Fore Play - The F-Bomb Heard Round The Golf World

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

Shame on Justin Thomas for not thinking about the kids when a hot mic picked up him using the F word! Think about the kids! We dive into one of the hottest topics in the golf world this week, talk about the U.S. Amateur, and try to figure out which of us will get to play Winged Foot. Then we answer a ton of From The Gallery questions such as should the Open Championship always be played at St Andrews, what defines a long par 3, Is there any period in the future when you will be able to beat Tiger in a match, and more!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We're still riding high. It's early in the morning, which we're going to get to, I'm sure. It's inevitable that we're going to have to get to that. I'm looking at Frankie's fucking smirk right now. It's just, it's so early. I guess for the rest of the world, it's not so early.

It's 8 o'clock in the morning. But I guess in Barstool World, that feels like it's the beginning of the world. Like it feels like it's BC, like 700 BC and like the fucking sun isn't coming up for another six hours. Yeah, it feels too early to be talking golf. That's pretty much. That's what I, in our group text, I said, we're going to talk golf at 8 a.m. tomorrow. Like, you know, when you get to the golf course and sometimes you have an early tea time, like that first like hour, you're just not really talking to the guy you're driving with. It's like very silent car ride, maybe like a coffee and.

hand you get out of the car and then you can do like a little stretch that you can fucking hear like the birds chirping 10 miles away you're like what are we doing out here right now it's funny it's like what's that point that makes the conversation start because you're both not miserable but not like there's no energy in the cart so like what is that point because yeah you just have that coffee you're just kind of like looking ahead you grab that like side rail and you're just going and you're just waiting for it to change it's probably the guys in the pro shop that break the ice. Like you walk in and like like the first thing they say to you is the first words you and your partner who drove to the golf course hurt all morning. It's true. You also,

you've also, you're always like, ah, morning. You can get four or five holes in easily and still be in that same funk until somebody makes a putt, makes a birdie, somebody decides to crack open a drink. I don't know what it is that there's times where you could get stuck in that funk and you're like, are we going to have fun today? Or what are we? what exactly is happening so the point is that we're recording early as you've heard we have the whole crew we got trent we got frankie we got lurch myself jake and ebug are back there they're uh they go silent they disappear jake has a horrific morning voice by the way one of the worst i've ever heard and and i kept talking him about how bad it was and he kept explaining why it was bad in that

morning voice so that was a real real tough couple moments there what'd you want him to do you're asking him a question just go silent so when you ask you Asked a question. Just not answer or respond to the group text. I said, Jake, you got a horrible morning voice. I said, I can't take that thing. And he's like, well, yeah, this is why I have a bad morning voice. And as he kept going, the morning voice works.

All right, fair. So you just want him to not say anything there. Do you have live animals on the walls behind you? Yeah, I can't really get into all that. But anyways, yeah, I missed Monday's show, Tuesday show, because of some unforeseen things on my girlfriend's side. So I'm down at her family's place. And her stepdad kind of like is a master hunter of the 10th degree.

And literally goes to like, he goes to, he's hunted on every continent. And he's hunted, I don't know how much I can. About Antarctica. What about Antarctica? That's the only one. So we clarified that last night. You can't say every continent because everyone thinks Antarctica first. So that's what he said.

because he's got that question a ton clearly. You can't say I've hunted on every fucking continent because once you say that, like all the other continents are like, yeah, okay. I don't know if like look at that. For the people at home, he's got the type of animals on the wall

where you think he's going to move to humans next. Like he's about, he's about done with animals. Like I need something else. Jake, I don't know if you have to cut this or not. I mean, it's all illegal or one night. But he, I mean, there's one spot left in the whole house where he could put another, like, head. What's he waiting for years?

So that's, like, kind of the running joke. Like, somebody's boyfriend comes over. It's like, well, if you screw up, like, you know, it's like, well, you don't want my face there for him in the rest of your days. So my head's never going there. Oh, man. Okay. We're loopy. It's a weird morning.

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throats playing TPC Harding Park. How's Knives Creek coming there, Frank? Nottes Creek is an oasis. I told Trent last night on the stream that I've added a lake, very Harding Park-esque. The lake doesn't come into effect very much. I think you'd have to really skull-fucking over the 11th or 12th green to have that come into effect. But I think it adds that nice- Like Palmetto-1? Yeah, it just adds that nice visual of like walking on the back nine. You know you're in a special place because you see the water behind the pine trees.

And it kind of comes and moves, maneuvers its way around the outskirts. Because I tried to figure out what's behind Knives Creek. Is it a community? And then I was thinking, do I have to put houses there and backyards and pools and tennis courts? And that was going to take me another two months? So I put a fucking huge lake there because it's saved time and it looks better. It's almost ready. So all the creeks run into the pond or lake?

No. So what I figured out was like I don't know how water on golf courses work. And I don't know how they get them on each hole, right? Like I assume some of the places it's just naturally there, other places it's manmade with fucking tarp underneath the water and they just put it there. My understanding is that Nice Creek is a water level golf course. And there are certain spots in which the water. is present and grass is present, right? So it like it pops in and out.

But you can kind of tell like it's all one big water, like body of water. And then there's grass in between, almost like a Florida course. You know what I mean? I've added water on almost every single hole. Did you pick a location for Knives Creek? Like is there like a fake location where you're like, Knives Creek is in. Yeah, I think it's like, um, it's got like an upstate New York.

Yeah, that's kind of the way I would picture. Like Rochester. Yeah. Because it's got foliage and things. Like, so it has to be kind of doing there. Rochester. Rochester seems like the right answer. Maybe Auburn, New York, somewhere.

I'm surprised you didn't add, if you went with the lake from Harding Park, that you didn't get enticed to add cypress trees because those puppies were popping all week. Well, here's the thing. You can't, you can't. So they have layouts and themes. I went with like an autumn theme. You can't get cypress trees because that's a New York, Eastern Coast style, like, New York style golf course and they don't allow you to put Cypress

trees. They only let you to put like pine trees and all that stuff. You can make the trees though as big as you want. Like you can make trees as you just massive. GGA Tour 19 didn't have the golf club 2019 didn't have Cypress trees. I heard from a little birdie, aka we got the game early even though we weren't able to stream it last night that Cypress trees have been added to the next to the 2K21 for the building. So I I will on Butter's Bay be making a California, Monterey Peninsula-type golf course with Cypress trees all,

I'm talking, the most Cypress trees you've ever seen. Wow. Those things, they just changed for me. They changed everything I thought about trees, and especially those ones that were at Harding Park. I mean, we've played California Golf before, but those cypress trees at Harding Park with the fog and with the lake and the drone footage and all of that coming together.

together was majestic. I think Game of Thrones was thrown out a lot. Game of Thrones set people were talking about. But that was like such a mythical feel to the golf course without the water even being in play. Like you're saying, frankly, like you're a little pond, which, by the way, the only reason you're doing that is because

it's, you don't have to then design anything. It's just water. Right, just spurred by laziness. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah. So I like the look. I think it's a good look.

I think that, that course that we played TBC Colorado had like a lake like reservoirs with like mountains way in the background so like mountains lake aren't even in play the whole time yet it kind of sets the entire scene for the entire golf course so you can get away with that without it even being in play which it sounds like you're doing with Knife Creek

correct and for my next golf course I've already decided that I'm going to introduce to the world which I'm sure it's already there island T-boxes as opposed to island greens so like I think the walkout to a a T-box in the middle of the ocean would be sick because you're you're not mentally destroyed yet. You haven't hit the shot yet. So like you still get that same feeling of like walking into the ocean on a bridge, but you're going on to the T-box.

I feel like anticipation of the shot is high, morale is up, as opposed to like you get up there. You just walked off a green. You're like on a regular tea and you're looking at this beautiful hole into the ocean like or like seven at Pebble Beach or something like that. And then you can skull one into the water. But like I feel like that whole moment of like, walking into the ocean or like a really cool T-box should be prior to the shot. We're trying to keep morale up.

You're wasting the view, though. Like you're wasting. Oh, I think the view is right around you, man. Well, like, do the green on that same island, just have the T-box kind of like a small section off to the side. A lot of courses do that. Even Poppy's Island. It's my golf store.

Oh, we change it to Poppy's Island. That's the new one. Okay. I love the golf course architect beef that just similar. just below the surface in this podcast, whenever golf courses get brought up. The Pobby's Irons is going to have a way better course rating than Butter's Bay or whatever you got.

Oh, boy. Well, that's just, that's tough to hear. And I hope 2K's not listening because that's, we need, we need, we need, we need, Ninesh Creek to be a really good golf course. It is a good golf course. Did you delete that par three? I made the nicest part three of all time with that.

So you do, but you deleted whatever we saw. Oh, yeah. Oh, thank God. You guys wouldn't believe how nice Knows Creek is since I, since I last, you guys last played it. When's the world premiere of Nights Creek? Do we know? We have 2K21. PGA Tour, 2K21 is in our possession.

We played it last night. I've been playing it a shit ton. I played a lot last night. I started my tour. I started my career. Me too. You're on the Q School? No, I jumped right to the PGA Tour.

See, you're such a fucking Iowan. It's crazy. What does that mean? I grinded my way through Q school. I felt like an unfair shot. I grinded my way through fucking... Well, you're an idiot walking around. I don't.

I jumped right to the PGA tour. I jumped right to the PGA. How many rounds do you play on yours? Because they give you the option. You can do one round, two, round, three rounds or four. Oh, like I said, the tournament. So I played in my first qualifier the other day at fucking TPC DER run, whatever the fuck you call that place.

You got it, yeah. And I played great. I was two under. And also, so PGA tour 2K21, which is coming out, I think August 24. first, August 22nd, we're going to have to double check that. But it's in like a week or two. It's, they've added so much customization to the difficulty.

So PGA, so the golf club 2019, their predecessor, was not customizable. It was just like beginner, hard and impossible, basically, the three options. Now you can, like, decipher which parts of the game you want to be easier and harder. Like, do you want, like, the down swing to be registered at, like, a, crazy rate. So like if you say you want that on easy, you'll hit the ball less like far, but it'll, it won't affect your slice and, and, and draw as much. Whatever, you can, you can just, you can change so many things. So I've, I've found my settings that I like and I've played a lot better. I was, I, Trent, when I first played, I was plus 17 through nine holes. I said,

what's your God? And I was on, I was on hard on everything. And I don't know how anyone can play the game on that. I mean, you have to legitimately be, I think you legitimately have, like, to Shoot even par as a golfer on the real golf course. You have to be like a pro. I think to get even par in 2K21 on expert, you have to be a pro. I think that's how they made. No, you have to tweak the settings so it's not impossible. And then the game is really, really fun.

Like I played, we had some trouble with the streaming last night where we couldn't stream 2K. So we played golf club 2019. But then as soon as we were off stream, I started playing 2K21 again to the point where I had to like tell myself. to go to bed because I knew we had this podcast early, but I had to be like, all right, you got to stop playing this because you need to go to bed to be able to wake up. It's just super fun. And like, we're going to be streaming it soon, hopefully. Just so everybody knows, Frankie has been doing this entire podcast, perfectly horizontal

with his head leaning against his hand like Rose in Titanic, the entire show. No, isn't your arm going to go numb or is it going to be hurt? You're getting older now. For the people that are listening, today is Frankie's birthday when you're listening to this, I thought I'm surprised I'm the first one to bring this up. But, you know, when you listen to us, Frank, it will be, what, 27? And now do we have to say it? Do we all have to say it now?

Well, it's, do we sing it? It's disingenuous because, I mean, it's not really his birthday. It's still a good amount of way. But when people are listening, it will be. Good birthday week, though, Frankie. Tomorrow I'll send you a happy birthday. It's a good birthday week. One of my good friends ruined a birthday surprise, I guess.

People were throwing for me. Come on. Saturday. Well, I'm back in the city tonight. And because, you know, I had, I drove Dave from Montauk to New York City and we knocked that a bunch of pizza reviews and did a couple of videos. It was a whole day. So I stayed in New York City tonight, going to the office right now.

Even though you're not his guy anymore. You're just, for years, you're just going to be phased out of being his guy. Yeah, you know, last July. He said, like, oh, yeah, by July, it'll be done. That was last July. That was 13 months ago. nobody's counting a lot's been happening it has happened in that year so i can i can see why it's been hard to make the switch but i like where i'm at right now that's good um but anyway

i'm sitting at dinner went to the smith actually across from our old office good spot me and trent were talking about the stream last night real solid spot really good fucking i got a nice cocktail there good cocktails i had a pasta dish with fucking mussels and clams and it was unreal um and i'm sitting there and he's like i had to seen him in a while he's one of my roommates and he's been in the city and stuff so i was so we're talking he's like oh saturday should be fun and i was like yeah and he's like yeah so what are you wearing like you got your luau outfit i was like yeah yeah yeah i got that and i was like what the fuck is this guy talking about what in the world and then he like kind of let it go i think he saw i was like i didn't

know what the fuck he's talking about and then he doubled down he's like so is your family like coming on Saturday is it just us? Like the boys and like the girls and stuff like like what's going on here? I was like, bro, I got to be honest with you. I agreed with you 10 seconds ago, but I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. What Louis out? Like what are you talking about? I was like, ah, shit.

So, yeah, that was so I got something going on Saturday. I don't know. Well, happy birthday, Frankie. Oh, thanks. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah. Glad the Rangers could celebrate with you. It was awesome.

It's not a hockey pocket. We're not going to talk about how you guys have now. The Islanders and the Rangers. have now flip-flopped on what is the meaning of success? Like, is it being the lower barrel of the fucking NHL and taking the crumbs of the draft? Or is it making the playoffs at a consistent rate and actually competing? It's, if you get to the bottom, like the Islanders never did,

you want to get right to the first pick. Because if you get that... You guys didn't get to the bottom, though. You guys barely missed the playoffs, and now I get the number of pick because of COVID bullshit. This is crazy that the Rangers got the first. I'm not rattled. I'm just mad. No, I can see you're rattled. Thank you, though.

Go Rangers. My whole point about it is, like, you guys are excited about this first overall pick so that one day you can get to where the Islanders are right now. No, no, no, we're not trying to get to where, like, you get, win one round. What do you mean? Like, the Islanders haven't played their first Stanley Cup. But the Islanders haven't played their first game of the playoffs yet. We just won the Qualify.

But they won't win the Stanley Cup. You can't say that. Like, right now, on today's day, the Islanders are. zero and zero in the first round. They're about to play the Washington Capitals. You guys, the Rangers, got that first pick. You're all having fucking parties and celebrating because one day, the thought is maybe this guy will make your team better for you to make the playoffs.

And I'm already there. So don't come at me with this bullshit that the Rangers are in a better spot and all stuff. Like you guys aren't even there yet. So many things have to happen correctly for you to get where the islanders currently are. No, not where the currently are. No. If they win another round or two, then yes, a lot of things.

Insistently making the playoffs go well, but not where they are now. Holy shit, you just don't get it. We don't see how to eye on this. No, we're not a hockey podcast. No, it's not a high podcast. Does anyone else get what I'm saying? By the way, Blues play at 1030 Eastern tonight. It was a five overtime game last night.

Yeah, absolutely bonkers. It's not a hockey podcast. So we have to get into a lot of different things, especially this whole golf week column. I don't know if you guys saw this from this guy, Dulch. I think that's his name. Craig Dulch. We're going to get into that.

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I see the tweet says, Dolch, Justin Thomas's F-bomb outbursts are becoming too much. So I click and I go through this guy's article about how J.T. Is some professional that gets paid to be a professional, not to be cursing on television and out him dropping F-bombs. And the video that he's referencing is when JT's putt barely misses, barely burns the edge. And he says, dude, are you fucking kidding me? is what he's getting.

You've got to be fucking kidding me because he just can't get a punch. We've all been there. It's very relatable. Makes you understand this guy's not a robot. He's not a machine. He's not just some boring cookie cutter guy to watch on the PJA tour. He's got a little personality. He's upset.

He says what we say, it's great. It's just better. It's better for golf overall. I think we all agree with that. Well, this guy, Dolch is going through. He says, this is not the way the son and grandson of PGA professional should be acting on the course. makes me a puke. They threw up in my mouth, but then I'll thank God it went back down.

There are so many things wrong that I don't know if this guy's serious because I think that it definitely is going to get clicks. It's going to get people like us riled up and quote tweet it and respond and bring it up on the podcast. So part of me didn't even want to bring it up because I don't want him to be happy that we brought it up. But I think he's serious. I think overall this was an honest take.

he had the lines in there about what are the kids going to think. He genuinely, there wasn't ironic, it wasn't a joke. It wasn't him laughing about it. He put in, if this were a junior event in the South Florida PGA, Thomas would be warned after the first offense and removed from the course and suspended after the second offense. Guess what? It's not a junior event.

It's the PGA parking door. He's an adult. Yeah. I didn't read it. I don't have time for these things anymore. We've seen them come and go. I mean, as long as we've been doing the podcast, I'm sure we'll see. it. I mean, we'll keep seeing it. We'll see it less and less because people aren't this stupid.

And I do think that he did it for clicks, but it is worthy to bring up just so we can make fun of him because this stuff is so stupid that people still think this way. And I, you know, I tweeted out that video of Justin Thomas saying that. And it got, it got 5,000 retweets and like 40,000 favorites. Like, I don't want, that's not the two my own horn on the numbers. That's just saying, like, a mega tweet. People fucking. Love it. And like of the 5,000 retweets, like two, like half of them were quote tweets of just people being like, this is super relatable. Like I guarantee this guy's article probably got more clicks than he usually gets, but it probably got not that many. And he's tooting his own horn about it. But the fact of the matter is people like showing this stuff is going to win out. These articles that people like they clutch their pearls and they cry about the F word, that stuff is going to die out long before people stop liking seeing professional. athletes be humans. So guys like this, Dulchman or whatever, he can go fuck himself. He's going to die out. He's a dinosaur. I don't know how old he is, but he's probably 85 years old. I don't want to steal Frankie's line, but put him in a home and just like let us all do our thing. Well, that's what I was going to say. I was going to say good news for Dulch Daddy or whatever this fucking guy's name is. But, you know, next to Huggsy, next to Shackleford, Mr. Little old Mr. Rogers has moved on to the other side. So there's a, there's a room that's opened up in the home.

and that's where we need to put Dutch Daddy in. Are you going to keep tabs of everybody in the home? Well, there's three people now in the home, and they're all perfectly perched out at the night. Can you put on one of the sides of the fairways of one of the holes at Knives Creek, like a legit home, you know, elderly home? That's where we put on.

Copulate it with these people. On the fourth hole, that's where old Huggsy stays. He's got a huge pot of land there, so you can put it just miles. away. You can put it across the lake and make it massive. In my lake, there's actually like a little piece of grass. It's almost like a mini island in the lake. And it's kind of like an oasis out there, but there's no way of getting on or off that island. So I think if you put the fucking house right in the middle of those little cherry trees or wherever I got out there, that's a perfect

place for them to just go and die. Right. Like they look out across the lake. There's a golf course over there, but there's no way of getting off it unless they swim. It's an alka. trials for old people. Correct. That's where I'll be putting it. That's a good idea. Yeah. I think you've got to add that to the creek. You'll be able to see it from one of the greens too, which is hilarious. I have to remember to put that in. Someone who's remind me that. But I had to mention this Dolch guy, just a preposterous article. And then one of his other lines was, but Thomas is a professional and he's paid extremely well to act professionally. Not true. He's actually paid extremely well because

he wins golf tournament. So that's not. He doesn't have to be a role model. Nope. I can say that all the time. Like, I'm not here to be a role model. I got here and got, when I signed that contract, they signed me for my athletic ability

and they signed me because I play on this team or in golf's case, like he got, he just made it based off of his own athletic abilities and attributes and stuff that got him there. He hasn't, his personality and what he, his upbringing and,

And his voice to the world was not taking into account at all when he was put into that tournament at all. All about what number he can shoot. Right. And he's all guys struggling to win a major right then and there. And like he just missed the pot and he's frustrated by it. And like he just released that emotion. I just scan the article quickly. And he also drops the line.

I remember watching an LPA tour event 20 years ago with my daughter, Alexandra, when Doddy Pepper hit an offline show. God. Dang it, Donnie, she scolded herself. A day later, my daughter got upset and something and yelled, dang it, Doddy. The next time I saw Pepper, I profusely thanked her for her choice of words, he goes on to say. It's one of the worst dudes in the world. I will say it's a polarizing topic, at least on Twitter, because under that video of mine, a goddamn brawl, like, broke out for five to six hours about that exact thing that Lurch just brought up about, like, kids watching. Like they're like well if my kids watch and I don't want them to hear that and then somebody would come over the top to the point where and I quote you it somebody told another guy's seven year old to go fuck him stuff.

It was it was incredible. So it is something that people think about where they're like what of my child is watching this. I'll never understand the whole like hearing a swear word and that being the end of the world like if like if you're parenting style in comes to. an end when like somebody swears on TV, then I just, I don't know what to do. I don't know. Correct. I completely agree with that. And if your kid is watching that and then the next day you guys are out playing golf and your

son hits a bad pot and says, are you fucking kidding me? You probably, as the adult parent, laugh a little bit and then you talk to your child and say, hey, actually, that's a really bad word and like be a parent and figure it out. But that doesn't make your child all of a sudden ruin. Your child is not over because now you have. or whatever. It's just crazy town that they think that that has to transform the entire way that a human being, Justin Thomas, acts in the heat of the moment when you put zero thought into what you're saying because it's raw reaction, which is what we want. And some of the other tweets

were like, how hypocritical is it of these fuckers that they demand and complain that players aren't accessible, that they're robots, that they don't get any personality, they don't get any candidness out of them yet then they also complain when they get pure candidness out of them it just doesn't make any sense you can't have it both ways the way that we want it is the way that that justice thomas does it which is just natural it's not doing anything fake it's just who he is right they like that's impossible to live on both sides of those coins to say um like no you can't curse but then i want like a more honest open like kind of like rapport with you it's like no that doesn't work. You can't have it. You can't have this like country club golfer from like the old

in that days that like just sits in this like perfect persona would never curse and is this and that. It just doesn't work. Being upset by like naughty words is so childish to me. Like so that people that people hear Justin Thomas say that and they're like, oh my goodness. Like that's just like I can't imagine living like that. And I think the major point that we're getting to is these people, they're going away. Just, you know, by. Nature is taking them away in a form of death. They're going away. So I think we're going to win out ultimately.

But just thinking about people getting upset about words is just very funny to me. It's also the same guy that curses off his lawnmower, though, like an hour later. Like he's like, no, J.T. can't do this. But then when his lawnmower won't start, he's like, just a fucking piece of shit. Yeah. Or he's just so, like, Trent's right. I'm imagining, like, a 46-year-old man who has a pretty decent job, works pretty hard, makes okay money,

raising a little family, but he's so immature that when he's watching the coverage and he hears J.GG covers his mind, he can't believe what he heard, and he doesn't know now how is he going to for the next several months, tell his children that the words that they heard are some of the worst words and the English.

They're just, who cares? Like, it doesn't matter. How can that affect your child's upbringing and how they're going to be? I'm a person. Like, what are you talking about? It just doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

I don't know how I live on the same earth with these people. Like how I could have such a different take on, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's crazy to me that people actually think that way. It makes my brain hurt to think that someone could actually genuinely hear Justin Thomas say, are you fucking kidding me? And like, write a blog like that. Well, and we also live in a world where we've been on the internet. long enough where people know that these type of articles get clicks because they are polarizing

we are talking about it on the podcast. So whether or not it's 100% genuine the way that he feels about what Justin Thomas said, I can't speak to. But I do feel a bit cynical because we've seen these articles come and go and they do get a lot of clicks when they appear. But then these people just go away until the next thing happens and he writes about it again. So I'm not convinced that he's 100% genuine with what he's saying. Yeah, I agree with you. You know, I think he knows, right? So take it, take it a little bit. You have to understand.

Take a great talk, whatever. But the point is, if they're going to keep writing about them, we have to just shut them down because I do think, and you could go, there was one reply from a just perfect cookie cutout of a Karen just replied with, like, I'm so distraught in society looking at the replies to this tweet. And then somebody's response was like, chill out, have a cocktail care. It was just perfect. It was such a detachment, it was such a difference, discrepancy between our normal, you know, take on the entire thing.

And some people who just, they think it's the end of the world. So we have to cover it. Quickly, I just, a question to the group, where do you place the blame if you were going to place blame? Do you place it on JT? I'm not saying that I am, but if I was going to place blame, would you even place blame? would you even place it on JT or would you place it on the golf coverage for potentially like bleeping it out if that's the way that they wanted to cover it. Like I would put it on the coverage.

I wouldn't even put it on JT as the guy that screwed up. Never. I don't think there was a screw-off, but there's obviously mics by the greens, right? So I guess it would fall on the coverage. But I don't think anyone needs to issue any sort of apology. No, and I'm not saying that. But if I was like, if I was going to say like,

where is maybe the miss, I would say it's in the coverage, not in JT's reaction. Right, which ultimately, ultimately that point is that this, this Dulch character is several layers off in his blog. Right. That's what that's kind of what I'm getting at is like he's not, he's not even close to where, like, the problem might lie. And maybe there's another area of where the miss is that I'm not even seen, but I literally think player coverage, then I view it.

And I literally think, like, if you want it, then the coverage can be that. that, you know, that governor, so to speak, what allows it to get out. And maybe I subscribe to, like, an F-rated channel, and I'm fine with that. You never want to dissuade players from being themselves. So you don't want to place any sort of, quote-unquote, blame on them. It's the coverage if, I mean, obviously, there were mics there, and they don't, I mean, that was a hot mic. It was as hot.

I felt, I felt like I could feel Justin Thomas's breath on my face when he said it. It was, I mean, it was like he was right next to me, which I love. But you would have to put it on the. just for for having that on there, but I think it's a net gain for ever. It's like he, it's like this guy saw his neighbor's lawn looks pathetic and like blame the weatherman.

Instead of looking, be like, actually a neighbor, you should have got Scots. And if you had Scott's lawn, you'd have a perfect, you'd have a beautiful green, luscious lawn. We're not even two from the gallery yet.

We're not supposed to do an aderee, but I had that little segue right there and I just had to deliver it. We're going to get more to Scots. And we're going to talk about the differences and how beautiful it is. First, we have to get to the U.S. Amateur. So the U.S.S. Amner quickly.

U.S.A.M. Jack Nicholas considers it a major championship. He, anytime you ask him to tally up his total majors, he always says he's at 20 because he counts two U.S. amateurs as majors, which fine, if you're going to play that game. One, Eldrick Taunt Woods has three of them, so fine. We can play that game all day long, Jack, if you want to, from the home, whatever. But U.S. Aminer. phenomenal. Last year it was at Pinehurst. They did Pioneer's number two and Pinehurst number four. Andy Ogletree won the thing. He actually ended up missing the cut yesterday at Bandon.

But it's at Bandon dude. So Bannon is, you know, we've talked about it a handful of times on this show. I think I'm the only one that's been there. I've been there a couple times. Nobody else has it yet. Frankie had moronically bailed out on a family trip, I think, a couple years ago and has regretted it ever since. Point is. Okay, Frankie? U.S. Amateur. coverage, I think for the next few days, is like 7 to 9 p.m. on Golf Channel, and then over the weekend, it's a little bit more, a little bit more extensive. But Bandon, again, is one of those places that, you know, it's relatively new. Late 90s is when they created Bandon, have expanded it, built five 18-hole courses now with a sixth course, which is the Part 3 course, but it's a

destination trip. It's not a championship venue, at least it's not considered. that yet, right? Like Pinehurst has a 100-year history of hosting championships, U.S. Open, PGAs, Riders, Cubs, USAM, all kinds of stuff. Bandon does not. And now they have, and they are getting and

hosting the U.S. Amateur. So, it's the best players in the world that have not turned professional yet playing Bandon Dunes, playing Bandon Trails, the Cliffs of Oregon, the views, the spectacular land. So if you're interested in that, you're still

getting your, you want to get your fix after watching major championship golf all weekend. Check out abandoned because the drone footage, the, just the footage in general of this place, these guys playing it. It's link style golf. It's phenomenal. Go check out the U.S. Amher at Band of Dunes. Get your fix this week.

And then the last thing I want to bring up before we get to from the gallery, which you guys don't know about yet, is U.S. Open Media Day at Wingfoot is in about two weeks. It's, I think, August 25th. You guys knew that. Yep. The latest information, and this is all very understandable, is, you know, we had plans to do four-man scramble. We've done the Mulligan Challenge before.

We've usually had, with our very good friends at the United States Golf Association, close personal friends, kind of the run of the middle. We can do content-wise, whatever we want. They love it because we get a lot of eyeballs. It gets people hyped up for the U.S. Open, casual sports fans that follow martial sports. you know, they get driven in, they get reminded that the U.S. Odom was coming up. Well, with COVID-19, global pandemic access is significantly limited. So the U.S.GA only has a few T-T times for Media Day.

Barstrel Sports has a tea time, but we have one spot, one human being can play wingfoot on August 25th, which is Media Day. So it begs the question, do we do a qualifier? Do we do a play in? Do we do something where the winner of X competition plays wing foot? And we do, you know, what's that person going to shoot? We've come up with content ideas around that. But I thought rather than do it offline, we could try to figure out a good format online publicly that the people can be aware of to see who gets to play Wingfoot Golf Club

just a few weeks before the USO. I like that idea. I like the qualifier type deal. I mean, that's an opportunity for the boys. Another round we could play something along those lines to try to determine and get down to one. One person gets to play it.

And then the other's punishment can be. I mean, I think we can have people there. I don't, I mean, it's probably a little limited, but we have to be able to film it. So I don't know what the,

I don't know exactly what the format should be, but we got to come up with something. The person who is like the worst in the, qualifying would have to caddy. And then like you just make tears of it. I think it's really good. I wonder what it could be though. Could be low net, you know?

Like that's a simple way to do it. You could do, you could do like a actual. I thought you're going to say it begs a question that if a four man scramble does that count as one person on a T-sheet? That's a good. You could ask them that. I doubt it because the whole reason for the rule. are to keep less people. Human beings, physical human beings.

I was going to ask them if we could do, what if we just did a pure four-person alternate shot? What if like, you know, I don't know if we're allowed to do that, I doubt it. But we're like, yeah, no, that one tee time is out. We're just all four going to play at that tea time. I don't know what to tell them because we have one spot. Fuck.

We could have, we could literally have, A driver guy, which I think would be Frankie. We'd have an iron guy, which would be me. Chipping rigs, putting, Trent. And then, like, you only bring those clubs. Wow, that would be pretty sweet, actually. I like that. I like that a lot, actually.

We have one bag. So, Frankie, you just bring your driver, three-wood hybrid, like, whatever you need off. So good. Then I'll just bring, like, my mid-irons. Riggs, you bring kind of like... 100 yards and in. I'm 100 yards and in. Exactly.

I'll just stroll up with my putter. That'll be awesome. Awesome. Yeah, Lurch. You're 100 yards to 300 yards basically is like you. And then her 250 or whatever. And then Frankie is like 250 plus, which is just be driver every time. Damn, I fucking love that idea.

That's really good. Not a bad idea. Just see what we shoot. That's it. Again, and it'd be funny. Imagine Frankie T's off. They just walks to the next T-Bomb. Just waiting over there.

The problem is that, It goes against exactly what they're trying to stop. It's just having people on the golf course. I don't think they care about what kind of swings we take. It's a great idea, but there's no way they're going to allow that. They're going to go, well, no, I don't care where you swing or how you swing. You just can't physically be there. Or else you could have the clubs in your bag have no effect on COVID.

No, we wanted four people on the T-sheet. Now, we have seven. No, this doesn't. So this person is going to play with a random person at the U.S. Open. Three random people. Three random people? Wow. I think so.

Because like I said, the USA, and I don't know how much they want, but they only have a limited number instead of having, because usually they have, you know, usually how it works. Shackleford get one of these spots? Like, come on, who the hell else is getting out there? I really doubt Shackleford has one, but if he does, like, you know, we should take it an interesting angle. It's like we should take it or we should play with them.

That would be unreal if we played against the dinosaurs. that would be good fucking Huggins dinosaurs think about how much pressure would be on it if like we call ourselves

the comet well if we would be qualifier around and we just had one person against the dinosaurs

going to it would be a must win you have to win for us we are the comet and we're here to fucking

wipe them all out yeah we got extinction on our minds we got extinction on our minds Trent's walking up with his putter. Extinction on my mind.

Yeah, we got to feel out to figure, wow, is that a push-a-tee? Yeah. Reference? I will say, if we can get it, if we can get it, not to scramble, but I think the drive, wedge, chip, and putt challenge, should to speak, would be the best one possible. Really good. I don't, I don't think anything that involves all of our people being there.

It's why I really. I don't understand why that's not a lot. out. I'm not understanding. That's more about. Keep emailing them. Like if they keep being back, like, no, we can't. You can only have one.

Be like, no, no, no. I know. But we're only, it's going to be one score. It's, damn it, that's such a good idea. Yeah. Or if we could ship a bag out to them, would just, like, just one set, but it just had four play on it, like it was custom. And it just had all different clubs and the four of us just showed up.

No, we're yeah. No, this is our bag. We're just, we all use it. What do you think? That's just what's happening. Yeah, I could email them and act like I just don't get it. I don't hate that at all. Just play stupid until eventually they're like, like they just don't want to deal with it.

They just allow it. I'm just thinking of like the marketing coordinator just getting so frustrated by this. Like I said no, and then I explained it. And then you just come back. No, no, no. That's great. We're all four of us are going to be there. And she's like, no, no, no, no.

But you can't because this and that and this and that. No, no. Cool. Yeah. I'm trying to think of ways where we could be one person. Like, that's the problem, right? Where they don't want more people. Like, if we, like, handcuffed ourselves to each other

where we couldn't get too far away from each other, it's got, I just wished all four of us could be there. Yeah. What if one person ran off, like, everybody ran off the hole? And then it was like you get tagged in and you run into the hole. And then, you're like, no, there's only one of us as playing a hole at a time. You just wait off to the side, you just look in there, and then as soon as, like, it's time to putt, I just run on.

Yeah. Imagine Trent, like the WWE, Trent comes running in from the, you know, behind the 12th grade in his butt. I mean, in a while it almost works where, like, Riggs and Trent pretty much just walk from, like, green to green to green. Frankie walks from T-box to T-box to T-box. And then I just walk kind of meander through the middle of the fairways, and we just have a cat who carries one.

that would hurt us though because we're like we need to be there to chirp each other and yeah so it kind of kills it um anyways listeners i guess we're not going to get the bottom of right now clearly because all we've done is talk about how we're just going to lie to the us jays yeah uh listeners you got a good idea i think maybe we'll do a play in maybe we'll see well obviously see if we can get away with all four of us being there or six of us being there with jake and ebug but it seems unlikely so uh we got to come up with that idea because we have one spot in two weeks to play wing foot problem that us playing wing foot is more

like is going to do more for social like us playing it than anyone else in that media day not to sound like crazy but like they're just going to like ever if you just write a blog about how nice wing foot is like sure like anyone like we it's wingfoot's the US open golf course like us playing it is like content in it right like the people playing a media day aren't going to make content

about them playing wing foot they're just going to play it and then like talk about it and they may not even talk about it may just be like a cool thing they get to do right My point is like we should get a fucking desic. They should block off T-Tons in front of us and behind us. We should have the whole golf course ourselves. Let's go out there on a Wednesday or something. Let me talk to the USG.

I'll call them. I'll make the decisions around here. We make the decisions. Yeah. No, we don't. I don't. I don't disagree with you, Frankie. I think that we're.

You know my point, though. They're just playing out there to have a good time. Shackleford's out there to take a walk. I don't know if Shackaford's there. I think we just don't know if that's the case. Point is we got to figure it out. So we could also just talk to wait for it. Say, can we come on a Monday when the course is closed and just do our thing on Monday?

That might, yeah, yeah. So anyways, I thought it'd be interesting for the public to know that and see if we could do a play in or something that could be fun. U.S. Open is based on doing a qualifier to get into the U.S. Open. So qualifying via us could be interesting. I don't know. We'll see. Next up. Wait, hold on.

One, before we go to that, I got to announce that press. release just came out. Zach Johnson honored with PJ Tour's Payne Stewart Award presented by Southern Company. I just wanted to say congratulations to Zach Johnson on winning the Payne Stewart Award. For those that don't know, it's presented annually to a professional golfer who best exemplifies the values of character, charity, and sportsmanship. So that is for my guy, ZJ. Shout out to him. What an honor. What an award. Nobody deserves it more than you, pal. And so if you guys want to say some thoughts on Zach Johnson. I don't know what you want to do.

He had to give him, giving that out before they saw him in his shorts and, like, his little tits were popping out of his shirt, right? No, but it just happened right now. So they saw the tits, they saw the shorts, and, you know, they still said we're still going to give him this Payne Stewart Award. It's an incredible accomplishment. So I don't want you guys to take it lightly. I want you guys to, I don't know, maybe say a few words about Zach Johnson.

That's just kind of like, I mean, it's a great award, but it's just a good. Are you going to shit on charity right now? No, but that's just, it's like a retirement award kind of thing. Right? No, no, it's not. It's like the Walter Payton Award that Kyle Rudolph got. I know, but like nobody under like 50 gets it. Zach Johnson's under 50.

It's a long-standing. That's a good point there. Yeah, great, great point. It's a man. It's a man. It's a man. Dale Irwin, Bernard Langer, Stewart. I'm in a tough spot because I love Paine's, you know,

Payne Stewart, kind of the history, pioneer, Stewart. So, you know, it's a great reward. Congratulations. The award that has nothing to do with golf, which is a perfect award for Zach Johnson. That's well said. Zach Johnson, by the way, having a Masters and a open at St. Andrews It's so preposterous.

It's so ridiculous that he would have those two wins as probably the two best wins that you can have in the world of golf. Maybe, like, yeah, I think of St. Andrew's Open is better than a U.S. Open at, you know, Pebble Beach. I really do think that. So that's crazy that he has because he's nothing. He is like pathetic. He doesn't hit the ball anywhere. All right, well, he casts a spell on the rest of the field. He's got, I mean, he's got 12 wins, so that's nothing to sneeze at.

It's not like he won those two majors and then that was it. He's won a bunch. And yeah, it is. Having to win at Augusta and having to win at the old course, that is the ideal, those are the ideal venues to win major championships. So, you know, we don't have to get into dissecting Zach Johnson's career and how illustrious and amazing it is. I just wanted you guys to know that he won the paintstreet.

award because he's an awesome guy. And, you know, his, his trophy case just continues to fill up. Like, if you can do, if you could pick the top two golf photos to have of yourself, it's putting on a green jacket on the 18th green at Augusta National. And it's hosting the claret at the 18th green right in the middle of town at San Jose. Those are like the two greatest got, and Zach fucking Johnson is in those photos. That's amazing. I'm glad we agree, Riggs.

We completely agree on that. It is amazing. That's amazing. You said a little thing there a couple seconds ago that peaked my interest there, Tram. I bet I know what it is. It's nothing to sneeze at. And, you know, I've heard that a lot. I think Dave's used it sometimes in pizza reviews, and I've always acted like I'm just

going to accept the fact that that's what you're saying, even though it means absolutely fucking nothing and it sounds preposterous. So, you know, in Frankie Fact fashion. by the way, Tiger Tracker over the week, during the PJ Championship, when he set me up and teed me up for that Frankie fact on Twitter, it's one of the best Twitter moments I've had on that fucking website. What a layup that was. I mean, he's like, holy shit. Hold on. I got to pull up that whole thing because someone's also response was Tiger Tracker teed up Frankie and he fucking smoked it down the fairway with a 20-yard draw.

I hit him with a well actually. I saw that. That was a good touch. Yeah. So Tiger Tracker wrote after a tiger putt, close but no cigar. And then in parentheses, but what does that even mean anyway? And I hit him with the well, actually, because we talked about in the last show. Circuses and all that shit were geared towards adults and the prizes of all these games,

carnival games and stuff, were actually cigar. So if you came in second, you were close with no cigar. Anyway, nothing to sneeze at actually came. from the 17th century. This is pretty interesting. Sneezing was considered a symbol of status as people believed it cleared their head and stimulated their brain. So soon, sneezing at will became a way to show one's disapproval or lack of interest and boredom. So literally you would like say something and I could sneeze and I cleared my brain of whatever dumb shit you just said. It'd be like a lack of approval or or uh of boredom so the first time that this was recorded as a phrase was during a play by

john till allenham in fortunes frolic where he's talking about the sum of money says why as to this consent i don't have value i don't value in a button but then again five thousand euro or whatever that fucking symbol is is a sum not to be sneezed at huh you shouldn't you shouldn't have any disapproval towards that sum of money was used in that play for that was the first time it was ever used that's pretty much along the lines of how i thought what it meant you thought that sneezing was used as a symbol of status no i thought snee like if you snee i thought it was uh nothing to sneeze at was like nothing to show like disapproval when does anyone sneeze like how would you know that like sneezing was disapproval

and who can sneeze on command sneeze at will if you don't have pepper nearby like how do you how do you like that's not something you can do can't you can't sneeze on will you know what i love doing i'll give you a thousand dollars if you can sneeze in the next 10 seconds fuck it's $1,000 come on boys nothing you can't do anything you're fucking all three of you no no no one of the fake it so like this fucking fact says that people were able to sneeze like when you said something they didn't agree with it's like ah the ranger's sticking you would just sneeze in my face i love season man i sneeze and

feel so good. Sneesing is real dangerous. What? Can't be sneezing now. No, but pre-pandemic sneezing was an underrated sensation. The way it feels. Sneezing in like the shower where you don't have to like cover up or anything. You can just let it rip. And everything goes everywhere. There's only so many places in this world that you can get a free sneeze in a shower. Unfortunately, it used to be like the car too and then you don't realize that you're just all your germs are like kind of just in the car, whoever gets in the car next is whatever. You're right, Frankie. Sneezing in the shower.

That's the place because it's, you can be yourself. It can be a full on authentic sneeze. And yeah, you don't, you know, you just let it rip. Let me, let me tell you this. Sneezing into a mask, stinks. That I have not done yet. Breathing into a mask, sneezing into a mask, it's not, it's not. I would say sneezing into a mask is way worse than just breathing into a mask.

Well, if you have bad breath. When I wear, when I wear glasses, I'm still, you know, we're, you know, we're five months into this thing and I'm still dealing with my glasses fogging up and I have yet to figure out how to make that stop. So you're just, you're walking around just a mask, sneezing up in your own face and then your glasses are fogging up all the time? I try to when my glasses fog up, it just becomes a game of avoid blobs. Just avoid like a car as a blob. You want to avoid people. You don't want to get to, nobody wants to get too close to each other. So I go into full panic mode, but I think I've become a stronger person because of it

because I have skills I didn't realize I had where I can basically walk around New York City blind and I can still find my way around. You need a bane mask or something. I have yet, like nobody gives me good suggestions on how to make my glasses not fog up when I wear a mask. What about, have you ever done just, if you wear the buff, you can pour it a little bit below the nose.

I know this because of a sung up. glasses. But I mean, I guess that's, you're really not doing the right thing, but it's probably better for you. Remember when I, remember the first week of the pandemic when I was doing a video at Borrellys and we were delivering food to the fucking hospitals? And I had the mask beneath my nose and people thought I was the reason why coronavirus was never going to go away. It was like the worst thing in the world because I had never worn a mask before. I didn't know what the fuck. That was six months ago. I'm pretty sure it was like no joke five months ago. We're still, now it's just a normal thing. I remember people going crazy.

Like my kids are watching this and you're not fucking wearing a mask correctly. I was like, wow, I mean, I don't know what the fuck's going on. Now we just know what the fuck's going on. I wear a mask everywhere I go now. It's crazy. You kind of know what's going on. We know how to wear masks. Okay.

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He says, should the Open Championship be played at the home of golf, St. Andrews, every year. The Masters has played at Augusta every year. Why not have the home of golf where golf began be the British Open Championship every year? I actually like that. There's always a sense of, like I'm always kind of just disappointed when the Open comes around. It's not St. Andrews. Like I remind myself, oh, yeah, it's just like Royal Dornick or like, I don't know.

It's just there's a lot of cool courses over there. for sure, and it's cool to see the different ones, especially when you go to Ireland and different areas of that, like that area, different course of that area. But, man, is there nothing better than when they go to St. Andrews? There's nothing better than it. It's, I mean, the Masters is better, but like you said, winning at St. Andrews has to be number two in everyone's mind.

I think you can convince me that I would prefer to win an open championship at the old course than a Masters. I think that's, it's, I think, I am I don't, I mean, the Open Championship, might win it by a nose. Like it's just, and I do think they should play it always at the old course. There's people across the pond who would likely disagree with that. Like you're saying Frankie because there's so many cool courses over there in that area.

But if I was a guy, we just talked about it was Zach Johnson. If I were to win an open championship that weren't at the old course, a very, very, very small piece of me in the back of my head would be like, damn, I wish this was at the old course. And I think a lot of guys feel that way they would never admit it. here's here's the only reason and if if you did if they did just change it and it was at the old course every year there'd be no complaining i wouldn't complain at all i'd be very happy about it the reason is that they don't have another option like we can get away with it at the masters because

the u.s open goes to all the other cool courses in america right in the british open situation they don't they would just only have one course that they show every year so if there was like a British Open and then like a St. Andrews masters, then yeah, I think everybody would be in on that. But it'd just be tough for the, you know, the continent basically that started Godd and has dozens of amazing tracks to just only be able to showcase in that entire part of the world, just one course every year. They would probably be rattle about that. But outside of that, it's a no brain of the old course. And I'm with you, Trent. I think winning at the old course is probably cooler than anything else in the world.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they get shafted. We have three of them. We have Masters. We have the O's Open. We have the PGA. They just have one. So I'm on the side that they should keep kind of showcasing that side of the world because they only have one because they just got shafted in the deal.

There's four majors. They have one of them. But it is. It's just more special than, you know, any other venue. I think it's hard to argue any other open championship being close to the old. course. Nothing. Nothing is close. The road, the hotel hole where you're hitting it over, the road hole where you're hitting it over the hotel, 181, like that first teacher, it's just the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole thing is on such another level. And it's

different than Augusta because anybody can go play it. Right. Anybody can just go stand in line and play the old course. So we can also walk the property with your dog, which is, it just turns into a park, which is, Laugh, L. L. L. L. funny in terms of how different the cultures are of augusta you get shot at if you're within five miles they like know who you are like where you were born etc the old course you just bring your dog out to the 17th or 18th fairway first fairway and just you can poop on the fairway and you can just pick it up with a back it's like how different we are as people yeah and so you have to right and that kind of goes to the point like you have to be able to showcase all of or as much of uh Scottish

and just basically UK golf as possible, British golf as possible. And just limiting it to one course kind of screws them. But I wouldn't complain. If they just said we're doing the old course every single other, I wouldn't complain. Part of me does think, right? Like Rory, for example, you know,

Rory's got an open championship title. But if he's going to go down as one of the greats, it's like you need to win at the old course. Yeah. You know, like I think at some point his, like he still has. more to accomplish. He doesn't, he hasn't checked all of the box for British Open because, like, no, no, you still now need to win one at the old course, I feel like. And that's weird. That's a little

different. And so that's always going to kind of be in play. And it is always a little bit disappointing, I feel like. Now, Royal Port Rush last year was as cool as could be. A course, see in that course, everybody loved it. It was great for the town, for Northern Ireland, all that stuff. Well, and that, like, Lowry went and it was huge for that, too. Like, if you're from that area, like if the Open Championship happens to go to a place, it's not the old course, but that other

place is like where you're from, then it means a whole lot more, a whole lot more. Yeah. And you, you know, and all these other, right, the Open Roto, which is kind of like the U.S. Open and the USDA are now basically trying to copy that to a

degree because it's such a good formula that it means a lot to these different regions in Scotland, in England, and now even in Northern Ireland, where, like, yeah, every seven years or whatever it is, like the Open Championship comes here, and it means a lot to that part, and the world gets exposed to these different regions across the UK, and it's cool. So eliminating all that's a problem, but if it's just strictly selfish American golf fans that want to tune in and see the coolest thing to see every year, it would be the Open Championship at St. Andrews.

next one spencer says what do you all consider actually said what do you all consider shout it to jake bass uh what do you all consider a long par three my buddy considers a 180 yards as long question mark um what do you consider a long par three if i said anything over 200 yards. How long is the third hole at Paso Tampa? Long. Oh my gosh. 220. 25 yards. I see that hole in my nightmares. Whatever that hole is. That's the hardest hole in golf. That's the hardest hole in golf. I would say it's up there for one of the hardest holes that you can put on a golf course. But I think that's a fair line. I think like anything over 185 yards, I would technically say is like a long part three. Yeah, those are long,

but I think like I only really mentally complain or like I say something to myself when I see the number two like 200 or I'm like gosh sure this is going to be a poke if it's 185 I'm like all right I could still at least like maybe get a six iron there like I don't have to swing as hard like I guess like I'm if I'm 185 in the fairway I'm not really thinking about it if I'm think I'm 210 on a T box I'm thinking about it yeah I think it aligns to me with what you consider a long iron yeah so if I have to hit a long iron in so me it's probably like I think a six iron is kind of the edge like the the line between long and mid irons I still think six is probably more of a midiron and then once you get to like five four those are all I think long irons so if you've got a five iron which means like five irons won't what 185 one nine or something five iron for me that's like so I'm starting to get into pretty long that's kind of a longish part three but I do think yeah if it's if I hit a T shot and I've got you know one something under

200 in I don't consider it like a long approach in really so then why would I consider a part three that's 185 along part three so it's tricky anything over two is a no brainer I think the 190 185 range is a little close such an incredible feeling absolutely

like roasting a long iron on a long part three the other day I had like I was playing Rockville and it was playing like 216 into this green and I took a four iron and when was at our back, so I felt really good over it. And I was just playing really well. So I'm like, I'm going to hit this green.

And I hit this thing right on the fucking screws. And everyone in the group's like, great ball, like as it's just flying there. No better feeling than that. Because like you can get up to like 110 yard, 120 yard part three. And you can kind of just like muff one on there. You have to hit a golf shot to get it onto the green from 2.15 away. Like you have to legitimately roast the ball and watch it roll on the green and go towards a pin. like that is that's a good feeling it feels like you're doing something right yeah there's a difference

between hitting a eight iron and you're standing there going i'm supposed to hit this on to the green and pulling a four iron or five iron and standing there being like okay if i hit this on the green it's a miracle and then doing it because the ball flies a little lower then it kind of rises and then when it lands because there's more anticipation too because it's in the air for longer so you're kind of looking like wait did i actually do it did i do it did i do it and then it land you're like oh i fucking did it. Let's go. So it is more satisfying. But I do hate when every course, like all the par threes are 205. Too de-day everyone. When they make up their distance in the par three is so frustrated. It's like every other hole is like driver wedge, driver wedge, and then you give me a 210 par three.

It's like, come on. I think part three is the hardest holes in the golf course. Yeah, so that's why I kind of like think of like three. Each hole. You don't have a chance to make a mistake. Yeah, on a golf course, like I think it's a long part three if it's like net much longer than all my approach shots because I think um like if I'm hitting like driver and I usually have like 140 150 in and then the par three is are long much longer than that consistently I think it's like kind of a long part three for the course um yeah but if you by that logic if you have average a 145 in you get to a hole that's 160 you're calling that a long part three just long for the golf course like I just think that like I don't I think it's like relative to the

golf course in terms of its length. Like if you play. Like a ski slope. Like the way that they do ski slopes. Yeah, a little bit. Did you know that ski slopes, a lot of people think if you get a black diamond, that's in people that, well, I feel like they're way harder at other resorts or other mountains than this one.

That's because they're all relative. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like relative to the mountain. So you might have a fucking blue at, you know, veil that's significantly harder than a blue at Killington because it's all relative to the mountain. So you're on the ski slope. I'm a ski slope right now.

Yes. That's a great analogy. Yeah. That's what I'm at. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah, I would say you get to the 190 range. I think that's pretty long.

Tries me nuts when you show up to, like you're in a match and you're getting strokes against someone. And like you get it to a par three. It's like 195 over three bunkers. It's an impossible shot. And on the course handicap, it's like 15. I never understand it. How is that possible?

Meanwhile, like the number two handicaps, just like a dog leg left. 420 yard par 4 where like if you just hit a good drive it's a normal hole right or are they really like a par 5 for example that's like maybe 500 yards give me a 700 yard anything out there you'll have like if you literally just advance two balls you'll have 100 yards in at the worst and it's somehow it's like the number two handicapped and you're like I don't I fundamentally don't understand this part five playing a par three from 100 yards par five don't get in my head you can make it 620 yards. If you tell me it's a three-shot hole, I'm okay with it. I have to hit a drive out there. I have to hit another long hybrid or whatever, but I'm just taking swings. I feel like

even if you like skull one and it's still advances, like you're still in the hole. Even if you get on in four, you still have that putt for par. Par fives are so much easier to play than par threes. It's absolutely insane. They are, but probably not for the like bogey ga. I don't know. I don't know because when you ask like an average you know 13 handicapped or something that they have to hit a driver and then they have to hit like a long iron and then they have to hit an approach shot and then they have to hit a chip or a couple puts it's that's asking a lot where if they step up to a part three it's like you just got to get lucky once and I feel like they're more likely to do that yeah yeah I guess just the opportunity to get like to get closer on that second shot than you

would on the par three is like where it makes it easier for me. Like you can like if it's like a 510 or 520 or par 5 like you can maybe get on in two if you hit like two really good shots and like or like if you just hit it into the rough like aside from the green now you're just chipping on and like you can kind of just get one up there and now you have a two putt for par as opposed to like you have to make a really good shot on a part three. Yeah. I do hate.

I mean I'm with you. I hate it when you get to a hole that is clearly significantly harder. A lot of times it's like a 215-yard bar three with shit everywhere. And you're thinking, like, I couldn't make bar on this whole one-off. You know, you have to give me 30 tries. I'm probably not making a bar here. And it's the number 18 handicatch. Right.

Excuse me? So that is frustrating. We've got Joe from Detroit. Joyce, before we get into the next one, I apologize. I've got to deal with some family stuff. So I got to hop. I love you guys, lots. Stay safe.

And pleasure speaking with you all. Like I said, I love you. I love you. I love you. Actually, I'm not going to say that to you while you're in bed, Frankie. I think that's just inappropriate, but it's good to see your face. I have no pants on. Oh, God, it's horrible to see you.

I have those Tommy John pants on those. See, boy. See, Lord. See, alert. Pop that top, Frankie. Don't you fucking talk to me like that. You liked it, I feel like. Joe, what's Joe got?

You going on the office today, Trim? Yes, I am, yeah. I got we were doing stool streams. Oh, yeah, that's right. Oh, play bar stool. Let's plug that a little bit for a second. Play Barstool is a app that Hank, handsome Hank, has created from his brain

in which you can actually join free to enter contest. Yep. office already. We have this fucking awesome room. And now he's figured out a way to stream it with like big cat announcing, Dave announcing, like crazy camera works. So like you can watch, if you download play Barstool, you can join these contests, you can pick who you think is going to win like the Jenga game, for example, who's going to be the last person to pick, like how many, how many blocks is it going to go up, who's going to be the last person to pick and it's going to fall down?

Like, who's going to be the winning team? And if you get them all right, you win cash. It's a really good idea. It is actually a phenomenal app. And you can watch it on the app. You can watch the live stream. It's basically a place where all those live streams are going to live. And it's like add to start following. Because like you're saying, it's just back air games that everybody plays.

And then seeing the basketball guys, girls, everyone playing them all the time and picking. It's just something you can get sucked into and you're going to enjoy it. You're playing Jenga today. Yeah, I'm playing Jenga. It's me and Ria. I mean, people, the results will be out by the time this podcast comes up. because we're playing today. But yeah, it's me and Rhea versus Billy and PFT.

So that'll be interesting. Is there any like preparation in your head going into a Jenga game or no? No. We, I mean, so like you said, Hank's had this idea for a while. So we've done test like screenings and test games where we played Jenga. And I got to tell you, I'm pretty fucking good.

I'm really good at like those sausage fingers you get in there. I'm delicate. And like, I got this woodpecker. where I just pack at a block and it comes out the other side and people marvel at it. So I don't do any preparation other than knowing I'm a good Jenga player. That's awesome.

Yeah. So that's going to be fun. One other housekeeping item I wanted to say, which we usually say in the beginning. Dionne Sanders is now our co-worker. That's crazy. Just fucking bat-shick crazy. The other day, sorry.

The other day I'm in the car with Dave and we're driving. He gets a call from America. I turned on the music and they finished their call. And he's like, oh, he's like, we're announcing Dion hire like tomorrow. And I turned to, and he looked at me to see my reaction. And I like looked at him. I was like, Dionne, who? And he just like smirked.

I was like, Dion Sanders. And he started laughing. It's like, what the fuck's going on right now? What do you mean we have Dion? He's like, yeah, he's hired. I'm like, he's going to like come in the office. Like, what do you mean? Dion Sanders is a Barstle employee.

He's going to do a podcast. Like, he's like, we're going to be flying to do like a. NFL show with Big Cat and him at like his ranch in Dallas like fucking crazy man and it's prime time dude it is it is crazy and we've talked a lot on this show about how we woke up early for the show to record it and the first thing I saw when I woke up this morning was the email that says we are hiring Dion Sanders and I I went back to sleep for a couple minutes and it felt like a dream I didn't think it was real well he's just one of the more famous athletes I feel like when I've I've I've I've seen

since not been like as big of a fan. But growing up, I was a huge Dallas Cowboys fan. And fucking Dion Sanders dude, he was the coolest dude in the league. Right. Like, it's like nine-year-old Trent cannot believe that I get to call Dion Sanders my coworker. He just can't believe that. He still is one of the coolest dudes in the world. Absolutely.

Absolutely. He is as charismatic as it gets. He's as cool as it gets. And you're right, Riggs. He's still one of the coolest dudes on the planet. And now he just works at Barstool Sports. Crazy. When you see him on video and he's talking, he's like, that's a cool fucking dude,

that guy right there. He just got it. He's got a ton of respect in the league. He's got a ton of, I mean, he's in the NFL top 100. He's always walking around doing that shit. And he's so, so involved in the NFL. And I think that his guests on his new podcast are going to be insane. I think that's going to be a must listen show.

I think he's going to come out with fire merch. Like, it's already primetime shirts with the bars with the logo on it. Oh, my God. We can buy time. That is sick. Like we, we can sell primetime merch because primetime works at Barcelona. What a world,

man. That is very cool. You guys know how I love putting the music on, like the travel series videos and stuff. I like get a hard on for that shit. Yeah, you're a little baby. Tobin kick out.

They sent me a video. So like I'm in a group chat with like their guy. And like Erica put me in to like get this video up on the blog, like the announcement video. and they picked a song that was like, I'm just like basically from YouTube. So like if you put that up on Twitter, it's just going to get like taken down

because it's got like rights and stuff. So we have a database that like we pay for songs. And like that's what me and Brendan and like we'll go through and look for fucking songs like all day long on this database. It's like APM or whatever this website. And I was like, oh, like they were like, oh, this may be like we can't use this noise, like this sound.

And I went in. I chimed in. I was like, I can probably find something a little suspenseful for you. And like, yeah, they're like, do you understand this guy? Yeah. And a bunch of people like liked it, the message. And I was like, oh, shit, the pressure's on now. And if you go watch the video, it's like some of my best work.

I like, as he's saying things, it's like the booms are happening. And then, like, he goes to, like, think and it stops. It's fucking, it's fucking intense. Dude, so I'm going to chime in because I just watched it. And as I was watching it, I was like, this is Frankie. There's no doubt in my mind. When we ended the Zoom call, I was going to be like, did you pick the music for the Dion announcement video? And I knew it was going to be a yes.

Yeah, dude, it was like that's my best work I think I've ever done. It's like the craziest shit ever. I was sitting in bed at like 1.30 in the morning just laughing, being like, all right, like this is a teaser. Because he's got the charisma and he's got that, like the, so like him speaking over a dramatic tone like that is crazy. Like I was ready to run through a wall. Yeah, I haven't watched it yet, but you are very good at that. The things you've made Tom Pashy look like the most dramatic and like the best deliverer of dramatic information about pioneers in the history of the world. God, I'm not, I can't listen to it obviously because we're on a podcast, but I'm just watching the video of Dion's announcement video.

And he is just, he's fucking Dion, dude. He's the best. Dude, if our job takes us to crazy places we get to go see Shib into Super Bowls, fucking All-Star Games, Swimpsuit model on a private. a plane the whole fucking thing i want to go not a swimsuit model plane i went on a swimsuit model plane to i made that sound weird you're not on a plane

with a bunch of supermodels to houston to the sports illustrated swimsuit event that was a pretty cool thing because like you can't say that anyway i want to be able to go watch like someone make a movie like behind the scenes i want to go see someone like score a movie like i want to see how they make the fucking music

you think there's one listener in the world that's that field of for play. I think one person is in like the fucking scoring business that like sits there and like gets the orchestras and fucking or maybe they're in it. Yes. I do. Wow. I would love to get a message from someone.

Be like, bro, I am in that world and I will invite you. Foreplay at martial sports.com email us or hit up Frankie because somebody's going to get you involved and you're such an obsessive frequentist stuff that I need to get you involved. Yeah. Okay. We've got Joe from Detroit. is there any period in the future when you will actually be able to beat Tiger Woods in a match? I read this when you sent it and it made me chuckle because I wanted to say yes immediately,

but then I thought about it a lot and I think the answer is a resounding no. Yeah, like what's Tiger going to be at his worst when he's like 75, 80 years old? So here's the math that I did like on myself. I feel like my, the best, the best golf I'll ever play is from now until for the next 20 years, I feel like. Because I already feel like I could have peaked like when I was like playing high school golf. Like I'm still like able to hit the ball kind of far

and I'm still athletic enough, like nimble enough to be able to put a swing together. I feel like until I'm like 46, 45. Then it starts like when you hit 50, your ability start to slowly deteriorate, I feel like. Your swings become slower. especially if you're not like already a scratch golfer. If you're a scratch golfer, you can play until you're 70 and still be good. That's my point about Tiger Woods. When he's seven, in my next 20 years, I'm going to be like okay, but Tiger's still going to be elite when he's 64.

Look, Gary Player can beat us right now easily. Like Gary Player goes out and shoots, it beats his age like every round. He's like 80 fucking three. And he goes out and shoots like low 70s, mid-70s all the time. We're not, we're not going to be able to do that when we're six. 60, 70. So how are we, unless, the only, the only way that the answer would be yes is if you count injuries. Like if Tiger's back all of a sudden just disappear, like, I don't even want to say that out loud, but if something happens, the Tiger can't get out of bed, then you, then I would go challenge him to a match in theory. Right.

We're playing right now. We'll them out to the course and just beat him and be like, yeah, I won the, from the gallery chat. Yeah. The bottom line is we need Tiger's body to greatly. deteriorate, which we don't want, but in this hypothetical, and we're talking 20, 30 years down the road anyway, we needed to just completely deteriorate until like Riggs said, he can't get out of bed, and then you're like, all right, let's go, Eldrick, let's get out of bed,

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so that you can enter to win the sweepstakes. New Amsterdam vodka, the official vodka of Barstool Sports. Kurt says, embrace debate. should the golf course score card pencils have erasers yes or no yes yes why don't they what's the reasoning maybe style and then i think other people think cheating oh it's like if you mark it down you marked it down yeah no but you make a mistake you like sometimes i'll like i'll forget what especially if you're on the back nine of the card and sometimes you don't put your initials there whatever and you forget which column you're in

and you just like put like seven and a four and it's supposed to be the other way around. Like you just give it a little eraser. I mean, come on. And if you shoot the round of your life, go get a new card and write it in a pen and shit and put it in a fucking, like you can always redo the card at the end

and make it look nice. Let me ask you this. Okay. Do we think there's a market for golf pencils with erasers? Like are enough people upset about this that we should start selling golf pencils with erasers? Because I have heard this brought up before, but, and I know what you're saying, like,

I don't know, I feel like people want them. We should start selling them immediately. I think that there's enough golf courses that already have pencils with erasers on them. I think a lot of the ones that don't do them probably cost. I would guess, like, scorecard or pencils with erasers are more expensive. Have to be.

But I do think a lot of people rely on the pencil when you arrive and a lot of public courses probably that, like, our fans are playing. don't have erasers. So, Trent, you might be right, that if we just start selling them with erasers, you bring your own Barsal Gough eraser pencil to the course, you don't have a fucking problem. Sorry, we're getting in the number two business. Fucking, fuck.

Dude, that's like one of the, it's got to be one of the longest running businesses in the history of time. Yeah, name the company that makes it. Oh, it's, um, I don't think I have it. Is it Bick? That was going to be my guess. Bick did be on mechanical ones, right? Yeah, and they do the pens, obviously. Yeah.

Yeah, but who's like the official yellow pencil? Who's big pencil? Who's the big pencil? It's like we act like we know. All right, so. Oh, man, I would have never. Who? Ticonderoga.

Dude, you know how long Ticonderoga's been printing money and just not saying anything? Ticcondoroga. It's the one with the green lettering on it. Like sometimes, like you find whichever way you held it, either your fingertips were on like that imprint of the logo or it was on the soft side. You know what I mean? How much of a hit has the pencil industry taken

since the invention of the internet? You would think it'd be a lot, but they still use pencils in school all the time, right? Fucking Scantrons fucking really fuck you on those. What century do you think? The pencil was invented. And be careful with centuries, because when you say, if you said 18th century, that's actually the 1700s. I never understood that.

And I makes me furious. Someone explain that to me. Because I said, my girlfriend the other day, I said it was in the 19th century. And she said, oh, this is the 1900s. And I called her stupid. But then I was trying to, she's like, well, I don't understand. Like, when was the first century? And I said, from zero to a thousand.

100, 100, zero, 100. and then 101 to 200. Right. You're right. That'd be the second. So does it technically make sense the way they do it? Yes. Right.

Exactly how I just explained it. Zero to 100 is the first. 101 to 200 is the second or 100 to 200 is the second, even though it's in the 100. So 145 is in the second. Where we get goofed up is you'll say 19th century, but then those years don't start with the number 19th. No. Right. It ends at 1899.

Makes me furious. But I get that it makes sense, but I'm still mad about it. So if I had to guess when the pencil, what century that that lead fucking pencil and wood? Yes. I'm going to say the 17th century. I'm going to say the fucking, I'm going to say the fucking 13th century they made a fucking pencil. So I would have actually said way earlier than you guys said, but you're both pretty damn close,

Trent's the closest. It was, so after the 16th century discovery of a large source of pure and solid graphite in Cumbria, the invention of the pencil soon followed in the 1560s. Wow. So 16th century? So yes. Yeah, man,

I thought for sure they figured out a way to just like some version of the pencil. Right. It's something that has ink or whatever, whatever. Like something that could be erasable. It's not like permanent. Because they've been, I mean, there have been pictures on caves for a million years, but they're not using a pencil. Those are not permanent.

They're not using lead. You got to decide when that came into the fray. And it sounds like it was the 16th century. Remember the eraser game in like middle school? Like getting in the eraser game. Like when you got a good eraser, it was nothing better. Yeah, you could get the triangle one and then you try to use it so that it would like, it would wear away in cool patterns and shit.

Yeah, but just like getting a good eraser was a good feeling. Like it had a good feel to it. It was soft. Sometimes you had a really hard one that would leave a pink residue on the page. And then some pencils actually had like that fake eraser where like no matter how many times you did. Sometimes you'd almost like put a hole through the paper. That was bad feeling. But when you had a really good eraser, like you said, you kind of wear away the fucking wax on the outside.

And an eraser is comforting. It's forgiving. It allows you to make mistakes. It says, if you make a mistake, I'm here for you and we're going to figure this thing out. Having a good eraser leads you to make less mistakes because you're so at ease with what you're doing that you're less likely to be stressed out and make mistakes. I think that's right. I used to love school supplies. I thought that shit was awesome.

Well, I was too because of the smell. The way that it all just smells is I'm a fan. I love a fresh notebook when you just had a fresh notebook and then I would start my penmanship early in the pages. Fantastic. And then you just start to deteriorate. I would date the corners in the beginning. I would date them as if it was a journal.

I would date them and I'd say class number one and I'd date it. And then I would fucking say a topic and with the two dots. And then like I would indent below that and I'd write perfect. And then you look on page like 45. and it's just me fucking drawing a bunch of dicks. Just like the worst shit of all the time. A fresh notebook is great. It's like,

it's similar to the eraser thing where it's like, anything's possible. You can do anything in this notebook. And then you realize that you start to put things in it, you're like, I'm just the same old fucking idiot. So it's actually not that cool. But every time you get a new notebook,

you're like, possibilities are endless when in fact they are, there's an end to them pretty quick. Like that journal I kept when I was young, I don't know where it is, but I wrote it in case my family family. found it after I died. Remember that?

Yeah, yeah. You've been a sick fuck. I love my mom and I love my dad. I wrote that. I'd go to bed just in case I died. They'd find that and they'd be like, oh, what a cool journal. You have been a dick-minded fuck for decades. Probably a horrifying.

One last thing when we're on this topic of like, I don't know why this says. I think we said like a would you rather. something maybe a couple seconds ago. I saw KFC come up with this quote on radio the day and I was with Dave actually doing pizza and I read it to him and I asked him his question. The question was what is the better invention? Air conditioning or the internet? And I think the fucking answer is the fucking air conditioning. And the only reason I say that is because we live in a world currently with air conditioning.

And I wouldn't be able to survive without it. Right. It becomes survival against what you like to do. Like, we're a very internet-based company, clearly. It doesn't exist without the internet right now. We're the internet right now. We don't exist. These jobs don't exist without the internet.

But, like, there are other jobs out there. The thing there isn't is a substitute for air conditioning, other than like Wang covered in ice cube. So, so in terms of our life, typically, we're very dependent on the internet. Obviously, the rest of the world is too, but we are in like a very hyper way. But like air conditioning, everybody.

I'm so pro air conditioning that I think I would reverse migrate if air conditioning didn't exist. Like I think during the summer months, I would go north, like super north though. Yeah. And then I would. because I need to be near the cold. And I would just try to chase the cold

and stay as far away from the hot as possible. Because you're right. I mean, if you couldn't, and you didn't, if you don't have AC, like you probably don't have fans and shit either, right? Like that's... Right. It's all like the cooling systems.

It's just essentially like, do you want to live in a world with the internet or do you want to live in a world where it's just the temperature outside and you can't affect it at all? Yeah. I mean, for us, it's specific that you, would you rather,

have a job or would you rather have air conditioning? Well, I think that the answer right now is harder because we live in a world with both. But if you were to say you're going to come into a world and you didn't have either of them and you had to choose, like you're going to either have this like thing that's going to cool you down during the summers or you're going to have this thing that's going to open up the world to you and it's going to be this portal and you can fucking learn anything and get jobs off it. I think you'll end up choosing the internet because you'd be like, well, I was living without this air conditioning anyway.

Like I'm just like, I'm surviving. Like a couple months ago, I told you guys on this podcast. My air conditioner broke for a weekend in the hottest weekend in New York City history, maybe. And I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. Dude, it's horrible. Being hot and sweaty and gross with no way out is, it's like you're saying, like knowing, we now live in a world where we know what air conditioning feels like. So to think about a world without it seems like a nightmare. Yeah, I'm a big, uh, I'm a big, uh, I'm a.

I'm a big, like, would you rather sit outside or what do you guys think? It's like, well, if it's at all hot, like, let's just sit inside. That's just, it's just more comfortable. You're also talking to a guy who got heat poisoning recently. So, I wouldn't be able to sleep. What did Dave say? He laughed and he's like, I think I'd give back the internet. You know him with air conditioning.

He needs to, when his AC is like not getting down to like 65 degrees in his apartment or whatever, he calls up he's like there's something wrong with this central air system, he can't sleep. Hotels. Breaking news. Breaking news, the AC in his apartment's not working right now. No way. Yeah, he talks about it. I saw like a

deep sucker quote. That is so fucking funny. That's crazy timing. Are you kidding me? Wow. Is he in his apartment? Yeah. Oh, here we go. I come back the first day the AC is broken in my apartment. I'm operating on fumes, but I'm turning fumes into fuel. Prom time,

prom time, prom time. No, he hates the no AC. I think everybody would pick AC. I think the vast majority would pick AC. Maybe the question is like what's a more important invention. That is a better question. I think that is what the question was. What is a more important question? I think the answer is AC. All right, boys, that's it. That's all we got. for today's show. The Wyndham Championship, Brooks is playing. I think Kiz has played. So there's some names out there so you can get involved and enjoy it.

And then the playoffs start. They're going up to Boston, stinks, so there's no fans. But the playoffs start, Tiger's going to probably play. There'll be a bunch of big tournaments, really, for about a month straight after that leading up to the U.S. Open. So get excited. Enjoy your weekend. Maybe get out and play a little golf yourselves. And we'll see you on Tuesday.

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