Fore Play - The Slaughter at Bay Hill & The Dadbod Classic at Pebble Beach
Episode Date: March 10, 2020Riggs & Lurch return from the 2020 Dadbod Classic and recap the week at Pebble Beach, Spyglass Hill & Spanish Bay. After, we react to Bay Hill including Bryson’s thoughts on how “the physics stopp...ed working,” discuss the PGA considering a move from Harding Park in San Francisco to TPC Sawgrass in Florida due to Coronavirus, PLAYERS Championship week, at what age will Tiger Woods not be able to compete at the Masters, how many golf balls we’ve lost our careers, and MUCH more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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It's Players Championship Week, TBC Sawgrass.
I'm going to say six, I think the Rider Cup's ahead of it, and it's a Rider Cup year.
Four majors, Rider Cup.
Then you always get a week or two sprinkled in and end up being bigger because things happen,
like when Tiger Woods won the Tour Championship at East Lake.
So you never know.
But one of the bigger weeks, top six big weeks in all of golf this week.
So it's an exciting time to be alive.
New York City where the temperature and the coronavirus cases are both up.
So it's a weird time to be alive.
But if you're a golf fan, it's a very exciting time to be alive.
I think it was almost 70 degrees today in New York City.
Lurch is wearing shorts today.
People were out golf and seeing a lot of Instagrams.
Also, we're getting tagged in Instagrams left and right of folks out on the golf course.
It's March.
The clocks, they sprung forward.
So it's awesome.
My dad golf today.
Really?
How do you think he played?
I got a text message at 1-24.
and I tweeted this too.
He just wrote playing Eisenhower with a smiley face.
So, wow, that's very nice.
During the day, he got out, playing, you know, getting some fresh air playing.
What was your response to him now?
Wasn't wow.
So I said, I wrote, wow, how are you playing?
Is the course in good condition?
And he wrote, use the spin doctor in the sand trap with a smiley face and a thumbs up.
We, uh, that means he's living.
We played with a buddy who's got the square strike this weekend.
I tried it out.
It's weird.
You didn't like it?
He had some good shot.
I watched him hit some good shots with it.
It's weird a dress.
It just looks a little funky.
Yeah.
And it comes off.
I mean,
it's a bump and it's,
it just bumps it up there.
The ball perfectly like goes off the club face though, right?
It does.
It always goes up.
And you got to,
you got to guess the bounces right.
I mean,
it bounces through the rough and stuff.
You can't like fly into the green and spin it.
No,
you can't.
You just bump it up through the crap.
Which is an older man style of play?
It's,
it's, uh,
every man 55 plus should just have to happen.
My dad loves a bum and run.
Totally.
It takes a five iron from like 30 yards out.
Let me show you how to hit this.
Let me show you how to hit this.
It's like, all right.
But then I argue with them and then I just bled away.
Oh, very nice.
That's nice of you.
Happy birthday,
thank you.
Thank you.
Happy birthday, man.
It doesn't feel particularly special, no.
31.
Oh, no, that's kind of a blob birthday.
Well, I feel better about it.
I feel better about 31 than 30.
30 was I was still like, man, I can't believe my 20s are over.
31.
I'm a 30-year-old now.
I thought turning 30 was very relieving.
I feel that way about 31.
Is that right?
30, I had some anxiety about leaving my 20s.
Well, now you're the most famous person in Iowa.
I'm up there.
People were actually kind of debunking the shit out of that.
Yeah, there were some I was 24th or like.
Okay.
Still, very high.
I just flew out of Iowa and all I could think about was you.
Yeah.
And how potentially you're a top 25 most famous person in Iowa.
I'm definitely up there.
It just depends on what lists you go by.
We had you at like six.
That's too high.
Yeah.
But I'd say top 30.
But then some of the list that I saw, like there were people on there that I didn't even know.
And I'm from there.
Right.
But yeah, birthday 31.
Like I said, I feel good about it.
I don't, birthdays aren't that special to me, but it's like.
Can you eat a little cupcake tonight?
John Fidelberg.
He doesn't eat one cupcake.
John Fidelberg, who we work with, dropped like a brick-sized brownie off in my desk earlier.
I smashed that thing.
You already polished it off?
Oh, yeah.
Within 15 minutes.
What's your go-to dinner, your birthday dinner tonight?
Steak.
Wow.
I like getting a steak.
Do you?
I used to get a steak back when I, it's harder.
now because I'm not going to go to like a steakhouse
in New York City
yeah but like I used to go back home I would just go to
like a local restaurant and get a steak
I did that in Chicago entire I went to a steakhouse by myself
it's it's not bad
shit at the bar though no
I said to him that's crazy that's
psychopath behavior that's like
you said in a white table cloth
steakhouse I assume
and dinner by herself
man it was awesome that is
certifiable why
that is certified why don't look and see if they should call
the police.
We live in a society
where people go to the movies by themselves.
Correct.
I think going to a restaurant ordering steak
What's the difference?
There's just a difference.
There just is.
What do you mean?
There just is.
Oh,
what are you some restaurant snob now?
I thought we're in a world
where you're supposed to be able
to just enjoy yourself.
No.
If you're at a bar.
The restaurant's different.
If you're solo,
you go to bar.
You got to have structure
at a restaurant
that people start dying.
No one's dying on golf courses.
All right.
Let's stop.
The buckens right there.
The restaurant needs to have rules
and regulations.
It's a fucking restaurant.
We're supposed to not be interacting
with each other because we're going to be transmitting diseases.
If I go alone, it's actually safe.
My point being that there's got to be rules and regulations to restaurants.
That's why I like, and I'll be a very stingy person when it comes to a restaurant sitting.
If you're a side sitter, I think you're a crazy person.
You know, if you have a booth and you both sit on the same side, it's like...
Unless there's a TV.
Who are you trying to murder.
Right.
TV.
To me it feels like you're trying to corner like the person you're waiting.
I was in a, it was a half booth, half regular chair table.
I didn't know where to sit.
So I'm sitting in the booth.
I'm just looking out of the restaurant by myself, but I'm just looking out of the restaurant
by myself, but I'm sitting in the chair, then it looked like I'm constantly waiting for somebody
to come back from the restroom.
Yep.
It was a weird.
It was a little weird.
At least you know.
Now you've come around.
Well, no, I'm saying that like being alone was strange.
I wouldn't have.
I love sitting at a bar by myself.
I've done it.
I've done it by the apartment.
I sit there.
I'll eat a steak.
I'll have a case of D or whatever.
You sit at the bar.
It's like what the bar was meant for.
Yes.
The place didn't have a, you know, they didn't have a bar.
It was like a nice white tablecloth.
It wasn't like a bar.
It didn't have a bar.
I didn't have a bar.
Keynes, great little pre-rangers game environment.
They've got the bar.
They all sat there.
I'll say this about Keynes.
You always say we go there for pre-rangers.
We go there.
There's like a three-hour wait to get a tape.
Sometimes you can get right in.
That just happened once.
I'm still a fan of Keynes.
Sometimes.
When's the last time you got in to Keynes?
Earlier this year.
No, it is.
Went with my dad and Clint.
Before a Ranger game?
Yep.
You guys sat down and had a dinner?
Sat down and had a dinner.
When we tried to go that one time, it was a legit three-hour.
I don't know what it was.
It was a Ranger game.
That was what was going on.
We got a lot to talk about, folks.
We got Bay Hill.
It was carnage fucking everywhere.
I think only four players finished under par.
Weaning score was four under.
That's, like, significantly higher than a lot of major championships.
Doubles everywhere.
Every time you turn on the TV, somebody was throwing the club, hitting it in a drink.
Squares all over the scorecard.
It was awesome.
We got that to break down.
We got players championship to break down.
We were out at Pebble Beach for Dad Bot Classic.
We got that to break down, especially because Frankie was invited.
was supposed to be there and then wasn't.
Coronavirus has a potential move of the PGA championship from Harding Park to TPC Sawgrass.
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So Barstool Classic, too, I've got to talk about that.
Registration, pre-registrations open.
Half the venues have sold out already during pre-registration.
Tuesday, which is when this podcast comes out,
you can go to Barstall Classic.com starting at noon eastern,
and you can register for the Oat.
We still got a bunch of venues that are open.
So you can jump on there, grab a teammate,
grab a partner and play in the Barstel Classic.
If you advance, you will play in the championship event at Pinehurst in November.
It's November 13th, 14th, 15th, culminating at Pinehurst, number two, U.S. Open Course, major championship venue.
Very cool stuff.
Go to Barstall Classic.com.
Crazy how fast I sold out.
Stunning.
Long Island showed up.
Cherry Valley sold out in three minutes.
It sold out about three minutes.
I got a text from my guy, Cherry Valley goes, I can't believe, like, what's going on, like, three minutes.
Place sold out.
In pre-sale.
Pre-sale.
It's not even open in the general.
There's a hundred and eight spots, something like that?
Yeah, 54 teams of two.
So we reserve a handful of them for, you know, what we might need to do with them.
But outside of that, yeah, we sold, you know, 40 or so teams.
Isn't that crazy?
And it's only pre-sale.
It's people who played last year and people who are Barstool Gold members are the only folks that had access today.
And it sold out in, I think about four or five venues sold out in under 10 minutes.
Tomorrow, noon, it goes on, or today, when you guys are listening, it goes on sale for all.
There's still plenty of spots in the places where we weren't at last year.
I've been tweeting out a lot of the updates, but L.A.
Scottsdale, Denver, Houston, St. Louis, the Louisiana and Mississippi stops.
Denver location is outrageous.
Arrowhead is one of the more visually stunning course.
I've never actually heard of the golf course.
I looked it up because that's one of the legs I really want to make it out to.
I've got some family friends out there.
It'd be a nice weekend to get out to Denver.
I love Colorado, one of my favorite places in the world.
So I'm excited to go to that one.
And when I saw Arrowhead, I was like, how the fuck did we book this place?
Dude, it's like riding the kind of edge of the mountains there.
It's got crazy.
They're crazy, like, red rocks.
They're jagged.
It's really, really cool.
That's what I would, like, travel to if you're not in the Colorado area.
Like, you're like, oh, let's go to this awesome mountainous golf course in Denver.
Anyone upset that we're not coming to their backyard, basically?
There are a lot of folks, especially up in Canada.
People are bummed that we're not going to Toronto.
A lot of folks are booking a trip to Arizona.
booking a trip to Denver,
booking a trip to LA.
Book a vacation around it.
Why wouldn't you?
And that's why we try to target as close to weekends as we can,
Fridays, Mondays, a few Thursdays in there when we need to
so that, you know, people can kind of make a whole weekend out of it.
Marshall Classic.com.
We got all the information on there.
Selling out quickly, but there's still plenty of spots.
Flights are cheap.
COVID-19.
Flights are so cheap right now.
So cheap.
Jared Karavis went down to Tampa Bay to interview a baseball player.
and his flight was $16.
Shut up.
Yep.
That's not a real number.
It is.
A real number.
Confirmed.
When did he buy them?
I will say, don't put this stuff on Lurcher's radar because he has missed or beat the airline guy who, I mean, he has tried every gimmick, every plan.
He's rolled out every playbook you can imagine.
He tries to wait until like four hours before our whole trip that we've had booked for a year to book his flights finally.
And boy, does it catch up with him.
I'm pretty sure they, like, booked a guess and they're like, let's get down.
on the tomorrow or something like that.
I mean, lucky for you, you don't, this isn't your plan.
This is just a virus going around.
So it's like, it's going to work.
This is your time to shop.
This is my time to shot.
And that is accurate.
I do wait.
I buy flights like taxi caps.
And I understand it shouldn't bother us, but that does infuriate.
It is infuriating.
Doesn't bother me at all.
You think you've beaten the system.
And that's what makes me mad.
Thank you.
You haven't beaten the system.
So in my heart of heart, I know that I've done.
For you to be wrong, yes.
In a big way.
But every so often you get them.
No, you don't.
You never get them.
I want a couple times.
Never do you get them.
I want a couple times.
By what, though?
Is it worth the stress?
See, it doesn't stress me out at all.
Oh, my God.
That's a lie.
It doesn't.
He'll do this thing where we're on the trip.
And it's like Saturday.
We're going home Sunday.
He'll be like, hey, what's your flight info again for tomorrow?
I got to book a flight.
I'm like, wait.
We're going on the trip.
No, I'm actually okay with that because it doesn't affect me.
Like I would be, I get that what they're saying is that you stress me out.
Yeah, no.
You're around it.
Really?
Yeah.
Me too.
You haven't booked your flight?
I am weak.
I'll always be weak.
No, me too.
You know, as I'm a comment on you want to talk about looks.
You don't look that great today.
I'm tired.
You look tired.
If we're going to be honest, you look like shit.
You know, some days you come in.
I'm like, oh shit.
Lurchil looks really.
FaceTime.
And she was like, you don't look well.
No.
And I was.
You shower didn't take this morning.
I believe that.
I mean, I don't feel great right now.
I also think I could use a sweat.
So this past weekend, when we'll talk about it, we're out of Bebble.
We might as well get into it.
Sure.
I'm not, I should not eat dairy.
I had dairy for every meal.
And let me tell you, I feel horrible.
When you were talking about your favorite desserts,
the one of the last dinners, we had, they came out with this dessert that was like this bread
with this cream stuffed in it, but also with like rum in there.
And I just couldn't get my hands off these things.
We had 30 bottles of wines.
Sorry.
And then when I woke up the next one, I couldn't breathe.
And I still am having trouble breathing right now.
So I got to get a workout in.
Yeah.
Too much dessert.
Just too much dairy.
I was killing dairy for every meal.
He's stumping his face with dairy and going, I'm not supposed to eat dairy.
Oh, he's stuffing his face with dairy.
And you could literally milk him.
You could.
Right now, I'm in about, I got to get a workout in the night.
You're going to go to the gym with your hypochondriac ass.
You're going to get inside a gym where people sweating all over the place?
100%.
Really?
I have to.
I feel awful right now.
I also can't really breathe that well.
You're going to come down with the corona.
No, no, no, no.
You should see the way I clean myself these days.
I don't want to ever, under any circumstances.
The flight we were on yesterday, we talking about flights?
I mean, we show up to the airport, no one in the airport.
We get on the plane, no one on the plane.
We land in Newark, nobody at Newark.
It was scary.
Terrifying. It was I am legend-esque.
Yes, it's all I can think about.
We all had our own row on a flight.
On a Sunday, too.
A 4 p.m. flight from San Francisco to New York City.
Like, everyone's on that flight.
There was like, I would say 20% of the plane was full.
There was no one on it.
It might have been less than that.
It was weird.
It was eerie.
Dude, we got to the gate.
You know how they do the thing?
Like, oh, boarding will start 45 minutes before your flight.
Yeah.
You're like, all right, I'll get there like 20 minutes before the flight and it'll still be on like group two.
We got there, no joke, like probably 35 minutes before the flight.
Yeah.
Not a single soul was left in line.
Everyone was seating and there was no one.
Like, you just walked.
You didn't have to wait in the, um, the little fucking, uh,
terminal thing. What's the little, I'm thinking of the tunnel?
Gateway. The gateway? The gateway? The gateway. You have to wait in the gateway. Jetway.
You have to wait in the line. Didn't have to wait in the jetway. Didn't have to wait in the aisle on the plane. You just walk directly to sit down. Everyone's like, yeah, no, this is it. We're just ready to go.
It was so weird. Somebody told me there that's so bad that they're just flying basically ghost planes across the country. So I heard about this. So in order to nobody on them. So the pilot and nobody else. So I guess. But apparently you like, if you don't, like if you're an airline and you're taking off, this is like your.
time to go every single day.
If you don't do that, you lose your spot.
So they have to be taking these flights off, regardless of there's people on them or not.
There's like an annual assessment that says like United missed this flight.
So now like American Airlines can bid on it and take that flight.
So then you lose market ship.
So then they just have to fly these planes with no one on.
Also you would assume that that plane, let's say it goes from Jacksonville to New York,
it's going to take people from New York to Jacksonville also, right?
Isn't it the same plane?
So if it doesn't go to New York.
Yeah, or whatever.
Yeah, but they need planes in certain areas to fulfill the next flight.
I got a notification.
Today from JetBlue, that was like I have a flight I have booked in like two months.
That was like, oh, yeah, there's been a change to your flight due to the coronavirus and all this and that.
My flight is supposed to get in at like 11 p.m.
And now it just gets in at like 5 p.m.
I'm like, no, I just can't do that now.
That's not.
You're changing to a degree that I can't match.
No, I bought it for this time.
Not even close to like what I can be.
Why do you wait?
You don't book early.
It's a perfect example.
Why don't book early?
even have an option. They're like, no, this is just what's happening.
I like the ball of George's argument is like, you didn't see Crohn's virus coming?
How did you not see that happening? I do. I feel like a total moron. So the dabodd
classic, you know, we spoke a little bit about it beforehand. And I would say now this has been my
second year participating in this tournament. This has to be the single greatest
buddy's golf trip invite that a human being can receive. Our buddy Josh, who is the nicest
guy in the world, very successful guy, phenomenal golfer. He's like a plus point.
5 handicap now, played lights out golf all week, huge stoolie, loves bar stool, and loves
buddies golf trips.
And he's the most generous man in the world.
And he basically decided, like, two years ago, I'm going to put together a golf trip
in my favorite place in the world, which is Monterey Peninsula.
We play Pebble, we play Spyglass, we play Spanish Bay.
We all stay at the end at Spanish Bay.
He books a ton of it and sets it up so they mostly just have to fucking show up.
We got private rooms booked at Pebble at the Inn at Pebble, or the,
the lodge at Pebble like overlooking Stillwater Cove.
That was where we had like our opening dinner.
We play the three golf courses that I just mentioned.
It is like out of a dream that this golf trip exists.
And we just got to like go on it.
Now I...
You guys sleeping with the sky.
What's going on?
There's tension in the room because Frankie again was supposed to go on the trip.
Yeah, I just ignore everything he said.
It didn't.
It was 30,000 times better than I ever could have imagined.
Yeah, it's tough because I was watching you guys Instagram stories and it looked
fucking phenomenal.
The weather looked perfect.
The only thing I will say, there was one time that I looked at it.
And I think it was like 8.45 hour time.
And you guys were on the golf course.
It was like 6 o'clock in the morning.
And I said, right now in this moment, I'm glad I'm laying down in my bed.
Because I was a little hungover.
I just went out the night before.
And I felt like trash.
And I'm like, boy, oh boy, if I had to go hit a golf shot right now, I wouldn't be able to do it.
So I put out a little, like, selfie video.
Horrible.
I got so many comments saying exactly.
that from people under the world.
You actually made this once in a lifetime trip
look bad because of how bad
you look. I was like, thank God I'm not
there right now because look at this guy.
But then obviously, like, as the day went
on, it was perfect. What a pathetic look
you had on that. I was beat up. I mean, it was early.
So is that something that Josh needs to
rearrange? There was talk of that. There is. These early
tea times are. I'm talking for the birds. For the birds.
These were preposterous tea times.
What time am we talking? Don't, you don't.
One day our line went off is 540.
That's crazy.
That's not enjoyable.
That's Rick saying that.
Who is a guy, you don't go on vacation, you want golf trips.
I coined the phrase.
Yes.
And you're always like, let's get up as early as we can.
Let's get out there so we can get a couple rounds.
Not get up as early, but usually, you know, in order to get 36 holes in, you need to play
relatively early.
That's not what this is supposed to be about.
This is supposed to be about, like, enjoying that one main round.
A couple guys might, you know, spin around.
One round that day you guys played.
One round.
And you're waking up 540.
Sometimes we play twice.
That's nuts.
That's, it was nuts.
Now, you gotta get a breakfast in you.
Well, wake up, drink some orange juice, maybe a mimosa.
Right there with you.
Walk outside, like maybe have an 1130 tea time.
That's perfect.
So, I'm not taking anything away from Josh because the way he sets this thing up.
No, you can take it away from Josh.
Well, we'll get to that too because I heard that things ended a little.
The pebble.
Josh told me to say something.
That day I didn't, I mean, I went to the range and I didn't have breakfast.
I didn't hit the ball that well at Pebble.
I made the change the next day.
Everybody was waking up early, going to the range.
hitting balls again i said screw that no way i'm going to the range i just went right to the breakfast
uh had a nice breakfast got a belly belly full yep and uh played much better than the last day i mean
we had tea times it's seven 10 one day that's unacceptable it is i learned that it's because josh
you know and also josh not a big drinker doesn't really drink much and yeah they got kids so a lot
of the half the crew's got like kids so they're used to be up at like 5 a m that's like when
their days start oh no no no i told them i go my alarm for work days
goes off at like 830.
Right.
You're telling me,
we're,
we're teeing off at 710.
So I'm going to play Pebble Beach at 710.
That means I want to be up.
I want to have entered my day.
Right.
That takes time.
Coffee.
I might have to use the restroom.
I want to eat a little something.
Stretch out.
Say hi to some folks.
Get my brain firing.
And in order to get all that done,
540 alarm.
It was nuts.
And we were up drinking the night before.
I mean,
what is that?
It's not even a real time.
No.
I hear you and everyone hears you.
Champagne problems at the end of the day.
Correct.
But we are here to just.
discuss champagne problems.
Okay, yeah.
And I'm going to discuss it.
Okay.
I'm glad you mentioned that, Frankie.
That was a preposterous thing that we had.
That was my only complaint about the entire dad by class.
That was my only note I had.
Because the golf courses, the golf courses are so impeccable.
The golf courses are.
Undescribably nice.
How was that walk up six?
Man, I made birdie on six.
You made birdie on six.
What did you do on eight?
What did you do on eight?
Double.
Yeah.
That's a hard all.
I hit a great ball out there and top the one that just made it over.
Really?
I made a disappointing boge.
Ooh, can't wait for that video.
Yeah, you're going to be excited about that one.
Oh, boy.
I was in prime position, too, and I was chirping the shit out of you.
And then I didn't get you.
So you were the defending champion going into this.
We're defending.
So it's a six-on-six tournament.
We do two rounds of two-on-two four ball.
And I know Josh has been.
He's texting Frankie.
And all Frankie can do is smile and turn around his phone and just show you, I've got something.
Frank got to worry.
I've got a reply.
I've got text messages.
Right, right.
Frank, he's going to be the Josh, like, propaganda.
Does Josh deserve a voice?
Answer the question.
Is he on the podcast?
No, he doesn't deserve a voice.
Does he deserve a voice for putting on this fucking term?
Yes, but him putting it through you is disgusting.
Well, I would like to think that we will justifiably give him the voice, you know, through us.
Let me set it up.
It's six on six.
We do two rounds of two on two four ball and then Sunday singles.
Now, the way that it ended this year,
was in a chip-off, and that might sound ridiculous because it is.
But last year, people have to understand that we had a situation where we also tied 6-6 at the end of the whole thing.
And we won because there are like three guys that go on the trip who don't play any golf.
And we decided that we were going to settle a potential tie-breaker after Friday night dinner on the putting green at Pebble under the lights between the guys that don't play golf.
We weren't even part of the trip.
And I think they're raised part of the trip.
They don't play golf.
They're not part of the golf within the trip, but they go on it.
And so we had the big dinner last year on Friday night.
We got, you know, a bunch of wine.
Everybody's having a good time.
Some people were a little, you know, cooked up by the time we get to 10 or 11 p.m.
Walk out of the tap room at Pebble.
We had this little putting contest in front.
The guy that was representing our team won.
One of the guys in the other team was wearing two leather gloves.
Like it was a nightmare watching these guys put around.
And our guy ended up winning.
Well, two days later on Sunday afternoon, we had an epic comeback where you're down
5-1. We ended up tying the whole thing 6-6, but we had won the tiebreaker Friday night,
so we won the trophy. A little bit of an anti-climactic way to do it, but it ended with great
drama. We won. I rubbed it in Josh's face for an entire year straight. It was a beautiful thing.
I carried the trophy everywhere we went at Pebble this past weekend. It was excellent.
Fast forward to this week yesterday, and we're coming down, Sunday singles. It was 3-3 going
into Sunday singles. The matches are really looking like they're in our favor all day long.
came down to the 18th hole in the middle group,
and one of our guys, he needed to have the hole,
and he ended up being in pretty good shape,
kind of struggled around the green.
They end up coming out with a huge win on the hole
to tie the entire thing.
So then we had decided, and people had to catch flights.
It was very rushed.
Let's just do like a quick chip-off.
All 12 people were going to hit a chip.
Closest single chip wins the whole thing.
That's what we did.
Their guy, Tim, who actually lurched played and beat pretty handedly,
came back from the grave and hit a chip.
to like three feet phenomenal chip
and then it went in the whole thing.
So the text message I got
was out of nowhere, right?
So the last message I had gotten from Josh
we had talked about how I couldn't make the fucking trip
and it was horrible and I apologize for him
for even inviting someone that has such a weak
backbone and brain like me
where I can't stand up for myself and do things
and do my own thing in my life.
That was the right thing to say.
Then he sent me all these videos of Carter Buford
because we said he's a huge Dave Matthews fan
which I think, what was it?
A hundred and eighty shows.
I have to, at one point I said 850, which is just like 162.
Okay, I could be wrong again.
Still a ton.
Anyway, so the first text message I get after this whole trip had ended was yesterday at 4.50 p.m.
I get a text that says, Team Isner won in a chip off.
Riggs is all capitals, furious that a tie didn't mean his team would retain the cup.
You got to chirp him once you see him when he gets back.
See you out here next year.
So then I said, well, I'm sure that all went very smoothly because I expected, I mean, man, things tying, things are fucking going crazy.
And he says that when he gets to work, you got to tell him tomorrow that you heard that I liked his feedback and from now on the winning team will retain.
Yeah, I mean, that's obviously not going to have.
Yeah, well, that's obviously not going to happen.
All right.
So why were you mad that a tie wouldn't, that what happened or what transpired wasn't correct if you guys won in a putting contest last year?
because those the putting contest the year before there was no winner like nobody had nobody owned the
trophy so we had to come up with some sort of tiebreaker right there was no one that could retain the
cup it was the first year that we were ever doing the event right in the rider cup if somebody ties
you win if you won the year before you win the rider cup right that's all you have to do is tie so my point
was like you have to when you challenge anything you have to win you have to defeat them if they have
won and they're the most recent champion and you just go out and you tie them they don't you
didn't dethrone them they remained to be the champion do you confirm or deny that you were furious
i wouldn't say i was furious i would say you're pretty upset i wouldn't say furious but he was pretty
upset you got a tendency to get spicy out there come on yes he's got a what did i'm not cap's furious
no no i wouldn't say all caps furious no no i wouldn't say all caps furious i wouldn't say all caps
that's fair but he was making points of being like it's just it'd be like if someone
What was your comment about hockey?
Like if you tie in a hockey game and you just go to the red line
and try to like pass the puck just over the goal line of the net
or something that's not really hockey or whatever?
My point is that.
And I understand the Ryder Cup thing.
But if that's going to be the layout,
it's not going to be like the right of car.
The Ryder Cup doesn't settle the first Ryder Cup ever on a putting contest
of the guy wearing two leather gloves.
Right.
And so that was my point.
If we're doing that last year,
when we were going to the airport, I told him exactly.
I was like you got under like the way it ended last year was two guys.
It's a joke.
Three guys that literally didn't take a golf swing for the individual match settled the competition on the putting green.
And so it's just for a posthous shoving it in his face.
Now here's what you have to understand.
Here's what's very different is that all of that with the putting contests and all that.
All of that was 100% mandated, created, and put into a sheet by Josh in his own brain.
He's like, this is what's happening last year.
So when that happened, we were like, okay.
So he couldn't make the argument that it was really stupid afterwards because he literally came up with the whole.
thing. Right. So we were like, well, we're just playing by the rules that you set forth.
Now, when it went forward to this, this past Sunday, I was very clearly willing to try to put my
best player, which was Lurch, out against their best player, which was Josh, and have them do a one
whole playoff on right after we finish and be like, whoever wins wins. My argument was very
simply that I don't think a chip off is representative of what golf actually is. And my analogy was
like in hockey you're not trying to like get the puck close to blue in golf like getting the
ball close to the hole is like you have to get it into the hole that's what golf is it's a very
finite like clear mission and there's a lot of different ways to do it a putting contest i would
argue is even more integrity than a chip off because like the ball either goes in the hole or it doesn't
which is what golf is right and so i was trying to argue that i thought a chip off was not a great
way to do it i presented another option which was to send my guy out against his guy he said no
we did the chip off.
Shout out to me, I made six birdies on the final round.
Holy shit.
Lurch is on the precipice of being a very, very good golfer.
Like, very good.
It was crazy.
I couldn't.
I put four shots within four feet.
Made six birdies at Pebble Beach?
No, no, no.
This was at Spanish.
Okay.
I made two at Pebble.
But like I...
So what did you shoot?
I shot 78.
And like after...
Oh, I'm doing that Antonio Banderas gift.
Dude, I felt bad.
After I beat the guy, I went, I won seven and seven and six.
And after I beat the guy, I went double, double, par double, which like threw apart my round.
And then I got it back on the rails.
But I was hitting, I hit four shots within four feet from a variety of distance.
It was like a little great.
You were nervous walking into going into this tournament.
Right.
I mean, I didn't play that great at Pebble.
And that was like the round I really was dreaming about playing really well at.
What'd you do on seven?
Made it insane up and down.
So you missed the green?
Missed the green way left.
Left of the left, eight T-box.
Yes.
And hit this flop to about 20 feet.
What club choice did you take on seven?
I think I hit.
I tried to hit a little like punch 52.
How was the weather that day?
Was it windy?
Yes.
It was windy.
It was windier than it was any day that we were at the U.S. Open.
Wow.
But it was, we got really lucky.
It was supposed to, it said legitimately the night before.
The forecast said from 6 a.m. until like 4 p.m. rain.
And we just had like cloudy, zero rain.
And like the back nine, it was just sunny the whole time.
It was crazy.
It was awesome.
So beautiful.
So it was like a part of the most like, like most beautiful holes you can even imagine.
Yeah.
You don't even understand it.
No.
And the way of the wind was coming in, some holes were just in pot.
Nine is the hardest hole in golf as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah.
I don't even.
Mine is not a real hole.
I don't even know how you play it.
I don't even know how you could potentially get there from where you start.
It's impossible.
Josh went driver,
driver,
and he couldn't get there.
On the deck?
Yeah,
he hit it in the bunker,
front bunker.
He actually,
like,
flushed it though?
I wasn't in his group,
but he said,
yeah,
he ripped it right at the pin and did like a step through and it just hit the face of the bunker.
And he made bogey.
So Josh is a fucking stick.
Josh is playing preposterous golf right now.
Like,
preposterous golf.
He's just really good.
I'm glad I was able to at least give his point on the show.
Of course.
He says now that he will take your word for it.
Which is an amazing turnaround.
You can't do that.
I mean, that's just not going to happen.
I'll fight that to my death.
Yeah.
And here we have a heated battle at tomorrow night or tomorrow next year's opening dinner.
Yeah.
Josh and I will have another heated battle.
Spicy.
Oh, yeah.
Very.
What a laugh.
That was that a trip.
I mean, Riggs is a competitive guy.
Sure is.
Very.
Was there any point that Josh playing so well and may have beaten you, gotten you more mad with the outcome, too?
he alluded to that that he says he played so well he played yeah he beat rigs on Sunday
yeah he killed me on Sunday yeah he uh I mean all week he played like he played like he
played he didn't play that well in the final round I feel like for him and he was even
par through like 14 oh I mean at pebble he doubled 18 which was a downwind part five obviously
yeah and he doubled 18 to shoot 75 we played the back team we played 7000 6900 yards
pebble so like he just was playing ridiculous call the group doesn't have an
overwhelming amount of good golfers in it, does it?
No.
Because there was a couple swings in there that were saying.
There's a couple of guys.
My partner had one of the great.
Which makes you feel better, though, at least like, like, looking at it and then like
wanting to be there, it's like if it was all guys shooting 75, 75, 74, 76s, I wouldn't
want to wake up in the morning and go there.
I'd be like, this is not fun.
It's a very welcoming group.
Like my first guy that I played with, this guy's Tenji.
He claims to be a three, and I hope he's listening because he didn't even play
close to a three handicapped.
I mean, I think his best round
might have been a 95.
He was three and out.
Yeah, and he was three and oh.
And I mean, he's fantastic.
The whole time we were just,
we were kind of grinding our first match.
I don't even know where this came from,
but we were just going,
mine melt,
mine melt, mind melt, mine melt.
Definitely came from you.
No, no, no.
It's him.
The way you did your hands,
I've like seen that.
Well, we bonded.
And then we had a great, great game.
All right, well, at least,
I'd say a lot of guys are in, like, the 80s.
All right.
And then you get like four,
three or four guys who were struggling,
Like 90s, 100.
Right.
Which out there is not horrific because of course, it's really hard and it's windy and whatnot.
But you get a few guys that can maybe shoot in the 70s.
Like, like Lurch is legit.
Lurch is by far, I would say, the best golf for the podcast.
I mean, you beat me, though, this weekend.
I beat you at Pebble.
I was playing well at Pebble.
Yeah, you had it going.
I had it going.
But like, overall, you just hit the ball wave.
Like, I'm rethinking my entire approach.
Why are you hitting these greens with such accuracy?
He hits his, he hits his, what do you hit your,
eight iron like one one seventy five he legit hits his irons preposterous distance until like four to five
feet right now you're a part four you're a terrible putter terrible but your accuracy on these greens
you're like shooting you're at 78 i had six three jacks right that's that's that's preposterous
doesn't that make you want to now go learn how to putt yeah maybe to learn how to put maybe if you
learn how to put you won't do not do as well i couldn't believe at how well i was it in the
ball so this guy who was playing with he goes by big sexy um
He's got like a...
Is he hot?
Is he good looking?
I think he's just an average guy looking.
No.
Is he gross?
No, he's not gross.
He's a big guy.
He's a big guy.
He's a big guy.
That's probably the real crux of it.
He's a big guy.
But I just took him by storm.
I mean, there was nothing he could do.
I was birding everything out of the gate.
By a lot, through 11 holes, I had four birdies.
And five net because he was giving me one stroke.
Would you just click on?
I'm sorry.
Someone talked about this picture today.
This guy, Daniel Craig, this motherfucker, James Bond.
He just put him.
up a picture in GQ. He didn't put it up, but GQ put up a picture. This guy's like 52 years old.
Look at this picture. Everyone right now is in Pockers. You got to go search Daniel Craig.
It's insane. This guy looks like he's 26 years old, ripped out of his goddamn mind.
That's the most James Bond guy I've ever seen in my entire life. Took my breath away today.
Fidelberg was talking about in the office. I couldn't believe it.
Oh, he's a sex icon. That's the one. Sex icon. Jesus.
Imagine look like that. That guy's not getting COVID-19.
You can't even get inside there.
No.
Can't infiltrate yours either, which is good.
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Yeah, Lurch's golf game is, it's impressive.
Are you confident?
Yeah, right now, I feel great.
Wow.
He just strikes his iron so well that, like, he's never not in good shape.
Right, right?
Like, yeah, if I can get off the tee, I mean, in my four-on, dude, I hit a four-iron on Spy 7, right?
Yeah, the 45 of the water.
I hit a four-iron as good as I could ever hit an iron.
And so my catty G, unreal guy, was just, he was like, I'm trying to gauge in on, like, where to, what club they give you?
Because the first hole, we were 165 out.
I hit a nine iron that I just gassed it.
And it probably went 175, flew the green.
He was like, what the hell is this?
Who is this freaking play?
So then we get to this par five, I hit a good one out there.
Literally the sprinkler head, maybe five yards behind me says $269.
And we're a little downwind, but it's not like gusty.
He goes, here's your forearm.
I go, that's not even going to get close.
He goes, just put a good swing on a forehand.
Steve, you can do it.
I ripped the best four iron I could ever hit in my life was 40 feet.
What?
Yeah.
He rips a four iron like 250 yards.
Yes.
It just went right up the right hand side.
I came in a tight little draw.
And I was the most shocked.
I hit the ball.
I go, oh, my God.
Like, it was just one of those balls that just was going.
So you're swinging hard and free.
I don't even know what's happening.
I don't even know what's happening.
I have no idea.
If I tried to swing that hard, I'd break my wrist.
I don't think I'm swinging that hard, but it's just, it's popping out of it.
Dude, just a perfect divot every time makes a nice noise.
The ball, like sales.
It's crazy.
It's like, I can't believe what's happening.
Me either.
It was fun, though.
I'm happy for you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I hope it continues.
Me too.
Stunning.
Who knows if it will.
it was nice because I might even
I have heartburned right now. I went three and I was just
brushing the ball around. God,
it's great. It was a ton.
So yeah, Dad Bod classic.
Amazing, amazing, amazing experience.
That place out there is unlike anywhere else on Earth.
That was your first time playing golf there.
You finally got to experience it.
We were talking a lot about Pebble during the whole thing.
And I don't know that anything really compares to Pebble Beach.
That stretches.
Breastaking.
Just one final note to Josh.
I will definitely accept next year.
Hopefully my situation is different.
You can't even say that.
I can't say it, but I don't.
I will say that I want to accept, but only if and only if you move those T-T-T-T-T-ins back to, like, a normal 10.
I want to, yeah, I want to know what the T-T-T-T-ins are before you ask me before I commit.
Also, it's not like Josh is in a huge drink, but a lot of the guys, you know, indulge.
And so you're beat up the next morning.
Right.
It's just.
You're in shambles next morning.
Let me set my alarm for eight.
Let me set my alarm for 830, 825, hop in a shower, take my time, you know, throw some powder on my nuts.
Go out there, walk around.
Did you guys have a balcony?
Oh, yeah.
Sit up on the balcony.
You did some towel time?
I actually didn't.
It was just too much going on.
Right.
And like the one day that I had a chance to do towel time, I was so tired I took like a 20 minute and a nap.
Right.
We were on the range.
It was so dark you couldn't even see your golf ball.
Right.
When we first got there, it was a joke.
It was pitch black.
It was crazy.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, still an unreal experience.
It's the best.
I hope your boys get to.
to experience it in the very near future, I think you will.
Tiger Woods, not playing the players championship.
I wrote, my other note I wrote is what the fuck?
I mean, stunning.
Really bad.
Really bad.
Steinberg is saying, not a concern.
Don't, don't be concerned.
That's what pisses me off about it.
Like, what do you mean it's not a concern?
Like, then you would just play.
Yep.
Right.
There's no concern.
You wouldn't be having this conversation about.
There's by definition of the situation here.
Concern.
I'm concerned.
Right.
It couldn't be more.
But it's the players.
Like,
there's risk.
It's the players.
You're Tiger Woods.
Like, even when he skips the Arnold Palmer, people are like, whoa, like he loves that.
Yeah, but Tiger plays the players.
No, that's what I mean.
I'm saying, like, the level of concern was high.
He's last couple years when he skipsed Arnold Palmer because he's won there so many times.
But the players are like, oh, he's just going to play the players for sure.
And now he's not playing.
No, he's not playing at all.
My guy, so I like KVG from who was, I believe, yeah, he's senior.
at ESPN. He's a great guy. We've hung out with him inside the ropes before tournaments.
And he tweeted out that from, I believe, like, 2014-2015, which Tiger shortly after this
had to have, like, the fusion. Steinberg said then when he pulled out of a tournament,
Steinberg said Woods didn't experience additional pain related to the nerve problems that have
forced three bag surgeries since March 2014, with the last two in fall, 2015, leading to a 16-month
absence from competitive golf and ended at the Hero World Challenge in December 2016.
He says it's not the nerve pain that's kept him.
out for so long. He says it's a back spasm
and you just can't get the spasm to calm down.
So that's where we are. So he's been saying
similar things to this that have sometimes
led to Tiger just being fine the next week
and other times led to Tiger being like
bedridden for a year and a half.
So you just don't know.
That is the real concern is that you don't
always get the most truthful
information. Tiger probably
doesn't see a ton of value in giving everyone
all the full information.
We respect the boss man. We trust
the boss man. But we're concerned.
It takes a lot of sting out of the tournament.
I'll say that.
Yes, the player's championship is great.
It's similar to Augusta and the Masters in the sense that it's a lot about the golf course,
more so than any other tournament I can think of.
Those are the two big ones by far.
You know, you think of 17.
You even think of kind of just that closing stretch, 16, 18,
the balls that we've seen go in the water there.
It's amazing.
Ricky hitting that shot, which amazingly he beat Kisner in that playoff.
And we didn't even know Kiz at the time.
So I was like rooting for Ricky, which is crazy.
easy to think about.
But Tiger not playing the players championship.
Very concerning.
Some folks are saying maybe he'll add the valspar.
The only other tournament he might really play would be the match play,
where he plays that all the time.
He loves match plays, wanted a bunch of times.
He lost to the young guy, Beer Guard, last year after beating Rory,
and then a couple weeks later won the Masters.
So you would think if he's okay, he'll play.
But, I mean, there's a real world where, like, he played two tournaments,
Tori and Riviera.
and then it's just he sucked at Riviera.
He's so bad.
Then he's just going to not play again until the master.
He was watching to play at Riviera.
Like, oh, well, he'll play a couple times before the masters
and we'll work the rust off.
Now, who knows what he's going to play?
It's concerning.
Yep, that's the word I would use.
Steinberg used it in a different way.
We're using it in a way that we are concerned.
You've got to be concerned.
Speaking of concerned,
the PGA tour and the PGA of America
are considering a contingency plan to move the PGA
from Harding Park to TBC.
Sawgrass. This is Robert
Lucitich tweeted this out, and
it's got a statement that basically, I'm
going to pull it up really quickly. But
any time that you're hearing
that they may move the PGA Championship
from
San Francisco, which is
as Jake, producer Jake, was
discussing like he's a fucking travel
expert earlier, that
you know, it's a big shipping hub and all
this, that travel. Everybody goes through San Francisco.
I guess nobody goes through fucking Jacksonville.
Oh, actually, I didn't hear that part. I did. I didn't hear that part. I did. I
I didn't hear that part of the discussion with Jake.
I didn't hear that part.
That makes sense.
I was wondering why they would move it.
I don't know anything about shipping or anything of that nature.
Well, apparently Jake knows everything there is to know about it.
But the PGA tour, well, this is the PGA of America released a statement that says we are fully monitoring this rapidly evolving situations as it relates to the 2020 PGA championship in San Francisco.
We are in close coordination and communication with representatives of San Francisco.
We'll continue to follow the guidance of state and city officials and public health authorities.
As always, the safety and well-being of the safety and well-being.
of all involved is our highest priority.
So that basically means nothing, that statement.
That's just you have to put that out there.
But old Robert here adding the bit about their discussing moving it.
He's been told that would be interesting.
It would be very interesting.
And I think it's just them covering their bases saying that they're keeping an eye on it.
There's a lot of stuff going on, like you said, the cruise ship, all that stuff.
Speaking of ships, I got a little riddle for you guys.
Come on.
Okay.
A riddle?
Yeah.
We don't do a lot of riddles on the ship.
Yeah.
So one night, a king and a queen go on a ship and they go out to sea.
And, you know, the weather is bad and it's crazy.
And they think that they can make it to the other side because they need to be there for an event.
And the ship actually goes down and sinks.
Right?
And they go down to the bottom and that's what happens.
Okay.
So who survives?
Who survives?
Take the ship out there.
Yep.
The weather's fucking insane.
rain, howling, lightning, thunder, waves, ship wrecks, goes to the bottom of the ocean.
Who survives?
I don't know.
God, I don't know.
Yeah, one more time.
All right.
So one night, a king and a queen go into a ship.
The night.
Oh.
Correct.
Did he, did they hear that?
Well done.
Correct.
I mean, I was
on the same wavelength.
Oh, well, if you tell a riddle 10 times,
obviously, you know.
Yeah, it definitely hurt you that we kept hearing it.
Yeah.
Pretty good riddle.
Would you hear that?
Tommy smokes.
I saw him on the way out, way in.
And while I'm doing this, while I have you guys,
I know we're going to get into more golf talk.
Thanks for telling you guys.
He works here.
I want to give you guys.
It'd be like I saw the receptionist.
Oh, cool.
So I want to give you guys one more,
fact. I've been given a lot of facts on this show recently last. Hey, you know, your last
one panned out. People were backing that up. About the Australia.
Mates? Yeah. Inmates? Yeah. Really. I heard people. So we're going to get it. Because around the
office, it did not go well. People were like, that's just not true. On Twitter people were.
There's a dumb thing they've ever seen. Here's another thing that I'm going to, I'm just going to
throw a shit at a wall and see if it sticks with these facts. This is something that I'm really,
really, what do you got over there, Lurch? Because you're trying to distract me. What do you
We're doing a hashtag tennis thing.
Dennis.
So I just went on the website for the first time.
But Indian Wells, B&P Parabot.
What website?
So this tennis tournament?
You got to use words.
On the homepage, it just says the 2020 BNP Parabot open will not be held.
And that's the whole thing of the website.
So we talk about tournaments being canceled.
COVID-19.
Like, this isn't even being postponed.
This is just straight up canceled.
All right.
Hashtag tag.
Well, yeah.
I mean, fucking coronavirus is horrible.
So here's a little fact for you guys.
And I heard this at the bar the other night, and it stunned me.
Maybe you guys know it because you're all intellectual human beings.
So houses in America are all like to a certain like length, right?
Like they're all to a certain like rules and regulations of size.
Certain code and like and sizes and all these things and everything's like to the same met like, like, same system.
And apparently over in England, now this is my fact and I actually have no facts to back up my fact.
I don't know if this is true.
But apparently houses are all different sizes and like roads are all like adjacent.
and all over the place
because historically in England
measurements were based off of the
king's foot, right?
So like the king's foot,
however big it may be,
they would base measurements off of that.
Hence why they call it a ruler.
No.
Did you think this up on your own?
I didn't think this up.
Is this another riddle?
It's not.
Am I, right, are you roping us
into saying something stupid?
I'm not.
It feels like an old wives tale.
I'm not sure it's true, but there are some articles out there because I tried to back up my fact that would state that maybe it is a wives tale.
Maybe it's just people's talking over the years that certain systems and certain lengths were based upon the king's foot.
So I just typed it on Google.
I'm going to take that. I mean, too.
Yeah.
I take it on Google and there is some point in it.
In 1,100 AD, like, who knows what the fuck was going on over in Europe?
And they're like, yeah, the king, whatever he did.
This is like what the size should be.
It is said that King Henry I first of England,
whose rule began in 1,100,
decided to standardize the unit of measure with his foot
as the new standard unit of length.
I accept.
I accept it fully.
I love the term the ruler coming.
I was going to say,
what I want to know is the ruler thing real.
That sounds like the way cuter.
That makes it a lot cuter.
Sure.
No, that's like a cute little thing.
Yeah.
That's my punchline.
I just gave you a punchline.
and that's why they call it a ruler.
And everyone goes,
ah.
Yeah,
you're right.
Without that,
it doesn't have as much,
uh,
at the same bar,
someone told me that
because I had just told them
the Australia fact.
And everyone was like,
holy shit.
And every time I got that
holy shit moment out of them,
I said,
it has been rumored to be untrue.
And they all went,
ah.
Yeah, the ruler things.
Rule of things kind of a bunch.
All right.
Well,
the foot thing,
we have,
has some legs.
Yes,
I'm saying it.
Oh.
Come on,
brother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even in a coronavirus environment,
we're still Kylie Dabbin.
That's how important that is.
That just goes to show you how fucking good that one was.
That's because you're covered in Purell.
We are covering Purell.
And I actually just did a little spit onto your laptop there.
So we're going to need a full Kleenex and a full washdown.
All right.
We'll deal with that.
One more thing before we move on real quick.
On this show,
where we're talking about things that own the word,
Purell, right?
Purell is like.
So when a company owns the word of the action,
someone sent me one,
and now I can't think of it that I'm looking at you.
I'll, I have a word for one after.
Holy shit.
I can.
I'm looking at you.
right now I can't think of the word.
Someone
someone tweeted
I mean and it was just right.
Oh,
chapstick.
Yeah.
It's the brand,
bro.
It doesn't matter what you get.
You don't say,
can I have that lip balm?
You say,
can I get a chapstick?
Whether it be Bert's bees or chapstick.
They own the word.
They own the thing.
You know that.
How about Vaseline?
Yeah.
I think it's too specific.
Is it that many things of Vaseline?
Is there?
I think chapsticks more.
During it's more.
I guess so.
But Chapsic's more.
No, the games I win.
I win.
You don't think Chapsix more, like, globally used than Vaseline.
I'm not going to get it.
All right.
Let's talk some go ahead.
I get a question.
Is duct tape one?
Oh, is that a company?
I think so.
I think it is.
I think it is.
I think it is.
But then also scotch tape, like, now tapes is too.
Yeah, tapes a little too much.
During the discussion, I told eBug not to Google the things that are synonymous with the companies,
and Google is one of them.
Don't Google it.
Wow.
that might be a good way to end it.
Okay.
That is a good one.
Yeah.
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What a weird thing for them to say, The Verge says it?
That's just another website.
Why can't they say it like Barstle's sports says?
I mean, we talk about them all the time.
I think Verge has more credibility when it comes to, like, technical and that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
You know what I mean, though?
Because we're saying it.
So then it's another part.
Well, I guess it's another layer.
Maybe Barstool, they would say, and Barstool even says that.
I guess it was just the first time I've ever heard the Verge be used there.
But I guess you hear it like, oh, it's in Bloomberg, the New York Times.
Just backed by somebody else.
They trust it.
You know to buy my software?
Yeah, others trust it.
Stop trying to sing software on our podcast.
I don't.
Nobody knows my company.
How is the software?
software business doing?
Software business is good.
Is COVID-19 affecting the software business?
If you're in the hardware world.
Okay.
You know, if you're building products out of China.
We're talking software, though.
We're talking software.
We're talking feedback software.
Should be okay.
Potentially, you know, the buyer.
Fired risk, they have less money.
It's like something a boring guy in a movie does.
Yeah.
It's what we do.
Yeah, I do feedback software.
In the moment feedback.
That thing that little pops up and you always act is out.
Yeah, that's me.
No, ours is in the moment.
They contextualize.
I can get into it.
It's organic.
Some of the things you guys do pretty cool.
I showed you.
You were excited about it.
I was.
It was pretty interesting.
I've been pretty intrigued by it before.
Lurch gives me the lesson every couple months.
It's also scary that, like, Lurch can sell something that, like, that's, like, pretty
interactive.
Like, right?
You're on the website.
It knows where you're at.
If you click things, it helps you, like, it knows what you're doing on the website.
Yes.
I don't like, like, I always think that that's just, like, big government that, like,
they can install.
There's, like, big lurches out there.
They know exactly where you go and the whole thing.
That's kind of the what's how do we do the watch.
But hey, why are you acting that?
Never said the word red light therapy in my entire life.
Never used the word.
Never even searched it.
Never heard about it.
Someone told me the other day that it was a good thing to do.
Like, you know, you're not getting enough sun in the city.
Red light therapy.
This is something.
So red light therapy basically gives you off the type of vitamins in this light that you need.
It's super expensive.
There's this website.
It's like $8,000 for a little fucking light bulb.
And you're supposed to put it like in your house or whatever.
Or at your work.
Whatever.
It makes you feel better.
You get seasonal depression in the city.
You're always inside.
you're not getting sun.
Vitamin D, basically.
But it's like,
you're body supposed to feel,
your body's supposed to feel that feeling of actually feeling,
it's not just taking the vitamins.
It's like actually your skin feels that light.
Okay.
So someone told me about it.
The next day,
everything on my internet,
red light therapy.
Oh,
I didn't even type it in yet.
Someone verbally talked to me about it.
I had anything.
I think I told you about that.
You didn't, though.
Are you sure you didn't go?
We talked about it.
We talked about it on this podcast.
We talked about this podcast.
Brock Nelson told me about it.
He said it's a really good thing.
And he told me out of games, like, you got to do this fucking red light therapy.
I'm not talking about the red light therapy.
I'm talking about the ads based on voice and verbal.
Because I've heard the verbal thing is a myth.
And that it all comes from people looking either like up an Instagram account or a Twitter account or Googling it.
And then your phone takes that, realizes it and plugs into everywhere.
Unless I did it by and not even knowing.
But, I mean, I swear I got in the car after he told me.
And all of a sudden the first ad on Instagram was a red light therapy.
I don't know if it was a coincidence.
I forget what we called the segment.
It's kind of like.
We'll do what's up, Doc, but for anything in the world, not just medicine and medical.
I would like to know from someone who knows, someone who's an expert in the field, if the whole verbal, your phone picks up what you say and then curates ads towards that, if that's real.
Yes.
I think it is real.
Okay.
I do too at this point.
But I don't think it's okay.
I think it's in like one of those tricky tech situations where it's before they put any regulations against it.
Well, you're Mr. Tech guy.
I think that where you guys live.
That like in the Alexa world and things like that as soon as you opt in to say,
like, hey, Alexa, buy me a Bud Light or whatever, buy me something.
But that was a weird example.
Hey, Alex, you mean truly?
Can you say, hey, Alexa, buy me a Truel.
Okay.
Alexa, yeah.
Alexa, can you buy me a nice?
Alexa, feed this gullet of Bud Light.
Come on, baby.
So as soon as you opt in there, that's where they can potentially now study.
I got to say that sounds like a gray area.
It is.
Yeah.
But, you know, that happens a lot of tech.
Yeah, yeah.
It does.
Okay.
Bay Hill, Arnold Palmer, Invitational.
Just total murder scene.
I mean, it was, like I said earlier, every time you turn it on, you see balls in the water.
Guys are rattled.
Even Tirol Hatton, who won the damn tournament.
He was literally flicking off the water, throwing the bird at the water at one point.
He was hilarious to watch.
He's a very funny guy.
He's funny on Twitter.
He's funny on social.
And he's just, he's fired up during it.
He's always like, there's the clips from him being like, that's the worst shot ever after he hits one ball.
So in a world where we have way too many boring cookie cutter golfers that we describe,
I can't think of a good example of one, but...
Webb Simpson or Zach Johnson.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a really good.
By the way, I always call him Tyrell in my head.
I called him that to his face.
What do you say?
He got mad.
I think he thought it's a very ignorant, dumb American.
In that moment, he was correct.
Trial Hat wins.
He's four under bar.
Pretty clutched finish.
Rip the drive down 18.
Hit one right in the middle of the green where you're supposed to hit it.
He hit one tight on 17, missed the put.
After kind of getting away on 16 with a,
with a par after hitting some bad shot.
So he doubled 11 and then pared all the way in,
which when everybody was making mistakes,
Warren McElroy, shot 76.
When you looked, there was just plus signs all over the fucking scoreboard,
over the leaderboard.
We were trying to follow out.
We were traveling home across the country or whatnot,
so we weren't able to watch it in real time,
but I watched some of the highlights,
was following it in real time.
Amazing golf course when you can deliver this type of carnage.
Most people, Matthew Fitzpatrick,
who's one of our guys,
said, I'm all for it like this.
I would so much rather play it like this every week where it's a battle
and you've got to work hard and grind instead of wide open fairways,
no win and just shoot 65 and you move down the leaderboard,
which is a fair point.
Those guys don't like when like 25 under wins every single time.
Our, well, I don't want to say our guy,
but another sort of friend of ours, sort of not right now,
Bryson D. Chambot.
He finished four.
He's had a bunch of really high finishes lately.
Finish one under par with a gutsy, gutsy birdie on the 72nd hole on 18.
He went right over the flag from the right rough.
He said he had some comments that first I thought came off.
I didn't actually see the video.
I just saw some people like saying that he was upset with the conditions.
And after I watched,
I actually thought he made really, really good points about the tournament.
One of them, you know, he's had some funny ones because he's probably some of it said
at some point the physics stopped working.
I don't think it's a true test of who's better.
You have to get lucky out there.
I think he's right about that.
There's certain level of like the greens are so first.
and it's so windy that some guys are throwing shots in there that landing on the first foot of the green and rolling all the way off.
And another guy lands at a foot short of that in the fringe and it like sticks and like somehow gets lucky and stays on.
Like I think there's definitely an element to that of like not overdoing it.
But he also made in his comments he made the point that like if you're trying to test he made the analogy.
If you're trying to test who the smartest person of the world is, you wouldn't do it by like asking people everyone like what's two plus two.
because like that's just like too easy you would ever get there nailed it
Trent could be the smartest person in world hence why that test would not work
so he also did no no no and neither I mean no you're not I know for the world
I'm the only person said four so I'm dealing with some bad heartburn over here
you think about that way it's been going on for about 10 to 15 minutes
any who I thought Bryson made very good points
how bad is it it's really bad
look here,
you know,
because I'm trying to, like,
sit in certain,
certain spots,
whatever.
Yeah.
Carry on.
Uh,
Bryce made some great points.
He's playing great golf.
He's incredibly jacked.
Uh,
continues to look that way.
Right after he finished his final round,
he posted an Instagram story of himself in the gym.
So he's become obsessed with this world.
We all knew that already.
But now he's matching it up with playing some good golf.
So good for Bryson.
Uh,
I did hear from a little birdie,
um,
I think it's a listener,
a follower who said that he spoke to Bryceon while he's signing
autographs afterwards and was like
hey I love to do your own foreplay why don't you go back on with the guys and the Bryson was like
yeah I haven't really heard from those guys blah blah blah but the guy said basically it's
sounded like he would be interested in coming back on the show so
folks out there want to hit up Bryce and say hey we love having you on the show I would love
to have him on the show again because I think he's electric I think he um you know is like
that glimmer of light in a in a sport that kind of needs it because he's different
but some of the things he says just are infuriating even the way he says it
When he said that the physics stopped to work,
and he basically said science stopped working,
and like it's not his fault,
it's just such a like, such a Bryson going to say,
like, well, I did everything I could do.
Which is you guys made the golf course to a point where my, you know,
me knowing what it takes to get the ball into the hole didn't work.
And that's your fault, not my fault.
That's right.
Which is like, come on, dude.
Like, and the way he said too, he's like all flustered up there.
real quick. He's blinking a million times. It looks like he's fucking short circuit
circuiting. It's like, dude, like you look like you're really like reaching right now.
And, you know, other guys are just like, yeah, the golf course is a little bit too hard.
Like I don't know. I just don't. He's, what's interesting about him is he, um, what I love,
love, love is that he's willing to talk about anything and he's honest about it. Right? He's not
when it fits his narrative of it though. But he's not up there just giving the like, yeah, you know,
like I love the conditions and like it's tough like he's not giving like a just a generic he's giving a
very honest like yeah like I thought at times like it was a little uh lucky and like you had to get
lucky to get good instead of just going up there and saying like everything's great and this
that and giving some cookie cutter like bullshit answer I think that he's genuinely trying to think
through it and give like something that comes from an honest place from him but I just don't think
like his honest and cool places like sounds right to us a lot of the time or
all the time and that makes him come off like a weirdo or a dork or like he's trying to grow his
science brand but like I think that he's pretty honest about it.
I agree, but I think it's also to be honest to like back up why he didn't succeed.
It's always a reason, right?
It's always like, and I understand that not that many people give reasons as to why they didn't do
well, but sometimes you just didn't get the ball in the hole.
Like, and I don't want to always have to hear from him that like, no, he did all the preparation,
he did all the work, he knows what it takes.
He knows the percentages.
He knows the angles.
He knows the speed.
He knows the win.
But because of the way they prepared the golf course, he didn't succeed this week.
That's what gets on my fucking nerves because it's like, no, dude, like, you just didn't play well enough.
And I'm, like, sick of hearing that it's like because of everything else.
He's honest about the way he feels, but that's not necessarily the objective truth about what's going on.
Correct.
That's such a fucking good way to put it.
Yeah, but I think a lot of golfers are like that.
Like, we've talked with Brandel about how, like, you almost have to be delusional to an extent.
Like, you almost have to believe that you've never missed a put that, like, it bounced or something like that.
condescending on the right way.
He says it like, hey kids, sit down.
I'm going to teach you like why I didn't just play well.
It's like, well, fuck you do.
You just didn't make a fucking good shot.
100%.
But I think I can use my own eyes.
I don't need to go to a fucking college to learn that you didn't make a four there.
I think I'm just like we're getting more used to it now.
Like at first he used to piss me off so much.
But now it's like that's what he does.
That's how he is.
Yeah.
And it's still just different than the way anybody else does it.
So that's why it stands out.
It's always going to stand out.
It's his version of being a whiny bitch.
Like, that's me blatantly saying it.
It's his version.
Like some other people may be like, wow, like the USGA sucks.
And that's why the U.S. opens bad, right?
Like, our guy, Kisner is always complaining.
Like, oh, I'm never going to win the fucking tournament.
They put it too far back and all this stuff.
But, like, Bryson's way of saying it's like, well, no, no, I can win the tournament because I know everything.
But the way they put it at this golf, the way they made this golf course this week, I wasn't allowed to win it.
It's almost like you did something to me.
It is two guys saying the same.
It is two guys saying this.
It is two guys saying this.
same thing. It's just like we don't like the way
one guy says. Like
when his literally said he can't win the like
the US Open because of the USGA
runs it. He goes, yeah, I like Pevel, I can't win because
the USGA runs. Like he's complaining about the way
the USDA does. Yeah, but he's always
admitting like he doesn't have the game to win that. There's a difference in
it. Like, Bryson comes off in the way where he's like,
I should win every golf tournament I play him
because I know how to play it.
I know the physics. I know the science. I know
what it takes. To get the ball in the hole. I've done the
fucking practice. I've done the prep work. I've been in the
and the only reason I did not win is because physics failed, the science failed.
That's why he's standing there talking into mics being like, that's the only reason why I didn't win.
And I'm going to get in the gym and I'm going to continue to be the type of guy that I'm going to be and I'm going to win all these things if the golf course works to my advantage.
But in his defense, he didn't say the only reason I didn't win.
No, it's your interpretation.
Right, right, right.
But I think that's where he's trying to get at.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I think you're right.
I think that, like, yeah, it's just harder to, like, it's hard to enjoy the way that he says it and not have it come off.
Yeah.
Like, you're kind of like, like, you think you're smarter than everyone else.
I would love for him one day, even in his scientific way to say something similar to what Kisner says, where he's just like, yeah, I don't have the game to win here.
I would love to hear him say that.
Like, this place just doesn't compliment my game.
Yeah, he'll never say it.
Yeah, he called Chinnacott Clown Golf, you know?
Right, right.
Yeah, he'll never say that.
No.
But I think, I mean, in his heart of hearts, I think he believes he can win every week.
I think he's more of a realist than...
Well, I think he's just a, you know, better conversationalist, like the normal person than maybe a Bryson would be.
You don't think he's more real, realistic in the way that he assesses, like, these tournaments as opposed to, like, Bryson?
I think he is to the, like, the average person like us.
You know, it makes more sense to us.
But I think in his heart of hearts, he believes that he can win no matter where he goes.
There's no way...
I think the belief in these guys is so insane.
that there's no way they could get to this level without that belief.
I just think Kisner is a better conversational person.
He's self-deprecating.
Exactly, which makes it easier for everybody to understand
when you talk about, you know,
Kisner being a top player in the world.
Right.
And talking to us that can't break a fucking 80, you know?
Yeah, it's hard for me to put it like,
there's no fact behind it.
It's just my opinion on the way I perceive both these guys.
But I just think like on 17 at TBC Sawgrass,
I feel like if Kisner put a ball,
just a little too close to like the front apron and it spun back off into the water and then bryson did the same thing they both walk off the golf course and kids would be like i fucking suck at golf i should have known i played this golf course my whole life i played this tournament year after year i should have known that you have to put it on the back and i'm just i suck at this place like yeah they shaved off the front maybe too much whatever i don't even know if he would say that he just big i suck and bryson would talk about how he did all the symmetrical geometrical analysis on where the fucking shot supposed to hit and that he doesn't think that they they shaved the front or i
off at a right angle for him to, you know, for the science and the physics to work.
That's the difference.
And it comes off so much more like, well, he didn't do anything wrong.
It's just the golf course is wrong.
Yeah, no, in that argument there, those are two different things.
I don't think, always comes up.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think he's always that way.
But, yeah, I.
He's getting to be that way.
Maybe he puts the, the onus on somebody else for them making a mistake more than Kiswood.
But I don't think it's always the case for that.
I hear your point out for sure.
Even in Australia, he's like, yeah, I haven't been hitting the ball well,
and I want to get to a higher speed because my wrist strength isn't at a certain, like,
poundage of, like lifting weight.
But then he's bringing that back on himself.
He's saying he needs to get to a certain level of talent, level of muscular shape or whatever
to, you know, to win or whatever the case.
He gets more into it.
He gives more detail on it, but it's always like, there's always a reason why he lost.
It's not because he just did bad.
It's not because he just lost.
Just made mistakes.
You made mistakes.
You want to hear more that like, yeah, I just, you know, I don't know.
I try to keep my tempo at 120 mile hour switch speed.
And this week I was at 117.
I don't know what it was, but I made that mistake.
And that lost me a couple yards of, you know, whatever.
I hear you on that.
Yeah, it's just, it's a, it's a less, like, tasteful way to say a lot of the same things, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I think kids might think the same thing in that situation of like, yeah, this fucker shaved there.
That's fucking ridiculous.
But he wouldn't say that.
No.
He'd be like, yeah, I knew.
like that yeah oh no kids hit a horrible witch like he would say that about himself so it is just
like i don't know i think it's less i think the other players fucking hate when bryson says this type of stuff
because they're all playing the same golf course as him and he's talking so smart just like dude
but sometimes i bet you they agree with them you know like this definitely this past week they might
agree with them in a lot of different instances they just say it differently you know um and he's
definitely a spotlight guy these days with you know all the coverage it gets on him so i just
think we wish we could talk to me i used to be able to say these types of things i know
used to answer and be like no i understand you say it frankie i mean you suck at golf so like everyone like
i think we'll get him back i think we will too it's one of those relationships roller coaster it is one of those
uh brooks kapka went 81 71 71 on the weekend uh they asked them about his uh his round to kind
of um compare the two on saturday when he shot 81 and uh or no after he shot 71 and was better
and he goes still shit still shit putting better that was hit those were his comments about how
he played lurch when you were i know these guys play phenomenal
golf course is in incredibly hard conditions but like when you were playing spy glass you shot at west
78 no 82 oh okay where you should 78 spanish spanish spanish still an elite golf course yeah
maybe that same day brooks kept a shot in 81 no no i'm not no i'm just trying to get your head
working no but i appreciate that but i know where i stand okay good uh yeah it's been a lot of pro lurch
talks i'm trying to see how how far we can go no good i i think my iron game is probably
division three college golfer come on it's got to be better than that I don't know I don't
know I think it's better that's got to be better than that man now I think you're putting
your putting is like putting is childish first tea program yep that's I'm working on it first day
of at the first two right right right yeah I don't know I mean I'm not good you know I mean like
pros are pros I'm not a pro listen you can fallacious yourself this is you this is you doing
I'm a Kisner.
No, I just, I mean, there's, I'm a seven handicapped.
Playing good guy.
Yeah, I'm playing good at a goal.
Seven now.
Seven.
It's pretty good.
My drop, actually, I have to enter those scores.
I'd renew my gym.
Oh, I think that 78 will drop it for sure.
I mean, I had six purties, dude.
I hit four shots within four feet.
How many both, like, did you have a double?
Yeah, so then after I won the match, I just like fell apart and went double,
double, par double.
And I had six three puts within the round.
Did the same thing in Australia?
You were even.
Big time.
And then you went.
You're the roaring magorah.
You can't close.
I closed them.
And then my last three holes, I went,
Bertie par, Bertie.
I think it's your endurance?
Derry.
It might be dairy.
I will say,
I need to be.
I need to be fed the whole time.
Do you think it's your heart?
Like Riggs was like,
I didn't eat,
I didn't eat the whole round.
And he didn't even eat to the airport.
I was like, dude,
I couldn't even have gone out there today unless I had a breakfast sandwich.
Then I had a Twix bar or a Snickers bar rather.
I mean, I need.
to be fat or else
they need to be
or else I can't play
feed the beast
at Pebble
we went out there
and there was no
breakfast sandwich
in sight before the round
and I was panicking
I was like I'm
I mean I don't have the ability
They're at the bottom of a ship
they're shoveling coal
and those big burners
That's how like we need
To learn somebody
That's my body
He has a churn
Like he's lifts up
Like in the Titanic
When they're shoveling that cold
There's just a little
doorway and you can open up
And they just throw shit in there
I'm playing good though right now
It's fun
It's like, you know.
How bad do you want to go out and play right now?
So bad.
Just keep going.
I want to just play golf all the time.
It's all I can think about.
I really need to improve my putting.
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Players championship week.
Oh, I want to talk about Rory really quickly too.
Just a, he finished tied for fifth.
He shot 66, 73, 73, 76 in the final round.
Once again, everyone had him going into the final round as the favorite.
You roasted a drive right down the middle on the first hole and you're thinking, here we go.
His 2019 and 2020 finishes on the PGA tour thus far.
We're going to update you yet again.
Tide for third first.
Tide for third.
fifth,
tied for fifth.
Those are his finishes and to be honest,
he's like collapsed every single time.
It feels like on Sunday.
So Rory is like,
he's like half a round away from winning
every golf tournament is pretty much where he's at.
Every time I look at the leaderboard, he's just right there,
every week, every single week.
He is. He's nine holes away from winning every golf tournament.
Yep.
And he could legitimately be on a six tournament winning streak and it wouldn't,
like he wouldn't, it wouldn't be that different than what he's doing right now.
It would be nine different holes on Sunday.
Gotta think that drives him crazy.
Oh, man.
It drives him absolutely insane.
Yeah, this is a stretch in which he's playing,
winnable, like winning golf tournament type golf,
and he's not winning.
So it's like all these opportunities are going behind him.
Maybe he's not going to be this hot for like this next upcoming season.
You know,
he's bad Tony Fina.
You finished second all his time.
Like, how many more times are you going to get to that point?
You need to get a couple ones.
Right, because Finaw is like gone now.
Right.
But he's not doing what he was doing.
Right.
But he was the stretch.
That was, he needed to win some of those.
You need to convert.
Like teams get hot, like, like dynasty teams or whatever.
It's like the islanders were hot early in the year.
Let's not talk about that.
And now they've jumped up.
Now they're cold.
They're the opposite of hot.
So you can only stay at that peak performance for so long before you just fall apart.
We haven't fallen apart.
And right, when you don't have the talent as maybe the top guys, your ability to stay at that top point is very small.
Really?
And that's for the island is.
They're playing great hockey.
Right.
And so they only had a little bit of talents.
And now when you don't have a lot of talent.
Are they in a playoff spot?
No.
Okay.
Yeah, Roy's got 18 PJ Tour wins.
He should be at at least 25 sniffing 30.
Yeah, he could be easily at 30 PGA Tour wins.
I mean, this is just the stretch that we're talking about this year.
Right.
Like, in the beginning of last year, he had a bunch of really high finishes too.
He did end up winning the players.
But, like, he was right fucking there so many different times in the final group at Eastlake when he lost the Tiger.
He lost in the match plate to Tiger.
He had the final round when he was with Patrick Reed of the Masters.
He's had all the ones in the last two years that we're talking about.
So, like, he could have 30 wins.
easily.
And he's right fucking there.
So you got to think if he can just turn that corner, get over the hump.
He's got like this crazy Zen-like approach.
He's reading all the time.
So he's in his own head.
I think it's probably helping overall.
But he's got to get over that hump.
And once he does, I mean, he's going back to a golf course this week.
Nice transition to the players championship where he's going to be the defending champion.
He was incredibly clutch last year.
Remember him stepping up and hitting that drive on the 18th.
Like, no, I feel like he, everyone's like, oh, is it going to be a lot.
hit an iron, this, that.
He wasted zero time, pulled driver, and just roasted a tight draw right down the middle
with all the water down the left.
Horrible roughen trees on the right.
So if you can find that kind of a mojo again to close out these tournaments, he will be
unstoppable, you have to think.
TBC Sawgass, Players Championship, they went ahead and did a bunch of supergroups yet again
for the featured groups, which is great, makes Thursday Friday really fun.
Just a little reminder for all you folks out there, if you could find a, you know,
Penn Gaming is a great place to do it.
Find some prop bets.
One of our favorite prop bets from last year was over under total balls in the water on 17 for the week.
And we had a little group tech going with a boys.
We all threw like 50 or 100 bucks in together, pulled it in there.
And we're just every time somebody's ball went in the water, we went crazy because we took the over.
How closely can you track that?
Very.
Because you can just keep a.
You just keep, they have a camera there the whole time, right?
They have camera and they have a like a shot track tracer.
Okay.
So you can, you can.
You can do like the shot link shot tracer thing on there.
It would be like ball and water.
Yeah.
I would love to get like alerts to my phone.
I also want to say.
They did them.
You know what I mean?
That'd be great.
Ball and water.
And it gives you like the name.
Yes.
Kevin now,
ball and water.
Yes.
17.
Yeah.
We were doing it last year and it was,
it was very fun to follow.
So you have a little bit of an idea.
The total balls in the water in 2019 were 45,
2018,
53, 2017,
169.
Nice.
2016, 36.
2015-45.
So 2017, windy?
Had to be windy as well.
69.
A lot of balls in the water.
I'm pumped.
I'm pumped for the players.
It is, you know, there's been a lot of controversy, debate, whatever you want to call it forever, about if this is like the fifth major, it isn't.
It's just the players championship, and it's phenomenal.
You know every whole 17 delivers every year with the water or the water balls.
You can make cool wagers.
and it pretty much gives you a dramatic, intense finish on Sunday afternoon every single time.
Okay, from the gallery.
We've got to do a couple from the galleries.
We've got some good ones.
It's the finale of Bachelor.
Yeah.
It's a two-night finale.
One's a night and then one Tuesday night.
Do you expect you on either one?
You'll have to wait and see.
Okay.
But no.
Okay.
Dale says, if the opportunity presented itself,
would Trent be the next bachelor?
So I've had a lot of people reach out to me since,
just like people who watch the show and whatever being like,
oh, you should be the next bachelor,
you should be the next bachelor,
you should be the next bachelor. Very nice.
Not all that realistic that that would happen, I don't think.
But even if I were approached by ABC or the people of The Bachelor,
I would absolutely turn that down.
Why?
Because you don't believe in the show?
No, I do believe the show.
You don't want to find love?
I'm not looking for love at the moment,
but that's not the reason.
And the reason would be is if you look at Pilot Pete, whose season is happening right now,
he was a pretty well-liked guy before the season started.
And then you go throughout this process and you maybe like him.
You make a bunch of bad decisions.
People start to not like you as much.
And I've said it before.
If I was dating 30 women at once, I would make lots of mistakes.
And people would probably end up not liking me as much.
I like existing on the fringes of the Bachelor universe.
Luggage guy.
Oh, they pulled me out of the crowd.
women tell all and I get to drink champagne that's if you are the bachelor you get over exposed you
you get almost too much camera time people find out too much about you and they're like oh I don't like
this aspect of his personality I don't like this decision he he made here so with my where I live
right now in the universe is pretty great I've total I've probably been on on the bachelor for like
11 seconds given the luggage guy thing the champagne the crowd shots of the women's to be over exposed
don't want to be overexposed that's really what it comes down to so you're saying if
they pulled the covers back on Trent, you don't think they'd like what they found.
I think that happens to everybody.
I think.
I agree with that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like I don't think.
To a certain point.
You certainly drop before you can rise again.
It's hard to do that correctly.
And in a way where like if you do it in a way where you think you're doing it right, it can be boring.
If you do it in a way that people don't like, then you're an asshole.
So there's almost no winning to it.
And I just like being the luggage guy.
Yes.
Yeah.
It is like if you think about.
Man, I'd fucking love for you to be a bad.
It'd be great.
I'd watch every show.
Oh, my God.
If they dragged out publicly on camera,
like every mistake you've made in any relationship you've been in,
you know, with like communication or whatever.
Like, you'd come off to America, almost anyone in the world, I feel like, as...
Lock me up.
It's like, yeah.
You'd probably have some enemies.
Oh, yeah, sure.
And then the other thing I would say about it would be, man, like, I watched the,
whatever, the not the women's tall, but the one before,
and he has to, oh, the beginning of the last,
women tall when he had to make the decision with the three left and like you get to that point
where he clearly had sex with the one girl right they formed this insane like bond and relationship
you're almost further along at that point because like one of these three you're going to propose to
than most people are after like a year or two in like a relationship and he's just like breaking up
with her unexpectedly has to do that right and he has to do that every week every week for fucking
like two months that's that's impossible I have
the best of both worlds i get to be part of this cool awesome show that i love but i never had to be
the bachelor or i never had to be even a contest on the bachelorette like a guy like wells who's the bartender
down uh in paradise he was on jojo season of the bachelorette so he had to go through all that
people love him he's great but i i get the best of both worlds where i don't have to go through
this process where i do get more exposed but i also still get to be part of the show i've really got
it made yeah i think that's probably the right answer long story short no like that confrontation
those breaking up and sending them home?
Dude, no.
Can I just text her?
Like, you know, can I, like, can I, like, what can I?
The thought of it's great.
So they come to you and they ask, Trent, your answer is no.
Yeah.
The thought of it is sick.
It's like all these beautiful women are, like, dying to marry you.
What do you mean?
It's like.
It's just like, who are you, Lurch?
No, I'm just saying, I mean, but on TV, though?
Just like on paper, like to like.
Yeah, hanging out with 30 beautiful women's awesome.
And they all want to, they all want you.
Oh, that's cool.
That's like every guys's drink.
Yeah.
Do you trust the way you...
No, exactly.
That's where the misses.
The thought of it is great.
Yes.
In a vacuum, perfect.
In reality, night.
And you get your parade around.
You're the bachelor.
That's like lots of people watch that show.
If you're looking for some level of fame or you want Instagram followers or Twitter followers, you're the bachelor.
They're going to, you're the face of one of the most famous shows in the country.
That's an appeal to some people.
But like I said, I just get to walk in, take luggage and leave.
And people think that's great.
Then I think that's great.
Yeah.
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An anonymous user asks,
At what age will Tiger Woods not be able to compete at the Masters?
Well, you got to make a guess.
Well, that question would have been better before we knew that he was drawn from all these tournaments.
Like if Tiger's 58, can he still win the Master?
I was going to say 56.
How old is he right now?
How old is you right now?
43, 43, 44?
Is it 24?
Tiger Woods is 44 years old.
He just turned 44 on December 30th.
He'll probably compete until if he's healthy.
and all things go right.
He probably compete until he's 56.
How old's boom boom couples?
So exactly that I was sticking out.
He's got to be 59.
Late, I was to say so.
Okay.
I mean, he's an outlier for sure, but he's still in the mix.
Tom Watson almost won the British trouble when he was 59.
What a goddamn swing on Fred Couples.
Oh, maybe the most rhythmic swing in the history of going.
Maybe the best swing in all of golf history.
The exact opposite of mine.
I like Ernie's is my favorite.
Ernie's got similar.
Freddy's so, it's just so smooth.
Freddy's got swag, too.
He's got sandals on or something.
He just looks so relaxed.
You're talking about that red light thing.
He's got great skin.
Oh, yeah.
Freddy's always got great skin.
Yeah.
Nice tan.
I mean, if he, if tire can go until 55, 56, that'd be great.
Yeah, right now we're just worried about.
Worried about right now.
He's not even trying to, so I'm watching videos of Freight couples.
He's not even trying to put the club through the ball at any sort of speed.
It just happens to go where he wants.
wants it to go. And he just gets he rips it. But it's just like so smooth. He does rip it.
There's no like that right there that's butter. There's just no like,
to it. There's no, like, when I swing there's like violence points in this way.
When I swing there's violence. Yeah, you're trying to get the hands in the right. Yeah.
No friction points. He's just smooth as butter. Uh, fun fact, Joe La Cava was on the bag for
Freddie Coubles when he won the Masters. Really? Yeah, and I jaded too. I'm just watching
Fred Cupple swing now.
So I'm going to say 56.
That's my answer.
56 is a good number.
That,
I respect the boss man.
I love the boss man.
That's,
I hope that's what happens.
Yeah.
I hope he gets through this year.
Right,
right, right.
But I mean,
do you have an answer?
He could make it that far,
but like,
if the question,
like,
at what age will Tiger
would not be able to compete at the Masters?
Like,
I think he might,
if he gets to 18 or 19,
he might just call it quits.
Right.
You know, age 47.
But I think he could,
I think he could win
at the Masters and to his 60s.
Wow.
I, this is going to be stating the obvious, but I very much worry about his body.
I mean, that thing is, if we're worried about, like, oh, he can only play the very, the most important tournaments right now, and he's only 44, what's that going to look like in 10 years with 10 more years of swings on it?
He might just play the master's the only tournament play.
That would be amazing.
Is that allowed?
Oh, yeah.
He's got a lifetime exemption.
Imagine he comes out there, like, fucking.
20 years from now, he's like 64.
And it's like Tiger plays one tournament a year.
And it's just the Masters.
It's out there in his red and black on Sunday.
It really does depend on where the number stacks up at the end.
Like if he's 64 and it's still on 15, people are going to be like, this is tough.
Really tough.
Put him in a home.
Yeah, I hate to use that phrase on him.
No, I'm saying people might say that.
We would never.
I'm saying I could see mean people out there.
Really, really tough.
Say that my back.
if you had sponsorship exemption for one tournament every year outside of the majors,
which would it be?
I know what you're going to say.
Come on.
Come on.
I can't believe you would even think that.
That can't be a serious answer.
A homeless person can get into that tournament.
Dude, I would be in the top 1,000.
I would be a conquering hero at that tournament.
What tournament are we talking about?
We're talking about the John Deer Classic.
I would be.
Even the name of it makes me fucking.
That's the one, that's the one tournament.
my parents go to every single year.
They go.
Well, they also go to...
Who goes all the...
My parents.
Oh, they go to the John Deer Class?
Yeah.
He just laughs.
It's just funny.
Yeah, they do.
They make the hour and 15 minute drive,
Silvest Illinois, and they go.
And they also go to the waistband.
Because they're down in Arizona.
Oh, that's...
That's class.
That's my answer.
You guys can give your answers now.
Um...
All right.
Let me read this question again because this heartburn is really starting to kick in.
I might, the pro-am would be sweet.
What?
Pebble?
Yeah.
Pro-am.
Mm-hmm.
My question would be if you get a sponsorship exemption to a WGC, I would do it because
you're automatic guaranteed payday.
Even if you finish last, there's no cut.
You'd make like 50 grand.
No, a terrible idea.
Where would you go?
Mexico.
It'd be fun to hit the ball that far.
I know.
Yeah, if you went to Mexico.
Sight scene.
Check it out.
Yeah.
I'm a little...
Capulua.
That'd be a good one.
Start in Hawaii.
That'd be fun.
Good one.
Just every year you know it's starting in Hawaii.
You don't have to do anything.
That would be a good one.
I don't think they do sponsors exemptions because it's the tournament of champions.
But that'd be sick if they did.
If there's hypothetical you can just get them, that would be a good one.
I will also add to this that I believe the tournament, the Goslings Invitational that I played in Bermuda,
where I shot 8 million.
I think we're all playing in that this year.
I think we're all playing in that stroke play.
We've got to have some sort of competition.
That's going to be tough.
Yeah.
That's going to be really tough.
Hopefully there's not much win.
Dan,
we talk too much shit for us to play in that.
I talk way too much shit.
I'm going to tear my ace.
I believe we're all playing a three-day stroke play event where every stroke counts.
That's actually,
that's another thing that's almost more fun to be on the fringe.
You know what I mean?
100%.
Like you can.
can just be like, yeah, you suck.
Like, did you not put our names into that?
Like, these motherfuckers got to play.
No.
I had nothing to do.
I'm a upcoming professional golfer.
Right.
No, it's an amateur tournament.
Oh, I'm, okay.
But it's a, yeah.
I mean, it was playing.
Is it handicapped?
No, it's just a, it's just a straight up metal.
Ball in the hole.
Ball in the whole type scene.
Everything.
Got to play by the perfect exact rules of golf.
You point to me because my score is going to be 500?
Every ball in the hole.
Actually, you do that anyways.
Yeah.
Well, you guys are generous with me.
On the ball.
On the page, dude, you were doing 14, 11, 12.
Yeah, I mean, you were ball in the hole.
No joke.
Ball in the hole makes golf really hard.
And everything by the, like, if you hit one that might not,
you're not sure if you're going to find it up there,
you got it retake.
And like, that's just your score.
Boy, that sounds like fun.
That's going to be fun.
So I hope people can, you know,
look forward to that for sure.
Yeah, the sponsorship exemption,
if I was taking it seriously,
I had to pick a tournament, it'd be the genre.
That's just you're such a moron.
The last one that we'll do is Dale asks,
how many golf balls do you think you've lost in your golf career?
It's got to average out through a sleeve around for me.
That's a lot.
Maybe not.
That's too much.
But when you first started playing golf?
I spend at least a sleeve around.
Yeah, I would say a sleeve around might be accurate or low.
Yeah, because when I first started playing golf, man,
those things were going everywhere.
Right.
And think like it's not
Orchard.
There's a couple summers.
Like before we started playing golf at this rate,
there's a couple summers that went by where like every time I show up to a golf course I'd buy a sleeve.
Right?
Like you get there, you get to the page, you buy a sleep for 11 bucks.
That's it.
Like, and then you go put a brand new balls.
Now you don't use them all that round.
Maybe one round you don't, you only use one ball.
But you still end up, I always bought a sleep.
So I've been playing golf for about 10, 11 years, something like that.
trying to average out the math
rounds per year
thousands and thousands
just so many
you're doing a lot of mental math right now
so we're watching Lurge do mental math
yeah I can see it if it were
I think I only lost
I would say
14 to 1,600 golf balls
I'm not on the same
like wavelength as you guys I can't do the math
I have no idea how I'm doing 11 years
times like 40 rounds a year
It's a lot.
It seems like a lot of golf.
So much golf.
I don't know if I played that many.
Yeah.
Maybe, but then it, so then.
I'd say I played.
Before this, before we were playing golf this much, I was playing, what, 20 rounds a year?
So 11 times 30, say.
Yeah.
So we're 330 rounds of golf I played my life.
Okay.
And then you multiply that by the number of golf balls you lose per round.
And it's not, it's not like if you're saying it's three, you're only at 990.
You know, you're not even over 1,000.
So I think, like, yeah, I mean, I'm 1,200 golf balls, I would say.
Yeah, it's a lot of golf balls.
A ton of money.
I wonder what my net is, because when I was learning how to play golf, man, I would lose one and come out with six.
True.
Right.
Net's huge.
Also, huge on your mental approach to the game.
Right.
If you go, if you lose, like, two balls in a row and then you go in looking for that second,
when you come out with, like, four ProV-1s.
Yeah.
Or a nice new bridge.
You think you made money.
Yeah, you're like, stroke penalty.
Who cares?
They have four golf balls.
I used to play noodles.
when I was long and saw.
Oh, yeah.
Good ball.
I used to play the Nike mojo.
Oh, yeah.
You ever play that one?
Oh, yeah.
Big old letters.
Yep.
M-O-J-O.
Mm-hmm.
Good one.
Yeah, another good one.
All right, anybody got anything else?
If someone gave you the option to see how much money you spent on the game of golf in your life, would you even want to look at the number?
My dad talked about that amount of hot dogs he's purchased at the garden.
He's potentially the longest, he's the longest season ticket holder, I believe it, for the New York Rangers.
Just a ton of losing.
The dollar value on hot dogs alone.
Yeah.
Hot dog every game?
At least.
Oof.
Well, not now because the food's better, but back, you know, the old garden, certainly a hot dog every game.
No, dude, I've done it a couple years ago.
Sometimes first and like right after the second.
Like the first year after I moved to New York, I added up, like, seamless charges.
Oh, man.
Shitty one.
It's a nightmare.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't do that.
Don't do it.
So then think about how much you spent on golf, it's going to be a lot.
Dude, every islander game from when I was like
9 to 16
Every, because like there was time
Yeah, every single time during that, that range
After every first period, I'd buy a popcorn from the same old lady
She's probably dead now, which is actually sad to think about
Definitely dead.
She was old as shit.
It's like when you see a dog in an old movie.
Dead is shit.
And then after the second period, I'd buy a Carvel ice cream
and I would go to every single game, 41 games a year.
Were they expensive out there?
Do they treat that like a college arena?
No.
Well, nowadays, I mean, a beer 1750 at the Coliseum.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
I can't believe they're treating that stadium like professional stadium.
All right.
That's not nice.
That's a...
He didn't catch it the first time.
I forgot it.
The second bat.
Are we done here?
Yeah, I think we're good.
Islanders are full on free fall.
It's so good.
Still, you know what?
Do they have a game tonight?
No, tomorrow.
They got three games in hand teams ahead of them.
that tonight when this comes out.
They have to win against Vancouver.
I mean, at some point, you've got to win a game.
They've lost six in a row.
Rangers played Dallas tomorrow.
Islanders have lost six in a row, but haven't lost any ground on the Rangers, which is outrageous.
Jake, you got to go to dinner or something?
I like that.
At some point, you've got to win a game.
You've got to win a game at some point.
It's a good attitude.
Some point you've got to make the pot.
Still not 100% out on them.
I still think that they can rally around.
The last three spots are tight.
Nightmare.
A lot of tough games.
Rangers have crept in now to be playing.
part of the mix. Rangers have really tough
schedule. So are the Islanders, but
Rangers play fucking Penguins three times.
So like at that point, it's like no matter who
wins that game. Some of those are really late though, so I hope they're
resting some guys. I agree that, but from my point
is like, so many guys I've got to go watch
about it. So many guys play
hit it hard. Play each other that no matter who wins, you can
gain. Does he know how to start? Hit it hard.
Hit it hard. Yeah, hit it hard. Fuck you.
