Fore Play - The Noble Prize

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Trent’s on Weight Watchers. Frankie wants to be able to wear makeup. Riggs receives a text suggesting TaylorMade deserves a Noble Prize for the Stealth 2. Also — Are today’s golf stars too soft?... How does the LPGA Tour get bigger? Is the universe real? Does Frankie regret saying the WMPO is bigger than the PGA Championship? And more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guy's actually gave him a nickname of butter knives because he always knives to the cross the green.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Rock 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. We bring it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.
Starting point is 00:00:33 And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go, fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's a hobby. Foreplay, a barstool sports slash pen entertainment now. Are we contractual obligated to say that?
Starting point is 00:00:53 I don't think so. I just kind of came to the top of my head. Presented by Chevy, Chevrolet, the bow tie, the whole deal. for everyone everywhere. Yeah, we're now a, we're a Penn Entertainment product here at, at 4.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Which I will say, affects us, I believe, in the least degree of anyone on, you know, involved in this whole thing. It doesn't, I don't think it does anything to us at all.
Starting point is 00:01:16 My day to day is the same. I don't think it's really going to affect many people. I think everything's the same. Like, we didn't, it didn't really affect us in any way, I don't think, right?
Starting point is 00:01:24 I think my bank account belongs to a guy that I, that I just saw in New York City. Essentially, I went to park at this place and the guy was like, it's cash only. And I looked at him, I'm like, what year is it? Cash only fucking garage, like a major garage. I'm like, I'm pretty sure you didn't work for this place. You're just making me give you $40 right now. But he goes, go across the street to the ATM.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I was like, okay. So I just listened to him. I went to this fucking convenience store. I walked into the most, like, hidden convenience store of all time where no one goes in there for two straight days. I went in, put my card in, took money out, and then a guy right behind me walked in and used the ATM right after me.
Starting point is 00:02:06 100% stole all my identity and all my money, right? That happened to me in college. So what do I do right now? Well, what I did was... Do I just freeze my account in hopes that that guy doesn't get into it? Because, I mean, what are the odds that someone uses an ATM inside a bodega in the city? the place was empty.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Would you, if you, if you left anything in there, you're in trouble, but otherwise, you would know right away. So what happened to me in college was I went in and this was before they really had the ones that keep your card. This was like everything was just swipe and keep at the time. And this was like a newer ATM right in the center of like Harvard Square, which outside of college is even like a happening area. There's your shit going on, restaurants, a train stop, everything. And I went in and the thing keeps your card, which again was new at the time. And then I went through my whole business. I was in a rush.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I took out a couple hundred bucks wherever I needed at the time. And I just left. And then someone was hawking the ATM thing waiting for people to do that, got in there within like the 30 seconds or whatever it is that the thing will eat your card and went, do, do, do you. I'd like to do another transaction and took everything out of my account. And so, I mean, it wasn't much. I was in college.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It was like a few hundred dollars more or whatever the hell it was. But I went to look. like the next day at my account or whatever and it was at zero and I was like what the fuck that's not good and you ended up they get you get the money back and they go through and they look at the photos because ATM machines have photos and shit everywhere but i think it was like 30 seconds that it takes to eat your card if you don't take it out but in that 30 seconds someone could jump in there and there so somebody was like surveying me which is very creepy that's not good i've been very lucky i've never had really anything you know knock on wood i've
Starting point is 00:03:57 had anything like that happened to me but it sounds like it could be happening to frankie and it has happened to rigs i would say there's a good amount of uh i'm so uh hands off with my accounts in finance that people could be stealing stuff to like a pretty a smallish degree and i wouldn't know yeah i yeah because i don't track yeah i don't track yeah i don't track every every single transaction that goes on in my account. I just assume that I'm the only one using it, but that could be incorrect. It's usually a sign of success that you're not tracking every single cent.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I think so. But I don't know. I mean, as you grow older, like I feel like you, I don't know, if you get more successful, you're just not worrying about every single dollar as opposed to like when I was
Starting point is 00:04:40 younger. It was like, man, like if there's not money in there, then there's not like paying your car. You're not paying for gas. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Like there's little things that happen in college years where you're like every dollar count. counts. Definitely college years. But even like when we were living in like when I was living in Manhattan, the first couple of years at Barstow making basically nothing, I still was just bad about it. As long as I'm horrible at it could pay rent and like still eat out every meal and like that was pretty much it. You're breaking even. You're living paycheck to paycheck. But now at this point, yeah, I mean, people could get away. It was taking a good amount for me and I probably wouldn't know. Or at least it would take me a while to be like, wait a second. Something's going on here.
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Starting point is 00:05:56 It feels like a family now whenever I see a somebody out there driving a Chevy. I'm like, that's, you're just, you're doing it right. We're all doing it right. If you're not driving a Chevy, if you're not driving a Chevy EV, you're just making a big mistake and you're not a part of this family. They won the Daytona 500. They're the greatest in the world. Top of the, top of the planet right now when it comes to car manufacturers, the bow tie. It's as American as the dollar bill.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You know what I mean? From bull to blazer. Yeah, American Apple Potts. I tried to think of an American thing. Bolt to blazer. The first thing came to my mind. The eagle. Eagle.
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Starting point is 00:06:51 My debit card is about to expire and that's something I just don't want to deal with at all. That sucks. I talked about in the podcast like a month ago about how it's it's the sign of being an adult that you can keep a debit card until expiration because in the past I would leave debit cards at every bar across whatever city that I was living in. But now that I've, you know, calmed down to a degree, I have this debit card that I've had for however many years you're allowed to have one.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's going to expire and it's connected to every single part of my life. every part of my life has this debit card connected to it. So, you know, when this expires and I got to get a new one, I'm going to have to switch all that around. First world problems for sure, but it's certainly still a problem for me. Dude, it sucks when you go into an app or a website or something that doesn't have the auto fill thing for whatever reason. And you just got to go through and type in every number. You got to look at it seven times. You realize how bad your memory is because you look at it.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You're like, you know what? I'm going to remember six of the numbers this time. And you only remember like three of them and you're going to plug the whole thing in. I will say, remember when I couldn't get into the Delta Sky Club a couple months ago? Yeah. Well, because of that, I looked it up and you could get in if you just have the platinum card and I had the gold card like a like a like a poor basically. I just had the gold card, which I thought was just normal.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I didn't realize it was a nothing card. So I got the platinum card. I didn't realize how legitimate this platinum card is from a physical standpoint. It's got weight to it. Oh, sure. I feel. I mean, it's like a $250 fee a year to have one. So it's not like you got to be, you know, Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:08:24 But I feel legit when I hand this thing to people, and when you put it in the machine, and I will say, too, I've noticed the efficiency of the tap with it is, for whatever reason, my older cards, the tap was a little bit loosey-goosey. You had to, like, you know, find the sweet spot and tap and register. This thing I get within like a foot of it, and the thing just registers it and it pops up. So the platinum AMX card is fucking fantastic. Well, that's the other problem with having a debit card for so long. This thing is, I mean, in human terms, it doesn't have legs.
Starting point is 00:08:53 it has one eye. It can't, it has its balding. Like it's been through so much. Yeah, like I would say 60% of the time when I insert the chip, it says chip malfunction. And I got to do it again and again and again. So it'll be nice when I get a new debit card to, you know, everything will work properly. But yeah, I got to get rid of this thing soon. I saw you just take a sip of water, Trent.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Are you actively trying to drink more water in your life? I'm pretty good about drinking water. I drink a lot of water per day. Regardless of my diet situation, I could be. I'm actually on a good, good run right now. I've been working out every day and eating a little bit better. But even when I'm not doing that, I drink a ton of water. Well, this came across my desk that the drink eight glasses of water a day.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Advice came from a random 1945 recommendation that had absolutely no medical basis. We've just accepted it as a culture. And that like medically your body shouldn't know exactly when it's thirsty. your body's really good at judging if you need more water or not. There's no basis of like you need to drink eight a day or a certain amount of ounces because it's not taking into account all the food you eat, like the fruits that you have that have a lot of water in them. So I thought that was interesting that we've just accepted this rule.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like I mean, I've heard that a million times in my life. You got to drink eight, eight glasses of water a day, which is you just never really questioned it. You're like, oh man, if I'm not drinking eight, I'm going to die. I drink way more than that. I drink a lot of water. like I get what you're saying but also water is a thing that you can't drink too much of I don't think it's not I think that's a lie but I mean you you got to get it out of your bladder at a certain point but in terms of taking the water in and removing it I do I remember someone using I think that was on MythBusters where they're like like they tried to myth that like too much of anything is a bad thing and someone asked about water and I think they they said like you can literally like drown out your insides if you drink too much water well I remember there was a couple years ago there was a contest to win a wee this went this went viral like 10 years ago a woman they
Starting point is 00:10:54 were like you got to drink a certain amount of water and hold it in and you got to keep drinking water and she ended up dying and it was a really big deal just to yeah oh yeah just to win a nintendo we and it was like well that's you can't be doing that but if she would have just pissed she would have been fine i don't know the details of it i remember reading a couple headlines about it but i do think if you drink so much and you try to hold it in i don't know what happens to your insides but it's not a good thing. Not a good thing. You just drown, I guess. I guess. Dude, think about what it feels like when you hold in piss for like an extra 20 minutes. Imagine taking that to the limit to death. Like what that your insides probably just collapsed. It's interesting that we're talking about
Starting point is 00:11:35 this because I have, I'm now using an app where it's tracking everything that I eat, no free ad, so I'm not going to give them a shout out. But that also tracks the water. Weight watchers. What? Weight watchers. It is weight watchers. No way, dude. Yeah. All right. I knew you and my mom should become friends on there. All right. So I knew that was coming. But how many points was your breakfast this morning? Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So I'm taking this in now. I'm taking the criticism. I knew it was going to come if the app name came out. But our guy Chuck, social media Chuck in the New York office who is great, who is, you know, he's a large Midwestern man like I am.
Starting point is 00:12:06 We go back and forth a lot about like, we're just fat. How do we figure this thing out? And we've, you know, we've gone over a million diets and he uses the Weight Watchers app. And I get that, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:16 the perception that Frankie has is for a 40, year old suburban mother, I understand. But it's great. It has everything based on a point system, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it also tracks the amount of water you're taking in. And I've been taking in a lot of water every single day. I have a question on that. I haven't seen Chuck in a long time, not around. Is he significantly or noticeably to the naked eye skinnier than he's been? He's like me where we wear it so well that people really can't tell like when it's going really poorly or when it's going really well. So I wouldn't say he if you saw him, you wouldn't be like, wow, Chuck is way skinnier,
Starting point is 00:12:52 but you also wouldn't be like, look at Chuck that fat ass. I find it interesting that you'd be like, what are you using? I got to use that. You know, like I feel like maybe you'd ask like, like, like Robbie Fox. Like what app are you using? Yeah, but Robbie Fox doesn't like water. I don't think. No, but you got to go to the people who are like you.
Starting point is 00:13:07 No offense to Chuck. It's like, what does Robbie Fox drink all the time? He has like, he has piles of it. Oh, yeah. That's he's obsessed with that. I think that's, I think. that's how he gets his water. He drinks Arizona iced tea. But I like the thing that Chuck and I have talked a lot about is you can't, it's got to be a slow burn with the diet because when I just cut
Starting point is 00:13:26 out carbs and I try to cut out sugar, then I end up eating more carbs and more sugar than eight people combined should be eating. So if I slowly do it like with the Weight Watchers app, again, this sounds like a commercial now. And if they want to advertise with us, please knock on my door. But this way I can eat whatever I want, but everything has a point system. So I can eat a cheeseburger. it's just more points. And you have a certain amount of points per day, blah, blah, blah. If you work out, they give you more points, blah, blah, blah. It's working for me.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I will say it's day three. So, you know, it's still the honeymoon phase. I'm just saying, I think it's a great app. There's no denying that. It's just the perception of it and like the, the, well, if they want to change that perception and they don't want, you know, people like Frankie walking around being like, oh, it's for, it's for moms. I'm using it.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I just picture like Italian mothers in like workout gear, like walking into a weight watchers and feeling like they're making big changes in their life. Meanwhile, they're just like paying a subscription that they don't even know what the hell they're doing. That's cynical. Sorry. But the point system works. I mean, we all, everyone says that the biggest thing is diet
Starting point is 00:14:28 when you're trying to lose weight. Like, you know, we work out all the time. And then we don't actually work out of the time. We walk a lot. We're walking on the golf course. We're very active human beings. We're very active. And you're like, why the fuck do I still have a fat face?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Why did my face go viral last night in the barstool universe of, like how fat it was. I feel like I'm moving. I'm shaking. I'm doing a lot of things. Choker wasn't doing any favors. I think it was sort of. Dude, this fucking,
Starting point is 00:14:52 we're doing this commercial, bro. And at the end, I said, is this whole thing, I think it's like a seven figure deal for like, I don't know what it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:59 it's a massive commercial. I'm talking like a movie commercial. Movie sets on New York City, renting out buildings, venues. And I said at the end, I said, was this whole thing just to make me look bad?
Starting point is 00:15:10 I mean, there was like seven people in the commercial. I'm pretty sure the whole thing was designed. Everyone. else. We're doing this rock and roll thing. Everyone else looked like a fucking rock star. They had them in leather jackets and t-shirts underneath so you don't have to see anything nasty. And they had glasses on. They put fucking eye mascara and eyeliner on me. They stuck me in front of a white light. They had my tits out, my belly button. You have to see this picture. We took a thousand pictures.
Starting point is 00:15:36 They picked one where I'm leaning over the camera where my belly's in front of it and there's a huge gaping hole of a belly button. And then they put a choker on me that the girl literally had to do. She had to go to get it on. So I'm like, I was like like legitimately fucking choking. The spined at one point wouldn't allow any of your features to like spread out. It's just kind of clogged it all in one. Yeah. It was something about the framing of your face.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Like normally you're just wearing a hat and a hoodie and it frames it in a way that, you know, you can see definitive features. But when you put on. I don't look like that right now. No, you look fine right now. But when you put on a wig and a choker and mascara. it just frames you in a way that your face looks huge. It was like I felt like everything below the choker was very skinny and normally framed.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And it just took everything and like sucked it up to the top. It wouldn't allow it to go. You don't know what we're talking about. It's on my Twitter. I put it up. I obviously knew it everywhere I could. I put it out of picture. I was putting it up all over my town.
Starting point is 00:16:33 People were messaging me being like, bro, like this is so embarrassing. Like, first of all, I posted it. Like I obviously knew what I looked like. We were releasing our new collection of shirts. Riggs is wearing one right now. if you're watching on the YouTube version. It's an incredible collection. It's definitely different.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's like cool old school logo, very like Brooklyn-esque type of like golf gear. But it's selling our Danny rap line. But people are buying it. So it's like it's obviously it's in the mix right now. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to try and make a pop. I mean, I look outrageous right now during this commercial. I might as well just take a video as if I'm not wearing anything. And people are like, dude, how'd you let this out there?
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's like, what the fuck you're talking about? That's like our, that's, that's like our job. Like, we've put out so many videos and so many pictures of us looking like shit. Like, we could easily not put those out there, but it's way funnier when we do put them out there. It's way more fun. Yeah, that's the job. That's absolutely the job. Like you said, you, I mean, Frankie, the fact you put out your first new merch line promo and didn't even mention what you were wearing or what you looked like was.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah, I was like, is you going to say anything? And then the fact you didn't. So you lean right into it. It's all you could do. And I got a good chuckle out of me. Speaking of it. Make yourselves look like idiots. We have a new YouTube video that I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I'm 99% sure we're getting shadow band on YouTube. I think we have to have a full-blown meeting with like YouTube reps, our team. I don't know if we're posting too many podcast things on there. We're like posting multiple videos on top of each other. But not enough people saw this Tommy Fleetwood video of him pie and people in the face. I mean, I got a couple messages being like I've never seen a professional athlete that happy and like into the thing that he's doing being able to pie people who got. hit who didn't get hit i won't give it away because not enough people have watched it yet i don't even think you can spoil it you got to go watch it it's on youtube i think for the next few ones by the way
Starting point is 00:18:21 i think we're just going to tag them on the end of their or the other taylor may video so that's all just one video i'm looking at alex right now he's shaking his head yes um just because it was like a five minute video i don't think that works well on youtube anyway just go watch it i'm telling you it's really good it's really funny the edit too whoever fucking edited that thing with the light and oh with the ball coming the ball coming out it was unbelievable really i don't know who's did that. That was nuts. But go watch it. That's a plug. But we look like idiots. That's why it all kind of.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much like Trent Bukakkied me. It did look like that. Bukakakied. It's a great term. Yeah. That's a really good term. All right. A couple things to run through here. The Rory episode. So I finally finished full swing and the Rory episode, which I thought was
Starting point is 00:19:09 probably the one that was most similar to what I think the average golf fan was hoping they would all be, which, you know, it was kind of, obviously it featured a lot of Roy McRoy, but it kind of brought everything full circle and the crowds coming up the 72nd hole of the Open Championship. And then they mirrored that a few minutes later with the crowds coming up in 2018 of the Tour Championship with Tiger Woods and the fact that Rory was there and lost the Tiger that day, but now he's there and he's winning and he beat Scottie Shepford.
Starting point is 00:19:42 and afterwards him sitting in the locker room and going through his phone and being like, Tiger's always first and talking about how Tiger basically texts him, you know, some sort of congratulary, congratulatory text while his putt, like is dropping on the last hole. All that stuff I thought was unbelievably cool and getting behind the scenes, that behind the scenes of a guy like Rory who is the guy. He's the Lewis Hamilton of this series. And having him up there, you know, on the massage table, like they you know he makes the little like fuck you fill line he's like i hope that makes it in and obviously
Starting point is 00:20:17 it makes it in all that stuff him talking about how the players are too soft because he had they kind of it's so weird to go back in time but when they announced the whole deal about their four more elevated events that basically all the guys are going to be essentially required to play in and that he's like yeah a lot of the guys are bitching about it because they're bitching it they now are forced to play at a certain amount of times and then rory having like a private convo at lunch with one of his guys being like, we're all just so fucking soft these days. Like we're the only sport in the professional sport in the world where we just get to pick and choose where we play every other sport.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They just have to play when they have to play, which is so true. Obviously, any team sport, tennis, it's like maybe the closest one to where you get to choose. But even then, it's pretty much predetermined Formula One. It's like, these are the Grand Prix. You have to, you have to race in these. That's when it is. And golfers being like, well, I want to play here and not there. And him kind of being like, we're just too fucking soft.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So all that, I thought it was really, really good. And that's kind of my last commentary since I watched it last night on full swing. It's a great call when he said that. I meant to put that in my notes when I finished it because it's like so eye-opening when you think about we've been fighting for two years about what golfers deserve. And I think I may have mentioned this in like the heat of everything. But like at what point did we accept, at what point don't we just accept that like golfers get what they get? Like, NHL players don't get to be like, we play on the biggest. stage in the NHL and like we make our best player makes 11 million dollars meanwhile Mike Trout and all
Starting point is 00:21:46 these guys make like 40 million dollars in MLB like they don't like try and come up with like a new league and all this stuff they just like accept that like that's where they're at how come golfers like got to the point where it's like the money we're making's not enough and like they're just like we've we've all like argued on behalf of like sometimes on behalf of them sometimes like arguing against them like why has that become like the norm to be able to be like yeah I mean look other leagues have gone on strikes because of this and the players associations, you know, like fight on those players behalf. But it is, it is true.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like I also don't think it's crazy to generalize a little bit that golfers, many coming from like country club type backgrounds are going to be softer than like, you know, NBA players, NFL players, hockey players. I mean, the strike is a good point. I wasn't thinking of that. For sure. But it doesn't. They don't get the same, like they do demand more money and more percentage of the revenue instead of it going to the owners, going to, you know, the players.
Starting point is 00:22:49 That's a great part. I mean, the baseball, they played like half a season three years ago, whatever it was. I mean, they literally stopped playing baseball. They did. But again, it's like a, it's a, it is a, a sport altering issue when it does occur. And they, they still, like if a, if a player is suspected of choosing to sit out and they always list it as like an injury or. something. But if it's suspected that they're choosing to sit out because they just don't want to play for a little bit or they just want to rest, I mean, they get roasted for that, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:17 and people that bought tickets, right, that if, if the Lakers are coming to Phoenix and you buy a ticket and LeBron doesn't play, like, people are rattled about that. Whereas if you buy tickets on the Honda Classic and, like, nobody plays, you know, you don't get to like bitch at the players. It's like, of course they're not playing. They look at the schedule and this is when they choose to play. So it is different in that regard. It was, it was just so. so cool because we, I don't know, we don't really think about it that way. We have kind of had the whole stance because we've heard about Liv and the Thor for the last year of like, yeah, this is their general, you know, their independent contractors. They get to choose when they, you know, want to play.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Of course they do. And it's Rory's point was kind of like, why? Like that's a little ridiculous. Like, sure, you could choose a few different events. But for the most part, like, this is the tour should be able to be like, hey, we're doing X, Y, and Z for you. we're putting average $20 million purse on these designated events. The most we asked from you is like, this is going to be your schedule.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Here's when we need you to play. I don't think that's that fucking hard. And it turns out to be what, 15 events of the whole year, which is 15 weeks, which comparatively to other leagues is pretty fucking minimal for how much, you know, yes,
Starting point is 00:24:32 they're on the road a lot. I get all of that. They don't really have home games half the time. But they're like, that 15 weeks that they're asking you to lock in that you're going to play is not a crazy number of weeks throughout the whole year. And if you play well, you're going to make a shit ton of money. Like a shit ton. The percentages went up.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Everything went up. So if you play in these events and you win or you, you know, get top five, you're going to make way, way, way more money. And the biggest argument I do think that like the live guys have that they should harp on more is the guaranteed aspect of it, the guaranteed money, right? because any other sport, for the most part, it's guaranteed. Like you can get injured and knock yourself out of the league and in certain leagues, you're screwed. But for the most part, like, it doesn't matter if you win or lose. It doesn't matter if you have zero goals or if you have 50.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Your salary is your salary. You'll make a little bit more based on incentive bonuses for sure in some contracts are structured differently. But it's locked in. You're going to make X amount. If, if, you know, Roy McElroy goes out there and misses 20 straight cuts, now they've got the minimum 500 grand thing. that they didn't have before, and he'll make his endorsement dollars, sure.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But if you look at somebody's number 100 in the world that doesn't have those endorsement dollars at all, like they're going to lose money over those, you know, over that amount of time. Now, again, the 500 grand thing is new and it's basically a stipend and they get to recoup that money. So maybe they won't necessarily lose money, but they'll make nothing. They'll make fucking nothing. Alistair Dockery is going through it now. Yeah, he's on the AAA team and he's not in the major leagues. But it's same deal.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It's like, you got to earn your keep. And the biggest argument I think the live guys could make that would resonate with me would be like the guaranteed money thing is a game changer for me. It just locks it up and it doesn't put all the stress on it. And if you play in the MLB or the NHL or the NFL or the NBA or even in the Premier League or whatever, you're guaranteed X amount of money. And then if you go out there and you play extremely well, then when your contract's up in five years, you might get a bigger contract. But for the five year deal, your money's fucking locked up. And they don't have that on the PGA tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You know. Yeah. It's never ending. It's a never ending conversation, which is why it's the most interesting thing in sports. It really is. It is. It's just like every day I flip flop on like what's a good idea, what's not. It feels so just abnormal that it's still a real thing.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But so I try like after watching something like full swing, I try and just like make live feel like the dumbest thing on earth in my head. And then when we have a discussion about on this podcast, like there are, there's a reason why it is what it is because and there's a reason why it's gotten as far as it has gotten because there are there are good arguments on both sides somehow some way no matter how many times i'll watch that documentary no matter how many times i'll watch the waste management there's still like a reason why some guys want to leave and like you can see why well and a big narrative driver when it was all happening was phil being like you guys are hiding money from us like there's money to be had
Starting point is 00:27:24 there's money to be paid to the players and that ended up being true like that's like that's that was a huge part of it that's where like they started putting all these money in all these events and It's like Phil was right in that regard. Part of me watching full swing, I didn't like the swagger Monaghan had, like, when he would go up there to like the top of the, like, he had, like, Phil gave him a card to be able to play at the table. Meanwhile, this guy was like kind of a hated figure, like at the top of the PGA tour. He definitely did not like Barcelona Sports or maybe his like team just didn't. Like we weren't ever credential to anything. We always felt like they were the bad, like we were the bad guys around them.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So like we used to hate the PGA tour. And now of a sudden, this guy's walking. with this like the way he announced Rory where he's like a man of leadership like he had such a smirk to him where he's like we're winning now I just didn't I I kind of hated that that like he was handed a victory meanwhile he didn't really earn it he didn't really earn a victory he's kind of been having his back against the wall having to make changes that live me see I keep flipping back and forth I don't know where I stand on this fucking that's all right that's that's healthy that's like not being completely on one side is fun didn't you guys feel the same way like
Starting point is 00:28:29 the swagger he had walking up to those podiums at the players championship it was like come on, dude. Last year, people were bowing you. He's a little over polished, I feel like. Yeah. You know, like he's a little bit like, I'm going to say it perfectly. I'm going to deliver it perfectly. My hair is going to always look identical.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I'm going to have pretty much the same suit on. Like he's a little too polished, of my opinion. He's opposite of Dave Portnoy. Yeah. You don't even know who he is. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like I, the way he presents himself, I agree with that. It's almost like there's, there's almost like we talk about full swing and how. and we talk about the John Rahm interview we did and certain things that we really like that are as candid and raw as they are like I don't think I've ever seen Jay Monaghan like raw he's just she come on the show prepared and polished you know right I wonder I wonder he should come on the show I agree that would help and like can you get to his position and not be like that can you be unpolished all the top of golf I know maybe not yeah it's yeah and then you're all right yeah it's yeah and then you're all But the other side, Greg Norman is the least polished guy. And he's there for a, it's a myriad of different reasons. You guys like Seth Waugh that's in the charge of PGA of America. And he's like the most real guy of all time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Like came on our show was like he looked like a golden brown cookie. And he was like just coming from Florida. And he was like shooting the shit saying his kids love bars. So he watches our stuff like that. That's a guy that like had to make massive decisions this year regarding live and players playing in his championship. And shit. I also do want to apologize to. the PGA of America.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I go back on what I said. There's no way the waste management, there's no way the waste management is ahead of the fucking PGA championship. Did the PGA of America like threaten you? No, it's just after watching finishing full swing. I meant to put this in my notes the other day. After finishing full swing and watching people like weep after winning the PGA
Starting point is 00:30:24 championship and just the whole deal of like, you know, JT winning and the whole like watching him do it, there's no way anything's above a major. I don't care what it is. There's no way. This is just a show. This is just a show based on whatever the most recent piece of content we consumed is what we believe through and through. I think that's how life works.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. I mean, obviously you have your life. I have my pillars of beliefs, but like there's there's things that sway me. Like I'm definitely easily swayed. And it's got to be infuriating for the listeners where I always have different opinions on things. But that's how I've always been. I've always been like that.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I could vote one party and vote the next party and the next election. I'm always different. I'm the best person to ever go to like a presidential election because I'll just whatever you say to me, I'm sway in both ways. If you say something that's really convincing, I'm like, oh my God, they really are. Dude, they really are. I'm constantly changing my shit. I'm constantly changing my shit.
Starting point is 00:31:18 How many IRS agents? I don't know who I. I don't even know what I. Yeah, I swear to God, I could change in the drop of a hat. All right, but that PGA championship response made me feel like Seth Wa has Mr. Borelli in a basement. He didn't. He didn't. I just happened to bring those two things up back to back. I promise you. I haven't talked to him. I just, I remember saying it and I was getting caught up in the crowds. We had just gone to the waste management. There's no fucking way the waste management is more important than the PGA championship. There's no way. Watching Mito Pereira like crumble and all that stuff, it just wasn't the same as Sahith crumbling at the waste management. It just wasn't the same. It like ruined me. It sent Pino to live. Like he could never play golf on the PGA tour again. It literally, he didn't want to come back in public again.
Starting point is 00:32:03 He, like, blew the major with that ridiculous swing on 18. What was he doing? What was he doing on that swing? The sound bite that they got of him on the T-box after he did that, that was worth every single thing that full swing was trying to do. Every episode, every minute, every hour, however much the cameras cost, however much the labor cost, catching that was as good as you can get. And Wach, and Neiman on the side was looking at him with his, like, wife there.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And they're like, oh, was that for par? he's like, no, it's for double. It's over. It's like, oh my God. That was brutal. Yeah, I agree that. That clip on 18 of him and the hit, like, I didn't realize too. Like they really, maybe they edit it right, but them capturing how much he was just reeling in real time. Like he just wasn't taking his time. He just, he just, like, it just melted away from him. And it almost like by the time he walked up and saw his wife, he was like, what the, what just happened? Like, it's over? It's over really bad for him. Oh, that was tough. Game time. I use game time. A few.
Starting point is 00:33:06 weeks ago, I guess, and went to fraud. week. You are. I'm using game time this week. I'm going to the Nas concert at MSG on Friday. Wow. How great is that? Me and Noah,
Starting point is 00:33:19 producer of chicks in the office, are going to Madison Square Garden on Friday. He's doing, Nas is doing one night. And Noah is a huge Noss fan. I love Naz. He hit me up. He's like, do you want to go?
Starting point is 00:33:29 I was like, yeah. And it was like, game time, game time, hit mess with tickets. The seats are incredible. I am legit giddy to go see. Knaz at Massisburg. Wow, that's incredible. They hooked us up big time. Thank you, game time. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Dude, they got concerts. They got games, actual games. I went to Cameron Indoor, Duke, you and see a few weeks ago with my brother, a couple of our
Starting point is 00:33:50 good friends, Tom Pashley was there, probably the single greatest sporting event that I've really been to. The Masters is up there. Feeding's open is up there. This is right there. It's so different than the others. It's hard to explain, but be able to go there. Game time help me out. It's almost impossible to get a ticket to that thing. Game time hooked it up. They cracked the code at how to score deals on last minute tickets. Purchase process takes just two taps and 10 seconds. Once you buy your tickets, they're delivered directly to your phone.
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Starting point is 00:34:43 You know, tickets are a very valuable thing. They came into the GameTime app for me. I hit like one button, transferred them right away to my brother's wife, Maggie. And they went to the show and had a great time. So Game Time's just phenomenal for all that stuff. Download the GameTime app. Go to the website,
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Starting point is 00:35:20 It felt like they caught the perfect things from the crowd where they're like, Big a shot of your life, Meadow, like right before he hit the 18th drive. If you go back and listen and you watch full swing, there's a couple moments like, oh, Matt Fitzpatrick. That's a tough bunker shot boy.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Like to fucking Matt Fitzpatrick. There's no way. Someone said that to him in real life. There's no way. I mean, we've been to a million events. Are they really saying that to his face? Do you think they went back and just like recorded it like in a park and it was like,
Starting point is 00:35:47 I don't know that they recorded it. I think they captured them, but I don't know that they like I do not in any way. I believe that the second that they captured it on video that they put it out there is the same time that it was set. Like that could have been said two days earlier. Like they just like I don't, but I do think it was captured. I'd be crazy if they were like it's it's we're going to.
Starting point is 00:36:10 We're making this a fiction. Like this is a fictional thing now. Like that would be a little crazy. I will say The Bachelor does that all the time. They do it all the time. They just take little clips and then like they'll force it into a place where it makes everything sound crazier. But it's, I think they call them like zombie bites or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They bring them back to life and they put them in a place where it makes it easily see it. Just like the way like we edit videos, you have all this audio. You can put them on different in different spots to like just fit them into a hole. Like we'll have something that like I say in the golf carpet, a camera wasn't captured on it. but you can hear me because it goes through the audio and they'll just put it wherever they have to put it just to stick it into the episode.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I could totally see them doing that to try and make it seem like Matt Fitzpatrick heard right before he made contact with the ball. That's a tough bunker shot right there, Maddie. It's like, holy shit. Big a shot of your life. No way. And the only reason, like,
Starting point is 00:36:58 I think they could have been doing that in the drive to survive, but we're not like as aware of that world as we are the golf world. Like I agree that I don't think some guy would yell that at Maddie Fitz when he's about to try and win the U.S. Open. That seems insane. That would be nuts.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The balls on that guy would be insane. All of the journalists inside the ropes would have tweeted that out. It would have been like, you won't believe what this guy just said to Maddie Fitz on the 70 second hole at the country club in Brookline. I mean, we did it with the John Rahm interview. Like, we did, like, they overlaid my intro of him with him like sitting down. And to make it look like, and he was like, as he was sitting down, he was like smirking at certain stuff that they made it sound like I was.
Starting point is 00:37:39 saying that in real time. It's just, that just wasn't the exact time. He sat down minutes before I even started. To make it more dramatic. So, right. We did it.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It was, that's the business. So yeah, I, I just doubt that they would have made it up and been like, yeah. All right. I was picturing them being like a guy number two.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah. I was thinking that. I was thinking that. But like when Vinnie Chase goes into do I'm Queens Boulevard, they had a guy sitting there being like, Big a shot of your life, Maddie. That bunker looks tough.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It's like, no, try your inflection a little bit different. Never know what happens in L.A. man you just never know what pretzels are making me thirsty and they just right he just keeps going all we know chad well enough i guess we could ask him he would tell us yeah yeah i want to know when they captured that audio um i got a uh a quick stealth too comment real quick text last night from captain connor um he texts me this and a reason i brought this up is because my brother uh just got a
Starting point is 00:38:38 stealth two delivered today and he's all jacked up because we got the dad by classic next week. So I was just stealth too was on my mind. But Captain Connor texts me yesterday. He goes, curious on your thoughts. I hit my stealth two yesterday for the first time. It felt significantly better than the original stealth. Is that possible that one year to the next it's that much better? Curious how you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:38:59 And that's a good question because I think we all kind of think that. Like how good the technology be so much better for one year or the next? I go, I agree. Trent agrees as well. their claim, this is Taylor Made's claim that I'm referencing, is that the new one is more forgiving than the OG stealth. They're both really hot, carbon, all that, but this one is supposed to be more forgiving.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And he goes, dude, the first shot I hit immediately felt different. I used to be a travesty off the tea, me too. This club fixed me. However they did it, it deserves a Nobel Prize. A Nobel Prize. So a roaring review from Captain Connor of the stealth two that I took note of and figured that I had to put this in. What a difference between getting a noble prize and a Nobel Prize?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Just putting the emphasis on the B and the E. What is it? It's also spelled differently. Oh, right? Yeah, N-O-B-L-E would be noble. A noble prize would just be, we've determined that you acted in a noble way, so we're giving you a prize. Are they spelled the same way? Spelled differently.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Nobel is the L and E reversed. Okay. All right, because I was going to say, what, What a fucking difference in just the way you say something. Right. When you feel like a letter in the mail like, is this, did I win the greatest achievement of my life? Or is someone just, you know, when I, when I carried that dog up three flights of stairs the other day, are they giving me a prize a noble prize for that? The Nobel Prize are five separate prizes that according to Alfred Nobel's will of 1895 are awarded to, quote, those who during the preceding year have conferred the greatest benefit to humankind, unquote.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Holy shit What are the categories Do you have the categories In front of you? And by the way, I agree with you. Yes, Taylor Made Stealth 2 is an incredible golf club. I am obsessed with the
Starting point is 00:40:46 Taylor Made Stealth 2 hybrid and Three Wood. The Three Wood has this this weight that can go from the front to the back. I put it up on my Instagram in the day and people are like, what is that weapon?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Like they had never seen anything like that. You can adjust it based off how high and how low you want to hit it. It's a crazy piece of technology. And the weighting of the hybrid, like the weight of it, just like feeling it in your hands. It's got a nice girth to it. Something about it just feels really good in my hands. It's a foreign feeling of that girth.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You know what I mean? Like that real thick. It's really, really thick. I mean, we go to the kingdom every year and they fit us and it's great. And they give us all the numbers and they tell us what the differences are. And it's great. But the way that I would describe my love for. the stealth too is that I'm just more confident off the tea with it for whatever reason when I stand
Starting point is 00:41:39 over a ball on the tee and hit it I think I know where it's going which I don't know what the difference is I don't know how they make that difference from one year to the next but now when I have that club in my hand I feel confident and that's all I need confidence is the whole thing so that's I don't know how else to describe my love for it it's made a big difference for me in and we showcase this in the video that we put out but I'm pretty blown away at your toe and your healy hits which I do pretty frequently, how just straight and out there they go. And I'll be,
Starting point is 00:42:09 you know, like when you hit one and you as the batter always know, but like the viewer or the people, other folks that you're on the tee with don't always know. So they hit one and they see it come out pretty straight with like pretty nice ball fight. And they're like great one. And you kind of do like a one hand and you're like,
Starting point is 00:42:23 ugh, that was shit. And then it's still way out there. I've noticed every time. And it will get up there even play with Alice earlier day. He's like, how come you hated that? It's way out there.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I'm like, dude, it's forgiveness. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this thing, I hit that that did not feel good off the face. And it still goes way out there. So Captain Kahn's was all juiced up about it as he should be. And I agree, Frankie. I also did this in the kingdom video we put out, but Trotty was my guy. And as people know, I've always, with the nature of my swing, it's like the three woods generally been better for me.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It's been my go-to club when my driver's not working. And he was doing little tweaks with the three-wood in the five-wood, where we were turning the loft down on the three-wood. He was like, mate, if you're really not feeling it with the driver one week or you're in like, we're really windy conditions, you're out in Scotland like you were. And you're like, dude, if I hit this little fan of the right, it's going to go out of bounds the whole day. He's like, you can do this where you turn your three wood down on the loft, but then you use that little back weight and you put it to the highest setting. And he's like, and you will hit these hot, but towering three woods that will come out again, like with the lower loft, they'll come out hotter. but they'll go up in the air and stay up in the air and travel.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And I hit a few after he tweaked that. And the numbers were hilarious. And he's like, yeah, this is a phenomenal. This is like the Frankenwood that Phil used at the USO when he was carrying like three different drivers one year. He's like, you could just do this with your three wood before around. Obviously, you're not allowed to tweak it during around. But that technology with the stealth too is phenomenal to continue going with Alfred Nobel was a Swedish chemist, engineer and industrialist. famously known for the invention of dynamite.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Whoa. But isn't it the Nobel Peace Prize? So there's a Nobel. Let me look at the different types. There's a, there's a, let's see, medals, diplomas, award money, controversies and criticism.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Let me just look up, what are the Nobel Prize categories? Like, did Oppenheimer win a Nobel Prize? So there is literature, peace, physics, chemistry, economic sciences, and physiology or medicine, it says. Okay. So you can win one in any of those categories. Every year they give this thing out. I will say the piece one seems a little out of, it seems like a little bit of an outlier there.
Starting point is 00:44:54 These are all pretty much academic categories, literature, physics, chemistry, economic sciences, physiology or medicine and then just peace? Just peace prize? It feels like the most subjective category. It feels quite subjective compared to the others. For these people that grow up that are always searching to get into like the high honors classes and like win all these awards like the Dean's List and all this stuff, is the Nobel Prize in their category just like the thing that they like strive for in their
Starting point is 00:45:25 career then like once schooling is over? Is that why this was created to give them one more thing to pursue so that they can have more things to try and accomplish? I would think so, right? I mean, that would make a lot of sense. To just like push these people because they realize that like you needed to give them something. Yeah, people just like awards too, you know? Just fucking people love to just chase something. And it's like you just put that on your mantle.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I imagine that helps too if you're in a, you know, you're trying to become a tenured professor and you're fighting with somebody else for the gig. and you have like a Nobel Prize in physics. They're like, yeah, I mean, do you have a Nobel Prize in physics? No, you're out. This guy's it. I think the financials attached to two are pretty large. But again, your earning potential, like you're saying, goes through the roof if you have a Nobel Prize.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah. What's the, uh, what are the math awards that the guy gets in a goodwill hunting that he always references? Oh. You don't talk about? Oh, yeah. Um, fuck. He's like so-and-so has X amount of awards and mathematics.
Starting point is 00:46:31 But they're not like Nobel Prizes, I don't think. Are they? Fuck, I haven't watched that movie in so long. I had a row. I watched that movie like every week. That's a great movie. Field metal sounds right. Maybe field metal, field medals.
Starting point is 00:46:45 He has X amount of field medals in mathematics, something like that. All right. Anyway, stealth too. People love it. Speaking about physics, it's great. And I just wanted to relay that that, you know, completely out of the blue text. Unprovoked.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Unprovoked. I didn't ask anything. I wasn't inquiring about his thoughts on the stealth two. He just hit that puppy, one swing, dropped the club, picked up his phone. He's got to text somebody about this.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Things fucking unbelievable. So go check out the stealth two. We're also doing it sweeps. I know it's promoting these on videos over last week, but we're going to give away a stealth two driver and a stealth two hybrid or fairway wood, whatever your choice is. to two different people.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So that's four clubs total. You go to Taylormigolf.com slash barstrel sweeps. So that's not even on my list. I'm supposed to talk about that. They're not required to talk about that. But you want to go and enter to win is tailormaidgolf.com slash barstool sweeps.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I think we're doing that now through March 1st. You've got six days. How many days are in February 28? So you've got six days. It appears five days once this comes out to get yourself signed up. I got something real quick before we go into that. I'm sorry, but you got me on this fucking thing. I know this is kind of an all over the place.
Starting point is 00:47:56 show already, but I looked at this quantum physics thing that won the Nobel Prize for quantum physics and says this won the Nobel Prize. The universe is not locally real. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:12 One of the more unsettling discoveries in the past half century is that the universe is not locally real. In this context, real means that objects have definitive properties independent of observation. For example, an apple can be read even when no one is looking.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Local means that objects can be influenced only by their surroundings and that any influence cannot travel faster than light. So essentially what they're saying is that this evidence shows that objects are not influenced in the universe solely by their surroundings and they may also lack definitive properties prior to measurement. So they cannot then state that it is locally a real thing. Because it's all theoretical. They don't really know because they haven't.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So like that apple being red even when you're not looking at it, they know that for fact because of its surroundings cannot change the color of that apple from being red. They cannot say the same thing about things in the universe or the universe in general because it seems to measurements, things do change prior to measurement and after measurement, not based on them like being around. Yeah, there was something a couple months ago that we were talking about. talking about where they were, it was kind of, it was about waves. And it's there, there's some,
Starting point is 00:49:29 there, there are certain aspects of the universe that change when they're being watched and when they're not being watched. Yes. Yeah. Is, I forget exactly. I mean, talk about forgetting the details. I forget about all of those details. Yes. They're just so smart. But there is something where when you're looking at something, it's one thing. And then when it's not being surveyed, it becomes a different thing. And that like flips the way that we're perceiving that was a debate. That was a theory that like everything is fake. Like everything we're seeing is just like our our version, our perception of earth. But like if you actually were able to like separate everything that we're seeing,
Starting point is 00:50:06 then it would actually be completely different. Was that like the rays, the sun, the sunlight waves from that like we're being monitored or viewed or something and that, you know, the, it was when we were doing a lot of our simulation talk. that a big part of the theory and belief that maybe we are in a simulation is that those waves change when they're being viewed versus when they're not or something along those lines something like that yeah that's fucking wild that is wild that makes me uncomfortable those type of things make me very uncomfortable because I think seeing is believing and it turns out it might not be true how about the fact that these people these
Starting point is 00:50:47 motherfuckers said that the universe is not real and they won a Nobel Prize for it but you got to prove why that's right. Right. The Fields Medal is a prize awarded to two, three or four mathematicians under 40 years of age at the International Congress of the International Mathematics Union, the IMU, a meeting that takes place every four years. The name of the award honors the Canadian mathematician John Charles Fields. You don't really get that many chances to win this puppy.
Starting point is 00:51:19 They do it every four years and you have to be under the age of 40. So that guy, the duchy professor in Goodwill Hunting, I think he had like several of them. So you got to be pretty impressive. Well, I just Google this quickly and then we can move on. It's the double slit experiment that we're talking about. It talks about observing particles and not observing particles and how some of that stuff switches. And they're not totally sure why. When they observed it, when they observed it, it was in the straight line.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And then when they didn't, remember, it was like hitting all over the place. Right. That's right. I do remember that. I gave me the chills back to how creepy that is that that experiment is real. And then also, it's like I was just walking around a grocery store today. And that was, I was getting groceries. And that's real.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So if you get too far out there, you're like, what's real and what's not? Like, oh, these particles are moving when we're not looking at him. I also still have to get up and take a piss in the morning. You know what I mean? Yeah. You drink so much water. I drink a ton of water. Yeah, over eight cups a day.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Way more. How about, so do you guys, do you think when it's really windy out that it's dangerous? So today in Arizona, today in Arizona, it's,
Starting point is 00:52:40 how about today's forecast is 40 mile an hour sustained winds with Gus up to 60 miles an hour. So, I don't think that's dangerous. I mean, I think like a hurricane's 100 miles an hour, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That's when it starts. I think like a hurricane. With the category one hurricane might be like under category one hurricane. Dude, when Hurricane Sandy ripped through Long Island, those are some wild winds, man. I remember looking out. Breaking down each category. A category one hurricane has winds of 74 to 95 mile per hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I'll tell you this. When the Doratio hit Cedar Rapids a couple years ago, the winds were, I believe, up to 140 miles per hour. And it fucking devastated the city. So I don't know. what point things start to fly around like what's the wind speed when things start to get lit like when trees get uprooted so we got a lot of trees got uprooted just and i asked we got this email to our apartment building because obviously Arizona people have balconies and there's like an outdoor
Starting point is 00:53:39 terrace and a pool and all the bullshit outside and we got an email to our entire building that was like you need to remove all your stuff from the balcony we're getting incredibly high wind advisory and i was going to go out this afternoon play a little with the golf i thought it might be fun We're going at Pebble next week. If I be windy, I get a little bit of a spread. But I'm like, is it too dangerous to go play golf at 60 loud hours of state wins? Or is that just, it's just a windy day. 60's a wild time to play golf, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:09 60s wild. It would be fun, though. If it's like not crazy temperature-wise, I think it's actually pretty fun to see what happens to the golf ball. In the desert, does that cause the upkick of sand? Is that a stupid question? I believe probably out in like the desert. the real desert it would i don't know that like in these neighborhoody golfy type areas like the desert's broken up enough maybe that i'm not really sure we do get like in the summer they get crazy monsoons
Starting point is 00:54:34 out here and and uh dust storms like severe dust storms where they pop up out of nowhere and you have to pull over on the side of the road or you'll die basically it's crazy but the winter that's usually we're usually pretty chill in the winter maybe it gets a little chilly a little cold here and there but like for the most part the winters are pretty tame the summer here shit gets weird in the summer here. I mean, if you think about 60 miles per hour, you said a Category 1 hurricane is what, 70 miles per hour? 74 to 95, it says.
Starting point is 00:55:03 That's pretty close to Category 1 territory. That'd be tough to play golf in. Now, I don't know how severe a Category 1 hurricane is, but I think anything that's, if somebody says a hurricane's coming, I don't care what category it is, that seems pretty, it seems pretty fucking serious.
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Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, you're saying this because you had to shoot commercial. That eyeliner, I talked about in the beginning of the show, I had eyeliner on and it's just irritating my eyes, like using the eye makeup remover. And they do that so easily. They have these towelettes. They have these little cotton swabs. They put a little thing on there and they're just, they'll do it as they're talking to you in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:55 They'll just be like, oh, yeah, how was your day? I did that in the car just before and I was like weeping. Like it was burning my eyelids. I was like scratching at them. I have bags under my eyes now because I was like kind of working at them for so long. Not easy. And that's just like two lines above your eyes. Imagine the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:58:11 The contours, the different types of cheek stuff. Yeah, I don't think I would, if I were women, woman, I would not wear makeup. That's just a lot of,
Starting point is 00:58:18 women are warriors when it comes to fucking putting on makeup and taking makeup off. Our mornings are considerably easier than a one morning. Oh my God. They're negligible. I mean, it's nothing. It's just you could pretty much. wake up and you're ready.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You don't have to do a single thing if you don't want to. Nope. And you look pretty much the same. I didn't do a single thing this morning. I mean, I showered. And that's all, that's really all the upkeep that I have to do in the morning. Brush my teeth, clean my ears, put on deodorant. That's it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 That's pretty standard. They got to do all that stuff too. And then all the other stuff. Everything they got to do, man. And they don't have to do it. But it's just like, like, oh, like women wear makeup. Imagine we had to imagine society switched where we just had to wear makeup all the time I think makeup sales would go way down.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Oh, they switch. So the women, the women don't do it now. No, I'm saying if you, if you put the societal burden on men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Put on makeup every single day, makeup does not exist. It exists in a very much smaller percentage. Yeah. I genuinely think that. I don't, maybe I'm wrong, but it feels that way.
Starting point is 00:59:27 But it's weird because makeup makes you look better. So why don't men wear it? some do i'm sure yeah they do i mean like the like tv industry movie industry like uh artists or whatever like musicians all these guys they everyone they all wear makeup i mean athletes when they're doing their photo shoots they get makeup done and stuff they walk over to them and they fucking patch under their eyes but like we go out there and we just like how come it's not acceptable how come it's not acceptable how come it's not acceptable for me to throw a little bit of like eye shadow on you know what i mean but i'm saying like why why are you fucking looking at that
Starting point is 01:00:01 at me, Alex. Do it, you know, why is it not acceptable for fucking, for, stop laughing at me. Stop laughing at me.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Why is it not acceptable for me to throw a little fucking blush on, dude? I think I look better with rosy red cheeks. But why is that, I see what you're doing right now.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Why is that not accepted? You just want you to be you, man. Be comfortable in your own, no, no, no, don't turn that in or change. Don't turn this into that. Don't turn that into that.
Starting point is 01:00:29 It actually does. Here's the, here's the, Why is why? Nothing wrong with that? When they came up with makeup, whoever, was it the Chinese? Who came up with makeup? What a guess?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I think it was, dude. I'm not kidding. I think it's old China came up with the idea of putting on makeup. I feel like the Persians, right? I feel like the Persians were very into that, you know. Egyptians. I'm thinking old world. Old world makeup.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Did Cleopatra wear makeup? Ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt. There you go. Bang. How come they didn't. 4,000 BC. 6,000 years ago, boys.
Starting point is 01:01:01 why didn't they why didn't they just be like all right when these guys go to work they're going to wear makeup too yeah that is more of uh an expectations thing right or i actually think the men did wear makeup back then you see all those the pharaohs right they used to have things around their eyes used to have like the the wing tipped eyes that i can i can picture it right now all the pharaohs have what i'm saying think about the movie 300 when like the persians that's what i was thinking persian yeah they i mean when they're being hoisted up on their little platforms and they're basically cabanas that they that they cruise around in they're all geared up make up uh caked up what's that guy's name what's his name in the movie that's xerxes is it zirxes is that zirxes is that the guy from toy story
Starting point is 01:01:47 no who you think who am i thinking of no who do they fight toy story one zirksis are you sure us that zirksis sid no the the who the fuck do they fight do they fight you guys sirs sid no the the who the fuck do they fight it's like the guy it's the alien guy oh i know who it is i can't come on guys give it to me we have two producers what are we thinking i'm looking up something else what what's his name surge surge okay listen frank if you want to put on a little bit of eye shadow every day i think that's totally when did it change we need to find that when did men stop wearing makeup what culture put an end to it? I wonder,
Starting point is 01:02:31 I wonder if we could tell if you put makeup on. I don't know that he put it into it. Like, I don't know that the Greeks were like wearing makeup, the men ever. So I think it's just certain cultures were and some weren't. Nowadays, it's an expectation thing.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Like for better or worse or however you want to say, women are they wear makeup and the men don't. And we just walk outside with our sin. It's also our culture. Like I don't think it's like that everywhere around the world. Right, right, right. That's true. I think Arod tried to come out with male makeup.
Starting point is 01:02:58 recently. Really? I don't know how it did. But like I, I just, I can't wrap my head around why it's not, like, because we're supposed to be like grizzled and don't care about what we look like. We care about what we look like all the time. We buy new clothes all the time. We buy like the coolest.
Starting point is 01:03:14 You want to wear makeup, Frankie. I'm just wondering why it's not acceptable. I just picture him in his bathroom. It is acceptable. His fiance's makeup like, I got to get me some. I want to get some of that. Put it on. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I think about it very much accepted. No, because I have. had some on me yesterday and it was just like you're looking at yourself. You're like, oh yeah, like everything like your eyes pop more. But it's like you look better with makeup on. That's what makeup does. Makeup makes you look better. Yep. Whatever. People can be calling me gay and stuff. I'm going to be getting me. You can wear makeup if you want. Everyone, that's what happens to me. every time I say anything, it's nothing wrong with it. But that's just where no one can have, no one can ever have just like a free thought without applying like that person's sexuality to
Starting point is 01:03:53 something. I'm saying I think people look better with fucking makeup on. Why does that have to do with anything else. To the credit to give some credit to those. If KFC and Fidelberg heard this right now, they'd be like, you want to suck my dick? Well, I mean, at a certain point, you know, you just start adding the evidence up and it's just, you put it all in a big pie.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Whatever, dude. And if you listen to your appearances on KC radio, they're just, they go and always, they always go with it is what it is. Dude, I'm just saying you look better with it. And I just, I just wonder why it never stopped. That's all my point.
Starting point is 01:04:23 All right. Speaking of which, there's a mixed team event now on the PGA tour that was just announced. The PGA Tour and LPGA Tour players will compete for a $4 million purse on network television as the tournament long known as the Shark Shootout became a mixed team event this
Starting point is 01:04:40 year with 16 teams. The tours formally announced the change Wednesday with Grant Thornton serving as the title sponsor. I imagine it won't be called the Shark Shootout anymore. No. Which is, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:55 The Associated Press first reported of the mixed team event in December. There's been a lot of cults for this over the last few years. So it kind of felt like this was always going to happen to some degree. It's not as, I guess it's not as like disruptive as it could have been because there were, this was kind of a mixed event last year, right? I mean, Nellicorta played and there's been, you know, female participants. Because last year at this same event is when kids and Homo were just raving about Nellie Korda.
Starting point is 01:05:28 game and how she didn't miss a shot and that presser, which was fantastic to see them just basically oogling over every shot that she hit and how good her game is. And then her responding being like, yeah, I think it just speaks to how good the women's game is because I don't win every week. So if they think I'm this good, like there's a lot of girls out there that are just as good or better. So like I said, if it was one, you know, if it was like the Phoenix Open was becoming a mixed event or something, that would be like, holy shit, this is going to be an entire brand new introduction unlike anything we've ever seen before it is going to be new it's fresh a great step in that direction um and yeah is a team of a mixed team event is something that we
Starting point is 01:06:08 haven't fully seen before so them kind of going uh all in on it for this event and having a four million dollar purse and the whole deal is obviously fantastic and i think only a step closer to their being what i'm kind of alluding to which is more of a full fledged mixed team event between the two tours no it's a no brainer and did i read that they haven't released format details yet. We don't fully know what the format's going to be or I don't know. If we, if we do, I didn't read it. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I haven't seen it. I saw Tony Fina and Ellie Corder are teammates. Yep. Ricky and Jessica are teammates. Ricky and Jessica teammates. Is this surprise you guys at all that live didn't go after LPGA? And if they did, maybe we just didn't see it. But like, isn't that a surprising thing that they didn't just throw a ton of money at that
Starting point is 01:06:52 entire tour and just grab all those stars? They've gone at it to a degree like the Iran. M-Co series and all that is, you know, when they go and play, right? Like, do they get the biggest players? Yeah, a lot of them go pretty much. And they, you know, they make a ton of money that those weeks, that series when they do go play. Well, you're right. I mean, it would be an easy, in theory, it would be a much easier thing to be, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:17 you guys are making, you know, a few hundred grand to a million dollars or a couple million dollars, max if you're like the best, you know, we'll pay you that much, you know, up front to the top 15 players of world to come here and do this. I feel like they would pretty much all have no choice to go because it's not like PGA tour where they're all, you know, they're making tens of millions if they're at the top of the game. Either way where over there, it's like that's really not the case. Be interesting if they got the LPGA to go to live and then they spliced in the top 30 or whatever players throughout those teams on live. And it was like a mix of men and women that we're playing and like you could do the whole team aspect would be i mean that's that seems like a
Starting point is 01:07:59 no brain win if you're talking about like the politics behind everything if they could figure out to do that my god and you're paying these girls that deserve more money because they're the best athletes in the world yeah yeah i would i would also say that for those idiots um it's an eyeballs thing too right like the reason the the men thing was such a big splash is because men's golf is huge i'm saying in a two them now, right? Like in the same tournaments, have, like, Nelly Court of play in them,
Starting point is 01:08:28 but she's on the Aces or whatever. And, like, in the team aspect, she can help make that team better. I mean, she might not win the tournament, but she can help. She's getting guaranteed money anyway. Why doesn't matter where she finishes? It doesn't matter if she doesn't win the tournament,
Starting point is 01:08:40 but she helps the team go, that's something I would watch for sure. Because, I mean, we're going to watch the shit out of this combined event. Just interesting to me that they, like, go after Mito Pereira, and they don't try and go after, like, the biggest stars that they can,
Starting point is 01:08:53 I think would have, have a better time convincing to go because it's not like the LPGA has ever been like the greatest tour for women golfers. I mean, I feel like they don't get that much money. There's not the man. Yeah, no, they've had, I mean, obviously, they've had a lot of issues and complaints and the tour has changed a lot in the last 15 or 20 years. Yeah. But yeah, you know, I, I don't know if they could just do like a mix thing the whole time.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I feel like they would have to have a couple different tours. To me, it would be obvious as them just basically swallow up the LPGA tour, which I think Yeah. There's been a lot of rumors that they've tried or that they've, that they want to do something along those lines. And, and, you know, I think people haven't been as hard on the LPGA players that have gone or gone over to the Ramco series and played in those events because the delta between what they could get there and what they're getting on LPGA is significant. Significantly different. And like the amount, you know, I'm looking at the LPGA money list from last year. Lydia Coe 4.3 million. Minji Lee made 3.8, but you go down to the,
Starting point is 01:09:55 basically the top 10 in the world, you know, make 10th, 11th, 12th, make 1.5, 1.5, 1.4 million. And you start to look at taxes. You look at expenses. We talk about they all have swing coaches. They have mental coaches. They've got to pay out their caddy. They've got to pay for their travel and all of that.
Starting point is 01:10:12 If you're making, you know, if you're Nelly Corda, right, who last year she did only play in 15 events because she had her issues and injuries. in the blood clout and the whole deal, but she finished 12th of the money list. She got made $1.418 million after taxes. That's what, 800 grand or so. Now you start paying and the travel, you're at four, five, six hundred grand that she raked in, you know, after like generationally good golfer. That's, you know, for, yeah, that's a lot of money to the average person.
Starting point is 01:10:41 But being Nellie Korda, being one of the best female golfers on planet Earth is like, compare that to Phil, who's 51. or whatever and not even close to being able to compete at the highest level. He got 200 million to go over there for three years or something. It's pretty incredible delta for them. So if Nelly Korda gets offered $5 or $10 million to go over there and exclusively play there for three or five, you know, it's like, how the fuck would she not say? And it's a league's fault why it's not bigger. That's just like who it falls on.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Like it's not like it's Nelly Carter's fault. She wins all these tournaments. She's marketable. She has all these things going for her. not her fault that she's not making $10 to $15 million a year. It's like the league's reason. It's the league's fault for not just being bigger. You say that with hockey too. Like it's that's the league's fault for not being a better marketable league that Connor McDavid doesn't make $100 million a year. It's just like it's the league's fault.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That's like why. So like the LPGA is just like not doing well. I know it's women's sports compared to men sports. It's eyeballs and all the stuff. But it's like figure it out. I don't know. It's your job. Like figure it out. Or else the bad man's from Saudi Arabia are going to come in and take all these people away. Yeah. Look, it's a hard thing to figure out. I mean, but the certain leagues have done an incredible job. And some haven't.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Like, look at the difference between the NFL and the MLB. It was like the MLB had to schedule World Series now around interrupting, you know, football games. And it used to be the other way around. And obviously used to be the fall classic and major league baseball. Baseball was America's pastime. And the NFL, you know, leapfrog the fuck out of pretty much everything over the last 10, 20, 30 years and became the league. So to your point, it's not like the game is
Starting point is 01:12:22 fundamentally different. Yeah, the entertainment and they've changed rules a little bit to make it a little bit more entertaining. The NFL and protecting the quarterbacks and it's a, you know, that, but it's still fucking football and it's still baseball and the fact that one league has got to the other. I think you're right, Frankie. It's like clearly the league and the marketability and all that has done such a phenomenal job of building it to a point where they own one day of the week. Now they're starting to own multiple days of the week. And if you compare that to, you know, golf and the different leagues, it's like we, you know, there's a reason live exists is because the tour hasn't done as well the job either.
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's like they've catered more, I feel like, to hospitality and to sponsors and they have to, like, curating a phenomenal product. That's why the Tiger Woods thing with like him and Rory and them signing new players are trying to do something at night in a stadium. And there's like different shits popping up because of that reason that like the league hasn't dominated in. terms of making golf PGA and the LPJ, like this riveting product. We talk about it a lot. Golf on a week to week basis is not that riveting to watch unless you get a really
Starting point is 01:13:27 good leaderboard, which only occasionally happened. So yeah, it is up to them to figure that out because like you said, like Nellie Korda's going out there playing the best golf that she can and doing a phenomenal job of it. She's just doing it. Same with like a Patrick Cantlaced comes out to my, like he's not the most electric guy in the world, but like if the, if his league and Torb was doing a better job, he's one of the best golfers in the world he won you know the playoffs a few years ago like he was a rider cup savage like he should be in a position where like you know a guy that's similar to him in
Starting point is 01:13:58 the NBA or the NFL makes an outrageous amount of money and he necessarily doesn't he has to go earn every single dollar by you know competing and actually winning that money instead of having stuff guaranteed because the game has done such a good job of marketing itself and him being a big part of it makes him a lot of money and you could argue the same thing for the LPGA. Now it's a little bit hard for us on the LPGA because they have such a foreign influence that maybe they have done a great job of becoming so much bigger in Asia because there's a lot more Asian players at the top of the leaderboard. And we don't see that because we don't live there and we don't see the marketability there. But again, looking at those, looking at the
Starting point is 01:14:36 total money list from last year versus the money list of the PGA tour, you know, clearly they're behind. And so to bring the whole thing full circle, it's like if they can do more joint events, um, it's only going to help elevate because we've been around the, those women on the LPJ. Daniel King fucking awesome. One of our favorite people. Ryan, who we played with and Georgia Hall, who were playing pickleball with us and who like, fucking awesome. And like those, a lot of those ladies are just personality wise. They're unbelievably marketable. Um, but it's just not, it hasn't clearly like resonated, gotten as big as it should be and hopefully the tour you know i do think part of that is up to the tour too like the tour
Starting point is 01:15:19 can do stuff like this to basically you know grab the hand of the l pga and be like let's go let's like help because we believe if we get you guys out there if we get your product out there and you guys make a really conscious effort you guys being like the league the tour the l pga you know the decision makers like let's figure this to fuck out how to get it bigger because you know the the the back nine of a, you know, of an LPGA event is just as riveting as the back night of a PJ tour event. Like you see people struggling to try to close out an event. You see amazing shots, bad shots.
Starting point is 01:15:53 You see drama. You saw Lexi Thompson at major after major trying to like get it done and then having a rules infraction and have like there's fucking drama and it's the same shit. The women are phenomenal at golf. It is kind of, yeah, to your point, it kind of becomes an issue with the league of like, how come this isn't bigger and better. and yeah hopefully this helps fantasy football and red zone for the NFL
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'm 99% sure that's why I mean those are just incredibly genius ideas for making your league bigger NHL hasn't figured that out MLB doesn't figure that out they may I mean MLB has blackout restrictions you can't watch the Yankees unless you have yes network it's fucking it's absurd
Starting point is 01:16:34 they just don't want you to watch a sport it's out of control you can't put anything on Twitter if you put a baseball clip on Instagram they shut your thing down. It's just these leagues don't understand golf same way. You can't take a CBS clip and put it on the Instagram. You have to take screenshots like grow your sport. Figure it out. I was going to argue for the MLB and NFL thing that attention spans change over time and they're obviously headed in one direction right now with the social media. But then you think about hockey. Hockey is the fastest sport in the world. You're just like your eyes are darting all over the place.
Starting point is 01:17:05 MLB is much more. Let's sit. If you're at the game, just have a beer and kind of pay attention when, you know, somebody's, whatever's happening is going on, but, you know, hockey has happened all the time. So that's,
Starting point is 01:17:17 that's an argument. It's amazing baseball is, is as popular as it is. I love baseball. It's my favorite. I fucking love going to a baseball game. But think about how psychotic it is, that they have to fill a 45,000 capacity stadium,
Starting point is 01:17:31 like seven nights in a row out of eight, right? They'll play like a three game set against the Rangers, and then a three game set against the Oakland A's. And you just got a, you just got a, you just got to fill up that stadium every single night for four-hour games of just boring, long, August baseball. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And like all these other arena, like for 81 times, by the way, not including playoffs, you got to do that. Hockey season is only 82 games. So it's like you're talking only 41 now. You're cutting that in half and the arena is smaller. It's amazing that we've done, like, it's amazing how far baseball actually has come. It is funny. If you were explaining baseball to an alien and you were, you said it just. just how you just said it.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Like there's 81 of them in every single stadium and you got to fill it a couple nights a week. The alien would be like, oh, well, then it's probably like an hour and a half, right? An hour and a half,
Starting point is 01:18:19 you know when you're going there. You know when you're going to leave. And they're like, no, no, it could be five hours. It could be a five hour game. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Like an NBA game, it's two and a half hours and you're out of there, no matter what. NFL game, you know, you know when you're getting there, you know when you're leaving for the most part. MLB,
Starting point is 01:18:35 it's like, no. And that five-hour game ends at like one o'clock in the morning. The next game starts at 7 o'clock the next night. And you got to fill that whole place up again. It's crazy. My dad actually made a really interesting point about that. We were talking about golf and baseball are sort of in the same bucket in this.
Starting point is 01:18:51 But he was talking about how much it annoyed him, like the Mito Pereira part of the full swing, on how they harp on how he was leading and how he like blew a lead. My dad was like, I hate that they harp on that because that's not true. Like he has it. He actually wasn't leading. Like he at the time. was numbers wise under par better than other people, but they hadn't they hadn't played the same amount.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Like they hadn't done. So he's not leading. He's like, they haven't done the same thing and one guy's done it better. He's like he hasn't done the thing that the other guys have done yet. And he was like it's infuriates me because if like over Saturday night, he could be leading. They've all played the same holes. They've all done the same thing. He's done everybody else. He's leading. He's like at this point, he's not leading. He's played 17 holes. Justin Thomas, all those guys have played 18 holes.
Starting point is 01:19:36 he's not leading. You can't claim that he's ahead of the other guy because they haven't done the same thing yet. And he was talking about that in baseball, where he was like, in baseball, it's not that you can't claim somebody's like leading, but he's like, there's no clock. And, you know, so you're not,
Starting point is 01:19:53 you haven't done the thing until you have done the thing. Whereas in hockey or like, especially hockey because the puck goes back and forth so much in basketball, you can be leading because you've played each other doing the same thing, the same number of minutes and seconds, and you were defeating the other team, because you've done the same thing.
Starting point is 01:20:10 He was like, in baseball, he's like, it infuriates me when they do that too, because it's not like you can just bleed out the clock and you can play conservatively and all that. He's like, you have to get the outs, and you're not done until you get the outs. And so he was like,
Starting point is 01:20:23 it was a classic, like obviously like older guy who's fine and shit to just be upset about, which I was laughing, but I was like, he made a good point about the golf where the point about leading is sort of bullshit because they haven't played the same,
Starting point is 01:20:34 they haven't done the same thing. I do that with my own brain when Tiger's playing, though. Like when he's 10 shots off the lead, like on a, or however many shots, like eight shots off the lead and he has, he has a tea time that's earlier on Sunday than the rest of them. I'm like, oh, he's only, he's only five shots off the lead and John Rom hasn't even teed off yet. So it's like, like tigers through 13 and John Rom hasn't cheated off him. I'm like, wow, Tiger's within six. And then John Rom's going to go out there and shoot a 65 and the lead is going to grow, grow, grow. But with Tiger, I'm always like, he's kind of close.
Starting point is 01:21:04 If those other guys, for whatever reason, just shoot even par today, he's going to be right there. Dealing with that with the island is right now. We're in a playoff spot, but we have five games in hand on every team behind us. But for right now, we're sitting pretty at number one in the wild card. No problem. Sure, the other teams have 10 points that they can play with, and they're only five points back. But also, I mean, Buffalo Boy over here, they're squandering. We got five games in hand on everyone.
Starting point is 01:21:28 You have five games in hand on everyone. You just lost last night. They're shit show. It's like watching, if you're watching track with a staggered star, you think the guy at the top you're like that's my guy he's winning right now it's like no no no it's all the same length they're just staggered differently but it does help the team that is in that spot like mentally finish better than if if the roles were reversed like i feel like the islanders i don't have to bring us to the islanders but i think the islanders have like confidence right now where it's
Starting point is 01:21:53 like we are in this spot right now where like we can just win more make it harder for the teams that have all these games in hand to catch our number as opposed to like if you were five points back with the same amount of games in hand, you'd have to try and catch these guys. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, I think mentally it's easier. Like that guy that's in front
Starting point is 01:22:10 in a staggered track event. Yes, the guy behind him is better, but at least for that moment, he might be running faster knowing that he's closer to the finish line. It may not always work out, but mentally it's better than being behind the guy, no.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Wouldn't you rather be the guy with the head start? I don't know. My track analogy, actually now that I'm thinking about, it might not make sense. But what you're saying about the hockey thing, I think makes sense. Like, it just gives them that sense of like,
Starting point is 01:22:31 all right, we're here right now. Sure, a team can just come up and get it, but like if we keep winning, we're going to make it harder, regardless of how many games they have in hand. Yeah. I assume you're saying. Yeah. Instead of trying to catch them, instead of always trying to play ketchup.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah. I'd rather them play ketchup. It's harder to play ketchup. Yep. Definitely harder to play ketchup. You'd rather have the points. Do you refrigerate your ketchup? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Yeah. People that don't refrigerate their ketchup are fucking weirdos. Agreed. Agreed. I just saw another clip. Do you guys refrigerate your bread? No. No.
Starting point is 01:23:02 No, but no, but I've, in my house now, we freeze the bread, which I've never been a part of. It stops the mold and then you throw it in the fucking microwave if you want to use it. I don't participate in that. I'm just like, let's get new bread. What? Yeah, just you just eat the bread in a timely manner or you get new bread. Like, let's say we get a loaf. She'll put it in the freezer like after like a day or two.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And I'll be like, where's the bread? She'll be like, it's in the freezer. And I'm like, why do you do that? Yeah, bread's ruined now. But then I kind of argue it and then I throw in the microwave for two seconds and it's like fine. It's actually really good. You're not eating enough bread then. You're not eating enough like it's like bananas.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I'm trying to eliminate it. I'm trying to eliminate bread. I've been eating a lot of bread. I like bread. With the Weight Watchers, it's the only a certain amount of points so I can eat it. Oh my gosh. It's a killer. It's cholesterol.
Starting point is 01:24:00 The golf capital of the world, true blue, which is an excellent golf course where we're going to be hosting and beginning. Well, you guys are going to be there for the Barstool Classic kickoff in under two weeks. It's not wild to think about the Barstall Classic kicks off and under two weeks. It's revving up again, yeah. We're right back at it. Golf Capital, the world is Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, plays host to more than three million rounds per year. And you should be part of that number. You can go on YouTube, check out the amazing experience we had in the fall of last year,
Starting point is 01:24:32 play at four different courses that were all quite different yet fantastic from TBC. Myrtle Beach to the grandfather. We played the Nicholas course that kind of went around that marsh, which are incredibly tough but cool holes. And then obviously, True Blue and Caledonia are Mike Strance. We love Mike Strance. Tobacco Road looked exactly like Tobacco Road. I could not get over how much Trubu was just Tobacco Road reincarnated.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Incredibly cool. I love that kind of design. The fact that Myrtle Beach has it and all kinds of other amazing stuff is phenomenal. Caledonia Golf and Fish Club and True Blue Golf Club are Myrtle Beach's highest ranked golf courses and our must plays. We're going to be checking out others' reaction to being out there for the Bars to a classic. It's our first stop.
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Starting point is 01:25:40 It's chilly. You haven't been outside. I haven't played much golf, but you're watching, right? You're watching the waste management. You're watching Tiger. You're watching Riviera. You're getting hyped up about playing golf. So just go to this little website right here, CaledoniaGolf Vacations.
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Starting point is 01:26:08 And now you can play awesome golf too. So CaledoniaGolf Vacations.com. Go check out play golf, Myrtle Beach. You guys got a new iPhone. Yeah. I don't know how much more we can shit. I got to, I have to go to the bathroom. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:26:28 What is with the phone not, like the screen doesn't shut off? We got to be out of here in like 20 minutes. No, what do you mean your phone screen doesn't shut off? Dude, it just stays like this all the time. It doesn't. There's a setting. There's a setting you can change. The new phone has a setting where like, yeah, like, yeah, you have to change that immediately because without that. I have to keep my phone upside down on the desk in front of me or on the table or whatever. Yeah, it's absurd. You're also, if you're not charging, you're just burning battery. You would think that, but this is the new natural setting that it comes in. I guess you have to change it. But Trent, it's like it's not fully like LED lit up, but it's faint, but it stays lit up. So when you're sitting there, it's incredibly distracting because you're, you're, you're sitting there, it's incredibly distracting because you're. your phone's just on and you're trained over the last decade to think anytime that thing has light on it, somebody texted you or a notification or a noti, as they said.
Starting point is 01:27:20 But this thing just stays lit like that. So I got to go into my settings. What that tells me is that they're trying to get us even more invested in our phones. Because you're just always now you're always looking at it. You're like something going on over there. I hate them. I hate them for doing that because it's working, man. It's so bad.
Starting point is 01:27:37 It's like, oh, the instinct to just reach into my pocket to just pull that fucking thing out to just look at. to just look at it after every golf shot, after everything you do, it's awful. I know, I'm addicted to it. Um, you got a shit real bad,
Starting point is 01:27:50 eh, Frank? Frankie squarming. Look at it. Yeah, I just got to go to the bathroom. It's been a long day. We can finish. I don't think we have anything else talk about.
Starting point is 01:27:59 We got the Honda. I haven't had much to talk about today. It's kind of been one of those just like whatever comes to the mind type of shows. Dude, the last couple of shows were heavy golf. Heavy. And insightful. Talk about Tiger and live and going back and forth.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Dan was on and he was on site going through a lot of the nuts and bolts. So I figure we do a nice little OG show with the three of us talking about Nobel prizes. I enjoy this. Field awards. Yeah, this is, I've enjoyed this immensely. I end up. It's been a fun time.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Go to the store-dopartralsports.com and check out our new line. We've got, we've got the St. Paddy's Day is kind of what we're calling it. But we got, we whipped back up some of the classics from last year. It did extremely well that green, unreal hoodie. And then the,
Starting point is 01:28:42 the leprechaun with the golf hitting the golf shot. Love that shirt. And we got a couple of these new ones, like we said, this kind of vintage line. This logo that we did last year, this like around, I think we did it originally around the Open Championship.
Starting point is 01:28:56 We released a couple things, but it's sort of this old school, like old English barstool golf logo. And then we mix that with some vintage colors. It's awesome. So there's a bunch of items on there. Store. Dot barstoresports.com.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Hit the four play. Go to brands and hit foreplay and just buy our stuff. because that helps us out. And then go check out YouTube. We got Fixing Frankie another episode coming this week. Is that coming this week? Yeah, that's 6 p.m. Thursday.
Starting point is 01:29:20 So that'll be today. It's coming out tonight? Yep. Holy shit. I just texted Brendan to confirm. You ready for that? Fixing Frankie episode two out tonight. I can't believe we didn't talk about this earlier.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Decade golf. Scott Fawcett. I do, I make a couple of like warning, like, appearances. We added an interview into the video so that I could like let people know like this guy's out of control the things he says make no sense but if you actually
Starting point is 01:29:47 if you just like take what he's saying just generally you're going to become a better golfer you don't need to hit he gets so in depth of everything that's happening in in the game of golf that it's like a lot and i had my dad there in the video which is worth the the the price of a click um because he's just like what he's like what the fuck's going on over he like they go to him a couple times in the episode and they're like what you have any idea what scott foster just said and he goes I don't know what's going on out here. He's like, I think a couple of times he goes, my head is spinning. I mean, that's just what he makes you do.
Starting point is 01:30:16 But there's a couple of core things that you learn from this episode. It makes you a better golfer. The fact that we had Dr. Brett McCabe in episode one, who's John Rom's fucking like marriage counselor at this point, which we learned in the last, in our interview with John Rom. And now we have this for episode two. Trevor Immelman is episode three. The guy won the Masters and he taught me how to putt. He taught me how to read putts. He taught me how to not be a scared putter, how to be aggressive on a line, how to read exactly where you're going to be aiming the putt.
Starting point is 01:30:46 So that's episode three. And episode four, we have some fun stuff in store. So it's, it's fun because I did get better at golf last summer. And I have it all saved. Like, I have it on film. Much better. And it's just been like, how do we portray how I did it? We somehow, like, filmed my journey.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And now it's just about piecing it together. So episode two tonight. Are you excited to take your new game to Pebble Beach next week? I am excited. I am excited. We do have some wild travel restrictions that we're going to have to discuss as a team. I don't know if we're going to do that on here. I know we have a lot of our meetings.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Restrictions? Well, that's a right word. Maybe not a restriction. I guess restriction in the sense that there's not many options for us to get out of there and make it to the Barso Classic in time for Myrtle Beach. I'm talking. Briggs, you have no idea. Like, I don't even.
Starting point is 01:31:35 There's like one option to get from the West Coast to Myrtle Beach. and it includes us to not being able to play golf on Sunday so we're going to have to really have some conversations What about getting to a place and driving? I think that that's going to have to be an option. I don't know that
Starting point is 01:31:51 I think that that one option that we saw guys tomorrow beach at like 10 a.m. the next day. We'll talk. We have to, it's bad. I mean, our booker, Justin Mancini, looked at us and he goes, you're fucked.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I mean, he looked at every option. He goes, you're fucked. He did say that. Because you're not fucked if you leave at like 2 o'clock. Pebble Beach time because that's 5 o'clock Eastern time. You're moving. You're going to Seattle.
Starting point is 01:32:16 You're laying over. You're flying all to Myrtle Beach. But like there's like a three hour layover. Here's the problem though. And again, I can't. We don't have to talk about this on here. Let's talk about it. But the 2 p.m. flight from from out of there is in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:32:28 So you got to drive two hours. Oh, yeah. No chance. Right. Right. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. So we're going to.
Starting point is 01:32:34 We got to talk to our guy, Josh. Once we fly to New York and we like drive to Murdo Beach. which is just like let's fucking go. I mean, I know last time I drove to Myrtle from like Pinehurst, I believe. And there's like, I wonder if there's anything that will fly you to like Raleigh or Charlotte. Then you just drive. Right. Do you happen to know, because we were looking at Atlanta flights too, the Atlanta drive to Myrtle is one that I was curious about.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Let's look at this right now. Drive Atlanta. We need to play Pelham. So here's the, for all the listeners that are trying to listen to us. That's a long one. You can't do that. We're trying to figure out how we play Pebble Beach on Sunday in the Dad Bot Classic, the culmination of an incredible weekend that Josh is near Dad Bot Classic Josh puts together.
Starting point is 01:33:20 It's an absolute fake life type of trip. We're trying to figure out how we can do that and make it for a 730 or 8 o'clock kickoff, tee off of the first Barstool Classic stop at Myrtle Beach at True Blue, a Mike Strand's location, an incredible golf course. I'm going to sing the national anthem again. Hopefully I have a little bit more pizzazz in my, in my, in my, uh, performance. But how the fuck do we do both those things? How do we, how do we do both those things?
Starting point is 01:33:51 It's hard, hard getting from Pebble Beach to Myrtle Beach within like 15 hours. Because the thing is is like, obviously the drive to San Fran, there's going to be more flights out of there. Because flying out of Monterey, there's, there's just, it's a limited amount of flights that go to all these different locations. So again, this is a real first world problem that we're talking about wanting to play pebble and then flying to a Barstool golf event. But that's kind of what we're dealing with. And there's just not many options. There's almost none. But we're trying to.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Yeah, I'm looking. It's going to be three and a half hours from Charlotte to Myrtle Beach, which is a hell of a drive. But I'm wondering if there's like a San Fran to Charlotte that would get you in late. And then you could drive that night. I don't know. That's not good. But it's not good. None of it's good.
Starting point is 01:34:37 It's a sleep in your car just to make the Barstville Classic kind of night. Yeah. Yeah. But for the people, listen, this thing sold out in four minutes and 27 seconds across 25 different cities. We're putting in the work. We're not acting like we want to be there for the national anthem. Like that's we're going to be at the. Here's where we got to clarify this.
Starting point is 01:34:56 We're going to be at the at the at the Merle Beach Barstall Classic. Definitely. We're going to figure out a way to get there. We're also going to probably play Pebble Beach. So whatever that means If you have to dart me in the neck And we have to get dragged by a couple of fucking Like people that we pay
Starting point is 01:35:12 Just to be like just meet us at this place and drug us And oh do that's the problem The problem is that that service doesn't exist yet Although no no no We can ask someone like a listener to meet us there Drug us drag us in the back of their van Throw us in the back and just drop us off In Myrtle Beach roll us out into the parking lot
Starting point is 01:35:29 And then just give me the mic and I'll sing the national anthem We gotta figure it out We'll figure it out maybe we might lose Trent like Trent's not prepared for that no I'm not I've made my stance on red eyes very clear on this podcast
Starting point is 01:35:41 oh this will be the worst one of all this it'll be because you just not only is it a red eye but it's a red eye to an event it's not a red eye to an event it's not a red eye to a drive to no sleep and then it's a full day of I'm gonna be a grumpy bear if we gotta do that I'm be a real grumpy bear
Starting point is 01:35:55 so I'll do it go in with a better mindset fuck you it's one day that's my mindset it's your one day of your one life you have to listen bro I'm gonna do it I'm not saying I'm not going to do. One day you're going to be dead and it's not going to matter. Right. But, you know, if you, if you complain about traffic or the way that someone's driving,
Starting point is 01:36:11 you might end up a dead body on our way to murder. I'll probably have my hands on the wheel that night. That'd be, oh, if you want to do that, that's fine with me. For sure. We got to figure to say, I got to go upstairs right now. Talk to Justin. J. Mack. You got to look at all.
Starting point is 01:36:25 You're going to have to get creative, I think, which sucks. Super creative. I wonder if you did the, if you did like the, charwood or wherever is like a reasonable drive. and then you have to hire a driver and then you guys just slept in the back or something. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Yeah. I like it. We're getting to both. We're going to do both. There's got to be a way to get from California. It's got to be a way. To Myrtle Beach in like a day's time. There has to be.
Starting point is 01:36:51 He said there's no options. There's options. There's options. We can figure it out. And he's pretty good too. For him to say no options is not. He didn't say there's no option. He said you're fucked.
Starting point is 01:37:00 That's what he said. And they FaceTime. me to tell me off fucked. We did. All right. I got to go to peepee in the potty. Go use the restroom. Everybody have a great week again.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Enjoy the Honda Classic. We'll be back next week to discuss God knows what. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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