Fore Play - The Media vs Phil, Bryson, Golfers

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

Phil had an extremely uncharacteristic week vs the media in Detroit. Threatened to never return. Bryson declined to speak to media following a missed cut and a caddie split. Rickie taking flak for Open Championship player protocol comments. Big week for golfers vs the media. Plus, Riggs is in… New York? Trent is… practicing? Frankie is… scoring goals? Lurch is… flying into a hurricane?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm at Barstool Sports. We got the whole gang, Frankie Borrelli, Lurch, Trent, myself. Hello, gentlemen. How are you? How are we feeling? How are you excited to talk some golf? What's going on in your life?

I feel good. I have a couch now. I'm sitting on it right now. I think the last time we recorded, I was waiting on a couch. I did watch the guy. I just sat here while the guy built it. It took him 45 minutes. I think it was the best of the best I ever spent.

I do. I have a couch now. I'm sitting on it. So I feel pretty good about my life situation. Do you find it to be a weird situation when you're watching another man just do what you could be doing as a man? Yes. And I even asked him if I should leave. I ask him if it's going to make you uncomfortable.

I will just go wander around the city and go grocery shopping or do something. He was like, no, I do this all the time. But does it make me feel like less. of a man, yeah, but I didn't have to do it, and that's really what I got out of it. I don't care about anything else. And it really did look more difficult than Lurch was saying, like, you just got to turn on the things on the legs of the chair. No, that's not true. It's way more difficult. I'm glad I paid money for it. Turn on the legs of the chair. You would have crushed that project. Just turn on those legs. Hit the on switch. Hit the on switch.

Screw on the legs of the chair. That's what I was trying to say. What was the most difficult thing that they did? Yeah, it's hard to say. They were doing so much. And there was just stuff all over the apartment. So it's really hard to say. But it looked difficult. It looked like something that I couldn't do.

So like I said, I built these TV stands. I don't want to board people too much with what's going on in my apartment. But I built those TV stands, and that's just screws and pieces of wood. A couch, there really were cushions that they were putting together and this upholstery that they were pulling over. I just couldn't do that. I could not be able to do that. Um, decorations looking good. It's looking, looking, yeah.

It's really homey in here. I like from week to week the fact that your room gets less echoy. So it's like the more you throw in there, the better sounding it'll get. And like we can tell just how much stuff you're putting into that apartment based off the sound bouncing off the walls. It's a great point. It's less echoing here. I, the decoration clearly is going well. It looks beautiful in here right now.

But I did buy two plants that I'm looking at. They're right there. I'm going to try and keep it. those motherfuckers alive. Hopefully that happens. I can see the shadow of what looks like a martini light. Yep, there it is. That's just the college dorm room light

Right. Classic. That one's a classic. 1999 from IKEA. It comes with the light bulb. You just screw that thing right in. Hardy are hard. You know what's fucked up about these New York City apartments is none of them have above lights. Yeah. They don't have living room lights above. So you have

to provide your own lighting. And it's never great because it's just fucking lamps like that. I wish that there was a living room above headlamp but they just don't have it. Attach that thing to one of those, so if you put that into one of those things on the outlet, it'll come with a clicker and you can

just turn them on. It's like having a switch. What do you think about that? I think about that. I feel I'm very interested in that. I was going to say there's a period of accomplishing this and then once that period ends, that's just going to be your lighting forever. So it's like if you don't, in the

first few months or weeks probably, maybe days take an effort to make your lighting as good as it can be, then you will just have that same shitty lighting forever, because you're never going to go back. Yeah, because in the old apartment, Robbie and I, we strung, like, white lights all around the exterior, and that actually ended up being really, really good lighting. I don't know if I'm going to end up doing that.

That seems like a lot of work. Like Christmas? Yeah, they were Christmas lights, essentially. Okay. But they... I was like, I mean, you're just describing Christmas lights. But they're... But they're...

But we kept them on the... white light setting so it just illuminated the whole room. It didn't look like Christmas lights. Well, that kind of did actually. Oh yeah, you made them white, so. But it's definitely Christmas lighting. I mean, yeah. But that's as close as you can come to a light

above you that I don't have. Like Lurch, the thing you have behind me, behind you, I'm jealous of that thing. Oh. Just a little bit of life. Christmas lights are effective. Houses, if you drive by a house with Christmas lights on, it's fucking really lit up. So, yeah, man, that checks out.

We put up Christmas slice at Borrellys for game five against the lightning. And this company wanted to come, like Long Island Christmas lights, and they're elite. They're like really good guys, young guys that just have this business where they go to these really big houses and they trim the outsides for them. Basically, like what we're saying with your couch, like if you have the money to spend it, like people just have their lights put up for them by this company. And they wanted to do Borrellis. They had them, the real old school big bulbs. And it was orange and blue right across the trim of the whole restaurant and down the pillars. I walked in. I'm like, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen in my entire life.

You turn the lights off, like the actual restaurant lights. And it was just a blue and orange like caveman room. Islanders got blown out eight nothing. We took the lights down the next day. It was just like, can't have it. Even though I'm against the superstitions with hockey, I couldn't have those lights on for game six and seven. Couldn't. I remember, eight rip is different. That one gets different. I remember hoping that you, I remember hoping that you were going to tear down the lights on the live street while it was going on because it was such a bad game. Yeah, that was tough.

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They do a lot of stuff with Trent with The Bachelor, too. Trent's in a great commercial with Owens where he's on a fucking beach, luggage. Yeah, they help us out with cutting stems and we, yeah, we shot that commercial. I was dragging luggage across sand, which is far more difficult than you would realize. And we made a fantastic commercial. I think that might have been my acting debut. No, it was my acting debut, but it was another acting part in a long list of acting parts that I've had. And it's a good commercial. How long it take you to pull that suitcase with wheels across sand?

Well, we did a bunch of takes, but to walk even 30 feet, you know, it's a, it's a It takes much longer than it should. Because the wheels get stuck in the sand, and sand is hard to walk on as it is. I don't know how much sand you guys are walking on, but it's tough to walk on. It stinks to walk on. It's a night. I hate sand. I fucking hate it.

It's not made for sneakers, I'll say that. It's not made for the Trent outfit. It's made for bare feet or sand. All right. Sand at the right moment is delightful, but sand in the wrong moment is maybe the worst thing that's on this planet. Like sand in the car, sand inside your sneaker. sand like on your clothes maybe you forgot that like it's in your bed

because maybe you forgot that like it was in your back pocket and you sat down on something and it's just it gets everywhere never leaves ever it's there forever you know what always blows my mind like I mean this may not be as relatable but I like I have a buddy that has a house just right on the beach

and Long Beach and they just don't care if you walk in with all the sand on you and I couldn't I couldn't believe it like we all were on the beach and just he's like yeah I was like you want me to like take a hour outside or something because I'm just filled it. No, no, it's a beach house. We're just living in squalor now.

This is, there's just sand on the floor. Sand on the floor everywhere. And that feeling is uncomfortable. Trent, I have a question, what was your acting debut? You kind of just glossed right over that. If this was not your acting debut, you said you had a long list of acting. Wouldn't he getting the luggage and the Bachelorette?

Wouldn't that be like your acting? Would that be considered acting? I was even thinking about him. He wasn't really, you weren't really sending that girl home, like someone like a no i was thinking more like he actually but like she like he takes her luggage out the door then like she still has to like put it in security and stuff like he was just acting as a metaphorical sender of people home my point is that he physically grabbed the luggage though like he actually took her luggage so at some point there could have been a job yeah but when you're acting like and there's like a romantic scene you're like physically kissing that person

True, true, true. True. True. No, I was thinking more along the lines with just like bar stool videos. Like, remember when we used to do a lot of those, this is bar stool videos where we would be in those. And I remember one video, I don't remember what it was for. We reenacted the scene from, oh boy, what's that Keanu Reeves baseball movie?

Keanu Reeves baseball movie? Baseball or football? Baseball. People are yelling it right now. It's not the, he's not in the, no. People are yelling it. Keanu Reeves baseball movie. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, where G baby dies.

Yes. Hardball. Hard ball. Is it hardball? Hardball. Yeah, hardball. Whatever the name of it is. First of all, rest and peace, G baby.

I feel like you can't talk about that movie without saying that. And we reenacted a scene from that movie where I was dying in Coles' arms. So I think that was probably my acting debut. Trent and I used, we used to act. You're right. When we would do, um, outside of just of this as Barstool, we began, by doing four play skits when it was just the two of us. We had one where we hit a ball at like Ria with a range finder.

We had another one where we were in line in the bathroom. And we were talking about like pace of play. And we had to act for those. And like John Kelly was kind of directing us on how to act. And we so yeah. Didn't you guys like peer through the like through like a bush with Farity and you guys like. Yep. That was.

I think I was a This is Barstall production by Francis, I'm pretty sure. Somebody, like, was typing and Farity was just roasting the guy for, like, however he was typing. I remember he roasted Rhone and Caleb by the water cooler. Yeah, exactly. He was really good one. You've done a good amount of acting. You've got a nice, like, um, list.

Yeah. Why am I forgetting the actor's name, um, from, uh, she's out of my league. The skinny guy. Oh, great movie. I like that movie a lot. Fantastic movie. But Barish, something Baruchy guy. Jay Baruchow? So just a real quick story.

When we did this as Barstool, he came in and we were doing like a skit for like, basically they were like, you can come in and do a skit with Francis. And Francis like wasn't there that day. And I remember them being like, Frankie, can you do this? Because they were promoting the movie Goon too. It was like Colton Noor and Jay Barishow. And they're like, all right, Frankie, come up with a segment. And I remember sitting in one of the radio rooms at the head of the table. And I had a professional Hollywood actor who's been in some of my favorite movies.

Like, that guy's a fucking, he's really good actor in a lot of comedies. And then like Colton Lor was there and a bunch of other people. And they're like, all right, Frankie, what's the plan? And I was like 22 years old. I'm like, well, you know, we're just going to start out in the living area around here by the water cooler. I remember, like, someone, I basically, like, took ideas from other ones. Someone, like, went to the water cooler and then Colton Nour, like, body slammed him. It was a horrible skit.

But we got through it. I remember them being like, this is amateur hour. I was directing them around. So, Jay, I need a little bit more in this take. It was just like... Dude, that guy Jay is, like, best friends with Seth Rogan. He works with, like, the best writer in Hollywood. And then he's got Frankie Borell.

at the head of the table, like, here's what we're going to do. I was like, if the chips explode when you get into him, I think that would add some effect. He's like, I can't explode the chips. I'm just here to do an interview. I was like, okay, it's over. And that is martial sports, ladies and gentlemen. So, yeah, Trent, you do have a good line. I think this was all about Owens Mixers.

So go drink some of the mixers at the end of the day. That'd be lovely for everyone. All right, number one piece of news, John Deere Classic this week. We got a handful of things to discuss. John Deere Classic, TPC Adair Run, fifth major, obviously a little screwed because it's before the week for the Open Championship, but I just wanted to bring that up. I know you guys are probably going to bring it up anyway,

but I wanted just to shed light on the fact that the fifth major is this week. Got five top guys in the top 50. I saw like the defending champion is somebody from like the cactus tour or something like that, which I laughed out loud. Five guys in the top 50 are in the John Deer Classic. Who's in the John Deer? classic. I got it right here in front of me.

Thanks for asking. Daniel Burger is the top guy. Mr. Mr. Cakes, as Frankie likes to call him. Sung J.M. Kevin. I don't even know if people know. Dude,

that dude's got just the fattest ass on tour, man. Daniel Burger is absolutely cheeked up. I could not stop looking at his ass when we were at Torrey Pines. I haven't wanted to say to him. Like, what is going on with that wagon your dragon? I forgot. I brought something up that was that was awesome. I've never noticed it.

Me either. I thought he was like, I'm thinking of a pretty skin. tall guy. Dude, dude. You think that? He's got a wagon? Dude, he's got a wagon.

You could file a year's worth of papers in between those ass cheeks. It's just a fucking... I never noticed... Just an Oregon Trail wagon he's dragging back back with Lurch. He looks like Kevin Kisner to me. Right.

Dude. No, he's big. He's much bigger in person. I know you guys have seen him probably from afar or something, but he is... He's larger and he has a big rear end. We were out there during practice. Well, we were at Tijuana. Oh, Kewa, Kewa, not Tori, sorry.

We were at Kewa, and he was wearing shorts during the practice round. And all of a sudden it was like he had the shorts, the shirt tucked into the shorts. And then there was an actual turn of the body where it actually came out almost uncomfortable how big his ass was. And it was the talk of the range. We got people starting to talk about, you know, what was going on. I think I asked one of the players, like, what's going on over here? And they just like walked away.

I don't want anything to do with that. So he's playing this week, Sung J.M., Kevin Kna, Brian Harmon, and Siwu Kim. Just to murder his row of people. Brian Harman. My God. I saw I laughed at this, that the European tour this week just has, what, a 10-10-X stronger field than the John Deere Classic? I haven't really looked into that. I'm not sure.

What is? The Scottish Open over there? Scottish Open. Yeah, it feels like every good player is over there. Well, if we're going to talk about importance, Sung J.M. and Siwu Kim, they're playing in the John your Classic, but they're not playing the Open Championship if we want to start splitting hairs. Interesting story, actually, what they're doing, because they have to, if they meddle in the Olympics, that is one of their only routes, maybe their only route, to forego having to do two years of

mandatory military service in South Korea. So they are prioritizing the Olympics. over the British Open, because if they win the British Open, they get this prestige in the golf world. They get like $2 million, but they still have to take two of their prime years in their 20s and go serve in the South Korea military, whereas if they just meddle, all you got to do is medal on the Olympics,

and then you're able to just not have to fulfill that military obligation. So they are skipping the British Open to prepare and prep best for the Olympics. Amazing, really. I thought I saw a report, and I could be wrong that If you win the British Open, you also get that exemption. You can forego the military service. But either way, it makes more sense statistically to play in the Olympics,

because if you just meddle in the Olympics, as opposed to playing against all of the greatest players in the world to win the British Open, it's obviously a better chance to meddle. Now, let me ask you this. Like, if you're going over there and you're, you know, Xander Shoffley or something, and you are like one stroke ahead of one of these guys, and you could get a bronze medal,

or this other guy could get the bronze medal, and it would completely change his life. Would you even consider just being like, I'll just make bogey? Like, do people care, does an American going over there who makes millions of dollars give a shit about a bronze medal versus someone who a bronze medal would be life-changing? To me, it's like, who won the bronze medal?

Koocher last time. Like, who gives a fuck about a bronze medal, in my opinion? I don't even think if you have it, you show off the bronze medal. It's like, no, because some people that like don't know, I'd be like, oh, is that gold? It's like, no, this is bronze, actually, because like, it's like they kind of made it somewhat the same color and like, now I just have to explain to you. You put it in the right light, like in your house and it looks gold. Just a little bit darker and it's just, I finished the third. I hit it in the water on 17. Like, you have to, like, tell all the story. But I think if you're a competitor, you bury him and then you give him like a military salute after and be like, see you in two years.

What? I'm saying if you're a competitor, if you're a fucking competitor, you're like, see you later, pal. You're not going to let the guy win. Just digging the guy's grave after. Setting him to war, Frank. Yeah. And how much of a golf course war? How much of a win is that?

Like, I just defeated you now. Now get out of here. USA, baby. What an answer. I mean, I think I was going to go the opposite way. I was going to say, yeah, do it was solid. But I like, Frankie's answer is better. I said, if you are a competitor, you send that guy straight to the front line.

Look, you're probably right. You're probably right. If you want to be a ruthless competitor, you're probably right. I was thinking more along the lines of a human being and like personal person. But if you want to be a competitor, I love it. I'm into it. So is the story that they actually are going to have to serve? that they are now eligible to serve

in these two years. Mandatory service. Who was in Rio Ishaqawa? Who's just... We've had multiple in the last five or ten years. A couple years ago, who was... Was it Rio Ischikawa?

I'm totally blank on names today. Do they go over there and like teach golf or like do they do something just like similar to... Like, I want to know what they go over there and do when they have mandatory. military service for South Korea. Especially when you're a fucking professional athlete. It has nothing to do with golf.

Like they're actually going into combat training and shit. They're just like everybody else, yes. Wow. Was it Sang Moon Bay? Yes, that's who it was. That's who I was trying to think of. He was at the President's Cup, right? And he was, I remember them talking about that.

And that was like his last tournament until he had to enlist and go serve in the military for a couple years. So yeah. Correct. I'm looking at this article from 2019 that says, Meng Moon Bay still searching for his old form after military stint. He was away from golf for two years. His world ranking plummeted lower than ever been, obviously.

Yeah. So it's not like you are now eligible. You could be drafted, Frankie. You are over there required to serve two years in the military, I believe. Wow. I'm seeing K.J. Choi did it prior to turning pro, too. I'm thankful that we don't have to deal.

Like, we have people that just, you know, the America's fucking awesome. The fact that people over there have to deal with. that is insane. That is insane. Yeah, we got people that volunteer. They just sign up. Volunteer and they just do it. And, you know, the weaker, weaker minded, physically weaker

people like me, like, who just physically wouldn't be able to do it or mentally be able to handle it, they just go and do it and they protect us. And the fact that they have to fucking take these people off of their path to greatness in their sport that they've been playing their whole lives, they're the best in the world at it. They just take them

off the golf course for two years. That is, that is a travesty. How about South Korea, too, is like, well, if you're really the best in the world at it, then just go win, like, the gold medal. And we'll take care of it. Think about that. For those two guys, for those two guys, like, it's not, you normally go to a gold tournament,

you're like, yeah, I want to win, I want to make a bunch of money, I want these FedEx points. These guys are going to be playing the Olympics, so they are, so they don't have to mandatory serve in the military. That is the most pressure you can have. I'm telling you, if they don't have these guys on the feature coverage, this is great. is just great TV. And, you know, like, they might even flash, flash, like, some footage of, like, a military parade and be like, this is what's waiting for.

And then really drum up that intensity. That's good television. This is over there trying to make a three on the 18th to knock Sanjay M to the military for two years. Or if I was a competitor. This is, this is as close to a real-life situation that's similar to our, your gun on the 18th green. if you don't make the put or the fifth putt or whatever. This is as close as you're ever going to get. Like if you miss that put to metal,

you're shipped off to the military. It's just you better make the putt. Wow. You have to make them. It is unlike any other pressure. It's so meaningful that they are skipping the British Open to prepare for this. So they're in the best form, which again, I think it's probably the right move.

But yeah, so he's in the John Deere Classic, but not the, not the British. British Open, but there's a little bit of a caveat. We could argue there's a caveat, but who knows? Maybe a little one, but I don't know. I like the move of guys now going over and playing the Scott Ash Open. I know you guys get fucked, Trent, with the John Duke Classic. I'm sorry, but I like the move.

I think it's smart because these guys don't play links golf ever, and then all of a sudden they just appear at the British Open, and they're supposed to play links golf and win. Now I'm thinking about it, though, like Tiger Woods just did that all the time, and he would just win, and it wasn't a problem. He's an outlier, though. It's hard to make any comparison to him. Fair, I think you'd get the jet leg out of there,

because I was following a lot of their Instagram stories, and they were saying it's so brutal, like, the next day you're out there, back on the golf course. Like, Kalamorkawa woke up at, like, 4 o'clock in the morning, and we're just, like, walking the course, taking Instagram photos. Like, I think you need to kind of get that out, and to get, like, a weekend and play golf and play the same style. It's got to be the right decision.

Tiger Woods is just, he's not a real person. Unicorn. I agree. And when Phil Nixon won his British Open at Mirfield, he won the Scottish Open the week before. So, you know, there's clearly something to it. I think it's the right move. Like you said, get comfortable, just get over there. Ricky Fowler, he's made some headlines with some comments about the protocols. And he's not the only one. There's other people. He's the highest profile player thus far. And he immediately is going to draw the, you know, rich millionaire, spoiled breached. complains about like COVID protocol during pandemic just to play in a tournament where he can make millions. His point is quite simply that the RNA and the Open Championship are going to welcome, I believe, 32,000 fans a day. People clearly aren't going to be like, we're in mass. They're going to be at a tournament, big congregations of people, gatherings of people. Yet the players

going over have to abide by all of these extremely strict protocols. They, you know, if anybody on they're playing like test positive, then they have to quarantine. They're not allowed to stay with other players. There's a ton of kind of extra protocols that they have to go through in order to play that the fans clearly do not have to do. So it seems a little bit hypocritical or inconsistent. It reminds me a lot of kind of Dave Portnoy's point on the NCAA with NCAA, where they didn't, where they just kicked them out of the,

tournament because somebody tests positive where they had fans all over the place and it's like well who cares like if you're not going to kick all the fans out you're going to have thousands of fans all sitting together why the hell does it matter if you have 15 players that are together on a bench or whatever it's what hell's the difference so it reminds me a lot of that I think he's catching some ricky shay shots that he should not be catching I think he's making very clear rational points and anytime you make some clear rational points but you're a very successful person. Other people, especially the media, will just bitch at you. So I think Ricky's catching some unnecessary Ricky Shay shots. Yeah, it seems inconsistent at best. What's,

for comparison's sake, how many fans were allowed at Troy Pines today? Was it 10,000? It was 10,000 max, I think. And they had a weird situation where California State was based on parking. It wasn't based on people because they're not allowed to shuttle people on buses because obviously you're packing dozens of people into a really tight spot, which is not great for COVID. So they could only allow as many people basically as could park. So if you had like a bunch of people showed up as six people in one car, well, then all a sudden you might have 15,000. But most likely based on the amount of individual parking spaces that they had, it was

somewhere between like 8 to 10 or 11,000 each day. So they're going to have fucking three or four times that at the British Hope. Yeah, that's just doesn't seem right. And like, why? Like, why would, like, what has the RNA responded to any of these comments? I would say likely, probably not. But, like, how can they justify, like you're saying, letting in 32,000 people and then, like, turning the screws on these players who, I'm sure are being tested.

I'm sure they're trying to be as safe as possible. But not, and also not being able to stay with other players, that is, like, a big burden on some other guys, too. Like, it's, it just seems very inconsistent, is the word I would use. Yeah, and that's what they do. Like, those guys go over every time they're, the British. I remember at Carnusti, it was like kids, JT, Ricky, all these guys were staying in the same house and like four of them were within a couple of shots of the league going into Sunday. And it was a fun little storyline where they're all telling, you know, stories, tales, whatever, about being in the house together. It makes sense when they're traveling. They've got to go all the way over to a foreign country and they're trying to make sense. So yeah, I get like, oh, they have to do all this. They're like rich. Well, guess what? Just people are people. And they like to like travel without having to go through a bunch of protocols in order to play in a golf tournament. And I don't. don't blame them for when they're asked about it, like voicing their opinions on it.

That's why it's a little bit like chicken and the egg situation again with where they want people to be honest and open and candid in the media. But then when they are, the media just buries them and takes everything out of context and tries to make them look like assholes. So I didn't think Ricky came off like an asshole in this at all. He said there are definitely some concerns. There happens to be a couple people on the plane that test positive when you get there. What happens with all that? Obviously, we're all going into our own small bubbles and can't be around other players. It seems like us as players, we're jumping through some hurdles and dodging bullets,

and they're having 32,000 fans a day at the tournament. So I don't know. I can't really answer questions clearly with all that going on. I think that's just a rational point. It's like, you know, if he, if the whole thing was, yeah, we're, we're only going to allow 5,000 fans and you have to ensure, you know, a negative test within 24 hours or that you're vaccinated and we're making the players do this similar protocol stuff, that would be fine, but you can't do both because then you're just saying that COVID chooses when to, like, affect people and when it doesn't, which is preposterous. So anyways, that's going on. In speaking of media, Phil Nicholson had an interesting week with the media as well, and we're going to get into the match.

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and saying generic, bland stuff. He always kind of brings it. He has funny stories. He has funny quips. He gambles with the fans on whether he can get up and down, and then hands a guy's 20 bucks. He's just been great in the media his entire career. So this one, there was a lot going on in that Phil went and played in Detroit for the first time Rocket Mortgage just past week.

as he basically, at the beginning of the week, when he arrived, a local journalist reporter wrote a story from, what, 15 years ago, 12 years ago, something like that, where Phil and some gambling debt didn't get like a $500,000 debt from a guy, and he kind of rehashed all these things about Phil Mickelson and gambling and his ties to some gambling, you know, folks over the years. Phil did not like this. but in a very peculiar move by Phil used it to say that he now will not return to Detroit in the future,

which seems like an extremely awkward punishment for the entire city of Detroit when one loser Twitter egg journalist writer rehashes a story from 10 or 15 years ago. So Phil just threatened to say, and just did say him all the time, like, yeah, this is how people just don't come back to Detroit ever again. You're going to ruin it for everyone. No one's ever getting charity money in the city of Detroit ever again. I just kind of laughed out loud. It was a very bizarre reaction.

Dude, he wouldn't stop talking about it. He wouldn't stop. I feel like every time I open Twitter on my phone, which is hundreds of times a day, I would see Phil responding to a tweet about this article, about Detroit, about charity. To the point where it does get to a point where no one would have. cared or talked about this at all if Phil Mickelson hadn't mentioned it one time. If Phil had seen the article been like, fuck that guy. I wish he hadn't have wrote that.

And then maybe in his head decided, maybe I'm not going to come back to Detroit because I don't like the way the local media treats me. Fine. He instead took it outward and just kept tweeting and tweeting and tweeting to the point where I saw people being like, you just got to let it go. Like we don't really know the ins and outs of this. It happened a long time ago. You have a very close relationship with whatever's going on, but we don't want to know about it. And the more you talk about it, the more we want to know about it. So you should probably just stop talking about it.

Yeah, it was kind of a shocker. Like he, and to punish the whole city of Detroit is truly amazing. That's my favorite part. It's like, you're making everybody hate that guy. Like, if so facto by doing that, everybody now hates that reporter. Phil just never comes back and is never Phil again. Well, that's what he wants. That's what Phil else.

And he's accomplished that. So to Riggs is like up front kind of like tailored question. of he's a calculated brand. Like that's the most calculated you could be to do that. And then also just be on Twitter, like you said, and just never not stop talking about how the fact that it was like a selfish article, you can't believe that he did it. And then just saying, I'm never coming back to this city.

Detroit is pretty much all time. Just like Detroit pizza places, just everything. Like, you know, the economy of Detroit will not be stimulated by Phil Mickelson ever again. He will not be attending. that city because of this one guy that just won't stop writing about this story from years ago. It's very, very funny. I saw exactly what you saw Trent. He's in the

he's in the replies. Every person that agreed with him he'd write, I agree. And then go on about why he agrees with what that person wrote. It was so petty. It was so ridiculous. The fact that a guy like Phil Mickelson also thinks that like a city, like cares that he's going to come back or not.

Like he'll embark is he's going to come back like fucking like parting the sea like everyone from Detroit's going to walk out of their buildings and watch him his plane land like come on Phil you're Phil Mickelson you're a golfer there's nothing that's

going to change with that city if you don't come back because you don't like the guy that wrote an article about you right it's a huge leap to say that he's like this needle mover now that like no the whole weekend everything about that weekend falls on its face because Bill Nicholson isn't there but however

he's kind of like got that as like a you understood that somehow it's partially believed based on how people like acted and how he acted. So he's he's won this battle pretty clearly and it's been fun to watch. Well, if you reply to everyone on Twitter, you're going to make people think that it's right at some point. Like if I'm just like, the moon is not real. It's made out of cheese. And someone's like, yeah, actually I agree. And I write like this guy gets it. Like all of a sudden the moon is now made out of cheese on my timeline.

Like that's kind of what Phil was doing. Like, oh, I'm not coming back to Detroit. And they're like, yeah, you don't come back. And it became this big thing. Well, it might be, it might be 150 people. Right. It might be. I will say it does make me believe that Phil runs his own Twitter.

Yeah. He definitely does. For sure. Without question. He was deep, deep in the replies. And there were a few other interesting considerations, which is, you know, Phil's smart enough to know that if you really, if you really didn't want this story to get out or get a lot of attention,

then he wouldn't have done what he did. Like it clearly got infinitely more attention because of what he was doing. Phil, coincidentally, he's got this match coming up that needs attention, which happened yesterday, and he decides to drum up all kinds of storylines in the media before. So I thought all of those things were at play as well, that who knows how much. how many calculations may have been going into it because there's a lot,

there was just a lot happening all at the same time. And Phil being in the news at a time when they need people to tune into this match thing, I think there's probably something to that because I think Phil's more calculated than to just go on and on and on and on about a story that he really just wanted to not be talked about. Yeah, that could definitely be part of it. But it does seem that Phil is touchy about the gambling stuff in the past. Like whenever that comes up, it gets weird with Phil. Which makes it less logical for him to bring as much attention to this as he did

because I doubt he wants people bringing this up all the time. But it does seem like, and there's been like, I don't know, I forget all the legal terminology about what happened in the past with him, but there has been stuff there. So it's like there's just a lot of smoke and I feel like just adding fuel to that fire doesn't feel like the right type of publicity for a thing like the match. but you are right. Phil Mickelson's name was easily the number one golfer in the name in golf last week. So it's, I don't know. It's hard to set.

Yeah. Well, I think anything finance bill gets a little bit uneasy about because there was like the insider trader, you know, and gambling. It's like he just wants to move past that for sure. So I think in this way, he is going out of his way to completely bury this guy. So no other media thinks, hey, this is a good idea. I'm going to try to knock at Phil's financial background because I think she really wants to move past all this. But in the short term, it has the opposite. Right.

Short term, definitely. But I guarantee every media member or everybody that writes has heard loud and clear like, oh, if I do anything now, I won't. First of all, I will never, that guy's never getting an article with Phil ever again. And do you have, like, you know, I would say that everybody's got that kind of slap on the wrist and being like, I'm not going to write anything. think bad about that guy. That's fair. I think it's a good point. Then we also had Bryson DeCambo, who refused to answer questions, didn't speak with the media after his round. He missed the cut at Rocket Mortgage where he's defending champion.

This, of course, came less than two days after his longtime caddy Tim, who's been on the bag for every single one of his wins on the PGA tour. I think he's got eight wins. Just quit. I mean, they separated, but all speculation seems to be that they quit. It would never occur in that. in that manner and that timing that Bryson would get rid of him, it doesn't seem. So it was a long time Caddy quits.

And then he doesn't speak to media. He's also like an ambassador for Rocket Mortgage, which again, the media was howding him for. I probably have a different take on this than most people. But like, look, I think I get that it's bad optics when somebody like Bryson just doesn't speak to the media. But I also think the people that care the most about somebody not speaking to the media by far is the media. So, you know, my take on it is, dude, like, we've all been in places where we're

upset or we're going through something shitty. It may be minor to us. It may be major to our lives at the time, but at the time, it's very big to us. So we're upset. We don't want to talk, whatever. And he's a person. People, like, the same kind of take on, on Ricky and those guys that, like, yeah, they might make a lot of money, but they're just people. And at times, sometimes people just don't want to talk. And guess what? Bryson will do interviews in the future. So, like, if all these pressing important questions that they want to ask him, they can just fucking ask him this week or next week when he's at the British Open doing media,

and he'll have the answers, and you'll get your answers. So, again, I was sort of on to take that. He doesn't want to talk to media, he didn't want to talk to media. He missed the cut, played like shit. Probably wasn't very happy. He's probably got stuff going on with Tim. He's trying to find a new caddy.

Maybe he just wanted to get to Montana and just kind of get this match thing over with. Who knows? But I'm usually on the side of the player, and that I think, again, the only people that really, truly care about a player not speaking to the media is the media. It was funny that when we recorded the last podcast, this news was just breaking about them breaking up.

And we were like, fuck, he's going to give a ton of quotes at the Rocket Mortgage. And this podcast is going to seem dated. And then he skipped all of his media obligations, which I thought was really funny. But you're right. Like, you almost, the media there clearly wants to get the quotes because they're there and it's the hot story. But by Bryson's skipping media obligations, we as far. fans and all the people who just watch golf, that's our answer. Like, that's our answer. We don't

need him to stand in from a podium and say, you know what, guys, I don't really want to talk about that right now. I'm kind of working through it because that's all he would say. But in turn, he just skips all of them, and that says its own thing. And you can actually take more away from that than you could with any answer he's going to give in front of the media. So I'm on your side, rigs. I think it's, if he wants to skip media obligations, obviously the media is going to throw a shit fit because they're like, we are the voice. We are. the journalists, we are how the people consume the sport. But I actually take more away from Bryson's actions than anything he would have said to that. Yeah, 100%. It also, yeah, it makes it

understood that it means something to him. It also confirms he's just not a robot. He's in a match. It was one of the weirdest displays of communication to the outside world I've ever seen. But yeah, I mean, I agree. Him not, the only people that care truly is the media. I agree with that. would have liked to get his take just because, like, he's, if you take your, if you take the Bryson that we kind of, like, that gets under our skin, you want to see this guy, like, kind of squirm. Like, I want to watch Bryson talk about how, like, his life is not as, like, perfectly calculated

as he claims it to be where, like, every time he doesn't make a putt, he's like, well, it's just because of this. And it's not because of what I did. I did all the preparation. I did all the math. Like, it's, he's always just. just like I got this handled and like dude your caddy kind of just like quit on you the day before this fuck the day of this tournament and like you were the you end up missing the cut like can we

just hear you kind of can we see one T or so can we see something right but I get that like you know what he doesn't want to talk about it it is what it is I'm not going to kill the guy for not doing media I just personally would like to see a little emotion out of him like just because I think we've earned that we've watched a lot of bryson be cocky and like just all over the place just give me one like you know what this kind of sucks and my my golf career this is a little bit of a blip in the you know is it a blip or bump a bump in the road and that's also say like where if someone is high or low on their emotions that's usually where you see them go off the like the PR script for the media so it would have been very interesting if he did give a take on it because usually

if emotions get in like people are less into control um so that would have been an interesting but yeah Just as a human, like he's obviously, it means something to him. He walked off and that all makes sense. But if he did speak, obviously, it would have caught everybody's attention. Yeah, like, I would have loved to have heard it too, but I'm not mad at him that he didn't. You know, it's like, it's fine. I think it's totally fine that he didn't. But you're right.

We do get, like when Phil Mickelson said that he's an idiot, like after he made double at Wingfoot, that was an emotional, vulnerable time when he was asked about it. But I will say to the media, like, they always give him. a guy credit when he's clearly not in a great space and does media, they're like credit to this guy who like easily could have walked by. It's okay, if you're going to give credit to those people, then you also need to understand when somebody doesn't do it. Because if you're going to realize one, you have to realize the other. So, yeah, I think it would have been neat to get his take and hear him try to like navigate it while clearly not in a great emotional state and upset or

whatever. But I'm not like mad at the guy that he didn't. And the match, the match yesterday, The big winner was clearly Montana. I thought Montana was popping. That place looks like the most peaceful, gorgeous, unique area to visit in this great country, United States of America. And I thought it just kept delivering. I was at my favorite spot here in town in New York. I'm ironically in New York for three days when our office is closed for the only week of the year.

Dude, I thought incredible. Well, hey, welcome back to you. You, I thought you were going to show up to that live stream last night. And it would have been, it would have been an all time move. I actually almost texted you and been, it was just, we were like, I got home late and I was going to be like, dude, you should show up to this. Because Dave would be like, look at this guy. First time in fucking six months. Dude, it goes up on the day, he's calling everyone out.

You wandering that back hallway that's behind the gambling game, just seeing Rick's parcel strolling down before day's season would have been really something. Dude, I didn't know enough about what was going on because I don't care about basketball. So I didn't piece it all together in time. And by the time I realized that it was like midway through the fourth quarter and I would have missed the whole thing. But man, after seeing the rants from Dave where he was doing the Dave Portnoy show on the live stream, just roasting all the other employees for not working on Fourth of July. If I just showed up in the office and was like, let's go, boys, overs club. It would have been so good.

So I'm pretty rattled that I missed out on that. Or if you had just sat at your old desk and started hammering at keys and they're like, what is going on? What's happening back there? And it's just rigs back there hammering out of blog. That would have been good to. Dude, you're right. If I was just posting blogs, if I wrote like six blogs about the match last night. Oh, my God.

That was a miss. I would have been a miss. But I was at Danino, it was my favorite little Italian spot here in the village in New York City where I hadn't been in like a year. And there were like four or five other people all from different, different ages. We had men, women, all kinds of different people from different backgrounds, just kind of tuning in. They had the basketball game on one. They had the match on the other.

And everyone just continued to comment about Montana. And to the point people were like looking up flights to go to Montana from the bar. So I thought that was probably the biggest takeaway was how sick that place looked. And the match overall, you got what you always get. Production kind of sucked, which I think gives a little bit of a peek into the window of why we actually don't do like any real live golf. with any of our matches because it's really hard to cover golf live. It's really, really hard. Tiny ball is going like three or four hundred yards,

and you have giant cameras that you have to operate and try to follow it. It's hard enough on PGA Tour when they hit the ball straight all the time and at flagsticks all the time. Now you get amateurs where the ball could go anywhere, and you get, you know, a few camera guys that are basically probably freelancers that they brought in. It's not the full production team of an entire round covering 18 holes. it's just hard production wise to capture all the shots so there are a lot of times where somebody hit their t shot and they pan to you know the fairway camera guy who was just out to lunch looking at the sky looking at the fucking mountains you couldn't find the ball so the production was never great uh it was awkward like bryson was weird he's he's clearly just like not a conversational um charismatic

guy. Like, he's just not. He's weird. He's in his own world. He was trying to be, kept saying dude and bro to Rogers the entire time, which just came off as weird. But, you know, but overall, like, did I watch it? Yeah, I was fucking watching it. I thought it was entertaining. And I wanted to kind of see who won. I wanted to hear the chatter. I think listening to Phil and Bryson talk about putts was fascinating. I thought Bryson going through his whole routine with the clock and then coming out with like it breaks 10 inches and Phil put the teeth. down and then Bryson saying as he stood over it that he actually felt just kind of his instinct was that it breaks a little bit less than that. So he changed his read on the spot and then made it

was like, oh, okay, there's a little bit more to it where he actually does just enact some instincts and feel instead of pure robotics. So I thought that stuff's interesting. And as a golfer, I'm going to fucking watch it. I think I'm just going to watch those every time. No, it's not perfect. It's weird. I don't think, like, do you don't really know that characters are going to be good or bad until they're good or bad. So it was the same way with Steph Curry. It was like a big name, one of the biggest, you know, athletes in the country, star power, loves golf, pretty good player.

Let's get him out there. And then he just was kind of boring. And you just don't know what you're going to get until you get it, basically. So, so yeah, overall, is it, is it the most impressive thing that you're going to rave about from a programming standpoint? Nope. But, like, it's pretty fucking entertaining, I think. Yeah, I mean, if we expect people to watch our videos and we go out and golf on golf

courses and interact and like shoot this shit. How in the world can we say you're not supposed to watch the match with these fucking massive celebrities and big personalities and professional golfers that are now mixing it in with amateur golfers who are also the biggest stars in the world? Like, I mean, it's just,

it's a no-brainer to watch that video. It's, it's, it's the top tier travel series from Barstool Sports. It's, they're playing unbelievable golf course. Yeah, four man's cram. They're playing the nicest golf. course is with the best footage and it's like come on of course you're going to watch this thing it's a great it's on once every couple months and it's a great it's a great piece of footage and it's it's

always going to be entertaining it was long i could not believe they were still playing golf it was like yeah it was it was you couldn't believe every time you look at the clock like these guys are still on the golf course and and and and it just kept going on forever and ever and ever but you know i i i just I think it's a must watch every single time. And for those reasons, because of, like, what we do. If you have to watch it. And say what you want about Bryson, but watching him hit drives at that elevation is fucking fun. Like, that's, it feels like the allure of, like, the 98 home run race.

Like, just watching a guy hit a ball really fucking far is always fun. I'll always watch that. And Montana, like you guys are saying, it looks like a simulator most of the time. I thought they were hitting at a simulator. It was just beautiful. But yeah, I never thought about it that way, Frankie, but if you're going to watch us, which I hope that you do,

four play YouTube, please subscribe. If you're going to watch that, then you're going to be watching the match with these guys. Of course, dude. Of course. It's like watching minor league baseball and not watching the big leagues. It's like, come on now.

It's the big leagues. I mean, it's Aaron Rogers. Who are you going to watch hit a golf shot? Me or Aaron Rogers. Come on. Both. Both. Yes, but I'm saying, like,

if you do the first thing, you have to do the latter. Like you can't. True. Like, think about it this way. Like, if we had a video out with Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers, like, we'd be like, how are people not watching that? And now you're exchanging us for Phil Mickelson and Bryson to share.

Like, I mean, you have to watch it. Yeah, it's a great production. I think they've done a great job with it. I think it's, and I don't even know if it could ever get watered down. I would love to just see more and more and different pairings of stuff. I want to see more amateur golfers as well. I also want to see the four-man scramers. on there on national TV.

I would love to see them give us some shine since we are paving the way of having these, you know, we go that we are, we are the, what's the word? What's the word? We are the pioneers of like this four-man scramble competition on, on live streams. Well, we don't really do a live stream, but we do it on Instagram actually. I like that this is turned into a pitch for us. It's a pitch. It's a pitch. It's a pitch.

We should be on one of the matches. Let's go. Get the four-man scramble versus Phil Mickelson. Put it on fucking TV. Did you guys see Tom Brady washing his club with water from his cart cooler? I did. I did. And I loved the move.

What a great move. I saw our guy who we love Shane Bacon shitting on him for it. I thought Riggs you did the same. I thought Riggs you said like, yeah, automatic loss from the hole or something. I thought you said that too. I literally said automatic win of hole. Yeah. Love this move, common man shit.

I think Shane said the opposite. it, right? It's a missed by layer there. Shane said Tom Brady just cleaned his club out of the cooler with drinks inside, and I think this deserves an auto loss of hole. I was like, no, this move. This is a classic. This is a common man move.

This is just you're grabbing whatever you can and trying to get that puppy clean. And he did, and it just looked. It was like one of the most normal things I've ever seen that alien Tom Brady do. Yeah. It's like Shane was implying that someone was eventually going to drink that water. Right. Which you don't drink. Right.

Like, who cares? She's in a cooler. Yeah, exactly. I like that move a lot. I like that move a lot. I thought, I love Phil Mickelson's little corpse and the things that he'll say, like, under his breath. And the way he delivers the things that he says, like, the one where Bryson hit the, the drive, he cranked a drive, but it hit the cart path. And it ended up being, like, in the rough and Phil won longest drive again.

And the way he's looking down at the scorecard and talking down to Bryson being like, he's like well that's that's in the rough and bryson goes it was pummeled and he goes but you hit it in the rough and that's no good as he's tight as he's writing in w like on top of that on top of that hole just so so funny he really is like when he's on his game there's really not i would like i'd love to see his type of shit talk compared with a guy like kids like how it would that how they'd interact because he is a good shit talker to an extent like he's like clean and he's he's like dad funny almost. And then you'd have a guy that we like really kind of like kids would kind of like run

circles around him with like digs and like getting mean and like like like shitting on Phil where like he wouldn't know how to react. But I would love to see that interaction because he is a good shit talker to some extent. It's also on camera off camera though too, which is tricky. You know, it's like a very big difference between like because kids is fucking southern like hillbilly aching and you got you got Phil who's. California. Like, he's the exact opposite.

It's far opposites you could be in this country. And the two of them, like, the kind of shit that they would say to each other, anything could come out. Yeah. Kiz did tweet. He wants to wish he could commentate the back nine, which if they want to add some color to these broadcasts, you put, you give Kevin Kisner a microphone and you just see what happens. Oh. And also, like, allow like an HBO live stream where they could say anything. You know what I mean?

Get it off like that public. delivery, put it on Barstall, where it's just a live stream of the match of these people saying whatever they want to talk about during the match, because that would allow for, I mean, incredible viewing experience. We need kids to be wearing ridiculous headphones with like a massive antenna popping out of his head, walking around with like a fluffy microphone. A Bob Barker microphone. Yeah, going up to the guy and just like shoving in his face, me like, like, what do you think

right there? Like after a bad shot or something? Like, what were you going for there? like in his like little dialect the way he like talks down to a person with that you have no you had no chance on that put or something like that to tom brady that he would just malfunction yeah he absolutely would so yeah we and i imagine these things will continue to evolve you get somebody like kids i mean i remember j t was awesome like when he commented the match and he was chirp i mean called charles barker like a fat ass on on the coverage

i mean you can get good stuff like that that you would never get in any other arena so it's just pure entertainment That's essentially what it comes down to. These things are pure entertainment. They raise, I believe, donations and contributions will provide 6,300,000 meals for feeding America and $2.6 million to my brother's keeper. So it's for a good cause. Yes, these guys all make a ton of money off it, clearly, but it also raises a lot of good money and it's entertainment for us. So it's a good thing overall.

Hard to shit on it. I get breaking down things about it that could be better. That's all fun and games. and we joke and make little quips. But just bitching about it overall is very stupid. And I think we're all pretty much in favor of it, much like we're in favor of whoop, which is the revolutionary, most powerful fitness wearable,

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glad I'm taking care of my body today. I'm drinking a lot of water. I'm just trying to, you know, rest the engines a little bit. But whoop is good just for tracking all that stuff, knowing where you're at. Woop is so good that you become so addicted to it that when, when you're in a situation like I am in right now where mine actually died yesterday prior to playing golf with Trent in a hundred degree weather. And then, so we did that. We filmed the whole video. We're out there all day long. It was crazy hot, crazy tiring. I go straight from there. I go to a Men's League roller hockey game. Shout out the Outcast, we won the game. I scored another goal. I'm the leading

goal score on the team, by the way. No way. Are you really? Your team has to suck. No, dude. No, I'm telling you, I'm playing really good hockey. I'm like, we're probably 500, so we're not that great. But I'm, I'm scoring goals. I'm fine in the net.

I'm just fine in the net. I think I have like 14 games played in like seven goals, but like 15 points. Do you have the most games played? no no no that's in the that's in the two seasons so this this season i have seven games played i think seven goals or six years frankie yeah he's a goal score yeah confidently skate and like cross over yeah yeah yes yes yes yes only thing i cannot do which i would love to get help on is except passes on my backhand on a rush it's very hard i've just never played hockey to the point where

like i can confidently like either like i don't know if you like almost like chip it to like get it back to your forehand or do you like accept it with your skate or like do you just like let it get past you and it's very hard because like you're going 100 miles an hour and you're crashing in the net and the guy passes it to you I'm a lefty gets it to my back end it's always just I either miss it or it's clunky and it gets back to the defenseman and it's like when but when I get that pass on the forehand it's fucking butter do one of the biggest uh tests that we that our coaches would run in college was like if you you would skate pretty much full speed cut across the blue line going towards center ice and somebody would have to fire you a pass on your backhand and see if you could catch it.

And even like at that level, man, like 20% of the time somebody could actually like catch it in stride. So I'm always amazing when you watch the NHL and you watch these guys and a fast break happen and somebody whips a pass across. Shut out Whitney. Too many tape passes. And somebody catches it on their backhand like in stride without fucking it up. I'm always just like, oh my God, that's amazing. Because even you turn on like college in the Frozen Four and you watch. it and guys miss those passes all the time.

The accepting of passes and the catching of passes in the NHL, I think is the most impressive thing they do. Like, I think that is where you can see the difference in skill between levels, like, even minor, even like the AHL or the OHL, like, what these guys are able to do on the fly, like everyone at some level can, like, shoot the puck. Like, even Matt Barzel doesn't have, like, a great shot. There's guys in college and OHL and HL and HL that have better shots in him. But like, when you get, when they throw a puck at him from the other side of the ice and

he just figures out how to get it right to him in stride, right to his stick. It is, it's almost like watching magic. It's like, it is. They did something that was not, like, earthly. Like, it's, it's, it's, yeah. Have you seen the one of Sidney Crosby's skating up the opposite, the off wing? And pass comes across. Instead of, like, slowing down to catch it on its stick.

He catches it back foot on the, yeah, the outside leg, the back foot and kicks it forward. That's like magician's shit, how he pulled back. that off. It's like the balance, the awareness of like, no, the passes coming at 80 miles an hour. I'm skating this fast in order to get in the zone the fastest way. No, I'll just do this. That, that is incredible. It's also just instinct. Like, you don't have time to think about all that. That just happens. Like, his instinct is just, boom, he just did it. Process that. Instinct says process that. You know what I mean? Like some part of it is saying this happens. This is the way I do it. All other idiots do a different way. Yeah. Yeah. It's honestly amazing. But anyway, I, by the way. 15% off, 15% off, 15% off code 4 play.

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Kiz finished tied for fifth in Connecticut. He was 10 under par. He finished tied for eighth in Detroit. He finished 15 under par. made $465,695 in two weeks. Ain't no hobby. The Open Championship is next week. Then he's got the playoffs, then the Ryder Cup, which he's a match play badass.

He's got a phenomenal history track record. He finished first and second in the match play this year. Again, he had a good run in the match play. Won a couple of matches. He ended up losing his third one, I think, to like Matt Goucher in a good match. But clearly he's capable of taking down big names. I think he beat like JT. took down some big names this year.

And if he continues to play well, going into this next month, month and a half stretch of golf, and all of a sudden you get those captains picks coming up for the Ryder Cup, and you have the history that we have over the last 20 years where we fucking suck, and we get killed taking the same guys over and over and over again. And you have what happened in Paris in 2018, where they took the same guys, and they sprayed it all over God's green earth. Over there, they were in fescue hazards, and we just got our guys. Dick's kicked in by the Europeans,

it's going to be hard to not, in my opinion, pick a guy with a phenomenal matchplay record who drives it straight as shit, who puts it lights out, who's playing well on the team. Locker room guy, too. Yeah, we need that. It was got ugly there in the past couple of years.

Just a bunch of individuals. I think kids could help melt it together, which would be helpful to see. Yeah, he's a huge locker room guy. He literally got number one when they did that anonymous players, pull of guys that you want to be paired up with when you play that he was number one choice right those things that you all listed rigs those are all very important but i think his ability to like like lurch is saying like meld a locker room i think that's number one you just

need that you really need that he just we i mean we've hung out with them enough times where it's just he just makes things better he just makes conversation better he makes everything run smoothly and in a room where it's a lot of egos, I would imagine, just all over the place. Kiz, I think, he would be able to level that down a little bit and get everybody on the same level. He's a no-brainer, obviously, for this crew. Yeah, no-brainer. So I hope they pick him. We're going to have, you know, we're going to be, if he continues to play well, we're going to be pushing hard on that campaign.

Agreed. And amidst all this success he's been having, all this money he's been making, he still found time to churn me about practicing, which I appreciate in a teammate. I think he was tied six. It was Saturday night. And he was like, I was tweeting about watching Pulp Fiction. And he tweeted at me being like, you need to be at Five Iron. And he's right. He's right.

Everybody got a big kick out of that. But he's right. I went to Five Iron the next day. And you went. You listened. I listened. It's accountable. It's accountability.

It's motivation. What's that emoji where it's like, or it's blowing the smoke out? That's what people tweet. You know what I'm talking about, Frankie? Fuck, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that's usually when something goes hard, right?

No, it's motivation. Is it motivation? Yeah. I thought it's like if there's like a good verse, if there's like a good verse and like a song, like someone's like, oh, like it's like, hmm. I think it can be used for both. But anyway.

Hey, ask Jake Bass. He's probably our guy. No, yeah, that's like, you know, like in the gym, getting work in. Oh, that's always wrong. It's not hard. It's not hard. It's not hard.

It's not hard. It's not. I thought it was going hard. It's, yeah, so shout out to Kis. He's just, he's just killing it on all levels right now. I want to apologize to Kevin Kisner. You know, I was at a 4th of July party, and we had the golf on, and I turned it on the ninth hole, or like the ninth or 10th hole.

And so I'm watching him, and I'm like, this guy's going to fucking do it today. He was tied for the lead at one point. He was won back then. And I said, you know what? I just tweeted out Kevin Kisner with a period. And once I tweeted that, he went boogie, bogey, never had a job. chance for the rest of the day. He actually missed the green on that first bogey the second I hit tweet. It like it flew the green and it was just like, uh-oh, what's happening here? He missed

the pot. It's like, oh boy. And he just never had a chance after that. So I don't want to be hard on kids like I was two weeks ago, but it's like, come on man. Like how many more of these chances are we going to get? Like, let's go. Like we're right there. But he'll probably shove it up my asshole like Jordan Smith did because like you guys say when you're just building a good golf game golf's a game where you you take it week by week most sports aren't like that like I always say like hockey games you can't take the goals from the game one to game two you saw that in the islander series eight nothing in the next thing they won like golf I guess is just different where like if you find your swing it can last over weeks to weeks to weeks I always assume that it's never going to happen

but it just does like it guys prove it all time and time and again I'll say too that the um you know, Kiz is in his team, the Till gang, which Trent's a part of. They, at the U.S. Open, we're talking about, you know, as like, how's his game, how we're feeling? I'm expecting very negative stuff because it was Kevin Kisner at the U.S. Open, which he is openly admitted. Like, he just doesn't think he can win, win, basically. And he, uh, and they were like, no, he's been, we really feel like he's turned to corner. He's been playing really well. He's getting, like, really shitty rub of the green right now.

Like, every time he misses a fairway, it's like in the lip of a fairway bunker and that, like, cost him a stroke. you know, he hits like a sick little draw at like a left pin and it like catches the wrong knob and ends up in a horrible spot where he makes bogey instead of having like a five foot putt for Bertie and that happens over time. And we talked a lot on this show about how somebody can win by four shots over the course of a week and that looks like a lot, but it's literally nothing. Like one shot a day is nothing. So hearing that and then all of a sudden, you know, he makes the cut at U.S. Open, didn't play

phenomenal over the weekend. but then he has a couple top 10 finishes, back-to-back, top eight finishes, really. And I do think that that's building up. And Kis is hitting it well. This major, the British Open, which coming up next week, is his best major championship, historically. He's played well there. He's had a few different chances to win. He likes it.

He plays kind of a relatively low draw. He puts it really well. And so, you know, he could contend out there, especially if that win picks up and stuff. So keep your eyes on Kevin Kisner going into this next. this next little stretch because our boy could make some hay and hopefully gets his way on that Ryder Cup team because it'd be really cool to see him out there. All right. Next time, by the way, I just looked this up because, you know, coming up here real soon, we're going to be doing the Michigan trip like we said. Look at this.

Oh, can you guys see that? Oh, no. What's that? Four students. Four students. Golf Club. I want you guys see that logo. It's a beautiful logo, man.

That was the best part about Wyoming. is the wildlife was just there, just apparent and just there. Like showing a moose off to the side is just incredible. Wrong state. Montana? Montana? Yeah. No, no, but that's where the match was.

That's what I'm saying about, like, your logo, didn't that just have a moose on it for a student? Looks like a deer. But didn't you say Wyoming? Why'd you say Wyoming? Oh, did I say Wyoming? I meant to say Montana. Anyways, I was just saying like... Yeah, that's why I said different state.

Yeah, I appreciate that. Not even close either. Like, like words like. Pretty close. Yeah, yeah, location-wise. Yeah, I think like, similar landscape views, no? Yeah, yeah.

I just need to punch each other and get it over it. I just not even... Who would win that one? I wonder who would win that one. Yeah. Yeah, we do need to come up with some sort of competition between you two that you can just get all the tension out. That'd be nice. I don't have much tension.

Listen, I have tension against a lot of people. I have attention against just the world. It's not like, you know, it's not personal. Um, okay. We will be back on Tuesday. Uh, they have the John Deere Classic this week. So everybody gets fired up.

Start your engines. They glued to your television. I saw the featured groups came out. Woo! That's some, that's some good golf about to be playing. You know what they should do? You know what they should do to kick off the tournament?

They should be a gentleman. Start your engines. And they should rev up the John Deere tractors. And they should all just slowly go down the fairway. I love it. On the first fairway. That's kind of what they do. do it.

Kind of. They do bring out, like, the big movers. Yeah. I love that big putting arm. That big, like, putting arm on the full, they still have that. They still have. I've long said, and we talk about a lot on this podcast, is I want the John Deere to just go crazy. I want them to, like that to be the testing grounds for any new stuff they want to maybe

implement on the PJ Tour. Just be your own things. Not a circus necessarily, but like a. No, you're describing a golf circus. That's what you want it to be. It's such a clown-grinned tournament. that yeah we should be the four like we're recording this the wednesday before we should be four place cramble should be there right now i know it's great thank god we're not thank god we're

not right good point actually i'm happy no it's oh beautiful beautiful part of the country but yeah everybody you know be glued to your television this weekend for the john dear classic like they should have little mini they should have little mini excavators that pick up the ball out of the hole or something like that like it like it goes on to the green and just like scoops the ball out of the hole and get the factors are so slow. I think a tractor race would just be so boring. Right.

That would be so funny about it. Sounds like anti-combatics. No, if the mower's not going, dude, they rip. A tractor can rip if the mower's not going. How fast? Probably 15 to 20 miles an hour. Oh, yeah, that's really ripping. Well, I mean, on a tractor, that's moving pretty good.

15 to 20. Think about if you're driving through a neighborhood, then the speed limit's 25. Think about how slow that is. Did you ever go on a go-car growing up? No, I've never been on a go-cart. What about, where I grew up on the moon, Lourge? Well, I mean, not everybody's been on a go-car.

I would say, if you pulled people, I bet you on a go-car when you're a kid, it's 50-50. I will say. No, shit. Trent, have you been on a go-car? No, but so Frankie and I played Pine Hollow yesterday, and I rode a scooter around, a two-wheeled scooter. Motorcycle.

It was a motorcycle. Motorcycle by Frankie, really good picture of a power. By the way, will you send that to me? I want to put that on this. Yeah, I got you. I got it. So that thing goes 15 miles per hour, and it felt like I was going 100. Right, because you're so low to the ground.

That's a little bit of the tractor. That's what I was getting to. I had tears rolling down my face with this guy trying to learn. Like, we had all these guys, shout out Pine Hollow here in East Norwich, Pine Hollow Club. It's a golf course right here on Long Island that just got, it has new owners, and it's like really dialed in right now. It's awesome.

But they had a really good crew there. And they're like, Trent, do you want the two-wheeler? And we didn't really realize what that was about. Like, he's like, they're like, we have a two-wheeler and a three-wheeler and a regular cart. So they said, just give Trent the two-wheeler. It's his day. And he got on this thing. And, like, the tutorial was hilarious.

Dude, they're like, you have to lean back so that the stand can go on. And he couldn't figure it out. And the one guy goes, maybe you got to let your hand off the brake there, Trent. And he's like, oh, yeah. Like, dude, he was like lifting the thing up. It was so funny. The turns. He almost went into a car of a guy taking his,

clubs out of his car. It was so funny. The thing was going faster. I felt like it was going faster than it was. Enjoy the John Deere Classic. Enjoy the Scottish Open. We'll be back on Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.