Fore Play - The United States of America Win The Presidents Cup

Episode Date: October 3, 2017

On this week's episode of Foreplay, Riggs and Trent proudly discuss how the United States of America absolutely dominated the international team in the Presidents Cup over the weekend. While DJ and Spieth were killing it on the course, Kisner was killing it in the stands, slugging beers with the fans. Phil Mickelson had an awkwardly hilarious exchange with a foreign reporter. Trent even got to take a selfie with Paulina Gretzky. As always, we finish off with some questions from the gallery!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Hello, Trent. Hello, Rett. What is going on? Nothing much. We are in the studio. It feels good to be back, although it's a little cold in here. But we're going to persevere. I'm wearing a beanie on my head, so I'm ready to rock.

You know what season it is? What season is it rigs? Quarter zip season. It was quarter zip season out at Liberty National this weekend. Yes, it was. Saturday. We're going to get all into it. We've got a ton to talk about.

President's Cup, team golf, all kinds of excitement, big names from the young stars to Tiger Woods and Phil. An interesting shit going on in between. Saturday was cold out there. Saturday was cold. Friday, we went out Friday as well. Saturday was just cold. It was too cold, but it is. It's quarter zip season.

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Okay. Thank you. I had an interesting day. I met the mooch today. That's right. For those of you that are, well, I mean, I don't know how you don't know who the mooch is, Anthony Scaramucci. Everybody knows.

I will say that I dropped a little bit of a golf question, just to get a sense of if he's a golf guy, and then I was going to immediately have him on the foreplay podcast. He was like, yeah, I don't play golf. Nothing. No. That was pretty much like the only thing he didn't... He didn't like elaborate on...

Elaborate on for 45 minutes was golf. What was the question you asked him? I was... I asked him something like... So, you know, we're talking obviously a good amount about Trump. And I was like, so... If most people, most Americans that have X or Y opinion, played a full four and a half hour round of golf with Donald Trump,

do you think they would walk away being like I love that guy and he was like absolutely I don't play golf but if I did I guarantee it or something like that would have been my answer as well I mean it has to be there has to be a reason why everybody wants to play golf with him even though he is the most powerful man in the world but there has to be other reasons yeah I mean by all accounts he just sounds like an absolute hoot

to be out there playing with we've also blogged and tweeted about nonstop his golf rules that have leaked around about how he just takes his card everywhere and he always has to tee off first laugh out of lot of funny stuff so anyways President's Cup the gang absolute dusting

by the United States of America you know I will say that I said I believe they will win but I think it'll be closer I think I wrote in my blog that I thought it would be 16 to 14 is what I was putting my money on it was not nope it was 19 to 11 it was a shit kicking 19 to 11

doesn't even really do it justice no it doesn't because they really the international team played really well in the singles matches whether that's because they played really well or the American team is just kind of like, let's get the fuck out of here. But, yeah, it ended up 1911. I'll tell you what,

the people are shit on this event right now. They're saying somebody's got to fix it. We've got to figure out how they make this competitive. But in the moment, I had so much fun this weekend following this because there's so much cool stuff that came out of it. Obviously, I'm an American fan, so I can say that. It was very one-sided. But the moments we got between a lot of the guys throughout the weekend really made it worth it

for me as a viewer, at least. Yeah, and it's, I think a big takeaway from this is the bright, exciting future of the squad. I know that was a little cliche of me to say there, not necessarily something that you would expect to get from the Foreplay Golf podcast boys. But this almost was a stepping stone, a, you know, a fight to get to the number one contender spot. Yes, I know that we won the Ryder Cup last year, but it does feel like we are primed now going into France. next year for this American team that suffered a lot of fucking embarrassing hit after hit after hit from the Europeans for the last 15, 16 years, whatever it's been, we are primed to go on a fucking run.

Yeah, not to jump ahead too much, but if you watch the press conference yesterday, the American press conference after they won, watching Spief mess around, watching Justin Thomas mess around, watching Patrick Reed, you know, laughing his ass off at things Spee said, Dustin Johnson up on a chair singing, C. Wu shaking that ass. Shaking that, to me, C-woo, shaking that ass, shaking out ass, shaking out, ass. Next to the truckloads of talent that the American team clearly has, the chemistry that they have makes this such a formidable team

going to every team event going forward that if I'm the international squad, if I'm the European squad, I'm looking at that being like, God damn it, we are going to be screwed. And let me ask you this, what do you think is the main cause of all of this? Is it go back to Phil Mickelson at Glen Eagles? Is it the way Tiger sort of motivated this generation as like... Yes.

That's exactly what I think it is. I believe that we are seeing the product now of Tiger Woods. Yes, he's whatever, 41 now. Is he 41 or 42? I think he's 41. He's 41 now. You know, a lot of these guys are... I mean, half of our teams, like 24, it feels like.

That whole crew of guys, I think, what, J.T. Burger and Spieth, are they all 24? That's the class of 2011 guys. Yeah. So those guys, you know, if you do a little math, I don't want to get too technical here on the Four Play Golf podcast. But if you do a little math, you're going to realize that, you know, when those guys were young kids coming into form, entering junior tournaments, Tiger Woods was at the peak of his game. He is the inspiration. They all know that. They all say that.

So now we have gotten this crew of kids that grew up practicing, you know, massive fist pumps, seeing what Tiger Woods was doing and the way that he was dominating and the way that he was dominating and the way that. that he was closing and winning golf tournaments and doing it in a savage manner. And that is kind of what's ingrained in their brain is not to be like necessarily some country club guy who's kind of like weeee woozy out there. But these kind of savages

that are built to dominate and they had it ingrained mentally to dominate. Like Tigerwood dominated. They were inspired by that. The Nike, the athleticism of it. Not again, not necessarily like the traditional golf country club type vibe, but more of like oh, this is a stellar athlete who's choosing

to dominate golf and he's going out there looking to kick everybody's ass and now we have gotten a crop of guys that are you know a bunch of them uh under the age of 29 28 who are very talented very committed very driven savages who also and phil loves the loved to highlight this uh a bunch yesterday who genuinely root for each other's success because they are good buddies but who also you know are crazy competitive and want to fuck and win. And now they're all out there together. They're doing it. We've got teams. We've got JT. and Fowler, who were teamed up pretty much the whole weekend, except I believe when Berger jumped in with JT. We've got the Reed Speed pairing that's been, what, three team events in a row now, where they've,

you know, been put together and absolutely brought it, maybe four team events in a row if you go back to a couple of Ryder Cup. So, yeah, I think the main catalyst is Tiger inspired. I think it is too, but I also was thinking about the fill effect, because the, the The Tiger stuff is obviously them as individuals with their careers. They want to win. They want to win. They're not scared to win. You hear that a lot from guys who are inspired by Tiger.

I thought this was an interesting tweet from Keegan Bradley. I don't know if you saw this. He said, when I look at the U.S. partnerships this week, every team Phil has brought together for a Tuesday game, something I know he's planned. Awesome. That's the end of the tweet. I think you, like the fierceness and the winning comes from Tiger,

but then I think the sort of we're all one big happy family comes from Grandpa Phil. Do you feel that at all? Yes, and I think that, I mean, that's definitely. a good point and I think that you know that almost came from Europe I mean that's kind of I think that somebody called like the European Ryder Cup winning playbook

yeah is kind of what we took with the task force and we love to make fun of the task force probably the dumbest idea of all time to call it a task force that was the main thing the brand or something don't tell anybody and just do it just go have a meeting and like talk about shit and then do it the task force was the branding of the task force that they told people and then they called the task force

other than that it is worked out in spades for them. Yes. So, yes, when you put all of that together, that combination, and really, I mean, we can talk about the Tiger Effect, we can talk about the fact that we've stole the European playbook. We've got really fucking talented young golfers. And at the end of the day, just go play better golf than they did. And we did this past week.

One thing that I don't think is being talked about enough is that the internationals played like fucking dog shit. Yeah. I mean, I was looking, I was very curious about this because, don't get me wrong, there were flashes of just brilliant golf, especially Saturday in really tough conditions. And you're always going to see it in Sunday singles, mostly because they don't show all the shots in Sunday singles, which drives me crazy. They usually just show a lot of the highlights.

So it looks like you're seeing good stuff. We still saw a lot of balls going to water. But on Thursday, I did a little, I was looking through some of the results. Hedaki and Charles Swartzel were, they lost like six and five. They were five over par as a team through 14 holes. You can't do that. Not against this, not against this U.S. team. Griot and Siwu Kim, shaking that ass, four over through 14 holes and they got smoked.

So, I mean, you can't go out and play shitty golf and expect to win, and that's how they found themselves. I mean, I don't think anyone thought they're going to win, but the fact that they were at an 11-point deficit going into Sunday. Yes, the Americans were playing really good golf at really good times and doing some awesome stuff. But I thought the Europeans just kind of played like shit. I mean, Hadeki got sat Saturday morning. He's the number three ranked player on

planet Earth. He got sat Saturday morning. Charles Swartzel, who was a master's champ, got sat all day Saturday. You know, those two would go out both of them and win their matches on Sunday, but I mean, that's already over. That's like a garbage fantasy football time touchdown type move.

And people can't forget. I don't don't think people will forget that they, the U.S. team came a Lahiri, like two Lahiri putts from clinching this thing on Saturday. Yes. Like, Lahiri was nails down the stretch on Saturday just to extend the thing to Sunday where they got blown out of the water. Like, if they would have clinched this thing, if U.S. would have clinched this on Saturday, I don't know if they should just like blow up the event.

Like, stop doing the President's Cup if that had happened. I really didn't know what to expect there. You know, people that weren't following golf, that don't follow golf. too closely we're like so wait do they are they even gonna play on sunday then and i was like good question i know that'd be such a weird vibe if these guys are t and i'll be getting introduced then the tournament is literally over i saw people tweeting about it the answer is yes but it's like what is that vibe like i wanted to know so if they had clinched on saturday do they like do the champagne deal i think so definitely or because i could see it going both ways one you're like we won

we're definitely doing this or you go like it's very very disrespectful to party on saturday I mean, imagine what Kisner would have showed up to the first Tee looking like. He was already shit-faced tonight before and hung over his balls when he teed off yesterday, Sunday. Imagine what he would have been like on Sunday. I mean, they would have had a massive party Saturday night. They might have anyways, but they would have had a massive party Saturday. I would imagine that behind closed doors, they probably had a little bit of a good time on Saturday. Well, I mean, Kisner was shit-faced in the stands Saturday afternoon at like noon or noon 30.

Let me tell you something. If you don't like Kevin Kisner, you can go fuck yourself. Absolutely go fuck yourself. He is the coolest guy. I mean, we met up with the game last week when we were at 30 Rock with those guys. And then... Would never say it to his face, because you can suck it. Yeah, definitely.

Now, Earmuffs kids, I think Kevin Kisner is my favorite guy. He on tour right now. He's unbelievable. Yes, I'm still a huge Hedecki fan. He lost a little bit of points this weekend by just not performing under pressure. I also, speaking to Hadeki, there was some... This was maybe my favorite moment from the press conference. There was some foreign, you know, Asian journalist who asked Phil a question during the press conference yesterday.

And his question was a good 55 seconds long. We might even play that audio on this. We might put that audio in. Because it's hilarious. His question was like 55 seconds long. Literally, you couldn't understand a single word, not even close. He asked this long question. And Phil, you know, in classic Phil Fasci takes the mic very calmly and he goes, well, that's an excellent question.

Place just went. Place erupted. Place lost its mind. It was perfect. Over on the right of the orange? I come from China, so I'm not to come here. Is that open? I have a question for Mr. Rousse and Mickelsink.

Maybe they'll be a bit, but I just see a hawking there. That was touching. So is that open? Happen? So you're talking together? Because it's really a lot of people seeing in the television screen and quiet. At that moment, my question is that you're a figure, and you're telling?

I think that that's a really good question. But Ty, and you could see Phil, his face was all red because he knew it was like a little disrespectful, and the guys, you know, foreign, you can't understand them. It's a weird thing, but it's just hysterical. Classic situation where you don't want to have to make the joke, but it's such a good situation that you got to do it. He had to.

It was so blatantly awkward, and the guy went on for like a minute, and no one knew what the fuck he was saying. It was unbelievable. So, I don't know. It's probably not a great sign that I tied that in with Hadeki. Anyways, it doesn't matter. We dusted them. It was an absolute drubbing.

I want to talk a little bit about the golf course. I was a little nervous about the course going in. Just because it's got this sort of bad stigmed history where they poured hundreds of millions of. millions of dollars into it. The cart path is worth a million dollars on its own. They imported special fucking stones and shit. You wouldn't stop telling me that on Friday.

Every time we passed the cart path, I'd just tell anybody that was within earshot of me. I was like, do you know this cart path is worth a million dollars? But it's got that stigma. It's got the huge glass clubhouse. I thought the course performed phenomenally. I thought it looked so good. I thought the way, you know, it's very tricky at these types of events because there's only four or five groups on the course.

at any given time. Saturday, there's only four groups on the course any time, and then Thursday and Friday there's only five. So it's very tightly packed. You know, they're at no moment, are they utilizing all 18 holes? It's only five holes at a time. I still thought they did a really,

there was a, for whatever reason, probably the people that organized it and set up the tents, they did a really good job because, you know, there was a huge theater on the ninth hole. That was my favorite part. That was by far, I thought, the coolest section of the courses. Like, other than the first T, which is obviously like a huge,

got stands all around it. The way that they positioned the stands and the tents behind the ninth hole was perfect. Perfect. And then the other side of the massive tent behind nine was facing the 10th. So you look out over the par 310th. That's 150 yards or something that actually gave the players a lot of trouble. I think it was the best hole on the golf course. But that view from the side of 10, you're just looking right at the Manhattan skyline and Lady Liberty.

So the course I just thought for this event, for the venue, I really thought it was kind of a bummer that the matches and the whole thing overall wasn't tighter because then they really would have been able to put it on display down the stretch with intense dramatics shots of the New York skyline instead. They kind of just had to resort to that, which almost overdid it a little bit. But the course was great. I think they're going to come back for some big events for sure. I think they've done the Barclays twice there now. And they've had a President's Cup. So Liberty National, you know, it takes some heat for its history and for costing $250 million and all of that.

But, man, ferry, taking a ferry over there, you saw all the players every night. We're all on their instant media, social media. Social media. Insta media. That sounds like Bill Belichick. Yeah. Snap face. That's what it is.

Purposely being an asshole. Although I promise, hand over my heart, I did not do that on purpose. I believe you. But anyway, Insta face and stuff on their way. home, Statue of Liberty, all that. So you got the full experience with that. First T, the first day, maybe the highlight of the week. You had Slick Willy, you had W, and you had Barack Obama out there on the first T.

That kind of came out of nowhere. I mean, I know golf journals were tweeting like they're going to be there. But it was like, you know, I was sitting there. I was working. I was cranking a couple blogs. And then I turned on, I jacked into my Twitter. And I just saw that picture of the. three of them waving to the crowd, just

live in the dream. It's not even that they were there. It's that they were definitely there together. And you could tell that they were like three buddies. It wasn't you like, all right, there's Brock over there, there's W over there, there's Clinton in another spot. They were like three peas in a pod, like hamming it up for the cameras. It was awesome. The selfie with Phil was great.

It was just those three out there together seemed like a good time. You know what the vibe I get from those three guys in that scene and when they're ever there together? What? I get the vibe of three like college roommates who you've just finished your last final exam and you went on spring break and you know you did well on your final exam and you're like fuck yeah life is good now like all my stresses are over i did it we did it let's get wild let's just have fun and ride this thing out and that's the vibe i get from those three it's just true huge smiles on

their face was so so good we put it on a shirt i mean we put it on a shirt i mean we don't put anything on a shirt that's true that's true but that one we were like as soon as you saw like we got to put that on a I think that they catapulted to my dream for some is just right there. You saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not even presidents.

Just anybody. Just anybody. I mean, Slick Willie is incredible figure. George W. with his now watches drive after giving like a terror speech to the camera. And then Obama is, I mean, he's been living the dream. He's out there with who's the Benson guy or whatever that guy's name is. Yeah, Richard Branson.

Richard Branson, the billionaire. The Virgin mobile guy? Yep. Yeah. So Obama's on like permanent vacation with that billionaire on beaches and yachts and shit. So those guys are living the dream. I want to give a shout out to Bill Clinton for looking very alive. There were points during the Hillary campaign where it very much looked like it was a weekend at Bernie situation.

Yeah. But he on whatever day, was that Thursday? Yeah. On Thursday looking very alive, very spry, very vibrant. I'm proud of Bill. Yeah, it felt like during the campaign there were times where they had him plugged into a machine keeping him alive until like the right time to kind of grab the sympathy vote if needed. But he looked good. Bill, Bill was out there.

He was buzzing. He looked vibrant. There were some commercials going around for his charity where he was, you know, he chimes in in the commercial. He was looking fresh. His voices sounded better. But he was looking good. So nice to see those three.

Love those guys. Tiger Woods. We got to talk a little bit about Tiger. Okay. He was kind of all over. It's, you know, it's funny because he's such a guarded guy. And then at an event like this, when the cameras are constantly on, like we just kind of, you just see them all the time.

when you never see him. It's very strange. When we went out there on Friday, you're out there, you're seeing all these groups, blah, blah, and then you see Tiger. He's wearing all white,

which is a very odd outfit that he was wearing. Oh, man, that was... But it's what you're saying. It's very relaxed. Like, there's Tiger Woods, but nobody is like, there...

People are like, oh, my God, that's Tiger Woods, but it's not like, oh, my God, that's Tiger Woods. He's just another guy walking behind the groups. He's an assistant captain. People aren't going crazy.

It's very strange to see him in that way, kind of giving some advice to the guys every once in a while. It's just a weird vibe when he's out there. Huge headset guy. He looked like a secret service guy. He just, he is so invested in the headset. He's like, when you give a kid like a walkie-talkie, him and his buddy one day,

like they will spend the entire day instead of just talking to each other in the same room. They'll just run to different rooms in the house and just walkie-talking to each other because they can. That's Tiger Woods at the President's Cup. And I can't tell him. He just like runs around the course to different places so that he can like headset back to the guys. And we know Tiger long enough that he's not doing it ironically when he's got all those cords on him. Fuck now. He's like, this is serious business.

This is unbelievably serious. This is serious business. Like, I could see Freddie and Stricks and then, like, all huddled together at a different hole being like, Tiger's going to tell us about every fucking putt again. Here we go. Like, okay, thanks, Tiger. And Freddie wouldn't be caught dead with any of that stuff. He's just cool as, cool as can be walking around Liberty National.

Coolest guy in the world, too. But somebody walking around, a new person walking around with Tiger Woods, he apparently has a new girlfriend. I don't know. She was following him around all weekend. That was a big theme where the girlfriends and the wives just follow every group around all the time. I really like that. And Tiger, I guess, stepped out with his new girl. Her name is Erica Herman. This is a big, uh, wags stunting event. Huge. Oh, man. They bring it. They know it.

They're flaunting. They got almost like the model runway walk when they're in between, inside the ropes. It's almost a fucking circus this event. I mean, there's carts driving around. It's almost like not that serious, but really serious at the same time. It's like kind of casual. It's a very interesting thing to observe in person because on TV, they, they, they, they, make it all appear very serious and dramatic. Yeah. And in the moment, like I said, there's like, Paulina's like almost hitting one of DJ's fucking t-shots with their ass.

All right. So I met Paulina. I took a picture. Everybody knows that. I blogged and all that. But she was a superstar out there. When you said this was more of a wags event than maybe a golf event, that's true. When we, every hole we went to with Paulina, people were chanting her name.

They were like, Paulina. Yeah. There was a lot of that. It was kind of like, one of my buddies was like, that's kind of like weird for DJ. It's super probably weird for DJ. or it's the other way where it's like, yeah, that's my wife. It is, it is, but it's kind of like all these guys are like chanting to like try to fuck my wife or my fiance or whatever they are. They're like been fianceed up for like 11 years.

Yeah, they have been together for a long time. I thought it was more like, you know, she's just a superstar out there. Maybe more than the golfers. She is a superstar. There's really no doubt about that. That was really the first time that I had seen her in person. And she carries herself like a star. if he's treated like a star, people are chanting.

DJ kind of knows it. I imagine they just go home and fuck the shit out of each other. Oh, I bet it's awesome. Which is exciting. You know, everybody's got to be a big fan of that. Go USA. Tiger also, we had a listener capture a video of him trying to juggle

the golf ball, like the old school video from the year, like, 1999 when he's juggling and juggling between the legs and then he smokes one with the music and all that. He wasn't even close. I mean, he literally... One of those. videos that's funny, but then you're like, damn. Like, I, yeah, I kind of laughed the first time, and then, like, the seventh time I watched

it, I was, like, in tears crying. He wasn't even fucking close. He eventually just, like, put the club away. He did that thing where he, like, checked the grooves before he put it away. Like, oh, these grooves are, like, clearly off. Yeah. And then put the club away. That was a big fall from Grace.

That was such kind of a... That kind of just encompassed the whole last nine, ten years for Tiger Woods. A lot of... Another Tiger Mon. We had a lot of Tigerville. We had a Tiger Phil hug. which I don't think anybody saw coming, like, in a million years. We are really, it almost feels like the world should have ended, like, four years ago.

Yeah. We are now living in a time where crazy things are happening, and Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods are fully embracing on the golf course. Kind of a very genuine hug. Yes. It felt like. It wasn't contrived. I didn't think. No. It really felt like they gave kind of a fuck yeah moment to each other after the hug.

Like when your eyes are like two inches away from each other and your boys, your bros, you're not like making out with each other. You're just kind of like, wow, our face is really close to each other. Yeah. So that was, that whole thing, just the tiger kind of put in there. It's weird, but it's kind of like nice to see because he looks like a happy person. So the part of you that kind of roots for tiger as like a human being is excited to see it. Yeah. But he still, he's got kind of that grandfather figure.

He's still kind of a weirdo with like his whole fucking headset. It, you know, so I don't know. It's nice to see. It was weird seeing him walk around. He walked, you know, he kind of walks right by it. And he's like, he's almost like this like this mysterious, mythical, like, ghost walking by where it's like you feel his presence

and everybody knows it, but people aren't really cheering for him because there's other shit going on. It was weird. I like that I know that the younger guys like him being there. Like, that's cool to me. I think that's got to be like they wouldn't say it or maybe they would, but probably not. They kind of said it last week when we asked chapel and them. They were like, yeah, no,

it's sweet. Like it's Tiger fucking Woods. Yeah, but I'm more like the spice and the Justin Thomas is the really young guys who you know are directly you know, descendants of like the way that he played. I think it's got to be like as cool as it can get for them. So that's nice.

But Tiger, he is. He's got a weird vibe just in general. All right. So we have to talk about our friends at Dunkin' Donuts. Okay. Let's do it. So it is, we talked about earlier, it's quarter zip season. That also means that it is pumpkin cold brew season.

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We went to 30 Rock last week. I don't think I had a coffee. And the whole rest of the night, I had a headache because I was going through probably withdrawals, caffeine withdrawals. You do get very almost like, when it becomes like kind of a late morning hour and you haven't had a coffee yet. Yeah. You actually, you just start saying it out loud many times.

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pumpkin cold brew America runs on Dunk and you know that prices and participation may vary it's a limited time offer go out there and get your your cold brew pumpkin so we also had um a little some interesting action on Saturday with the uh so Ricky and kids were not in the mix on um Saturday afternoon they sat down they got to rest really nice place to be in you get a win Saturday morning and then your boys are like, yeah, take the afternoon off, you'll be back for Sunday singles tomorrow, and we're probably going to close this thing out in like two hours anyways. Right.

So they were fucking in the stands with the crew, with the crowd. They were chanting. They were doing USA chance. There was a point where they were doing the boys, the boys, the boys, the boys. Which was kids and Ricky. Which is really an unreal twist on OLA, because whenever the

OLA chance would break out, you know, when you're playing the Europeans, there's nothing really as an American that you can do. If we start just going back with the boys, the boys, the boys, the boys, that is a plus. I want that to continue. That is solid. They're, of course, doing it right above a Saturdays for the boys flag. So solid branding there from barstoolsports.com. Kiz was literally handing out drinks to people in the crowd from down on the first tea. Again, another point for if you don't like Kiz, go fuck yourself. Yeah, you can suck it if you don't like Kevin Kisner. He also, at one point, he was just handing drinks up to people.

so they could get one sip because I think they just appeared thirsty, but he still wanted to finish the drink. So he had them, like, pass it back down to him. So they were absolutely buzzing. Ricky was in there, taking selfies with people. I did laugh. One of my friends was in that area, and I met up with him afterwards. I wasn't around the first tee during that part, but I met up with him afterwards,

and he was like, yeah, it was really funny because kids, or because Ricky came into the crowd. Everybody's going nuts. Losing their mind, taking out phones, taking cell phone. taking selfies and they were like in the kind of the sting and like the excitement from all that wore off a little bit and then kisner came up and nobody knew who the fuck was my buddy was like people were literally like telling him to get out of their seats no way Kisler's very much like he could walk down the street, no problem at all. The most normal looking dude in the world. He's famous to us because we like him so much and we've been pumping him up and we've had him twice on the podcast. But he could walk around New York City all day long and no one would have any idea.

Yeah, my buddy was like, I literally saw people like kick him out of their seats. They're like, what are you? These are our seats. So got a lot of kids daddy out there. He did get some shine when Phil chipped in on, what was it, 18, the par three and they did the dance. Oh, when Phil hold that. that birdie putt to win the match. That's right.

I mean, he got some FaceTime there because Phil obviously has cameras following him around everywhere. So, I mean, maybe that'll get him some shine. Maybe Kisner won't be able to walk down the streets. No, they did. They did the, what was like the Macarena or something like that they were doing? Is that what it is? Yeah, it is the Macarena.

Is it the Macarena? Hey, Macarena. All right. And I also had a good moment with Kiz and Phil, which not, because Kisner is basically like a nobody does at this point, even though he's the coolest guy on tour. And behind the ninth hole, you know, Phil and, kids were obviously playing together all week. And so they walked off the ninth green.

And there's like a small little walkway behind where there's not that many people. That's where I met Paulina. That's where I snuck over to say hi to Hoffman and Chapel. And I did the same thing with Kiz. And Kiz is walking with Phil. He's on the far side of Phil from me. So I'm just standing there. And you know, you never really know how to react on that?

Like, do you want to try to be the cool guy that, like, knows the guy? But you also want to be that fucking weirdo fan that's like, look at me. I was definitely the weirdo fan with Paulina, but keep going. But that's different. That's fine. True. So anyways, because you creep on her and blog about her and all that. I screenshot her Instagrams and her snaps.

You internet talker. But I don't like save them for myself. I tweet them out to the world. It's not like I have my own personal collection. Oh, clearly your face didn't like. Riggs, who am I trying to convince right now? Keep telling yourself that. Anyway, you went to go see Kiz.

So anyway, so Kiz is walking by right with Phil. They're standing next to each other talking. And I just gave kind of a, Kiz, let's go, baby. and he walks and he does like a quick double take and he just goes, what's up Riggs? Mid conversation with Phil and I was so not because it was Kisner it was just the fact that he was like walking right next to Phil

and he just gave like oh what's up Riggs? In that moment I guarantee you're thinking maybe Phil knows something about this but let me tell you this Phil and this is not because of anything of him but he has to live in just a different world he's Phil Mickelson. Like Kevin Kisner is Kevin Kisner

he's buddies with us But then Phil Mickelson is so famous and has been through so much. I bet Kisner could try to explain to Phil what we are for the entire round, and he'd still just be like, I don't care. In my brain, I was like, maybe Phil asked Kiz, like, oh, who was that guy? And then Kiz explained the whole thing, and maybe he'll come on the podcast and all that. And we'll be listening. Like, Phil couldn't give a fuck who Kiz was saying.

I'm here to tell you that Phil didn't even notice Kisner saying anything to anyone else. Like, Phil was in the middle of a story that will be finished and told without interruption. And, like, Kiz might have got slapped for being like, oh, so, Rigs. It is very. Hey, what's up, Regs? We also had, so the conclusion yesterday, it was kind of interesting to see the internationals come back. It was one of those things where it legit looked like we were going to win like 25 to 5, and we ended up winning 19 to 11. But anyway, Donnie shows up, President Trump comes in and his fucking, the whole deal, the Marine one.

They did it. They even, they had them fly right over the Statue of Liberty, which is great. he comes out you know he's it's look he is just a laugh out loud funny figure at this point no matter how you cut it he shows up last minute he just stands up there waving like he's like a deity or like a Greek god he's just kind of standing in a huge glass structure waving at people goes down for his ceremony

basically like there he put it he framed everything in a way that it like looked like he won the president's cup yes If he could have taken those pictures by himself, he 100% won't. It was legitimately like congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the President's Cup, takes the trophy, dedicates it to, you know, all the people that are kind of shitting on them. Oh, no. Down in the hurricane affected areas. I can't tell.

And let me say this. There is a way that you can cut it where this Donald Trump stuff isn't the funniest thing in the world, and we won't get into that because there is a way you can look at it where he's just like, he's just Donald Trump. And he does these things. He basically says he says he's. won the President's Cup by himself. But him, I couldn't tell if he was doing the Puerto Rico stuff,

dedicating the trophy to Puerto Rico, if that was a troll or if he was just, if he's just caught up in the moment. I think he was dead serious. I think he thought it meant a lot. You know, he dedicates the President's Cup to, you know, Puerto Rico. I think he dedicated to all the areas that have been affected by the hurricane. They're going to have to split that trophy three ways.

Again, it's not a laughing matter, but I laughed out loud when he said that. It was incredible. He was so serious. Looking at the camera was great. one of the highlights of the tournament for me We also had a Trump Freddie couples handshake Where it was clearly like

They are fucking boys He like pulled Freddy in And they did like a whole bro hug They are boys But Trump did his thing Where he always did it Where he just planks him He yanks you right to the right to his belt loop

He's a big yanker But again I don't think he does that to guys That aren't overly You know comfortable with it Didn't he get into a staring match With some like prime minister He does do it with weird world leaders But I think in that setting

He was he was there were like 13 other handshakes to compare it to. Yeah. And most of them were very normal kind of formal type handshakes. And that one was like, what's up to you? Yeah, I can't get a read on it. It's either or it's either we are best of friends in the world or it's like we have a past that I don't like you and I'm going to pull you towards my belt loop.

Yeah, it's a really bizarre kind of situation. It puts people in with how polarizing Trump is that, you know, he comes down on the U.S. team is in all the stuff with the NFL and all of that. But I did want to say that Steve Stricker, Captain Stricker, basically he said it was a thrill that Trump was there to give him the trophy. And then he said, quote, as far as going to the White House, you know, if we were given the opportunity, I'd have to ask everyone if they wanted to go to the White House. I would go to the White House. And then it goes on to say, I would added Dustin Johnson, who, like Justin Thomas, raised his hand to support Stricker's statement. Is that a thing that you usually do when you win the President's Cup?

Do you go to the White House? I know for Ryder Cup they do. I would assume they do as well for President's Cup because they're all golf trying to make it the same thing. Yeah. But anyways, you know, Trump's there. He's always going to make it interesting. It is, it is important to note, too, that Trump is way pre-President Trump.

He's a huge part of the golf world. Huge. Yeah, no, that's true. He owns hugely important courses that have, you know, Turnberry is one of the open rhoda courses. Doral was a big. PGA tour course forever. They just hosted the

women's U.S. Open at Bentminster. I mean, Trump is Mr. Golf. A lot of these guys knew him and know and all that well before any of this. So I think you kind of, I don't know, I can't stand when people overly like politicize this. It's the fucking president. You respect it.

They did. And I'm glad that there was no weird kind of, you know, controversy. They didn't get into a situation like the NFL got into, no matter what side of that, you're It's just not good. I would have been down for that. It's not good, but I would have been down for some controversy.

I love it. I don't know. I didn't. I don't know. I'm glad it went down as it did. It went by fine. Anybody who did have big objections to him or whatever, clearly, like, kind of didn't speak up and didn't say anything crazy, which I think is good. Just let it move past.

He flew away. It was fine. He flew away. Like he's a bird. There he goes. We already talked about the press conference. I do want to say Jordan Spieth has, I, I, you know, an 0 and 5 record in singles.

How is that possible? In presidents and rider cups. I don't know. Strange. It's strange because him and, obviously him and Patrick Reed, they're, you know, the toast of the town whenever there's a team event.

But then when singles come around, he just puts up a big old goose egg. And, I mean, he's an unbelievable putter. So you'd think in singles, draining putts, it kind of wears on your opponent and all that. But yeah, he's 0.15, which is, again, that's just kind of appalling.

I don't think it's really, not we're trying to cherry pick things to talk about from you know like getting a little more meta because we're trying to like yeah make storylines within the golf other than the one that we just fucking shit kick them yes and this is one of them where it's like you know it's it's it's gonna be something he had told the um you know the on course guys that he really wanted to win he really wanted to get that singles monkey off his back and he lost again so it's something to keep an eye out on going forward for rider cups and such. I would say it's not something I'm overly worried about.

As long as him and Patrick Reed keep being, you know, American icons on the golf course during Matt, during team events, I'm okay with it. It is. I mean, that team basically, they played every session together. Is that right? All four.

Yep. They're 3.1, I believe. Yep. They, you know, it's cool. They're going to be, that's going to be the tandem basically till they're done. I mean, for the next 20 years. Those guys are going to be. It clearly works, but they seem very different personality-wise,

and maybe that's what makes it work. But you don't think, like, you, like, Reed isn't a guy who goes on the spring break trips, and he's not, you don't see him paling around with, with Spieth and Justin Thomas. He seems kind of off on his own, doing his own thing, which is fine. But when these two come together during team events, it's like their best buddies, and they just feed off each other. Yeah, and they love to talk about how they have inner team competition during their matches with other teams, where they try to be the guy that outdoes the other one.

Yeah. So you're right. I mean, it's not a, you know, Justin Thomas. It's not his friendship-based. It's not. It's not like bro-y friendship-based, and that doesn't surprise you. Patrick Green is not a spring break guy. He's, like, married and has, like, disown the rest of his family because of his new family guy.

So that's obviously not, they're not the same guy in that sense. But you're right. I think obviously it's a tract, whatever you want to say, whatever metaphor, you would like, to use. They've got it. And they've been fucking dominating. They continued to, so that's nice. It's nice to know we've got those guys going forward.

The internationals are the opposite. They're nobody. Buy a shirt. Those shirts, the most underrated shirts we have are the American guy's shirt. God, those American guys' shirts are so good. The one of them with the winter hats on is just one of the greatest hats I've ever seen. I mean, going back to the internationals and how they just got the shit kicked out of them, it's got to be tough.

Like, Hedeki Matsuyama and Adam Hadwin. and like they're not hanging out. You know what I mean? Definitely. Like there's, you look at that team and there's just no chemistry camaraderie. So it's like going up against the talent and the chemistry of the other team, it's just, it's really one of the biggest mismatches you'll ever see. Now, Hedachie and Annamar Lehiuri are not going shirtless to the Baker's Club. Right.

Baker's Bay. And Snapchatting them drunkenly, you know, hitting golf balls and playing golf against each other for an entire week after the Masters. Say what you want about Team Chemistry. but it puts them at a decided disadvantage against a team like the U.S. squad. It does. I'd be really curious to have a couple European guys on to kind of hear them talk about, you know, where they think that team's at if this kind of adds to any, I don't know, intimidation. Nobody would ever admit that or say that.

But, yeah, I mean, does this team perform in like they did this past week? Where does it put the international or the European mindset going into the Ryder Cup next year? I saw, you know, there's always a bunch of cliche tweets and stuff. People were like, well, it's funny, I never hear any President's Cup reverences during the Riter Cup, but I hear a bunch of Rider Cup reverences during the President's Cup. Yeah, we know the President's Cup is not the Riter Cup. Everybody knows. Everybody knows.

Everybody's aware of that. Literally everybody knows that. Yeah. So, I don't know if they need to change it. It's really, it really becomes a slab on the face to the team that lost when you start talking about how they need to just totally scrap and rechange the entire event because one team sucks so much. compared to the other team, but that's kind of where we're at. If we're done with the President's Cup, I want to talk a little bit about our girl, Daniel Kang. She has quit Twitter, unfortunately.

The women's people's golfer, is that grammatically correct? I'm not sure. The women's people's golfer. Or we could call her the people's lady golfer. The people's... There we go. Is that correct? That's so much better.

Have we ever said that before? Did we just come up with that? The people's lady golfer? The people's lady golfer. We had said that she is the woman's people's golfer, but it doesn't roll off the time. as well. It is not a rolling off the tongue. The people's lady golfer?

People's lady golfer. Anyway, she quit Twitter over the weekend because of some weather-related tweets that she put out, but here's what she said about it. Honestly, because it was getting nowhere, and I'm just getting arguments with people that are twisting and misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. Can't portray what you're intending on social media, so I had to delete it for my sake. We love Daniel Kang on this podcast. That's really, I just wanted to voice my support for Daniel.

Please come back to Twitter. you're one of the more interesting things on the LPGA tour. Yeah, if you're going after Danielle Kang on Twitter, fuck you. You're an idiot. You're a dumb person. That's a better way to put it. Also, Danielle, just don't read the trolls. She's probably in that mindset where she, I know she goes through phases where she'll read

all of Twitter. Like she won't check it for three days and then she'll read, she'll consume all of Twitter. Right. When she won that major, she didn't check it for a day. And then she checked and retweeted everything. She retweeted like 170 tweets in like five minutes. And I was like, all right, Danielle, you're very. very transparent in your Twitter usage.

So my guess is she just kind of couldn't get away from responding, which is never. You put your tweet up, you put your stuff up, especially when you're on a level that Daniel Kang is on, major champion, people's lady golfer. You just put your tweet up, say what you want to say, and then you just drop, you just ignore Twitter for a while. You have said what you need to say. The trolls are going to hate. Please come back to Twitter.

She also had Stevie Williams on the bag down in New Zealand this weekend, which was awesome. Very nice to see. we had the British Masters Paul Dunn He might be a name that you remember Two years ago at the old course At San Andrews which I've played a couple times No big deal

Wow I don't know if I told you guys that He was tied for the lead Or had the lead on his own On Sunday Of the Open Championship And proceeded to play terrible He shot I don't know exactly

What he shot it was somewhere around 80 I believe But he was an amateur At the time he was the first amateur To be in the lead going into the final round of the open since like Bobby Jones or something crazy like that. Anyways, he got his first win, first European tour win at the British Masters yesterday. It was nice because they had slotted out like two hours of live from the President's Cup before the actual coverage came on yesterday, which was the biggest waste of television of all time

because the tournament was literally over on Saturday, arguably Friday. So it was nice because they just put the British Masters on. The reason it was nice is because Rory was making an absolute charge. I think he was like eight shots back going into the weekend, posted two really low numbers, and had a Bertie look on 18 actually to tie for the lead. Ended up, you know, he made par. He was one back.

And then Paul Dunn, birdied 17, and then also chipped in for Bertie on the difficult par 318. So it was really cool to see a little Euro tour golf. the morning. Always good to see my guy Rory at any point in the day. I thought you'd be real jacked up about that, see him playing some good golf. Yep. It makes me happy to see because, you know, he had kind of an up and down year.

He's been, you know, nagging some injuries. So, yeah, it's always good to see my guy Rory playing well. I'm pretty jacked up because, yes, the BGA tour is back this weekend. I don't really care that much about that, the Safeway. Phil's playing, by the way. I did see that. But we've got the Dunhill links. Oh, that's right.

Which is... It's near and dear to your heart. Very near and dear to my heart as a Scotland veteran, as a St. Andrews, Scotland connoisseur. Yeah, you got to come up with a term for it. Alumni? Alumni. Whatever you want to call it. I've been there.

I've done it. OG? Nice. I'm not an OG, but I'll take it. All right. San Andrews OG, they are playing... This is a must watch, especially early in the mornings. Like I said, when you wake up, you get ready to watch football.

You got a couple hours to kill. throw on the Dunhill Lynx. They play the old course. They play Carnoust. Carnusti. Carnusti. Codanusti. And they play Kings Barnes,

which is one of the most spectacular courses on planet Earth. So it's always fun to see. It's nice to see that Lynx golf. They'll be playing it in quarters of season weather, which is cool. So, yeah. I think that's about it. That's it for the week? You got anything else?

I don't think I have anything else. No. I guess we can probably pull up some from the galleries. Oh, yeah, we could do that. All right. Next up, last up, we've got from the gallery. Remember to send us stuff for play at barstoolsports.com. From the gallery is brought to you by our friends at Tommy John.

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about how they brought a guy with them to play golf as their fourth who sucks at golf and never plays golf, but they, you know, they needed a force. They brought a guy. We've all done that before. Yep. He said basically the guy hits one out of bounds. Terrible, terrible T-shot, not even close.

It's obviously blatantly the most out-of-balance shot of all time. And the guy who starts yelling, bite, bite, bite, which has literally nothing to do with the ball. Right. He could have said anything. The situation is not applicable at all. he's like the guy clearly like heard that term somewhere and was like oh that's a golf term I'm just going to use it whenever I get the ball this is like a guy trying to buy drugs but he's a narc and he's like hey can I get some

marijuana from you guys or can I buy a weed off of you guys right yelling bite bite bite at a ball that is so far out of bounds that you're never ever going to find it I actually like the commitment to it like because you're trying to fit in you're out there with your buddies and they know you suck they know you don't know anything about golf but you're like I want to get into this he's probably another one of those guys who is dressed like a golfer like old-timey golfer. Oh yeah, big time. He has like one outfit for the one time of year he gets invited to play so that he looks like he thinks he looks like a golfer, but he's trying so hard to look like golf, that it's even more blatantly obvious that he's not a golfer. Right. So I actually

don't have a great story of this, but I just like this guy's commitment to the bit. Do you have a similar story? Yeah, so the guy essentially finished the email with, you know, like what's some of the dumbest shoot you've ever heard in the course. I have to say, I've actually heard this from a couple different people. One of my favorites is when someone hits one that's clearly out of play, whether it's like shrubbery, marshy stuff, out of bounds, woods that you can't trek through, whatever. And people love to drop the, like, I'm not sure, but I think it opens up over there. It's one of my favorite lines of all time that my brother and I drop all the time. He's like, especially for whatever reason you get it when you like, you get paired up with people that, like,

strangers and they'll hit one and you're like you're gonna like need to read to you hit another one buddy is kind of what you're thinking in your brain and the guy's like i feel like it opens up over there i'm like you've never been here before dude that is that is the fucking pot that's the best the guy who's never been there like it definitely opens up over there like what's one of my very eyes i think it opens up over there yeah i don't think it fucking does now uh next one's from matt uh so matt tells a little story about his buddy ben and ben's deal is he has a special sleeve of balls. I believe the balls have their college logo on them. Okay. He only uses him for par threes. And the reason is because Ben's theory is that when he gets a

hole in one, finally, he wants that hole in one ball to be a sweet ball that has a college logo on it. Okay. I don't hate that. So Matt here says that he thinks he's an idiot and a moron and is essentially acquiring really bad karma every time he does this. So Matt is the one who emailed in, yes? Matt emailed about his, in his opinion, moron friend. and Ben. Well, Ben is actually a smart guy and Matt is the more on this situation. Because on this very podcast, we talk a lot about part threes, actually. And one of the running themes is if you don't step up to every single part three that you go to and in your head, you're not thinking, this is the one. This is it. This is the one. Like it doesn't matter

if you're playing the worst round of golf. It doesn't matter if you suck terribly at golf. If you don't walk up to those par three Ts and think, I'm going to get a hole in one here, then you've already lost. So I like going to even further and being like, I'm going to use special balls so when I do eventually end up making this I'm going to have a sweet ball as a memento I like it I think Matt is dumb and I think Ben is very smart yeah I'm all in on this I think this is actually a genius I've never heard anything like this but it makes so much sense I mean if you're gonna have a hole in one you got that ball you're gonna who knows you're gonna like sign in it you're gonna take pictures with it you know you do that classic like you pull it out of the

hole and then you're standing next to the hole with the ball picture and he's gonna have chosen the ball and the logo that he gets to show off for his whole on one picture so it is kind a sneaky genius. You guys are kind of like, I don't understand the bad karma part. I do. I mean, it would almost, I was trying to equate it to like, imagine if you got down to the last cup in beer pong and then you, like, pulled a different special ball out. That would be weird.

It's like, well, I mean, we're kind of like this is like what we're doing. You're pulling out a new one that's like weird mojo, nude mojo. I don't know. Obviously, a whole one is different than the last cup and beer pong, but still. No, I see what you're saying. But I pray at the altar of Patrick Harrington. going forward after we interviewed him, and he would be very upset someone talking about messing with the karma gods.

He'd be like, Brick, get your best ball, get the ball that you want for this whole and one, because it's up to you to make it. It's up to you, Riggs. It's not up to karma. It's not up to the golf gods. Patrick Harington doesn't give a shit about those things. So I like those. Did you say pray at the altar of Padra Kherington?

I pray at the altar of Padra Kerington. That was very poetic. I'm a poetic person, not really, but... Wow. I pray at the altar of Padres. When did you come up with that? On the spot? Just right now, but we weren't talking about karma.

You didn't write that down as like one of your takes? I have nothing written out. No, we just... You don't even write you it down to try. I don't know why you said that. I don't know anything. Interesting. I can't believe that.

That was nice. There you go. You got to come up at one of those every week. Okay. Pray at the altar of Padrake-Harrington. Wow. That was powerful. You seem taken aback by it.

I'm just impressed. That was such a great little phrase. I'm happy with it. I think Padra could be very happy with it. What was that metaphor? I don't know. We'll call it that. All right.

Anyway, that's from the gallery. That's all we got. this week. The PGA tour, new wraparound season starts this week. Very quick. That happened very fast. Yeah. We got the Dunhill link, so we'll probably be tweeting about your little Euro golf action. That's all I got.