Fore Play - The Hilarious Nate Bargatze, and what should the TOUR do about COVID?
Episode Date: June 25, 2020We are joined by the hysterical comedian Nate Bargatze (63:44). It’s amazing. Before Nate, we discuss the TOUR’s increasing COVID situation, Frankie’s “ace” on the Cradle, Riggs’ Pinehurst... send-off video, and much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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It's Travelers Championship Week.
We got the very hilarious Nate Bergatsi on the show.
I didn't really know what the hell we're going to talk about, and we talked off and laughed and had a good time for an hour.
I think it was like 62 minutes long.
So that's huge.
You're going to love that.
And then we've also got Travellers' Championship to get to.
We're going to talk a little bit more about the Nate Brigazzi thing.
And we have a huge announcement.
And that is that we have made our own transfusion.
So for anybody who knows, we've talked about transfusion is the golf drink here on
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We've talked about our partnership with Owens mixers for months.
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what do you think of the transfusion?
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Cool little can.
The thing is that when you go to golf courses or you go to a bar or whatever,
especially during the summer,
you ask for transfusions and like the bartender may not know what it is
and like, oh, what goes in that?
And it's always hard to find that like right level amount of the grape juice
and the ginger ale and stuff like that.
The fact that this is all in one can and it's just a perfectly good tasting transfusion
and you just have to mix it with whatever vodka you have,
it's it's a must have for any golfer it's a must have for anyone stock in their fridge for
the summer really all times a year but transfusions when the sun is shining and the heat is on
man we were drinking them today with the ice all the way to the top of the cups and it was
fucking refreshing man it was good it was a really good drink yeah and you might be friends
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this stuff like Frankie said, we drank it today. It's fucking delicious, man. Yeah. And look,
like transfusion could be inconsistent, right? You go to one course and like somebody, they're way too
heavy on the grape. Next one. They're way too soft on the on the ginger or whatever. And they
just don't get it right. No, no, no. This has been taste tested. We've
perfected it. We got it exactly how we like it. You can drink it alone, which is also delicious.
We're actually doing that a little bit today because we didn't want to, I mean, we were doing
the shoot. We're trying to get the stuff done. Announcement videos. We didn't want to be,
we can't be like hammered drunk in the middle of the day on like Wednesday trying to go do
podcasts. So we were just drinking it without even the vodka. It's delicious.
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stuff. We're pumped about it. You can go get it as of right now. You can get it on the internet.
So go check it out. All right, folks. We got a little addition, a little addendum, if you will,
to the podcast. We recorded everything, just a little like logistics. We recorded everything on
basically, what, Tuesday. We had a ton to do. We had the new Owens transfusion mixture to record.
We had a commercial. We had to travel, Barstall Classic. Frankie's going up the East Coast, Trent,
all producers back home. So there's a lot of.
of things going on. So we just recorded. And then shit kind of hit the fan. We've got COVID all
over the map in terms of the PGA tour. It's only two and a half weeks back. And a bunch of cases,
Commissioner Jamarhan had to have a press conference today at 2 o'clock. People were taking,
oh my God, the PGA tour going to get canceled after starting up again. It's not, but we got
people, Webb Simpson, Brooks Kepka, Pramick. A bunch of people just withdrawing from the tournament
it because of COVID reasons, whether it was in contact with someone who has it, whether they
have a family member or whether they actually tested positive, there's all kinds of stuff about
false negatives.
There's kind of two schools of thought.
One is like, yeah, of course, this is going to happen.
We're returning hundreds of people really to a major sporting event that's traveling
around the country every week.
You're going to have a few COVID cases pop up.
Another school of thought is, this is careless, this is South Carolina.
fish. This is not necessary during the global pandemic. I ask the damn thing and we'll start up
another time. I don't really know where I sit, to be honest with you, but it's happening and the
COVID's all over the BGA door. So it's something we got to talk about.
This is something we have to talk about. Yeah, it is something we have to talk about. One of the
few times we've ever recorded on a Tuesday for a Thursday show and Wednesday, just everything
happened. I will say my personal opinion is I'm worried. I'm worried about golf. I'm worried
about sports in general because you think about it, golf is the first sport back. It's the sport
by its very nature where social distancing is a thing. You think it should be relatively easy.
It's never going to be easy. We're in the middle of a global pandemic. And the first week went
well, second week went okay with Nick Watney testing positive. But then today and this week,
it feels like it's going to be way, way harder than everyone imagine. And if it's this hard in golf,
just imagine how hard it's going to be in sports like basketball and football.
I just, I want this to continue.
I want them to keep playing golf because I love watching live golf on TV.
But if we're being honest, I don't see this thing going for more than a couple more weeks before cases start going crazy, even within the bubble of the PGA tour.
And they just shut it down.
Sorry, go ahead.
It's Lurch's birthday.
So we're bouncing all around with timing.
So yesterday when we recorded it wasn't his birthday, even though this is all coming out on the same day.
this is lurch is two different ages while it comes out it's not his birthday by the way
Lurch is two different ages as we're recording one podcast
which is really fucking me right in the year hole
go ahead Lurge
No so I was just going to say thank you Frankie for that leading though I do appreciate being two different ages while I speak to everyone
But I mean our conversation with Pat Perez was way too premature when he was
almost getting cocky and being like, I mean, I think like things not out there.
Like, I don't know.
We got so many people moving around.
What we didn't really factor in is it's like a two-week delay before you really show signs of this thing.
And so now is cases start to pop up and people are doing, you know, in some cases they're doing the wrong thing.
It's going to be interesting about Cameron Champ.
First, like a Chase Kepka and kind of the pass that they take.
But.
But it's your frozen on my screen.
how you really sound like a robot
sound like an EDM song
I feel bad
I can just
I could tell his
his take probably stinks
and that's
his take probably stinks
and this is just Zoom being like
no one wants to hear
what he has to say it.
I feel bad that he says
I've been doing a little day trade back.
I feel bad that he's still going.
Lurts you cut out pretty much that entire time.
Can anyone hear me?
Is the quality stuck?
Okay.
Quality is horrible.
I turned off my video.
Oh, God.
Can we get this guy out of?
This helps?
You're a robot.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Is it still bad now?
No, it's good now.
No, your take has to be over.
So anyways, in 10 seconds,
conversation with Pat Perez, premature.
Yep.
Right when you get to the take,
it's like Zoom legit wants you to set up the take
and then not let you go.
Ors take ever, obviously.
We might have lost it.
And it takes two weeks to show signs of anything,
so nobody can hear me.
All right, yeah, we heard that.
The delay.
You're talking about the delay thing.
Totally good.
Yeah.
This is tough.
So here's my thing, right?
I think I'm just going to harp on what Benjamin Severin says, Lurch.
Essentially, it takes a little bit of a time for these cases to pop up.
And I think that guys were real loosey-goosey walking out from their testing center
into the range and into the putting green.
We talked about how Matthew Fitzpatrick said, yeah, like after we get tested,
we're able to go wherever the hell we want.
This is not only bad for golf, but it's bad for all the other sports that are trying to come back.
You see all the MLBPA and the owners, they're fighting,
and they're finally agreeing on when they can come back.
But it's like if golf can't fucking survive, when it's like the most socially distant sport in the world,
why is any other sport going to survive?
It makes me scared for humanity the fact that like this thing's not going away.
People said the fucking heat would stop this thing or whatever.
And people that have no idea what the fuck is going on with the coronavirus are just wrong at this point.
It's never going away unless we just, I don't know what has to happen.
We need to do like chem trails of like a plane to just throw disinfectant around the whole world or something.
I don't know how this thing's going to ever stop.
Well, yeah, there's like two things, two problems, right?
Well, there's a lot of problems.
There's a million problems.
But the one now is that we're getting a bunch of cases in golf,
but also like you're saying, Frankie,
we're still living in a society in a world where corona cases are going up all over the country.
So what might even get to the point?
And Jay Monahan talked about it today in his press conference where we might reach a point,
someone asked them a question.
We might reach a point where it gets so bad even just outside of the golf world and in the real world
that they won't be able to go to all these different places.
So it's happening in both places where golf, there's more cases in the bubble of golf and the PJ tour,
and there's more cases coming in the real world.
And it might just get to the point.
And I don't mean to be doomsday and pessimistic.
But it just feels like sports might just not happen in 2020 if this stuff continues.
Yeah.
It's very clearly, right?
Like if golf started back up and there were just no cases, we'd all be feeling really good about stuff.
And this is like the opposite of that.
So everyone's clearly going to have a very pessimistic, shitty view of it.
It's bad look.
It's bad news for other sports, which really, really sucks.
That's a great point.
But I will say that, like, it's also, it's a bad look, and it makes you sort of say shit.
We're not done with coronavirus.
But also, like, nobody's just like, people understood.
Okay, we're going to flatten the curve.
We're going to be able to handle it.
If people do get it, we can do contact tracing of it, which, like, I'm not sure that that's not happening.
So I guess if you really looked at it's core, like, of course we're going to end up here.
But it'd be cooler if we didn't and everything looked better because it's a bad,
it's a bad sort of example for other sports and it's not going to help other sports come back,
which sucks.
It's crazy what you just said.
It's also crazy that Lurch has just been driving with like the windows down, down a highway during a podcast
and not muting himself.
Mute that thing.
When he's not speaking.
It's insane.
You can hear me?
Yeah, it's crazy.
You got to hear.
I just left a birthday dinner
and this is the acclaim I get
I get yelled at
I get I mean
All right so you're clear right now
Let's move on to the next topic
Because we all know that this is
It is kind of doomsday
But like like Rigg said
It was to be expected at some point
If you know this thing's just clearly
Not going away and we're going to have to deal with this
For the foreseeable future
I don't want to say more importantly
But I got a whole on one
Oh boy
Congrats welcome to the
club. Next topic. Thank you. Thank you very much. I mean. Everybody knows you didn't get a
hole in one. I'll go back on mute. Well, Lirk, you can you can take yourself off of you right now
because we have to have a little bit of a back and forth here. I got a hole in one on the cradle.
Fact or not a fact? Fact. Fact. Right. Right. So it's a you got a hole in one on a
pitching pot is the same thing. But that's disrespectful to the cradle number one. And number two,
It's quite literally a hole in one. Did I go on Twitter and Instagram and say, I just got a hole in one my first one ever? No, I said, I got a hole in one the third hole at the cradle, which is quite literally what I did. If you want to break it down to statistics, there 130,000 people have played the cradle. 130,000 rounds, 495 people have gotten a hole in one. That's 0.02% on that hole, specifically, the third hole. 0.02% chance of making it. You're going to tell me that's not an impressive stat.
I'm not saying.
Go up there and they play that fucking hole.
I played with other people who didn't get a one.
Nobody is saying it's not impressive.
But let me ask you the same question.
We asked Riggs when he came on to this podcast.
When people ask you, do you have a hole in one?
What are you going to say?
I'm going to say.
I love it.
And yeah, I did say to Riggs that I don't think it should count because it's a par three course.
But let me tell you something.
Watching that ball disappear on the third hole at the cradle with piner's in the background
during a nice dusk sky.
and watching the father and son who were on the ninth teeth looking down at my ball,
watching them go crazy.
And the fact that I get a coin that says holding one at the cradle,
all that makes it feel pretty goddamn real, guys.
It doesn't feel like I'm at my level picture.
I would say this rolls you up to being the perfect Islanders fan.
Just fine.
I don't even know what that means.
I mean, the Rangers haven't won anything in 120 years.
I think you guys set it up,
and maybe Riggs especially because he's been opening you or welcoming you with open arms into this ace club.
but we want to be excited for you.
We want to be like, that's awesome.
You got a hole in one.
I am.
Right.
But then you throw something extra on it
where we got to argue about whether it's a real ace or not.
And it does take away from what you actually did
because what you did is very cool.
But I'm not saying it's a real.
Here's my argument.
And when I see all the tweaks and stuff,
like it's not real, it doesn't count.
What does that mean?
Because it quite literally is real.
It's a whole and one at the cradle.
It's a hole and one at the cradle.
Okay.
Hold on.
So my question, Frank.
So you say, so I say, do you have a hole in one?
Your response is?
Yes, I got one at the cradle at Pioneers.
And then my follow-up is, oh, nice, what's the cradle?
And I say it's a par three course.
Just like you would say, I don't know, man.
Like, what if you played Pioneers number one,
and it's like a 5,800-yard golf course,
and they happen to have the T's all the way up on a par three,
and it was 92 yards?
Like, I mean, does distance have really to do anything?
And also, what's the stigma around a P&3 course?
you're hitting, wait a minute, when you get a part three, when you get a hole in one on a
part three, it's a, it's a par three.
But you're hitting wedges over and over and over again.
Yes.
What is what I just did on the last hole or the one I'm doing on the next hole?
Have anything to do it what I just did on the third hole?
I think you get into a groove of it.
I think that makes the big difference.
What the fuck does that mean?
What the fuck does it?
So now you're telling you.
You're not a hole in one.
No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying what the fuck does that mean?
What if I played a piner's number two and I hit wedges all day?
I got a fucking hole in one on like the fourth hole in whatever the first part three is.
What if that happened?
You'd be a fucking psychopath.
Okay, but it's still, my point is the whole before and the whole atmosphere matter.
Here's my thing.
I know everyone's going to say it's a part three.
You make a lot of great points, Frank.
Keep going on.
It just is what it is.
I never said it was anything it wasn't.
I never did.
And I never will.
I'm not going to say that I got a hole in one at fucking band and dunes or or Pevel Beach.
I'm going to say I got a hole in with the cradle, which is what I did.
I think that's-
Do you have a legit?
Do you have a legit hole in one?
I made a one?
Yes, I have a legit hole in one on the cradle.
Yes, I do.
So you don't, because you have to throw that caveat in every time.
You simply don't have a legit hole in one.
Which I appreciate.
But I'm happy.
When would you ever not, when would you ever not follow it up with where it was?
Have you ever heard someone say, hey, do you have a hole in one?
Yep.
And then they just go, okay, cool.
No, no.
It never happened.
They always.
I do worry.
You know what happened?
It was like the 16th hole at this other.
course they always do that.
You say that then the person follows up.
Nice. Where it was in? What hole?
Here's it. And I say the third hole, the cradle of Pinehurst.
Here's the thing I say.
They ask you, they don't ask you how.
They ask you how many. And the answer is one.
Okay. That's all I can say. The answer is one.
All right. So, Frankie, you're lucky.
It's an old hockey trade, right? Like, it doesn't matter how the puck gets in the back of the net.
They just ask you how many. They don't ask you how. It all looks the same on the scorecard.
It's a one, all right?
And everyone's saying with a 50-yard hole, it was a 78-yard hole that I hit to the back,
and I hit to the back edge over your bunker at fucking Pinehurst Green, which are crazy.
And the ball fucking trickled down 35 feet on a slider.
This dad almost had a heart attack on the top of the green.
He couldn't believe it went in.
He says he lives off the golf course, and he gets there, and he watches the way these things break
to see what the ultimate angle is to take it at that hole.
Because quite literally, everyone that plays the cradle,
They're, quite literally, every single person plays the cradle on every single swing,
they're trying to make that ball go in the hole.
And I am of the upper echelon group of 0.02% that's actually succeeded.
So I don't care what, I don't care.
Me and Ryan, you have two people in here that out of 130,000, two of them are in here,
and you're lucky enough to speak to them.
So, frankly, if you make, if you make, if you make, if you.
you make a hole in one on the 17th of Pebble Beach the next time, right?
Phenomenal hole in one.
If someone asks you how many hole and ones do you have, what is your answer?
I will say this and I will concede that point to you because even today I played golf,
I'm down here.
I think it's like Bethany Beach or something like that.
I'm in Delaware.
Just answer my question before you make this long with it bullshit.
No, because I think that I do want one on a full golf course.
I will save that feeling for that.
But I've never said I have a real, real fake, whatever you want to say.
I'm never going to say that I got that.
I'm saying I got a hole in one at the cradle.
That's all I've said.
I've never once, no one's going to catch me slipping up on that.
I will.
That answer is enough for me.
That little stumbles is enough for me.
I would say two.
Always say two.
I was at this thing.
At this golf course, we're here at Bear, Bear, Bear Dance, Dunes or something like that,
Bear Dance, Bear Trap, Bear Dance, whatever.
And, you know, we're on a par five, and I drilled a second shot, and it, like, hit the pin.
And at that would have went in, that feeling may have been almost better than the, because you know what I mean?
Like, it was like a fucking 220-yard five iron that curled in and it hit the pin.
Also, I'm like pin seeking now.
That's crazy.
Every time I play golf now, I'm just hitting pins.
It's insane.
But I will concede that fact to you that, like, yes, there are certain things.
Just the same reason as if you hit a drive, beautiful drive.
at fucking over the, over the seventh fairway at Pebble Beach, or if you hit one at your
municipal golf course, and they're going to feel different, right? Like, that's just the fact.
I, I, all, the last thing I'll say is I'm glad that you got it. I'm glad that Riggs got one.
But I think evidence of the validity of it being a whole and one is the proof that two of the
people on this show got one in the last like two months. Like, we came into this and nobody had anything
and then you guys play at the cradle a bunch
and all of a sudden there's two on this show out of four people.
I talked to Ryan Whitney.
I asked him if it's a real hole in one and he said,
it's a hole and one at the cradle.
But he said as a caveat,
when he goes with his buddies,
they like do a bunch of money,
like a hundred bucks with the first guy to hit a hole in one.
Like year after year,
they keep going to Pioneers and they have like a group
and they don't count the whole on the cradle
because the first year three of them got one in.
But I mean, I don't know if that's like continued.
I mean, like it can't keep continuing.
you because I've given you the percentage, it's 0.02%.
That is a fact. They have the numbers.
So, I mean, it just happens that, like, people do get them because you have more chances.
That's a fact.
And you know that the percentage is way higher on the cradle than it is on a real golf course.
I know that.
Okay.
I mean, congrats.
It'd be cool to hear just congrats and everybody would be happy for Frankie.
I took one swing in the ball and the ball way in the hole.
Congrats, Frankie.
And I think I did.
That is awesome.
What was your reaction?
Well, the guy went up, so I only played with eBug, and Ebug has seen my hole in one,
and Riggs is a hole in one.
No one else was there.
Everyone had just left.
Lertz doesn't have a hole in one.
Lurch doesn't have a whole one.
Yeah, no, Lerch doesn't have one.
And the guy just, the all black rigs.
The guy up on the green, the guy up in the green was, that just went in the whole.
I just went in the hole, and I just dropped my club.
I'm like, I just got a hole in one.
So that was that moment.
Yeah.
I mean, I wish that people would greet me with a,
congratulations.
Similar to the way that they greeted Riggs.
I mean,
you guys are laughing.
Similar to the way they greeted Riggs on his exit at Piner's,
which we must bring up because it is one of the more viral videos
that have ever come out.
Riggs,
I don't know if you want to talk about what happened today at Piner's,
but,
I mean,
the whole world is,
I think,
awaiting your stance on this.
Look,
I am not going to feel bad.
You collected yourself?
No, let Riggs go.
It's crazy lurch just talk there.
I just wanted to know if he had collected himself.
Look, I am not going to feel bad.
I'm not going to feel bad for Pioneer showing how much they appreciate me
and me showing how much I appreciate Pinehurst.
You don't control when you cry.
You don't decide like, oh, I've not weighed all the situation, everything that's going on.
I'm going to decide to show some emotion.
You just do it.
So my point is that Pioneers puts this great send off to me,
when they all come out, all these folks that I've gotten and know
incredibly well over three months during a global pandemic place was shut down for a long time there
was no business the only thing that was really going on was i was kind of in town i was putting up
videos i was trying to showcase the property became boys with dave with bin with tom with this whole
crew of pinehurst and it meant a lot to me and then when i left it meant so much to them that they
all showed up and that they all gave me a lovely send-off and i got emotional over it
and I'm not embarrassed about that.
I'm proud of that.
I'm proud that I showed them how much it meant to me.
I'm proud of that.
What's wrong with that?
I just want to say a couple things.
Just a couple things we can all talk about it.
Okay.
One of the most preposterous videos I've ever seen in my entire life.
I can't believe that it happened.
You stayed at a golf course.
I'm a super nice place for 99 days and you're leaving to go to your Barstall Classic.
And they gave you a.
round of applause as you walked out.
So,
Trent can't even,
like,
it's legitimately,
I,
I've been just laughing out loud in my apartment all day.
So,
um,
one of the things I want to talk about.
Uh,
is,
is insane.
That's,
I mean,
that's some crazy shit.
But what I,
the part I didn't understand.
Why?
Why is that crazy?
I just don't know why.
What do you mean?
Okay.
But did you,
like,
I guess,
I mean, I guess, I guess, like, I don't know how, like, I don't know how to explain it.
Like, I put up a video of my dad the other day, and he, he cried because he couldn't get the
words out because the restaurant that he had worked for for 55 years is probably, like,
is going through the worst time of all time.
And he finally was able to open, and all these people came and graciously met him there.
And, like, that felt like, holy shit.
With everything going on in the world, this man is crying and weeping at, like, such an
emotional moment.
And I guess for, like, the outsider looking in, like, you play, like,
You've been at the greatest place in the world and just like, I don't, like, I know that they have become, like, really close friends with you. And I have seen that. And I know that. And I know that it could get, you know, you guys have relationships. Are you going to have the rest of your life? But, like, it's not like you're never going to go back there. Like, like, it's just like a golf course that you're just going to go back to, you know? Like, but that's like, you keep saying it's a golf course. Like, people don't, I think it was very clear that it was like the people that, like, I went down there. I fled home. I didn't get to.
Like I didn't spend quarantine with, like, my family.
I very much was not going to go out there because I was afraid I was going to get,
in order to get back across the country.
I don't want to, like, infect my parents.
So I wasn't with, like, my family.
I went down there alone.
I was by myself in Pinehurst.
They took care of me beyond belief.
And I became, like, boys.
I became very tight with everyone down there.
And they took care of my girlfriend when she came down and visited.
Did anything and everything they possibly could.
to make her experience as good as humanly possible.
While I was also there, like, I worked hard with them to raise $300,000 to, like,
bring money to the people, the over thousand employees who were laid off.
And that meant a ton to them.
And they thanked me every time I saw them, like helping them with that.
And I thanked them for helping me with, like I said,
anytime I had friends in town, anytime anything was going on,
they always went above and beyond to the point where they invited me to their
homes for dinner and it was like, hey, I know the whole world shut down. We're down here and like,
yes, like Pineish is a great spot, but it was a ghost town for a couple months. There's nobody
going there that hurt the resort, that hurt all these employees that got laid off. And we kind of
like all experienced this part of like our history together and became very, very close.
They appreciated all the exposures. They appreciated like me shining light on Pioneers to the point
that they gave me a nice sendoff and them coming out showing how much it meant to them.
meant a lot to me and I got very emotional in the moment.
Why would that, why would I be, like, I'm proud of it.
I'm proud that I showed them that it meant a lot to me.
Here's what I, here's what I'll say.
And that's all nice.
But I think over the course of 99 days, I think at a certain point you may have lost
a little bit of a touch with reality.
And then when you put out the tweet this morning, like I, when you see that tweet
in that video, there's no part of you that wants to be a little like self-deprecating.
Like, this is pretty crazy.
But like, they gave me a huge send off and I'm crying in this video.
There was just none of that.
It's the optics, right?
You can't take yourself away from the optics and see what's going on in the world.
And, like, that is the thing that is being taken very seriously,
that you're leaving the golf course to go to the Barstall Classic.
Leaving the resort.
The thing that's being taken seriously are, like, friendships.
And, like, the fact that, like, people and, like, human connection
and human emotions mean a lot.
And then when you've made connections with tons of people
and then you're going to leave after spending three months,
spending every day with them,
that that's, like, a very emotional,
thing. I got tons of messages.
You'll be like, man, the fucking world has sucked for the last three months.
And seeing just pure, genuine human emotion and, like, connection and friendship meant a
lot to those people. And everything's, like, relative.
Like, I'm not saying, like, since when can you only cry if, like, it was your family's
restaurant or if it's, like, some deep thing?
Like, you can cry for a million different reasons. And, like, what's wrong with that?
When is the next time you're going to be back at Pinehurst?
I don't know.
Are you going to go back to there before you go back to New York?
I don't.
It's possible.
I'm not sure.
I genuinely don't know.
I was supposed to, like, I was supposed to go to, like, my buddy Dave's wedding,
which, like, got canceled because of everything that's going on in COVID.
So, like, you know what happens with that?
Are you wearing all black to mourn your exit?
You won't concede at all that that was, like, a pretty wild scenario.
Oh, of course it was wild, but, like, I'm, I get that it was, like, wild.
I get people were making fun of it.
I completely understand that.
But I also think that, like, it's wild that you don't see any, like, any legitimacy
to, like, the human connection, the friendships that were made.
And, like, no one was, like, faking it.
Like, we all felt, like, those emotions.
Like, what's wrong with that?
Oh, I do know the—
Why am I being, like, shamed for that?
It was just one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
We do know the connections.
We saw it firsthand.
I mean, Patchley's amazing.
Your best buddies with Dave.
you made good friends there.
I mean,
and they took you in.
They didn't take you off the fucking street.
I mean, I know.
I mean, like,
they didn't save you from, like, anything really.
You decided to go to the best golf resort in the world.
I mean, that's number one.
But number two is like,
it's just funny optics, man.
Like, it's funny optics.
And there's no way you can't see that.
Dave chiming in was laugh out loud funny because, like,
the way he spins it and not even spends it,
just, like,
commented on it was one of the funnier things I've ever seen.
His blog was hilarious.
It's just the optics of it that, like,
a lot of shit's going on in the world.
And we're sitting here fucking,
talking about leaving a golf resort,
which you're probably going back to a lot.
I mean, I would assume so.
It's fucking pioneers.
Like you guys live there now.
So, I mean, it's just funny.
And there's no way you were going to get away with this
and not have it be like this side taken, right?
I mean, like, we know that you,
we know that emotions can get the best of everyone.
I mean, that's a fact, but it's just the optics of it.
Yeah, I just think that, like,
if I would have walked out of there and these,
like, I didn't ask for them to do, like,
hey, we would like say,
buy you to do a sendoff and ask that.
So if I would have just walked out and been like,
all right, cool, like, I think that would have been like,
oh, this guy, like, doesn't get a fuck about us.
When in reality, it's like, I had the exact opposite reaction.
We're like, that meant a lot to me.
These people mean a lot to me.
I formed connections and genuine friendships with everyone,
from the guys at the front door to the president of the fucking club.
And that's like, that meant a lot to them.
That meant a lot to me.
Everything's relative.
I think that, like, I just was responding in the moment.
It was, like, ridiculous.
So, like, didn't control it.
I reacted to it.
And I'm very, like, proud of it.
I'm genuinely proud of, like, being able to show that kind of emotion.
And they saw that.
I saw that.
And then a lot of people saw that.
I got there Sunday night, left Tuesday morning.
I didn't get dick.
They didn't do nothing.
Nobody stopped me on the way out.
Nobody shook my hand.
I didn't cry a tear.
I didn't even check out of the hotel.
I walked right out of my car and came back to New York.
It's bullshit is what it is.
Trent stole one of those nice little soaps from the bathroom.
I did. I took everything I could. I robbed that place.
Oh, man.
It's just funny. I know we don't talk about it anymore, but it's just quite a video.
It's quite a video.
I got one question about the video. Before we close up on the video, I only said two comments.
I said, you know, I just have you collected yourself before you're able to speak?
And then it looks like you're wearing all black to mourn your exit of Pinehurst.
but my last comment is, where did you go?
So the video closes out.
You're crying, you look back, you say a couple words.
You then proceed to walk out of the building,
and then it pans to Pashley, and he goes, where did he go?
I don't know where he went.
Where did you walk off to?
I just got in the Uber.
You didn't say, like, you shake their hands or hug people,
and that was the final lip?
Well, no, of course I was out there.
I said, buy it all the bellhop guys.
I gave them a nice little note.
And then Pashthy came out.
I said, buy it to Pasch.
And we got the Uber left.
That's amazing.
99 days.
This is crazy.
That is, like, 99 days at a golf resort.
Been through a lot.
It's just, it's crazy.
And, like, not the average, like, you know,
no one gets that, like, ability to do that, right?
Like, in the world.
So that's the, is that a Guinness Book of World Record?
Has to be.
because no one would be allowed to do that.
Right.
You could be in the Guinness World record
for the longest stay to golfers.
You'd be broke to the point
where they'd have to actually keep you there
because you wouldn't have to go anywhere.
Or like they'd just think,
you gotta get out of his room, man.
Like we need, we need the space.
You've been here for a hundred days.
Like you're fucking, you gotta get out of here.
But no.
But rings also brought them a lot of coverage.
Listen, it's a ham and egg.
He fucking built it up.
It means a lot to passion.
we're going to go around in fucking circles.
It's just a funny.
It would have been weirder on this podcast if we hadn't made fun in it.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not blaming anyone, but I'm also going to defend myself.
Totally.
Yes.
I get it.
I completely get it.
Frankie was there the night before.
I bowled my eyes out too.
I have a big heart.
I get emotional.
Yeah, I did.
I saw it.
Yeah, that did happen for sure.
Oh, Frankie.
Frankie, cut out.
All right.
all right
yeah i just got handed two cheeseburgers that's what just happened wow oh cool wow
so on this podcast dude i think that's a second burger somewhere and chicken
casadillas so i've grown in age and you've had chicken casabias and and cheeseburgers in different
states i've eaten two meal and you've been two different ages that's fucking why i gotta get
get off this fucking day i gotta do dinner too all right
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Lurch.
Love you, boys.
See you later.
See you, boys.
Bargazzi.
Hilarious interview.
Love that we talked to this, too.
I talked to Trent that like,
and he's been a huge fan for a long time,
but like, and I said it during the interview,
but Nate Bargazzi is far and away one of my favorite comedians of all time.
He's one of the only people that consistently makes me laugh when he's not even really trying to tell a joke.
It's just he's a fun.
funny guy, right?
There's some people and some comedians that, like,
have to tell a long-winded story just to get that final laugh at you.
And just the way Nate, like, presents himself and the way he speaks and his,
his cadence and the way he talks is straight up there with, like,
the funniest things I've ever seen.
He's, he,
and he just gets, like, the way to talk about, like, real-life situations.
He's fucking hilarious.
He talks about, like, putting milk in a Starbucks cup coffee, and it's one of the funniest jokes
I've ever had.
Oh, go ahead.
No.
No, I was going to.
I've watched his Netflix special, The Tennessee Kid, an inappropriate amount of times.
When I've got nothing I'm watching or anything, I just want something to put on that I know
is going to be hilarious.
I just put on the Tennessee Kid.
I've done it a million times.
And rarely, it doesn't happen all that often, but during the interview on the Zoom call,
I was looking at Nate Bargatsy being like, that's Napar Gats.
Like I was starstruck during the interview, which is probably not the most professional thing
to have happened, but that's just what was going on because it's one of my favorite
comedians right now.
And I mean, we talked to him for almost an hour.
85% of it is golf.
We got into a little bit comedy at the end, which was great too.
But the guy loves golf.
He's a fucking three handicap.
He's awesome.
He knows golf and he loves golf.
Yeah, I was just going to say, like, his humor to me is very funny,
but I think his ability to put you in a spot to, like, laugh at the joke is amazing.
Like his setup and how he brings you somewhere and, like, you're like, oh, no, I've experienced
in that and had like a chuckle to myself and made light of it, I think is.
is awesome.
And I think he was. He was a joy.
Like he said, he's,
he's very conversationally funny too.
It wasn't,
it didn't feel like it was like a bit that we were walking into.
It was like we were just kind of chopping it up with this guy who's,
who's one of the funniest people in the world,
makes you laugh,
loves golf.
He's like,
I've been playing golf every day for like months because of everything that's going on.
So like we get into that.
And it was,
it was just kind of like seeing this dude on the other end of it was,
was kind of like you're a little starstruck.
And then he's funny.
and you're like, you kind of like make him laugh a little bit.
And you're like, oh, fuck.
Oh my God.
This is like happening.
We're doing it.
We're doing the thing.
And he's a huge golfer.
So a couple minutes.
We got to talk about Traveler's Championship.
And then we will get to the interview, which you're going to love.
Traveler's Championship up in Connecticut,
Trent Daddy and I have been there before.
We've been in the tournament.
I think we went a couple years in a row.
Kegan, there was a big time when, when Kegan was kind of our main guy.
He's, of course, a New England guy.
We're a New England car.
company. We're, you know, Boston based originally. So we have a huge fan base up in the New England
area. No fans, of course, this year, but the travelers with yet again, an amazing field.
All or almost all the top players are playing. The course always delivers drama down the
stretch. You get really, really good finishes there. It's always been historically one of the
better attended, you know, the fans, the Connecticut, the New England folks like take the tournament
very, very seriously. It means a lot to New England.
So it's cool that obviously it's Travelers Championship Week.
I'm pumped for that.
And like I said, we've been in the tournament, I think, a few different times and always had a good time.
So I'm glad that they were able to kind of still stick on the schedule.
It sucks and not going to have fans.
But tours rolling on and it's Travelers Championship Week, which I'm excited about.
Yeah, we'll see if there's any fallout with the coronavirus stuff.
I know Nick Watney had it last week.
Hopefully there isn't.
But now that they've gotten the one out of the way, hopefully they've,
learned a few lessons from it actually happening.
They're in the moment.
Things are going to happen.
Maybe somebody tests positive.
They shore up the protocols, and it should be a good week.
It's always a fun week.
It creates dramatic moments.
He had speed out of the bunker a couple of years ago.
They still run that over and over and over again, where he throws the club.
I mean, yeah, I mean, that's just one of the best tournament moments.
And if you're not going to run that over and over again, you're an idiot.
So it's always, it always creates drama.
We'll see if Burger can play well for the third.
week in a row. He's played well there before. He was in the playoff with
speed, right? If I'm not mistaken. That was the guy who lost the speed shot when Berger was
was, speed holds it. So he's actually my pick. I pick Berger this week. I know that's not
like going out on the crazy limb. And the guy hasn't played a bad round of golf in years.
He's coming off a couple weeks ago from yet another win. Seems to not give a shit about the
pressure and maybe even just plays better with pressure, kind of one of those guys. So I think
burger's going to, when he's had success here before like we just talked about. So
Burger's my guy this week. And I picked him.
last week on, I think it was Saturday matchup
to beat Spee. He beat him by like eight shots.
So he's kind of my guy
right now. I want to take
Morikawa. Is Morikawa play this week? I honestly
didn't even look. But I love Morikawa. I wanted
to take him last week, but we were texting
in the group text about who we're taking
and fucking Riggs took Morikawa, so I didn't
want to leap off
of that. So I'm taking him this week. I think when he
starts to win, he's going to win in bunches.
He's a 23-year-old stud. Just give
me a Morikawa win, and I'll be happy.
Rigs, not rigs. Frankie
Who are you going to take this one?
I'm going to take Justin Thomas.
Okay.
He is a 12 to 1 co-favorit, I believe, on some books.
Like Penn National, likes him at 12 to 1.
So, you know, I think Justin Thomas has it.
I think he's got it, and I'm always going to ride with my guy Justin Thomas,
because at some point he's going to win, and I'm going to be correct.
And I'll probably be – I will probably be correct first because I keep picking it.
Well, I'm not going to talk like a guy that knows anything,
as in lieu of Trent's comment the other day.
But I think I'm going with Abe answer this week.
I think he'll break through for his first win.
I'm a big, you know, I support his game, maybe despite Frankie.
But I think he's going to pull it out.
Wow.
What do you mean support his game?
What does that mean?
You just like, you know, I think he's a player.
I think he's a good player and I think Frankie hates him.
Don't you hate him, Frankie?
Do I hate Abe answer?
He's the reason.
He was just sick at the president.
Cup and then Frank
he said that he should play golf or something.
He was the catalyst.
Yeah, you told him you wish.
And it was in the heat of the moment and it was because you love Tiger,
but you hope that Tiger would end his golf career.
Yes.
He was the one that said he wanted a piece of Tiger Woods.
Yeah.
Your tweet was like,
was like posted all over Australia.
I was like,
look at these idiot American golf media people.
I hate a man.
That's why I want to talk about.
Might as well.
Might as well.
He was double down.
He seems like a nice guy,
but fucking double.
now. He was awesome at the President's Cup. He played dynamite at the President's Cup, obviously,
until Tiger dusted him. But I don't think, you know, I think he will continue to have success
he proved in a big stage that he could do it. So that makes sense that somebody would be pretty
high on him. Rory. Well, are we going to document these? We should document this somewhere and
keep track of it just to see how bad we are, like our place. All of our picks for this year,
we should document even if they're made the cut where they stood.
Yeah, but if you pick the winner like twice,
you're like profitable for the year because the odds are so crazy.
For sure, for sure.
But I just, I'll keep all, that'll be my duty.
I'll go back through and select who got what.
And then we'll just say it's like a $25 bet.
My guy Jason Cochrak missed the cut at the RBC Heritage.
So you can narc that down.
So did Pat Perez and Kevin Kessner.
So really anyone's a miss.
So nobody's been even close to correct.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to get to.
Go ahead.
You can document that.
No one's been even close to correct.
I'll play a really easy documentation.
Just look at Justin Thomas's entire season this year, and that's just going to be my stats.
I love it.
Right?
Like, whatever Justin Thomas finishes, however many top tens, every many top 50s, that's who I have this week.
You're going to be, what if he doesn't play, what are you going to do?
I'm out that week.
I'm taking a break from guessing.
Okay.
That's about it.
Like, I'm just riding with Justin Thomas.
And it has nothing, like, I genuinely want Justin Thomas to win.
I just think that if I stay consistent, that I have a better chance of winning more often
than not, right?
If you keep mixing around, it's like being at a roulette table.
And, like, you play in the same number nonstop.
And then you go and switch it.
You know that fucking number's coming out.
So I'm already too deep to not pick Justin Thomas.
I've gone three weeks in a row.
And if I don't pick Justin Thomas the fourth time, he's going to win.
Correct.
Keep picking.
Now, if we want to get more guys in the mix,
I'll combine Justin Thomas with another guy.
But Justin Thomas is always my constant.
Okay.
That's fair.
Good luck.
I'm rooting for your Frankie.
Rory, I just wanted to highlight some of Rory's comments.
He basically kind of reacted to Harbor Town last week,
the Pete Dye course.
He typically doesn't play that event.
It is usually the week after the master's,
but he said, once I got here and I played the golf course,
I sort of remembered why I haven't been here for a while.
Rory said, it's tough.
Like, it's a lovely place.
There's other courses on tour that probably fit my game a little bit better.
And obviously the week after the Masters is always a tough one.
So it sort of looked like Rory was like speaking his feelings of like,
I don't like this fucking golf course.
But then kind of got caught a little bit of like,
I don't want to say that like it's a bad place.
So he kind of did the, look, it's a lovely place.
But there's probably other courses that fit my game more.
just thought it was interesting. Rory's always candid, which we love about him.
And he pretty much in this instance was like, yeah, there's a reason I don't play Harbourtown.
And it's because I don't like the golf course.
He hates that fucking place.
It just so happens.
Everybody wants to play golf because they want to get back in the swing of things, no pun.
And these are the tournaments that lined up.
Yeah, I mean, we can make that joke a hundred times episode.
But it just so happened that the RBC Heritage was the second week back.
And I guarantee even before the tournament, he was like, I don't want to go play this place because I
bomb the golf ball 600 yards.
And this place doesn't really allow me to do that.
But I want to shake off some of the rest before we get back
into it. Before we get back into it, I almost said it again.
So, yeah, he was a little political, but that's
the way you got to be if you're Rory McElwitch.
It's a great point.
Yeah, it is. You can use it a lot.
I had a good one today when we were doing our
little like announcement thing for the Owens mixers.
We had a donkey on the golf course. I mean, that's just a fact.
Yep, we did.
We got the best picture.
Frankie took the best picture of my life of me with this donkey.
I don't know when I can tweet it out,
but when I tweet it out,
it's probably going to become my Twitter adage.
You'll never top that.
There's no way you'll ever top that.
No, it's the best picture I've ever taken.
But someone said that the donkey was,
oh, hold on, guys, my chicken cacidiazzias are here.
I'll pick up your joke.
They always say 30 minutes, but they're fast.
Yeah, they are faster.
I'll pick up from where Frankie was.
It was his joke, so he gets all the credit.
But somebody said the donkeys being a real pre-Madana,
and Frankie said more like...
I said it's going to be a prima donkey.
Best joke of the day, by far.
It was good.
Well done, thank you.
No, he nailed it.
And then I wanted to bring this up,
but if Frankie's not going to pay attention,
we can just talk and make fun of...
I mean, you got it.
All right, so we're at the Carolina Hotel.
Like, you're not going to not order
a really good chicken cassidia from the Ryder Cup lounge.
Like, that's just something that you have to do.
I have one thing about the Carolina Hotel room service
that nobody's talking about and more people need to be talking about.
Their fries are A plus plus.
Some of the best fries I've ever had.
I text Frank the other day.
I got a turkey club on Chabato with fries,
and I texted him.
I said,
not enough people are talking about
how good the Carolina Hotel room service fries are.
They are immaculate.
I thought you had to be going Sunday there.
Had to be.
Those are good, too.
I mean, that's the best thing on the menu.
Oh.
The Sundays are great.
I went in an eBugs room last night to chat with him,
and he just had the fucking Sunday sitting right there on his desk.
So you, sir, are doing it right.
But I have been eating those fries, Trent Daddy, for, you know, 90 days now,
and they deliver every time.
So you're right on that?
Now that Frankie's return, I want to talk about Phil Nicholson just buried you on Twitter today.
Yeah, he did.
Well, so Phil's a lefty, and he's a legend, and he's one of the best of all time.
I'm a lefty.
I'm not a legend.
I'm not one of the best of all time.
But I've always looked up to Phil.
I've had my ups and downs with him on this podcast with, like,
him trying to get, he's going through midlife crises and whatever, that's fine.
But he's still, like, hilarious and a legend, and he'll always be just fucking the lefty.
And to get a response from him of me tripping, so the video, anyone doesn't know, like,
I put up a video at the Barso Classic the other day of me tripping over a bunch of truly
boxes. Obviously, I'm the worst chipper in the world.
But I actually got this one, like, up off the ground.
It was like a little bit of an up, like, above my feet type of stance, and it was kind of easy,
and I just flop a potomist this thing
over the fucking,
just went straight up into the air.
It was crazy.
And that was actually my first try.
Like people are like, whatever.
Who cares?
So, and I tweeted at Phil Mickelson.
Like, how about more like Frankie Burrelli with a pH,
you know, because that's like his thing.
He always says fireside chats and Phil with pH.
And never thought anything of it.
And then I wake up this morning.
And I got a fucking response from Phil Mickelson.
And he said to me,
I'm going to read it to you guys right now because I don't want to miss quote Phil
Mellison.
Amazing you could do that with such poor technique.
Well done.
So yes, it's an absolute burial and an absolute murder and he killed me and I'll never
be able to recover because like he's Phil Mickleson and he destroyed me.
But at the end of the day, he's saying it's somewhat impressive to be able to do what I did.
And coming from arguably the best short game player of all time, that's pretty fucking cool.
Phil Mickleson told me, well done.
Was it like sarcastic?
sure it was a little bit sarcastic but i still got the ball over the fucking the thing so it's like
he's kind of telling like the truth you're you're taking the positives away from yeah well no part
of you or anyone thinks that you frankie have like great chipping technique so he was basically saying
like for your situation that was like really well done correct he said it's amazing i got that
up in the air and did like he said it's amazing what i did amazing Phil nicholson used the word
No, those are the compliments that guys like us take because our golf games stink.
But when Kevin Kisner will compliment my drive, he'll be like, I don't know how the hell
you get that out there and how it cuts like that, but that's a nice drive.
And you just got to take the positive.
Right.
Like imagine Tiger Woods watched you drive and you know you have the worst technique of all time.
But you poked one out there.
You somehow got it like 285 down the middle.
And he's like, you know what?
Not fucking bad.
Like that's not fucking bad.
It's almost more impressive what we're doing.
That our technique is terrible and it stinks and it shouldn't work, but it somehow works.
That's almost a better problem.
Someone wrote underneath the video saying that's the luckiest best flop shot that's ever been hit.
See, from me who knows nothing, I actually thought you did it like perfectly.
Like you opened up your feet, you like threw your hands at it and then like perfectly broke your list underneath and like scooped it.
And that's kind of what I'm going for in a tight lie flop shot.
And so I know there's a lot of risk in that, but from the blind eye, I thought it was a 10 out of 10 technique, execution, everything.
Right.
Now I think the next step is to have Phil Mickelson teach me and fix me.
Because I get a lot of slack and people hate the fact that I'm still chipping and it's the same joke for two years in the podcast and butter knives, whatever.
And like my response to that is, don't you think it's crazy that I've been chipping this dad for two years?
is like just as much as it's annoying to hear the same jokes over and over again,
it's just as annoying the fact that I still can't figure it out.
Like, I'm out here when there's no cameras, no podcast, nothing.
I'm playing with my dad trying to have a good time at like Rockville Links or Terry Valley.
And I'm skull fucking balls into like Rockaway Avenue into people's backyards.
Like, I don't want to do that.
I find it more annoying than you do, the fact that we have to talk about this this often.
Like, yeah, it was a funny bit last year.
I'm over it.
I don't want to hit like this anymore.
So Phil, why don't you fix it?
And I think we should start a campaign.
Phil fixes Frankie, all pHs.
You know what I mean?
Phil fixes Frankie.
It's a dynamite idea.
And Phil Mickelson fixes my short game.
I'm in.
I'm in.
We have like now been for years, I think, chasing Phil.
And it feels like he's close.
He feels like he's been dangling an appearance,
some interaction, some content with for Blanche.
for a year and a half and just won't do it.
So I don't really know where we're going to get to.
But if we could get to a series where Phil fixes Frankie and there's PHs all over the
fucking place, I would support that.
And they can be great.
Phil fixes Frankie fireside.
Like we can do it by a fire and it's all pHs.
However many pHs we need to add to this fucking title, I'll add it.
It's just a matter of the fact that I think Phil was born to fix someone like me because he
knows Ian's announced.
We're both lefty.
It's very simple for him.
teaching me the way that I need to be taught. Yeah, like Kisner's taught me a million
times and that Bryson Deschambe taught him a million times. But Phil's like my,
Phil's on my side of the ball. He's on the wrong side of the ball. And that's who I need to listen
to. Yeah, Phil has been close forever. I mean, like I, when I threw leg kicks out of him at the
BMW, we had a bunch of interactions, then he drifted away and now he's back. I mean,
we've got to do something with him with a big missing piece to Phil fixes Frankie as Phil.
So let's just get him on board, Denver Golden.
Got to have Phil for that to work. There's no doubt about it.
But I like to see him still kind of mucking it up on Twitter.
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And we were talking about it today.
somebody emailed us and quite simply said,
boys, what are your thoughts on the internet right now?
A few people in particular trying to cancel the Masters.
And the theory, I guess, is that the master's name has some racist undertones
that it's like in the South and that I believe this piece.
I think it was from Deadspin,
who we at Barclosports have long, long been at odds with
until they basically disappeared from the internet.
we continued to rise.
I guess they have reappeared and now written this piece that when people think of the name
the masters,
they've always just thought of slave owners.
They've never thought of a master at golf.
And myself have,
I just was so stunned by that because never once in my life have I thought,
oh, the master's tournament, slave ownership.
I've always just thought, yeah, who's going to be like the master golfer of the year?
Like at the British Open, they always do champion golfer of the year.
And in my head, it was just like, yeah, this is the master golfer of the year.
You have mastered your craft.
You have mastered perfecting golf.
So a lot of people tweeting out picture of like, when I think of like the masters and mastering,
it's like they just treat out picture of Tiger Woods.
Like, yeah, no, that's like the master of golf.
That's what that.
That's just what it is.
So I stunned by this whole thing.
Don't know if it's just like if we really are supposed to, if they're like on that borderline of trying to troll and draw up attention.
I don't really know.
But I thought it was just crazy town.
Yeah.
I mean, if it has any validity to it, then I'm in favor of changing it.
Like, if it does, in fact, then I'm totally fine with changing it.
Same way with, you know, the Redskins in the NFL.
I know that they're thinking about changing their name now.
I'm on that side.
And I think, you know, if it has validity to it and it does, that's where the kind of
the name originated, then I'm fine with changing it.
The event is still the same.
It's still this unbelievable golf tournament.
There's five bucks where, like, we get to see the best players in the world.
world go out and play Augusta National. So if it does, yeah, I'm fine with changing it.
That's no skin off my back. Yeah, I guess I kind of agree with you, Lurch, and I also agree with
Riggs. Like, if it, it is a little bit like of a stretch, I think, and I guess you can turn
any word around to say that it had some sort of meeting. But like, I also don't come from a place
where, like, I would read that word that way, right? There's probably people that see that word,
and they just think like, oh, yeah, immediately it's just a master of human slaves.
And obviously that would fucking ruin that person's viewing of it.
And it would make that person, like, mad.
But I just, I'm a fucking the whitest person in the world.
And I just don't see the word masters and think that.
But obviously, there's people that do.
And that's why it's a problem.
But, like, I just hope that it's not, like, someone pulling strings and, like, reaching for things just to get clicks.
It was a dead spin article by a guy that like, I mean, everyone responding was like, come on, man.
Like the world's already like a really bad place right now.
And the fact that like you like may be using this to like get people to click on your article is kind of like bullshit.
Let's like actually tackle like real problems that's in the world right now.
So yeah, that's why I stand on it.
But like if it comes out that there's a fucking documentation that that's why it's called the masters, then rip up like the place and let's change it to something else.
I've seen it to call it like Tiger Woods.
I don't know if you guys can hear me because my internet stinks,
which seems impossible because we're all.
Okay, good.
It was sketchy there for a while.
From what I heard, I agree with what you guys are saying.
If you can trace it back, and I have not done the research,
I suppose that's on me.
We all love golf, but there's a long history of this tournament,
and I haven't traced it all the way back to see where that name originates.
But like Riggs said, I think of it as the master golfer of that year,
but I haven't done the research.
and if you do go back and you find that that is the origination,
if that's a word of that word,
then fucking change it.
Other than that,
I just,
I haven't done the research,
so maybe I don't come from a place of knowing what to do.
Oh,
and that's to me,
it's a no-brainer,
right?
Like,
if it's clear that that is the origin of the name of the tournament,
then absolutely,
like,
change.
Like,
absolutely,
that's,
that can't be the case.
That's awful.
Nobody would ever want that.
But my stance is,
like,
I've not only never thought of that,
but like I've never heard anyone else even allude to that, like ever.
And so I think there are certain instances where it's like, hey, you're just being ignorant.
Like, of course you haven't thought of that.
You're from this.
And I think a lot of the reaction was like, no, I think even like I never have heard anyone bring that up ever.
And so to me, it's just very clear and obvious that like for the tournament that's had such rich,
history and been along for so long that like if that were the actual origin it would have been
dealt with and had to have been changed because the world has changed and that could be something
that I'm wrong about that could be something that I just don't know about and so if it obviously
emerges that that that's the case that that's the origin then fucking rip it up and completely change
it that's awful that should never in any way be brought to the forefront be in anybody's mind
it's awful but I've never thought of it that way I've never heard anyone ever alluded to it that
way and it's a very in my opinion like very um simple understanding of why it would be that name and that's
because like they were trying to figure out who is the master of this craft each year and that is golf
who's going to win the masters and they have i believe they do like masters don't they do like
masters billiards tournaments and like they have an australian masters and they have like that's just
like trying to determine who the master of the of the of the year is and that sport that game whatever it is
so that's the way i've always looked at it that's the way i've always looked at it that's the way
I assume that Augusta National meant it when they created the tournament.
And if I'm wrong about that or if it's proven that that's not the case and that it comes from, you know,
masters literally owning slaves, that's horrific and it should change.
But I do not believe it is and I have not seen the evidence that it is.
And so that's my current stance unless I see that evidence.
Origination is a word.
I looked it up because I really thought origin is the right word and you said it a bunch of times and used it correctly.
I looked up origination,
and that's also a word.
So I just wanted to clear that up.
But I think everything we're saying is right.
It's just something,
either you look into it and you just figure out
what's going on so we can have a clear-cut answer.
I wonder what they would call it if it's not called the Masters.
The Tiger Woods.
The Tiger Woods Memorial.
Not the Memorial. That sounds bad.
But like the Woods.
Wood's Jupiter.
Yeah, that's the restaurant.
Yeah.
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Here is our interview with Nate Burgatsi.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
We got Nate Brigazzi on here.
He's a very fucking funny guy.
You've seen him on Netflix.
He had Netflix special.
Seeing him on Conan.
You see him on Jimmy Fallon.
Big golf guy, I understand.
Is that right?
Oh, man.
I'm obsessed.
We have, I played this morning.
I've played every day.
COVID's been the best thing's ever happened to me.
Golf-wise.
I've played non, you know, I honestly every day.
And I'm trying to get, just trying to get good.
And we have our club championship next week.
And I've never played it like something like that.
So I went and played this morning and just trying to, you know, see, figure it out.
Like you start learning like you're missing.
I mean, there's so much to golf.
It's my favorite thing.
Golf memes.
I'm a big fan of you guys.
Like you guys are, you know, I feel.
like the one ones that cover golf in such a different way. Golf's not a sport that's completely
covered great. Or outside of like ESP and the clips that you get, no one, you feel like you're,
you know, I'm obsessed with it and you're, so you feel like you're not, you don't see anybody be
obsessed with golf and then, you know, seeing you guys is like, you're like, all right, I'm not,
I'm not weird. There's dudes like me that are, they're into it. I don't have some condition. I just like
golf, but it is like, yeah, if you're, if you're a huge football fan, like you probably don't play football
all five days a week, right?
Like, if you're a huge golf guy or golfer or a golf fan,
like you probably play golf a shit ton.
So it is, like, that has helped us where we are able to put our games out there
and everyone's probably like, oh, I don't feel so bad at myself watching you guys play
golf.
Yeah, they don't, you know, and then, I mean, too, like with y'all, and y'all interviewing
golfers, you know, me, y'all kept, you know, I was just say, the Tiger thing,
y'all meeting Tiger was, like, exciting as a fan of you guys, it felt like us meeting
Tiger. Because Tiger's a guy that, you know, he just don't think you're ever going to meet.
And if you do meet him, you're like, I don't know what it'd be. Like, you know, it's,
he's it. He's the dude. And so, I mean, I actually just watched you. I think either y'all
reposted it or I just saw it again of where Tiger coming up to y'all when y'all at the
green. When he asked Trent, where are you stationed? He asked, yeah. And Trent's brain
turned into an absolute mashed potato pile. But what, Nate, what would your answer be if Tiger Woods
or anybody comes up to you and says,
hey, where you stationed?
I just don't have an answer for that question.
Are you asking where our podcast is stationed?
Are you asking where our hotel is?
Or are you asking where Barstall Sports is stationed in the country?
Which answer is it?
I mean, I would want to tell them all three of those things.
I mean, here's my hotel, Tiger, in case you want to come by there.
You should ask him if he's staying with me.
You're like, we're staying over this holiday an end.
Where do they put you guys up at?
You ask like very nice.
He's like, you know, where he can't, he's like, I got a yacht.
And he's like, I don't know, man.
I'm Tiger Woods.
I sleep on the green if I wanted.
So, yeah, I don't, it would be very, I could see giving any response.
I mean, what do you go do, man?
He's the only one.
What he talked about?
So you remember when he won the, obviously, when the major after his dad died,
the first one after he's dead died.
And he's crying, he's hugging Stevie Williams.
And we were watching my buddies.
And Stevie, Steve looks like he's trying to be like, all right, dude.
And we're, I mean, as a guy, you're like,
dude, you better hug him for the rest of your life.
You do not push Tiger Woods off in a moment like this.
He's the only man that I would let cry on my shoulder for hours.
Hours I would sit there with him.
Start robbing his back and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, just I'm here for you, dude.
Whatever you need.
And I've ever seen that.
I mean, that's the, that's the, you know, with Tiger, that's what we,
you see, everybody kind of folds.
Anybody that meets him, they all kind of fold.
Like no one's, no one just looks like whatever.
I mean, it's Tiger Wood, you know, and there's only so many people that are like that.
So that was really my one takeaway after the fact to try to make myself feel better so I could get a full night of sleep after that was,
it would have been weirder if I was confident and being like, oh, yeah, Tiger, it's good to see you.
You know, that's my hero.
So it would have been weird if I acted normal.
So to have my brain completely melt down to the point where I couldn't even formulate a response, looking back, it's not that bad.
no it's not it's it's it's it's anybody's going to react in that way no one and if someone yeah
if someone acts like they're not going to then they're you know it's like they're lying to and
they're not a fan i mean that's meeting jordan you know tiger jordan they're essentially those
are the two those are the two guys where did the love for golf come in for you like where did this
where did this start right because you're obsessed with it and you're playing all over the world like
how did this start i so i mean i grew up playing like i played a little bit growing up and like it never
crazy. And then, but I love sports. I'm just a typical, whatever, regular guy. And so,
I just got into it. And then I would say the past, like, six years is where, or seven years,
I've gotten, like, super hard. When I lived in New York, I lived in New York for nine years,
and we would play some out there. But it was like, you know, I mean, I was a new comic,
and all my obsession was having to be with comedy. So I was going out every night doing shows.
And then as I've gone to play with the road, and then now I've been able to, like, join a club
and like really go there and use it.
And so the past seven years, it's just been,
it's a sport that you can't perfect.
So you're always like trying to do something and figure it out.
And then you learn stuff.
And I was too, like now that I've gotten better and you start learning what a real shot feels like.
And like, and so then now you're like, it's almost the worst thing they ever happened to you is to learn what that feels like.
Because then you're chasing that shot of just like, it feels like nothing.
Like, it's unbelievable.
Like when you can hit a ball and it doesn't feel like it touches your club
and it goes farther than you've ever hit a ball.
And it's just, I don't know, you just buy yourself out there
and it's just, it's so impressive of a game.
You know, I've got to play a lot of pros.
Or some of the guys that have come from.
And so it's so impressive to watch them and how they hit it
and they just pinpoint it where they want it to go.
And, yeah, it's just, you dive in.
It can be the worst thing that happens.
because then you kind of a light bulb goes off like oh i've been doing it way wrong the whole
time like this like actually actually never done it right up until this moment like all the thinking
and tweaking that i was doing like none of it ever did the right thing until now like oh shit
you start seeing where guys like you know where like golf is very hard but the better you get you
start going like i could see how it's not like it's not hard it's obviously always hard but shooting
like if you get ever shoot even part or something you're like all right i could see you start seeing
like how you're like all right i'm the big i say every round of golf i'll say i think i just figured
something out i mean i'm which everybody is i mean the whole and i mean i'll go through rounds
like putting i've finally stuck with one grip but i mean i'll i'll put with i mean you know
it depends on the whole what kind of grip i'm going to use like i'll be i'll go left and low pencil
I'm like, I'll do pencil these three holes
and then I'll switch back up.
You see, you learn you've got to stick with something
and then you just go with it
and then you start seeing it.
But yeah, it's, I mean, it's very addictive because of that.
I always say, like, I've never gotten to the 18T
and had the same golf swing I had on the first team.
Like, never.
Yeah, not even close.
It's fucking, by the time, you know, you're on seven,
you're like, you know what?
I now remember that thing I saw on YouTube.
I'm going to give that a shot.
And then, like, by 13, you kind of abandon that.
You're like, you know, what we were doing on one wasn't that bad.
But like, let's put this other little spin on it.
And by the time you get to 18, it's like you've got just a carnival of golf swings that you're
rolling to the 18th.
I'll be hitting, I'll be hitting cuts.
Like today, yesterday I was like, I was like, I'm a cut guy.
I hit cuts.
And then today I like, I was like, you know what?
I'm going to be a drawl guy now.
I like draws better.
And today I was a draw guy.
And you just switch and like you just have to go do it.
I've been playing.
So John Augustine is, you know, you know, is.
He plays for Vanderbilt.
So the course I remember is at Vanderbilt's home courts in Nashville.
And they, he, so I've got to play a lot with him.
And Shay, who we all have had, Shay's been playing with him.
And he's, he just finished.
He's a finalist.
He was a finals for the Hogan Award.
He's playing in the U.S. Open and the Masters this year.
And we're going for low a.m.
And it's been super fun to play with him.
He's 22.
It's unreal to watch him hit.
And, but then getting to just ask him questions, like,
and just being like,
what are you doing here?
Like just the way he thinks around a course is truly amazing.
And then also going to get to watch him play in the open of the Masters.
I mean, he's going to be, he's coming back for his fifth year at Vanderbilt,
but he's so he'll be able to be able to be the low am.
But to be able to go now like really root.
I mean, you know, like when you know these guys,
and some of them, you're like, oh, I get a really root for this.
Like, I'm going to get to watch his career.
I mean, he is a chance.
He's one of the top golfers in the country in the college.
So when you get to.
to really watch them and root for them and, you know, you learn golfers stories. They have great
stories. Like, you know, it's all just dudes out there. Like, so it's very fun. Yeah, we always say
that because, like, I mean, that's honestly the proudest that we are of this show is that when you turn
it on, we always say it's just like, for the most part, you turn on the golf coverage and you've got
like 20 white dudes that could all win that all look the same. They all come from the same background.
They're like country club guys. And like, you're looking for a reason to root for one over.
over the other. And like having that and then understanding, kind of knowing somebody to a certain
degree while they're coming. Like, it does go from a level of like, no, I'm not a fan of that guy now.
Like, that's like my friend. And I want my friend to win is a whole different experience when you're
watching. I've started watching Kisner a lot more because of you guys. Like I know you guys are
close with him. And not that I always knew who he was, but he's very fun and he's funny. And so just
seen him with you on here.
Like you're like, oh, you're like, you know, he's, he's in my PGA.
Like I star him, kind of know where he's at.
And you're, you know, because you're like, you have a tie to him.
And that's where, like, I have like, I've been very fortunate in my golf world.
But like, I've become real good friends with Jason Day and Tony Feeneau and Webb Simpson.
I've never, I haven't met Webb came to a show and then we've kind of exchanged him.
But Will Gordon is another guy that played at Vanderbilt.
and he's now on the PGA and he's coming up he pounds it dude he's like he carries it
I think it's like 315 320 and uh it's it's it's not it's another thing it's like a different
I mean all of them do it you play with like Jason Day and he does it too uh obviously and fienow does
it he's got like a half swing yeah it takes it to a belt buckle and just rips it yeah and you're
like what if you just swing all the way you just tell him I tell I'm not what if you
used the whole swing. He's like, I think I got it, but all right. Take it all the way back. See what
happened. What if you're just the whole swing? I love that. Tony, I don't, I don't care for you
not going all the way back, buddy. Imagine thinking you're the first guy to tell him that. Like,
hey, you made it so far, but just go all the way. And I bet I can go 500 yards.
I mean, I'm playing with these. Is playing with these six holes, by the way, before I asked,
before I said, what happens if you go all the way back? Like, I was just that guy.
Do you get more nervous playing with guys that are, like, pros like that? Because for
me, like, you'd think it would elevate your game because you want to keep up with them.
But for me, I would just crumble.
It's, you know, they, like, I mean, I played with Augustine was with me this morning.
So he, I don't get no, I mean, I'm starting to play better.
So it's getting, I mean, I still, you kind of got the thing where you want to show off a little bit.
And I think I had that, because you, from comedy, like, if Jerry Seinfeld walked into a comedy club,
I want to, like, murder.
Like, you want to just destroy.
Like, when these guys, if they play with Tiger,
because I've asked them, you know, do they get nervous?
They play with Tiger or something.
But they want to show off to Tiger.
Like, so they want to do so good that Tiger goes, man, this guy is good.
So you can sometimes have a mix of that.
And I've been playing better, so I haven't been too nervous.
But if, I mean, we played, you know, I've played with Jason.
Jason had a great story.
He said they played with a guy that's terrible.
And his ball, so his ball is all over the place.
And every green, he walks up and checks like the ball closest to the whole.
hole.
And Jason Day is like, it's never going to be your ball.
Just so you know, your ball will never be that ball.
When you walk to the green, don't look at the ball close to the hole.
I promise it won't be that ball.
And every time he's like, is that, I don't know.
What is that, Tyler?
Is that Bridgetown?
All right.
Okay, I'm over here.
All right.
Dude, Jason Day is one of our, he's like our most elusive guy.
We can't, we, he, uh, he went out of his way to like talk about how Barstons.
tool's like great for the game and then we just can't get him on the show.
He'll get him. You'll get him. I'll tell him. He'll do it. He's do it right now for sure.
So I'll get him. Y'all should talk to John Augustine too because that's a fun dude.
Yeah. He's just he's his career is coming up. But yeah, you're having Jason. Not a problem.
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Jason Day and I, so we had a lot of momentum to get him on.
He knew we were in the area at Pebble Beach during the U.S. Open, and I locked eyes at them.
And he was like, are we going to do this right now?
Like, are you going to say something to me?
And I just pussyed out.
I just stared at him.
And he goes, okay, and just walked away.
And that was it.
That's the last we've ever seen of him.
That was our chance to grab them and we didn't.
And I haven't slept since then.
It's been about a year.
But it's been, I just always remember those eyes being like,
do you want me to come over there and say something to you guys?
And I was like, no, just keep walking.
He'll do it.
I've become pretty good friends.
Like with, I mean, he's been to my house.
I've been his house.
His backyard is unbelievable.
He's built, he's got like saying like four different types of bunkers,
like an Augusta bunker, British Open, Australian Open.
And he's got US Open Rough.
and then he's got, he's probably had a 150-yard shot in three greens.
I mean, obviously these guys have to do this kind of stuff.
That's their profession.
So, you know, basically a write-off.
But they, so they, but he's a super great guy.
I never know he, yeah, he loves you guys.
And he wants to, he'll do this.
He'll easily talk to you guys.
He would love it.
He's just awesome, awesome, very fun, funny.
All golfers are pretty great.
Like, they're all pretty good dudes.
that the ones that you meet, they're all just nice guys.
Like, I don't think there's any that are just like train wrecks.
I mean, there's probably a couple.
When you're out of time, he's a whole other type of person.
Oh, yeah.
He got so big, man.
It's crazy.
It's weird.
It's pretty wild.
I mean, he really went after it.
Like, I know.
It's like you stare at you're like, I mean, his back, it's back, it's like my back hitting.
It's hunched over.
Like, and I'm sure it's not.
It just looks like that.
But his back looks like my.
shot where it's like a hunch.
You're supposed to hunch like that?
Is that good?
To his credit, it's working.
I mean, he said he had a hell of him.
His swing, it's like a hammer swing, though.
It looks like he's lost a little flexibility, but he is massive over the ball.
Well, I mean, the club looks like a toothpick now.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, and what's funny is, like, how far he's hitting it.
I'll see, like, Justin Thomas, are, you know, where they hit it, you know, as not,
they hit it.
I mean, he's not as long as Bryson, but, like, it's just Thomas's his time.
and then he just smashes it.
But you put all that together?
JT's like a little wire
and he fucking moves it out there.
Roy's a shit house.
Yeah, that's Bryson and he's doing it.
So, I mean, it makes me, like, at least seeing J.T.
It's like, okay, I don't have to look like Bryson
in order to do that.
And then we were talking, like, the maintenance on Bryson
that he's going to have to go through
to keep that body like that.
It's like having a range rover.
I mean, you're like, dude, it's a lot.
It's expensive.
It's expensive to have.
What other, go ahead, what other, like, comedians?
Like, you play golf of many other, like, comedians?
I played, so Ray Romano, he's, I play with him a few times, and he does, I mean, he's great.
He takes it very, he's someone that's really into it and loves it.
And, you know, I think he's, like a 12 handicap or something like that, 11.
You know, I don't think he's ever broke 80.
And that's his big thing.
He, like, tells everybody.
But he has to put everything.
He puts everything in.
He won't take gimmee putts.
And so he plays everything by the rules and everything.
I mean, I've seen balls just tiny, you know, where you're like,
all right, obviously, that's fine.
And then he still just wants to put it.
Him, Sebastian Miscalco has been playing.
I think he just started.
So I don't know.
I played David Spade.
Spade's not bad.
He's good for about nine.
Nine holes.
That's all he wants to play.
It's a weird.
Like, when you go play, he's like, we played in, we were in Vegas,
and we were both playing there.
And so we were playing, and he's just nine holes.
He's like, come out.
But he hits it better than I thought.
I didn't think, I was very curious to be like, all right,
he wants to play nine.
How's he going to do?
And he just pounds it.
It's nothing crazy.
Just gets it in the middle of Fairway and does all right.
Like, it moves along.
And I don't think he cares.
I'm trying to take him by any other comedians.
I mean, there's a bunch of comedians that play.
This comic, Jay Larson, I know, Roy Scoville.
Dave, Roy Scoville's pretty serious about it and can get obsessed with it.
Sounds like the, like, Nashville, like the Tennessee golf scene is pretty, like, pretty packed with fucking guy.
We got Shay, we got Jake Owen.
We got you, like, these guys are playing golf all the time out there.
We just, this summer, yeah, this summer's been, unbelievable.
It's been, we played, I mean, so there's a lot of Vandy.
former vainy baseball players and the pros.
I mean, this year, who I play with it?
And I'm just, this is the life that I'm in.
I don't know.
It's not trying to show it off.
Yeah, you're a name drop.
But this is all name dropping.
I played mooky bets.
I've played twice with him.
He's local.
Sunny Gray, pitch for the Reds.
Mike Neshtrimski for the Giants.
Kirk Sally is a catch for the Reds.
We have a, there's a little friend,
Wyatt that we have that's like kind of friends with everybody.
We've all been kind of connected through that.
So those guys,
Those guys pound the ball too.
You know, they, obviously these baseball players, no idea.
Is Mookie Betts a good golfer?
He's not bad.
He shoots like 80.
Like, yeah, I mean, he's just new to it.
He just shows up with whatever clubs he has.
Like, he has like, these are my buddy's clubs and just uses them.
And then just goes out.
And he's, you know, Mookie, he's like a bowler too.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
He's a crazy athlete.
Yeah, he bowls like 300s, like, all the time.
He's in, like, professional bowling league.
He could have went pro bowling.
I mean, he loves it, too.
Jesus.
I think he made the right choice with baseball, though.
He did.
He didn't choose right.
A little bit more money.
Yeah.
So then.
Money's not everything, like.
She and then I've, and then obviously then Shay.
So, and then John Augustine we've been playing with.
So we've all been playing together.
And Shay, by the way, when Shea came on here,
She's not shooting in the high 70s.
I was going to go.
about that. When we were talking about you coming on the show, you said I have some disputes
about Shays' game. So feel free. He's out of his mind. Shea, Shay's not,
she's only been playing for a couple years. She's not, she's a good golfer and, and can hit it
and actually can play. But he's, well, I saw his interview. He goes, I'm like, I'm like,
high, 70s, low 80s guy. You're like, you're like, you're like, you're not.
He, and I think I figured out why he thinks he is, is we, because the other
day we were playing, he had a crazy hard shot out of the bunker. And Augustine was like telling him,
it was like, telling him, it was telling him how to hit it. And so he's like telling him, and it was
like a whole thing. And then he hit an awesome shot. And then he made the puck. And he's like,
that was for a par. And you're like, no, you drove it, he drove it over into the range right before that.
He forgets like one shot on every hole. Like you're like, no, no, no, no, no. You're like,
that shot was amazing. I'm not saying that wasn't amazing. But you completely forgot that you yanked one
over there that then you went to that one. So he like forget, like he'll forget like his
tee shot. You're like, no, he forgot we teed off on his own. It's like, ah, that's right. You know what?
Bogie. Sorry. I started counting from the middle of the pairway and I lost track. So that's where
Shay's at. When I heard him say that, I was like, I was like, is he? I was like, no, dude, he's not.
He's not. You can be a really good golfer if you don't count like 15 strokes around.
If you take off 15 strokes, you're going to be a hell of a golfer.
Yeah, if you just end up, you know, a draw, like he, but he moves.
And Shay will be very good.
I mean, he's only been playing for a couple years.
Shea definitely shoots in the 80s.
So he's above average, you know, golfer.
But, yeah, high 70s, low 80s, you know, that's not, he shouldn't be, he should say.
He should say, he's just saying, I'm all right, I'm all right, I do pretty good.
And you're like, where's it?
Yeah, he does great.
Where's your game at right now?
You said you're playing well and you're keeping up with the Vandy guy.
So where are you, where are you at right now?
Well, I'm not keeping up with.
But I'm at 3.3 right now.
Woo.
It's an uncomfortable number.
I've wanted, so I was like a sixth start this COVID.
And I was like, all right, I'm going to be at a complete focus on golf.
So I wanted to get to the threes.
And I've had a, you know, I shot like 76 today.
We're having a club championship.
I played from the blue T's.
I shot 76 and it's where it's but it's about shot 85 two days ago.
So I'm still in there.
Three's a little uncomfortable for me.
It's uncomfortable to say it.
Like I'm very comfortably a five, very comfortably.
All day long.
I will be 70s, 80s.
Like I'm fine with that.
But three, you start getting you're like, all right, I'm not.
That's where you're like the people, you're on the first team with people you haven't played before.
They're like, all right, we're doing a match.
Like how many strokes?
You're like, well, I'm a three, but like, I should play as like a five.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're like, well, what?
Like, what the fuck does that mean?
Oh, you said you're a three.
And you're like, you already said three.
You're like, I know, I'm excited to say that.
So I like saying it.
But I do want to say I'm a five.
I just did one of you.
I mean, what are y'all?
Y'all, like, Riggs, you got to be, you were shooting 80s at, you
shoot 80s at Pinehurst?
Yeah, I'm like, I'm down about a six right now and I'm getting low.
I did, there's this guy, Eric Alpenfels here at Pioneer.
who's like the main teacher here.
And he was rolling by me like a month ago on the range and just started giving me a little
advice.
And he's like, why don't you come on down on the other side?
We'll like, you know, we'll throw you on the video.
I was like, all right.
So I changed a couple things.
And for the first couple weeks of that, it was awful.
It was like trying to get used to it.
Like you just said, where you're like one day I'm cutting it the next day I'm drawing it.
Well, I've been basically drawing the ball forever.
And then he's like got me changing my face and my like opening up the face of my back swing.
So now I cut the ball.
So I always still aim.
down the right and then cut it, which is not good.
And so he's finally got me.
It's been like three weeks now, and I'm starting to hit the ball.
Fucking great.
So I'm starting to post better scores.
I'm a six.
I think I should be able to like hopefully get down to around like a five or a four in the next
couple months.
That's my guess.
Or it could go the other way.
Who know?
Yeah.
Well, I feel like we're all, no matter what we are, we all still got a 15 in us.
Like that, that guy shows up.
And that's where you see the guys that get real good
is they're the guys that can't be scratched.
Like I would love to one day be scratched.
But I mean, you're like, there's a be scratched.
You have to, like, your bad day is like a 74.
And that would be an amazing day for me.
Like, it's just how good that is.
You almost got to be boring golf.
I mean, you got to be, you know,
you got to just play where it's always just up there.
Chipping's always got to be close.
I know Frank, you've been working, I've seen your chip.
Like, you had lessons from Kistair.
He's got lessons to Kisner, D. Shambo, he's got a bunch of, it still doesn't work.
It's definitely, it's up here, man.
It's a disorder at this point, right?
Like, you can be taught as much as you want, but you can't process the information,
figure it out.
You're fucked.
So that's me right now.
You just putting. You just putt like 40 yards out.
You're putting.
You're like, just be that guy, you know?
Well, J.T. and Ricky played lefty, like, in the Caribbean, like, during the winter.
And they were, instead of chipping, they were actually putting through the bunkers.
And it was working.
It was, like, elite.
Like, I'm going to start doing that, I think.
because why would I, like, people now come from other holes when they know that, like, we're there or, like, if I'm at a, like, I play at this place, Rockville, and the guys all there at the club know that I'm coming. And then you'll see people start to come out of the trees when I have a nice 30-yard, 25-yard chip over a bunker. And the other day, I just bladed one onto the road and you hear them all go back to their ball. It's like, why would I put myself through that? It's a lot of better.
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Are you worried about where your game's going to go once you're able to get back out on the road
and not the pandemic's not around anymore?
Your game's probably going to suffer a little bit.
It is.
And so that's what I've been trying to like just get this, get these thoughts down.
So like I'm able to, you know, because like you see guys that will be
I mean, I played with a guy the other day, just a guy.
And, like, he was like, he's usually like a zero.
And then he's like, I'm probably a three now.
He's like, like, my best ever.
Like, he's like, I'm a, like, so you want to get to that where you, when you don't play,
you just still know how to swing and you still know how to do stuff.
I mean, I'm trying to get more where I'm playing.
So I play the game.
Like, I have a Garman watch.
Garman's got a great.
I mean, not the, they got a great track.
Yeah.
It's great.
And then.
And so it's keeping all these stats.
And I've recently just taken it off because then you get too, I get too into that.
And I'm thinking about that too much.
So I'm trying to make myself now go out and just like trust your game.
You know, like they're always like just be athletic in the shot.
And like with shipping and stuff, you're like, you just visualize what you're trying to do.
And, you know, I mean, you know, when you visualize a shot and you hit it, I mean, it's like, there's not much better than you're like, that's exactly what I wanted that ball to do.
When you does it.
when you break through like handicapped zones, at least for me,
like I have to regain confidence almost to that level.
Like when I started like a 15 and then I got to a 10,
and then I have to like feel like I should play like a 10
because then when I, you know, now I'm a 6 or 7,
when you get to that level and you play with guys that are like in that range,
they can like maybe move the ball or do something that you can't do.
And then so I feel like I have to regain confidence at that level of a handicap
to be competitive.
Like like what you said, like I'm a 3, but like,
if you want to play for money, like I'm really like a five.
You know what I mean?
And that's the handicap system keeps you on this.
Yeah, it's like if I got up to like, if I got down to like a five now,
that's like I'd be, I'm entering the room and looking around and be like,
you fucking guys have been here this whole five?
Like I'm the new guy.
Like I don't, I don't know.
What are we shooting around here?
And then where so it is.
It's like you kind of get comfortable with it.
But I also understand like what you're saying where it's like for me to play decent golf,
I need to be at like my best.
And it's like I've been working.
on it. And like, whereas there's guys, if you're like a scratch or you're a two or whatever,
there's guys that are so natural that like they haven't played in a month and they're still
playing that high level golf where it's like, no, I can only play what looks like decent golf.
If I'm like dialed and I've been working on it and this is like the peak of my game.
Whereas other people, they just roll out of bed and it's like, oh yeah, 74.
You're like, excuse me?
Yeah, yeah, I've doubled the 18. You're like, you doubled with a 74?
Like, yeah, they just, they know how to, like, not get in trouble.
I mean, that's the idea of it is, like, they don't put themselves any big.
Like, hearing John talk about misses a lot.
Like, I've never, like, you know, strategy.
So, like, you can't think about your swing.
Like, the worst thing you can do is, like, you're thinking, you're, you have just
a million swing thoughts and you're thinking, I got to, my takeaway is here.
I got, you know, you got to be club out.
Because they say stuff that doesn't make sense.
When you hear, like, pros try to tell you something, they, there's, some,
that's really good and they try to explain it you're like I don't know what you're talking about like
the club head needs to be faster than the grip and you're like what do you mean dude I don't know what
that means like I don't know how I was like to swing hard you're like you don't swing harder you're like
you don't swing harder you're like that doesn't that's not a thing dude like that doesn't make sense
and so you don't understand and they they're they're talking like on just another level that you're like
I don't I can't it's almost like you can listen from all those the chipping lessons from the pros you're
like they're just too far gone.
Like they're,
they don't know how to tell you to do something because it's,
you're like,
I don't know how to not dig it into the middle of this side of this heel.
Like so like,
and how do I not do that?
They're like,
oh,
you open the face up a little bit.
Like you do,
use the bounce.
You're like,
I don't even know how to look up what bounce means.
I don't know what it means.
Explain it to me like I'm five years old because that's how I mean.
I've looked up 50 times.
I still don't know what bounce means.
I just get a lot of it.
I just try to get the most I can get of it.
That's what I should have.
There is the untrunkable.
There's a time, like, Kisner told Frankie, I think,
like, the club needs to be moving the fastest right at impact of the ball or something.
And it was like, you might as well told Frankie to, like, create a rocket that could put the man on the moon.
And he was just, like, standing over the point, like, who is like, my neck swing was legitimately slow.
like an amusement park ride and even slow right here.
And then I tried to flick my wrist.
I'm like, is that correct?
And he just walked away from it.
And then the last thing I always say is,
just don't think about it.
Just clear your mind.
It's like,
but you just told me 50 things to think about.
You're like the roller coaster that just shoots out.
You know, the one that doesn't go slow.
It's like, when you sit down,
it's like, oh, you just do that.
Am I doing this right?
And you hit one good shot and it's like,
and then, yeah,
It's tough to get lessons from those guys.
And you've got to find a guy.
Like, lessons are something that people, if they ever get into it,
it's worth the lessons.
It's worth to spend the money to go do that.
And you can find lessons.
You know, I always say if golf was your thing,
you could join a club.
There's plenty of clubs that you could, for $300 a month,
like be a member somewhere and go play every day.
If you were obsessed with it, it's, you know,
And you got to be upset.
You got to kind of be obsessed with it.
And you have to, I think about it, man, I think, like, I'll go to bed.
I'll think about, if I'm playing a weird course the next day, I'll think about the first
hole, like, what I'm going to do.
Like, oh, yeah.
You know, I played Pine Nurse once at, I played two and eight.
Or no, two and four.
Okay.
And, but I, like, now that I'm better, you know, when I played it there, you know,
I was probably like an eight.
And so now I definitely, I want to go back.
We've actually been talking about going with Shay and all of us, like, going out somewhere, which made fighters.
He has got to do a trip.
I think Shay mentioned that.
He's like, man, we've been, like, looking at destination.
It's how we got stuck on Branson.
We said we were going to hashtag blow up Branson, which was a bad.
It was a tough tagline.
Yeah, Branson apparently's got some good golf nowadays.
But, but, yeah, the trip.
Byers, man, it is, like, it's that thought of, like, going to bed and thinking about that first shot, like, how you're going to try to hit that T shot.
Like that is when you know you've got the bug.
When it like, you wake up for breakfast.
They're like, do you want like scramble days or you're like,
I just want to hit that fucking cut down the left side?
Like I've been thinking about all night.
Like that's the only thing I want to do.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's it.
And it's, and that's when you get good and when you start knowing where your ball is going to go,
too, that's like a, you know, when you get over.
I've learned to like, I club up a lot more now than I ever did, you know,
because you just learned that like, all right, I'm not trying to, you know.
you start seeing that your numbers are better than, you know, whatever some numbers are.
Because you think, because you start playing with good guys, too.
I mean, they're hitting a nine iron 160 or something.
And you're like, all right, like, you know.
And then you're like, I guess I'll do my eight.
Like it's like, you just kind of go, I'm just thinking I'm one club off of you.
And you're like, I did you two clubs off.
Like, you got to learn to like when you get it over the ball.
I try to tell myself if I'm comfortable.
Sometimes I am comfortable, like trying to get on a seven.
but sometimes go to a six.
I'm not comfortable with the seven,
and I need to go and, you know,
and you just try to make yourself right for you hit the shot
to be like, what's the most comfortable?
Like, you're like, oh, I feel good now hitting this.
And you try to do that.
I've had bad putting.
I mean, I've been to do three-foot putts.
No one gives me putts,
because I've just laid a track record of the,
I miss them.
I mean, not three-foot, three-foot.
I'd lag up there and just hope it's got to have.
What I'm on, man?
One foot.
I just can't wrap my head around it, dude.
I get over it and just everything looks confusing.
And I just, I started, I did it one, Mike Yisholmski putts.
He looks at the hole.
You know, like speed you used to do.
He does it.
If it's a hundred foot putt, if it's a foot foot putt, he looks at the hole.
And so I did that one round.
I mean, you're just like, I'm just trying, I'm just looking at the hole.
Like, I would try.
If you told me to look forward and I put it, I would say, all right, I'll do that.
Like, you know, I'll try, whatever.
I've never understood this like you're talking about Augustine like of the like oh yeah like your
misses it's all about like your misses like yeah you got to like nowhere to miss and I'm honestly
that doesn't make sense like how would I know where to I'm just trying to like like no I'm trying to
hit it to a spot why would I be trying to miss in a spot like I'm trying to hit it to the right spot I don't
how could I imagine being so precise imagine so precise that like if you miss it's still on the green
yeah right like I don't get that I understand you're missing you're
I'm like, no, like, if I understood my misses, I just wouldn't miss.
Like, I would just fucking hit it, right?
Well, he's like, leave it over there.
They, so he, I played a course with Augustine that he's never played.
And so if you can ever go play with a guy that's either, obviously, at that level, a pro,
or if you play with someone that's even scratched.
Very fun to play with them when they don't know a course.
You can almost appreciate, like, you know, like, when y'all play with kids there at, like,
high nurse, he knows where to go.
He knows where to hit it.
He's played that course a million times.
but if you played him, of course, he's never known,
and then you get to see them go,
they always ask, they go, so where am I supposed to go?
And you're like, you aim there, like, towards that house.
He's like, where can I miss?
And you're like, you can miss right.
And that's all they want to know.
And you almost appreciate their game more when they don't know where,
they're just completely trusting on a guy telling them where to hit it.
Because then you see them hit it to that spot,
and you're like, good night.
You almost realize how much better they are than, you know, like Pioneers,
not that you don't see how much better they are,
But it's like they know what they're doing.
So you're not getting to see when you,
when you're able to like go hit towards that cart and then they hit it.
But I learned like today, I mean, some holes I was like,
where's the miss on this?
He's like, well, there's not really a miss.
And I'm like, well, there's got to be.
Can't tell me that there's been misses and this hole doesn't have a miss because I don't know what to do.
But it's just where you want to be like, you know you can't go left.
Like if it's out of bounds, trees, water, or you're going to get stuck over there.
And I had a one of them was a part five.
I had him and I had a pitching wedge into it and I missed left. He's like you just can't miss there.
And because it was like the chip. The chip up was like you it's really impossible to get the ball
close. So you can't really get it up and down. And so you got to just get yourself on the green.
So they think about, I think it's like they think of that stuff. I'm still figuring it out.
But it's, you know, it's basically being like there's water on the left. You're fine. You know,
if you go to a hole, maybe there's no water, but there's a bunch of trees on the left and the right is like another fairway.
So obvious, you could slice it and you're probably fine, but you can't hook it into those trees.
You're still fine in your ball, but you're never getting out of those trees.
So you can just rip it that way.
And I think that's what the, you know, but like we're definitely not the guys that should be talking about.
Like some guys at home riding this stuff down, like, oh, is that how you get into it?
No, dude, go watch YouTube videos.
Like, don't listen to that.
It also goes exactly against what, like, Alphonseo-Rabreau, who came on our show said,
where he's like, don't think of anything aside from what you want to do, right?
Positive thoughts only.
Like, if you see water, you just think, you just don't even look at the water.
You just think fairway.
So, like, for me, it's almost obviously of, like, what these pros are doing.
They want to know where their misses are.
So they know what their bad shot is.
Like, you know, it's like when my missed shot, I don't know if I can tell you what my shot is wrong.
You know, like, if I don't do something wrong, you're like, I mean, maybe it goes,
I would tend to when I do draws, they hook too much, but they can also go way out right.
Like, that guy could pop up.
Like, you're like, there's a few different things that can pop up.
So it's like, they know, they just know, like, what they're, like, if they hit one bad,
they know, like, all right, I'm going to leave it out.
You know, when you see them working on something, like, I've watched, like, and I watch,
I get sucked into YouTube videos at night.
And I was doing it for putting.
And I got down.
Dude, I found a video where it had.
50 views.
And like 50, you know, I mean,
there's the dark place, man.
There's probably a blank screen that has more
views than that dark. And I, I'm
watching a guy just talking in his office about
transition, transition and putting.
And I'm like, I'm listening to this.
I don't know if this guy's good.
And I'm like, I'm just like sitting there watching.
No one trusts that guy.
No one trust that guy.
YouTube doesn't even trust him.
They actually blackballed him into some corner of YouTube.
YouTube doesn't trust.
You're just kidding.
captivated next to your screen.
Like, what does this guy got?
We've, uh,
Shay,
she's convinced that he's,
he could be a side saddle putter.
He thinks he's better that way.
And have you ever seen Juan Putt?
Like J-U-A-N putt?
Like it's,
and it's like one,
and it's a one-Pudtut.
It's a side-saddle video.
One of the best videos are,
the dude made a video.
And, uh,
Jason,
they actually knew the guy.
And he's,
he's like,
it's his daughter.
I think it's his daughter sings the song in the video.
And it's like,
put and it's a side saddle putter and he just makes the whole video.
It's great.
I just said that to Shay because that's what Shay wants.
He's like, I'm pretty good side saddle, man.
I think I should do.
He's like, I think I should just be standing side of the ball.
And like if you can get over the, that's like Will Chamberlain, like they told him to shoot through his legs like granny style free throws.
It's like if you can side saddle, you're like, I mean, if you can do it and not.
I mean, that's confident to do it and not get looks.
You're fine with those looks.
Go for it.
Yeah, because, like, you better be making puts if you're an asshole standing on the side of the
ball.
Like, you better make it.
That was our thing with Bryson.
Bryson did that for a little bit.
We're like, you better be making those puts.
Right.
Yeah, you better be unreal, dude.
You better be like, where the other group, you see them try it afterwards.
Like, you're that good.
They're like, hey, maybe I should give this a go.
Like, you're definitely.
need to be that good.
Because Shea has that confidence, though.
Shea is very, he's very positive.
I mean, for every shot, it's like, this is about to go in.
He just knows.
I mean, and that is something that you're, like, that's probably why he does do,
he plays, you know, he shoots what he shoots being so new to golf.
It's because he just is like, I'm about to rip this one.
And, like, he just knows, you know, where I go on, and, you know, you're like,
just don't, just don't be a nightmare.
Like, you know, you just want the ball.
you're like just don't be a train wreck and be an athlete one time just one time just one time
center of the face just see what that feels like and they just don't be a problem and they just
yank one i've seen guys i mean bad golf shots there's nothing better i play with one of my buddies
and he had won a driver right like straight like straight that way and uh i mean to this day it's
one the worst shots ever seen well that's the big bet on the on the first tee box when you're like
playing with new guys and you're like who's going to go first it's like no you go first and as soon as
someone shanks one it like eases the tension but if you're the last guy up and everybody hits good
balls like the pressure is even mounted so it's this like interesting bet on a first debaq
where you want to be and how you want to hit it do you know that's not a rule you know like the
going first like in the pros like that's not a rule like they don't like the honors it's like you
don't have to go first I found out this from the call I always thought they had to go like
if you birdie a hole in the guy parts it you have to go
first. It's not a rule. It's just, it's what it is. It's an honors thing. But like, so Tiger on
18 of the Masters is like, now go ahead. The guy can go if he, you know, really? They do it. I thought
it was a rule. They do it in college a lot because college golfers won't know. Pros know. They know what
you're doing. And it doesn't really matter if it's like a par four, but like a par three where they don't
know what the wind's going to do. A lot of good college golfers, they'll be like, go ahead. I got to get
something out my bag. And like a guy that's not as good, they'll be like, okay. And he'll just go,
even though the other guy was supposed to go first. And then they let him go because they want to
see like. Yeah. And so it's like, but the guys that are good are like, no, no, I'll wait. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Get your stuff out of your back. I'm not everywhere.
Well, Brooks told us that about like 12 at Augusta and stuff that, like you got to watch guys because
that wind can push the ball any way.
And, like, you don't know until you step up to the ball.
You know, the cadet can tell you one thing, but you have no idea until you watch someone
hit it.
Tiger, like, Tiger talked about watching, like, watching and seeing that Brooks hit it in the
water.
It was like, I knew that he hit a good shot and that he flights it better than I do.
So I knew that, like, he hit a nine iron.
I knew I had to fucking pipe a nine iron because Brooks has went in the water.
It's like, yeah, on that level, they can learn that much.
Whereas, like, Franky's teeing off.
Like, I'm not even watching them on my phone.
Like, I don't know what's going on.
Well, that's the experience, too, coming up like 11.
I'm sure Tiger's looking over there and, like, looking for balls and ball flight
and what wind does.
And, like, if you're a new guy at playing Augusta, you're just, like, solo focus on, like,
how can I somehow make Paul here?
Yeah.
I like when you play it, you get a reed.
You're playing a scramble, and the first guy tries to give you a read, and he's terrible.
And then you just pound it.
And you're like, well, that was pointless.
Like, that was, you're, like, we're worst off.
It doesn't break like I thought, boys.
Like, dude, you hit it 20 feet.
Yeah.
Seems straight to me.
You're like, yeah, anything would be straight.
Yeah.
Putted that on a NASCAR track, it'd be straight.
You just fired a pole of a hole in break.
Zero confidence.
It's the ultimate, like, sorry, boys.
When you, like, you hit that one, you just know it's not the right line.
You just say sorry to the guy that was waiting on you.
It's just brutal.
It's the least being an athlete moment.
I didn't, I saw, I was falling along a little bit when y'all played Kisner.
But I didn't, who did y'all have the,
Same putting order the whole time?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
It changed a little bit once or twice, but for the most part, it was me than Trent.
And then, uh, me and then, right.
Yeah.
But our hitting.
I didn't use one, we didn't use one of my puts, all 18 holes.
Really?
Is that true?
Yeah.
Because like either Trent or Ray or Lurch drilled theirs and then whenever it came up to me,
I just missed.
You hit good drives, though.
You can trigger.
Yeah.
A couple of 285 yarders down the middle.
He did.
Yeah, it was tough.
I mean, it was a tough day around the greens.
There's no debate in that.
Nate, just real quick, because you're, I know Trent and Riggs and Lurch, we're all huge fans.
You meet specifically.
I think you're like my favorite comedian of all time.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I don't want to get, pump your time.
No, I love it.
That's all.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
So has like, has the coronavirus, like, like, be doing the same thing every day,
going to the golf course every day?
Is that taking you off, like, your grind of, like, because you have jokes of,
of all walks of your life, right?
Going into Starbucks and going with your buddies wherever or your wife and stuff like that.
Like you're living the same day every day right now.
Has that like throwing you off your writing or and making your jokes or has it helped you do new stuff?
It's definitely like I've done a show.
I've done a few shows now.
Zanies and the Nashville are local club opened.
So I did shows last weekend.
I luckily had, so I was hoping to take a special another special this fall.
And so I luckily kind of had.
add my new hour and I maybe needed a couple more things.
So I was kind of good to go.
So it's not like I was like really searching.
Like when I got to come up a new material, I get very like I just kind of get open.
Like I'm in a search mode of trying to find stuff.
Like you know, I go do stuff.
You go like, you know, go to Starbucks, go to Cape Fear,
serpentry, go to weird things.
Like whatever you can do to like try to find stuff.
So I get in a very open-minded search trying to find material.
So luckily, this one, I already kind of had it.
And, you know, I've kind of, I've thought of some stuff.
Like, I always did I do a special.
I would probably address some of this COVID stuff somewhat.
I'm not a guy that's really too topical, but I would address it some.
But it's definitely, like right now, I mean, I feel very shut off.
Like, my brain feels shut off as far as coming up with stuff.
If something happened crazy, I would see it and know it and, like, try to use it.
But, I mean, like, you know, I talk about golf.
in my special, but I can't talk about like this kind of stuff.
Right, right.
I have one golf thing in my new hour,
but it's like something that anybody could do.
Like you can't get too, too into like, you know, golf humor.
Like, I mean, that's why like golf memes are my favorite,
because they're just so specific.
So they're so funny to me because they're, you know,
it's just, it's like you got to just play to know how funny that is.
But so like I'm, you know,
I'm hoping to gear back up and I got to like when I did the Zaney show I started saying all these jokes
again and started you know you just got to get back into the rhythm I mean it's it's like a song like
you know you know what you say you know the order you say it I was doing I did so many shows up to
when this happened so I felt good and then I'm hopefully going to get a start back up and uh do some
either some clubs or do something so then I'm ready to go and then hopefully get a tape this special
because I'm getting kind of I want to be done with this hour and then I can start you know like until you get it on something and it's and it's taped it's recorded it's you know your brain like then it turns into like a big search to get new material and then you feel like rushed to find stuff and then you go I've never been like a sit down and write like I've never just I don't go up and like sit and write on my computer I just kind of keep notes and go out through the day and try to do very
you know, whatever things that would be relatable to everybody else.
Right, because your style is more about cadence and delivery and stuff.
I mean, for me watching it, it's like it's stuff that like we can all experience in real
life, but it's also just the way you deliver it.
And so, yeah, I would assume that getting back into that groom is almost, you know,
you have to work at it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, now I could have like family stuff come up.
Like so you have new stuff.
It'd be like wife, daughter, you know, like that, those kind of stuff.
but yeah you got to get back into like getting out and being out being around people
and seeing people and seeing this guy and this guy you know I'm sure once I do that if I get
when I get fly again like you could have you could see the way people react during that stuff
and so yeah you got to be just very aware and so yeah I definitely got to get back I had nothing's coming
out of this like you know it's like I've golfed and I've golfed every day like right
it's been the only day my birthday was during right when this happened
on March 25th, and our course only shut down on my birthday.
They only, I was the only day of the quarantine.
I was very, like, you know, people were like,
oh, you're God, because California shut down.
You know, you can't do anything there.
And they, so they shut down golf, but I did it.
Like, with golf, I was like, how are you shutting down?
Like golf is like the most, it's a sport that's built for this pandemic.
Like, you can't, you never, six, someone's swinging a club.
You can't be within six feet of a guy and like all this stuff.
So it was perfect for that this happened for, you know, for the golf.
I mean, golf was rooting for something like this to come along.
You know, they probably started it.
We get down the bottom of that.
PGA started Corona, you know.
Have you heard it on the course, any of those brutal coronavirus jokes where like you hit
one left and like social distancing, it makes me want to throw up?
Have you ever said anything like that to you?
makes me.
Yeah, yeah, they just do that.
They did, you know, I'll fall.
I'll do someone.
Like, if someone actually knocks one off to tea,
I love saying that's one.
It's not a, I mean, it's an old hack.
People could get furious.
It's definitely not a.
Yeah, you're like, don't say it.
Don't say it.
You're like, no.
That's funny.
I love it.
I love it every time going one.
Like, it's nothing funnier than me.
And if, because if you made a guy count it,
that would even be better if you're like,
I don't got to, you know,
I love doing it.
and not gimmies.
You ask them to Mark a ball.
They're close.
Those are always.
The best one, there's a guy, because you play with guys,
because I'll play in, like, these celebrity events, and they, and so you, you know,
they expect you to be super funny.
And I just try to tell stories.
Because I'm, like, I'm not as funny as, like, there's guys on a golf course that
are super funny, man.
They say just little stuff that there's one guy, play with it.
He always, like, when you hit a put and you read it wrong, and he was like, oh, that reminds
of me of my first grade teacher, Miss Reed.
He just says it.
it like kind of under his breath as he walks by you.
And it's like a very funny like,
it's great.
I mean,
it only works there,
but it's so good.
It's such a funny,
stupid.
And so you're like,
I'm not going to be funny with that guy.
Like,
you're like out here.
Like,
that guy's super funny.
That's so fucking funny.
Frankie loves that one.
Frankie's going to,
you're going to give that to your dad.
Oh,
my dad's using that tomorrow.
Yeah.
Tomorrow.
You're like the other one to say you walk by the guy.
Are you lag up?
up like when you hit like a two putt in like a short two putt and you miss he's like it's a good lag up
there like you know good safe play i'm sure we're coming to the end of this and i can't let you leave
without talking about the fact that you played at trent ryan's hometown simulator in like
where was it demoian iowa cedar rafin no no right before the pandemic hit you did a show in cedar
rapids which is where i'm from originally i live in new york now but you went and played a simulator
at st andrews which is the course that i grew up on and i just couldn't believe that you were
there it was insane oh yeah
They have a whole row of them.
Yeah, they do.
It was, we were, so we, I'm not trying to play everywhere I go.
And, uh, there, and so we went in there and we just, like, looked up places.
And we were going to try to play, but it was, it was kind of this stuff was all kind of happening.
Uh, and it was very nice that day in Cedar Rapids.
So everybody was kind of, that course was kind of packed.
And, but they had those simulators and I was like, oh, we're just go play.
We'll just do that.
And so we went there and played that.
That place was great.
They were super nice to us and set it up.
up. I ended up kicking, because another very funny comic, Gary Veder,
he had a great, he just had a story come out in Sports Illustrated. He, his dad, like,
when he grew up, he grew up in New York, and they would go to basketball games.
And he met, he's met Jordan, Gretzky, he's been to all these crazy games. It's an article
on Sports Illustrated.com. And his dad would say he's a maker, like, no, not making,
I'm sorry, he's a sports illustrator for kids. He would say he's, like, one of the journalists,
and he would just lie about it. And they never checked his, I'd,
And he was at like the double nickel game with Jordan.
And then they would go in the locker room with his dad was like a scam artist.
And he just would go to everything because his dad would just be like, yeah.
And then he would just have his dumb little like camera or something.
And he's four-tile straight for kids.
He, Veter, Gary played with us there.
But I mean, I was like, they were so bad that I was just trying to see.
He made it like two holes.
And I was like, that's, that's probably enough.
I just cut him off.
I'm like, and then my other buddy that I play with, Travis, that I grew up with him.
And he's okay, but he's another one.
I mean, he made it to 11.
And I was like, I think, I think we're good.
And I just finished it out on my own.
I was like, well, yeah, we do have a show tonight.
And I can't watch you hit the roof with your driver.
Like with the ball.
He just pops the ball straight up and like it's a flop shot.
So are you cutting your ball?
buddy's off. So you're saying that's enough? I cut them off. I say that's enough. And I called the guy
that owned it over. I was like, could you take them off the thing so I can finish? And I was
like, Gary made it, I think, two holes. And I was like, that's good, man. And then, uh, I was like,
you get, you get it. You get it. You get it. It's like, you get it off. When you put it through
the hole and then the ball's gone. It's literally just like mini golf. You just set it up so he only
gets to play two holes, puts it in a hole. Balls just go. Yeah, just drop with me.
Yeah, you know. That was the other surreal part. I did.
knew the guy that you called over. That's like my buddy's like, what the hell is going on?
It was just so, it was so strange.
We talk about that place all the time. Yeah, he got a whole one day. And we don't think it's
like a real place. We're like St. Andrews in Iowa. What are you talking about? And then you just
pop up at this place. It was so funny. You've been telling you the best place ever. Can I tell us,
are you all of time? No. No. I've been walking on this. I'll tell you one.
All day. My best golf story. You aren't I'm recording anymore. I just see y'all start walking away.
Hey guys, you all still?
My funnest, my best golf experience I've had,
I have a course record at a course.
And it's Pete, it's Pete Dye's last course that he ever made
before he passed away, which he was 90-something, 92.
So the guy, this is all, this will be a very braggy story.
So I've become friends with Eric Stone Street.
And Eric Stone Street is obviously super,
famous, so he's friends with everybody. And he's good friends with the owner of the Dodgers, Mark Walter.
Mark Walter, like, right out of the jack, there's a conservation. Mark Walter is really into,
like, saving rhinos and animals. And so he has a conservation in Florida at White Oaks Conservation.
It's an amazing place that raised, he's real big in, like, poaching and trying to stop all that
stuff. There's a nine-hole course on there. It used to be, like, in the 60s and 70s. This guy bought it,
and A's in, like the Clintons used to go.
It was this very private thing.
Then Mark Walter bought it from him and now it's this conservation.
And so he has a nine hole course, and he has a new course that he built.
And he had Pete Dye design it.
It's Pete Dye's last course he ever designed.
Nobody's played it.
I have the course record of 93.
Nobody, yes.
And I text the pro, there's a golf pro there,
and he's got a bummed shoulder so he can't play.
So they run it as if it's about to be played every day.
It's kept up.
And he used it.
I mean,
the guy that owns the Dodgers,
obviously,
a billionaire.
And so he's using this course
is he would eventually use it,
I think,
as like,
he just likes it being,
like,
he wants some,
like,
it's just,
no one can play this course.
You can't play it without.
And I went to New Year's Eve at there,
uh,
and with Eric.
And so we got to play it.
And I played it like five times.
And I would,
you would pull up.
I mean,
they're,
it's the only course I've ever played.
They were making,
they're like,
they're cutting the grass for you.
Like,
they put the pin placements
for me. I played it one day. You go to the range, you're just by yourself and balls are set up.
And they were just so excited to have someone coming out there because no one plays it.
And I text the pro, I still, like, I'm like, has anybody in my record still up there?
93 is going to get beat so quickly. And I just try to like, man, he's like, you're still,
you're still the course record holder. And it's the, I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. It would be a top 25 course in the country.
if anybody even knew about it.
No one knows.
If anybody ever says they played it,
they played,
there's a nine hole that people can get on,
but this one,
this 18,
no one can get on.
And like,
it's to play a course
that no one's ever played is unreal.
I mean,
like when you find a ball,
it's your ball.
It's not another ball.
Like,
it's,
you're like,
that's yours.
And so it was like the most,
the most amazing experience
I've ever had golfing,
just doing that.
You just by yourself.
It's remarkable.
I've heard of anything like that in my life.
And you've got a course record.
I mean, to have it like a course record, a whole and one is like that can happen.
You can never have a course record.
You just can't.
Like there's just too many good, no matter how good you get, you never have a course record.
And so to have one and to be able to say I have a course record, to be 93.
You wouldn't be the only course record in the 90s in the world.
I mean, in the world.
I mean, in the history.
I mean, like, yeah.
You're the highest course record.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody has that. And it will get blown out because he's, obviously, some pros will end up getting to go out there.
I mean, just, I don't know, are just the regular guy that's decent. We'll go out there.
Yeah, just a 10 handicap. We'll do it.
That, that pros, shoulder's going to heal up and he's going to knock my course record out.
That's the best part. You got this pros then, he's got a bum shoulder. He just can't be here right now.
Yeah, it's some unbelievable experience. Imagine you just get some average Joe rolls in there, shoots like 87, and they come.
comes back in. They're like, oh, that's the course record.
He's going to be a, what?
Oh, God. What was it? 93.
I'll be, I'll be furious.
If they let it break for an 87, I will be so mad.
I want to keep it 93.
Oh, man. All right, Nate.
Well, this was a blast.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, obviously, big, big, big fan.
And what do you guys are doing golf?
No one's doing. No one's talking to the players like the way you talk.
No one makes the sport to see how.
fun and normal all these golfers are.
And so you guys are doing amazing and you're the only one's doing it.
I mean, and that's what's, that I know, I'm sure maybe there's other, but.
I don't talk about you.
Yeah.
But you guys are crushing and I love how much y'all love it and I love it.
And yeah, I want to play with all of you.
So let's all get together and go.
Yeah.
When we get the bus, we're coming, Virginia and Pioneers.
I still so confused on why you're still there.
I don't know.
Why the fuck would I go back to New York City?
Have you seen what's going on?
92 days he's been down there.
Ninety-two days.
Look at track.
I'm in New York City.
There's nothing going on here.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
I mean, I think you should just live there, dude.
Hey, we're all going to be there next week, so maybe you make a trip up.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
You are playing all next week?
All right, I'll see.
I'll see if I can go.
Because we've been talking about trying to get, because we have tour buses that we had a
add a tour bus for my tour that just sits now.
So, and check it in,
pack it in, come down, go pound it out.
All right, yeah, we're figure it out.
All right.
We appreciate it, man.
This was fun.
People should check out your special,
and we got to get to a show.
I want to come to the show.
I see in Red Bank.
You're playing at the Count Basie?
That's where I was when it canceled.
That's where it all went down.
Oh, no way.
Yeah, Red Bank was the show I was at that we had to cancel like three hours before
because they were like, are you sure?
And I was like, dude, the NBA came.
Like, I was like, you know, I was like, I don't know.
going on. They did his show the week before.
They were like, Tony Bennett did his show.
You're like, yeah, you should have definitely never let him do a show.
He's extremely, I mean, in his audience, you're like, how did these guys not all
die?
You're like, you could have never let that happen.
Like, you're like, that's the worst group to come out to a show.
Like, are you out of your mind?
Like, once they said that, Tony Bennett still did his show.
Yeah, you should have cut it off, dude.
Tell him no.
He doesn't even know what's going on.
Put him in a room and just have him seen.
Come on.
I'm in Red Bank right now.
As I talk to you, I'm in Red Bank.
I'm a mile from the Count Basie.
We were there.
We walked around that whole town.
Yeah, I'll be in Red Bank.
Y'all come out to Red Bank and we'll get you all to the show.
That's close to Newark.
You know, it's not that bad of a deal.
Now, you are all welcome.
I'd love to come.
And yeah, I'll talk to Shay.
We'll figure out if we can come.
If not there, we will come meet y'all and come play somewhere.
Yeah, awesome.
Good. All right, brother.
Thanks again, man.
Thanks a good, man.
Thank you.
Good to meet you.
