Fore Play - The Next Big Trial? PGA Tour vs LIV Rages On

Episode Date: August 4, 2022

Riggs is back after a whirlwind weekend and about to tee off in the Wyndham Championship pro-am. How will LIV’s lawsuit vs the PGA Tour pan out? How wild would a public trial be? Bryson used an analogy identical to one from a recent episode. Stoolie Luke Donald is announced as European Ryder Cup captain. How do sharks have sex and would a great white defeat a polar bear in 6 feet of water?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. How much the world would burn if a live guy won the FedEx and then just won all that money and then just goes back to live and just continues to win that money? I don't know how the PGA tour players accept that. This guy's making all the dollars available. Yeah, all the money. All the dollars we have available for the whole game, the whole sport, like the old Tom Morris sport, he just won it all. He won all the money.

Everybody else just has to live off sponsorship dollars. Four players and I Barstool Sports. We have begun and we have again begun in quite the shit show. I have not listened yet to Tuesday show. I was on the group text that we have. And boy, was it just the biggest disaster I've ever seen in my. entire life. Now it appears everybody's frozen. My frozen to you guys? I just got back in. I was frozen for sure. Me too. I didn't know if it was me or if it was rich. I was a little frozen, but I think all of a

sudden now it's working. And of course, pre when we started recording, it was just working perfectly for everybody except Frankie. Frankie is down on the bottom right of my screen doing hand signals and trying to speak, you know, with sign language because we can't hear him. He's trying to figure out audio issues. So it seems like we're 0 and 2 this week early out of the gate on technical. Slow starts. For sure. Yeah, it's been awful. It's actually pretty amazing how well everything works, at least on my end, because I know I've been the guy who's had all the problems, which has been super unfortunate.

But it seems like when we hit record on this, this riverside or whatever recording device that we're using, it's like, what a fucking joke. What a fucking joke this technology is. Can you hear us? Yeah, it's pretty right now. Okay. Fucking joke. Why can't we just use Zoom? What happened to Zoom?

I don't care that he gets all these audio waves files individually. Something is clearly wrong with Riverside. We've done the podcast for five years, two years on the road. Something is wrong with Riverside. The audio's not working. The connection's not working. I don't even know what Riverside is. Is that like a fucking TV show on AMC?

I don't understand that this is a... Zoom literally is like a trillion-dollar company. that like flourished through COVID. I agree. Like I think there's something like when we're talking pre-show, I am 4K crystal clear talking to every single one of you. And then it seems like when we start like Riverside is like, all right, now we're going to rev up the engine because they're recording.

I do think it fucks with everything. When did we allow? We start recording every single time. How did we allow people to do this? And so when did we allow people to change the way our audio show is going to be? Like this is like can we make that decision? decision that we just want to do. We record our audio locally anyway.

How could we just dance when they tell us to dance? Who told us to dance? Why are we just doing it however the fuck we want to do? We just Jake Bass production? A couple weeks ago, we all just started looking at different link when we started recording a podcast. Been a fucking shit show. Like, if you, here's the thing, if you want to, I shouldn't give this information

away, but if you just want to like hack the boys, like, just be like, all right, they're going to record it this time. I'm going to send them a link and they're definitely going to click it regardless of what. Yeah, it's like, we'll just read the prompter. It's like, okay, links out and just any link that's there or just, that could be a virus. That could be anything. I'm excited to what I'm going to do is I'm going to read a thousand days.

I'm going to read the full exchange back and forth that went on from the recording of Tuesday show. I want to talk about Roman first. And then this text exchange was the most chaotic fucking thing I've ever been a part of to where I was laughing out loud. I knew you guys had to be throwing computers against walls and losing your fucking eyes. But I was laughing out loud. It's the angriest I've been in a very long time. It's about as mad as I've been in recent memory. Oh, boy.

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cool same link set out friend then it begins trant goes hmm i got a new computer and when i click the link it takes me to nowhere Alex goes just sent you one individually to Jake bass Lurch, we got a flight to catch. What's up? Frankie, just call in Trent and record audio on laptop. I'm just, boy, am I sitting there? Trying to get on a fucking plane with kids being like, what is going? And it hasn't even started yet. So then Jake Bass goes, follow the link on your phone and just record the audio with your mic. Be sure you have headphones while using your phone, though. Trent goes, my apartment has been seized by Murphy's Law. Nothing works in this place. Frankie goes, can you call in LOL? Trent, yeah, but you guys said you can't hear me. How is that going to work? Hot spot on your phone?

Question mark. Alex, what's happening when you join? It keeps kicking when I accept you in. Trent, that's what it was on initially and I was super delayed. It now says audio failure. Ooh, boy. Then Jake Bass. Put the pot on pause and switch to zoom and see if that works for Trent.

Alex goes, Frankie's frozen now, too. Jesus. Now I'm reliving this whole show. Disaster. Yeah, it was a complete for the first 45 minutes. Right. This was all while we were recording. Again, I know, like, I know what's going on in this thing.

But from my vantage point, I was in tears. Just like, what the fuck is going on? Oh. Well, you're, it's like, it's a situation that you don't have to deal with, which is the best situation to watch one just burn and light on fire and get out of control when you're just like, I'm not involved in that. So this is crazy. Frankie goes,

Frankie goes, this is crazy. If you call in Trent, that should be fine. Trent sends a screenshot that just says, audio failure. The microphone speaker's not working. Don't worry.

If you have been recording, it has been safely saved and is being uploaded. Restart Studio question. And then Trent just goes, that's as far as I get and I get booted. There goes my internet. It's a nightmare. And then Lurch follows up with,

I, Frankie's out again. Dude, so Frankie's shitting on Trent. Like, Frankie and I are kind of going, but we see Trent come in and out. And then that's why I say Riverside has a brain, because as soon as Frankie starts shitting on Trent, Frankie proceeds to lose everything three times. Not once, not twice, but three times. And that's where I think Alex, I was like, Alex, I'm just sitting there hands up. Alex is like, yeah, I mean, we just got to, we got to start maybe over or we got to cut some

things. It was a complete disaster all the way through. Yeah. From that part, it just went, it went straight into like, we're just not going to do the podcast and then somehow you guys ended up doing the podcast. So point being, for anyone listening that is clearly noticing slow starts to show, I think the behind the scenes from, from my vantage point, boy, boy, was it very fun to consume and not be a part of. And the updates just kept getting worse. It was like unimaginable because usually they just stop. Usually the update stopped because the show just starts and begins and it works it just never stopped it's got words it works it was crazy it was truly an insane day and i think that's what led to me saying i can't

have a child i don't have enough testosterone which i probably need roman teased um also i know that i'm delayed with you rigs like i can feel it like when i talk like a couple seconds later he reacts so it's like something's going on at some point the high higher ups of this podcast will have to decide that we have to have a better audio experience. I think that's just us. I think it's our call. I think that's us. Well,

clearly it's not. Hundreds of thousands of people listen to this show every single two times a week. And we're just like not doing the best job we can for when it comes to audio and video. It's crazy. I mean, you guys are legitimately, you, I can see Rakes through pictures. Same, actually. like like 1995 version of a screen but on fucking zoom i could see every fucking piece of hair coming off his face it's crazy you guys look clear on mine i don't i mean fuck man does riverside have jake like

a gun to jake bass's head that's what i want to know something's so now i bet there's got to be a i bet there's a side communication between alex and jake bass is long on riverside there has to be one boy on right now where he's telling jake bass boy are they shitting on you about riverside and i want to want to know what, like, what is Jake Bass saying to that? Jake Bass? Must be an Alabama founder or something like that. Jake Bass is long. He's just, he's in the screws for Riverside.

Right. He's like, well, I saw Nick Saban. He used it during one of his Zoom. So we're going to use Riverside from now on. Y'all just going to, y'all just going to use Riverside real quick. And then I'm going to, he's probably long on this thing. He's, I'm telling you he's, he has investments in Riverside.com. Riverside is the name of, the thing of what I think of what when we talk about

Riverside. It's the name of the local casino closest to me in Cedar Rapids. It's like 45 minutes away. We'd always, a couple times a year, we'd drive to Riverside and play the slots, play a little blackjack. Every time you guys say Riverside, that's what I think of. It's not a real company. All right. We got, what's our Thursday night video this week? We got another Trent breaking 90 coming up. Is that what we got? Breaking 90. Yeah. We're back. We're back. Took the week off last week. We didn't take it off, but like we just had scheduling. A couple of people have been asking me like, why is it not week to week? Why is it sometimes week to week?

Sometimes it's every other week. We've been traveling so much and we've all been so busy that sometimes Frankie's on the road or I'm on the road or we just can't get out to a course. We kind of explain that a week or two ago. So that's just why. But luckily we've been fortunate enough where, you know, instead of breaking 90 last week, we had Steph Curry playing in the Barstow Classic. So it's like even if there's not a breaking 90, there's. There's an insane video coming out on the 4Play YouTube page.

This week, it is another breaking 90. Frankie and I returned to Rockville links. We talked a little bit about it on the last show. Just tune in. You got to tune in. It's a great episode. Just tune in and watch it. It's very good.

So most we can say about it. And also I'll say, you know, we've been shitting on our behind the scenes guys, but guys like Jake Bass and Brendan Jones and Alex, they, like when we can't get one done Saturday, Sunday or Monday, the option of putting it out that week is over. So like if we're traveling for a weekend, because they can't physically edit that video within two days and get it up. So like when we don't find that pocket or if we're traveling during that week, it's really, really tough for these guys. So the fact that we've gotten it out as much as we have this year, last year with breaking 90, it felt like we were way more in the bank. Like we would record like three or four of them. And then like

three or four weeks would go out. And we'd be. we'd have break in 90s that almost like pizza reviews. And then we'd be like, oh, shit, we got to go record a couple more. Breaking 100, sorry. And then now it's like, bro, we got to film one tomorrow because then Brendan won't sleep for the next three days and he's going to get it out on Thursday. It's like the most up-to-date episode ever. Like what you're seeing tonight, we recorded like two days ago.

So it's fucking crazy. And honestly, like a little peek behind the curtain, like, and it's going to drive Brendan crazy that I say this probably. But when we banked the breaking up. hundreds. There was a part of me that didn't like that because things would happen in an episode where, like, then we wouldn't be able to react to in the next episode because we'd have already filmed it. Like, the bunker incident was a good example of that. Where the bunker incident happens actually at Rockville, where the next breaking 90 is. And then we had already filmed two other

ones. So when the bunker incident episode came out in the next episode, we couldn't address the bunker incident. So the more up to date it is, the more we can kind of react to the things that people react to in the episode. And again, I know that like that puts a big straight on our editing team. Brendan in particular, Brendan and Alex who, who edit these things. So,

but yeah, this one that's coming up. We just did it on Sunday, I think. So it's as up to date as you can. Better to have up to date content, basically the end of the day. But it's hard.

Fucking hard. I just feel like I can control it. I can like grasp it. I like know what's going on. But it would be nice to bank them because I wish they would start coming out every week. So we'll work on that. I like it. So,

Thursday night, 8 p.m. Eastern Time 4Play YouTube channel, which is popping off. We got way more subscribers. We got all kinds of fucking numbers coming in yesterday. It might be seven. I'm not sure if Barstool's most dangerous game show is, I think the finale might be airing on Thursday. So we might bump it up an hour. Not a huge deal, but it might be seven. All right. It might be seven. Good to know. The world premiere of the next episode of Breaking Nine. Very good to know. So go check it out on the YouTube page. The Hunt for 89 or Better continues from our guy, Trent. All right. I'm in Greensboro, North Carolina, first time ever here, Wind of Championship. I know we kind of, you guys touched on this at the Zurich Classic, but I was really thinking about it yesterday walking around. We don't go, we've never been to really or very rarely been to, like average PGA tour events. We kind of have only been to the majors because we get access and they bring us in. And we've talked a lot about how the USGA, for example, makes like 90 plus percent of their revenue in one week at the US Open.

So they're very much more willing to bring people like us in and amplify it. allow us to do whatever the hell we want. PGA Tour has 40 plus events and broadcast partners that, you know, are more entrenched throughout the year. So bottom line, they're a little bit more strict. And just the average kind of views and numbers and excitement about PJ Tour events to our crowd are going to be less than at major. So it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly to each one and check them out.

Having said on that, it's really cool to go to an event like an average BJTor event, which is what I would say the Wyndham Championship is because you see you see a lot more because it's way more relaxed. The players are just pretty much chilling. Like, they just go through this is their week to week. A major is their peak. It's one of their biggest moments of the year. They're tense.

They're more nervous than they usually are. They got more family in town than usual. They get more tickets to deal with. This is like what they actually do week to week. And then the other thing is you see how much it means to the actual tournament. Like the win of championship, this is like to this town in Greensboro and everybody that's been employed here. They've been employed at this tournament for like their whole lives. and they work all year for this event.

And when people come to town, they like, thank you for it. They're like so happy that you came to their town and came to their event. So seeing like the week to week, you know, and how much it means to that community, the build out, how proud they are of the build out, how proud they are of their champions. Like I was in the Wyndham house yesterday with a bunch of the crew who's done an unbelievable job. They let me come into their house and do my laundry because I haven't been able to do fucking laundry and forever. And the Wyndham house, like, because this is the Sedgfield, old Donald Ross course,

and it's a course that is as in a neighborhood as you can have on the PGA tour, which makes it really difficult for them to rope everything off and whatever. But point being that they, the Wyndham, you know, crew, they rent out this massive house that's like right on the course. And that's where they basically run their home base throughout the whole weeks. They have to build more things out. And it's cool, man, you go in there and they've got winners of all the champions, like framed and all the walls.

because they've made over the house. And then their biggest thing is like a three, one of those like three piece giant photos of Tiger hitting a shot in his Sunday Red when he like didn't even win the tournament, but clearly that's the big thing. And they tell the story of like, yeah, we got a call like a month out from Steinberg.

And he was like, we're not committing, but you're going to need to put like plans in place if Tiger Woods plays. And so he's there telling me the story from a handful years ago of like how iconic it was. They had a normal plan. and then they had a whole different contingency tiger plant. And they're like at 5 p.m. on Friday, we got a call that like Tigers in. And they're like, it just went into hyper mode.

Like we had to just change everything and gear up for Tiger Woods. And we just weren't even ready for that, even once he arrived and how fucking crazy it was. And they're talking about this. Like the guy didn't even win the tournament. Nothing like that. It was just that one year where Tiger came to their tournament. They all, like, can't believe and still talk about how cool it was that he came. So again, I know we've gotten to.

experience it a couple times, but going to just kind of a normal PGA tour event, it's fucking really cool how much it means and how passionate they are about this event, how proud they are about their champions. It's just, it's just really cool. Yeah. And we, I mean, I've been saying about that about the John Deere Classic for years that you guys haven't been listening about. But from what you said at the beginning is that like, we probably should go to more tournaments that like have, we should go to more tournaments that have semi stronger fields. And I bet we can get way more shit. Like, it's actually, the way you described that, it actually made me think, like, it's pretty amazing that we've gotten the amount of stuff that we've got in majors where the majors are so intense. There's only four of them a year.

The guys focus on them. They don't want any distractions. And yet, every major that we've gone to mostly, we're just wandering around getting incredibly insane content. So I think if we look at a PJ tour schedule and we say, like, which one of these has strongish fields, we should just go there and hammer it for like four days. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think you're, you're spot on. And like yesterday, I mean, yesterday they gave me a, like they, they had a chauffeur with a cart and was just driving me to different groups and we're like, where do you want to go? Like, what do you want to do? And so it's like I was able to just literally drive up. Kids was laughing out loud when I arrived at their group with him. Scott Stalling, Scott Brown was in the group. And they're like, what the fuck is this? The guy just dropped me off in a cart. It's like, text me when you want me to pick you up. And they just, they're like, they're just so fucking happy that people were there. and are showcasing and talking about and are excited about their event. So I'm pumped. I'm pumped to be in Greensboro, never been here before.

I will say I just found out this morning playing on the pro M at 1210 with kids. I just found out like I can't even hit balls at the course. I can hit balls here at the hotel that I'm staying at. But there will be like go hit balls here. Then you don't hit a ball for an hour, hour and a half after you like commute to the course and all that. So it's going to be pretty, it's going to be pretty dicey going off that first tea. might be a two iron all day and just try to

try to poke my way around this thing. We got Chris Lane in the group too. Chris Lane, who's a friend of the program. Him and his wife are all over Instagram. They're great. And he's got absolute banger after bang or after banger. So he's in our group.

And I think somebody from his posse, like maybe his brother or somebody like that, I can't remember his playing. So we got a pretty damn fun group out there today. And the course is sick. It's like old Donald Ross track, Sedgefield. Like it's really,

really cool. so I'm pretty pumped to play the golf course. So, yeah. Yeah. How is the jet experience? The jet experience was elite. This thing, so I guess they're pretty brand new. Honda jets, they're like smaller.

It was like a four-seater. I mean, this thing was tiny. Four-seater, you could get a little bit of luggage in there. It was like just enough for, you know, our clubs and a few bags. And then do this thing rips. When you got a small plane like that and very little weight, I mean, this thing just turned on the runway and Kiz was like,

bro, I think this thing goes like pretty fucking fast. And then it was, it was like zero to we were in the air faster than you've ever seen to the point where as soon as they started going, it's like we were in a spaceship. It was like, and you're like way back.

And it's so light. It just rips around. It was like a go cart in the sky. It was really cool. And it was a brand new plane. Like it smelled like new car where they haven't even taken off the little paper things on the floor.

Dude, I just googled it. It's like go-car in the air. I mean, that thing is tiny. There's like three windows to this jet and two jet engines. I mean, that thing must go as fast as humanly possible. Dude, it goes. Yeah, kids asked the pilots. Pilots are really, like, cool.

They're all jacked up because, again, it's a pretty new company and new, new, like, plane that they had come up with. But, uh, Kiz asked the guy, uh, pilot, he's like, how fast this thing going? And the guy's like, we're going to go, like, almost 500 on a, and we were like, do we got from Pittsburgh to Greensboro in like 45 minutes on this thing. We were like never and we were way up there because you know the tiny little plane. It was like it was like we were a satellite. I mean, we were like I think we were at 37,000 feet or something in that little thing.

And it and kids is like there's going to probably be some turbulence of this thing too. I mean, if we hit the tiniest cloud, it was like. Do you do. It was cool though. It was sick. It was fast as fuck. I got to be honest. the if if i had gotten on a jet or if i had gotten to the to the airport and they'd been like all right

we got a new plane for you guys to get in and now it's time for you to fly to north carolina i would have like probably shit my pants and still got on but i would have shit my pants for sure i feel like old planes they we know like they've got a history they can fly we're pretty clear on that new planes they're just like this thing's super new so we're gonna try like how new are we talking here like i mean you know it flies right like it could fly is that right so yeah it was it's all like the whole right the whole plane is the engine they've successfully he looked at like the entire plane is an engine so it's almost like it reminds me like a great white shark with a whole thing it's just one giant muscle

and it could just rip her it was like the plane was just engines that's all the whole thing was so it just when it turned you know you cut the guy had to do like the we had to we had to fly we had to take off in the opposite direction. So we had to drive all the way down to the other end of the one runway. And when he turned from like the moment, moment he started turning to when we were in the sky going 500 miles an hour, felt like two and a half seconds. It was, it was unbelievable. So yeah, Honda jets. Yeah, the new plane thing scares the shit out of me because like they've successfully done it six times, but they haven't done it 10. Like, you know, you haven't gotten to that milestone yet. Like, yeah, we know that it can get, we're 100%, but we've yet to reach that mark of like,

same plane. Yeah. We're 10 out of 10 flights. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we might be 8 out of 10 at the end of this week. We have no idea. Like, we've yet to reach that milestone yet. So that's a little nerve-wracking.

I'd like to have my planes hit 100% success rate over thousands of flights. That's like, that's my comfortability, like, area. But, dude, that thing, that picture, it was insane. You guys were taller than the plane when you were getting into it. So, I mean, that thing rips. That thing absolutely fucking rips. It was cool. It was a go cart.

It was just a souped up go cart in the sky. And it's like it's kind of basically their, their theory is it's like an executive, like a small executive almost like day trip plane. So it's not, you know, yeah, it's not like you have your whole fucking C suite on there or whatever. It's like if you got one person that needs to get to a place with a fucking carry on basically or two people, they need to rip their rip back for the day. That's pretty much what it's for. like more affordable than getting a eight or ten passenger jet or whatever. So, um, so yeah, it was cool. It was definitely scary.

I was like, you know, do you have like an older one that's got like a track record that we could, we could jump into and, you know, you would like to see that. Rigsie, how's the game? Yeah, where, oh,

how's the game? We talked about a little bit on the last show. Like we were saying, you know, you can get the wipey things going. We got Wyndham coming up. I actually defended you a little bit in the shalacking that you were taking. by also delivering a couple jabs to yourself as well. But saying that we both made Eagle in our buddies trip,

and it was just like one of the most epic moments of all time. You chipped in. So I was like, the game that I saw was phenomenal. Couldn't be any better. However, it's always a little bit of an up-in-the-air situation. You saying two iron off every tea at Wyndham leads me to believe, and there was some leakage that you didn't hit the ball great at Oakmont. So I'd love to hear an update of how we're going into it.

another pro am. Yeah, it's a good question. I will say that, uh, I, you know, look, Monday, I have my fair share of excuses for Monday's performance. So I'm going to pretty much throw that out as an outlier. I had, I had three rounds in a row leading up to that that were in the 70s. I shot 78 at Oakmont with rental clubs with a three put on 18 that was like the only thing fucking that got on the internet.

Um, and so I felt pretty good about my game. I went two and oh at the GWC with an eight and seven drubbing. and a two and one against giving a guy 11 shots. I think I shot like high 70s, both rounds there, not the hardest course in the world, and then made that iconic eagle, which it sounds like Lurch told everybody about. But I am going through a case of I can get the standing over the T ball with the driver,

and you know there's no way you can't hit it way, way, way, right? And then you swing and it goes way, way, way, right. So like, that is still in the bag at the ranch club where we had our tournament, Western Mass. Like I only hit driver twice the whole time. And it was in the playoff. It was on the first hole and the 10th hole. And both of those are wide open holes.

And they were straight downwind. So it was like even if you put some sidespin on the ball, the downwind is going to just take that side spin off and just hurl it straight. So that was like, that was pretty nerve-wracking in the playoff with all of our boys and the whole weekend on the line, standing over there with the driver that the whole internet knows is off the fucking planet right now. But again, it was downwind. I just kind of committed. I was several drinks deep and just let it rip and got

probably lucky that they just sailed into the fairway. But if I get like a tight tea shot with a bunch of people watch it, it's like a little into the wind and off the left, I can't hit it on the property right now. So I have to figure that out or I just hit that two iron. Like against our boy, Flinney, I just hit two iron the entire day and just make other people make mistakes. Like I can win matches doing that But with the driver You know It can get pretty fucking dicey right now

We'll just I mean you guys saw it You saw my first two sheet t shots at Crail Maybe the most wide open golf course on earth And I hit two Way out of bounds Yeah The caddy looked at me at Creil

And said that he's never seen a ball go on the water He's been there for like 60 years I'm told But uh I mean it's tough Like I even talked about like I And I was The cool thing

about what I'm doing right now as I'm talking about my chipping yips in the past tense. I said when I had the chipping yips, it's the first I've ever done that. Those were really bad, you know, internet viral bad. But it always felt like I was able to enjoy the day because from T to the point where I would dribble the ball around the green, it felt like I kind of played the game of golf. I was able to walk with the group from the T. I basically had like 450 yards worth of fun. And then it got ridiculous and I'd be like, I'm picking up, I'm going to the next hole. But that felt a little more like, you guys just finished up and then I'll meet you on the next one. When you can't, when you have the driving yips, you're out of the hole from the beginning. So it's like, you now are walking with

shame from the T to the green and everyone's like, that was ugly. Like, it's different. It's a different type of yips. Like, you can definitely get away from it by hitting irons. But if you're playing a long golf course, like I'll get into my round from yesterday later. Like, I played the fucking bridge like if you don't have your driver there or a three wood that's like piercing through the wind you are so fucked like so your whole day's over you're making an eight on every hole dude there is nothing worse than that like when we back in the day when we played beth page black and i put up a million and i would just meet you guys at the green i felt like i was coming back from war when you like appear and your buddies are on the green and you're just like oh oh like all right i'm i'm back now i made an

11, but I didn't get to see you guys. I didn't get to like crack any jokes. It's been, and when you do that over and over and over again, it's, it becomes the least fun day. It's the worst. Dude, it's fucking sucks. And you're looking for balls a lot. Like, looking for balls is by far the least coolest part of golf.

It just fucking sucks. And you're, oh, how have we not figured that out yet? How not even just somebody? Like golf has been around for a long, when we're in Scotland, we figured out just how long golf has been around. And the fact that the guys back then that we're playing, we're looking for balls, just like the guys now like us are playing, it's the same thing. It's honestly an embarrassment to the technological advancements of golf. Like we've got the best driver in the world. We've got the best clubs in the world. Shout out to Taylor made. They are peak technology.

Peak. And we are still just looking for golf balls. It's crazy. It's outrageous. It sucks. Nobody wants to do it with you. You don't want to do it. You just want to like find it immediately. when you can't find it, you start to panic and you're like, am I going to have to go back to the T? Well, I'll just drop here so I have to ruin the pace. But then I'm kind of sketchy, my round sketchy. Everybody's looking at me like, I'm sketchy, but you're not trying to be sketchy. Right.

You just want to like, you just want to play the hole. And then when you got that, when you're hitting them off the planet too, it's like, you know, you get up to the green or after the round, people are like, man, that, that, that course is really cool. I got, that third hole was sick. And you're like, I don't know. I don't even get to play it. Like, I don't fucking know.

Like, sure. Like sure it was cool, I guess for you guys. Like I didn't even play the fucking course. So it's like it fucking sucks. Like I luckily we play mostly from like 65, 6,600. And that two iron thing I have, I can always rely on it. It's pretty much always going to be in play. But like then you're just chasing.

You're chasing on every hole. It was like you're never really playing golf. You're never really in an advantageous spot. Right. Like if you come up to a 420 yard par four, somebody that could pipe a drive like 280, to 90, 300. They have like a short iron or a wedge in. And if I hit like a pretty good two iron,

I'm still like 200 out or 180, 190. If I hit an okay one, maybe I'm 210 out on a part four. And you're like, well, at least I'm in play. But now I got to hit the same fucking clubbing in the green. So yeah, it's just, it'd be cool. Or if you could just fucking roast driver down on the middle, it would be great. 100%. Speaking of great curve,

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side. It's going to be in play. And a few of them are going to be piped out there. And I'm in great shape. But then it's like, you can get on the T, first T, and hit a bad one. and then the rest of your round, you just stand on the tea thinking like, oh my God, it's out there. It's out there. It's out there. So, yeah, it might be some two irons today.

I'll definitely stand on that first tee. I mean, I don't know what the hole is unless it's like an outrageously, clearly not driver hole. Obviously for the show, I mean, you got to step up there with driver and just fucking see what happens. But, you know, once we start getting into the round, if the driver's a little loosey-goosey, which it has been, then I might just rip that two iron around and see what happens. Would you rather be me or you with a driver right now? Well, I think in terms of like if it were just pure like, um, like, I think my two iron goes relatively similar. So that's the only reason I wouldn't say you, but otherwise I would say absolutely you.

Like if you, I guess if I had to hold a driver in my hand and hit it, I would rather be you. That's right. Oh, okay. Yeah, because it's going to like it's going to go like 205, 210, 250. 225, 2.30 if I'm piping it. But it's going to be in the fairway almost for sure. So if I have to stand on a T with a driver by the hand, I would 100 times out of 100 rather be Trent Ryan right out.

I mean, one little tease for breaking 90 tonight. At one point, Trent hit a drive like 265. Yeah, I did. I actually was hitting it well on the other day. Which is insane. That number was nuts. Like out drove me. We were like, how far is that ball really?

Like really how far is that? We like measured it. It was like 268. It's like what the fuck just happened? I caught up with, caught up with Tilly yesterday, Trent. He was, um, he was very, very up on what he's seen Tita Green. He said his, his one, his one like, um, issue with the entire thing is he's like, I wish, I wish we could,

I wish we could work on it. Trent could go out for a week or two and play and grind and then he could come back and we could work on it again. And then he could go out and he's like, it's, what's really. frustrating to him, which makes a lot of sense. It's like, he'll come see me once a year because of obviously obvious reasons. Everybody's schedule all that. And then it's like he's supposed to just go out there and like be, be better. And it's like if I could see what he's working on and see him in real life and come and he could go see how it changes from when he's, you know, at my place

to when he's on the course. And he's like, but his swings fucking looking really good. It's just hard to, it's hard for him to not be able to control it. When all the guys he works with on tour and shit, he's fucking with him like every week. Right. Yeah, the system's not perfect when it comes to like the teaching of it. Like, and there is a part of me that I mean, I would love to go see Tilleri all the time. Like I would love to fly down there do it, go do around. And like that would be ideal because then I'm like, we're hands on every single week.

There is a part of me that's like he's John Tilleri and like he has real clients. So it's like I can't I can't just take up all of his time. Like he's flying around. He's going to the window. He goes and he sees kids and all of his guys. are at these different tournaments. These guys are paying him, I would imagine, pretty well. I don't know, but I would imagine that's how that relationship works.

And I'm just like a guy who like gets internet views because we work together and it goes really well. So yeah, but I would, even with that said, I would still like to go down there more frequently. Like I should probably, I mean, we've been so busy. But if I could jump down there even like in the next couple weeks and just like get another lesson and then fly back up like that would do wonders for me, my game is headed in the right direction. Like I'm playing incredibly well. It's just even with a little bit more of like every time I go see Hillary, I just feel way better about my game when I leave. Even with that added like just that

feeling of being like, all right, this is what I'm supposed to be doing a couple different swing thoughts, a couple of things to get me in the round, staying in the round. That'd be great. But yeah, right now it's like he probably, he probably feels like I see him once a year and then he just goes out there and ruins my reputation. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't, he wasn't as deep as he ruined my reputation, but, uh, but no, he was very, he was very much just like, I wish I could be more hands on and it makes it difficult. And I was like, that makes a lot of sense.

That, that checks out for sure. Totally. Um, no doubt. All right. Uh, Bryson. I got a couple things in here. Um, I don't know. Have you guys been seeing these tweets with Bryson?

apparently on Tucker Carlson yesterday, I think his interview went up, was on there talking about live. And apparently he used just the exact same example that we used about Borrellys of like if somebody came in with a pizza shop right next door and just paid all your employees a million dollars a year, how could you compete? And Frankie made the point of like, yeah, but like 10 years prior, if you had kind of started, realize that could happen and get ahead of it and take care of people in a different way, you could be more prepared to handle something like this.

And what I will say on that because people are like clearly Bryson listens to the show is that I definitely think Bryson listens to the show. And the reason I think that is because he like a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, DM me one time just basically being like, you know, I can't believe you had that kind of a take. You know, I'm never going to do anything with you guys again. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And he was like, I think you know and you need to, you know, whatever, and went back and forth. And I was thinking the only way that he could, I went on the foreplay Instagram and was like, did we get Jake Bast with like a fucking clip

where he put something on there that that Bryson saw and is like, and there was no, there were no clips on there that could have been referenced. It was all just general bullshit. We weren't talking about Bryce. So I was like, the only way that he could know something that he's upset about,

I still to this day don't know what it was, but I was like he must be deep in listening to the show. He has to be. And then for him to come up with, you know, the exact same fucking, comparison. I think he's clearly listening to the show,

which I like. I have no, I have no issue with that. I, um, yeah, I guess I'm not like stunned that Bryson would be listening to the show, but it was interesting that he used the exact same, the exact same, uh, analogy on Tucker Carlson. Yeah, it was exact. So, I mean, either he's listening

the show or someone that's helping him get prepared for interviews or shows. I mean, it's not crazy to think that someone in the golf world would listen to like the number one Apple Apple Golf podcast, you know, on the planet. I do think that he probably hears some of our takes, whether he's digesting him or someone else is feeding it to him. So yeah, I, you know, it's just a weird world scene like that he has to like go on fucking like political talk shows and talk about golf. That was a weird world.

And he's like the way he talks, I read like a transcript of his quote and you can almost just like hear. You can hear his voice exactly the way he says things, how he like can't get to the point. And he's like, you know, well, like, it's like this, right? So it's like, fucking get to it, man. Like, what are you talking about? You're a robot. So, yeah, that was just a weird, weird world. They got a ton of tweets about the Italian restaurant reference.

Yeah, so hello, Bryson. You know, I hope it's going well out there on live. Bryson can't get out of his own way. He's like, I think he got so much criticism that his, like, robotic in terms of, like, then he tried to, like, change the way that he should be talking to try to be more, like, appreciated in the public eye. And now he doesn't even know how to talk because like to Frankie, to your point of like,

he kind of like just doesn't really get to the point. And it's like, dude, just be yourself. It is so weird who you are. And you're making it weirder because I feel like now you're trying to be someone else. But I appreciate the hello. Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't talk like that when we like see him behind the scenes or when we were doing

the pizza review after, you know, like he won the US Open Frankie. Like I, he think he just goes into media mode and his media mode is the most. transparent media mode I've ever seen in my life. He doesn't say anything. He never says anything. He just kind of like and then when he does say something, it's a disaster. Like when he actually says something, it just doesn't make sense. It comes off like a total asshole. Or he sits there and

you're right. He kind of like slowly just always beats around it and never actually gets to a hardcore point. It's just, it's weird the way he talks to media. I wish he would just be fucking himself because he's fine when he's himself. Yeah. In real life, in person, He's actually a normal and cool guy. I'll go on record saying that. I've seen him multiple times. We've all talked to him like behind the trucks area of like the PJ Championship where there wasn't any fans and he sees us and like dapping us up.

And there is so he's such a different person like, oh yeah, that's why people like him. And that's why people can say on him. And then I think he's even different amongst his like peers on the range. Like PJ tour players thought that he was like a weirdo and like couldn't get to the point. and like he was just he's just different almost like a tiger can't like dress himself off of grass once bryson gets within the ropes everyone he speaks to he's like a robotic weirdo but then like when he gets off of that and he's just in shorts and like a t-shirt and jeans and shoes he's like a really cool dude that's like a young professional athlete and like if you had a chance to hang out with him

you'd be like that was an amazing experience because bryson's like fucking awesome and like the guy hits the ball a mile and he's got a really cool personality it's like completely opposite it night and day. And then you throw him into this situation that they're in now where it's coming with a pretty heavy amount of criticism and it makes it a thousand times worse. It seems like he might just honestly get nervous. Yeah, he probably does. How has, um, we haven't talked about it, but how has Bubba taking all this stuff?

Because we had Bubba on the show and he talked about how he like doesn't do well with criticism and like cares about what everyone thinks about him and like struggled with all that stuff of like being a dad and like caring about anxiety and like you took him away from being like a father and shit i mean his podcast with us was deep and like serious and now all of a sudden he just signed up to do the most controversial thing you can do in golf like what's your guys take has anyone seen the way he's handled any of that i know he put out like a notes app but aside from that like i haven't really seen no i'm from brides i honestly i haven't that's a good point i you know i would guess he's i was just going to say maybe he's just staying off of stuff but he's pretty into

stuff he's you know he's one of the big social media guys he was in the top 10 for the pip last year. So I know some people have really gone and focused on how live while they haven't gotten a lot of the top, you know, 15, 20 talent in the world. They've gotten, you know, a handful of the PIP winners. So he's one of those guys. That's a good question. That makes me think that Bubbo's close to checking out, right? Like, I think that for a lot of these guys, they sign a three year deal. They're like, I'm going to do this for three years. I'm going to make 10x or more than I would have made. And I'm fucking hanging them up. See you later. And I think that that's probably. that's probably baba to a T. It does seem like for these guys that join Liv, the first time you hear from them, which is usually at the initial announcement press conferences, that's when they get punched in the face.

That's when they get asked questions, like what do you think about Saudi Arabia's treatment of gay people? And then they say, like, I don't know much about that. And then the headlines go crazy. And then they just sort of, they start playing the tournaments and they are less exposed to a media that will ask them those questions. I haven't seen Bubba's, like, announcement and initial press conference.

I don't know if he's gone through that yet, but I think that's when we'll get the first glimpse of how Bubba is taking all this. And I think he'll just kind of react like everybody else, be like, I don't, you know, I'm here to golf. I'm here to do, I'm here to do the golf thing. And then they just kind of move on. I have not seen that initial press conference from Bubba yet. But the check test thing doesn't make. I mean, like, it's so easy just to like say, hey, I'm here for the money. Like, that's what it is.

No, we talked about that, though. They can't. DJ did it, and I think it's fine. Did he do it? Yeah, we say that they've never done it. Like, Pat Perez wore like a collared shirt that had $100 bills on it instead of he hit the lottery. I know, but they always dance around it.

Nobody ever just says, like, my shirt's got money. His shirt was insane. He wore literally a shirt that just Benjamin's all over it. He's like, I am the richest person a lot. And he, like, looked around and just pour champagne on people. And, like, he's like, it's all about the money. just pouring it on people's heads. I would love to know Pat Perez is even practicing right now.

Who cares? He's just shooting millions of dollars. Phil's doing the same thing. The Bubba thing goes against like the legacy argument or like he's the one that really I think surprises a lot of people. Like when you guys are talking about like some guys really care about it. He's a two-time master's champion. Like if he's checking out in three years, I don't see why if he cared about those types of legacies, why he would do that then with like I know it's a lot more money but like that guy is a legacy guy

like he legitimately balls his eyes out when he puts on the green jacket it's one of the best moments ever the lefty the whole thing never had a teacher growing up he's like a legacy guy especially at augusta so like taking that risk almost that's to show you that like these guys know something that we don't like they might be allowed back at augusta like why would bub ever risk that is my question. DJ cried after his master's. He's not a legacy guy. Bubba is, though, is what I'm saying. I don't think he is. I don't know if he is either.

You don't think that he's like a PGA tour storyline guy, like for all of our, his generation of golf, you don't think Bubba Watson was a storyline guy. I don't think he is, dude. I feel like you're mixing things up. Those, like, winning masters doesn't make you a legacy guy. And storylines don't make you a legacy guy. Winning two of them definitely does. And like, as a lefty and like his story.

I think it does in our eyes. Yeah. It doesn't make it in his eyes. For us, he's like, he's a legend. But for Bubba, I think he's like what a legacy is. No, but it's, you know, like, become a legend like in your own house. Like, you become a legend to like the fans. Like, he is a huge name on the PGA tour.

He's a guy that like, he like took a step forward in a generation of a bunch of really good golfers. Like that is a legacy type player on the PGA tour. We can't act like it's nine. One, two masters. No, but for us, though, like, we're talking about a Kalmorekow who says, I'm here to fucking beat everybody. I don't, I don't care about the money. I don't care about any of that shit. I want to be the next Tiger Woods of this generation. Just because you win tournaments doesn't mean you care like about the legacy. You just were good enough that week to win that tournament.

Yeah, I agree. I think the legacy thing is more in everybody else's eyes, not necessarily in Bubba. It's like he feels like 10 years ago. He said he might retire before he turns the age of 40. Like I don't think that he was that committed to building a legacy. I, I, so I, you know, I think that I also think that on the legacy front, I think that these guys are convinced or are being convinced that it's not a bad move, right? I think that either the people around them or their team who are all making way more money as well when they make more money, right, are pretty much at this point being like, yeah, here's this example of this player. DJ didn't get that much pushback. Perez didn't get much negativity. It's really, it's blown over.

You're totally good. And so I think they've got a lot of that convincing them as well. and they might not be wrong. Like I think, I don't think like Bubba's gotten roasted very much. He's kind of like just gone to live. No, not at all. And I think he's done it perfectly, honestly,

because he stayed out of it. Like, I think if you go to live and you talk to no one and you just show up and you play and you get paid at the end, I think you do it honestly perfectly. Also, the guys that have done it the best way, I think is when you go in a big group. Like after the playoffs, if 15 more guys go,

no one's going to really care about this eighth or ninth guy. It's when you're like the like the Phil Mickelson obviously was the worst. But like if Cam Smith and Victor Hovlin and all these guys like go after the FedEx, it's going to be hard to be like, all right, like who are we talking about tonight on CNN? And then like tomorrow we're going to get Victor. And then the next day we're going to get this guy. The next, it's like, dude, at that point, it's like they already like in Driver's Ed. They teach you to drive in a pack like when you're on the highway. Like you don't ever want to be the lone wolf because the cop will see that.

And they'll be like, that guy can get that guy if he's going over the speed limit. If you drive in a pack, they're not going to get everybody. So everybody just move forward in a pack and you won't get picked out and you won't go. That's exactly right. I think we're all, the whole golf world is interested to see what Augusta National does. Because at this point, they've got a couple green jackets in there. And it's starting to get real dicey if you don't allow those guys to like the champions dinner. It's going to be really, really interesting come April.

I'm like, that's like my storyline I'm looking forward to because fuck, if they just did. Nye that it's an invitation, right? So they just don't have to send the invitation. That would be fucking wild if Bubba Watson's not. Who knows if there's any validity to this? But the latest rumor I've heard around with Augusta is that they're considering allowing past champions to play and nobody else from live. Wow. Who knows if that's true.

Who knows if they. So you're essentially, you're eliminated. So that's like if you're a player, you're eliminating your chance to ever play in the Masters. but if you're a past winter, they're still honoring what you've done there. Like, that kind of makes sense to me. And that's like,

that's a really tough pill to swallow. If you go to live, you can't play in Augusta. That is, that's really tough. Because at some point, it is all about the money, like,

to all these guys that went, but at some point, like, we've made fucking ridiculous, hypotheticals. Like, would you take a million dollars or the chance to go play,

like, four rounds at Augusta National tomorrow? Like, we've, like, entertain them. those ridiculous types of questions just to step foot on those grounds. And like those guys, like golf is the biggest thing in their world. Crazy to not be able to play in the Masters.

It's like, yeah, crazy. You're basically signing up for a team to like automatically never make the playoffs. Like here's like $100 million and your team will never, ever, ever enter the playoffs. You can never play a really competitive, meaningful game in your life. But you're going to make like $100 million contract. Like some guys are going to be like, fuck. Like I need, I need to play the playoffs once. I need, like, I need to try it.

Now that's, the Masters will kill, live. That would, that sucks for them, big time. But also with the, with the world rankings and how that's working out, like, if, like, they wouldn't be able to get in anyways, be like, I don't know who, you know, it's almost like if you're, because you're not going to be high enough on, you know, because the Masters does have their criteria of top 50 and whatever it is. Like, if you're not top 50 in the world, you didn't finish top 10 in the FedEx Gup or whatever because you clearly didn't even play.

You didn't win a PJ tour event the last year. because you don't play in the PGA tour, then you, like, don't qualify anyway. So it's, it's, it's going to be fucking tricky.

I think that these guys are for now signing up to, to not ever play on the PGA tour again and to not play in the Masters and potentially the PGA championship going forward. But I also think, I mean, they're going to file, it sounds like they're going to file, Liv's going to file a lawsuit this week against PGA tour and against,

you know, official world golf ranking situation that they're convinced. I think the live is convinced that their players are going to be able to play in the FedEx Cup playoffs, which, I mean, that's gotten so real that, that belief that Davis Love the third just came out and said, I was just looking like, if, if the live golfers are allowed to play on the PJ tour again, we're going to boycott the president's cup. We're not going to play the president's cup. Right.

To the point, yeah, he was like, we just, well, and then if, like, like, like we're forced that they're even allowed to play by that he was like by the f tc and washington he just kind of made these like crazy kind of like claims at it was like we're just not going to play the president's club he said it was like it was kind of one of the craziest press conferences of all time it was yeah it's unbelievable i mean that's insane that's i mean imagine how much the world would burn if a little guy won the fedex and then like just won all that money and then just goes back to live and just continues to win that money like i don't know how the pga tour players accept that like this guy's making all the dollars available yeah all the money

all the dollars we have available for the whole game the whole sport like the old tom morris sport he just won it all he won all everybody else just has to live off sponsorship dollars it's like you just can't win anything up to this point i you know i've been a pj tour guy unlike frankie i'm not a live guy, but I would say if that happened, I'm rooting for that to happen more than anything. I mean, the chaos from that. Everybody, buddy, golf would just elevate into the stratosphere. Everybody would have the storyline guy. I told you.

I felt the same thing when like COVID started. I told you guys this like a long time ago. Like that first week, you're like, wow, businesses are closing. You're like, holy shit. Like this is fucking different. This is a where were you moment? At this point, like, we haven't gotten to the point where like when COVID was like, holy shit, this is going to be two years.

Like, this is the worst thing it's ever happened in our lifetime. People are, like, dying. This is insane. I haven't felt that with Liv yet. Like, it hasn't ruined golf for me yet. Like, I'm still at the point where things are really interesting. I haven't felt affected that it's ruined the game for me yet. So, yeah, if, like, if there's a lawsuit and we start seeing, like, Roger Clemens type,

like, like, if they're at, if they're at, like, the hill, like, arguing with the judge using shit. Raphael Palmerro, like, fucking wagging their finger. And, like, that's going to be. fucking insane. Like, I mean, come on. We're going to be typing shit on the internet and we're going to be saying shit into microphones. That's going to be electric. Come on. That's nuts. I think they're going to get there. I really honestly do. I think that, yeah, I mean, they're going to try to file and say that like what the tour is doing is illegal. It's against X, Y, and Z in a contract. And they're going to, they're going to file it in a district where they know the judge, know the situation, know and

believe that they're going to get it passed that even if it's not for the long term in the interim, I think they believe they can get a ruling that'll be like, yeah, okay, for the next month or two, you know, you can't ban these guys. So they're going to have to play. Guess what they're going to play in the FedEx Cup and they're going to be playing for all the BJ Tours money. Who, would that be fucking anarchy out there? It just be, give me like a C-SPAN, like, show of like Monaghan and fucking Norman just on either sides. I mean, you're talking about the greatest. I mean, that's like watching like the OJ fucking trials. It's like it's going to be ridiculous. It's going to be must watch every single part of

those trials will be insane. I think the Lib Tour is going to win. I think they're going to win out. I just, does anybody not? Dude, I think the reason I think they have a better argument. Like, I think it's tough. The reason I think you're, you're probably right is because like the more I, more I read into this, dude, like this, the live and who's backing it, money, they have so much money, dude, that it's completely irrelevant. Like, completely irrelevant. It's just, it's not real. They have unlimited, truly unlimited funds.

And they're dealing with people, which is most people on earth, who will make a decision at the end of the day based upon money and how much money that you give them. So if they have unlimited money, they can pretty much get and do whatever they want. I mean, they're buildouts at these events. The fucking live thing at the Trump Bedminster, he was like a giant Trump rally. mixed with like a rager mixed with like a golf tournament it was fucking crazy the shit that i was watching it'd be crazy and they're doing that with zero revenue they have no revenue coming in i mean they got they're like giving away ticket they're paying people to to buy tickets it's

fucking crazy what they're doing and i don't see it stopped yeah i got a bunch of tweets i got a bunch of tweets from people in new jersey being like they like geotagged emails from people in new jersey and just giving out free tickets being like you're only 25 minutes away from the live golf event and like sent like tickets to the rave and tickets to like the after party and take just like just getting people in the door i mean the imagery that's coming out too it's like pat perez when he was on the private jet that was like honestly air force one it's like everything you see from live is just monstrap it's insanity so yeah and i also think like yeah why can't these players play on different tours like you can't like box them out i feel like that's just

Live is going to win that way. Maybe live if they want to do that that any four-man team can enter any live event. But like, I see this just like live winning and it's just being another tour. Yeah. You know, I think they've forced themselves in the equation that they're just

going to be around. I have a question for you guys. I don't know if you've ever like answered that. Is like, do you think that players are allowed to play on other tours? Aside from the morality part of it, like do you genuinely believe that like another tour is okay like the fact if you take away the fact that you think they're bad guys for doing this do you think their decision to go play on another tour is pretty like you accept of that yeah i mean it's it's i mean if someone goes and plays on the european tour i don't

care at all like to you no but so like the part of them actually wanting to go play on another tour is okay to you right like i mean regardless of everything else like they've been doing yeah they've been doing it forever yeah i mean i think the other side of it is like we've been doing this to other countries for forever. Like, you come to the NBA because you're going to get paid more here. You come to the NHL because you're going to get paid more here. You come to the NBA because you're going to get paid more here. You know, now somebody is literally just swept the rug out.

It's like, live golf. If you go over there, you're not only going to get paid more. You're going to get paid like 10x. And that's just right over there. And yeah, it's a very, it's really interesting. Obviously, I think what hurts them is there's no business model. So I don't know, you know, to quote Davis. love like Washington FDC if they say like hey you don't have any viable business model so this isn't

like ethical or whatever legal jargon you want to put behind it but yeah I I mean it's just another place to play if you're the best at what you do literally you get to go play anywhere if you're the best CEO in the world you can go play like you get to get paid by I don't know so I think they're going to win out and I think it's going to be a real like change like to you frankly like remember when like the live tournament like just won out yeah like I don't know how far like I I know nothing about the law and I and Washington but like I don't know how far morality goes in a courtroom you know like it's that's not how they I don't think that's how they do it it's more about like can these um you know individual contractors go and do whatever they want on whatever sort of

tour or whatever it may be I don't I don't know how far if morality even factors into a legal case. I guess my question would be if you're going to ruin another business, because like, they're going to just sideswarp the PGA tour and then it's like they're just looking around and now they're paying people, you know, they're paying like college, you know, just graduated players. Like it becomes more of a junior tour. So I don't know if it comes in more at all because if you're going to sid swipe and kind of ruin another business, does it come in more at all? It will be very interesting. It feels like a lawsuit is just underwere, way and is about to take place over the next couple months.

And so, yeah, it'll be definitely, it'll be like the OJ case in many ways where you're just like that thing's streaming 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I think it'll captivate everybody, just kind of like the Johnny Depp trials that just happened. Yeah. When the playoffs are in what, like next week? Yeah. Two weeks.

I mean, this is going to have to be decided very, very quickly. Yeah. Yeah, I think the lawsuit will start, but then it will just be, yeah, I think. Right. It's like when a baseball player gets suspended, you appeal the suspension and there's sort of that window. I'm guessing that's the window they're looking for. That's pretty much it. Okay. But how does it? I mean, we all don't know the answer probably. But what's the answer for like if this is like being argued and and they're and they're finding this window. But a guy from Liv is actively winning all the playoff events as they're like deliberating over this stuff. That's the, that's the, that's the window. Oh, the live is looking for the window. Yes. You're saying. Okay.

I thought you went like, okay. Yes. I was going to say like, because at some point like if the PJ tour was hoping to like do this after, it's like, well, one of the guys is going to win while you're doing this and then what are you going to take the money away from him? Right now the ban is in place and there has been no legal action taken.

But once you start an illegal process, while that's going on, there's that window where it's like you can't ban these guys because it's currently being contested. So they are looking for a ruling from a judge that will say, we're not upholding this ban legally right now while we go through this process and lives belief it seems like is that during that process

they're just going to play and the PJ tour is not legally going to be able to tell them they can't and if in a month or two months or six months whenever that gets solved it's ruled that they could uphold the ban too fucking late now is you got the live guy already ruined the entire FedEx Cup playoffs and so that's sort of

that's DJ ruined it that's sort of their hope I think at the end of the day that I agree kind of with Lurch. I think they're going to have to coexist. I don't know how that's going to ultimately play out. One thing that I have to talk about that I hope plays out is our Myrtle Beach trip, boys. I'm getting a lot of messages right now about Caledonia and about True Blue, these two courses that we're going to play at Myrtle Beach that are supposed to be fucking

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Toronto, day two of the Barstall Classic, we've got to get people to realize that we have two days of the Toronto Barstow Classic. The first day is sold out and there's like a wait list. Second day is wide open. So why don't you go there? They were playing at Eagles Nest, Golf Club. We're bringing the Barstall Classic to Canada. It's going to be an extremely fun time. We're having a party Thursday night. So I'm assuming it's what, Thursday and Friday both around. Is that the 25th and 26th? Yeah. So Thursday, the 25th is sold out. But then. the 26th Friday there's still spots available. We're coming to Toronto.

The whole, you know, the whole crew's coming. It's going to be electric. I cannot wait to get up north. I love the idea of going into Toronto right before hockey season. I'm going to fucking rummage it up with all you Maple Leaf fans and all of you, probably Detroit Red Wings fans. And it's going to be a fucking scene. I cannot wait.

Like late August is right when I start to get a little nuts when it comes to my hockey season. Guys are starting to report to camp soon. Oh, that's when it started there. Interesting. I didn't know there was a starting point. Oh. Well, I say I like to rev it up. You know, right now I'm like idling at like 45 miles an hour.

Yeah, no, I'm like, I just, I'm on. Really, because I feel like I'm on that jet that Kiz and Riggs took every time I talked to about hockey. That's right. Fuck. Speaking of hockey, I had a fucking hell of a day yesterday. I had a fucking hell of a day yesterday with a fucking speaking of hockey. I played the bridge yesterday. And I played with JJ Reddick, you know, friend of the program.

And then I also played with our superstar, number 13, Matt Barzell. It was hell of a time. And we played with JJ's friend John. It was just a hell of a time out there. This place is not real. It's a like you can't believe you're at it type of golf course. J.J. Redick has maybe the best setup I've ever seen on earth. At one point, me and Barzell looked at each other and we're just like, this guy has figured

out life. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing that he, that he has done wrong in life. If he's playing the bridge and he's, like, living out here and then, like, also go, it's just, like, everything about JJ Redding. And the way he plays that golf course is insane. He just uses a three wood and it's like pierces through the fucking wind. And he kind of does, like, the Scotty Sheffler, like, squeaky legs thing where it's like, whoa, did he slip? But then it's like a draw right down the middle.

It was me and Barsey versus JJ and his friend John. got the doors blown off us. It was embarrassing. I mean, we never even came close. We were playing for like a decent chunk of change too. So like at one point I'm like asking the caddy to slow down so I could look at my wallet to make sure I had like enough. I'm like, whoa, like this is getting away from me quickly. Like you know what I mean? Like I'm looking around over my shoulder being like this is getting bad fast. You also, if I were you like you down auto. You got to be looking at the contracts of the of the group of guys. Like you're pretty low on that totem pole too. Real low. So I'm looking around being like, holy shit. Like we're doing two down auto presses. I'm like we're down two through two. Like what's happening right now? And then like on the back we're down two again. Like what's happening right now? Turns out we ended up grinding in this match. We were down. I mean, we lost like five and four. But then on the back fucking Matt Barzell grinded his dick off to make a, he made like a par on 16, par on 17 or bogey on 17 that was like a.

It was like a 5-4 to win. And then on 18, he made an amazing birdie. So Barzie ended up making us some money back, which was huge. He ended up getting us to win the press and then we won the back. So all in all, it was a good day. That golf course at the bridge, it's an old racetrack. And like their logo is like all these like race cars. And like the Gulf sign, they changed it to golf.

And it's like all over the place. And it's very, very cool. There's like things like canisters of gas. gasoline everywhere, like next to T's just like sitting down next to a T. And then you have like the most pristine golf course you've ever seen in your entire life. It's the highest point on Long Island. So you're looking over the sound. You can see like all of Long Island from the top of this place.

It's the clubhouse looks like Tony Stark's layer. It's crazy. It's a crazy place. But yeah, I just had to share the experience. Very, very cool place. A once in a lifetime experience for me. J.D. Redix, the man. As we know, he was amazing on the show.

and he's just doing good things. Your hot streak didn't continue, Frankie? We didn't hit, the range wasn't open on Tuesdays. And when I found that out, I was distraught. Everyone here knows that I am a range player. I need to hit balls bad. I need to get the bad ones out like you've never seen before. I am completely different when I don't hit the range.

So took me a couple holes to get going. I ended up shooting like an 88 or 87 or something like that. It was a really hard golf course. You hit the middle of the green and it zips off back towards your foot from like 120 yards out. I mean, some of these pictures I put up, the undulations and these false fronts are just, it's not like so crazy that's not fun because like if you just hit it in the right spots, it's a lot of fun. But like sometimes you're like hitting a nine iron into a green from like 150 yards out.

You hit the middle of the green. And then like two minutes later as you're walking up, the catty's like, oh, fuck. It's like slowly trickling off and it comes all the way back down. around a bunker and now you have like a chip over a bunker like what just happened like in what world do you hit this perfect approach out to the middle of a green and now you have a 35 yard chip like what just happened there i mean the bridge is like it's a really hard golf yeah and it's like one of the nicest courses to even get on right i mean like isn't that the course that i'm thinking about that's elite elite elite like impossible to get on yeah i mean yeah we like tried that we

Barzie was trying to drive in with me and we try like someone's like where's your sticker and we're like what's like you needed like a sticker on your car just to drive down the road we're like we're just guess we have no idea where to go like I've never felt more like I'm sorry like it was we had to like show like the vaccination status and like it was just like this is like it's a boys club I think once you're there it's the greatest like hang ever the fucking clubhouse was insane and like I just think like they're just like we don't like it's the bridge you know what I mean that was the response was like it's it's the bridge like every time you ask someone like it's the bridge um but yeah I think it's like seven figures like to get in and stuff it's like the most

insane place it looks pretty sick I gas when I look when I saw your fucking Instagram so I was like he's at the bridge he's with JJ Redick right with burszel's like what the fuck is going on nice um all right that was my that was my first time being able to like spend time with barsel so I want to say that New York Islander fans we have an amazing, amazing person at the helm of this team. This guy is a fucking gamer, and we are going to be in a good spot this year. He is hungry. Like, the Islanders are hungry this year.

That's what I will say. They want a fucking, they want revenge on like a shitty season. Yeah, they had a horrible year last year. Yeah, but things happen. You know, they fucking like 14 games on the road and COVID and all that stuff. They feel good. They win a lot of games. All right.

So we've got. I suck last year. Another thing, Tiger Woods did. Rangers were confirmed by Greg Norman that Tiger Woods turned down a seven to $800 million offer. I think we already all knew that. But Greg Norman confirmed that I saw it kind of going viral on Twitter yesterday. And then Luke Donald was named the 2003 European Rider Cup captain.

I have to say, I mean, Zach Johnson was great on the show, but I don't know that you could have two more boring rider cup captains than fucking Zach Johnson against Luke Donald. I mean, I just, I don't know. I don't know that you can do it. The former number of the world. Masters champ on the other side, one of the old course. This is just, it's too bad to see where this is headed already. Luke Donald, huge stoolie, friend of Dave Portnoy.

We're happy to have him as the European Rider Cup captain. I think that's, I mean, we want to crush him, but I think that's going to be good for the brand, the fact that we have a diehard stool that is the captain of the Rider Cup team. It's one of those old shit moments that we've been... It is good to have Zach Johnson on the U.S. side. I agree. Hard-for stool.

infiltrated sport. Like, Barstle Sports has now infiltrated just all sport. Like the captain of the Ryder Cup team is like tweeting at Dave being like one bite. It's like crazy. Look, I agree.

I like having friends of the program. I think it's great for us. I think it's amazing. I just think that for the average golf sports fan, I don't know. There's not a ton of electricity between those two. All right. Well, if we're in that reality,

people like the Ryder Cup. It's not, you know, it's not dependent on like Steve, Steve Stricker wasn't lighting up. Not at all. The lamp either. Steve Stricker just did the W. He's like, what's going to? He's getting a little nasty though now that we put ZJ in a corner there. You know what?

Because I can feel it, and I said this on the last podcast, I can feel Luke Donald's stooliness starting to entice people on this podcast. And we, you just got to red, white and blue. Riggs is, Riggs is ready to roll the other side. He's ready to put those colors. on again, I feel like. You just, we got to stick with USA. I know you guys hate Zach Johnson, despite him being a master's champion, a winner at the old course.

You guys just despise him enough to maybe put on the other colors. It's like I just said the sky is green that I said fucking Luke Donald and Zach Johnson are boring. I mean, they're just fucking boring. I know. They're super boring. Come on. I mean, if Luke Donald's a big stool, he's obviously got a good sense of humor,

he knows he's not the most electric professional athlete in the world. I mean, comparable to all the people that, like, sell tickets and have cool sponsorships and, like, put asses in the seats. I don't think Luke Donald has lived his life thinking he was, like, a madman that was, like, drawing people to the first tea at tournaments. He's just fucking Luke Donald. He's just, he enjoys watching pizza reviews and watching four man scrambles, and that's it. Which I love. And I think that this opens up an opportunity. Nothing wrong with that.

Get Luke Donald on the fucking show. See what he's all about. I imagine he's great. I know he's into wine, right? And he has, like, his own wine company. I think he did that forever. Um, he's Chicago guy because he went to Northwestern. So I think he's a big Chicago guy.

So he's got kind of that thing going, which is unique. So not saying there's nothing to him. I'm sure we'll get him on the show. We'll learn a lot more about him. And yeah, I love that he's a story as well. But I think this one was pretty obvious. I think that like a week ago at leak that Luke Donald was going to be the guy. He's got, um, he's had some big time rider cup moments.

I saw a shot. They played. It was like the, the writer cup account or whatever tweeted out yesterday. He hit some fucking three wood from the rough over water to like eight, feet. It's just fucking got me all jacked up for rider cup in general. People going nuts. Feels like 10 years ago that there was the rider cup. I don't know about you guys. Like the we are at Whistling Straits walking around with those crowds. That feels like 40 lifetimes ago. I can't believe that actually happened. And I can't believe that a year from now basically is going to be a rider cup in Rome.

It's going to be like that's fucking nuts. That's going to happen in no time. It's amazing. So yeah, a little rider cup update. Bio light. I got to talk about biolite. If I weren't for biolite, I wouldn't have survived Monday. I'll just be honest. I wouldn't have survived. I would have just died. It would have been the end of me.

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I didn't drink enough water this morning. I didn't drink enough water last night. And then you see that biolite sitting there at the Barso Classic. You're like, yeah. It's such a relief of being like, I'm going to get what I need to get because it's got everything. in one bottle. That's how I feel at least. It's like, it's been such a, like, oh, thank God that we have violate because I have to

drink water for the next nine hours if I didn't. Nothing worse than waking up with a headache too. So like rip one the night before, make yourself feel better. When you step on the first tee and you're like, you want to play well and you just have that pounding headache, you know that you're just not only battling the golf course, but also battling just the worst headache of all time. And Riggs, I actually give you a shout out because, when we left the GWC and then I saw that you were at Oakmont, I was like, that guy,

that's a grind. That's a, that's my like grind right there. That's just about possible to do that. The biggest bender, that probably biggest bender in my life that was that. I mean, fucking Thursday night was at, well, fuck, started Wednesday night. I mean, because we did the tournaments in Western Massachusetts. It's like we talked about. And, and so I went back to Boston because I had like two days in between.

Boston lived there for 10 years, got a bunch of buddies. So went out with a couple buddies Wednesday night and Southie out till like one in the morning. Thursday played Granite Links, our old stopping grounds lurch where we used to play a ton. Loved seeing everybody 10 years later is doing the same fucking thing. You see the same guys in there drinking the same beers. Our boy Bob Hanley's got a course light in his hand. Timmy and Billy we played with. And then they want to go to the sly fox afterwards and have a couple of beers.

So we're out until one in the morning. And the next day we drive. We got this tournament starts. We started drinking it. 8.30 in the morning on Friday and drank all day at the golf weekend. Classic. Same exact thing. Saturday, all night Saturday.

Woke up Sunday. Two-hour fucking drive from Western Mass to Logan. Get on an airplane. Get there so late that my bags don't make it. Get to Oakmont. When I landed fucking Tommy Wyatt and Kiz and all the boys pick us up in a shuttle, they've got beers flowing already. So the second I land, they're like, this is their trip of the year.

They're all pumped up. So they got beers going. So then we start drinking, play Oakmont all day, actually played damn well, even though the only thing that fucking got out was that three put on 18 that cost us the match. And then we go to the casino. We're at the casino till two in the morning, get on a shuttle at 6 a.m., show up at the Barstool Classic. And at that point, I just had nothing. I had fucking nothing left. If it weren't for BioLight, I literally think I would be dead.

Thank God, Kiz and the Wyndham Championship hooked up that little fighter jet that we were basically on. and I got to the hotel on Monday night. And I had text messages from kids that went unresponded to that got in my phone before 8 a.m. So I passed out sometime in the 7 o'clock hour. I got over 11 hours of sleep. I think I got 11 hours and 16 minutes of sleep. Didn't wake up once and popped up yesterday.

I was like, okay, I'm a human again. But yeah, that was the biggest bender I think I've ever been on. That was almost like a watershed moment. I'm like, all right, we can't. I mean, this is not sustainable. I haven't been home in fucking two months. There's just a lot. There was a lot going on.

And then you're trying to hit golf shots and you're playing fucking terrible. So Monday was, again, an outlier for me. If it weren't for a biolite, I wouldn't have gotten through it. Nobody's crying for me. It's a pretty good life got to play Oakmont Sunday and shot 78 with rentals. So everything's fine. All right. From the gallery, brought you by Truly.

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A pool I got to think it's the polar bear. Six foot deep pool of water. If it was like a pond or a larger area, I would say shark. But in a small pool, I got to think it's the polar bear. How big is a great white? They can be huge. I'm picturing a great white like flopping around. Yeah, I'm picturing a great white like flopping around a six foot pool and a polar bear just like clawing it to

I think six feet. Yeah, gray white is simply, it's too big. Six feet, I think, is deep enough to swim, though. I think it's polar bear, no problem. I think, like, I think that top to bottom, it's not six feet. I'm looking at it right now. Gray white shark, female, 15 to 21 feet, male 11 to 13 feet. But I wonder how big are they top to bottom?

Like, would he just be like, when he just be lying there and he can't move? Or if he can whip around, we might have a little bit of a battle on our hands. That's a good question. What's their width? Yeah, if he's like four feet tall, I guess you would call it, then I think we got a shot. If he's fucking five, six feet tall, he's not going to have any, he can't, you know, he can't even whip around.

He's just going to be on the floor. And if he's a great white shark on the floor, doesn't do any of it. You could just pull a bear, just dust them. Wow, not a lot of, not a lot of great white width information on the internet so far that I'm seeing. A lot of length information, but not a lot of width. Yeah, like belly to like his spine. I wonder what that distance is. or that length is, I guess I would say.

It says, well, females, which appear to be bigger than the males, is six to eight feet away. Yeah, the shark came and moved then. It's like we put it in prison. It's like, do you mean? Exactly. That's why I'm saying the polar bear wins. I'm Googling now, like height and weight,

trying to get like those numbers down. Great whites are like substantially bigger. They're 4,000 to 5,000 pounds, roughly, polar bears are like 770 to 1,500. But when I typed in like weight of a great white shark, the other thing that popped up was a blue whale, those things weigh between 290,000 pounds and 330,000 pounds. That's the most absurd statistic I've ever heard in my life.

Lurgy, have you ever seen the blue whale at the museum in, uh, in, I think it's New York? No. Oh my God. it's fucking awesome It goes on forever Yeah it is It is fucking fantastic I'm gonna try to send you guys this picture right now

So you can look at it They have it's like the American Museum of Natural History In like uptown New York I think it is And this fucking whale they've got there Is It goes on forever Fucking hilarious

How big it is dude It's just this huge room that it's in and then I'm just going to text it to you guys right now. It's this huge room that it's in. And then there's just like human walking around in it. I'm texting it to you guys right now. The blue whale, I've been in this room before. It's like it is you can't.

Holy shit. You can't fucking believe it when you're in it. It's fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Like how does a living thing get that big? Right? Like how the fuck is that a real thing? Crush is like fish, you know?

They eat like, they eat like. That's a, that's a, it's like a, it's like a cruise ship. Right. They eat like entire. It's roughly 300,000 pounds. Right. Schools of fish. They eat entire schools of fish.

Like when you have one fucking little salmon for dinner and your stuff, dude, they eat in one gulp. They eat like 150 up. And they just do that all there. That's fucking crazy And that's like a snack Yeah Like did you see that video No I just like that's

That close up video That one that just jumped on that boat And like at the very beginning of it When all the fish come out first That's like they're just swimming around eating Like thousands of those all day long It's fucking unbelievable It looks like you're like average like

Maybe a little bit bigger size like whaler boat too you know, it doesn't look that big and the fish comes scurrying to the surface and then what's next? Just this monstrosity of a whale just pull him right on the side. That's a great video. I'm taking polar bear.

Yeah, me too. I'm taking polar bear. I think so too. I think a polar bear is fucking vicious. Yeah, I agree. So I'm looking. Just clawing at it can use its teeth just like a fucking shark can.

Like, it's fucking gonna crush that shark. Like people think about polar bears as a Coca-Cola commercial, but if you watch any nature documentary, you just see them covered in blood. Their skin is matted down, or their fur is matted down, and it's red,

because they're just terrorizing everybody. They are terrorizing, like, sea lions, though. I mean, a great white coming with a little bit of speed might be a tougher match for them. So, like, yeah, I'm trying to picture, like, how can that shark maneuver its way around? Can it just, like, grab at its ankle? like six feet of water is a lot actually right like like i'm trying to picture a polar bear standing up

in a six foot pool like he's not gonna have much yeah but he's not like he's on the ice where he can like fucking move around like he's got to swim around i actually think the shark might get him no i think we've given if we're doing it with the the size of the pool i think we've really put the shark at a disadvantage a little bit bigger pool and the shark is fucking that polar bear out yeah Yeah. I think that's right. You put it in like a lake size thing. What is the width of the shark again?

Six feet at like a minimum. So you really can't move. Right. So we like we've fucking, it's like a fish in a barrel for the polar bear. Right. That's all. It's not, it's nothing against the shark. It's just the shark gets too big.

Yeah. Eight foot pool. We're taking shark. I'm going shark. Because then the polar bear's doggy swimming and then it's just over. I mean, you're taking. Like, if you're, if you're causing the polar bear to doggie swim through an eight foot pool, the sharks, now it's just a bigger human that the shark's just going to go after and just, like, bite its legs.

You know what I mean? There's no, the polar bear can do nothing. If the shark knows he's in a fight, I think he wins for sure. But I also, like the shark, nothing ever comes after the Great White Shark. He's the, he's the cream of the crop. So it's like he's just, usually just swimming around with no, there's no predators coming after. So now if he's, he might be thrown off a little bit, but if he knows. What comes after a polar bear though?

Like nothing comes after a polar bear. No, I agree. But the shark is in like. Not in his world. But what I'm saying is like the shark, that's what I mean. He's kind of in the shark's world. So the shark is like if, if I guess if the shark is strategic about it, I think he will win. But I think he's so like, no, no, I'm not like the polar bear goes into water trying to kill shit frequently.

That's like swims around. the fucking shark doesn't like end up in a situation where there's something with feet that's trying to kill it. Like that's just never happened in his life. So he might be a little bit like what the fuck are we doing here and then it's over. You're saying the shark's a little cocky. He's a little complacent because he's the cock of the walk. That's exactly. He's going to be peacocking around there next thing.

You know, the polar bear's got him by the fucking gills and it's over. Whereas I think if he goes in like they rang the bell and he knows it's go time. I think he's got a pretty good chance. Whoever gets that first guy. have um first cuts winning that thing do sharks have cocks or no they must good question they have cocks

I don't know I don't know fuck I don't know I think they have to you right because like a whale's dick is a thing right dude I there's this room in Boston where you walk in and it's like a men's old club what you say and you get fucked by a shark no but a six foot whale cock hangs above the entryway

where that's the first thing you see going in this room is just the biggest, the biggest apparatus you've ever seen in your life. Now, does it have the form of a male penile? Does it have like a shaft with a mushroom tip? It's got, you know, it's got a piston like set up. So, you know, I didn't look at it for over it long. I didn't study it, but it's up there.

Oh, I would have been, I would have been touching it and pet it. No, it's like in kind of a case. You know what I mean? You can't let that thing just sit in the open air. That's going to... Here you go. Similar to a penis, clasper's are an external appendage found on male sharks, skates and rays that are designed to deliver sperm inside of a female.

However, they are dissimilar to a penis in that they are not an independent appendage. So it's like a... It actually says it's a rather... It's rather a deeply grooved word that I don't know how to pronounce, extension of the shark's pelvic fins. So it kind of has a dick. Yeah. Okay.

All right. It's like a fin, it's got like a fin dick. Is that kind of what we call that? Shark fin dick? It's like, and there's actually a picture of it. It's just like a, it's like a groove on the bottom of the shark. Send us, send us the picture in the group of that shark dick. I want to take a look.