Fore Play - The Woods Family: Here To Stay

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

As enjoyable of a weekend watching golf as there’s ever been. Tiger and Charlie Woods wow’ed crowds; John and John Daly II impressed for their first PNC victory; Nelly Korda was giddy meeting Tiger for the first time; Frankie might come from a sneaky bowling family. We react to it all.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, after by Barstool Sports, we have a very special edition of this show right here. It is Sunday. My local time is 2.18 p.m. I believe it's 418 for you guys. We just witnessed a golf event that, among all things, and there's a million, enormous amount of things that we're going to get to that are positive, that we love, that we love, that we're We're giddy about the number one takeaway for me of what I witnessed for the last two or three days is that the Woods family is here to fucking stay.

The Woods family is going nowhere. The Woods family earlier this year when many people thought this could be it. This could be the last time we see it. We don't know if they're going to emerge. We don't know if Charlie's still going to go up. We don't know if Tiger can walk again if he'll have a leg. We just saw, ladies and gentlemen, that we will be blessed. Merry Christmas, everyone, by the way.

Happy holidays. We will be blessed going forward for many years to come with. a one Tiger Woods that can still compete and can still play and can still hit a golf ball 350 fucking yards and we will be blessed with a Charlie Woods who loves this game and can step up didn't smile for the last hour and a half of the final round of golf in his Sunday red and black with his father we are blessed we are going to witness we are going to be given for many years to come much more of the woods family and that's the best christmas present somebody can get Trent is begging to speak here.

Well, the great part about what you just said, until the last part, I didn't know which specific woods you were talking about. And that, my friends, is incredibly exciting. Because obviously the last 10 months with Tiger have been weird and scary, and we didn't know what his future was going to look like. So to see him play as well as he played this weekend at the PNC

was as encouraging as it gets. Not only did he look pretty damn good, but you could tell, especially today on Sunday, when we're recording, much he cared about birdie putts. When he missed one, he was devastated. And when he or Charlie made a birdie putt, he was extremely into it and happy and motivated. That was big for me. And then Charlie, I mean, I know we're going to talk about it at length on this podcast. But I, I'm almost speechless right now because he just, he has so much pressure on him. We talk about him leading up on

leading up to the event. Everybody in golf talks about him. Sometimes people outside of golf are talking about like, oh, what's Charlie Wood's going to look like? And then he just, he just performs under pressure that I can't even comprehend as a 12 year old. He like, I don't even remember being 12. I can't even imagine having a spotlight like that on me. People watching me play golf at the course, people on TV watching me. Just thinking about that, I would mentally break down and throw up all over myself. And Charlie, much like his father, seems to thrive under this type of pressure.

And just to echo everything that Riggs said, it is a very, very, very exciting time to be a Woods fan in the world of golf. At any given time, Charlie Woods was the best golfer in his group in a professional golf tournament, playing with the greatest golfer of all time, playing against another very capable golfer in his son. Charlie Woods and Tiger Woods, Merry Christmas. Everything about Tiger Woods that we saw is a Christmas gift. The man almost died nine months ago.

The fact that he was wearing red on a Sunday. playing in a professional golf tournament, trying to win coming down 18, it's something that is, you know, I get into the season, the Christmas miracle season. I just saw a Trans-Siberian orchestra. I want to get into that later on in the show, how I went deep into Christmas this year. But they tell this story about a man walking into a bar and an angel coming down, something that was from the heavens. That's what Tiger Woods is.

He's an angel from heaven. And he's not to be believed. The fact that he's walking around with a fucking limp. And he's driving the cart around. The guy had amputation on the table just eight months ago. It's psychotic. Given all of that and all the storylines, Charlie Woods still stole the show. Tiger Woods could have essentially walked on water this week, which is basically what he did.

And Charlie Wood was the number. He should be on the pit plan. I mean, like, he should be getting paid for the pit plan. He's a needle mover. Yeah. It was, I was going to get more dramatic. And then Lurch just threw me off my game there. I was going to start.

I was really feeling like it was starting to come. The tears were almost coming. And then Lurch just had to... You were building up to it. I was building out. I was going again. Let's hide you off again, Frankie. It's fine.

It's fine. Walking on water. Who else walked on water? No, it's fine. I can't remember... Mind you of anyone? Listen, bro. It just really made me excited and happy.

And the biggest thing is that he wants it, Charlie. It's not... The New York College has tied the game with five minutes left. Fucking bellows, baby. All right. Here we go. I'm sorry. Tweet.

All caps. Tweet. You're all caps. Listen, guys, Charlie Woods is here. The New York Islanders are here. Tiger Woods is here. It's a great time to live. You know the last time I was watching Tiger Woods wearing red and the Islanders playing golf? The 20, the Islanders playing hockey.

The 2019 Masters. Leo Kamarov scored at the same time that Tiger Woods putt on 18 to win the fucking masters. It's all coming back in our lives here, guys. I mean, it's all happening. Sports are back. Pandemic. All this fucking shit politics. The fucking restaurants are being closed.

Tiger Woods fucking delivers, man. It's a Christmas fucking mirror. It's a Christmas fucking miracle. The Woodses are going to be here for the rest of our lives. KFC just texted Trent and I and said, do you guys realize how insane it is that we're going to be watching Tiger Woods and his son play golf for the next, for essentially 70 years of our lives? I'll be dead.

And Tiger and a Woods will still be playing golf. Isn't that fucking insane? We got there. We got there with the pump up. It just took the Islanders to score a goal and then we finally got there. Come on. Everything. Everything.

Frankie that you are saying is correct. It is, there's a, there's a concern always when you have someone like Tiger Woods that has done everything that he's done for the game of golf, for sports, for our inspiration around golf and getting jacked up and getting tuned in, there's always a concern that it's going to end. You do not want it to end because it's once in a lifetime, it's once in a generation. It's maybe once in the history of a sport that someone like Tiger Woods comes along and every fucking time some new issue emerges. There's concern that it's going to be over. There are many, many, many people, many haters of which we have now embarrassed yet again who say that he will be done, that he can't recover from this. It's impossible. And there's

always that little bit of doubt inside of you that it could be over. There was that massive concern when nobody knew anything about the car accident that Tiger Woods was in there and we would never see him again as an alive person, much less someone that could walk, much less someone that could play golf. And when he comes out there and he stands on that first team, they introduce him. It looks like a major championship. It's 20 people deep on both sides of the ropes. And he stripes a little baby cut down the middle. And then his son Charlie hits one to like five feet. And they birdie the first hole. And then he steps up on, I think it was the 11th hole maybe yesterday. He outdrove Justin Thomas, who is one of the longest and best hitters in the world. And then he stepped up

today. And everyone's worried that he's going to run out of gas. It's day three. I think he said afterwards, this was his fifth round of golf of the year. And he steps up today. And he looked the best that he looked all fucking weak. He hit one on that par five, whatever hole that was. He hit one 350? They had 176 in on a hole that was 329. And they took Eldrick, Tiger, big dick, Woods his fucking drive. And you're sitting there going, did the last year just not even happen?

Like, is he? Was that a dream, a nightmare? Like, he's just fine. He's just hitting ball. And then he lit. It was like Yoda in that fucking scene when he whips out the lightsaber and fights that motherfucker. And then he limps back off at the end of it.

And he's like, oh, I guess we'll try again tomorrow. Tiger would rip a drive 350, limped to his cart, look like he's trying to like save all his energy and then reemer with his fucking lightsaber and hit another one. It was incredible. The whole thing was incredible. Before we go any further, I want to say congratulations to the dailies because I'm watching them on my TV right now, get their belts.

I wouldn't be remiss if we don't at least mention it. I mean, I love these guys. They're great. I felt bad rooting for them to struggle down the stretch because I wanted the woods to win. But I, you know, we got to at least mention that John Daly and John Daly's second won this PNC championship and they look great doing it. John Daly's second is a fucking stud. He's incredible. Lirk, we got to get to you.

You have a nice Tiger Woods tint on your screen. I don't know if that's by design. Well, Riggs and I talked about getting that like camera. So changing from the laptop camera to the actual. I just plugged it in. And I'm going through like what you would deal with and freak out. Now it's saturation. Exactly.

So it's all out of whack. Oh, I got a red one. Right before we get to Lurch, I want to say that, yes, congratulations to John Daly. John Daly the second. He doesn't like when he'd call him John Jr., I think. Little John. He doesn't like little John.

He's also massive. He's massive. They said that every time. They said he didn't like being called little John every time. They were like calling him Little John. Even Big John was like, yeah, you don't call him Little John. I'm happy that they won because I love them. He was smoking a dart on 18, John Daly walking down the fucking fairway.

I will say anybody but the sinks. I will talk about that at the end of the show. They just rub me the wrong way, man. That son, I think that that son has just, I think Reagan, is he named after the president, I think he's just, he's just a little too cocky right now. They won a couple tournaments. He's cocky. He's being known as this like savant of a fucking catty.

Listen, your dad's on a hot streak. Like, I get that you guys have good rapport. You literally came out of his nutsack. Like, you should have a fucking good rapport. I just, I'm sorry. I'm just saying, like, yeah, you know. You don't have a good relationship with your dad? Like, yeah, I mean, sure. Like, you guys know how to fucking talk is your father. My second part is anybody but the sinks, John Daly,

I'm very happy for them. They're just a good, they're just good people and everything that John's been through. He had, just like Tiger Woods. Like, John Daly just had cancer six months ago. So, I mean, how, how long ago was that a fucking announcement? We were all like, what the fuck? Like, are we going to lose John Daly? He's out here hitting absolute fucking bomb missiles, sticking darts in people's necks. It was amazing. Lurch, we got to get to your your reaction to this amazing Sunday Christmas Sunday Briggs you want to talk about

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The goal's coming back, Frank. That's coming back. But anyways, yeah, this, I mean, it's incredible. And Trent, I agree with probably your point more than anything else. of just Charlie's level of execution in big spots is off the charts. Like get a whoop on him. What does his heart rate do? He's incredible.

And then, you know, I think they actually looked the best in the salmon. When they showed up in that, like, beautiful pink salmon, I thought the two of them looked not to be believed that good. And then going back to that loser, like a salmon, you're kind of a salmon. I've got a little salmon on right now, I guess. But no, I just, thank God. They look tremendous. But they don't ever look better than in their red and black. I mean, come on.

It was close for me. Going, there at one point, though, that I want to touch on, I refuse that, like, loser tweeted out, like Charlie's not in the top 100 of golfers in Florida in his age group. I just, I cannot believe that. That kid is so goddamn good at the game of golf. It's incredible. Like, I don't know if Charlie doesn't play in tournaments

or he's just basically out back practicing, but there's just no way he's not. in the top 100 of kids his age group. He is so damn good at golf. He hits it everywhere. His putting's outrageous. He has awesome feel. Yeah, I mean, we're just,

we're lucky to be in the spot that we are. And now it's just 100% the Tigers playing in all the majors this year. When do we start equating, like when you're trying to get a list of the top 100 children golfers, which is a fucking weird thing to do like that guy did on Twitter,

when you try and compile the list of the best children that play the game of golfers, off, why aren't you computing the fact that this kid just played in a fucking Sunday of a PGA tournament and absolutely was nails? Like, when does that come into your coursey stats like in hockey? Like, when does, when do you figure that into your analytics? That this kid can step up in front of fucking a million point five people and roast a drive right down the middle. Meanwhile, fucking Sally Small Dick over here is fucking playing in front of his grandpa in the backyard

at fucking Orlando Country Club. I'm sorry, man. Like Charlie Woods has it. He's not it. I accidentally got into the weeds on that today a little bit. I tweeted a video of JD number two with that shot out of the bunker, which was fucking incredible. And I just said, Charlie's getting a lot of spotlight, but check out how much of a stick JD number two is.

And people are like, why are you comparing these two? He's just a kid. Stop doing that. And I was just like, I was just trying to point out how awesome JD number two is. But I agree with what you guys are saying. I don't, again,

and I said on the last podcast that I don't care about the rankings. I think the people who care about those are insane. All I know is that the confidence that Charlie Woods is going to take away from this event is astronomical. His dad is going to take away a bunch of confidence too. It's a different type of confidence. They're in a different point in their careers, obviously. But like Frankie said, like Lurch said, to play that way in front of that many people during a sanctioned event, like the things that he's going to take going forward have to vault him ahead of just almost everybody.

And again, I'm not going to rank him, but all I'm saying is that the confidence you take away from performing in an event like this at that age has to be substantial. Yes, easily. And the rankings, the overall what he's performed over the year, that could not possibly mean less. And if you don't gather that, if your takeaway is, ooh, let's not all get too excited. Like, let's not be happy because actually the numbers state this. You are one of the great losers in the history of the world. You need to go join the fucking home with Jeff Shackleford and his clan of negative motherfuckers

because look, at the end of the day, like Trent saying, a far more important talent than anything else, any of these golfers at age 12, they're 12, 12 year olds, any talent is, the difference is going to be stepping up of being able to do it. On the very first tee, with all that pressure on Saturday morning, I was like, how is this kid going to be able to swing this club right now?

He's 12 years old, he's got all this pressure, he's dressed exactly like his dad, and he just rips one down the middle and then hits an iron again until like five feet. And you're thinking, okay, he's just on a different level. And then that tweet from it was either Danny Rapaport or it was Dylan to chair where they said like Charlie Woods hasn't smiled in an hour and a half during the back nine when he was hitting dart after dart after dart. That kid is laser locked in focus. That comes from exactly what we've seen from Tiger Woods.

You know why we're going to compare the two? Because he's miniature Tiger Woods. He's got the same fucking DNA, the same outfit, the same mannerisms, the same golf shots. Of course we're going to compare the two. Charlie Woods made driving the golf ball look like the easiest thing in the world. He made it look like it's like getting out of bed in the morning. I couldn't wrap my head around every time he stepped up to a tee and laced a ball. It was perfect.

And I don't like, did he hit a bad one all week or in the two days? I don't think so. A couple like short, right, maybe he like, you know what? A lot of the ones that like he wishes that he could do right now, even though he's 12 is like those 265 in the fairway shots on the par five that like daddy was going after. he wishes like he's at that level you could see it in his fucking head that he's like why can't I hit this three wood

on this green right now it was just coming up like short right and you could see the fire in him being like I can't wait to just grow and just be better and bigger like I can't wait to win every golf turn I've ever played it and you know what the expectations and all this stuff that we're putting on the kid we wouldn't be doing this if he wasn't playing

the PNC championship wearing and what Rick said before just made me chuckle he's wearing the same outfit as his dad who's the greatest golfer of all time they're just parading these guys out here acting like he is the second coming of Jesus Christ and we're obviously going to just take debate and say yeah he is like what do he else we want us to do like people say it about regular kids all the time oh you look just like your daddy oh you have your mom's eyes and all that stuff like yeah you have your dad's fucking golf game that's awesome tiger during his post round uh press conference

said when referring to him and charlie oh we came up the game oh we get up the fucking we get up the fucking 30 seconds last time what he said we're both unbelievable putters and if so if you don't think that we're going to start talking about Tiger and Charlie in the prospects of his future, after Tiger Woods himself, arguably the greatest putter of all time, said we're both unbelievable putter. So it's crazy, man. This whole thing, it was just so much fun to watch, the whole thing. It's crazy. He's 12, man. He's just, he's 12 years old. He is so young. I was just looked, he was born in 2009. That's, by all intents of purposes, that's yesterday. day. I mean, that is like, he's a child and he's incredible. His golf swing is so pure, so smooth.

Like, when we think about all of our games and just the regular, even professional golfers, there's like a little hitch in a swing. It doesn't seem like it just flows. His is so fluid. It's like water flowing downhill. There's just nothing in the way. And it is so damn impressive. And I was, you know, chatting with some people yesterday and they're like, oh, they're showing Charlie Woods too much. It's like, well, yes, but he is just, he's a needle mover. It's everything. He's in front of everybody's face at the PNC. You know, if there's a couple people out there that you're looking like, it is so fun to watch a young like prodigy in any game. And in my eyes, Charlie Woods is like the second best player of all time right now. Like here's anyone who tries to focus on negatives about

it to me, it's psychotic because those are the only people saying anything negative. It's like everything else is positive. Tiger hardly have chosen to be out there. They know the deal. There are other kids. Henrik Stenson's kid is out there chirping him at the thing. And everyone is positive about it. Everyone's reacting positively. We're all saying this is so fun to watch. We're all rooting for them. It's inspiring everyone to be friendlier with their children and want to get their kids out and play golf with them and be a great father, son, or father, daughter relationship. It's all positive. The only people that are saying anything negative are the people that think that it's negative that are like, oh, you shouldn't beat. Why not? Like, there are actors that

are fucking 12 that everybody watches. Like, there's a golfer that's 12 that everybody's watching because his dad wants him out there playing and competing. And again, this was clearly Charlie's favorite two days he's probably ever had. And that's an awesome, awesome thing. If he emerges next year and he's quit golf and now he's swimming full time, he never. He never, plays golf again. That's fine. Who gives a shit? He was there, had this unbelievable experience. We all witnessed it. Everybody's internet is full with fucking heart emojis and positive stuff left and right and holidays and merry Christmas. Everybody's all excited except people that find the negative in everything. They're the only ones finding any negative in any of this. I will say,

if Tiger, or, oh, go ahead. If he wants to just be playing golf, I'll be a little sad. If he wants to do that, though, like if he wants to stop being in the spotlight, he'll just stop being in the spotlight. Like I don't know what the fuck Wayne Gretzky's son's doing. I don't know what Michael Jordan's son's up to right now. Like they're just living life being normal people with a shit ton of money and they get to just have their lives. They didn't want to be like they weren't in that fucking field. But he clearly wants to be in it. And while he's in it, we're going to be going crazy every second.

Right. I will say as as long as he decides to stick with golf, the PNC is a must watch event. Like next year, the anticipation, again, if he continues with it, which would be great if he does, will be, I mean, off the charts. I don't know how you can get more anticipation than we've had this year after the first year, but going into the third year, I mean, it's a top five must see golf event

every single year. Think about how happy PNC is right now. This was like a tournament that was like, you know, yeah, okay, cool, whatever. Oh, the day. Last year and this year. Right, now it's the biggest, the big, it's like, it's a fifth major.

I mean, it is so big. The CFO. when that CFO was on there, he was like, oh, yeah, this is fucking great. Oh, we paid fucking a discount prize. Our tournament's in mid-December. We got Tiger fucking Woods out of here parading around with his kid two years in a row.

I mean, what tournament sponsor would you, like, what level would you trade? Is it, do you have to go all the way to the players championship before there's a more valuable sponsorship from a title sponsor standpoint than the PNC right now? Those are like the three most popular letters

in America right now. It's true. It's insane. I mean, the memorial, like, the memorial's not more exciting than that. Who the fuck wins that tournament? Like, and that's a major, that's a huge tournament. That's as big as it gets outside of the top majors and the players is like the Memorial, Bay Hill. Like, there's a few up there.

I think this, this gets way, way more love than that than either one of those. It's just so, it's so different. It's so, I mean, you, if you watch the, like, the social, clips that come out of it, there's not much to them, but you know that they're special. Like, it's basically anytime Tiger and Charlie look at each other or fist bump or are walking next to each other or are just standing next to each other, like sort of leaning on their putters the same way, people are like, holy fucking shit, this is amazing. And no other tournament has that, literally none.

It's the most movie-esque tournament in all sports or just event in all sports. It really is. Everything feels like it was crafted by a writer's room. Like people sitting around a table saying, how could we make the most dramatic, incredible, non-real situation of all time? Since I got on this podcast, it was 2-1. The Islanders were losing with like six minutes left. It's not 3-3 in overtime.

So much stuff has happened. Goals have been called back. The Islanders took the lead. They give up a goal with 30 seconds left. Now they're in three-on-three overtime. It's fucking chaos. Overtime is not for the faint of heart either. And then on top of all of that, you've got the relationship between J-T,

and Charlie and that does that feels like a movie too and the woodses and the thomas is frankie's right it the whole thing feels like a movie and joey lacava and joey lacava junior just on the bags and just psychotic amount of of storylines uh black rifle coffee real quick talking about storylines this is one of the great storylines in all the coffee all right b rcc black rifle coffee continually committed to supporting veteran law enforcement and first responder causes 2020 black rifle coffee donated more than 6 million cups of coffee to deployed soldiers, law enforcement, and medical workers through their signature, buy a bag, give a bag initiatives. Black Rifle Coffee imports high-quality coffee beans from all over the world, roast five

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Does the rest of the podcast feel that way? I don't know. I think that it's going to be, I think it's going to be way more circumstantial in real time than it is like planned. I think there's a chance that if Tiger Woods, you know, a week before the U.S. Open is like, my leg's just not in good shape right now. I heard that he'll just sit out the U.S. Open.

Like, I think that's not crazy. Even if he's already played in the players and the masters, I could see him looking at the forecast at the British Open. But it being like, yeah, I've won at San Andrews a couple times by a combined 13 shots, but it's going to be fucking 45 degrees of blowing one day. I just, I'm not going to go over there. I could see that world. I think it's unlikely.

I think he'll play in all four. Based on what I saw, he's going to win all four. And you're crazy to have to bet on him to be in him and Charlie might share a couple of them. I don't know. But I still just don't think it's a lock because he's so unpredictable and walking is a huge part of it. And he keeps saying, he keeps downplaying it so much. Big time. He told us a couple days ago that he, he can't hit his swing speeds less than Charlie's.

I mean, Charlie carries at 210. I was watching Tiger Woods hit at 350. So, I mean, I don't know what the fight. He's spotting dives, eating apple. I don't know what he's doing. And his swing speed was equal to Kalamorakawa swing speed all year on tour, who's like the greatest player that we've ever saw at his age. So at this point, I don't think I'm committing myself to believing that Tiger Woods will be back for all four.

I'm not even at 100% for the Masters still. I thought this is still a hit and giggle. What we saw was incredible out of him. I just can't picture him walking down the fucking golf courses with the undulations and the fucking fairways and walking up to the T-boxes, that whole fucking thing, four days, practice round. I can't, it just seems too soon. I think what we saw is incredible to know that in a year, maybe the 2023 masters, like Tiger Woods is going to just be Tiger Woods, where we're a year and a half removed from the crash and we're not just a year removed. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know that we're there yet.

I think, yeah, I think that's all fair. Because if we're being 100% honest with ourselves, and I agree that he looked great when he was swinging the club, not so great when he's walking around. He looks like an older guy, an older guy who just had pretty serious surgery on one of his legs that he almost lost. Like, him having the cart, he needed that cart. He wasn't just going to walk up and down those fairways.

I think he plays in the Masters. And there was a, there was a quote that he had over the weekend during one of his interviews. where he said, since the crash and since I've been out of bed, there hasn't been a day that has gone by that we haven't worked on something. I've been working my ass off every single day since I've been able to. That gives me confidence that, you know, four months from now, a little less than four months from now, maybe he will be able to tee it up at Augusta and walk those fairways because we know he's going to give it 100% every single day. It's just him walking

around, it wasn't, he looked like he was hurting a little bit. Yeah, it wasn't easy. But I think, I agree with you. I think if he plays at Augusta, he's playing all four just because I think that's probably the toughest walking course. I've never been there. You guys have, but like the undulation there is brutal and it's on a hillside. It's bad for your hips, the whole thing. But the major venues this year are so iconic that I just feel like he wants to play in every one of them. Like, I, like, I can't see him skipping, you know, the country club or going over and playing at the old, like, those are just such iconic.

He's got incredible history at all of them, too. It's insane. How about Southern Hills? I don't know. Southern Hills, he won the 2007 PGA championship there. Let's go. That's just music to my year. Brookline, he stood on the first tee in his singles match and played against somebody that they

had sat the entire week thus far to that point because his game, the guy who's playing, his game was so bad. apparently Tiger just looked him right in the eye on the first T and was like, I hope you're ready for this. They beat him like seven and six. So he's like got really good. He's won at San Andreas twice. Obviously it's San Jose won the Masters five times.

So yeah, history-wise, it's about as good as it gets in terms of setups. And so, yeah, I think, look, I hope you're 100% correct. It is, it's just so fucking unpredictable with this guy. But yeah, even if he can come with the game that he's, had today or this yeah today like I feel like he could compete in one of those I mean I'm not saying he's going to win but but now you're going to give him four months five months six months to get ready let me ask yes is it is there any rule that states he can't just hire an unbelievably strong huge caddy to just carry him from shot to shot what's to say Joey can't do it also like

you're not allowed in the majors at all there's no like there's no way in hell that he'll ever take a cart he said that this weekend he'd never take a car cart. He was like, I will never apply for a cart because if I need a cart that I'm not at the level that I need to be. God, that's a stud answer. That's an unreal answer. It is a stud answer. But like, as a certain point, it's like, let's use the carts. What if he did the motorcycle carts? Those things are starting to get hot. Imagine him rolling down the 18th at Augusta in the motorcycle. Holy fuck. I'm more on, on Riggs' side. I think he needs like a Dewey-esque caddy that'll carry him from from shot to shot. And then we're golden. I don't know if the special rules or not.

We've got to shoot out on Long Island. Who are they playing? Vegas. They're playing Vegas. Ooh. Yeah. Robin Leonard, the old Islander's goal. That's right.

Who says that he says the Islander saved his life. Yeah, he went through a ball. And we gave up a goal. Yeah. Yeah, he played for one. He played like 50 games to the Islanders. He was a big prospect. Yeah.

Yeah, he played 50 games of the Islanders. And he got a tattoo of Long Island on. his neck. So, I mean, he loves this place. Is that what that? I didn't know what that is, but he's got a crazy tattoo on his neck. Yeah, he just got one. I mean, they're going to lose this game.

This will be the worst loss of the year. You should be a little, Frankie, big old neck tattoo. That'd be great. Yeah, but that was, I mean, anyways, that was just like, that golf was as fun to watch as it could possibly be. Like, pretty much every father-son combo was amazing just to see them play, you know, the whole bit. Obviously, I would, well, not obviously, but I was.

most amazed again by Charlie and then also by the Daily Boys. Like I thought they were both incredible. John Daly's son is as good and as strong as a golfer as I think you can have out there. I'll be interested how he does it because he's in Arkansas, I believe. I think he's a freshman in Arkansas. Yeah. How about J.D.2 was putting second. I found that fascinating.

That is. Yeah, I wondered because like John Daly is John Daly. So maybe he was thinking like I've never needed anyone to read a put for me or like hit one. So like, I'm just going to do my thing. And then if I happen to miss, like you now have a read. You're a sick golfer at the collegiate level. They didn't even have a chance, this team. I like when your golf thoughts trail and then it's just like hockey update.

That's a hockey thought. That was like a hockey interrupted thought, clearly. No, I think JD number two, he's got, it's quieter than you would expect. but he's got a serious bit of confidence inside of him. And I think that played a lot into the putting order, I would imagine. I don't know. John Daly with his outfits and his beard and everything, you know, that's just never going to get old.

You have to love John Daly. He's ripping the dart, like you said, come down 18. So, yeah, it's just nothing on Earth was going to overshadow the woods today, unfortunately for those guys. They deserve it. They played incredibly well, especially down the stretch. I mean, there was heat going on. There's clearly like roars out there.

There's Charlie right in front of them, throwing dart after dart. How about on 17? Charlie played the same tease as everybody else. I mean, Charlie, it's like Charlie, Tiger, Coacher's kid. They're all playing from like 179 or whatever it was. And Charlie hit one to four feet, stepped up and made the putt. I mean, even the announcers were like, nobody's been going for that side of the green.

It's so tight over there that no one's even daring to go over there. And Charlie Woods just throws a fucking dart down. I mean, that was the most impressive shot, I think of the week for me. Just with all the pressure. I think what were they at 10 straight birdies at that point? Just lighten everything up. Obviously, there's going to be a buzz going around the golf course. The internet is going absolutely insane.

And he steps up to the same tease as everybody else and just throws it to four feet. Like, that to me, like if I'm looking into the future, that's going to be a clip that's shown like, hey, remember, you know, Charlie Woods is doing all this now in the world. Remember when he was fucking 12 years old doing this in front of his dad, in front of Coacher, in front of. in front of these huge crowds. Like, what a moment for the kid. Yeah. He's cocky, too. There's no doubt about it.

And I love that part about him. I love that tenacity. I love that. The reason why I brought up the sinks in the beginning, there's a huge difference. I think it's like that across the board. I'm more hateable now than I was when I was 12. It's just a fact.

Like, the older you get, the more your face becomes punchable and all these things. Something about where Reagan's sink is in his life. I just don't like it. I don't like his... Is it Reagan? It's Reagan, right? I don't like when he takes 45 minutes discussing how perfectly they're going to attack this shot.

And then he just hits it in the water and acts like, oh yeah, all right. All right, dad, like, go again. He did that bolt days. I think it was on like 16. Wherever that water is, when they try and clear it on the second shot, he just kept hitting in the water. And it's like the way that they talk through the shots, it's like they're the first caddy combo player combo to ever like talk about. out a shot and like the way that the fucking media was going after and being like you guys are in

sync you guys take every step together it's like they had the belt buckles on the belt buckles on and like every time he missed a putt he said like oh it was a great read I just pushed it like you heard him on the mic saying that so it's like there's just something about he's seen the success which i'm happy for them and stewart sings seems like a great guy he seems like a great guy too we got to get reagan sync on the show and and you have to talk it out of it well no it's one of the situations where like I would never know how to like express why he just comes off like the wrong way to me just like how people I come off the wrong way to people on the show I just like I don't know I just don't like him that much I don't have to he's he's no you don't have to you can dislike people if you

want you know he's 24 his dad had what two wins last year so he probably with him on the bag with him on the bag so he probably feels in a little bit he's cocky that I agree like the way he walks He's got the flowing hair. Yeah. He's pretty much the same size as his dad. They have the same gate when they walk. Like, but if,

if I was 24 and I, it did, he sort of feels like he figured out the game of golf. Yes. I would be cocky as fuck too. Totally. 100%. We're just the fucking idiots in our parents

fucking baseman talking about it on a podcast. My point is that I was happy they didn't win. And I think golf needs a little bit more of that. even at the father-son championship. Well, yeah, of all the teams in the top five there down the stretch, I would say they were the team I wanted to win the least. We need more of rooting against people.

Oh, right? Yeah, I do agree that, like, it should be okay that you're like, yeah, I don't want them to win. I am sick. I'm sick of rooting for the sport where no matter who wins, we all fucking clap and giggle and high-five each other. It's the fucking dumbest thing in the sport of God.

I love that you pick this event, though. Yeah, I don't give a fuck. But go on, what are you saying? It's just the only sport in the world where, like, you're going into it and no matter who wins, you have something good to say at the end. I would have been, I would have been distraught if the sinks won. I would have been so angry. Anybody about the sinks, I was saying, all day long. Because you need that, man.

You got to go after some people in sports. You have to. It's sport. There's one team and there's another team. It was everybody versus the sinks for me. I agree with you. A hundred percent. We've said for five years now that there needs to be more.

more of like it's fine to root against people that you don't like. But I think it's tough if you ever try to force it. Like if you're forcing there to be an adversary or a negative figure and it's just five guys down the stretch that you like all of them, then I think that's completely fine. Like if you have, you know, when it was like Moracow against Smith down the stretch at the British Open, it's like, you're really going to be like I fucking, it would be so pissed if one of these guys, it's like, you really like both of them. What are you supposed to do?

Right. No, and this Reagan thing for Frankie isn't new. Like, he didn't pick that this week to start. No. Yeah, I talked about this on the podcast. He sort of had that feeling about him for a while now. Yeah, I've had that talk on this podcast. I didn't know how I felt about him out there.

I was happy actually when they won for the first time in a long time. I forget where that was. It was in like the Carolinas, right? Hilton Head. I believe it was. Yeah. Yeah, and that was like a pretty cool story. His whole family was there, like the wife.

I think she was battling with like health issues and the sink family. So like, and they had a pretty good interview the other day, Stuart Sink and his son about like just like how the mom like taught them how to like battle and all this stuff. Like that's all great and I love that stuff. Like just something about when I see that fucking side angle shot of the camera watching Stewart Sink and Ragan's Sink walked on the fairway and I got to listen to him talk about all the fucking intricacies of their shot and then he just drains one in the water.

It's like come on, dude, just hit the ball. You haven't figured out the game of golf. That's my point. They're using the system that I'm now completely forgetting as I start. to talk about it. What system are they using? We've had the guy on the show. Oh, the, uh, decade, uh, decade. I was just saying legacy golf. I believe they're using that, aren't they?

I think so. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they are. And I'm sure this comes off as hypocritical with my Bryson love, but right also the sinks hadn't gone to the rider cup and fucking wielded their driver like a sword in front of the entire fucking crowd and won. He didn't a sword. That's true. He did. So that's why I love Bryson. I don't care. Um, I got a quick, uh, question. Where do you think? guys think my car is right now? What? Where do you think my car is? Mm-hmm. Um, the bottom of a lake or something? No, I hope not. I think it should be at, I left it at Colton

Nose's house last night. And the point of this story is that if you're hanging out with some friends, you're putting back a few drinks, you should drive sober or you will get pulled over. You should leave your car somewhere and make sure you can arrange another ride because it is extremely dangerous and perilous to drive if you've had drinks. See where I'm going here? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Our boy Josh Isner put on a nice little Christmas party last night.

Him and his wife, Christina, put on a lovely Christmas party last night. And, you know, the whole band was there. We had a bunch of the Dadbod Classic people. Almost the entire Dadbod Classic tournament was there. Colt's going to be a new addition this year. So there was a ton of chatter. Speaking of, like, huge people that could carry Tiger Woods around, our guy Connor was there.

Beast. Everybody was there. Basically the entire dad bod was there. Yeah, he's like six, nine. And it was a delightful time. But again, a few cocktails, a few drinks. Transfusions from Owens were consumed. So I got to go pick up my car after we do this podcast.

I got an Uber over there, which is a very small price to pay compared to much worse consequences if you drive after several drinks, if you drive drunk. So if you think you're okay to drive after a few drinks, do yourself a favor, do everyone a favor. Think again. Play it safe. and plan ahead to get a ride. It takes one mistake to change your life or someone else's life forever.

Drive sober or get pulled over. For more information about the Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over campaign, visit www. NHTSA.gov slash Drive Sober. Again, what's more concise link we're working with here versus the train thing? You know, the train one was, there's too much. It's tough. Nobody's fine. To give feedback to the train folks.

I just don't know how you can find that link. But this one, again, it's NHNHTSA.gov slash drive sober. So go check that out for more on the drive sober and get pulled over campaign. Hey, Riggs, I got a question for you now that we're asking everybody questions. In the four play group chat a few days ago, you asked me if I was a good bowler or not, completely out of the blue, didn't know where it came from. I had no idea what was happening. One of the weirder texts I've ever gotten, I've weirdly felt exposed.

You asked me in front of all of the people who are in the four play group chat, are you a good bowler? I didn't want to answer it first. And then I eventually told you no. And then I was like, why are you asking me this question? And you refuse to answer my question. And I want you to answer that question right now. Why are you asking if I'm a good bowler or not? So I was out with a group of people.

And one of the folks said, hey, by the way, I'm from the same state as Trent. and we started saying, oh, wow, we started talking about Iowa. And he said, yeah, me and my friends, we would like, we were chirping about being from Iowa and like the same stupid jokes like, you know, cornboy. What do you guys do? Go tip fucking cows and all that stuff. And then at one point, he was like, you know, we would do so. Like, we would go, we would just go bowling all the time.

And he was like, I bet Trent's a good bowler. And I was like, hmm, I, you know, I don't know. Like, we've never gone bowling of all the things we've done together, golfing, traveling around the world. We've never been bowling. So then we kind of got to a debate at the table of like half the people are like, I bet Trent's a damn good bowler. And half the people are like, I don't see it. And so I said, well, let me just ask them. So I asked you. And you got very defensive right away. And you ultimately said no. So how bad of a bowler are you? I don't think I'm any worse than the average person who never goes bowling. You know what I mean? Like if you put a bowling ball in my

hand at a bowling alley. I think it'll go okay. It won't be very good, but it won't be like horrific. But I was just, I was so caught off guard with that question. I don't agree with, um, the other Iowa person in this conversation that bowling, bowling is not an Iowa thing. I get that he was just saying like, oh, you know, what we used to do was sometimes we would go bowling. I don't think that needs to be immediately labeled as a thing. We kind of cornered them into it. We kind of cornered them into it. It feels like that. I feel like, I feel like people on this, um, on the, this podcast have gone bowling far more times than I have. Frankie, Frankie feels like a bowler. I'm not a bowl. I tried, I tried to get into bowling. You got to have the bowler vibe.

I tried to get into bowling when I was younger. We had the whole, we got the ball. My dad's a good bowler. Every time he, every time he bowls. I used to, not anymore. My dad has the thing where it pops. Every time it lets go, he would wear the little wrist thing too. Oh, your dad definitely has his own ball, right? Your dad has his own ball. There was a point in my life where our whole family had balls. There we go. It's a Long Island thing. I was 12 or 13. We also had a bowling eye right down the road. That's a bowling family. It's not, see, it's not a bowling family, though. I would see less than 10% of families have balls, maybe five, maybe less than 5% of all families have a bowling ball. My mom, my mom's a huge bowler. Shout to my mother. Listen, she's been in a

bowling league. For many years of her life, she's been in two bowling leagues every week. But she, and I would say, I want to say probably, up until maybe 10 or 15 years ago, she, in a couple of her leagues, she carried like a 190-something average. Wow. That's good bowling. Really? I mean, obviously it's lower now. Like father time takes its toll, but she's still pretty fucking solid and bowls her and her, her and my sister bowl in a league in the Boulder, Colorado area. And we'll pull a pun there, unrelated. And she actually requested, um, I said, hey, I'd love to get you guys some barstool merchandise here when we were doing all the plugs around Black Friday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, and they each have a barstool bowling ball bag, which I didn't even sell those? Wow, we sell those.

Barstle Carl, I believe, fronts that. He's a big bowler, and I think he got some barstool bowling merch in the store, yeah. The only bowling thing we had as kids was our dad just told us if you bowled under 100, you're pathetic. And that was literally it. But that was the only, like, when we go, it's like, so now when I go, it's like, if I ever don't break 100, I know that my dad not with me, but knows that I'll be pathetic. Let me ask you this. I'm so not a bowler that I don't know the answer to this question. If I went bowling right now, if I left my apartment and found a bowling alley in New York City, which I don't even know if those exist, would I be expected to break 100?

I don't think you're, I don't think you're, I don't think you do. I think you're probably expected to and you're embarrassed, but I think you finish for like an 88. No, no, no, no, no. I think you bowl a one. Trent's not making spares. I don't know. I don't know.

I would say. Okay. All right, pizza boy. Here we go. I was waiting for that because, you know, it's so funny that everyone's just assuming Iowans are good bowlers just because they fucking, you know. That's what it came from.

That's what it came from. That's what the whole conversation came from. Right. People assume that I'm an ASCAR fan. People assume that I'm a pro wrestling fan. People assume a lot of things about me. You are a pro wrestling fan, right? what do you mean you dabble with

what do you mean what do you well when I lived with Robbie Fox I watched it oh not growing up no I was not a wrestling guy growing up wow I yeah I just it for whatever reason it didn't come to my door we were big NWO fans yeah no it wasn't it wasn't a thing like in my household like my brother was never into it my nobody my bowling school what I never realized was how different lanes to lanes like one bowling alley to another bowling alley was because of like the way... The wax? The wax?

I never knew any of that shit. You're from such a bowling family that you're like, some of the lanes are different. Frankie is like, some of the lanes that we go to a deal. I'm not, though. If you were,

Frankie, if you were going to go roll, what would you kind of expect to, to bowl? What number? 145. Okay, that's good.

That's not bad, no? 125. That's not bad. No, it's not that good though. It's like it's a bunch of spares. Bowling hardos now that come after.

us. I feel like when you break the 130 threshold, I feel like is like above average bowling. Now, it's like my golf game. I could throw up a 70 up there. I could just miss every. You know what I mean? It's like my golf. Like I can't too.

I'm pretty bad bowler. I would say if we all four went, I'd be surprised if I didn't over three games average the worst. I could get hot. Everybody can. But I overall, I'm pretty bad. I look at the arrows.

I'm at that level of bowling. So at least I'm above the person, the people I just look at the worst. Yeah, the second from the right middle one, is that where you're trying to throw? Yes, you want to try and roll that ball right in between the second and third pocket of those arrows. That's where I like, that's my sweet spot. Trent, there's these arrows. I look at the pins.

There's these arrows right in front of you and you just got to roll it over the arrow. It's like, it's like putting where you just find your hole. It's fucking awesome, man. The next time you go bowling, look at the arrows, you will, fuck. You will be dynamite. Are you a spinner or you a straight ball thrower? I used, like, when I had my own shit, you know, I had the fingertip ball. So I had a fingertip ball and then I'd also have a spare ball.

I actually had two balls at one point. Dude, I feel like a spare ball would go be a more straight ball. Are the Borelli's going to open an Italian place or are they going to open a bowling alley? I feel like at one point you have neck and neck. You have a spinner ball where it's real high in the, in the, with the ring finger and the middle finger, you got your high up there. You know what I mean? They're high. They're inserts in there.

So it's kind of an easy release and the spin would come out. And then the and then the spare ball would typically be heavier. And you're just trying to go for a straight. ball there when you're trying to hit the left side or the right side but i don't know i don't know bowling to the level where i can talk to it you do you know there's there's bowlers listening to this this time i've ever seen you kind of like smirk holding back because it feels like a topic you don't want to go into you don't want you don't want you don't want people to know how into it you are there might be bowling alley below borelli's like if you go into a trap door you might find a couple lanes

i'm not good at bowling at all and i haven't been bowling in 10 years i just remember this from my childhood of like we would always go like i'd go with my dad my mom got into it my sisters would go and like we weren't joining a league but like we'd like to go on the nice where they turn the lights down and like it would be a whole thing like it'd be like a party this crew might have to go this crew might have to go bowling at some point i think the next travel series we fit in a little bowling and what's definitely and i don't want any expectations like i could shoot i could do you call it a shoot see i don't even know no you bowl oh you play now you're playing now you're playing you roll a number yeah right right is it a ball it's a round ball isn't it

Is that what it is? I'm going to roll it down the lanes. Call it a fair way or is it a what is it? All I know now is that you guys, Frankie specifically, were being mean when you said that I would bowl an 88. That's mean. I feel like it's mean. 88's saying he's not a decent athlete.

That's what I do. I just think it's a lot of seven days. If you bowl like a 115, it's like average. Do you think if we win and we played three games, I feel like three games is standard? Yeah. If we went the four of us, would the lowest number posted be higher than 88? No.

There would be one round where somebody gets off the wheels. 77. Yeah. And they just do it. All right, we got to do it. Next travel series. We'll find a bowling alley and we'll do it. I like that.

I think Frankie is the odds on favorite to close. No. He's going to bowl at 2.15 and be like, whoa. I may love his own shoes. He's going to have his own ball. He's going to have one of those. special fucking rags that like cleans it right proper yeah like big lobowski i might like the sport of bowling i'm not saying i'm good at it just like i

fucking live and breathe hockey i can't get on the ice with you guys like i don't i'm not expected to score any higher than you are i just happen to like it yeah no we're live and breathe bowling is that way you're a bowler you're not a bowl i wouldn't consider myself a bowler i think you have to bowl i haven't bowled bold i've showed up to a bowling i with friends before and maybe five times the last 10 years. That's not a bowler. Come on. Carl's a bowler. If you, if your family has balls, you're a balling family. We don't have balls anymore. We did. We did. We did. I may have.

There was a time in which I was a baller. Is there one bowling ball in your home right now? Yeah, there's a bowling ball. Somewhere. Somewhere. You know, it's still hanging around is his dad's risk card that he has, which I'll tell you what, not many families have that risk card either. Nothing easier for my mind to accomplish than picturing Mr. Borelli as a bowling. He's just club.

It's the pop. You got to hear the pop. Right when he releases it, he goes, and you're like, come on, dude. You're not trying to get that pop. Holy shit. If you see an alligator on the course, the goal wasn't to be the fastest,

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It's tough, man, especially the lead-up to the holidays. Like, December might be the least healthy month that you can imagine. So what I've been doing is, because I'm going home in the next week or so, and that is not as much as lurch, but it's going to be a feast at the household. So you've got to lead up to that trip. I've been trying to eat as much trifect as I can just to, like, mitigate the damage to a certain point. Because once I take off and land in Cedar Rapids, that's a wrap.

What's the first thing you're eating? Well, actually today, Sunday that we're recording was baking day. I couldn't make it because I'm not back home yet. Back in Iowa was baking day? Yeah, my mom, it's a tradition that she gets as many people together as she can and they bake a bunch of goodies. They bake a bunch of cookies and fools toffee and just all of this stuff. And then I missed it.

Like I said, I'm not there. I'm still in New York City. But as soon as I land and I get to the house, it's just in piles around the kitchen. and I just wander around and grab as much as I can. Come here. Yeah. And they have an endless, you know, supply of soda at the house. Hercules.

So, yeah. It's in farts at the table. Like, they're, it's just, I'm so happy to see them. They're so happy to see me. The vibes are great. And we're just, we're just eating. My family is similar to lurches in that, like, we do, our strong bond of ours is around food. So when I get there, my dad is just like, let's go.

Let's do this. Let's do it now. I don't get... Like his wife, your mom is cooking up all this food and he doesn't have like probably a true eater next to him. Two of you just sit back and you're like, yeah, let's get another one. It's crack another one. Yeah, one more little like, you know, side cake or whatever the case is. Right, he'll do the thing where everybody's done and it's like later in the night

and I'll be just kind of hanging around and he'll be like, oh, do you try any of that whatever over there? And then if I go do it and I know to now, it opens the door for. him to be like, I'll try a little with you. Because otherwise my mom will be like, why are you eating so late? And it's just kind of becomes a thing. But if I'm there, I'm a buffer where we're both eating it and it's not that big of a deal. That's nice.

That's nice. It's exciting. What's your mom's top item that she makes? I mean, there's a lot. But I really do like the Fool's Toffee. Do you guys know what Fool's Toffee is? No. I'm not going to be able to explain it because it's my mom makes it and I just eat it.

but it's it's a delicious, delicious thing that she makes, and I eat the most of it when I'm back home. When I'm back, I'll send you guys a picture of it. It's just really, really good to one of her specialties. Did I send you a picture of what my neighbor, the chocolates my neighbor makes?

You send a picture to me, yeah. Dude, these little chocolates, it's a square cube. She gets this chocolate imported from like England, I think, and it's the softest milk chocolate you've ever tasted in your life. She has, the chocolate is encasing about, three marshmallows in each in each cube peanut butter is whipped inside there and then just the slightest

piece of nut now whether it's a peanut or maybe an almond is in there i'm not sure it might be an almond shavings of almond and you bite into these things and it melts in your mouth but then you get the slightest bit of crunch in there with all the peanut butter dude it's it always comes in a tin it's a nightmare how much chocolate you end up eating because the tin's filled and you're popping them like popcorn And you're like, if this wasn't a rapper, the wrappers would be to the fucking ceiling. But because they're exposed chocolates, I've now eaten 45 pieces of exposed chocolate. It would be, it would be unimaginable if you had those in wrappers, that amount of chocolate. Like if you, if you went by ounces, I had an unimaginable amount of chocolate the other night.

See, I just looked up, Fool's Toffee. That stuff's great. I know that stuff. And it's easy to eat. It's super sweet. super covered in butter, but it's outrageously good. And speaking of bad eating, actually. Here we go.

How's your update? Because we've got many people have been requesting via emails and others updates on your juice cleanse and just your general eating habits over the last few days or weeks. See, anything you want to say before I get into the weeks? I just want to say that Frankie and I are the undercard in this. We gave our experiences that we have when we go home and we eat and now the main event is about to start. No, no, no, no.

You're an eater tea. I think you're definitely varsity. I think if you were going to bake down eating, though, my family, I think, is world-class. I think we're, I think we're Woods echelon eaters. Like, we're in that, maybe not Woods, but we're a Kisner level of eating in this world. I'm starving right now. Oh, it's the best. I think you give yourself the credit of the woods because what you've explained on this show in

the past is is prodigy level stuff it is the top yeah for sure i have i have been eating much much healthier now i do have setbacks yesterday i had a terrible eating day actually i started hot and then i i i we had we played paddle all day i actually did the same thing ubered home with big drinking day but we went to vows kind of local bar here and i i just couldn't stop eating the pizza i think i probably had eight slices last i had a whole pie last night last night night, I think. And then I woke up this morning. I was hung over and actually, so I had a police car all weekend. I was driving around an Axon fleet vehicle. So I had like license plate. The drone came out of the top. So I had to drive that back to Pennsylvania today. And then pick up my car.

And I was trying to have a good day. But then I was like, you know what? Let's just settle in. And so I wake up this morning. I know that I have to drive this back to PA. My brother's like, I'll give you a ride. I get in his car. It's, 915. He's got a pack of gummy bears in the middle. We're just snacking on the gummy bears at 915. And I was like, this is, he's just so bad. And then I, I went to a local spot and picked up a pork roll this morning, but I get, I get double pork, double egg on it. So it's a, it's a thick thing. And had that. And then I was like, no, we got to get this thing back under control so I'm not eating and I'm going to have bone broth tonight because weight's a real issue and as

we get older it's harder to lose so I was probably in the 265 range pre-juice cleanse I think I bumped it back down to 252 or something like that I'm probably living at 258 to 262 right now I definitely put back the LBs yeah but I'm I'm more cautious like T was talking about the emotional connection that you have with food. And that's what my brother and I are like, we like are talking about now about how we still have fun together that's not always eating.

That's, that's an issue. Because we have the most fun when we've got like four plates of wings and we're just, we're ready to go. I mean, so good, so fun. I mean, when we were kids, we would have seven chicken breasts for dinner. I think I've told this on

this store. And he'd have three, I'd have three and then we'd look to see who's going to eat the last one. So just to be clear, the first thing that entered your system this morning was gummy bears. It was gummy bears. And you wash it down with a double pork, double egg pork roll. No, yeah, I'm starving right now. We're recording at 520 on Sunday.

I have not decided what I'm eating. We're not doing Sunday sauce here this weekend. They were a little busy at the restaurant, so there's no pasta being made in the Borrelli house. Unfortunately, my dad's at the restaurant. My mom's at the restaurant. So maybe I'll just go to the restaurant tonight. I don't know.

I'm really fucking hungry. I'm really fucking hungry. and like when I'm really hungry, I can eat my chair. Like I'm a thin, rarely guy, but like I can definitely eat when I'm very fucking hungry. Like when we were at fucking Pup Punk the other day, I had 11 slices of pizza that day. Whoa. Good man. Yeah.

Seven before the show. Seven before the show. I had five regular slices and two clam pie slices. I was like, that's a, I was like, I'm not going to be able to play in this concert if I keep going. And then post show, they had five pizzas from the place. that I had gone pre-show and I had to finish it off with two slices from the clam pie again and two slices from the regular like two two when you switch toppings it's essentially starting over so you eat the two regular margarita slices you're like oh that was one thing now I'm eating a clam pie

it's a totally different thing garlic and oil whole new taste bud system you're like everything's just re-entering your body so yeah how is it when you're just settling in and just eating like that well when you can continue because the food is so good Food is so tasty. And there's so many different types of food that you could really enjoy. And so if you're just not getting full, yeah, it's an issue. Like if you're eating 11, you're just going to be obese at a certain point. But like, sometimes if you eat two, you're like, it's just so good.

I like, I would keep eating. But like normal people, I think, I don't know, have two slices. What's an average eater? I will say pizza fills me up quick. Two to three, normally. Two, you're just gotten gone. Depends on the slice. So Sally is a new.

Haven is thin crust, man. So you might as well be eating 10 of them, and it's basically three Borrellys. Like, we just have thicker cheese pizzas. But it's also, like, what you're saying, food just brings you together. Like, to tie it into the golf, Joey Likava Jr. was in the back green room post show, and we had all these pizzas. And it's like, I was eating while I'm talking to them. I'm like, guys, you got to have some of this pizza.

Try this out. Like, you guys know New Haven pizza. We're all eating pizza, talk to each other. So it is, you don't even realize how many are going down. You're walking around. You have two slices on a little paper plate before you. before you know it, you're looking at the pie again. You're like, oh, I might as well just keep going.

I'm walking and talking and eating. I'm working this off as I go. I stepped on a scale the other day. I was 174.5. What do you normally sit in that? Like, if you were like, oh. I'm real thin, dude. I've got arms the size of fucking Q-tips.

So it's like the fat, I don't know what I'm supposed to be, right? Like the weight's in the wrong spots. I've got a barrel of cum belly. I think you were 165. A 165 guy. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that. Bad posture, bad fucking guy.

Probably what you should be at. Little mini-tids. I'm going to do a way in later. I'm going to do a way in. Official way in later. I bet I'm about... You tip it or rigged? I'm probably about 201, 202 right now.

It's a healthy rate. No, I would say that's about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than I was in college when I was obviously in my peak condition. How do you guys feel about the fact that I don't... I'm 40 pounds heavier than I was in a cop. Yeah, I was probably about 242 right now. guess. Huge. How about what do you guys?

It's 70 pounds. How do you, what do you think about the fact that I don't give myself six foot? I had this conversation over the weekend with some friends. I'm 5.11. I've been to some doctors where they say I'm six foot because I have my shoes on. I just don't feel like I'm allowed to say six foot. I'm in the same boat.

I'm 5.11 and 3.4th my whole life. Well, when I was fully grown, every time I went to the doctor, 511 and 3.4s, 511 and 3 4th. 511 and 3 4th. And yeah, I could get by saying I'm six foot, but I don't think I'm a six foot guy.

I'm just not. Same. And I'd feel like I was lying. Like I- In shoes, you are definitely six foot. When you tell them six feet, you're standing six feet tall.

So like it's not a lot. I just always like, same boat. I try to be true to myself and I'm 511 and 3-4s. I say 5-11. Riggs, I'm in.

I thought you were six feet, no? I'm in the same boat as Trent. It's always been like 5-11 and 3-4th or like even a little bit closer, but not truly when they fucking would pat down on your head and you got no shoes or socks on, it wouldn't quite be at six. You know, I mean, college hockey, I was listed at like 6-1, you know, so you got to juice the numbers there.

But in reality, like, I'm also never really in a situation where I would need to say six-foot to impress anyone. Like, if I'm in a conversation with you, idiots, I don't care if you think I'm 5-11 or 6-foot, it doesn't matter. And, like, what am I going to be in a situation where a girl is like, you know, this is make or break if you say five letters. Right. No,

you're going to range. Right. And 511 is a height that's not controversial. Like, totally. If you get down lower in the fives, people start to get like, they get to,

they get mad about it and they're like, you're not my father. Right. Right. 511. It's like, you call me 511 and not six foot like, that's not going to start a war.

Like I'm totally okay. Not my father or my boss. Oh, God. No, 511's a good height. Yeah. It is great because, like, I'm only, I'm three to four inches taller than you guys. And the pictures, I look, I look like I'm a foot and a half pick.

Yeah, just gargantuan. Honestly, gargantuan. Even that one with Harry Higgs, like, you made Trent look like a little baby. The whole, like, the picture is, I don't know. I just, I'm not, that's not what it's like in real life. I don't know why. You guys see the porn hub, like, searches. KFC did a radio, KFC did a one-minute man on it.

Like, the porn hub searches of 2020, came out. where um 2021 came out where like it's the most searched word in each state and there was a whole map coming straight from the porn site and Idaho was like giantism and like everyone then had to go search what that was and it's essentially they remake like Godzilla films where like the girls are like walking around these cities and they're like fucking stepping over shit and guys are getting off to it but my point for bringing that up is like Lurch would fucking excel. That sounds like an only fan's for Lurch.

Giantism. So you're saying giantism? So I should just create a small city and walk around it and stop on it and people are going to get off to this? Yeah. Like you're big feet and like just fucking, you can use real cities. Right. That's what I was going to.

You don't even need to spend money on the little on the on the on the on the, you don't need a set. Just start walking around the city. Just put up all the pictures of you standing next to us. and put that on a giantism only fans. And I think you're going to get. The amazing thing about the Lurches is, have you guys met Lurch's brother?

I have not a twin. He dwarfs. He dwarfs Lurch. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh. No, no. I mean, he's 666, 6.7.

I'm like 6, 3, 6.4. But he's also, he's a big body. I mean, in high school, he was a pretty big. If he had a meaner, like, streak in him, he would have been a big football recruit. He was like a gentle giant, but he was in high school, he was 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 285. But he's similar to you in that, like, he wears it athletically and, you know, you guys play paddle on tennis and you're just two giant creatures walking around. Yeah, these guys are science experiments.

That's insane. The reason I brought up the height in the beginning is because over the weekend we had the debate of like, would you rather be, and this is a common age old debate, would you rather be eight and a half feet tall or like. Like, would you rather be an eight-foot freak or two and a half feet or three feet? A small person, I would rather be eight and a half feet tall. Right. And I don't even think it's that close. I think so too. So, but can you, if you're eight and a half caveat was that you get on an airplane?

Can you like, no way. You couldn't play in the NBA. You're in the, you can. No, the caveat was that you're just, you're an eight and a half. You're a normal person at eight and, okay. You work with my buddy, Rob, financial benefits. You work with my buddy Rob where you never smile. at work. You're just eight and a half feet sitting there

plugging in like medical equipment like doing fucking analyzing if the medical equipment is worth the fucking company. You're yeah you're Will Ferrell and elf. Everything is just not fitting to your side. It's a great movie. So my point was and I think either way it's obviously you drew the shorts the short straw my thing is that is that it? One way you definitely

did. Yeah. You know. I think that when you're 8.5 feet tall, you're like a marvel. Like, people look at you and they go like, oh my God, look at that guy. At least it's, it's somewhat positive. Like the look, you know what I mean? Like it's somewhat like, oh my God, look at that. Look at that. That guy should be in a museum.

And you're, you're narking that down as a positive. Yeah, because the other way, it's like if you're two and a half feet tall, you're just like, sort of like just forgotten about it. Well, no, it's not, but you know what I mean? You're just like, wow. Like, he can't do anything that guy. You know what I mean? Hold on, before we go too far into that. What do you, in which body is life easier?

Because, like, if you're not in the NBA and you're eight and a half feet tall, like, Riggs is great. Like, you can't do any public transportation. You're out on that. Everything specialty made. And, like, if you're saying the financial benefits that you can't work with, I don't companies that want to work with just massively large people is some sort of advertisement.

So you're just working with Rob, you're miserable, and you have a 9 to 5 job where you like make an okay check but you're not bragging about it and you go home. I almost think that being eight and a half feet tall is harder to live life than we're doing two and a half. Bro, the reason I think you're hard. Your life is harder, man. The standard ceiling, I think, is eight feet tall in most houses, right?

Yeah, dude. Your life is a nice thing. You're where, I mean, literally. He should be wearing, he or she should be wearing a helmet at all times. Because you're just clipping everything. So I, and the food bill, I mean, how much is this guy eating? This guy's kind of eating all the time to keep himself. Wow.

A big of a toilet would you have to have to be like able to use the rest, you know, it's the whole thing is. I think I'm still sticking with eight and a half feet. I think if you're walking down the street in the city, I think at least like everyone's like, ooh in and on you as opposed to like. Bro, you would grow to hate that. You would resent those people. Like at first, yeah, maybe like, oh, look at me. I'm huge. This is so cool and so much fun.

And then when you just want to go, when you just want to walk down the street to get a coffee, and people are like, look at that fucking guy. Like, it's less fun. When we were growing up, my brother was six feet tall in the eighth grade. He was like six or six one in the eighth grade. Wow. So, you know, we go over to dinner parties or something like that.

And they're like, look how tall this guy is, like back to back. And my brother was like, like, fucking look elsewhere. This is brutal. Every comment is about my height. Like, can I just be a regular person or somebody that just gets like not stared at all day long? Well, and everybody's going to say, everybody's going to say, oh, that guy must play basketball. And then when they go up to you and be like, what team you want to be like, I don't play basketball, then be like, disappointing.

Yeah. So, all right. So the main debate was like, would you rather be eight and a half feet tall or hazbula? Because we were talking about Hasbula. And has to be Hasbula now. Right. So do I. but the Hazbullah's Hizbullah because he's Hesbullah.

He's a one in a billion. He might as well be Muhammad Ali. He's his personality, his pizzazz, he's a firecracker. He's punching people in the face. He's spraying them with hoses. He's awesome. He's the best creation on this planet, regardless of height. But my point is like if you're just regular Hazbullah, people think, people thought

that Hazbulla was a baby boy. He's 18 years old. They thought he was a child. Dave tweeted out, wait, Hzbullah's 18. like that would be a tough way to live walking around looking like a baby and he's like two and a half feet tall so yeah like that's a tough way to live

I think I might I'd rather be the eight and a half foot tall guy at least you're just like I mean neither neither is a good spot to be like if we're gonna be honest both stink but I'm gonna I'm gonna go with being eight and a half feet tall I ain't that I'll just be eight and a half feet tall well they stink because both both just make your life harder than it needs to be right

That's just what just sucks. It's like life already is impossible. Everybody's going through shit all the time day by day. And now it's just made infinitely harder for no reason. It's like there's no like Ben, there's no good reason. It's like, Joe, I don't want to be a million feet tall or I don't want to be two less feet. I just want to be like able to get through shit relatively normally so that it's not already fucking way harder than it has to be.

How tall is a small person? How what is that that height? I think it varies. I mean like Zah is the tallest fucking he's, Zah is a is a, is a brick shithouse. Yeah, Zaz Zah wears like a large t-shirt.

He wears like a large t-shirt. He wears like a large t-shirt. Like there's no, there's no, I don't think there's like a definitive range. I didn't know if there was like a range. Like if I was going to say like, no human beings are between males

are probably between, I don't know, five foot two and. I don't know. Seven, eight. I'm going two and a half. Final answer. I would say,

to go back to our original discussion, there's any, I think there's a much larger difference between claiming your 5-9 or 5-10 and 5-11 and 6-foot. Good wrap. Yeah. Next topic. Yeah. I think that's right. Right? Like I think we were saying like, yeah, I don't really care if somebody says a 5-11 or if I'm 6-foot.

I do think at that 5-9 level, you want to be able to claim 5-10. You want double digits there big time. I mean, big time on the double-digit side. I also think you don't want to be, like, much taller than 6-6.6. But certainly if you're, if you're like 6-9 and 6-10, actually, they both sound just massive. I wish I was, I wish I was 6-2. 6-2 is nice. Like, Tiger's like 6-2, I think.

Right, that's a beautiful height to be. People always think that I'm going to be taller. Like, I met some guy who was at the Ranger game the other day and he was like, Lurch. And, like, he was like my size. He was like, dude, I thought you were going to be like 6-10. I was like, no, man, I don't know why in pictures. you photograph like 610 for some reason. I know. It's crazy. It's so weird.

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but I mean, Charlie and Tiger were. And his son, Stenson's son was the youngest participant of all time. Very funny at the dinner the night before. Very funny at the dinner night before. definition of a kid that isn't thrown into the limelight as much as the Charlie Woods. And he gets the reaction, I think most people want, the people that hate on the reaction for Charlie Woods, I think want the same reaction that Hendrik Stenson's son gets, where it's like

a very cute, funny thing that he's out there. He kind of like blows you away with how good he is. He's super tiny. He's like 11 years old. And then like he just kind of goes away and he just becomes a kid forever and he doesn't have like a name. He doesn't have expectations. But he's just not Charlie Woods. He hasn't been in our lives as much as Charlie Woods has in the last two or three years. He's not Tiger Woods' son. So yeah, that was my biggest takeaway with that. It was a pretty major difference between the two young kids playing. And then aside from that, Nellie Corda, who was freaking out over meeting Tiger was awesome. That was really cool. Best female golfer on the planet couldn't believe that she got to fulfill her, what she called a dream come true to meet Tiger

Woods and take a picture with him. And then today he was talking to her on the putting green, giving her tips and like all these things they were talking about putting apparently. And she said it's just, that's the greatest. She looked like us. When she met him like she was like us.

She's the greatest female golfer on the planet. And they just, her mind melted. That's just what Tiger does. Her dad's a tennis major champion. One of the Australian open, I believe. The family is outrageous.

Yeah. Family. I mean, Sebcorda is like a tennis prodig. He's probably, I don't know, one of the best young American tennis players. Our family is just a bunch of

free athletes. Lurch, did you watch King Richard yet? Have I talked about that on this podcast? Yeah. I don't know if we've talked about on this podcast, but I watched it. How great of a movie is that? Yeah, really good. The only thing I didn't like is that King Richard, you know, King Richard,

I think he had like editing credit which I wish he didn't have just because he was, I think he could have been portrayed like differently or I don't know, more honestly. I'm very interested in and about him, but that was an incredible movie. And, uh, Will Smith does like just an outrageous job in that. Um, but those daughters.

And it shows you, it does, you know, Venus was such a prodigy. It's such a cool story. And then obviously what Serene has done, it's, it's amazing. But it was a fantastic movie. Yeah, it was a really cool. Oh, my God. It's a really cool look into the conversation we've had about golf with Tiger, where it's like, is it worth it to raise your kids,

the Earl Wood style and the Richard Williams style, where it's like, cut from the same cloth. Cut from the same as that cloth. The only option was to become the best of all time. And he was going to stop at nothing to have that happen. And it happened. So he caught lightning in a bottle,

happened to have super, super athletic children that just figured out how to play tennis. They loved it and then they went on to become the best of all time. Tiger Woods just happened to be, have the ability to be Tiger Woods. also had the father that was able to groom him. But like, do you take that risk as a parent? Because it fails one billion...

The ones that don't fail, they make movies about. It fails a billion times out of a billion and one, a billion and two. It fails a billion times out of a billion and two. Yeah, and the other ones, right, are the psychotic parents who are screaming, banging on the glass or they're like lecturing their kids every minute after every game.

And it's like, there's a ton of that that goes on, especially we were at that. Now we all know people that are like youth sports like coaches and they talk about the shit that they deal with with psychotic parents and stuff. So yeah, no, it's not. I don't think it's like worth it. I think we're, no,

we're lucky that Tiger Woods happened that I know that Tiger Woods made the sacrifices that he did, whether he had the choices or not because like we get to just be super fans and be all giddy whenever he's on television and how inspirationally is. But like, do I think, you know, we've talked a lot about like, would I rather be like Tiger woods or you know myself or another person or whatever based on like their pure happiness and the fishbow and what he's really gone through so it's a it's a wildly difficult question I'm excited to watch king richard because I don't really know that story as well as I obviously know the tiger story and all that it's on HBO max I can't recommend it enough I feel like

every person that likes sports in general should watch this movie I put it in like I already put in like my top 10 sports movies of all time maybe top five just because of the performances, man. Like, I really was drawn into it. Like, yeah, there's a million good sports movies. Miracle. I fucking love Miracle. Like, that's probably my favorite sports movie of all time.

The greatest game ever played is one of my fourths. It's maybe my favorite sports movie of all time. Remember the Titans. Remember the Titans is another great one. But, like, I'm telling you, dude, the way that King Richard makes you feel, it's a totally different type of story. It's not like a team. It's just this dad with his two daughters and, like, the stuff they went through.

and yeah I do wish because I went in and like read a lot of reviews about people that like probably knew a little bit more about Richard and like like the scene like with the police officers like it probably was a little more messy than the way that they like when they're coming in being like what are you doing these children playing in the rain like were they actually like laughing or were they like fucking hysterically crying because like the dad was forcing them to play tennis in the pouring rain like in a neighbor probably saw them but like in the movie he's like these girls wanted to play portrayed as like a hero the whole time totally like you know that there was some other shit going on because like it's like There just had to have been, like, the way that he, he parented them. So, fuck, it's a great movie, though. It is a fantastic, fantastic movie. Can't recommend it enough. It's long, but it's great. I can't wait for the tiger one. Was it two plus hours?

I don't even remember. I think it was like two hours and 25 minutes or something like that. Okay. Yeah, it's a great, I mean, it's a great watch. It's also a great story. It's, yeah, it's incredible. Yeah. But I'm not the type of parenting.

You think we'll ever get a Tiger Woods one, like the whole story with Earl? being casted is no really no because i like in terms of the any more access to tiger than we've currently got no like that's what it would require right because i feel like armicataean and them did like as in-depth as you could without having tiger woods on your side now that would be that that would have been a fucking fantastic movie though the armican book i think what would you have needed like richard is a person that wants credit i think that earl was probably that way too where if earl was still alive, we'd have a better chance of it because he might push it to take credit and document kind of the success of Tiger. But with him gone, there's no way Tiger is going to open up,

you know, a can of worms of like his, you know, upbringing, his childhood, what he went through. I think what he's shared today, I don't think we're going to get too much more. I don't think. I can see in 20 years, I'm sitting down watching TV and all of a sudden, whatever programs at that point, Netflix 2.0, whatever's going to be. will be like the woods is coming out in summer of 2047 and it's just maybe you won't believe but similar to the telling stories it won't be like factual from the people like it will just be you know a documentary like about the book and trying to piece together the stories rather than like truly from their mouth documentary

similar to what you're the critiques that you're giving king richard where like it would have to come from tiger and you're not going to get the real real version that everybody wants it's just not. Right. That's what I'm saying. Okay, we want that in book and documentary form. I just want the movie. I want everything I've ever heard, everything I've ever read. I want to see on the silver screen. I want to see it. I want to see it. I want Tiger's story to be the greatest game ever played. Like make it a fluff piece. Make it him winning the 2019 Masters and have someone that looks exactly like Tiger Woods be the actor and Charlie and like him driving to the golf course. Like make up whatever you want to make up. I want a movie that makes $100 billion at the box office

of Tiger Woods's amazing story and it come out on Disney Plus and we all go fucking crazy. There honestly might be too much material. Like the material is still being written. I know. Like it's like if it had ended to the 2019 Masters,

then maybe you have a movie that you can make. Now I just feel like there's, even with that, there's still just so much stuff. I went back last week and was watching the HBO Tiger docu series again based on the book. And it's awkward watching that

as it starts to wrap up because you're like, there's so much that they didn't get to include in this. And it came out fucking two years ago. Like, there's so much that they missed that they weren't able. And even in the, in the HBO version, they were actually able to add Tiger winning the masters in 2019 and stuff. But in the book, like, when you read this book that they spent five years on and how comprehensive we went through the list of how many hours,

hundreds of hours of golf footage they watch, books that they read, everything they could come up with and the book ends with like it looks like Tiger might try to reemerge on the PGA tour and there's some promising that and like a year after the book comes out he wins the fucking masters it's like

and then after that year after that he gets to the car accident almost dies and then he had the tie like it's like they missed half the story I will say that part of my takeaway from this weekend at the PNC just I kept having the thought that like it just never ends the interesting things that happened to this guy never

ever end. Like, we think the 29th Dean Masters was going to be the end. Then the car crash happens. Now he's doing this other comeback. And now he's got this son who might grab the torch and sprint away with it. We don't know yet, but it could happen. Like, it just never ever, he never stops being interesting. Like, I don't know. I wonder if he realized that about himself. I'm sure that he does. I wonder in what way. But at a certain point, he's got to think like, my life has, it has no dull points. It has, it never ever stops being interesting to the outside public. That either drives him crazy or he doesn't realize it or whatever, but like the Tiger Woods saga, it just keeps on going. And it's never going to stop. He's done enough in his life where in a thousand years he could have a

religion based off of him. There's enough. Let's put, if Tiger Woods, if Tiger Woods did what he did and there was no phones or cameras, like almost like zero AD or whatever, like. Like, like when Jesus was around, if there were no phones and cameras and there was just these transcriptions of like what Tiger has accomplished in his life, he would be Jesus. And I know that might be a controversial like thing to say. I know like, I don't know. Like I don't know if that's like a bad thing to say. I know John Lennon got in a lot of trouble about that when he compared himself to,

he said he was bigger than Jesus in the 1964. I think he's like, I'm bigger than Jesus Christ and like everyone burned. Beatles records in the streets. Do you think that's going to happen to us? Well, my point is like, I think that... People burning their iPhones while listening to the Foreplay podcast. Listen very carefully. You good for Apple.

Anyone that's going to get mad at this, you're weird. And number two, listen to what I'm saying very carefully. If Tiger Woods had existed in a world, which does not exist, where he was accomplishing all of these things that we know and love about Tiger Woods, the stories, the comebacks, the triumph. And we had no way of documenting it, except for a couple of guys writing. it into some scrolls. Within a thousand years, there would be

a church of this guy. They'd think that he had some sort of godlike power. I mean, you think back to like these early Roman days and all the stuff that people like glorified these gods for, they were super human types of people, especially like the athletes in ancient Greece. Tiger

Woods is a fucking god amongst men. He is. He is what humans can consider gods. Like what else? How much higher can you get. It's sort of Bobby Jones, right? Like Bobby Jones, like he, he was just at the time. Yeah, there's some photos and there's like some black and white footage of some stuff here and there. But he's become, in the golf world, a godlike figure with Augusta National, right? He's like a,

he's like a spirit that like built Augusta National. Right. And he gets talked about, you know, all week long during every master's. And it's sort of, you're right. Like, if there were just a bunch of interviews with them and like normal footage, it probably wouldn't be that way. Yeah, there's Bobby and I'll just swing it away and win in turn of it. Bro, bro. It's the Babe Ruth effect too. It's a Babe Ruth effect. You just have these like, you have these titles in these old newspapers like,

Babe Ruth did it again. It's like who the fuck was this guy? But think about it this way. There has been a lot of coverage of Tiger Woods. A lot of media, social media has been birth since this, since a couple of comebacks ago. And we still, with all that knowledge, refer to him as a God. So we crave more.

We crave more, dude. We know more about Tiger Woods in his life than anyone will ever know about any of our lives for the rest of our lives combined. And we still crave more. Right. We crave more. And we refer to him as a deity pretty regularly. We're like, we're like, we're pretty sure this guy's a God. I changed every part of my weekend plan to sit down and watch him play in a meaningless golf tournament with his son in December because he is Tiger fucking Woods.

And think about like a month ago, we were on the middle of an eight-month silence where we didn't know anything about Tiger Woods. We had no clue if he was going to ever be in public again. Is he going to do an interview again? Is he going to? And then he just out of the clouds, like the godlike figure that he is, he just posted a three-second video of his golf swing. And since that moment, it's changed our lives. It's really ramped up really quickly. To the point.

A finite amount of people that have made an impact on the planet. and he's one of them. You know what I mean? There's billions of people in the world, constantly being born and dying. And he's just one of like a speck of people that have gotten so famous and so, so, like, influential.

It's hard to compute the numbers of how many people, right, and deliver. But like, because of his delivery, he is who he is, right? So it's like, there's only three or four people in all sport that you can even, compare him to. Right. Think about in the last 100 years how many just generally professional athletes there have been. Just in all sports across all of them. And how many do you remember?

You remember Ali. You remember MJ. You remember Tiger. That's really pretty much. Babe Ruth is another one. So you got four guys over the past hundred years in every professional sport. Maradona. Should we get some love to the soccer? You can. I don't know as much about him as the other four. But like Wayne Graski, maybe. There's no way we're getting the double digits. You know what I mean? There's no way. So all those, however many people have played all these professional sports since that time, there's a handful of people that we remember. And Tiger is obviously one of them. It's not even just golf. It's like he was like just the way he transcended like just like race.

Like at the time when he was growing up all like the race stuff that was happening with golf too. He completely broke all those barriers. And like it's just like, dude, when he when he came back in two, And he just did a press conference for 10 minutes talking about his own scandal. They interrupted every channel and news channel in the world to like bring Tiger Woods in Panavira Beach reading off a piece of paper for 10 minutes. When he does anything, it takes over every local news, every ESPN show, obviously all the golf and all the golf coverage. It takes over Twitter. I mean, like today is NFL.

The only thing I saw on my feed was just Tiger and Charlie Woods all over the place. We talked about this with Pat Perez, and it's amazing thinking about how Tiger has not capitalized on owning. Tiger Woods should have a clothing line that the whole world wears. I mean, that hat that you're wearing is by far the coolest thing they've ever come out with, and that came out like, I feel like a year ago. But before that, he just hasn't capitalized on the fashion aspect of it, like Michael Jordan has. Michael Jordan is the example, and Tiger just didn't do that in golf. Tiger Woods is so famous that I would argue he's just as famous as like the fucking Pope. And at this point, he should have taken over lifestyle the way Michael Jordan did.

He didn't, though. Like, Michael Jordan took over lifestyle. Like, he's a lifestyle brand. Tiger Woods is not. How many times do you think his agent has pitched him this and been like, dude, come on, man. Like, there is literally a $100 million revenue stream like tomorrow. Amnually. I like, I struggle with the.

I struggle with trying to figure out, like, did he become Tiger Woods because of his relationship with Nike? Like, was it all part of the one package where, like, it never made sense for him to then go on and do his own thing? Like, he is just Nike. Like, Tiger Woods, his brand was essentially Nike. No, but you can argue that same thing with Jordan, right? Jordan, Nike, and then he just becomes this other pillar next to Nike and they go up. Yeah. To be fair, Tiger Woods was making a hundred to $120 million a year. He wasn't struggling. No, I don't think he ever.

The one thing that they didn't precisely capitalize on, which I don't know that you even can, is basically we're comparing it to the most successful, like, brand in the history of earth, which is Jordan shoes and Jordan, which again is like, Tiger's done pretty fucking good, but there's not one lasting like Tiger thing where they're going to drop a bunch of new versions of tiger's shoes every year and tiger's going to make a hundred million dollars like and you know if he's not as active as he is with brands and such he's not going to make anywhere near what jordan's been making in the 20 years since he's not playing all i'm saying is that he's one of the most famous people that's ever walked this earth and he didn't take he doesn't have

the lifestyle impact that he could have by being one of the most famous people on the planet like michael jordan is also one of the most famous people and successful athletes on the planet and he will live on forever in this other world. Why are you laughing? It's funny to hear you make that case while you're wearing his shirt and his hat and everything that goes along with Tiger Woods. I understand what you're saying. It's a good point because like no one knows like where to get this thing and this hat wasn't

even made by his company. It's like, but you were just, it was so funny. You looking at the camera being like, he has done nothing that is going to last in the fashion world forever. He just hasn't. And I know what you're saying. It's not just fashion. It's like we don't wait like we don't hit Tiger Woods clubs.

Like it like for the most. famous golfer of all time. He doesn't have like his things that we all as fans of the sport and fans of golfers. Like this is like, like it's a joke. You know what I mean? Like no one wears red and black on the golf course when they play. So it's like there's nothing that they do.

I don't know how to get through. Frankie, I want to say that I agree with you. It was just a very funny visual. What you're saying is right. What you're saying is right. We should have like the Tiger Woods 30, which is a driver that like after all these years like 30. You know what I mean?

Like we all should be. using the tiger wood like the wood like a three wood or something and it should have been that forever because he's the greatest of all time and we all would have bought it and it would have been the best club ever is my you know what I'm with you I'm totally with you we all agree with that we all agree with that yep but it's just very funny watching you say it wearing what you're wearing well he's iconic there's no doubt he's him being him I'll just I'll forever try and copy him I wonder if he just if it just comes down to that he had no interest in that he was just like I you know Nike drops off a brink truck to my house every year.

I don't need to, I don't need to be making my own shoes and my own hats and my own clubs. I would actually be a very interesting question to ask him. I would love to ask him that question if we ever got to hear of him. Like, do you regret or not regret, like did you ever think about releasing your own line and dominating golf in that aspect where every kid for Christmas

wanted the Tiger Woods new driver? Just like for the video game. He dominated the video game. He did that great. He did. But like they kind of did. Like he, they were, like, people were using, Saskwatch drivers and they were using shit because Tiger Woods did it.

Now, it might have been that like, Nike just didn't come up with it. Like the, you know, it's hard to develop just the best club in the world. But like he was also when he was using those things, he was the best player that's ever existed. So like. The Sasquatch. It wasn't like the Jordan 3s. Like it wasn't, you know what I mean? It was the fucking Sasquatch.

Which again, it's hard to compare it to like the most successful brand ever. It's not though because they're both very, very comparable. Like you're saying like for us to compare like, for play merch would be very hard to compare it to Jordan, but he's fucking Tiger Woods. He could have released a penny with his finger out with his with his face on it. We would have bought it. I think, yeah, I think the bottom line is that there's a very, very, very small number of people who have that opportunity.

Michael was one of them. Tiger certainly seems like another one. One guy decided I'm going to become the biggest and most successful brand of all time. And we don't really know the reason why Tiger decided not to or if it was, I doubt it was even a conscious decision like that. It was just like, it just didn't happen. Just didn't happen. I guess that's what I'm saying.

It's not that you decided not to. I think maybe it just didn't take off properly or whatever. But like they were doing it. Like you said with video games with clothes, with his logo. Like his logo hasn't taken off like the Jordan logo, but it's on shit. Like, yeah, it's nothing though. It's like no one, you don't walk around and see the Tiger Woods logo in places. You know, but I don't think you can equate that to they chose not to do it.

Like I think they just maybe didn't do it. That's what, no, but that what you're both saying is that. That's what makes it a good question for Tiger. If he would be very interesting to hear his thoughts on. for sure. I would love to have the Woods 37 driver. Like, yeah, the 37th fucking edition of his new wood. And it would have been the greatest thing of all time.

And we all would have tried to swing like them and done all this stuff. It would have been incredible. Instead, whatever. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer, but thinking about baseball doesn't always work. They do take shots of baseball when they put the copy, when they give us the copy. So I'm just reading. Folks at Roman and online mental health command, I don't know why they chose baseball. Why do you think they didn't choose something else?

Dull boring long game I like baseball as much as an ex-guy But I would say it is probably the most Boring of the major sport The regular season baseball is terrible Playoff baseball is incredible That's true Love baseball live and breathe baseball

Grew up playing baseball It's my whole life But the fact that you can't Lose The fact that you can't like lose the game While you're up Is always why it's been more boring Right like if you're up in the game

And you're up at bat someone can just now go to the bathroom and make food because they know that your team's never going to lose the score. You can't take runs off the board and the other team can't score when they're on defense. So I've always found that to be the most boring part of the sport where it's like, all right, the Yankees are up at bat right now. I can go like grab dinner.

I know when I come back they're still going to be winning. It's also at one point somebody described baseball to me in that it's the only sport where the defense controls the ball. And they can't score. Right. Like in every other sport, the offense controls the ball. Can't turn it. over. Nope. You can't stop watching a hockey game because at any moment,

Scotty Mayfield's going to break his stick and they're going to come on a fucking two-on-one rush and score right in your face, which happened tonight. Like, in baseball, you can have a pick six at any moment. Pick six, soccer, the other way around. Basketball, you have to watch every single shot. I mean, you probably don't because the end of the game's always tight anyway. But my point was, baseball, if you're up 3-1, the Yankees have their 7-9 guys coming up, I'm going to eat another pork roll with Lurch. I mean, what's going to happen?

They're going to just, the next inning is just going to be 3-1 again because they can, you You know what I mean? Again, we're just going to... We all like baseball. Oh, we do. We love it. It is probably the most boring of the major sports. Well, until it's not.

It's not a rousing sport. Until it's electric. It's electric once it is, though. Romano, we're going to walk up. Postseason baseball is like up there with the best sport. Like, I think postseason hockey won. Postseason baseball is too for me. Correct.

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Wow. What a week. What are we again? I would say, you know, if you go back two months and you were to tell us we are where we are right now one month, how long it's been since you posted that video, and you were to tell us we are where we are right now, I don't think we'd honestly believe it. Yeah. We're doing backflips.

In his best, the most positive Tiger Woods guys in the world, I still don't think we would have believed that he would play in the P&C that it goes. They finished solo second. Tiger almost got his leg amputated and his kid that's playing with him is 12 years old. And they finish solo second in that tournament. So the whole thing is unimaginable. It's super cool. The best part about all of it is the future. All right.

We've got a ton to look forward to knowing that we're going to have Tiger Woods teened it up again. that he's clearly going to be able to do and chase at least some semblance of a golf game again is so fucking cool the fact that Charlie is into golf as he is and seems to handle the pressure and the big moments and have that good of a golf swing and make puts. It's all really, really cool. It gives us a fantastic future to look forward to. I think that's all I got. This is the last time we're speaking to people before Christmas because we have to leave him off with some sort of holiday cheer.

We wanted to go all in on Christmas. I hope everyone did their part this year. I know I tried my hardest. I went and saw the tree at Rockefeller Center. I did Christmas things. I made Christmas cookies. I went to see Christmas this year, Frankie? Are you not a list of good list?

I'm naughty. I'm naughty. I'm notty. I'm naughty. You know how naughty I am? I couldn't watch the clip that we put out the other day on Twitter of me. I got to stop on the golf course. That was too much.

Shout out to our fucking editors. Like, of all the things we do, I was talking about my mushroom penis. Like, it was just too much. A lot of the things that were said in that highlight. I can't believe we have like sponsors. I got my own little candy jar for Christmas. That's how I saw a Christmas concert at UBS called the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

I used to go with my parents back in the day with my fiance, her family. Talk about the Christmas spirit, like fake snow coming down from the ceilings. And it's a rock Christmas concert. You ever hear one of these things? No. Dun- dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. I heard the music, yeah. Dun-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-and.

And you're like, holy shit. The fire's coming up. Like, it was nuts, man. And I got into the Christmas spirit a little bit. I will say in New York specifically, we have not had our fair share of Christmas weather. And that really brings down the Christmas spirit. It's been way too hot, way too warm, 62 degrees on a Tuesday walking through the city. A week ago, it was 74 degrees in Cedar Rapids.

It was like, what's happening? I don't know what the reasoning. And you know what's going to happen? The Christmas time is going to come right by us. And then we're going to get face fucked by January and February. It's just classic northeast. bullshit of being like we didn't get our Christmas time and now we have the craziest snowstorms ever in February. Who the hell wants a snowstorm in February? Give me all the snow on Christmas.

Merry Christmas to everybody. I hope that you all have been naughty in your own ways. It's the best time to be naughty. Snuggle up. Get all crazy. Figure it out. Hug your loved ones. You're such a weird. You're such a weird guy. It's going to be a great time to open presents and wrap presents. Who tells people to be naughty at Christmas? Like what do you? Like be your own, like be not. Like be naughty, you know, like, you know, just shout out Roman right there. I mean, Franks. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's see some. Yeah. Let's see some August baby. Let's see some August baby. Let's see some August baby. Yeah. Yeah.

There you go. And let's just have a great time. I just can't wait for that day, uh, you know, and, and I love Christmas. I fucking love Christmas Eve. We do a thing of Porelli's. We get all the, um, the needy families in the area. We, they come in, they grab food. It used to be they, they come for dinner.

And I just, only say it's because I want to shout my dad. He doesn't, he doesn't talk about it with anyone until someone figures out he's doing it. The guy shows up every Christmas morning while we're all sitting down opening presents and he opens up the restaurant for like 300 families to come and they have presents with the local government will come in. They'll buy presents for the kids. It's like the most rewarding thing to see people that actually like need something on Christmas. It's like, it's so like humbling and it's amazing feeling. Now with COVID, they come and pick up food in the parking lot and then drive them home to their houses. So it's a little safer. But just makes you feel

good around this time when like everyone's so fucking like we're also selfish in our own right and like we all want like the most shiny amazing things and like all these great things are happening to us I just like to sometimes take a step back and be like man there's a lot of people out there that won't have a great Christmas and I hope that things can happen that they can find some holiday cheer in this time naughty you want them to be naughty no some Christmas cheer yeah you know like a little Christmas cheer pick people up if you can pick people up and give people a smile when you can give people a smile It's the only week I'll say this. And then back in January, you can go fuck yourself.

Okay, nice. That was really nice. Kind of look. Merry Christmas. Thanks everybody for listening. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Tiger Woods and Charlie Woods, great week.

The Daily's, congratulations to them. We are doing one show this week. We'll be back after Christmas for next week. We've got the Arizona Bowl. We got the Barstall Classic Pioneers Championship video is coming out. I believe this Thursday, which is December 23rd on our YouTube page. Go check out the band. videos if you have not. Have a great Christmas. Have a great holiday no matter what you celebrate.

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