Fore Play - The Buzzword Scientist
Episode Date: March 14, 2019It's an OG show as we take several From The Galleries and get hyped for The PLAYERS. We weigh in on the new PLAYERS trophy and theme song, on Tiger's new putting coach, on Jason Day's response to trol...ling, and on hardo golf twitter. In FTG we debate using beat up Pro V1s vs brand new crap balls and how to handle a partner who's terrified of the back nine (which is apparently a real thing)!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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We are back. Players' Championship Week, Tiger's back. There's a lot of shit going on.
Frankie's wearing just, I don't really know how to explain it. We got this new item.
I bragged about the fact that we got new 4-Play stuff coming out.
We also got the thermos that's sitting right in front of me that I put on sale today.
But we got new like spring stuff coming out. And Frankie's got, we only have one.
one sample of this Peter Malar.
You can't even call it a corsip.
It's got like buttons.
It's the nicest thing I have.
It is.
It's beautiful.
You just gave it to me and now I'm just wearing it.
I think I'll ever take it off.
And you're sitting in a pink chair.
I've never been as vibrant as I am right now.
So it's like this like vibrant, nice blue.
The type of blue that when you're walking through certain venues and certain golf tournaments
and you know you go to the pro shops.
Is it green?
I think it's blue.
But there's a word for it.
It's like it's a little.
Mint blue.
It's mint, not teal.
But it's some sort of water, right?
Teal, I think, like, Charlotte.
It's aqua blue.
It's aqua blue.
It's like aqua blue greenish.
This is the type of shirt that when you're walking through a pro shop and you're like looking at different types of shirts and different quarter zips and you see this color up on the on some sort of like, you know, the model thing, like the model bodies that always look incredible.
Yeah.
I'm going to fill it out just the mannequin.
I'm going to fill it out like that mannequin.
A hot jacked mannequin.
You look at this color on the model.
the mannequin, you're like, how can I not own that color?
Right?
You always have the typical greens on the golf course.
You always have the typical white and black.
And then you see this blue.
And it's stunning.
I can't tell you how many people looked at me like, whoa.
They said it's a whoa item.
How could you not get the response, whoa, when you're walking around with this vibrant of a shirt?
You look like spring.
Yeah.
I feel like spring.
You're just our spring.
You're spring.
And I'm sitting in this hot pink chair again.
We're in the downstairs studio.
This is built for chicks in the office
And built for call her daddy
And I'm just sitting
I mean
I'm sitting next to like a neon sinus
It says please don't do cocaine in the bathroom
I don't know where we're at
But I feel great
You always end up in the pink chair
The pink chair I don't know why
It's kind of your thing
Yeah
I guess because I'm soft and all that stuff
Yeah definitely
You got delicate features
There we go keep it coming
No no Midwestern boy
There we go
Come on Midwestern boy
Here we go
Come on
So players championship week
Players championship week
Players championship week.
Let's try to refocus here, golf podcasts.
We had Paul Asinger on on Tuesday's show.
If you missed it, if you haven't captured it yet, you haven't listened to it yet.
He was awesome.
He's obviously going to be on the call.
He's lead analyst for NBC.
He was a Ryder Cup captain with the United States, winning Ryder Cup captain,
partnered with Tiger, told all kinds of cool stories.
But it's Players Week.
I mean, when this podcast comes out, guys are going to be teeing off,
live stream, 17, final three holes, all that.
Pretty jacked up for that.
Of course looks, the greenest golf course I think I've ever seen that entire life.
It's so,
so agree they overseeded the fuck out of it they like did like five overseeds on it which just
makes it I mean it's just a lot like most luscious green thing I've ever seen so yet not greener
than Augusta never I mean that's not they can't do that that's not awesome is supernatural green
it's it's a type of have they you know here's a question have they named Augusta green is that
a type of green is that like a carada green it's got to be is Augusta green it's got to be
they've got it they wear the jackets like that's an Augusta green has to me you know like
Jake's saying yes I said it's that I'm
It's a color code for Augusta green.
I bet Darren Ravel knows it.
I mean, it has to be, right?
Everyone associates Augusta with green.
Do you think that's copyrighted?
Yes.
Like, we couldn't just name something Augusta green.
No, it's copyrighted.
It's that is the green.
You can't use it.
They own that green.
It's so green that they own it.
If we try to name something on our website, Augusta green,
like if we sold a shirt and we like this shirt is Augusta green,
I think two guys in Augusta green suits show up at our office.
with like Augusta green sunglasses on and they're like we have to we need to talk I'll never forget
when we were there and I think I was actually walking with Dave during one of the practice
rounds and someone did something during a practice round and these two men in green jackets just
appeared out of out of out of like the trees and just like fixed the problem like oh it was a
hole where they just appeared it was 11 11 yeah it wasn't down by the green on 11 down by the green
at 11, they just appeared
and the problem was solved.
There was a scurry on the green.
For anyone who doesn't know, at Augusta,
like the way the fans sit, the left
side of 11 is not a visitable
area. It's just trees.
There's a pond, obviously, down there
on the left side of 11th. Maybe you see a cabin
deep in the trees. Maybe. What is that?
There's some sort of hut back there. It's a hut.
Where they were a couple of guys in green jackets
live during the tournament, and maybe throughout the year.
We don't know that. They didn't come out of
the cabin. They came out of the tree.
That is true.
We saw no movement in the cap.
And there was some sort of rule dispute on the green where they needed some help.
And these men, I don't even know if you can call them men.
We don't know what type of species they were.
They're just Augusta figures?
They're figures.
That's the word.
Let's call them Augustin national figures.
These two figures just appeared.
And the only way to describe how they appeared is they appeared.
It was like when you're editing a video and you use the dissolve function.
they dissolved onto the screen.
They just showed up.
And then they went back and disappeared.
We watched them disappear.
We watched them walking to the cornfield.
It's like, feel the drink.
Yes.
It honestly, when they left, because they arrived so mysteriously that we kept our eye on.
And we were like, we have to watch these guys.
And they kind of, they just mozied over towards the green.
They didn't interrupt anybody.
But then they just, all of a sudden, they were just in a very natural conversation.
The dispute was settled, like, without problem.
And then we tried to watch them because we were like,
If they just appeared mysteriously, we have to see how they disappear.
And we tried, but like, we failed.
I mean, we watched them.
And then it was Field of Dreams.
Like, no, I see their legs and stuff.
And then I just don't.
Oh, man.
That's amazing.
They're gone.
It's true.
It was there.
It's nuts.
I remember us trying to figure out what happens to people that, like, do the wrong thing in
Augustine we were saying, I think they just fall into the grass and that's it.
They're just gone.
And just like Dr.
Evil's dungeon.
Yeah.
You guys just down there screaming.
So yeah, that's what would happen.
we ever tried to use Augusta Green.
Yeah, or like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars.
When Darth Vader strikes him down on the Death Star,
and then they go to like step on his robe afterwards
and there's nothing in there.
Yep.
He's just gone.
Yeah.
That's what happens at Augusta Green.
It was amazing.
So anyways, Augusta Green, I don't know, what the fuck were we talking about?
Oh, it's all that sawgrass, all that good stuff.
I have to say that I got into it with Hardo Golf Twitter today.
You did.
Tweeted out my video, Riggsverse video, played Spanish Trail, you know,
video I put out every Wednesday.
And you always get replies.
We've talked about it many times.
Most people comment on your swing.
Oh, you need to take it more upright.
You need to take it more.
You're too inside.
Like people, all the people, every time you click on them,
they have like a picture of them at the top of their back swing on some golf course.
And then I had to respond to this guy who said,
Riggs be a man and play the tips dude,
which is maybe the most loser comment in the world.
I hate that guy.
I don't know his name.
I don't know what he looks like.
I don't want to know his name.
I don't want to know.
I'll never know that guy's name, but fuck that guy.
Yeah.
He's the worst.
I'll fucking play the Reds if I have to.
Yeah.
Before I play the tips.
If you're going to try and tell me that I'm not a man for playing the tips when posting a video, me playing a golf course that I want, like I can play wherever the fuck I want.
Yep.
I'll tee off on the fucking green if I want.
I may not even tee up.
I may drop my ball right in the middle of the fairway.
What are you going to do about?
Yeah.
What are you going to do about it?
I pay my fee.
I will do whatever I want.
I can do whatever the fuck I want.
And you're going to watch it, too.
That's the best part.
He's going to watch that video.
Oh, you're watching.
He watched it.
He obviously watched it.
There's a gathering of men outside this studio.
Yeah, so our studio is...
They all sort of look like people I know.
They all look like they...
I don't know.
How many men can fit into this fucking...
That line of men that just walked into this room behind us
had to have been no joke 30 to 35 people.
For anyone who doesn't know, which is going to be all of you,
because you're not sitting in the room of us.
There's a glass door in this studio.
The rest of it is like soundproof, kind of.
I had to comment.
I'm sorry.
to distract the conversation, but the line went on forever.
I'm trying to think of, um, what, what is there, what is, God, what is like a movie
equivalent when they start to show a little bit of a line and you think it's going to end
after 20 people or something?
It's like a train.
When a train comes by.
Yeah.
And you think, like, all right, that was 70 cars.
Like, it has to stop pretty soon.
And it turns out there's 300 cars.
That's what that happened.
What is it?
Horrible bosses, too, when, when they're waiting for the, and, uh, Jamie Fox has them in this
getaway.
car and they're trying to catch
so the police are trying to catch
Jamie Fox and all the guys
and they and Jamie Fox gets in front
of the train and they want to make it
close. Do you not know what I'm talking about? I haven't seen
that moment. Well then why didn't you tell me this
halfway through the conversation? I was doing it for the
listeners. I was doing it for the
little doing your thing there. There are people that
listen to Spockers that have seen horrible buses too
is a part where he jumps in front of the train
and the police, he literally got away
from them but he waits because they need
the police to chase them.
Uh, I see.
Okay.
Country mile train.
That's the scene you're talking about.
The train goes on forever.
I'm not even kidding.
The scene is 10 minutes.
Like everyone's like, we just want the train to go by real quick.
Yeah.
And one of the guys is like, I need to go to the bathroom.
The caboose is coming.
And then he's like, okay.
And then 10 minutes go by.
He's like, I really could have went to the bathroom 10 minutes ago.
And then he keeps going.
And he goes, all right, I'm going to go to the bathroom.
And then he goes, caboose is coming.
It's a funny scene.
So that's what's just happened.
No joke.
That's what just happened.
So anyways, golf Twitter.
I'm getting into it a little bit with golf Twitter.
I decided to respond to this guy.
You know, I said, like, I don't golf to make you think of a man.
I'm just, I mean, I'm trying to have fun.
And if I'm going to have more fun from these days.
I don't care.
That's really a lesson in life.
Just don't.
I'm just trying to have fun on you.
When you were making that video, in no way, shape, or form, did the reason you made that video
come across your mind to make people think that you were a man?
I have to think, like, at Sam B27, never, needs to think I'm a man when this video goes public.
That doesn't cross my mind.
So obviously, I just.
decided to respond. Sometimes you just decided to respond.
Have to give a huge shout out to Supreme
Golf who got in the mud. Oh yeah, real muddy. Because Supreme
Golf, you know, I tweeted this. People love it like, oh,
rigs the dunking on them, whatever. Kind of rallying the troops.
You got a lot of gifts in your mentions.
Tons of gifts. A lot of gift action, which is, that's Twitter.
It's fun.
Oh, yeah. That one came in. Yeah, all those.
Supreme Golf responded and said, he quoted the guy's bio, which says,
club twirls for the girls is an all-time bad bio.
That's amazing.
Which is this guy's fucking bio
Which is his bio
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Golf Twitter is the worst
I think that's the worst
One of the worst places on the internet
You said earlier that we always say
That Blank is the worst Twitter
golf Twitter is the worst.
It's pretty freaking close to hockey
Twitter in Canada.
I've seen some bad depths of it.
I've never been in that.
Well, you're in it deep because you're out of
I've seen the depths of Canadian hockey Twitter
and it's a horrible, horrible place.
Because they think
like golf Twitter is so much more general, right?
You can go across the world.
Like hockey Canada Twitter thinks they invented the sport,
which they did.
But they take that shit.
Well, and they're caught in this weird place.
of why don't you like my sport?
And then once you do, you don't know anything about the sport.
You don't know anything about the sport.
And they're in this place where, like, their team has a won.
A Canadian team has a one since like 1994.
Three.
I think the Canadians are 93.
So they've just about, the whole country has been on close to a 30 year drought in the championships
of their sport that they love so much and they care about so much.
So it drives them fucking nothing.
And the problem with golf Twitter is the people who are on golf Twitter, they play golf.
So it's like they have opinions about it that they think are sacred.
Correct.
You know what I mean?
Correct.
Like, hockey, Twitter, maybe some of them probably play hockey.
You play hockey.
But, like, a lot of people play golf, and they all have their opinion.
They all think they're rigged.
Like this guy who, the harder who tweeted at Riggs, he has, like, a double-strap bag.
He's up there.
He's giving the middle finger.
He, like, looks like, he thinks he's the coolest guy in the world.
Right.
Just because he plays at his local golf course once every two weeks.
And he, like, he hits the ball, like, 180 yards with his, like, horrible driver.
He thinks it's genuinely embarrassing that I didn't, I don't go to every course and walk all the way to the very back and play from me.
also what a crazy way to live I just fact-checked
I mean the staff that I pulled earlier Montreal Canadian is 1993 last 18 to win the
Stanley Cup correct that's that's a good call I mean I said 94
and your favorite sport is hockey it would be crazy if I said that
well second favorite I did play in one college right so where that's fair that's fair
at Harvard okay this is just facts why does it why I said we'll laugh after that does that
drive you nuts yes like you did you did
play at Harvard. It's not a joke. There's not, look, this is going to sound dushy. I'm aware.
There's no way to inform someone that you went to Harvard without coming off like an asshole.
that's crazy to me it's not possible
if you try to do the like
oh yeah in Boston
everybody makes fun of you
if someone just goes oh why'd you go to college
you just go Harvard
they're like
oh
the joke has the joke has like
it's like evolved over the years
like used to say Harvard people
made funny for that so then you said I went to
what at school in Cambridge or whatever
people started making fun of that
and now you tried to revert back to just saying Harvard
and now you're back to them being like
you're an asshole you always have to soften it somehow
I have to be like
Harvard yeah I played like
hockey there or something. I can't just say Harvard.
Right. It's like one word. It's just like,
I don't know. No, I don't fucking way to do it.
There's four of us in the room
and Jake and Trent
like kind of giggled when you said the word Harvard.
And I'm just, it's like that I would too. I kind of
laughed too. It's like you said to where Harvard. It's like
yeah, it's funny. It's still. Harvard to me
is Hogwarts.
It's true.
Like I'm from I, I, I have never
come. I've come so not close to going to
Harvard that that place barely even exists.
me.
Yeah, Trent treats it like I'm a wizard who went to a special fucking school.
Like, I would do some shitty community college at Sea Rapids, Iowa.
And Harvard is like, oh, my God, you got to go to the special train stop and you got to go.
Platform 9 and 3 course.
You deal with those muggles all the time.
It's crazy, time.
I'm proud of you for going to Harvard.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
We've actually got two, I went to a community college on Long Island.
Our two community college.
I even though you did a little community.
I thought you were just at Borrellis.
The community college.
You're just a Borelli's rat.
I basically was a Borelli's rat.
I, like, didn't do anything at the community college.
We are going to, so next thing I want to talk about, the thermos that we have on sale.
We talked about this.
This is like, loud Frankie on Monday's show, Tuesday show, I guess, comes out on Tuesday.
So this thermos is now, I don't know what the hell that sound is.
Oh, that's our GoPro's out of batteries.
We have a GoPro now?
Yeah, I think we're trying to film ourselves making noises.
I don't know if people can hear that.
Anyways, our thermos that we have, that's now for sale?
Bryce and Des Chambot.
he's obviously on our logo.
He responded to my Instagram.
I posted Instagram. Should I put these on sale?
He's like, I'll buy it right now.
These things are hot.
They're so hot that Bryson himself,
when we basically just stole his likeness and made a logo,
the SGA actually helped us with that,
that he wants one of these things.
So go to store.
at barstlesports.com.
Find the thermos.
Go to the foreplay part.
The thermos is in there.
You're going to absolutely love it.
Bryson's becoming way too likable.
I have to say this.
He is,
um,
he is,
unexpectedly and unbelievably likable.
Yeah.
Because like I was ready to,
you like him now?
I was ready to come on the show
and just roast him for this video
that he came out with
of him just like
fucking shaving down his clubs.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
What was the caption?
Like,
experimentation time.
Come on, bro.
You're not shaving down your clubs
with this fucking...
Of course he's shaving down.
No, he's not.
There's sparks going everywhere.
He's wearing goggles.
Come on, dude.
You're Bryson Dishambo.
You got a million people
that doesn't avoid it.
He fucking shaved all his clubs
out of the same length when he was like 11 trying to figure it out he's right the guys won
so many golf tournaments he's not shaving as old clubs he's constantly experimenting as the caption
says he's got scientists that are doing that he is a scientist no he's not that's where we disagree
he thinks he's a scientist he wants to be a scientist he's not he reads they tell him what to say they
give him cute cards and what to say these are the scientific uh buzzwords he's a buzzword scientist
yes that's a great that's the best way i've ever described him buzzword scientist he's a buzzword
scientist instead of saying flag poll he says uh restitution of the flag stick he
i don't disagree he's a buzzword scientist but and to that's such a good term i can't disagree
it's amazing but he's closer to scientists than you know that's true well but i don't want to be a
fucking you know that science you know that real scientists are looking at bryson being like that's a
buzzword scientist it's like when someone works all right here's an example it's like when a male
nurse thinks he's like a doctor right and around doctors are like well dude you're
just a nurse. Like I understand you know all the terms and all the stuff that goes on, but like let
the big boys have their day. Like you can just stay over here and just watch. You know what it is?
That's what we is to science. It's like people in our, uh, office who try to, like,
buzzword business people. Yes. Well, let me get that deck up there for you. Yeah. Well,
we're just talking about Brett now. Yeah, correct. We're talking about office manager Brett.
What is the one that he tried to use on the show that one day on radio? Fuck, I can't remember the term,
but it was incredible. He's a big just like, yeah, he's, uh, he's,
Let's tee up that meeting.
These are big meetings, guys.
A big, let's tee up that meeting.
I'll get that deck work.
Yeah, the decks.
T up the meeting.
Circle back, put a pin on it.
Activate.
Activate.
A lot of activating.
Activating.
There's a lot of activating.
What are you talking about?
Do you mean, we should have to take a picture of this?
They're going to spend money.
We're going to take a picture.
What do we have to do to make sure this is good?
You got to activate that brand.
How do I activate?
Do I turn a button on?
Do I press it?
I feel you switch up a lever.
Yeah.
You say leave?
No, I just said it because we were doing weird terms.
It's 11.
Oh, gotcha.
Okay.
Yeah.
I church stood up a little bit.
I do that sometimes with, you didn't mean, advertiser.
Yeah, I did.
You did?
Yeah, I knew going to do it.
I'm going to say lever instead of leaver.
Oh, you just thought it'd be like a little funnier.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I do that too sometimes.
It's nice.
Didn't land.
I thought it landed.
I thought it was nice.
Any, I mean, lever has no funny.
Yeah, it does.
He said lever.
It's fucking clearly lever.
Leaver.
We weren't in like a joking mood of messing up words.
We're always in a joking mood.
No, like we weren't on the way.
We weren't like messing up work.
We weren't, we weren't messing up word.
We weren't messing up word.
We just joke our own.
I was explaining a dramatized situation about how we switch the lever.
So he dramatized the word, lever.
I didn't like it at all.
Coming to the guy who fucking.
No, I didn't like it at all.
Coming from the guy who dramatizes every word in the Italian language.
What are you not on purpose?
I just say, I say, bake man a gut.
That's like what I say.
He doesn't say it to be an asshole.
No, I don't.
That's just the way comes up.
He said Lever to try and land a joke.
You laughed.
If we go back and look at the tape, he laughed.
If we go back and look at the tape, he laughed.
You loved Lever.
You loved it.
Anyway, the reason I brought up the fucking shaving and the buzzword scientist is because he does all that things.
I want to come on to the podcast.
And then, like, later that night or even today, we got a text from Riggs that, like, this guy's, like, loving everything about our, our amazing thermists.
Let me say this.
He will, he is going to eat dinner when the PJs in town at.
Borrelli's restaurant. And that will be the moment where I go full team Bryson. I mean,
you can't come to my restaurant, break bread with me and I can't. I mean, I'm going to love the
shit out of Bryson if he eats Borreleys. Once you break bread at Borreleys with the Borrellys,
you're family for a lot. That's a lot bond bond. Family. Yeah. I mean, that picture is
going to be all the time. That's as close as you can get with someone at that restaurant.
When you and Bryson are sitting there holding up buttern eyes together, like Borelli's.
Are you fucking kidding me? I mean, it's life changing. He's going to be our guy.
We might have a barcel hat on him for the turn.
100%. All right. We haven't even gone to a fucking topic yet.
Tiger Woods, putting coach, new putting coach.
Matt Killing, also, he's worked a lot with JT.
Tiger and J.T. play a ton of golf together.
JT.
Friend of the show, but I don't know now,
because we kind of took the USGA side last week,
so I really don't know, to be honest with you.
I would say no.
But you never know, right?
J.T.
Where do you stand on JT? I don't really know.
I don't think anything changed, but I could see him being upset
about the way.
we talked about the relationship last week.
Not that we said anything wrong,
but I can see him being upset about it.
I don't know.
I mean, he clearly was triggered by the whole situation,
so he may be.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
I think the whole situation triggered
and made him mad, not necessarily us.
We had to talk about it.
Right.
And if he did, if here's my point,
is if he does,
if his thoughts towards us change after what we said,
then we deserve to not like him
because that would be very soft of it.
I agree with that.
Very much agree with that.
So I don't know.
Maybe he's,
I mean, I do think he's,
He is soft about certain things.
I think I actually called him soft as shit.
Yeah.
Not to his face, but to his voice.
And like we said, many times, we told him that there are going to be things.
Still, he's just that type of person.
There are going to be things in which we find wrong.
We told Bryson the same thing.
If you become friends with us on the show, you come on, that's great.
But that doesn't mean we're going to shower you with love.
No.
You know, unconditional love.
Right.
There's going to be things you do wrong.
I'll say this about JT.
My current stance on J.T. is this.
I think J.T., if you went out, played golf with them, had a beer with them at the bar, got dinner with them.
I think you'd be like, that guy's a cool, normal, great guy.
I like JT.
I just think he comes off in a lot of situations publicly in a very off-putting way.
Yep.
He comes off-putting, like, soft, like, he's kind of bitching about stuff, you know,
and I just think that's very off-putting.
But I think, like, he's actually probably a really good normal dude.
He is a normal, good dude, and we saw that,
that he was able to, like, shoot the shit for an hour with us and be able to talk.
But he also is the type of person where, like, he makes excuses for throwing clubs
and doing us up because he has this fire in him.
And, like, that's the same person that's going to off-pefx.
put like like in that story that he told about how the how the country club member told his dad like you have to you can't take fire out of a guy like you can't put it in you can't put the fire in someone they have to be born with it like that exact moment is like when he's at that country club he's either turning people off or he's turning people on and like that's just the way his personality is if you throw a club one member may say hey man that's actually pretty cool you're not going to be able to teach him that and the other member might be like what a douche throwing clubs you know what I mean and that's how the whole public now that he's a professional golfer per season that's just who he is.
I agree.
50.
It's never going to be 100 with him, ever.
I agree.
And so that's kind of where we stand with JT.
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Pudding coach, this guy, Matt Killing, kind of now working with Tigers.
I guess they keep calling him.
I bet we'd be getting some notifications about this guy on Golf Channel.
They've been doing live from TBC Sawgrass, the players all week.
And, you know, this guy's kind of a, they're calling him like a,
prodigy, a coach prodigy, with JT using him.
Now obviously Tiger's using him.
That's going to elevate his profile.
Tiger said on, you know, kind of using a putting coach.
First coach he's used in this comeback, by the way.
How old is this guy?
I don't know.
Because I feel like the word prodigy.
But in coaching, it's different.
Yeah, but direct, no, no, it doesn't, I don't think.
But the age range, if you're a golf prodigy, you're talking like 17 years old.
If you're a coaching prodigy, I think the word prodigy directly correlates with the
no matter what you're in.
I disagree.
Like, if you're a coaching prodigy, a prodigy?
No.
Like, Sean McVeigh is a coaching prodigy.
Thank you.
He's super young.
I think you guys are,
I actually think you guys are agreeing.
Yeah, no, I think that the age could be different from the player,
but it still has to be young.
You can't be like, if we find out that this guy just became,
like this guy's 57 years old, but he just came on the scene.
No, but I'm saying the first.
I'm saying the age per.
Yeah.
But it still has to be, it has to, here's my point.
When you hear the word prodigy, it has to be.
so much lower than what you're used to, right?
Like his age has so much lower than every other coach.
Look, I agree that.
We're agreeing.
So where is it?
What's his age?
What's his age?
I don't know what his age.
What's his age?
He's, uh, article in 2010 listed in me.
He was 25, so he's 34.
Yeah, that's a prodigy.
Yeah, I think that's a coaching prodig.
He's coaching someone older than me.
Let me ask you this.
What do you think the age is for like a Supreme Court prodigy?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think maybe higher.
What's the average age of a Supreme Court?
They're fucking old.
They're 15.
Right?
RBG is like 87 or something ridiculous.
I think if you're...
What's...
Yeah.
60, 61?
That might be...
I think you gotta be younger than that.
Like, your life's almost older.
Like, prodigy means, like, we're gonna see this guy forever.
What's a...
Imagine this person walks in with a cane.
They're like 68.
Like, that's the prodigy.
Like, what is that fucking Yoda?
What do you mean?
Like, a prodigy means, like, we're gonna see this guy.
We're gonna be, like, a fan of him.
And he's gonna dominate the sport or whatever field he's in for, like, a long
time like fucking Michael Jordan was a prodigy.
I'm going to call Supreme Court prodigy under 55.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
Because then you're going to get, you should get like 30 or so years of the spring
court.
That's pretty good run.
Yeah, it's like this new guy, this new kid in town is going to be coming in ruling all
shit.
Yeah, no, they'll say that.
Right.
Yeah, I think they're going to, uh, I think they're going to nominate and vote in this
new kid in on the block.
You think they'll ever be a Pope prodigy?
Oh, there's Pope prodigies.
Yeah?
Yeah.
They're old as fuck too.
Right.
It's sort of the same deal as the Supreme Court.
Absolutely.
There's some cardinal out there right now that's young as shit, and they're like, yo, you better keep an eye on this guy because he's making some moves and he may be the new Pope.
Dude, the Pope Prodigy might be the highest age range of prodigy there.
Definitely.
There's a show.
There was a show that I think I canceled on HBO.
It was called like cool Pope or like bad Pope.
It was actually a really cool.
I'll say this.
Maybe at like the nursing home, you could be like Tim's a political prodigy of the nursing home.
And like he's like 82.
But everyone else is 90.
I don't like.
Let me ask you this.
He takes over the board.
In terms of prodigies, can you be a prodigy if your line of work is largely inconsequential to the public at large?
Like, Sean McVeigh is a coaching prodigy because the NFL is so popular.
This guy, Killen, he's a prodigy as like a putting coach.
Yeah, you can be a prodigy.
Okay.
I mean, somebody could be like a fucking, like, this guy's a whiffleball prodigy.
Okay.
You know, and he could just be the best fucking whiffleball player in the world.
He's like 11.
I mean, the actual definition of prodigy as a person.
especially a young one, endowed and with exceptional qualities or abilities.
That's an important clause, especially a young one.
I'm surprised I threw that in there as like a sort of this.
Like you have to be a young one.
So Tiger said on his putting, now that he's working with Matt Killen,
may or may not be a putting prodigy, coaching prodigy,
I wanted him to take a look at it and see what he thought of where my setup looked like now
versus all the times I've putted well.
Wood said, I've putted well with different postures throughout my career.
I've done different things,
but I wanted him to take a look at it.
And then he mentioned a few things.
I've started to feel a little bit better this week or this past week.
Then the putting definitely freed up.
I've been feeling that my stroke has been off,
but a lot of it has been physical.
I'm having a hard time getting into the different postures
as my body's felt better.
My stroke has come back a little bit,
but I also wanted to see where I was off and where, what did he see?
He's kind of tying it to his neck,
which he's now officially tied the neck to his lower back as well.
Lower back's completely fine,
but he's saying now his body has to compensate
in other places for him to be as flexible as he wants to be.
That was just, I saw that quote from Tiger.
It was a crazy diagnosis of himself.
It is a crazy diagnosis.
The pain is not allowed in my fuse back anymore.
So it disperses to the rest of my body.
We need a what's up doc on that.
Is that possible?
The pain is no longer allowed in certain parts.
So now it is moving to other parts.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
I love it.
I mean, the fusion is so successful.
Pain isn't even allowed in the area.
Like there's like a roadblock.
That's like when you used to have a headache.
I don't know if they used to say this to you, but when I'd have a headache,
my dad would be like slam your finger in like a door so the pain transfers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or like, um, yeah, like touch your hand on like a hot stove or something.
No, I would never do it, but it's just like it's like a saying or it's like a joke.
Imagine Tred just walks up to a door and you slams his finger in it.
And then now you have a broken finger and a headache.
Right.
And you're like, Trent, what happened?
You're like, well, I had a migraine.
Well, so.
He just slammed your hand over it.
Just even the quarters.
boom boom boom but whereas my dad would say that is a joke tiger woods is saying this
completely serious do we feel better or worse about tiger after this stuff i feel worse after that
quote i don't like hearing him talking about pain regardless of if it's a positive light negative
light don't talk about your lower back don't talk about how this this pain is dispersing throughout
your body i agree with that just don't talk about it uh tiger had an unbelievable quote somebody
asked about analytics say tiger do you look at analytics in your game what analytics do you look at
and care about most.
He said, yeah, wins.
Unbelievable.
That's the Tiger we want to hear.
No pain talk, no bullshit.
Just talk about wins.
Wins, baby.
Wins.
That's it.
Also, a little update.
I bet $100 on Tiger 20 to 1 to win the players championship.
Wow.
Okay.
Who's the favorite?
In my mind, Tiger.
I don't need to hear anything else.
Yeah.
Is anybody else playing?
No.
No.
I want to say DJ maybe.
Might be the actual Vegas betting odds favorite.
I mean, we got to check on maybe for next week's shows
how that guy's doing that better that we talked about.
Oh, a lot of people asking who that was.
If we ever figured out who that was, the model guy.
Yeah.
He has a model out there.
Yeah.
Somebody, actually, I remember that.
Somebody sent me an email that was like, dude,
this guy's actually garbage.
If you dig deeper into it, he picks like 10 people who are likely to have a chance to win.
And then if, like, one of those 10 people wins, he says it's like I picked the winner.
He actually did that in the part that I read on 4Play
where it was like Tiger, he didn't say that Tiger wasn't going to win
but he's more than likely to miss the cut.
But then like if had he not missed the cut,
he'd be like, well, there was still a chance that he didn't.
Correct.
Like he basically does like probabilities instead of winners.
Correct.
And then he uses results not as probabilities as like I picked it.
Correct.
So I'm kind of here.
Because it takes like a model of 50,000 results and then takes a percentage of that.
So whenever you talk about percentage of chance to win,
there's always a percentage chance to lose.
and that's how he probably fucking saves himself.
I'm out on this guy.
Yeah, I'm out.
Whoa, I said there was a 40% chance he could lose.
Jason Day handled.
So Jason Day has been getting Twitter trolled for withdrawing last week at Bay Hill.
He hit, I think he played six or seven holes.
And then withdrew, and then the next day he was spotted at like Disney World walking around.
And a lot of people were like, we're chirping.
I mean, golf Twitter was chirping him.
He had an unbelievable response.
This is about as good, in my opinion, as you can respond to something like this.
He said, I mean, I don't care.
Like, if people make memes about me, I think a lot of them are funny.
It's fine.
It is what it is.
People trying to be funny in that.
I get a good laugh out of most of it.
And I'm okay with that.
You can tell between people that are being funny and people that are actually trying to really hate you.
I think that's about as well as you can handle it.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, actually, I find a lot of it funny.
And I'm totally aware that people on Twitter and online are just trying to be funny most of the time.
Yeah, I think that's a healthy attitude to have in terms of Twitter.
And Jason Day, I feel like he's not a big social media guy.
anyway so I feel like he's not looking at all the time like most people this leads me
to believe that he is a social media guy this is such an understanding of like yeah yeah that he
clearly I mean all these guys not he's not browsing with his actual account I think they have like
burner accounts and they find I think he definitely definitely knows what's going on also a guy like
that so I also wanted to bring up our relationship with jason day which is that he's clearly in our
intro to the podcast yeah he answered a question last year last January or February at
Pebble Beach when they asked him, oh, like, what do you think about the popularity of golf?
And he just started talking for like two minutes straight about Barstlesport, which we've had no
contact with him ever.
We've never talked to Jason Day.
I've tried since then.
We have a lot of connections in golf.
We've made a lot of connections.
We've made, we've networked really well.
We've had a bunch of guys on the show.
And like, obviously those guys from Bubba to JT to Bryson, their caddies.
Like we've had Taylor, who Stewart Sinks caddy on, like all kinds of different people, Kip Henley.
Like we have we know these people well
They all know each other
We've tried to get like contact Jason Day
And have them on and basically for what I've gotten
He's just like all set
I don't know what to make of that
Isn't that amazing?
He answered a question unprompted about Barstool
And then he is just like
But I'm not going to have any connection
With the network whatsoever
It's a wild
Like I can't figure it out
I mean here we have these other guys like Bubba
I would have thought Bob would be like fuck Barstool Spurs
I'm never talking to those guys
Walked us into his fucking house
basically.
I mean, sleep in his bedroom almost.
And now you got
guy like Jason Day
who's on the record
being like,
I love Barzville Sports.
They're absolutely stupid,
but like hilarious.
I think we need more people like them.
And then we're like,
hey,
we'd love to get you on the show.
Just nothing.
I'm pals with Jason Day's wife on Twitter.
She's a big bachelor person.
And we tweet back and forth,
we have to have that.
What does that mean?
We've tweeted back and forth
about the Bachelor.
What do you mean tweeted back and forth?
She's responding and you responded to her?
Yeah.
Because she's a big fan of the Bachelor.
And we've tweeted about
certain things that have happened on that show.
So you'd think maybe she'd be like, hey, you should go on this barstle thing?
Do you follow you?
No, she doesn't.
That's weird.
I know.
How does she find your tweets?
I don't know.
She always responds to yours?
Not always.
Oh, I'm saying whenever the contact is made.
I have tweeted her a couple times and she responds to those.
Okay.
But you think she'd be like, hey, these barstle guys, and he'd be like, oh, yeah, I like those guys, you should go on their podcast.
It just hasn't happened.
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
I mean, he's got some weird qualities about the whole nice thing and shit.
I'm a big Jason Day fan.
Huge.
He had the, what's he got the thing Coles got?
Vertigo.
Vertigo.
Yeah.
He can't like look up.
Anyways,
it's close his eyes.
Is he close his eyes because of the vertigo?
Does he envision the shot?
Like,
he's in the movie the greatest game ever played?
Probably a combo.
Okay.
But a lot of guys close their eyes in the vision shot.
He does it a lot.
But he does it for a long time.
And his eyes are like twitching and shit.
Yeah.
You're right.
It's kind of a weird.
It's a weird look.
But anyways,
Jason Day,
don't know really where we stand with him.
We'd love to have him on the show sometime.
Seems like he's all set.
Yep.
and he just talks about Barclothol nowhere,
so I really don't know how we feel.
Also, actually, I know how we feel.
I don't know where we stand on.
To comment on, like, the guys that are given,
like, their haters that are saying,
you can't go to Disney World after withdrawing from a tournament.
Like, they do that in every sport.
Like, and that's,
I feel like athletes always get so afraid to, like,
like, I had the,
what's it called?
Like, a couple of the guys from the islanders came over for dinner.
And I, like, I personally, like,
wait until they got a win to post up the,
to post the picture after,
because, like, I thought, like,
maybe fans would be like,
these guys are drinking or, like,
having a one,
Peroni, but before or after a loss, like, this team sucks and they don't care.
It's like, I hate that fans have that perception of athletes that they're not allowed to have
lives because clearly they have lives.
I mean, they all go out to dinner and they all, like, do things and they, like, Jason Day is allowed to go to fucking Disney World after he, regardless of what he does in the tournament.
He's allowed to do that.
He has kids.
He has a family.
He can do whatever fuck he wants.
There's also a significant difference between swinging a club like 120 miles an hour and just walking around.
Yeah.
Correct.
And it's not like his men.
Carrying stuffed animals.
And it's not like his mental,
and it's not like,
I guess the only times that it happens is when,
the only times it is a real problem is like when the giants went on that boat.
Yeah.
And they're drinking champagne the night,
the day before they're freaking,
what was it,
like the NFC conference championship.
And they were on this boat in Miami.
Like that's a problem.
What would be like fucking five and 25 cents?
Yeah,
you guys should probably pay attention to your championship game tomorrow
before we figure this out.
Yeah.
I agree.
So anyways,
we're team Jason Day.
It would be cool if you would, you know, communicate with us and come on our show.
It would be awesome.
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Before we get this, how about fucking YP right now?
Saying like, where are you?
You just texted me, where are you?
And for anyone listening, whenever you get you,
Whenever you get something like that from a team Portnoy guy,
it immediately means that Dave Portnoy is lurking around the office.
Because sometimes we have to hide that we do this podcast.
Like,
because me and Dave just like...
A hundred percent.
Frankie has to hide that he's on our show.
We're like the biggest like golf podcast in the world.
Yeah.
And we like do it in times in which like he like doesn't really look.
Like his eyes are closed for a second.
Like let's record a couple words.
You're cheating on Dave with us.
Correct.
And,
and I get a where are you at 308?
It's not 3.30.
He hadn't responded.
I sent him 11 text messages after that saying,
what's going on I'm doing for play what's going on where where are you why you're not
answer me what's going on up there for the 30 minutes you think you think upstairs is burning
to the ground right it's like yeah and you're responsible for it and I'm responsible for it but
then he goes my bad nothing nothing someone else was looking for you like blackman one of the
editors you can't do that unacceptable it's unacceptable my heart is now racing to the point where
there is no return I think I'm having a heart attack also YP is uh like Trent is bad texter
bad texter he could go days without responding to a text yeah like
You can't just say where are you at that moment.
But you've been, the whole time you've been talking,
it's actually been pretty impressive.
You stayed on track.
Yes.
But your head has been turning around.
The only time I, when I first got the text,
is when you guys are talking about originally brought up JT.
and I noticed that you guys had to repeat what you had just said,
because I didn't hear a word either of you said.
I just read, where are you?
And I stared at it for times that.
You should be focused on the show.
That was the only thing.
Like, YP, if you're listening to us,
but I know you're probably not.
Don't ever do that again.
Rick said it best.
Unacceptable.
That's on exactly.
There is right there.
There he is.
Oh, he's giving me the thumbs up.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
He's giving me a thumbs up.
Thanks.
Thanks, bro.
I like you're getting thumbs up in the middle of the podcast.
Okay.
From the gallery, we got a bunch of good ones for play at barstolesolesports.com.
First thing is I just want to announce that we are going to be doing every other week.
We're going to be doing a call-in show.
I love the calling shows.
Oh, my God.
They're really fun.
When we do radio, like talking to the fans and talking to people in their cars or whatever, it's the best source of content because these people have good questions.
They have good stories.
And then, like, we get to comment on.
It's the easiest way to, like, just have natural conversation.
It's awesome.
So we obviously, we clearly invented this brand new way to do podcasts, which is the coolest thing in the world.
It's a win, win, win, win, win for everybody.
The numbers on these podcasts, I got to say, the call-on shows are off the charts.
Staggering.
People are obsessed with the calling shows.
So we're going to start making it a very routine thing next Thursday and then every two weeks,
the second show of the week.
It might be sometimes we switch it up, but for the most part, every other week.
every other week, the second show of the week,
will be a call-in show.
So if you're a caddy,
if you're a superintendent,
if you're a course pro,
a club pro,
whatever you are,
if you like work in the world of golf,
put your thinking cap on,
come up with some stories,
come up with some comments,
come up with some questions,
get in the email box
for play at barstolesolesports.com,
and we're going to start doing these shows.
Like I said,
every couple weeks,
we want the best content we can possibly get
and some of the best stuff we've had ever
comes from you guys.
guys. Did you see yesterday that a rival company is now doing caddy stories?
Oh, yeah. We got copied by multiple outlets. Yeah. Really? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we got a couple of tweets yesterday about it. I got a bunch. People were tweeting up a certain, yeah, a certain they used to call themselves the worldwide leader. They now do caddy stories.
Oh. Just wanted to put that out there. I noticed a few people copied us. You know, what? When you're when you're leaving the judge and copyright, because these places, I mean, we've been a podcast. You guys have been doing it.
For long before I...
Over two years.
Over two years, right?
And that had never come up.
And then, like, they probably have had a podcast for however long.
That never came up.
And then the one time we decided to do it, they just, like, invent it the next week.
I'm talking, correct.
For two plus years that we've been doing podcasts, you never heard of anybody else doing the...
Let's hear from all local caddies.
Let's hear this.
And then the minute that we start doing it, other outlets start doing it.
It's crazy.
They call it caddy stories.
Fuck them.
That's crazy.
What do we call ours?
I don't know yet.
We actually need suggestions.
Okay.
I actually like that they call theirs catty stories because now we could make ours better.
Yeah, true.
Also, ours is more than just caddy.
Somebody was like, let's do the caddy corner, but it's like we get superintendents.
We get maintenance guys.
That story about the maintenance guy driving into like the bunker and then driving all around, like, we get a little bit of everything.
So we got to come up with the name for it.
That's another thing.
Email us, tweet out of your suggestions for what we should call the call-in show.
You know such a good name is from the gallery, but we already have that with we're about to get into it.
Such a good name.
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Steve wants to talk about the new players championship trophy and the new theme music.
We're going to play the theme music just so that people can hear it at some point.
But Steve, actually, I just wanted to talk about this.
I don't know if you would even call this from the gallery, but I do, I know people like when we call out their names.
So I just put it under Steve because he made a comment about it.
Did you guys see the new trophy?
It stinks.
I haven't seen any yet.
Stinks out like it.
much worse than the old one.
The reason it stinks is because the old one was
fucking awesome. That's why I don't like it.
The old one, this like huge crystal thing
that just, it's like massive and thick
and just looked like a fucking prize.
Like that looked like,
that looked like in like Lord of the Rings.
That could be when you get through like Mordor
or when you win, that that could be something
that the whole world of Middle Earth like fought over.
Look at that thing.
It just looks like a chunk of,
it's just a chunk of diamond that could be like the most expensive diamond in the world
and now we got is that trophy and now the current one no joke it looks like you finish 10th place
in your local men's league Thursday league with your buddies and they were like oh yeah here's this
dog shit little golf guy trophy like i've got i probably got 20 of those with just a hockey guy
on top from like playing youth league hockey growing up yeah i think we have one of those in the office
you i see it every day yeah and now the player's championship is like
like we're going to do that it's really not great yeah i'm looking at these for the not the old one but
i'm looking at for the first time it does give you the sense that it's like it looks like a like an emmy
or like an oscar it doesn't look like you won a players championship it looks like uh yeah like you
won like your local golf tournament and they just give it out to like you know it's just not great
i don't love it i'm not obsessed with it now the theme music you guys heard the theme music but the old
players one the way you described it is like that's like what you get after walking through
what more
Wardor.
Holy shit is that on point.
Look at that thing.
That fucking thing was unreal.
And how, like, you don't see anything that's that, like, thick in, like, that shape.
It's such a unique shape.
It's like that.
It looks like there's a place in the world where that gets inserted.
That's what I was trying to get out.
It looks like there's a place in the world.
We don't know where it is.
They only know because they won.
And you insert this crystal into it, and then it unlocks, like, something.
Some Indiana Jones shit.
Some fucking, like, all this, like, river just starts to flow around it.
And like, holy fuck.
You're absolutely.
Probably in Tiger's house, honestly, is where you insert it.
Somewhere on Tiger's property.
You're right.
You walk into Tiger's house.
It looks like a normal house.
You insert this old, the old player's championship crystal into this perfect slot built where like only this thing can unlock it.
And then all of a sudden, Tiger's like backyard opens up into this majestical like a gu.
It might be a wormhole to Augusta.
Yeah.
And that could be what it is.
And then you just, you're just in a men corner.
You went from like tigers like average kitchen.
Maybe that for the guys who are.
in the green jackets are going in and out of them when they're dissolving onto the scene.
They're going in and out of this like virtual world in which the only way to get in and out
is by replacing the old player's trophy into its sloth.
Yeah.
You know what doesn't do that?
The fucking new one.
No, the new one sucks.
That thing doesn't get you anything.
Anything.
I like the player's logo.
I like incorporating it in some, like I think the players logo is clean.
Like the actual wording.
Oh, I love it.
I completely agree.
But you don't need a.
make the guy into the trophy.
I'm going to read an article on it.
Does it change your mind that the trophies made of sterling silver and gold?
Nope.
Okay.
That was the only thing that it had going for is designed by the Tiffany and company.
Cool.
Yeah.
Don't care.
Yeah.
It's a garbage.
I do want to say, you're right.
The players, so I was watching, shout out to B-slings.
I was watching Tiger's final round from the players championship last year, which is
obviously on YouTube, if you don't know, B-slings with I think two Zs or three Zs
at the end.
Best account must subscribe on YouTube.
He just takes every Tiger round, and he takes all of Tiger's shots, puts it into like a 20 to 30 minute clip.
And all of them are on YouTube.
So I was watching Tiger's final round for the players last year.
And every time they cut in and out, like, of each shot, they do do the players logo that like flashes on the screen and then kind of like disappears.
Yeah.
It is clean, I have to say.
Players championship logo is very clean.
So I'm into that.
Another music, the new music.
I haven't heard this either.
The new music is, it got me going.
I heard people on Twitter and online were shitting on it saying they didn't like it.
I had chills down my spine.
I wish I could listen to it right now.
You should listen to it.
I mean, we're going to play it.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Oh.
Oh.
Are you kidding me?
Thank you.
I mean, I'm not going to start tearing up.
Dude, it's a mix between like Jurassic Park and like the Masters.
Masters, Jurassic Park, and maybe the Oscars.
Holy shit.
It's fucking...
That little stop, and then it nails you.
It's like it lifts you up off the ground.
You know what I picture?
I pictured I was getting lifted off the ground into the sky.
And I didn't know what was happening.
I'm looking around.
And all of a sudden, it dropped me for a second.
And I'm like, oh, no.
And then boom, I, like, gained wings.
And I'm, like, flying over a majestic world.
Could you imagine Tiger Woods rips a T-shot on the 72nd hole right down central?
And then they, like, show the replay of slow motion of that perfect swing.
and then cut to him walking down the fairway on 18 with that music playing in the background.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Wow.
I'm all in on the new players music.
Oh my God.
Trophy? Terrible.
New music off the charts.
New music, as best as it can be.
I agree.
I mean, it was, it's stunned.
They absolutely nailed it.
I listened to it right before the show.
I had seen on Twitter.
People were shitting on it on Twitter.
How could you shit on that?
Like, I can't get used to a new theme.
The old theme I loved all this, that.
I mean, I legitimately, I thought I was flying into Jurassic Park after
At first time when the choppers are going through the mountains.
Yep.
Yeah.
You know, and then they do that pan, like, way back view.
Yeah.
And you see how small the helicopters are compared to the mountain.
Yes.
And it just seems majestic.
Yeah.
And bigger than, like, you nailed that.
Yeah.
It's bigger than sports.
Ooh, some things are.
Some things are bigger than sports.
That's how I felt when I first listened to it.
Rico Bosco.
Okay.
We got a hypothetical from Stephen.
Quick hypothetical for you.
Bro, he did say a huge man of the show.
Thank you.
Quick hypothetical for you.
Would you rather?
Would you rather?
Would you rather have...
Don't make fun of me.
Go on.
We're a huge fan of the show, Rigsie Shows.
We're about to do Rigsie Hypothetical.
Rigsty hypothetical.
Rigsy hypothetical.
I got one for the Rigsy Shows right here.
I know you guys think you're being funny.
Many people wrote in,
Hey, Rigsy Hypothetical.
You guys think I'm making this up.
And I don't even...
A Riggs E Hypothetically.
Hypotheticals people write that Jake was not kidding you should see what people write the amount of people who wrote in also
Hey, Rigsie jams wins the playlists coming out well we're now to the point where people are in on the joke with me and Frankie yes and you don't realize it
Yeah, and you're like fucking Rigsie jams. I'm showing it right now look Rigsie jams with a Z a lot of people put the Z what's the sending address riggs barstool? What is it?
Unbelievable. So what's this hypothetical from Stephen? Hey guys slash Rigsie shows
Big fan
Would you rather have 19 majors
And no other PGA Tour wins
Or 83 PGA Tour wins
Never break through and win a major
Holy smokes
I think it's very easy
I say 19 majors
If you have 83 PGA Tour wins
And no major
You're a freak show
Yep
You are a media freak show
People are like what is going on?
Yeah what's going on
How many Honda classics
Can this guy fucking win
Like how many Zurich
How many Zurich fucking championships
Can this guy win
Before he wins
one goddamn major.
On the flip side, if you have 19 majors and
no other wins, they're like, this dude comes to
play for the big game. He is
a big game player. He spits
on the Zurich. He spits
on the Zurich. Like, every time
he shows up to the Zurich, he's fucking shit-faced
and hung over. And just doesn't get it.
Then he shows to Augustine, and he absolutely pipes
it and just dominates.
19 times.
Like, oh, fuck, what week is it? It's like, actually,
it's the open. It's like, we're going to win this week.
It's like, shit, here comes Rigsie majors.
And he's just going to win.
That's a really easy question.
Although, like, there is a side to it where it's like you're fucking the most winningest golfer of all time.
I think if you want to make this interesting, you've got to put the major number lower.
I think so, like 10 majors or something or five.
Certainly not the most.
Right.
If you're going to be the most in either category, you have to be the most in majors because that's the only thing that that computes greatness.
Like, your earning power and your marketability, I mean, you're the most winningest, you're the winningest major champion of all time.
Right.
Think about how much Tiger won and how.
how many majors he won and how it felt like it was coming at such a clip like so fast and for him
and he still has five more to get there yeah you're winning for just 20 straight years nonstop
yeah non majors all the time every year yeah for like for probably 12 years you're winning like
a major or two every year you're crazy if you have that you're considered maybe the greatest
athlete of all time athlete yes yeah yeah yeah now i was i thought he's going to say golf no you're
obviously considered the best golf right right right 19 majors but no tour width man people will be
confused. Dude, it would be incredible
if you had 83 PGA
Tor wins, okay? You have three more than Tiger
has right now, and you have
zero majors. Every press conference
you showed up to, they'd be like,
what is going on? Like, why can't you win the majors?
You will have won, though, at that point.
You would have won, like, hundreds of
millions of dollars. You would be...
And you would, yeah. But what would
your marketing be like? I win the ones
that don't really totally matter.
I mean, he doesn't give a shit. Yeah, fair.
Clearly at this point. That would
be something. I mean, you would be every, you're right, every major championship presser, like, you
would sit down and everybody would start laughing. At that point, you just don't show up to majors.
I think that's what I was, I was thinking that too. Like, I only win those things I show up to and I win
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my buddy that i absolutely that my buddy i golf with absolutely refuses to play the back nine of our
home course he always shoots pretty well on the front the back is a complete nightmare every round
so now after finishing up on the ninth hole we always go to make the turn he stops in his cart
turns straight towards the first tee to play the front nine again it's like you
sees a black cloud going up on the 10th
and he is deathly afraid of it refuses to play
the back 9. Any pointers on how
I could get him to get over this fear so we can play
the back 9. How is this possible? I've never
heard of this in my life. This guy's got the yips
for the back 9. He's got the back 9th
yips. I love the visual of him
putting out on the 9th old and just being like,
all right, I'm going back to the first. See you guys.
Or when he's playing with someone that he may not be as
comfortable with and he knows he's about to do this and they're just
going on to the 10th and he slowly just turns
and just goes back to the first and they turn around. They're like, where is this
just breaks out of the back? And now he's going back to the first.
Yeah, and imagine what you have to say.
He doesn't play the back.
He doesn't play, what are you talking about?
That's not a thing.
Doesn't he miss the back?
Like, he's playing the same holes all the time.
Doesn't he miss the back?
Like, playing new holes?
Or just join a nine hole course.
Yeah.
Go to a different course.
Yeah.
Stop going to this one.
You know what I think his problem is he should start on the back.
Ooh.
How's that for the solution?
Start on the back.
Hey, Jake.
Have something to look forward to you?
Like, I know I'm going to go to the ones.
Yeah, no, it's a disaster usually, but you usually don't play it anyway.
So, start on the back.
see if you can get your game going,
and then you have a nice comforting front nine
that you always play every single day
instead of the back coming back.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Start on 10.
I think you nailed that.
I think that's a great idea.
Enrico asks,
would you rather play a beat up ProV1
or a brand new Nitro?
Enrico, shout out to Enrico.
Yeah.
Enrico's nice name.
I'd love to know where Enrico's from.
Other than that, we got Steve, Cody, and Jake.
I mean, but Enrico.
Remember that one shot we did where it was all Frankie's buddies,
same names?
That was crazy.
I mean, that was crazy.
That was some superficial shit.
That also made it been a bit of Riggs planting the seed on what Riggs.
It couldn't have been because it was, and he didn't, that was the one.
Usually, Riggs E schemes.
Usually Riggs E outlines sends us an outline.
And he hadn't sent us an outline that day.
And I was like, the first one was Rob or Jeff or whatever.
The next one was Rob.
I'm like, if this next guy's Kyle, I'm going to fucking have a heart attack and you're like the next guy's Kyle.
I feel like I'm just sitting here.
And the only thing you guys see is that Bill Belichick picture of him with the orange juice.
Oh, yeah.
just like scheming up.
Yeah.
Okay.
Enrico,
would you rather play
with a beat up ProV1
or a brand new Nitro?
This is actually a good question
because
how beat up is the ProV1?
That's a good point.
A couple of cart path marks on it.
You can see some brown.
So I also added from Kyle
a kind of a follow-up related question
where he says at what point
does a ProVee becomes too scratch to use
if you find one of the woods and don't keep it
or if you like four hop one in the cart,
next hole demon unplayable like what point do you reach that ball i would say it always depends on how i'm playing
like if i'm playing lights out and i scratch a ball like hit it off a cart part cart path but i still
like par of the hole or whatever and keep my streak on i'm not changing fucking golf ball i'll be honest
with you there's and it's probably because i'm not to the top tier or seriousness when i'm actually
playing like i'm just i'm more about just keeping my balls and not wanting to spend so much
money on it but i rarely will ever not use a ball because of his condition
Yeah, I agree with that.
Like, I play it to its fucking core.
Yeah.
Especially at ProVee.
Yeah, you're not going to just going to chuck that.
So to this question, I use the ProVy instead of the Nitro.
I don't know why.
That's just how I am.
Like, I just use those balls.
I think most people would agree with that.
Yeah.
Right?
I think that's right.
Unless it's fucking, there's like,
well, it's like one of those, like chewed up baseballs.
Yeah, like shit's coming out of it and stuff.
It's like, come up.
Yeah, if I, if I, if I, you know, I hit a T shot, it looks like I went near the carp bath.
I get over there, I finish out the hole.
my ball nice like decent shape pro v but it's just got a huge cart path mark on it couldn't care less
couldn't care less in fact you know what I do is when I tee it up I tee it up so that that
mark is on the side so A I obviously won't hit it with the club and B I always think that if it's on the
top or part of the rotational it'll affect the rotation but if it's on the side it won't even
affect it and you know do you point away from me so you know I don't want to see any of it I don't see
that bruise no out of sight out of mine keep that bruise away from me yeah yeah
Paul's can get bruised.
You get to play Augusta, but you have to hit every single shot with the square strike.
Do you do it?
How infuriating would that be, though?
This is from Ty, by the tie.
Not to be able to hit a nice, flush drive down, like, one, like start off the T.
But, like, first T at Augusta, you can't just fucking rip a driver.
You got to hit the square strike, but you're playing Augusta, so you always say yes.
Any option to play a Gus you say yes.
The only thing is, like, do you save it?
Like, do you hope that you'll get to play another time?
No, but because he's not saying, he's not adding a stipulation at the end saying it's the only chance you ever get.
If you have the chance to play Augusta with the Square Strike, you would assume that there is an option to play again.
Right?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah, just being able to walk the course is almost worth it.
Yeah, I know.
You know, I think that too.
Yeah.
Plus, you'd be fucking bumping and running the shit out of that ball.
Square strikes legit, man.
They'd be like, this guy is a Euro player.
You're a hundred yards in.
You're money.
You're money.
They'd be like this guy around the greens is just how.
Bobby Jones meant this course to play.
This guy's bump and running it fucking everywhere.
Let's say you can hit the square strike 145 yards.
Like you can actually play okay there.
Let me think.
Like, it's to say the first hole is like 440 or something.
Yeah, you could, you could like, you could rip like three shots.
You could rip three shots and then like you have a chance to maybe hole out from like the side of the green.
You definitely do it.
Yeah.
What do you make a bogey on the first hole with the square strike?
Great.
Are you kidding that?
That's great.
You're never going to hit it left or right.
You really can't.
It's just, it's a.
square stretch.
This might be the best way to play Augusta.
Imagine though, like you fucking tee off on 13, that sick par five that like dog legs
left around the water, like at the creek, you fucking rip a drive with the square
strike and you're just not even close to even like the dog leg on the tree.
You got to like hit another one.
Yeah.
Hit another one.
Par three's would be a disaster.
Oh.
The fourth hole you couldn't even play the fourth hole.
That holds like 250.
Absolute disaster.
16.
You might not be able to get to the green on 16.
You all you want to do, right?
They got that Sunday pin.
You just want to try to hit like that Matt Coacher shot that comes off the hill
Hold on one opportunity.
You fucking came and get to the green.
You can't.
You got the Square Strike.
Hopefully the Stanchins are up.
You just knock it off that and hopefully maybe it like it bounces on its way.
Or yeah, you do the skip.
The skip move.
Oh, that's what you do.
Oh, Square Strike.
You can skip.
Oh, that Square Strait.
I bet that motherfucker skips.
I've been getting a lot of tweets about how good their marketing is.
Square strike's been killing it recently.
They're everywhere.
They're everywhere.
Brad says what's going on with Jordan Spiff?
Spath.
He did in
Is that the whole question?
I have to
Oh man
You know he's actually
He's actually on a bacon egg and cheesecake
Recently he's been getting it from his local deli
I gotta give it to Brad
He wrote Jordan Speet
And then in parentheses Spath
Spath
Spah
He said he went from Golden Child
I feel like he's stepping on a dog toy
I'm
Spah
Jordan Spare
Or maybe it's when you step off of the dog toy
Yeah Jordan Whits
And
Jordan Speeat
Pee?
Bad.
Yeah, it is the release.
It's the release.
The release.
Fucking right, Trent.
It's the release, man.
It's a great call.
Jordan.
It's bad.
It's bad.
Your mouth,
it's almost like you have to let go water in your mouth.
It's bad.
Get water in your mouth and then just let it go.
Spare.
Just let it just come out of your tongue.
Yeah, you're not allowed to try to keep the water in the way when you say his last name.
Yeah.
If you're at home and you're,
In front of a sink listening, if you're in front of a sink listening to this
Forwardplay podcast, go down to the faucet, get some water in your mouth and just go,
Spah, and just let it go, and that's how you're supposed to say the name.
Feel free to send us a video that.
Yeah, Sperh.
He went from the Golden Child that was going to break Jack's record to not be able to consistently
make three footers, make cuts.
I think maybe a trip to Palm Beach to loosen him up and may help the game, but what's
going on with Jordan Speth?
Anybody's panicking about Jordan Spath?
No, relax.
he's a generational talent
and you can't take that away from someone
like he will figure it out
I mean we have now
does Rory McElroy's struggles
when's the last time Rory won 2012
2014
that's everyone
Well that's what I'm a major
Yeah so I'm saying like
So is Jordan Spath
Like are we able to say that
Like he like is Jordan about to go on like a
Like a run just like a bad run
Just like I betcha I couldn't like Jordan Spath
Also people have to realize like when he won
In 2015 when he had that
I could have won all four majors
but won two of them.
He was like fucking 21 years old.
I know.
Like, you're kidding me?
And then the next year,
he should have won the Masters.
He collapsed on 12 when he made a 7.
And then he's won a British Open since then.
How many does he have total?
He's got three majors.
I just remember.
I remember he went on that run and he was so young
and everyone being like,
we're experiencing the next guy.
He's going to be like the greatest golfer of all time.
And everyone,
I guess my age too,
maybe older people wouldn't think that.
But like we always cling to these good athletes.
It's my generation, especially me and my friends.
Like, we're, like, we want to experience.
I think we were a little too young for Michael Jordan.
Just a little too young for, like, the really crazy Tiger Woods.
Because, like, I was, like, fucking 10 years old when he was really, like, going crazy.
Or we weren't even that, like, we weren't as into golf things as we are now.
So it's like, every time someone's even close to showing that type of skill, we're like, fucking do it.
Like, I want to witness it.
Like, right now we're witnessing Tom Brady, and I'm like, I'm a jet fan.
I kind of love it.
Like, I'm like, I'm noticing a dude that's, like, in 70 years, I'm going to talk about Tom Brady being the best.
And we're going to be able to talk about it.
All the games, all the amazing throws.
I went to two of his fucking Super Bowl's.
Like, that shit like that's, like, cool.
Greatness is fun to watch.
Greatness is fun to watch.
But, like, and I remember feeling this way about Jordan, like, oh, my God, this kid is nails.
He's just got to fix his hair, and he's going to be, like, the most unbelievable.
He did kind of fix his hair.
It's kind of fixed his hair.
It's getting, it's okay.
It's getting there.
It's better.
But I just remember him being like, come on, man.
I want him to have, like, eight majors by time.
He's, like, 24, 25.
Yeah, but doesn't party root against anybody in this generation to do it because of Tiger?
You want to protect Tiger?
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
I agree with that because we love Tiger that much and we're still experiencing Tiger.
But there is going to be a point where Tiger's done.
I don't want to talk about that, right?
We don't have to get to that point.
There's going to be a point where Tiger's done in Jordan Spath is going to be like still playing.
Sure.
We could have been rooting him on to maybe catch or be close to Tiger.
Dude, thinking like seven or eight years, Spath is going to be like 32, 33 and his prime and Tiger is going to be like retired.
I do think that.
That's crazy.
It is crazy.
And like we, I want to be like a Spath fan.
I'm a Spath fan.
Yeah, I think we're Spath fans.
Yeah.
All right.
Look, bottom line, don't panic about Jordan Spath.
He's fine.
He's still young as hell.
He's going through a little bit of a thing right now.
Heard, uh, uh, I think it was Aesiger who was saying, was it Aesiger who was saying that he
couldn't get the ball off the, like off the ground in a practice round.
Like, maybe it was somebody else that was mad.
Somebody was saying like, it's also wildly dramatic.
Well, he's going through all these swing changes.
He's working on stuff and what he's working stuff on the range.
He like barely could get the ball.
in the air because he's like trying to get you know trying to improve this that whatever um jordan spath he'll
be fine he knows how to win golf thermics he's got unbelievable generational talent he's going through
a little thing right now wouldn't be surprised if he wins the fucking masters in a month so
don't panic about jordan spath everybody that's it for us enjoy the players championship
the new theme music is off the charts good off the show it's just talking about it right now who's the
composer of all is it uh mozart of no of like star war hans zimmer no john williams
I think it's Hans Zimmer
It's not Hans Zimmer
I thought it was
John Williams sounds familiar
John Williams dude
Maybe it's not at Star Wars
But he's like the guy
Like the composer
All those fucking amazing songs
I didn't know that
I said Moinser
American composer
That was like the only composer
I knew was Mozart
John Williams
I fucking nailed that
That's how you end the show
I fucking nailed that
I had
It's like John Williams
created that players championship song
Fuck you Trent
Let's go
Hans Zimmer was that the guy
from D3 Mighty
Ducks?
Lion King.
Love Lion King.
Circle a life.
That's not about the composing.
It's about the singing.
I just dominate you.
Acuna of a Tata.
That's more like,
mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Fuck you, Frankie.
I mean, I just,
composing is Star Wars.
There's no singing in Star Wars.
Singing is Lion King.
Here's a good way to end on a hot note.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
This is awkward.
You wish I would say hit it hard.
You want me to say it.
He did Pirates of the Caribbean
Interstellar Gladiator Inception.
I kind of just,
the dark night.
I kind of said you wish I'd say hit it hard.
I kind of said that.
We'll just cut it.
We'll edit it where he says it.
No, you won't.
Boom.
That would be such fake news.
You can't do that.
We're out of here.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
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