Fore Play - The Forbidden Green At Riviera

Episode Date: February 18, 2021

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Hey, 4Play listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We're moving right along on the PGA tour schedule. We are at Riviera this week. We have a very, I would say, very appealing booster this week, yet again, from the Barstville Sportsbook. We got Speed and Max Homa, both to finish in the top 30.

It's plus 400 boosted up. Speed's obviously been playing great last couple of weeks. He's got, I think, both tight. He ended up finishing top, what, six, I think at Waste Manager, top five or four. He was leading going into, you know the whole story about Spee. And then Max Homer. He's a California kid. He likes this track a lot.

Played well last week. He had a double, I think, on five that sort of derailed him. And then a couple other bogeys. But otherwise, he was right there. So Max playing well, speed playing well. Boom, pick both of them. They just got to finish the top 30. That ain't crazy.

Just got to finish the top 30. I did get into it a little bit with Matt. Max yesterday of, you know, betting in golf has now added for these guys that are on social media when they go check their mentions. Like, if you ruin somebody's lineup or you ruin somebody's bet for the week, they just ruthlessly tweet at you like, you fucking suck. Can't believe you bogeyed 17 when like you shot 17 under for the week and made $700,000. And that pot might have cost you $400,000.

You went from like second to third. And now Max is just going to get those tweets. all week and long every time he makes a bogey, which he deserves because he's very mean to our swing. So, um, so Max, we like you, but this week,

again, I hope he finished. I hope he finishes tied for 30th with like a birdie on the last hole. Say that the whole week, every time he makes a mistake, people are losing their fucking minds and tweeting mean things out. And he's the guy who's always on Twitter,

right? Like, I don't know if Spieth has logged into Twitter once, but Max Homa, he's going to see those tweets. So, you know, just finishing the top 30 max or you know just just play well and everything will work at it

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I would say white Russian is a great, a great winter drink. I would say that's a great winter drink. I would say I was on the ski slopes. I saw you were too. A hot toddy, lovely winter drink, especially when you're outside. And sometimes just like a nice IPA beer is a fantastic winter kind of like set in. Maybe you got your PJs on, you're hanging and watching TV. Throw it on an IPA and enjoy yourself.

I have an incident one time. This is like eight, probably eight, ten years ago or so I was skiing with my buddy, my buddy Nick, who Lurch knows, great guy. And we, you know, we're at Killington, where Lurch was this past weekend. And Killington's got a great opera ski scene. They usually have like a live band. I don't know if it's the same thing with COVID now. The pickle barrel is one of the best bars in America. So the whole scene up at It's just fantastic. And we ski, we ski right, like, fucking first lift to last chair. Like, we ski all day, which is hard to do because skiing on your body, like,

physically is brutal. And we're all pathetic out of shape losers. We ski so hard and, like, everybody else kind of caved at one or two. And we did me and my boy, Nick did, like, the last couple hours. So then we get back in to do the Opry ski scene. And it's, there's people everywhere. It's like a massive line to get drinks. And he's like, hey, hold this spot at the table.

I'll go get us a couple drinks. I'm like, perfect. Well, I hate Bloody Mary's. So he waits in line for like 10, 15 minutes it takes him. He gets these giant Bloody Mary's. Comes back. They got all the fucking fruit and everything. And he comes back.

And I just didn't have the heart to tell him. And so I sucked down this Bloody Mary over the course of like 30 minutes. Every sip, it got worse and worse. I fucking hated it. And to this day, I don't think I've ever told them. I just, I was like, hey, next round, me. I'm going to get the next fucking round. I'll buy the rest all the drinks all night.

Oh, dude. It was awful. just every time I took a sip, I looked the other way so he couldn't see me being like. I hate Bloody Mary's as well. I had a pretty bad experience with one. It was back when I was working at Borrellys and I became pretty friendly with a bunch of these Islanders coaches. Shout out Bernie Caselli is the skills coach for the New York Islanders. What a name.

Yeah, one of the best, one of the best guys that's, I mean, he actually, I think I've talked about him on this podcast before. He taught me how to watch hockey where he's like two guys, two teams around the ice, all this stuff. I'd be surprised if you haven't talked about him. Yeah, no, he's the best. Brent Thompson, he was, I don't know if he was ever in blue, but he played with Gretzky. So, like, really cool stories with him. Anyway, we were going to this Bruins game because a couple of the guys are from Boston,

and they invited me, actually. It was actually pretty cool to, like, just be, like, not at Borrellys or an Islander game with these guys. And I had drank the night before. It was one of my friend's birthdays, and, like, I got absolutely destroyed and woke up, and we were driving up to Boston the next morning. So that was like a 3 a.m. 4 in wake up.

So I just went straight from wherever I was to like a car to get up there. Right. And nauseous wanted to throw up the whole ride. They're like, oh, it was a one o'clock Red Soke. So I'm like, we're going to go up there. And they said we're going to go to this place right outside Fedway. We're going to get a lunch. And we're going to.

So we get to this place and they're like, oh, Frankie, you hung over? I know what to order you. And I was like, oh, fuck, like these guys. And they ordered me a massive bloody Mary. They're like, no problem. You drink this thing. You're going to feel, your hangover goes away. No problem.

I'm like, yeah, for men or whatever. Like, I was, whatever, 22 years old. I took one sip of this thing and I threw up on, like, my chest. Like, it was like at the table. Like, at the table. It was the most embarrassing moment of my life. I took one sip. I got up.

I didn't say a word. I walked to the bathroom. I'd throw up, coming down. And I just puked in the bathroom. And I come back and I sat there. I'm like, yeah, I'll have the pancakes. Like, what am I doing here? Is it the tomato juice you hate?

Yeah, it's a tomato juice. It's like that little kick of the spice, which I'm not a big fan of that taste. Because I love it with the olives and then sometimes like, at like a breakfast bar, they'll dress it up with like bacon or shrimp in there. And like, then you turn a Bloody Mary into like a meal. It's fantastic. Shout out Nate Dog, Nate, Eric Nathan at Barstles Sports is a big bloody guy. Okay.

Yeah, he loves bloodies and olive garden. Yeah. He puts like burgers inside his his, his. Bloody Mary's like whatever is coming on that stick it's like it's basically the meal I got a Bloody Mary once they put beef jerky in it and it was one of the greater experiences of my life I love a good Bloody Mary I also I also have a deep affinity for tomato juice I think tomato juice is fantastic so I'll drink a Bloody Mary anytime somebody told me tomato juice was healthy so sometimes I feel like nobody ever orders this on the plane but sometimes I'll

just get the tomato juice and just hucked that back and try to feel healthy Ginger rails an all-time airplane. Yeah, it is. I would say once every three years, I, in my head, due to a conversation like this, convince myself that I like Bloody Mary's, and I'll order one and try one, and I fucking hate it every time.

So what you guys are saying makes sense. I just don't like it. I don't know. When he drinks always a screwdriver, I feel like. I feel like you go that route pretty often. Screw driver's safe, simple. You get the pickle, you get the green olive. You get pepper.

Oh, man. You get a lot for one drink is what you get. And it's a socially acceptable drink in the morning. 100%. People like, ah, that guy's having a bloody. Like, if you're pounding back like a glass of whiskey, people like, that guy's got a fucking problem. But if you're drinking a Bloody Mary,

people are like, that guy's just having a day. He's trying to take the edge off from last night. I love a bloody Mary. That's true. Let me ask you guys this. I was thinking about this yesterday. What's a, what's a delicious dinner meal that's also? that's also not bad for you other than sushi.

Steak? Here repeat the question, please. What is a delicious, like this is a genuine question. This isn't a, we're not doing jeopardy. What is a, like, delicious, like, genuinely delicious meal for dinner that's also, like, not bad for you? Like, I feel like steak is bad for you, like all that red meat. I feel like that's bad food. Yeah.

Savim. that's good one fish yeah it really has to stay in that fish train though because like you branch off I mean I guess you can do like some like chicken salads some grid grilled chicken salad but that's not delicious I don't think um that's like you know what you do holy holy you have to when you get a grill like when you get a chicken salad or something you are consciously choosing a version of that meal that's less delicious because it's better for when you're you're getting sushi like sushi's that's the end game you're getting like the most delicious. version of that meat. Right. No, you're living. Sushi's the best. Yeah, like the Venn diagram of

healthy and delicious, there's not very many items in that middle part. You're right about steak, that it is red meat and that has all sorts of issues. But if you're looking for no carbs, then that that's kind of the way to go. Fish and meat, chicken, steak, shishimi, sushi. That's kind of the only way to go, unfortunately. My version of sushi is a joke, though. I just douse it in soy sauce. So it becomes the most unhealthy meat. of the day. I used to love those pokey bowls. I haven't had one of those things since I lived in New York, but that's the, I mean,

that's just all the sushi ingredients, just in this huge, like, kind of Chipotle bowl. When I first moved to New York, I was addicted to sushi. I'd never had sushi before I moved to New York, so that's 27 years without sushi. And then when I moved to New York, and we would record late nights, we would record foreplay at the office, the old office, me, you and Robbie Fox, we would get fucking sushi every single time to the point where I thought I was going to get mercury poisoning. But I, sushi, I've been missing out. I don't know if I didn't want to eat sushi back in Iowa because there's not, you know,

much water around the state of Iowa. Freshness is on point up there. Right. That was never the thought. I was just, I never thought about getting sushi back in Iowa. But then when I moved out here, people were like, oh, you've got to try the sushi if you've never had it. And then I just went all in on sushi for about eight months.

I heard, I heard Vancouver has like some of the best sushi on Earth. Yeah, I believe that. I want to go to Vancouver. Vancouver looks sweet. Yeah, I would say that Pacific Northwest is like really cool. There's, uh, so, I think would be a sweet drive. I've been to Alaska.

I've been to Alaska. It's pretty fucking wild. That's nuts. Happy Gilmore's 25th anniversary was yesterday. That was a pretty funny little back and forth between Adam Sandler and Christopher McDonald. But we, we, we, um, I watched happy Gilmore last night just, you know, because everyone was doing it.

And if you really pay attention to the courses they play, like the one that he plays with Barker is actually pretty unbelievable golf course. So I looked it up and it's in British Columbia. It's a crazy golf course up there. Like, I mean, the views are insane. I mean, the fog is coming down off the mountains and stuff. I mean, it's a mountainous golf course. It was awesome.

If you look it up, he plays some pretty elite courses in that movie. Some guy was messaging me yesterday from Vancouver. who's been trying to get us to go up there and do a classic or do a travel show. And he was telling me all about that. He was like, yeah, this is where Happy Gilman was filmed. And he's sending me pictures. The courses look like fake life. They look like they're out of 2K where you can just make courses however you want with the mountains and the water.

Like the golf looks fucking awesome up there. So we might have to, if the borders ever reopened and we ever get back to normal here, we might have to hit up Vancouver. A quick plug on Potter's Bay. I mean, I put together Poppy's Irons, which is a mule. in comparison to Butters Bay. So shout out Frankie and what he created because we took a spin around that course last night,

and it is absolutely incredible. So if you're not already part of that community, go join and then find Butter's Bay because that course is just, I would say, a million times better than the course I created. And that might be a collo. Getting the sun to be the right, like, just that right tint of,

obviously the twilight or, you know what I mean? That adds. No, it was. Yeah, it was a nice stroll around Butters Bay last night. I might pour myself a Paloma and take myself around there. Just close my eyes and pretend I'm in this fantasy land of golf. Pitt Meadows Golf Club in British Columbia. That's the one I'm talking about.

Okay. We've got some golf to discuss the Matt Wolf videos out on YouTube. Check it out. Trent doing the trigger move is one of the funniest things I think I've ever seen my entire life. So get involved. Go look. Go watch. The video's sick.

He, actually, I'll, I'll let you guys know what he's, he messaged me and I'll let you know what he said after next Tuesday, once our, um, match with him comes up.

Yeah. Because he was talking about something that happened in the next video. And we got a little thing going now. So that, that'll be fun. Um, he was awesome. He's,

I mean, I got a bunch of messages being like, that was the most personable. Like, that felt like my friend more than any other person that you guys have done. Like, because I feel like at some point, like Kisner's older than a lot of some of the people that we like you know that listen to the show or watch the show like this is just a guy who went to Oklahoma State like a year ago basically he's like so freaking young we talk about his um attitude being really really immature at times but that's a lot of the people that listen to the show is kids in college and coming out of college and talking like that like I mean we all do that and at times and um he really really showed to be like just one of the boys and I think you're going to see that next Tuesday also but.

but yeah, people are liking that video a lot. Yeah, I mean, in terms of immature and stuff, like, I'm 34, you catch me on like the wrong Saturday afternoon after seven transfusions. I'm way more immature than Matt Wolfe. So he's, yeah, right. He's like, he's very, he's super relatable in the sense that he's more similar, I think, especially in age of it, to most people that are following and listening than the other guys. And especially like, yeah, he's made some money, but he's so young, like he doesn't have tens of millions yet.

like he's still relatively new to being an adult, which is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, he's 21. I mean, think about what we were like when we were 21. It was madness. Certainly not as nowhere near as successful as Matthew Wolfen, but just like an immature idiot. No, coming from the world of like no money being in college or doing whatever,

and then being that young and like getting a top 20 check must be one of the coolest things of all time. And then that happens. I don't know if he plays 30 times, that happens probably five to 10 times that he got like a sizable check his first year. Like that must have been all time excited. Right. Like you think about a guy like Kisner

and we talk about Wad Wednesday all the time with him. But now he looks at his phone. He's like, okay. Yeah. And it's fine. It's nothing. But that's something we, next time we talked about,

we should ask him like what that experience is like for him. Because we know what it is on the Kisner end. But for him that first time when that change, at kids had to just be like, this is great. This is what I've been working towards. I'll never forget, like, Alex Collar and Tampa Bay Lightning. It's like top second, top two liner, Stanley Cup champ. He's like one of my good buddies from college and like first year or two after when he's in

the NHL. And he would tell us, he's like, man, it's pretty crazy because you go on the road and like they get a per diem. So they don't even really pay for that much on the road. And they're kind of grinding and they play every other day. He's like, you won't look at your bank account for three or four weeks. and then he's like, you'll just look in there after maybe, let's call it, four weeks. And he's like, and there's like, 480,000 more dollars than there was in there.

Last time you looked at your bank account. You're just like, oh, great. That man, could you fucking imagine. Dude, I remember, I forget the picture's name. There was a pitcher who went to a rival high school in mine who, this was years ago now. I cannot remember his name. But I remember he got drafted. And there was obviously like, holy shit, this guy who was from around here got drafted.

And he got a signing bonus of like, $750,000. And I remember thinking that was a billion dollars at the time. Like that guy is, he's now a billionaire. He's signed. He just, a team drafted him. I don't he, I wish I could remember his name. But he got $750,000. And I was like, well, he's set. He can just retire now. The amount of money that those guys get at that young of age is insane. Speaking of my buddy, speaking of BC, my buddy Devon Taves, and he's a friend of the show, friend of the program. He was, I used to think, like, you know, all right, this guy makes like 750 grand. Like, he's, he's, he's, still at like a normal level.

I tried to, I tried to get that into my head compared to sports. And then he went out and signed like a five year, five million dollar a year contract with Colorado Avalanche. So he's left planet earth like, like most people in professional sports. But I do remember him like on the island just being more like, conscious of his money because like if you,

especially the way that the season went last year where they had to pay that escrow tax and all that stuff. And then you got to pay your agent and then you got to pay for your house. You have hit for your car. It's like, all right, you're kind of like in the same boat as a. regular person, like kind of playing professional hockey, which was kind of stunning. I'll say on top of that, too, like, like, you know, for Devontes or others or Coulorn that have,

they didn't like sign a big contract out of the gate. So it wasn't just like a flip of their head, like all of a sudden where Matt Wolf, like if he goes out and puts the other like a top five finish, all of a sudden, he's just, it just, he made what they're going to make in a year. Like, and just it's in a Wad Wednesday. I mean, that feeling must be out of this word. cool to contain yourself and continue to play like golf must be so hard. Like I'm taking at least two weeks off.

Yeah. For a golfer, you're right. And I mean, he won like his first time. Right. So he gets like a $1.1 or $2 million check then when he has a couple other top fives. Now he's at $2 to $3 million right away. And that's before his endorsement deal. So yeah, and he's 20 fucking one.

What is he now? 22. Is he 21 still? I looked. He turns 22 in April. Yeah. What are we talking about? That's just, that's younger than I thought.

Every time we bring up Matt Wolf, I can't, I can't believe how fucking young he is. So, um, so we got another video with Matt Wolf coming out on, uh, next Tuesday and go check out the one on YouTube if you have not yet. Uh, okay. Oh, by the way, speaking of Devon Tays, we had a plan, Frankie. We had a little bit we were going to do where he was going to send me a Taze avalanche jersey and I was going to wear it on the show. But when the blues and the avalanche,

ended up in the same division when they did the alignment thing, I told them I couldn't, I couldn't do it because I play each other like fucking every other week. We had a back and forth recently about something and I was like, I don't know what it was. Maybe like when I was going to hockey, I was using like Brock's stick or something and I was like, I'm not using yours or something happened. And then because I'm like, or I said, oh, like I love these jerseys and he's like, yeah, like you want one of mine. I said, no, you're not a fucking Islander anymore.

He's like, really? Like, you wouldn't want this one? I'm like actually like the avalanche jerse is pretty sick. And then he just like Devere answered that. He's like we'll get it to you one of these days. Like oh, fuck. Now I kind of want one like a sign fucking Devon Tate's jersey. That would have made me upset because I do want one.

Yeah, I think avalanche like late 90s, uh, Joe Sackick jersey was what I wanted more than anything as a kid. But they were like 80 bucks at the time. Even in like late 90s, my parents were like no, no chance. And then eventually I got over that. So their newest jersey like that color scheme is so it's that color scheme. I think that late 90s one. It's so fucking good.

Like the lighter blue instead of the darker stuff. Yes. But anyways, we're not, none of it. We're not here to talk about the avalanche. We're not avalanche fans. Let's go blues.

Let's go Islanders. Before we get into it, I want to do a what's up, Doc, I mean, the Rangers are an absolute joke. The Islanders have carried New York, I was going to tweet this last night,

but I was too tired to fight off the minions and all these assholes. But the islanders have carried New York hockey for four straight years. If you look back at the standings, like the Rangers have one a cup. So I really haven't done much either. It's just. Well, no, but at least we're keeping it competitive for the fucking state.

I mean, Buffalo stinks. And so the Rangers have stunk for four years. Like, they've been just below the island. That long now. But, yeah, no, it's not- Four years ago, they finished last in the division. Right. I mean, we're not positive.

It's not like, no, it's bad. I almost tweeted out last night that they should be relegated. Like, they're so bad that I think their talent can't develop at this high of a level or something like that. So we should go to the HL, gain from confidence and come back. God, that makes it feel so good. It's, I mean, well, I mean, you got to be real about it. We are horrible.

Stroking myself right now. I'm stroking myself. Oh, God. I, uh, I know, it's a kid's show. You just made a, like, I'm 100% of listeners how to do his mom. I'm, um, well, I mean, you're talking about the Rangers demise. That's just because it gets from me. I hope, I mean, that's nuts.

On radio, you just got close and said what you said. Yeah, well, whatever. Um, this is a little what's up, Doc thing going on. Have you guys ever had an. itch on your leg. It's usually on your leg and you know where it is, but you just can't itch it. Like you feel it somewhere on your leg. It's almost like it's inside your leg and you it's the same spot. It's just not getting it. I want to know what that is. Do you have like eczema or something? No, it's just, it happens like once every couple whatever. And I'll just be laying a bed.

I'll be like, oh, I have an inch like behind my leg, like where like the bend is or whatever, behind my knee. And I'll go to itching. I'm like, wait a minute now. That doesn't feel like I'm, I'm, curing the itch. I'm not satisfying the itch. I don't think I've ever not been able to satisfy an inch. It's crazy. It's almost like inside or it's like you have to find a spot somewhere else

to satisfy that itch that feels there. It's the strangest feeling in the world. And I hope someone can email me or DM me what this like, what that is. I think I'm with you. I think on like maybe the thicker part of my leg, like if I'm trying to get to something and it feels like it's inside. of my skin or inside my bone and I can't get to it. I thought it was like a blood clot maybe.

I was like, what is going on? Like, this is scary. Yeah, that's serious. I didn't know what was happening. I feel it right now,

actually. You got to find a little spots. I'm once you get to press a button on your leg. All right. On the health side, I'm just wondering, I think I'm falling way out of shape. Like,

I'm not doing enough these days. Does anybody running or being active during code? I feel like I'm doing nothing. I'm just going to say, that because you're the feel like you're the most active of the group. I know, I just, I feel like you did that clan or I got to get out and move. You did that cleanse. My strain yesterday.

That's a good strain. What'd you do yesterday? 16.9. What'd you do? I'm just an active person. What do you sometimes do you wake up with like a zero body battery or whatever? You can expedite or grow your strain exponentially. Well, I did the, I mean, I played golf, but it was like, so I get, I usually.

get up there like 3 p.m. on these when I go film the rigs verse videos because I can fly the drone and film and shit. Yeah. You get up there like 3 p.m. last person off and I fly around the course and try to play as much as I can while filming. And so maybe that like, I don't know, increases the strain. But golf, we have talked about golf is significantly more strenuous on your body based upon whoop than I thought beforehand. Like it's anytime I play golf, it's, I'm in double digits for strain automatically. Yeah. Like when we were at the kingdom, uh, that day, I remember my strain was through the roof just hitting balls on the range and also a thousand balls that day also at the barso classic in atlantic city i believe it was that's when my heart rate went to

one ninety two after i was hitting balls on the range and my heart almost exploded uh so yeah golf is a golf is a serious workout especially if you're just uh banging balls on the range like that all really i'd like to i love whoop and i'll never take it off i'd just like to know how they calculate the calories because i had a roller hockey game the other night fucking busted my ass. I was like a 16 strain, but I burn like, it said I burned like 3,000 calories. That's just not possible. That can't be possible. Oh, playing hockey. I'm sure, I bet you did. I mean, I looked it up. It's like an average massive workouts, what, like 600 to maybe like 900 calories burned in like one crazy work, like crazy town workout.

Are you looking at, were you looking at calories burned throughout the day or just during your roller hockey game? It was like throughout the day. It was like throughout the day. day. Are 3,000 calories burned in a day an astronomically high number? Well, I had 3,500 yesterday. That's what I mean. I think they're normalizing ridiculous numbers. Isn't that a crazy number? I don't, I think it's different for every person. Like, obviously, I'm going to burn way more calories than you will every day. Just like being my person. Right. Because you're just a giant. Yeah, maybe I'm off on that. I mean, I'm not a fitness guru. No one's ever said that. Oh, wait. No, no. I'm not. I almost did a gym. Jake Bass where I just started.

Oh, you almost. Oh, God. I may have done a Jake Bass when I looked into it. So. No, I think that's right, Frankie. I'm looking at, I'm seeing like $2,400, $2,300. And then if you put a fucking hockey workout on that, that's going to add around another thousand.

So I wouldn't be surprised. All right. All right. All right. So whoops on the fucking right on the tracks. Boom. All that to get to the truth, which is that whoops has been great all along. So job.

Okay. We have the Genesis Invitational Benefitting Tiger Woods Foundation, Riviera. Riviera is probably the best golf course in a lot of people's minds. I've never been there. That they play on tour all year. It's like it kind of satisfies a little bit of everything. It's tough. So it keeps scores for the average viewer in sort of that sweet spot where they like it.

I think usually like low, low double digits gets it done. at Riviera so you don't see like 25 under. It's from an architectural standpoint, like the nerd golf crew loves Riviera. And then I would say from the very average window shopper type viewer, it's also got really interesting holes. The 10th hole always delivers with it's only like 285 yards. You see guys hit three woods at it, drivers at it. And you can watch guys fucking go back and forth, back and forth.

trying to get it on that green on the 10th green. So it's got a little of everything. It's beautiful. The first tee, stand right by that clubhouse where Tiger Woods hit his first shot ever in professional golf. So it's got a lot to it. Riviera is really sweet.

Daniel Berger, who won this past weekend at Pebble withdrew from the tournament. So that actually makes back-to-back weeks where we have winners within the following week said, nope, because DJ withdrew from Pebble after winning over in Saudi. And Daniel Berger wins at Pebble and just says, nope, not going to play Riviera. They have a ton coming up.

So it makes sense. At this point, if you've already won a tournament like Daniel Burger just did, you're pretty much trying to peak for the Masters. I mean, the Masters is in less than two months, which is outrageous. It's in like six, seven weeks. So you really need to get ready for the Florida swing. They've got a couple of WGCs coming up. They got the WGC next week, which if you're a Dana Burger type figure,

now you get in there. You're guaranteed to make a bunch of money. And then you hit the Florida swing. Bay Hills is a big tournament. Obviously, the players championships are big tournament. So they got a lot to get ready for. so I'm not surprised that he withdrew. You know what's another great thing about the PGA Tour 2K21?

There's a lot of good things about it. But you can play these courses. Like Frankie and I played Riviera the other day. We were playing alternate shot against Stoley's when we were streaming. So, yeah, I mean, I don't think any of us have ever played Riviera. But if you want to see what the layout looks like and you want to see what these guys are going to be playing on for these next four days, you can just go play it on PJ221. And it's basically the fucking golf course.

That's part of 2K. That's part of 2K is the courses by far. Yeah. They're definitely going to improve the physics, which the physics are actually sick. I shouldn't say that. Like maybe the graphics of the swing, the models, the way that they attack the ball,

all that stuff. I think that's something that they're attacking for the next iteration of the game, especially with the new gen consoles coming out. But I will say they've nailed the golf courses. It's even whatever graphics you want to talk about, blah, blah, blah, the actual like undulations of the course.

the way the ball rolls on it, the way that they've gotten, it's so perfect that if you play the Riviera, whatever happens on whole one in real life, like where there's a runoff, where there's a little bit of a mound, where you can put it, like, if you belong to a country club and make your own course or whatever, and you, you can legitimately have it exactly the way you want. It's crazy. That, that's, that engine that's in there is pretty fucking phenomenal that that's just available to everyone.

You'd think that'd be thousands of dollars and some crazy, you know, like these fucking crazy people that play these simulations all the time. Yeah. You walk in their room and they have a fucking airplane simulator and they're like man cave and they're pressing a billion buttons because they never got to become an air, like a pilot and they do it in their fucking bedroom. That is what I feel when I'm building like a golf course. I feel like that. Like I want to put on a golf architect outfit in my hard hat.

I want to bring my lunch pal into my room. It's crazy. You get that, you get that simulation feeling. One, I've never walked into anybody's house where they've had a full-blown flight simulator in there, but maybe that's. And then, too, I agree on the course bill. Like last night when we were playing alternate shot, I forgot that I think the sixth hole has the bunker in the middle of the green and like the courses are just spot

off. And I'm actually curious, what do you guys feel about the six hole in the bunker just like dead in the middle of the green? Do we like that? Do we think it's kind of stupid and gimmicky? Like, what are your thoughts? I like it. But I like it because it's a signature one-off basically to Riviera.

Like I don't think it should be a consistent style template of hole across the world. But the fact that Riviera's got one and they always have, I like it. So what if we're playing a competitive match and it's just us? And obviously we're not good. We're going to miss left or right to this bunker potentially. Like I wonder what the course policy is on chipping on the screen. Like do you have to just put around it and becomes a mini puddle? Or do you actually get to take a divot out of the green?

and they just repair it. I can't think that you get to take it different. So maybe the local rule is you move it around to give yourself a putt. I don't know. Dude, it just happened to us the other day when we were playing. I left you right side of the green. Penn was on the left.

And obviously it's a video game. Yeah, I was like, whatever you want. Well, the game. opted to put it. But in the game,

you can chip. The game gave me as a default, the chip, which I found to be interesting. Like, obviously it knows, like, the game is just a video game.

So it knows to put, when you're on a putting surface, it gives you a putter. For it to give me the wedge I found to be pretty interesting, almost as if on that one hole they wrote into the code, like if you're on this side of the bunker, you actually can use a wedge. Like, maybe I'm thinking too deep into it, but I think that it's okay that I know.

Pretty simple. If the line goes through rough, like even if you're on the edge of the green and the line goes, the putting line goes through rough or it goes through a bunker, it just gives you a wedge to get over it. I would be curious if statistically the average amateur golfer, aka this crew on this show, would even be make a lower score chipping it.

No, chance. It's a good point. Dude, I put it in the game. I went around it. You're just trying to three putt, right? You're trying to put it around it, you know, and then put it. It's actually kind of crowned on the top so you can kind of bring it around.

I would like to know what the local rule is, though, at Rivier. Is it like, no, no, no, like, I mean, you can't chip on these things. Like, you just have to put once you're on the green or what the policy is. I bet there's not a local rule. I bet like, so Riviera, you probably, almost everyone takes caddies. Yeah. And the caddy probably is usually like put it up here, dude. Put it.

Trust me, put it here. Unless they've got a stick. Like, if you're a scratch or better and you're like, yeah, I can nip one off this close. Then there may be. but I bet that rarely happens. I mean, Gary Woodland walks out there and all of a sudden he can nip it right around that fucking bunker, no problem.

JT had an incredible nip there last year or something like that where it just like... He did it at Riviera? Yeah, I think even if I was a scratch or like got down to that level, I feel like that's another level of having the confidence to be a guest at Riviera and be like, no, give me my 60 degree.

It's like, oh my God. I mean, especially the way I take divets. I mean, I could clear out the whole top side of the green. Because like how many strokes in your scorecard is worth it to not have taken a giant chunk out of the Riviera score? Pick it up. I lost the hole. Like I'm out of it. Yeah, like five strokes.

Like, you know, like I would go from, I would happily go from 77 to 82 to not walk off that property being like, dude, I took a fucking five inch divot out of the six of three. Right. And chunked it and rolled it into the bunker and then just like proceeded to throw sand up on the green until I just picked it up for an. Right, it's not going to end well. It's not going to be a heroic story. No, no. It's going to be an embarrassing story. You didn't hole it making a divot that side.

So, like, you just, you got a nightmare on your hand. Yeah. This is a good opportunity for me to say, I've never taken a divot. So I would just go, I would attack this thing. That's not true. You took a divot last night with Matt Wolfe. You took a little bit of a knee move. Would you guys ever pull that move out on the real golf course?

What's this? I fucking hitch. Well, if you went to the range and you discerned, that it works for you, then I absolutely would. But I wouldn't just be like, you know what? On the fucking sixth hole here with the seven iron in my hands,

I'm gonna go for it. You know what part of the swing? So I was actually telling Lurch system, we're going back to the video. You can go on the YouTube page. You can subscribe. You can watch it. But when we were trying to emulate his swing,

I don't think I ever once noticed how much he really turns his eyes, chest, shoulders. It's more of that. movement he does as opposed to we were so locked in on his knees like i was like all right which knee has to go down which knee has to be staged straight or move out like if i would have just been like oh he kind of just turns his chest to the to the um target like our knees would do the rest like it would be very more a lot more natural like if you really watch him he really just looks at it and looks down it's kind of crazy how easy it is and we kind of made it impossible we were doing like

at least i was we're doing like goalie moves like you know like an ice hockey goalie like dropping down in their knees like we weren't turned turning our shoulders to the target. It was like, I'm just pretending like I'm falling straight down with my right side of my body, and then I'm going to stand up and try to hit it. And I hadn't, I mean, I was the worst out of everybody. It's a, it's very much in line with all the Gankus stuff, where it's like at impact your hips, shoulders, and eyes should be, have already,

like, rotated past the ball. And like, emulating that impact position before you even start your swing is fucking crazy town. And it was like, Gank is getting mad at me where he's like, no, no, why, like, at impact, how come your eyes and your chest are just like still looking at the ball? I'm like, well, because I've been doing it for 30 fucking four years that way. Like, what are you? I'm trying here, man.

I got hips. I got, there's only so many parts of that. So him doing that your right lurch and that I, we always just focused on like collapse the left knee and it'll be, it'll be like funny and interest or any. And then like, no, it's his whole fucking thing moves. And then like trying to get back to the ball and have everything be in the right spot without of falling over. It's not easy if you've moved your eyes

and your whole like equilibrium. So there's a lot into it. But he, he flushes the ball. And a couple of us flushed, like hit some really flush shots doing it, which was very surprised. Trying to do his helicopter swing, I thought helped me the most. Like the hitch in the beginning to me, like where he kind of just brings it up straight as opposed to back.

When I tried to do that mentally and physically, obviously it wasn't the way he does it, but my version of it was bringing it. a lot more straight back and up than I usually do. I always wonder if you did the helicopter swing rigs, how your swing would be fixed, like if you did that every single time. You just brought it straight up, turned it, and tacked it.

Like, you just wouldn't have that flat swing. Yeah, a lot of people were like, like on the one that I, like my attempts, and it felt like I did that. They're like, no, that you just brought it back like more normally. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. It probably felt super exaggerated, but you were just. I felt like I was bringing it out like the other way.

Yeah. But yeah, that's those drills. Like the feel versus real thing in golf is one of the more bizarre yet always true sensations in the world where it's like you feel like you are bringing it. And I'll, you know, like with drills that I'll try to do. And I will say, I don't think any of us are disciplined enough to actually do drills. Like I said, I've never done drill in my life. I'll do one one swing on the range.

Be like, I'm just going to like try to implement that now. I don't do drills. I don't have the patience for it. But, you know, I'll feel like I'm bringing the club way outside. And then you look at yourself on video and you're still just way inside. So it's like, it's very frustrating. Very frustrating. 100%.

Yeah. My swing is the same. I, I'm 100% feel. Like if I'm hooking the ball, I just try to hold my hands off longer. Like it, but it's pretty much all the same thing. It's, I don't change a damn thing. No. But you're, I mean, you hit the ball well.

So it's, yeah. Yeah. What was that sad? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just stuck. Like, yeah, I hit my irons well, but like I don't hit my drive like predominantly that well. I don't really, obviously don't putt that well.

I hit my wedges like okay. And it just, I'm just here. And like to do drills, like, yeah, you improve. And I'm just, I haven't really taken a huge step forward here in a long time. You hit your irons well, but it's a, it's a scary time. It's violent. Yeah. Like Wolf was like, wow, you really hit down on the ball.

I don't know how you keep that consistent or even slightly consistent. That's, I, dude, I don't know. Like, how do you keep consistently, like, barely hitting the grass? I know, but, but that came from years of, yeah, like, I guess. This came from literally, I used to do what you did. And then somebody was like, no, the idea of golf is you hit down on the ball and it goes up. And I was like, well, I'll just hit, like, way down on this thing. And then they started just ripping out of the gates.

And it was the first time that I felt like I had control on the ball when I hit down and my hands were like forwarded in impact. I could start to feel where I thought the ball was going to go. Like even if I didn't see it, I got a sense based on how my hands felt through the swing that like, oh, no, I tugged that one left or I pushed it right or like that was a good one. Before that, like when I was just brushing it, I could never really tell where it was going to go. like I would always have to see it. There's such a difference between, like when Rory McElroy is on like a Florida golf course or something, something that's nice and soft where they take those huge divvits

and he just nips it perfectly right into the grass. And that fucking divot, usually at Augusta we see it, the divot goes like takes up the whole screen of the sky and just lightly fucking falls like a snowflake. When you do it, it's like a fucking asteroid hit the ground. at that that side angle and pieces of the of the earth fucking up it's like it's like i mean i hear you but like when you start the great or the start your like point with rory mackerel there's such a difference with roy mackroy it's like yeah i mean what are you going to say here like his body

type his wealth his skulls his lifestyle like yeah everything that he does in his day is just a million times different than me but yeah certainly when it comes down to golf i don't know if there could be two more polar opposite when we were that when we first around I did the tailor-made shoot, and we got to our hole, and we were pretty far out. We're like, all right, let's hit some irons. And the guy was like, yeah, go ahead, do whatever you want. And he watched, like, three of lurched swings. And he's like, you know, maybe not so many swings.

Yeah. Maybe don't dig a hole in the middle of our fairway. Well, we were interested to know if we should be hitting them like where you're at a range, which I don't ever have to deal with because I don't take that many divets at the range. So I don't do the hole? Like, do you take it, like, behind? Do you go to the side? Do you want to go, like, all in a uniform at the range?

that because you actually said is it easier for them to just replace this one box of turf as opposed to all over you were i mean you took out a massive amount of earth there on that hole and the guy's like well he's like why don't we spread that around a little bit so that at least like it looks like divids like we used to play golf like separately but now you know or you play your own ball but now obviously with the four man scrambles and some of these things that we're doing all together i feel like you have even a better sense of how much ground i removed because sometimes after I hit a ball, you'll be like, dude, it didn't even seem like you hit that that well,

but like the ball went in a great spot. And the earth just exploded. Like the particles went everywhere. And so, yeah, I mean, I'm not a, I mean, I definitely get like the golf course joke when I play. Like, oh, you'll get an assessment for that one. Because, like, I just removed so much damn ground. You take just, yeah, they are, they're violent.

They're not pretty. They're just violent. It's like, Roy's like, like, and it's beautiful. Yours is like... I'm comparing me to Rory. Like, I mean, that's what hell what we do?

I swear, I think he, it's a tie for me between him and Tiger Woods on who takes the best divvets. Like the most satisfying divvets. Those wedge divvets are so... Oh, they're so satisfying.

The noise sounds how perfect they are. They nip just like, this is like an eye glass, but just like the perfect amount. And it's thin like that too. It's just like, and then they just get that beautiful, one hot stop.

You couldn't do it if you had a steak knife and you cut it. Like you couldn't do it better. They somehow get perfectly uniform from back to front. It's perfect. And then they'll do the slow-mo where they show it just knifeing through like butter. It makes me want to fucking pull my dick out. Just do it every time. They do it perfectly every time.

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Yeah, this is a broken record here. Yeah, I'm getting back in a shape, you motherfuckers. All right? I'm fucking doing it. I swear to God, and I think Lurch, you're doing it too. I'm putting you now in there. We just got to do it, dude. I'm talking to Lurch right out.

We just got to do it, man. All right, let's hold ourselves accountable. We'll start a little text between the two of us and we'll, like, we'll try to do something every day. All right. I got this fucking bike sitting in my room. I got to get on this thing. That's a good idea. We'll think through this, but I'm saying if you don't do something every day, you owe the other person.

Okay. We'll think of something. Or like to compound not doing anything, the other person has to throw down a whole bag of Swedish fish. So let's you. Are you in an apartment or anybody lives below you or anything? No, why? Okay, good. Well, if you had a bike, you can't get a bike.

No, I mean, I can't. I can't. I mean, you're an active person. Like, you're doing things, but I just, I think maybe our diets are really the problem. He just eats too much. Lurch eats too much. I do.

I like to eat. But I will say, like, I just had that breakfast that I was telling Frankie about, maybe on the stream last night, three hard-boiled eggs or soft boil, fuck those things back with a coffee. I feel like that's a pretty healthy breakfast. My buddies still talk about when you just casually mentioned that you, on a typical bagel day at your old job,

that you'd be like, yeah, I'd try to keep. keep it to two, but sometimes I'd have like three or four or five bagels. And they're just like, no one on earth eats three or four and five bagels. Dude, my brother and I do. We get like a whatever, a baker's dot, you get like 13. And we'd have my brother and I would sit there and like, you know, you got, you got like a Sunday morning show on, CB or whatever.

And you're having coffee and a bagel with cream cheese. And like one goes down like you just looked at it differently. And then, you know, the others just kind of add up. And then you're talking about like a fourth bagel where you're like, should we split this one. It's like, sure, you know, and then you got all that everything, like the, like the everything, everything, you know, ingredients that they put on the bagel. You got that at the bottom of the bag. So then you put the cream cheese on and then drizzle those little everything particles all over the cream cheese. And then you got that double everything. I mean,

then we're celebrating. Then we're taking it into noon. I will say when I get around my male family members, like when I'm home, it's, it's fucking over. Like when I'm around my dad and my brother, it is, it's, you want to split this? You want to split that? And you went. up eating an entire pie or you end up eating an entire cake or all of the dessert it's always you want to split this and that's like gigantic portion we're like yeah let's do it you want to split two pizzas it's like well okay now we're just fucking eating a pizza I got what are we doing so right like well yeah we'll order three pizzas for you know three people and we'll just kid like we'll eat dinner and then a couple hours later we'll all be in the kitchen like heating up pieces of pizza it's like Jesus Christ you want to see

Trent light up you go to a restaurant with him and and you find, you know, like a nachos or something on the appetizer list. And you're asking, like, you want these nachos? And he goes, yeah, you know what? I do. That, yeah, I do is like when he's back with the boys being like, let's go. Let's order that. Let's take that down.

And you're like, oh, you want the case to too? He goes, yeah, you know what? I do want the case. So it's a really good feeling. I'm never going to say no to a bunch of appetizers coming to our table. Yeah. Never. Speaking of fit, I actually feel like my, my face is as thin as it's been.

I don't know why, maybe because we're doing this early or something's going on. but I actually think I could see my chin. You haven't had a bunch of salt today? Yeah, no, salt is my killer. Yeah, salt hurts you. There was a, credit to me, there was a screenshot going around from your. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, that's a bad.

And I saw that too. I didn't retweet. To be honest, so I really think that that's more of my awkward stance. I mean, like, I think even if I was as thin as possible, it would just have that weird curve. but it was yeah it was because i was like bending backwards it wasn't like it was weird i looked like a fucking broken swan or something you know i i agree i didn't think it was particularly fair and i didn't think all the context was was present so i thought retweeting it while it would do numbers i didn't think it was fair to you yeah i saw that tweet that guy that guy kept hitting me

every five seconds i'm sure he'll keep hitting me tomorrow right you riggs is right where i don't think it was that damning, but you are now living in a post fat-faced Frankie world where any... It was a damning photo. It was damning. It was a bad visual. I just genuinely think with like the tight pants I had on and the way

my fucking thing was, I was pointing back at the sky. And the way Brendan was taking it, it's like, well, yeah, I looked like I had two pieces of my body disconnect and one of them being a fat upper torso. That's what I'm saying. You're no, you no longer have the benefit of the doubt of a skinny guy.

People are like, oh, there he is. There's the fact. Nothing about that photo was skinny. Yeah, I did, you know, I stopped and I examined it. And I thought for a while on whether I should kind of retweet it or not. And at the end of the day, like I said, I didn't think it was, if pre-fat face, Frankie, it would never have gotten a retweet for me. So I didn't think post-fat face, Frankie, that, you know, we should be condemning you to horrible,

horrible visuals all the time. Horrible. And celebrating them, so I didn't reach me. I appreciate that, but at this point, at this point, like, who cares for me? Like, it's, like, I've had so many bad pictures out there at this point.

Like, I mean, the photo of us at the Genesis, we're in the cutout at 18, like, the fact that you guys let me have that facial hairs is pretty stunning. And I know you probably during the time where, like, no, you got a shave that. You look ridiculous. But you need

to strap me down, slap me in the face and tell me, like, look at what you look like. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you liked that facial hair. Like, yeah, just like a person that drinks and has to go to a fucking, like, alcoholics and not always always drinking. You got to fucking shoot me into a room, man. I got a, I need, I needed help. You needed a facial hair intervention? I needed help. Yeah, like, obviously I liked it. That's why I had it. And I will come out and say that I still think it looked pretty good. Oh, I didn't think it looked that bad. Oh, man. It's, it's. it's a stunning, stunning visual to see that that's what I was, it was dark.

It was just, the Genesis cutout is very funny, but I think the funniest version of that was the Kevin Kisner Forman scramble. When you went full Bubba Watson, that was the visor in the outfit and you had the facial hair, you just looked, you look like a different person. My facial hair that day was, you were different. For some reason, my facial hair that day, my mustache and the little patch underneath was fluffy and it really did actually look like a mustache. And that photo with the Bubba Watson outfit on, that's something that I'll never, I'll never be able to not see. Yeah, I think like even your hair's

fluffy in that picture a little bit. Weird. Yeah. So not you at all. I don't know. Did you know how those Genesis cutouts came to be or is that just something that happened? I'm, I'm going to guess one of our boys who works at the TGR, Foundation, who's played in a couple of Barstville classics, become a buddy of mine. I didn't hear anything about it, but he, I think, has a strong hand in this tournament and in the Albany tournament in the Bahamas.

So I would guess that he had a big, you know, role in doing that. I appreciate. Where are, we're on like the 18th T? Is that right? 18th Green, I think, right? Or 18th T? I thought it was 18 green, but I was, I'm not sure. They're funny cutouts. Lurch actually looks like a normal human being in his he's got the bucket hat on it's actually a nice appealing photo i look normal size i mean you can't like make unless they got a larger cut out and just extended that would have been funny

they just put me on the top of the tree and just put it all the way down that would have been pretty funny but they should have just they should have just picked a tree and just wrote lurch on it you know max home actually commented on that uh my photo he was like how the hell in honor of uh Jimmore. He's like, how the hell am I supposed to puff with that going on? Just fucking, just crudely painted a lurch on it. Just like in the background somewhere. It's me, it's Frankie, and Reg, we all look great. And so just the guy is like, hell. Ooh, that would be.

But I'm glad that it's a normal picture because you do, like, you look just extremely happy in your picture. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, whereas I'm on a golf course. I think I was cadding for the Aaron Hillboys at. uh, Barstool Classic in Chicago and I had the whole caddy garb on and, um, you were happy that day. I remember that. Well, I mean, whatever. It's a good day. You know, what's what's, what's?

Am I like, like, upset? No. No, no, no. I just, like, you were just into being their caddy. I just remember being like, like, it was one of those days. I was like, I just can't handle Lurch today. Look at him. He's like fucking smiling and shit.

Like, you were just really. Yeah, you were like just super positive. Like, hey, boys. Like, all right. Like, let me just go fucking. I will say, I think catting's like a lot of, like, you're just losing for somebody else. You're kind of trying to think through the course.

I think caddying is actually a ton of fun. And I've never really caddy before, but that was a great day. Just like shooting flags, talking about numbers, hoping they hit it there. You still love, you still love getting a good loop, like a good crew out there with cadding. And like you're on their team. And you finally make a good read or something or a good call. And they all fucking go crazy. They give you a cigar or something.

I was like 16 years old. They'd be giving me cigars. And it was like, that was a lot, a lot of fun on the, golf course until you got the guy like Trent's still laughing at the tree thing. But unless you get the judge and then everything goes down downhill there. Getting the country clubs like that is such an interesting thing though because you could tell them like the line is this or that. And then you're really, you might miss it a little bit, but you're just hoping that they

pull or push it online and that they make it and then they get excited. Like there nobody's actually like hitting it to where you want them to hit it. So it's a very funny dynamic when they get all. excited about that. Rory McElroy. Roy McRoy has been elected as the first player, not born in the United States to be elected to the PGA Tour Policy Board. There's a crew of like 16 and they go through and discuss different policies and issues on the tour. And then they have like a chairman who ultimately presents and makes calls. And then there's like a four player, I believe player advisory council of like these guys that have been, you know, the top dogs in terms of player advisory who essentially take everything that's been discussed and either bring it to the tour or kind of come up with the policy that they genuinely want.

Our good friend Kevin Kisner is one of those four. And Roy McElroy will now join the advisory council. And then he will after his term, he joins, I think you do a three year. term on the policy board with these other guys. So he's essentially going to become, which I think everybody probably figured inevitable, you know, one of the key voices for the PGA tour behind the scenes that actually makes policy and weighs in all these things. He's Roy McRoy. He's got a great head on his shoulders. He seems to be well grounded. He seems to be well thought out when he goes through stuff. So I think this is kind of a no-brainer.

and I don't know that it will really affect us much. No, he's the guy I would trust, like elect him to the highest possible golf governing body office. Like, he's just a guy who understands what's going on, what should be done. I don't, like, I don't think no one's going to not trust Roy with a decision regarding golf ever. So I think having him make any sort of decision in that way

is a positive thing for the sport. Right. He talked about, like, he's like, I'm probably going to get in trouble for this, but this is just a mistake. mistake in terms of, you know, the distance conversation, like just the way he went about that and the words he chose. I just, yeah, he's fantastic. And I think he's got the respect of everybody, whether you're on the inside or an employer at this time. I think he's got the full respect

of everybody. Yeah. And then the policy board of the four, I believe right now is Charlie Hoffman, Jordan, Speath, James Hahn, and Kevin Kisner. And then Rory will, of course, replace Spieth next year, and then that cycle just keeps going on. So good for Rory, kind of a no-brainer. Probably Hoffman and Kisner on the same board. I feel like not a lot of stuff's getting done there. I was thinking about that too. Like, I feel like Roy McElroy would be in those meetings,

quoting Shakespeare or, you know, just glowingly talking about the sport. And then Kevin Kisner just spitting into a dip cup, like, yeah. Yeah, that sounds good to me too. Those are two very different people. Very different from very different backgrounds. Yes. Okay, from the gallery, for play at barcialsports.com, you can submit from the gallery requests. First one's from Ronan, who says, what American tour pro could you win a Ryder Cup match with?

I mean. So the person essentially has to be able to beat the other two guys. by himself. Yeah, it's a good question of like obviously alternate shot we're out. That clearly wouldn't work. But in the, if you played best ball, like I would even extend it to A, like, who's the player? We can answer that question. And then B, like, do you think you would genuinely factor in at any moment? I would say I would take DJ and I would not factor in once unless I made a lucky put. I would say, I mean, DJ is the number one right player. I would say, I mean, DJ is the number one rank player in the world so it's hard not to take him. I think DJ's the obvious answer. So I would

take DJ. I think if he just gets his A game going, he can just probably beat anyone. But, and I do think, like, Lurch, I think you would factor in. Like, I think that there's going to be. I appreciate that. Before you go any further, I really appreciate that comment. But like, at the Rider Cup, you know, there's got to be part threes that are in the 150 to 210 range that, like, you, you just like in scramble is you just hit it pretty close a decent amount of the time. So like if you're, you know, you're going to,

you're going to hit it decently close and have a big pot for Bert. I would love, I mean, it would be, I mean, that's the coolest thing I ever thought through in my brain was what you just shared right there. It was like that opportunity. But yeah, I mean, I would say that I would factor in on,

like if there was a bet, I would say 0.5 holes. Do you think it's any higher than that? I guess. Like, they actually took my score. I think it's 0.5. Right. If they defined it as you have to have the lower score on the team, like that gets a little dicey. But yeah, probably 0.5, I would guess.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so if you were working with DJ, I mean, based on what we just saw working with him quickly at Taylormate and the way the ball comes off his club base, I think there's no shot in hell that I factor in this world at all. But if I did, it would be wildly cool. you take DJ, how many holes do you think you'd factor? Do you think you would? Again, I'd be the exact same as you. Yeah, exactly. 0.5, like you say, and if I really have a great hole and DJ fucking somehow viciously lips out

and then I make like a 15 footer on the one hole where I hit it to 15 feet, then I factor in. Yeah, I think that's well said. The hope is just to make a birdie, right? Like if you make a birdie, he's not going to birdie every single hole. He's not shooting a fucking 50. eight out there. Like at the end of the day, if you can make a bird, you may catch him on a fucking hole that he makes a par. And you just win the hole for the team. So I think if you

just kind of have a good day, there's a chance that you could maybe even contribute twice. Who knows? A couple par three is par five. What if he puts in the rough? You strike a drive right down the middle. You like in front of the green and two. You chip one real close. You tap in for a birdie. I mean, that's not our game. We're fucking amateur losers, but that could happen. It's happened a bunch of times to us. Maybe DJ hits it into the tree, punches out makes a five come on you can fucking contribute once in a while i did not think you were going to be the voice of positivity well i i just think at the at the end of the day those are your chances to do it it's not like you have to fucking go out there and make and make a hole in one like you can still

contribute by playing a regular like a regular hole of golf you hit an iron you make a putt it's not you don't you don't need to access so yeah you might make eight birdies so then you only have have, you know, 10 holes where you got a chance to even take your own score. Like it dwindles down pretty good. I think when you're doing an over under, though, you have to take the into account. You're going to have 10 chances to fucking do it. It's like how many holes have you played in your life? How many birdies do you have?

Like you don't make a dirty every 10 holes. Yeah, I know. So maybe it is a half. But I just think it's, no, it's a good conversation because it depends on how much confidence you have going in of your own game. I don't think you think about his is my point. You can play decently. DJ doesn't even come into question.

I would say, I would say like DJ, P. Reed's probably in consideration just because how good he's been. I was going to say Patrick Reed. I know I wouldn't contribute, so that wouldn't matter. But I would hope that I would play with Patrick Green and then I would eventually get thrown under the bus by Justine Reed. And then I'd become part of that storyline. Like I obviously wouldn't contribute.

And she'd be like, well, this guy fucking sucks. I got my guy P. Reed, my husband played with this idiot and he can't play and that's why we lost. I just would want to play with Patrick Reed in hopes that I would get sucked into the Reed family vortex. Dude, we were on the stream the other night and Patrick Reed put up a picture of him building a snowman with his children. And Trent said something so funny. I just on the top of his head. He was like, oh, Patrick Reed just put up a picture of him building a snowman. And Trent's like, oh, what was the caption?

Trying to keep these off the golf course. And I thought that was so funny. I don't know what. That was a very funny thing to think that that's what he would caption. Well, I knew he wouldn't catch him. Right. He would never, like, Patrick Creed's social media is never, it's never, like, light and fun and, like, trying to, like, make stupid jokes. It was definitely something like, this is the first time we'd been out.

I don't remember what it was. But, yeah. Yeah, his social media is not a place for, like, stupid dad golf humor. No, that's a Max Homa, uh, um, yeah, caption. Yes. Riggs, do you point, though, earlier before we move, if we did play alternate shot, say with DJ, on what hole do you lose against a professional team?

Like, do you lose the first 10 holes because you just are inadequate? No, because alternate shot, alternate shot is tough enough that, like, I don't, like, the other team isn't going to go crazy low. And also, like, we all know, alternate shot, I think, is actually more our style game in terms of when you're playing with the pro where we all know that on it any given hole it takes one great shot. Like if you have one great shot, you're usually totally fine. Like you can hit a horrible drive. Then you hit just an awesome iron and you're back. Or you hit like a slap dick drive. Then you hit like a slap dick second shot.

But you hit a sick wedge and like you're just back and you're totally fine in the hole. So I think that when you factor in that the player now DJ in this case is the best player in the world. and like 50% of the time he's just hitting awesome shots, I think you'd be in better shape. You just have to be able to like, you have to be able to not hit horrific shots. Like if you could just get your drive out there and, you know, like DJ figured out.

And if you can just, if he roasts a drive, like think about where you're going to be hitting your second shots from. If DJs, like we can hit. I hear you, but like the pro is going to be hitting like a similar shot. He might be 20 yards back. But like you're still facing like if it's, Mullenary and Fleetwood. Like, you know, you still got Fleetwood coming in from 20 yards behind you.

So I think, like, if you made it to the 14th hole, that would be astonished. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not, I'm not saying you're going to win. You're definitely going to lose. But I don't know that you would lose every hole. I don't think you're going to lose, like, the first 10 holes. I think, like, think about that on the holes where DJ T's off, like, you're basically hitting a wedge. You're a short iron in.

And then even if you miss the green, you hit some shit shot, like DJ is probably going to chip it really close. And the other team then has to make Burton. Like so, you know, it's a, it's, I don't think you'd get dust. It's tight, it's dicey in UTF, right? Like, especially have you done it the way, like, you come to a 230 yard par three where DJ's hitting like five iron or something to like middle of the green and you're standing there with like a three wood in your hands being like, okay. This is in play.

That'd be great. So that's where it gets really dicey. Yeah. I think it'd be interesting. I don't think anybody, I don't think you make it past the 13th pole. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I think around there, I think 13 would be around where the betting line would be. It would be interesting.

You'd be a lot of fun if we could somehow get four pros to go out there with us, and we all do alternate shot, like two groups, just to see which pairing could somehow get it together the best. Yeah. And you'd almost have to flight it where, like, Trent got the best pro based off of world ranking. And then, like, I got the next one. And, like, we stick lurch with fucking whatever. Yeah, I agree.

It'd be interesting. Be interesting. Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. I really thought of Zach Johnson trip was coming there. I was ready. Yeah. ZJ. It didn't happen.

I was going to say Webb Simpson because we always talk about him as just, like, a bag of milk. But he's actually a pretty fucking number. Um, he's like top 10 in the world right now. I know, I was going to say, that joke doesn't work anymore. No, he's been so good the last couple of years. Fucking insane video. That would be awesome. And honestly, the last time we did this little thought, this thought leader process,

we came up with the four man scramble. So hopefully we can, I mean, you have to get four pros on the same golf course. I mean, it has to be a couple days before a tournament, right? I mean, they all be in the same. Yeah, we could do, I wonder if we'd get them do like a nine hole. you know four player alternate shot there yeah um be stood just working with the pro and like them being on your team and being like you have to hit a good shot here especially if you get really good um personalities out of these people like a harry higgs or something that's like dude like dial it in

right now you can do this like so he really caring about it would be so much fun i almost want to delete this from the from the video because it's that good of an idea uh well we'll get into this And one reason I think we're going to be really good is because we have our SIM drivers and our SIM three ones. And I got a SIM five wood and it's freaking awesome. The Taylor made Sim family, which you've heard us talk a lot about, a lot about in the last few months. The Sim family hits stores this Friday, February 19th. The Sim 2 drivers, fairways, rescues, and three new sets of irons as well are now here. These things, I can't tell you when I went to Pinehurst and played about a month ago with my boys,

and it was cold conditions, and they could not believe where my drives were going. They could not believe the sounds and my irons. You saw us get fitted at the kingdom and how pure and how much better everything looked. It's because these clubs, did you not mess around? There's a reason that the guy that we're talking about right now, Dustin Johnson, a lot, he's a tailor-made guy. Roy McElroy, Taylor-made guy. Tiger Woods, best player to ever play the game.

tailor-made guy. There is a reason. So do yourself a favor. Go to the store Friday, February 19th, get fit, check them out. The Sim family, the irons, which again, they have three new sets of irons. I love the P-770s. The P-790s are awesome as well. All their new sets of irons, the Tor response golf ball, which we slapped our logo on is a phenomenal golf ball. If you wonder what like tour-level tour-quality golf balls like without paying out the wazoo. The tour response is your answer. So a big thanks to Taylor Made and we're pumped to be playing Taylor Made because all of our games are looking significantly sharper. We've got in a few weeks here a big stretch of golf coming up for the boys.

And I'm quite pumped to see how everyone does with their Terramade gear. So exciting. The gear is incredible. Yeah, we are playing a lot of golf coming up. And it is going to be good to get a couple reps in with these things because they're just another level. I had a buddy send me a picture of these new clubs. from an inferior company. He sent me a picture of these new ones that they released.

And I just sent him back a video of Tiger Woods twirling his sim after a drive at Augusta National. Well, yeah, he's the best golfer of all time. He's hitting a sim driver. And he's striping one with a draw on like 13 at Augusta. It's just like, which one are you choosing? The one with fucking this guy or that? Like, come on.

Which team are you on? You got to be on the right one. I got to go. Love you guys. Hit it hard. with those beautiful Taylor-made club. Love me. You don't love me, Lurch.

You don't love any of us. You love us. I love all you guys. You don't love us. Love you, Lurch. I love you, Lurch. He thought about that for a second. Love you, Lurch.

Go clean some drones, buddy. Good name for before I go. Yes. Sign up before I go. Who should I get? Just think of any name. Colt. My boy, Colt, who I played with last night.

Jump on, sign up. Love you guys. Love you, Frankie. Talk to you later. I'll do large. Great stuff. Kind of stole my name from last time, which was Colton, but that's fun. Yeah, that's weird. Well, we did play with the Colt C-24, I think was his name. That's weird that I remember his Gamer Tech.

I had a bunch of Colton's reach out to me after I called them out on the last podcast to subscribe to the 4Play YouTube channel, and they were all from the Midwest. They're like, it's such a Midwest. They're like, I'm from the middle of the country. The only Coltons they've ever met that we've all ever met came from the Midwest, and that's just a fact. Yeah, I can just picture. like a mom screaming like, Colton!

Yep. Close the tornado door. That's what you think of the Midwest, isn't it? I think of... Tornado door? That's what your dumb brain came up with? What's it called? Well, you just go to the basement. Yeah, but it's like a bunker or whatever.

I think that's for nuclear attacks, usually. I picture wood walls. I picture a rug, a red old cowlid. TV that everyone sits around. I picture a yellow kitchen with wood cabinets and I picture a porch on the outside. Describing like the 60s or 70s,

I think. Yeah, and you just fucking, everyone's running around. Kids are in little rooms with posters on the walls. It seems like a nice family place. I'm not talking down on it. Like, that's a nice, that's a nice,

homey experience. I don't picture, look at that fucking tailor-made putter cover. Is that with the grass on it? Holy shit. Whoa. If people on YouTube watching this, start seeing it,

but if you're listening to it, you're not getting the visual. That is a hell of a powder cover. Look at this thing for the spider. Are you kidding me? I need to get, I need to get, I think they have a pizza one

that I need to get sent. The Hawaiian, like beach one that they gave me that I actually have on my bag down in the car right now is, says a loa on it. It's like light blue with like a fucking umbrella. It is, you got to get the pizza one, Frank.

Totally. But yeah, that's what I think about the Midwest. You know it was a great putter cover that I saw? I just, I saw it online somewhere, but it was, uh, it was the wallet from Pulp Fiction as a spider cover, which I thought, bad ass motherfucker. Yeah, I thought that was a great putter cover. I forgot where I saw it, but I might have to get that.

Yeah. Oh. My buddy had one of, um, Mike's secret juice or whatever from the, from, um, space jam, you know, the water bottle. Secret sauce. Secret sauce. Yeah. that's a really good putter cover too.

The name I'm going to go with, if you're out there listening, Spencer. So if your name is Spencer, you motherfuckers, right now, all you Spencer, you need to go onto YouTube and you type in for play golf and you need to subscribe. If you were holding out, too bad. Today's your day. You have to subscribe. Now you will get notifications for all of our videos and you will be a happier person. So Spencer's subscribe.

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and it's about time that you got your fucking shit together, Alex. All right? You didn't do that well in high school. You could have done better in college. Now it's time to pay it back, pay it forward, figure out your life, do something with it. Alex, your whole family wants you to be better. All right? Your mom's worried about you.

Your dad disappointed at times. Be able to walk downstairs and be like, you know what I did today, guys? I fucking subscribe to the four play golf podcast, and I feel better about it. myself. I am one of 116,000 patrons that enjoy watching. There's a couple of guys, a jolly guy with a goatee and a receding hairline, play golf. I'm not talking specifically about you, Try. That could be anyone. Well. And Alex, you know what, man, you just, or girl, because Alex could be, what's the word for that. Is it it's by gender?

Is it, is it, gender fluid of a name? You know, it could be guy, girl, it could be. I don't know, I don't know the term for it. I don't know. There's a word, it could be anything, right? Like, Frankie could be. Gender neutral?

Gender neutral. Maybe it's a gender neutral name. To be gender neutral. I'm trying to think, like, if you can, if you can use a name for either male or female. Gender neutral, I think. I think, but like, if you can use either your left or right arm, you're ambidextrous. So is some of that pre- fix or something, would that be? I don't know. I think when parents

are thinking about what they want to name their child and they don't want to know, they sometimes they come up with a gender neutral name. But Alex, yeah, there you go. So Alex, you piece of shit, get your shit together. I want, I'm rooting for you and let

me know when you subscribe, send it to me. I'll respond back. Thank you. It's about time you got your shit together. And we'll move on with our day. And we're going to be posting Taylor May videos every single Tuesday. and we're going to have a great time. We're going to have a great fucking time on that channel. We like to play 2K.

We do all these videos against pros. We're really up in our shit. You know, I get all this messages play the other. You know what? We're no longer YouTube just like, um, amateurs, all right? Every video we're putting out here is a fucking, I mean, we're hitting you hard. Tommy Fleetwood, Matthew Wolf, Colomorcawa, four man scramble, Pat Perez, Joel Damme. I mean, it's nonstop now.

It's nonstop. And what's coming up in the future is nuts. It is nonstop. And that hasn't even mentioned behind the greens, which Frankie's been working his dick off on a lot of the bug that doesn't mention travel show, which we're going to put out, we're planning to put out three to four travel series this year going to four

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We have con. We have figured out YouTube in a significantly better form than we did originally when we made the funny bit about how is this new platform. We didn't really know what the fuck we were doing. I think now we're putting out legitimate stuff pretty much every day. I've got a specific call out because I got a DM from this guy who said, You'll never say my name. It's not a common name, or at least as far as I know. So Easton.

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And we do more videos and more content. So, Easton, my man, you don't want to miss out. Big hockey company name. Easton hockey sticks. Yeah, I was going to say, it must have been a hockey player or base. They make baseball bats, right? So definitely a sport daddy there with that name for sure.

Not a bad name, though. I like that. I like Easton. It's a little bit unique, I think is cool. No, I like Easton. Oh, someone messaged me yesterday because I called out all the Mavericks, and I didn't think there would be any other Mavericks in the world. And a couple Mavericks were like, yeah, I subscribed today.

Really? Yeah, it was like, we got the Mavs. Yeah, we got the Mazz. All right, boys. I think that's it for today. Everybody enjoy Riviera. Everybody enjoy the Genesis. We've got a very good field, a lot of really, really top-end players.

And if you're listening to this before folks had teed off, you might have been able to get it in, you know, Thursday morning. If you're out on the East Coast before they tee off in the West Coast time, you can try to get in your bet on the Barstall Sportsbook, Speeath and Max Homa, plus 400 to both from the top 30. I mean, the Spieth one paid out last week. It was plus 325. boosted. So, I mean, people got paid from that one. You got to be in Michigan. You got to be in Philly or Pennsylvania. And I just think you got to get in on that. If you have the time, if you can get in before the first tea time, do it. I mean, those are two of our guys that we like to talk about a lot on the podcast. Home is a close personal friend of the podcast. And you just want to root for two guys to play some good golf at Riviera. That's a fun little bet. Boosted out the wazoo and you're just going to make some money if that wins. And that's a good thing. That's a good thing for everyone. We enjoy winning.

and yeah, I don't know that I really have anything else. You guys notice that the sun just appeared during the time? Yeah, that's nightmare. So 6 a.m. for you, huh? Yeah, 6 a.m. Wow, it was a 6 a.m. podcast. You're talking golf on a Wednesday at 6 a.m. That's, wow.

I legit, I got up at like 515 to get myself in the mindset. Like, like Dwight before he goes into a meeting when he sits in the car and fucking goes crazy with the music, that I had to get in the mind. You can't do a golf podcast. You'd be audio show and you're just asleep like a zombie. It doesn't really work. I had to get up and get ready to go. I've been getting a lot of,

you know, oh, yeah, go ahead. Well, now it's fucking 741 right now on a Wednesday. And I've got, I could just kind of do whatever I want, which is great. That's too early still. Like, you should go back to bed for at least an hour. I'm not to go back to bed guy. I would rather, I would rather go hard, not go hard, just like have a normal day. I don't ever go hard.

And then just be able to pass out tonight. I've been getting a lot of messages asking for an update in my house. hockey team, my roller hockey team, because I've kind of just blurted that out to the world that I've joined a roller hockey league. And I haven't given many updates. We have now won three games in a row. The outcasts are on fire. Our goalie's standing on his head. So I talked about this to Lurch a little bit the other day, but we're playing meaningful games against teams that, like, they have a little bit of rivalries against that they've lost to in years past. And like these games are a little chippy and they're close. Like each goal kind of matters, which I thought going into a roller hockey league,

it'd be 10 nothing every single game or some guys wouldn't show up to really play. I think in this COVID world, everyone just wants to go out, be active and play sports again. And there's just like newfound resurgence of competition and being with people and human beings. So these games are tight. I also don't have much experience in it. So I don't know if they've always been tight. But to me, I just had the total different vision of what it was going to be. I have not yet scored.

I have three games played three apples, though. I've got an assistant, an assisting game. I'm on the sheet. I'm fucking, I'm, I'm, I'm catching passes. The other night, I just have to give a shot. Playing with my buddy, Brian Rowan. He's on the left side. We're both, I get the puck. I put it off the half board, off the boards, and I go around the guy, and I'm fucking

coming down on a two on two. One of the guy's back checking, he's coming after me. And I fucking just pass it through two guys, four sets of skates. It hits Brian's fucking stick. he slams it in for a one-timer. We meet. We fucking jump into each other's arms. I'm like that.

I looked at him on the bench. I said that was the price of admission. That right there is why I joined this league. To have this like fake simulation of me being in the NHL of the game that I've watched my entire life and never got to play. I just got to pass it across a fucking on a rush and you slam it home and like I'm on the sheet. We're winning the game two nothing.

I fucking love this sport. I can't wait. I want to keep going. I don't play ice. And then I'm maybe going to try for the NHL. Like, I mean, at some point, it's going to keep going. Maybe I'll take, maybe I'll take 51 strokes. Like, I'll do that for hockey because I just want to keep playing.

I love the sport. I'm a hook. There's nothing better than men's league hockey, Frankie. And no matter what, no matter the stigma, the, the typical characterizations, men's league hockey, roer, ice, whatever, gets more intense and meaningful than you would ever want to admit to people or that anyone would ever get. Like, it just matters. And I think a lot of it is, and it's like this, I would say,

and like pick up basketball too, but I haven't really played much, but like I think it's the same vibe of anytime you're exerting the fucking, like physical effort required to actually play the sport, you just, you're like this has to be worth something. Like it has to. I can't.

Like, you're fucking hockey kills your body. You are your whole body like, you ache, you get pains because you just run into people where you slash each other, even if it's not intentional. and then every fucking, like, we talked about the shifts on the NHL, how they're like average 42 seconds.

And breathing. People that aren't like huge hockey fans might be like, holy shit. But like it's like running straight uphill for 40 seconds straight. And then you do that for three periods and you're running into people and you're mad at people and you think somebody else is a scumbag on the other team and they might be or might not. But like by the end of it, when your blood, sweat and tears are out there, you want to fucking win. You have to. You have to win. And dude, the breathing is.

I mean, we got stuck in the defensive zone for, I don't know, a minute and a half. I was out there for like a minute and 45 seconds. And I actually thought about just falling on the, on the, just, just flat. Because I said to myself in my head, there's no much, I can't go much further. I know if I, if we don't get this buck out of this zone and I can't, or I thought about just going to the bench and just changing during this onslaught of shots because I didn't, I was no help. to the team. I was barely moving left to right. They're passing it around us. They're getting shots and go, and I'm just like, ugh, I was literally breathing like, oh, like I couldn't even, I couldn't catch my breath. Because dude, I lay in bed. I go to the office, we do whatever.

We're always sitting down in chairs. We stream for four hours. We do whatever we, and then I go out and play hockey like that. Dude, my whoop was like a 16 for an hour. dude Frankie if you could if you could understand and it's a little different now because we're pathetic adults but like when you're in high school college like there are times when you would get punished as a team for shit performances where you would have this happened to us a couple times in college we would have puckless practice so we would we would we would have six a m show up at the rink fully dressed on the ice and they wouldn't bring a single puck out for two hours and it was just a bag skate for two straight hours to wear like 30 minutes into it you're in the position you're talking about Frankie where you're like I honestly the only decision for me at this point to just collapse onto the ground and you've got to skate for another 45 minutes every time that motherfucker blows the whistle or you'll be like in the stands for the next two months so it's like it was the worst fucking thing ever it's like you know it's a great sport and roller's a little bit different because

like it's kind of hard to stop. Like I feel like when I was like ice skating, like at least you learned how to do it and you can kind of be agile. Like, but I'm kind of learning how to stop now. The only thing that I'm, that I'll say that's a negative of it is it feels very much like golf where the only time you can get better or progress your skill is within the game.

So like I can't just go to the driving range of roller hockey. Like every time, every Tuesday night at 8.30 or whatever is my, is my next time I, I lace them up and I, I get to practice skating or shooting or accepting a pass or learning a one time. I don't get to really, and it's within a game with the defender. So I don't really get to learn anything.

I think I think the place we play at gives every team one practice a year or something. And I missed it. I was out of Torrey Pines. So I just missed that whole chance of learning, like, where to be positioned and stuff. So, you know, I'm very excited that I found it now because I feel like I can get a couple, a decent amount of years here. Like I have a guy on my team that's 40 years old and he's a fucking defender. And he's unreal.

He just plays this position. And every time there's like a two on one, he just like intercepts the pass or gets a stick on it. And the guys love him. And I want to be able to be playing when I'm 40 years old because it's fucking roller hockey. It's not that fucking difficult. You can play forever. You can, it doesn't matter. So yeah, I'm very excited that I got into it.

I wish I did it when I was 18. You say you can't improve and that's, I get what you're saying. But you should chip away at that cardio. You can get that cardio up. I need this goddamn Peloton bike. I wasn't saying their name. the other day, but they just haven't sent me the bike. They don't have enough fucking steal in Pittsburgh or whatever.

It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy that they can't get me this bike. I want to be active. I would be on it every single day. Frankie, this summer when I'm back, I want to play. Do you guys, are you guys playing in the summer? Yeah, I'm going to play every season, every, I'm going to play every single time. I want to play.

It's so much fun. It's fun. I feel like if you have an ice hockey player bringing it on where you have a little more control on roller, You guys can have so much fun in roller. So, yeah, I, dude, St. Louis roller hockey's huge in St. Louis. All my boys back home in St. Louis play a ton of roller. And I never got crazy into it.

But like, I would play. Yeah. And it wasn't. I mean, if you can play ice at like a pretty good level, you can, you can figure it out. But you are right. Like not, it hurts you a little bit that rollers first for you because like not being able to stop and like really use your edges like you can on ice is a huge part of the game. And just stopping on roller hockey in general is just hard.

Like you're just on fucking wheels. So for me, it's like I'm doing like all these like roundabout turns and like I'm starting to figure out how to stop because it's really hard. You got like do like a circle and kind of push on your on your right leg. But like to be able to be agile and move away from someone, I would like to just have like sharp edges where you learn how to stop. Obviously it's one of the hardest parts about hockey. But at some point you learn how to do it. Enroller, I just feel like there's like not that level of being able to be quick and movement and like if you catch a pass, you want to move to the left. Enroller everything's very circular for me.

It's like I'm kind of I'm doing a bunch of turns. turns but a lot of fun it's all about getting that heart pumping man like it is got to get that heart pumping yeah the practicing part is like it reminds me somebody somebody told me years ago they're like dude have you ever gone to a range or practice facility and just gone into like the green side bunker and hit bunker shots for like 10 or 15 minutes and I was like not really no I got and and they're like dude if you did that in 10 minutes you would hit more bunker shots then you'll hit in the next year or two yeah And like think about, like think about what that does for you being able to hit more than you'll hit in two or three years maybe in 10 or 15 minutes. You just like learn stuff that you otherwise wouldn't learn.

That is crazy actually. And it's true. Like you hit fucking 30 or 40 green side bunker shots in like in 10 minutes. You know, you're going to hit more than you'll hit all fucking year. Like you just, you know, hit that many green side bunker shots. So it was interesting. but it would be you should find uh you try to find some like there's got to be open open skates or something yeah there is yeah there is um i mean if anyone knows about it message me i'll be there

i'm just i've got the bug i have the itch that i can't find on my leg right now and i just am i'm ready to rock and i also want to get better at golf i want to just become a better athlete at 27 years old i feel like even i should have been worried about that when i was 15 or 14 but some for some reason it's the beauty of um that's the beauty of golf especially is that now you you can just if you become better at golf you'll just be that level forever yeah yeah dude i walked to my kitchen the other day my dad was doing some new tip that he read in some fucking magazine and he was just moving his hip and i was like what are you doing he's like oh i can't wait to get out there and try this new fucking i was like come on dad like that's just you look ridiculous

it was something where like he finishes the swing to start and brings it back and then goes in it's just it's not a catapult it's a golf swing um yeah so yeah you can the only reason i said that is because you're like when when you get to a level that's just how you are your whole life i think my dad's been a sit on the toilet read a magazine get a tip since he was like 20 so i think that's why he's still that at 60 yeah yeah uh you're motivating me i'm gonna try to get on a men's league team here in arizona hockey's popping off i feel like there's a bunch of ranks down there right like i mean they get a lot of players dude there are because i'm time I said it, I ended up getting COVID right after, so obviously I couldn't join a team.

But last time I said it on the show, I got a good amount of messages. And people were like, yeah, the hockey down here is like really fucking good. A lot of guys move here, I think, too, after, you know, from other places, there's imports from different spots. So there's pretty good hockey around here. So I'm going to try to get on a men's league team. You've motivated me, Frank. Hell yeah. All right.

That's it for us again. Everybody enjoy the Genesis. Do we have picks for Genesis? Mm. All right. I'm taking Cantley. You're high on Kansas. lay right now. I know high on can't lay right now. Why? I just like him. I mean,

I just like him. I think he's steely. I think he's got all the talent in the world and he's playing well right now. Why the fuck not? Good. I'm going Xander Shafley. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, now you guys kind of put me in a little spot here. What did you think was you think we weren't going to ask you? Well, no, because I was going to pick, you know, I was actually going to pick Zander Shafly as fucked up as that is. That name was in my head. Because, Because, you know, he's been in the mix and we've, I've just seen his face a lot. California kid. For me, when I see a guy's face during a broadcast a lot, it just gets etched in my brain.

And I can't, I always think about him the next week and the week after. Like, right now, all I'm thinking is the name Jordan Speed. Even though I don't think he's going to win. Like, we've just seen so much Jordan Speed. I can't think of, like, I'm not thinking of a Colin Morikawa right now, who you should be thinking about. And I'm not, you know, like, you know what? Fucking Kalamorikawa.

You don't talk about Cali. He went to college out there, the whole thing. Fucking Kalamoraka. All right. I like it. All right. That's it. I got Zander.

You got Morikawa. I hope Zander wins now. I bowled you off of Morikawa. That's the name I was thinking of. But now I got Morikawa. I mean, boo-hoo. I have Colin Morikawa. I guys want the best players in the world.

Fair. Okay. Well, good luck to those picks. Good luck to Max and to Jordan Spee. Everyone have a lovely weekend. We'll be back, as always, on Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.