Fore Play - The 15 Million Dollar Handicapped Finale, A Fascinating Phil Tweet, & Snakes On A Course
Episode Date: September 3, 2020The tour finale is here. Dustin Johnson will tee off 10-under par and the winner takes home $15M. It’s an interesting week to say the least. Speaking of interesting, Phil dropped a praising-Tiger tw...eet from the clouds. We discuss all this, Jack’s 5.6 handicap index, a match play major, deadly snakes on the course and much more!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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We got the entire squad.
We got Trent.
Frankie's in the car right now.
We got Lurch.
Jake and Ebug are our producers.
Thank you guys for your hard work.
Gentlemen, hello.
Frankie, is it, are you going to be safe driving and zooming at the same time?
Yeah, I'm practicing good driving techniques.
Can you be arrested right now?
know I don't think so.
I honestly, I mean, maybe, I mean, keep my eyes around,
blinking, as you just heard.
And maybe I could be arrested for a wearing AirPods while driving.
I think you're not allowed to, like, impede your hearing.
Is that the word I'm looking for?
Could you be arrested post-podcast?
No.
I got too many PVA cards.
There you go.
No, I don't think he can get, I think it'll be okay, Frankie.
If you're not, then we're just kidding.
You're not actually in the car.
You're not driving.
No, I'm driving mentally.
I'm driving amongst the hills of my brain.
Wow.
It's a dangerous place.
Anyways.
It is a dangerous place.
Anyways, tour championship week, the finale of the season that kind of never was and maybe
half was, starts Friday because of Labor Day weekend, so it ends on Monday, which
is weird, always trips me out.
Huge payouts in this thing, you know, how much you buy into or don't buy into the FedEx
Cup.
that's kind of up to you.
We can debate it forever.
They just threw money at something
we're trying to make it important.
It kind of worked.
And obviously, the big names have always played in it
whenever they can.
Tigers wanted a few times.
So clearly, it's a big thing.
It's a big deal when it comes to non-majors.
This is one of those weeks.
That's huge.
It delivered two years ago the moment with Tiger Woods,
which watching that clip pop up.
I think it was Scratch TV who put that thing up.
I mean, it gets you every damn time.
It starts with Rory actually being like,
holy shit as he's watching all these people fill in behind Tiger Woods walking up the
72nd hole at Eastlake two years ago and so you know we're getting the clip with Tiger and
with Phil Mickelson when Phil says you know all right all right when they're introducing
tigers nine million wins that he had on the first tee so it's that week we are all very familiar
with this week and then we've got a lot to get to on our own front we've got the travel show from
Australia if people recall we went there a long time ago we were there in December we filmed
I think we have probably five episodes from Australia of the travel show to come out.
The first one, Kingston Heath, is out.
We talked about it a little bit on the show, I think, within the past month or so.
But boy, our memories were, I couldn't remember shit when EBOG was trying to ask me,
and I'm usually probably one of the better ones.
And then watching you guys not be able to remember anything was, it was fun.
I would say you're without question the best one.
For sure.
Like if that's not close.
Trent and I did them pretty much simultaneously.
I watched Trent,
who is.
And then I was,
it gave me an extra half hour to rack my brain for anything in there.
And I had nothing.
Yeah,
I feel bad because it's been a running theme for me during these
Travel Series videos where I don't remember anything.
And Australia was the best example of that because as we talked about in the,
in the episode,
we had just gotten done traveling for 23 hours.
and then we went right to Kingston Heath.
But yeah, Riggs is usually the one.
Riggs has like a photographic memory.
He'll remember his shots at a golf course.
He'll remember all of our shots at a golf course.
So once you get to the point where Riggs is starting to get fuzzy,
the rest of us are just completely fucked.
Yeah, it was two years ago too, right?
Like it's like it was, it feels like it was 85 months ago at this point,
especially with the pandemic.
And while we've all been home quarantining this year has felt like two years in itself.
So the fact that we went to Australia,
only in December is insane.
Do we wish that this came out faster?
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, like that would have been a perfect world.
But with everything happening,
there was people all over the world.
We couldn't get footage to everyone.
And it slowed up the process.
It's not the worst thing that's ever happened.
And I'm really happy to see it coming to light now.
And it's actually like we're watching it.
When we watch it on YouTube,
it's like watching the trip for the first time almost.
It's like you're reliving the moments
because I don't remember anything.
I can't believe I look the way I look.
just like completely clean-shaven no little like 14-year-old mustache.
I'm wearing these glasses and a hat.
I looked like I was on another universe.
That was crazy.
I mean, there was one like clip in the pro shop where I just,
I'm not wearing a hat and I just had some hair, which is.
Yeah, right.
We were different human beings.
Those are different people.
And I, yeah, you're right.
Like we, it's been so long for us, too, that I didn't remember any of the shots,
watching the clips. I was there.
That's such a unique experience because typically I remember a lot of the shots that
things come out relatively quickly.
So people do understand behind the scenes because I don't think most people really care,
but a few people were bitching about how it didn't come out soon or whatever.
So for those who don't know, we had Andrew was there filming, who's an awesome guy.
He got shortly after he started with us, he got an unreal opportunity in Chicago.
So he took that.
So then when we hired EBug, EBug had to not only spend all the time,
editing the Pioneer's Travel Show.
But in order to do that, he has to watch it all first.
Like, when you're there, you sort of have the storyboard and the storyline in your head
and you remember what happened and what didn't and you can take notes and you're pretty prepared.
When you literally didn't even work for us, like Bug has to watch everything.
So he has to actually relive the whole experience over the course of several weeks plus drone footage
and then get to the editing on top of, you know, we're doing two podcasts a week.
We got a dozen promos or so.
We put out videos.
We do stream.
So it just takes time, coronavirus, all of that.
I don't know.
We're in the office where we always get footage to each other within minutes.
It's impossible to get 40 gigs worth of footage via Dropbox and like have a running conversation.
I mean, coronavirus has made everything very tough.
I mean, I think we've done a pretty goddamn good job of getting videos out while we've been in different parts of the state.
It's like crazy.
I agree.
Credit to us.
Let's tap ourselves in the back here real quick.
Thank you.
Lurch, you good?
You had like a fan situation going on over there?
So first off, credit to the team for making it all happen.
Second off, yeah, so I'm in my dad's place and my brother and his kids are over and I heard the classic like boom and then tears.
So I was like, I mean, I know we're on a podcast, but I got to go sit.
Let's just make sure everything's okay.
And then my brother's trying to like put the kids down, do whatever because we're recording this, you know, at night.
And he needed a fan in my room to kind of give it some white noise.
I was just there to help quickly for those two minutes.
But everything's good now.
The tears have subsided.
So I think, you know, the family's back intact and everybody's okay.
I do want to say one thing about the travel series video.
What's up, guys?
It's EBO.
The only thing is that it's very evergreen content.
Like, there's nothing dated about it other than, like, maybe you're a better golfer now.
So whether it comes out six months ago or two months now, like, yeah.
Or like now, it's not like there's news in there that, like, people,
already know. So it's all new to everybody. And like you could watch you could watch it in a year from now
it would be the same thing. So that's all I'm saying. It just and it just doesn't it's really to anyone it just
doesn't matter. I do think it's sort of the behind the right like it just doesn't matter. But I do think
people enjoy the behind the scene stuff and understanding our process and that's essentially what happens.
So huge credit to bug I mean gone through watched all the stuff gotten like a feel and gotten
put, been able to kind of put his finger on the pulse of the videos and of what the series
was like, what the trip was like, and then convey that working with the rest of the team,
working a lot with Frankie, who does a ton of production with Jake to sort of get it right
and then present it in a way that we feel is authentic to our experience, even though he
wasn't fucking there.
It's incredible.
So we've got a bunch more of those coming out.
While these are coming out, it's also going to be U.S. Open Week.
we've got three amazing videos that we have shot that we want to bring out from that.
And we just have Jake Bass and we got eBug.
And those are our fucking guys that have to edit all that shit that we just talked about.
So they got a ton of work to do.
They're doing a great job.
And the video is awesome.
So big thank you to everyone that worked hard at it.
And I thank you to everybody viewing it.
I think the people like it that have seen it so far.
And we're going to keep rolling them out because they're great.
And it's also like you guys said, it's cool to experience them really for the first time.
Because I don't remember anything.
thing that happened on the other.
Oh, kind of unfortunate, like, that I remembered so little.
Like, at one point, they said, like, when Ebug was interviewing me or whatever for some,
like, quotes during the actual video, he was like, do you remember how it started?
Do you remember, like, any of the holes you played?
Do you remember you went, like, birdie, birdie to win the match?
I was like, nothing.
Honestly, not a thing.
I, like, remember vaguely the golf course, and really my takeaways are I couldn't believe how
firm the place was. And that might be my only memory other than like, yeah, we played with like,
you know, you four. Like, I think that's all I know. Yeah, down to the people. Like the people,
you know, the folks from Kingston Heath who worked there who helped us out and got us set up,
when I saw them in the video and the guy's like, do you want me to take your guys photo? And I was like,
dude, we had a real personal connection with that man. And I just forgot all of that. Like, I just
didn't know. I just like, that guy doesn't exist to me anymore. And that's a sure. And that's a
shame because they're great people.
You know?
It is amazing you experience things like that.
And like that photo, for example, that's one memory that I don't have.
I have nothing where I watched other things and I was like, oh, I remember that.
Like there was a conversation that Trent and I had.
I think I asked Trent, I was like, what do you think the other people on the plane are doing right now?
I like vaguely remembered that conversation.
But I know nothing of the photo.
I know nothing of some of like the interactions that happen.
it's amazing that it just it's washed away it's gone i can't get back and and we talked about the
flight coming off the plane i think that uh you know it was portrayed well in the video the next
few uh are even better i was talking with bug and with jake earlier about how i think that the
visuals are going to get progressively more stunning throughout the series uh with peninsula
the Kingswood and then we were down on at that dunes course where we saw where we had the match
with the Australians and then we go to fucking Tasmania of all places and you've got this blue
water with these mountains and these dunes and so it's just going to kind of get crazier and
crazier but the video's out go to our YouTube page check out four play golf on YouTube you can
now watch the entire uh North Carolina Pinehurst travel show you can watch the first episode
of Australia which is Kingston Heath and you can enjoy yourself
another way that you can enjoy yourself.
By the way, during this, I mean, I have to mention,
or else Frankie's just going to mention it,
that he pulled a transition from the car to his bedroom
and has just reappeared seamlessly through the conversation.
Seamlessly.
I am in two different states during this podcast,
like states of a being.
I was driving.
Like you said, you saw my background.
I had trees behind me.
I went off the screen for no less than a minute,
and I reappeared back in my normal state,
which was a,
it was a nice little move.
I mean, it's very David Blaine-esque,
not to bring in current world news,
but David Blaine flew on a couple balloons.
What do you guys think of that?
Impressive or not impressive?
Because I saw...
Not impressive.
Not impressive.
I mean, he learned how to breathe,
I guess, up in high altitude,
which is pretty cool,
but he was harnessed in,
and chef Donnie, shout out, Chef Donnie.
Chef Donnie skydise every day.
So it's like, what the hell is different?
I'll say, like, what I saw from Lucas
at the Barstville Classic
think it was more impressive than that.
100%.
I guess impressive to learn how to breathe
in high altitude like that.
Like he was breathing like a certain way.
Because he said it was like 40% oxygen up there
or something like that.
So you got to be able to like control your breath
and kind of whoop in at that point.
Like you got to learn how to breathe
and your heart rate and all that.
But you know,
you get a bunch of scientists build these balloons for him.
Like what are we?
Or is he an astronaut or is he a fucking magician?
Like I don't, that doesn't, you know,
I just want to.
He's done much.
more impressive stuff and I think this was more of like his daughter was there and he wanted to give
her like a wow factor he actually wanted to do it over new york city because he said he grew up
like watching like a movie or a show with his parents where like a guy would float above
new york city the manhattan skyline on balloons and he wanted to recreate that for his daughter like
live out his childhood dream he wanted to be the guy that flew over Manhattan with balloon and they
wouldn't let them i guess because of weather and like airplanes and all that stuff so they went out into the
know the desert.
Was it the Grand Canyon?
Like, they were in the middle of nowhere.
Somewhere in Arizona is where they were, yeah.
Yeah, so, I mean, it would have been cooler.
I would have been pretty jacked up had, like, we've been able to look out of our, like,
go to, like, the edge of New York City, look out and see a guy floating around balloons
or, like, look up in the sky when we were at work and see a guy with balloons and, like,
flying 30,000 feet.
The part that I did like is that from just from a distance, it just looks like a guy
hanging from a bunch of balloons.
Like, if you don't know about the harness, you don't know about the scientists,
You don't know about all that?
It's just funny that like a picture from a couple hundred yards away,
it just looks like the movie, yeah.
It looks like the guy just hanging from the balloons.
And I thought that was kind of cool.
But, yeah, I think he's done crazier stuff in the past for sure.
We have a guy that works at Barstall who is now Dave's like manager essentially.
He's like, he helps Dave.
He's like Dave's new guy, Kevin Bonner.
And he was Tom Brady's right hand man for years.
And he was telling us that like Tom Brady did something with David Blaine.
And David Blaine actually like completely blew their.
mind to the point where like Kevin was saying that that David Blaine actually walked to an area
of the house like and got just some random glassware out of Tom Brady's like cabinet and just ate
it. He ate the glass and like everyone was like well like what are you doing? He trained his mouth
to not bleed and swallow glass. His tongue, his mouth, nothing, his lips, nothing bled. He went
and nothing was done. Like it was all perfect. And they like went. And they like went.
back and check to see him.
So he just practices eating glass and like his tongue is, I mean, the guy probably can't taste food now.
It's probably just like a fake tongue.
Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
Back to being a magician podcast.
I like this.
Trent, I'm glad you put on the light because I was going to say, you know how you hate that your computer just reflects off of your glasses?
It was as bad as it ever.
It was.
You looked like a demon.
It was crazy.
Yeah, I thought that I could just, you know, do the podcast in the light of my laptop, but it got really dark, really fast.
and now I just, I'm back to being my normal, not great looking self.
Talk about being busy, by the way.
Like I was just driving.
Now I'm back in my little corner.
I have to set an event while we do this podcast for tonight,
Arsenal Golf Society, because I've been at work all day.
I haven't had a chance.
I have maybe 10 minutes to do it on three different platforms, PC, Xbox, and PlayStation.
So while we do this, I'm going to have to do that.
Wow.
So people are going to get a real-time look at whatever you fuck up in the setting.
and for this event, they're going to know and hear how it happens.
So it's very exciting.
Okay.
I think I'm going to do it at St. Andrews.
We need to come up with a name.
Which is a champion store?
I think that Trent said the Kilt, the Kilt Classic.
I don't hate that.
I love it.
What about the bagpipes open?
I think you could do both of them.
I mean, there's going to be another one tomorrow,
so I think you put two in the back pocket.
Okay, we got a lot of golf to talk about while Frankie sets up this tournament,
the Colt Classic or whatever, Kilt Piac.
See, we're going bagpipes open.
We're going bagpipes open because I don't like the cult.
Frankie, we're both at the office today, and I said Kilt Classic,
just because it was the first Scottish thing I could think of.
And then, like, five minutes later, he turned around and was like,
I don't think I love Kilt Classic.
I was like, it's because it sounds like a cult classic.
He was like, yeah, we'll think of something else.
We'll figure it out.
Shit.
I fell right into it.
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Okay.
We have, as well, we just had the Barstool Classic at Scottsdale.
It was great.
we had a our second i believe female has qualified kim and she is a professional golfer who plays
professional golf and a few people were chirping like oh i guess pros can just play now well you have to
realize that the winner of the barstall classic gets 10,000 dollars so by that very nature by winning the
tournament you just become not an amateur anymore so as long as you have an updated and legitimate
gin handicap uh you can just play in the barstall classic i don't care if you're fucking john rob and you're
like a plus 11.
Fine.
Come play in the basketball class.
You're going to have to give up a lot of shots.
That's fine.
That's just the way it works.
Anybody can play in the damn thing as long as you have a legitimate and updated
handicap.
Now, Scottsdale was awesome.
It was super fun.
True North is a really good spot.
Weather, it was hot, but not too bad.
They always talk about the dry heat thing.
That was pretty accurate.
And it went very smoothly.
It was fun.
Snakes were dangerous as fuck.
You got to watch out for the snakes.
At one thing.
At one point.
So the first picture that came out,
I actually at first thought was staged.
And it was a T-marker that had been set up, a T-back sign, and in the shade of the sign
was a gigantic rattlesnake.
And just next to the gigantic rattlesnake's head was a dead bunny.
And people thought, I thought at first that this was set up, this was just a real-life
occurrence that the pro at True North was just riding around the course, checking out the setup
process and this gigantic rattler had killed a bunny and then dragged him to the shade so that he
could in the shade enjoy the dinner where he then just swallows the bunny and eats it and that
that was not the only snake occurrence it turns out the next day we had two guys who were
we had two two teams they were driving by i think it was between the sixth and seventh holes and as they
drove by, a rattlesnake was coiled up in the strike position several feet off the ground
and his head was ready to strike and he was doing like the hisser thing.
And the, you know, the rumor is like if that fucking thing bites you, especially in like hits a
vein and someone else doesn't suck the venom out of there within like minutes, you'll
fucking dot.
That's what happened.
Like rattlesnake will kill you.
and I was thinking, like, there's no imaginable scenario where I'm suck, like, anyone's sucking
the, I think if someone gets bit by, if someone in this group gets bit by a deadly snake
and the answer is like, suck the venom, we're all just, one of us is just done.
Because I don't, none of us are capable of doing that, right?
I don't know if I'd suck the venom.
You wouldn't suck the venom out?
No, I've had to, but, I mean, would you know what to do?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What do you mean you've had to?
No, no, no, you would have to.
Like, you have to.
You said I've had to you.
I didn't mean to say that.
I meant to say, like, you would have to.
I don't know how to do it.
How would I even do it right?
I'd just be like.
Start sucking.
Yeah.
Wouldn't I put your mouth on myself?
Start pulling.
I go on my mouth.
I believe the way it works is that the, like,
toxins and things in your esophagus and in your.
saliva actually like fight and kill the dangerous part of the venom.
But if it gets into your bloodstream, your body can't, like your blood cells can't fight
that off on its own.
The really amazing thing is that we see these snakes on these golf courses and we continue
to operate that golf course.
Like I think as soon as you see a snake like that, and we saw a couple of in Tasmania,
which you will see in future travel series episodes, where it makes you just think, like,
let's just pack this thing up and never golf out here again.
Like the snakes eating and swallowing bunny rabbits hole on a golf course is a sign that says don't come here anymore.
But yet we still keep showing up and going to these golf courses and to the point where if you get bit, you have to suck the venom out of your friend's leg.
Like what are we doing?
Who was the first person to realize you got to suck the venom out?
That's my question.
That's a good question.
I'll say this
Who's a sick fuck that did that?
I saw some people saying
Like are they going to do something about the snake?
And I was like, well, no, the snake, this is the desert.
Like we're not supposed to be in the desert.
People are not supposed to be here.
Snakes are supposed to be here.
So like if anything, the snake is looking at like,
what are you guys doing with this green fucking teabog?
What are you guys doing?
Like, get out of eating my bunny.
Get the fuck out of here.
So the snake, that's like when, if you jump in the ocean,
or something. A shark gets you, like, we're not going to go take the shark. That's where the
shark lives. What are we doing? So we're out in the desert. They're just not supposed to be here.
We're like hundreds of miles from the proper type of civilization, like Manhattan Island, Long Island.
Those are places humans are supposed to be, and it's fine. The desert is not supposed to be out.
So clearly there's going to be crazy snakes and shit. And there's more wild life out there than I
could have imagined driving around this golf course. Like there were bunnies everywhere. And
everybody I saw, I just kept thinking, like, that thing is dinner.
Like, within the next couple weeks, that thing's gone.
Like, a giant steak was out there waiting to eat that thing.
It was fucking terrifying.
What hell was that?
Frankie, what's going on?
It was one of the worst things they've ever had to do, and I tried to hold it in,
but a really crazy fucking release happened, and I couldn't hold it.
I thought you were just getting,
visibly scared about the snakes.
No, it was, I tried to do a silent sneeze.
And to be honest, I was in a house upstate and it had a cat and I haven't recovered from it.
And I've been sneezing and we slept on a bed in which there's cat hair.
And it was a beautiful bed.
It was a beautiful place.
But I guess you just can't control the cat hair.
And I can't control my sneezing right now.
Sneezing has been a problem.
I guess I'm allergic to cats.
I never knew that.
I hate cats.
So I don't, I'm not around cats.
trying to avoid cats.
Yeah, so that's what's happening.
I really tried to go silent there.
Like you just go mute.
Like it didn't have time.
But I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to take away from that.
I really am.
I didn't want to take away from the conversation.
Oh, that's okay.
Another thing we were talking about handicaps earlier,
someone tweeted out of us that apparently Jack Nicholas carries a 5.6 handicap index.
They found this at near full of college golf club.
I mean, that just makes it impossible for us to win.
That's, what do you mean you care?
Like, he, Jack's, you tell me, Jack's posting his fucking score.
Like, Jack Nicholas, he's going out there, shooting like a sloppy 81 and posting his scores in gin at.
That makes me think that you guys would beat him.
Like, he's kind of closer to your.
He too.
Yeah, wasn't that right on what Riggs was, like, when we last recorded or was it a little lower than that?
No, it's similar.
I'm like a 5.9 right now.
So if we played a longer course where like the fucking 80 year old guy
can't hit it that far and we're a similar handicap,
I would have more of a chance than I guess I originally thought,
which is, again, crazy town.
It is interesting to think of Jack Nicholas having a gin
because he's Jack Nicholas.
Like we do it because we want to know where are we at?
Like how good are we at golf and this number represents how good you are?
Jack Nicholas knows because he's Jack Nicholas.
He's won 18 majors.
Like, I get that maybe as he gets older, he's like, I'm not what I used to be.
So what am I?
But if I'm Jack Nicholas, I don't even have a Jinn.
I just know that I'm Jack Nicholas and I continue my life that way.
I feel like that just speaks to how competitive he is.
Like, if he's keeping a gin, he's playing in all the tournaments.
I bet you he plays right to the 5-6 or whatever he is.
I think that almost gives me less confidence that I could beat him
because I bet you he plays that number to a T.
Yeah. And I saw a few people commenting, like, if Jack's a 5.6, that means when a real match arises, he's a zero.
He's going to just dust you. And, like, you know, when it's a hitting gig, he's talking around with his grandkids, like, yeah, he's posting those 81s.
When things get real, Jack Nicholas is making birdies left and right and dusting, you know how old he is.
So part of me was surprised to hear it and see it. Part of me also, now I get it. It makes a little bit more.
sense that like yeah he's a competitive fucker of course you can have a hate the cat uh Phil
Nicholson we're just kind of running through right now Phil Nicholson had to be on the vina
last night he was on something because he just tweets out on on Tuesday night uh dear tiger
this is just unsolicited out of fucking clouds tweet from Phil Nicholson dear tiger thank you for
all that you've done for this great game of golf no one has benefited more than me and I just
wanted you to know I appreciate you and all you've done that's all thank you
I don't know about you guys
Immediately I thought something was wrong with Tiger
It was one of the situations where it's like say something nice to your friends
While you still have a chance right
Like that's exactly what I thought and I was like holy fucking shit
Is there something going on with Tiger Woods right now
Because why is Phil Mickelson like using his platform to say like I love that man
Everything he's ever done everything I've ever done is because of him
Like that's like you don't know what you have until it's gone type situation
And I immediately searched like Tiger Wooden Google.
I was like, what's going on right now?
Correct.
No, I was the same way.
When I first saw that, it read like, Phil knew something that we didn't.
And I was glued to Twitter for the next 20 minutes waiting for a horrific bomb to drop.
But luckily, unfortunately, it never came.
So with that in mind, what the hell is going on with that tweet?
Like, that's something, something's going on.
Like, it's not, everything he said in that tweet was true.
everything he said about Tiger is true in that.
Everything that Phil has was elevated to a different level because of Tiger Woods.
All of that is true.
But why on a random Tuesday night in September did Phil Mickelson decide to tweet this out?
Do you guys think that it's just out of the goodness of his heart, which I don't believe?
Or is there something coming where it's like this is going to be a promotional thing?
I'm just very confused by the timing and the content of it.
Maybe he was like having a couple of V-nodes and he was like, you know what?
And maybe it goes back to my other point where he was like, you know, I've never really said this about Tiger and I'm going to say it right now.
Like, I want this on the record.
Maybe he's like sitting around with some pals at dinner and they're talking about Tiger Woods.
And he's like, I'm going to fucking thank this guy right now on Twitter.
And it's going to cause a big stir or whatever.
But at least I got it out there.
I got off my chest.
I can sleep at night.
Yeah.
I mean, I took it as like, I felt he was just sitting back.
I didn't definitely have a bottle of, you know.
Maybe he thought about an investment or the money he's made.
He's man, like life is pretty good.
and I'm just going to send him to the world
and thank Tiger because maybe he's on the back half of his career.
He's kind of just resting on his laurels
and just a happy camper of rocking those shades around his house
and maybe a robe and just saying,
hey, Tiger, thanks for everything because I don't have this without you.
It was like during a nightcap when one of the guys
is just like, I fucking love you boys.
Like you guys are the best.
You know, and it's just like, well, yeah,
we're the best right now.
We're having a great time.
And so for Phil, it had to be something, right?
It had to be, like, his agent texted him about, like, hey, that 15 million that we were hanging
on to from last year's this finally came through.
And he was just having a couple glasses thinking, you know, this is great.
And, you know, who do I have to thank for this?
Like, Tiger.
I don't know that I've talked enough about that Tiger guy.
What a guy.
I'm going to fire this tweet off.
And he just said it.
And it was out of the clouds.
And he even responded to a couple of people saying, like, no reason I just.
just kind of wanted to say it.
It could be a promotional thing.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know where I find a hard path to follow where that promotional thing would lead.
But either way, what's crazy too.
And Trent, this is the first thing Trent said is that everything Phil said in that tweet is absolutely true.
So it's a little ridiculous that we have this reaction to it because of how just true, like he just tweeted something that's true.
But you can't help it because Phil and Tynexie.
rival's.
You don't think that they love each other.
They clearly are very different people.
Phil's a little goofy.
Tiger's a fucking golf machine Terminator.
And here he is tweeting this out about Tiger.
It was very peculiar.
Yeah.
And I hate to be cynical sort of looking around the edges of the tweet, like looking for
the reason that it was tweeted out.
But that's just the way that I'm wired, I guess, now in 2020.
Something's got to happen with this.
There's something going on with this tweet.
And Phil's going to get asked about it.
at the next, you know, whenever he's got a microphone in front of his face the next time.
And we'll see if there's some, you guys are probably right.
He probably had a few drinks.
He decided he actually loves Tiger despite getting dominated by him for two and a half
decades.
But he wouldn't have, his house would be a little smaller.
His bank account would have less commas in it.
His cars wouldn't be as nice.
I mean, it's nice.
That's a reason to thank someone.
It just came out of fucking nowhere.
Nowhere.
But that's kind of feel.
Like, that's not not off-brand for Phil to just throw something out there when nothing's going on.
So I think that's like part of his M.O.
And maybe he was just bored and wanted to see the world go on fire in terms of social media.
And then he sent it off and it did.
I mean, and I do.
I picture him in a robe with a glass of Vino with his glasses on, just laughing and sending that tweet up.
I wonder what Tiger has to say about this and what I'll say about it publicly.
I'm sure Tiger loves it, you know.
And I think, like, it's, Phil wields a lot of power with his social media in the golf world now, which he knows.
And it could have been something as simple as his boys were kind of talking about it.
Like, Phil, isn't it crazy that we're here?
And he got to this point of like, yeah, and then the Tiger effect.
And then he probably felt like, what if I just tweet this out?
Like, this is a great conversation.
I'm just going to tweet this out.
And then kind of see what happens.
And we've all done that.
We've done that with, like, arguments with buddies where you tweet out, you know, what do you think?
on this or that and then it elevates the conversation and it gives you more fodder in that
conversation while this guy said that and so going back so it could have been as simple as that
but it just was so that is by that is clearly the second biggest name the second biggest star
of the last 25 years in golf who to everybody's knowledge the way the media had kind of built
it up over the last three-up tickets who sort of hated and had this fierce rival with the only
guy ahead of him who just sends out like an I love you man tweet to the guy out of nowhere.
It's just, it's incredible.
And it's true.
So I don't want to like, I guess it's weird that we're breaking it down this much because
it's just true.
No, I don't think we could spend three hours talking about it because it was a very strange
tweet.
I had a couple people, because I blogged it and I had a couple of people speculating that
maybe Phil is about to retire after he won his champions tour event.
People were really, people were trying to decode what it was because it was a very
strange and out of left field tweet. I do not think Phil Mickelson is going to retire anytime soon.
He's playing too well and he seems very healthy and able to perform for a few more years.
So, you know, I very much look forward to Phil answering questions in front of a microphone being
like, what was the reason for this? I know he responded to a couple of tweets, but I want to hear
in his own verbal words. Like, break us down that night, September 1st. Like, what the fuck is going on?
I hope he just says too, like, yeah, I was drinking this really, and he breaks down which bottle of line it was and sort of how much it was and then gets into, you know, so I was chabbing, but I hope he breaks it down that way because you know he's going to be prepared. Phil knows what questions he's going to get.
Right.
But it was a great tweet.
It was something that it will lead to much more, as we know, with Phil.
And they have such an interesting history.
I mean, Phil couldn't win a major forever while Tiger was just ticking up.
them off left and right. They were paired together at the Ryder Cup when they totally blew it
and imploded and Phil hits it up against like a fence and Tiger's just standing there staring at
them. Everybody thought they hated each other then. And I think it was Hank Haney's book
where it came out that Hank says that Tiger thought Phil was a complete phony. And so they've got
this whole history. Then they come together with the match and they're kind of like buddy,
buddy because they're all going to make millions and millions of dollars. So is that just
business ribbon? So then this to come out of the clouds.
it's just another interesting chapter in the Phil Nicholson and Tigerwood's side.
I'm trying to figure out a way he gets it back to coffee for wellness,
because that's his big thing right now, right?
Every opportunity he gets, every time he's on camera,
he's talking about like, well, it's all because of this great coffee mix of mine.
And he's talking about coffee for wellness.
I feel like somehow, although it doesn't seem possible right now,
how that tweet somehow leads back to a coffee for wellness promotion.
That would be my best guess.
My other guess is that he was just in his feelings after a few glasses of wine,
And he just felt like saying that.
Those are the two options right now.
Good for Phil.
The golf world's a better place with Phil having Twitter.
For sure.
100%.
It's wild to think that a year, a little over a year ago,
like Phil didn't even have Twitter.
Has he only been on for a year?
That's crazy.
Maybe it was two years because they were promoting the match.
Has it been two years?
Two years, yeah.
I don't know.
Time is confusing to me anymore.
Yeah, I think it was two years.
Yeah.
We were going crazy when he had it.
He was firing off stuff, liking stuff, going in the DMs.
Phil's been a really good Twitter, a tweeter.
We thought we knew he was going to be because he's got those zany jokes.
He's the dad of the PGA tour, the dad jokes, the thumbs up, the smiles, the quirkiness.
He does well on Twitter.
I mean, he kind of has blue balls.
He gives us blue balls all the time, liking stuff, comment on stuff.
To the point where we think, like, oh, we're going to get him.
We're going to reel him in, and then he's just gone forever.
That's his demo with us, though.
Phil's a sneaky little bastard.
Dude, it's been two fucking years.
He joined in August 2018.
All right, yeah.
Just over two years, yeah.
Yeah, that Tiger tweet has
126,000 likes.
Like, that's nothing to sneeze at.
I keep saying that.
What the fuck does that mean, man?
Everyone always says that shit.
Didn't we look it up a couple episodes ago?
Yeah, it's not just a Frankie fact.
I know, it's like a Frankie fact of nothing to sneeze at means like back in the day,
sneezing was a form of clearing your brain.
And it was known to be of the upper class to be able to sneeze on command back in
like a Renaissance day.
So like if something was not worth your time, it was nothing to sneeze at.
Right.
Oh, that's not worth my clearing of the brain.
That is just, what fuck does I even mean?
Who can sneeze on command?
That's just my saying now when I'm backed into something where I totally don't know what
to say, I just say nothing to sneeze at.
It's right now.
Dave says that a lot.
Dave also says you've been here for a cup of coffee.
Those two lines are, they've always been great in my head.
A hockey line.
You've been here for a cup of coffee.
Yeah, that's when somebody gets called up from the H.L or something like that.
And they're like a no name or somebody.
Is it a Boston thing to say?
No, I think that's a, it's a sports thing where, yeah, like you made the team,
you were up there for a cup of coffee.
You just weren't there very long.
Yeah.
I also feel like in the business world, like when you start out,
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So if you've only been there for a couple coffee,
it's like you've literally done nothing.
Yeah.
I mean,
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Money.
Talking a lot about money.
Tour championship.
Just going through some of the payouts this week.
Of course, DJ starts at 10 under.
We got ROM, we got JT at like eight at seven all the way down until you get to even par.
Then Kiz Tees off at one under par.
Once they tee off, there's no other BS.
You don't have to follow two different tournaments at the same time.
It's just whoever wins wins.
First place at this damn thing this year wins $15 million.
What?
It used to be 10, right?
And that was like a fake number.
15's laughable.
It's like, I mean, one guy's going to win this and just be like I retire.
Like it's been fun.
$15 million.
Can we please put in the audio from Austin Powers in there?
Do you think we need it?
You don't think they got the reference?
I think they got it.
I just want to hear it, though.
I mean, obviously they know the reference.
I just want to hear it.
I want to hear it.
You're not going to hear right now, though.
No.
No, when I listen back to the show.
Yeah, $15 million is...
I've always wanted to do that.
I've always wanted to call out for an audio clip.
We don't do that on the show.
You know?
Yeah.
Let me hear that.
that audio clip, you know, we should be able to do that. I don't think we've ever done that once
on this show. How many episodes have been on? Maybe once you've done it before. Maybe once
you've said like something media, the media. What? Like people, people saying something in like an
interview or something like. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, I was going to say,
I think Riggs has been like, you've just heard this audio, we're going to play it here, and then we
stop. But never like a reference clip. It's very odd that we've never once called out a reference. I don't
we've ever referenced a TV show, movie, song, nothing.
Let me say this.
That's wild.
Credit to me that when I have said those, you just heard this clip thing, I want people
know that you don't, we don't actually hear that clip.
We have to, in our brain, think about your experience and then speak like you just experienced
it, which is not easy for us.
Put that Dr. Evil clip in.
Put that Dr. Evil clip in where Frankie wanted it.
That one doesn't even fit.
Well, now we're doing it.
I know.
I just wanted to hear it.
I'm getting crazy.
crazy, I'm getting, I'm getting clip drunk now. Don't let me start this now. Don't get me going.
We're going to sound like, we're going to sound like local morning radio at some time.
Like, wow, wow, wow, wow. It's Tuesday morning. It's 8.30. What's up, Missouri?
What's the, what's the Parks and Rec one? Ira and the douche. Well, you know, it's, we're a big
reference. I feel like we're referenced people. It's crazy. We've never once put in
references. And you know why I've like off, I've wanted and it's in my brain and why I want to start
doing it? Because that fucking podcast, we had Brian Boggs on her on our show, an oral history
of the office. The way that he just pulls out things, he'll say something and they,
they fire in a reference that he didn't even talk about. And it goes. It flows. That's a great
podcast. Any office fan, which I am a diehard, which I think, I feel like it's like a hard old thing
to say now in 2020 when you like like the office, everyone's like, oh, you get that type of humor.
like a cringe comedy but I actually do I can't go to sleep without watching it I can't like I can't
lie about that like I do love the office it's a great fucking podcast I saw somebody somebody I saw somebody
tweeted it's somebody I follow I can't I'm blanking on who it was but they were like oh do you
watch the office and they quote the person quote tweeted and was like no I have a personality of my own
I don't need a show I think it was Colie Mick I he was like no I have a personality of mine I don't
need this show to inform everything that I do I love the office as well but like it is it has become the
show that everybody just watch on like Tinder you see all this like the memes from like
Tinder and like all these like dating apps and stuff where the girl will write like I love pizza
and I love the office like let's like let's have a night and I got just the two things that
everyone likes that's awesome so okay we'll put in clips put the clip in long story short
15 million dollars is just a ton of money is it I can never remember and I feel like I look
up every year. Do they get it in installments or does it, does it happen like it's a normal week on tour?
It should be cash. It should be cash. No, here's what kids, I believe kids told me this, that a small
portion of it, like so if you get the 15, maybe like a million or two, you get paid out kind of right
away. And then the rest goes into like an IRA account, which is actually, he loves, because they all
have so much money already that it just gains, you know, it gains without being taxable for forever until
they're old and take it out. So I believe it works on some sort of format like that. But
even for just teeing it up, you tee it up this week and you finish 30th. There's only 30 guys
in the field. $395,000. So our guy, Kisner, the human ATM machine who just keeps cranking
cash is now, I believe, 23rd, something like that place going in this week. If you were
finished 23rd, that'd be $466,000. If he just jumps a solid.
had 10 spots. He finishes around 13th. That's $660,000. If you finish second place,
that's $5 million. You get over a million all the way down to eighth place is $1.1 million.
So it's just a crazy amount of money that they're playing for this week.
Let me ask you. Let me ask you guys. Everybody's winning a lottery this week. Sorry,
Trent. No, no, it's fine. This is going, this is going in a different direction. But how much
money has Ian Polter made over the course of his PJ tour career? I know the number.
And I'm wondering what you guys think.
So, wow, I'm going to guess around a similar number to Kevin Kisner.
His is probably around 22 million now.
I'm going to say a little less than Kins.
So I'm going to say 19 million.
All right.
I'm going to say 14 million.
I'm going to say $35 million.
Okay.
The answer is 26 million.
So you guys were all kind of on the right track.
The reason I know that is because there was a video that came out earlier this week with,
with Polter, which most of us probably didn't see because he blocks all of us on Twitter.
I had to like figure out a way to watch the video because someone tweeted it at me and I couldn't see it.
So I had to figure out a way to watch it.
I log into a Barstall Classic account to watch.
That's what I do.
He has a block Barstall Classic.
That's a great way to do it.
But what the video was was he was chipping through the windows of his $2.2 million Ferrari.
and I was just beside myself because I didn't think he had the type of money where you can buy
$2.2 million Ferraris, but $26 million I think is that type of money.
I guess in my head I didn't think he had had that much success on the PJ Tour,
but he clearly has and he can, I guess, afford $2.2 million Ferraris.
And that just pisses me off to know it.
Well, the funniest 30 years I've ever heard of.
I have to watch it right.
he's just chipping through the windows of his $2.2 million Ferrari.
How does anyone hate this guy?
What else happens in it?
What else happens in it?
I was like, it's a Drake song in the background, I think.
But it's just him chipping through.
He's such a fucking asshole.
Like, you see that?
You see that through like minivans.
Like some like, you know, regular dad will, like, be ripping balls for his minivan
and break a window or just won't go right.
But Ferrari is a big FU to the world that's struggling.
He's $2.2 million dollar Ferrari.
And it goes perfectly because he's a professional goal.
alter but how much are how much is the most expensive Ferrari you can buy because that
sound point two million dollars would be my guess yeah is this is it get more expensive yeah
can't you buy like a pretty sweet Ferrari for like two or three hundred grain that's what I
thought so you tell me he's got one that's 10x like what hot and he must have invested it
incredibly well or something because if he's made 26 million on the course let's say he's made
another five or 10 like off the course even if he's at 35 million after taxes is that
like 17 or 20, he's going to spend, you know, 10% or so of that on one car?
Like, you can't.
And he's the type, he collects Ferraris.
That's like his thing.
He, you know, some people collect baseball cards.
Some people collect pogs.
You guys remember pogs?
Yeah, I do.
Oh, yeah.
And he collects, you know, high-end Ferrari sports cards, which is crazy.
Capitalism, baby.
He makes money and he spends it.
He's all the way that fuck you want.
I hope he dinged it up and bought a new one.
And like,
and threw that one in the trash.
I mean,
he's hilarious.
I love Ian Fultor.
He is the villain that no one knows he's trying to be a villain.
He's not trying to be a villain.
And he is,
he's that guy.
He's the bad guy.
He's the guy that walks him with his pointy hair and his visor on and his horrible
clothes and his crazy colors.
You're like,
who the fuck is this psychopath walking in here?
Look at this guy.
He parked sideways at the club.
the suicide doors came up.
He flicks the keys at the workers and says,
park this somewhere.
I mean, he's just, he's the bad guy.
How do you hate that guy?
He's hilarious.
I mean, like, how do you not respect what he does on the golf course
and what he does, like, I'm sorry,
what he does on social media?
How do you not think that that's very, very funny?
Because he's obviously doing it on purpose.
I'm not 100% of Coulter.
All I can really think about now is Pogs, though.
And whoever invented Pogs just created
cardboard, put them in circles, and then marketed it and made millions.
I mean, that person was fired.
What's the marketing thing, the scheme that they teach and it's like, it's like a rock
in a box or something is what they, there was one, there was some gift or something that
went crazy viral.
Pet Rock.
Huh?
Is it Pet Rock?
Yeah, I think it was Pet Rock.
There was a pet rock.
I learned about that in like microeconomics.
where like this guy just made a rock
but the marketing around it you had to get a
Christmas. Right and everybody got it
and it became like a gazillionaire
for just selling a fucking rock and like he just
sold millions of rocks that just
didn't cost anything but everybody had to have it
and it is like that's sort of the same vibe but
anyway I'm we're never going to like Polter because
he's a total dickhead but if you want to like him that's funny.
I think he's a dick too but he's fucking hilarious
like he's so funny. That is
is such a laugh out loud funny thing to say i know people hate when we say it but that is so
funny to be chipping through your fucking windows of your 2.2 million dollar for art that is so just
in your face i'm better than you i'm the bad guy that's he's shooting me gadman he's he's
walking around flicking up his collar being like hey whoa what do we got here we got more money
come on i'm starting on fire right he probably does he probably does more stuff like this that
we'd never see like the only reason i saw this like i said i got tagged in it but he's probably
making these crazy ass videos all the time, but we can't see because he blocks all of us.
Right.
Yeah, we don't get to do shit.
I got the society up, by the way, I'm a fucking hero.
It's crazy.
By the skin of my teeth, 759, the PlayStation 1 went up.
I believe the stat that I saw.
I'm trying to find it on Twitter, maybe somebody else, but somebody adjusted the numbers for
inflation of the earnings of like winning this week is 15 million the earnings the
career earnings of like Jack Nicholas Arnold Palmer or no I don't think it was
Arnold Palmer I think was Jack Nicholas and Greg Norman were two of the names that
made less than 15 million on the course in their career even adjusted like with
inflation so someone someone's going to win more than that this week DJ
tee's off of the two-shot lead. I think we talked last year a little bit about what you would need
to tee off with lead-wise to actually win and legitimately hold up in the tournament. I don't
remember what number each one of us settle on, but it's got to be around, you know, it's got to be
around 100 under par or something. Yeah, I do. We talked about it quickly, but I think it's 100 under
par because that gives you 25 strokes a day. I think it's somewhere in there that you need to be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
130.
Probably 130 for me, 125.
I got to be able to go 30 over par each round.
Right.
You're playing Eastlake from like 7,500 yards.
The rough's hard.
The greens are fast.
These guys are probably shooting under par each round.
Every ball has to go in the hole.
There's no, you know, there's no just picking it up.
Obviously, it's going to hole.
So, yeah, it would probably be around 100,
required at the start. And even then it would be intense. Like if you have a couple bad, you know,
holes right out of the gate, all of a sudden you're like, man, I'm only down to a 90-shot lead.
And like we're only three holes into this thing. It could get ugly fast. So let's say you have a 30-stroke
league going into Sunday. 30 strokes? 30 strokes that's going to come down at the 18th hall.
Yeah. Because they're going under part each day. So like if he starts at 10 and you only get 100,
it's weird to say only but then you really only get a 90 stroke lead they're going to finish at 20
so really you're like at 80 so now you got to beat them by 20 strokes every day or be better than 20
every day and like that's going to be close because you throw up like a 92 and you're right there
I mean kids gave me what like 25 strokes or something like that and absolutely just dusted me
yeah so it's like at that point like yeah do that four days in a row
row, if they give me 30 strokes each day, it's going to come either down to the wire or I lose
by a lot. Like, if I play well, it comes under the wire. We should play Eastlake one year, hopefully,
on like a Monday. And we should do this, but you get one day. So instead of doing like, you say
you need 100, you get 25 that day and then to see if we could be competitive from those distances.
I don't know. I don't think you should. Fuck it. No, they should let us do four days.
Four days for me. Because the four, yeah, the fourth day would be like,
exactly that's why you probably need more stroke that's true actually that would be if we did that
they're like all right now teeing off at a hundred under par like lurch and you come out and then the next day
it's like all right now 67 over or underpar it's like oh shit but yeah it'd be a lot it'd be intense too
with them chasing you just like watching your stuff beer would suck it'd be great like first tea
you just pull it OB and you just re-tee from there so now 100 under par it just picked that to 98
Yeah, it'd be tough.
Can you believe that someone starts at 10 under and at this tournament?
I still, it feels like it happened so fast.
Like they were talking about it as an idea.
We were laughing at it as they were talking about it.
And now it's our reality of the Tour Championship every year,
where a guy like Dustin Johnson,
who won a tournament at 30 under par a couple weeks ago,
is now getting a 10-stroke lead on people in the field.
It's just, it feels so, so strange.
to me still.
It's very good.
Time stroke lead on a couple people.
He's getting like two and three on most.
Yeah, but still.
But the fact that they got,
I hated it last year.
I mean, I hated the thought of it like before last year,
and I hated the thought of it when they came out
with this format.
But when you think about it,
if there's that much money on the line,
and it's the Torch Championship,
like this is like the finale,
you have to have some sort of
handicap system
like this guy's
or else like being in first
all year means nothing.
Right.
No, that's true.
You need something.
Like there's no benefit
aside from making more money each event.
There's no benefits for you being first or second.
Like you have to have some sort of handicapped system.
And I hate and I,
if you went back and listened, I hated this idea.
But now that you think about it
and now the money keeps going on, like $15 million.
I'm not going to answer the question.
slip again. But it's crazy to me that they would just have like an even playing field for that much
money. It's, it works. I would say now that we're here, like it works. There's the second that they tee off,
there's no confusion. There's not two different leaderboards you have to follow. There's not fucking
Steve Sands doing calculus on the side of the 18th green to figure out who the hell is going to win this
thing. It's just, it's just one score. So I do think it worked. It's a little stupid, but it just, I think
it just works. That part is true, Riggs. In the years past before this, trying to figure out,
like, this guy's going to win the tournament, but he's not actually going to win the Tour Championship.
That was a nightmare, like trying to do the mental math on that. So that completely changes with
the way they do it now. It's just strange, like, it's just strange watching somebody step up to the
first T on their first round during the first round, and they just have a 10 stroke. They're 10 under par.
It's just still strange, but it's fine. I guess actually, now, I think about it. It is, they've
always had an advantage of winning, right?
It's just it was more confusing to figure out.
Like, if you finish with first going to the Tour Championship,
you could still finish second or third and still win the Tour Championship.
Yep. Yep.
A.K. when Tiger won, who won the...
I think it was Justin Rose.
Justin Rose. Yeah.
I think he had a weird celebration where he was having...
Because of the points and stuff. Right. It was very strange.
Right.
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Okay.
New tour schedule changes, not that big of a deal,
but the, I mean, it's obviously a bummer of that.
The Asian swing is going to be put on hiatus.
The Zosos is going to move to Sherwood Country Club.
Tiger Woods will be the defending champion.
He's got a long history at Sherwood as well of winning tournaments there,
having the Hero World Challenge there for a while.
Then they're going to have the Shriners Hospital for Children open.
That's October 8th to the 11th at TBC Summerlin,
which is a pretty normal.
CJ Cup is going to be then the following week,
which is going to be the 15th to the 18th of October.
And then the Zosso at Sherwood is going to be.
October 22nd through the 25th.
We've got Shadow Creek is where the CJ Cup's going to be now,
which is obviously where Phil and Tiger had their match.
So people will probably remember a decent amount of the holes in Shadow Creek out in Las Vegas.
But a couple schedule changes.
Nothing too, too crazy.
Anybody have anything to say on that?
Probably, again, not that big of it.
Okay.
What did you just say?
I just laughed because, like, no one had even a noise.
No one had even a...
I gave him silent now.
Yeah, it's not a needle mover.
That type of information for us, not a big needle mover.
It's like when the mink man comes in with a sports update during the Mike Francesa show,
it's the mink man, he just rattles it off.
It's information you need to know.
There's nothing, you're not going to comment on it.
You're not going to really, it's nothing to sneeze at, as some people would say.
Just, you know, it's information that the listeners need to know.
Right.
I don't think that's how you use that.
But, yeah, but Frankie is right, that it's,
When those tournaments do appear and they're not in Asia, you're going to be like, oh, yeah, that's right.
They said on the show that I was programmed in my brain to know now that the tournaments are in the United States of America.
I heard that, but they didn't need a whole discussion on it.
Scott, I said something so stupid today.
Trump, were you there when I use the bubonic plates?
No.
Good God.
We were talking about something moving.
Like something was moving crazy.
And I was like, ah, yeah, it's like their fucking boobonic plates.
I mean, everyone's like the bubonic plague or tectonic plate.
Which one is it like?
I literally looked at them.
I looked at Rudy and I looked at Nick and all everyone and I said, it's tectonic plate.
You just got to stop and just say, listen, I made a mistake, okay?
I made a big mistake there.
I said boobonic plates when I meant tectonic plates.
Those were two.
Well, I can't tell you how different those things are.
So different.
It's tucks because, yeah, bubonic plates are like the bubonic plague served on a plate, I guess,
or like the plates that you would touch, right?
Is boobonic, like, a term for, like, deadly or something?
Like, what does boobonic mean?
I just know that it gets paired with the plague, and I don't, it can't,
like, the effect that the plague has on people is not the same effect.
fact that bubonic can have on tectonic plates okay that's what i was going on like could i
somehow use it as like oh these are actually bubonic plates like if they do somehow move somewhere and
we all die the definition of bubonic is causing or characterized by swollen inflamed lymph nodes
in the armpit or groin so i'd say no frankie i know where you were going you were going with
Like if it just meant deadly or like catastrophic, it could work because the tectonic plates like smashing together leads to earthquakes, which is.
But it's just not, that's not what it is.
I mean, the fact of the matter is that the onic at the end just completely fuck Frankie.
Like he, anything with onic at the end, he was like, this is what it is.
And it's just not.
That's all it took.
That's all it took for Frankie.
It was onyck.
And he just thought they were the same thing.
Yeah.
And in the conversation, I was like, well, I'm going to hit it.
with like a crazy tariff here like take it because it had nothing to do with earthquakes nothing
i was like i was saying like this person was like moving and shifting like bubonic plates and
like they were like what what i'm like ah shit i tried to say something funny and was wrong
your face gets really hot that's the worst yeah somebody said needle mover um potentially 10
minutes ago and speaking of needle mover is that i think tonight was the night that they had the
Payne Stewart banquet. I just saw a clip of it quickly on Twitter. It was very nice. They actually
got people together and everybody was socially distanced and it looked really nice.
Zach Johnson was there in a very nice suit and during it, there was a video message from his
kids saying congratulations, dad, you're the best. This is a great honor.
Zach cried a lot on stage. I just wanted to give a shout out to that because it was a very nice
and touching moment for the family. Yeah.
Congrats.
That's great, Trent.
One of, I believe Payne Stewart's son, I think it was, played in one of the Barstool classics.
Really?
Yeah, and I didn't know until he just was gone, which I love, I respect.
But someone told me afterwards, and then we were busy and I just kind of forgot about it.
But I think Payne Stewart's son played at one of the stops and was very much unceremonious about
the fact that he's Payne Stewart's son and just played,
had a good time, and then just departed the event.
Wow. That's wild.
What the hell?
Marketing miss on our side for the class.
Wasn't there a speith at one of the events or something?
Jordan Spee's uncle played at Philmont last year in Philly.
That's what it was.
Super nice guy.
He's great.
Shout out to Payne Stewart's son flying under the radar.
And, you know, like we don't, with our,
with our,
with our team that combs through the names and the,
and the handicaps,
they're not,
like,
whoever could have gone over that section of it's not,
they don't necessarily have to be,
like,
plugged into golf in the golf world.
So they probably just had,
they're just like,
yeah,
Stewart,
and it's just a common name.
It's like,
right.
Stewart.
It's just that,
the name's Stewart.
Like,
how the fuck would you know that?
Yeah,
I was going to say,
I think I could read Payne Stewart's son's name and I wouldn't be like,
oh,
that's Ben Stewart's son.
Never,
a millionaire.
His name could be like Tim Stewart.
You're going to think like,
that must be the two-time U.S. Open winner's son?
No, I'm not going to think that.
I keep saying, Stuart.
I'm not going to answer to the clip because I don't want to get clip drunk,
but the Mad TV, Stuart, the big baby.
I've shown Trent this guy.
I mean, that is one of the funniest characters in TV history.
I mean, he just plays a big baby, and his name is Stuart,
and the mom's like, Stuart, don't go up there.
He's like, why?
Why?
It's reminiscent because you have to show me, like,
before. It's reminiscent of when they did it on
SNL when Will Ferrell came out of the womb as a
as a grown child.
Those are two of the best skits.
They're just very fun. And I also showed you when
SNL did
the baby boss. And he was just a
full grown boss. And all of a sudden he's like,
oh, let me get behind my desk. Let me come see.
And he like waddles over there.
He just has baby features and like baby like mannerisms.
And they're like, oh, like here you go, boss.
here's your pancakes for breakfast and he like smacks them and like rips the paper.
Very, very funny.
Aaron Stewart.
Aaron Stewart.
There is.
Aaron Stewart.
That was it.
So, wow.
Yeah, he looks like, yeah, I wonder.
Yeah, how did he finish?
Do you remember?
Yeah, he didn't qualify because I think we would have known that.
But I think he played pretty well.
Huh.
I think he's playing at Pinehurst.
Just nobody knows that Stewart's not.
That would suck if we just didn't know.
It would be a huge miss again, double miss.
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Tyler says, should the tour implement more match play?
Maybe a major championship?
Yes.
The answer is definitely yes.
I will say it's a very tricky thing to do, largely because there's no guarantee that X players will be there in the later days.
Once you do a match play scenario, you eliminate people.
You really get down to the last couple days.
You have four, eight people left maybe.
And if a lot of your big names lose on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, then for TV draw, for crowd draw, all of that,
you lose a ton of your power and your leverage and all your ratings going forward as a, as a,
as an event.
And so that, I think, is the driving factor that is not allowed more match play.
But it sucks because match play has to be significantly more prevalent with the average
golfer than stroke play or metal play.
I mean, I think almost all of us.
Hold on.
If I heard you correctly, you're saying match play in majors?
That was part of the question.
Part of the question.
But I...
Go on.
He's saying, should the person I believe they're saying,
Should there be more matchplay events and should potentially one of them be majors?
So I'm on the no side for majors, quick.
For sure.
I agree with that.
All right.
I'm interested to know where Riggs stands on that.
And then I'm a yes.
I think the PJ championship can do it.
Oh, that's interesting.
See, that's crazy to me.
But I am in for match play.
I just...
Because what if one guy just plays shitty as an opponent, right?
Like, when someone gets matched up with a guy like me out there, like a headcase,
just like you're supposed to play better than a guy who,
beats the guy who's on top of this game.
But here's the thing is that the U.S.
Amateur, which was Jack Nicholas
still considers majors, was considered
a major forever, is
match play. And match play
gets zero representation in any
of the major championships, and
it's the most common thing that all of us
play all of that.
Yeah, but like I think
I like the U.S. amateur.
I like the whole idea behind amateurs
playing and the match play, I guess,
is cool, like the tournament aspect of it.
But like the guy winning when the caddy just touched the sand to me is insane.
Like that's insane to me that he advances because like his opponent did something.
It's a game of like how you play.
You know what I mean?
It's like a little bit, I don't know.
Yeah, but like, lucky.
Somebody won the masters because somebody won the masters because somebody else signed a wrong scorecard.
Like that doesn't matter.
True.
I guess just trying to think.
For a major, like just to compare it to other majors and like how hard it.
is to beat that field and shoot the lowest score,
I think it'd be a very hard sell to say that whoever just,
like, happened to have a couple easy matchups throughout the weekend,
wins that and gets, like, the major.
But Tiger Woods won three U.S. Ambers in a row.
He didn't just get good matchups, like the best player won.
But there's opportunity to get good matchups, is my point.
There's definitely more argument.
But there's definitely opportunity.
I mean, I'm all right.
In the British Open, like,
British show, but they talk all the time about how you have a significantly better chance to win if you just get the good side of the draw.
So if there's no good side of the draw, like if you're playing somebody one-on-one in the exact same conditions and you lose, like you're out.
It's like, that's like saying in the NHL playoffs, like, well, that team shouldn't get to advance because they played a shudier team in the second round.
It's like, no, it doesn't matter.
You just beat whoever you beat.
That's it.
Yeah.
The PJ Championship for sure would have made the most sense because they've been trying to generate interest for the longest time.
and they move dates and they put it here, they put it there.
If they were like, hey, you know what we're going to do?
We're just going to be a match play event.
People would be like, well, all right, let's fucking go.
That would be, they should still do that, actually.
Dude, imagine.
Yeah, one over there.
Imagine how intense things would be on Thursday or Wednesday afternoon
when you've got two, like a big name who's going up against a, you know,
a much, much lower known lesser star.
and the guy's just playing red hot
and they're in like a playoff
and if he loses he's out of the fucking PGA championship
on like Wednesday.
That'd be amazing.
That is the one thing would be like a week long of golf.
There would be match plays in order to get them all in
and get it and finish on a Sunday
you'd have to start on a Monday.
Like it would have to start the next day.
Well, for the Dell match play
or whatever the hell it's called, Accenture,
whatever Keating or won, the WGC,
they started on Wednesday
and they get it done by Sunday.
Isn't the PGA, though?
Is not going to be a much bigger field than the Dell?
It doesn't have to be.
You can make it whenever you want it.
I like the idea you've won me over.
I think that's pretty cool.
Hell yes.
It should certainly be in more non-major events.
What do you think about this?
I'm going to throw something at you guys.
What if we do, and it doesn't have to be majors.
What if they add to the,
what if we start adding team aspects to golf?
And it's obviously not going to be a major,
but we add like a couple terms.
It's owned like mini tour,
whether it's like team Adidas,
team Nike,
team Taylor made,
all these teams,
right?
And they have to come up with,
and they basically play against each other.
And we have alternate shot events where like you have,
or maybe it's just like two teams of two.
And guys go out and they find their teams and like you have to find your pairing.
And like the JT DJ team is like the best team in the world.
They pair it up.
They're the fucking.
Yankees. Like, they're always going to go out there. They're going to be the best.
Like, that's the team that everyone goes out there. Phil and Tiger are going to pair up.
They're going to come in and they play alternate shot. How fucking sick would that be to, like,
have that team aspect where they have a team name. They're going to show up. Because like we see it.
We get jacked up when they do these charity events. They should do something with the PGA tour where it's
like they have ranking. They just like do that. Well, there's a classic. Sure. Like the Zeric
classic they do that. But I'm talking like where you actually have standings. Like there's like
it's a part of the tour.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying.
More like NASCAR or something,
where it's like a long, yeah.
I do think the addition of a team match play tournament would be fucking unreal.
If you could enter with whoever you wanted and it's not the best ball and alternate shot
format that the Zurich Classic is,
it's just a pure match play survivor team tournament.
That would be fucking unreal.
But you're saying like,
And you get to select your own team members?
Yeah, you get to pick your, you get to pick your team members.
This is ridiculous.
I don't think you guys are saying is ridiculous.
I mean, the PGA thing made it.
Why is it ridiculous?
We got guys, we got a player starting right up in far this week.
We're talking, what we're saying is ridiculous.
Good point.
Great point, actually.
What?
Whose point?
Riggs is.
Not one's on team Riggs.
Well, we got, we're already playing, what he's saying is we're already in a world where
like things don't always make a ton of sense.
Like, so why not just start getting crazy with it?
And there's no reason not to.
But don't get crazy to the point where like they start playing walk-up music.
Like I don't like, I want it to be like a team thing.
And I don't hate the idea that came up in my brain of like doing it by team titleist,
team tailor-made team.
That would be cool.
Like what is the best team?
It is like very NASCAR where it's like Hendricks Motorsports verse whatever.
The other people, I don't know, fucking monster energy drink.
I don't know what they need in the team.
But all I know is that-
Is that one of them?
Gibbs racing, sure.
I like the idea of it being like, who is the best.
And that would make it so competitive for who goes where.
It'd make it more interesting to know who, like, where the allegiance goes.
Like, where does DJ go?
Like, Taylor-May.
He's on team Tal-May, but also, like, he wears other shit.
Like, it would be really cool to see, like, who goes on which team.
I agree.
I would like to see.
I'd like to see more match play.
I'd like to see more team aspect out there.
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My dad was drinking New Amsterdam vodka last night
during the Islander stream of Borrellys.
He was pounding him down, transfusions.
It's a heavy pour.
I was like, that was a heavy pour.
There's a lot of New Amsterdam vodka in there.
I thought you said that series,
was over. I still believe so, yeah. I just thought you said it was over. Some surprise we're still
playing. Oh, that's like one of those things. Like, oh, what's the score? I don't have the game on.
I always respond to those people, you don't watch the sport. What do you mean? It makes you
sound stupid when you ask me what the score. It doesn't sound stupid when you say it's over before it is.
Well, no, I think the series is, I think the island's going to win the series. That's like,
that was my way of saying I'm very confident in the series. I think the analysts have basically
won five games in a row. I mean, the two games they've lost, they've rattled off,
late miraculous comebacks and then lost on like tips and little flares and overtime.
It's going to happen.
They've pushed every game to either a win or an overtime loss.
And I'm very confident with two more games remaining if they have to go to two more,
that they will get a win out of it.
They're playing much better hockey than flyers.
I'm not that worried, even though I sound like I'm worried.
I worry about your mental state if a game seven happens.
That's what I'll say.
That'll be bad news for everyone involved.
Bad news you go to San Jose.
They'll be confident.
You had a very funny tweet, I think maybe Thursday or Friday.
I don't even remember.
But you had said you just met some people and they were with you watching the Islanders game.
And you like went crazy and you're like, these people don't even realize what they just saw.
Well, yeah, I was with some people upstate and like they don't understand what's going on.
It was like a, they had cat.
That was where I got the cat, right?
And like they're not into the Islanders.
Like actually they're senators fan.
because they're closer to Ottawa than they are.
Any college.
Yeah, fucking two hours away from Ottawa.
That's how far I was upstate.
And like we had this game on.
They had to get it for me on my Kulu live.
I'm like, you guys don't realize this 15 second delay is a fucking issue right now.
Like this is, can we call a cable provider and I'll pay for it for the like the month or whatever?
Like, well, we need to get some wires in here, get cable boxes.
The power went out at one point because the wind blew.
It was not a good scene.
And then the islanders end up scoring late and, like, they won pretty well.
And, like, you know, I think it was like a four-one.
I can't remember what score of that game was.
But I was going absolutely fucking berserk when they took the lead.
Like, forgot where I was, like, crazy.
Like, foaming like, you're a fucking cop, quarterbuckle crazy.
And they're like, whoa.
Whoa.
Like, what is this?
I actually said I thought they were going to call the cops.
I really did.
I thought that they were going to call the police.
Yeah, that's got to be jarring to see.
for the first time for sure.
Man, like last night, I was going crazy with my dad
because they were down 3-1 with four minutes and 50 seconds left.
And on the stream, I said, this game ain't over yet.
Don't let the Islander score right now because I'm telling you
they're going to rattle off another one.
Right when I said it, they scored Brock Nelson, American Hero,
good guy plays hard, loves a game, Minnesota, War Road,
all the whole thing, North Dakota, Nodak, shout out Brock Nelson.
What a fucking beauty.
What a shot that guy had.
And then all of a sudden, Calcutterbuck scores two minutes later.
I'm like, this is it, team of destiny.
This is it.
We're going.
We're winning.
ended up getting a breakaway and fucking overtime didn't score.
I don't want to talk about that.
Okay.
Joey says,
We're going to win.
If you started playing golf lefty or just the other hand,
how long would it take you to get where your golf game is as good as your game now?
Or could you even do it?
No, it would never.
I don't, yeah.
So I had heard, you know, like, if I had heard that, what would, how long would it take for you to,
if you're right-handed, which I am, how long would it take for you to become where you could
write left-handed the same way you write right-handed? And basically it's all the time you've
been a lot. It's every second that you've been writing with your right hand, you now have to
switch it over to the left. So it's essentially your entire life. And I would imagine golf is like
that or maybe even harder. I don't think it's even possible, honestly. Do you think that you're
born right-of-e or lefty, like your brain actually maneuvers away in which it forced you to grab
that pen righty, it forced you to swing lefty.
Like, do you think that there is any aspect of that where you can't reach the level?
And some people are born with both, right?
You're switch hitter, you're ambidecturist.
You can bowl righty, ball lefty, do whatever you want.
Like, I can't do anything lefty, man.
And I don't know if that's just because I never tried.
I can do some things lefty, but I don't think that I could ever be where I am today
in the game of golf.
I think I could get to a level where I'm in like the high 80s, but I don't think that
I could get to the low 80s.
I think I can crack 90, but that's it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think I could ever do it.
I'm so far off from being even close to having good, like, even a backbone on which to start in terms of lefty golf.
That it would be, like, I would be starting worse than a one-year-old child.
Like, I just, you know, it's like so foreign and not even close that I don't think I could get there ever.
In terms of the question of, do you, are you born one hand in or the other?
I don't know the answer to that.
Is that, is there a scientific answer to that?
I don't know.
Because you also hear people like, oh, maybe it is.
But then also there's like facts to back up the other side of the argument where it's like, oh, I grew up in an era where there was no lefty clubs.
I play baseball lefty.
I do all this other stuff lefty,
but I learned that a golf variety.
I'm like, they're sick golfers.
Like almost every golfer in the world up until like, I don't know.
Like, I mean, we talked about that stat where Tiger Woods does more wins
than all the lefties ever lived on Earth combined.
There's just not the many leftists.
So, like, a lot of people learned how to play the golf right-handed in an era where lefty golfers
didn't exist.
Right, because they just couldn't get golf clubs.
Yeah.
They couldn't get golfers.
So they just learned to swing that way.
Well, because Rafa Nadal is a righty and he plays lefty.
That's really interesting.
I have a buddy that plays baseball lefty, bowls lefty, and golf's righty.
Like, swings a baseball bat lefty, but golf's righty, and it's sick.
That's a really interesting question that I'd never thought about.
And the way that I've always just assumed is, like, I'm right-handed, and that is as a part of me as, like, my eyes being green.
Like, I thought that was, like, that's just, in any other way, like, if I, like, if I,
growing up any differently, is there any chance that I was left-handed? To me, the answer is no.
When you're a parent, can you like, oh, no, no, throw it this way. And every time the kid picks
it the ball right in, can you switch it to the left end? I don't think you can. I think it's, like,
natural. No, so actually, so my dad's lefty. And my entire life growing up, we would play catch
and I would use my left hand because what I saw him doing was that hand. So I can't remember
what the baseball player was, but some Oriole player, my dad interviewed him and talked to him about it.
And he said, throw the ball and see which hand he picks it up with. And then that's his natural hand.
It gets down to like nature, nurture. So what you just said-
Sure does. That's a good point.
What you just said, does that prove that? Because like, you're at, in the first part of that,
you said you did it because you emulated your dad, which would argue that you can pick your
side. And then the very end of your statement, you said that someone said that is not correct. And
that whatever ball, whatever ball is, because I couldn't,
I was throwing with my left hand and my dad was like,
this kid just is never going to play a sport in his life.
That argument is for the,
you're born righty.
Yes, you're born right or you're lefty.
Okay.
Tell you a part of your brain,
because I always think that I'm messed up like maybe I'm actually the wrong hand.
Like maybe like my brain wants it to be on the right side of the ball,
not a lefty.
Some people say like you're dominant,
Like your dominant eye.
What?
He said we thought that watching you play.
Right.
Like some people say with putting,
like my dominant eye is not supposed to be on the front of the ball.
It's actually supposed to be on the back.
You can actually read the putt and see it go straighter if I was a righty putter.
That's why some lefty putters actually,
some lefty golfers that are right-hand dominant will actually put righty because of that fact.
I know, like they can actually see the ball come off the club face straighters.
something about your brain is just designed with the dominant eye looking and vision.
It's just off the way we do it.
All our dominant side is supposed to be on your side of the ball.
Yeah.
I've seen very good golfers out there that are right-handed and putt lefty or vice versa.
Correct.
Did Josh putt lefty this week?
No.
He didn't.
Okay.
Because we were talking and he said he might putt lefty and he plays.
He's a one and he's a righty and he was contemplating swinging and putting lefty.
Yeah.
Is he a left-handed writer?
No.
That's weird, I know.
I mean, Frank, he's such a bad putter that he's been struggling so much putting
that he was very seriously considering putting the opposite hand.
How bad could you be when you're a one?
That's all right.
Everything's relative.
Dramatic.
His ball striking is phenomenal, and he makes no.
Other question about the lefty business.
What do you think you're?
your low score is if you switch to lefty played for six months or switch to opposite hand so frankie
you're righty trained for six months what's your low score i can barely play left i can't barely
score lefty it would be 180 and you're saying six months six months you get six months you just
you're full on training for six months i think it's really like i would still beat justin thomas
lefty i think it's very hard to go out there and perform like
Like, I would shoot 150, 160.
Yeah, I don't know that I would break 100.
I'm so bad, Lefty.
So bad.
And six months is not that long.
No.
I think I could get better than a 108.
What's a specific number?
Well, because I was thinking that's three over par for every hall.
Okay.
Right, right, right.
Right, right.
Raw, raw, right.
You might be able to get to a point where you can just move it out.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I'll never fucking know.
I'm just so, I have nothing to base it off.
Also, imagine being, look at all of our games right now and being like, you know what
I'm going to do?
I'm going to switch hands completely.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
I need to focus all of my time and all of my energy on this fucking shit game that I have
right now.
I can't be switching hands and trying to figure that shit out.
Right.
That's like weird.
bullet golf. We're not even close to being good.
And we're going to now try to accomplish it and
beat it the other way. No change.
Right. When JT switches, it's like, oh, that's interesting.
He's dominating with a righty swing.
Let's see what he can do lefty.
We are not in that boat whatsoever.
You know?
Raw, raw, raw.
Right, right. Yeah, so that's really interesting.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what we don't. Do we have eBug?
I don't know if you've gone through all the footage.
I actually don't even know we were recording.
in that car ride on the way home.
We probably weren't because we're on our way to the airport.
On the way from Tasmania to the airport,
that guy who fucking drove us in Australia?
I don't think we have that guy.
I think I sent him some footage, yeah.
Really?
Man, that guy, I think we've talked about him on here,
but he was, for anyone that watches Peaky Blinders,
he was Arthur Shelby's dad.
Like, just the definition of what you would,
he's just Arthur Shelby,
when he's older and retired to like a nice Australian,
like jungle, basically is what Tasmania.
But he owns a bunch of cattle.
He's like, oh, well, right, right.
He's driving this huge van with a steering wheel
that's like just wobbling around on these roads in Tasmania.
Oh, if you look over here, have to me cattle over there.
Right, right, all right.
They all not drop you off right here by the aisle.
You guys going to take a nice little dingy over that to Australia.
I was like, oh, fuck, man.
brother shelby in the moment he was awesome yeah i hope we have to do that i hope we did too because he was
he was quite a care that car ride is when we um bought um uh old golf media old man media was it not
no no that was on the way to tasman oh right right that's right that's right on the way
yeah that was that i think we've also talked about that that was one of the more fun car rides we've
ever had it was completely silent for an hour nobody talked on the bus
And at one point, somebody just, like, laughed.
And then we finally started talking about it.
We've been going to war for an hour.
Dude, somebody just decided to quote tweet one of them and fire back.
And then we all did.
And that went on for about 15 or 20 minutes while we're in, like, a passenger van.
And eventually it just blew up into a hilarious conversation.
That honestly, the war between foreplay, barstow golf, and old man golf media,
if we don't have a two-hour drive from the airport to Barhambegle,
probably never happens.
It never happens
And I vividly remember
The internet kept going out
So we kept
We were like fire shots
And then we couldn't see
What the reaction was
What they were saying
And then it would click back on
And your notifications would go crazy
And that was when
Frankie
He was like
I'm gonna say
Put him in a home
I'm gonna say
We gotta put this guy in a home
And that's when we all decided
Like we're just going full board
At this right now
It was fun
Frankie did
He he vetted
Put him in a home
with us and was like, what do you guys think about about this phrase?
Like, it's pretty good.
But is it, and we were like, no, it's good.
You should say that.
And then you fired it off.
I didn't know if it was like really offensive, like Dean putting a home.
Rest in peace, Tom Seaver, who just passed away.
Oh, wow.
Maybe arguably the best met of all time.
Yeah, that was a shocker to see on the Twitter timeline.
I don't know how old he was or whatever.
What happened?
But just saw that figure I'd throw that in there.
He's 75, 75 years old.
R&P, Tom,
Severs, the boys.
That is young.
Dementia and apparently
he had some sort of COVID-19.
Boy,
give us some positive spin
before we close up.
I don't know.
Well, rest and peace of him,
thoughts and prayers to that family.
I mean, 75 is not old in 2020.
No.
No.
Oh, well.
A big name.
I know.
It's got heavy.
I don't know.
No, that's fine.
It's a nice thing that you said there.
Tom Siever.
I don't know.
I'm a Yankee fan,
but like,
that's Steve's Tom Seaver.
That's a fucking name.
So, yeah,
it's a big name.
It's a lot of,
it's very respectful that you said that.
That's great.
Yeah.
I think we're going to,
I think that you just kind of,
right, right, right, right, right, right.
Right, right, right.
Well, all right, right, right, right, right.
Raw, right.
Boy,
something interesting just happened,
but that's okay.
We're done.
We're done.
We're done.
It's fun.
We're done.
It was fun.
It was fun.
We talked,
We talked to a little golf.
I'll say, too, so that the listeners know, we don't really ever cut anything ever.
And ever, like, we just hit record and we talk for an hour and a half and then we hit
stop and we pretty much just publish it as is.
And we just cut something.
So I don't, I don't, it doesn't, you're never going to know, but we know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It wasn't anything problematic.
It was more just like, because I don't want to think it was anything problematic with Tom
Siever talk.
It was more just like inside bar school stuff.
I don't know why we decided to have like a meeting in the middle of Tom Seaver,
by the way, rest of a piece of Tom Seaver.
Which is weird.
Yeah, we, we.
What an ending for this show.
Let's hit it hard.
I got to eat something.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Thank you, everybody.
RIP, Tom Seaver.
That's terrible.
Go watch a travel series.
Go watch the travel series.
Enjoy the tour championship.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Very hard.
Hit it hard.
