Fore Play - The Process, The Upcoming, and The Miz

Episode Date: May 6, 2021

The Miz (57:44) from WWE, Real World, and reality TV fame joins the show for the first time. We discuss turning “15 minutes of fame” into a 20+ year career, the humility of golf, and even get a little sparring between The Miz and The Butter Knife. Before the interview, we peek behind the curtain to detail our production process, debate the Premier Golf League’s latest news, and preview both Trent’s first “Breaking 100 Series” trip to Georgia to visit instructor John Tillery and the upcoming Barstool Classic west coast swing.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports. Once again, we did a clap behind the scenes. I will say they may have been our best one. Lurch is not here, so that could be a factor in that. But that was, do you guys agree that was our best clap thus far? For sure.

I mean, it was just in sync. I actually didn't hear Frankie clap, but I'm going to believe that that was our best clap yet. I think that's the goal is if you don't hear anybody else clap. that's probably a sign that we did it really well. True. We are presented by Barstall Sports. We have brought to you by Owens Mixers. I have Owens Mixers right in front of me right now.

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We have The Miz on this show. Pretty, so there's an inside running joke here on Foreplay about the Ms. And it's not malicious, but it's that, you know, we were originally supposed to have them on maybe 10 months ago. It got canceled. Then we were supposed to have them on maybe six months ago. It got canceled. And so there was a long running joke of like, you know what, we're just never going to have. have the Miz on. He's

WWE personality. He's on Ms. and Mrs. like he's on he got his start with obviously the real world back of the day and became huge through that. And so he's got a great story of like taking his 15 minutes of fame and turning into, you know, a

legitimate celebrity. But he's got the WWE personality. So we weren't sure when it came on. Like we're kind of doing our own little inside joke about like the Ms. is never going to end up on this show. And it's fun. And at one point during the show, Frankie actually just yelled, fuck you, the Mizz to him because of his W.W.E. personality. So it was a very funny interview. Yeah, it's just that name, like, The Mizz just kept popping up on Google calendars. And then we'd all get ready for the interview.

And somehow, like, either we had to cancel or he had to postpone it. And it's just like, fucking Miz, man. Like, this guy just somehow slithered through our hands for a couple months. It's just like, what is the Miz doing? what are we doing? Why are we talking about the MIS for a year? Like I know the MIS doesn't want to talk about the MIS for a year to get a one 25 minute podcast. And, um, but it ended up being so good. I'm so glad we ended up doing it because you can kind of tell the frustration was coming out. I think on both sides a little bit. Like he, he, he came after me. I think just like subconsciously, I think he hated me probably because he knew that I was getting frustrated with our calendar changes. And then I was getting at him because like he, his, his little character is.

infuriating sometimes. Like, I mean, he is the WWE superstar. That's hard to handle. Like, that guy just fucking dominates you mentally, physically, everything about conversationally. He is, he's impressive. Yeah, he just, at one point he just looked at Frankie. He was like, yeah, I can tell you're the kind of guy

that pulls like a five iron on a tee, aren't you, Frankie? And Frankie was just like ready to unload. You're like, fuck you. He is such a cool dude, though. I'm really looking forward to having him back on the show. He just, like, gets entertainment. He gets comedy. comedy kind of like the comedic value of like when to be an asshole kind of like he's so up front in

your face and that's w w that's vince mcman's shit right i think maybe you and him have a future on the w w w w i would love to see you on a wbredcast getting body slammed by the miss it almost felt like it was uh like he's in the ring and i like stepped out on the platform and he's like looking at me with the microphone being like you have a fucking water cooler in your room whatever he was saying to me yeah he did He was getting real mean at one point. I picture Frankie running down the ramp. Like, I'm coming to take on the Miz.

That'd be awesome. Does he still do, is he currently still doing W.W. stuff or has he moved on completely from that? Well, during the interview he had mentioned that, like, it was Raw or something like that. And then he's like, you can watch Raw, you can watch me, and then you can watch the documentary. I think he can borrow everything. He's still involved. I could have just asked my roommate, Robbie Fox.

He knows all about that. But the MIS was great. Much better than I think we were anticipating. And that was just on us because we were like, the fuck. Mizz. We've been teasing this interview to ourselves for like a year. Fucking Mizz. Every time, every time Kelly,

our, like, talent or, like, lead of talent at Barstool was like, uh, we got the Miz. I'm like,

the Miz. Like, is this actually going to happen this time? Just that name has just been, has been a part of our lives for a year now. He's, he was good and he's very into golf now and him and so I joined a country club. So he goes through a lot of kind of just the trials and tribulations of what that

entails and struggling in golf, especially for, especially for a guy who's, you know, entertainment, he's a WWE, he's a heel-type character, he's good at everything he does, he's grown and grown and grown, and then he's out there in the golf course being completely humbled because the game's impossible. So he talks about all that stuff. It's a very good interview. So the Miz is coming up.

Sand Hollow, our San Hollow Travel Series, Vegas, Travel Series, episode number two is now live, went live last night, maybe the most stunning visuals from a golf course that we've posted yet on our travel series, the Red Rocks and the bunkering and the sand out at Sand Hollow. We had our buddy Link's Gims, who if you don't know who Link's Jim's is at this point. We've had him on the show once or twice. We talk him out of a good amount. He's a course photographer basically as like a hobby, but he has a big following on Instagram and Twitter. We got to know him through that, and he loves Sand Hollow.

It was his recommendation. So he agreed to do a lot of the narration of the holes and sort of the commentary on what he saw from our play. and he's the one that told us to go out there. That was when we fucked up the time zones. We went to Utah from Vegas, and we didn't realize that we, like, went, jumped forward an hour, so we missed our tea time by an hour.

But the video came out phenomenally. Shout out to eBug and to Frankie, who do a lot of the work on the travel show. It's amazing. You throw a filter. I have these filters here. It's these polar pro ND filters. You throw one of these things on a drone,

and it just makes shit pop like you wouldn't believe. I mean, those drone shots were phenomenal. I mean, it was a little bit of an overcast, it was windy, so maybe we wouldn't have gotten the same footage that we would have gotten on a normal day, like, maybe three years ago or two years ago, and we were just, like, throwing drones up and trying to figure this out. We've come such a long way of making this shit look beautiful. It's amazing. Brendan has taken such, you know, he's made leaps and bounds with his progress on droning. I mean, I don't think Brendan Jones figured that he was going to be a drone pilot for, like, a massive YouTube audience. So it's been really cool to see that progress. The video is really, really good.

It's really well done. The storyline's really good. We're just kind of rolling with these videos, man. I was talking to someone the other day on the golf course. Like they're saying, oh, like, you guys get a shit ton of videos, like, views on, like, YouTube. I mean, on Instagram and Facebook, it's like, YouTube views are just so more legit. It's actually crazy. And, like, we've gone through all these analytics and all these people telling us, like, how it kind of, like, goes down behind the scenes.

Like, a YouTube view is like, you have to watch the video for like a minute or like 30 seconds at least. You have to sit down and watch content. Like a lot of the other things like Twitter and Instagram, like, you just scroll over it and it's a view. It's a view. And like that's why you'll get these like crazy numbers. When we hit like 100,000, 150,000 on a video, that's fucking a lot of people sitting down and watching our consuming our content. So thank you to all the viewers who actually have like been showing up for all these videos. Like we're on such a streak right now of just hitting major numbers.

for our YouTube platform. It's nuts. Like, we're not missing. I know that we're rolling because when I was at the office yesterday at Barstall, HQ, I had at least two people come up to me and just say, I just watch your guys' videos now. I watch it as if I don't even know you guys. I throw it on late at night and I just let it play.

Like, it goes from one video to the next. And they're like, your guys' video are fantastic. They're funny. The production value is fantastic. So obviously we're getting a ton of views just from our fans, and we really appreciate that. But I know it's making an impact when people at our own office are like, I just watch your guys videos like you guys are stranger stuff.

So we really are on a roll. We do the bit, right, where we ask people to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We call them out by name and Frankie kind of attacks all of the stereotypes about their name and makes them feel like horrific people. But the reason we do that is because YouTube is something that we have focused an amazing amount of time on over the last year, year and a half. And these videos that, you know, we've lined. up and that we've kind of got in production and that we roll out kind of on a scheduled program.

We have an enormous kind of undertaking and process going on that is getting those done. Like when we are out there filming those Vegas videos, we've got three or four camera guys. We've got an audio technician. We've got Brendan on the drone. We've got all four of us miced up. We've got Jake, bug, like running around all over the place. We do that all day long. We try to get as many interviews as we can to add different perspectives.

And we drive two and a half hours back. We go to sleep. We get up. We do it all over again with kind of a different crew or maybe part of the same crew and get all of that footage. And then someone, Brandon, Frankie, whoever, generally that's the crew, has to go through all of that footage, hours of footage, sink it all up and then decide to comb through. Which drone shots do you use? When do you splice in more drone footage versus more golf shots? What music goes underneath?

Like, that's just one fucking video. And then we put those out every week. And we've got that mixed in with the tailor made footage of Dustin Johnson when we're playing with him and of, you know, the scrambles that we're trying to get done. So it's an enormous undertaking. And I don't think that it's, it's clearly not an accident that the quality and the production value has come out very from any objective kind of observation. It's just very clear how good it is now. And that shit matters, man. Like when you choose on your TV to throw on, you know, one of our YouTube videos instead of cruising through Netflix or Disney Plus or whatever, it makes a difference when on your fucking, you know, your TV that you splurged for when you got a sick ultra high-deaf TV in your bedroom or in your living room and you choose to put our foreplay video on there, you know, we care that it pops, that the filters that Frank is using on his drone.

You know, that, like, I was stunned that the footage looked that good from San Hall because when we arrived, we were bummed because it was fucking cloudy and shitty. And you're like, man, this place would pop if it was sunny. And then I saw the footage in the teaser and I was like, oh, my God, it popped, even though the weather was the worst it could possibly be. So we put, you know, a lot of people asked me at the classic all the time, like, hey, I know that the job isn't like what it looks like all the time. People say, I wish I just had these guys' job. They just get to golf all the time. Like, what is the other stuff that goes into it? And that is a huge part of it is all that behind the scenes work.

And the stress of filming, right? Like, sinking up after every hole, making sure that people are on the right page. If we did fuck up a shot, like being able to have the balls to tell all eight people in production, like, hey, stop. We need like 10 minutes. We're going to hold up the whole golf course. People are going to be mad at us. But it's worth it to get the shot. So all that fucking goes into it.

And I think in this video, it was very clear that, like, it's worth it. Yeah, it's, and, you know, Jake and Brendan have edited so many hours

of fucking golf videos. It's actually insane. Like, like on the plane the other day, on the way home from San Diego, like, Brendan had, like,

a legitimate panic attack that he wasn't going to be able to spend the six hours coming home, editing because there wasn't an outlet, and he actually moved his seat to, like, a more expensive seat so that he could have an outlet

in the front of the plane. Like, it's actually, like, six, five hours of his day couldn't go on, or else that video wouldn't have came out. Like,

those videos take so long to edit for that kid, it's actually outrageous. Like you have five cameras, four tracks of audio, I mean, a six hour round to go through, and you can't miss one shot from one person or a drone shot. It's unfathomable how long that takes. So shout out to them. And yeah, and what you're saying,

sometimes I feel like an asshole out there when I'm like legitimately yelling at people being like, we need to like figure out how to get the right shot. Like we're only on this golf course for four more hours. If we're missing the shots, let's figure it out now, not when we're at our computer. trying to deal with why we didn't get the shot. Like, I'm always trying to get that through their head.

And it's like, all right, yeah, yeah, let's figure it out. Because we have these freelancers that maybe not, don't even know what golf is. And Brendan's trying to figure it out. And Jake's trying to. So it's like, it is such a grind to get that done and also try and be somewhat entertaining out there. That it's amazing that it ends up working out. I'm stunned when we walk off 18 that we actually have a video done. I'm stunned.

And that's one of the other things. Like trying to, then we're trying to be funny, right? Like, we're trying to make sure that we add some value, which like, It's not like that's a huge grind, but when you go from, like, screaming at people or, like, one person's mad at the other and we're trying to make sure we have the shot, then it's like, oh, poor player, happy go lucky, friendly guys out of the golf course. It's like, no, we actually cut each other's throats off. I think we've gone to the point now where, like, our chemistry, like, we know each other.

We're all buddies to this point where, like, I don't even at, like, I'm legitimately when I'm out there, I'm just thinking about is it getting filmed and is it going to be good. And then, like, all the banter in the middle or whatever the actual video is, is just us naturally. Like, I have never once in these last travel series. Like, maybe in the beginning, I was trying to be, like, a little buffet of bits. But now it's, like, legitimately,

I'm not even thinking that people are watching it. I don't know if you guys feel the same way. Like, when it's just Brendan and Jake out there behind me, I'm just trying to make sure that it's actually captured in the way that, like, I envisioned it. I'm not even thinking about what the content is. So the fact that it's entertaining, to me, is insane. But that's just our banter naturally now.

Like, that's just the way I talk to Lurch is just the way I talk to Lurch. Right. And I think that's, and it comes off as, more genuine. Like if you, like at the beginning, if maybe you are trying to do a buffet bits and everybody kind of does that at the beginning, like trying to find your voice, trying to figure out what you think people are going to like. But then you find out that we're going to these beautiful golf courses. The place is stunning. The footage is stunning. And then just the interactions that we naturally have, like those are funnier than us trying to be like,

hey, let's set up this little thing and people will think that's really funny. Like, people will see that that's forced. And it's better. Like you just, you and Lurch just shitting on each other. like that's way better than you guys like trying to figure out like what's a funny thing we can say to each other 100% a lot of it a lot of it turns in like it's situational humor on the golf course right that it's just it's not like we didn't come up nobody's coming up with some groundbreaking fucking joke out there it's more just the reaction and the banter to it I would say maybe more so it's it's it's hard to focus on playing like hitting good golf shots when everything's going on which is like not that it matters it doesn't but we all to some degree when you're playing like you're playing like you're playing like you're playing like you're want to play well. It feels good to play well and hit good shots. And golf is so much about focusing and like bearing down and getting into like a rhythm that that can get hard, but also like our footage does better the shittier that we play typically. So at the end of the day, who really cares? Right. No one cares about me striping a hybrid down the middle. They just want to see me fucking put one through the halfway house. That's just like what they care about and that's fine.

I'll always give that to them because that's just how I play my game. We do have Wolf Creek coming out too, which is nuts. That plays. This is just like a cartoon, a cartoon setting. And then we have Cascada coming out, which is probably my favorite course in the entire Las Vegas area. I mean, just Bethpage Black almost. It's like a northeast grass in the middle of the desert with all these rocks and canyons.

So that place is awesome because the superintendent actually worked at Bethpage for like 10 years, I think it was. So that guy just has that place. Scott Delpierre. Yeah, Scott's just got that place absolutely dialed in over there. It's just really, really fucking cool golf course. So those two are coming out. E-Bugs on his way out to Chambers Bay right now.

So who knows if he's going to get that video done? I mean, I just don't know when these guys edit these videos. It's truly insane. And people do like bad golf. And that's what we found out. But I want to let the listeners know that my bad golf days are coming to an end because we're going down. Yeah. So, you know, no longer am I going to be hitting bad shots.

Me and Jake tomorrow, Thursday, are heading down. We're flying down to Atlanta. and then we're going to meet up with John Tilleri, my new swing coach, and I'm going to figure this shit out. We're going to film the entire thing. That's going to be another YouTube series that we're doing. It's going to be different than like the travel series.

It's not going to be crazy production. It's basically going to be stool scenes of me trying to get better at golf. So laugh while you want in the trenches. You're going to be down in the trenches. Yeah, we're not going to be what? The trenches. The trenches. We're just going to film the whole thing,

and hopefully I come out of better golfer on the other side. But like I said, laugh all you want at my side. my shots. All the ones that are in the bank, you can laugh at those, but I'm just going to be a great golfer here pretty soon. John Tiller, coach of Kevin Kisner and Ricky Fowler. Yep. Just a well-known in the space.

He's a thought leader in the golf space, and he will have you dialed in. It's just a fact, right? Like, that guy knows how to tell people how to hit golf balls. You're an athlete. You played college football. You have made interception. I'm sorry. You played high school football.

You made interceptions with one hand, and it's on a highlight reel on YouTube. And that's just something that you can do. Like you can play sports. And he's just, he's going to understand that. And he's going to figure out how to make you get that ball in that hole below 100 strokes. That's what we're hoping for. J.T. was in Scottsdale a few weeks ago, so I saw him.

And he's very confident. I'll tell you that, Trent. He's very confident in your future. I don't, to be honest, I don't think it has anything to do with you. I think he's just very confident in. his own ability and he thinks applying his abilities and knowledge to you is it's inevitable that you're going to break your goals. Yeah, I'm very confident as well. I think I've been playing better, you know, Torrey Pines, 7,800 yards aside. I just blank that from my memory. But like Frankie's saying,

I'm a person. I'm a person with limbs who knows how to move them. I'm somewhat athletic or I was once upon a time. So I think if we combine all those things, so the original goal is obviously breaking 100. And we're going to try our best to do that. And then if we, you know, accomplish that, we're just going to keep moving forward and keep moving forward. But the original goal is to break 100. And I am very confident that we can do that. I don't know what the time span is, when that's going to happen. But I'm confident that he is going to be able to get me there in a relatively short amount of time, hopefully. I mean, you shot 103 at San Halle, right? I'd have to go back and look to that. It was 100, 3,000.

It's just, that's one bad hole. That's eliminating that one time you couldn't get out of that bunker with four swings, right? Like, that is just, so, I mean, if J.T. can't get you there, I don't know who can. Like, you're right there, man. Yeah, you took a huge, massive, monstrous step back in your progress in the golf at Torrey Pines and at Olympic. I mean, you couldn't have taken a further step back in your progress in this game of golf. To the point where, like, I actually didn't think they were going to allow you to finish that round at Tori Pines. like physically take you off the golf course.

So he may have some work with the most recent Trent, but the trend that I saw at Rockville Links and at Quaker Ridge, that Trent could break 100 tomorrow with just one or two more tips. Well, the only thing that I'll say about all that is when I do attempt to break 100, I'm doing ball and hole. I think I have to do it that way. And that is what we did at Torrey Pines, and that is where I was really, really terrible.

Like when we play Rockville and we play Quaker, you guys are pretty generous about, like, if I'm putting it all over the place, you guys are like, that one's good. I'm going to have to finish all these out, and that is going to make my score go up a little bit. So I don't know if I'm as close to breaking 100 as it would appear in some of the videos,

but I'm somewhere right in the middle. So I think if we clean up a few of those mistakes, I'm going to be right there, but I don't know how long it's going to take. That's what we're going to find out with this video series. It's going to be great. National vodka is also great. This is the official folks vodka of Barstall's sports. It's a premium 80-proof vodka made from some of the finest quality grains from America's heartland. Five times distilled for unparalleled smoothness filtered three times for a clean, crisp finish. We speak a lot about the old transfusion on this show for the last four years. We've been speaking about the transfusion. Put a little new Amsterdam vodka in there. You throw a little transfusion mix in there and you have one of the best drinks known to mankind.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe they number their fucking bottles. It's making me want to go check my bottle and see if it out. Go check your bottle. Go check your bottle. Can you check your bottle? While you check for your bottle, I want to talk about it. I want to talk about New Amsterdam vodka because I'm in a little commercial with New Amsterdam vodka.

I am on national television. Every single hockey game you watch on NBC or NBCSN, you'll see it three or four times a game. My dad and I just pop up and we're just in this commercial. I mean, it's a fantastic company. They are the official vodka of Barcelona sports and the official vodka of the NHL. So I like hockey. I like golf. I like Barcelona.

And I like this vodka. Trent's back, but before Trent says anything, how do you guys feel about being, you know, you appear at the part where they talk about being losers. Losers. So the first day that, the first week that commercial came out, the islands went on like a four-game losing streak. They hadn't won since I appeared in that commercial. Since then, they've now clinched the playoffs. Yes, we're on a little bit of a dry spell right now with this fucking Dugie Houser guy in Buffalo,

this 28-year-old, AHL, ECHL, whatever the fucking leagues he's been in. This guy, Hauser, has played for the Buffalo Sabres and has absolutely stonewalled the Islanders. He's the best story in the NHL in the NHL this year. I mean, he's just been a grinder in the minor leagues. If you look at his elite prospects, it's insane where this guy has gone to play hockey and just continued to grind and grind. And now he's finally made it to the Sabres. He's the eighth string goalie. And he's, he made 46 saves and won in a shootout last night against the Highlanders.

I just can't take that guy anymore. I just, the Sabres taking four points on the Islanders this week, has really dampened my mood. But, Trent, what does that bottle say? I got bad news for you. It says 525. So maybe it has something to do with five times distilled or something. Well, I will say it says five times distilled up there, which I think is pretty sweet. So we've got to figure out what that means.

Maybe they came from the same batch? I don't know. Yeah, it could be. Or maybe it was like number 525 of them like. experimenting to get it perfectly, and this is number five. I don't really know, but what I do know is that New Amsterdam vodka. I think it's the name of that vodka. Okay, so the number, oh, I see, of their, like, of all the different vodkas they make,

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E-Bugs on his way out there right now. We got Chambers Bay tomorrow. Frankie and I have been there. We played Chambers Bay with Devon Taze, who's now a member of the Colorado Avalanche. Killing it out there. He's really good. And his boy, Matt, what is it, Ravel? Is it Revelle or is it Revelle?

It's one of the other. Well, I was fucking everything up that week, so who knows? I think it's Revel. Maddie Revell. Revelle. One of the two. It's one of those two. It's one of those two.

But you were calling De Vaughan. That was nuts. That's what I was saying. I couldn't pronounce anything that week. So who knows if it's Revelle or Reveal or Reveal? I don't know. What a spot for the Barsoe Classic. You know, excited for everyone that's going to be there.

Those views are unbelievable. That golf course is sick. The fact that there's a Barstow Classic there is just insane. And then you guys are going where after that? Is it? San Francisco. So first, look at this. Ian,

Ian Solomon just sent me this picture from Chambers. He's there setting up right now. I'm taking a flight in a few hours. It just looks perfect. So we're going to Chambers. We went there with like rainy and fucking windy. The whole fucking time. The whole fucking time.

Wow. It's going to be nuts to play that in just good weather. I know. So it's supposed to be like 65 and cloudy tomorrow, but that's fine. As long as it's not raining in that part of the world, I think you're having a big win. So we are at Chambers Bay Thursday.

We are then at Half Moon Bay. outside of San Francisco on Monday. How is that place? That place is outrageous, right? So this place looks awesome, too. I got another picture from a buddy of mine who just played it yesterday in a practice round, and he sent this picture from the 18th T. I'm showing you guys.

It looks like there's a castle on the cliffs. Yeah, dude. Half Moon Bay is like a Pebble Beach in Ireland or something. Yeah, that looks like across the pond, like. Right. Agreed. It looks, it looks, yeah, it looks like it's been there since like medieval times, except there's just a golf course on the cliff. So we're at, we're at Half Moon Bay on Monday. And then Thursday, we're at Monarch Beach, which is kind of an Orange County halfway between L.A and San Diego. Then we have a week off, which is PGA Championship Week, so we got to go down to Kiowa. And then I take a red eye back from Kiowa. And we have back-to-back Monday, Tuesday, after PGA Championship Week, at True North, which is out here. in Arizona. And then the Friday of that week, we have Arrowhead in Denver. So we got a big, like, West Coast swing coming up.

Denver's going to be nuts. That's a good one, too. I mean, all those places are nuts. I mean, there's not one bad golf course in that list. They're just elite golf course after elite golf course. Hell of a lineup for the Barstow Classic. It's just crazy where it's gotten to. I'm fired up, man.

It's been a few weeks. We had, you know, since our last one. so Atlanta, I'm excited now to get back on it, to get going. A bunch of travel coming up. I'm also excited because I just sort of canceled a little bit of travel, and that's maybe one of the better feelings in the world because I can tell Trent's all excited about it. But I was planning on doing basically three weeks on the road.

I was going to leave today, go to Seattle, and then instead of coming back to Phoenix, I was going to spend an extra day or two in Seattle, didn't go to San Francisco, didn't go to Southern California, California. Didn't I make my way back to the East Coast for the PJ? I just cancel my plans. And I'm just coming back from Seattle on like Friday. And I'm just spending the weekend in Arizona and then going out. So I feel like I got to pack like one shirt now instead of packing for three weeks. It feels fucking awesome. Yeah, that's the right decision. Just veg out, chill out.

You have way too much flying going on in this next month. You just got you got chill for a second. Just fucking chill. All right, Max Homa this week is the defending champ in Charlotte because they didn't have a tournament last year. So it'll be fun to watch. I imagine he'll play well. He played very well last week. Ended up, I think, finishing six place. Posted a couple underparts.

He didn't have a great round on Sunday and the final round of the Valspar. But he was right there. He's one shot off the lead. I think he was tied with or right around there the betting favorite to win going into Sunday. And now he's going to be the defending champ. Max, obviously, one of our guys. It would be a fun week to watch him at Quail Hollow, which is also a major championship course.

It's where the President's Cup is going to be next year, and it's where JT won PGA Championship, what was, I guess, what, four years ago now, something like that. But anyways, Max, one of our dudes will be fun to watch him this week. Yeah, he's been playing really well. I mean, he had some insane holeouts from last week, so it feels like he's finally in a place where he's just going to start playing well every single week,

which is what we kind of all expected from Max at a certain point. We know he's good at Twitter. We know he's good at social media. I'm sure they'll talk about that on the broadcast until the day he dies. But it's nice, I'm sure, for him to start being well-known for being a guy who wins tournaments and has a chance to win tournaments every single week. And I know you spend time with him out in Arizona rigs. He's one of our guys.

So we're always rooting for Maxoma. It'd be great if you won it again this week. We'd be a big sport as that. Big fan of Max Homa. And this will just lead him. If he can go back to back at Coal Hollow with him, with his whole, and Trent's just drinking ice coffee, by the way, right into the mic. I want everyone to know that.

If that's what you're hearing, that's just something that's happening. Bro, they're going to, he can't he? I don't know. Frankie, you do have an ultra-sensitive production guy sense about you all the time. It's just like, this is an audio podcast. It's just crazy to have the ice rattling up against the lips. That's just like, you know, how are we supposed to pay attention? You know how loud that was in my ear?

That's insane. I just figured that you could power through it and then Jake could kill my levels when that part happens. I don't know how. If you notice people watch it on YouTube, I try every time to go over here, but it doesn't really work. You have a button on your mic that you can just press in and it's just a mute. The one looking at you. This one here? Yeah.

See how it's green? Just press it in. That's muted? No, hit it again. It's going to turn red. Oh, okay. I see it. Okay, there you go.

I'm sorry. I'm new with this mic. And, you know, I kind of yelled at Frankie before we started because I got these headphones on and I hate wearing these headphones. Frank, don't you think Trent's like a headphone, he's a prima don'tona when it comes to the headphones? He's always a headphone problem. What is with you in headphones? He says he can't hear himself. I'm like, that's just headphones.

Like, I just like, when we've done podcasts in the past, when I didn't have this mic and I didn't have these headphones and the audio was terrible. And I'm sure the listeners hated those podcasts. just because the audio sometimes are so bad. But now that the audio's gotten better, I put on these headphones, and I can't hear myself. And I like to hear myself when I talk. Right now it feels like someone else is talking,

but I know that I'm talking. You feel it in your chest? Yes. I feel like I'm at the bottom of a cavern. And normally I have the Apple wired headphones, but Kevin Clancy borrowed them at the office yesterday, and I forgot to get them back from him. So now I'm wearing these studio-style headphones,

and it just feels like I'm not doing a podcast. it feels like I'm listening to someone else do a podcast. So you gave someone else your AirPods, huh? What do you think about that? No, they're the wired ones. Oh, okay. But either way, headphones, they still go in your ear. They go like inside the ear, yeah?

Or you don't care about that. Me and Kevin, me and Kay's so close enough that we, it doesn't matter to us. You share earwax? Right, we're buds, we're boys, so I don't care about that. Okay. But long story short, I still feel like I'm listening to someone else do a podcast right now as I'm saying this. I understand. I mean, I guess I feel the same way.

It's just, I have gotten used to it. Because, like, yeah, when we talk through these mics, it doesn't come through my headphones. So it's just I'm speaking out. I know what you mean, Trent. Like, it does, it does feel like you could be screaming and you don't know it. Like, if someone, if someone were in the other room, they could come out, be like, can you stop fucking yelling in the mic? And you'd be like, I don't, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was doing it.

That might be why I talk so loud on this podcast. I wear these things. These things are noise canceling. So I just speak. I've gotten used to that sound. Like, I guess I'm dealing with what you're dealing. with it just doesn't bother me right now. But maybe that's why I'm so fucking loud on this thing.

Could be. I apologize for the iced coffee incident. No, that's okay. I hope we keep it in, actually. I accept your apology. I would say it would be very hypocritical of me to make fun of you, Trant, for that, because I purposely, I got these really sweet noise-canceling headphones, and I wore them on the last show that we did,

and I felt like I was yelling in my apartment because I couldn't hear myself either, so I went back to just the ones where I can hear myself now. Right. Like I might go to the lobby of my building and someone, my dormant, I'll be like, we've been getting complaints all morning that a man is just yelling in his apartment. And I would have no idea because I feel like right now I'm talking at a reasonable level, but I could be screaming. You just keep screaming the name John Tilleri. Why? Like, what is happening in that room.

So, yeah, Maximum, I think what I was going to say was I think, you know, if this guy can string along some wins mixed him with his social media presence, like that's a guy to watch with that $40 million player thing that we got. going on because Max Homa is the ultimate just on social media kind of guy and if he can start becoming a guy who wins on the golf course on the regular watch out for Max Homa his brand everything that he's got going for him rooting for Max he is one of our guys also Quail Hollow we got a text message in our little dad bod classic group chat that Todd Martin is on on premises he took a picture of what the Peter Milar like area looks like at Quail Hollow it's insane I don't know how Peter Milar like makes their area look better than others. I mean, I guess they just do everything a little bit better than everyone else, right?

Like, you go into these pro shops, you go into these like mega tournament style merchandise tents, and like you look at like Nike and all these other places. And then you look at fucking Peter Millar and it's just class. They got like wood down. They have like white cabinets and like the shirts fucking pop. It's actually pretty like preposterous what they end up doing with their little sections. So go in and maybe you'll see him. Maybe you'll see that that handsome fella that runs fucking Peter Millar.

I mean, if he's in that, you've got to tell him that foreplay said what up while you're buying Peter Millar's shirt. I think he's at Will Hollow. One of my favorite people in the world, one of our favorite people in the world is Todd Martin. He did put on the group text, if anyone is at Quail this week, stop by and say hello. Like we're all just like waltzing around Charlotte all the time. But if you are, you know, in the end of the end. and you see the Peter Marr shop, go in there, go look for the handsome kind of silver foxed fella who is who is just one of the, he's a delight to talk to. He will make you laugh. He's an awesome guy.

So shout out to Todd Martin and Peter Marr because their setup looks great. But, but yeah, Max's defending champ. Max is a guy like around here in Scottsdale. You know, it's like clearly a pretty tight-knit like golf communities, a bunch of guys that live here. You know, it's commonly discussed that people think Max is going to be a top 10. player in the world he's that good so to see him playing so well for the last several months obviously winning at riviera having a couple close calls and now he's defending so good luck to max this week um i got to talk about the premier golf league because we just you know we just mentioned the 40 million which everybody's been bringing up a lot the the pip the player impact program

where when i was when i was little my mom used to call my my pee pee a pip oh did you hurt your pip or something like she like if you ever oh like something i don't know why like that was just i did not see that coming nope that's just that's just you know how like moms have just like weird words because they don't want to like say like certain things like to little kids or whatever so like instead of like pee pee was pip i remember once like i was holding it she's like what happens your pips hurt just like i was like four years old like ah ha holding your pip on for just for dear life you're just like this is my pip just grabbing it like You just never know what you're going to get out of the Brelli household.

That's probably something that I never thought I'd say. You know? It's probably something Jake will make it to a fucking promo and put on Instagram. You know, it's just one of those moments, you know? Yeah, he will. He'll find, like, yeah, you use your mother and it'll be a really weird, like, unfortunate. It's a little bit more behind the scenes is just like how Jake, he, he crushes, like, 55 promos before every single podcast. I think he goes to bed at, like, 4 o'clock in the morning.

to edit our fucking podcast. And just like, it's so funny that we'll talk for two hours, and I'm the dumbest person in the world, and the first person to admit it. I mean, no one thinks that they're more of an asshole than I am, like, than I do. Like, I just am the, I'm the least, I'm, what's the opposite of biggest fan?

Least, smallest fan? Biggest critic? I'm the biggest critic of myself that you could find in this world. So when I go on Instagram and I'm like, all right, like, let's see what we actually put up on the main Instagram with like a million, followers. It's always like the dumbest thing I said of that two-hour podcast, which is fine. Like it gets clicks and people like to call me a fucking loser and they're going to burn

Borrelli's down. But I, it's just something like that little PIP thing will somehow be on Instagram. It's just like, I don't know. I was just saying it to my buddies in this little square Zoom thing. I didn't know it was going to be, you know, on the internet. But it is what it is. It's so fun. It's so crazy. The Premier Golf League, so the, you know, there's been interesting. interesting things happening in the last several months in professional golf, basically as a result of all the rumors over the last year or two of the Premier Golf League, which is Saudi-backed, tons of money, rumor that it's like got a billion dollars behind it. Now the latest, sort of in response to the $40 million player impact program, hilarious thing that we've spoken about many times now, was that they are offering players up to $30 million to sign. or join the Premier Golf League.

This rapport clearly carries enough weight that Jay Monaghan, Commissioner of the PGA Tour, held a player meeting Monday evening or Tuesday evening after practice rounds with everyone that was at Charlotte at the Wells Fargo and essentially told them any joining of the Premier Golf League will result in suspension and possible expulsion from the PGA tour. So it doesn't sound like the Premier Golf League is just going to go away.

I know that Webb Simpson came out and said, you know, well, guess it's really like not about, you know, the money. And I know that Webb Simpson is in a spot because nobody's going to be paying fucking top dollar. Let me tell you the number one guy who didn't get an invite to the PGL or the Super League of Golf. It's Webb Simpson. So he's talking freely about how this is the stupidest idea. ever. They're not in like Saudi Arabia being like, ladies and gentlemen, we got them. And they put up a picture of fucking Webb Simpson and people go crazy. I mean, you're not fucking Tiger Woods, Webb.

I think he was the number one guy when we did a couple years ago, like, who's the number one, like white bread? I think we had to use the word tapioca guy on tour who's just vanilla pudding. Vanilla pudding, that's what it was. And Webb Simpson, I think, went number one in the draft. All due respect to Webb Simpson, but he's not, like, he's not going to be up in the player impact program rankings at all. No, never. Nobody cares. If you're an average fan, you don't give a fuck about Webb Simpson. You just don't. He's got his hybrids.

He's got like 11 hybrids out there, and he plays his game, and it works. He makes a lot of money, and he's had stretches where he's one of the best players in the world. That's all good and great. Seems like a nice guy. He's got, you know, North Carolina. He's got a little home, I believe, in a place over on Country Club in North Carolina, where Frankie and I have both played there and had tight matches with a 12-year-old, who's now 13. So Webb Simpson's great.

He's fine. he doesn't move the needle and nobody gives a fuck about web stamps on a large school. It's actually a nice place to be too though. Like web stem shers are a good spot. You're like super rich. You get to play in golf tournaments all the time. You're like at one point one of the best golfers in the world and no one gives a fuck about you. That is maybe the best that's maybe the best place to be of all time.

Agreed. I think it's a great spot to be. But it ain't going to earn you PGL money and $30 million offers that Dustin Johnson and others are getting. So now, you know, we're in a place where these motherfuckers don't. seem like they're going to go away from the Premier Golf League. And at some point, money just talks. And if you can get, you know, if you can drop the Saudi stigma and a lot of the negativity around things that have happened there, current events, politics, global events,

and you just care about money, baby, then somebody's probably going to take them up on this at some point. And, you know, and the other thing I would say is if, you know, we hear this a lot from Rory or from other people that, you know, it's not about the money. at this point it's about the championship. Well, if that were true, then these guys wouldn't be in fucking commercials. You wouldn't see them on TV.

You know what they're doing commercials for? Money. You know why they're doing like endorsement deals? Money. Like money fucking matters. So yes, is it the end-all be-all when guys are playing in tournaments and guys make, you know, $10, $30 million a year if you're one of the top dogs? Are you thinking about the dollars and cents over every put?

Probably not. Is winning a tournament more important than winning, you know, $1.7 million over one point? one million, yeah, winning is probably more important. But to say that like, oh, it's not about the money, that's just not true because otherwise they wouldn't be in ads, they wouldn't be taking endorsement dollars, they wouldn't be doing all these different deals with different companies, they wouldn't work with all these agencies that grow their brand to try to make them more money because they wouldn't care about money. They care about money. The PGL has a ton of money,

and it'll be very interesting to see how it all shakes that. The one thing that's working against the PGL, and I hear everything you're saying there, is that they are targeting the richest guys in the sport, which you have to because they're also the most popular, the most dominant, the Dustin Johnson's, the Justin Thomas's, the Brooks Keppkas. But I do think it does boil down to these guys are already extremely wealthy, and there's already a lot of history baked into PJ Tour victories and winning those events. And people know what that means, where it's just hard to pull somebody away by saying, hey, we're going to offer you all this money to a guy like Dustin Johnson,

and when he can just be like, I'm so good that I'm already making a ton of money. Like, it makes no sense to jump from the PJ Tour to the PGL when you already are making a ton of money. Like, it's just, I understand why the PGL is targeting these guys because they are the biggest names in the sport, but that also works against their case that they're actually going to get these guys, because money, while obviously a factor in everyone's life, and they are doing these commercials to make money, they already have a ton of it because they're the stars of this current tour that they're already a part of. Didn't DJ this year not go to a tournament? Didn't he not go to, was it pebble because he had played over in, in the Middle East and like,

yeah, I believe it was a ton of money. He got shit a double. Right. And like our point and our take on that was like, yeah, like Dustin Johnson like can just go play like this one tournament, make double the amount of money than he would have at pebble the next week. And he gets a week off after that and just makes the money. that he always wanted to make that week, and it's over. Like, he just didn't care about the tournament over in the States.

He just wanted to make the money. Like, so I do think at the end of the day, fuck, man, like, that's going to be a lot of money to turn down for these guys, especially, I mean, who knows where that number's going to go up to, right? It's, like, reports of $30 million offer. Like, you're hearing billion-dollar backers in this thing. It's, like, they're going to come out with tournaments with $100 million purse. I mean, the numbers coming out of this PGL is insane. So, I mean, who knows what's going to happen. I would like to think that the history and the stats and the idea of the PGA tour and wanting to be a part of that history would have a little bit more value than maybe we're putting on.

But maybe that only works for a guy like Tiger Woods who actually has a chance of breaking these stats. Does a guy like Dustin Johnson care about where he falls on the all-time majors list or does he care about making like a billion dollars one day? Well, the thing is like the majors don't have anything to do with the PGA. tour. So in theory, like, you'd still, like, if in terms of their stats and their history, I think it's so unique compared to other sports, right? Like, if there were an NHL similar situation where people were trying to drag them into a super league, you would be very against it or, you know, one of your big negatives, one of your big cons would be that, like, you want to win a Stanley Cup. Well, the Stanley Cup is directly tied to the National

Hockey League, obviously. this case, you could still play major championships. And I think that a lot of the history that they chase is major championships. I don't know that like the history that they really chase is like winning the BMW classic. I don't think that that carries the same amount of weight. So if you could move to a PGL and they were able to get some sick courses that people were hoping that there be tournaments at in the States and in other places around the world and make $30 million dollars guaranteed and then also still play in the masters which is run by august national not the pga tour and you're able to play in the pga run by the pga of america and you're able to play in the

united states open and the in the british open that are not run by the pga tour like it's not crazy now clearly nobody said yes yet um more than likely nobody will say yes and you'll never get that because you can't have like a premier golf league without at least a substantial amount of guys doing it. You can't just have one if like fucking just Justin Rose says yes, you don't have a league. So, um, so I think it's still, you know, less likely, um, than not that it'll happen. But I don't think it's crazy because if you can still do the major. Now, if the USGA and the, and Augusta came out and said the same shit, like I think everybody's instantly out. Does, does the PGL have any sort of broadcasting rights? Because I know they said they want to put

on five events, but are those going to be on TV? Because that visibility for players is very important. Like when there's a PJ tour event and it's on golf channel and it's on CBS, being on TV and being able to be seen, I think is a big part of what goes into like you were saying with doing commercials and all these deals where if you're part of the PGL, like I just couldn't find, I did a little bit of searching, but I couldn't find any concrete broadcasting deals that these have. So if you're just playing in these tournaments, yeah, you get this huge. chunk up front just for showing up. But then if it's not on TV anywhere, you're kind of screaming into the void.

The PGL's not a thing right now, right? Like there's no league set up, right? They're just waiting for like acceptance, like of players. They wouldn't have like a broadcasting thing yet, right? Like there's just, this is just an idea as of right now. If I am one of these big time players and the PGL comes to me, if I'm Dustin Johnson, I immediately ask them what they're broadcasting. casting rights are.

Because if I'm not going to be able to be seen on TV playing golf, being this amazing number one player in the world, then it's certainly not worth it at all. It's got to be on TV. But it's not easy to get broadcasting rights at all. It's a good point. It just has to be on TV, though. They can't play for $30 million just like some local country club.

I don't even know what that would mean. Maybe they bring in Foreplay to stream it. Yeah, I mean, like, what are we talking about here? Listen, if they want to play on TV. If they want to put $20 million into our bank accounts for streaming it on our YouTube channel and maybe to barstlesports.com, that's a conversation we can have. But I just, every article that I read on the PGL or the Super League, I didn't see anything about it being on TV. Imagine the headlines now, like bucket Barstall Sports partners with Saudi Arabia to like go into a new golf. It's like, yeah.

Also, would these events be in Saudi Arabia or would they just be like, No, I think they want to do them at like sweet, iconic venues or unique venues. I imagine they have at least one there, have a championship there, who knows what they would do. But I think they want to do it like a little bit internationally, a decent amount in the U.S. Because clearly they're going for all the U.S. players. So like they all live in the U.S. You can't just tell them all to fucking go play elsewhere. So I think they want to do a lot of them in the U.S.

Wow. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to watch either way. That's my stance, right? Like, if they fucking form this PGL, I'm watching the shit out of the PGL. It just is what it is. Like, that's something that legitimately would be enticing to watch these guys playing for a shit ton of money. That's something that we talk about with the PGA championship. Like, they're always trying to find their lane and their thing that their championship has.

It's a shit ton of money. Like, that's their thing right now is that the guy wins a lot. It's a big purse and all that. So, I mean, I don't know, man. I just like the drama. I really do. Like, when one domino falls, we're going to go crazy. If Rory McEl says he's on the PGL, the world will light on fire.

As a golf fan, having a legitimate competitor emerge for the PGA Tour is only going to be a good thing for us and for the players. It's tangible. You see it with the player impact program. That is a direct result of the PGL. The PGA Tour saw that, and they're like, we have to respond. And it just ends up making one of the tours better, both of them better. like remember when the XFL popped up the original iteration of the XFL.

Like that forced the NFL to take things away from that the XFL was doing and basically implement it into the NFL. Like I'm pretty sure the XFL was the first league to have cameras flying over the entire field. And the NFL is like, that's a great idea. We're just going to take that. And I'm guessing that's the same sort of trajectory that this PJ Tour versus the PGL is going to have is where the PGL is going to have these outlandish crazy ideas

that the PGA Tour would have never thought of and the PGA Tour is going to take those, implement them into their tour, and they're just going to be better off for it. Yeah, I mean, it's no different. You could look at that in any example, in business, like look at Apple and Microsoft and the phone business like Android,

none of that stuff would exist if it weren't for the iPhone coming up first and then they should make it better and better and better. You keep innovating because you've got competition. So 100% agree. Like on the net hole, it's got to be better. for golf that these guys, the PGL even exists, came up. I love that it's like mysterious, right? I love that like originally when it was announced a year ago or so that like nobody knew who was

behind it. It was just kind of this this cloaked figure that was spoken about abstractly that had like maybe a billion dollars and was trying to start its own golf league where just basically Tiger and Phil and DJ and Rory would play against each other all the time. So it's got, it's interesting. Now, obviously, the Saudi, all the negative connotations around Saudi, like make it tougher to be pro PGL, obviously. But I think that it will be a net positive for golf as a whole. Much like pinned golf is when it comes to range finders.

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Like that's a big part of a rangefinder for me. It's just got a good weight to it. The shape of it is a little different than your regular rangefinder. And the way it feels in my hand makes it my favorite rangefinder by far. I love the ace. There's different levels to these things. And this is just an affordable gets the job done rangefinder. It's as simple as that.

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All right, jens. Next up, I think we have the MIS, unless anybody else has anything else. The long-awaited, the much-anticipated, the MIS on 4'5. This is stunning. All right, folks, we're joined by a very special guest. You've seen them all over the place. he's a superstar. He's, he's, he's got his own show now, he's real world,

originally, The Miz. Mike, welcome to the show for the first time. I understand you're a little bit of a golfer as well, right? A little bit of a golfer. I feel like I literally am on a golf course. That's what I do every single day. Am I good? Doesn't mean I'm absolutely fantastic. I golf. It means I love going golfing. I love being out in the mornings, smelling the freshly cut grass, you know, just being out there.

and hitting an amazing shot, there's like nothing more incredible. But hitting a bad, it's like you can have an entire round of bad shots and the only thing that matters is that one shot that you hit that was like either like a chip that made it in or like a long putt or a huge like 300 yard drive.

Like that's all that matters. It really doesn't matter about the all the crap. Like people that keep score, I don't even keep score anymore because it does not matter. I lose 10 balls around. Yeah, but then when you think about it afterwards, you're like, you know, I got something here

because that one stick shot that I hit, boys and girls, like I'm on to something, and this is a new golfer you're looking at here. So it's funny. So I went to the kingdom, right, which is tailor-made, like, fitting. It's where, like, Tiger goes, where Rory goes to get, like, fitted for all their stuff, you know?

And the Foreplay podcast. Yeah, that's where we go. We're tailor-made guys. Yeah, exactly. So I went there, right? and I have this video, and it's from like probably about six months ago, and they gave me like what Tiger's dimensions were on a rescue club. So I was like, what's Tiger hit with this?

And I hit it like, oh, that's pretty good. And they're like, I go, what's Tiger? He goes, about $2.50. I go, give me a second. So I literally just started. So I did one, so I did one, and I basically totally whipped it, didn't even maybe like 100 yards because I was just trying too hard. So I said, all right, let me get this squared away.

Let me lock in. Locked in. Hit the ball, 260 yards right down the fairway. I was so excited. Like, that's all that mattered. Like, it's like that's my mindset, like that I can hit it further than Tiger with a rescue club. But honestly, if Tiger was really trying, you could probably beat me.

You'll have that forever. You were lefty? I saw you kind of do the lefty swing there. You're a left-hand golfer? Okay, Frank is our resident lefty. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you have a slice?

I don't know what I have. It's just whatever shows up with me that day. But yeah, I would say that my miss off the T is probably a slice. But, you know, when I'm hitting it well, there's nothing better than that lefty draw down the fairway. People, you know, it gets oozing Oz from the crowd. So I've been with, like, I don't know if you want to call her my coach, but a person at the at the country club that I'm involved in. has, they have like people that teach you stuff. So I went to her to get rid of my slice.

I cannot stand that I cannot hit the ball straight. It's upsetting to me. It's aggravating. And she basically like, so usually you put like the foam pads, like, whatever it is, like in front of the person. She put it on the back of me and I lean up against it. And if I lean up against it and hit, I will hit it straight. And she's trying to get me to draw.

So she's like making me overcompensate on my, like I literally have a very strong grip. And so with my grip, I'm like trying to like, I don't even know. Like she just has me so far over that I don't slice, but I can't draw it. And what she wants is that nice, perfect like in and out kind of deal, but it just doesn't work that way for me for some reason. But I've been working on it and working on it. just not happening though. Has she done, she ever done like somebody will put a head cover or a piece of foam on the outside of the ball so that you can't come from the outside on the ball?

That's kind of what I do that sometimes. So that's what she, and honestly, it helps out a lot, but you can't do that on the first tea with your friends there because it's like, guys, wait a second, I just got to set this up real quick. And then also like, I'm always aiming wrong. And I don't know why. So I have a hard time aiming and I never realized I did. like I look at where I want to shoot it and then I go up and she'll be like, yeah,

you're going to hit it right. And I'm like, no, I'm not like she's no, you're compensating for your slice. Don't compensate for the slice. Try to hit the ball straight. I'm like, I do try to hit the ball straight. I really do. It's the number one thing that I go up and say, I want to hit the ball straight. But it just doesn't do that.

I know I'm going to slice it. I know what's going to happen. So I'm going to compensate for it to stop compensating for it. Aim for where you want to aim, vision it, and literally go. I saw something that Michael Jordan was like, if you can vision it, then it's going to happen. Like when he's on the golf course.

And that doesn't happen for me. Not at all. No, I still compensate. I have a nasty slice. I'm a righty. I aim as far left as I possibly can to compensate. Because I'm never going to hit it straight.

Is golf more frustrating for you because you've like, you know, WW superstar and you know, like, how to do that. That was like, you knew the outcome of what you were going to do. Like,

profession, that's something that you're really good at. And now you go on to golf and every swing can be different, right? Like, I'm trying to see if there's any parallels or complete opposites between your life prior to being, you know, the country club now playing every single day. You know, that's, it's got to be a little bit of annoying for you, right? Not figure out why it's not going down the middle every single time. So when I did start, like, kind of keeping score, like, I kept the score. So I would golf every day and it would be the same thing every day.

feel my game getting better, but the score still remains the same. My problem is I lose too many balls. For instance, I'll give you an example on a hole number one of our lakes of nine. I know exactly where I'm going to hit it. I'm going to hit it right down the middle because I do it every time. Then the second hole, I'm going to slice it the first one. The second one, I'm going to overcomensate and hit it into the woods and the next one. And then the third one, I'm going to hit it down the down the path. Now, my friends have all said that I'm no longer allowed to take Mulligans. So that's an automatic eight for me. So I go to the next hole. The next hole is a par three. The par three, I always land like on the right, on the right,

and even if I overcompensate, no matter what, I hit it in the same, like if you do the same nine, you always end up in the same spots. It's crazy. And so I know exactly where I'm going to get. And the problem is I can hit the ball straight on my second. On the second one, I'm always really good. Like, I'm always like, they say I have like, I don't know, 150 yards. And I hit the first one and it misses the green. The second one, I know I'm going to hit the green. I know, and I might even hit it in the hole. But it's always on that second one. And I'm not allowed to have the second one because my friends are like, you no longer allowed to have that. If you're in a country club. You've got to basically make sure that you keep the right score because you want your

game to be really good, blah, blah, blah. No, I don't care. That's why I don't keep score anymore, because it's not being fun. Yeah. I think you're on to something not, I think you're on to something not keeping score. I might start doing that. That's a good idea. Trent, people, too many people are obsessed with your number, Trent. You got to keep, you got to keep your score, man. It's just too high, but whatever. Yeah, like kind of to Frankie's point, right? Like, you've done a lot of different things and been successful at them, whether it's TV, it's professional wrestling,

it's like reality TV. And to be able to, you know, spend so much time doing something that's fucking impossible to get good at. Like, because it's infuriating for us as someone that's had a lot of success doing different things.

Like, is it even more infuriating for you? Do you know what? Do you know I did? Like, so last year, I joined the country club, right? And I said, you know,

I live on a golf course. I think I'm going, like in my this is how stupid I am I honestly believed truly believed that I was going to be so good in one year that they might invite me on the tour they might just say hey I thought I was going to be Tony Romo good like you know what I mean like yeah goes on there and he's like he'll go in like try out and all that stuff like I'm nowhere near that where I thought I was going to be a year ago like I thought like that is my mindset and I am not even freaking close And I have honed in. I've locked in. Like my back hurts. Just this side of my right side of my lower back is always in pain because I'm trying to hit the ball so hard. And they're like, well, don't hit the ball so hard.

Well, I want to hit it 300 yards. And that's the fun part about golf. Hitting a huge bomb out there is the number one thing that you want to do in golf. I don't want to hit a little like 150 yard drive. No, I'm sorry. I'm a man. I want 300 yards. Let's go.

I like the attitude. I mean, you know, we all kind of have a little bit of that in us on the golf course, right? We just want to grip it and rip it. The problem is that I feel like you're that guy

that just lays up, never uses a driver. You use like a, you use like a, I'm going to use my five iron on this one. Fucking Ms. Man. No,

Frankie, Frankie can pipe it. Fuck you, miss. Fuck you, miss. I don't fucking lay up for shit. bombs.

I don't. Al Riggs hits bombs. I'm hitting fucking bombs. I'm iron here. Fuck you. I'm going to get a better score. I suck. No, I fucking grip and ripping and ripping.

You got to stay with the lefties, man. You can't be laying up shit as a lefty. You've got to have that nice, beautiful swing. I grip it and rip it every chance I get. No, I'm not laying up shit. My problem is, though, is that, like, I do it too often. And now I'm trying to do, and that's something you should do if you want to get better. We have to be smarter on the golf course.

No, like at some points. that second hole, just hit it in the fairway. How much more fun would you have if you were on that golf course, on that fairway on that second hole without hitting it into the fucking houses? Here's the problem. Even if I used a five iron, it's still going slight. It's still slicing. No matter what on that, if I do a drive,

it does not matter if I use a driver, a three wood, a five iron. It's going right on that second hole. It's going right no matter what. It will be less severe if you use a five iron as opposed to just roping a driver over there. but I understand what you're saying because I have the same problem. I feel like the people like hate me near this golf course because they know when I'm coming. Like you can hear it on their roof. Like you can hear my ball hit their roof and bounce off.

And sometimes I get a lucky bounce where it'll hit their house and bounce right back on the fairway. I'm like, this is amazing. It proves you how mental this game is that certain holes just own us. Like it's the same thing. You're just trying to hit it. It's linear. You're just hitting it on a line. You're just trying to hit it straight.

So why can you do it on one hole? And then the next hole, you step up and you're like, nope, I know I can't hit this fairway. I've never done it before. It's no different than anything else. You have a flat T-box. You have a driver. You have a T. You have your golf ball.

You have your glove. You have everything's the same. Except you just can't fucking do it because the game is so mental. It's in food. Now I'm looking at Frankie behind him. It says U.S. Open. I did a U.S. Open proam, right? So let's think about all of that.

Now add people there looking at you, watching you. Right? How'd you play? So I remember getting up to the third hole. And it was like, I think it was like the third hole or fourth hole, something like that. But it was like a long, a long hole. And I was like, all right, I'm going to lay one out. Like, I'm going to show these people like, give them something to yell about, right?

So I literally crank it back and just swing for the fences. And I almost missed the ball. The ball didn't go past the ladies' teas. Like, it was very embarrassing. And everyone in front of me, like, you can. could hear like the wind just go with my with my club and you're in front of all these people and there's nothing more embarrassing than hitting the ball 10 feet in front of you or almost missing the ball than that like in front of people and on on on television like that that's not

something that you want and then how about this on like the seventh hole I think it's the par three that's right by it. I'm sorry it was at the US Open was at Hubble Beach that that that year. So it's like seven is like an infamous like beautiful par three right by the ocean. I'm like, all right, I'm going to get it on the green, right? Put it right in the ocean the first ball. I said Mulligan, give me another ball. They didn't want to do it. I said, I don't care. Tough. Put the ball back on, went to the right, sliced it way on the other, like almost hit somebody. It was, I mean, it was just an absolute crap show. Like no one wanted. But then I did the Genesis open and I was on point. Like, I was just killing the ball.

I was doing great. I was feeling good. I felt the audience. You never know what you're going to get on these sort of situations. As long as there's no casualties, I think you take that as a plus, right? With that many people, that many eyeballs on you,

with just a guy who doesn't really know where the ball's going, like us, I mean, that if I played 18 holes in a pro am, if I'm walking out of there and an ambulance hasn't been called, I'm saying that's a victory. To win.

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free pack of cooling and cleansing wipes oarsan alps.com slash four. You guys are telling me against. Have you got the sim twos yet? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So okay. They're cheat codes. Let's talk about this because I got I have the sim one right and I've been playing with the sim one and then I got the sim two and I swear to you,

even told like, who was I telling this to? Wells, Adams, a bachelor. Anyway, name drop. So I was like, dude, like, I am hitting the ball at least 10 to 15 yards further. Is this true for you guys as well? Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Significant difference of. What is it, though? I don't understand why that is. Like, they look almost exactly the same. Dude, they sound, it sounds so good the way it comes off of it, oh, my God. The sound is absolutely like, it sounds like ping like all it's they actually said that was a 12 sound engineers they brought in or 11 sound engineers they brought in to make sure that it was the perfectly crafted sound when you hit it on

the sweet spot i mean they they brought they broke it down for us the aerodynamics it's a little bit different the weight distribution is a little bit different and it really is like i have people messaging me at crazy like how do i get a sim two is like i need to get in there can i put it on my new shaft all this stuff like it is the the must have golf club of 2021 the reason why i i i i brought his name up is because we were having a conversation and he had the Sim 1 and I had the Sim 2. I'm left handed. He's right handed. And I was like, you have to get the Sim 2. You don't understand. He goes, yeah,

I haven't thinking about it, but I got the Sim 1. It's almost the same thing. I go, uh-uh. No, no, listen to this. And then you can hear it. And then like, I like, so at our golfing, at our driving range, like we have a fence that's about 300 yards. And I can never hit it to the fence. Now I'm hitting in the like, I'm hitting the fence. Wow.

And I'm like, I'm hitting like, so if I hit it really well and the sweet spot perfectly, I can get 300. I can definitely get 300. It's going to be on a bounce, but I can get 300. But it, that's them too, baby. That thing's a weapon. It's a fucking weapon. It's awesome. It is awesome.

So the, you've obviously been doing reality TV a long time. You've got the show on USA, Miz and Missy. You got your little, you know, you got the logo behind you on the screen there. what's it like do you as somebody on you know with cameras around all the time you just kind of mentioned that like when you're when you're trying to play golf and there's people watch it and how difficult that could be because part of you just numb now to having cameras around and have it in your whole life film yeah I mean I ever since I was on the real world that was on the real world in 2001 20 years it's been 20 years since I've been on TV when people said I was going to have 15

minutes of fame. I turned it into 20 years. So yeah, I mean, it's actually natural and normal. Like, I've always enjoyed doing reality television, especially now when I have control of it. You know, with Ms. and Mrs. This is, this is mine and my wife's show. This is our baby. This is what we look at and we go, what's going on in our lives? How can we showcase our real day-to-day lives behind the scenes and still make it entertaining fun and, you know, relatable for everyone to watch. And I think we really do that. Like I don't look at our show, even though it is a reality show, I don't look at it as a reality show. I look at it in the realms of the office, Seinfeld, Kirby Enthusiasm, those type of shows. And I know that's like, well, dude, you're basically

putting yourself in the greatest comedies in the history of comedy. Yeah. And if you have your own show, you should be aiming for that type of comedy. And I think we do have those laugh out loud moments. moments. And this is a family comedy for the entire family to watch and enjoy. And last episode, I took my wife golfing and I don't know about you guys, but my wife's never golf before. And when you take someone that's never golf before and doesn't know all the rules and regulations that you have, it's kind of an interesting situation you put in. Like my wife got up to the T-box and just starts yelling for. And I'm like, why are you doing this? Because I saw it in the movie once. I go, can you stop joking, just hit the ball? And then she goes hit the ball and misses the ball completely.

So I'm standing in front, we're standing with two guys that, like, are part of the country club. And I'm like, I'm sorry, guys, she's just having fun. This is enjoyable. Like, she'll throw the ball. Like, I'm like, that's a two-stroke penalty, babe. She goes, I don't give, I don't care. How many strokes? You can take 50 strokes.

I don't care. I'm throwing it. Now, yeah, I like the way you guys are incorporating, like, real life things. Like, you know, you guys have a pregnancy scare. You have your mom's deciding to date. You got country club stuff. It's, it is stuff that, you know, families deal with. it is cool to see that you guys are so open and honestly been on a date in like 15 years i would say

so she's kind of out of the game so to put her and marjo back in the game especially in a game that i'm not aware of anymore because i've been out of the game for like seven years right so i don't know this whole sliding into people's dms i don't know about swipe and left swipe and right i don't i've never dealt with any type of online dating or anything like that so i'm kind of out of the loop. Maurice is out of the loop. And Marjo and my mom are just going at it, full on head of steam. And I don't want to hear about it, to be honest with you. I get that. I mean, yeah, it's, that's just real life. You know, you built a man cave. What's in the man cave? Man cave? Well, I don't have a, I don't have a nice cooler, water cooler like you

have. But I have a refrigerator filled with beer. I get, you know, pizza all the time in there. Video games. I have a drum set. You know, it's just, it's decorated to a tea. You know, nice car posters. Like, it's almost like I'm a teenager, but I'm a grown-ass man in a man cave. So that's what it's in there.

You know, you know, a little expensive bottles of whiskey. Let's go. Oh, yeah. It is, it is cool, man, because we, reality TV is all over the place now, right? has been for 20, 25 years, Batchew, where we do a bunch of stuff. Trent's a huge bachelor guy. And like, you know, a lot of these personalities, they, they come out. They're on a show for however many, uh, episodes.

They grow a little bit of a social following. But then it's the grind of like they all want to stay in it. They all want to stay relevant, grow their kind of careers in entertainment. And you've actually done it. So like, how did you, like, what did you do differently that you were able to go from, like you said, what everybody claimed would be 15 minutes of fame? to here we are 20 years later, WWE superstar, you've got your own show with the wife.

How are you able to be different than a lot of these characters that tried to make it? I don't know if I'm different. It's just the way that I work. And the way I work is when I was on a reality show and I created the character called The Miz back in 2001 on the real world, I went back to Cleveland, Ohio,

and I asked myself, what do I want to do with my life? Do I want to go back to Miami, Ohio, and still be in college for business, which I didn't really like. And I said, no, I want to be a WW superstar. Okay, what does it take to be a WW superstar? All right, I think I'm going to move to Los Angeles. I'm going to find a wrestling school that teaches me our professional wrestling.

What else is involved? Acting. You got to be a good actor. And I know people are like, you have to be a good actor. Improv skills. You got to have improv skills. So I had an acting coach. I had an improv.

I would Improv Olympics and Groundlings. And then I had a new job. nutritionist that I got for $100 a month because I was poor and the guy was helping me out. And then my trainer was like just helping me and doing me a favor was kind of one of my friends. So I had all these elements. Now, I wasn't, W.W wasn't calling. WW wasn't there. But I was trying to figure out how do I gain all the tools for whenever the opportunity

presents itself, I will be ready. So I'm always looking like two notches above. You know what I mean? Like I'm always thinking two steps ahead. And I'm preparing for things that might not ever come. Never. They might not. But I'm preparing for them because I know that if it does present itself, I'm ready.

I'm always ready. Hell yeah. People don't realize it takes like what it fucking takes, right? to break through to make it, you'll be ready. Watch the WW24 on Peacock. It's a documentary about my entire career. It's called WW24 The Miz. If you watch that, you could see, like, kind of how I've been able to literally go from,

you know, the reality show to WWE, to executive producing my own reality show, to doing movies, to doing hosting. Like, when I was on WWE, nobody wanted me there. Everybody wanted me to go away. They hated me. They couldn't stand me. I was an outsider coming from a reality background. I don't deserve to be there, you know, with all these, you know, six, five, three hundred pounds of pure solid muscle guys.

I'm six one. I'm two, two, five right now, pure solid muscle. But still, it's not big for, for WWE standards. And so, you know, I had to really, you know, pave my own way. And so I, I would go to the talent relations and go, hey, if there's anything that nobody wants to do, I'll do it. And at the time, it was like 6 a.m. media calls. So we would be in like some city on Sunday, drive. We'd do a show, get done with that show at about 11 p.m., drive about three hours to the next city.

And the next, and I would have to be up at 6 a.m. Now, mind you, I went to bed at 3 because that's when I would get into the town. And at 6 a.m., I would be up to do media until 2 p.m. And the way I looked at it was not only am I showcasing to the media world that who I am and telling people that might be. not know who I am to actually know who I am, but also I'm gaining traction in promos. Like I get to cut promos. This is a promo right here.

Like I cut promos each and every day, you know, on these sort of situations. So it's helping me practice. So I'm always thinking, okay, how can I get better? How can I be the biggest star I could possibly be? Well, I'm sweating tears, man. That's what it takes. It's wildly impressive, man. That's why he doesn't have that much drive after being that success.

for, right? Like, is there no, like, is there no, like, is there no, golf game would be better. Right. Seriously. Why are you not applying this to the links? Well, I guess you are. You said you see the teacher. I am applying it. I am applying. It's too fucking hard, man. I am, I am, I am, I am grinding. I'm grinding on the, on the range every day. Like, my back hurts nonstop. I just cannot figure it out. I cannot hit the damn ball straight. This is kryptonite is the golf course. Of course. All of us, all of us, man. Well, look, we really appreciate it. You've done an amazing job. And just like you said, over 20 years growing from what a lot of people would say. And most people do have that kind of are in your position. 15 minutes of fame, a quick bit on a show. You're famous for a little while. And then people fade. And here you are 20 years later being really successful in everything but golf. So you've done a phenomenal job. We appreciate the time. The show, Ms. and Misses, which you get to, you. You know, it's kind of your, you know, I can tell.

It's your baby, like you said. You guys put all your thought, your time, your energy into it and doing it your way. And keep up the good work. Thank you very much. Yeah, check out Ms. and Misses on the USA Network 11 p.m. Immediately following Monday Night Rawls. So you get to watch me on Rawl and then you get to watch me on Ms. and Mrs. And WW24 is on Peacock.

It's streaming right now. So definitely don't miss any of those. I've got a lot of things going on. What can I say? Busy guy. That's how you should be, man. That's a good sign. Exactly. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Thanks for the time. And your lighting, you looked great. So we really appreciate it. Thank you. I do my best. I don't lay up off the tea. I just want that confirmed. And go drink out of your water cooler. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Do you like sit there and be like, boys, boys, let's all go stand by the water cooler and everyone have a conversation about their golf game. Well, hey, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, Listen, bro, the reality is that this fucking camera is like a wide angle now, and I don't know how to fix it to, like, just get me in it. And I have water there because my face is exploding from all the sodium I eat. So I'm trying to drink more water. This isn't supposed to be in frame, and I actually just noticed it as we were talking. So I don't fucking do a little water cooler joke.

It's in frame. It's super in frame. All I'm doing is veering and looking at your water cooler. It drinks a lot of water. Actually, you don't drink a lot of water because that thing's full. I just replaced it to miss. At least yours is a little better. At least you don't have a fan.

You know, I don't know. Hey, fan in your background. I mean, honestly, come on. What's wrong with a fan? You have a fan in your background. Dude, we're not polished, man. We're Barcelona sports. We fucking do shit in our mom's basement.

Sports is a huge entity. I'm turning my camera off. I don't want to see what. Do Trent next. Do Trent next. You all of your fucking. A little bit. To have some fun on the internet, that's where people go.

And then they sit there and go to this podcast. One guy's got a freaking water cooler. The other guy, he's a ceiling fan. The other guy, I don't know what those pictures are. Oh, my goodness. That's Haley Williams from Paramore and Led Zeppelin. All right. Well, you know what's amazing, though, is that you do guys, you guys do have good microphones.

At least you have good microphones because that's all that really matters, right? We just got these two. We used to just sound like real assholes. I knew it. I knew you just got because they looked, Brad. new by the way brand new look at these things they're just shining all right man thank you man good luck with everything good luck with the show we appreciate it appreciate it appreciate it see you guys thanks dude