Fore Play - The Tumbling Twenties: 2020 Predictions

Episode Date: January 2, 2020

New year, new decade, new predictions. What kind of year will Tiger have? Will that psycho Rahm win a major? Is Phil done or ready for a resurgence? Who will win the Masters, PGA, U.S. Open and Britis...h Open? All that plus Frankie details, as only he could, his Atlantis trip and things that happen to... only Frankie!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Happy 2020. It's a new year. We're not going to do the jokes. Frankie, are you, you're cool with everything? Yeah, I feel fine. You sure? I'm relaxed. My brain is reset. I'm not on high alert. I don't need to go into these weird year things anymore. I think I'm a change person. You do sound a little relaxed. I am tired, like, relax. I'm tired, but I'm relaxed. It's weird. because I've been so relaxed over the week
Starting point is 00:00:31 that I'm now even more tired than I think I was before. Yeah, we get a good amount of time off about a week and a half we're coming back after and you do, this place is somewhat chaotic, some would say very chaotic. So when you kind of,
Starting point is 00:00:42 a lot of us went home, just kind of relaxed, maybe didn't look at our phone as much, weren't on the computer as much. So this is probably going to be about as relaxed as you'll ever hear us. As the year starts to progress, 2020, it's just going to get more and more frantic.
Starting point is 00:00:54 2020 feels like a fake number. Yeah, when you go 2017, 2018, 2018, 2018, 2019, fine. 2020 is like, what was it, Colway to blog, something about how we,
Starting point is 00:01:03 like, don't have, like, flying cars yet. Now that it's 20, it's a crazy reality. It's the future. How about this?
Starting point is 00:01:08 This is like the first decade, I feel like, I mean, so like I lived in the 90s, but like you didn't say like, I don't know, like the 2000s and then the 2010s, like it doesn't feel like a decade.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Like you live in the 20s now. Something's gonna fucking happen to the place. Like I live in the 20s. Like in 40 years, people can be like, oh, back in the 20s.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Well, we're also running into a thing Right? Are they going to say that? Big time. Where nobody's going to say back in the tens. Like that's a fucking dumb thing to say. But also when you say back in the 20s, my brain says 1920s.
Starting point is 00:01:36 At some point in our lives, we are going to say back in the 20s, I had this car, whatever. And you're going to be like, holy fuck. Back in the 20s. I know. Right. Doesn't that feel weird? It feels so weird. And we're in there now.
Starting point is 00:01:46 We just enter. Like when we're 70 years old, we're like Tiger Woods won five majors in the 20s. Yeah, it became the winningest. I looked it up. 2020 sounded so strange to me that I looked up the year that I robot was based in. Will the Will Smith movie? Because I thought it was going to be 2020 and I was like, boy, we really are living in the future. It's 2035.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So when that comes around, then you'll know. A long way to go to get to that movie. Yeah. 2035, unless things have been ramping up pretty quickly in terms of technology. In 15 years, if it's like I robot, that'd be kind of crazy. Do you guys have to read 1984 growing up? I don't know. I don't remember anything.
Starting point is 00:02:19 No, but I know that's a very famous like utopian book. Very famous where it's. Oh, they burn all the books? That's Fahrenheit. Is that? 451, Fahrenheit 451. But
Starting point is 00:02:31 1984, I think, what year did 1984? Came out in 1949. So the same kind of deal where they were like, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:39 you're trying to figure out like how futuristic is everything is going to be and then that year comes. Now think about how long it's been since 1984. Point is there is going to be a time like Frankie's saying
Starting point is 00:02:46 when the 20s is going to be and it feels like more memorable shit's going to happen in the 20s than in the 10s. Because you can reference it. Can't reference. Such a more, yeah,
Starting point is 00:02:55 the reference part is so big. The 20s, think about famous to the 19s. and 20s are. Roaring 20s. Yeah. These could be like the downfall 20s or something real bad. The downfall 20s.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Wow. Brayton chipper leading you into the 2020 of the new year. It is strange, man. Because I do. And people say this all the time, but they feel like 10 years ago still the 90s. Brother, we're 20 years removed from the 90s. It's crazy. I never thought.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I didn't think the world was going to end or anything, but I never, like when I was a kid, I never looked past graduating high school. You're like 2007. Oh, man. That's way in the future. Now we're just, we blew up. Time is flying. Man, I was like, I was skiing over the break and I was skiing my mom.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We just had like a mother Sunday out on the slopes. And we were talking and we were like, we've been skiing together for about 30 years. We are getting to the point now where the people who have been in your life, like your, your good friends and you're obviously your family, where you guys have just been plugging along for decades now. Decades. Like we, I'm older than my mom was when she had me. Yeah. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's fucking weird. What is that? Right. Like, how did that happen? What are we doing here? Yeah, man, I was at New Year's party last night at Pirelli's and, like, everyone that was there, it's just like, man, like, even like all our, my girlfriends, like, girls that I grew up with and, like, everyone that you see, like, once or twice or three times a year, you're like, Jesus, like, this girl was in my preschool class. Yep. And now we're still, like, cheers in at New Year's and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You know what I mean? Like, weird. It's a weird time. What a weird start to the podcast? Happy New Year. I think it's the right way to start. Like, what the fuck are you guys? Because I think everyone is a little weird.
Starting point is 00:04:27 it out by it. Yeah, that's a golf podcast, but we're going to talk about how we're feeling. I'm feeling pretty weird about it being 2020. It's weird. It's bizarre, but it is. I mean, it is, it's a, it does feel like a nice round number. Like it's this, we turned into a pretty 2020. This is a meaningful, this was a meaningful one. It was hard to wear the glasses, the 2020 glasses, because the two goes over the eyes. You'd think they would have constructed it. It would be the two zero, two just be a little lost centered, but they didn't. They just blew it. I was wearing them around. I was wearing them. I just had two in front of my eyes. This stinks. This really, it's a really stings.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Dude, that hit him. You can tell that, like, really popped up on them. They didn't see that coming. No. They're like, oh, fuck, we got to get these New Year's glasses out. And it's not just two O's in the middle of it. One more thing. I wore an outfit that I usually never wear.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I wore, like, a cardigan and a white t-shirt. I thought I looked fucking fantastic. And my buddy, my really good buddy showed up and just wore the same outfit, but 10 times better. And people called me Walmart all night. And it ruined my fucking year. Or ruined, they're like, you're just a Walmart version of Andrew. And I said, all right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I'm surprised you didn't just go home Because I thought I looked real good And when I tell you he wore the same outfit But in every aspect it was better I was wearing Nike shoes He was wearing like super nice white sneakers That are like something like Dave would buy Like 400 dollar sneakers
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah My jeans were probably from American Eagle He had like really nice skinny black jeans on I was wearing a fucking cardigan from like Target That was like $30 He was wearing a fucking jacket suit With a pocket square Oh man
Starting point is 00:05:52 And he had facial hair Which is just tough You just can't win that one Because you can't grow any No, I lost. I lost the whole thing. So, yeah, that was a good way to start the year. It's been a real positive start to the show so far.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Golf. You guys want to talk golf? Yeah. By the way, it's going to be an ad-free show. We're just going to pound right through this show. Not everybody that? I want you people to get inside of that. The performance we put in last year, we lost all of our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:06:14 We don't have it anymore. We're free. We can tell whatever we want. So you're just going to get this where we talk about God knows what, how depressing the New Year? You say advertisements like that just to make a little joke? You know, that's how you're supposed to say it? I don't care. care.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Advertisements. No way, bro. We're not doing this like that. You know what they're, hold on. Where did I see it? Somewhere they were saying, they were calling it, um, controversy. No. No.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Absolutely not. That's like how, uh, controversy. That's what I heard. We have a kid here, Rudy, who calls it, uh, documentaries. You can't say that. That's what he said. That's ridiculous. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:06:48 What the, what the, what the, uh, advertism. Itverted. I'm furious. What the majority of the populace of the populace. says just becomes what it is like english is is free flowing and it's like i feel like you can't it's what is it advertisements no it's not it's advertisement i will say i make my elbow hurt when i listen to that like a storm's coming one time in a video just to kind of i don't know i was trying to like come up with something to be a little different and i actually like i genuinely enjoy that version more
Starting point is 00:07:16 than advertisements oh advertisements sounds like it just kind of rolls off the tongue and it sounds like you're saying it wrong yeah real bad no advertisement sounds like advertising it's such an You don't have to put the emphasis on the tisement, advertisement. Anyway, we have none of us. Oh, yeah, no. It's free. The whole point is today on this show, you're not going to get any of that word that we disagree how you say. Golf.
Starting point is 00:07:38 First of all, I want to get into our break. Frankie, I want to congratulate you on a round of golf where it was very fun to follow because you're out in Atlanta. Yeah. Looked amazing, by the way. Fake life stuff. Crazy. Postcard. The colors were popping.
Starting point is 00:07:51 It was like the green. I'm convinced they spray the whole place with just green paint because it's just crazy. Do you ask anybody? No. Okay. Smart. But like it did. It was too green.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Even in the videos, like usually the video will show a different color than the pictures. You can pop the pictures. The videos were actually more bright than the pictures. We are getting to a point now with cameras and how good iPhones are where nothing is missed. Like you just see what it would look like. Like the pictures and videos that we're looking at, like we might as well just be there with you. Yeah. It's actually, right.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The pictures are close to actual real life now. Like they used to be, oh, this is obviously a picture. I bet it's beautiful. Now this is just what it looks like. just sitting there. I'm in Iowa, but I feel like I'm in Atlantis. So I went to Atlanta's, um, played the ocean club. Shout out to my guy, Robbie. He's a huge Barstle fan. Good guy. Uh, the GM of the golf course. Gave me, uh, I got there. He just gave me a golf cart, gave me balls of a little, uh, a nice
Starting point is 00:08:39 little bag of balls with the logos on him. And he gave, he goes, you're on your own. Just the golf course is yours. How nice is that? It's sick. You're just, I went to the range. I putted for a little bit. No one was out there. It was maybe like a foursome that was somewhere out, out in front of me. And I played. And it was actually really fun to play by yourself because, like, you, you have the ability to do whatever the hell you want, but I was playing so well that I just played it legit. Like after like the first,
Starting point is 00:09:00 first hole I made like just a perfect par and I was like, I'm rolling. Like I got no worries in the world. I had a beer in my hand. I was like, I am just rolling. So it was fun. It's not like when you start like that,
Starting point is 00:09:12 because if you start with like a double, then on every hole you're hitting like multiple puts, you're hitting a couple approach shots. You're like taking your sweet time. When you start, you're like, oh, Frankie's got around. There probably was like one or two puts that I was generous for myself
Starting point is 00:09:22 where like maybe I could have put it. And I was just like, I'm going to give myself that one. Treat yourself. I treat yourself. So maybe I would have missed one or two of those, but I don't give a fuck. Yeah, but I bet you felt great walking at next two. Dude, because I remember there. There's one hole where I hit a great drive, a good second shot.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I kind of like, I hit like a decent chip. I had a long put for par. And I was like, I play this all okay. And I kind of hit the putt a little too far. And I'm like, that's a good bogey. I just walked off. I just walked off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Because I'm not taking the double there. No, no stress. I don't want to stress that next four-foot slider. That's one of those where you're just, you're hoping you're not in the Truman show. Yes. You know? Everyone's watching. Yeah, you're just kind of like, I really hope that it is just me out here.
Starting point is 00:10:03 The biggest thing for me was I lost zero balls and the whole place was filled with water. I don't know how it happened. I had a couple close calls. A couple situations were actually hit provisionals on T-shots and stuff and just found my other ball. But, yeah, zero lost balls. Had an eagle bid. Never had a chance because I stink of putting. But I shot in 85.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I played really well. A lot of fun. Can't believe you lost no balls. Zero balls. It was crazy, dude. Do you have an over under on how many you thought you were going to lose? Six. Everyone on your Instagram.
Starting point is 00:10:32 So I didn't do a poll. I put up a picture of like, it was from the driving range. You just saw just ocean and water and everything. I'm like over under set at six. And I didn't do a poll so everyone was responding to it. I must have had 150 messages. It said like, where are the lines on this so I can like bet the over like right now, put my whole life on it.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. And actually filming yourself is really difficult because like I. Dude, what were you doing? Go through the process. I thought you made, I was going to compliment you. I thought you made it look good, though. No, you did, but I'm wondering how you did it. Like, I would, like, park the cart sometimes, like, horizontally behind me, and I'd put it, like, a...
Starting point is 00:11:04 So, like, the phone would keep slipping if I'd put it on the cushioned chair. So I'd put, like, a towel to stop the friction of, like, slipping. And then I'd put a water bottle behind it, and I'd start it. And then other times I would, like, on one of the chips, I'd put it against a tree. Like, in between... It was, like, in the air in a tree. It was weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Actually, one of the times... So I met the guy. guy Robbie out on the golf course for a second. He came out to see me. That's actually where he introduced me. So he had someone just give me the golf cart and the balls to begin with. I didn't meet him. And then he saw me on one of the par threes. And that was the only time I hit it, I hit two balls on the T-box. It was like third hole. And it was a par three. And the wind was so crazy. And I hit a good shot. And it went way to the right. Like I drew it to the point where it was like, it was going to the pin and it ended up 95 yards to the right. And I'm like, what just happened?
Starting point is 00:11:51 So I hit another one to make sure I didn't like just hit a bad shot. And they both ended up right next to each other. The balls were next to each other. So when he pulled up to me, I said, oh, hey, how's it going? Like, thanks for setting this up, whatever. And he looks down and he goes, what's this about? I'm like, dude, I just hit two shots in the same exact spot. He started cracking up.
Starting point is 00:12:07 The wind out here's nuts. That's wild. But he saw me, like, finagling with my phone. I'm like, this guy thinks I'm a joke right now. Like, I don't know what he thinks. I think it was a good documentation of your round. Yeah, it was trying to piece it together. Like, is he, is anyone holding the phone?
Starting point is 00:12:20 No. setting it because sometimes it would be clearly in the ground and it would be up in the air i was like did you ever go back to your phone it was just like the sky you just filmed the sky because it fell over no it was so i got so lucky damn so lucky i'm impressed yeah that's good that one time people love that people love oh they love watching it yeah one time i went through a group and they happened to be four barcel fans and i was actually super nervous i was going to ask them to film me but it was just a lot there was a lot going on the water holes it was a beautiful place i wanted to take videos of it. Then they're like, hey, just go ahead.
Starting point is 00:12:51 You're a single. I'm like, ah. So I ran up there. And as I teed up the ball, the guy goes, one shot, everyone knows the rules. And I was like, fuck. Yeah. Like, I knew I was going to shank that one. And you did. No, I actually hit like a low worm burner, but it went through a bunker and went right to the fairway.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Amazing. Yeah. Good work. Yeah. Okay. PJ Tours back. Tournament of Champions, Century. Capilua.
Starting point is 00:13:12 We got primetime golf. I feel like this kind of, this kind of like sneaks up on us every year. Yeah. The Hawaii swing, the prime. time golf thing but for the next two weeks you got the Sony open after this I was looking like the coverage is 6 to 10 p.m. That's awesome. Perfect. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Next four nights. You're doing previews now I saw? You know, it's the new year. It's like it's kind of like going to the gym. Yeah. I knew that. I noticed that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I think everybody noticed that. Yeah, just, yeah, sitting around. I wasn't too long. January 1st. It's like, I'm going to crank out of a water. I will say. I will say. The guy must have tweeted all of us and then you tweet it back at him.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And you're like, I'm doing one every week. Like, we'll see. Yeah. Now the thinking there was like, I'm going to talk myself into it on Twitter. Then I can't go back. Yeah, I get what you're doing. It makes, yeah, it's the gym. And I'm not going to have Taco Bell every five nights.
Starting point is 00:14:01 There's a new Taco Bell right next to my apartment. Same. They're popping up everywhere. Fucking grand opening. They get the sign, fucking blowing on the wind, grand opening. It's like waving to me. Why can't our presenting sponsor be Taco Bell? That'd be so sick.
Starting point is 00:14:11 We don't have any, remember? No. We have no, we have none. It's your Taco Bell, holla. Man, I'd be swimming in those Supremes. How bad for you is Taco Bell? Probably horrible. If it was, but if it was that bad, we'd all be dead.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I eat so much Taco Bell, it'd fucking blow your mind, man. Yeah, you look fine. Yeah, you do. I don't know. Your insides probably look like, you know, when they, like a smokers long for 30 years. This morning I woke up, this morning I woke up like I worked out last night because I had to suck in my gut all night to the point where my stomach started hurting.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Why, are you shirt too tight? No, I was wearing like that cardigan thing. So the only thing that was shown was my T-shirt. And, like, if I was to let loose, it just would have just, bare belly would have shown just underneath the t-shirt. A little mid-drift from Frankie? Yeah, so it would have just like grazed like the desks and the tables. Taco Bell is for sure bad for you.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But we sounds like Frankie eats so much of it that he would be like in the hospital. I'm concerned. And Taco-Bos one of those places too that I, there's no possible way to order and only eat enough to where you're like full. It's one of those you eat, like you just eat until you're basically asleep or sick. Yeah. You can't stop me. Just so satisfyingly delicious.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, every bite of it's amazing. It's so good. It's so delicious and it has to be so terrible for you. Hawaii tournament, actually. We have someone from Barceles in Hawaii. Danielle messaged me and she's like, all the players are at my hotel. She's like Patrick Reed is eating lunch right now and he's like going to the beach. She's just like on the beach with like all the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Like Dustin Johnson was like with his kids and like a nanny just like playing in the sand. DJ was playing in the sand. Yeah, just like playing in the sand. like yeah like making forts and i can see him never getting out of that same i could see him like letting his kids bury him like that's the kind of dad and he's like you know like sunscreen on his nose because you know if you do that as a dad you don't have to do anything you're just like yeah cover me yeah yeah do that again bray just fucking bury me that's he was a rousing speech before yeah just bury me just bury me right now once you guys just bury me we'll have fun kids but yeah
Starting point is 00:16:11 they're all in capel leo just like she said um she was just rap she said like jeff bezos is at the hotel too I'm like, where are you right now? Does the whole fucking world converging upon this hotel? I mean, you gotta think that's like the nicest place in the world. Yeah, but you got to, I would think Jeff Bezos gets a hotel that only he occupies. Right. Dude, Jeff Bezos is so like, like movie criminal-esque. Like, you know, that name.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And he's bald, shiny bald head. Just so much. But it does take a little bit away to think that he's staying in the same hotel as Patrick Reed. Yeah. Like, maybe he's just in the area. I don't know if it was a hotel. Maybe he had to go be there for dinner or something. That guy just stay in a hotel.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Before he arrives, they build a castle. He just lives there for a week. I really think that's how it is. I'm surprised anyone sees him. Ever. Yes. Maybe that's his body double. Could be.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, like Jeff Bezos. I'm a man of the people. But I just built a robot that walks around a normal hotel. Doesn't it? I just seem like to me that he feels rich enough to me that he has the invisibility cloak from Harry Potter. That he just no one sees him ever. How could you see him? How could he just makes me laugh?
Starting point is 00:17:16 How can he make such a mistake that some normal person like Danielo could see him? That is how I feel. There's no way. That's how I feel. I feel like he just runs around and flies around an invisible station. We're also acting like he got caught saying he like wanted to like touch in a live person. Remember that fucking weird those messages? Yeah, they were.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I love you, you're a live person. That scandal is proof that everybody's a weirdo and nobody can get away with it. If you are weird and everyone is weird, which is fine. I want to have enough money to call someone in a live person. How many interactions are you having with dead people, Jeff? Get over here, you breathing human. He said, I love you alive, girl. He goes, I will show you with my body and my lips and my eyes very soon.
Starting point is 00:18:06 He's just got so many maybe robots around his house that he's just like, these people aren't real. I can't wait to see an alive person. Got that blood flowing through their veins. That's exciting These people are Oh fuck man All right
Starting point is 00:18:25 Tournament of champions So we're in Hawaii We're in Maui With the robot With Bezos with Dezos With Daniela apparently Who works with us Primetime golf
Starting point is 00:18:33 I think it's only 35 people in the whole field Because in order to get into the field You have to win There's a bunch of guys who did win Who are not playing like Tiger Rory Etcetera Tiger will do what he always does He'll play Tori Pines
Starting point is 00:18:45 It'll be the first time that he plays in like three or four weeks. He's won there, I think, eight or nine times as a professional. So next time Tiger Woods tees it up, probably a good chance he'll be the favorite. Or have at least a very, very good chance to win the tournament. Tiger Woods is 44, by the way. Happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:19:01 44. I can't decide if that feels younger than, like, you might think, or older? Or, like, too old. Sounds young to me. The reason I say that is because him and LeBron James share a birthday. And LeBron turned 35. So to think that tires only nine years older than LeBron, like that feels young to me.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, I kind of agree with that. I also think, like, what's Tom Brady? Like, 43, 42, 42, 43. Yeah. So, like, Tom Brady is still, like, winning Super Bowl's competing for Super Bowl's in the NFL. The Tiger Woods can, like, whack a golf ball. It is still young, but we've seen him so much recently in person
Starting point is 00:19:38 that he looks like he's 25. So it's like when you see that number, like, ooh. Like, he's at, like, that's all. Yeah, he and golf clothes. is like 25. Yeah. I mean, it's actually crazy
Starting point is 00:19:48 how young he looks in person. It's awesome. Alarming. Had on 25. So Tiger Woods is not in this tournament. I don't know how we ended up talking about it. I do have a question that popped up to me over break. What do you think the oldest year,
Starting point is 00:20:01 like Tiger Woods age year, that he wins at a golf tournament, a PGA tournament? Like, is it 46? Is it 56? Is it 51 years old? Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:10 why 52 hit me? 52? Yeah. It's almost like I, I look at, Phil is a test case. I watch him and I'm like, that body can still do it. Obviously their bodies are different.
Starting point is 00:20:21 How old is Phil? Phil's 49, maybe going to turn 50 this year? They're very different, but it's... Tiger's just going to be light years ahead of him when he's his age. Like, fitness-wise. Fitness-one? Because, right? Because Tiger's been through so much.
Starting point is 00:20:34 His knees is back. Phil, I feel like he had the arthritis stuff. But outside of that, Phil's like never been hurt. Yeah. He's got that long, like, kind of loopier swing. Yeah. Tiger's a robot, though. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And he'll be hopefully doing things that, like, make him his body just stay. Phil's sleeping in onesies, like, with his, like, coffee mugs and shit. And tigers, like, doing Navy SEAL workouts. And, like, texting Roy at 4 a.m. Like, hey, I'm at the gym. What are you doing? It's also a different breed. A level of talent there that just is just.
Starting point is 00:21:01 That's what I always leaned on when through the tough years where it's like, this guy, the talent is there's so much of it that it has to. If he can just get back into a groove, get back into a good mental space, then that talent's just going to come back. That doesn't go away. And I think age feels similar to me. And that's pretty much exactly what happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Like, I feel like now people don't even really talk about Tiger's swing. No. Right? Like, remember how much scrutiny there used to be over his swing coaches all the time when he's with Hayner, he's with Foley about like, oh, he's trying to get to this position and that and that. Now people are just like, oh, he's like alive. He's an alive person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. Who cares what his swing? It doesn't matter. He'll just be better than everyone. And he is. Nobody even knows. I don't know what his swing. Like, is that a good swing for him about it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It wins tournaments. And that's all he cares about it. It just doesn't fucking matter. It's like, oh, is the club laid off? Is it a little bit like, nobody cares? Like, no, he's just better at call. He's the best player in the world. And, yeah, like, unless his body, which it does have the potential to just, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:58 break down at some point. Other than that, he's kind of got it going on. Like, think about after the majors in the FedEx Cup last year when everyone was like, oh, yeah, Tiger, like his swan song was the Masters. He's like down and out. Then he had this little minor surgery. to like drain fucking a couple fluids from his knee. And then ever since then he's just, I was looking up his stats.
Starting point is 00:22:18 He's just one for one so far this season. He played in one PGA Tour tournament this season in the fall, Zozo, and he just won it. And could not have looked better. That was the best player by far at the President's Cup. He was three and O of the President's Cup, and the whole world was almost on fire that he didn't play on Saturday because he's so much better than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah. At a golf course that everyone's like, it's the most, you know, iconic golf course outside of like Augustin National that you could play at. You've got to have all the different shots. It really tests like, you know, how good you could be, how creative you could be. And, like, Tiger Woods, who's now 44 years old a couple weeks ago was just the best player at the tournament. And, like, JT was in that fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 All these guys ruined that thing. Tiger is just better than all of them. So, point is not playing. He's just not playing. He's just not playing. No, he's not playing in Hawaii. So Tiger will be back at Torrey Pines. It'll be the next time that he plays.
Starting point is 00:23:04 He is 44 years old. He's the sixth ranked player in the world. And let's do predictions. I kind of threw this at you guys beforehand. Yeah. But I would like to do some predictions going in this year. I see people throwing wild predictions out there for different folks going into the year. I'm going to lay out where the major championships are,
Starting point is 00:23:22 just so everybody's got that on their brains when they think about how many tournaments or majors these folks they think may win. Masters tournaments at Augustine National. Okay. Everybody got that? The PGA championships at Harding Park, which is in San Francisco. I know nothing about that golf course. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Not a thing. U.S. opens at Wingfoot, right? Street. Yep. I've played there probably five or six times. The course, I will say, is going to be significantly different during the tournament, obviously. It's the US Open. And Gilhance has done a bunch of restoration work over the last four years to the greens. The greens are massive. So I've got a lot of different pin locations or whatnot. But last time the US Open was at Wingfoot, Tiger Woods missed the cut. That was like a month after his dad died, maybe two months after his dad died. He missed the cut and Phil Mickelson blew it in like the biggest collapse of all time when he made a double bogey on the 72nd hole. All I needed was part of win the tournament. Pulled driver hit it eight miles left off the tent. Ended up in like a trash can. Then he hit the tree. Then he hit one into a bunker with a fried egg.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Then he hit it over the green. And then he hit one on and actually had a nice up and down for a double. That was a Jeff Vogelk, he won. And then the last major of the Open Championship is at Royal St. George's, which again, I don't really know that much about that. It's outside of London. It's in England. England. So anyways.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Oh, right. All right. All right. All right. I want to do a skill all English. You know one funny thing that I really realize that they say in Australia all the time? What? Instead of saying, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:46 They say, how are you going? How are you going? Yeah, I like it. How are you going? Yeah, that's good. Remember the guy who drove us? Were you? No, Riggs wasn't with us.
Starting point is 00:24:58 That dude that sounded like Arthur, Shelby's fucking dad. No, that's when we were leaving. We were leaving Tasmania. And this fucking guy was driving. And he was straight out of like either like a Harry Potter movie where like the drive, you know the one where the guy's driving that big. that big bus and then the thing keeps shrinking and he's just an old man just running the wheel
Starting point is 00:25:18 and he's like he was doing that with like the wheel and driving and then he talked like Arthur Shelby like well all right down to you all right's gonna be my cattle over that he did he owned a bunch of land by the airport everywhere he turned you know that was my cattle over there they're all right oh you're gonna get the out but I'm like Jesus Christ I didn't he talked exactly like that and I didn't realize it until we got to the airport
Starting point is 00:25:40 and Frankie was like you know what that guy's sounded like, I was like, who? He's like, Arthur, Shelby. And it just came flood, it just flooded right back to me. You're gonna get down right now. He sounded just like him. And he owned a bunch of land by the airport. Could have been lying, but I don't think he was.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Because he was just like, oh yeah, up here on the left, we're gonna come up on a bunch of my cattle. Up on the left, a bunch of cattle. And he's like, yep, those are mine right there. That's me cattle up there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the cattle up there.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah. It's just like, Jesus. For fucking two hours. Dude, it was crazy. And we were kind of like, like, like, cutting it close. And we're just like, dude, man, you got to stop. Like, even Lurch who talks to fucking everyone was like, man, like, I can't, I can't. Lurch does talk to everyone.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I can't have a conversation with this guy. He was, he was nervous. Because he was nervous. We were going to miss our flight. Yeah. Our flight from, wait. Oh, from Tasmania to. Um, so are we doing predictions?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Um, just like running right. There's like bold predictions, like winter just at each one. Yeah, if you have a little conversation about it. You want to do your little gift there. Is that where you want to get to? No, no, I was just, no, no, we'll do that after. You're nervously picking at that. I'm just touching things.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I don't have my laptop. I have things on my phone. You're like a kid who needs an iPad. I'm touching things. At the airport. Come on. At dinner, just give the kid the iPad and just shot them out.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So they'll just shut the fuck up. What do you think about that? You know, because I go, my parents or like my parents' generation, they all say like, I give the kid a fucking iPad. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Survive in advance. Correct. At first, it's kind of, it seems like, maybe you should be giving your kid a little more attention than that. And then I realize like how nagging
Starting point is 00:27:01 and relentless kids are. And to do anything, man, did you shut those fuckers up for like a half hour? I bet it feels amazing. Dude, on my way to Atlantis, I had a kid behind me just kicking my fucking seat. And it was like such a thin seat to the point where I like at one point,
Starting point is 00:27:16 went back, I went on my back. I tried to catch his foot through the seat. And I was going to fucking like, dude, and I was going to like squeeze it. Like, as hard as I could.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I was going to squeeze it as up. I said to Hannah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to, I'm going to, if I catch it,
Starting point is 00:27:32 I'm going to twist. Oh my God. That's what I said. I said it to her. I'm like, if I catch it to her, I'm like, That shit.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah. To a stick because it was a two and a half hour flight. Three hour flight and it was just boom, boom, boom. And I'm looking back and snarling at the mother like your child is out of fucking control. Get that kid an iPad. Dude, fly it. Kick him out of the fucking plane. The thing that'll make you want to have not kids the least is being in airports.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And we have been in a lot of airports recently. And you just watch these kids interact with these parents. I watched a kid be just so mean to their parents in an airport that it really, really I thought about getting. I thought of a fuck up. Yeah. Dude, I legitimately in my head and I was, I just felt weird. Daddy and your boss both hate you. I was like, I'm going to get a vasectomy as soon as I land wherever I'm going next.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Because they're just so, kids don't have that filter where they're trying to, where you work through a problem. And it's like, I want the iPad, but no, you've already had it for color. They're just like, give it to me right now or I'm going to throw a fit in front of all these people. And it makes you just like go crazy watching these kids interact with parents. Dude, my nephew, Robbie, is three. And at one point, he was, you know, he's just like, he wants all the toys to be his. And he's kind of a little chaotic.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And at one point, I want to say my brother, I think it was my, either my brother, I can't remember if it was my brother or my sister's a little bit. They were like, like, Robbie, if you don't play nice, you're going to get a spanking. And his reaction was he just goes, you're going to get a spanking. Oh, yeah, it was just like, that's what I realize. Like, if you got to get, if what it takes is an iPad or an iPhone or something, just let it happen. That kid will sit there for 30 minutes or an hour and just watch something and peace and quiet.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I think when iPads were first coming around, it was such a foreign idea to be like, this is how I'm going to parent my children because they were like, oh, no, when we were growing up, we just played around. We played with outside and on whatever else. Now we're so far into the age of iPads that it's crazy if you don't do it. We also don't know, like, the results of what like happens as you grow up if you grew up not being able to interact with people, right? Like, I feel like I probably used a ton of electronics.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like I had like, I don't know, Game Boys and Nintendo's shit. It's like I was always entertained, but like our parents and that generation, like, they all, like, we know that they were able to. I mean, I'm speaking like a boomer right now. We all know that they got through it and like now they're all normal. This could be the, this could be the, what the, what the downfall of 2020s? We just don't know what like, civilization could just collapse. What does that generation that grew up and not being able to speak or even look up from a fucking, some of them can't look. They can't get through their day without watching whatever is on that iPad.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They can't do it. Physically, mentally can't get through. Tommy the train or whatever the fuck's on there. They just can't get through their day without doing it. Society might just collapse. It's like what happens when that person's 30. They're going to be different. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Predictions. Tiger Woods at the Masters. Tiger Woods. No-brainer. That's my pick. Okay. Tiger Woods wins a master's. He's going to be the favorite, correct?
Starting point is 00:30:18 He has to me. Well, I mean, it'll depend obviously what happens in the tournament's leading up to it because he's going to have five or six starts before then. Ooh, five or six. Let me think about it. Torrey Pines, that's obviously one. He'll play Riviera because that's like his tournament. So that's two. Then they'll go to Florida where he'll play probably Bay Hill and.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Sawgrass. Okay. Now you're at like four. There's a WGC in there, which the match play with Kisner 1, which he always plays. So that's five. Okay. And maybe, I don't know if he, I don't think he'll go to Mexico. I'm trying to think, yeah, probably around five starts between now and the match.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So we'll know. We'll know how he's playing by then. We'll know. And you got to think, like, base right now, gone to your head. Like, he wins at least one or two of those tournaments before the Masters, right? Yeah. Well, if the tournament started tomorrow, he's the favorite, without a doubt. Defending champion, just won his last start.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Plank great. Number one. he's my pick. I mean, I just don't know how you pick against him. He's six in the world. Tiger's a sixth ranked player in the world. The guy's ahead of him,
Starting point is 00:31:13 John Rom, he will bend John Rom's brain to a pretzel just by looking at him. A lot of people are very high on John Rom right now. Really? He's been on, if you look, he's been on a crazy run
Starting point is 00:31:24 where he won a couple of European tour events and then like took a month off and then won like the Hero World Challenge and then won like the race to Dubai finale on the European tour as well. So he's actually sneaky, Rob, is one. He is, but like when you're facing the Terminator coming down like 18 at Augusta, his brain is just going to malfunction.
Starting point is 00:31:44 The only person that I think can handle it or that are ahead of Tiger right now in the world rankings is Brooks and maybe Rory, just because they've been there before. The Masters is once again heading towards it could be an all-time Masters tournament. Yeah. Like last, I guess like Tiger won. Obviously, we all know that. So it almost takes away from how good the tournament was. Like Brooks Kebka was fucking.
Starting point is 00:32:05 right there. Dustin Johnson was right there. Molnari, who was playing so well, was right there. The best players in the world, Spieth was like in one of the last couple groups. And maybe was that two years ago? I can't remember. But point being, like, there's a very good chance going in that like the Rory, Brooks Kepka, DJ, Tiger are all in the mix. J.T.
Starting point is 00:32:25 are all in the mix at the Masters come Sunday. Where the hell is Speeth ring? I'm looking at him right now. How far are you going to scroll? How far are you going to go? Holy shit. Yeah, people are going to have to see how long. 44. What a fall. Ian Poulter's one spot ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I think Jordan Spee's ever going to get back to top 10? Talk about bold predictions. Yeah. You think so? Easily. Easily? Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:45 There's too much talent there. Again, we talked about talent. There's too much talent. We have, I will say, one thing. Look at the top 10 right now that you think those guys are going to, like, fall to a place where he's going to pass them. Yeah, he's just too good. Now, I will say, having been, like, one of the coolest things about being inside the ropes and having the credentials that we've had this last year. Was you pissing off Cameron McCormick?
Starting point is 00:33:04 That sucked. that was a real shame can you move actually this guy just wants to take a photo dude I got so fucked by that photographer we told that story on the podcast right I think we did but we're yeah we did yeah we don't I mean if people remember they remember but it was that was just really funny
Starting point is 00:33:18 this fucking photographer man he's just he's fucking on his knees like trying to peek through with his goddamn big ass lens camera on the fourth tee at pebble beach and Jordan Spee's on the tea and Cameron McCormick who's been his guy for fucking ever he came out of the womb coach in Burden Spee on how to play golf
Starting point is 00:33:34 and this fucking photographer just taps me. It was like, hey, can you tell that guy to move a little bit? And you, about as uncharacteristically as I've ever seen you, actually obliged the guy's request. Normally, you'd be like, no. It seemed like, Cameron Cormick didn't seem in the time. He had like a backpack on.
Starting point is 00:33:49 He didn't seem like he was as important as he is. He doesn't rub the suntan lotion in on his face. He couldn't see from, like, behind. It was behind. I didn't know. And I just tapped him real quick. I was like, hey, can you move real quick for this guy? He just fucking stared right through my soul.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I sometimes see that in my nightmares. Me too. that look. I'm going to have nightmares tonight. Sorry, I got you off track. Going to these tournaments. You like get a look? We learned how much of a, I guess,
Starting point is 00:34:14 at least a little bit of like a verbal headcase speed is with his game. Because you can hear him. Like he legit after every swing on the range is the chatterbox. Yep. Like to Greller, to McCormick, to everybody when he's in the practice rounds.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's like every swing, every chip, he's like fucking fiddling around and like, and trying to rehearse some new patterns. and talk in every single swing. And I think some people roll their eyes when he'll say a press conference is like, it's we, it's we, it's me, it's Greller, it's McCormick. But he is actually like that.
Starting point is 00:34:43 When you watch him, he does exactly what you're saying, Riggs, he talks it through. He's like, what are we doing here? What do we got to do? What do we got to do to make this better? How can I hit it closer? How can I hit it like this or like that? And it's, he does, he, maybe tinkers with it too much. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I have no evidence to support that. Who would we are not qualified to know? Absolutely not. Over tinkers. But he does tinker with it enough that you, you, you, you, you, do think he's going to catch again where he's like he's going to figure it out absolutely i think he will i think he'll he'll 100% 100% might be it back to inside the top 10 speaking of learning seven tournaments and i was going to bring this guy up but that was a perfect segue into it the guy who i think
Starting point is 00:35:18 is going to have a big year zander shawfley this is a guy we had weird feelings about him just in terms of like whether or not he wanted to interact with us that doesn't matter this guy is cold as ice he is so chill and so just like low it's it's not low energy but it's a guy to me who has the stones and the mindset to win at least a couple tournaments and maybe a major talking ball sack no no i'm talking i'm just talking i say stones was that rolling stones oh i guess i did say stone so i do mean testicles in that regard yes but just like a low heartbeat and just like i can do it i agree that he's a defending champ this week too almost sleepy yeah he is he's like borderline of sleep but but but but like borderline of sleep but like but he's all there a heart rate monitor would
Starting point is 00:36:02 say he's asleep, but he's just walking the fairways hitting consistent golf shots. Jake's looking to me doing, I think he's doing the Leonardo DiCaprio from the departed test with the hand. Yeah, I was just looking at my hand. I was like, how's shaky am I? I also, you're very shaky. You could not be a surgeon. Do you need something?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah. No, medical attention? I've had a lot of coffee there. Okay. But Shafley, it is. That's like the departed where he's like, my hand never moves. That's in regards to killing people and being in the mob. But I think Sanders Shafley is similar in that regard.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You see that wink he gave us? He could be in the mob. Yeah, he's just, the vibe that he gives me is he's just like he could be in a huge moment on a Sunday at the Masters or any of the other majors that you listed and just being like, I think I can do this. If he looked at us, I got the feeling where he's like, he gave us that wink and he was basically telling us like, you see this brain here? I'm not even here. My body's here, but I'm not here. And I think you need some of that to like be successful. Yeah, he was nowhere I'm at right now.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He was in like his brain. His brain was like he's in like a hot tub. You think that wake looking back on it now was like a call for help. It was such a long wake. It was like, dude, I don't know what I'm doing here. It took a 23-hour flight. I'm not in control of my eyes right now. You guys are reading this.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You're going to talk about it on a podcast. You're thinking that I'm a cool, calm, and collected guy who's going to win a bunch of tournaments. I'm screaming inside. I'm like Mozart on a bunch of eucalyptus leaves. And I just can't figure it out. But if that part's not true and what I think is true is that he is just like a cool, calm and collect. That's a good call, though. I think he, that's one of the other than becoming boys with Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Being at these tournaments, you get up and close. You get to see Jordan Speeth sort of like figuring it out and how he operates. And you get to see Zander Shafley be a guy who just has it together all the time. Yeah, he was right there at the Masters this year too. Yeah. I could easily see him winning a major. So he finished tied for second along with D.J., Brooks Kepka, Zander Shafley, all finished tied for second, one stroke behind Tiger Woods. So that is like such a phenomenal leaderboard.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I will say the reason, I can just tell the story, I think, at this point about Zander Schaftly and why we weren't sure if he, like, wanted to engage with us or whatever. Okay. And it was because, I think, a year ago, but maybe 13 months ago, yeah, I feel like it was like, it was like early November last year. And we were talking with his agent. And some players we go to directly and some players we try to go through agents or whatever to get him on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And we had, like, a pretty positive start to the conversation. And then at one point in the conversation with me, his agent was like, yeah, I was like, you know, any 30 to 60 minute calling for, you know, any time the rest of the year, like we're very flexible. And then he just said at one point, like, yeah, actually he's booked for the rest of the year. I was like, wait, he doesn't have 30 minutes for the next two months. Like, book, solid. That's what you're telling me.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Like, he's actually, he's not even playing golf. Like, it's the off season. So, like, so that we obviously. I don't know if we even said this, but I think we may have said it in private to each other being like, Justin Thomas just came on the show. That's a busy motherfucker. Right. That's a guy who's busy.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Like, we know real busy. motherfuckers and they're coming on the show. They're coming on a lot of different shows. They're doing different stuff. Yeah. So that was why we were like, ah, he must not like us because there's no way he's fucking book salad for the next 60 days.
Starting point is 00:39:12 He's just kind of like, maybe he's just kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I don't even know if it got to Xander where he's like, these guys would be on the show. These ages like actually I don't know where he is. Like I know physically where his body is,
Starting point is 00:39:21 but I don't know where he is. He could be anywhere. He's just on a, he's just floating somewhere in the ocean. And where he's not going to be is on your golf. He felt the way Frankie felt when he got a massage in Atlantis. He just sort of separated from his body. But yeah, I think Zander Shoffley is going to have a big year.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Do you wins a major? I'll say yes. Yeah, I will. Who's your goddamn pick for the Masters? Zaner Shafley. Wow. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I wanted to pick. I don't want everybody to pick Tiger Woods. I don't feel like to pick Tiger Woods, but I'm picking Zander Shafel. Well, I'm going to do this. I'm going to say that I, of course, I'm going to pick Tiger Woods, but if we're doing a situation where, like, he's already taken. Frank, he's already taken him. I'm going to say Roy McRoy. I think this is the year Rory breaks through and wins the Masters.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That'd be great. He's been playing really fucking good golf. He had such a good year, even though he didn't, like, break through and have as many wins you would have thought that he would have. I feel like, too, his year was a little bit, has like a black eye on it because of how bad his first day was at Port Rush. When it was, like, right down the street from where he grew up at North Island and all that. And then he came out and started with, what, an eight or a triple or something like that? He made in the first hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And so I feel like people forget that, like, he won the fucking players. He won a bunch of tournaments this last year, and he was right there, top fives, all over the place in a bunch of different tournaments. And I think Rory, going into the Masters this year is going to be a serious threat. I think if it's not Tiger, someone random. You think so?
Starting point is 00:40:41 You don't think it's a big name? Louis Oosteusen. Usta Hoosin? Danny Willett. Maybe Matsiyama finally gets one. You know, I love Hodecki. Since I read that article, man. I just feel like it's going to be one of those years
Starting point is 00:40:53 where it's like everyone's going to be rooting for Tiger, and we're all going to be like, oh, do it again, do it again. and then someone fucking random's going to be on fire on Trevor Rimmelman. Just like who the fuck is this guy? Or like someone like Webb Simpson's just going to go like shoot like a 64 on Thursday. And everyone's going to be like what the fuck? I'm not ruined against guys like that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But boy, do I hope that doesn't happen. Don't you feel that somewhere inside? It's such like a. I don't at all. I don't either because what's a superstar winner? The way I feel right now about golf in general is that I don't know if it's ever been. I mean, it has been. But in a long time, it's so much fun to be a golf fan because it's,
Starting point is 00:41:27 Tigers back in it. He got all these young guys, Rory's rounding him back into shape. Patrick Reed is, he's just a maniac. Like, that's a great, I'm just talking in terms of storylines.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Like, it's just very fun to be a golf fan right now. You need a goddamn video game. And for it to come up as so much fun right now. Yeah, for the Masters to come around, everyone's jacked up with Tiger, the defendant champ,
Starting point is 00:41:45 and then to have a random name when I just, I don't see that happening. And to kind of add some, some color to that theory that, look at the top 12 that I'm going to read from the leaderboard from the Masters last year, 2019. Tiger Woods first. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Zander Shoffley, Brooks Kepka, Dustin Johnson, Francesco Mollinar, Jason Day, Webb Simpson, Tony Fienow, Patrick Cantley, John Rom, Ricky Fowler, Bubble Watson, Matt Coocher, Ian Polter. Like, those are fucking names. I'd love for Fienow to have a huge year. It'd be cool. Fianos is so chill. He's just cool as shit. Imagine Poulter. Imagine Poulter. Why? You're right. They burn that place of the ground.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Don't put that out there. Don't put that energy into the universe. Don't you put that on me, Ricky. two beautiful sun and both of their legs cut out from under him don't you put that darkness of is this a darkness? No he says
Starting point is 00:42:34 oh shit don't you I think he says just don't don't you put that evil on me yeah don't you put that evil good call shake uh Kiz Kevin Kizner's coming off a huge year he won 3.5 million dollars last year
Starting point is 00:42:46 he won the WGC match play we got to drink out of the trophy and we were at his house he obviously was voted the number one guy by his peers as preferred playing partner. So clearly they love him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Point is, kids had a great year. Hopefully kids has another good year. Root for him. Good luck to kids this year. I think he gets another win. I don't know where it's going to be. I don't think he's going to win a major because he's come on this show before
Starting point is 00:43:11 and talked about how little of a chance he has. Famously. Have him on just again for like four minutes and ask him every year we should do that with him. We will. We'll bring on. We just want to talk about your chances at the majors. He'll say 0 for 4 and we'll hang up on it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 We will. We can do that. That's not a problem. You mean $3 million this year? 3.5. Just give me a thousand dollars, kids. Imagine how far that would go. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:43:32 A thousand dollars would change my life. I'm fucking broke. Dude, he, he wouldn't even flinch with a thousand dollars gone. He would because he's not going to give it to you. But maybe. It doesn't change his life at all. You just take it all, like it doesn't change it at all. Dude, so when they finish their tournaments on like Sunday night,
Starting point is 00:43:56 and the leaderboards are all shuffled and done and set, then they get a text from the PGA tour, like this fucking number, like you get when your flight's like on time. They get this text on the PGA tour. It says like what place they finished, how much money they won, and like how many FedExco points they got or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And I was just thinking like, whenever I was there with him at the waste management, whenever that happened. He was like, all right, we got $48,000, wherever it was. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:44:21 that text could come in at like $63,000. He doesn't. Like, in that moment, That's that like 15 grand different. Like he doesn't fucking know. No. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:29 What's the difference? No. They could text him anything. Yeah. Man. Kids, just Venmo, Trent, $1,000. Oh, my God. Just change this young boy's life.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Just Venmo, Trent, just out of nowhere, just $1,000. You want to see me cry? Because I'll do it. I'll cry. I'll start bawling. I don't feel like you could do it. Just like, here you go, Trent. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I gave. Him and I got all. That's straight charity. That is you are a charity case. I'll be a charity case. I don't care. Him and I, people have been, we talk about this a lot, but people tweet to me about the knuckles thing.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I had a guy tweet me knuckles being like, like legitimately changed my irons. And I tweeted about it. I said, you got to give all shout out to Kisner. So maybe that's worth $1,000. You know, it's up to Kevin. My boy gets back home. One of our best friends. Terrible golfer.
Starting point is 00:45:21 You know, he's probably, he plays as like a 20 handicaps somewhere around there, maybe like an 18. Shout out. But he's, yeah, he's right around your same skill level. Sure. And he's fucking changed his grip. Yep. The only thing that was on his mind, we played this last Saturday or, yeah, this last Saturday,
Starting point is 00:45:42 maybe a day after Christmas or whatever, last Thursday, it was like 6 to 5 degrees out and saying it was ridiculous. So we all went out and played. He shot in 83. Wow. And he legit was like, the only thing that I've changed is I'm looking at two to three of my knuckles in my left hand. and I've never hit my irons.
Starting point is 00:45:57 He's just like you. He drives the ball fine. And his short game is adequate, totally fine, but his iron play's been horrific. And he now is just good at golf now. Yep. It's insane. It's that different.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And I'll do it one more time. I'll explain it one more time. If you're looking down at your hands and you, if you're righty, you're looking at your grip, how many knuckles can you see on your left hand? My answer, when Kevin Kisner asked me at Palmetto was zero. Which basically, when you're swinging trying to hit your irons,
Starting point is 00:46:22 when you're coming down, it is a steep angle. That's the way that I at least look at it. But if you just turn your left hand and you can now see two knuckles, you're strengthening your left hand grip. Yep. You will now just swing the way you were swinging before. And instead of either digging a hole in the ground because you're trying to think like I'm trying to go down on the ball or topping it because you're trying not to do that, you will still be swinging through as you hit the ball. And your irons will just be electric. People all across the internet are raving about how much this has changed their game.
Starting point is 00:46:56 This is also the same, that same concept, strengthening your grip, is something that infamously Lurge took wildly wrong, and he thought it meant grip pressure. So he was like, his hands were like black and blue because he was holding the club so tight because he thought the tip was you just have to hold the club stronger and he thought stronger meant like tighter. And I know me talking about trying to improve people's swings and stuff is, you know, weird, but it works. The sound that some of your irons made in Australia was mesmerized.
Starting point is 00:47:26 no longer get intimidated when I go to part threes because I know that I can at least hit an iron shot. You had a fucking flag stick on a part three. Yeah, I did. Before that, I would be nervous because I'm like, I'm going to dribble it off the T-box.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It's going to be horrible. Where's that footage, Jake? Nobody's going to. Oh, shit. Yeah, I did. I hit a flag stick in when we were in Tasmania. And maybe the best iron shot. One of the best iron shots I've ever hit,
Starting point is 00:47:49 hit the flag. One of the craziest holes in the world. Crazy's hole right next to a body of water. I don't know which one. And, you know, very exciting times. Everybody, I think we had four balls on the green. We did.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Four balls in the green, everybody around walking off. Producer Jake, he said, we got to go back. We didn't film that stuff. Butterfingers. You know, Trent, you hit the flag on one of the coolest part three's ever seen, and it was maybe one of the only swings that wasn't filmed in the last like eight rounds of golf. And then the film that was, uh, the swing that was filmed, put me next to a tiger snake in
Starting point is 00:48:19 Tasmania and I thought I was going to die. All about content. That's true. It did make the video way better. but I would like to have that first swing on video because like I said I can go to part three now and I feel like I'm actually going to contribute Kevin Kisner man of the people good luck this year to Kiz John Rom I'm seeing people predict all over the place that John Rom is going to win a major this year I'm going to say no fucking chance I get that John Rombs playing
Starting point is 00:48:43 really well he lit up some European tour events Spanish over all that great and John Rom is a phenomenal golfer but that guy I will never get over the meltdown that he had at the the player's championship in that fucking bunker when the entire planet Earth and people on different planets could see that there's no way he could hit this conch shot
Starting point is 00:49:03 around this tree out of this bunker over the water and his caddies is like no chance we can't do it and then he just hits it in the middle of the water and has a meltdown losing the tournament he still is like slamming clubs all the time
Starting point is 00:49:14 whenever you see him at different tournaments he pops up like that I don't think he's got what it takes yet to win a major I agree I agree it's well known but he's just got his wires are crossed or something.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So, like, there's different ways to approach playing the game, and, like, everyone has their own way. Tiger Woods is a machine. He's a robot. You can't, you can't. He has the best poker face in the history of the world. You'll never be able to crack him. Brooks Capka looks like he doesn't care out there.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Rory's got the swagger walk, like, no matter what, whatever. They all have their different things. Yeah. Like, John Rom, like, wants to be cool, calm and collected. That's the difference. It's like, he, so, so there's two mental cases on the tour, I think. And it's John Rom and Bryson D. Bryce and Deschambeau was a fucking mental disaster, but that's his signs.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Like, that's how he likes it. He's thinking literally, scientifically about every single part of his swing. From the time he takes the club back to the time he makes contact, to the time he walks to the ball, the whole thing. He's thinking. He's thinking that his wrists aren't strong enough, so now his neck is enlarged. But, like, it's crazy. Everything is just so. But that's his way of doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:18 The difference between him being a mental case and John Rahm is that John Rom is that John Ron wants to be calm, cool, collected, Brooks Cabell. like I'm gonna be like a fucking superstar and then he has explosions and sees demons like his his his papa and mama coming to his brain and like it's all the times like he like I yelled that in school or something like like like demons come out of him are you saying embrace the dark side I'm saying that no I'm saying that he needs to get that fixed oh because he's not the he's not the right mental case I mean he's hired a fucking like bomb right he needs to get he needs to be fixed Bryson doesn't need to be brison that is how Bryson ticks yeah you know what I'm saying like like like John Rahman is saying to himself as he's about to explode, like, you are a very calm, cool, collected person. You are a very calm, cool, collected person. Whereas these other guys just are. Correct.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Alexander Shafley just is. And Bryson can only operate by talking and doing all this stuff in his head and being like, ah, you know, I didn't hit the right way in it. Like, I mean, every time he sees us, we're like, oh, Bryson, good job. He's like, yeah, but I gave it away on 18. I got to be better. It's like, listen to EDM in here. I don't know what that going on.
Starting point is 00:51:18 He's fucking going off, man. He's just off the rail. Dude, we saw it right after the fucking president's come wrapped up. We were like that. We gave him like a fist pump. We're like, way to go. Bryson. He's like, yeah, I only got the half point. Like I could have got another point.
Starting point is 00:51:29 We're like, no, no, but like you want the whole thing's over. You just go party and drink. Bryson, we're walking by each other. We don't have time. We don't have time to talk about it. This is a stop and chat. This is like, not a podcast. You just fist bump and you just go the other way now.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Break my hand when we fist bump because you're huge. He's massive. He looks ridiculous. Hilariously. Phil Nicholson. What kind of yours Phil Michaels are going to have? I don't think he wins a major. I think he, I think he, I think Phil, um, competes this year.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I think he gets himself. Turns it around a little bit. He gets himself into maybe like some final groups. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna predict that Phil wins like two tournaments. Oh, no, one tournament this year. Wow. One tournament this year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:08 One tournament. No, he's in the mix, two or three of them where you're like, all right, it's Sunday, Phil's like two or three strokes back or Phil's in the final group. I think feels gonna be in the mix. No, I don't think. I think the opposite. I think it's gonna be a very quiet year. No.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He's getting up there, man. He's had quiet years. He's knocking on 50s door. He's had quiet ears. He's knocking on 50s door. And if you, I mean, Father Time, as they say, is undefeated. It just can't keep going. He knows this, though.
Starting point is 00:52:34 He did not have a good year last year. Right. And he knows this. His time is up. His time is coming. Like, this is his year now. He needs to, if he's going to go into this, he's going to give it everything he's got. Like Phil Mickelson knows that, like, these could be his last walks in competitive
Starting point is 00:52:48 golf, walking down, like, fucking driving into Magnolia down Magnolia lane doing all his fucking videos. He knows that he doesn't have that many left. So he's going to turn it around. I think that leads to pressing. I think that has the opposite. I think he turns it around like a superstar this year. So Phil last year won the Pebble Beach Pro Am.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And then after that, just fell off the year. It's a point where he was fasting. Yeah. Remember at one point he literally was fasting? He looked like a supermodel. Yep. Where he was like, I just need to change, legit everything. He fell outside the top 50 in the world for the first time since fucking like World War II.
Starting point is 00:53:19 he's ranked 70th now in the world He didn't make a team a US team For the first time I feel like in like 30 years By missing the President's Cup team So it is like it's weird to think He'll turn 50 at Wingfoot During the US Open he'll turn 50 years old So it is kind of a weird
Starting point is 00:53:37 I guess Phil gonna continue Because if he keeps going the way he's going He's going to just like disappear Right which I don't think that's like possible For Phil Mickelson I think it's like Phil goes out on top in one way or another like in his own way maybe i mean maybe he doesn't win another major but like he wins like another like the pebble beach pro am again or something like one of his tournaments that like it's just like so
Starting point is 00:53:57 phil like phil is a storyline guy phil is one of the best golfers of all time yep he we should talk about him like in some of the light that we talk about tiger woods the guy's fucking won so many tournaments like we should never ever doubt phil micklinson it's certainly certainly one way to look at it but the other way to look at it is he is going to turn 50 at wing foot he didn't have a great year last year and it can't last forever. Nothing lasts forever. And I hate to have that sort of attitude towards Phil, but because I want him to perform well
Starting point is 00:54:24 because, like I said before, he is a roadmap for the guy that we all really love. I think that's true, nothing lasts forever. I think there's a lot of evidence to support that. I think so too. Yeah. I mean, this world's going to be vanished at some point. But then couldn't you argue that like death lasts forever?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Like if you're gone, you're gone like forever. And then even if the world gets wiped out, like you're gone forever. Yeah, sure That's not bad But Thank you I guess if you don't
Starting point is 00:54:53 You gotta look at death That's the thing that is a lasting thing My thing is that like someone needs to know That you were dead Or like there needs to be an existence The last time your voice is ever going to be Or your name is ever going to be said There needs to be somewhat of like
Starting point is 00:55:06 Like if the world is vanished And you're dead Then I feel like there's nothing to know That you are vanished So it doesn't So it actually didn't last forever Because like nobody knows that you're dead Or just like nothing
Starting point is 00:55:15 Like time doesn't even even know because it's all gone. That's not bad either. Yeah. Nothing less rubber. I think that's, I think it's pretty set in stone. I think that was probably the right side of it. Yeah, yeah, of that comment.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Phil's last four finishes this fall. He missed the cut at the Safeway. Then he went 61st at the Shriners, tied for 31st at the CJ Cup at nine bridges over in Korea, and then finished T-28 at the World Golf Championship. Trending upward. I do want to say, though, that the T-28, I don't know how many people were in that field.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I feel like WGC, it's not. Like that he might have finished like there might have been 50 people on the field or something like that. It's like the hero. Right. Something like that. Yeah, top 50. But I will say that like T-31 and that one too, there's like a bunch of people get in from like the Asian tour and stuff. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So it's not necessarily the same kind of field. But there's still some good players obviously at play in those types of things. So these aren't. Point is these aren't all like miscuts. He finished nine under at the Shriner, seven under at the CJ Cup, five under at the WGC. So like you start getting close to like double digits under that you finish for the week. And all of a sudden you're, you're in some turn. I got the lefties back.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'll be singing happy birthday doing them at Wingfoot. You have to. The New York fans love them too. Love it. That'd be cool if you want at Wingfoot 50th birthday. It'd be awesome. What a fuck up that was. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:30 What a fuck up that was. He's a ton of fuck-ups. What a weird career. We've talked about it, but without Tiger Woods, he could be like the best golfer of all time. Easily. Do the guys finish? Dude, you just typed in Tiger Woods on Google.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I mean, you typed in Phil Mickelson on Google and Tiger Woods's picture popped up. No, it's just like he can't get away from this guy. That is so reflective. It's like a movie. It's just like a movie. It's like it's, he can't get this. It's actually the whole thing is the whole search is very sort of telling where it's Tiger Woods on a golf course like zeroed in.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And then the picture of Phil is him sitting next to Santa. It's like the top two stories. Yes. What a weird existence it must be to be Phil. Like you're this cocky, incredibly successful, hundreds of millions of dollars, five major championships. 40-something wins. Again, hundreds of millions of dollars, and you're just like clearly,
Starting point is 00:57:23 clearly got dominated by somebody else. Yeah. This shows how fucking good Tiger is that there's a guy out there that has that much success, and he's not even close. Not even close. He's got six second places
Starting point is 00:57:35 at the U.S. Open six times. How many times did Tiger win those? Tiger's got, oh, of the ones that he, let's see, Bethpage, definitely. You're really going to test the knowledge. Cheer. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I don't know how your brain works. Like, I can't remember anything. I can't remember anything. Really? I think Beth Page in 02 is when Phil finished second because he made a charge on Sunday. Did you finish second? I think you have a photograph of golf memory. I think I probably do too.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Especially with golf course. Ernie L. was finished second at the U.S. Open in 2000 and he was three over par and Tiger Woods was 12 under par. I remember that. Think about that. That's a crazy stat. That is a crazy stat.
Starting point is 00:58:12 My friend last night at New Year's Eve was rattling off. He knows every single Super Bowl winner and loser for the whole since 2000. Come on. Some people just got that. That's crazy. I mean, he's like, I was like, dude, you have a mental disorder? Yeah, I mean, you know? Like, if it's too good, it's like.
Starting point is 00:58:28 But he's like a police officer. He's like, you know, he's like, he's a regular, like, he's very smart and everything. And he just rattled. I was like, 2006. He's like, fucking Ravens beat. I was just like, what the fuck? Was it 2000? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I just, see, I don't know. Definitely don't know. Jake's a big Ravens fan. He's like, no, it didn't happen. 2009? 2009? It's always like the weird thing and then 2013.
Starting point is 00:58:51 2013. Are you, Jake, do you know Super Bowl winners? I just like no. I mean, if you gave me a year since I was born
Starting point is 00:58:59 since like 2000. Who won the 2003 Super Bowl? Didn't the Patriots win that? I don't know, I'm asking you. Pretty sure. I'm sure the Patriots won that. Boy, oh boy.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. Who won 2007? That was the Giants. That was the Giants. You guys can get through it, though. That was the historic one because the Patriots were about to go 18-0.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. I think that's the right year. The Patriots 010304? I think. They won all three of those. Who won 2012? Oh, that was the... I want to say Steelers, but...
Starting point is 00:59:25 Were you going to say Broncos? No, it wasn't the Broncos. I wonder how many listeners are, like, calling it out. There was definitely one listener up there that just knows all of them. Hey, listener, who won 2014? Oh, shit. Hey, listen. I love you just talking to the listeners.
Starting point is 00:59:38 This one guy I'm speaking to, like... Wasn't that the Broncos? I don't know, dude. I don't know any of this. Yeah, was that the Manning? Did I, I must have, I had 2007 wrong. I'm so wrong. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Oh, it wasn't it? Can you just get the list of them? Here we go. Just list of, 2012 was a giant. I was right on that. 2014 was the Broncos. Or no, the Seahawks won that. 2014?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yes. Really? Dude, it's amazing how long ago? This Wikipedia makes zero sense. I'm looking at this Wikipedia thing. This is right. Yeah. 15 was the Seahawks.
Starting point is 01:00:13 16 was the Panthers. There was 17. 2007 was the Colts. I know that's not right. Was 08 the Pats? That was the Giants Pats. Yeah, that was 08. But it's the 2000, that's the thing is, it's the 2007 year.
Starting point is 01:00:25 That's what I was going to say. I'm looking. So they call it the 2008 Super Bowl basically? Yeah. Even though that was the season was 2007. Like when Alabama wins like a national championship. Trent's looking at a list and can't tell me who's winning. It's giving him the score year and teens and he's like, I don't know who you read Cornball?
Starting point is 01:00:40 What do these colors mean? What do you call the thing? need a key. I need a key. A legend? The legend on the map. I've rattled off three Super Bowl winners and I'm pretty sure none of them won. If you're on Wikipedia, it's just the left side is the team that won.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I was reading the ones on the right. You were reading the loser of this room. Ooh. All right. That's enough football talk. But yeah. Photographic memory is very impressive. Very impressive.
Starting point is 01:01:05 If you go Wikipedia, the blue is the NFC and Red's AFC. Oh, that's mixed. I was reading the blue as the winner for some reason. Red seemed bad to me. me. I'll get it on this with you. I think Phil's going to win a tournament this year too. No chance. I can't believe I'm saying that, but I do. I think so. And I don't think he's going to have a cons. I think he'll go like miscut, miscut, miscut, miss cut, miss cut, win. Like, you know, I think he's going to have a weird year, but I do think he's going to win. I think we're due
Starting point is 01:01:29 for one last season where Phil and Tiger Woods are like both battling each other. How cool that way. One last time. Like Tiger versus Phil. You're living in a fantasy world. Yeah, yeah, we are. Tiger Woods won the fucking Masters last year. Everything is. Damn right. Everything is fantasy world now. I guess. We now live in a fantasy world. I think you're pushing the boundaries of the fantasy world. No, I'm not, man.
Starting point is 01:01:49 These guys are movie-like characters. We're not talking about, like, Webb Simpson here. Don't about Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods. Webb Simpson's catching a lot of shots of the show. Well, a lot of ricochish. Come on the show, Webb. Boring. I would like to talk to Webb Simpson.
Starting point is 01:02:02 You think Webb Simpson's not boring? Like, you think he, like, goes out and, like, drinks and, like. No. But I do think he's probably, like, got more personality than we think. I don't know. It's hard to judge people after a shit's a ton of money. To know Kevin Kisner so well. Not that I thought he was boring.
Starting point is 01:02:15 You just don't know. You just like see his name on the leaderboard, Kevin Kisner. I don't know anything about him. He was a zero before. Right. Yeah, you just saw his name. You didn't. How would you know that he's Kiz and funny and interesting and all that stuff?
Starting point is 01:02:26 You don't. You wouldn't. So, you never know. I bet he would be way more interesting than we think. But currently... I mean, the bar is pretty low. Right. And the way that we talk about him on the show.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Based on current perception, Web Simpson is boring as fuck. Funilinling. I've got a question for you guys as the producer of the show. Okay. Now I'm messing up. Without Tiger Woods. Yep. Who would you guys want to have on this podcast that you have not had yet in 2020?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Put that as a goal. Put him out there. Phil Michelson. I know that like that's the cliche obvious answer. Phil Mickelson, I do think we'll have Phil on. I think a lot of people too believe that like Phil would be a better podcast guest than Tiger because he's Phil. I mean, he's like with the stories and he like wants to impress you with that. Orr's Tiger would probably be a little bit more like.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I'd love to have John Rahman on. I'd love to have like Ian Poulter on Somebody that we've like Had his use with He has said he'll never come on Yeah but I could see him Go back on that I just want to ask John around
Starting point is 01:03:20 Like do you believe that you are a psychopath And like just like what That be a phone interview No I want to ask that question No I want to do it in person My answer will be Rory You better hope lurches there To protect you
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yeah That's right I mean you talk shit Yeah My answer is Roy for sure I think he's the most interesting man This boy would be a really good one too Spith
Starting point is 01:03:38 Spieth Jordan Spats up there Yeah I think Span Nathan Rory would be really good, actually. They both speak their mind, I feel like. For sure. Yeah, I want to speak to people that, like, we have, like, clear-cut, like, opinions on. I don't want to speak to anyone that, like, like, what, I mean, Web Simpson, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, I want to know about them, like, whatever. Bodyed. But, like, I like, like, we talk about John Rom so fucking much on this podcast. I want to say it to his face. That's like, he deserves that, you know? Do you, yeah, he deserves to have that moment where he gets to, like, confront us. Yeah. Like, I want to confront these people.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Do you think it's gotten on John Rob's radar that we call him a psychopath? Definitely, dude. He's a young dude on the PGA tour. Definitely, like, mucks it up with the guys on the tour. Like, they definitely, definitely. He's got, like, Twitter and shit. Went to fucking Arizona. Like, he knows.
Starting point is 01:04:24 He knows this shit. And for better or worse, Patrick Reed. Yeah, I would love Patrick Reed on the show. I, what I've decided about Patrick Reed is, no matter how he feel about him, he is top three most interesting storylines in golf. So if you're a golf fan, got to pay attention to it. And it's just like the whole thing, whether you like him or you hate him, he's polarizing. We would have said that forever.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But it's just like, I think he's, I think people need to realize like he's not going anywhere and he's just interesting. He makes the sport better. Would we ask him, are you controlling your own life? That would be an interesting one. Yeah. How would you ask it without asking it directly? I think you just ask him. You can't not.
Starting point is 01:05:04 What's the worst that's going to happen? Patrick Reed is like not going to come on the podcast again. He's not already. I would say Patrick Reed is the. the highest, uh, highest, uh, highest likely of a storm out of like a,
Starting point is 01:05:15 that's fantastic. I know, no, I know. I'm with you. But like, we started being like, well,
Starting point is 01:05:20 maybe he's doing, you also don't know that maybe he's been waiting to be asked this. Very true. Like we could be like, listen, like, we're not going to like say anything that's going to cross any boundaries here, but we just know from being investigative reporters and journalists on the ground,
Starting point is 01:05:34 boots on the ground with our credentials, uh, that we get. And we've been there, Beth page. And we've seen a. certain figure walking across, you know, putting greens and being with you during your practice rounds.
Starting point is 01:05:45 It seems like there is someone that is in control of your team and you. Is that true? Or do you have total control over what you do? You know, there's the tweets at the baseball game. You didn't have good enough seats. Did she tweet that out? Yeah. Did she tweet that?
Starting point is 01:05:59 Like, you didn't tweet that. Are you in charge? Outside of Taylor, I think that'd be our most interesting. Oh, God. People would be waiting on every word we said to him. Because he is polarizing. And people, like, it's crazy. gotten this long with this guy being in the fucking limelight with all these crazy bombshell
Starting point is 01:06:15 stories and no one's gotten any answers he always diffuses him he's always like no it's great like everything's fine yeah i mean rider cup stuff like no one's ever gotten the answer we could be the first ones to get the answer or we get punched in the face so most guys that have been like controversial we've had on the show like they've come out and everybody's loved them do you think patrick group would come off the show and everybody would like love him i think they'd love him it'd be the biggest test of that or they despise him if he wouldn't answer the question if he was just like Nope, I don't know what you're talking about. I love my wife.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Like all this stuff. Like, I don't talk about anyone. Like, wow. Okay. Cool. Think about the calculation going. Like, if that, if, if what we are asking him to confirm is true is true, then he is not in a position on this show to be able to say that.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Because then think about the tornado he has to go home to. God. Think if they did a, if they were doing like a, just like a media tour and Justine was in the room while we did the interview. I would love to be like, well. We'd have to have a camera on. All right. So this is the elephant in the room. You might get here.
Starting point is 01:07:09 eyeball scratched out. She would just like, I don't know, I'd be like, kill bill shit. Like, I'd just get a fucking just like,
Starting point is 01:07:17 one of those like ninja stars in my neck, just like, like, like, is it just, boom? And then Patrick Reed
Starting point is 01:07:26 uses that distraction to run out of the building. And it's like, I'm free. You get it again. Justine, damn it. Never have friends.
Starting point is 01:07:36 That would, I think that might go to my number one. Patrick Greet? Yeah. He's up there. Yeah. I don't know why I said it like that.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah. Yeah. I think we get more headlines out of it than anything else. Yeah, because I don't think he doesn't do stuff like that. No. He did Farity, but even that's like, I feel like pretty controlled. Yeah. And the only other time when he like has to do press for tournaments that he's at, but he doesn't do podcasts.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Maybe sat down here for an hour. I was like, yeah, ask me anything? Fuck. That'd be an awesome show. All right. Get to your predictions for the other tournaments now. Are you looking at me when he said that? Both of you.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So Tiger Woods I had, you had who is Anna Shafley for the Masters? And you had who? I had Rory because I couldn't take Tiger, but I'm really taking Tiger. Okay. PGA Championship. No, nothing about the golf course. We know that you have to buy tickets. We do know that.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You can go buy tickets. We're in the San Francisco area and you're not going to the PGA Championship. Dude, think I'm going to smack you in the face Think how much fun the PJ was last year So much fun Out of Beth page It was a fucking blast PGA of America is a world-class organization
Starting point is 01:08:46 That is run by fantastic people And they are putting on a fantastic tournament In which it is at A place that I've never been to And I'm super excited to go to San Francisco I've never been to San Francisco Are we flown in there But just driven to pebble
Starting point is 01:08:58 So it's just one of those places Where you gotta go see the bridge Gotta go look at Alcatraz You gotta do the whole thing It's a place that has a ton of history and like a ton of just like cool things. You know, like all these other cities, like, Chicago's cool,
Starting point is 01:09:12 but it's like it's just a city. You know? San Francisco's iconic. San Francisco's iconic. I think Chicago's iconic. It is. It is, but... Why, though?
Starting point is 01:09:20 It's just like... Like, Michigan, you kidding me? It's cool looking, but like, I don't know. It doesn't have the things. It doesn't have the things. Sears Tower. Sears Tower stinks, dude. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah, but it's a gross looking... No, it's not a thing. Like, I don't have to explain it. Like, Statue of Liberty is a thing. Like the Empire State building is a thing Sears Tower, a thing, Willis Tower. Do you know the name of the bridge? What?
Starting point is 01:09:42 You've just said the bridge. Golden Gate Bridge. Oh, that's so good. That would have been so good. Golden Gate Bridge. But like, and then like just like the streets are so different. It's just a unique place, right? It's like beautiful.
Starting point is 01:09:53 It's like on the water right there. It's like Michigan. Yeah, whatever. You're just like close to Chicago because you fucking go to, you live in Iowa. I did live in Iowa, yeah. Whatever. How was Iowa? Iowa was great.
Starting point is 01:10:04 It was good to see my family. Yeah. You put up a picture. I was on like, I was on the golf course in the Bahamas. And you put up a picture the same day and you were like in traffic in a freezing cold car with like your hoodie on. And you're just like, this is like it's cold. It was just so fucking Iowa. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I visited the Zach Johnson Shrine, the street right over there. I took a picture of it and I tweeted it out. He's got his own street. Anybody in this room have their own street? I don't know. I live off Franklin. Nope, that's not your name. So, you know, Zach Johnson has his own street.
Starting point is 01:10:38 It's great. It's good to be back. I took a picture of the sign and then people, somebody tweeted me. Why is it so gray in Iowa? It's a wintertime, motherfucker. It's cold and there's no sun. But, dude, when you posted that picture, I was, I was standing in like a color palette, like one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I was standing like a Bob Ross. Is that his name? Yeah. Like a painting, like on the thing that he uses to paint. Yeah. That's where I was standing on. And we couldn't have been in two different worlds at that exact moment. I kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:11:06 You like the concrete feel? Yeah, I like the cold. Like, I wear a couple layers and I'm in the Midwest again. And it's not like, I just step outside. You hear like a, you hear a swing set just like creaking in the cold. Yeah, I don't know. I just, maybe that's because I grew up around. I was there for 27 years.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I just, when I'm back there, I feel like. It's not, I'll stop. It's not that much different than like living in suburbs long out. It's the same shit. Houses, local businesses. I mean, the reason I like, because my family's there. So it's like, but I'm saying once you're in your town,
Starting point is 01:11:37 it's not that much different. Totally. I agree. Yeah, when I drive through parts of like New Jersey and Long Island, there's just like, you can tell me I'm in Cedar Falls.
Starting point is 01:11:45 When we went to go do pizza reviews and when we went for the college football game, I actually said like, oh, this looks just like any place I've ever been. But the only thing that takes you guys back is the miles and miles of cornfields that I didn't get to see. Yeah, if you drive 20 minutes in either direction. It's nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Yeah. It's like that in St. You don't have to drive far and it's just nothing forever. I had my mom's famous clam chowder. How was it? It was good. She makes it on Christmas Day, and she made it, like, differently this year, and it was a little thinner. So it was like, and it was like a big topic of conversation.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Like, as soon as I got there, right? Because of our. No, just, I don't know what happened. I think she tried to church it out. I don't know what happened, but as soon as people started getting there. She, she kind of, yeah. As soon as people started arriving, the first thing she would say to him, she's like, clammed child was a little thin.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It's just a little thin. Watery. So just a warm, yeah, watery. And then we made it like a running joke Every time someone would be like I think I'm gonna have something Be like get some of that clam chattice It'd be like it's watery today
Starting point is 01:12:39 It's thin We're being assholes So much so That the next day my mom got ingredients again No one's coming over today This is December 26th And she just made it again To prove to herself
Starting point is 01:12:50 That she could still make it It was much thicker Nice Yeah I wonder when she messed up the first time She didn't really want to talk about it She didn't know It was sensitive sensitive topic to her
Starting point is 01:13:00 What are you saying Was there like a thicker Is that what you guys were? Yeah That word just makes me a lot. Oh, is it thicker? Yeah. It was good, though.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Being back in Iowa, it was great. Jake's fucking giggling like a madman. Do you smoke today? Take any of the CDGarney. I just have to say, just Trent's mom's cloutered, clamped chowder's thicker. Yeah. Damn. I'm going to make a prediction.
Starting point is 01:13:24 It's okay. I'm going to make a prediction. It was delicious. I think Patrick Cantley is going to win the US Open and wing foot. Holy shit. Drives the ball really straight, drives it far, and putts really well. That's a bold prediction That came out of fucking nowhere
Starting point is 01:13:36 And then I think Tiger's gonna win the British Open Whoa I actually think Tiger's gonna miss the cut The British Open I don't know why I looked it up like where it is It's in the middle of fucking nowhere I think It's like It's like it's like
Starting point is 01:13:49 In relation to what I don't know like because I looked it up It was like you fly in I think you gotta like drive an hour And it's like in like From what I saw on Google Maps Like the airport that's near It's like a little mini air
Starting point is 01:13:59 It's just like a little town in England And like Tiger doesn't like get up for little towns in England. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Just felt weird. Like,
Starting point is 01:14:08 the Patrick Cannelly thing is interesting. He's, he's, he's like borderline. About where it is. He's like borderline scary. Can't we? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:17 When I see him out there again, being just being at these tournaments, he's just like, he's intense. He's got a little bit of a serial killer look to him. Yeah. He is intense. I think it's good for,
Starting point is 01:14:26 for what you're saying, you know, winning golf tournaments, but just sometimes when I see him, I'm like, he looks like a kid that was really, really, and Justin Thomas has that vibe too,
Starting point is 01:14:33 but Cantley even more. Like the kid that was like number one, which he obviously was on like his high school golf team, that took it fucking real serious and like, look down upon the other kids that like they play again. Like you just knew like, oh, there's Patrick Cantley.
Starting point is 01:14:46 He's like going to beat us all. He was never not going to make it. Yes. Yeah. Like he's got that demeanor about himself. And he also looks like he's just like born to be there and just win. Number seven in the world. I think he gets higher than people would think.
Starting point is 01:14:58 He's going to hit a lot of fucking fairways. He's going to bob it out there and he puts really well and those greens are crazy. And he's going to win the US open. my pick. Damn. It's pretty fucking good. All right, boys.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Are we done here? I just want to go through. So I had some note. I just have vacation notes. Okay. All right. It says notes to talk about on four play. That's who are here.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Here we are, man. First, this is the time to do it. Fucking perfect timing. So we're talking about the ocean club. I think Jake should smoke before every show because it makes it easier. I like when he laughs. Yeah, it makes me feel good. It loosens everybody up.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Yeah, for sure. So I went to Atlantis. I got away, you know, for the first time, like an actual vacation. You're your first vacation since working at Barstlesville. Yeah, and we do a lot of stuff that looks like it is a vacation. We just went to fucking Australia, and that's awesome. But, like, we're doing a ton of work. We don't do much, like, actual, like, seeing.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Like, we went to Australia. We didn't do any tourist stuff. We didn't get to see anything. Yeah, Melbourne was, like, the place we saw the least and we were there the most. Yeah, we like... Went to the course, went home with a bit. You got the course every single day, and when you're not, you're, like, doing videos and whatever at the other golf courses.
Starting point is 01:15:59 But, you know, it was good to get away and, like, I have nothing to do. I did some pizza reviews in the mornings, which was fine. I just edited them. It took me an hour, whatever. It felt like I was still working a little bit. Like, I didn't, I wasn't able to go without my laptop, which sucked. Yeah. But whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But the best part was, it rained a little bit. Here's my notes from the thing. Okay. Read your fucking notes. Yeah. I got a massage. Yes. This was a big moment, all right?
Starting point is 01:16:23 It rained like a day. It rained for a day, a full day. I golfed on the best day. Thank God. You know, I sent the girlfriend in the beach. I'm like we got in like a little thing where I'm just like I'm going golfing. I was like I don't know what what's going on. I don't know what you thought this was going to be.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I was like I didn't schlep these golf clubs here with like there were 80 pounds because we put like all your clothes in here. Did you get to come? I'm just going to go hit a little. I feel like I was there. I was like I'm just going to go hit a little white golf all around and trying to get into a hole and then I'll maybe come back like in four or five hours. But she was fine with that.
Starting point is 01:16:59 She went. She, like, ate lunch by herself. Such a romantic vacation, you two shared. It was the only sunny day, the whole fucking trip. And I just wasn't there. So I got off there. So one of the days it was raining and we're like, why don't we go do this couple's massage? We went to this place.
Starting point is 01:17:19 And we're staying in Atlantis, fantastic place. It's a place that everyone's like, oh, I want to go to Atlanta. It's just the name, like, Atlantis. You feel like it's in the middle of the, like, inside the ocean and like Hercules or not Hercules. Oh, yeah. Poseidon's there and shit. You know, there was Poseidon's throne there. It's really cool.
Starting point is 01:17:36 He's got to try it. It's a mixture of Vegas and Disney. That's the way I've, like, places. They have the restaurants, like Carmines, Nobu, really cool places, really awesome casino. And then also it's like the coolest water park of all time, right? So it's like a really cool place. But one of the days was raining once it went to get a massage. I was nervous.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I didn't know what to do. First one ever. First one ever. First time ever getting my body rubbed like that. Like I just, I've gone to a chiropractor ever. No, like, never even, like, I've never had the touch of a woman like that. Like, just not even in any scenario has anyone ever rubbed my back for any significant time. We got there and it was set up for us.
Starting point is 01:18:12 So I didn't know what it was going to be. I was like, maybe it's like 40 minutes, 20 minutes, the whole thing. We were told there was going to be an 85 minute hot stone included massage in this, like, tranquil. Is that the word? Yeah. Room where, like, the music was playing, birds were chirping. and we got so like it started off where I like I walked into the wrong locker room like I just followed my girlfriend it was just the woman's area and I was like oh I didn't like about to start was I felt like I was out of place like I was out of place I was the person that didn't know what to do once you got to the fucking massage place I was like I don't know they're like do you want sandals and a robe I'm like I don't know I just like everything they were saying they were and they were so just like you know when people are too nice and too like what do you need like try this tea is it's like I don't know what do you need like try this tea is it's Tell me how good the tea is.
Starting point is 01:19:01 I'm like, I don't want to fucking drink the tea. But I drank the tea anyway. I was like, it's great. I just didn't like that whole thing. I got down. They said you can go ass. You can go ass out, which I chose to keep my Tommy Johns on. I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:19:14 It's a couple saying we're in the room. I didn't know if I should expose myself. The first one. First one. You know, I kept the Tommy Johns on. Sure. I probably would have done the same thing. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:22 So we're both in there. And, you know, the two ladies come in and she's right next to me. My girlfriend's getting the massage in the same room. So it's like a whole. experience and I'm like and I'm nervous man but I'm sitting there and I think the biggest thing that's ever that I had that I didn't know that I had to do that I figured out within the first five minutes was you need to figure out where to place your face on that little fucking holder because if you don't find a comfortable spot it's it's horrifying like you're like there's a little paper on it and
Starting point is 01:19:50 you're like it's getting sticky and like you don't you don't know if your eyes like getting fucking bulged out of your head so I found that spot man and I like I turned into a fucking puddle man this lady was she was rubbing my back like she did things to me you're like in there you're like in there you're like in there you're like my girlfriend's in here
Starting point is 01:20:11 bro at one point she fucking at one point she at one point she took out the stove I was so I was so relaxed and so fucking calm and it felt so good at one time at one point she took this stuff with that
Starting point is 01:20:35 keep going get there You got it. She took the stones out. And she's like, it's a little hot. So let me know how it. She's like, she's like, is this hot enough? And I swear to God, I let out like, I don't know what happened to me.
Starting point is 01:20:48 I hadn't talked for like 40 minutes. And I was in another state. And she goes, how's that? And I was like, it's good. I fucking moan, dude. It was like. And then like, what was that? I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I literally said, yeah. But it was like something was in my throat. I'm crying right now. Something was like in my throat because I had. hadn't talked for 40 minutes and like I was drooling and I was just I will say when I'm drooling everywhere when I got when I would get my massages I would drool when your face when your face is looking down and like the the sort of donut shaped thing you're supposed to put your head on to the I figured out my spot was just forehead on it and you look down and then
Starting point is 01:21:30 you just start uncontrollably drooling as the massage is going it's it's quite an experience she's like she's like is this okay I went yeah and I was like I don't and then I But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good. But it just, I let out just this, the, this, this, I let out just the faintest, just, yeah, it was bad. You told me. At one point, I thought I pissed my pants. They put the stones in between my legs at one point. And then, like, I just thought, like, the overwhelming heat and everything.
Starting point is 01:21:56 And I was just so calm that I just started pissing the table. I literally went up. I'm like, I don't know what I just did. And she's like, you're fine. Everything's fine. I was like, I don't. She's like, it was the stones. I was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:22:06 But it felt good, man. It went, it felt really good. They did some things to me. that I didn't know it could happen, you know, like touching my fingers and waggling my fingers and then you feel it all the way up in your shoulder and shit. You're just getting your hands massage. It's like, massage my scalp.
Starting point is 01:22:20 I swear to God I almost fucking shit on the table. I swear. Dude, I was so relaxed. I thought my bowels are just going to unleaf. I was sitting there, she was rubbing my spot. She was rubbing my scalp. I was like, oh. I was just like, she was my puppet master,
Starting point is 01:22:36 and I was just, and dude, you know when they move your arms and your hands of the purse? certain positions and you just like you are just dead like she was moving my arm and i was like this like oh just like my arm was heavy i will say as a person who has gotten them but before i had the head thing you don't see coming you don't realize how great that's going to you think like a massage you're going to get your shoulders and your back and maybe your legs and arms when they go for the head wow it's over it's over uh it was a great experience clearly then i went to the steam room and sweat that out and i mean this place was
Starting point is 01:23:09 fantastic. Atlantis is five star. I mean, everything about it was great. Really good stuff. And then the other last note I had was, Devontaves on the New York Islanders. I don't know if I ever told this.
Starting point is 01:23:23 2020, it's great to be back. I don't know if I ever told this story, but he got, when we went to Chambers Bay for me guys, he got me wine. And I've never told, I never told this story because I know he listens to every podcast or someone will send him it,
Starting point is 01:23:35 whatever. He knows anything that said about him. And I was nervous to talk about this story, but I'm going to talk about it now because I never talked about this, right? The wine. Nope. Really quickly, we went out and played Chambers Bay with Devonte's and his buddy, Maddie. Nope.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yep. Yeah. Maddie Revell and Devonte's met him in Chambers Bay, me and Riggs. It was what, like, that wasn't Labor Day. Memorial Day. Memorial Day weekend. Met him in Tacoma. We played Chambers Bay, Aldera. The whole thing, we've talked about that a million times.
Starting point is 01:24:05 And we were going out to dinner one night, and Devon came over. to me and was like hey like where's your room uh i have a gift for you and i was like oh shit like nice whatever so he comes to my room knocks in the door and it's these two bottles of wine and like we've talked you know like when you're talking to like it like he's my guy now like we're boys but like at the time like i'm you know you're just meeting him and you're getting to know him you like anything that he may say like you like just agree with him you're trying to relate and he's like yeah i'm a huge wine guy and like i drink wine like to a point where it's like i know the different like like what I like.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I know I like peanut noir's and all that stuff, but I'm not like the biggest wine guy of all time. I'd rather drink beer. Like, that's just who I am. But I'm like, yeah, I'm the biggest wine guy of all the time. So he brought me two bottles of wine.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And that's just how that happened. And so I was super thankful. They're awesome. He's like, yeah, these are from British Columbia. Like, you can't even get these anywhere.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Like you got to go to the family estate that's there. It's like a certain fucking kind of wine. And I was like, all right. Do you know this story? No, but I doesn't feel like it's going. And so.
Starting point is 01:25:06 So we were flying out like the next day and we had a ton of problems with our hotel. Like remember. It was a trailer. We were at Chambers Bay and they called us and said your room is no longer available. We have to take everything out of your room and like put it in storage. And then like you need to get another hotel. And something happened. Dude, somebody had booked the rooms for us and they just booked them for just one last night than they were supposed to.
Starting point is 01:25:27 So like I knew that everything was fucked and and I just didn't know what to do with this wine because we were flying straight from Chambers Bay to. to Boston for the Stanley Cup finals. There was no stoppage. And we were going straight from Boston to St. Louis. It was never a stop. So I knew I had like a week and a half more of traveling with this little amount of luggage that I had. And I had golf clubs, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I didn't know what to do with these two bottles of wine. I didn't have enough time to talk to the people at the hotel because they stunk. The hotel sucked. And I didn't know what to do. So I remember just going and just like talking to, I just like, I just like, like took the bottles of wine and I just put them on like the front counter and just left. And I'm like, here's, I figure it out. And I just didn't, I didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:26:16 We left at like 2 o'clock in the morning. And I lost the wine. The wine was gone. And I, for months and months and months, because I just didn't want to put it in my luggage. Everyone's like, why didn't you put it? Because like, you're traveling with wine. I don't know if they're fucking going to explode all over my clothes. I only had a certain amount of clothes for the rest of the week.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I'm like, what am I supposed to fucking do with these two bottles of wine? So I left him. And it was the wrong thing to do. And what's even more wrong was that I lied to Devon for a year. And every single fucking time, this guy would talk to me. He's an NHL player. Why does he care so much about the wine he gave us? He's too nice of a guy.
Starting point is 01:26:49 He's like, I'd be like, what are you doing tonight? And I'd be like, oh, I'm going to the movies. I'm going to go see a movie. He's like perfect night to come back and crush that bottle of wine. I'm like, dude, it's like he knew. And I was like, it's like he fucking knew. And I was like, yeah, man, it is. And I think I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And every night he'd be like, how was it? I'd be like, oh man, it was fucking awesome, dude. Like, this wine's sick. He'd be like, which one do you have? I'd be like, the other one. Like, I just never knew the name. And like I didn't, he's like, when are you going to send me a snap? I'm like, I don't have, I just couldn't tell him I didn't have it.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And one day at Borrellys, he came over, we were having lunch. And I'm just like, dude, I have something to tell you, man. I can't do this anymore. It's been like six months of this bullshit. I lied to you the day that I told you that I took the wine back. And I've been lying to you ever since. And every single time I tell you that I'm drinking it. I've never even taken a sip of it.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I don't know the name of it because I left it in Tacoma and it's gone and they're gone forever. And he's like, I wish you would have just told me. It's not that big of a deal. I made such a big fucking deal about it in the office. KFC knew about it. Dude, he would, every time there was a new update of,
Starting point is 01:27:45 you know, Devon would send him like, yo, you should drink that tonight when you and your girlfriend are watching that movie or whatever. He would give us updates to the point where what you said where it's like, we think he's in on it. We think he knows. Like the hotel was like,
Starting point is 01:27:59 hey, your friend left these bottles of wine here. Would you like them? To the point where we thought, that he was in on it. It would be great if the whole time he knew that you didn't know that he knew. And the worst part is that he's too nice to like, dude, he just genuinely wanted me to enjoy the thing that he gave me. And I told him and whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Dude, they got to the point where KFC was like, all right, be like, hey, I just had one of the wines, but I gave it to someone else. What was the name of that? And then when he said that name, then they'd make, no, no, no, the other one. So I'd have both bottles and then I'd order them somehow online. Like, dude, we had the whole thing planned out. I never could pull the trigger. Anyway, the other day during this break, I picked him up. I picked him up.
Starting point is 01:28:38 We went to go get lunch. And he actually comes out to the car with a box. And so his parents came home from British Columbia. And he said, I opened up the fucking box. It's the two bottles of wine. I'm like, what a fucking move. He's like, you better not lose these. That's very fun.
Starting point is 01:28:55 No way. Oh, yeah. So what I'm going to do is I'll bring in the wine. We'll enjoy one of the glasses while we do the next podcast. Wow. Right? We'll do it when we do a night. We could have done it tonight, but I had so much shit I was traveling with.
Starting point is 01:29:06 We'll enjoy a nice bottle of wine from Devonters. His dad met me at the game. He's like, yeah, oh, you know, like, is it a Canadian? He's like, yeah, he sent me over to this winery. I didn't know why. And, you know, it's just, yeah, it's your bottle of wine. I'm just like, yeah, I'm like, it's a long story. I don't really feel like.
Starting point is 01:29:20 His parents think you're the biggest wine guy ever. Yeah, it's crazy. Frankie always drinks wine. I ended up getting them back in my possession. But it was a really bad situation that I put myself in. It's a really good lesson for all the listeners. just don't lie. Like don't, don't put yourself in the situation.
Starting point is 01:29:35 No, it's not a lesson for the listeners. It's a lesson for you. No, because you know, some people. You find yourself in these scenarios all the time. It's only a Frankie. That's only a Frankie story. Everyone else would have been like, hey, man, I was Russian. I wasn't going to go home.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I had to, you know, I couldn't take those bottles of wine with me. So shout out to Taser. He's great. And also, he's been liking my tweets. So shout out to Devon. Any Islander fan listening, go vote for Brock Nelson. American hero. Good guy who loves a game,
Starting point is 01:30:03 plays hard. He's up for the All-Star game. We're going to put him in. Go vote for Peron for the Blues. I am going to end this show, if that's okay with you guys, with a nice little light-hearted thing here. It's the holiday season.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And while we were gone, our guy, so Riggs, you've never met this guy. Nope. But Trent has, and he is a lovely human being. One of the, maybe the nicest person I've ever met. Talking about a guy named Matt LaValsy. And he is at Cherry Valley Country Club
Starting point is 01:30:26 in Long Island. I've been putting up videos like crazy like that. We will all be going there and enjoying. to what Cherry Valley is. And it's a fantastic. Great logo. A plus plus. And let me tell you something about the logo.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Watch this. Ready? So I opened. So at my desk, he sent this to us and we're out of the office for the week. And so he sent this to us on Christmas or like the day before Christmas so that we could all enjoy it. He's never even met Riggs. And he sent this to Frankie Riggs and Trent. This is with this guy.
Starting point is 01:30:51 How nice is that? I want to wish you guys a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thank you for all that you have done and what you do for the game. Your podcast has brought life back into the game, which it's been missing. for some time. Here's a sneak peek of the new logo we're introducing next year. I look forward to playing some rounds with you guys next summer. Matt LaValsy, Cherry Valley Country.
Starting point is 01:31:09 So we're going to, I mean, it doesn't do anything for you guys listening because it's a fucking podcast. True. But I'm just going to open this up. I wanted to give Matt a shout out. I haven't seen the new logo yet. And I love shit like this. Like when like, that's like so cool that like golf clubs are like introducing new logos
Starting point is 01:31:21 and stuff. He has it all wrapped up. It's wrapped up. He said we're like breathing life in the game. Pretty good. Pretty good job there. What? Your podcast has brought life back to the game, which has been missing for
Starting point is 01:31:31 Sometime. Oh my. Our light, our podcast brought golf back to light. Incredibly nice. Wow. Imagine that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:37 So Frank is opening this pop up. It looks like a quarter. No, it's a polo. Polo. It's a striped polo. It's a fire, fire.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Old school. Yep. Old flag. It's got like a wooden stick as the holder of the flag. It says 1916, which is the original year. He got a ball of us in different sizes.
Starting point is 01:31:56 And all time logo. Showing it to the camera now so people will be able to see it. Shout out. See, this is like, this is what we're talking about. is just a good dude that that works in the golf industry that knows what it's about he's not this fucking ben huggin or whatever that guy's fucking name john hugging john hugin and the guy
Starting point is 01:32:11 we're running off twitter this is what golf's all about we talk about smack and trents balls into into snake infested waters and bunkers and you meet right people and this is whose country clubs aren't about like old crusty men that hate the game of golf and make you like have to be a certain way. You got guys like Matt that know what it's about and they know that like changing logos is cool and you know what I mean? Like I just love everything about this. It's so just us. It's our brand. Like this is this is who we're talking to. Guys sitting at a golf course every single day of his life teaching people the game and he's just like, dude like let's just have fun and be fucking awesome as opposed to like stuck up and like you're not allowed to play this game. You know what's really
Starting point is 01:32:53 cool is I got a message from a guy who he said he was at an extremely exclusive private club. He's playing a member guest. This was very recently the last couple weeks. And he said out there they took a poll of like everybody that was involved. And it's all these members and their guests. Obviously this like exclusive, relatively stuffy place, places you would consider pretty stuff. He's like, we took a poll and talked.
Starting point is 01:33:11 He's like, you would not believe how many four play fans were in that crew. And the whole point is exactly what you're saying, Frankie, which is that like, it's not about being assholes of a clown. We don't believe in any of that. It's just like, if you just genuinely love golf and believe in just having fun playing it, no matter what that means, like we said, you play the hat backwards. you play shorts, you play a music plan, you play by the rules,
Starting point is 01:33:30 you tee up every shot from the fairway to the rough to the tee. Who cares? As long as you're out there having fun, that's all it matters. And changing logos is very fun. Yeah. And it can happen in places in which you wouldn't ever expect it. Like, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:42 you're driving around Long Island, you see all these country clubs and these stuck up places and all these things. It's like, dude, there's people in there that just want to grow the game the way we want to grow the game. It has nothing to do with like, I don't know. It's just like, like, I always get nervous when I'm showing up to new places like that,
Starting point is 01:33:56 like new country clubs, meeting new people. When I met Matt, like, it, like, he says we're, like, bringing light into the game. Like, meeting the guy like that makes me want to play more golf. Yep. Because that's a teacher of the game. He's a pro. And he's like, he cares about this shit.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Like, so the same way we do. Like, not about X's and O is like, dude, we'll go out there and he'll fucking shoot a 69, 70. And he doesn't care about that. He's just like, are you guys? He goes, did you guys try the Coke in the fountain drinks area? It's just like, he doesn't care about any of the actual. Oh, we had the peanut butter and pretzels. He's like, dude, go, go enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:34:27 take two drives if you need, take your time. He doesn't care what you shoot. He doesn't care what he should. He is a great guy. Yeah, but like, and there's a million people like that out there. That's why you just got to get out to golf courses and meet people. You have to.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Well, thank you. Huge thank you. Thanks to Matt. Thanks to Matt. Happy New Year. Thanks to all the listeners because there's, there's tons of mats out there that, you know, are just like grinding at golf courses and just like waiting for their moment.
Starting point is 01:34:54 And you know what I mean? It's just like, I don't know. I love, I love. I love this shit. I love people like that. A little emotional moment. I love it. Oh, it's cool. Thank you, Matt. It is very cool. The logo's awesome. The wooden stick is. You see how it's got like a little branch on it?
Starting point is 01:35:05 It's so sick, yeah. All right. We'll be back on Tuesday. It's a tournament of champions. Kiz is out there. JT.'s out there. A bunch of good players out there. Ball flies like a million miles in the air in this one, right? Well, there are a couple of holes, like the 17th and 18th holes. They're like downhill off the tee towards the ocean and people hit like 500-yard drive. Yeah. Yeah, DJ will hit like a 420 yard.
Starting point is 01:35:29 This is where, this is where Brandl called it the greatest shot in history of golf. He almost drilled. It was like a 435-yard par 40. He almost hit it right in it. And Brantle came on and defended to the death. There was the greatest shot ever hit. And he could have what he does. So it's hard to argue.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah, he's a good at a Christmas party and someone was, we were talking golf. And I think it was like Hannah's uncle. He's like, yeah, he's like, that fucking guy. brand brand i'm like brandle shambly he's like i just fucking some of the things that guy said just drives me nuts like that guy is so polarizing dude i bet if i ask my dad or my uncle who's really in the golf like i bet if i even uttered brandal's name they'd be like this fucking yeah that guy but like we've got to know him obviously over the years and he's just he's a great guy but he's but it's a testament to how good at what he does that people have an opinion of him that's the whole
Starting point is 01:36:19 point yep look at how good skip bayliss right look how good these guys are what they do and it's like if you've got people that's fired up you're doing great job. 100%. Stephen A. Look, he's the best in the business. So funny.
Starting point is 01:36:30 He's phenomenal. He's the best ever. Stephen A. Smith is must watch everything he puts out. Everything. It's the running storyline with the Cowboys and him putting the videos up smoking a cigar with a hat on. It's just, they're showmen. And that's like, Brandl is that to the golf world for sure.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Amen. Amen. He's, Lucifer. He's just the funniest. Just, I don't know if people... Not enough people know him, I don't think. He writes such serious long-form pieces about, like, the game of golf and where it's going and how he doesn't like the new, like...
Starting point is 01:37:04 And the new form of golf fans. I'm pretty sure he hates us, but he also really likes us. He hates what we stand for with the game. He genuinely does. It goes against everything that he wants, but he loves us. Yes, that's right. And that drives him nuts. But also, like, it also makes him like us even more.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Correct. That's exactly. He does spot everything that he's been. built and based his career upon is to tear down what we stand for but he can't help that he likes us all and we saw him at bed page and riggs
Starting point is 01:37:33 wasn't with us and he goes to me a trace like where's that slither and fuck rakes where i fucking i'd like to take his fucking tongue out and just stick it on the 18th t-box but but i fucking love him like it's just like that last sentence come after you should you want to take his tongue out and stick it on the t-bob he's the best i would like to have him on the podcast but i don't it's like you need that version of it
Starting point is 01:37:52 i don't know if you do it no i think i like asked one time. His response is like, not with you miserable cunts. Yeah. He's just, he's an ultimate, ultimate character.
Starting point is 01:38:02 He's a great guy. And I hope people now read his stuff with knowing that that's the kind of guy he is. Because I don't know, like you said, that people know that. Like he put out a really serious video the other day about how guys were playing in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 01:38:14 And it was like, it was like something straight out of like, Mr. Deeds when like they're doing the news reports. And he's just like, he's standing in front of like a news report thing. And he's just like genocide, golf. It's just like, whoa, oh, even like, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:38:28 But, like, he's a funny dude, man. He's awesome. Yeah. I love him. I don't know why I start talking about him, but he's just, he's always on my mind. He's on golf channel a little bit. Yeah. He does, like, morning drive stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:38 I think the show that side of him would be on, like, a platform like this. He would be the Stephen A of golf. Like, everything that, every video he put out would be must watch if he talked to the way he talks to us. Correct. If he came on this podcast and spoke like it wasn't a podcast, he would be the most popular guests we've ever had. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:38:52 He is fucking hilarious. Stop last. Yep. Okay. All right. Tournament of champions, enjoy it, pride time golf.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I picked J.T. this week to win. I wrote it in my preview because, like I said, doing the New Year's resolution, feel real cocky. I'm going to be following that. What do you think the week is?
Starting point is 01:39:06 What's the over on? I don't know. What week does the preview just stopped? Boy, that's a great question. I don't know. I think the more we talk about, the more you're not going to stop it.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah. That's why I'm bringing it up. Yeah. I'm going to keep bringing it up. I have this whole plan. I don't know. I will say, too, The previews are, there's a little bit of a cheat in it that, like, I've done one for every tournament before.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah. So I kind of just, like, I can go through the pictures are all the same. So when you don't have to find pictures, that's huge, as you know, from blogging. It's a lot of it's formatted the same. A lot of it's formatted the same. So I just change a lot of the phrasing and the predictions and stuff like that on some of them. It's courses and the holes, like, you don't have to tweet too much. So, again, this will be justifying how it's, like, very doable.
Starting point is 01:39:43 But the preview for this tournament, it's up there. You can go check it out. Barstlesports.com. It's a great website. You're doing it every week. 52 previews. We can't talk about it after this, though, because then he'll keep...
Starting point is 01:39:53 Yeah. We'll keep keeping the ball in the air. Every time you talk about it, it's more likely that I'm going to keep doing it. Right, so this is the last time I'm going to talk about it. You guys don't want it to be done. And then the first week you don't do it, I'm throwing a fucking party.
Starting point is 01:40:06 It's going to be ruthless. I told you. All right. We'll be back Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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