Fore Play - The Lone Island Boy feat. Aaron Wise

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

Aaron Wise (00:20:52) joins the show. Someone on the podcast is going to Hawaii alone. Riggs announces his Black Friday & Cyber Monday winners. Frankie takes a wildly unnecessary shot at another golf podcaster. It’s our final show of the year — Happy New Year, everyone, and thanks for the support.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot, his name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he was nice to the cross the green. Nice to be here, boys.

Congratulations on all that you're doing is as mediocre as a little bit of. it is. Brok 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool.

We appreciate it. After watching you this year, I'm very much thinking about getting so I have a fusion surgery. Skip that. I was like, hey, Phil, you own me fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. Oh, my God.

Take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you guys fishing with that? It's ain't a hobby. Four play, brought to you by Barcelona Sports, by our very awesome, excellent EV in EUV specialist partner Chevrolet. This will be a New Year's episode. So this will be our final episode before the end of the year.

We've got a great interview with Aaron Wise. We're doing the future thing, which we're not great at historically, where we are recording this on December 20th, 2020. But it's coming out on December 27th, 2022. So if we slip up... They won't hear us until next year. After this is the one that's yeah when this comes out I will be on an island Yeah, are you talking about that I don't know I'll be on the same island I haven't really

I haven't really talked about where are you going I'm going to Maui with who me? We're going to hang out though Trent on oh shit Dan Rapoport's going to be there I we are We're going to say you're not going to see you're not playing golf no we're playing golf We're playing golf. We're playing golf. This might be the biggest white gold white flag red flag that's going on right now if you think that Trent Ryan is playing golf with you in Hawaii during seven in the morning. If you're going to bail one day, are you fucking crazy? If you're going to bail, do it now. If you're going to bail, do it now. If you're going to bail do it now because it is like across the island. So if you're going to bail, you got you're not going to answer you. You got a free. You got a free get out of jail. No,

won't hold it against you. But if you're going to bail, please do it now. You're not golfing with Dan Rapaport in Hawaii. You know you're not. I want to say a couple things. This incredible move, by the way, going to Maui by yourself. This is the first real vacation I've taken since having this job. I've been here coming up on nine years. And I just, a lot of it, I want to be by myself. That's kind of why I'm going by myself. I've told a lot of a few people like, oh, this is what I'm doing over Christmas.

And they're like, oh, that's great. Who are you going with? And when I just say me, the reactions are, they're stunned. But what it comes down to, and this is the dead honest truth. I'm going with the person I like to spend the most time with. That's that's yours truly. So, you know, Dan, about golf.

Just do it. Say no. Just pull the plug, dude. Just pull the plug. No way. It's easier right now. Because just do it. Just do it.

He's going to be texting you and shit. It is, it's a little early for me. All right. You're going to be gone. That night before you're going to be, it's going to be exciting on just not showing up. Getting ready to fire on another movie and you're going to be. He was planning on. not,

he was planning on just not showing up. No, I would never, I would not do that. I, I am, I'm flaky, but I'm not that flaky. Um,

is it going to be a problem if I bail? No. I told you honestly that you can bail, but you got to do it now. I'm out. Don't make them do it now. All right. I appreciate the offer,

but again, I, I really, I'm just going to just hang out. I totally understand. I don't do well with plans. If I, if I did well with plans,

I'd be taking people with me, but I just, you know, we're playing, just for the record, everybody, we're playing a Capulua plantation course one week before the PGA tour event. So it's not like we were just going to go play like a local unit. I'd shoot

150 there. Trent's out, dude. He is out. It's out. I actually feel strangely a weight off my shoulders. So. I'm happy for Trent, man. I was feeling a weight on his shoulders. He was never going to that run of golf, dude. Looming round of golf with Dan Rappaport that he just

doesn't want to go. And my dad. And my dad. It's like he doesn't want to go to that. All respect to the Rappapaport's. He just wasn't Oh, I want to be clear that I appreciate the offer, and it clearly schedule-wise, it would have worked because who will be shit? Who would have thought we'd both be on Maui at the same time to play golf together? But it's coming at a time where I just want to do nothing, which is a lot of the time,

but I'm going to be specifically in Hawaii doing nothing. I like that Dan Rapaport's going to be in Hawaii, and we're all like, yeah, of course he is, like whatever. Trent's going to Hawaii. We're like, what? Yeah. What are you going to do for dinner? Hawaii.

That's going to be the weirdest part because one of my inspirations for this solo trip is... Forgetting Sarah Marshall? No. Is Noah from Chicks in the Office? Because Noah has, he's done a solo trip. I think he went to Costa Rica. And he said it's great. You know, you get to do it every one all the time.

He did say the one weird part is dinner. Super awkward. Because I got to go to these places by myself, which I'm comfortable with. I... Go to the bar. Yeah, I'll just go to the bar or whatever. but I'll figure it out when I get there. You're not going to a resort, right?

Because that's legit for getting Sarah Marshall. If you have to show up to like the resort dinners where it's like you have to make a reservation, it's all part of the package. And like you're sitting down there. I go table for one. Trent's going to be a B character in White Lotus season three. Jonah Hillier's like I'll go fuck myself. Yeah. No, it's not.

There's not going to be like resort dinner. No. So you get to make your own decisions for dinner. You could choose to just eat wherever you want. It's going to be an interesting experiment. I've never done something like this. I'm pretty pumped about it, if we're being honest. It's going to be exciting.

Totally. I think I'm doing it the way that I want to do it. So that's going to work out in the end for me, I believe. Yeah, I mean, you're not going to have a bad time. You're going to Maui. I know, yeah. It's going to be good. You're going to have a fucking amazing time.

New Year, New Year, New You coming up. There should be a lot of resolutions. Resolution. Is that right? New Year's resolution? Yeah, that's right. Right in line with that should be an EV. You should put that puppy on your radar.

You should put that. Have that come across your desk. We're having to come across your desk right now. EVs are for everyone everywhere nowadays, and that's because Chevy is doing it so well, and they're not just doing it with electric vehicles. They're doing it by taking their classic lines of vehicles, cars, trucks, SUV, sedans that you've known to come in love,

and they are now offering them in the EV and EUV variety, which is phenomenal. That's correct. The best lineup you can possibly imagine. American made man just they're just paving the way for the future we say every day we wake up we're closer to that end game of the future like when are we going to be there the Chevy's just propelling us there they're affordable you don't have to be rich to have an EV they've got the bolt EV and the bolt EUV which we had on the T-box at the barstall classic championship you can go buy those now you can reserve now the blazer EV and the silverado EV that's their established full-line

brand of Chevroletes. We can offer multiple EV vehicles with the value and the variety and the value of customers all over this planet have come to expect Chevy EVs for everyone everywhere. I got a couple announcements. One, we got a couple videos this week. So even though, you know, Barstall Sports is pretty much closed. A lot of the world shut down. People are on vacation.

Our editors don't stop. We got Breaking 90 coming out tonight. That's Tuesday, the 27th of December. December, and this is an attempt from Trent Ryan after spending a few days grinding down in Georgia with our guy, J-Tillery, and with Frank Borrelli. Does it, does it end? Is this how the year ends? Does it end tonight?

Do I? What a, what a way to cap off 2020. Now, I'm not going to, it's impossible to promote breaking 90. We say it's all the time. People say I blow my load too early all the time, but it's impossible. Like, I think someone came up to me. who came up to me recently was like you only get one of those like must watchers who was that francis francis was mad at the fact that i said tonight's a must watch breaking 90 this was a couple

weeks ago he's because now i'm getting excited i'm so invested in breaking 90 that when you said that i cleared my schedule i sat down and i watched him attempt breaking 90 thinking he was going to do it and he didn't i said well francis like that's number one a tease and number two like you can't say if he did it or didn't do it because then that's going to ruin the whole series you have to say like, all right, tonight's a big night. You don't know. It's really the only show like it in that respect. Right. Like you don't watch a Netflix show thinking like, oh, I don't know how many episodes.

This is. It could end tonight. Like even on a show like Survivor or The Bachelor, everything has to play out. And there's never an episode where it's this could be the end. So it's a tough thing to promote in that way. So at this point, you've seen, if you're listening to this, last night's incredible premiere of the T's for breaking 90 tonight. We had a list of, I would say, the most important influential people in golf, all wishing

Trent well, wishes, and good luck on his attempt tonight to break 90. We had Justin Thomas, Colin Morikawa, Freddie couples, Kevin Kisner, Dewey, Joey La Cava, Joey La Cava, he was, Joel Damon, Max Homa. It's an unbelievable video. Who's the little guy from subpar? Colt knows. That was honestly, I didn't mean to say that that mean because I couldn't think of his name. Bro, that's about his middle guy.

Who's that widow guy from subpar? I knew he would get a laugh at you guys. And he knows that I'm allowed to say that to him. But I really couldn't think of his name because my brain is fucking whatever. It's a crazy, crazy, crazy video. It's an insane video. All these guys, Justin Thomas, legitimately, I'm like, hey man. I'm going out with Trent right now.

We're about to break 90. Try and break 90. Do you mind like saying good luck to him? I'm trying to make this funny video really quick. And he messaged me back within a second. He goes, dude, absolutely. And he sent, his video alone was like a minute and a half saying like, if I caddied for you today, I could definitely like maneuver you around the golf course.

We would shoot 85. No problem. But today it's all on you, Trent. Just take your time. Hit your show. I'm like, dude, I'm watching this on my phone being like, that's Justin. Tom is saying this. I remember when you...

What the fuck? So you show it to me and the first face I saw was Colin Morikawa. And I was like, what's going on right now? Looking clean, too, if I know. He's like straight out of the hair cut. Right, it was probably like the morning of his wedding. He looked so good. I asked a bunch of guys.

Obviously, Danny was huge for that. Riggs got a lot of guys. Oh, Brock Nelson. American Hero is in there. He's just like swing smooth. Slow is smooth. Smooth as fast. At the end of the day, I wanted to get as many people in our universe that we could get.

And it's a lot. And the video's long. So I was like, fuck, these guys really all went in on it. Robbie Burger. Robbie Burger went in on it. It's an amazing video. And then I remember I asked Harry Higgs and he saw it too late. And he was like, dude, can I please send in this video?

And I just like haven't gotten back to him saying like, are you missed the boat? But his would have been great too. Everyone wants Trent to break 90. It's such an amazing time to be alive. the fact that this guy out here is about to attempt this attempt, and you have all these people in the PGA tour. I mean, Freddie Couples was like, you got to do this. You have to, you have to break 90.

That is a big one. I mean, that's like the biggest name that we've had associated with our podcast in a long time. I mean, it's funny couples. I was stunned when he popped up. I was stunned. Pretty fucking couples. So that's tonight. What time we're doing that?

Eight o'clock. We got to do a big premiere for this, no? Eight o'clock. I like the eight o'clock Tuesday night ones. I think those are good. Yeah. Eight o'clock. Oh, God.

Send us into the new year. Trent Ryan. We're down there with J.T. again. Some of the big moments that happened in there. I'm just thinking back. Fuck. It's just a good video. It's a good video.

Watch that tonight. And then we've got Aaron Wise on this show. He's going to be the whole second half of the show. And then I got announced a couple of winners. So I have winners from Cyber Monday, Black Friday, which we did three nights stay at the Pinehurst House is one of them. And then I'm going to bring foursome out at Greyhawks. If we can't set up Greyhawk because of proximity, then we'll do somewhere equally as awesome closer to the person,

but it'll be totally up to them. So my two winners are Black Friday. We got Scott Hutchinson from Illinois. We're going to contact you. And from the Cyber Monday, which is the Greyhawk ground, we got Sean Doyle, who's from Massachusetts. So if they're coming out to Arizona, the next year or two, we could set the whole thing up if they want to come out.

Congratulations for this. we'll set it up. And then obviously Scott will set it up with your crew where you go stay at the Pioneer's House, three nights. Have a great time. I'll help you sit up as much golf as I can. Thank you to everybody who buys merchandise. The amount of merchandise that we sling, that we sell that we see all over the world is fucking crazy.

It's nuts that we started this thing basically six years ago in the back of a studio in the main office, just trying not to get yelled at by Dave and doing it at like 10 o'clock at night to the point now we're selling as much merchandise and slinging all the items that we are. and that's because all the people that are out there listening and buying stuff. So we appreciate the hell out of you. It's like the least that we could possibly do is come up with some of these items and prizes where you get to stay at our house or have dinner with us or play golf with us. That's so easy.

We like to play golf. So Sean Doyle, Massachusetts, that's our Greyhawk round winner. And then Scott Hutchinson, Illinois, that's our Pioneer's winner. Awesome. My guy who I sent that fucking bag to you never thanked me. So, you know, why even do it from him? That's not very nice. No social points.

No, it's just like, come on, dude. I want at least a message that you got it. You know? Yeah. He was so excited to get it. And now I'm thinking, do I sense the wrong place? Are you sure he got it?

Are you sure that it was delivered? Yeah. I don't know. I just dropped it off at a place, spent a ton of money to give it to them. I think it's still could happen. I don't think he's gotten it yet. I'm hoping. That's exciting stuff.

I like giving my things. I do. But I like the response more. Like, the guy who got the wedgers, like, dude, this is the greatest wedge I've ever got. Thank you so much. And that got me hard. Yeah.

And then Thursday, we've got Big Cedar Lodge travel series starts right up. So YouTube channel is not slowing down from the break of 90 tonight until, or right into Thursday night. Boom, Big Cedar Lodge travel series. Holy shit. We're just right back at it. So we're just ripping right three. And we're rolling right into 23. We got a bunch of huge things playing on.

What date is that? I'm really fired up for what's coming. That's going to come out, Big Cedar. That's right. I think that's the best travel series. we've ever done. We've gone to, just because of like the camaraderie and like,

I don't know, I mean, we already tweeted about it. So, Lurch comes back. It's like everything about it just felt very much like a good trip. Obviously, the Scotland series is the best, like,

videos we've ever done. If you haven't watched those yet, you're insane. The videography, the cinematography, everything that Brendan and his team have done is insane. We've done a, every single one of them has been good,

but this one just felt different. It's a good location, I loved Big Cedar. Well, you love Paines Valley a lot. I loved where we stayed. I loved looking over the fucking waterfall. I love the fact that... I think Big Cedar's going to blow people away.

Like, people know about Bandon. People know about Scotland and it's still really cool to see it. Totally. I think people, like, the reason we too were like the camaraderie, Lurch returning after all the drama and the hilarity was great. Dan and Lurch being in there together was great. We did alternate shot one round, which is incredible. In essence, it seems the best, I think.

being shocked by big Cedar Lodge was a huge part of it. Like the whole thing was just fucking amazing what that topography looks like that part of the world looks like. We did water ski and we tried to get Frankie water ski.

Oh my God. I forgot about that. We went tubing, dude. There's all time tubing clips. Like this was just a great all around travel series. Yeah,

it is. We definitely had more, it was just more fun. It was just different. That place is fun. That place is. playground it's a playground it's not just golf and those golf courses too pain's valley and ozarks national was incredible also i thought that was just as good as pains valley so just

three bangers i know phenomenal what are we starting the first episode is probably our weakest one what is it just like top of the rock which is still an incredible par three course so like watch that for big bounce background for rigs big bounce that was a huge bounce back that that is worth to watch that that's worth of myrtle beach like came in wanting to play well uh and it's really cool visuals three and we get into it so anyways Thursday night big cedar lodge Tuesday night breaking 90 we got Aaron wise who's never been on the show coming up next happy new year to everybody out there thank you for listening following the entire year it's been awesome we're not going to bog you down with a recap or let's go through the whole deal we did a good amount of that with Kyle Porter who was great and we're just going

to slingshot our asses right into 2023 so be safe be smart enjoy your new year we'll be back next week hit it hard hit hard hit hard working out getting exercise, working on that body, Peloton. That's what we're talking about here. I don't think anyone on the show has really fully all in committed on the Peloton up to this point. Like we probably have one in our building. We have one in our building. I use it like once a week, twice a week.

Frankie? Yeah, I have a Peloton. It's been a love-hate relationship, but that has nothing to do with the actual mechanics of the bike. I love it when I use it. I hate it when I when I just look at it and sometimes it becomes like a clotheshanger. But I will tell you this that when I am using it, I feel incredible. I'm a big like music person. Every time I do things, I need to be listening to music.

So the fact that I would find my specific categories, whether it be like the rock rides or like an R&B ride or they would be as specific as a foo fighters ride. You can literally just type in food fighters and they know that like the pretenders coming in on your like second leg of this of this journey and you're just like wow i am absolutely going to be going balls to the wall when that song comes out um it's an amazing it's an amazing piece of technology i mean it looks great in my house i love it i think it's it's a fantastic piece of of machinery the um the instructors right people are crazy about their their specific instructors that they get through the peloton you can get all the different classes through the screen and all that's that

it depends on what you yeah whatever you like to look at alley love there's a Emma is one of a personal favorites that shares the name with my fiance. Yeah, it's one of those things where every time I do it, every time I do it, I am like, why don't I do this every single day? My life would be so much better if I started every morning with a Peloton class. Who's the other guy? Cody Biggsby. Is that the other guy? Cody, Cody is one of the guys. Alex Toussaint is Alex Tucson and Justin Thomas are boys. Interesting. So there's like, yeah, there's these like communities that build online. You'll send me, Brock Nelson will send me like his stats and he's like top 100 out of 60,000 rides, riders.

checks out, which checks out. Which is just fucking insane. He's just ripping a professional athlete. We had a bet that if I ever beat his wife in a race or a ride that we bolted on the same one, that she would get him like a golf simulator. And he's like, will you do this for me? And I was like, I'll try. And she never even came close.

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So that's one peloton.com slash home dash trial. Go check them out. Anyone I know who uses this puppy frequently just raves about it, how great it is for you. So I'm going to get on the Peloton train. I haven't really done that yet. That's on me. That's going to be part of my resolution. But go check it out.

Phenomenal machine. Those that do use it, rave about it. All right, folks, we're joined for the very first time. PJ Tour winner, Aaron Wise. I'm going to start. We were just talking a little bit about Japan. I'm going to start and quiz you. Do you know your current official world golf ranking?

34th last time I checked. Went down to 33rd this week, actually. Oh, new best, new PR. I love it. I feel like the weeks I don't play, I keep moving up. So that might be my new strategy. How much do you check that? I mean, because obviously, I mean, if there was a world ranking of,

of golf bloggers, I think that it would be my home page on my computer. Yeah, I feel like I check it often if I've played like the week before to see kind of where I've moved after I've played. On off weeks, I don't check it a whole lot. So I looked it up. There's about 8 billion people on the planet. There's about 70 million people that play golf and you're the 33rd best out of all of them. Does that feel kind of crazy?

It does. Yeah. When you put it that way, it's pretty nuts. Because, like, man, we, I know Dan, too, like, we play a good amount of golf with some pretty good players. Most people suck. But you play golf with some pretty good players, corn fairy tour, people that have played, qualified for U.S. Opens. And they're really, really, really good.

And they're nowhere near as good as you are at this game. It's crazy to think about. Yeah. No, it's pretty nuts. And I feel like when you play your home course, it's hard to tell a lot of really good players apart, right? But when you get out there and you set it up for a PGA tour event or whatever, it makes a big difference. So I got to ask you about the college football playoff.

I was going through a couple of your tweets. I noticed that you're not a huge fan of OSU making it in over Alabama. Is that correct? Yeah. I just as an Oregon guy, why do you feel strongly about that? I was surprised that, yeah. Not necessarily an Oregon guy. I'm more just a college football fan.

I feel like if you truly ask anyone right now who could be Georgia. I think there's only one real answer. And to me, it's Alabama's the only other team with the same kind of athletes on it that could match up. And I get there are two loss, but both their losses were on the road. They were both the top 10 teams in the country, and they were both on final plays of the game. So I feel like leaving them out is a little unfair. Obviously, I don't feel like OSU doesn't deserve a shot either because, I mean, they only had one loss to Michigan. I feel like that conference is tough to tell because really,

there was only two good teams and they played each other once. You know, Penn State wasn't quite as good this year. Some of the other teams that are normally a little better weren't quite as good. So that conference is tricky, but I'm a huge fan of the expanded playoffs for college football. I think going to more teams will be way better. I think with four, there's always kind of one team where you're like, well, if they were in, they might have had a shot to win and at least that'll get rid of that. Yeah, our producer who's behind the scenes right now is like jerking himself off basically because

he's a huge Alabama guy. And so having you just go to bat for him right now, he's pretty pumped. I was loving it because I'm scrolling through your Twitter account. It's like promo and like excited to play here. And then just like a handful of tweets being like if Alabama doesn't get in over Ohio State. I mean, a few weeks ago I saw once Ohio State lost, which to me was a or yeah, it was a horrible loss at home, got blown out, wasn't much of the game. To me, after that loss, rankings came out and they were ranked above Bama. I mean, you could just tell what was happening. And I was just a little bit frustrated by it because I feel like, I mean, Alabama lost two games by a combined four points with both being on the road.

And Ohio State got thomped at home. Yeah, it is, I think you make a good point because it is more, it seems like more of everyone wants to use the criteria of like, did their resume earn it and not just who's the best team. I think that was a big point. Just put Alabama against Georgia to start the year. Why don't we just look at who's got the best roster? That's true. That's true. I wanted to ask you about when you do tweet that, when you fire those tweets off,

because obviously the other tweets are, I would imagine that's a conversation with management, right? You're like, ah, you know, let's tweet this. Is your agent calling you like, dude, stop being a crazy college football fan online, or do they let you have free reign? No, no, I have free reign overall social media, kind of everything I post. And it's one of those things you know when you post it, you're going to get blowback, right? or just feedback in general of other people's opinions. And I definitely think before I post something, am I going to welcome that?

And especially in the college football world, I feel like I'm knowledgeable enough to take their comments and then give them counterpoints and try, you know, just have a good conversation about it is really all I'm trying to do. Yeah, I mean, that's the world we live in. So, yeah, you're definitely going to get some, I mean, it gets the juices going. You see some people replying and disagreeing,

and you're sitting in like an Uber, you're sitting at your couch, and you're like, look at this idiot. who thinks oh it's like it's just you know no one's right or wrong it's just all your personal thoughts and i love to just kind of hear different opinions and whatnot like like a great example was everyone was like well you're not giving USC a chance and i'm just i'm looking at USC's final schedule of they had to play UCLA still they had to play the pack 12 championship game i'm like i just don't see a pack 12 team winning out like there was too many top heavy teams in the pack 12 for someone to

get out this year in my opinion so If you could, we talked about how good you are at the game of golf, which I'm sure we'll talk about more. We're talking a lot about football. If you could be just as good at any other sport on earth as you are at the game of golf, which sport would it be? Football. No doubt.

You play you just QB? Yeah, I would love to be the QB of a team. I think that would be awesome. I mean, you're in control of everything. I would love the side of, like, pumping people up, managing the game, like all that I would love. So I think if I could pick any, it would be football. but my body doesn't quite put me in that realm. You did have a pretty epic college experience, though.

I want to talk about this a little bit. You went to Oregon. You guys won the Natty at Eugene Country Club while you were at Oregon. Was it the kind of thing where you were a legend on campus? Because I know when I went to school, I went to Northwestern, no one cared at all about the athletes. Like they couldn't, being an athlete actually probably made you less cool. When you were at Oregon, especially athletes are just golfers. Maybe just golfers, but kind of all.

athletes. It just like wasn't really a thing. Were you like a legend or did people not really care? I feel like the athletics at Oregon is a big thing. Like you do get treated a little bit special there because you are an athlete. So along my whole ride, you definitely get special treatment here, there. But especially, I mean, I left after we won both team and individual that year. But I still had all my friends on the team. So I went back for the next couple years to see them hang out, whatever.

And a lot of the bars were big like golf fans. So then you get treated nicely there. And it definitely made a huge difference on campus once we won that. Just because so many of the fans were out there, so many of the students were out there as fans like for the championship. So they got a big insight into all that. And it was pretty cool. And were you planning on turning pro all along after that year?

Or was it the kind of thing where you won the national championship as a team? You won the national championship as an individual. It's like, what else are we going to do? here. Yeah, I get asked that a lot. No, the plan was to turn pro the whole time. You know, I came back from winter break my sophomore year and I had just played a tournament in Australia called the Masters of the Ams and I was the favorite going in. I felt a bunch of pressure to do it and I ended up winning the tournament and that just something about that tournament kind of clicked my brain into like, all right, I think I can do this at the next level. And I came back and

talk to my coach Casey about it and was able to secure enough funding from deals like with Callaway right out of college and stuff that I had the the money to turn pro and not worry about kind of financials. So at that point, I was all in either way. But the icing on the cake was definitely winning both team and individual there to end it. We, so Eugene and Oregon in general, sneaky big golf state. We were there last year. We did the whole band and thing and then we were driving on our way out of town. And we just kind of happened upon campus, football stadium, the whole, you know, you see in the giant, oh, and it got, I mean, we got the chills.

And we didn't even get inside the stadium because it was, I think they were practicing, so you're not allowed to go in there, film, whatever. But we looked at even like the baseball field, seeing the football stadium, Oregon's kind of got the juice when it comes to just general college athletics, I feel like. You must have, I mean, was that a big. obviously like your background and everything was that a big part of the reason you wanted to go to Oregon 100% you know you can just tell that when you're there like athletic means a lot to them like we were talking about it's not not the same in northwestern but at Oregon it's it's everything and I think

I mean I didn't know why at the time but looking back like they don't really have a football team there they have the Portland trailblazers for basketball but that's about it like university of Oregon is a lot of their athletics for the state like that's what people pay attention to because they don't really have that many pro teams. So I think that's why they're so huge there. But like you said, I mean, you see Austin Stadium and it's just everything about it's incredible. Sick.

You said your coach, Casey Martin, he's kind of a legendary guy in golf, obviously, very famous for the lawsuit with the PGA tour. I don't know if you saw Tiger last week, kind of out of nowhere. It was like, oh, yeah, Casey, I voted against that. I didn't think he should be able to do it. I did see. Yeah, how much was playing for him and his background and his relationship with, I mean, that's, I got to think he's one of the cooler.

college coaches you could possibly have. 100%. He was one of the main reasons I went there, you know, apart from everything else Oregon brings. But he just, I could tell that, I mean, I wasn't the most highly ranked kid out of high school because I didn't have the money to go play all the big tournaments. So I played a lot of like local Southern California stuff and Toyota Tour Cup, huh? Yeah, a lot of Toyota Tour Cup. And then luckily I played really well in, it was one of like the world championships, which is at Torrey Pines down in San Diego. And that's kind of where he recognized. me. But on my visit, you could just kind of tell that he really valued me wanting to be on the team

and valued who I was as a golfer and said, you know, I know you haven't accomplished all these big things, but I see how while you're playing in all these events and how consistent it is. And he truly, you could tell, believe that I was going to help his program, which is not something I necessarily got from a lot of the other coaches. So that part was really cool. But playing for him, I feel like it just developed kind of like you see what he's going through and you see how he handle certain situations and he's one of the most mentally tough people you can ever surround yourself with. And I think just spending two years around that and, you know, Oregon's not known for having the best weather, but to force us to practice through it. And, you know, it created

somewhat of an edge in me where I feel like I'm mentally tougher than I was when I went in there because I went through it all. Yeah, Southern California breed softies. You got to go out and get some hair Big time. Big time. Who's your, I mean, it's been a handful of years now out on tour. Who's kind of your crew? Who's your clique that you hang out with? You know, I moved down to Jupiter two years ago.

So that's gotten in with a lot of the guys down here, like Ricky Brooks. I hang out a lot of like Denny McCarthy and Max Grazerman who's on the Corn Ferry Tour. So there's a good group of guys down here that, you know, translates out there too. But out there, it's so individual. and you're kind of on your own schedule a lot. It's hard. I feel like I know a lot of people and I'm friends with a lot of people, but I wouldn't say I necessarily have that many best friends out there

just because you're so busy trying to practice and prepare and get ready for the tournament. You switched. Go ahead. Sorry, Riggs. You're saying you've got to keep them at arm's length a little bit too. You know, those guys are trying to take your paycheck, pal. I agree, but it's always fun to play with guys.

Like Harold Varner was a perfect example back when I got to play with him a bunch. And I remember I played the, I think the final round of the PGA championship with him at Kiowa. And it was just, I mean, we both played well. It was such an enjoyable experience. So it's nice to be friends with people and to get the good chemistry going. I think you see better scores when you have that. Last time I saw Harold Varner III, he had two beers in his hand at the President's Cup and was trying to get across one of the rope lines because obviously he was already at live. So he wasn't like invited to be there.

It didn't have any special privilege. And he literally was like, oh, Riggs, what's up? But I was like, HV3, what's going on? He's like, I'm just waiting to get across. And he was literally just having a couple of years waiting to get across. Yeah, he's awesome. He's one of my favorite guys in the world. You switch to the broomstick.

Are you still using the long putter? Still I am, yeah. What was the process like for that switch? And was it hard for you as a 25 or 26-year-old guy to make that jump? You know, it's actually, it was an interesting story. I used it. So way back when I first went to college, I was playing really well, but missed a lot of short putts. And Casey being my coach was like, look, I've struggled with the same thing. I've found that this putter helped, being the long putter, helped me with some of the stuff that I've dealt with.

And so I tried it, I think right after the winter break of my freshman year, and I won my first college tournament with it. I think we shot like 40 under par as a team. We broke so many records that week. It was in Hawaii. And then I putted with it probably for another month and a half. And then I started putting bad with it. And I went back to the short putter and I putted good with the short putter. So I stuck with that forever.

And then a year and a half, two years ago, whenever I switched to the long putter, I was again struggling with short putter, forgot all about the long putter because I hadn't used it in five, six years. And one day I just woke up and it clicked in my brain. I'm like, well, I could go back to trying that. So I got it. Obviously, the anchoring band was in, cut it down, I think three inches and went back to putting

with it. And the first day with my putting coach on the green, he was like, you've never putt up with that before? I'm like, well, I put it with it for a month like five years ago, but no, I've never pulled it before. He's like, it looks way better. Like my speed control was instantly better. Short putting, the ball was starting more online.

So I was like, he was like, well, let's give a shot. It can't hurt and put it in right before the playoffs, not this season, but the season before. And putted great, made it to the week before Eastlake, and then just kind of kept rolling with it. And it's really been working well. Honestly, the funny part is part of the reason why I didn't like it was because it was anchored. I felt like the wrist movement was really weird with it being anchored on your, like the follow through. The wrist had like been weird. And now that it's off my chest, I feel like I don't have to do it.

that at all. It's actually way more comfortable. I actually prefer the feeling unanchored, which is pretty funny because I think if it was anchored, I would switch away from it again, but because I don't have to anchor it and I tried it. I love it even more. Well, that's funny because whenever people see someone using the long part of it, they're like, is that anchored? Is that anchored? Well, you, it's definitely not anchored because you're saying that you put better with it not anchored. Yeah, no, I don't want it anchored. People are always like, oh, is it anchored? Or like, you'll get the jokes on the green or whatever. I'm like, I don't want it anchored. Like, it feels way better non-anchored to me.

It also sounds like something. Something that's someone who's anchoring would probably say. Fair enough. Who's like the biggest champion of the broomstick is Adam Scott? Is that that's like our group? Probably burn our wandered would be the most wins. But Adam's up there too. Yeah.

But I'm pretty sure he anchors it, Loki. Wow, that's spicy. Oh, yeah. I would say. I mean, I think most. it pretty close on that yeah keeps it pretty how many broomstick putters do you have how many do you own i probably have like 30 now i always mine is the original one that i got from casey um it's 15 years old and i've tried since i switched to it in the last two years i've tried like 20 25 30 putters to to

beat it out to something a little prettier that looks nicer and i just can't beat it so i'm sticking with it do you bring a bunch of them on the road no i only travel with that one i'll try them all when i'm home but pretty much when i with what i've competed with i haven't really changed aside from the driver in at least two or three years in the same clubs do you don't have a you don't have a club deal situation no i don't and yeah that's always something i'm curious about because you know it's it's no secret that more more guys are kind of going that way as the as the equipment money is probably not the same as it was. And with the purse is so high.

Exactly. You know, a couple hundred thousand dollar deal from a club manufacturer, if you feel like that's going to make you play worse, it's probably not worth the money. What was your thought process like for going in that free agency route? Yeah, it's tough. You know, it's exactly like you said. Part of it is the fact that the companies aren't quite putting out the money they used to.

And then part of it's the fact that we're playing for so much more money than we ever have to where, you know, a stroke when you're up near the top of the leaderboards worth exponentially more than it used to be. So it's tough. For me, I'm a guy who likes to like experiment as weird as that sounds. Like I like to try everything and then I'll put nothing in play. I'm the guy everyone, you know, all the club people hate because I'm like, send me stuff, send me more. I want to try it.

And then I show up with what I had before. But I like testing and knowing that like what I have in the bag is the best stuff for me. So for me to have a club deal, I feel like you get locked into. only that company and say like you're not hitting the three wood as well and you're locked in with tailor made like i feel like it would be awkward to then go test other club stuff because that would be like against your contract so then i'm stuck in like well i'm not hitting the three wood good and i don't know if it's me or if it's not me or if it's the club or if it's not the club or like now if i'm not hitting my through good i go try 10 other companies and if i hit all those bad too then i know

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trying stuff out? I mean, I think there's a time and place for both things. I feel like if you're talking like a driver, for example, I'll use track man and stuff to dial in the launch and spin. But then the real test comes when I go play 18 holes with it and can I hit a baby fade here when I need to?

Can I hit a hard draw here on this hole when I need to? All those things. Those are all feel based. And if you truly feel like, hey, with everything on the line, could I pull this shot off? That's a feel to me. Favorite golf course on the PGA tour? I mean, it's a little bit selfish, but I'd pick Quail Hollow. I loved it from the moment I stepped on it.

And I've just, I've played really well there. I think I've had a second and like two other top 15s in the three years I've played it. and it's just from the moment I stepped on it, I loved it. That's a cool spot. I feel like that's a pretty, that's highly regarded among your co-workers out there. Yeah, I would agree. I mean, it's going to be an elevated event this year too, which is awesome for me. But I think it's just one of the best golf courses we play a great track.

Least favorite golf course on the PJ Tour. Those ones you can always name off quicker, I feel like. mine are all the short kind of corky golf courses so like colonial um sony harboretown like all those are just i feel like the kisner courses you like to rip dog huh you like to just let it fly a little bit yeah i hit i think driver's one of the strengths of my game i hit it far and straight and those kind of take those out of my hands and then when you look at iron play i feel like i'm a great wedge player and i'm a great like like long iron player.

And all those courses, I feel like take driver out of my hand. And then you're like right at the 150 plate hitting like a nine or an eight iron. And that's kind of the weakest part of my iron game. So it kind of like screws me on both ends. So I just try to avoid those if I can. You wanted to add, you've been a pro for I think five or six years now. And you're having tremendous success. You know, you've won a PJ tour event.

You're into all the elevated events. You're top 50 in the world. But there are other younger guys who are who are doing even more. right, who are higher in the world rankings and who are winning at a higher clip. Is it hard for you to not compare yourself to those guys or are those guys, do you use those guys success as a motivator? Well, I mean, both. I definitely compare myself to them and I definitely use it as a motivator.

I mean, there's guys, like I look at guys all the time that I play college golf with Scotty and John Rom are two perfect examples. Like, I feel like we were much more equal back in college. And then now they're definitely a little bit ahead of me. And it's trying to figure out, like, what are they doing better? How did they make a jump that I haven't made? And just trying to get my game up there. But in the long view of things, like golf's all about just you getting better.

You can't always, just because you want it, doesn't mean you're going to get it, right? Like, there's a process. You've got to get better. It's hard to make a 10-stroke jump in a tournament. Like, you're trying to get it one stroke at a time and see where you can kind of pick up little things here or there to get better. So that's kind of what I'm focused on, especially in these off-season. reasons is for me it's like I hit it far but I'm not the farthest so trying to get a little bit more distance trying to hit my irons a little closer those things I think will help me get a little bit

better each round yeah it's interesting because Scotty like Scotty this time last year like hadn't won before no exactly tournaments and six and wins the masters right we could be looking back on this in may and you could have won three times Tony's the same way like struggle to win struggle to win and then something just clicked and he got a little bit of confidence and now he's seen to be winning every time he tees it up. So it's definitely out there. It's amazing how much just a little bit of confidence does for you in this game. Why do you think Cameron Smith didn't yell for when you were at Southern Hills? From what I saw, I saw a video he did yell for. It was just he was into the wind so I didn't hear it. But that was wild. Why? Did that hurt as bad as it

looked like it hurt? No. Got to be honest. No. Just hit the right spot of your head or something? Yeah, it rattled me and I had some ringing in my ears. but then honestly I had like the smallest bump and no real pain from it at all. So I don't know how I got lucky. I mean, there's a million places it could have hit me where it would have hurt way worse. So I'll take my luck and go. We were playing out at Whisper Rock last weekend and a caddy Mikey out there who's awesome, awesome. And on like the first tee, they're telling the story about how a few weeks or a few months before,

he got absolutely drilled by like a hook, T-shot from a different hole. And they're telling the story and we're laughing. And then literally on the first green, a guy's chipping behind him. And our boy shanks one. And it just comes a missile right at Mikey. Luckily, ducked at the very last second. It hit the actual bag. But it was not seven minutes after he told the story about how getting hit with a golf ball.

Someone shanks one and just a missile coming right at him. But luckily, he missed it. Yeah, those are the worst. I mean, getting hit by a golf ball doesn't feel good. No, I've only been hit once. It was off a bounce and it was on the leg. And it did hurt, but it wasn't like excruciating. You've been hit before, Dan?

I've been hit by my middle school golf team. We played like almost exclusively par three courses. And they were, there was like, you know, the T would be, right? These weren't, you know, nothing special. Yeah, some guy like bladed a wedge that hit me like right in the pectoral. But again, it didn't really hurt that bad. I don't know. If you could trade instantly your golf swing for someone else's golf swing in the world,

who would that person be? Rory, no question is asked. I mean, he can hit a golf ball unlike anyone else I've ever seen. Just higher, farther, straighter. It's incredible. Do you remember the first time you played with him? Was that the guy who's like, wowed you the most? Well, I mean, playing with Tiger was the most like, wow,

experience ever, no doubt. I mean, no one will ever rival that. But as far as potential to hit golf shots that no one else can hit, yeah, Rory's definitely leads that category by far. Yeah. I, uh, you ever try to copy anybody else? You ever watch anybody else and experiment by trying to do what somebody else does? Yeah, I watch a lot.

I mean, I'm kind of like a golf nerd, like even with equipment, with golf swings, everything. Like, I look at a lot of other people. stuff and take what I can kind of use from it and see if it works for me or not. But there's a lot of people I study basically all like the top 20 players in the world. I'll look at all their stuff all the time, seeing what they're doing. Maybe it's like maybe it's even, I don't know a good example, but maybe it's one of the top players in the world who's going through a slump and I'll try to figure out like for myself, like what are they doing differently now than they were doing when they were playing really well or vice versa. and maybe they're on a heater like Scotty and you're trying to figure out what's clicking so well for him versus what he wasn't doing two years ago, you know?

For a guy like you who wasn't in the top 20 in the PIP, just how big was it to make the Tour championship and to get, you know, to get into those elevated events? Yeah, it's huge. You know, that's one of those things that's interesting. We're still trying to figure out exactly what it all means and how it all works. And I know this year is kind of like an in-between year where we're having the elevated events and then they're trying to make some more changes for next season. So it's all interesting, but it's huge.

Tour championship gave me two-year exemption on tour rather than just one for keeping your card, which is pretty cool, and then get you into, I think, three of the majors, not the British, but then all the other invitationals, which is awesome. And it'll be interesting to see how that balance goes. For me personally, like,

I'm trying to use a little bit of what happened my rookie year. When I made it to the Tour championship, I went the next year, and I played all the big events because I was in them all. And I ended up having a pretty bad year just because you're playing against the best fields on the toughest golf courses. And if you're not sharp, next thing you know, you've got too many miscuts and you haven't made enough FedEx cut points. So coming into this season, I mean, I feel like I'm a lot better golfer than I was three or four years ago when that was. But you're still keeping in mind with the schedule, like just because I'm in all the big events, I still need to sprinkle in some of the smaller ones to be able to earn enough FedEx.

cut points and stuff because it seems like, although this year I was in the top 50 to be in all the big events next year, it seems like this next year is more important for the following year than last year was for this year, if that makes sense. That's interesting what you say about playing against the weaker, like, so that's something that you can feel. It's like, okay, let's say you played at a seven, you know, seven out of ten. If you're playing in a better event, you can like, you know that you'll finish. How do I word this?

It's, you feel like you have to play better when you're playing against the best guys. That's actually like a real thing. It's not just like a luck situation. 100%. I feel like if you're going to win, you're going to win just about any week, right? Like, I feel like whether you win a small event or a big event, if you've played well enough to win, you've probably won whatever tournament you're playing in that week. But as far as if you're playing a little bit off, I feel like if you're playing a really big field,

with all the best, you're going to finish 18th, which might be like an 11th in a worst field just because of how bunched everyone is with all those top guys up there. So at the end of the year, all those FedEx Cup points add up. And if you've only played the biggest events with all the best people, like, that's kind of one concern that I've brought up to the tour is playing these elevated events are great for world rankings because all the best are there. So you get inflated world ranking points. they're great for money because the money's double what you were making.

The difference in the FedEx is not that big. It almost makes better. It almost makes more sense to play the weaker events. You'll finish better on the FedEx Cup points because even if you're getting 50 more points, like that doesn't add up to much when you break that down through a whole field versus getting $500 for playing a smaller event. Do you ever get pissed off on the golf course? You ever break clubs or anything? You're an angry guy out there or no.

I get pissed off. but I don't break clubs. I don't really throw clubs either. I just say some bad words. That'd be my go-to- He doesn't have a club deal, so he's got to be careful with his clubs, you know what I mean?

That's true. That's true. What about your relationship with your caddy? Who guys ever get into it? You guys ever bicker, argue, like brothers? No, they're talking over some shots. We'll disagree. But, I mean, we're both pretty low-key people,

pretty easy-going. There's not too much. much that goes on. There was one time he came to me after a round and he was like, I've never been pissed at you before, but this time I am pissed at you. It was actually from a complete I'll go back. It was

it was this year at WGC which one. The first playoff event, which would have been FedEx. We were playing and we were doing really well in the second round and we ended up. I hit

it, I hit a great like six iron we had like five holes to go. I hit a great six iron and it just didn't cover this bunker and it plugged in the lip. And I chipped it up, made a bogey. We went to the next hole and I hit a great shot. We landed it right on our number again. And it like released through the green over the back into a dead spot. And I made another bogey.

And we had just gone from being like two off the lead to now like we got a part in to make the cut because it was super bunched because it was like a wet bunch of rain. So the field was just super compact. And we got to the next tee and it was kind of like stormy and the wind was swirling. And the wind was supposed to be, I forget, the wind was supposed to be, let's say, in. And we got up to the tee and I'm feeling down. And I kind of looked at him. I was like, I was like, are we playing the wind in here with maybe like a little bit of an attitude because I had just gone bogey bogey when I thought I hit two perfect shots.

And he was like, yeah, like obviously we're playing the wind in. And for some reason he took that like I was kind of. of making fun of him because he thought we had misjudged the wind on the first two holes. And I literally did not mean any bad harm by it. I was just, I'm like, I'm feeling down. And if we're playing in, like it was one of those like dog leg holes where you got your line shifts like 20 yards if it's down or into the wind. You thought you're being sassy.

Yeah, he thought I was being a smart ass. And I was just asking him a real question to make sure we were doing the right thing. And after the round he brought up to me. But I mean, I was I was just honest with him. I'm like, look, there's probably a million other times you should be pissed at me. That's not one of them. I was truly just asking the question the way it could have been asked. But other than that time, no, we're both pretty low-key, pretty good.

Yeah, incredible. I love those dynamics out there. It's just fascinating to me because there's almost no comparable job, professional work relationship in the world to a player in academy. No, the funniest ones between us are always like when I'm a little out of position, and I want to go between, like, say, two trees, and he wants me to chip out. And I've just learned over time, like, just being on tour that, like, chipping out, making the bogey doesn't kill you. You can still make the cut, right?

What kills you is, like, say it's the second round and you're playing well, and you're well inside the cut, but then you go for it, you hit the tree. It goes out of bounds. You make a triple, and now you're on the cut line, and it's like, that's what screws your tournament up, you know? So the one-shot penalty doesn't kill you. So there always be those times where I'm like, I, I know I can pull this shot off 70% of the time.

And he's like, it's just not worth it. And I'm just looking at him like, if you really want me to lay this ball up, I'll lay it up. But I think I can pull it off. Those conversations are always the funniest. You're like, level with me. Give it to me straight. Yeah.

It's funny how it's never the caddy that's like, you know what? I think you got this shot through the trees and then over the branch and then under. It's never the caddy that thinks he's got the shot. But that's kind of what I've told him. You know, it's like, I'm always going to think I can do everything on the golf course. You know, that's what I've practiced for. So I need him in those situations to be the clear-minded person and be like, look, you can still make a par if you hit a wedge shot on the green.

Like, it's not the end of the world. I've just, I've never heard the player being like, dude, no, I'm telling you the plays I chip out here. I'm telling you, man. You never will. If you ever get that on a probe, I'd love to hear it. Well, I mean, it's an interesting. it's an interesting look at you know you have to have that belief if you're the player right otherwise like what are we you're not going to get to the pj tour being the guy who doesn't think he can pull off

the shot so yeah it makes sense to me i like to ask young guys this question because they're young enough to remember is there a moment that you remember about your rookie year you're kind of welcome to the pga tour moment i don't know if it was you know a courtesy car or it was you know walking by someone in the locker room was there a moment where you said yourself like holy shit i'm i'm living my dream right now? I wouldn't say necessarily living my dream. There was one moment I remember my rookie year that didn't necessarily, it wasn't necessarily a welcome to the tour moment, but it was more like realizing what's at stake, if that makes sense. It was Wells Fargo. My rookie year, I was playing great. It was the first time I had ever really been in contention at a PGA tour event to win.

And I remember I had a great Sunday. I finished like, I don't know, three, four holes ahead of the leaders because I was out before him. And I was in the, I was the clubhouse leader. And I remember watching Jason Day was on 17, which is hard part three over the water. And the greens were like rock hard that day. And he hits this six iron or whatever it was that lands middle of the green. And it literally is going just straight in the water long. And I think we were tied at the time.

So I'm like, if this ball goes in the water, I win. This thing like one hops, like two feet short of the pin, nails the flagstick and stops like six inches away for a tapping bird. So it's at least a two-shot swing, maybe a three-shot swing. So I'm like, wow, the tournament was just mine. I'm like, I'm going to make $1.3 million, and now he's clearly going to win because he just made a tapping bird. He's got all the momentum.

And then on top of it, I'm sitting there in the clubhouse watching in the scoring area after. And, of course, they get up to 18. Jason Day hits it on. He, like, lags it up. He's going to win the tournament. And then I think it was Nick Watney, was one stroke behind. behind me in the final group on 18 and he was he hit it to like back of the green it was a front

pin he had like a 60 footer and he hits this thing and it just triple breaks drips in there right in the cup to tie me and I'm like I'm sitting there looking at the labor I'm like that putt just cost me $400,000. I'm like that's when I was kind of like wow there's a lot on the line for these final putts but it was pretty cool pretty cool moment to just be there and like I mean I made like 800 grand that week. It's not the end of the world, but you're sitting there like, what wasn't that bad? What could have been if all that didn't just transpire on the last two holes? Well, it's great. You're thinking about it because we're all thinking about it. I mean, that's the first thing people on golf Twitter are like that putt just because, you know,

once it starts to narrow, you can actually tell the true dollar differences between this ball lipping in and that. So yeah, there's a human element to it. Of course, you're like, I wish that didn't go in or I wish I made another one so I could make another 400 grand. Exactly. Yeah. It's just crazy how. You know, you could be in third and make 800 grand that week, or you could be two shots worse in T-11, then you make 150 grand for the week. It's just crazy how big a difference.

A couple shots makes specifically when you're up near the top. That's very cool. It's a cool thing to be doing. You're way better at this game than we are. I'll tell you that much way, way better. When are you getting going? You're going to be in Hawaii, right? Yeah, yeah.

You played it in 19? Yeah, played it in 19. I don't think I did that well So that looks like a great week It's awesome, man It looks like a great week It's really fun It's honestly one of the funest golf courses we play

The only thing that sucks is It's one of the hardest walks you get All year And it's right after you've taken all offseas and off And then on top of it They give you a cart up until Thursday So you're carting around Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

And then Thursday comes around And it's just a brutal Side Hill uphill walk And you just feel miserable after Do any hardos out there walk the whole week? No, no one walks that all week. I don't think you really can because during the tournament we'll get like four or five shuttle rides that are probably like a half mile each. So, I mean, without that, I don't think you could really walk the golf course.

Yeah, there's like a tunnel that goes to that part five that's like through a jungle. Yeah. Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy walk, but a fun golf course. our boy dewey uh kis is caddy that's where dewey fell he fell at that tournament hard i could see that yeah kids tells us oh yeah he tells a story great where they're just walking they look and like doy's just not behind him and he had just fallen down and they're like what the fuck are you doing but they did say the walk is brutal up there it is uh awesome man well we appreciate it um good luck obviously going forward um this entire year playing um you know playing really well 33rd in the world

hopefully next time we have you on you'll be you know this the in in the situation that scottie chef were like we talked about turned into a year later that'd be nice yeah i'd be able to make the writer cup that's a good goal for me this here you made 16 cuts in a row so you got to keep that going hey you just jinxed it i didn't even know that what do you mean now you're screwed yeah that's tough you got to be you got to know you got to feel great about saying yeah that's exactly right come on i got you're fine my next tournament's century so there's no cut and good You're literally guaranteed to make it to 17. You're good.

All right, we appreciate it. Thank you very much for the time. After it just if you could stick around for like 10 seconds, we've got to upload all the footage. My producers make sure we say that so we don't lose anything. But good luck out there. We appreciate you. Thanks for the time.

Of course. Thanks for having me on.