Fore Play - The Lido, and The High School Dance Grind Line?

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

A hell of a show. We react to playing The Lido, discuss the upcoming Ryder Cup, and reminisce about high school glory days including “grind lines,” parties, curfew, famous alumni, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knites it across the green.

Bro, 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we were you going to go. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are saying a hobby? Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports. We are still in Wisconsin. We got myself, Dan, Frankie, and Trent. We just played Delito, which is going to dominate a lot of this conversation. We had a ton of chatter leading up to it. The history, Long Island, Frankie, the entire deal. We just finished playing it.

I will say that just walking golf courses in general is underratedly exhausted. Our feet are all sore. I think everyone is just pretty beat up from walking like three rounds of golf. Yeah. I'm exhausted. Yeah. If we didn't have the, and this is going to sound like an ad and in some ways it is, but we have these new G4 shoes on, they're nice.

G112s. If we didn't have these, I don't know that I would have survived because my feet are sore. We walked a very hard golf course today, hard and difficulty, hard and legitimate softness and heart like it was actually tough ground um and my toes hurt i don't know why i started walking on my toes today just i guess to like i don't know you're focusing on your toes and you know i don't know if it was just like my heel was hurting from walking all the last couple days and i just like moved my weight onto my toes but my toes were burning at the end of that round today we can get into the round phenomenal stuff phenomenal stuff the leito yeah i mean you loved it we all loved it but i think it

vaulted into my top five of all time. Because you, I mean, we talked a little bit during the video today, but you've been talking about this golf course for five years. Here's the thing that you have to remember about this course. CB McDonald, 1910s or 20s, whatever it ends up being. We have all the history in the video that's going to be coming out. If that golf course at that time didn't get overtaken by a naval yard and like a landing strip and all the things that happened to it in Long Beach on Long Island, right by the Borelli's

tap room, new spot. Make sure you go check it out. If that never happened. the Lido on Long Island would have been and was at the time known as a top five golf course in the world, I think. It was like Augusta, Cyprus, Pine Valley, and the Lido. All the architects, they all got hard on this CB McDonald golf course on Long Island. He got to do whatever he wanted. They just gave him a bunch of sand, a bunch of land, and he's like, I'm going to go crazy at this place.

And it's going to be my greatest creation. They called it like the world's best lost golf course or something like that. So now... And then the war happened. Then the war happened. So now when you're playing that golf course today... The planet was at war. If that course just stayed...

The world. If that course just stayed where it was and didn't have all that things happened to it, the course we played today is essentially a recreation of a top five golf course in the world. And it's to the exact specs. Yeah. There was like one or two things that weren't... But they made a note to tell you that they had changed it. Like there was one where we were walking by and he was like the green...

was on the right side and he's like actually the green would have been closer it would have been so they had like a little plateau just right of the fairway to show you where the green would have been so yeah I mean it's they did this with science it was this wasn't just like eyeballing it and being like okay like this looks like a dog like left was like they went into the topography and made sure that like all of the all of the scaling was correct so much so they used AI robotic bulldozers and like excavators that blew me away that blew me away they legitimately would send these robotic excavators in there and it would just shave into these mounds exactly to the 10th like centimeter the exact topography of the original lito it's kind of a feat of engineering

and you know architecture just as much as it is we played a 100 year old golf course today that just opened in June that's yeah and it felt that way too like having you know I've played a number of those old McDonald courses and it has that same feel with like do you have a farm what did you say old McDonald had a lot That was good Yeah A child nursery But with like the

Behind the green And like the vertical drop-offs Into the bunkers Where the ball gets like hung up Like you know You can have those crazy uphill lives And the Fescue Fairways It just it felt very old

And I think We were talking in our group That it was like It feels like a different Resort almost than Sand Valley And Mammoth Dunes Because it's a different You got to drive out

It's a different clubhouse it's way less dramatic. It's a lot flatter. You know, there aren't really trees involved. It just felt like its own entity, which I thought was a really cool change up from the last couple of days. Yeah, overall, very flat property that they made insanely interesting.

And as, you know, we kind of touched on a little bit today, we will in the video, but as guys that, you know, self-admiddily are not into architecture, golf course architecture at all, you know, even like kind of loop the people that are in with golf Twitter

and, like, snobbery around golf and what, there are instances where I think, even if you don't know shit about it, you can look at and be like, this, this artistry combined with, you know, the sport of golf on this giant canvas that's a golf course. Like, this matters. Like, this is really, really cool. What they did. It reminded me a little bit of tobacco road where it's like they just, there were some shots you hit where you're looking at it. Such a dramatic shot you have to hit. That is purely because the way they just designed it. It wasn't like that. It wasn't laying there. It was flat when it was laying there. And they, you know, CB. McGrath. Vahnold clearly designed it away where you've got to hit over this giant dune or you've got to this elevated crazy green that's got like a big punch bowl and doing that over and over again and walking onto a T where you're like this is a golf hole unlike any hole I've ever seen before. Yeah. It's rare.

It's like you don't get that in golf. And that's the artistry because there were holes yesterday at Mammoth Dunes, which is a much different, much more dramatic property where you're almost like, it almost looks like the, the hole was like kind of already there. Like it's going up and turns around a bunch of trees. They'd have to cut trees, but it looks much more built in where you were right. This was a blank canvas that they created all of those. Like that punch bowl was so cool.

And you can see just the top of the flag stick. And you know that they had the thumb pin, they had a, or Dan, there was an Alpshole, a long, I am a little nerdy on that stuff. And I was really leaned into it today. Could you see more places doing something like this? Not even like a Lido was the lost golf course. But let's say you get the topography of Augusta National. And you got a bunch of land and you got a resort open enough. Let's repeat it.

It's an interesting question. It's like an intellectual property question. Right. GPS those bulldozers, baby. Let's make an Augusta National in Michigan. I mean, there's never been a course that's been more documented than that one. That's right. So they have all the three, you know, that's actually a really interesting question.

Imagine turning golf courses into like chain restaurants. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's insane. You could play like Pebble Beach like four different places around the country. Think about that. You know, Augusta should license that golf course. around the world.

You put an Augusta in Dubai. It obviously takes away from it, right? In the thousand years from now, you're going to be mad that you did that because the history of the one place sucks. But I mean, you could charge $20,000. One TGI Fridays, I bet. Yeah.

They're like, what if we put these? There was one Buffalo Wild Wings. You could probably, if you put an Augusta National in, like, Dubai, you could probably charge like $25,000. Dude, and then if those people were like the McDonald's founder was, they could just eventually slowly trick the world to be like, no, we founded Augustine. This is the real Augustine.

Right. Like in 400 years, you get the raising Kane CEO to go to Augustine and talk to him about how they spread their entire like. Let's like about franchising. No, I mean, if it all takes is GPS bulldozers,

a bunch of land and a lot of money, you can put any golf course anyway. That's a good point. It's never going to happen, but I really like where your head's at. Yeah. That's really interesting. They got me thinking.

It's a good little, like, law hypothetical. And if you look at what they did at Whistling Straits, like Whistling Straits, like Whistling Straits was just a flat field. Yeah. And they created all of that at Whistling Straits. And if you look at what they did there and you look at what they did here at the Lito,

you're like, if they did find the same amount of land in Michigan, like you said, be like, all of three years. We're just going to move all of the dirt around and create Augusta National. It's just going to be Augustine National. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah. There's definitely some golf architects right now that are like pulling their hair out. Big time. I love it. I don't know if it's good or bad for them, but it would be significant. Chevrolet is a trusted brand with innovation and scale. Chevrolet has been trusted with transatlure. Transportation needs for the last 100 years.

Actually, I thought that said a thousand years at first. I was about to be like, wow. That would be a very, very long time. What were they been doing a thousand years ago? Right. Here's this. What was going on a thousand years ago? I have no idea.

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like we never see that like there weren't brands like people weren't building brands there definitely weren't like raising raising Keynes type situations yeah right right I think so like I just feel like whenever they recreate Rome or whatever in a movie or anything that we there's never logos Starbucks. Yeah, it's crazy. The only logo and this is not the same thing is, and I'm getting this from Game of Thrones, like the seal on an envelope. Yeah.

Yeah. You candle wax and you hit it like a lanister. Yeah, like crests, family crests. Yeah. And like flags of nations and such. Banners. Banners. Banners, I guess. But I feel like businesses didn't have like logos.

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Chevy.com slash electric, that brand. I've been doing it for a long time over 100 years. they're doing it in the EV games. Do yourself a favor. Go learn more at Chevy.com slash electric. That is Chevy.com slash electric. I was blown away at Toledo. I didn't really know what to expect. We've all played some courses that are like you hear about the

spirits and the template holes in a Redan and like, and you know, part of me has always thought like it's a little unoriginal that one of the more cherished things in golf course architecture is that they just copy holes all over the place, which is sort of what we're talking about. But there's like a Redan here and there's like, well, how come they just take holes like in Eden? Why do they just get to take holes that like people create the beginning and recreate them somewhere? And that's considered awesome. Today it was pretty fucking awesome.

It's like, well, the shot, I mean, not to spoil anything, but into the Redan, one of one of the people in your group. I mean, that's just such a rewarding shot. There's a reason it's been gone to over and over again. You know, you got to hit that little draw and it's got to land in the right spot. And if you go too far right, you'll still have a put. If you go too far left, like there's a reason that they work. they put you where it's a very clear shot that you have to hit but you're going to be nervous at the miss so i just think they're yeah it's a tried formula i can't even fathom that course

on the atlantic ocean no it's the only thing it was missing so here's the thing so i'm putting in my top five obviously i'm a big emotions guy every time i walk up a golf course i say it's the best thing of all time genuinely with the hype going into it the pGA tour 2k21 like the fact this guy built the golf course in the video game they took it they took all the specs from the video game gave them the idea to build this we had played the lito for years in pga tour 2k yeah playing it today in real life really blew me away um i will say that i leave there saying i don't know why they couldn't just do that where lito golf club is right now where the original leo was it's very similar and this has happened to me now twice in my life where two of my

this was one of my favorite golf courses and the New York Islanders are my favorite hockey team. They built a fantastic world, state-of-the-art, world-class arena, but they didn't do it where the Coliseum was. They did it 20 miles closer to the city and they did it in Belmont.

It drives me crazy. Like, why couldn't we just do it where it worked? You have a conundrum going out where you're like, they took our golf course that was in Long Island. And they moved it to Wisconsin. And they just moved to it. Now, like, I really like that golf course and I'll go back to it and I'll play it a lot,

but I wish it was fucking down the road. So sign up the Tuka guy and Bill Geron. I wish it was down the road where it originally was. I wish UBS Arena was at the Coliseum location. Everything that you love. The Coliseum location was incredible. Everything that you love is moving away from you. Just slightly away.

This is further, for sure. It's like a two and a half hour flight. I'm just, yeah. I think they have way less land now where the Lido Golf Club is because Lido is still a golf course. It's a public track. I played their growing up. up. I played there a lot growing up. It was a very special public golf course to go play with my dad because we were getting on the water. You hit you feel the salt hit your face. You're like, holy shit, we're not at Eisenhower anymore. This is pretty cool. Is it like a rundown version of the original? Or is it totally new? Yeah, I'd have to go back now that I've seen this. I'd have to go back and see if any of the routing is even similar. I mean, it doesn't look anything like this. But there are some fantastic holes at Lido Golf Club. There's some fantastic like split fairways around water where like you can go left. You can go right. But there's water right in the middle of it on a par five.

really cool stuff but it's just it's public it's not it's not what we saw today at all it's not that like Scottish style um what's your third favorite thing I don't know okay because I'd be concerned yeah I'm just I'm just looking out for you I don't know what my third favorite thing okay probably better not to probably better to not name it yeah it's gonna move away from move away from me yeah I was gonna say like pussy's I don't know just turn gay pussy's pretty good just turn gay I'm only saying that because Jersey is Jerry's said that yesterday we asked Joe someone asked George what's your favorite thing in the world just goes pussy it's incredible it's a good answer um yeah no so you don't have to think about it too

hard I was a joke I'm just no I'm just a little bit upset about the fact that we had that course and then you know a lot of things happened in the world and it kind of got messed up and it's here now Hitler screwed you hitler screwed us screw me too again he did that's son of a bitch he screwed me um we stayed in a place that was what was the name of our Airbnb? Eagles Nest. Eagles Nest, which is Hitler's cabin.

Really? He built like... Like a bunker. No, it wasn't a bunker. It was if you... There's like a documentary on YouTube about it. He built this very nice place that him and all his fucking generals and people would go to it with their families and hang out. And they call it the Eagles Nest.

But I think it's a pretty common terminology for a house. Well, my people were burning in ovens. They were doing that. Fuck that guy. We're anti-Hedler. We're an anti-Hitler podcast. I thought what was cool was the, so they have memberships to the Alito.

You can become a member. Yeah. But they said it's sort of, at least right now, it's sort of the like British, Scottish template where there are members, but they share the golf course with the public. Is it like an auction thing or not an auction?

Like do you get like a ticket in the morning or something to go play Lido? Or can you like book it in advance? You can book it. There's, I think it's Monday through Thursday. Like, it'd be cool if they did like the, you got to wake up and like sign up.

Yeah. Sort of like St. Andrews where like you just get in the lottery. I think it's, I think the resort guests can book it Monday through Thursday. There's a couple blocks of time. So, you know,

Saturday morning is going to be all members and some, you know, the weekend's going to be, but you can play it. So I think it's a cool. 10 to like one or something like that. Yeah, but it's a cool model because right.

All those golf courses that in, in, that they have the open championships at over in England and in Scotland, they're private in the sense of they have members, but you can play. There are certain areas that you can play. And I think that's a model that should become more common. That's a way better model than just close it up.

Nobody can come. Right. And there's these courses where there's just no play. And it's like there's no reason that you couldn't open it up besides the, you know, obviously everyone wants to keep their own place. I just think it was a cool model. Yeah. Not kidding.

If you have the urge or you want to tickle your fancy with that type of golf, the St. Andrews, the Carnusti, the Presswick type of golf, you have it right here in Wisconsin. I'm telling you, we've been to Scotland. I think I enjoyed that golf course today more than any course I played in Scotland. I think it was perfect. We talked a little bit about on the course rigs.

Ride me of Western Gales, big time. Couldn't agree more. It just doesn't have the surrounding views. It doesn't have the ocean. It doesn't have the old town that St. Andrews has. It just has trees because it's just built in the middle of nowhere in Wisconsin. That's the only thing that's tough. And I thought, like I think that,

I feel like we're experiencing what people have claimed for a long time but that's true that we didn't necessarily believe or buy into which is that like when you first get into golf and you're like I want a course with views baby that's pretty much it and you're kind of like that's going to trounce everything and it matters

views are fucking awesome but you also learn that like of course is really built in a really sick way by somebody that was talented with the vision and with the architecture and with all whatever the hell that all that is those intangibles, like a course can be better that has no views. Yeah.

That, of course, it just has views. I think we've all kind of like evolved in that. That's probably my number one non-view golf course ever played. Yeah. Because I still think Payne's value has views. I still think Shinnecock in its own way has views. You can see the whole entire golf course. Yeah.

The iconic like Shinnecock, um, fescue like you can just see it the whole entire way up to the clubhouse. I think that still constitutes as a view today. When you were on your hole, you were on your hole, maybe like a, you know, the first and the ninth kind of combined and you could see two at a time. But you felt like each hole was its own thing. I wouldn't say that there were views out there at all. No. No.

Like at all. Kind of created its own like really cool intimate views with like the little canals. Yeah. That are around and they're missing the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. Yeah. And the channel. That's why I'm saying.

I don't think they could do it where Long Island, where the Long Island one is right now because it's in such a tighter. spot. If they're telling me that this Lido golf club that we played today went all the way to the Atlantic Ocean, right now in that same spot is Marvell ice cream, which I brought Trent to the other day. Delicious. Soft served ice cream, absolute legendary ice cream spot. Like, the Lido in Long Island doesn't even go across the street where all the houses are on the ocean. So you would have to overtake all that. That's the problem is you have to basically buy up like a whole town. You have to buy up, yeah, the whole entire street of just houses, condos, restaurants, ice cream.

Can't get rid of Marville at this point. Can't get rid of Marville. Phenomenal. Really good. Everyone else got small. I got a medium. So we opened up this tab room in Long Beach and I try and keep an eye on my dad. He's working a lot.

He stresses out and he's stress eats. He's picking at the dough. He's picking at bread all day. He's eating pizza at the restaurant. He's been doing it for 60 years. And he started, we always used to go to Marvell and we went down in Long Beach and I was like dad, now that you have this tap room and you're always there, you cannot keep stopping at Marville and having ice cream every single night.

It's not like, you can't end a stressful day with a huge thing of pistachio ice cream and peanuts, which he gets on it. Yes, he can, Mr. Brilly. And one day, one day I'm there, uh,

me and Hannah, they were sitting down and, and, you know, it's like a Friday night and we were going to get out of there early and he's like getting out of there early. It's like 10 o'clock. And he goes,

where are you going? I'm like, well, we're just going to go home. He goes, you're not stopping to Marvell. I said, nope,

neither are you. He goes, okay, I won't. So we're driving down. It's like five minutes away. And I'm like, fuck, I'm pulling to Marvell. He'd be fucking crazy. I'm 20.

I can eat this ice cream. It's fine. And I pull in. I'm like, there's no way he's going to see me. So we look around. He went to my knowledge. He went home. So I'm like all happy.

I turned the corner of Marvell and who's at the fucking counter? My dad. And he's got the biggest fucking smile on his face there. Handed him at the sash already. I don't even know how he got around me. I left 10 minutes before him. And he's sitting there. He just eats the ice cream going.

He goes, good night. He just walks away. He's just eating there every single night. That's fine. No, we got to stop it. Lido's great. It is great. But you can't get rid of Marville.

No, never. One of the coolest courses I've ever put. It really is. I mean, firm as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. But I was saying like I, like don't you think like a like a tiger woods or an elite elite

golfer would love to play that place today and like be able to shape their shots around and hit the front of the green and really show how creative you can be as opposed to just playing target, just fucking plop. zip it back and just make a birdie golf they reminded me like Royal Melbourne when they were there for the President's Cup where you like going in they were like these guys get to showcase their artistry a little bit with a golf ball

and that was when Tiger was like the best he's ever played yeah and even though he only played what he only went playing three matches instead of five everybody went nuts for that but when he was hitting these little pitches from 40 yards that landed way short and like took the hill and he was flighting him and he was hitting high draws and high cuts

I think you're right I think it was like his his brain and his ability to move the ball, which he bitches a lot about how equipment's taken that away and that like guys now are all able to kind of be bunched together because the technology allows you to just hit it straight. Where there he was able to kind of open it up in order to get the ball close to those pin locations. He was really able to kind of access that part of his skill and it was fucking speak for the guy, but I think if you put Tiger Woods from like 7,200 yards at that place today, I think he has an all time day. He would love it. He loves that style. He would fucking go crazy about the architecture,

all the template greens, all that bullshit that everyone loves. he would fucking geek out at that place. Yeah, it's the width, combined with the firmness, I think, because the firmness, if it's not firm, you obviously can't play those shots where you run it up.

But also, it's wide enough to allow you to do that. So, like, a lot of times they're good golf courses in the U.S. really firm, but they're narrow. So it's like, you're not going to play like a swing and draw

because if it misses and it's in the rough, like you're dead. So there's space to actually do it. We had never seen the course. We had a couple of really good guys with us. Slime. Slim. They had good vibes those guys.

Slim. Slim. Did I tweet? Slim. And Pete. Did I tweet out slime? Well, we never got his real name. Did I tweet out Slim or Slum?

Slim was calling him Pete, Ricky. Thank God. So I didn't believe outside of the advice that they were giving us on the golf course, which was great. I didn't believe anything else that they said. Well, Slim came out to me and he goes, Ricky, which was not even his name, the other caddy. He goes, you guys aren't putting this video out, right? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, oh, shit.

He's like, you're going to have to blur out Ricky's face. He's like, he can't be on the air. And I was like, are you serious? And he let that go for two holes. I was like telling people in the group. I'm like, man, this guy's like a wanted criminal. Slim said to you, he goes, you know, as my dad always used to say when I was, when I was sucking, you can't miss every fucking putt. I miss him.

Yeah, you can. Yeah, no, he was hilarious. What else did he lie to you about? Didn't he say something about like that? Yeah, that green's actually. Oh, it's not, not. The third biggest, the third smallest on the course. The huge green.

He goes, guys, this is the third smallest girl. This is the third smallest green on the property. And I was telling everyone, he goes, I was just making that up. That's such a weird thing to make up. It's very oddly specific. Dude, there was one part where we were like in a footprint and in the sand. And he's like, let's just take that out. And it was like underneath this, this little bush.

And I pulled it out and moved it behind the footprint. And he goes, yeah, we have to get it away from that bush. He goes, it's like a special bush. And then I was like, all right, well, now where we just moved it, I'm standing in the same type of bush. Oh, he said it's an endangered species, he told me. And I said, holy shit. So now I'm standing over this bush and I'm not stepping in it. And he goes, what are you doing?

I'm like, well, you said it's an endangered species. He goes, it's a fucking bush. He goes, it's not a fucking. This guy had you guessing all that. I was standing like this on 180 yard shot. And he goes, what are you doing? And I was like, well, I can't put my foot in it. He's like, it's a bush.

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Can plants be endangered? Are they species? Yeah. Plants are species? Yeah. Plants are species, for sure. Invasive species they talk about with plants all the time. Okay.

Maybe he was right. Yeah. But that's like endangered species of like this plant's going to go away. Well, the invasive ones have got to be eating the cake from somebody else. I got a question. Why can't you just plant more? They got the technology. It's a good.

That's a good. You need seeds. Stop for me to figure that. So some of these plants don't produce seeds. And once they're done, they're done. I will say, I'm asking the question is, is our plants endangered? Because I've never heard that in my life. Same.

I don't know for sure. I just have to think. Our trees are endangered, right? Like the rainforest? Yeah. Like there's certain trees you can't cut down, right? Definitely. I got one of my town.

They say if I cut it down, I'm going to get kicked out of the town. It's like a historic tree. Yeah, it's a tree that just hangs over my driveway and they're like, good luck trying to cut that thing down. We'll come and cut your head off. It's like 200 year tree. You've got a hole in it. It's got a hole in it. Would you love to cut it?

And my neighbor says that the squirrels are getting in it and they're pissing and shitting down the tree. And it's going to rot the tree out and the tree's going to fall. Is that on your house? At some point, yeah. So do you want it to fall, but you just don't want it to fall on your house? I would love to just take the tree out. Yeah, right. So you don't have to worry about it fall in your house.

Correct. So you want it to be visibly dead so that they have to take it out as a safe. I think I have to have a whole meeting and I got to go to like the town court and I don't want to do any of that stuff. That's what you have to do. In pioneers you have to do that and you have to get it. I believe it's a $500 license to take down a tree and they have to like a true down. Right. It's a, it's a liability.

What did that guy do? I'm not going to, I forget the specifics of it. Big college football fans poisoned. Um, or rivals. Auburn. Was it Auburn? Was it To me, the two me or whatever? Something like that.

They always fill the tree with like paper paper. Yes. And he was one of those trees. So you could poison the tree. My luck, it'll just come crashing down. Right. True.

I think that guy went to like prison. I think he did. I already got enough going on at the house. Yeah. That conversation we have a Jersey Jerry about the fucking house is exploding with natural gas. It has rattled. Doing nothing wrong. Turn on a light switch.

Yeah. Turn on light switch. I looked up all night last night. It's 220 volts. If there are detectors for natural gas leaks and there's really not a good one. No. They say that smell is the only thing that can detect it. Like, whatever the detection is doesn't really take in natural gas. It just kind of goes out into the atmosphere.

You need to be able to smell that agent that's in there. Got to train your nose. Not good. So imagine before any time you enter on a light switch, you have to do a smell. What if you just walk in the house and you just, like, hadn't been there like I am. I haven't been there in days. She sometimes leaves her parents when I'm like just, I'm away for a week. So what if that just happens for a week?

Make her turn the light off. Go back in and just turn the loud. Boom! That was so much. Well, they ever see the video in Pennsylvania? It was loud. That was bad.

That was really bad. Nuclear bomb. A few people died in that. Five people. Yeah. Five people. So is the gas company, it's not like a way for your own risk here, right?

They said it's going to be like a 10 year investigation on like what happened there. But they're going to get paid for like not them. They're obviously dead. But I'm saying like they're like, the gas company's liable for that. You know. You don't know. We don't know. 10 year investigation.

But I can't imagine who else would be liable. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to know if it's like, there's some level of safety guaranteed. I want to say the CEO came out and said like we like we checked everything, everything's fine. Oh my God. And people are like, well, I mean, imagine their families and he's like, what do you mean? You fucked up.

Like seriously exploded. Dude, your get like your stove, if you have that thing on for. I know like my grandma was at our house once and just like had the gas stove on. She didn't have, she had no idea that you heard that. Yeah. And then just leave it. Just get one little spark for something. You have four little burners.

One of them doesn't work, quote unquote, because like you thought that it didn't get a flame. You go on to the fourth one. You cook your shit and you leave. That first one's been fucking hissing for hours. Come on in. You smoke a cigarette. Boom.

What is not good? Sigs inside. Six inside. Have you ever ripped the Siggins? Have you ever ripped a Siggins? We used to do it all the time in college. You have? Yeah.

We used to do it all the time in college in the third floor of my house. We had the, We used to go to this house where we were the cool parents. They would love the kids pretty much through everything. In the basement there, we just ripped heater. That's a level of disregard for their children's health that I can't get behind. It was the best house ever.

He smoked a, he smoked a weed in the basement. That's cool. If they know that you're ripping sigs inside their basement, that's a little dark. Well, I also remember, what else did you do in that basement?

Don't worry about it, dude. That's statute of limitations. That's HIPAA. That is HIPAA. That is HIPAA. Let's move on. Six inside is good though. That's why I miss the era of, and I don't smoke six, but I have smoked cigarettes before.

And there was like a six-month period where I was a cigarette smoker. But smoking in bars, I missed that whole thing because they made it illegal by the time I started drinking. Is it illegal across the whole country? No. St. Louis, there's, I believe very recently in maybe St. Charles County, which is the county I'm from, they might have just made it illegal, but it still might be legal. in certain bars. Because I know their bars

we go to within the last couple of years where people rip darts. Chaos that it used to like Borrellas just have a smoking section. Yeah. Every restaurant. I know. It's just,

you just smoke. You just, yeah, but it, if you don't, if you, it's such a pussy like side of it because the six people are cool.

But like, the coolest. Like, they're so cool. If you're not a cigarette smoker, it's just a lot to have that, like put on to you. if you're just going out.

No, no, when I was saying, when I said it's smoke, I'm saying what you're saying where, oh yeah, there's no barrier. No, no, it's crazy.

Like, like, like I'm just eating pizza and I got, like people just rip and sigs. Like that's, that's, a restaurant's a different thing.

A bar, I love a smoky bar, but I think you got to keep a couple smoke like smoking bars around. I agree. Cigarette culture in Asia is wild. When I went to Japan, they ripped.

They rip. They rip. I went to Japan for a work. I went to that Zozo, that tiger one. And I just remember everyone would there's like they have these little restaurants that are like three people that you sit on the bar and you just drink beer and smoke cigarettes like raked cigarettes all night in the restaurants. It's like that way. There's a lot of places in Europe like that too.

The cigarette. The U.S. has got one of like the strictest anti-cigarette laws. So my hometown, say Charles County, it says that in 2018 it was passed that it's restricted in all indoor established enclosed establishments. However, there are places that can meet. or get granted an exemption. Right. So there are some grandfathered in bars

is probably one of the keys for an exemption. And you just people, which I like because people know. So like you go in there and you're like, there's some places that need to happen. And you're like, what is this?

Like if you go to these bars, dude, you know it's a smoke. In Boston, that Bellin Hand place, that's like the oldest bar in America. It's like 1790. That place when you walk in there,

smoke should be like hitting you when you walk in. Yeah. Old Mahal and. any wood type shit dark they barely have any light in there ripping heaters there's got to be places you should be able to smoke cigarettes inside some bars yeah that's like casinos i feel like casinos you can smoke inside still doing it yeah we did that shout out to riverside we would do go there all the time and do that play blackjack smoke cigarettes drink jack and coax just

sticks to you the whole every vagus the whole lobby smells like cigarettes yeah it's crazy because they you know they have every air filtration technology you could possibly have and it's still just smells like smoke. Yeah, I just have fond memories of cigarette smoke. When my parents would go to St. Andrews and Cedar Rapids, the real home of golf,

that you in that clubhouse, you could smoke and they would drink there. And then they'd come home and everyone would smell like smoke. Yeah. And I was like, those are my parents. Yeah. You just feel them.

It's tough on a trip when you get one outfit that gets dominated by that because then when you put it in your bag with all your other club, it's over. Well, that's like a bonfire. I made that mistake with the bonfire once.

Oh, on a trip. Yeah. Sat around a bonfire. Went to my bag. took all the clothes off, knew I was leaving in like two or three days. So I took those clothes, put them in the in the suitcase with all the other clothes. Mistake.

Never made that mistake. You know what I made that mistake was after we got pied by Scotty Sheffler. Oh. Repeatedly. I made the mistake. It wasn't pie. It was just whipped cream. Oh.

I made the mistake of packing one of those shirts. So there was like two pants that were totally clean. I would keep watching them and they would just every time I'd wear that much, but fucking smells like, we have a call with whipped cream. We have a call with Mike Essie tonight. I just thought of that. Oh yeah, what time's that at? 5.30, Taylor Made guy.

5.30. Mike S.E. from Taylor made. We're going to be on the road. Yeah, it's perfect. Okay. Shoot the shit. Love talking to Mike. Yeah, we're going to be on our way to Aaron Hills.

We are. This is, it's an aggressive trip to Aaron Hills. We've done a lot this week. We've already got six videos in the can. We're going to Aaron Hills. We're going to get more. My legs are going to fall off. Yeah.

It's a lot of walking. That's the thing. You guys didn't tell me that it was a, it was a card's place until we got here. I believe all the Kaiser properties are no cars. So Band and Cabot here. Stream song, I think he had his hand in. Those places are like no cards. Stream song might have cards some of the year.

I can't remember. But anyway, it is a different world when you just can't take a cart the whole time. I prefer a cart. Yeah. It's still a great place, but I'd prefer a cart. Yeah.

All time week, shout out to Brennan Jones, who's been doing this. And then we started the week in Myrtle Beach and he came to Florida with me. So he's been Myrtle Beach, Florida, straight into this Wisconsin trip. He hasn't been home.

I think he was home for like 36 hours. Ooh, it just got engaged. And every time that he tells someone he's engaged, like, it's a miracle. The fact that she said, yeah, because he, we all feel like we travel all the time, but like, I'm doing travel that's separate from you guys doing travel separate from him. And he's just like at it basically everything. So is Alex Bush. And then we don't travel these places for fun.

We film a bunch of stuff that then they all have to edit. Yeah. So we get to, I walk off a golf course. I'm exhausted. But that was five and a half hours and I'm like, I'm done. I'm going to go lay in my hotel room. These guys got to just go start editing these videos. It's crazy what they do.

Yeah. I mean, we're talking to Alex Bush, huge, huge Bills fan. They're going to get absolutely spanked by the Jets Monday night football. But he's already planning on when we're doing the podcast on Monday because he knows he's going to be doing like clips and promos at 8.30. I mean, like, that's crazy. Like when you have to plan on Tuesday knowing that you're going to be working until the late hours of Monday night and a week in advance, like you're just grinding. You're absolutely grinding. Yeah.

No, it's a lot of work. We have a little SaaS video coming out on Thursday. Oh, nice. Is that tonight? Yes. Yeah, it is. Little sass. Little sass barstall golfs. It's been one of the most requested videos that we've gotten over the last couple of years, honestly.

When's the king of New York playing? When's the king of New York playing? He's playing tonight. Really good swing. Last night, actually. It's Wednesday. It's coming out. Thursday, I thought.

It's coming out tomorrow unless we change it. I think Brendan said Thursday. Oh, you might have. maybe it already came out we don't know maybe because honestly we should just do it

as of now I do it coming out maybe we'll do it at like one o'clock Thursday or maybe Wednesday night because Thursday night because Thursday night is opening night right?

We're not going against you don't want to go against Goodell no with a little sass with the king no he wins that battle every time who is opening night chiefs chiefs in lines

fuck you I mean you just ask a point blank question um yeah a little sass that'll be a good one He can play a little bit He's got a great swing

Like a laughably good swing When you see it in slow motion You're like he has incredible action He gets his arms all the way up And real slow And he has crazy good like lag And turns his hips It's nuts

High school golfer Yeah Yeah amazing He's got a background But he was like the number six guy on the hot On the team Like he like said like he didn't really He played but he wasn't like

The top guy But he's not a guy who doesn't Who's never played He's hit the ball for sure You got Stu Feiner hasn't played since like the Second World War. He didn't, yeah. Okay, Frank, it's a pleasure. What do you say?

Pleasure and honor. He goes, it's an honor and a pleasure to know you. And all the rest of you, I love you. And then swung and miss. He's over the ball and he goes, okay, Frank. Fidelberg's was great. Yeah, it's just, it's fun getting people out there from the office. We're going to keep doing that.

We've got a couple good ones coming up too that we're filming. We got Kirkmanahan coming along on Long Island next week. Kirkmanan's in the mix. We got Tommy smokes. hitting the links. That's going to be a horrible episode. Oh, man. I don't even really want to do it.

We want, and then I'm going to go to Chicago and knock all those guys out. Brandon Walker wants to get in the mix. He says he can't play in the summer. I said, what's that about? Bro, you live in Chicago, that's kind of only time to play. Yeah, definitely can't play in the fall in the fall with college football. What is he? What hell does that mean you can't play golf?

This is too hot. You know what? He's from like Mississippi. I kind of, these last three days have made me almost a believer in that. Something with him in the sun because I saw the yak, like when they were at Stu finers he had to like sit under a tree like he just can't handle the sun there is a lot of footage of brin walker sitting under trees i feel like yeah he's a like crosser like danny what you guys both sit like legs crossed on the floor yeah i'm big legs cross i don't know how you do it

cross applesau yeah i actually don't think i could do it right now no the jelly in between my kneecaps would pop out you're you're an indian style sitter yeah yeah yeah is that insensitive are you can't american american style after tory pines yesterday i figure we should put some you know respect them american style Native American style seating here. Yeah, we did have our caddy yesterday. He said his name was Torrey Pines. He was named after the golf course.

And then Riggs asked him if he was Torrey Pines South or North and he didn't know. He said, he had a great story, which is all going to be in the video. But his name is his father named him that after his first golf course he played because he was a guy that he went to Vietnam with. The whole thing was fantastic. That's cool, yeah. So yeah, we've had some good caddies. The videos are going to be.

We've got, what, six videos already? Yeah. We haven't even done Aaron Hills yet. Aaron Hill is one of our favorites. You're going to see a bunch of stuff. from there. So yeah, we're kind of rolling right along. Wisconsin is a sleeper state for golf. We've said that before. I think 10, 10 of the top 100 golf courses on the Golf Digest rankings. About to be 11 from your old pals. Yeah, about to be 11 are in Wisconsin, which I mean,

there's 50 states. It's like they're kind of dominating on their quota. I think it's the best public golf in the country. That's what a lot of people are saying that for public golf, it's yeah. Because there's a lot of states like New York, New Jersey have unbelievable golf courses, but the vast majority are private. So they're insane with like California. Yeah. So there's, Monterey and San Francisco area and all that, LA, like all that golf's sick, but it's private. It's all super private. This is nice. You can just come here and play these golf courses for the most part, except we just talked about the sweet it was that Lido's plugged private, but you can get T-times.

Yeah, a little private. Half private. Rider Cup, European Rider Cup. Yeah. Picks were made. I was a little surprised. Adrian Moronk didn't make the team. My guy.

I like Marantle. It took him a bunch in the gambling. Yeah, he's a solid player. He finished fifth in the points. He's third in the DP World Tour, like the season long race. He's behind only league Rahm and McElroy. And he won the tournament at that golf course in May. He didn't make the team?

And he didn't make the team. How do they justify not picking someone that finished fifth in points? So there's two lists. It's kind of complicated. There's a world list that is like basically how many world ranking points you get. And then there's a European points list that is only earned through your DP World Tour events. So he finished fifth in that list. third in that list was Robert McIntyre

so like Tommy Flewood did not qualify on points he needed to pick which is crazy how good he was this year it's insane Fitz like leapfrogged him at the end so Fitz auto qualified got that last spot and then McIntyre crazy that Fitz had to leapfroggard you want a fucking major

since the last rider come well they have this you know they want to protect the European tour so they have three spots that are you know so the US only have one they don't have any of this one list that's pretty much an approximation of like a sort of a combined FedEx Cup between two years. But yeah, so they went with Nikolai Huigard instead,

who's 22-year-old from Denmark, who's won and been a good player on the European tour. But I think most people thought they were going to go with Moronk. But, you know, we've been talking about this for a while. I think the odds are down to like, I think Europe's like only like plus 125 now. Wow. They were like 220, 2.30, just like a month or two ago. And like a year ago, we were talking about like they weren't going to be able to formulate a team.

Yeah, we were. We had discussions that the Ryder Cup was going to get like, canceled. Yeah. It was like they were still away with it. Yeah. So I think the, look, it's still three weeks away.

Anything can happen. But Europe needed a boost and they needed some momentum and they've gotten it. So I think there's a lot of juice going into that tournament. I think there was a lot of controversy on the U.S. side. There's kind of little, I don't know if scandals are, but like storylines waiting to happen. Right. If J.T. doesn't have a good tournament. Zach Johnson can, you know, come under fire for that pick.

So there's some juice going in. Sebstraka. Straka made it. Yeah, he did. A little traitored. A little. A Dewey thing. I'm trying to figure.

Yeah, Dewey is going to be on the bag there. John Deere and Dewey, this guy. He's like, got to be one of your boys. And then he's on the European Ryder Cup team. And he's got a southern drawl

when he's going to be giving these interviews. Yeah. It's going to be slugging diet coke. I don't know how my brain feels about it. But I don't love it. Yeah. You should see him speak German, like in person.

It'll, yeah. You'll feel a little better like, fuck this guy. I need that. I kind of need that. Yeah. I saw it.

So I saw it because I, it was breaking my brain. And then I saw him doing an interview in the Bahamas in English. And then there was a German journalist there and asked him a question. And he started speaking just like perfect German. I was like, okay. This makes a little more sense. Okay. I'm going to have to watch that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting into it. I mean, it's been since 1993 since the U.S. is one or four in soil. Dominated a couple of years ago. Clearly the U.S. team did. Things have changed a lot since then.

There's a bunch of guys on the team that weren't on that team. and what, three of them that qualified. Harmon, Wyndham Clark, maybe one more in the top six that qualified before they even got picks. So the team's changed a lot, but we were going through earlier. Homa.

And like some of the pairings really make me think like, all right, the U.S. should fucking be favored. Like if you have Scotty and Sam Burns, you have Spief and JT, you got Morikawa and Homa, Homa,

and then you've got Zander at Cantway. And it's like, those are four fucking parings. The Europeans, The Europeans can come back with Rory, Shane Lowry, Victor, Fitz, Fleetwood, Hatton, and then we were saying Rom, A-Berick would be sick. Yeah. So they have, there's eight titans on each team.

And even though they got steamrolled in Wisconsin, like the ROM was a machine that week. He was great. Yeah, he lost to Scotty and the singles. But other than that, I think he was. Him and Sergio were three and no. Yeah. So, I mean, he was, he's a machine in that event. It's in Europe.

to be, I feel like this is going to be one of the tighter ones. I'm excited. I really hope so. I think the tournament could use a close one. What do we know about this golf course? It's going to be very, very tight. I saw some videos are starting to emerge, you know, like right before the U.S. Open and start to see some like rough videos. Oh, I drop the ball on there. They're showing extremely thick rough. So I think it's going to be, they're going to try and approximate the golf national national the best they can or I think it's going to be really tight, really narrow and just really long rough on both sides and try to kind of hamstring the Americans but the Europeans have a bunch of

bombers too a bunch of guys who hit it the long way so I think that especially with no polter and like I think that storyline isn't quite as strong as it's been in years past like I think the Europeans all hit it a long way they're all really good players Ludwig is like the apparently the second best driver behind Rory and the whole world so those two guys are going to be a problem they're going to it's going to be really really fun to watch Shane and Rory is that's an electric duo it's electric hard to root against them I was thinking of I didn't want to say but I was thinking that in my head Like I will root against them. But they've also got all that history together.

And it's just like, fuck. Rory Lowry versus Cantlay Shafley. You're just red, white, and blue all the way. Yeah, come on, dude. Don't put me in this position. No, I was asking me. That's just Rory and Shane, that's two likable guys. Yeah.

Two jolly lads. The Euros are, they're pretty fucking likable guys. They are. For the most part. Like, even when it was that Fleetwood and fucking Molinari, when they've, whatever, in 2018, they're like singing, Tommy, Tom, Tom it was like it's annoying but like those guys are fucking the US kind of have like a like a villain well they almost kind of I felt this way when I was watching the Walker Cup because they've won that tournament like so many times in a row and they go on this foreign soil they go into Scotland they're lifting the trophy chanting USA like in Scotland I do kind of feel like it's probably different when it was back in the day with Sevy and all the Europeans but I feel like the Americans are sort of like the bad boys also because the JT was chugging beers remember yeah but don't we kind of doesn't it like the US have that reputation around the world? Yeah. That's probably even outside of the golf.

Right. We're like Americans. It's like we're kind of the boisterous like assholes from across the ocean. Yeah, you're right. We can't really play the like plucky upstart role anymore. Yeah, we come in with like, we wear like flag fucking t-shirts and shit. Yeah. Like, you know, we're American.

Fair enough. So I think that's kind of just generally the American thing. But yeah, it does feel like. And it feels, yeah, with like Cantlay and Zander like quiet and Zander slow or can't lay like slow. So I feel like that's like people were kind of like, Fuck those guys. Yet he doesn't.

He doesn't wear a hat, right? Like no hat, Pat. He's out there dominating people. I feel like people probably fucking hate that. Yeah. Europeans. So yeah, I think that team, it's going to be a fantastic rider. Yeah.

Really good. Fantastic writer. It's going to be special. I don't know how I'm going to watch this thing. Too early? It's on at 10 p.m. That's when it starts. Yeah.

Do you have to be on the East Coast? You're going to be in Arizona? Yeah, I think there's six hours ahead of East Coast time. And then I'm three hours behind nine hours. So they tee off, right? because they got to get 36. Early. It's like 7 a.m.

in fucking almost October. So yeah, they tee off really early there. That's literally going to be 10 p.m. my time. So I don't even know how you could. You can't stay. I'd have to stay up until 10 in the morning. It'd be really hard. You've got to flip everything.

What am I going to do? I don't know. That's a good question. I have to go somewhere else. You might have to go to Piner's for them. It's not going to be the easiest viewing experience for East Coast. No. No.

It's like 1 a.m. Yeah. But at least you can wake up at 4 and, you know, you still see the last. hour or so of the morning. It's tough to miss the first tee shot. It's like on Friday, right? Because they just play Friday, Saturday, Sunday, right? Yeah.

In Ryder Cup, President's Cup, they play all four days. But like Friday, you're not going to miss that first T shot. They're going to be doing the Viking thing and like, you got to see that first T shot. So maybe you watch the first T shot at 10 p.m. In Arizona, then you take the red eye and then you move to the type. Dude, I think I'm going to have to nap at like five. Sleep shifts. I'm going to have to Frank the tank and sleep shift it.

It's fucking crazy. Yeah, I just wish it was here every time. Yeah. Yeah. That's very American of me, but that's way nicer. Created by fans, four fans. Game Time is the ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets. Two sports, concerts, shows.

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have a good rider cup last uh we were we weren't like friendly really back then did you guys have a good experience at Whistling Straits. Awesome. Yeah. Really good. Good week for you guys. Yeah. Yeah.

How can I ran to the first, the first hole? That video went huge. Yeah, that was a huge video. That one was fun. We hung out with Sky Schaeffler. We went to a Dan and Shea concert. Went to a Dan and Shade concert.

Yeah. Milwaukee. At the Milwaukee Bucks Arena. Went to fucking Lambo. Went to Lambo. Went to Lambo. Went to Lambo. Walked on the field.

We did. Yeah. Yeah. Scottie was like putting for three hours and we waited for him the entire time and he had said that something was off with his putting and that they realized at the end of that session that one his putter was off

it was like it was bent a little bit that's why he was driving him crazy he wasn't even until he made like five eight footers in a row or something halfway through his session someone looked at his putter and they're like it's fucking bent so they bent it back and he just started nail on putts and then he came over to us he might need to bend it again but it took a long time yeah that was me

but true. Yeah, and then that was before he was Scotty Sheffler. Like he was Scott. I remember I tweeted night before singles. I was like, Scotty Sheffler's going to kill John Rom. People were like, you're crazy American. And then that's what vaulted him up. That was when he still talked to us.

Yeah. Not anymore. I mean, once he became the number one golfer in the world, I feel like we started getting less. Would you talk to us? We stopped talking pizza in our DMs like we used to. That hurts. What's your favorite spot in New Haven? Sallies.

It's unfortunate, but I get it to a degree. Happens to everyone. Yeah. The more they won't. I just think he, yeah, I think there was always like, I always made an excuse for him where I'm like, ah, he's like the number one golfer in the world. And then he like fell off the number one golfer in the world. I'm like, ah, he's probably frustrated.

He's not the number one got off from the world anymore. Remember, like the first interaction we had with Scott, he was at Kiowa. Yep. Because he had, he would always smile when he saw you. And they set it up at Kiowa perfectly for guys like, where they had to walk from the putting and chipping to the range and we had our own little bullpen area. Yes. And we were doing like

introduction and walkdowns and Scotty came. Well I said Scottie Sheffler and he goes, I didn't know you knew my name. What? Imagine that. This is the IKEA of a PGA and I was like how the fuck would I know Scottie Sheffler? And he's like, I don't know. I just I didn't know you're Frankie. I just didn't know you knew I was me. Because he's a big pizza review guy. And then I was like all right. And then he's laughed. He goes, all right.

It was awesome. I kind of like went after him. What the fuck you talking about? He's like, relax. And we had a really good back and forth. And then I saw him at the PGA at the, at the, um, at Western Straits. And I'm like, every time I see you, I laugh.

He's like, I laugh too. And then I put out that picture of him looking like Buzz Lightyear. And I think that may have turned the ties. I agree. Do you just discover that in your head? Well, he's during the US Open in Boston. Country Club. With the country club.

And I just thought he looked like Buzz Lightier. He kind of just, and we got, we had an amazing. Photoshop of him looking like Buzz Lightyear I don't think that's a dig No Buzz Lightyear's like a handsome He's got like a big like a big jaw Like that's about it I gotta find this

But then but there's also And I don't know if this is public The there's the Islander who doesn't like the No we we yeah All right no no no no we've moved on from that tweet for sure I used to call Anders Lee the Crimson Chin He's got a and I had an amazing gift that I would tweet out I turned the crimson chin

from the fairly odd parents into Anders Lee flying through a little 27 on it's incredible Triggs I think Trigg made it for me I just I got reports back to I don't think he like for the captain team I don't think that he liked the Islander's guy or people around him maybe didn't like that

his tweet was about his big chin his jaw He's got a nice jawline You do gotta think with Buzz Light Year he is like a borderline superhero but he's also in the toy story movies at least in the beginning he's highly delusional he like thinks he's Buzz Lightyear

I'm not He doesn't know he's a toy Listen I don't This was This was the picture that made me think it And I don't think Scottie Shepler's thinking about it that much I don't think so either But at the beginning

Buzz does not know that he's a toy Same face So that was I tweeted that Let's see Was it the newer version of Buzz Light Year Because there was a new one Yeah So that was 6, 722.

I'm going to go through my photos. Who was the voice? Zach Johnson astronaut. Buzzlight ear. I have a weird thing where I think certain people look like they're astronauts. I think we even showed Zach the Photoshop of the astronaut. He loved it. And he liked it.

He asked for a photo for a t-shirt. He looked regal in that one though, that one that we made. And Zach just super cool, awesome, perfect guy. So Captain Zach. Yeah, I do get a little bit nervous about that if we're being honest. It's a, it's a big. effect on their legacy. It is.

Really is. Absolutely. If you have a shit one, it's bad. Yeah, like Faldo losing at Valhara. Valhalla. Valhalla, like, you know, there was like this festering thing that people didn't really like Sir Nick that much. And then when you think about the Watson thing.

Tom Watson. And then even like I feel like. Jim Furek a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then like Patty Harrington last two years ago when they got steamrolled at Missley's I feel like it wasn't like, but people were kind of like, eh. Yeah.

Oh, think about Stricker. That's very funny. That's very funny. That's really good. That's really good. There's no way he got mad at that. No, I think I'm just thinking too much into it. Stricker whistling was like, this is my major.

Valted. Incredible. That vaulted. That made him iconic. He's crying and all into it. Yeah, and they're all going nuts for Captain Stricker afterwards. And in Shane Ryan's book, you learn a lot about how much stricter was actually putting into it. And it was like, holy shit.

That's what I hope is going to happen to Zach. Now, Zach obviously has two majors, a master's in an open championship of St. Andrews. Amazing. As good as it gets. Pretty good resume. Video game stuff. Pretty good resume.

And if you can put another feather in his cap, I don't know, can he get canceled for that? If he can win a Ryder Cup. We're dancing all around, no pun intended, the Native American. Oh, all right. Now, now we're in an area we don't want to be. That was crazy. Now we're in an area we don't want to be.

The fact that you said no pun intended made it fucked up. No one would have noticed. What's all with like the Native American? arrogance dance. Dances with wolves. Dances with wolves. I don't know if that movie's, you know, I don't know if that movie's okay still. Really?

I don't know. Is that right? I don't know. We're canceling dances with waltz. It's a great movie. It's a good movie. I don't know. It's hard to keep up with what's okay.

I would like, I mean no offense. Listen, if Sky Chef was listening to this, send me a DM that says, and he has my number to infinity and beyond. Just send it. I want to, I want to, know that he's in on the joke. You think he's going to listen to this podcast? They might get to him.

He's got friends. True. Somebody actually submitted it from the gallery. To infinity and beyond, Scottie. I want that message. So I know you don't hate it. It was like when Fitz. We used to say words at the end of the podcast to test.

It fits was listening. Play in Texas. Purple. Matt from Iowa. This is a from the gallery. Shout out. We need submissions, by the way. Submissions.

Foreplay at barcelesports.com. That's the email. And just put from the gallery in there and then send us a question. a concern, a hypothetical, whatever. He said, go hawks. And then he said, would you rather be Zach Johnson currently? Two-time major winner, lifetime seat of the Masters Champions dinner, but obviously your best golf days are behind you.

Or would you rather be a young star in your 25 to 30-year-old range that does not have a major yet, not guaranteed to ever get that win, but you have more life and championship golf opportunities ahead of you? So like Xander Shoffley? Yeah, would you rather be like Xander right now or Zach Johnson right now? No, that's too easy to pick Zan. Sander. He's got more money under this. He's got more money.

Zander's got like, Zander's also accomplished a bunch of things it feels like in his life. He's got so much fucking money. If you're telling me if I could be just younger and wealthier and cooler and better looking, I'm going to pick Xander or I pick Xander. You have to give me like a guy that's like in his rookie season. Okay.

Would you rather, would you rather Davis Riley? Right. Or Zach Johnson. Like a guy with crazy promise or Zach Johnson. Well, how old is Zach Johnson? Probably midf,

40s. All right. And Davis Riley's 19? No, he's like 26. 26. Yeah. Holy fuck. So, yeah, yeah, that's a, you're right.

Zander's, in my opinion, the Xander ones in O'Brien. I'm going to look up how old David's right? Also, like 26 is more important than, you know, whatever. He's been out there for like two years, so the year on the corn and fury. Wow. Nice work, Dan Rapp's for it. I would have thought way younger. Yeah.

How old Zach? I just want to look. 44. Are you guessing? 19, seven years out. 47. 47. 47.

It's older. But he's got two majors. And he's got 13 wins. be my guess. Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame. I'd rather be Zach Johnson. I'd rather be Zane or Shoffley than Zach Johnson, but I'd rather be Zach Johnson than Davis Riley.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's also probably one of the mentalities that we don't have. But what are you like basing that off of? Like the way the world perceives you, like you being in the history books or like your quality of life. Well, if you're snapping a finger and turning into another body,

you're really picking Zach Johnson over like a young stud that has this whole life of golf ahead of it. I'm a guy. You're not about to play. You're not going to be able to play. to play in the masters. I mean, you will because he's going to play in the masters.

But yeah, I guess he's still playing. I'm a guy who works for things because I like the feeling after accomplishing them. I'm not necessarily like, oh, I love the grind.

Like it's like, no, I like feeling like I accomplish this thing. You don't like working out, but you like after the workout. Exactly. That you actually worked out. Exactly.

So if I'm Zach Johnson, I have that feeling of warmth throughout my whole life that I accomplished this. I did all of these things. You didn't though. Well, but you can't.

In the hypothetical, I think you're just like swapping with them. Like you're just entering. But do you, you don't know that you swapped. Yeah, I guess so. It's a good point.

Yeah, if your brain didn't swap and you're there, you're sitting at the table like, these guys don't even know. I'm just rigged. I can't. My new family has no idea. Come to bed,

honey. Get me out of here. I still get to go home to Cedar Rapids for the holidays. I'm more saying like the world thinks that you won at St. Andrew. and you won a master like like everything kind of changed like you're like a 45 year old you have Zach Johnson's life yeah yeah so the world thinks that I won the masters right so I won the master's right which is cool yeah very cool you didn't get to go do it though if you switch is if you switch to

a guy that is about to embark on that journey I think that might be true like would you not have the memories of doing it that's what I'm saying it's like it's your new I think it'd be fine with it okay wow maybe I'm just maybe I'm just vain it's a little hollow Remember when Roy McElroy taught us Had a hit a driver and he called you a lefty Zach Johnson? And you said something to mean about Zach Johnson And he was like,

Masters in a British Open at St. Andrews is pretty good. Even Roy McElroy thinks that's pretty fucking good. It is pretty fucking good. Anything at Augusta to Rory's like incredible. He's like, holy fuck. I think that's part of the reason. I think that's part of the reason.

I like Rory. Come on. I actually think that's part of the reason why he said it. Probably. He was like, I mean, I would take a master's. Yeah. Yeah, Rory's been listening in on the champions dinner every single fucking Monday. Might have changed now.

I don't remember, but I think Zach Johnson won the Masters with the highest score. Plus one. Plus one. 2007. That hasn't changed since then, right? Cold and windy. Yeah. Layed up on every par five, King.

Those are two iconic wins. Sick that he laid up. Short King. That's, yep. Iconic wins. Playoff. Three-way playoff at the same year. Yeah, he kind of still.

Remember Speed was making, that would have been the third leg? He missed a put on 18. get into the playoff. He kissed the jug with his eyes open. Oh yeah, that crazy. That was one of like the crazy memes. Yeah. We talked about that.

With him. He was like, he's like, I can't believe that's the photo that they used. Yeah. I think there's an ear of corn in it too when that's happening. Oh, no, that's a separate picture.

There's two pictures. When he won the Masters, made my dad and my uncle Jack cry. Oh, wow. They bawled their eyes out. That's incredible. That's great. It's a Cedar Rapids guy.

Yeah, that's a big deal. He's got a street named after him. Could you see him going into politics? No No he's not that kind of guy No I don't think so beloved in that area I don't know

Is he not one of Iowa's proud of his songs Oh he most certainly is But I don't know Is he the most successful Iowen Whoa There's a few that we've pulled up before yeah Ashton Coucher's more successful Than Zach Johnson

Depends how you look at it Pongto is pretty cool And he's pretty famous dude He's very yeah that's the question He's rich now too He's very rich Is you married to what's her face Milakuin is

Yeah I don't like they shower In like a plant base house or something. And it was more that anymore. Something about, didn't like, don't they like not shower their children? They don't,

yeah, they got in a big. But then they had, they showed some self-awareness and they made fun of it. Yeah. Didn't he? Wasn't he dating a girl that got killed?

Who? I think he had a girlfriend at one point and she got like murdered while he was dating or something crazy. I don't know if I remember that. Like in the 2010 area, somewhere around there. Hmm.

Hard to recall. I'm pretty sure. It's, it's him or somebody that's in that kind of category as I'm was dating a girl that was like maybe an actor, but wasn't like, you know, as high up as he is in terms of fame and all that she got like murder or something i

damn i don't remember that i hate to bring that up yeah i'm pretty sure that's like a crazy fact about damn ashen kudder yeah damn yeah punkth was iconic who's uh who's froto baggins what eliza wood iowa blueest eyes this this guy's ever seen i think um like kind of john wayne might be from Iowa. But Zach's up there. Zach's way up there. You know what I mean? Priyanka Chopra is from,

she actually, we actually, she's not from there, but her and I went to the same high school. Kennedy. Yeah, shout out. JFK. Kennedy, hi? Yep.

Nice. Shout out to it. And then there's me, of course. Eagles? Well, it was the cougars. For us, golf's incredibly simple. We're out there to have a good time to get away, to compete with our friends a little bit.

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nips. We use these all week. We put a fireball birdie shot club in our golf bags. We ripped them out. We had ourselves a great time at Sand Valley. So go check out the Fireball Birdie Shot Club. What was your high school like? Was it like a movie high school

where like things like um i always wanted to go to a high school where parts of it you walked outside like there was a hallway outside nope you didn't have that nope we had hallways outside i'm sure yeah the warmer climates i think have that yeah those always made me feel really cool there was like little like um like hangout areas that were like between classrooms outside yeah i think i had a pretty standard high school experience honestly yeah same how many kids in your graduating class 380 okay that's pretty I had like 400, 500. 4A. I played football.

It was good. I actually, cheerleaders on Friday nights. Yep. Nice. Fuck yeah. Yeah, man. Enjoyed it.

I really enjoyed it. What was everybody's high school mascot? I was the Jets. Eastbound Jets. They drove a little jet around the track. It was actually a pretty cool little thing. That is cool. It was like a go cart, but it looked like a jet.

I like that. It didn't go that fast, though, so it was kind of. I went to four different high school. Wow. Wow. Why? Hockey. Why?

That didn't answer my question. Traveling to join different teams because it was like high school hockey is very limiting in terms of the exposure. It's not like like high school football. For example, you could become like a highly touted recruit by just playing high school football. Hockey's not that way. Like high school hockey in Missouri, for example, at the time was like horrific. So it's like if you were really good in high school hockey there, you might not be able to make a club hockey team in college. Gotcha.

So there were all these like travel teams that essentially would funnel the best players so that they could then be scouted by like college coaches and such. And so I've moved to Chicago, a couple different high schools in Chicago. And then obviously went to my high school back in St. Louis, which is St. Charles West Warriors, I believe they were. Okay. And then the prep school that I went to obviously solved all of these issues up in Connecticut, which is why I went there.

And we were the wild boars. Ooh, gotcha. I had the Cedar Rapids of Rough fighters, came into existence while I was sort of that age. And I think it's the USHL, maybe. Yep. So a bunch of the players would start to live with the families and come to high school. Andy Mealy, does that sound familiar?

He played in Arizona. Stud. He was a Sierra up a throw fighter. Him and I got like, we weren't close, but we were friendly. I like that guy. USHL is like the best junior hockey league. Like those guys all go Division I. So those are all kids that pretty much are like seniorish in high school level.

even a year after high school instead of going to college right away they go play a year or two a junior hockey to get scouted and it's like again it's kind of this funneled league where the college coaches instead of having to go to every high school around the country and do all this they just pretty much go to junior hockey games scout those and pick them players from there my uncle a side job for him was being the cedar rabbit's rough fighters mascot really ricochet it's good big horse didn't you fill in for him once yeah yeah there was like a boys and girls commitment that he couldn't make and I filled in for him and it was an ice skating one at the ice skating arena. This year I was ice arena and I just stood in the middle of the ice and the

kids skated around me because I couldn't skate my best friend my best friend Richard just came down and watched he was like I'm not missing that I'm going to come check it out that's amazing I just stood there while the kids skated around me yeah my high school I don't want to be around anymore my high school was uh Brentwood eagles okay Eagles yeah small high school that's a good one Eagles Warriors Jets Cougars well wild boars wild boars yeah very prep school we were the chote rosemary hall

wild boars wow not just boars wild boars well it was chote was the guy's school forever and then rosemary hall was the girl school and they merged

decades ago and so it was called chote rosemary hall which is where jfk went really isn't chode another word for like a cock chode is like chode yeah

we got that one a lot yeah we used to say we used to say trote for meaning wait sucking croat troat troat now I haven't heard that

like throat throat without an age like she gave like oh I see she can't even say the age because yeah yeah no it's just give him trot

right high school is an interesting time we had a lot of I loved my high school I actually did too just I love to having like you know all the like the teachers that were there

for four years and you develop relationships with them like Mr. Casson that's a name I haven't said in a long time but like just fucking awesome social

studies teacher that was just always there. Yeah. And you're just like, man, good times. I hear from my teachers every now and then. Yeah, same. My high school golf coach, like, played at the Colonial Springs golf. I met him. Yeah.

He was, that was the baseball coach that I met when you and I were just out there playing. That was coach Massia. Okay. Yeah. Definition of a high school football coach and baseball coach. 100%. Just you can hear his pants swishing. Still called him coach, which I like.

Called him coach when I said, I still, there's, yeah, that's a good. I've got football coaches from back home that aren't coaches anymore, and I'll see him around town and I'm back home and it's still coach. We were filming a barstool golfs and on the hole that was coming towards us. It was just my varsity baseball coach, my JV baseball coach, and a guy that grew up with like with my aunt all in just one group. It was crazy. It was like it was overkill.

I couldn't even understand it. I hadn't seen them in 12 years. Speaking of high school coaches, did you guys watch the BS high about Bishop Sycamore? No, but I want to. I want to. You got to watch that because you were saying, about like coach and they were saying how like it's especially

shitty to mislead kids as a coach because there's a certain gravitas there is that comes with that name of like coach like you're expected to be like a leader of young men kidding me certainly not supposed to fuck them over you guys got to watch a document you're a role model you're to be trusted that guy is an all time con man all time con stinks you guys should watch it i saw our guy clemer went after him i think i think i think he had him on pick central yeah they interview and clemer just fucking win at his throat. Let's go. Yeah. Hard hitting.

Shouts said like you're a shitty person basically. Pretty much. Yeah. He's like it's it's it was your kind of what you're saying. It's your responsibility like and you you basically take advantage of these kids like in that way, which is fucked up. How about we had a curfew in high school? What time? Oh what the boarding school? Yeah. This high school sounded like it sucked. It was all it sounded like a bunch of chodes. It was honestly fucking off. Not a lot of trod, but we'll throw back for the rigs there. We had just trauma. fucking guys

just come over punch me. Don't talk about it. We had 7.30 to 9 on weeknights was study hours. You either had to be in a library or in your room. And then from 9 to 945, we had study break where everybody would meet and they had like food trucks came in basically.

And everybody would kind of meet and hang out for 30 or 45 minutes. And then you had to be back in your room, I believe by 9.45. And they shut off the internet at 11. That's so early. Wow. As a high school senior?

Yep. You had to be in your room at 945? Yep. On week nights. That's, it was a joke, man. That would have never worked for me. I was a bit of a menace in high school.

Just like in terms of, I mean, I was still the way that I am now, but I also love the party. And I love to, like, we had plenty of guys got expelled. Gotcha. That would be a thing.

Throwing ragers after hours and shit. Like, we had plenty of people got expelled for sure. That happened. And then on weekends, like we were, we had 25% of our student body was day students. So they lived locally and didn't live on at the,

at the school and like they would invite people over on weekends you could check out and then like they would have some of those people had the cool parents that would like just throw parties at their house every weekend what was the dynamic between the borders and the non borders was everyone friends or was there a divide no people were friends but there was a little bit of a rivalry for sure yeah of like you're not all in yeah you go home at the end of the day you go home your parents or they had like a car like people yeah like that was amazing there were people that freedom and having a car be able to drive around like we had to be in bed by fucking 9 30 yeah people with school permits before everybody turned 16

those people were rock stars. Yeah, big time. Those people were rock stars. The OG cool guy. Oh yeah. 11th grade when I started going out to get lunch and like you'd leave and I'd get in a car. I had a tribute.

I remember it was like a Mazda tribute or something. Everyone would pack in. We had a Mazda tribute. Yeah. I remember just like thinking it was so cool that I'd bring everyone to Borrellys. And I'd be like, you're not going to believe. Like where's you can't go to Breznan? I'd just have like 11th graders just like sitting at the bar

Borreleys and like it would just. be like an empty restaurant because it's like 11 o'clock of the morning it was just like it never lived up to the hype it was just like we're sitting there my dad's like bringing out pasta I'm like we shouldn't be drinking Coca-Cola yeah yeah but we would just go to the bar and just I remember I used to go with like three or four people like almost every single lunch we would just go to brus we'd bring our homemade lunches sometimes and just go sit at the bar bizarre behavior bizarre behavior yeah we would just go there was like a taco bell nearby there was a windies nearby that was where we would always go if somebody had a school permit I did jail right across the street a pretty big one whoa jailer

Prison. Prison. I think it's a, I think it's, it's a, it's a, it's a jail. It's not a prison. They hold pretty bad people there, though. Okay. It's like the one that like, if you murder everybody, you're going there for like a day or two while they figure out what prison to send you upstate. Right.

They're processing. They had a couple of outbreaks where like we got put on, on shut down. Where people broke out. Yeah, yeah. Were you rooting for them? Jesus. Breakouts. Are you rooting for them like Shawshank style or were you?

I mean, I think every kid roots for just to be able to go home. You don't care what happened. And whatever's going to cancel school. Buildings don't explode. Just like, I just like to go home. Snow. I used to root for everything to cancel school. We had one where everyone was on lockdown.

And it's like scary because it's gotten so much worse now with all these lockdowns. Like you have to take it fucking seriously because the world's psychotic. But it's one kid. I remember we were on lockdown for a long time. And I forgot what it was. Like the electricity went out or something. And all the AC went out for hours. And they wouldn't let us leave.

It was nuts. We were stuck in these rooms. And one kid just goes, I'm done. and just hopped out the third store window what yeah landed in bushes and then just ran across he survived what a ledge ran across thing he got suspended didn't go to prom barely graduated they tried to fucking ruin he's probably incarcerated right now that's a real breaker you're right across he's actually pretty successful he's a normal dude ready he just took him right across the street yeah put him in a car drive across the street oh you always i'll always remember just here and just

like i'm done i'm out what's his first name i can't all right we had a we had something called President's Day where one day a year the president of the school would just choose the night before that tomorrow's off and it was fucking awesome Was it always Joe, the prep school?

Was it always President's Day that we all have? No, no, no. That'd be funny. We just didn't know they didn't tell us about that holiday. It's this day. It'd be like a random Wednesday night and we'd get a school-wide email at like 6 p.m. or something that would be like tomorrow's President's Day. That's how you keep the favor of the student body. Yeah. That's a big move. That's a good idea.

Yeah. Like a... Yeah. And it was baked in. No, we had to wear a, we had to wear a jacket and tie. But what you could choose? But it was like, it seems like you got to wear a suit, which I was a guy from the Midwest that didn't grow up in like the prep school culture. Also, I, my first couple weeks at school, I wore a suit. And you learn that like jacket and tie guys literally were wearing like, khakis, like pink shorts with like a fucking jacket tie with the sleeves all rolled up that like the tie hadn't been undone in two years. You just keep it and tie.

Like it wasn't. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't know anything. better. I just wore literally like a black suit to the first day of school. People were like, the fuck's wrong with you. They had to be like this guy. Oh, totally. Any like big people come out of like

that school where you went like, you know, CEOs and shit like that? Yes, but nothing that's big like public. Okay. In that sense. But there, I mean, even I remember early on, there were some kids that we went to school with that you would see on like CNBC

talking business trades with like their new, you know, the NFT. company or whatever. Right. But a while ago, like within five years ago, it wasn't NFTs, I guess it was like five years after we graduated. But when we were 26, all of a sudden, like kids that we went to school with, they were talking about scientific breakthroughs that they're working on and shit, you'd be like,

Jesus, that's that kid from class. Wow. That's weird. Yeah. But again, it was a lot of behind the scene. This one kid, Kieran, then ended up going to Harvard as well, but was very deep into like, pre-med and like biology and medicine type study. ended up doing like wizardry type stuff in like scientific business.

That's shit that I don't even understand, but I think like makes more money than God. You guys got any famous alums? We got Maroon 5. It's pretty good. Wow. The whole band? Adam Levine? I think it's like four out of the five.

Yeah, Adam Levine. Yeah. They were a band in high school called Kara's flowers or Kara's flowers. Okay. That's pretty interesting. He used to like assemblies and stuff. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

Adam Levine's mom worked at the school like in admissions when I was there. He was obviously a few years older than me. There's a few others. The two friends, you know, they're a music duo. You know who they are? They were a couple years above me. I didn't have it. We had Joel Rifkin.

He was a, I think he ate like eight, eight women. Oh, that's not where I thought you were going for like a competitive eater. No, he like murder. He was like a serial killer. Okay. Murderer. Joel Rifkin. Cannibal, it sounds like.

Yeah, he was bad. He was a bad dude. He went to school with like my, and my dad's like, class. I'm trying to think. While we're on that subject, I just want to confirm that the Ashton Coucher girlfriend

murder story is true. True. Oh, horrible story. Jesus. Girl, she was like a 22-year-old girl, and she was,

when she was murdered, she was getting ready in her house for a date with Ashton Coucher. Oh my gosh. Isn't insane? Yeah. He testified during the trial. Wow.

It was in like 2001. It was a long time. Yeah, that's before that I was like aware of it. So it was way longer than I thought. Isn't that nuts? four Demi Moore. Yeah, right. I'd say the most famous alum from my high school is Salgenta,

who was the first living Medal of Honor recipient since like the Vietnam War. I was friends with his brother Mario, who was younger. The story's crazy. If you look him up, it's, you wouldn't believe it. It's like straight out of, yeah, it's crazy. That was, yeah.

No good. So we had at Eastmont High School, Matt Sarah, forgot about that one. UFC fighter. Yeah. Pretty good. And Chris Angel. Wow.

Yeah. Mind freak? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's a good one. A bunch of freaks. Joe Riffgang.

Andrew Britebark. Guy who started Breitbart. Oh, wow. Wow. Well, he's dead, actually. So don't be nice. He's dead? Yeah, he's dead.

Oh, I didn't know that. And the guy who played, uh, boy meets world. Corey. That's a big one. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah.

There's some good Hollywood ones. Frank Viola, all-time Mets pitcher and twins pitcher. I think he won I don't know if he won I think he won the Sionk 19 he was like an older guy

in the 80s but yeah Priyanka Chopra is also there for me oh yeah you met her in the office right yeah she didn't she didn't know if you remember this guy

I think he played for the Chargers Rich Ornberger he was like an offensive lineman whenever like a big football player would come I'm sure you'd do the same way but like you knew that when the guy was going to make it and like the whole entire town went behind him

I remember when Rich Ornberger got like like was on an NFL team every single time his name came up on like Monday night football you went I went nuts oh yeah my sister showed me would show me a picture of him like at our house and like a group photo like a party and I'd be like that fucking I mean while he was like a offensive line I don't know like you didn't really make that even impact I'm trying to think there wasn't anybody yeah nobody like no NFL players are really in my class or from where I'm my specific graduating class I don't know that anyone's doing anything that crazy like I'd love to actually hear from a lot of people.

I guess that's why reunions were a thing. I feel like my book groups are kind of a thing now. This generation has done away with fucking reunions because everyone just follows everyone on Instagram, but you don't genuinely know what they're up to. Do you remember people know what I'm up to because I fucking post everything.

I feel like. I also unfollowed a ton of people from high school. My 15 year high school. Yeah. My 15 year high school reunion was during COVID, which stinks. I just, I really like my class.

I think that there's a lot of good, I think there's probably a lot of successful people out of it. I just don't really know where they're at. Yeah. You know? I know my friends, they're all doing great. I don't even know. Let's see, I graduated high school in 2007.

That 20 years closer than I wanted to do. Big Rob. He's a nightmare. He's a legend. My friends are all the guys that we did that big Cedar trip with. There you go. So we all stay pretty tight. But again, it's a small crew,

handful guys. It's all like, it's all group chats now. Like the guys that I was close to, close to, that's all that it is. And we'll see each other occasionally, but like people don't get together anymore, I feel like. Yeah, I'm obviously like way closer with my boys from my high school and one like right across street from our child at home, St. Louis, all that. Then I am like, even my prep school guys, everybody goes their different direction. Everybody was boarding school, you're from different towns. True.

You don't really shoot each other. Whereas now, like the crew that I did that big Cedar trip with a month ago, it's like those are my best friends from fourth grade. you know right that kind of that kind of crew wow heartwarming show yeah trip down memory lane yeah so essentially we're all from so many like to such different places you don't know all different we all have a full history each one of us weird every person you pass has a full history everybody we had this clip in a breaking 90 not breaking 90 of barcel golfs with rico i said miss reed second grade teacher it's like a fucking dumb joke when you miss putt yeah

And then we went on talking about it. And I said I was in second grade, but I was actually in sixth grade. I just kept going with joke. In sixth grade, I used to go in. There was a teacher. I'm like I say her name. She had big boobs. Boops.

In sixth grade, you're obviously like, you're looking at this stuff. For sure. In the clip, I said second. Everyone was like, that's sick. That's sick. You're eight years old. I think even like my parents were like, that's sick. So I would go in.

I would actually go into the room. And I remember it was like it was Earth science and it was in the corner and wind would fucking whip into that. So every time you open the windows in the winter or the fall, it would freeze that place up. I used to get in there early and fucking open up the windows just to get the pokey's on. No, you didn't. Swear it. That is sick. It was premeditated.

It was premeditated to like, because we knew that it affected it. That is sick. It was nuts. I think that makes my dancing comment. Fine. I think we're all right. I think we're in the clear. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, no, you got a little sicko in you. You got a sicker. That's insane, man. Your guys hormones must have been out of control. Well, I was actually gonna. Bro, you're starting like dances, like you're going to six grade. Oh, sixth grade is when it starts.

Six grade dances and you're in the grind line. Yeah. That's when you start getting the, bro, the grind line. Just fucking. You can get the grind line. No, no. With a little fucking, I'm like, I'm like that little, you ever see that fucking kid at the soccer game?

where he's like, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I, I, we start, we, we grind the best of all. But we didn't have, there was a, there wasn't a grind line. Yeah, it was trained. Yeah, dude, it would be wreck night. And there'd be like, you know, there's a room where they'd have like a fuck. You'd play basketball and then whatever.

And then you'd go in like the cafeteria, the lights would be off. And they'd have like a little DJ. And then people would get in the corn. They'd just fucking grind. And then you'd get fucking separated. But the grind lines were insane. Like I'm saying, we would. grind but we wouldn't have lines

bro it would be like seven or eight people in a row and you just fucking stop doing that motion no that was the best sixth grade up up through like sophomore like all the way through you're like this dance I'm just going to grind my dick off yeah and it's

gonna be awesome you're like horned up the whole man now we're really talking high school in seventh grade eighth grade we get we'd like you got every wall dance you ever get a wall dance You ever get a wall dance? Yeah. Those are bad.

I don't know if I got them. I used to look at them. Standing up against a wall. Yeah, I was even more pathetic than I am now in sixth grade. More of a viewing experience. I mean, in sixth,

seven, the eighth grade, the girls weren't looking towards the kid that looked like he was in second. That's not, that's not what was happening. I think they're looking more towards like what's actually happening above us.

True. You know? Yeah. All those like, there was all those kids that looked like they were 30 when they were fucking, yeah.

Like nine. Man, The wall dance was basically just like a paid lap dance. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Pushing you into the fucking dry wall. You're like poking holes into it.

Yeah. It's also when I first started smoking weed and you would start to go to these, you'd go to these places now really stoned and it changed everything in like a weird way. You just like walking in. You're like, I think everybody knows. Yeah. Scary times. It's definitely open your eyes.

One kid had a party at a house. The whole entire school went there and it wasn't his house. It was somebody else's. a random house. Oh my God. It was unbelievable. Just thinking back to just like the dumb shit that people do. I'm proud to say that I was the party house in my high school.

Your parents were the one. You were the one. Cool parents? Yeah, they weren't cool. They would just, they would go away on these trips. And I actually lived right by the school. It was like right across the street basically.

There's a baseball field and then there's the school and we lived right next to the baseball stadium or the baseball field. And what we would do, the reason why it made sense was because parties would always get caught when there'd be so many cars out front. And all we would do is we created a shuttle. system where we would shuttle people down. They'd park in the school parking lot and we'd shuttle

people up so it would look like there's nobody there. And we would just throw ragers. It was fun. That's fun to have the party house. That was one of them. There were a few, but I was definitely one of them. We had some functions out in that back area where we did the podcast. Oh, I'm sure.

Yeah. Those are functions. Yeah, my parties. Functions. We had some functions out there. Black tie gala's back. Events. Valet.

We kind of ran a valet. We would, uh, we would, uh, we would, uh, how people go around the side so they wouldn't have to go in the house they would just go around the back gate it was great Larkin parking I was a valet for Larkin parking Larkin parking

What's my high school valet? Oh yeah, I became the manager But I did I worked in an Italian restaurant I went in high school Biagi's Boss boy Welcome to Borrelia's

Can you get you guys any of a drink? I think I've told us to about I did seriously the amateur car one car back into another ice car no it was okay car okay that's fine it's probably Toyota carola type of car like an Uber car but yeah it was late the day we had this parking lot that was the Valley lot I didn't think there any cars behind so I just reversed it without even really looking right into another car that must spend a loud fuck that sucks yeah it's really negative and then the owner was like we got insurance for that's fine yeah

I crashed into my wife's car the other day I didn't think I thought that the car was in park. Really? Nothing happens to the cars, though. No, they're fine. I guess the car kind of stopped on its own, like a last defense. It was rolling, and it just stopped. And, beep, beep.

And, but I definitely hit her bumper. Never happened to me before. These new things with like the little, the buttons you got to hit instead of having like a fucking gear. Yeah. I didn't realize it wasn't a park. It's a bad feeling hitting anything. I don't like the buttons and I don't like, I was talking to Bush about this.

My rental car this week doesn't have a crank for the volume. You have to fucking, it's like a touch screen for the, to turn the volume. It's dangerous. Come on. Like, fuck that. No, that's shit. Oh, I know you're talking about those. Some of these places, some of these cars, the knob, it's the knob is to turn it into park.

Oh, yeah. And you think it's the volume. I've done that on this minivan. My park's like a flick. It's nuts. And it starts beeping, right? Yeah, I put it in neutral while we're driving down the highway. Yeah.

I thought I was just turning the value up. Like, it's really dangerous. I never do that into like reverse or something? We would have died, I think. The transmission just would have exploded. It's dead. Luckily, I didn't, I wasn't cranking the bottom. A car go into like or let's stop it.

Like if you like accidentally throw a car into park when you're driving 70 miles an hour, what will happen? I think it's got to have mechanisms. They gotta be prepared for that, hopefully. I wouldn't think so, but maybe not. Newer ones probably. I mean, you would just die. We got to drive coming up.

Yeah, let's try. Just give it a try. I'm gonna drive to Aaron Hills. Talk to Mike Essie. I can't wait. I'm excited to get to Aaron Hills. Let's get there before sunset. We can enjoy a nice little.

It's starting to get hot in this room. This room's hot. How long we've been going? wish. Hour 25. Oh, wow. Holy shit. That flew.

Good stuff. Talking about high school, man. That's fun. All right. Well, yeah, the Lido, amazing. Rider Cup, going to be fantastic. We're off to Aaron Hills, so we'll make sure we include talking about how great Aaron Hills is on the next show,

but one of our favorite places, so I'm pumped to get there. Yeah, we filmed a million videos. We're going to film more. People are going to love it. And I think it's all I got. Anybody? Anything else? No.

Really good golf course. Just wish it was on Long Island, but an amazing place here at St. San Valley. San Valley is pretty fun. Yeah, if you want an all-time, all-time golf experience, you come here. Yeah, it's pretty, and I think it's reasonable to get to. You can fly it's really reasonable.

You can fly to Madison from a lot of places in the country. Hour and a half? If not, what is it from Milwaukee, like two hours? Something like that. Chicago's like three. So it's not as hard to get to his band. The middle of the country, too, so the flights aren't that long for almost anybody. That's what BC was telling me today was that that was one of the reasons why he moved here

from band. was that when they had kids and his wife, which is too hard to get in and out. Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Whereas, yeah, from almost anywhere in the country, you can get here pretty reasonable. Yeah, it's right in the middle. Yeah, incredible, incredible spot.

They're building these massive houses and cottages all over the place around these lakes. It's interesting to be at a place that's in, even though there's almost four golf courses here now once the Sege Valley opens up next year, which is another time of course they're opening here, they're going to have four and a half golf courses. course if you include the part three and it still feels like this place is in its infancy

say it's a little bit it's something under the radar i feel like maybe it's because like bandin and piner's type like such a dominant like force but i mean even big cedar was the same way where i feel like i didn't know that they had all this stuff yeah where and see when you go to piner's we love the village and how old it is but like that's pretty much done like it's been there the you know and whereas now when you drive you're literally watching stuff being built yeah they could build 10 courses out of here. There's so much space. So much sand.

So much sand. There's a huge sand mound out there. I still have no idea how grass grows on sand. Yeah, I don't know. Just thought you needed soil. That's a really good question. They say like sandy soil, right? It's not like pure sand. There's definitely some dirt, I think.

So I guess a ton of sand and then they got to put some soil on top of the sand. Yeah. Obviously. Yeah. There's grass out there. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I don't know. Right.

But who, what's the guy from the Martian? He grew potato. without soil. He uses his own feces and he used Mars like sand. Matt Duttonist. Botanist. It's a good movie. That is a good movie because you learn so much.

Yeah, bullshit that it won the Oscar for Best Comedy that year. Yeah, that was. They won the Oscar for Best Comedy? Yeah, I'm 99% sure. Golden Globe. Couldn't have been the Oscar. Oscar doesn't have a best comedy. Yeah, that doesn't I don't think it's a Golden Globe. Oh, maybe it was a Golden Globe. Yeah, I think it was a Golden Globe.

Whatever the most renowned They just threw them They threw them something Right Yeah Because it wasn't gonna win Great movie What was that year

What was that year? What did something like sleep that year? Let's call it 2015 That actually sounds right The Martian won the Golden Globe For Best Comedy 2016

Close enough Fucker Yeah that's He had two of those roles Like right at the same time Because he was the The astronaut Intersteller

Nominated for for seven Academy Awards. And one zero. Zero. That interstellar one comes out of nowhere. And the Golden Globes changed the comedy rules after the controversial Martian win. How to be funny? What was the,

how they changed it? Had to be funny. Well, yeah, because it's a drama, right? It's more lighthearted than you would think a guy getting trapped on Mars is, but it's not a comedy. Yeah,

those parts when he's talking to like the video screen himself are very funny. Right. So it's not very, but they're funny. But yeah. But every movie has, most movies have some levity. It beat the big short. It beat Joy, train wreck.

I guess those aren't there. Spotlight won the best picture that year. It's a good movie. Mad Max won six Academy Awards. I didn't really get that movie. Mad Max won six Academy Awards. I guess from like the visual. Yeah, that world that they're like, wow, in the costume and all that shit.

People love that stuff that are, but I don't get it. I never saw Spotlight. No? No. I think you'd like it. Judd Apatow wrote, trying to dominate the comedy category when you are really a drama,

afraid of dramatic competition is a punk move. Ooh. I think that's weird that out. He's got some comedy sway. He's got some... He had a movie out there. I think he was train rack. Yeah.

Nice. Good memory. We're now in a race against the producers because I think the camera's going to die. Oh. We lost it? No, we just ran out of... We lost a golf course.

Space on there. Let's get out of here. Let's get the hell of it. put the fuck out of here thanks to sand valley incredible trip highly recommend the videos are going to be insane uh we'll be back early next week and we'll just do this bullshit again talk about some high school hit it hard hit it hard hit hard it hard fuck