Fore Play - "This match will be the most important event of my entire life."

Episode Date: August 21, 2018

The guys dissect all that transpired last week and over the weekend between Fore Play and Ryan Whitney. A match the likes of which the golf world has never seen is materializing before our very eyes. It's Riggs vs Ryan Whitney 2018 with Frankie Borrelli on the Fore Play bag and BizNasty on the Spittin' Chiclets bag. The details are still being ironed out, but there's plenty of fodder to talk about. We also discuss a golfer biting off another golfer's finger, the upcoming FedEx Cup Playoffs, the Ryder Cup, and Kip Henley firing off PHENOMENAL tweets defending Tiger Woods!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Look, a lot of storylines going on with the 4Play Boys. Over the last week we had, last week we had two just all-time episodes. Of course, we had the post-PGA championship first that we put up on Tuesday, which had our guy Taylor Ford on, who's on the bag for Stuart Sink, talking all about being inside the ropes playing with Tiger Woods in front. of them on Sunday. I relived a lot of the experience being on the grounds, being inside the ropes as well with Tiger.

Then all shit hit the fan. We had Big Cat on here. Trent Daddy was not taking any of his bullshit. Yep. It's been quite a week for me. How did Big Cat's following respond to your encounter with him? They didn't love it, which I sort of expected. Yep.

But, you know, Big Cat and I have since had a behind closed doors chat about the things that happened. Okay, how'd that go? It went well. I will say that I won't take back anything that I said, but I do wish the AWLs would stop yelling at me and my mentions. Yeah, that would be ideal. I would assume that they're coming at you. Yeah, which is probably a dumpster fire. A little bit, but like, I mean, what can I, that's kind of what I expected going after a guy like Big Cat for his trolling.

And like I said, him and I have since had a little bit of a chat and we are on, I will say, better terms. Okay. So how do we feel about our entire chat with Big Cat? You know, we, he's been trolling Tiger fans for several years now, while now trying to spin it, of course, into the fact that he is a Tiger fan. I don't know if he even knows if he believes he's a Tiger fan. You know, I really just don't know. Huge shout out to Frankie Borelli for sniffing out his attempt with the wager.

Yep. That was big. It was a moment where I felt like I went inside his brain, saw his future before even he did. And then I just let him know what he wasn't going to do. That really is a tough thing to do because in the moment, there's, you know, emotions are high, adrenaline's running. You don't really, it's hard to zoom out on the conversation. And for you to be like, oh, he's doing this so he can be like, have the,

being in the driver's seat, it was very smart. Yeah, because he was just going to say, oh, Tiger won a major. Who's the only one that placed the bed on him? Right. And you guys didn't have enough, you know, I mean, it was as clear as day to me. And I needed you and Riggs to kind of go at him and I was just staring at him. I wasn't saying a word. I was just, I was looking at him.

in his eyes. I saw something in there. I'm like, something's not right. And, you know, that's huge because, look, I do believe in there are certain players that I have said I disliked and then I changed my opinion on them. But that is clearly not what this is. And I think that we all kind of sniffed that out. And what people have to realize is that more than any other figure in sports over the last 15 years, Tiger

is very polarizing, especially the last 10 years. He's because he draws, he single-handedly draws more attention than the other athlete does. And when he does, everything gets ramped up. All of the chatter about him gets ramped up. All the opinions about him get ramped up. All the takes get ramped up. And so when we've been on, for the last three or four years now, we've been on the wrong side of history, basically, defending Tiger. He's going to be back.

You guys don't understand. He's been doubted so many times and delivered. That's why he is who he is. And you've got the DUI and the videos and the main. making fun of them and the laughing and them trying to put us on the spot in all of those moments and say like, are you guys willing to admit now that Tiger Woods will never be back? And we said, no, we believe in it. You guys don't fucking get it.

He does not go away. He always accomplishes the unaccomplishable. That is just what he fucking does. We believe we're not bullshitting you. And we've said that and meant that for years now. And we've taken so much fucking heat. So you don't get to just jump on our bandwagon now that things are going way. well, FD a shit on us when they weren't going well.

So we obviously hash that out. Trent Daddy was very passionate. As passionate as I've ever seen you, Trin. Yeah, that's probably the most passionate I've been in my five years of Barstool or four and a half years or whatever it's been. I never really felt that way and I decided to let it out. And, you know, it felt good, honestly. You didn't back down. It felt very therapeutic.

You know, you were like Pam in the office when she decides to. When I run across the coals? Yep. You ran across the coals at the hour. You did run across the coals. It felt amazing. And, I mean, again, the backlash, you go out of a guy, you know, someone who is as popular as Big Cat, and he is popular for a reason. He's a very funny guy.

But I just felt like we needed that in the room at the time. Was like, we've gone along with it before we've had him on the show. And, you know, we've gone along with his trolling a little bit. And I just wanted to be the one voice in the room. It was almost like a hard reset. Like, I want you to know that we don't like this. And I think it turned out pretty well. You stood your ground.

Yeah. There's no doubt about that. I love that. Pam. You, Pam. I'm okay being Pam I just watched an episode I said you know

Michael Scott She goes Pam Pam Pam Pam And she's trying to get a word in I just laugh Every time

That's the best fucking show Of all time It's just yelling Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam But Michael He's like

Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam You can't say Another word That's kind of like What you were too You weren't letting him

Get his words in Either You were just like You were every single Office character All Bitmixing You were Stanley You just

You just your shit Yeah Like did I stutter Yeah That was my Stanley Did I stutter money? I mean, wow, man, did you come out of your shell on that one at Big Cat? My God.

Yeah. He cowered it. He, like, out into a corner. He was like, oh, shit. I had a couple, I got to yell that right now. I had a couple people sent, not people that work here, but a couple people sent me the picture that we tweeted out for money of the account. He looks small. He looks small.

He did. He's sitting over there and we are all, like, coming over the top of them, and he looks very small. The optics, we need those, you know, Big Cat, like he said. He's a big guy. He's got a big following, all of that. So when we can make him look small and corner him and triple team him basically over Tiger, it felt The other major storyline, of course, was Ryan Whitney. That all started on that same show.

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Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. So, we got into it with Ryan Whitney. That began on this year show. Yes, it did. It began right here. And essentially, you know, we were debating the whole and one thing. It's amazing that this whole-in-one versus 10 albatrosses thing led to this.

Yeah. But here we are. So we started, of course, with a debate on last week's show on Thursday we had wit on we called him a dumbass for saying that 10 albatross he would rather have than one whole on one now a lot of people too to people I hate when people pick like little nuggets of this thing and then focus on that they're like I can't believe you idiots think that one whole on one is more impressive than 10 albatron that's very different says that nobody is saying that what we are saying was very clear there's a

reason that ryan Whitney needs 10 albatrosses to compare to one whole on one because the novelty of the whole and one is so much different. When he came back at me with his little quip, I don't need free cars, rigs, Google me. The whole point wasn't that you need free cars. The whole point was that when you go to play a golf course, you go play in a scramble or something, they're not like, oh, on this par five, if you get an albatross, you win a free car. They're like, if you get a hole in one on one on this part three, you win a free car. Right.

They do that on PGA tour events and all that because the novelty surrounding a whole on one is so much different. It's a question. It's when you might meet someone, if you get randomly matched up with another crew, they'll probably ask you during your force. I'm like, oh, do you have a hole in one? They don't ask you like, oh, do you have an albatross? Do you have 10 albatrosses? If you start walking around saying how many albatrosses you have,

you're almost like a hard-o asshole. You're an asshole. Like, hey, how's it going? My name's Frank. Yeah, I have 10 albatrosses. I don't give a fuck. Cool, Frank. Right, exactly.

That's just what it is. We understand that it's more impressive. Duh, everybody knows that. Yeah. But it's just different. The whole-on-one is a thing. It's unlike anything else really in sports. Nobody would be like, do you have a half-court shot?

rather have. And we're not saying, like, what would you rather be able to accomplish? Like, I'd rather be able to hit 10 albatrosses than one hole and run, because that means I'm hitting fucking unreal shots on a consistent basis. Like, you don't play that much, I don't play that much golf. I'm hitting fucking 10 albatrosses. That means I'm sinking shit from all over the golf course. You're an insane long iron, buddy. Right. Yeah, yeah, I'm just hitting three woods that are bouncing off trees and going in the hole. Like, that's cool. But what would I rather have and, like, like, you said, be able to talk to everyone and hang something up on my window, on my wall. Yeah, it's a whole thing we like to call cultural capital

Where you can use it when you're out talking to people about it Saying you have a whole and one is much more impressive In a conversation than it is to say anything about You just say cultural capital? I don't know I just shook my head like correct You know what that? It's like what the fuck is it? I know I get it but that's the fact you just drop that like we're fucking in an economy class right I think I've used it a couple times before and maybe not on the spot

Yeah cultural capital things you can use out there in the world I never heard their term and I just shook my head like that's right Yeah no Frankie was all in like yeah he's right he's right Right, that is cultural capital. Yeah, that's right. Jesus Christ. Cultural capital. I like that.

Microeconomics. People can feel free to use it. I would argue, you're right. You get way more cultural capital out of a whole and one than you do out of some albatrosses. That's really the whole point of it. Wow. Shit. So then this all divules into, you know, people are tweeting at us after the show, as they always do.

Love you guys getting into it with Whitney. One guy tweets at us. I need Ryan Whitney versus breaks barstle. A week after Tiger versus Phil, $10,000 challenge. or 10K for any whole on ones or Albies and I just simply quote tweeted it and said, I accept thoughts Ryan Whitney, question mark.

Now he's out there painting it like I came out and with this vicious challenge and all that. That's an invitation. I just accepted an invitation. Correct. And then said thoughts Ryan Whitney. So he's now, he gets into it with me which is great. I love sucking that fucking clown in. We're

bickering back and forth. He's like any time, any amount. Blows up into this whole thing. Largely around strokes involved. Now, there's a couple different things here. One that I would have immediately accepted either strokes or odds, which is essentially what we've settled on. We've settled on my $3,000 versus Ryan Whitney's $5,000.

That makes a lot of sense. Number one, he is technically a 1.8 handicap. I'm a 5.1 handicap. Now, I get that those are like close enough that it's not outside the realm of possibility for me to beat him. But those are also handicaps, that's over a three-stroke difference. There's a reason you get to that number because that's based off your best 10 of your last 20 rounds as the handicapped system works. So, statistically, he's just better than I am by a couple strokes.

So no one would go into, right? You wouldn't go to like the Vegas table and just like happily put down three or five grand of your money knowing that you're like a 60 or 70% underdog. You just wouldn't do that. Right. So explain to me what people say to you when you are like, this system is in place for this exact reason because I think you are correct. Their response is that you challenged him and then backed off and begged for strokes, which is why I went with the semantics at the beginning, which is not what happened. Someone presented a challenge.

Basically, I'd love to see Whitney versus Riggs. I said I accept. And then I would just figured at that point once you both accept it, it would be understandable that since there's a difference in handicap, you would use the fucking system in place that everybody uses. And a bunch of people have sent me screenshots of Whitney playing and all these tournaments at Walliston and his partner and these guys, they get strokes in tournaments that there's thousands of dollars on the table because of Calcutta's and all of that. So it's very understandable.

Now, what we have settled on, I think, is very fair, which is an odds system. And again, we get these idiots online that are tweeting at us like, well, I don't see when two pros play against each other, they're not getting strokes. No, but if you go to bet on that head-to-head match, there are odds. Correct. Literally, there are odds, or you can even find spreads. Right. Like, people are like, if DJ is playing against, like, Brantznetter in a match,

that's not just going to be straight-up odds. There's going to be, you know, DJ might be minus 170 or something, or there might be you could even find like a one and a half stroke spread. You can find those things. So, anyways, we went back and forth. It got as is, which is what I love about Ryan Whitney is that he doesn't back down. No. He does not just like let things go. He just comes over the top every time.

And he's one of the meanest people I've ever encountered, but he also does it in like just that sports funny fashion. You know he doesn't hate you, but you know he's going to fucking bury you. He's trying to bury you. And he doesn't care. But he also, like you said, he's a hockey guy. Like, it's all fun in games. So, and it's, like, every time I tweet about him or chirp him on Twitter, he comes back with, like, 10 tweets at me and, like, retweet and shit. When I talk about him on the radio, he calls in and just goes crazy and roast me.

When I blog about him, he fucking finds a way to blog and, like, buries me on the blog. Didn't even know he had a username on the blog. No idea he even knew what that was or, like, what the dad was. dashboard was. And then he wrote, and I will say it was a very mean blog. Incredibly. It was incredibly mean. He buried me. Rings, you had to see the reaction across the office. I mean, there was a buzz. I think everyone was reading it along, and you just heard some people, like, who were faster readers or slower readers. Some people were making, like, the ooze and the odds at different

points. We're like, oh. Just one of those issues. Oh, just very mean. He brought up your hockey, you know, at Harvard. He brought up many things. Many things. It was a well-written blog. Now, let me say this. He didn't. The other people. are like you're dead he didn't say anything that I don't get made fun of for pretty much every day

right so or that you're open about yourself like I didn't play in the NHL right when he was a better hockey player than I was yeah I'm not like a male model I understand that all these things so he's burying me for all this stuff I have I have openly

talked about like my Harvard hockey career in fact two years ago Dave wrote a blog just like roasting me about my Harvard hockey career like the first time I totally understand those things now when you put it all into a blog and it's Ryan Whitney who's like a fucking millionaire who did

play in the NHL who we've got a golf match challenge he's the favorite in the golf match you throw all those things in together and the fact the shocking value that he's fucking blogging like Ryan Whitney appears on the blog that it was so stunning that happened and that it was laugh out loud funny it was tough it was tough and you factor in too I was in fucking Saratoga for the first time in my life at a buddy's trip huge golf trip the golf weekend classic which we'll talk about which is the worst name ever that we've talked about last year yep I fucking get to the track. I woke up, wrote a couple blogs. One of them, like I churped Whitney for being dumbass. Put a couple blogs up. Work till like one o'clock. Go to the track with the boys.

Second I get there, people just start texting me like, are you alive? Like, what is happening? That's such a bad feeling. Man, I don't have my laptop. I'm standing in the track with my phone. You said it too. I was like, this is the one day Riggs' his guard was down. Like, he just hit you and your fucking hands right, your fucking hips. And he just took an uppercut, right? It's almost like Whitney had a tracker on you and it was like all right when rigs gets to the golf course on friday i'm going to put this blog i wasn't on the golf course i was at the track oh oh oh oh was it saratoga at the race track um which my again my first time there i just got in a transfusion it's like friday afternoon again i'd gotten some work done i was we had done the sean spicer interview that had gone up that morning so i was

like people will be chatting about the spicer interview how great of a job i did this is going to be a lovely friday i like i said i like made sure i got on my work done we had a great couple podcast. What a great week. And then I'm just, like Frankie said, my arms are tied behind my back. And I was just getting fed in the face. It's just slug you when I was supposed to be hanging out. I have a phone of my friends. So my buddies are like, it's a 24 guy rider cup golf trip. So a lot of these guys, it's like a huge reunion. Haven't seen each other in a long time. The guys are coming up to me. They're like, Riggs, like, you're on your phone just the whole time what's going on. I'm like, you don't understand what's happening right now.

Everybody's tweeting at me. Now, I did obviously point out the fact that Davis said on radio many, many times that Ryan Whitney is a millionaire, a retired millionaire professional hockey player who has no interest in having like a full-time blogger job. He's tried to hire him, tried to get him to be in the mix. I got him in the mix. He was as in the mix as he's ever been. It was a good spin zone. He was blogging.

It's a spin zone, but it was a good one, though. It's a big, it's a spin zone, but it's a good one. He's driving pay-per-view. We're going to probably pay-per-view this. People are jacked up. He's in the mud. He's in the mud. I dragged him into my world.

He has no business being in my world. He wrote a whole blog detailing. Ryan Whitney, up to this point in my life, you have dominated my version of my life. Understand that. You're better hockey. You got all this money. Good for you. What are you doing coming down into my world?

I dragged him down him. Now that we're in here, it can be a little bit more of a fair fight. I've got this opportunity to take down this guy who clearly painted that like it would be a bigger loss for him than it would be for me, professional athlete, lower handicap, all this chirping. There's a chance to take him down. Frankie is hopefully, I don't, can you be on my bag or is they going to make you like have to film the whole thing? Oh, I'm on your bag. He'll be on. I mean, how can they put me on?

How can they make me film it? So you're going to be on the bag? I'm on the bag. Because he hates Whitney just as much, probably more than you do. You've been to do it with Whitney forever. I mean, the combination of me and you against Whitney, I mean, I know he has biz. I mean, he's got the whole professional, he's got the whole professional athlete storyline going on their bag.

And on our side, it's just like anti- Whitney bag. Like, that's just like what our story is. You're all of your anti-Wittany, but you're also underdog. What you're saying where they've got all the athletes, you guys, everybody should be ruined for you guys. We're also the underdog amateurs. We're the France as we met. That's basically what we are.

And I'm the little kid. Exactly. I'm going to stay all those one-liners, like easy, peasy, lemon squeezy. You're going to be looking up kitchen appliances. You're going to have it ready to rock. The other thing I want you to know, Frankie, is the standard rate for caddy is 10%. So if we win. Let's fucking win this thing.

If we win this thing, you get $500 check. I'm in. Right. So it's a big day. It's going to be a big day. And we don't know where it is yet, but hopefully we can find a nice place, you know, a top course that we can all just like, we all know the holes to. And it'll be like a fun fucking experience. experience.

Yes. So he also, Whitney, you know, we're texting on the side, trying to figure out logistics and all that. He's like, why don't we play at Walliston or Old Sandwich? I'm like, those are literally the two clubs that you belong to. I'm not playing your home courses. Right. That's such bullshit. So he was like, you know, he tried to play that game.

Then I tried to get him like, we've got to do that page black. He's like, you've played there like five times. I've never played there. So now we're trying to get more to even. He said it has to be a top 100 course. The black is the best option for me because, I mean, yeah, you've played there a bunch of times. But, like, who doesn't know that course? especially Whitney.

Whitney knows every single turn. That's what I said. Green knows every single T-box. He knows what it looks like. I mean, he could probably play leading up to it. He can play around. Like, it's not that hard to get onto the golf course. So, I mean, I think that's a no-brainer.

So we've got some logistics to figure out. We've got to come up with, obviously, the course is huge. We've got to come up with which course that is meets Ryan Whitney's standards will allow us to come film. We're going to have quite the production, I'm sure, as is tradition. I believe Dave floated the idea that they'll be like. like a pay-per-view that he'll be commenting, commentating.

We'll have several cameramen. I would love to, if there's any company out there that could help us get top tracer technology, I think we have to have top tracer technology because this is going to be,

I don't think that this can really work as like a filmed and edited thing. I really think it needs to be live. If this is a live event with Dave, Big Cat, you know, I'm sure other people will get in the mix or commentating. Biz is fucking on the back.

Biz is on the bag. Whitney's playing, Riggs is playing. I mean, you got to expect everyone in the company is going to be involved and hyping this thing up. This is going to be one of the biggest

live events we've done, aside from Rough and Routy. This is like an in-house live event. On a golf course. On a golf course. And if we have something like Top tracer and we can start, you know,

shaping the balls and seeing where they're going and it's a good viewer experience, I mean, for whoever joins in on us, like Top Tracer or whatever. Like, it's a no-brainer for them to get. It's no-brainer.

Yeah, to get in on one of the biggest videos we're going to do all year. And I think that it needs the top tracer. I think we have to have that technology because the people watch on the live view, I don't know where the ball's going. And it'll be since we're just not that good as we're not like professionals. You'll see tracers like you've never seen before.

Unbelievable. Like the top off a tee when some guys nervous or like a low duck hook or a big slice out of play, it's going to be laugh out funny. And if we don't get it live, we have to package it and just add our own. Because like you said, if you're watching that event, you need to see where the balls get. Well, it's like we watch normal golf and we're like, man, I wish everything had Tracer. running this is the same thing. But even in normal gop, they have fucking cameras that can follow the ball and they have

blimps and shit. Like, we're not going to have blimps. We're not going to have guys on like huge stanchions that are like following the ball with like incredible technology. We need like that one camera that just shows where the ball is. We're going to have fucking Buddha Ben running around. That's what we're going to happen. So it's not, that's just not going to be. For all we know, the way things have been going,

I'm going to be like on the bag and filming. It's going to be a fucking mess. I could totally see that. So we're working out the details on that. Anybody who's got any help, like I said, with courses that will It's huge. We have to be able to film. All these people reach it out. They're like, I'm a member at this club. You guys should do it here. I'm like, can we film there?

They're like, no. We need that. That's literally the whole point. Right. So, we're working all that out, Whitney. It's going to be, you know, we don't want to blow our load too early here. We've got to figure out all logistics, but it will happen. This is the biggest one-on-one, you know, Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Ryan Whitney Riggs.

It is also interesting in that, like, we don't play on camera in, like, in front of, like a lot of money and a lot of pride. Like that just doesn't happen. The nerves will be through the fucking... Imagine how nervous you get on a tee when like five people are watching you that are in the group behind you or something. And then magnify that. You've got two like amateur golfer guys in front of like with all this... It's going to be...

Whitney had a little bit of... Had a little bit of pressure on in the past couple of tournaments that he's joining. He's just fucking three jacks holes. He's hitting them out of bounds. He's made double on the 18th, he said, like to, from the middle of fairway to like miss the qualifying spot on this latest amity play. And you know as well as anybody. You put your swing on the internet. People will roast you in your mentions.

Now you're going to have a whole round against another guy. It's going to be something. I mean, you're talking, you get professional golfers that have won golf tournaments collapsing down the stretch and being like, I got super nervous, blah, blah, blah. Talking me and Whitney out there, it's going to be an absolute circus. It's going to be very fun. You know what else is very fun is grilling, and there's nothing, nothing that beats Omaha stakes.

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be talking with Witt. We'll get him, you know, back on. We'll figure out all those logistics as we get closer, but there's a lot of hype for this match. I would love for people to be able to bet on it themselves. I think that would be fun. Don't we do that for rough and rowdy? Yeah. One of the betting sites, I think like Bet DSI or something, they put odds up. I can't imagine that would be a problem.

It shouldn't be a problem. So stay tuned for that. That has become just a massive storyline that we're involved with. That will be a big production and hopefully we can make it all happen. We got to get into a golfer, has bitten another golfer's finger off. Right off. On the golf course. To the knuckle. To the knuckle! I didn't, I just read that part. That's insane. How do you even do that? You got to be some sort of fucked up to...

You gotta want to knock that thing off. Yeah. So there's, there's a lot going on with this because we had a stoolie reach out and message me who is apparently this is his home course, so he had like a little different side of the story than is being reported everywhere. the story goes like this. A man has bitten off another man's finger during a fight at a Massachusetts. Golf course. I'm like four lines ahead of you, and I'm reading this one word that's making me laugh every time I read it, but you can keep going. The station reports a 47-year-old man was arrested at the Souther's Marsh Golf Club in Plymouth Friday

after he apparently got into a fight with another golfer and bit off a part of his thumb. The station reports the victim's thumb had been bitten off to his knuckle, and he was transported to a local hospital for treatment. The incident happened around sunset. Is that what you're laughing? It's the last word. The attacker was arrested and charged with mayhem. Mayhem. I don't know what I understand why the incident happened around sunset.

Okay. He was charged with mayhem. I mean, that is mayhem. This guy's running around golf courses just biting people's fingers off. That's the perfect word for it. He's just causing mayhem. They're like, what did what happen? There's no like law number.

There's no like specific thing that he's just causing. did. He just caused mayhem. You would think that's assault, but if you bite someone's thumb off, no, it's mayhem. Imagine the judges looks at him in court and says, you, sir, have caused mayhem. Four years in the county jail. By the way, there's no way I'm letting someone bite my thumb off. Like, if someone gets a hold of your hand and bites your thumb off, that's on you. Oh, it's his thumb?

So it's his thumb all the way down to the knuckle. So it's, oh my God. Yeah, that's a bummer. So there was another thing that it was like the bitten off. finger has been put on ice, I saw on another report. So I got messages from the stool now who says the finger story from Souther's Marsh, my home course isn't exactly what it's made out to be. It wasn't just a four on four two foursomes going at it because it was originally reported

like the two foursoms just got into it with each other or fighting each other. One guy, been another guy's dumb off, end a story. He said eight guys were playing on one hole at the end of a scramble. They wouldn't let the guys behind them finish. words were exchanged, ended up in being a six-on-one fight. The guy who did the biting was getting his ass beat and a guy was fish-hooking him. Guy was fish-hooking him. He did what he had to do.

The guy says, figured I'd set the story mostly right before you guys hash it out on Foreplay. Love what you guys do. Viva, thank you. All right, so that makes more sense on how he got the finger in his mouth. He was defending himself. Yes. So according to this guy's counter story, it sounds like he's getting fined.

Fish hooked, just bites down, you know, rips the guy's thumb off, which has to be such a powerful bite to rip a guy's thumb. Because you got to break the bone, too. Oh, my God. And like it says, if this is what really happened, it's a six-on-one fight, biting someone's thumb-off is totally fair game. Six-on-one one, you bite somebody's thumb-off. How did this turn to do it? You bite whatever you can get a hold of. Okay, so the guy, so how did it become a six-on-one?

There's eight guys on a scramble. They're all playing on one hole. And this guy who got his finger or who bit the finger up. was behind them. It sounds like and they wouldn't like they're probably behind these guys forever yeah and they couldn't get through wouldn't finish where they're like

probably chirped a little bit he runs up on the next thing he knows it's like six on one gets fish hooked bites the guy's thumb off is this guy's story I don't you know Getting fished hook is about as disrespectful as it gets You don't want to be fish hooked You do not

Also dumb ass move to fish hook somebody because biting is like biting is the one thing you don't fuck with People can just shred you if you bite God can you met I don't even want to talk about it Being able to bite someone's finger off. You've got to go through the bone, man.

That's some fucked up shit. Said there was blood everywhere. Had to be. Blood all open the guy's mouth. I mean, that's... You want to talk about mayhem? Seeing the guy post, like, with the finger in his mouth and the blood all over his mouth, just like, who wants next? Like, I finally just got back.

Sixth-on-one? That's like six and five, whatever, nine-tenths. I mean, talk about the law nailing it. Like, what we just talked about is mayhem. That's just... That's exactly what that is. So the golf course can get pretty goddamn serious, man. Wild story out there.

Wild, wild, wild story. We also got to talk about Brant Snetiker, shooting 59 at the Wyndham. So I do, I'm very happy that he ended up winning because when you shoot a 59 and then you don't win, that's like, that's just tough. Right. That's a tough look. Yeah. But Brant Snetterker, it's so wild, right, how this happens, how guys just pop up out of the clouds. He shoots 59 and goes on to win.

This was, there was a little bit of drama late. We got OB ball on 18, which again, that's just another, from CT Pan was just another case of like, if this guy's hitting at OB on the 18th, like, what are me and Whitney going to do in front of the whole world when we're playing this? But Snedz, you know, he won the, he's obviously won the FedEx Cup so he can play. He was in the, he's in contention, you know, at the Masters a couple different years. He had the whole incident where he was like crying. He started crying again yesterday. He was crying a lot, and he had a great little chirp at Bubba Watson. He said, I guess I'm turning into Bubba Watson wanting to cry every two seconds.

What a fantastic quote. That just gives a little, that just gives a little peek into what the rest of the people on tour think of Bubba Watson, and they feel how we feel where it's like, hey, man, you cry just a little too much. Yeah, it was his first win since the 2016 Farmers Insurance. Ninth, just the ninth, 59 in tour history. and then he still had to go on. I mean, on Sunday yesterday, he shot a 65. So imagine, like, imagine you shoot a 59, and then, like, you still have to shoot a 65.

Right. To win on Sunday. That's insane. He had to play 18. Fentine 9's insane. Shot a 59 after he bogeed won. Which is just, it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy to get him.

He made an awesome putt, too, on the 18th hole to shoot 59, like, clearly knowing that he needed to shoot 59. So shout out to sneds. You know, he's one of the best putters out there. He was been through a bit of a tough stretch. He was injured, all that. It's always nice seeing guys come back. I feel like, too, when, like, you've gone through an injury, that's when all the emotion comes out.

Yeah. Because during those injuries, there's, like, dark times. Right. Like, I'm never going to be. This is a big win for him. Not winning since the 2016 Farmers Insurance. I mean, he's a big name, and he has some, like, big sponsors, and he's always, you know, he wants to be in the mix, and it's been a while since, you know.

I've always, my favorite thing I've always liked about, Snetterker, is how fast he plays. Right. Yep. So he plays, like, lightning fast. Yeah. He said his favorite player growing up was always Tom Watson, who played really fast. Kind of like no BS, one little wiggle in a quick little practice swing, and he just hits the ball immediately. So I've always liked that about Snataker.

Very cool to see. Final event of the PGA Tour regular season. Yep. Now we got FedEx Cup. Playoffs, baby. Playoffs have arrived. We got, I believe, Tiger will be playing five of the next six weeks because there's the four FedEx Cup events, which I think he committed to all four of them. The Ryder Cup, which, despite James, which, which despite James, he's, he's a year.

The Rider Cup, which despite Jim Furik's attempts, he will be on the rider cup. He will be attending. It's just a weird storyline in golf right now where he, every time he gets asked, he's like, nope, I'm not sure yet. He, too, you know, the Jim Furik and the Tiger Rider Cup saga, I guess I respect that he has to do it. Right? Like, he can't just say, like, yep, that's Don Deal. Those guys are out on the team, but, like, they're not official yet. He just can't do that.

Well, they're just, like, waiting for theatrics? Yes. They want people to be like, build up the hype. Yeah. It's going to be like a primetime show where like they're going to have people walk out of a room and they're going to come on TV. They do the captain's what they do. It's like it's kind of a joke.

I mean, it's like they're serious about it. Like just say, I mean, we all know who's going to be on the team. That's why it's, it's not, it's ridiculous. It's not like it's a draft lottery for like the NBA and we all don't know what's going to happen. Like we know exactly what's going to be on the team. Yeah, he made some comments yesterday. I think he said, because he played really well this weekend. and he said yesterday when he was being interviewed afterwards,

I believe with Amanda Ballionis, that he, Tiger and Phil are playing great. They're looking great. He was saying, so he was basically saying they're on the fucking team without saying it. We also had another guy tweeted at us that he asked Jim Furik

and St. Louis at the PGA last week about picking Tiger and that Furik made a comment basically, he made a comment like, yep, we'll see, and then like started laughing basically and gave like an old. I love this. Right, you know what? He fucking loves it.

I'm almost flipping on the Furek side. He's like, it's the theatrics. He's trying to build up the hype, even though everybody knows who is going to be on the team. It's, I like it. I like it. I like it. Yeah, I kind of dig it. The Ryder Cup's going to be so fucking awesome.

But Tiger is playing. So there's one week break, I believe, between the BMW and then the Tour Championship. So Tiger would be playing all four and then in the Ryder Cup. So five of the next six weeks. We got to talk about our boy, Kip Henley, made some comments about Tiger that are going to get everybody very excited. First, we've got to talk about Dollar Shave Club, no matter what you do in the bathroom.

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and I think he finished like top 50 or top 40 at the PGA championship. But anyways, our buddy, Kip Henley, who we had on the show last week. Or I'm sorry, last year, not last week. We had Taylor Ford on last week. But anyways, Kit Henley, Awesome guy. Very, very active on Twitter, very outspoken caddy. Got a lot of great personality. He's our good buddy. He got into it chirping people about any sort of tiger hate whatsoever a couple days ago. And just some of these quotes from Kip are the best.

So he was responding to this absolute troll piece from Fox Sports Radio, some guy. I don't even know who the guy was. I refused to read it. But the headline that they were using was Tiger dominated a bad era of golf, bad all capital letters. Tiger dominated a bad era of golf, bad all capital letters. Tiger dominated a bad era of golf. The best players were all old and at the very end of their careers. Tiger never, all caps, had a guy like Brooks Keppka back then. Kip Henley responded. He goes, easily the dumbest take in the modern era.

Tiger was so good. He prevented anyone. What a line. I'm sorry to cut you up. Easily the dumbest take in the modern era. The guy who wrote that article is already dead. One line that he's dead. We're not just talking Twitter.

We're not just talking blogs. We're talking like politics. We're talking everything. Everything. When do you think the modern era began? I don't know. How far does this go back? What is the modern era?

I guess like when planes started to fly? He might, like, he might be saying that's the worst take, the dumbest take in the last 60 years. Yeah. Of anything. Easily, easily. Easily. Easily the dumbest take in modern, in the modern era with an exclamation point. Like, this like this takes the cake.

Nothing's even a close second. A quick Google search. It looks like the modern era started in the 1500s. Okay. So we're going on 500 plus years of this being the worst opinion in that era. Yeah. You're right. No, I mean, it's...

You're saying that the modern era maybe started when planes came was pretty fucking funny. No, I like that. But the modern era, also they say that in golf all the time. They say like, Tiger Woods is the best player of the modern era. Yeah, they stay in baseball too. Right. So it's like that's such a generic thing, but... Or general thing.

But anyways, Skip Penley. Easily the dumbest take in the modern era, exclamation point. Tiger was so good. He prevented anyone from becoming a Brooks Kebka. Just give him a couple more months. and he will prevent the next Brooks Kepka from happening. Tiger will win more tournaments in the next three years than any other player. Wow. Chills.

Kip. Fucking Kip bringing the heat, man. Kipp was ready to go to war. What a line that Tiger prevented anyone from becoming a Brooks Kepka. It's so true. I mean, Phil would have became a Brooks Kepka if Tiger wasn't just beating him every single time. Correct. He would have just won a shit ton of majors.

Yeah. He went on to, you know, so he discussed a bunch of different things. He responds to a couple people saying, like, Ernie Ells wasn't like too old. He was just like Tiger's age when Tiger was playing Tiger and Ernie Ells was phenomenal. So he quote tweeted someone that made that statement and said accurate post, exclamation point, do you know how great Ernie Ells was at golf? His game was so complete, but he got his ass handed to him so many times by Tiger.

It was hard to watch. Ernie was smart enough to just exit stage left. Mothy barked at Tiger and felt his wrath like Stephen Ames. Oh my God. I'd love to know how old the guy is who wrote the Fox Sports article, because this feels like one of those articles now that gets written about LeBron James and Jordan, where these guys who didn't live through it and didn't see it, just assume that what they've seen with LeBron is better than what happened with Jordan.

When that's just not the case. Tiger's the same way with Brooks Kebke. Tiger was unbelievable. Brooks Kebke, even being in that conversation, makes me want to throw up a little bit. It was a, I think it's just a troll piece. You know, it's a page use grab. It's a payless, it's page use type grab. But he's got people talking so well done.

You know, I do think that there are people out there that hold this opinion that, like, Tiger, the only way Tiger could have possibly won as much as he did is because they're just, he hit a bad stretch of golf where you had like one of the greatest players of all time playing against one of the worst errors of all time. And that's just, that just couldn't be true. There's just no way that that can be true. And I've made the argument on this show that, like,

Phil Mickelson very well may be the second greatest player to ever play the game. I'm not saying the second greatest accomplishments. I'm saying, like, if you hold to the theory that golf has always gotten better, like every other sport, right? Like, clearly the, um, 2018, like, Washington capitals are better than, like, the 1930 Detroit Red Wings. Correct. Right?

So, like, if you hold that theory in every sport, then golf over the last 15 years has been way better than it was the previous 15 years. And Phil Nicholson's the second best player of that era. Therefore, you could argue he's the second greatest player to ever play the game of golf. And therefore saying that, like, he played against the tiger playing against the bad era. It's just crazy. And even if you go along with their line of thinking, like, it was a bad era of golf, which

it wasn't. he the way he dominated would have been it would have been in any era would have been fine he the way he dominated was so dominant that it's like the only reason they're able to make the argument that it was a bad era of golf is because one man was winning every single tournament but you can't hold that against the era if he wasn't winning every single tournament it would be just as you know just as spread out as it is right now right like j t justin thomas winning and then spieth winning and then rickie phallor like guys that are just like in the tour just winning like but tiger was just winning it all. It's not their fault. It's a chicken of the egg, a chicken of the egg situation. Right. You know what I mean? It's like which, right? Because it's like, well, like, now there's so many stars and so many guys winning majors and going on these streaks and all that,

is that because these guys are just better? Or is that because a guy like Tiger Woods just isn't there right now? My question is, if Prime and like Peak Tiger came up in 2014, you think he just dominates the way he did? Yeah. Yeah, that's That's what I think.

I don't think we know. You place Tiger in any era and he makes the era look back. 22-year-old Tiger is just going to dominate Jordan Spee. Right. That is my belief. I am of that belief. And if you go through and even in the book, they talk about in Armaged Dayans' book, they list all the stats. And the book's name is Tiger Woods.

It's Tiger Woods. It's got a huge picture of his face on it. I get a lot of tweets now. Is this the book? And what's the name? What is the name of it again? Tiger Woods. Kip Henley also went on to say after someone asked him,

who's better Tiger or Jack. He goes, answered this truthfully a long time ago. Nicholas was a badass for sure, but with his mediocre wedge and short game, Tiger wipes the floor with Jack. Tiger had zero holes in his game. So Kip's doing God's work out there. I don't know if he's looking for a job. I know.

I don't know. He's going to be a part of this show. I don't know. What's going up? He also tweeted out, hold your hand up if you never jumped off the Tiger train. So he is just raised up in the air. Hands are up. It's great to hear.

Tiger is back this week at the Northern Trust, which is just out at Ridgewood, not far from here. So the guys will be in New York and all of that. Then they're up to Boston, then Philly, then obviously Atlanta for the Tour Championship. So things are winding down. U.S. Amateur, Pebble Beach. I didn't get to cover a ton of this because, like I said, I had my buddy's golf trip and all of that. But this Victor guy from OSU is, he's awesome.

So he's from Norway. and he is an Oklahoma State guy. He, you know, he's kind of one of these guys that is always, you know, he's got all this potential and all of that. People think like he's never really quite been able to put it together, this Victor Huffland guy. He had some unbelievable quotes. I'm reading about some of the things from yesterday. They said, you know, they were talking about some of the records that he set that nobody's done since Tiger and all that. And his response was like, Tiger who?

Now he was, he did it very, very sarcastically. Yes. And got a laugh out of the crowd and all that. And then went on to say, like, look, anytime I'm mentioned like with Tiger, that's the coolest thing ever. But he also, this was from Golf Channel. I was reading a couple articles. And they were talking about how between the 36 whole finale, because in between rounds, he was just chilling for like an hour on his phone. And they said, every other college kid is a clue to his iPhone, of course.

But Hovlin wasn't replying to text or sifting through his Twitter mentions or checking out Snapchat. He was reading a philosophical debate about affirmative action. That's said he's consistently on his phone reading articles, gaining knowledge, and there have been times this year that it's 20 minutes before his tea time and he hasn't warmed up yet. This, I believe, was from his coach. He said, so we're thinking, is Victor going to warm up today, or is he going to roll out there cold? He would go to the range, literally hit 10 to 12 balls, and off to the first tee he'd go. He knows what he's working on. He's not down there searching for anything.

Now, this is the guy I can get behind. I like this guy. This is a mix of your boy, Deschambeau, and like a normal human being. a guy that like he's reading debates about affirmative action. He's doing weird stuff instead of like being a normal person. But then he's going out there like every other golfer in the world and just hitting a couple

balls at the range and stepping up to the tee. That's like John Daley shit. So he's like a little mix. This guy may be my favorite golfer like coming up. I'm 100% with you. This is like taking the kind of qualities from DeCambeau that we want to love and then like packaging him into actually a very likable guy. He's got a big old

smile. He's fucking laughing. He's cracking jokes about Tiger and all that in his acceptance. The same is Victor with like a VI. With the K. That's huge. You can already see like the covers of magazines when he wins. Victory. Victory. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's an easy one. Yep. Victoria. They just love that one with the K and all that. Pebble, we got a good look at Pebble. So the highlights I did get to watch. They just get you so fired up for Pebble because we've got the U.S.

open there next year. We're watching golf at Pebble Beach and the Black next year. That's fucking insane. Major championships at the Black and at Pebble. Oh. And the other thing people have to realize is, yeah, of course, Augusta. And then Royal Port Rush in Ireland is like... Is this the best four courses for a major in, like, recent years?

Yeah, I think so because not from necessarily, like, if you're this, you know, super pure architecture geek, but in terms of, like, guys like us who just love the aesthetics and kind of the history, the combo. And even just the names. The names, like, and Royal Port Rush, too, is, like, on the water. It's got the gorgeous views. Pebble is pebble. They released like a one-minute clip after Karnusti finished up of Port Rush, and it looked insane. Insane.

Their little promo there? Yes. European Tours been bringing it with all their promo. They're smart. No, they've been bringing it. They brought it. I noticed their social media game was great. Dude, they do this thing on their Instagram where, like, it's like a swipe, and it just shows the whole guy's face as you swipe on the Instagram.

They're doing things that I've never seen on Instagram. How they do that stuff. It's insane. Don't we know the guy who's running their shit? Their Instagram, their social media? There's this guy, Rue McDonald, who is a... You know, he does a lot of their social. I don't know if he runs the whole thing, but he does, he's very involved in their social.

He was the guy we hung out with the U.S. Open. Yes. Scottish kid, awesome guy. He kind of helped me out with my trip when I went out there. Who's ever doing the European tour or social media is doing a very good job? Something as, like, running the Open's Instagram account and, like, the European tour, they knock it out of the park. Like, this is something you would see from, like, a Fortune 500 company. Yes.

They're bringing it. Yeah. It's awesome to see. So anyways, you're right. That list of four courses next year. I mean, we're going to start at Augusta. We're going to go one month later at Bethpage Black, which is like our home course basically down the street. I played it this weekend.

Oh, we got to talk about your round. So I, um, I, it is following a round like that on Instagram is so addicting. I was legitimately like refreshing trying to like, where is Frankie's updates? It is addicting trying to find you. I know. Well, I figure, you know, you do it all the time and you do it at these unbelievable courses and you're always like hitting unbelievable shots and you're fucking like you're scoring well and I'm going through a really rough I'm going through a really rough patch in my game right now so I'm like taking videos of just

regular swings and these balls are just going everywhere it's very brave of you so yesterday I played the black with my friend uh you know you put up that picture of the warning sign and you get just flooded like holy fuck like let's go and it's so weird to me because I've played it a million times it's right down the block from my house I don't think of it as anything but if you think of it as like you're going to a top 100, you know, U.S. Open course. Like when someone sees that, that image, they're like, holy shit, he's at the black. Like, yeah, I'm at the fucking black. That place is amazing.

So you got to talk about your whole, the way this came to be even on Sunday, because for a normal person, like, that just doesn't make sense. Yeah, we're sitting around Sunday morning, you know, see the weather outside. It's a little, it's a little, like, gloomy. You know, there's no sun, but it's supposed to rain. It's not going to rain. You know, I send one text through, like, these two guys that I always play with. I'm like, what are you?

guys doing the one kid says like i just looked at the tea times like we're going to play the black in like an hour i was like what he's like let's go fucking booked it in a second there's uh one guy ended up not being able to make it so it was just me and my buddy chris uh he this guy was the only guy that was not involved in that whole debate uh that happened about the uh the gimmee and the good good good good uh this is the guy that we called to let us know if i was right or wrong because we always go to him first and then i'll see how i'm feeling and then i'll come on here and talk about it because he's like a pretty good golfer's been a looper's whole life uh I always go to him with anything that I have a question with.

So, why not with him? We got to the black. It takes us 15 minutes to get there. You know, like you were saying, most people in the world, when you're playing a U.S. Open course, I was sitting on my couch and maybe 25 minutes later I was putting at the Bethpage Black Green. Especially because I get messages from people all the time that are like, hey, we're going to come. I'm coming to New York with some buddies.

We're trying to book a whole trip around trying to play the Black course. Is there anywhere going to be able to get on? Just get here. Just get here. you will be able to get on. Just trust me. Like the website, you can do it. You can book D-Times on the website five days in advance.

If you're not a New York State resident, seven days in advance. If you are, you refresh the website. People cancel. So just think backwards, too. Like, think about, if you're trying to play Saturday, you have to, I believe the cancellation policy is 48 hours in advance. So if you're trying to play Saturday, people on Thursday and Wednesday night will be canceling. So refresh that shit.

You'll get one. You can also just do the get there early thing. Or just like look that morning. Like, if you're looking at that morning. going to play at 2 o'clock, 1.30? We got a 225 tea time on August 19th on a Sunday, like in the prime time of golfing at the black. So

we get there and my god was I nervous on that first tee. I was texting you, I messaged you. I had a couple stoolies that noticed us at the driving range. And you know, you just heard the whispers like, oh, this Frankie. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, now they're going to watch me. And we all had the band on. You know, you know what a guy's playing

in the black because he's got that color band on and they cut it with the real nice soft scissors right before you're trying to get into a nightclub they put the band on you and everything and I'm like talking to my buddy I'm like oh god I hope these guys aren't like playing with us or they're behind us because like that first tee is so fucking nerve wracking I'm on the putting

green and some guy from the clouds he looks like he was holding the transfusion goes hey but an eyes they're going to be out there today I'm like why do you I'm screaming at him now like why'd you have to tell me that like I wasn't going to hit him maybe I was going to start hitting a like maybe I was going to start hitting a driver up like I'm seeing all these videos people

are tagging me up like you can use your driver from the from the from the from the skirt oh boy i'm like guys i'm just gonna keep it in real trouble if you're starting that also people got to understand the first tea at the bed page black if you haven't been there is like you've seen the sign everybody's seen that sign and then that sign is perched like 15 feet above the tea where people chill there's a couple benches and like these local like crusty fucking long island guys are always hanging out there's like a walkway that goes through the park and like that's one of like the main attractions is to watch people just kill themselves And then like I said, like the T is so you're like a little below people.

So they're like perched up above you. The words that they say like echo twice as loud because of where they're at. Like they think they're whispering to each other, but you can hear every fucking thing they're saying. The starter's there. The starter always chirps you. Like, God, you guys got the black today. I hope you brought you a game. Good luck.

All right. All right. All that's going on on the first team. Yeah. And I step up to the first ball and I made the look. I looked up and I saw those kids just gravitate from the putting green. I'm like, they're fucking one. watching me, man.

Here comes Frankie Broly from Foreplay. The golfing guy now. He thinks he's like this big golfer. I'm like, I'm shitting my pants up there, man. My buddy just, I should have went first honestly. My buddy just creamed one like 3-10 right down the middle of the draw. Into the wind. I'm like, you just hit the best shot of your entire fucking life.

I was like cursing. I'm like, you motherfucker. Are you kidding me? Like, who do you think you are doing that right before me? Why couldn't you just duck hook one? Now I'm the only one in this. I went last. I'm like, now I'm the only, I'm talking to him.

As he's walking by me, I'm just like, destroying his life. I get up to the ball and I hit probably the worst drive I've hit in the year 2018. I hit a duck hook to the right. I screamed four. I'm like, four. I went on to the other golf course. I don't know, Riggs, if you know, the green course. Yeah, the green course.

So the green course just perfectly goes parallel to the black and actually follows like the dog leg right with it. So I ended up being in a nice spot. Scramble for a bogey. I was on my way. You know, I played the whole well, but it was just very, very embarrassing to hit that first shot in front of people. that you know we're watching you and you know that they're like barcel fans and stuff i hated it i hated it every second so i loved the video on seven so you you you know you take this picture of seven which is awesome par four you're perched up uh if you hit the top of the hill you're perched up with this beautiful view down

my best drive of the day i went in between two bunkers oh wait by the way we played the blues because these guys that we just like paired up with just stepped up to the blue tea ryan whitney messaged me during the day he's like what do you what uh length you planted at that time like 7400 100 yards. Yep. The blues are deep there. Yeah, and like these guys just stepped up to them. And what are we going to do?

Right. The blues, too. People got to understand. The blues are, I believe, 78.1 rating. It's the hardest golf course in the world. So literally, if you're a scratch golf, or you're going to shoot six or seven over par there. That's like how hard the blue teas are.

Yeah, I mean, I'll save the suspense. I think I shot at 250 yesterday. I'm just going to get right ahead of that. I mean, I didn't put the ball on the hole on three different holes. Like, I just didn't, the ball never went inside the hole on three separate holes. Your action on six was incredible because you hit, you take this beautiful picture. I'm like, oh, Frankie's right in the middle of the first. They must be playing some good golf.

And then at the next Instagram story pans to you, and you just like, you're just butter knife the shit out of it from the middle of the fair way. He says, we are in trouble. Yes, that was a pitching wedge, 141-yard pitching wedge. I had a nice downhill. When was a little on the face, I'm like, oh, man, I got something hit like a 148, 150 shot. I'll take a nice soft pitching wedge in my head. I'm saying nice soft, right?

Fuck, man. When I watched that video, I came down this thing 800 miles an hour. The thing went straight. I don't think it went more than 15 feet off the ground, and it just ducked cooked into the fescue. It was the biggest butter knife I've ever seen. You could hear it hurt my ears. It didn't take a blade of grass off the ground.

It just was all ball. The guys we played with were just cracking up because they end up being Barcel fans, too, and they're just like, man, you can't hit that club. You just can't do it. So, yeah, I mean, I had a rough thing. day. I think eight, nine, and ten, I part, I had three parts in a row. I was feeling good. Those are good pars. Yeah, they were great bars. I said eight. It's a tough shot.

Yeah, I was, I was playing well. You know, I bogeyed 11. I get to 12, and the wheels fell off. I lost my phone. It fell out of my bag somehow in the Fescue, and it was insane. We went on find my, we went on find my iPhone. I noticed it on the fairway. I hit a nice pitch shot out of the Fescue on 12. I love if I hit a nice pitch shot out of the. I did. And there's a lot of fescue. And my friend goes, oh, dude, like, you lost your phone. Let's look on Find my iPhone. And I'm like, it's not going to be that specific.

Right. Like, it's going to tell you it's on the golf course. When I tell you that Find My iPhone tracked us to the exact piece of fescue, we were walking on top of it as if it was, like, we were searching for gold. Like, it was like beeping and we're like one step to the left. And then we look and it's just perfectly perched inside, like a bush inside the fescue, just sitting there, like ringing because the other guy I was calling it. It was insane.

That is amazing. Amazing. Yeah. I would have thought it's like it's on Long Island. Yeah. Right. Okay. Right.

Or like it would be a huge blue circle. Like it's somewhere in here. It's like, wow, I'm done. I'm just going to get a new phone. That's great. That really set me off of the day. Like when you have something like that and like my heart was racing and I had to step up to the next ball. I ended up to the next ball.

It was bad, man. I think I made like a 15 on 15. I'm not kidding. I could not get the ball. 15 on 15. I just couldn't get the ball in the air. Were you stuck in a bunker or something? What happened?

So 15 is like one of the worst holes in golf for me. I mean, it's... Fifteen is one of the hardest golf holes in the world. And I hit one way left. Like, basically the fescue that borders 16 coming back down. And I was way left, and I hit the ball. It went three inches. I finally got it out.

It hit a branch came right down. Finally got it out of that. It went across the fairway into the thick stuff. Finally got it onto the green and went over the green. Tripped it onto the green. It went over and into a bunker. And when a time went into the bunker, I'm like, I'm picking up. I'm done.

They're all just watching me. I'm like, well, you guys stop looking. I was getting so angry. I'm like, stop looking. at me. Like stop that's paranoid Frank. Get your eyes off me. Right. And like go play your own shots. Stop like just watching me hit shots. Go play your own shots. We all know. I'm not in on your

whole. I'm not going to be around the hole for a while. Just do your own thing. Yeah. 15 for people to realize too. 15 is that hole. I'm sure a lot of people recognize it. But like it's a slight dog leg left, incredibly narrow fairway, long as par four with all uphill approach with those huge bunkers that guard the front of it. And the green, like everybody knows the image, but the green from the T-box, it It looks like it's 8,000 yards away.

Yeah. And elevated and just bunkers everywhere. You're like, what am I going to do here? What a golf course to walk. I mean, that thing just fucking beats the shit out of you. Yeah, it does. It does. It really does.

I mean, you're walking up to these tea boxes. Like, you're done. You just got the shit beat out of you on a hole, and then you have to walk just on a vertical incline to the tee box. And your legs feel like they're going to just explode. The walk from 17 to 18T at Bethpage Black is the single hardest walk in all of golf because you have just gotten your absolute shit pushed in for 17 holes. straight for four hours and now you have to trudge uphill carrying your fucking bag like a schmuck

you're like 800 over par and you have to go hit this t shot after by the time you get up i have to take like a five minute break when i get to the top because i can't swing i'm like out of breath i can't believe what they did to the 18th hole uh where they just expanded the fairway yeah they've just making it like so easy which i thought the 18th should just be harder coming down like on a major sunday yeah i haven't seen it yet that's wild they just made it unbelievably wide they took away like two bunkers on either side. Now it's like the widest fair way on the entire golf course. I wonder why.

Yeah, because clearly they did that for the PGA next year. Right. They want some drama late, like birdies or something. Like when guys were winning, weren't guys like hitting like six iron wedge into win? I believe that's what Lucas Glovered.

Yeah, like a three shot lead on 18 and he hit the six iron off the tee. We were talking, I mean, this is very specific for people that know Bethpage, but it would be fun to watch them just totally change 18 for one of those majors and have it go all the way across the red and have like the, I think the 18th hole in the red be the green.

And so you got to hit it across like two golf courses and make it an impossible part four. Somebody proposed that after the last U.S. Open in 2009. Because the 18th on the red course is kind of parallel to the 18th on the black. Yeah. And the 18th on the red course is one of the best holes on all of Bethpage proper, which is five golf courses. It's phenomenal. Yeah. And the 18th at Bethpage is a phenomenal closing hole for all.

Almost every golfer in the world except for, like, the best players, because it's just too easy. It's way too easy. But for guys like us, it's, like, iconic. It's a beautiful view. The bunkering's incredible. The clubhouse in the background, elevated second shot. If you don't hit a great T shot, like, you're in some bunker that Frankie made eagle from one time. I say it every time.

I said, fun fact. And they're like, we know you've made it. They didn't even let me get it out. They're like, you've made an eagle from here. I'm like, well, goddamn. I mean, I've shot a 225 today. You guys can't let me talk to you about me making an eagle. Let me tell you about the eagle.

Why don't you just shut the fuck up and let me tell you about the eagle. But yeah, it was a good day. Bethpage Black is one of the best. I highly recommend it. Jared Corabas is a Red Sox super fan. No way. Who calls himself? We're doing this?

The dog is rocket. Who do I have to talk to to not have to do this? Did we ever get, did they do a 4Play one on their podcast? No, he said no. He said no. I asked him last week, I was like, have you been doing 4Play? Had it reads on your podcast? He's like, what are you talking about?

Does he know that we, is he embarrassed of what we're doing here? We have to read this. He looked alarmed when we told him that we had a starting night and that it says he calls himself the... Jared Carabas is a Red Sox superfan who calls himself, quote, the Salgas Rock. What a horrible ad read. It makes him sound like the worst person on earth, but go ahead. It does.

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Subscribe, rate at five stars, and leave a comment. last time I did this last time where I read this part where it says tell your listeners to leave a certain comment or hashtag so we can track it. That actually, I don't believe, made it into the podcast last week because this was like right when it cut off. Oh, did we talk about that? We never talked about it.

But last week's podcast for those listening. I'm starting to get hard for and just thinking about this. It was the scariest moment in history of podcasting where we did that entire hour and a half and we went to the computer afterwards for all the listeners out there, the computer that records everything. checks the levels, all of that.

And when I went to hit stop record, all it had said on there was, like, the drive is full with like a big X, a red X. It means like nothing recorded, basically. Yeah. So we finished at 9 o'clock on Monday night. We've been here forever. This is a post-PGA championship, like, review, and like our biggest podcast of the year we were thinking.

Podcasts after majors are huge. And we were all jazzed up on it. We had all those stories about Riggs, like, running into Tiger and, like, making him do the shimmy. All these amazing stories. And we thought they were. gone. Frankie saw it just said is not responding in the program just

close. We had our guy, Andrew, tech guy Andrew come in and fix it because like, you know, you just bring anyone that even knows anything about computers in here because we didn't want to touch anything else. We didn't. We just totally were hands off. Yeah, so we left it at the alert where it just said like drive full and Andrew hit okay and everything

just forced quit. And then he reopened the program and it was just a blank project. So to us, it's just like it's gone. And I walked out of the room and I just put my, I mean, it my birthday, right? We were here until 9.30 p.m. And I was like, I'm going to be here until 12 o'clock. And like,

my family had dinner waiting for me. I'm like, this is the worst night of all time. That was the worst, like, eight minutes of my life, I think. We didn't say a word to each other. We just all sat out there with our head and our hands. How are you supposed to redo it? What are we going to do? How am I going to retell those stories? That's the problem. And you brought up, I think you brought up the good example when they had to redo the rundown that one time. And you just can't

keep it fresh. And you just like, this fucking one down ever? Yeah. You're just like, you can't do it. You can't retell those stories, especially that one specifically because you had all the tiger stories so essentially uh andrew tech guy andrew works some sort of sorcery he said he went into the wave files folder because while it's recording it separates each 10 minutes or something like that in a separate folder so he was able to grab all those and throw them all together i was like what the fuck he talking about did maybe he just did all that to make it seem like he's really i don't know i think they're able to say

whatever they want and then meanwhile it's just like he just hit like refresh and it was just there I think you offered to kiss Andrew on the lips. Well, I did kiss him on the head like three times. Yeah, no, that was the biggest moment in the history of this podcast. Because we thought we were 100% convinced. We had just recorded an awesome hour and a half that was going to be one of our most listened to shows of the year because it's right after the PGA. And it couldn't have gone better. We had some laugh out loud, funny moments.

It was really good. And that that was all just gone. And that it was 9.30 p.m. at night on a Monday night after we had worked all day. And we had to go back into the podcast studio and pretend like we were talking to each other. I honestly don't know how that would have gone. Like, I think we would have gotten into it. Like, we would have done it, but it would have been a piece of shit. Well, the craziest thing is that it did stop recording.

Yes. It stopped in the middle of this ad read. So it could have stopped at any point. It could have stopped five minutes in, and instead it stopped like an hour and like 31 minutes in. And we talked for like an hour and 34 minutes or something. We get lucky, man. Remember when we recorded in Erica's office that one time? And the little device died as we were like in the first minute and we saw it.

Yeah. Like, we get lucky with our podcast. We legit were one minute in in this little. remote device thing that runs on batteries was just ran out of batteries a minute into the podcast and we saw it. Somebody saw it. Otherwise, we would have just never, yeah, we, someone said like, are you sure these levels are right? And you looked at the levels real quick and you're like, it's dead. There's no levels. Yeah, there are no levels. No sign of life from this thing. Frankie, is this normal? I don't think so. 100 million dollar valuation company. We just got shit

just runs out of batteries as we're trying to start. Man, we've been getting by the skin of our teeth. No doubt about it. Go to starting nine, the podcast. Go rate it five. subscribe and leave a comment on iTunes. Write something about 4Play. Just say hashtag 4Play. I'm here for Fordplay. I heard all about the coolest August rocket fucking clown. And I came to leave a...

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