crutch. You don't have to hide that from us. We know that you're on crutches. So show up, like, be a part of the team. You're allowed to be hurt and still be there. You don't have to hide. What would be the reason?

reasoning for him to not show up. Right. I always thought it would be like to not show him hurt or like not, you know what I mean? Like he doesn't want to be seen as a guy that's down bad. But at this point, like you're not down bad. You're just recovering. Let's go. Like be there.

Limp around. He cares for this shit too. He lives for this. Remember we saw him of the President's Cup, Trent, 2017? He was out there. He was on comms. And then he loved being on comms in 2019. Like he fucking loves this shit.

Tell me this guy's not going to be in a golf cart whipping around whistling straights. I just, I'm emotionally preparing myself for the Rider Cup just like how awesome that's going to be and all the adrenaline that's going to be flowing through our bodies as we watch it and I hadn't even thought about the prospect

of seeing Tiger Woods at that event. Tiger Woods is going to be there. I'm telling you I have a feeling in my gut that this guy can't possibly miss the Rider Cup. That like then if you're Bryson and Brooks like you just put everything aside. Yep. Put everything aside. If Tiger Woods is going to get out there on crutches to watch the team,

you guys can shut the fuck up for fucking one round of golf and steer this thing in the right direction. Tiger Woods is USA golf. It's who it is, you know? Yes. That's what it is. I got a statement regarding if Tiger Woods shows up. It's going to affect my fandom.

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You're really going to root for the European team? Absolutely, because I've lost faith in the fact that our team doesn't want to win. That's going to be really tough, man. These colors don't run, baby. That's going to be really good team. I can't root for a team that doesn't want to win. That's what the leadership will be telling me that they don't want to win. They just want to run the same formula out there that has not worked in the last two decades.

They just want to please the old boys. They just want to, as captain, be able to be like, well, I picked the guys who have the most points. What else can we do that? They need to play better. They don't want to go do what Herb Brooke said, which where his answer was when there's like, oh, you left a lot of the best players off here. I don't want the best players. I want the right ones.

That's what Brooks, or that's what her Brooks said. That's what I need the U.S. leadership to finally say. That's why you've had guys like Jamie Donaldson has hit a winning Ryder Cup shot in the last 10 years. And we've got all these fucking pre-Madadas that have been playing for 20 years that can't win, that are fighting against each other, that are chirping against each other, they're going to the New York Times, bitching about this and that, instead of just showing up being absolute savages in matchplay and wanting to win for their

country we get all this other bullshit and if they continue to go down that that route frankie i have no choice but to root for the europe okay that's all fine and great my my question to you is if they if they win you're going to be like mad i'll be rooting for the european team so if the team that i'm rooting for doesn't win of course but they won't win if they do what if they what if they just win and we're at falking whistling straits and the united states won the rider Cup because Bryson D. Chambeau drain. My point is you can't win if you refuse to open your mind to picking the right kind of player. You realize that you've now, you've made your bed, though, if they do win and Kisner is not on the team and Tiger Woods does not show up, you're not allowed to root for

the United States. You will have to be upset when they win and we're all partying with the top of champions. What I'm saying is that I will not support a team that clearly is not showing initiative towards building a winning formula. Here's what I want you to know. If Team USA A wins and a member of that team says, hey, boys, you want to jump in this team room and party with us? I want to say the two names you put on that list are Frankie Borelli and Trent Ryan. If you go in that room, I quit the podcast immediately because you have to see it all the way through.

You have to see it all the way through. You have to go. I'm going to see it all the way through. I'm going to see it all the way through. You have to go with the losers. If there are European players invited to that locker room, then I will be in that party. Why not? I'm rooting for the European team.

If they can go in there, I can go with it. You are anti-American. If Kevin Kisner and Tiger Woods are not a part of the Ryder Cup. I'm rooting for the European team because I am taking a stand against a losing formula. And myself as an American that loves rooting for the American team, I am making a stand that I've had enough. I will not continue to stand for this format, this system that puts losers out there over and over again. It doesn't want to look inward and pick the right kind of guys to win. And what I'm saying to you is true love is loving something despite its flaws.

Despite its flaws, you got to see it through and you have to stand by what you represent and what you are apart. You must know something we don't because I don't think Kisner's going to be on the fucking Ryder Cup team. Like, yeah, you're about to root for Europe. And you're doubling down, dude. What people do not understand, what you're saying right now is like, do you think Kevin Kizzer should be on the team. I think he should, but I don't think he will. And why is that? Just because of, like you said, because of the way that we do things on TV. Which is bullshit. What do you mean the way that we do? It sounds like the way that we do things is proving winners. We lose every time. I'd have, I'd have more respect to it. We lose all the time. I'd have more respect for this if you didn't just give yourself the tiger out. Because that's you realizing what's happening. Big time. That's not true. What I'm saying is if, if Tiger Wood shows up in crutches, I have to root for that.

But why? It's the same system that did not pick Kevin Kistler. He's not a part of that system. No, he won't be a part of the system. Tiger Woods is a part of that system. Tiger Woods is the losing system, right? You know that. The system that you hate.

You hate that system. You hate Tiger Woods' system. I hate the fact that what Steve Stricker and those guys have done is not pick somebody like Kevin Kitzer. Tiger Woods has not been part of this team that's picking right now. But if he shows up, no, but Tiger Woods has been a part of this in America. As it's a 20 years, you hate the system. On crutches, on crutches, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to win.

You've historically. despise Tiger Woods's Ryder Cup system. I've despised the system that has continued to lose. But I do it. But I do it's part of it. Well, Tiger Woods has been part.

Yeah, his record is not good. Okay. Riggs, I'm just saying. Do you think his record is good? No, I don't. I don't. I just, So are you guys okay with just continuing to be like,

yeah, keep doing what you're doing. It's so fun, rooting for a losing fucking team all the time. No, but like I also. So then you want to demand change. I'm trying to demand change. Yeah, but like I watch the islander's fucking thing. I went to,

I went to, I went to 1400 hockey games. They never won a playoffs series. I didn't start rooting for the fucking Rangers until they got a better player. I was wearing the fucking shoes around. Like, hey, I want the system to change.

I want you guys to change the type of players that you pick, right? I still fucking went to sleep with Islander gear on. I didn't fucking, I didn't just like go buy a ranger shirt to be like, the day you guys get a better players the day that I fucking wear the Islander jersey again. Being a fan is being there during the down years. You ain't there.

We've been there during the down years. It sucks. You're leaving. It's still the down years. We're still there. We're still in the down year. Ride it out, baby. Pain is part of pleasure, baby.

But here's what you guys are just admitting and accepting that they're not going to pick kids. The reason I made that entire statement is I'm trying to take a stand and say, look, I as a fan, I'm sick of this fucking team doing the same thing over and over again and losing. And I'm going to take a stand and say, you need to pick this player that will win Ryder Cup matches. And if you don't, we're fucking out of here. This is bullshit. And then you hedged. If Tiger Wood shows up on crutches after almost dying in an accident, Trent, that changes everything.

Now, why don't you say off? If the sun comes up that morning, I'm also, by the way, I'm also still going to root for the American team. Yeah, okay. The sun is clearly as common as Tiger Woods coming out there with crutches after almost dying in an accident and taking the baton and leading this U.S. That's quite different. I respect it. the sun coming up? I respected the Kisner stance.

I don't respect what you just did with the Tiger Woods thing because of you, because we all now know what you're actually thinking. That if Tiger Woods, like we just painted something that you yourself said like that's not going to happen. So I'm not like hedging. It's not like a guarantee that Tiger's going to come out. I'm saying if this unbelievable thing that you just thought wouldn't happen, happens,

I don't think I'm going to have a choice. It's Tiger Woods almost after almost dying. How many more else do you want? I listen. How many more are you just, no, now you're trying to muddy the entire thing where I just, we just described a spectacular occurrence that you don't even think is going to happen.

I will say I was in the minority. You guys seem to think it's going to happen. It is two to one. It is spectacular. I do want to say that I agree with Trent that I, I, too, stand by the idea of you wanting to create change. I think that's admirable.

I think it's psychotic that you will not root for the United States because they are not doing things the way that you wanted to do because that's that's the opposite of fandom even though your intentions. Well, they just keep committing to losing. Your intentions are extremely, of an extreme fan. You have intentions of an extremely good fan. You want your team to do anything that they can do to win. You just can't jump ship when they don't listen to you or else.

Every fan of every team would always, it'd be willy-nilly. You'd be part of those Yankee Red Sock fucking knitted sweaters that kids get for fucking Christmas. It's an absolute joke. You can't be on both teams. because one team's not doing what you want. And what I'm saying here is you've made your bed, you have to sleep in it. You can't get in out with the Tiger Woods, with the Tiger Woods fucking little thing that you're throwing in there.

You can't. You have to, if Kevin Kisner is not on the Ryder Cup team, Riggs is rooting for Europe. I almost think you guys don't want Kevin Kisner to be on the Ryder Cup team. That's absolutely not what it is. I'm just a realist. I mean, we all just said last show that his performance in the last playoff or in the playoffs in general have definitely hindered his chances at making the rider cup team there's a there's more of a chance of him not making it than there is a chance of him making it regardless of what i want or not

historically the way that they've done it exactly which is why i'm trying to make a stand for change i don't like they just keep throwing like points it's not like kids is 50th in points there's 12 guys in the team and he's 18th and like rider cup points and the rider cup points don't even fucking matter it's but you don't go out and play for two years the rider cup and and see who accumulates the most points over two years. It's who steps up in a fucking matchplay environment and the first tee, who makes puts and who wins matches. And Kevin Kisner has historically done that.

So that drives me crazy. I wonder who you'd take out to put Kisnizzen. That, that fiery Kisner argument made a lot more sense to me 25 minutes ago before you said, oh, actually, I'll also be rooting for Team America. Who would you take out of the fire out of that point? Who would you take out for Kevin Kisner? I would love to know if you wanted to go your way. Well, let's look at this list right now.

I know, that's what I'm saying. Let's look at this list, Frankie. Because there's some good fucking golfers in there, you know? I mean, we're not talking about a bunch of slubs. I know. It's the herd brooks. It's her brooks. It's not like we don't want the best golfers.

Let the guys that are going to win matches. Tell me who you're taking out. Through thick and thin, baby. Through thick and thin. God, because I can't find one. I mean, out of Harris, English, Patrick Reed, Daniel Berger, I think like I could find a spot in those three for Kevin Kisner, who is 16, 5, and 1.

in his career match play. I'll say that when I said I couldn't find one, I was only through eight. It gets easier there at the end. 10 through 12 is a joke. Yeah, we can definitely find a lot for kids. But it's not. And you're to support your point.

Like then you have WebSims, you have Scotty Sheffler, you have Jason Cochrecks, Sam Burns, Billy Horshiel, and 18th is Kevin Kisner. So like in those last three, right, because you're going,

let's just list them all right now. Callmore, Kala, Locked, DJ locked, Bryson locked, locked, Brooks, Locke, JT. Locked, Cantlay. Those are our top six.

Then you go Tony Fienow, Lock, Zander Shoffley, lock, Jordan Speeth, lock. So now you've got nine out of the 12th. A lot of people thought maybe Phil Mickelson would be picked, but him being assistant captain, I think, makes it very unlikely. He did win a major, but that's like his only top 10 in the last fucking two years. So it's really between like Harris English, who has played Austin Golf this year.

I think there's a very good chance they pick Harris English. Patrick Reed is Captain America, but he just got off a bed and literally can't get on a plane because they think his lungs will collapse. So I don't know that, I don't know that Patrick Reed could be picked. Daniel Berger, I think, is a pretty good choice. I think a lot of people consider him pretty fiery. But my think is like, if you're going to argue that Daniel Berger should be on it, like all of a sudden that, like, I'm going to argue Kevin Gisner should be on it.

Like, he's got a lot of those same. Scotty Schaeffler is a good putter. Like, I think Scotty Schaeffler would be awesome on there. I think of that list, I would probably of those last, three spots, I would go Kevin Kisner, Scotty Sheffler, and then I'd be somewhere like Harris English, maybe, because he's had a phenomenal

year, and he's played really well the last six months. I think that's doing well, and I don't think you're making some crazy outlandish move picking Kevin Kisner, who everyone's like, well, he really didn't play well like the last couple weeks. Colmore Cowan didn't play well like the last couple weeks. I get that he's automatically qualified, but it's

like, are you going to not start him in matches now because he didn't win two tournaments in a row? Guess what? Like 15 days ago, Kevin Kisner won a PGA tour event. So it's not like he's got the worst form in the world. So yeah, I think when you get to those bottom three, there's ample room for you to throw someone like Kevin Kisner on there, and there's endless justifications.

And the only arguments I ever hear back are like, well, he doesn't have like the same amount of rider cut points. Or they do the whole like whistling straights doesn't fit short hitters, where if you go to the last two major championships there, like the shorter hitters have finished inside the top 10 a plenty. Like, yes, long hitters have done well there too. Distance is always an advantage. But it has a bit impossible for people that don't hit the ball a mile to contend at whistling

straights. In fact, many of them have over the last two majors. I like Archie. I like it. I like getting Kevin Kisner in there. I want Kevin Kisner in there. I actually think Kevin Kisner probably belongs in there over a Patrick Reed, a Daniel Berger, a Harris English, for sure.

I mean, Kevin Kisner is a match play machine. He just knows how to win. He is a team guy. The morale is. in the locker room. He's a locker room guy. That stuff is, you can't quantify that with points.

You're not able to. I mean, that's why you look at hockey rosters. Some guys get more money, even though they've, Matt Martin, like you look at his contract. Why is a guy like that

making that much money on the New York Islanders? Because the stuff that he does can't be thrown onto a stat sheet. He is the number one locker room guy. His foundation's amazing. What he does for Long Island is amazing. He would die for his teammates. That is why.

you need guys like that in a team aspect. So I agree with you. What I'm saying is, and I want that known, that I want Kevin Kisner on this team. Me too. If he's not on the team, I will still be rooting

for the United States of America to beat the Europeans. It's as simple as that. I go to bed knowing sleeping well that I know who I'm going to root for in this upcoming America. You know? And what I just say,

you guys are just complacent. I get that. Like, oh, I'm just going to sleep. Everything's going to be happy. And I'm just going to accept this bullshit losing for the last 22 years. even though we are the higher ranked team by far. You should have to move every single year.

And instead you guys are just complacent. You just like accept it. And we all just made these arguments. It's very clear. Like we should have Kevin Kizzer of the team. And I'm the one that took a stand for my guy Kiz and said, I am so passionate about this. People know how much I love the U.S.

Rider Cup team. I'm so sick of losing that I'm going to draw as much attention as possible to the fact that Kevin Kizzer should be on this team that I will declare, I'll root for the other fucking team. If Kevin Kisner is not chosen. You can't. Yeah, of course I stand by that. You can't do that.

Like Frank the Tank is wearing feeble shirts for the Mets. He's the most negative anti-Mets fan of all times, screaming his fucking head off everything. He wants the team to change. But he still shows up the next day in a Mets shirt. He's still a Mets fan. He doesn't walk around and fill it. He doesn't put ultimatums down that if the Mets don't fire their coach and get rid of all the feeble offensive players. And he hasn't been able to inflict change.

He hasn't been able to flick change because he's not going far enough. I'm willing to go that far. I'm willing to say it. I'll root for the fucking Europeans if we don't get Kevin. I'm trying to draw as much attention as possible to the fact that we need Kevin Kistner because I don't want to be sitting there during the thing being like, I got my USA thing on. I did all I could.

No, I'm going to try to inflict it now before they make the picks. Unless Tigerwood shows up. That might change things. I just think you showed your hand a little bit there. I'm with the rah-rah. Kisner on. I'm in.

Kisner off. I'm out. but then when you're like, what if you're like, I'm rooting for America. Come on. That's showing your cards. That's shown your cards.

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And whether you're not drunk and the person hits you that's drunk, it's just scary out there, man. It could come at any moment. So just if everyone just stopped doing it, the world would be a better place. 100% agree. the last point I'm going to make about the kids pick which again I think we're all the same pick that we want kids to be on the same podcast where you just get that last point we can't give it up we do have we do have to get to the FedEx thing too we've gotten a couple good responses to explain to old Rigsie boy in a little better sense than we did last time you guys are such idiots the last thing is that Kevin Kisner in 2019 was voted the number one guy on PJ door that people like to get paired up with so I think on a team with horrific chemistry. You probably want to have a guy that's well like to be.

It's a no brainer. But if they don't listen to us, I'm not going to throw my, I'm not going to start burning my jersey. All right. These colors don't run. Mm-hmm. One of the explanations that maybe will allow you to understand this a little bit better about the FedEx Point System and why and why.

You want me to the voice? No. And why Scotty Shep. Patrick Cantlay is starting. with a lead would be similar to a pole position, which I thought was a really good example, right? F1 guys. F1 guys.

You're a big F1 guy now, right? Those guys, Lewis Hamilton will go out there. He'll be the fastest guy on the track. They award him. You can't give him the win and you can't let him, and because he's the fastest and because he was the best, you can't have him start in the middle of the pack. Everyone can't go left to right.

Everyone starts on the starting line. he gets the advantage of starting first because he was the best the day before. Does that make it is that as is that a good comparison as to what the FedEx does? To horrible analogy. Why? Damn you people. Because every week they start over. Every week they start fresh.

Damn you people. Damn you people. This is golf, not a rock concert. Go ahead, Riggs. That's good. That's good. Yeah. What you mean?

Terrible analogy because every week they step start fresh. It's not who's leading in the points for the year gets to just. have poll position. Every single week they come in. On Saturday, they do qualifying. Whoever is the fastest on Saturday at that independent event gets pole position on Sunday. It's not based on who has had the best year so far just gets to start in first. It's based on every single player comes in fresh. They start from scratch. Whoever's fastest in the round on Saturday has pole position on Sunday. Yeah, but I think we get lost. The northern, you're trying to compare golf. That's a bad example. Can we agree that was a bad example? Can we agree? That was a bad example. To the

Boy, Strait. Do the bad example, Boy, BNW is the speed test before the, is the pole run. It's its own race. It's its own Grand Prix.

But you're acting like, um, each, each round that these guys play in doesn't affect a final number. Like, like they are moving towards something. You're going to agree that was a bad example? No,

I'm going to say that. Patrick Cantley finish on your face. Can you be honest for me one time? You don't, you don't restart. Patrick Cantley is, is moving up the ranks as each fucking week goes by.

Am I taking crazy pills? Right. I think you're still... You don't start at zero each week. Patrick Kelly's moving up. We originally started this discussion about like... How could we... How could we...

You base it out a way to compare this to a thing that is... We don't have a comparison for it because it's so odd. So you do have to think about it in a different way. We talked about this in the last podcast about like the Stanley Cup playoffs, how Riggs, you were still viewing it as like an Easter conference finals and a finals. And now you're viewing... Which somebody said they... get home ice advantage and home field advantage when they do win that. It's not just the white,

the slate is white clean. It's not. Riggs was wrong about that. But with the F1 comparison, you're also trying to look at it like you're trying to see it as apples to apples when we said at the beginning of the argument that there is nothing because it's such a strange system. So now where you look at F1, the way you would have to look at it for it to make sense with this FedEx Cup playoff is looking at it like it is a qualifying weekend, not every single race every single week. that's the difference. It's like a semantic argument. Yeah.

But why don't they do that throughout the whole playoffs? How come they only do it for one event? Wait, what do you mean? Like, if all of the playoffs are, it's like the playoff, the regular season ends and the playoffs begin, and there's three playoff events. You don't start with like a certain lead

at every single one of those. But they do not people. They only choose to do it arbitrarily at the last one. They knock people down, though. There's like different qualifications for each. I just think we have to look at the three events says one thing. Right.

And then it goes into the finals. Yeah. That's how I do it. You have to think of like F1 as the qualifying race the day before is literally the whole season up to East Lake is basically what that is. Right. And then Eastlake is the actual race day where the handicapping takes place, where there are a second in front of, you know, leaders one second in front of a second, two seconds in front

a third and so on. And so you just have to expand out the qualifying race day to be the whole FedEx. everything leading up. Right, which like isn't the case. That's like that's like that's, but that's not like, right. It's a little different. But to trans point, that's like the semantic. It's just trying to kind of establish trying to fit this into something that does not have a

comparison. That was the only explanation I found that were you actually someone the day before that that performed or or did better than the other guys was able to have an advantage by literally being in front of the guys prior that didn't perform as well. It's not perfect. It's not a perfect example. but it's the only one that was like, all right, this guy's in front. And the other guys are in the same race starting behind them.

That's right. My answer is simply, I think that someone's starting $10,00 a golf tournament, is stupid and it's not the way that I would do it. You guys are saying this is the way you would do it. No, no, we're saying it's also stupid. I think I'm the only person that says, I like the way. I don't know another way. We're trying to make it make sense.

It's not necessarily supporting it. How dumb would it be if they just, it was a just, you, You kept your score from the beginning to the end. Like Patrick Cantley was minus fucking 87. Bro, that would be awesome. That actually would be kind of awesome. I would dig that a lot. I think that'd be great.

Really? Right. But they would never do it because they love the drama each week of like having a lot. Yeah. He's not a lock to win each week. Like, you know, perform each week. So like, let's say he goes like minus, it goes 18 under the first week. And then the next week he goes two over because he played horrible.

Like guys are going to be in it. But yeah, you won't have individual. winners, I guess. Or you could. You still could. You'd be back to the two winners thing. You'd have a winner of the actual tournament and then you'd have a leader after two. That's like lost. That's like lost. We have to go back to the island. If they want to go back to two winners system, instead of the points, they should do that. You know, you get an individual winner, but you also have a guy who has an overall score that's the best.

That's just what they used to do. Yeah, but they don't know what they feel like? This, this, feels like court cutters being like, what if we just took all the streaming services and we put them all together in one cable box? And that's how we watch TV. It's like, now we're going backwards. They should have just done to par. You know what I mean? Like the points always threw me off. It always should have been like, like, I like the idea of someone being like winning the tour championship, winning the FedEx Cup and being 87 under par because he fucking dominated four weeks in a row. That it would be more. It's more digestible than like a point of stuff. Much more digestible.

Digestible. Um, it was the same time there. Um, yeah, I, I just, I don't know. It just feels bizarre to me that somebody starts a golf tournament 10 under par. I don't, it's just not the way that I would do it. I, I understand that there's no, apparently there's just no great answer. I was a big fan of when they had the two things. I didn't think it was that crazy to just comprehend that there's two simultaneous like events going on that you could win a tournament.

You could also be crown the, the yearly. winner i didn't think that was that wild with the fucking golf club and the trophy and all the shit i thought it was kind of funny i thought you got really awkward pictures every time of like the two things going on which i enjoyed um but it is what it is i don't it's not like ruining my day it is what it is patrick kettley is 10 under par and it is wednesday at uh you know whatever four p m still think john rome wins the whole thing anyway so it doesn't matter think so was he four back he'll that's He'll be, he'll be even with Patrick Cantlay within, he'll be all square after nine holes.

If he's calmed down since Northern Trust, which isn't a guarantee. He's the best golfer on the planet. Yeah, he is. He really is. It's an interesting dynamic to think about starting 10 under a part. Like, I bet it's not easy to start 10 under part. No. The guy who's 8 under par makes a bird, he's won back.

It's just like it's not. Right. And like, everybody thinks you should win because you started 10 under. It's like, that's not the case at all. You don't have a 10-stroke lead on everyone. No, I know. Which I actually think is kind of dumb the way they do it that way. That is the one like knock that I think I would give it is that no matter what you do

and how many points you're actually in front of the others going into East Lake, you're only going to have a two-stroke advantage on second place. Like if you're dominating the field, you're playing as well as Tiger Woods played in 08, you know, like just crushing the world. you're still only going to have a two-stroke advantage. So, like, that's all predetermined, which is probably... But you are taking a lot of the field out, so it's to the advantage of the guy in first, right?

Yeah, you only have a two-stroke lead on the guy in second, but you're also having, like, you're taking positions five through 30 out of the picture, essentially, because you have a 10-stroke lead on them. So you only have to beat a couple guys, and your advantage then goes up immensely. Kind of, but no, it's like if you have, if you have, say you have 5x more points in second, just an outrageous year, you're still going in the last

tournament. Like the points that you're up don't equate to strokes being up on the field. The strokes up, those slots are all predetermined, which I think doesn't make any sense. You think it should be like a fluid system? A fluid system of like X amount of points equals this amount under par, X amount of points equals this under par to bunch it up and be more fair rather than just be like arbitrary. no, you're like three under because you're in this place. I just like that it almost... If you're going to actually rank it to how they've played,

it should be tied. Like, that should be an equal algorithm. I almost like how it almost guarantees the person in first place to lock up like a top five to me. You know what I mean? I like the fact that... I like that fact that you're able to secure this guy for whatever amount of money because he won the regular season.

He was the best player. on PGA tour that year, racked up the most points, whatever it was. That person shouldn't finish. If they have a really bad week, sure, they should drop all the way down. But if they play the way they're supposed to play, they should finish within the top five or just win because that's just the way they played. If everyone started in the same position and that guy finished in 30th because he played poorly for one week, that would be brutal.

That would be absolutely brutal. It would be like winning your fantasy football league for 17 weeks. And then like for some, you don't get any money back at the end of the year. Like, well, I just dominated the league for 17. weeks and because like you guys came out with this dumb system i get no money back i bet that's never happened to you that happened to me yeah yeah when you didn't give money to the league winner it's like well it's arguably hard it's so much harder to win the league for 17 weeks and it is for three yeah you know what i mean it's impossibly harder to be the best team at a 12 for 17 weeks

then beat one guy three times i would almost i would almost like be more accepting of it at the first playoff of it, they had people start staggered scoring based on their full PGA tour season, and then they just kept cumulative score for three weeks. Hold on. Say that again. So you're saying that it's just their cumulative of whatever they've done for the whole PGA tour year. No. What I'm saying is you do the staggered scoring like they're doing this week, but you start it three weeks ago at the first playoff event based on your entire starting status on like the PGA tour and I don't know what exactly those numbers would be but then you do cumulative scoring for the whole playoffs from that start so someone has like

three weeks to catch somebody else if they play that well and then you have no points it's just based on like score to par so someone teeing it off at Eastlake this week could be like 34 under par and they've just accumulated that to this point I could almost understand that because the playoffs have then become their actual own full consistent thing. But I, like, the only thing I don't like is that they choose the one term, right? Like, they've gone from the PGA tour season, which is like its own thing. And then you've now entered the playoffs, which is like a new thing. I think we all get that.

That's common in every sport that we watch. But then they also, at the end of the playoffs, they do this completely unique thing that they don't do ever. And that's to me, like, where I get the disconnect. it's certainly a crazy thing that they do. I like starting it in week one. Yeah. Yeah, I actually like if we're going to all come together on one jump off point,

I do. I like Riggs's point of like, as soon as the FedEx hits, you start this thing that we're seeing at East Lake where people are predetermined. I want credit for the cumulative score, though. Okay. I think you deserve it.

Thanks. Let's all, I mean, we can all, I wish we could all hug out of this. I would love to see a guy 50% of them. I would love to see a guy 50%. under par. Yeah, it'd be great. It would be great.

That guy just has dominated golf courses for four weeks in a row. And it would make more sense to do it that way. I also think, you know how they put these stats out about, about like Tiger Woods from 1999 to 2005 was like 240 under par in major championships. And then like, it'd be cool if when people teed off at the masters or something, they were like cumulative score to par in the history of like their masters. I think that would be awesome. Not that it actually has anything to do with that event,

like that particular week. Just to show up. They just put that up there. I think that'd be awesome. They should do more of that, just to see what it is. It would help with betting, too, because you'd look at a guy like Tiger, you're like, oh, he just eats up this place.

And you'd see a guy who thinks pretty good, and they're just like eight over par. And like, you know, they're five star or six starts or whatever. I would like that. I'd like, you know, yeah, we're coming together. I guess we are coming together. I guess we could put those numbers together. We just crown our own winner.

You know who you're talking about here? Somebody who listens to the show might be able to put those numbers together. 100%. Oh yeah, do you think it's, yeah, it's got to be someone else is leading aside from Patrick Cantley right now, right? Cumulatively? What do you think? Yeah. Oh, definitely.

Definitely, you think? Not definitely. I back off to definitely. Because it's what they were super under bar last week. Oh, true. Like him and braced. It started in Southwind. How many events was that?

Is it five? How many events? Five vans? Four vans? No, it's three. Liberty National. Liberty National. BMW.

All right. FedEx Imutational is not part of it. Okay. You're going to do this right now? We might have to reconvene next time and we'll talk about. Some what we're going to do is a one of these lunatics will tweet it at us. Yeah. Definitely.

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Thank you very much. I do want to. Pretty goals. So I do want to address something to you guys right now. And this is a safe space. And I know we're talking to hundreds of thousands of people. But I'm just talking about a couple of my boys. Yeah.

And I'm having some trouble on this team recently. And I don't know if this is something that's common when it comes to men's league hockey. But when my personal performance drops, my love for the team aspect also drops, right? Like I was having the time of my life when I was on my 17 game point streak. You know, 17 games played, 17 points. I'm on a three-game skid here. and we've won three games, including a playoff win first of all time. And I'm just not as happy as I was when I was on the point streak.

And I know that sounds selfish. And I know that sounds like a douchebag thing to say, especially in a team sport. I'm being very open and honest about that. I just want you guys to know I want, I have more fun when I score goals. And I mean, I think this is good because you're, you know, I mean, you know yourself. You're a selfish human being. Right. I want you to know that this is a safe space.

Yes, thank you. And you can say whatever you want. I am. And I appreciate you being open with us. Not only does that sound selfish, it is selfish. And I want you all to know that it's not like I'm not giving the team everything that I have. I'm still playing my balls off. And when we win, I'm excited.

It's just I wish I could have a little bit more success out there. The problem is we've gotten too good, all right? The team was a little. little bit, you know, it was a rag-tag group of guys that called the Outcast. And like when I first joined the team, they're like, oh, shit, like, Frankie's actually scoring. Like, I remember looking at the scoring sheet, like, oh, shit, Frankie's the top score on the team. You guys were even like, how bad is this team? How is that possible? We actually weren't bad. We just were playing a little bit different style. I was able to get some garbage goals. Now we have these guys on this team.

And they're unbelievable. I'm going to shout out Nick, Mike, Vinny. Is it Vincent? Fuck. Oh, man, that's going to be tough. These guys score like, these guys score like crazy lurch. They're end-to-end.

I'm a ghost. I'm a passenger out there. Would you rather them not be on the team if it meant that you guys would lose, but you would score more goals? That was the danger question. Really good question. It's a tough question. It's a tough question.

I, no, it's not. We know the answer. I hate the pause. I would rather still in that pause right now. I would rather them on the team and I'd rather be a part of a successful team. I just wish that I was better to be able to play with them. I think that's the real honest answer.

Their skill level is higher than yours. Oh, it's immensely higher. And I'm having less fun playing with better players, which I think people can somewhat understand. Yeah. You know, it's like I've jumped another league up. Like, I'm not ready for it. Like, our team has jumped to another stratosphere. We won like eight to two yesterday.

these guys are setting up one-timers. And, like, I was just out there like, whoa. Are you thinking- They don't look at me anymore. I was a star two weeks ago. Are you thinking about leaving the team? No, never. Okay. Outcast for life.

And I'm happy for them. We have a game tonight, semifinals. We're going to stay in the Cup finals tomorrow. I know we're going to win tonight. The teams are wagging. Did you guys bring on these guys? Like, do you, it feels like you're at the right level of playing, right? Like, you're competitive in this league.

going on a three game points gig, but like you're still a solid player in this league. Do you feel like the three players that you just mentioned that you brought on are almost unfair to the quality of this league? No. Because you're grinding out wins three two, losing two one, and now we're eight two. So that's a different level of play. We've now, we've reached another stratosphere when it comes to skill on the outcast. Like we just have a good team. We have a fantastic team.

And and I think a lot of those. You hate it. No, I don't hate it. It's just, you know, there was, you know, I'd leave, I used to leave the games and I'd call, I'd be like, Papa, I had a point tonight. I, I had an assist and I had a goal. And it was like, I can't wait to get home and, like, shower and, like, tell people about it and text and text my friends. I scored. And now it's like, oh, how'd the game go?

I was like, we fucking won. We won. You know, and they'll listen to this. And I know, I know they'll heal, they'll, they will hear this. I don't want them to think I'm not a team player because I'm going to go out there and I'm going to give everything I got. I want to get better. It's just, you know, it sucks. It sucks that I can't find the back of the net.

I'm on a cold streak, you know. I don't even touch the puck anymore. You know, I don't, I'm a ghost out there. I think I under my breath last night just said, uh, I, we scored a goal. And I went back to the bench and I just under my breath. I said, I'm a passenger out of it. It's selfish, man. But, you know, I'm still happy.

I give the guys knucks. I'm like excited after the game. Like, wow, what a win, boys. I'm not going to let them. But it's all a lie. It's not a lie. I need to be better. It's more of me really admitting that I'm not good, which is hard because I thought I was getting better.

It's, you know, it's equatable, I guess, to when you're in a golf match and you play two on two with your buddies and you win the match, which we've all been there many times. but you were a complete non-factor. Like every hole, you're just fistp up in your guy and you're like reading putts for them and you're like, yeah, man, like I think it's a little bit outside, right? And it's great that you won, but you don't feel any sense of accomplishment.

You don't, you're not proud of yourself. Like you didn't earn that drink afterwards. You're sitting there like, man, I didn't do fucking anything. You're laughing at it. Bro, you're saying, I'm a passenger out there. Yeah, it's a good line. It's so funny.

And you genuinely. saying that under your breath as they're celebrating a goal making a playoff run you're just over there stewing I'm a passenger out here just yeah I agree rigs it's exactly that I mean I've been in that boat with with Lurch where it's just like I'm sorry like you get back in the cart it's like I'm sorry man I'm just not here today I don't know you know I've done the same with you yeah it sucks however it's just different in the team aspect like I should be happier I should be happy I should be happy to just like dump the puck out of the defensive zone and move it and give it to Mike and Andrew and Nick and these guys that are really good at hockey and I just watch

him and like I watch our defense and Andrew and Mike and fucking Nick I watch our team I watch our defense and they're happy man they're just playing defense they're jacked up when they score like when we score they're on defense like yeah tapping their sticks and I'm just sitting there like motherfucker I didn't touch the fucking fucking two hours Frankie's over there like gets there early and is just dulling the skates of the other guys on his team I want to be better I don't I don't want my team to come down to my level, I need to get better. It's a big wake-up call, all right? I got cocky.

I was walking around the rank being like point per game, and everyone's like, well, really, in Enzley, you should be like four points over the games played, like, if you're any decent in this league. It's fucking roller hockey. Like, you should have five goals a game. So I'm starting to see that now. So it's just, you know, I just thought this would be a safe space to be able to explain what I'm going through in my life.

It's something that, you know, I have a game tonight. And, you know, I'm excited for it. but I just hope I can contribute, you know? We hope that for you. I'll let you know how it goes. Big time. It really makes you wonder, like, how many times in these matches that we've done

where Lurch has played well in character team, have you been like, you know, I would happily lose this match if it meant me, Frankie Braley, shot like 77 today. Oh, and, you know, I think a lot of people would be able to admit that, you know? What?

I think a lot of people would be able to admit that when you're playing in a golf match that you won. that you want to play well. Would you really, but would you sacrifice the win? I hate the pause is awful. As a team guy, the pause is awful.

No, because I'm trying to think, like, I don't want to lose these hockey games I'm playing. I'm happy that we're winning them. Like, I'm genuinely happy. I would probably still take the win in golf, but I'd get in the car and be, like, disgusted with myself. Sure, I'd be happy we want it, but I wouldn't be, I'm not waiting home,

shooting 120 men lurched out of 68 and won the match for us i'm not like yay but i wouldn't switch it question what if like it was like you had a big moment like tonight's hockey game two two they score with like six minutes left to go three two you bury one late sick goal kind of like catch it off the inside of your skate just then just roof one we go three three with like ten seconds to go but then you lose in overtime yeah i'm fine For that moment, like, if I have that moment of everyone being like, Frank, right, you know, I'm just like, let's go. I'll be riding that high for two weeks. Two weeks.

I would literally be like that asshole in the locker and being like, boys, you really almost had that one, like a big smile on my face. Always next year. This is just who you are and I appreciate you admitting it to such a large audience. 100%. I don't want my team to think that I'm not a team player because I am, you know? It's tough to a point. To a point. See, it's more just like.

I'm just the honest player. Everyone has this feeling. You want personal success. It's not like you don't want the team to win. I'm just not as happy as I. When we were winning, I'm not as happy as I was when we were winning when I was scoring. All right?

Fair. It's fair. You think a guy who's on an 0 for 100 bad, like, streak in baseball is like that jacked up after they, like, win just a regular, just a game, you know? He's just like, fuck. Maybe you just need a base. Maybe you need a base. Maybe you need a coach to put you in to do a job.

You know what I mean? Maybe. I need a job. you're a grinder, Frankie. Maybe you're a grinder. You know what I mean? I need somebody to give me an add-a-boy for the grinder. That's a problem.

It's men's league rear hockey. No one's given out-of-boys when I'm in the corner and I get the puck to the blue line and then they set up a nice play. No one's giving me an ad-a-boy. They're just giving the out of the guys who played fucking college hockey and they're going in and out and they're going in to end. I'm not getting any fucking fist bumps. That's the problem. You know what I mean? Mike's getting all of them.

God. And I don't remember their name. I think I one point I'm like, I think I got to buy Mike some dinner to get me a puck out here. You know? Somebody give me an apple. Starving. I'm starving out there. That's the luck tonight.

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So how do you come that down? Well, I think because I was screaming at you, maybe it was so high. That's definitely what it was. Dude, during the Islanders playoff game at one point, it was a stagnant. Like the way I was just sitting watching the game first period is 167. Oh. Just sitting there. And that's another thing that is like beneficial where you can, you can, you can,

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You can do the math for $3.6 billion. What? You said you get the math. just want to be clear that you can figure out of the way that makes sense. We can't do any math. No, I can't. I'm saying, but I understand why the number is so big.

What was your best subject in school? Got to be English, right? Yeah, probably language arts, English. Yeah. I'm bad at science. I'm okay at basic math. But like once we start getting the levels where calculus and all that type of stuff, it's like I can't.

I just can't, yeah, all that made up magic stuff. I can't do that. I would say mine was history because I got so. into it at the time. You still like history. Yeah. I like history a lot, but it's not like I could go answer all the, you know what I mean,

those tests. Like I retained all of it, but in the, I was good in history class because I loved the actual content of history. Right. That's actually, I feel the same way about like English. Like I really liked reading and writing and blogging and all that stuff that it ends up being. I heard that.

What it ends up being. But then like the things that I don't care about or I'm not passionate about, like science. Oh, like that type, like where they're trying to shove it down your throat and learn it type of science. Like now I'm interested in science. I didn't care about photosynthesis. I didn't care about, I don't know, all the, anything that was green I didn't really care about. You know, I felt like there was a big period of time in science where everything was green. You were looking at cells and you were learning about mitochondria's and all this bullshit.

And I just didn't like any of that. Yeah. When we started talking about space, as you guys probably can figure out, that's where they really grabbed me. where it's like, hey, like, this is a fucking scary place we're living in. And I was like, holy shit, Mr. T. Let me know about this. Right. On a floating rock.

You also find that when something isn't like thrust upon you or like, you're not forced to learn something and you gravitate to the things that are interesting to you, you're clearly interested in space. So you want to learn about that part of it, not photosynthesis. History also really grabbed me because you were always able to learn something from like a good movie. Like they'd show you like a good movie that was like a well-known movie in that. a history class where you're like oh yeah like this is a hollywood movie that like has like good actors in and i'm able to watch it um like you could watch like i don't know like lincoln or something and like

that is a history lesson in that you're learning things about your country you're learning things about the historical ways that that things happen and you're also getting entertained i used to love that shit yeah um other subjects not so much you couldn't you couldn't really put a picture to i'm a very visual person so if i'm able to do that um like see it i'll learn better so How'd you feel about math, Frankie? I hated math. Fucking hated math. Had a math tutor.

It was a nightmare. Languages for me were brutal. Like French, dude, who... That was a couple go-rounds of French class. Boy, I had a teacher that just did not like me, Spanish teacher. Miss Gordine. Senora Gordine. Holy smokes.

I would... I feel like you could be a little bit of a problem. She... Definitely. Yeah. No. I wish I had applied myself. more in the Spanish classes that I took.

Like, I wish I had that skill now. Dude, in college, we had to do. I wish I knew Spanish. Me too. I was listening to Joe Rogan. You guys ever hear of him, podcaster? No. He had that,

Lex Friedman on. That's why I don't eat breakfast anymore. That's why I don't eat breakfast anymore. You still on that train? Yeah, I don't need breakfast. But are you still doing the one meal a day? Or have you given that up? Well, my main thing was I started by being extreme where I pretty much only ate one meal

a day. And then I kind of transferred to, intermittent fasting. But it is 50 right now, and I haven't eaten yet today. All right. That makes sense. I want to say that he had this guy, Lex Friedman on. Yeah.

Very smart individual. He said something to me that really blew my mind, where he was basically talking about languages and saying that the English language is so simple in the fact that that we only have certain amount of words to express our feelings, where a language like Russian has like all these different ways to express certain words and feelings where it's just it's like more of like if you're in love or if you're like trying to express love there's more words and feelings and descriptions about it that make it that make it just a better experience. Right. To me it was nuts that like there are other languages that they can open up your brain about how someone's feeling more. And we can't get that because we're we're just singular language people.

Right. The way we look at it words and languages, like it's one to one. So we would think that if... If I say a word in English... Oh, no, no, I'm with you. I was just like deep into it being like how you express that and like what that does to change. No, I was actually... You had me in a trance, Frank here. It is.

It's why they say like a lot of great writers are Russian or like a lot of great poets are Russian or like any different language because they can express it in a better and different. way. So when their stuff gets translated to English, they're just furious because it sucks. Totally. Probably doesn't have the same effect. Right. Just terrible.

It's just like, oh, you ruin my eyes. We just don't have the words for it. Yeah. But that's just like, aren't there just words or like, aren't there, aren't the words the words? Like, that's just in a different language. Like, they're coming up with different ways. More words.

I don't know. I don't know how, like, I don't know. No, it's tough to wrap my brain around it. Coming from the English language, that that's the only language that we know. Like, if I say happy, they're basically saying they have different forms of saying the word happy that would equate to exactly what type of happiness they have, right? I believe so. And there's more. I think that's right.

But we're not. I mean, I don't know Russian, so it's tough. But I think that's the idea. Yeah. It's a more beautiful way of explaining it. And I can actually understand where you're at in a normal conversation as opposed to us as Americans just being like, I'm happy. Yeah. Okay.

Right. It is a little mind-blowing when you think about it, though. Fuck, man. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Anybody got anything else? Real quick, I know I've been talking a lot at the end of this podcast.

I have to get this one off my chest. And, you know, I don't know. Maybe you guys have something similar in your lives. I used to go to this place called PETA lovers. And this was, if you found Frankie Burrelli on Long Island before, Barstool, you either went to Borrellis or he went to Piedel lovers because I'd be sitting there eating one of two things. It was right by my house and I fucking love this place. They had this Panini there and it was where I've got my love for pininis. It was a grilled chicken

pinini. Whatever, I'm not going to get into the crazy dirty details. I used to get a pinini and then I used to get a grilled chicken Caesar wrap from there. And when I talk to you guys about grilled chicken Caesar wraps. We all eat grilled chicken Caesar wraps, right? From time to time. I know Riggs is a big grilled chicken Caesar rap guy. Dory wish. It's one of my favorite lunch chops when I you see lunch. Unfortunately, sometimes it's these creamy white Caesar dressing wraps and like it gets very moist and mushy. And it's just like it's the Caesar dressing that's meant for an ice cold salad at a restaurant. It's not meant for your like your wrap that you want to like really bite into and like get a nice taste out of. Do you guys agree with me sometimes? It's just a little bit too

creamy and messy and nasty. Anyway, I go to Piedel Lovers 10 years ago. I find this wrap. It's a Vineigarette-based Caesar. It's got a little bit more bite. It's not as creamy. They mix it in with a little parmesan cheese. I fell in love with this thing, right? It's the only Caesar wrap that tasted like this that I could find on the planet. What happens?

They go out of business. They're gone. This is like five years ago. I was distraught. I used to go here three, four times a week. This is my only thing I would eat aside from Borrelia's with pita lovers, chicken Caesar wraps. They go out of business.

Five years ago, six years ago it goes by, however long I've been working. in here. The other night, I'm ordering Greek. I find this new Greek place. And it's called Greek Alicious. Right? I go order on Uber Eats. And I'm at my parents' house. I'm sitting there at the dinner table and I'm eating. And my dad goes, what is that? I said, oh, it's simply Greek Alicious, this new spot that opened up in Wanta. He goes, you know who opened that place? I said, who opened that place? Dad? He goes, the people that used to own Pita lovers. And I said, now, now shut the fuck up. Yeah. I said, I'm going to open up this menu right now, dad. And if the fucking grilled chicken Caesar wrap is on this goddamn menu at Greek Delicious.

I'm going to fucking pass out. What happens? The grilled chicken Caesar wrap is on that menu. So that night, so that night goes by. I eat my fucking, my grilled chicken kebabs, whatever I was having. The next day, you better goddamn believe all day I was waiting to put in that order for a grilled chicken Caesar wrap. And what happens at 7 o'clock at night? I opened this thing up and it's the same rap, baby.

I'm damn years. It's the same Caesar dressing. It's even better than it used to be. Maybe because I've been waiting for it for so long. They cut it on an angle. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Oh my God, it's the same thing. I'm looking around the, I'm like, ma, it's got the bite and they're clapping, they're cheering.

We almost cried last night. It has the bite. It has the fucking pizzazz. It's not your, it's not your average, creamy-ass fucking Caesar dressing. By the way, history lesson. Caesar dressing? not Italian. It's actually an Italian that went to Mexico,

and Mexicans actually have it as their delicacy. They claim it as their own. It's actually a Mexican delicacy, she's addressing. Yeah, it's a little Frankie fact there. But it was an Italian that did it in Mexico. Anyway, just wanted to say that, something that I've been dealing with in my life.

It was a big moment last night, and I'll be going to Greek Alicious to get their grilled chicken Caesar wrap for as long as I live until, you know, until Piedel lovers and more. it moves to another place. But yeah, I'm very excited, as you guys can probably tell. We're happy for you.

You know what I mean, though, when you find something like that? Yeah. And it comes, oh, my God. And rarely does it come back? Yes. Very rarely. It almost never comes back. You're right.

There's got to be places in Cedar Rapids that, like, you used to, you know, go to and they're no longer around. Last time I was there, I talked about it on the show. I went back for a family reunion. My favorite Chinese food place in the world pays closed. And it's still closed. And I do not think it's coming. back in it, I legitimately almost cried the last time we left.

Now tell me if you found out, if you were eating some regular place and someone says, you know the guys from Pays actually opened up this new Chinese place down the road? What would you think about that? I would legitimately tear up. Exactly. Because they have the best Chinese food that I can't find, I couldn't find anywhere else in Cedar Rapids. I can't find anywhere in New York City. And I'll never find it. And now it's just gone. It's an empty cement building that used to serve the greatest Chinese food in the world. And I hope that my story has the same ending that yours did. I hope so too, man. I really do.

Dude, there's a restaurant, a takeout place in South Boston called AKs, South Boston, that we used to order from all the time, like our first three or four years out of school. Everybody's, like, young. We still played video games after work all the time. We'd fucking do, like, one or two nights a week where somebody'd pick up a 30 rack of beer, and then we'd order AKs, and we would just play, like, HAL or NHL for, like, five hours before we went to sleep after work. And they had a chicken broccoli alfredo.

that I would order all the time and they would give you two little like slivers of of crispy like garlic bread that you dipped in the alfredo sauce at the end and it was fucking awesome and I they didn't go out of business I just moved away from there and I just looked them up to make sure they exist because someday when I'm back in south Boston man or Boston in general I will drive my ass across town and I will go to A.K. South Boston to get that dish because there's nothing like that that meal that you know just they hit every time and it was I would think about it at work all day and I'd be like and I just be like man I cannot wait to be having an Xbox 360 controller in my hand of beer and fucking chicken broccoli Alfredo from a just

brings you back if there's some places that like they just I don't know what it is like this this is a grilled chicken Caesar wrap it's nothing I mean you can pick these up at the airport on your way on a flight they're pre-packaged sometimes like It's not a five-star meal, but for some reason it hooked me. The way they did it, it's different. And it just tasted something where it was like a drug. It literally was like my like meth. Like I couldn't like I was addicted to it.

I couldn't fucking stop. I was like this, this dressing, where do you find it? And they would never tell me. You never tell me. What that is, what that story is, is it's hope for everybody out there who has the meal like that you're talking about like rigs is talking about like I'm talking about. It can come back. and you search for it on the way. I've gotten so many grilled chicken Caesar wraps

and you're like, it's not pito lovers. And that was happened for the last six years. And last night I had it again, man. Tears were rolling down my cheek. Also another thing that I cried at, I watched the movie Coda on Apple TV. I want to watch that. And I cried like a fucking baby,

like a baby that just was getting his teeth ripped out. I watched the trailer for that movie. It gave me goosebumps. I was uncontrolled be crying. Great movie. Couldn't recommend more. Apple TV, Coda. watch it immediately.

Let me know what you think. I watched Free Guy. Went to the theaters. Fantastic. Watched Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds. Really good. Hard to find a bad Ryan Reynolds movie. Yeah, it's a feel good time.

I recommend that as well. You can't watch it on a streaming service, but you get to go to the movie theater. I got popcorn. I got milk duds. I got peanut M&Ms. And I got a big soda. I had a good time.

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Watch my guys game yet? Everybody ready to rock here? Yeah, I'm done. All right. That's a good two hours and 15 minutes. We screamed at each other

fun time. Yep. We got the championship this weekend. We've discussed that at length, and we've got the on Tuesday, or actually tonight, by the way, we got episode three

of the travel series comes out. So Thursday night, YouTube, APM Eastern Time. Go check that out. We'll be in the Forest Dunes is what it is. We'll be in the chat, going back and forth,

handicapped police, all that good, jazz. So see you there tonight. Champion versus champion. We got Kebke Dave on Tuesday at Liberty National. Be ready for that. All kinds of good stuff

going on in the golf world. Hit it hard. Good heart.