Fore Play - The Bethpage Blackout with Jimmy Walker

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

2016 PGA Championship winner Jimmy Walker joins the show live from Bethpage and tells an INCREDIBLE Tiger Woods story (~1:10:10). Also, the whole crew spent the weekend at Bethpage, playing a round on... the final weekend the Black is open to the public before the upcoming PGA. We relive the experience, including a nerve-racking first tee, Trent Daddy's on-course attitude, and discuss the stunning condition of the Black!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's the whole squad. We are back. We got a very special show because we got Jimmy Walker, PGA champion, PGA championship champion. Is that you say it? PGA championship champion. Yes. Champion of the PGA championship. He was the champion of the PGA championship. He's on this very show, really cool guy. We got to chat with him for a while. We got some good story.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We've got an unbelievable, Tiger Wood story. Unbelievable. So that's coming up later in the show. We got to relive our entire weekend if you followed it all on the social media stuff. We were out of Beth Page. We had a hell of a weekend out of Beth Page, the Black, getting ready to host the PGA championship coming up in just a couple weeks. So we've got to talk all about that, all about our night before, about our round, about everything. Spring golf.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We like to talk about Spring Golf because they're the best. I used Spring Golf last night. Got myself a nice little Twilight deal before Game of Thrones. I was so goddamn anxious. I was like cleaning our apartment. It's like, I got to get the hell out of here. Played a little golf, Supreme Golf. It's 27 bucks or something like that for a little Twilight Nine holes.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Pretty good. Thank you to Spring Golf. You can go to SpringGoff.com slash Barstool, and I believe that they're doing a thing where they just give people a thousand dollars, which is that better than not having $1,000? I think we need to tell them it's not a great business. It's not a great business model. Just handing out $1,000 to people.
Starting point is 00:01:27 But for the user, I mean, get it while. you can't we're gonna have to hit them up they're just giving out money my create a fake account now i'm also on i'm like i have a little ups and downs with the supreme golf because they like to throw a lot of show a lot of anyone like realizes that they chirp you a lot they chirp the shit out of me on twitter because of the knives the knives just everything like i think once they threw in like an island there's like you hate to see that like they're just always they're always in my mention they're in the mix that's a quick one yeah and i love their logo every time i see the logo it's like that orange and blue hey frankie almost time to shave that beer
Starting point is 00:01:59 All right. Supreme Golf. There we go. They have been coming at you. I mean, they don't come at anything that they usually say to me is positive. Yeah. Like, way to go, Riggs-Z. Great chip, Riggs.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Except for us, it's like, like, Frankie, like, we understand that you like Supreme Gop, but you should never play the game of golf again. So maybe just use the app to book T-Times for other people. They, like, memes you all the time. Yeah. Like, Supreme Golf memes, Frankie. I've only got a couple nice retweets with, like, flames coming out when they got me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I appreciate them. Also, Riggs, apartment looks great. I got back last night late. And I'll tell you what? Even the mail was organized. The letters were organized by name on the kitchen counter. It was like insane. You've got the battle of Winterfall coming up, and you wake up at fucking, you know, 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And you have 12 hours until the damn thing starts. What are you supposed to do? It's raining outside, so I had to cancel my plans to play golf. Then it turned into a nice afternoon. So I booked a couple late plans of spring golf. But I did. I clean. I got the disinfectant little wipe things out.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Oh, man. And I was like wiping down counters and sinks. Clean your apartment? I had nothing else to do. I need to clean my room. I'll tell you what. living room looks unbelievable. I got in last night at like midnight,
Starting point is 00:03:03 and I was shocked at how beautiful the place was. I ran a load of laundry. I ran a load of dishwasher and stuff. It took a lot of time. It was unbelievable. It took a bit of time. It's still going. No joke.
Starting point is 00:03:14 The laundry, it's the slowest thing in the world. I forgot about that. I really forgot about that. It hasn't picked up at all. It's just the same pace. Same pace. Once you start break it in a little bit, nothing. Same pace, and I thought I fixed the wrinkle game,
Starting point is 00:03:28 but the wrinkles are way back, and they're back with a vengeance. It's like they thought that they were being fixed, and then it, like, broke itself again, and now it's just impossible. There's definitely a little creature in there that just, at the end, just kind of mushes everything together.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Like, it's perfect, and then there's a... The wrinkle monster. It's the wrinkle monster. It just... It just rolls it all up. It's the wrinkle monster. I mean, he lives in our fucking unit. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:03:53 The wrinkle monster. I think there's some truth to that. I think there's, like, legit truth to that. We will... So we'll tweet out a picture of this pair of pants that Lurch has on the couch. So I took these things out because I was going to do laundry yesterday. I'm telling it. I took these things out to throw my own load in.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, it looked like somebody took a waffle iron to his pants. Oh, man. I bet Lurge thinks he's going to wear these around. I honestly looked at them this morning, and I was amazed at how many wrinkles there were. It looked like an artist almost took an iron to my arm. my pants and just created as many seams as possible. I bet there's triple digit different wrinkles than that. It's off the charts.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I'll actually wear them. We'll post out a picture about how bad it is. I got to say, we could not have less of an endorsement for a two-and-one washer dryer. It goes in your environment. It's just not a buy. We have to, now we've got to get an iron and it's going to be a train rack. But anyways, I did a little cleaning yesterday. You know, my stuff came out pretty wrinkled.
Starting point is 00:04:54 The shirt looks okay. Now you got to, we got to get, yeah, like take them out a little bit wet. like hang them around the apartment, which our apartment is not very big to begin with. So then the whole apartment is just closed. It's anyways. It's a whole deal. But I played golf yesterday. Spring golf.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It was fantastic. Speaking of golf, we were out at Bethpage this past weekend. Very cool event. If you didn't catch any of it, what happened was this. This past weekend was the last time that Bethpage Black is open to the public before a major championship comes to town. People line up. If you're not familiar with the Bethpage situation, Bethpage Black, it's obviously a public course. They've got five courses at Bethpage State Park.
Starting point is 00:05:30 The black is this tip-top one, AW Tillinghass course, unbelievable golf course built in like 1930, early 1930s, I believe, has hosted a couple major championships, including a couple of U.S. opens. It's awesome. It's like $75, I think, on the weekend for New York residents. It's like $150 if you're a non-resident, which is legitimately nothing. It's a joke. So what people do is they have a walk-up line. It's actually a car line where you put. Pull in.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's like first come, basically first serve. You pull in like the day before people start pulling in. They get in the line. And then if you're one of the top, you know, however many cars, you get a spot the next morning. People sleep in their cars. All kinds of crazy stuff. Well, what Footjoy decided to do. And they asked us to come be a part of it, come hang out with them, come play golf in the morning, come mix it up with people that they were going to kind of surprise.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Footjoy was like, we're going to show up. We're going to build a goddamn party scene, basically. Yeah. And we are going to surprise all those. people that think they're sleeping in their cars, and we're going to let them hang out under a tent with a freaking, what do you call, airstream? Yes. With an airstream.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It's like a trailer with a bar in it. They had like a bar. They had like golf cornhole going on. It was a scene. And so we were like, yeah, we'll come be a part of that. We did. We got videos coming out from that. But they just grabbed all these people who were in line.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Our guy Michael Breed was there. We got a lot to talk about with Michael Breed. A lot to talk about with Michael Breed. But what they decided to do was just surprised. all these people and go over to their cars be like, hey, instead of just sitting in your car alone, like a loner, why don't you come over here and drink and hang out with all of us? It was awesome. It was just an absolute blast.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I do want to say a little bit unfortunate. It was pouring rain. Never seen it rain harder in my life. I agree with that. It was a monsoon. Monsoon. It was insanity. But they prepared.
Starting point is 00:07:19 They were prepared. They put a tent over the whole thing, and it was all good. All covered by footchow. It was absolutely tremendous. Never seen that much tent action and as effective as it was. tent was crazy, but at some point we was like, oh, we'll drink it, we're all having a good time, we're kind of ignoring it, and then eventually it was like, all right, we should
Starting point is 00:07:32 have to talk about it. It's just fucking pouring outside. There was some rivers running under the tent, because obviously it rains around the tent, and the amount of rain that was coming across was unbelievable. It was shocking. I mean, it was a shocking amount of rain. We went to Borrellys on the way out there. Hey.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Love and I stop at Borrellys. I did notice this new tradition that people seem to be doing at Borrelies. It's crazy, right? Which is, I guess, I guess, When they go in there, it's going viral. Yeah, it is. When they go in there, they grab a butter knife, and they take a picture with either your father
Starting point is 00:08:02 or a brelli sign or something of that nature. Yeah, there's this sign. You walk in, it's right to the left. There's a little bench there. It's perfect for a couple people to sit. I see what you're doing. You're trying to make this into a thing. No, we're describing it.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And I've already said that if it becomes the thing, I will remove every single knife from that goddamn restaurant and good luck cutting your veal scalaprini. You can't have a fucking restaurant, Frank, and not have knives. Well, watch us. You can't have butter. It's going to become Borelli's auto shop or something.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You just can't have the restaurant. You imagine the people that have no idea, because this is probably like a very few amount of golfers that understand the joke that also end up going to Borelli's. But so like the majority of people that end up going there, like that just want knives and like when we have to explain to them. No, it's like this whole joke that like this like, you know, the owner's son just can't hit a wedge and everyone says it's a butter knife. And then now we have to remove the butter knives. What are you going to give them? Chopsticks, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It's a fucking Italian restaurant. And of course, my dad's taking. pictures with them. He should not accept those pictures. He should walk away for his son who's struggling with something. Up until he met Michael Brede, that's a little teaser for what he comes. Michael Brede is an
Starting point is 00:09:08 unbelievable savant with a golf club in his hand. And the way he can explain things to help you is something that I've never really seen before. It's like talking to Dumbledore or something. It's like he's just has so much knowledge. A little more energy than Dumbledore. No, he's the second Dumbledore. Oh yeah, the first one was a little bit of
Starting point is 00:09:26 of a snooze faster saying the second guy. The second guy was bringing it a little bit more. Yeah, Gandalf. I do like how Gandalf decided to be like, no, I'm going to be my own Dumbledore instead of just trying. And he really brought the difference. I mean, the first Dumbledore used to fall asleep when people would come to his office. And the second Dumbledore was grabbing Harry Potter's face, like shaking it.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Like, oh, what are you doing, Harry? Like, holy shit. That's Michael Breen. Oh, yeah. If you didn't know about the Dumbledore switch and what happened there and the, you know, then you would see that second one and you'd be like, this is an imposter. Who the fuck is this Dumbledo? I don't know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And they just like sprung it on us. Well, this is Harry Potter. We're not going to get into that because it's a golf podcast. We're not going to talk about it. Well, I've read the books and seen it. It's very, it's great. Great, great storyteller. It's really dark later, but anyways.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Great food. Great food of Borrelis. We're not going to talk about it. We had, well, I'm on the stupid diet again. What stupid diet? Just been back on a diet. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You say it's so vague diet. What does it consist? No carbs. Which is tough. You walk into an Italian restaurant and you're not eating carbs. You wouldn't break even for Borrellis? No. You can't do it because when I break, buddy it breaks.
Starting point is 00:10:29 It breaks. And then I'm eating everything in sight. It's fair. I'm not kidding. I can't stop myself. I can't stop me. Frank, I bet. I had four servings of meat at the fojoie event.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You told me you you're on a meat dot and I joined you. Four or five servings. Really good meat. Frankie, I bet you can guess what I had. Raviolis. Lobster raviolis. I get it every time and then what I do. So Mr. Brelli brings us out, you know, he always brings out a couple little
Starting point is 00:10:53 pies for the boys. To nibble on, he brought out some mozzarella. Mozadelle, yeah. Mozadelle. Which was quite delicious, and he brings out that, like, garlic bread.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, yeah. Stuff. Yeah. What I do is I reserve a couple of those. Eat my lobster ravioli. Dip it in the sauce. I do a dip situation after. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:11:10 The cleanup's the best part of the meal. It's the best part. I even wait. I give it, like, five minutes between the conclusion of the ravioli and then the commencing of the bread into the ravioli sauce, and it's just off the chas.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, man. I'm so, You get just a hint of that lobster still kicking around in there. It was awesome. I wish I could have joined you guys, but I had prior engagements. You did. Yeah, how'd that go? It didn't go great.
Starting point is 00:11:35 We'll just get into this real quick. It's not a hockey podcast. We're not going to talk about hockey. But I still am sitting here with this unbelievably bad facial hair, so it's an elephant in the room, and we have to talk about it. The islanders are 0-2 right now in the series. They're getting absolutely, I don't know what the word would be, skull-fucked by you know, the hockey gods.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, I would say the guy. I was going to say they look pretty good actually. They're playing great hockey. They just can't put the puck in the net. What happens? Yesterday, five posts, which I've never seen before, two of which we celebrated as like a stadium. I mean, the players all jumped over the boards,
Starting point is 00:12:07 and then there's like, no, it's actually not a goal. It's tough. It's tough to watch. It's tough to be a part of. I went to that island game. I missed Borrellys. I missed a little bit of the footjoy experience. But I had to be there for my team,
Starting point is 00:12:18 and I knew you guys could handle it. And you did. And I just had a really bad night. And that's it. I wish I was there. Your dad was there with you, right? Yes. He left our Borrelli's experience.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You know, that was actually a bummer. We were going to do a photograph with your father. Thank God. We were like, at the end of the meal, we're going to do the butter knife photo, viral sensation that everybody's doing. Yeah. And then we had forgot that he left to go join you at the game.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So then that's why if we did, where if you walked into Borrelli's and it's right directly on your left, and then if you were to sit right in there with a knife, even if the Borrellys put out a basket of knives. Mm-hmm. Butternives. Something like that I could see that happening because it becomes such a craze. But that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I actually made a comment to him like, how'd you let this happen? And he's like, what? I said, well, you know, they were like taking pictures all over the, all over the restaurant with butternines. He's like, I didn't see it. And I showed up to him and he started laughing. So. In his defense, he had left at that point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah, he had no idea. It was weird. We didn't even think of your dad ever leaving the restaurant. Even as he was saying goodbye, I didn't even think about like we should make these pictures now. Yeah. No, yeah, he lives there. That's what we thought. Once we were like, all, let's take these pictures and like, wait.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He just left. This is his place. He doesn't leave this place. No. So we had to improvise. He opens the doors and closes them every day. That's insane. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He waved goodbye to us and then never crossed my mind that he was actually leaving. Not once. We legit. We just gave a token like, um, acknowledging of what he was saying. Sure. You're going to leave. Okay, pal. We'll like hug you on our way out in an hour.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And no, he was actually gone. And then once he left, I mean, we were, we were running wild with the place. We're taking photos everywhere. That was just the best one. That was just. I will say, it's, become such a thing. Like, there were, we saw two different groups of Stoogys that were in there.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Like, hey, we came, we drove all the way down from Mass. We had to come to Borrellys. That should have been all the time. It was crazy. Yeah. I think, I think just the Barstall, like, universe has made Burrellas a destination place. The way these guys said it to me, it was like, they legit drove down just to go to Brelies.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, that's great. And also, we talked about in the car. Borelli's is Barstall H.Q. Long Island. There's martial stuff everywhere. Yep. My dad's wearing it nonstop. We're wearing it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 There's, all right, Frank. sweaters in the bar. There's a barstool flag behind the hostess. There's an Islander's barstool. Even like out there, the little chalk sign even is like one of our sponsors and then has the like barstool welcomes you to Borrellas. No word. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 That's awesome. Well, it's because we had that sponsor. We did a show there with them. My dad just won't take it down. Like you're not sponsoring and you're not presenting anyone anymore. Like this is, you're just a restaurant now. You're not like a, you're not a place for a radio show. He's like, well, they gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So. I'm keeping it. keeping it. You try and take that thing down. So when we arrive at Bethpage Black, it's pouring rain. I got to say, we got there around 4, 430, something like that. There were cars that had arrived at noon. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:04 That is crazy. There's a kid who said he arrived at noon. He's like, my buddies will be here until midnight, but I got here at noon, so I really wanted to get a spot, and I'm off work today. I'm just hanging in my car. They're like, what? So people are that dedicated to get out of the black. Now, I will say.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's awesome. I don't play them. Because the black is one of the greatest golf courses. on the planet. It is by far the best deal in golf. I've said that before, I'll say it again. It has to be. It's got to be the best deal in the world of golf.
Starting point is 00:15:28 It's also, like, on a weekday, a bunch of people were talking to us, because there are a bunch of the long-ey owners who were kind of in line, who jumped into the cool footjoy hangout tent, which was one of the core things I've ever seen. And they're like, yeah, I'm born and raised out here, and they're like on weekdays after work.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I come out at, like, three o'clock when the sun's up till, you know, 8, 8, 30, or whatever. And I can play for 65 bucks. I can just walk onto the black as a single for 65 bucks. That is why this whole scenario to me just seems like excessive and crazy because I've lived down the block from it my whole life. And I've done that. Like, you know, when I was caddying, I'd like take, I'd do a loop at like 11 o'clock. I'd get out at 233.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And then I'd just drive over to the black and play and just walk on. Like it was just like, hey, what I want to play? I want to play the Bethpage blue, the red or the, oh, the blacks got a tea time at like 3.45. Let me just do that. It's insane. It's crazy. Wild way to grow up. But now, but now it's like the older you get in the more.
Starting point is 00:16:21 that you see like, you know, people actually travel here and they make, like, it's a destination golf course. It's a, you know, one of those top 100. I have to play it. If I'm going to play all these golf courses type plays. And I mean, people literally stay there a day or too early or two in advance. There were a bunch of people in line who had driven down from Boston. Yeah, I was a bunch of Boston. I guess I was a little bit surprised at first. And then kind of the more I thought about it was like, dude, genius fucking move. Like if you're in the Boston area, there's really nothing even close as an equivalent. And, and even me, and from Midwest, from St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like, there's nothing even close to an equivalent of the black, which is any week, any weekend, when you've got free, if you want it bad enough, you can get on a major championship golf course that has a major every, like, decade. And it's always in major form. Always. The form was outrageous. And we are going to get to this round,
Starting point is 00:17:15 but the greens, I've never seen them like that at the black ever. They were so pure. They were moving. The place was popping. And anybody who's out here listening in the tri-state area knows every golf course in the area, every public course in the area, the greens are punched right now. Yep. I haven't played non-punched greens in like a month and a half. It's just, and we haven't had warm days and a ton of sunlight.
Starting point is 00:17:38 We've had a lot of rain, which is pretty good. So none of the whole, like none of the punch greens of heat. So like everywhere we've been playing, there's just been putting on punch greens for like a month. And then we get out to the black. And it was just an incredible condition. But to go back to that, like I said, like being from St. Louis, like, we never had an opportunity to play what is I would consider like a top 10 or 20 golf course in America. Right. And we never, like, that never even cost our minds that we would ever get to do that at any point in our lives.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We'll like, we'll shell out for like the $100 course down the street maybe or 30 minutes away, maybe once a year. We'll be like, dude, we're fucking, we got a little bit extra cash. We got a couple extra tips at the valet this week. Like, let's fucking do it. We're going to make our one trip down. There was this course called Tapawingo into the St. Louis area that we would go down to. They had like three nines and they had this hilarious commercial on TV. They'd go, tapawingo.
Starting point is 00:18:29 With all the like drone footage going, it was electric. And we'd be like we got to go play tapio. And it was in great shape. It was in an incredible shape. And it was like 35 minutes away and it cost like 100 bucks. And for us, that was about as expensive as it got in the St. Louis area. That was cool. That is like a fucking joke.
Starting point is 00:18:46 That course would be a two if Beth Page is a 10. And that was the coolest thing we could do. Most places in the country, you just don't have that. So to tie it all up, it made so much sense to me at these people. Yeah, it's like a four-hour drive down from Boston. Of course we came down. I was like, dude, fuck yeah, you should. And then they got to hang out and party with us.
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Starting point is 00:19:47 They're all inside the conference room. Yeah. And outside the glass is like this man walking with like a couple of like briefcases. Briefcases for sure. And like there is the hand specialist. He walks in, puts those two briefcases on the fucking table, opens it up. And like there's just all the information as to how he's going to make this glove incredible. That's exactly what I think when I hear hand specialist designed the bionic glove.
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Starting point is 00:20:40 I mean, an absolute scene. We were drinking up a storm breeder with all of his energy, that maniac. He had Michael Breed telling stories. I love him. Getting into deep conversations with every person I saw him into a conversation with. He had him tied up to some contraption by the end of it, working on their takeaway, their fucking down swing, their putting stroke.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He was all over the place and we're kind of sharp in him like this, that. Next thing you know. Okay, we tee off in the morning. Michael Breed is a spot. I would also like to say he was up late and then the first voice I heard in the morning was Michael Brie. He woke me up. He was like a rooster. He had an amazing amount of energy in the morning.
Starting point is 00:21:14 He woke me. It's a rooster. Unbelievable amount. The first voice I heard my alarm clock that morning was Michael Breed, breeding someone at the footjoy tent. I'm not even kidding. I 100% was in the same boat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I heard him before I heard Lurch. And we slept in a tent together. Yeah, because we did the glamping tents and then woke up, true glamping. And just Michael Breed was my alarm clock that morning. I wouldn't have it any other way. He came in to my tent. He came in? I was in my boxers getting dressed.
Starting point is 00:21:40 He came in. What the hell's going on in here? Are you ready for this? I was like, breed. I can't even open my fucking eyes, man. It was amazing. Also, Riggs woke up. We slept right next to each other in these little lovely aerobeds.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Mine was a little soaked, and honestly, there was just so much rain that the tents couldn't even stop it. Like, there was water coming through the tent, and there was nothing you could do. The tent looked perfect with no holes, but somehow the water was just pouring in. The greatest tent in the world couldn't hold the rain that fell that night. And so I was trying to get comfortable all night. We had a big night. I don't know what time we went to bed, but it was late. Let's call it two.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Let's call it two for the sake of market. out by the bonfire. Oh, it was lovely. Those little things with the holes? The fire pit with the holes. Oh, yeah. One of the most unbelievable inventions of all time. Yeah, it's going to be tough to explain, but it's a fire pit, and basically what it does
Starting point is 00:22:27 is there's holes on the top, but it sucks down the heat and then the flames come back out the top through holes. Wow. Now, that's a horrible description of it, but I'll tell you what, it's lovely. I'm telling you, watching this thing work, Frankie, they're telling me, maybe it's because we were pretty shit-faced. It's like one of the morning. You could have explained anything to me.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I would have been like, whoa. But they're like, the fire. pit has these all these holes it's like a ring of holes just under the top of the rim and they were like yeah these holes affect the physics and the fire and the smoke so that it sucks technically the heat down and then like basically recycles it out and the holes do all this stuff to essentially like facilitate a hotter fire pit so that the fire continues to burn with like more rage throughout the night and i was like these fucking holes do all that that's what you're telling me it's a ring of fire sure yeah i mean I know you're trying to keep on it. I didn't get anything on a trend there. That's a swing and a miss. You try to keep your hot stick alive. Well, you said the word, you said the word ring.
Starting point is 00:23:22 All good, you just hit the post. That's mean. Point is. You hit the post. Anybody who can explain, and maybe this would be like, what's up, Doc, for fire pits. Yes. Anybody who can explain science behind that better because I was just tremendous. Blown away.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And then I had like four different people, you know, a bunch of these stooys, a bunch of people that were in line. Everybody had a theory, right? Everybody's like, no, no, I know how it works. Let me explain it to you. I'm not buying that. So I would like to know more about how it works But it was amazing and it's beautiful The way the fire kind of goes in and out of these little holes, Frankie
Starting point is 00:23:50 You got to see it You'll have to check it out. It's like a little faucet of heat comes pouring out there So anyways we wake up We roll over to the first tee in the black Now the way it was working was Footjoy because they had done such a cool thing Had gotten like the first four tea times
Starting point is 00:24:02 So we were able to snag one of those first four tea times Before all the public got to go out Now everybody that sleeps over in their car When now you're not sleeping in a car until like 8 a.m. 9 a. I'm like, you pop up as soon as that sun comes up. As soon as that rooster, Michael Breed starts hauling, you pop up.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And everybody around that first tee is a buzz. I'm talking to, there are 40, 50 people around that first tee. We had a gallery behind us. It was amazing. It was also terrifying. It was amazingly terrifying. Really, really scary. The grandstands are up. Everybody's hanging.
Starting point is 00:24:32 We waltz over there around 7.30. You're going to go around about 7.45 or 8. Everyone's coming up to you. How do you're going to do it on that first team? My heart's starting to go right now. I'm not even kidding. just thinking about that scenario before what happened. Watching you prior to the first tee was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The video of you hunched over and then you're like taking a deep breath is all time. I don't even remember. I think I blacked out. I don't, the seven to eight to 20 minutes before we teed off, I don't remember a single thing that happened. Trent, at one point looked at me and he's like, he's like, we have 40 people behind us. And if you were to tell me that I could pay $500 to $1,000 right now to not tee off on this first tee, I would do it. Well, I mean, what we forgot to address, are we going to talk about that in the tent, the chip-off? Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Oh, I did forget about that with my moment when Jimmy Walker put up a... Look, there will be a video coming out that will contain the contents of what happened under the tents, what happened under the watchful eye of Mr. A.W. Tillinghouse at Bethpage Black, all that good stuff. We can, of course, allude to some of it, essentially Jimmy Walker, who's a great, great dude and you're going to hear him in a few minutes on the show who's a great dude orchestrated a chipping contest underneath the tent and the tent i mean the tent was rockin there were like 50 people in the tent everybody's boozing up and he said uh whoever whoever you know chips it in uh first gets to they win this smoker right and the big contest people are going crazy and anytime
Starting point is 00:26:03 you kind of get everybody together for a contest we're going to go hooting and hollering and we all got to take shots at it and we'll just say that Trent's was the most interesting. Yep. Yeah, it was. That's good. We can pause there. They can see in the video, a little precursor. That's why I wanted to pause.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Let's say, so the result of what happened left my confidence at an all-time low. It was low. It had to be low. Let's just say I've been there before. I explained the situation to Frankie when I met up with him in the morning. I was like, you got to hear this. I know I've been making fun of you. I took that picture of Borrellys.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I feel bad about it now because you won't believe what happened to me last night. Those who are listening, you will see it in the video. It's tough. People that saw this shipping contest on social on the internet were demanding a Frankie Burley appearance. So, that's very, you know, a lot of people were saying it was convenient that you just couldn't be there. Super convenient. I saw the social media.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I saw the wedges come out. I saw that little fucking contraption. Like, that thing is horrifying because, like, I mean, I can't even hit off grass. You think I'm going to hit off a board going downwards? Like, I mean, that thing is insane. He says that little contraption. I'm with you, brother. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:27:07 man. I mean, what happened to Trent could happen to the best of us, and it has happened to the best of us. It's happened to me. From what I heard, I don't know specifically if it's happened as bad to me, and that's pretty bad. What happened to Trent was pretty horrifying from what I heard. It was really tough. It was tough. So his confidence was
Starting point is 00:27:23 low. And now we fast forward to the morning. Beautiful, beautiful Saturday morning. Not a cloud in the sky. It's about, what, 50 degrees, something of that nature. Windy as hell. Unbelievably, unbelievably windy. Probably 25-mile an hour sustained wind throughout the day. just throughout the entire day. But you're on that first tee.
Starting point is 00:27:40 You're excited, but you start to form in our heads. Like, wait a second, all these people are just standing. You know, there's probably a 15-foot elevation behind the first tee. And then they're all off to the side of these grandsons. You're surrounded by grandstands. And then, like, just to the side of it, there's, like, what, 30, 40 people just standing there, all with their phones out, all chirping, all like, oh, butter knives, we got this, that. Every single person said butternise, you're going to shank this one.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's like, thank you, man. And, like, I didn't really get to, I didn't get to take one practice with my driver because the freaking, the driving range, like, we obviously weren't on the pro driving range. And the driving range is being protected by this huge netting because all the, I guess, all the, like, production trucks are on the public driving range right now. So it's like you're stepping up there, ice cold. Ice cold. Ice cold. You have no idea where your balls go. You have no idea where the ball is going.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You got 40 to 50 people behind you. I mean, the first hole at the black, even if there's no one behind you, is one of the most intimidating first tee shots of all time. You potentially miss that fairway in a dream. When everything's going your way, the fairway is so tight, you still might miss the fair way. I'm just not the type of golfer that can handle, like, the stress and all that stuff. Like, I can barely get the ball off the ground when it's just my head. I'm the type of guy when I go out golfing with three other buddies.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I'm, like, shaking. I'm nervous because of the three buddies. Those guys that land fighter jets on aircraft carriers couldn't land a plane on that fairway. It's so tight. It's the tightest fairway on the planet. I don't know if you can fit two wheels on that fair way. I don't think you could. No.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And so, you know, we're all, everybody's around in a circle. Michael Breed plays the first hole with us. And we have, this is a separate video that we're going to have come out of foreplay and Michael Breed against the first hole of Bethpage Black with the crowd. All that, we play the whole whole out we film. Everybody's shot. So everybody's going to see how that hole played out. But we can talk about when we went down on the first tee, which is that we started to realize
Starting point is 00:29:25 it's our fucking turn to hit. Oh, shit. And everybody's out there, they're chirping and they're excited. It's a good time. We say who's going to hit first. Well, let's flip a tee. I tried to hide behind Lurch. No, you hide, I was flipping the T, you were hiding behind Riggs, which is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I don't even remember. Everybody grab your own quadrant so we know who the T points. Trent tries to hide behind me. I shove him out of the way. Trent's got his chin to his chest, looking down, trying to avoid any possible eye contact. But it's like in class where your teacher's like asking a question, you have no idea the answer. I just didn't do the reading. I did not read that chapter.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Do not call. I don't even know what the book's called. And just, yeah. And as the universe would have it, as soon as you flip that tea there, I should just start walking towards the tea. I mean, I've never seen a tea point more directly at. So it was basically pointing at your nose. Pretty much. So Trent Daddy walks up to this tea, and I'm telling you, we're all shaking, right?
Starting point is 00:30:18 And Trent Daddy walks up there, everybody's dead silent, eerily silent. It was horrifying. Like I said, when I go off with three other buddies, I get, like, shaking nervous. And now we've got 40 people behind me with all their phones out. I got Michael Bred there, who the last time I had met him was at the World Long Drive a couple years ago, I told him to break down my swing and he said, pick up a different sport. That's what he said to me. In that same thing, that was his first savant lesson that he gave right prior to you hitting that ball. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:30:48 He said, that swing looks much better. When I hit a practice swing. Yes. He was like, that swing looks much better. And that gave me a ton of confidence. That was insane. That was the first savant lesson. He put the most positive thought I could have imagined putting in someone's head.
Starting point is 00:31:01 which you teed that sucker up you took a little practice swing he goes that looks much better yep and then you just stepped up there trent danny first of all the fact that i got the ball on the tea was was a was a was a win the shakes and like you said you want to talk about silence they were going crazy the fans behind us and like the players i mean these guys are obviously all listeners to the podcast because they were saying all like inside jokes to me and i'm like oh my god i know i'm going to hear about this for the rest of my life and then like they're just making a lot of noise and then trent steps up to the first tee and they just stopped like Like they were at a fucking professional golf tournament.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. Someone had the please stop now. And you could hear your heart beating. That's how quiet it was. And then I stepped up. I sort of remember what happened. I hit the best drive of my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Hit it right into the fairway. Absolutely piped it. You hit this little butter cut. Yep. Started down the left side of the fairway and just cut right back in the middle, like five-yard cut. It was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. Dude, when you made contact, the whole place erupted. It was like contact and the whole place went, boom!
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like everyone did the boom. It was insane. I would have been very... You peeled it up the left-hand side with a little baby cut. It was lovely to watch. It was incredible. It was electric. That's the best way to say it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It was electric. I couldn't believe that it happened. I still can't believe that it happened. I'm glad that I just got it in the air. That was my number one goal. And the fact that it landed in the fairway with a little cut, it's really one of the best moments of my life. And you were saying after, you're like, you know, they really say all the time that, like, there's always one shot every round that keeps you coming back. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That was it. That was it times of a million. That was it. It was incredible. And then we all had to try to follow that. I'll be honest, I was rooting for you to swing and miss. Because there's no... That's awful.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I was. When you hit that shot, I said, well, God damn it. That's an awful thing to say. I know, but I got to be truthful. I said, fuck me. I was like, he just fucking piped one up the middle. How the hell am I going to do that? How am I going to step up and do that?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Some people were expecting Trent to, like, swing and miss or hit it right and left. Definitely. And he stepped up there and just. fucking destroyed the ball. Maybe like a 275 with a nice cut right down the middle. Are you kidding me? At the first hole of the black, are you nuts?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Now, I don't want to be this to be offensive for you to take this the wrong way. Hit me. Let's do it. But that was, if the expectations were X, that was infinity times X. In terms of how much you outdid the expectations of you hitting that ball. I mean, I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:33:23 That number might be low. And again, coming off your chipping performance than I before, my thought was almost like, I don't know if they're going to let him play after what happens on this Tee right now. This is outrageous. And then you just rip one down the middle. I mean, the ball might have been, I was thinking the ball's the safest thing on the Tate. Like, there's no chance you potentially hit this.
Starting point is 00:33:44 The ball's incredibly safe right now. It was something. Everything you guys are saying is true. Whatever happened, what it happened should not have happened, but I'm glad that it did. God damn did it happen. It did. It was lovely. Celebrities, executives, and fashionistas can attest that the key to dressing well is ensuring you've got
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Starting point is 00:34:59 You go to propercloth.com slash four. Propercloth.com slash four. So, you know, I don't want to give away the entire video. All the rest of our T-shots, what happened, what transpired on the first hole, we captured it all in great detail. And again, we're going to put a whole video out from that moment. You're going to be able to feel the nerves, the, like, eerie quietness that happened right before we teed off, however he played out the hole and all of that.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I just have to say, poor office manager Brett. thought he was going to play the round and he had to walk the entire round but since frank he was able to play last minute he just had to walk 18 holes of the black with us and got to do nothing he he slept overnight he did the whole experience he was ready to go i think he had his clubs with him right he probably had his clubs with him on i think he found out late or early enough that he didn't bring his okay well either way he was geared enough to play that golf course at some point in his life and i kind of just like stepped in felt kind of bad for him but he uh he walked the golf course And it's his first time ever seeing it.
Starting point is 00:35:59 He's a pretty big golfer. Like, he loves the game of golf. First time ever seeing the black and having to walk it is one, it's a cool, it's a cool thing to do, right? You get to see the black. Yeah, it is. But like to walk the fucking fairways and walk by the bunkers, walk on those greens, watch us play. As your buddies are hitting all the shots, you wish you could just hit the shots. That's like, what do they call it, purgatory?
Starting point is 00:36:19 It's like you're not in heaven, you're not in hell. You're just somewhere stuck in between. It's like a waiting area. That's what he was in. He was like he couldn't quite touch it yet. And we weren't letting them. Like, we just, like, we give them, like, a wedge. Like, yeah, just play around.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Poor office manager, Brett. That also reminds me that just that anybody's going to be able to walk the course and check out the course in a couple weeks because I'm bringing a major championship there, the PGA championship. Reminder, go to PGA Championship.com slash foreplay. Get yourself some tickets. The crowds are going to be rowdy. It is golf's next major championship as strong as field in golf.
Starting point is 00:36:53 The course is in phenomenal shape. Just seeing it alone is really cool. but then getting to see these guys playing it, Tiger, J.T. Our guy, Bryson, Spieth, maybe his game will come back around. Just all the stars in the game are going to be out there. You can be out there to PGA Championship.com slash foreplay. Go get your tickets. We can get into the round, which we should.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I'm floored at the condition of Bethpage Black. A lot of concern when they move this tournament from August to May, especially with a bunch of northeast venues, not a bunch, but at least a couple coming up. We got Oak Hill. which is what, up near Rochester, in a few years, which is even more north, obviously, than here. And Beth Page Black, which out on Long Island, you know, you've really only got the month of April to get the course prepared,
Starting point is 00:37:38 and then a week and a half or so into May is, like, the players start showing up, and you have to host a fucking major championship. So there was a lot of concern that the course was going to be. Is it ready? Is it this, that? I haven't really ever seen it in better shape. The only concern would be that the rough isn't long yet. That's everywhere in, you know, in the Northeast. Not long, but thick.
Starting point is 00:38:01 It's plenty thick. Plenty thick. I first off, can't wait to see the T-shots because, you know, it was great. But speaking to that in terms of- Why'd you point to me when you said that? Well, just a few things. We were teammates. It was like the best Rangelers and Islanders team that could ever exist.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Why did you point to me when you said, I can't wait to sit T-shots? That's a little teaser, I guess. It's a teaser. I'll tell you this for the teaser. When I stood on top of my ball when I went to go hit, at one point, everything went black. No, everything went black. Like, I actually, like, blinked, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm still here.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah. Yeah. But speaking- I'm still here. Speaking to the course, I actually was amazed at how dry it actually was for all the rain that we got. Yeah. Like, there was a tsunami.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It was an insane amount. Tsunami of water came through Bethpage Black, and then someone just, like, dried it out. You just couldn't even notice. It was. River through our tent. Yes. Yeah. I put my bag in it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 My clothes were soaked. Lurtz literally actually sat in his bag in the river of water. And then I was trying to say before, but when I was trying to go to bed and I was just so tired, but I wasn't sleeping because my bed was just soaked. I finally, it's that point where, like, you can't go to bed. Your mind's racing or whatever, but then you're just so tired that you have to fall asleep. I was in that very instance of like, oh, this is good. Like, I'm about to go here.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'm about to go to sleep. Yep. I rolled to my right. My pillow fell on the floor, which is just a puddle. And now I've got no puddle. Like, I'm not bringing a soaking wet puddle back to my bed. Pillow? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 a pillow pillow you got it. And so then I was just up. So actually when the rooster came around and reeds now the rooster, read, I was so excited to get out of bed. I just couldn't get, I was, couldn't get ready fast enough. And then the alarm went off of rigs and he goes, holy shit. I actually said, holy shit. My alarm went off, I go, holy shit, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And I said it like two or three times. But the golf course could not be in better shape. I think, you know, we're kind of talking to a couple people, like even if you live in the area, like even your. front yard of your house, the grass hasn't grown yet. It just, there just hasn't been enough time. Like, nobody's had to go out and cut it yet. So the rough is the only concern.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I don't think it'll be a problem. They have a couple weeks still. It's supposed to be in the 60s or 70s, even a couple days in the next couple weeks. So as long as they get just a little bit of growth upward, that rough will be absolutely gnarly. But the rest of it, I mean, it was green. The fairways are perfect. The bunkers are perfect.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I have never seen the greens like that there in my life. Usually the greens are pretty solid. It's like rolling a ball on ice and not knowing where it's going to go and how far it's going to go and how fast it's going to go. It's like it's the most purest speed and like it's just nothing is. It's like that was the only way I could describe it mentally. It was like when I put this ball, it's like basically floating to the hole. Yeah. Not one bump.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's just so per. Yeah, that's more what I was going to say. Like they're fast. They're probably rolling at like a 12 or something pretty quick. But they just rolled so true. Perfect. If it was online, it wasn't going to falter off that. Like, they were perfect in terms of how they stayed true.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And then with regards to speed and everything, that was a definite test, especially coming off all the punch greens that we've been playing so far. It was, it was amazing. The fairways are so perfect that, like, when you go down and that you play any, like, municipal golf course or any, like, one that's not in that condition, you're on the fairway. You're able usually to, like, pick up some, like, blades of grass and check the wind and stuff. Because, you know, it's not, like, perfectly, you know, cut down to, like, its core. You try and pick up one blade of grass on the fairway at the fairway.
Starting point is 00:41:23 At the bedaded black, it's impossible. It like rips your fingers off because it's so it's basically like hitting off a green. The fairway is perfectly cut. A couple incredible stories. Frankie hit him with the bags not allowed on the T-box story. Oh, yeah. So we go, well, this is actually lurches' problem. But, you know, we're all nervous walking up to the first T.
Starting point is 00:41:42 We already explained that. And we go down this little steps, which to the right of the steps is the warning signs. It's like, listen, if you are Trent Ryan, you should not be stepping on this golf course. No, I'm just kidding. That was a shot. That was a pro hook. It was an upper cut. Yeah, that was me.
Starting point is 00:41:56 What fuck was that? There's a fucking warning sign. I was trying to tie it into four play. I'm sorry. It's probably right. No, it's a joke. It's a joke. Another miss?
Starting point is 00:42:04 So anyway, swinging a miss. I'm only, I'm off before another post. It was a swing, though, because I mean, you right hooked them. It's a joke. Swing and a hit, really? That was me. So the guy tells us we're on the tea. Yeah, so we're on the tea.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We walk past that fucking sign. We're all rattled. Lurch, obviously, like, was just ready to get up to the first tee because he brings his bag all the way up to like right next to the white to the white markers for the T-box. And everyone's like, that's fine. That's just like what you do on T-boxes sometimes, especially on the big first one. And some guy goes, I guess the starter goes up. And Michael Breed's right there.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He goes, no bags on the first T. And we're all like, oh, and Lurch immediately picks it up and walks it off. And Breed goes, ah, come on. Like, it's the first Tee. We can do that. And the guy looks Michael Bree, right in the eyes. And he goes, not at the black. I know that you can do that in some place.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Wherever you come from. Not the black. Look over to the green, that's fine. Yeah. Look over to the red. See that peasant golf course to the right? You can fucking put your golf bag on that. But not the black.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And not today while I'm here. No, no. I'm the keeper of these goddamn T-boxes and you will not set anything other than your feet, a T-or-a-T or a ball on this fucking crew on this T-box. Imagine if one of those took a divot out of the T-box, just a bad swing, driver swing, take a little divot. There's just like a trap. The door opens up and you just disappear underneath the block.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's a crazy elevation. You just fall straight down. Takes you right back into the tent. No, and then you actually get to play the rest of around, but you have to, like, walk out out of this grass door that lets you out to the fairway. And you're, like, all muddy and disgusting. Like, there was no easy fall. It kind of was, like, a hard, horrible wall.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It was no easy fall. A little truck door. There's just a sign on your way out. Just says, not at the black. Yeah. Yeah, learn. There was a... And then it became just a thing all day where there's a couple times Lurtj stepped on to, like,
Starting point is 00:43:48 the fourth D-box with his bag, and I just looked at him. I just said not at the black. Yeah, I will say the second hole I obviously didn't know that because it's kind of like an elevation, but on the third hole, the par three, I absolutely put my bag on the T-box and then immediately moved it off because like the way you walk from the second green to the third T-box, you have to put your ball, your bag on the T-Boss. Also, like the first T-Ball, where you come down the stairs, you're just on the T-box and the T-box isn't massive. So you literally have to put your bag like behind the grandstand to comply with his rules.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And there's a lot of other situations where you walk to it and the T-box is just massive so it feels right, But you're just, you're wrong. Yeah, I mean, we're standing on the T-Bucks. Like, I don't know what, like, a golf bag does to a T-box, but, I mean, it's the black. It's the black. It's the black. So we had, uh, our guy, Jake was out there running around with the camera the whole time. He filmed the entire round.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Carrying, like, a 40-pound camera bag. It was an unbelievable terrain that is the Bethpage Black. It's like 10 miles long, something like that. If he was standing, if you're looking at him from the side, the camera bag was 2x of the thickness of Jake. Yeah. And holding a pretty massive camera as well. Running around the 18 holes at Bethpage Black. Anybody that's walked it, it's a bear of a walk.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So Jake was running around, credit to him, capture and everything. We're going to have, that's a third video that we're going to have, which is going to be our round at the black. It was Trent Daddy and myself against these two clowns. Michael Breed gave you guys lurch a putting lesson. Lurch, one of the worst putters in my entire life. He did. He gave him a putting lesson.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And then he gave Frankie, who's obviously. obviously a viral sensation for how bad he is of chipping, gave him a chipping lesson, and then he just became fucking Phil Mickelson out of the cloud. It was one of the craziest things that's ever happened to me. I felt like it was fake. I felt like I was living in a dream. I don't want to give away the first hole too much, but I had a opportunity to hit a pretty big chip on one, and we were filming this.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know, Michael Brees plays the first hole with foreplay. And on the T-box, I don't think, so I missed, like, Michael Brees that night before. And I had talked to him very briefly on this podcast. once. So I really didn't have many interactions with them. And I showed up a little late compared to you guys. And I was, you know, I introduced myself on the first T. I'm like, I'm actually Frankie. We talked before. He goes, oh, Frankie has it going. He had no idea that I had like this chipping yips. Even though we talked about it, he just didn't remember. And I was like, yeah, today, if you can, I'd love to see how you can fix, you know, one of the worst things that's ever happened
Starting point is 00:46:11 to me. And he's like, well, we'll see, Frankie. Like, we'll see if that happens. And after the first T-Shire, I didn't think that was going to happen. But I end up having myself a situation in which I called him Actually I didn't even call him over there I was at the ball green side And it was a rooster It was very tough fucking chip man I had maybe I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:30 Seven or five five to seven feet to land this thing And I'm like Michael I see you walking over here And I see that you see what club I have in my hand But I don't think that this is the place That you should teach me Because there is no way I have any success here Even if you're fucking Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:46:44 There is no way I'm getting this ball Only five or seven feet in the air So he sees the way I'm swinging And he's like, you know, your practice swing is pretty good. Like, let me see what you're going to try and do. I take an actual swing. And he goes, now, where are you trying to hit that ball? I'm like, I'm trying to hit it right there.
Starting point is 00:46:57 He's like, with that swing? He said, yes. He's like, well, then why are you doing that? Why are you going after the hole? Pull it in. Bring it in a little bit. It's like, come in. Come out to in.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Why are you going out? I don't know. Everyone tells me to go towards the hole. It's a putting motion. He goes, don't listen to everyone. Bring it in. So I take one practice thing because that's it. I tell you right down.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I hit this thing. You want to talk about butter and eyes? I hit this thing like butter. I cut through this ball. It went four feet up in the air perfectly, like right up to my chin and just drop very softly and just rolled right to the hole. And it turned back to me, goes, now how about that? And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:47:34 All I needed to do was finish a different way. I'm going too far at the hole. I'm not pulling it in. I'm not like going across my body. What was I doing this whole time? He gave me a putting lesson, and his points are. so just short and simple. Keep it simple, stupid.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Like, he doesn't give you seven thoughts. He gives you one, have success. He told me to take the angles out of my putting grip. I don't even know what that means. Well, just, I do this whole pendulum kind of swing. Your putter is ridiculous. I have your putter in my room, by the way. How the hell do you have my...
Starting point is 00:48:01 I was wondering where my bag is... Yeah, long story. Long story short. Long story short. I put that in the notes. I was going to burning it up. I do this little pendulum motion. I do my elbows out, and then my wrists at like a 90-degree angle
Starting point is 00:48:14 back to the putter a little bit to try to. I don't know, act like a clock. This looks like the least athletic putting stuff. It looks like you're a sweeping, like, you know, like Cinderella sweeping the house. It looks like you're a 70-year-old woman who's trying to get a, like, find a new putting stroke.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You do. You look like you're raising an infant. Yes. So anyways, I told Breeder about my issues. We're having a good conversation that I before, a bunch of cocktails, really good time. Are you at the point with him where you can call him breeder? Do you think?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah. We're buddies. He breathes. He breathes good golf shots. Bang. It's pretty solid. So I tell him, I'm like, look, I hit the ball, all right. I'm a seven, but I can, I'm a terrible putter.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Like, there was one green a couple years ago. I five putt it. Like, I have a problem. I can't really get the ball on the hole very well. And so he sees me the next morning. And he literally, he comes up to me. He's like, let's see this putting stroke. And he thinks that I have, like, a physical, like an issue with the way that I can
Starting point is 00:49:07 put the ball. Like, he's like, there's got to be a hitch or something. So he sees me hit one, sees me hit two. And he's like, okay, it's much better than I, thought, like in terms of just it's fluid. But what he told me is there's so much inconsistency with the angles that I approach my pendulum or my baby rocker in terms of my elbows and then also my wrist position that he said just take the angles out of it.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And so now there's more consistency because there's less consistency and how many angles I bring to the putter face. So it's going to be more consistent, which is all I'm really looking for. So he said take the angles out and I had a good day putting what you'll see. I had no idea what the fuck you're talking about, but that's good. for you. I think the main part that we need to get to is that your putters in my room right now. That's outrageous.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So what happened was this. Okay. Lurch had to run and catch a flight to Chicago right after we finished golf on Saturday. He said, I'm going to leave my clubs with you, Riggs. You take it back to the apartment back in Manhattan. I said, no problem. Then we went in, we got lunch, a couple beers, came out, completely forgot your clubs with it. Just didn't even think of them at all.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Couldn't have been further away from my radar. Come on. Walked right by those rack of gloves and didn't even think anything else. Come on. I mean, we had a bunch of bags, right? So I had like a clothes bag, a footjoy bag, my golf clubs. I got all this shit, throw it all in the Uber. We're exhausted, right?
Starting point is 00:50:23 We're just exhausted. I'm sleeping in the Uber, basically. I pop up. I'm like, oh, shit. I forgot his clubs. They're just at that page by themselves. We walk by those. Not even like in a private area.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It's just right in the front, right in front, right off the fucking park. Walked by those clubs like I didn't even know who you were. That's amazing. I got back last night. I was so tired. I looked around. I didn't see my clubs in, like, the living room or my bedroom. And then I just figured they were in your room, but I wasn't going to, like, go in there and check.
Starting point is 00:50:49 But I was like, they got to just be in there. We were in the most. Turns out they weren't. We were in the most severe traffic on the way back in an Uber. I couldn't wait to just get back to the apartment and go to sleep. I was like, well, I don't, like, there's nothing I can do now. Riggs, he was sitting all the way in the back of this SUV, me and office manager, Brett, wearing these two, the two seats up front.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And all of a sudden Riggs head pops up front. He says, I have terrible news. And I was like, what could that pay? Everything seems okay right now. The car has four wheels. The driver seems sober. And then he was like, we forgot Lurch's clubs. It got to the point in my head where I thought, like, all right, I got enough connections.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I can get him a new set of clubs. I get him a bag. I get him some clubs. And then I hit up Frankie. He was like, hey, dude, are you anywhere near? Like, the court still? Like, is there any way you can swing by and grab Lurch's clubs? And Frankie's like, I'm, yeah, I can handle it.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I can take care of it. Yeah. And he texted me that, I don't know, three o'clock. And I was like, yeah, I can do that. And then things started to get really busy for me with, like, work. And Dave was texting me, and I was doing a bunch of stuff for them from Talladega. And, like, before you knew it, it was fucking 9 o'clock in night. And I still hadn't picked up Lurch's golf clubs.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I'll be straight up honest with you. That's fine. I'm like, they'll still be there. I'll still be there. And, yeah, I got to the golf course around 10, 10 o'clock at night. There was a wedding going on. The lights were all on. People were walking around.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And I'm like. Just using my clubs, chipping around the ground and stuff. I said to my girlfriend, who was driving me, I'm like, I'm like, his clubs are gone. These are gone. I mean, someone, like, asked us if they wanted to valet our car. I'm like, no, we're just here to find something. I ended up walking around. Why didn't you tell them?
Starting point is 00:52:26 No, I just said something. I wanted to leave a little bit of a surprise for that guy. Like, what was that guy looking for? He'd go back to his ballet buddies. What do you think that guy is doing here? What do you think something mean? And I'm like, and this is like, like, that's a pretty nice place to get married at, that, like, Carlislele on the green at Bethpage. Real nice spot.
Starting point is 00:52:41 and I'm walking around in like pajamas basically. Like I'm wearing like crocs and sweatpants. I'm looking for lurches, golfs. All of a sudden you just see that, that awful head cover you have on there. There's like a brown head cover. I don't even think that's... Cabot head cover?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah, I don't like you. I think it's ugly. Couldn't agree more. I think the brown is hitting. I think the brown is disgusting. I see this thing glistening in the light. I'm like, there it is. I find it's got the whole...
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's got everything on it. All your clubs are there. You're weird putter. You got like a baby belly putter? Child belly putter. What is? that thing. His fucking grip goes down to his shin.
Starting point is 00:53:15 His grip goes down to a shell belly putter, so it's a little bit longer. It never touches your belly though. Like the 35, 36 inch putters are all too short, even 38's a little short. And this was probably like a 45 inch potter. Never touches your belly. Never touches my belly. It's just a child belly putter. Like a child was going to use it, but instead I'm using it.
Starting point is 00:53:31 So it's like a normal putter. So anyways. What a good switch. So Frankie was able to grab the clubs, which is huge. grabs the clubs, text me at like 11 o'clock at night, and is like, I secured Lurch's clubs. It was diceyer than I expected. I thought it might be over, but I secured his clubs. So we were able to get him.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Thank God. For anybody who doesn't understand how this world works, Frankie had to just run out of here because he's being summoned by his boss, which is Dave Portnoy to do other stuff. So that's how that story ends the round. It was incredible. It was a beautiful day. The scores, we're going to reveal. the scores in the video that comes out, which we will put out in the next couple weeks. Either next week or maybe the week of the PGA Championship.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Haven't decided yet, but it'll cover the entire round, you know, all the highlights, all the funny moments, what scores we shot, how the match went, and all that good stuff. Beth Page Black. Cannot wait. Cannot wait for the PGA Championship there. Now, I'm going to go through a couple headlines real quick. Before we move on from the Black, I just wanted to say, and I wish Frankie was in here for this, shout out to you. guys for letting me tag along. It was a tough day for me out on the course. You guys are much better golf than I am. That's pretty clear. You guys are very nice while I was out there. We had a good time.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I had a lot more shots than you guys, but you guys were nice enough to, you know, we were, we had a good day out there. Oh, we had a great time. I'm going to throw it right back to you, Trent, in terms of how much of a pleasure it was to play with you. Okay. I really enjoyed it. That's great. Just because, I mean, you're, you're a tremendous fellow. Because, you know, Maybe it wasn't going perfectly for you on that day. Yep. But hell, you played through it and you have maybe some of the best mannerisms and best post-shot expression that I've ever seen and you keep a smile on all day.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And I'll tell you what, there was many instances where we hit T shots together and we putted together on the green, but I didn't see you from T to Green at all. Yes. You'd walk up to the green and just beads of sweat on your head. Talk about the terrain that we didn't see because we weren't even close to where you were. and you'd be like, this is a hell of a hole. And off we go and you go to the next T-box and the smile on your face and you'd rinse and repeat and do it again.
Starting point is 00:55:45 So I'll play with you anytime. Oh, yeah, 100%. I really appreciate that. My guy Jake can attest to it more than anybody else. We saw parts. I told you guys when we were playing. I was like, I'm seeing a completely different golf person. I'd like to publicly apologize because I was filming Trent
Starting point is 00:56:00 and there was literal tears coming down my eyes watching Trent. There's one. shot and it's going to be in the video where Trent's ball has got to be five inches into the ground. We were walking. We walked so much of that course. We compared steps and it wasn't as drastic afterwards, but, man, there were hills and I just called it terrain.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I went through a lot of terrain that day just to find my ball, and it was a battle. Trent, your attitude never wavered the entire day. You had that big smile on your face, and you, Lurch is right. You hit a couple shots and you just go, Trent Michael, right? As you made contact, not in the mean way, not in a frustrated way, just kind of a Trent Michael and like big old smile on your face. And you count it every shot. So that's another thing. You know, it would have been so easy.
Starting point is 00:56:52 There were a couple times where, like Laird said, I saw you tee off. I didn't see you again until you put it out on the green. I had no idea what you were doing the whole time, no clue. You know, we kind of were chit-chat. And I know you and Jake kind of hustled off. Bretto was over there with you maybe. Yep. Then we reconvened on the green.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I had no idea. You could have made a seven. have made a 15. I had no clue. And I would ask you on the T, you know, every couple holes a bit. I'm, I'm really sorry. I didn't, you know, I usually don't do this. I'm usually pretty good at keep a trap.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You know, what did you make on 12 and 13 there? And you pull out your phone. You go, I've been writing down on the numbers. And you'd be like, I had a 14 and a 10. And like, I got to give you credit that. Anyone else in the world would have been like, I just took an 8 there or something like that. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:57:33 You're like, yeah, hold on. Yep, no, that was a 14. And I cannot express you enough how much in that moment I was like, fuck yeah, Trent Daddy. He's going to post a score. And you have a number. And that's just your number. That's just how many it took you to play the golf course. I feel very good about that after we added it all up.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It's just good to have a number. It is. Regardless of how high that number is, it's just good to have a number. 100% agree. This is a place you got to start. You know. And then the rest of the way, the rest of the golf I play this season, you just got to keep chipping away and chipping away. People go there.
Starting point is 00:58:03 They pick up after six. I even on the first hole said that's. good and you looked at me like no it's not and then i was like trent if you want to play every ball in the hole i want you to do it because we're out here and do it and you did exactly that you absolutely did true and you rocked khakis and a rain jacket for all 18 holes walking the least breathable clothing i've ever seen and a smile never left your face so trent congrats to you it was a lovely great everything's lovely awesome i had a i had a tremendous this time.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Me too. It was really a fun round to go. Me too. Couldn't agree more. Me too. Are your credit card bills keeping you up at night? Interest rates in the double digits? Well, be smart, pay off your credit card balances, just like we did with a credit card
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Starting point is 00:59:50 Terms and conditions apply and offers are subject to change without notice. Visit lightstream.com slash four for more information. All right, we've got to run through some headlines really quickly. Tiger Woods skipping the Wells Fargo this week. We found this out a while we are a couple beers deep at the footjo event. Tiger Woods is just going to, he's just exclusively a big game hunter now. He's a major player.
Starting point is 01:00:13 He's just going to play majors. It's tough when you just come. It's tough when you just like play in the Masters and you just win to like get up for anything else. And we talked about it as fans. We talked about as viewers and I cannot believe, although I can believe that it's made its way to Tiger's head. Like Tiger just can't get up for these little mini tours.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Which are you nuts? He's there to win fucking majors. He's there for one reason, one reason only. the win major. You know what this says to me too? Is that he is, so he's at 81 wins, right? 82 ties the record. Samstein's record of the most wins in the history of the PGA tour.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And you can tell even the last five or six years when he has played, like he's played a lot of different tournaments and he kind of got the sense that like he's playing as many as you can because he really wants to get to 83. Yep. Now, this sends the message to me that he's like, 83 is done. I'm
Starting point is 01:01:01 here for fucking majors. I know I'm going to get to 83. I was looking at the potential schedule. I don't know. I don't really see him playing anything much more beyond this, that his schedule is going to go like this. Masters, PGA Championship, the Memorial, U.S. Open, British Open. What a schedule. That's outrageous. I think those are the only five tournaments he's going to play. I looked like, I was trying to find something between the U.S. Open and the British Open that he'll play and maybe he'll sneak something in there. But I'm not convinced he's going to play between the U.S. Open and the British Open,
Starting point is 01:01:37 in which case he's legitimately going to go Masters, PGA Championship, the Memorial, the U.S. Open, the British Open. That's an outrageous schedule. I mean, he said he wanted to cut back on how much he was playing. That's cutting back. At the end of last year, he was like, I'm exhausted. Because then after that, there's the WGC St. Jude, which he loves WGCs.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He takes those things very seriously, and then basically the playoffs. He's going to play the playoff events, I'm sure. I don't know if he'll play all of them because it'll probably be really high in the playoff range, but there's only three of them now anyways. So you've got to think like that might just be his entire year, which is just incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:11 There's no warm-ups. It's just go time. He's just going to appear at major chamberships. And as we sit here right now, the Grand Slam is still in play. It's also true. Like if he was playing this weekend at the Wells Fargo, like even if he's in the mix, it is awesome to watch him play golf. Don't be around.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I would rather have that and not have it. However, it would be a little bit of a, like, if he went on a tear and won by like six or seven this week, it'd be kind of like, that was a waste, like saving for the majors. Right. What are we doing out of here? What is this?
Starting point is 01:02:39 But it would get you very, if he went out one by six or seven, you would. Get you going, but it's also like when you're on the range or like an amateur player, like someone that's not really playing well like me. I had a really good shot off a range. I'm like, why did I just waste that? That could have been off my first tee. That's like how I think with Tiger. It's like we're at a point.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yeah, it's a little different, but, you know, there's some reasoning to it where it's like, this guy only has a certain amount of unbelievable. rounds left. Let's not waste them at the Zurich Classic. You know, I get it. So I agree, and it's, it is amazing. He's going to play back-to-back tournaments or just major championships, which is awesome. I'm obsessed with that. I've never really seen that before. So that was kind of surprising news. Also, kind of not. It didn't feel like he felt, you know, like very rushed, like he was going to play the Wells Fargo. We didn't hear a whisper about it. And then he just doesn't. So it's a bummer. We won't get to see him,
Starting point is 01:03:29 but hilarious. The Tiger just only plays major championships now. And then the last thing, Zurich Classic, the team event, Ryan Palmer, who we've had on this very show. Great guy. Awesome guy, yeah. He did an interview with us while he was driving his son to hockey practice. That's correct. I believe. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:44 A couple of years ago, you can go check that out. That was a throwback to our first year, I believe, 2017 when we were doing this show, which is myself and Trent Daddy at the time. Yep. And he was an awesome guy. Like, one of the nicest guys you ever had on the show. He and John Rahm teamed up, which seems like a stunning pairing, and they won. They won the Zurich Classic, so good for them.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Maybe probably good to have a good to have a good to have a good. calming presence with John Round, that fucking psychopath, and that probably helped them get the job done down there. Excuse me. And then Kevin Kisner, tied for fifth, him and Scott Brown, won $190,000 each. Not a bad paid day. No. I mean, Kisner just is the king of not a bad pay days. Kevin, not a bad pay day, Kisner.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Guy makes money. Not like... That's an outrageous sum. Yeah, it's an outrageous sum, but there's guys out there that are making far more than him, right? But he's just making great money on the tour. Making great money. He, like, flies under the radar with how much he just accumulates. He's an accumulator.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah, he does. It just adds up. Like, the fact that he has nearly $20 million in career earnings right now is off the charts. Outrageous. Off the charts. Who has more career earnings? Him or Tony Fino? It's got to be kids.
Starting point is 01:04:53 He's been doing it for longer, right? I would think so. All those, like, T2s of. Yeah, that's true. It's got to be kids. I'm going to guess kids. but I don't know for sure. Good question, Frank.
Starting point is 01:05:03 That is a good one. Thanks, guys. We'll look that up while we're, um, I also want to acknowledge that kids got a whole-on-one-one this week, and the PJ tour just doesn't have any footage of it. 14 and a half million. For Fino. Fee now. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Kids has like, because it has like five mil more. Yeah. Holy smokes. That's pretty legit. That is pretty legit. He's just the, Mr. Consistency. Shout out Tony Fee now. The guy's fucking young.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Already 14 mil. Yeah, that's strong too. 14 and a half months. Speaking of the ages, Justin Thomas turned 26 today. That's nuts. I know. I'm in the same age. It's so young.
Starting point is 01:05:37 It's so young. He's a baby. Spring chicken. When I saw that number, I knew he was young, obviously, but I mean. This is what happens. I mean, I'm sure it happens to you guys because you guys are older than him now. But, like, when these guys are my age or younger, it's a fucking horrifying thing that they're accomplishing this stuff. Big time.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I'm just, like, talking about him. So, like, I remember when I was younger, I was, like, 19. I guess Johnny Goodro, like, first came into the league. He may have even been 18. And he first, it was like, Johnny Hockey. He's in the league for the Calgary Flames, and, like, we have the same exact birthday, like August 13, 1993, exact day.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. And I remember, like, looking that up, like, when I was in the locker room waiting to meet him, like, he was going to walk by, and I was like, I don't even want to shake this kid's hand because, like, I'm a fucking little kid in the locker room, like, with a sign. Like, hey, Johnny,
Starting point is 01:06:15 and this fucking kid's in the professional occupier. Same day we were born, two different totally lives. So kids had his first home on one on the BGA tour, and they just didn't, they have no footage of it. What does that mean? Just none? None.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I haven't seen a video. Suric. classic is a joke. What are they doing down there? What are they doing? The guy makes an ace. How do you not have a camera on every single part three? I even tweeted every hole.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I mean, they do. They just didn't have them running, I guess. That's what they're doing after that. If one of us had made a hole in one on Saturday, there would be more footage of that than there is if Kevin Kisner's at the second. There's someone in the controller, out of control. Someone just didn't, someone just didn't hit. Took a bathroom break.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Just oops. Those things should be running, though. I mean, there's no like. No, you'd think, man. You think saving footage. Like, oh, we need. some camera space. I don't really understand that.
Starting point is 01:07:00 You would think legit anyone, someone would have a video for me. I even tweeted it out. I Instagrammed about it. I haven't seen anybody send me a video yet. Nobody had a fucking cell phone. Nobody's got their cell phone out, recording it, something. So not happy with the folks down there at the Zurich Classic. Kind of show where they're running down there.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Trent was talking about YouTube last week. I mean, this would have been a great thing to drive a little traction. Kisner hits a whole in one at the Zurich. Hand out. We fucked up the YouTube. segment. Yeah, we did. That was a big fuck up.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They're everywhere. Turns out that guy's whole email, he's like, what do you think about the PGA tour putting all of Tigers 81 wins on YouTube? It's a read thing. It's a reading comprehension thing. I will say, they did not do the thing where they had the entire final round, like I said, like the Masters does where you get to watch it in real time. They do these like 40 to like 60 minute like highlight things, which I'm not obsessed
Starting point is 01:07:58 with. Also, in those things, they cut out, like in the commercial breaks that are in the real footage. They kept the time and just put a blank screen on, so it just cuts away for like a minute and a half while you're watching. And I have to then throw my Xbox controller back on, fast forward for 90 seconds, and play again. It's outrageous. Xbox controllers turn off a little too quickly. Well, I turn mine off to conserve batteries. That's smart.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You know what I'm saying? Mine just turn off and I'm like, I've got to turn this thing on again, and that takes a full. I'm a PlayStation guy. You don't need batteries. Are you nuts? I can be talked to. to PlayStation. I'm not obsessed with you. Also, the interface is awful, horrible.
Starting point is 01:08:33 PlayStation's incredible. It's an incredible system. I'm not all that loyalty either one. Yeah. It's a better controller. It's a better controller. I've just been a Xbox guy forever, but I'm not incredibly loyal to it. If I came back one day and someone had just swapped out my Xbox for a PlayStation,
Starting point is 01:08:51 I wouldn't be upset about it. Yeah, and we have new systems coming out soon, I think. Really? Is that right? I will tell you, in this old like this, uh... Five? cord cutting thing. Cord cutting thing with like new ways to consume TV and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Sling TV sucks. Sling TV's off. It's the worst mistake we ever made. But like Xbox Microsoft should have a better interface for using and working through TV. They just don't. It's awful. So if there was a better option, I would. PlayStation is live TV.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Well, show me a live demo. All right. All right. Next up, I know that's kind of an abrupt way to end it, but that's just what we do on the show. Next up we got Jimmy Walker. We'll be back Thursday with our second show of the week. Jimmy Walker's up next. Great dude.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Enjoy this chat. All right. So Trent's our big clap guy. It's an incredible talent. 90% of what I do on this podcast is I clap. It's really quite impressive. We're joined by a very special guest, 2016 PGA champion, Jimmy Walker. So we just met you for the first time.
Starting point is 01:09:50 We're in a little, what do you call this? Airstream. Airstream. At the foot joy situation, why don't you tell everybody because we're at Beth Page. You're, of course, PGA champion. You know a lot more about this. stuff than we do tell everybody where we're at and what's kind of going on so we are at beth page state park the golf courses the black course and tomorrow is the last day that the normal
Starting point is 01:10:11 everyday folk can go play it for the pj championship yeah you guys you can say us i'm i don't even know if i could go play it on sunday but i can try we're here but anyways that's what's happening and so footjoy decided to do a little promotional deal and go pull the people that stay in their cars all night and stand in line to get a tea time to go play. And so they figured that there'd probably be a lot of people here being at the last time you get to play it for the PGA. And Mother Nature hadn't been real nice to us today. It's been pouring rain, which is a little tough. But I will say it kind of opened up right when you walked in.
Starting point is 01:10:50 So you might have a little magic going on. I got some clout. Yeah, a little weather clout. I'll take it. I'll take that. As a defending champ, it feels like you, or as a champ. As a former champ, it feels like you got a little bit of clout. I will say, so people talk all the time about how winning a major changes your whole life and all that.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I feel like I saw that in an incredible form when you walked in with a gigantic Watermaker trophy. Everybody just started going nuts. It's pretty cool. Everybody, I think all the people that they pulled out were out getting fitted for all their gear and all their shoes, and they saw me walk in with it, and they got a pretty good little cheer for it. The Watermaker's huge. It is. It's a big one.
Starting point is 01:11:26 It puts all the other major trophies to shame for sure. It just completely dominates. It does. So Beth Page, like you mentioned, a lot of people out here, you know, we work, live in the city. Anybody kind of out in the New York area, Long Island area knows Beth Page pretty well. If you don't, what kind of information can kind of you give them? What are you feeling about the course moving to May? What are just kind of your thoughts about the PGA of Beth Page and May?
Starting point is 01:11:51 I think it's going to be, it's going to be a little different. It's going to have a little different feel probably. I know when we played the, I haven't played the players in March like it used to be. So I'd always played it in May. So we're there, it was more the week before. We're like, is this really the players next week? It just doesn't quite feel like that. And to think of the PGA championship, which was always the last major, to be the second in May is going to feel weird.
Starting point is 01:12:20 But I think once we get here and we see everything that's going on and it's going to have all the feels that, having a major has and especially up here in this area because it gets wild. Yep. Oh, it gets rowdy up here. I think people are expecting to get a little rowdy. The weather is going to be kind of hit or miss. We all look at the black course, the sign, the caution sign and all that about how difficult it is, how tough it is. How do you kind of approach that?
Starting point is 01:12:50 Do you look at it as, wow, this is going to be an unbelievable test? Do you think it favors your game? How do you look at the black, maybe? how the average guy looks at the black. It's definitely a challenge, the challenge for everybody. I played here in 2002. It was my second U.S. Open I played in
Starting point is 01:13:06 and remember how tough it was. It even played soft, too. And so it played long, but usually when a golf course gets soft, it plays easier. But for whatever reason that week, it didn't. The rough was incredibly deep. Being May,
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't know if it's, I don't know if the grass is growing or if it's, you know, kind of, I'm not going to say it's not dormant. but I don't know how thick and lush it's going to be. I honestly have no clue. You guys have a better idea.
Starting point is 01:13:33 We haven't gotten much sunlight. Yeah. I don't know. There's no sun. Right. So it'll just be interesting to see it when it gets here. I've seen pictures and a lot of the fescue grass is dormant. So you get this really cool contrasty-looking golf course with the long fescue grass, the green grass.
Starting point is 01:13:49 So look standpoint, it looks pretty awesome. I was going to say they nailed the aesthetics. Yeah, it looks good. Whatever they do with that, it looks good. We're not big science guys, but I do. do think that we haven't seen any sunlight yet and therefore grass doesn't grow that's kind of what I think photosynthesis that's the word that's a science word of the day that's the word that's the word that's the word that popped into my head I think you nailed that I think it's the right one so speaking
Starting point is 01:14:14 to science we got to talk astronomy but all right it wasn't the word of the day to you telling me it wasn't correct I don't think that's right so what do you think it was give us a little scientific lesson here I think I think photosynthesis is a conversion of carbon dioxide to oxygen. That sounds right. I don't know. Sound guy agrees. That doesn't sound right to me.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I'm pretty sure that's what it is. No, he's like, I'm pretty sure he's 100% sure. And you're just wrong. Agree to disagree. That's what's great about science. Is that the only word that you know about, like, plants is photosynthesis? You threw it out there? Kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:46 All right. But that's what's great about science is nobody really knows the answers. Can we talk astronomy? Yeah. So I was on your Instagram a couple of years ago. I think I started following you on Instagram. And I started telling these guys, I was like, I've been going through.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Jimmy Walker's fucking Instagram, and he just posts pictures of, like, the galaxy all the time. Where's that come from? Where does that interest come from? It started about eight years ago. It started with a, what do you want for Christmas? And I said, I want a telescope. So I got one. And then I kind of started trying to hook a camera up to it and trying to figure out how to do that.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And then it turned into just some, a crazy obsession. I ended up putting telescopes in really dark spots. across the country and now we just moved it to Chile. And so we get to take a peek at the southern sky. It just started working operational like last week, two weeks ago. Where's the darkest place you have a telescope? In Chile. That's the only place I've got one right now.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But, you know, it's like, where's your telescope? Well, mine's in Chile. How often are you in a conversation where that question comes up? It's funny. You know, I get asked a lot because I went through a spell where I wasn't posting a whole lot of astronomy stuff. Okay. I've been having Lyme disease the last couple of years.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I haven't had a whole lot of time at night to do a lot of stuff. It's mostly just get the kids of bed and I fall asleep with them, damn near every night. So I haven't had a lot of the drive to do it. It's been gone. And now that I'm feeling back to 100% and the move down there, like I'm super stoked to get back at it. Like I've got an image where we'll be shooting, it might be working right now. and one more night on one target, and I'll have a really nice, like,
Starting point is 01:16:29 set of data to go over to make a new picture. What's your favorite constellation? Constellation. Uh, shoot, I don't know. Constellations are too big. Is that a lame question? You could say that. It is pretty shitty.
Starting point is 01:16:44 It felt like you were like, I mean, like, that's not dog shit. We need to do better. Constellation is, like, two mainstream astrology. You're sort of into the different... Astrology. Yeah, astrology is, like, the study of, you know, know the constellations and your horoscope and no not into that that's kind of hocus
Starting point is 01:16:59 it is hocus focus it's more astronomy like we're more science guys we said astronomy photosynthesis I shouldn't have that astrology that was the wrong word you said it you can't photosynthesis there's like crazy astrologists on Twitter and stuff who always try to get into it with the astronomers a very confusing world yeah I can't they're quacks clearly confusing so what would have been a better question like tell me about I got I got a question we got a guy at work who always says that nothing that we say that we say or do matters because we're all going to get swelled up by the sun and die anyways. That's just pretty sad way to live your life, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I agree, but do you... Is he a drunk? Is he an alcoholic? Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. I mean, you look out there and you see all that. I mean, something made it.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I think it's a pretty sad way to live your life. We're all going to die. Yeah, well, it's true, but, you know... Sounds like he's kind of convincing you here a little bit. I'm not convinced. I'm convinced we're all going to die. When you look, when you do a lot of your telescope and all that, or do you become more or less convinced that there's aliens out there?
Starting point is 01:18:02 Oh, more convinced. Oh, you're convinced. Oh, totally convinced. You're a big alien guy? No, I don't have aliens visited the planet? I doubt it. But when you just look at what's really cool, all the exoplanetary research is going on,
Starting point is 01:18:15 I mean, they're finding tons and tons of planets around the closest stars to us. I mean, and it's, they're finding out that there's more planets out there than they've ever, than they thought. And, you know, with a hundred billion stars in our galaxy, and there's a hundred billion galaxies, and you just do the math. Yeah. We can't be the only ones.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It's pretty simple. I wouldn't think. Which one's the one that looks for planets? Hubble? Is that Hubble telescope? No, Hubble, I don't think Hubble does. It's some really, it's a different way of doing it. Something about, I'm not crazy into it, but Hubble's more deep space.
Starting point is 01:18:54 You ever use your connections to hit up NASA? I'd be like, I want to look at some crazy shit. I thought about it. You should. I thought about it. But actually all of the data that Hubble acquires is on a archive site, and you can get on there and pull any data set that the Hubble's ever taken. So you can actually get on there and look at anything that the Hubble's ever taken a picture of
Starting point is 01:19:20 and put it together and make an image out of it. Wow. That is awesome. That's a little known fact. That's way beyond archaicability. Have you been through those files? You go. I have actually looked at it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I have. It sounds like a good time. Well, it's, it takes a level of Photoshop that I'm not in. I'm not that good at it to be able to splice and merge all these pictures together. And it's, it's pretty intense. Like the people that do these pictures for NASA with the data that they have, the data looks, it looks really bad. And I don't know how they do it, but it's pretty amazing. See, we, like, we spend our free time, I feel like surfing, like, we go down rabbit holes on Game of Thrones theories and stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Dude, how good is that right now. Everybody's going to die on Sunday. See? Now you're coming around on the whole idea of everybody dying. You've got some dark stuff. Everybody's going to die. It's like your buddy. Everybody's going to die.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Yeah, exactly. Why are we going to watch it then if everybody's going to die? That's a good counter. He's just like Jared. Yeah. He's just like Jared. Everybody's going to die like us. Why are we going to watch this?
Starting point is 01:20:22 You're a Thrones guy? Yeah, we've been watching it. Who do you think's going to win? White Walkers. See? I like, is that because the name's the same? I mean, like, yeah, pretty much. The Jimmy White Walkers?
Starting point is 01:20:32 Nice. You go fight them. You fight them. You kill a living. They just walk up and, like, touch him. Oh, I got another guy for our side. It's very easy to recruit for them. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And then, like, is the Night King a Targaryen? Because he can ride a dragon? I thought only that, you know, Targaryians could ride a dragon. John Snow. John Snow. I mean, yeah, it's, I don't know what's going to happen, but it's going to be awesome. It really is amazing their recruiting process, how simple it is. It is.
Starting point is 01:21:01 It's not fair. He lifts his arms, and everybody's like, war with that guy. Yeah. It's pretty insane. Think about what our military, how they mean you'd be taking notes. Night King's recruiting processes off the charts. Where do you think he's at? He wasn't in the shot when they showed the White Walkers at the end, the Jimmy White Walkers.
Starting point is 01:21:18 He's there. I don't know. He's riding a dragon somewhere, so he couldn't see him. He's up there flying around and he's going to torch the joint. So the Masters this year A lot of people kind of buzzing You've of course you've been you've been
Starting point is 01:21:31 On teams with Tiger Woods Teams that Tiger Woods is part of in some capacity You've already been out on tour for a really long time As has Tiger What do you think kind of The Masters the way it went down means for kind of golf going forward I think it's It's great
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's great to see him Put all the hard work And time that he's put into Getting himself back into shape and never doubted the guy as a winner. I mean, guys won more golf tournaments and big golf tournaments and just gotten it done. So you don't ever forget how to do that, but it was a matter of him being able to physically go play golf again and walk and do all that.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And, you know, I don't know how many backsters are you had four or something. And, you know, it's a testament to him as a person and getting back into getting his body. body back right you know he kept kept going at it if the surgery didn't work he had another one he had another one and he finally got to where he could do it i mean it was two years ago you watch him walk upstairs he couldn't even walk upstairs it was brutal and you're like you felt for him like man i don't know if he's ever i had my doubts like i don't know if he can ever play golf again you know then you then you worried about it was a quality of life deal for him it's like watching some of these football players when they get older you know they're just kind of they just don't look good and you're
Starting point is 01:22:53 like, man, one more hit. It was like watching, you know, huge Cowboys fan when Romo was going through all that at the end of his career. And we're like, man, just shut it down, man. You're like, get off. Get on the boot. One more hit, and you're going to break an half, you know? And I was happy to see him do it. He did.
Starting point is 01:23:08 So it's good. It's good for golf. It's good for the game. And you could really feel it. My Instagram search feed is all Tiger Woods right now. Same. So you touched on it earlier, but as a guy yourself, you've had. You've gone through some struggles the last couple years with the disease and all that.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Do you take some kind of inspiration from seeing someone else come back, go through some hard times, and then get back to the top? Oh, definitely. I mean, I think as an athlete, we've all had our ups and downs, and they may not be as in the limelight of the media as some of the others that you see. But I think we all have our ups and downs, and everybody that's been on tour for a long time, I know has. So seeing what he did was great. I really applaud the guy for doing it.
Starting point is 01:23:57 It's really cool. And what a cool place to do it too, you know. It was awesome. So where are you at? Where are you at? Health-wise, game-wise, how you feeling? Going into kind of the meat really now that we're getting into of the season with a bunch of majors coming up and all that. Physically, it feels great.
Starting point is 01:24:15 There's a component mentally and physically to Lyme disease, and I felt like the, the physical got better, and then I was dealing with a little bit of the, like, mental stuff a little bit about just feeling foggy and the brain-to-body connection not being good. And I think that that's, I think that's starting to get better now. I haven't played great this year, but I'm making all the cuts, but I keep finishing, like, 40th and 50th and 30th, and you just can't vault up the FedEx points. and but the master's felt good. I was proud. I was happy with that. I had three really good rounds before in San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:25:00 And I've practiced hard the last two weeks. And I've only played twice, but both rounds were deep into the 60s. So that was nice to see on two different golf courses at home. And so that's nice to see, seeing the birdies. And I feel good. So I'm real excited to go start at Charlotte next week and then play four in a row. And then we get the kids out of school and go to Utah. Sounds lovely.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Yeah. What's the most nervous you've ever been over a golf shop? Playing with Tiger Woods. I was, this is so easy. It came right to you. Oh, it's a great. It's a funny story. It's a good story.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I qualified for the Byron Nelson in 2001 as an amateur. And I was right in the middle of finals at school. You know, my parents told me not to try to qualify because I was going through finals. And I ran their credit card anyways and went and did it. And I qualified. Like that move. Relatable move. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:52 So qualified, and I had to go into a playoff the next morning because we ran out of daylight. So I drove back to Baylor and then went back up to Dallas that next morning and qualified. And I had to run back down and go take a test. And then I had to talk to, like, two other teachers and tell, like, hey, this just happened. Is there any chance you can let me take the final, like, after the week? And they're like, oh, yeah, no problem, whatever. So I go back up there. and it's Tuesday late afternoon and I'm running around and tigers out there
Starting point is 01:26:23 he's skipping around holes and he skips over to my hole and it's like five in the afternoon nobody's on the golf course except him and I and he skips over hits a drive on the par five that I'm on I'm on the green and I walk up to the next tee which is a par three and he picks up his drive and walk straight to the par three tee he's like hey man I'm just playing a couple holes can I can I play through I'm trying to play fast and I was like yeah sure man you can do what hell you want you're tiger wood and I'm just some college kid, whatever. So he tees off first on the par three,
Starting point is 01:26:56 and he looked like he hit a good shot. It's like an eight iron or whatever it was. So I'm like, I can't even get the peg in the ground. I can't get the ball on the tee. Every bad thought is going through my head. I'm shaking. I'm nervous. Don't shake it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Don't fat it. Don't thin it. I mean, everything is going through my head. And I make a swing and I hit it. And it felt good. And I look up. and it's going right at the flag. And I'm just like, oh, thank God.
Starting point is 01:27:23 So we start walking down and we're talking. And he's like, what are you doing? I'm going to qualify. I'm still in school. He's like, cool, cool. And we get down on the grain. And his ball's like 12 feet. Mine's like eight.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And I was like, I'm like, damn. I'll never be that nervous again. I know in the history of my career, I'll never be that nervous again. And I haven't to this day. I was like, man, if I can hit that good a shot, being that petrified. It's like, I might be able to do this.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I was going to say, that's crazy. He's a guy who's come down the stretch and then played an insanely intense hole, 18th hole to win a major championship. Yeah, but in that situation, like, I mean, you're leading a major championship. You're firing all cylinders. I've always, you know, you've got to enjoy the times when you were on fire and playing good and hitting shots and making putts and never really get nervous under those situations because I know I'm doing good.
Starting point is 01:28:19 It's a lot harder when you're, you got nine holes to go on your two strokes back of the cut and you're playing horrible. You know, that's pressure. It's like, man, I don't play good on this next nine holes and make the cut. I'm going home. That's how I always, it's harder to play good.
Starting point is 01:28:36 It's harder to always felt more nervous when I'm not playing well because you're just like, man, I don't know, but when you're firing, like, enjoy that. It doesn't happen all that often, so really, wrap yourself around how cool that is, that feeling. What's your biggest superstition in the golf course? I don't know if I have any, honestly. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:28:58 That's what everybody says, and then what do you do every time you play? And then they go, like, well, I don't have any, but I only keep nine T's in my pocket at all times. I don't do that. I don't do that. Put one shoe on, your left shoe. No, I only, I play with ones and threes. What number?
Starting point is 01:29:14 Ball, that's it. That's about my only, like, superstition. I'm not a, I'm not a, I just made a birdie so that ball's done or I just made a bogey with that ball. It's done. I don't do that. Okay. No superstitions. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:29:28 No, that's all right. It's just, it is interesting because like we said, everybody starts with that. Usually they end up telling us like 15 of them. Yeah. But it sounds like you're pretty clean. I really don't. It sounds like you're pretty clean. I really do.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Favorite club in the bag? Oh, the favorite club's a putter. Because when that thing's on, it just, it's kick. It's an ass kicker. I mean, it's. it'll cure everything. Putter. What's the best golf shot you ever hit?
Starting point is 01:29:55 That one with Tiger sounded pretty good. That was pretty good. That was a pretty good shot. Second best golfs. There's so many, so many good shots. I mean, you could go down to, I remember when I won Pebble, I had to make about a four and a half footer
Starting point is 01:30:10 on those bumpy poana greens and the pro amps. There's way more people walking on the greens than there needs to be. To be able to make a putt to win a golf tournament on those greens. and that condition was pretty badass. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Well, Jimmy Walker, we don't keep you any longer. We appreciate you taking the time, being very candid and hanging out with us, and we're glad you're back out there, feeling good, playing good, and good luck the rest of the way. Thank you, Barstow. We appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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