Fore Play - Thanksgiving Week w/ Brandel Chamblee

Episode Date: November 21, 2017

The people's analyst Brandel Chamblee joins the show for a second time to answer pressing questions on Tiger's looming return. How's his swing looking? Is he over the chipping yips? Will he ever win again? Brandel also dissects what makes Jordan Spieth so good, his latest twitter beef with Billy Horschel, and much more. In From The Gallery, Frankie, Trent, and Riggs discuss their choices for a 3-club tournament and the top 5 golf-related beers one can have! You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We got a big show this week. It's Riggs and your friend Trent. Hello. What's up, Trent, Daddy? Not much. I just came off a pretty hellacious travel weekend, but I'm excited to be here with you. Hellacious. Halacious.

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Omaha stakes.com search bar type of the promo code for whom 4999 best deal in the business we got a big show this week we got a massive show this week it's huge it's bursting at the seams it is bursting out the seams we got brandle shan willie our old buddy he's uh the golf channel analyst he's written a book he's working on a second we get into all of that we talk a lot about the fact that we are just over a week out from tiger woods's most recent return yeah we wanted to have him on he is a summer sometimes controversial figure in the world of golf, especially when it pertains to Tiger. So we wanted to get his thoughts. He had some recent comments about how he didn't think Tiger could play against this new crop of guys. We asked him about that. I mean, we asked him about Tiger, but we also asked him about this new book that he's writing. It's about short game. He can talk, so it's always good when he's on.

He has a lot of information. So we had him on the show. He was great. There's nobody more well prepared to talk about current events and golf happening, pretty much anything in the world, to be honest with you. And like you said, Brandel, he's that controversial guy. He kind of gets that smartest kid in the classroom rep where everybody always wants to hate on the smartest kid in the class,

the kid that raises his hand and answers everything. Well, yeah, and he had recently had a little bit of a run-in with Billy Horschell on Twitter, and he addressed that. And it was actually pretty interesting the way he went about that. Billy Horshaw called him a ghost on the range. Brandl had some interesting thoughts on where that and why he said that. So we kind of covered everything, all the recent events with Brandl. Yeah, it's funny because, you know, we had Brandl in studio,

midsummer, I believe it was. And we really didn't know what to expect. Like we said, he's been a pretty polarizing guy, one of those guys that some people love to hate. Brandel came in. I mean, he was like glowing when he came off the elevator. He had made a couple friends in the elevator. He was on there with sunshine at the time. He was shooting his shit with everybody, having a good laugh.

So Brandel, we're huge fans of Brandl. Love having him back on. He's got great insight. As always, you talk to him for a damn near an hour. Yeah. So you're going to like that. We got Frankie Borelli on. for from the gallery.

We got a couple good ones this week. We got what clubs do you choose for a three club tournament? And we've also got what are your top five golf related beers? Is it a turn beer? Is it a 19th hole beer? Is it a beer when you're getting ready to watch the coverage of your favorite event for the whole rest of the day? You know, what are your favorite beers?

What just tastes a little bit better that's golf related? Yeah, and you'll probably hear some ones that you have thought of or maybe some that you haven't thought of. And if you have some that you have that you didn't hear on the podcast, you should send them in and maybe we'll read them off next week. So recap a little bit of what we've been up to. Trent Daddy had his hellacious trip, but he's back. I did.

Yeah, I went to Morgantown this weekend, West Virginia, for the science tour, me and a few guys from the office. And then we went from Morgantown to Maryland. We went to Andrews Air Force Base, which was a lot of fun. We actually ended up getting there a day early. Love the troops. Love the troops. We got there a day early.

We didn't know that. So the event was on Monday and not Sunday. So I spent the night in D.C. last night, which is a beautiful city. Yeah, you guys had a big time barstool fuck up there. Yeah, it's one of those things that you're surprised by it in the moment. But then when you take a step back, you're like, oh, it's Barstool Sports. You know, you wake up at 5 a.m. in Morgantown on Sunday because you got to drive three and a half hours to be at this event at Air Force Base,

where we're going to hang out with the troops and give out a bunch of science and, you know, spread the Barstool brand. And you get there, you get through security at the Air Force Base. called the rep, and he says the event is tomorrow. At the same time, but tomorrow. It's at the same time. You're just 24 hours early. So then we had to shack up in Washington, D.C., which is a beautiful city. You and I had been there to take some pictures and videos around the monuments.

And then we did the event today at the Air Force Base, which was very cool. And so I got back to Barcel HQ about 20 minutes ago, and now we're doing the podcast. Just happy to be alive. It's good to have you back, Tray. Thank you. It's nice to have you. You're excited to go to sleep tonight. I am.

I've done it all. We flew to Pittsburgh and then we took an RV and then we took a train back today. So I've really covered all of the bases in terms of transportation. Plains, trains and automobiles. We made that joke on the way in and then nailed it. We were like, it's kind of sad that we actually did it. But we're back. We're all alive.

Shout out to Morgantown. Shout out to the people to Andrews Air Force Base. It was very fun weekend. Well, we're glad you made it. Thank you, Riggs. I was in Orlando this weekend. So this was the last minute trip. I got a buddy whose parents lived down in Iowa, and,

is one of my college buddies. His old man's great. Loves golf morning in the world. You know, he gets all jacked up when the boys come down to hang out. So it's a shot in the arm. Big time. A little founding of youth. Big time shot in the arm.

So we booked this like a week ago. We just, you know, a buddy texts me. He's like, hey, Florida next weekend. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah. So went down real quick trip Friday night, flew down at like 7.30. and then flew back Sunday at like 3.30. So we were there for less than 48 hours, played three rounds of golf.

I'll talk about Iowa worth really quickly. First of all, it's already, you know, it's an impossible course. When Tiger lived there, they literally have the tips are called the Tiger T's, and they have the T-boxes just say Tiger on them. That's awesome. Which is awesome. But they built the course to test Tiger on a day-to-day basis so that he could get ready to be the best golf for the history of the world.

It is already impossible, already. made to be as difficult as it can be. It's shaved down. We're going to get to all that. But one thing that is just completely devastating is my buddy's dad, I think he thinks that I'm the worst golfer on the planet. I have never played well ever in front of it. No way. You know how some people get the first T jitters? Yeah. I think I have like my roommate's dad jitters. When you book this trip last minute, were you thinking to your head, oh shit, I got to play with so-and-so's dad? No, because I've been playing great. Okay. Like, you know, we played like the 10. hips at Bethpage and I held my own.

I was hitting the ball. I was striping it. Played a bunch of different places. We've been playing a lot of the weekends and hitting the ball. Well, I thought I'd like found something. So I kind of was jacked up thinking, all right, he thinks I'm horrific. He's like laughing when I play certain T's being like, you're going to get annihilated. I mean, I might have shot 95. But it is in your head that you are like, all right, I know where I stand with this guy when I play golf.

I didn't think it was in my head until I hit my first T shot, like Duff blocked it out of bounds. And I haven't hit a shot. I mean, I teed the ball up like four inches in the air. You know, it's a pretty wide open fairway. We started like the 13th at Iowa, which is this beautiful par five. You hit over a lake, but the lake's really not in play. And the miss, I mean, rights tree trouble a little bit out of play, but I never miss right.

I play like kind of a draw. So I was like anything, I'll just hook it into left bunkers and we're off. It's part five, three shot, hold, no big deal. I mean, I hit like two inches behind the golf ball with a driver and like block chunked it out of bounds. Oh, boy. And made like a nine. And I was like. And then everyone hits you with the like, how welcome to Allo Worth.

It's tough. And I'm like, okay. But I've been playing well. And it's this guy's dad. He's fucking standing here. I know the course is tough. I can't hit the golf ball. Like every course is tough when you can't hit the golf ball.

But about Iowa worth, I do want to say that when I played there, I played there in January. It was the first time. And, you know, I thought it was great. But it was the first time I'd play golf in like four months at that point because I just, I just wasn't playing or whatever. And I don't think I really appreciated it. Iworth is fucking unbelievable. It's got to be the best

in shape course I've ever seen in my appellate. The greens run at like a 14th. Jesus. And this is just, they're like, yeah, that's just how,

they're not, they're not getting ready for a US Open. They're just how they all. They woke up and it's 14. And they do, you know, they have around all the greens,

they have, every green is, is basically raised and then completely clean shaven around the greens. So it's like any any miss hit little shot is gonna like dribble,

to the edge of the green, catch a hill and then roll like 20 yards down and you've got this impossible little like chip, do you bump and run it? Do you put it? But it's very fair. It's just like every shot is magnified. Every mistake is magnified. And when you're playing terrible, you like, I was struggling to make like double boats.

It's like, what is going on here? It was like such a grind. You're trying to stay positive. You're in Florida. It's 80 degrees. This guy's that dad is standing there laughing at you. My boy's dad who loves the show is like, can't wait to hear what he has to say on the podcast about this. And I'm mucking it up. up. I'm fucking hitting shots out of bounds left and right. And it's great, too, because they're playing

like T's in front of us. So, you know, my buddy and I, um, we tee off. He would hit first. I would hit second. I'd hit one like out of bounds. And then I'd have to like tee up again. And then they walk out to their T to hit. And they're like in front of me. So I have to like wait for them to hit and then clear. And then I have to hit again. I had to do that like six times. It was fucking debacle. That's a shit show. However, Iowa was the spectacular. They have this huge bowl on the first tea that just stares at you. It's very, it's impressive. It's a nice touch.

When you've got like a perfectly, perfectly manicured, you know, tea box with a giant bowl in the middle of it, you're playing somewhere. You're playing. I mean, you're playing a golf course. You're absolutely playing golf. Yeah, you're playing golf. So Iowa's awesome. I'm extremely, extremely hungry to get back there and try to play it in shape in which I

can actually strike the golf ball because it's an extraordinarily fun course. Like I said, it's got all these cool. little chipping areas around the greens, which give you all these different options. Do you bump and run it? Do you put it? Do you try to hit some crazy flop shot? Hint, you don't. It's a terrible idea.

You're going to shoot a million. But anyways, there was a good time. I also played Bay Hills. A little tough because they had just recently overseeded it. And then when they overseed, they dump a bunch of water on it. So they're like, yeah, it hasn't rained here in three weeks, but the course is flooded. I was like, all right. But Arnie's got his new statue.

I post that on my Instagram. It's the biggest statue I've ever seen. Huge. We had a lot of classic. I didn't realize Arnie was that tall jokes on my Instagram. Good times had by all. People were having a good time. People were having a good laugh on the old IG.

I also want to drop a quick travel tip that I picked up. Okay. So when you're traveling with your golf stuff, right, you get the golf travel bag. And in order to avoid having to pay for another bag to check with all your clothes and shit, you just throw all your stuff in your golf travel bag. However, that can sometimes make your golf travel bag be over 50 pounds. Yeah. So some guy DM me a little trick.

Okay. Awesome trick. Instead of like lifting your whole golf bag when they put it on the scale, you just kind of dribble the front end over and like kind of like half ass lay the front end on it. Yeah. But really the main like core weight of the golf bag is still just on the ground. Right. And I did that and it was like 31 pounds. I'm talking this bag after the guy like lifted it up after that and he like looked at me and I like ran away.

See you. Sorry. It's set in stone. On my way to the fucking gate, pal, I'll smell you later. There you go. I think a lot of people probably use that. So, awesome travel tip out there. I can't remember who somebody emailed me or DM me or something, and I didn't think of it until I was right there on the scale.

I knew my bag was too heavy. Yeah. I was thinking I'm going to have to put all kinds of shit in my backpack. I'm going to have to carry around this super heavy backpack on the plane that's a pain of the ass. Nope. Guy gave me this travel tip. I'm talking. I put maybe a third of my bag on there.

I mean, it wasn't even close. That's awesome. So a little travel tip for all your golfers out there. We also got to give a shout out to our guy, Kip Henley. he was on the bag this week. Austin Cook won the RSM classic. How about Kip? You know, he's grinding out there.

Well, when we had him on this podcast, there was a lot of his life was a little turbulent. I mean, he's fine, but it's like he didn't know where he was going to go, what bag he was going to be on. And he had said on that podcast, if I remember correctly, correctly, he wanted to get on with a young guy

and, like, you know, kind of help him out, maybe get his first win. And sure enough, our guy Kip, he got a win. It was great. You're right. And he wears his heart in his sleeve, so he's kind of been he's been out there he talks about it he tweets very very frequently about how he's flying to different places and jumping on different bags and really hoping something will land we even put a couple tweets out for him sometimes being like hey this is our guy kip kip kip kip we're a young stud throw this guy in the bag he's great boom all of a sudden they're in the winter circle he was tweeting now you know they're into a bunch of tournaments next year all the big ones so awesome awesome stuff for our guy kip henley we're going to have him back on the show here really soon we're very friendly with caddies definitely very friendly with pretty much everyone we're very friendly with pretty much everyone Yeah, we've had, I mean, all walks of life, all golf walks of life.

We've had him on this podcast pretty much. Yeah, we're an all-inclusive golf podcast. Very much so. All right, next up, we got From the Gallery with our guy Frankie Borelli. Now live with our guy Frankie Borelli. Hello, boys. Pizza maker has joined the show. Looking like a snack in his Patagonia vest.

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We try to kill Dave every year. Buy stuff, kill Dave. It works out. Bankrupt his ass. Sorry. Sorry, Frankie. We do have a team Portland guy here. Yeah, watch what you say.

On the show. He's not listening to it. Yeah, but it'll get to him. That's true. From the gallery. From the gallery. All right. First one, we got Alex.

Alex goes on to tell this long deal about a three club tournament. he's playing in. So the question naturally is in a three club tournament, one round of golf, 18 holes, what are your three clubs that you're choosing? This is a classic dilemma. This is a silly season type move. When I had a membership RIP at a club, we would always do like mid-Nove when it's like fucking 40 degrees out.

Everybody's just trying to have fun. Nobody's taking it too seriously. You play three clubs. Usually you play a T or two up and you just go out there. It's nice. You don't have to carry a golf. bag you put like five balls in your pocket a couple tees three clubs boom you're ready to rock so the question is what three clubs do you rock frankie burelli i've been thinking about this one i've

actually i'm becoming a book guy now you see this oh my goodness that's not a book that's like a journal it's a journal i'm becoming a journal guy you have a diary i write in it it's like a frankie just pulled out a fucking diary you know what it feels like it feels like it feels like you flip the pages near the thing there so they can hear it look at he's got he pulled like a journal out of his pocket i have That was crazy. I feel great walking around with it, too, and I feel even better writing in it. What kind of pen do you keep in there?

Oh, it's a, I don't know how to explain it, but it's like the very, very fine, fine tip. Like, one of those little, like, what are they called? It feels like your ballpoint or something. No, no, it's even like, it's hard in that. It feels like you're cutting into the paper. Oh, those are nice. Like you're giving the paper a tattoo.

So you write down ideas, everything on that thing? I write down ideas. Like, Riggs told me that this question was going to be coming up, so I wrote down a couple ideas once they came to my head, and I didn't want to forget them. Do you think it feels less romantic to jot something down in the notepad of your phone? Is that, like, kind of the deal? Yeah, I've always tried to keep my electronics and my technology neat and clean, and it never ends up working.

Right. So I'm always like, when I get a new phone, I'm going to, like, have everything so neat. Like, oh, I'm going to have notes. I'm going to have a great calendar. And, like, I never do it. And then when I buy a journal, or I actually got this journal, like, just handed to me from something we've gone to. And I'm always like, I'm going to keep this thing unbelievably clean just in case if I die or anything ever happens, someone can look back at this,

be like, wow, this kid's life is... It's kind of like a regal move to pull a journal out of your pocket. This might be part of your motivation is there's an early episode of Kirby enthusiasm where, because Larry David carries around... So Dave calls it his Larry David book. Okay, so then that makes sense. Dave has one too. Dave has a Larry David book,

all of the secrets and all of his ideas about Barso Sports are in this book. I couldn't even imagine going through that. So what? It's crazy. He filled one up already. All these pages with just doodles and ideas. He filled one up, but we just got him a new one. they should well he would never but they should auction that thing that's a great idea

anyway i have like i have like a hundred uh one-tenth notes in my in my note app on my phone that i just started and never got anywhere near finished with regal is the right word for the for what's going on here you feel much more sophisticated in old school putting press like when you pulled that out with your patagon you fucking vest on it's this that was crazy it's the whole it's the little ribbon around it too you have to undo the ribbon just to get to the information inside i thought You got like an apprenticeship as like a professor. I may even cross my leg. I may even cross my leg right now and hold it out here like I'm a goddamn professor.

You keep going to take a picture. Don't change anything. All right. Let's start. Let's start. What clubs? What's the three clubs? So, I'm going to act like I don't know the pictures being taken. Yeah, act a little more normal.

So this is people are going to look. I'm going to post this picture tomorrow. And people are going to know. This is what Frankie fucking looks like when he pulled his journal out of his goddamn pocket in the middle of from the gallery. Stunting on all of us. Yeah. All right. Three clubs.

All right. So I'm really in the middle of this because for me, I have a way I'm going to do it. I know how other people would do it. I am going to use driver because a driver for me is a weapon. That's my best club. It's my best club. It's my best club. A driver?

My driver is my best club. I know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. I do not miss fairways for some reason. Like I know that sounds like a hard of move. But I hit my driver very well. I cannot hit like a four iron.

I cannot hit a five iron. I cannot hit a four iron consistently with confidence. I know that if I did. not take my driver, I would be done off the tea. I'd be done. So I'm taking driver. I'm taking seven iron and I'm taking a 56 degree. Okay. That's what I'm taking.

Trette. Trette. Daddy? So I am also taking seven iron. The reason I take seven iron, ever since I started playing golf as a young child, a seven iron is just always felt right in my hands. So perfect degree. Yeah, it's tin cup, right? It's just like your favorite club. So every time I'm holding it, I feel like it's just, it's going to work

out. So I got to do that. I'm doing the the three wood because I'm not taking driver. That's a crazy move to take the driver. But I need the three wood to off the tee every once in a while. And then when I'm in the middle of the fairway, I can use that every once in a while. I seem to get pretty good wood on it. And then I'm, I don't know if this is a crazy move or not.

I'm taking the putter. Do people not take putters in this? So let me say this. Good question. Very good question. This is a constant dilemma in this scene. So the first time, I've only done this, I think, once. And the one time, the first time I did it, I went four iron, like nine iron putter.

thinking that like I could chip welling up with like a nine iron and you got to be able to putt. I was like if you can just hole like six footers. Yeah. Like any of your mediocre shots and chips will be fine, but you got to be able to fucking putt. And I played in a group of this guy who didn't bring a putter. He brought like a 56 degree wedge and he putted with the 56 degree wedge. Legit putted better than I putted with my putter. And I was like I am the dumbest person of all time.

This is so stupid because it's not like when you putt it's not like you make every. Think about how many times you just tap in with your putter. Yeah. Not that often. You tap in. No, you tap in all the time. All the time. Because you miss putts and then you just tap in.

So you're still missing a million puts with your wedge, but you're like just lagging it up there close and tapping in. Gotcha. So it was like I'm wasting all these strokes, these like six inch strokes that I'm wasting that I brought my putter to make that it's like so stupid. So I would go. The other thing I would say, Trent, is about bringing the three wood. Yeah.

Is that it's nice. You can use it around the green to chip. There you go. Right. Yeah, that'd be the one. You could even, you could even, but then it does it. I think if you're going to bring a three wood or like a driver or something, that's what I mean. Like it's almost, it's so close to a putter.

So I think your decisions were terrible, Trent. Okay, thank you. Even the seven iron? Well, no, seven iron's fine. But I mean, you're never going to fuck up the middle club, right? No, probably not. I think I really just, it's another thing where it's a personal choice that the three wood, I feel like I can get great contact on it all the time. My driver, I don't feel that way, and I can hit a three wood way straighter than I can a driver.

I just feel like you can put well enough with a three wood. three wood that it would be stupid to have a three wood and a putter. What do you do? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to go four iron. Okay. Because I think that I can move it out there well enough off the tea.

You tee that puppy up an inch or so and you can kind of roast it. It's a whole thing. If you're able to hit an iron off a tea, you always take that. I just can't. I play with my buddy, Kyle at Bayonne. We played with Francis. He didn't use anything other than a five iron off the tea and the kid shot like an 81. So it's like that he basically was on his way to doing this challenge anyway.

He was using 5 iron, 9 iron Just staying in play. Like just never in play. But for me, I couldn't do it. I was hitting them left. I was hitting them right. So I was using driver on these holes. So I was using like driver wedge anyway.

Depends on what course you're playing, by the way. Yeah. Play the page black. You're taking a driver. It just became. I was going to throw that in, but then it's like, it's such a variable-based con debate that it's like we'll sit here all fucking day. True.

So I was just going generic golf course, which doesn't exist. But just thinking your brain, generic golf course. Okay. So I'm going four iron off the T, eight iron. I was thinking seven iron, but it's too close to a four iron. So I need a little bit more gap there, yardage wise. Yeah. Eight iron and then 56 degree wedge.

Yeah. And I'm just going to try to blade my wedge is going to be my putting stroke. And if that really struggles, I think I can use a four iron and the kind of blade a four iron as well. But a lot's going to hinge on if I can actually put with a wedge or not. Yeah. Like if I can't, I'm going to be, I'm going to suck. I'm going to stick. Yeah, I agree.

I think the right place to go too. irons on a wedge. I think that's the right play, but I think if you have confidence in your driver, you can get on a generic golf course, which tends to be, if you're hitting the ball far enough, you can go driver wedge for most of the holes. Oh, totally. I have buddies that just do driver wedge the whole day anyway, because they hit bomb drives. Even if you're left and right, you're still 110 yards out. Like on a bad drive, it's like that's still a wedge. Most average, like, Muni public golf courses that we play are going to be, it's going to be driver wedge. But then again, it can also be five iron, eight iron.

Because, you know what I mean? Right, right, right, right. Right. Okay, I'm interested to see what people think on that. Like I said, I pulled the move where I pulled my putter the first time I ever did it. And I was like, four holes in. I was like, you are the dumbest person all the time. You're getting smoked by this guy.

I think you have to break it out. I think you have to break it out by like, by yardage. So your zero to 120 would be your wedge. Your 120 to 180 could be. See, it is hard because you get to a point where like you're not going to hit a 7 iron 180 yards. You really get to a point. Right, where you're like, you would be so fucked on, like, driver, you have driver seven iron. So if you're like 190 out, you're just fucked.

Like, what are you going to punch a driver? I'm just short. What if it's just like bunkers and shit and like water? You lay up on long holes, you're not made, you're not. So like a long par four, you're not making it on too. It's just, you have to, you just know that. See, the beauty of having a four iron is like even if you're 185 out, you can like choke down. Yeah.

And like hit some crafty little thing that might land on the back of the green or something. I'm just not confident enough in my. Long irons. I would love to see you 190 out with, like, a driver. Like, all right. What am I going to do? That's what I'm saying. What the fuck am I going to do there?

See, I just would be like, I'm not going for the green. I'm just going to hit, like, the nice little skirt. That's so easy to say from the booth. No chance you're out there like, oh, I can run this up the left and you're, like, hitting this little fucking boochy driver. I know. It's tough. But, like, I think the 7 iron universally has to be in everyone's.

Because you can, like, play a nice bump and run with the 7. You can hit it from 150. D. Seven's nice. I'm just saying if you go four, four to seven is not enough. Like how many times is that four coming in play on the fairway? If you're hitting your four iron off the T,

great, and you're hitting it with distance, and you're hitting them consistently, how often is that club leaving you in a position where you need to hit that four iron again? I'm saying if you're hitting your four iron, great that day, and you're hitting it 210, 200 yards. How often are you now using the four iron and the fairway off the T,

so you might as well use the driver anyway? No, I think that you're... I see what you're saying. Like, maybe on one par five. No, but I think it just leaves you with enough options. Like, in theory, I have a way better chance of hitting a four iron between 160 to 200 than I do a driver. Right. Like crafting some kind of shot.

Yeah, okay. Right, whereas the driver, I got no fucking shot. What am I going to do? Where I hit a flop fucking driver? No. You have no shot. Whereas, like, a four iron, you can, like, open the face and try to, like, hit... You know, you can try shit.

There's some diversity. I don't think you got any chance with a driver. No. I'm agreeing you have no chance. I'm just saying I'm going into that round knowing I'm not making that onto the green. I'm playing conservatively. Yeah, and you're fun. I would be fuck.

But I'd like, I'd like to try this. We got to do this. Yeah, we do. All right. Next one. So we, this is stems from a KFC radio. Those are our guys. If you don't know them, go check them out.

They're fucking hilarious. KFC Fidelberg. They talk about, they talk about spitting on people a lot. That's like the new thing. Is that one of their new deals? Well, yeah, because we've got that new Mikey podcast. guy or whatever and he like doesn't i don't know there's something about spitting and now kevin brings it up every single time because he likes it so they had a pretty famous conversation of top five

beers that one can drink and an example is like an airport beer or uh i said an opre ski beer which is you know your first drink after you get off the mountain for like a post lawn mowing beer right these are like the best beers where the beer is just infinitely better it tastes the best because of the situation so this got us thinking what are the top five What are your top five golf related beers that you can have? It could be on the course. It could be after. It could be based around tour stuff, a big event that you're at, that you're watching on your couch, whatever.

What are the top five golf related beers that you can think of? We'll start with Trent Daddy this time. Well, I feel like we're all going to have post-round beer, yeah? Like that's pretty standard by everybody. Yeah. So the one thing, the caveat that I would say on that is post-round when you've played well beer. Yeah, that definitely adds to it. Like, if you had a dog shit day, the last thing you want to do is, like, go sit down and, like, reminisce about it.

Yeah. You're like, I've fucking sucked out there. What else can I say? And it becomes, like, drinking all your pain. Which, again, I mean, that can rank up there too. Are you ranking that up there? Yeah. See, that's a dark, it's a dark beer.

Like, I'll do it, and I'm going to do it, and it's fine in the moment, but it's like, I drank some dark beers before. I was just saying, I mean, if we're going to talk about dark beers and we're not talking the color, if we're like, the early. I actually sneak. I like if you have a Saturday morning tea time early, the first beer that morning. It's like a it's a love-hate relationship. You kind of struggle through it. But once you get through it, you feel like you're on top of the world. So this was on mine as like breakfast when you have like a late morning tea time, a breakfast beer.

So like if you go to the course like two hours early, you get breakfast for like an hour and then you hit balls for a little bit. That beer during that breakfast is nice. Like take some of the nerves off. Yeah. You're kind of chilling. Almost feels like it's unacceptable anywhere else to drink a beer that early and like in an environment. like that, but on the golf course, it's just like, it's okay. It's accepted.

Totally. It's like at the airport. People say, like, yeah. You go to the airport like, you're drinking at all times. 7.30 a.m. people are in, like, pajamas drinking at the fucking bar. Time doesn't exist at the airport. Same type of deal. Yeah.

Yeah. What else we got? So, uh, I had, I had, which I had you looking through is now. Yeah, I'm just looking at my, my leather bound book. Um, nice. When you're at a country club and somebody, and you're a guest somewhere and somebody, it's either the caddy. or somebody that works there.

We've experienced this before where someone goes, let me get you guys a drink. And you're already on the golf course. And so, like, they'll hop in a cart or the caddy will send someone. And they come. It's an airstrike. And they come and bring you a beer. And it's always, it always has a lid on it.

I don't know why. But that freaking beers taste so good because I'm like, man, am I living life right now? Somebody just, I just, like, hit a golf ball at a great golf course. And someone just went and got me a beer. And I'm drinking it. Like, they're asking me to enjoy this. beer on their golf course. And for some reason, that's my, I've had it, my top beer, like, ever on a golf course

there. Like, it just tasted right. It was like, wow, I'm not carrying my bag. Like, I'm walking down the golf course with a, with a cup of beer with a nice little lid. For some reason, taking the lid off feels cool. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I, I, I'd never heard this term before, but it was at Bayonne was the first time.

When I had heard it. And then the guys at Wingfoot do the same thing. They call it the same thing. They say we're calling it an airstrike. And I look around, like, what the fuck does that mean? Right. Are people hitting balls at me or something? Like, what does that mean?

And they're calling an airstrike. They call the pro shop. Or they have like the caddy calls like, you know, the bar. And they do. They rush it out in a cart. They bring it to you. It's perfect. You're like walking down and they just deliver beers to you.

Like, what do you give the guy like $20? Boom. That beer feels great. Another one was more specifically to a golf course. I know you've played here with the 19th hole of Bethpage. Yeah. Oh, great bar. So the bar is called the 19th hole.

It's wooden. It's dark. It's like it has that like cool feeling where it's like I just accomplished something. When you're sitting in a, wooden room. For some reason, you just feel more accomplished. It's one of the top 19th whole bars I've ever seen. It's an awesome bar. It's such a good bar. It's cool. It's like

tight too. Very small. So everybody's, it almost feels like an old school like pub. Yep. And but then they have like a couple tables that sit out by the windows, but most of it you're just kind of in almost this like. Yeah. Clustrophobic bar, which is what you want. Oh yeah. I've been to that bar. We ordered, we ordered

like a pre-round lunch there. We did, yeah. No, it was a pre-round. It was a pre-round. It's very intimate in there. I like it. And the same bar There's there all the time, and he always makes these jokes, and, like, you laugh at him, but he kind of roasts you. Like, I remember once, I'm like, could I get this pinini? He's like, I don't know. Can you? It's like, okay, like.

Oh, that's a, uh, that's a classic grammar teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, can you? But, like, for some reason, this guy's at the 19th toll. You're supposed to say Mayotte. For some reason, this guy always at this 19th hole, you know, I may take this off the list. Because now I'm thinking about this guy's kind of a dick. You're like, no, I think about this bar is.

Like, that bar is great, but that bartender always says a little smirky answer from me. every time I order something. You're going to pull the pen and cross that off. Yeah, my lipstick. Okay, so I had three of those, basically. So the two that I'm going to add are, these are obviously very specific, but I'm going to say Ryder Cup Saturday morning beer. And that also kind of goes against societal norms,

when you wake up. And on the Saturday of the Ryder Cup, they do 36 holes. So they have to tee up early as fuck. the teada like 7.30 in the morning. And so you get up really early and a bunch of your buddies, you know, like all your golf buddies like four or five of you will meet at somebody's place, all geared up in American shit. And you sit down at like seven in the morning.

And for whatever reason, it's totally cool. You start cranking beers at like seven. And then you watch golf for 12 hours straight of the rider cop where you're hooting, you're hollering, you're all USA, you're high fiving when they make putts. Other people that aren't into golf start waking up at like nine on that Saturday. You've been up for like two hours cranking beers. That's great. And then the other one that I was going to say is major championship Sunday once you've bet on someone to win.

And you've got like an hour before they tee off beer. And I know that's super super specific. That's very specific. But you've had that beer many times. But I had one unbelievable day with one of my old roommates, Ryan, where I think I might have told this story a little bit before. but I don't think I've told the whole thing, but it was Chambers Bay Sunday, and they were playing, you know,

it was in Washington, so it was way West Coast Pacific time. And we didn't really think about that. So we woke up like 10 a.m. We were Speed, it was like a shot back or something, and we put a bunch of money on Speed to win. And we realized it that since they were teeing off

on the West Coast time, that he didn't tee off till like four o'clock. It's like 11, and we're expecting them to tee off in like an hour or two. like normal golf. We were like, what are we going to do off days? So we started drinking at like 1 a or 1 p.m. drank all the way through DJ three jacks on 18 because we're sitting there like

DJ's got 12 feet to win. I can't believe we're going to lose like this. He's going to make Eagle on the 70 second hole. That's crazy. And then he hits it 45. We're like, oh, shit. And then he misses. We're like, let's go.

And we've been drinking all fucking day. So I think like you're so hyped up for major championship golf. You only get four major championships Sundays a year. So I think kind of cranking open a beer before that starts and just knowing like, I'm going to sit down all day and potentially watch like memorable golf history that we're going to be talking about for a long time is a great beer. That is a great, very specific good beer. It's a little too specific. But there's one that we haven't mentioned.

But now people can do it now. I don't know if we did it because it's so obvious, but obviously the turn beer. Yeah. That's like the most obvious one ever. Yeah. So, I mean, we try to stay away from the two obvious ones. turn beer, pretty much any 19th hole really. Again, I want to say that, like, I think a 19th whole beer after you've played really well,

and you just can't wait to talk about all your cool shots and, like, basically brag for like an hour. Right. Is an unbelievable beer. The only one that I have that we haven't really talked about yet, it might be too obvious. We all went to Augusta for the first time this year. The first Augusta beer that you have, because you don't have your cell phone, and you're just out there, you're like, I'm just drinking this beer walking along a golf course. That's a nice one.

Yeah, and so I was going to say my biggest memory from that is the area, the 13, green and like the 14th T because it actually wasn't that packed whereas like when you're standing around aiming corner it's kind of like jam packed you almost need like a seat to really see anything but we grabbed beers and we walked down the tree line of 13 and we were over in that little nook where it's kind of just like a fucking field yeah where 13 fairway and like 14th fairway kind of come together and you can get down in that little corner near the 13th green and we stood right there just drinking beers like fucking 20 yards away from the 13th green in augusta we're just like how are we allowed to stand here this is crazy if we're talking about augusta and beer

i think my favorite beer of all time is when i was holding one when mac coocher hit just a hole in one right in front of my face i mean like very specific but again a good one that was the coolest like i like after i had three you like throw your beer in the fucking air no i like i somehow kept a very like i went i was a maniac he hit a hole in one right in my eyeball and then like everything thing just calmed down. I looked down on my right hand. I had a beer there. I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm going to drink this now. I drank it. And it was like so refreshing because my throat had was like, I had like cotton mouth from screaming like a maniac. That's great too in Augusta because they don't label the beer. It just says like, what does it say American beer?

I don't know. Domestic. I can't talk about, yeah. I can't talk about fluids at Augusta without talk about sports drink. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That goddamn sports drink. I've tried to recreate that shit, man. It's not just power rain in ice. It's something different, man. It takes. Something else going on in there. It's like, think about the most refreshing Gatorade you've ever had, and it's like five times so refreshing to that. I told you the one time I tried to. Sonic was like, Sonic, there's a Sonic now in Long Island.

And like, it's like the biggest deal is like lines out. Fricking, there's like lines. Long Islanders just loves Sonic. We didn't get one forever. And like we see all these commercials with this two idiots. Cedar App has got a Sonic. They were hot like 10 years ago. Yeah.

And the line. I was going to say Sonic and St. Louis like 20 years ago. Oh, there's no sod. No socks. So there's lines like out the freaking to the middle of the island, right? Anyway, there was this one drink that they were advertising on this like huge billboard in my town. And it was this blue ice cold drink, right? And I forgot what the hell it's called.

It's called like something water. Like I don't know what it was called. It's like their special thing. I'm like, oh my God, that looks like the sports drink. And this was like recently. I'm like, I'm going to drink the shit out of this. Waited online. I mean, they skate the thing out to you.

It was like a half an hour process. I finally get this drink. I popped the lid open. And I, like, went for a huge gulp because I was so thirsty during the summer. And it was the worst drink I've ever had in my entire life. And I literally walked out of my car, threw it out, and just went home. And I was so angry. I had to drink something else just to get out of my mouth.

Oh, that's awful. Nothing will ever recreate the sports trip. Yeah, and it was a huge burst sip because you're like, this is going to be the greatest thing. Yeah. And I specifically made myself thirsty just to drink this sonic drink. And it was the worst drink of all time. Tough. So I have a quick story.

my brother, so he's playing men's league hockey. And he, you know, men's league hockey. Everybody always forgets like water bottles and you're super like, there's nothing like not being in hockey shape. You've become like the most tired, exhausted human being in the world. And this happens every time you play men's league. All the hockey guys out there don't know this. So my brother, you know, plays the game. They got no fucking water on the

bench. Like a shit rinks. They got like no water fountains in the rink. Shows up real quick. Runs out to his car. It's like, you know, midwinter. It's like 25 degrees out. So he looks around his car. He's got like, a bottle that's like ice cold, uh, clear liquid. So he's like, oh, unreal. Bottle of water opens it up like chugs like happen immediately. It was pure vodka.

Oh! No. I mean, you could die like that because it probably like seats with all your organs. He like didn't, he didn't like chug, but he like half of it got into his mouth doing like ready to do it. And he's like, I vomited everywhere. Oh. Can you imagine being on the golf course and like, you know when you get really, really, I mean, we've experienced us at that one place on Long Island. Oh, yeah, we were at, what's that fucking place called?

Winwatch. Win watch. One of my favorite public golf courses. No water. They had no water. I remember Riggs's buddy was like, I'm like, hey, what do you think about the golf course? Like, it's great, man. But I wish I had some liquid at it.

Like, I wish they gave you just one sip of water. Dude, it was crazy. It was so much. There was so little water that we had, we played a hole, right? We were like, whoever loses this hole has to call up and try and get water out here. And we called up and the place was just closed. I'm like, is there any liquid on this golf course? I'm about to drink the goddamn pond.

Dude, we did a part three and it was so, we were so parched. Right. It was like one of those movies where you start to like eat each other and stuff. You're freaking out. We did a part three where it was like whoever drank my own piss. I felt like I was like it was out there. Like I felt like it was like a punishment that I was there. I'm paying for this.

We did furthest from the pen has to call the pro shop and like demand. water. And the pro shop was like... And the best part was we all, when we were done with the round, we all finished, I think I drove separately from you guys. Yeah. And I just pulled into some random gas station. And we were all in there just buying huge things of water and Gatorade.

I'm like laying on the ground chucking gatorades in water. It was the most random gas station ever, too. It wasn't even on our route home. Windwatch. Great layout. Great course. Put some water on the fucking... Some water out there.

It's insane. It's like a law. I think you need water. I think you need water. We were like... you should have seen what we were coming up within our brains. We were like, this is preposterous. I've never, isn't it written into the guidelines of golf course that you have to have water on certain holes?

That's so funny. We were not happy. All right. That's from the gallery this week. Next up, our guy, Brandlchambly, we talk about it. I kind of pepper them up right at the beginning. But one of the most notorious, the most well-prepared analyst in the game of golf. We talked to him for quite a bit.

We got Tiger's return coming up. So we get to all of that. And, of course, much, much more. Next up, we are joined by a friend of the program, a recurring guest, Brandel Schaembley, commentator, and analyst, in my opinion, the number one analyst in the game of golf for golf channel. I'm a little biased, perhaps. Also, author, I have read The Anatomy of Greatness since our last interview for anybody that hasn't checked it out. It could be a great gift. You can read it yourself.

Basically what Brandel does. He goes through the fundamentals of the golf swing lists, you know, the greats and how they did it and how they were. able to do it successfully. A good example, for example, is Jack Nicholas, same ball position on every shot. A lot of people teach, you know, move it forward for longer clubs, move it backwards, for shorter clubs, et cetera, et cetera. I'm sure you've got some other examples, Randall, if you'd like to plug your book. Well, no, you've done a hell of a job. Thank you. I'm buzzing right now. I'm ready to rock. You really, really buttered him up, right, to start the interview. Buttered him up. That's classic. That's interview 101.

How's it going, Brandel? It's good. Winding down, I am writing my second book, so most of my days I'm up at an ungodly hour around two or three o'clock, and I sit and stare at a blank screen. But, you know, it's fun. It's been a lot of fun writing this book. I'm doing the same thing with the short game. The commonalities of the greatest players of all time, short game players, putters, and so forth.

And there's just not as much information out there as, there was for the long swing. You know, if you'd ask me before I wrote the book on the long swing, I would have thought I could just write it off the top of my head. I mean, as it turns out, I did a lot of research and learned quite a bit. But this book, you know, I have dug in deep, and I've had to go back, and it's just been really tedious because they're not that many good books on putting and chipping and pitching, nor is their great video. So it's been more of a sort of, you know, forensic exercise, so to speak. But I should be done with it in the next month.

So really, that's been where the bulk of my time has gone over the last three or four months. So let me ask you this. Speaking of the short game, that's obviously what you've been working on a lot lately. You hear quite a bit that Jack Nicholas' short game kind of stunk. Is that true? No. No. I mean, I guess it, you know, it was, it works out convenient to say that.

because he was so good at everything else. But I've seen no evidence of that. I've gone back. I look at all kinds of video. I go back and just watch every tournament that was on the air in the 60s, in the 70s. And, you know, he looks perfectly capable. Does he look Sevi-esque? Well, no.

I mean, Sevi just had a certain flare, and Sevi was always in the crap. And he always had these heroic-looking shots. Jack had, you know, he'd misogreen, and he'd have a straightforward. pitch because, A, he didn't have wild misses, and B, he didn't hit a lot of dumb shots. So his short game shots were necessarily, or subsequently, I should say, more straightforward and pedestrian. But he was, you know, arguably the greatest putter who ever lived. And from what I could tell, he was a more than adequate pitcher and bunker player.

Having said that, I'm not going to have him in the section on chipping and bunker players. play. I'll have Seve and others, but Jack will be front and center when it comes to putting. I feel like it's got to be tricky kind of dissecting players short games and putting because so much of it is, you know, based off of everybody talks about feel, sort of natural ability, creativeness, and all those sorts of things. Well, that's true. And that's where I believe there's so much misinformation. You know, if you go up and ask a great putter what it is they do, you will invariably come away disappointed because the fact is great putters long ago forgot about their technique and just went about the business of making putts, which is reading greens and

thinking about and wondering about great touch and feel. They're not thinking about technique. So they invariably leave everybody disappointed who asks them about technique. So almost every single short game book will either say, you know, putting is entirely about being comfortable or about being, you know, having your own style, which is just a bunch of BS because if you go back and you look at the greatest putters of all time, and I've just blacked out their bodies and all you could see was the putter. That was it.

Their putter in their hands, they're almost identical, if not identical, the way the putter moves. The putter gets behind the hand. There's a lot of set in the right wrist. The leperist sort of curls under to where the back of it faces the ground. They almost all put singular, almost completely with their right hand on the through stroke. They're almost literally identical. Bobby Locke putted just like Tiger and Tiger put it just like Horton Smith. Horton Smith put it just like Walter Hagen and Walter Hagen put it just like Jack Nicholas.

I mean, almost identical. Like you cannot tell any difference. So, you know, I will have those fundamentals in the book and hopefully dispel a lot of what you just said. Yeah, I was going to say, it's very easy to say, oh, just get comfortable when you have a nearly flawless putting stroke. Exactly. You know, and they'll say, you know, all you want to do is get comfortable. But the fact is, with only one or two minor exceptions in the setup, you know, again, Tiger Woods looks just like Horton Smith, who in my mind is the greatest putter wherever lived. Tiger has set up very similar to Ben Crenshaw, who set up very similar to Brad Faxon, who set up very similar to Bobby Jones, who set up very similar to Bobby Locke, and on and on it goes.

So while it's marvelous to just say get comfortable, the fact is how you set up affects your stroke. And the best, either intuitively or maybe they were coached, but I would imagine they just came by it intuitively, with the exception of Jones, who was coached by Walter Travis, and that really spurred on all of Jones's success. There's a before and after when Walter Travis told Bobby Jones had a set up to the ball. There was a before and after, like after he was the greatest player ever before he struggled.

And that was really stand up tall, get your feet together, and then various other things that I'll nuanced things that I'll sort of unearthed in my book. I'll be honest, it's very clear that you've been putting a lot of time into this. Yeah, you know, it's incredibly boring to talk about, to be honest with you. I don't think it is. My wife will come home and she'll go, hi, what did you do? What did you? I'm like, listen, I'll have you asleep in five minutes. Okay, let's have a cocktail. I need a break. So, you know, this is, you know, this is for geeky golf people, you know, and, you know, I think,

talking about these kinds of things, you know, it's fun. You know, I'm a geek. That's what I am. I'm a total golf geek. So, you know, my goal is to shed some light on what the greatest putters have done so that I can make it simple for people. When I see people putting cross-handed or claw or, you know, sort of semi-belly, you know, I think you can't help but think it's just because they never learned the proper technique.

and because it was never really coached. And there are very, very, like I'll give you example. Like Jack Nicholas wrote golf my way, okay? Great book, wonderful book. And in there, it's got a flip sequence of his golf swing. He also wrote putting my way, far more obscure. And in it, there is no flip sequence or photos of his putting stroke. Imagine writing a putting book, greatest putter of all time with nothing on his stroke.

You know, he'd have these weird sort of angles in a couple of finished putting, you know, nobody really puts any, you know, you read Golf Digest Golf Magazine, they don't put putting strokes in there or even chipping strokes for that matter, it's mostly full swing. So to go find all this stuff and find the commonalities is, you know, it really is, it's like looking for, you know, fossils in the Mojave Desert, you know, it takes a lot of time. And then you've got to find the commonalities and then sort of, you know, figure out a way to explain that to people. So, you know, it's, it's been a challenge. But when it's finished, I told my wife, if I say I'm going to write another book to punch me right in the face for at least

the next couple of years. So we'll give you a chance to be a little bit more controversial. How do you feel about these, I don't know what you call them, I guess the charted green reading books that these players are pulling out, they got the freaking percentages of the degrees of break or whatever on the green. I think these are complete bullshit. How do you feel about these? Because obviously reading greens is a very important skill in the game. Yeah, you know, we're in that era where everybody is deluge with information. You know, and the idea, you think about it, if you play golf for a living and somebody says, listen, I'm going to tell you exactly what these greens do. It's going to be written right

here for you. You'd be crazy not to at least be. tempted to look at the information. I've seen no evidence whatsoever. This makes people better putters. You know, I can't, you know, I have a running tally right now. I'm doing sort of a deep dive as I watch players go through the various green reading motions and then I'm cataloging how they putt. So at some point, I'll have, you know, criteria to sort of base my opinion on.

My first gut reaction is all of that for that. You know, I think their intuition would tell them everything that they're looking for if they would put the book down and just look. And again, that's why great putters are great putters, because think about it, if you are busy intellectually trying to look at tedious information or you are busy intellectually trying to think about tedious technique and cognitively you miss so many nuances that are so important to the short game.

That's why great putters are sort of ascribed, whether it's true or not, with great green reading skills and great touch and great mental attributes. Because we assign those to them because they make puts nobody else thinks they should make. But the fact is, again, they were busy picking up on all the nuances of the green while somebody else was thinking about whether or not their stroke was going straight back or straight through. So this is the gift of being in the moment and not thinking about technique or how green is breaking this way or that way or that way or where the fall line is. You just you look at it, you see it. And then you think, now how can I trace that line with this ball? How can I have the right touch and the feel? And that's why you watch Tiger Woods when he was reading putts, and he circled putts 360 degrees.

Never ever did you get the sense he was thinking about technique. He was literally picking up on every single nuance, grain, speed, wind, his metabolism, and then reconciling his metabolism with every single thing else. And then he would make puts that nobody could imagine he'd make. And that's the gift of being present. So you just delivered a really nice segue there. Tiger Woods return next week. You recently were in the first question. You recently, you know, you were asked if Tiger can challenge today's best players.

You said no is the short answer. You listed a few different reasons why. We are Tiger fanboys here, so we're not happy with that answer at all. So we're going to ask you to elaborate on why you believe Tiger is not going to be able to compete with guys. A great many reasons. I'm a, I guess, to some extent, a Tiger fanboy as well, because nothing would please me more than to see Tiger Woods come back and play great golf. It'd be great. First of all, he hand delivers stories to me. Second of all, it's entertaining as hell. Like, I have to work not at all when Tiger plays well.

It's like, here's your story. And then it's just great for everybody, right? Why? Why? First of all, he's in a battle with Father time. The window closes very. quickly in your 40s. Second of all, he doesn't just have a bad back. He has a horrible back. Third of all, he, and until I see evidence to the contrary, every single time he's come out, he's had a golf swing that exacerbates his back.

In other words, he's had very little movement off of the ball, and this is, again, fairly technical. I'll try to make it as understandable as I can't. Because he doesn't move off the ball or laterally to the ball, the right that he squats down. So, and then he jumps up to get power. So he doesn't get momentum going right and left and rotationally. He gets momentum squatting and jumping.

And when you do that, it causes, the poor spine rotation causes back injury. So he's re-injured his back every single time he's come back, right? Every single time, he gets cleared by the doctor to pot, he gets cleared to chip, he gets clear to swing, and somebody he plays with, whether it's Yasser or Ricky or somebody else says he's hitting it further than he's ever hit it in his life. And then he comes out and he plays one or two events and then he walks off the golf course with a bad back. Well, that's because of his motion is re-injuring his bad back.

So unless he's changed his motion, he's likely to re-injury his bad back. Now then, if he's changed his motion, right, that's a good thing. But the bad part is every single time he's ever changed his motion is taking him two years to adopt the motion. even when he was young and healthy when he decided to change his golf swing in 97 he didn't play like we think he should play

until the end of 99. Same thing in 2003 and 4 when he decided to change his golf swing. Same thing when he decided to change his golf swing in 2010. It took him until 12 and 13. So he's now older, injured, and still, as far as I can tell, trying to work on a new golf swing with Chris Como.

Okay, that's three or four. I've lost count of how many hurdles that is. is. You're really killing dreams. Too many, too many hurdles, Brandel. Exactly. And then here comes the coup d'etat, right?

This is the coup d'a. The last time he still had the chipping yips that he played. So when you put all those others, even if all those others were of no consequence, even if he was great, he's still trying to save par four to five times around and chipping to make birdies two or three times around. You can't play at a hundred. high level unless you're brilliant around the greens. So, you know, that is a lot, that is a laundry list of things to have to get over. And if he does it, if he does it, you know, he's already

authored one of, if not the greatest comeback in the history of golf in 2013. But if he comes back, well, you know, this is, I don't even know what this would be like, you know, this would be unprecedented. There'd never be a comeback to match this one. So as a bit of a swing guru, Tigers posted a handful of swings in the last month or so. What do you think? Because I believe Hank Haney said, you know, it's not perfect, but he can win with that swing. Do you agree with this? What are your kind of your quick hitter reactions to what you've seen so far?

Well, the swing that he posted, I matched up with – because I know I've spoken to Chris Como, and I've read, you know, I think everything they've posted and go on and read Chris's post and so forth. They're trying to get back to Tiger Woods 2000 golf swing. You know, again, lots of hurdles to that. Tiger's arms are as big around as, you know, tires now. And they used to be as big around of Coke cans. So, you know, his chest is enormous, and it used to be wispy. So, you know, he's got hurdles to that.

But what I have seen is that, yes, his golf swing is at least from the down the line. I haven't seen it face on. But at least from down the line, it looks like. like he's trying to get closer to 2000. So, I mean, he's working with a very smart guy. I mean, Chris Como's a smart guy. And they have long ago all these people abolished this lean left ideology philosophy, which is what Sean Foley first gave him, which sent him down this rabbit hole. You know, Sean Foley has now adopted, or completely abandoned that methodology, completely. And so has Chris Como, because it finally...

dawned on them, maybe because I was screaming out of them every time I had a chance, but it finally dawned on them that this doesn't work. And so now they're all trying to move laterally. And when Tiger does that, maybe he's got a chance to swing like he did in

2000. So recently on Gino R. M. his podcast, Tiger was, you know, he addressed this little bit. He said, so people ask me, why don't you go back to your 2000 swing? He said, quote, I can't. My knees trash from playing that way. I can't do that anymore. I have to look for a different way. Do you think he's being not fully honest about

his swing here? Or, you know, do you think that's true? Because it sounds like, you know, if you're hearing that they are and it looks like they are trying to get back to the thousand swing, then it would seem like that's different from, you know, his reaction there. Yeah, well, I think plane-wise, they are trying to get back to his 2000 golf swing, which means more upright and more lateral movement. But, you know, yes, Tiger Woods snapped has left me violently. that didn't trash his left knee. I don't believe that for a second. Millions of people have snapped their left leg.

Sam's knee did it, and he finished third in a major when he was 62, and he snapped it harder than Tiger Woods did. So it didn't trash his knee. I don't know how he trashed his knee, probably working out with, you know, special forces. So the swing didn't smash his knee at all. Does he have to swing around various injuries? Yeah, I would imagine he can't move this way because of that injury and that way because of this injury and that way because of this injury.

So again, all that is why he has to make probably a million compensations. And when you're trying to make those compensations, it takes time to incorporate them and to then go out and play with them. So, you know, I'm very bearish on him going out to play. You mentioned the size of his arms. You might not actually have an answer to this, but what is his obsession with being, a huge chest and huge arms.

It seems like we should have been past that by now. But every time he talks, he talks about how he works out seven days a week, two times a day. Right. I guess because he wants to look good at the beach, you know, that's all I can come up with. You know, our world is obsessed with superficial muscles, right? I mean, big pecks, big biceps, big lats. None of those really have anything to do with great speed in the golf swing.

It's the inner myofascial muscles. you know, the soazes, the QLs, all these little, you know, inside muscles that are, you know, attached to, you know, all the parts that move that are more important. And beyond that, your form is more important. You know, Tiger Woods never swung as fast as he did when he was, you know, 20 years old and a twig. In 1996, he averaged 346 yards off the T at Augusta National. In 1997, he averaged 323 yards off the Tia to Augustin National. You can almost measure the absolute decline in his speed and power with his increase in physique. You know, when he was sinewy and wiry, he was quicker.

As he got bigger, he got stronger, but he got slower. I have no idea because every single thing he's done in the gym has hurt him. other than the fact that maybe it makes him feel like he deserves to win because he spends time in the gym. So I'm sure there's some placebo effect to what he does, and there may be then some intimidation effect in his physique, standing in front of people. But, you know, any more, they all look like speed swimmers on the PGA tour. So, you know, he's changed. He's beautified the PGA tour immeasurably. They used to look like plumbers, you know.

And now they, you know, now they look like, you know, speed swimmers. So, you know, one of the most common reactions whenever I write something about, you know, Tigers, Tigers coming back, he's playing again, et cetera, et cetera. People always respond with this notion that there's no way he can compete against the new generation, that golf's deeper now than it's ever been. You did a really interesting job I thought on, I believe it was Shane Bacon's podcast, who we've had on before, front of the program, about kind of dispelling this notion that, you know, the current tour is deeper and better than it's ever been. Just kind of talk about that a little bit, you know, where maybe you think this notion comes from and, you know, the fact that it's, in your opinion, not true.

Yeah, well, I mean, if Tiger Woods does come back and play with any semblance of the game that he had, and again, I hope he does, you will annihilate this generation. Annihilate them. Absolutely annihilate them. have a chance. Talk to me. Talk to me, Brandel. Talk to me. You know, when Tiger Woods played his best in 2000, he averaged 67.79. In 2007 to the

hundreds of a stroke, he averaged 67.79. In 2008, he was injured, and he averaged 67.66, six, I believe. You know, the very best, the very best anybody averages now is 68.9, I mean, eight high. You know, I mean, he's, he's miles better than, and that's when, I mean, someone has a freak here. Mostly it's 69.5 to 69.2. You know, you know, win percentages now, you know, Tiger Woods win percentage was 25% on average. over the course of his career, but when he was playing great, it was 35%. You know, Tiger Woods is miles better.

And the reason why we always say golf is way better now than it ever was, I mean, yeah, a lot of things are better about golf. You know, as I said, the golfers are better looking, you know, they're better athletes. You know, the golf courses are prettier. Equipments better. A lot of things that are better about golf, but their play is negligibly better. And I could explain away the better play by, you know, hitting the ball nine miles longer and better agronomy. You know, golfers today are 0.3 strokes, 0.3 tenths of a stroke better than they were 20 years ago.

So, you know, we love to bestow originality on whatever's present, you know, as if it's the greatest best ever, whatever it is. But it just doesn't stand up to the scrutiny, you know. I believe that the worst players on tour are better than the worst players were before, but the best players are not as good as the best players were before, in my opinion. And I think that's because they're impoverished in a lot of ways, but mostly technique. You know, their techniques just worse than it used to be at the highest end. You know, the worst swings are better, but the best swings, or worse than they used to be.

So you've, you know, you've talked about this quite a bit, the, um, sort of the, the ages of teaching and how it went, uh, south, in your opinion, sort of all throughout the last generation. Do you think it's sort of, you know, do you think you talked about, uh, Sean Foley, getting away, uh, from certain aspects that you thought were detrimental earlier? Do you think they're starting to move kind of back towards the right direction a little bit? I do. I, I do.

I, I think there is. some movement there. Like, you know, this movement of leaning left has been, you know, completely shot out of the water as ridiculous. But that move, because of its marketing, you know, led to all kinds of cults in the teaching world. You just, I mean, people will believe anything if somebody says it well enough. And so, you know, teachers will, players will, amateurs will, pros will, I'll believe anything. You know, this whole facade of restricting the lower body movement is just a lie. It's just based upon nothing, no fact, nothing.

It's purely based upon whimsical analysis that doesn't stand up to a shred of scrutiny. But tour players do it, you know. Like I go through and I watch Ricky Fowler Swinger Golf Club. It's beautiful golf swing. He's marvelously talented. Hell of an athlete. But his left leg looks like somebody has hammered, nailed it to the floor. His left foot is nailed to the floor.

And no other athlete, if left alone, he would have never done that. No athlete would do that. They don't do it in anything that involves a weight shift and trying to find power. So they're left to sort of rely on other movements of their body that have to be much more violent. So I think the current move is still impoverished, but they're getting closer to it because they're real, that they have to move laterally. They've got to get, you know, the teachers today have all these fancy words for it, and they're just, you know, they can't quite get their arms around the body movements

to match what they're seeing in their technology. But basically, they're getting the idea that you have to move to the right, which really falls under the category of, duh, to me. But it took them, you know, forever to come to this conclusion. You have to move to the right. You have to get momentum going away from the target when you start your swing and towards the target when you start your down. So they're getting that. And they're also getting that strong grips and shut club faces are not bad things. I mean, those were always taboo. You can't do that. And, you know, almost every single player that's won a major or the majority of them anyway in the last 30 years had a 40 years has had a shut club face. So, you know, they're, you know, the modern high capture rate of video and the YouTube, you know, proliferation of it is.

is educating teachers. But more importantly, it should be educating players. Because, you know, players need to turn around when somebody tells them something that's ridiculous and go, well, you're just wrong. And I think that's beginning to happen. So you got into it with recently with Billy Horshaw. I have been, I have strongly disliked Billy Horshaw since Chambers Bay. I very much I could not stand

I thought he was whining, bitching, piling on we've had superintendents and architects on this show so I thought it was again piling on them unnecessarily all day Sunday he was bitching after every putt he bitched in his interview with Holly Sanders afterwards so I've hated Billy Horshaw for a long time fuck Billy Horshaw however

you posted a side by side comparison of Tiger Swing from I believe 01 versus 2013 you called him quote trackman drunk which is hilarious and I laughed. Portiaul responded he called you a ghost on the range. Are you a ghost on the range, Randall?

Yeah. You know, I guess when I call live golf, I go to the range and I'll set and watch the players. I don't interact with them much for several reasons. One, when I played the tour, I didn't really

like it when people came up and talked to me when I was practicing. You know, I I felt like they were lazy, you know. It was like sit behind me, watch, pay attention, read the transcripts when I speak in the media center. Again, I wasn't like any huge star, so it wasn't like I was always in there. But, you know, do your due diligence, okay? And then when I'm through hitting golf balls, you want to talk? Sure.

But when I'm on the range, you know, I'm working. So I'm appreciative of that space of players when I go on the range. So I certainly give them their space when I'm on the range watching balls. But beyond that, the reason, probably the primary reason I don't go to the driving range is, one, that voice is very well represented in my industry. Everybody goes to the range and talks to the players. Most everybody relies upon that information to come to their conclusions. I don't. I believe very little of what I read.

I believe not much more of what I see. I only believe what I look up and what I cross-reference, and if it then passes and doesn't violate my common sense, and then maybe then I'll adopt it. And furthermore, I don't want to go on the range and build friendships with these players or their coaches or their managers because when I go on the air, I want to be completely objective.

And it's very hard to do that. I want to be able to say, you know, wonderful things about people that, you know, I probably wouldn't like and say critical things of people who I probably absolutely love. And to do the job right, the way I see the job, it involves objectivity. And I think that that would be corrupted if I got to know the players. So, you know, that's the primary reason I don't go out there and chinwag with all the players. So, I mean, Billy Horshowell was basically giving you a compliment when he said you were ghosts on the range. Well, he said, you know, it was funny. I mean, I think if he went back and read his tweets, he essentially, his words not mine, called me the best of the business, said my colleague said the same thing, but then acted like I should change my preparation.

It's like, well, wait a minute. If what I'm doing is indeed, again, your award is not mine the best in the business, why would I change my preparation? It seems to be working quite well. You know, to go to the range, it involves a lot of time. You're going to spend two, three hours on the range. Well, that, you know, when I'm watching golf and getting ready for a golf tournament, you know, I am evaluating 50 to 75 players across every single metric available with video.

it takes a lot of time to do that. And then, you know, I can remember specifically setting on a set where an analyst, just to my left, had come up on the set, and he was all hot and heavy, and he said, Tiger Woods swinging better now than he ever has. And I looked at him as 2012. I was like, really? And he said, yeah, Tiger Woods swing better than he ever has.

And I said, well, it makes you say that. He said, well, I was just down on the range. I was watching him. I was talking to his coach, Sean Foley. And, you know, we were literally two seconds from coming on the air. So it went on the air and we did this first segment and he says, you know, Tiger Woods swinging better than he ever has. And, you know, I tried to bite my tongue a little bit, but I didn't do it very well. And then we went to commercial break.

Yeah, shocked. And then we went to commercial break. And I got on my computer. I was like, just, just bear with me here. I'm going to show you something. 2005, six, seven, eight, nine. First, first, first, first, first, first, first, first. 2010, 147th. Okay, I'll give you that because of scandal.

2011, 67, 2012, 47 in various important ball striking stats. So I'm like, when you say he's swinging better, what are you implying better than what? Better than 2010? Okay. But better than he ever was? Because you didn't like the aesthetics of it under Hank Haney? And the reason it hit me then, I mean, it hit me many, many times before, but the reason he was so hot and heavy about Tiger Woods Golf Swine is because he'd just been down there. And he was being biased by his relationship and his conversation with Tiger and Sean. And also by aesthetic prejudices, which are prevalent everywhere. And I try not to be seduced by them. So, you know, that's why I do the job the way I do it.

And there are plenty of people that do it completely different than me. So, you know, when it's all said and done, I think we come at it from 360 degrees. And I think our viewer is served by that. The best in the biz don't get there by flirting on the rain. Yeah, there's only one of those, and that's Brinley-Shabli. Well, I met my wife flirting on the rain, so let's not completely, you know, dispel that. Okay. Fair.

There's positives and negative. There's positives and negative. So I have a bet with a buddy that next year, Jordan Speath will win more majors than Justin Thomas. Obviously, one year is too small of a sample size. So over the next 15 years, who do you think wins more majors, Speeth or JT? Great question. And it's wonderful that we get to debate that because they're both amazing. But Jordan Speeth will win more majors.

You know, winning majors at a very early age and winning by wide margins is the greatest predictor of the greatest players who ever lived. You know, it was true of Gene Saracen and Bobby Jones and Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods. It just, you know, and it was true of Rory McElroy. He changed. I think Rory, one, he's suffered some injuries because I think he's, in my opinion, and Rory would differ with me on this. but he suffered some injuries, I think, because of the gym. And, again, he would differ with me on this. And I think he sort of fell off his form because he sort of went away from his putting technique.

But Jordan Speath is not going to be seduced by going to the gym and markedly changing his physique. And he hits the best irons in the game, much like Tiger does or did. And he's got a marvelous short game. So I think Jordan Speeth will, you know, he's got a chance to go down as one of the greatest players ever. So people talk all the time, you know, they focus on speed sputting. You know, first of all is his putting, I don't want to say overrated, but does it, does it, you know, overshadow the rest of his game because, like you just said, you know, he is the greatest iron player in the game today.

And I feel like that doesn't get near enough credit. Yeah, you're right. He is. And that's far more important than what he does. on the greens and the larger reason why he's he's so good. You know, again, we're in this era where all these players are taught to swing left and do all these stupid things that teachers try to tell him to do. And here's Jordan Spee, who swings down the line and up, you know, high, upright,

and he's just demolishing them. And nobody can figure it out. Why? And it's like, well, because he didn't listen. to all you teachers. That's why, because he swings upright and he swings down the line. So he does all these great things. And, you know, he's not quite the iron player that Tiger Woods was,

but he's, you know, Tiger Woods was eight feet better than tour average on proximity to the hole when, you know, like a foot would separate 80 players, you know. He was eight feet better, you know. And Jordan Speath is, you know, three, four, five feet better than tour average with, you know, through irons, various irons proximity, key iron shots. So he's, you know, he's along the lines of Tiger Woods, just amazing with his iron, so he gives him all these great looks. And he's, like Tiger Woods, he makes a disproportionate number,

a much greater number of putts from, you know, 15 to 30 feet. So, you know, he gets it done that way. But, you know, he's not a great putter from four to eight feet. But really, nor was Tiger, you know, Tiger wasn't the best putter ever from four to eight feet. You know, part of why I think Jordan's feet is not a great putter from short distance is, you know, he's got, you know, he's got a tendency to sort of get short and quick. And on the longer putts, you know, I think he has a, he does a better job of releasing the putter on his short ones. His left hand sort of gets, I think, out of sequence and gets too far, gets a little bit too much forward chaplain. but it hasn't held him back.

And by the way, he's the best chipper, you know, one of it. I mean, he's just amazing, you know. I mean, just the contact he makes, it almost hurts your ears. I've never heard anybody hit chip shots that are louder than Jordan Spee's. And then, of course, you know, it's the intangibles that he has. You know, he's got a great maturity about him. And maybe it's because he has a technique that allows him to not constantly. concentrate on technique that he can think about all the things he needs to think about, you know.

So many players are deluge by technique that they're thinking about that. And they cannot think about then all the nuances that you have to think about, you know. It's like it's, it's, think about it. You know, when teachers, there's so many teachers out there and there's so much technology out there and information out there, it's the apocalypse of imaginative powers happens. when you start thinking about technique and outside things, but this sort of quiet, this inner calm happens when you're not. And that's where Jordan is.

He plays in a space where very few people get in this era because they're just deluged with technical thoughts. So we talked a little bit of Tiger already. We'll kind of close out with a little bit more Tiger talk. Do you think Tiger ever wins on tour again? No, I don't. And again, I hope I'm dead wrong. And I hope, like a year from now, you guys ask me to do a podcast and you throw it in my face and you run this clip and you, you know, you make faces at me.

I will. I do. And, you know, I hope I'm wrong. You know, I hope he comes back and he wins. But the hurdles are, you know, they're monumental that he's got to get over. And I just don't, you know, we haven't even talked about the addictions that he's dealing with, you know, that have become more and more obvious that, you know, I've read and watched. And, you know, has he spent enough time dealing with those addictions? From what I've read, no, he hasn't.

So, you know, there's just, you know, there's a lot of things to unpack here for him to go out and play like. Dustin Johnson and to play like Jordan's feet. But the whole golf world is pulling for him. Do you think there's any truth or validity to the theory that, you know, playing golf would be a part of if there's any addiction or if there's any other BS going on that maybe golf is what's missing and kind of leading him down this path of he's got a huge vacancy in his life where he hasn't? I think that's a valid point.

I could find some, you know, it wouldn't be that hard to sort of grasp that, I think. You know, there is, there's therapy and work, no question about it. And, you know, maybe there's a deep sadness in him. You know, now then we're kind of guessing, but, I mean, we're not guessing about the addictions. I mean, those we've, we've read about, we've seen the results of them. You know, so, you know, we guess a little bit about, you know, the extent of his injuries and the extent of his rehab and all these things, but we know they're there. We know there's injury.

We know there's rehab. We know he's changing his golf swing. You know he had the chipping yps. We know he's had addiction. And those are, I mean, to think that somebody's going to come back and deal with all those successfully and then find, you know, order out of all that chaos, that's just, you know, that's a script that I couldn't write. Let me ask you this. We hear the word yips all the time.

You know, you've referenced tigers chipping yips. To me, it feels like a very vague term. So, you know, what, I guess, more specifically, would you look at evidence-wise from what you've seen over the last couple years of tigers chipping issues that makes you point at it and say, you know, chipping yips, which, of course, have the stigma of, you know, you're kind of buck forever. Yeah, well, you know, putting yips, people have been able to. to overcome that because they can so completely change their technique that they can trick their muscles to and work in a completely different way.

The Yips basically are, and again, there's technical names for this that you can Google and find or sort of dystopias or whatever they are and people study them and they still argue about what they are, but just think of them as a spasm literally. It's some lack of communication or overcommunication between the brain and your muscles. And you spasm. And it manifests itself in just horrible ways when you're chipping because you have to be so precise. You know, when you're putting, the putter's not touching the ground. You know, you're waving it above the ground.

But when you're chipping, you have to have precise contact between the ball and the turf. And if you're playing a shot, particularly, you know, counting on a particular type of contact and you get steeper or more shallow, then you get a completely different shot than you were anticipating. And it is the anticipation of that irregular contact that further enforces and causes and brings about the anxiety when someone's dealing with the chip says. As I say, it's not necessarily the yipped chip that gets somebody. It's the thought of yipping a chip. So the chip that was going to be two feet is now five feet. And the chip that was going to be five feet is now 10 feet. But just in general, there is a statistic on the PGA tour called SAG, you know, shots around the green.

And it measures how closely a shot, you know, someone chips a ball to the hole. Like the very, very best on tour that people will lead for a year will average five feet, ten inches, say. 11 inches that's extraordinary under six feet the tour average will be you know eight nine feet uh tiger at his best was you know six feet and change right uh at waste management phoenix open a few years ago he averaged 32 feet like the very work the very worst will average 10 feet like the worst like those guys are awful and like going to end up off the tour because they can't chip it any closer than 10 feet and the difference between between how many puts you make from five feet and ten feet is enough to make you leave the tour.

Like you can't stay on tour. And he averaged 32 feet. And when he played at Wyndham, that was his last top 10 on the PGA tour in 2000, what was it, 16? Is that right? 2016 or 2015, into 15. I think it was 15. That was his last top 10. He was 36 whole leader.

And then, you know, everybody, you know, they would, you know, he's tweeting me. he doesn't have the yips. I'm like, yes, he does. And then on the weekend, he, you know, bladed and fatted and chunks chips over and green. And then he played last year at the hero, the same event he's going to play. And, you know, he missed so many greens with wedges. He would hit him long, he would hit him short. He hit some decent chips, no question about it. You know, it's not that you yip every single one of them. I mean, sometimes you can sort of fool yourself into relaxing or you have a lie that's down grain or it's setting up in the rough, you've got wiggle room under it.

But inevitably, you're going to end up in a situation where you have a tight lie with grain into you, and it will cause anxiety. Whereas, you know, Ricky Fowler is playing with you, and he's got it in the same line. He's over there, and he can't wait to hit this chip because he's going to show off, and he's going to hole it. And that's the difference. So that is, you know, that's the yips in a nutshell. Again, it's not the yip that kills you so much.

It's the thought of the yip. So when he showed up at Augusta with the headphones in and he was bopping and doing all the chipping, that did nothing for you, huh? Well, it told me that he was definitely trying a different technique to get over the YIPS, that he was trying to, as best he could, eliminate tension. Right.

So that was an all hands-on-deck emergency situation to eliminate the tension of the Yps. But, again, if you watch the shots that he hit at Augusta National, the very first pitch that he had was, He missed the green right on 11, and the pen was down by the water, and he hit a semi-full-out kind of flop. Okay, even when you have the chipping yips, everybody can still hit flops, okay, everybody. Because it's a different technique that is not susceptible to the yips, because you're fully releasing from the top and trying to, you're releasing your wrists as fast as you can. And you're using the bounce, and there's a tremendous margin of arrow when you're using the bounce.

So, everybody that has the yips can still hit flops. It is the simplest of chips where you have a tight lie and you've got about eight feet of rough between you and the green. And then the green, you know, you've got about, you know, 10 feet to the hole. That's where, you know, Ricky Fowler is trying to hole it. You know, everybody's trying to hold that chips that plays the tour. But those that are struggling and Tiger in particular, will have a very hard, he'll hit at 10 feet, he'll hit at 12 feet, he'll hit it at 15 feet. And people say, well, he didn't yip it.

I'm like, well, okay, he didn't chunk it or blade it, but nor did he get it up and down. And that's what I'm talking about. So what would you need to see then from our guy Tiger next week that would make you say, you know what, he might be able to win again. This is not what I expected. Right. Well, I would need to see a lot of things. I would need to see him first and foremost hit and, you know, play all 72 holes and have tight lies and not putt, you know, and hit chips, you know, and have awkward lies and not putt. Because, you know, he's going to the putter out of defense and he's going to a hybrid sort of pitching.

I need to see him hit all these difficult shots around Greens and hit them competently. And then, you know, beyond that, I would think, well, I would need to see him make a golf swing where he's not squatting and jumping. Because squatting and jumping, he'll re-injury his back very quickly. So if he's rotating, you know, if his spine is rotating back, and then he's got great rotation through the shot where he's not jumping up, he's rotating. with just the right amount of extension. Then I'll say, well, okay, now he can maintain that golf swing without injuring himself. And that, in a nutshell, I would go, okay, you know,

we're off and running here. You know, and now then it's just about incorporating the changes that he's making in his golf swing with Chris Como. And if I saw that, it would be very happy, and I'd be happy to say to the world that I was wrong. You know, I'm just, that's just my analysis. is I don't want him to fail. I want him to come back and kick ass.

Well, hey, before we let you go, I wanted to give you props on something. You have a very good Twitter account. You break down a lot of swings. There's a lot of information on there. I just wanted to give you props on your George Strait joke from the other day. I want more. I want more. I need more Brandl-Chambly joke tweets.

That's what I need. Wouldn't that be cool, though, if your dad with George Strait, he named you damn. You nailed it. Right there in your school, what's your name? Damn straight. I saw that tweet. I was like, all right, he's breaking down Tommy Fleetwood swing, and then here comes just an electric George Strait joke.

I loved it. Well, you know, I'm not always a geek. I can occasionally have a cocktail and be ridiculous. That's why we like you. I'm headed in that direction in just a minute, by the way. Good man. There we go. Good man.

Well, folks, you can hear Brando break down. whether, you know, Tiger, Tiger's still absolutely screwed or not. On Golf Channel, best analyst in the game. Brandl Schambly, a recurring guest now on the podcast. Thank you, guys. Enjoyed it. You got to love Brandel Chamblye, hey there, Trent. What a great guy.

I'm really, all I want to do that whole interview was ask him about that George straight joke, and I got it in there, and he seemed very proud of it, and I'm proud of Brandl for that joke. Yeah, I was pumped when I saw it. You're right. It's mixed in with all of these, you know, these side-frey. by side takes between Tiger's old swing, Cochre, all these different takes, hot takes.

Shambly's the type of guy who will tweet at three in the morning breaking down some sort of swing and you're like, okay, that's cool. But then when he just sneaks in just a little joke, I'm here. I told him and I hope he takes it to heart that I want more Brandl Shambly jokes on Twitter. So hopefully he obliged it.

Yeah, Brando, this is a little test if you're listening to the end of the show. Sneak in more of those George Strait type jokes. Those are absolutely electric. It's nice for him to mix it up to you. Like you said, You can tell all these different golf swing analysis, hot takes, or so ingrained in his brain and he's slaving over him all day at night, writing his books, and he just has to put them out on Twitter. Boom, sneaks in a little George straight joke. And I would imagine I didn't do the research on it, but it looked like that tweet, the George straight tweet got pretty good traction in terms of retweets and favorites.

Yeah, so it did well. So, I mean, every time you switch it up and hit people with something they weren't expecting, usually does well. So more jokes from Brandl. Folks, we have updated the Barstool app. It is unbelievably refreshing. Things not only work, but they look clean. They look sharp. They look good.

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I'm excited. I'm nervous. You know what I'm really fucking nervous about now? What? That first bladed or chunk chip that he hits is career over stuff after what we just heard from bandleshamming. That's what happens. We're obviously going to get more into it next week, but the peaks and valleys of a tiger return, every shot is,

it's over. Oh, no, we're fine. Oh, it's over. That's how it's going to be. Somebody in the office, there might have been all biz peter. Somebody walked by me last week and was like, once you had to close your eyes and imagine Tiger Woods hits a tee shot

and then grimaces and grabs his back and can't pick up the tea. That's so mean. And I was like, I was in tears. That's so mean. But, yeah, so we'll be talking about that all next week. I think we might have a couple of good guests lined up.

We'll see about that. But yeah, should be a big week we are going to do the throwback episode but when we get guys like brando we had gill hands last week those are just too good guests are just too good we got to crank through normal shows but throwback week probably going to be done sometime during December yeah which is going to be better i believe during the holiday season uh christmas time and all that we can throw it back really hit those nostalgic feels yep