Fore Play - Tiger ‘Alpha’ Woods

Episode Date: August 23, 2022

Tiger Woods has taken control of the situation. We discuss “the meeting” reports. Rory calls Tiger the alpha. Tiger is seriously involved in the new PGA 2k video game. The ‘net’ Tour Championship is upon us. Trent is painstakingly close to breaking 90. Trent crafts another DM to Rickie Fowler. Much more. Full squad.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Tiger Woods gets involved with something. He starts swinging his huge, powerful dick around and things get done in the right way. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Foreplay presented by Barstool Sports. We've got the whole squad. It's myself, Trent, Frankie, and Lurch.

It is August 23rd, 2002, when this show aired. We got a lot to get to, a ton to get to. More breaking news, obviously, in the Live department. All kinds of fallout information from The Meeting with Tiger Woods and Roy McElroy. News about venture they've been working on for years that include stadiums. We got Breaking 90 that I want to get into. We've got a new Game of Thrones that came out that we were talking about a lot pre-show because I haven't actually watched it yet.

We've got a bunch of from the galleries, which I assume we won't get to any of them, even though we will preface it by saying we're going to get to a lot of them. So we got a whole kind of normal show to do on this fine Tuesday that this is airing. So boys, hello. How are your weekends? Good, I hope. Fantastic weekend. Frankie,

did you watch House of the Dragon? I did. Okay. I just want to get clear on where everybody is in terms of if they've watched it, if they haven't watched it. I watched it. Riggs has not watched it. Frankie has watched it. Lurch didn't even know it existed.

So that's where we're at right now. That's a big. Amazing. It's the biggest thing. I had no idea. Yeah, I had no idea. I knew it's coming out. I just didn't know it was out yet.

I'd say it's unacceptable to not know that that was playing last night. He's a big Game of Thrones guy. I am. I was on the Grand Canyon for a few days and had no internet access or enough. This was last night. Right, I know. But so anyway. Sunday night at 9 o'clock, like HBO.

The whole world was tweeting about it. Yeah, I thought it was fantastic. I really thought it was a great first episode without giving anything away. Like, I just thought it was a really, really, really good way to start off a new story to get you invested in everything. So I think they could have fucked it up. I think it could have been cheesy. It could have been like too much. I thought it was perfect.

Yeah, I thought it was great. And a big part of Game of Thrones and I was reminded of this yesterday or on Sunday is the social media culture around it is really, really fun. Like the lead up to an episode is so exciting. Everybody's talking about it. Now, you can get into, like, you know, people talking about whether they like the show or they don't like the show. People who like Game of Thrones and like that world, which I'm one of those people, I love the lead up to it. Yesterday, Sunday, I was just sitting there being like, I don't think I'm tweeting enough about how excited I am. And I couldn't figure out what to tweet.

But then when it's happening, everybody's tweeting about it. And I agree. I thought it was a great opener, a great. first episode just to kind of bring us back into that world a little bit, not to give it anything away, but a lot of violence, a lot. Yeah. Good. Good. Look, I, this will be the one week that I just couldn't do it. I got friends in town. We're hanging. We're at the brewery. I wasn't going to be like, I have to escape to like lock into the show. It's a golf trip, the whole deal. So I haven't been able to do. I'm going to watch it Wednesday when we fly to Toronto for the Barstow Classic. First one ever that's

going to be international. So I'm excited for that. Download it, saving it for the flight. I tried to watch it last night before I went to sleep. after having several beers throughout the day and being like, oh yeah, I can get through this at 12, 30 at night, made it through the first 10 minutes, woke up and didn't really remember anything, except I was saying to Trent beforehand. I remember kind of the hype at the very beginning,

and it got me jacked up, but I just couldn't make it through it because of the circumstances, so I'm very, very excited. And I imagine going forward we'll be able to break down and basically turn this into a Thrones podcast as we move through the fall, and there's really no golf to talk about anyway. So playing that coming up,

I heard the show was great, but I don't want to ruin it. So House of Dragon next week, you'll probably get your much, much desired, I can only presume all the listeners of our golf podcast, much desired episode recaps of House of the Dragon. Kurt, we got to talk about Curve that I want to get into breaking 90 because like everyone, I watched the most recent episode. Trent was right fucking there.

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Yep. Yep. I don't want to be a spoiler, but it's been four or five days now that people have had the opportunity to watch it. I would say cover your ears for the next 15 seconds or so. But I think it ended up being a 91 or 92 that Trent posted. You were right there the entire time. You were hitting great shots. I think there was some discouragement from the last couple weeks when it's like 96 and this.

If you could shoot 90 fucking two, you could shoot 88. That's just the fact, I would say. Yeah. No, I was much more encouraged after the latest round than I was after the back to back at Rockville. Because I think I shot a 97, the first time at Rockville. I shot, and then I shot a 96 at Rockville. We went there two times in a row. And I just felt like 97, 96 is one thing.

But there is another tier even before you hit an 89, which is like a 92, 93, where you're like, all right, now if I had just done a couple of things different, I really could have done it. Yeah, I played really well at Colonial, this latest episode. And I was thinking about it. I really wish I had done it that day, obviously, because I felt like everything, for the most part, was working, especially the parts of my game that sometimes aren't working. Some days, you just can't chip, and some days you just can't putt. And that day, I, for some reason, could do both of them.

The putting, and I'm probably going to regret saying this because there's a clip of me out that I regret saying it, but I think I figured out the putting. I just, for whatever reason, I've figured out what I'm doing when I stand over a putt, and I know Lurch that sounds foreign, that sounds insane. You and I are guys that have talked about how, when we walk on to a green, we feel like we're standing on a waterbed, for whatever reason, I'm one of the great lag putters in the world right now. And, and, yeah, keep going, keep going.

Get the full thought out because it's ridiculous. But I watched the episode back. I watched it while it was airing. I was one of the 10,000 people that were watching me try to break 90. And I was surprised at how good my chipping was. I was more aggressive with my chipping. And I don't remember being fully conscious of doing that. But my chips, I was giving them a chance.

I was running them up onto the green. Usually they're short or they land on the fringe. And it's like now we're definitely going to have to tupe up. But I was getting up and down from some spots where I never, what in the past. The three sevens are a problem. That's a big problem. If I don't have three sevens, if I just turn the three sevens into three sixes, I shoot an 89, which is, which is just a crazy thing to look back on. I keep looking back on the eighth hole, which was Valley that day, or no, no, no, no, Lake, which was our 17th hole, where I had, it was a par five,

and I had a run at birdie. If I had birdied that hole, then I would have, then I have to Bertie 18th to shoot 989 was last time I made Backpacked Birdies probably never but at least I would have had a real shot at it so there's a couple of things that were just if I had just done a little differently I could have done it and I know I say that every time we post one of these episodes but this was true because it was a 92 and a couple things here and there if the sun and the sweat doesn't get in my eyes on that part of three I probably make a four and it's like that makes everything way That was a dramatic moment. That was a dramatic moment. That needed a badger movie. I said you made a five there because you got sweat in your eyes. That's crazy. Maybe you make a three.

I could have made a three. Definitely a four. It should have been a four at the very most. So, yeah, it was a great episode. Even if, you know, if you kept listening and the score got spoiled for you at the beginning of this conversation, it's a fun episode because it's one of the episodes and it's a rare episode in this series where I have a real chance the whole time and it's really, really fun. you know and frankie shot another he broke 80 again so he's just playing incredibly well I was going to say that there's now it's turned into a funny like um like spin off series with Michael Scott where of breaking 90 where he's trying like

Frankie knows that the show is supposed to be about Trent but he's like I mean you guys have to pay attention to what's going on. He finished we finished the first night and he goes that was 37 I'm like What do you mean the 37? Like that's crazy.

Dude, there's something about, because playing with Trent, he plays ball and hole. And like every shot means something like so much. It means so much every single shot. And I am also paying attention to my game just as much. It feels like I'm in a competition, even though I'm not playing against Trent. Like when I'm actually on the course, I'm like, holy shit, this is a day today. Like, it's not just a regular round of golf. For some reason, that's been helping me, like, add on just really good scores.

And I'm playing ball and hole. I'm legitimately taking it. trying to like break par like secretly on the other side of Trent like bro there was like the other day I was one over through 14 it's like I'm gonna do it today I was like I'm gonna just make a birdie here and then we're gonna come into the final stretches and I'm gonna end up shooting a 71 but yeah no it's been amazing Trent had a really really good chance it didn't it felt like he had a chance all day but it also didn't feel like that pressure all day like we were kind of like 15 16 being like let's just keep playing let's see what's gonna happen he was like he knew something

was happening. We knew something was happening, but I think that the chipping was definitely good. A couple times where I was just, his chipping's getting so much better. Whereas like, this is what I had to deal with when I got rid of my chipping yips. I now talk about them in the past tense. It's like, now they stop so much, like, on a shorter distance. Like, I can kind of go closer to the pin now.

So I'm always thinking to myself, like, give it a little more juice. Like, now the point where I'm going to land it is closer to the hole than it used to be. It used to be like run it out because I'll never get you spin. Now it's like, oh, we can actually go like four feet, five feet right before the hole and that's going to be like your landing spot. And I kept telling Trent the other day, just give it a little more. Like, even on one, I'm like, give it a little more juice and he ended up blowing it way over the green. But I think that set him up that day for being more aggressive of like, because on his next one, he almost drained. Like, instead of like always being so

cute, like trust that that wedge is going to do its job and it's going to stop relatively close to the hole if you give it a little bit more. Right. I mean, I had a couple chips that went by the hole that day, which is something I never do. Give it a chance. They usually land 10 feet short, and it's because I'm a little afraid of blading it and going over. But if you give it a real run, it feels way better. You get way more confident with it. Dude, I'll say with your lag putting real quick, like if you played at this place that I played the other day, Deepdale, if they call it like the Billionaires Club, there's like 25 billionaires that belong there,

what they do to those greens is honestly the worst thing I've ever experienced in golf. Like, I love this place. It's probably one of the more elite clubs I've ever played. Just straight northeast golf course. But fuck is there defense the greens. I mean, I think they were running like a 15. And the whole day, the first putt, you're just trying to keep it on the green. Like, when your caddy says, you just, like, good luck keeping this one on the green, I don't think that's fun golf.

Like, I hit 12 greens in regulation. I shot like a 89. Like, nothing about that was fun. And the caddy's like, just keep this one on the green. It's like, what are you talking about? I'm 12 feet away from the hole. We're not trying to make this. He's like, you have no chance.

You have no chance of keeping this thing in. So there is like differences in like courses played where it comes. Like that lag putting there would make you legitimately take your putter and like shove it up your ass on. Like you wouldn't like know what the fuck's going on. I'm fucking. I'm so over courses turning up the greens as a defense. Like go fuck yourself. Like at that way, just fucking grow up.

Like, I'm telling you, Scotland really made me be like. Like, this is how everybody should do it. Like, don't be an asshole. And I get that, you know, some courses use it because they wanted to defend and they don't want people putting up low scores. But like, grow up. We're trying to have fun. We're not trying to keep 12-foot putts on the green.

T, I would say congrats on a great round of golf, though, regardless in the breaking 90, that's like, that's a legitimate score. And then, yeah, I did a similar whisper. Frank, we were walking out the friar's head. And I think second shot on the green, just above the pin, maybe I had like 14 feet. I whispered to my buddy E I was like no I don't worry about the putting

Like I've got it like I figured out putting Just like de-whispered it to himself And first putt I just de-green right down the hill Just like hit it Maybe just he was like ooh And I was like what that looks pretty good And then it just went 15 feet by And rolled into the rough

And you're like all right I don't know what putting's all about Because those fancy places man They just they turn it into a glass table It's a joke Oh yeah we're walking through the pro shop And everyone in the pro shop's like don't look at the hole today.

Like today the hole doesn't exist. I'm like, I don't even know what that means. It's not golf. You're taking away the game of golf. Like when you're, when your first attempt is not supposed to try and go in the hole, that is not the game of golf.

Every plus is a lag punt. Yes. Like eight feet out and he's like, let's just get this one close. Like, what are you talking about? That's for bogey. Like we have to try and make it. He's like, well, then you're making a nine.

The putting when you do not have the pace correct when you just don't have it that day and obviously when greens are 15 like you're less likely to have it. But putting like days when you just have your putting touch and the pace is good. Pudding is so easy because you don't even have to think about it. You look at the hole. You just put it. You don't even really think like how much is it uphill downhill? You're just kind of like, oh, you just feel it out. You're great.

When your pace is off, every part. of putting fucking sucks. Your lines change. You know you're not going to hit it close. As you hit it, you're like, go, go, go. Or sit, sit, sit. And it never sits. Now you have five feet and you know your pace sucks still.

So now you're like, just don't have five feet again. But you should be making it. And when your pace is off, putting wise. And shout out to Scott Fawcett, who we talked about last week. That's one of his biggest things always is like if I had to take somebody out and I had to shave 10 shots off there around that day, I would literally just take them and do speed drills for 15 minutes, 4BT off, just so that they have the pace right,

because if you just don't three putt, you basically will shave fucking 10 shots. He's like, that's pretty much what it comes down to. And it's amazing how true that is. And I've been practicing. So that helps too. Always helps.

I think the most frustrating thing in putting is when pace leaves you. Like sometimes I'm like close to par and being like, dude, I'm like, as long as I can two putt here, there's a par five up there, maybe I can make a two putt party. But when it leaves you on like the 13th or 14th, I think that might be the scariest thing in golf where you're like, dude, how do you get the ball close to the hole? And then you forget everything. I think honestly, that's the most, that's the scariest place that I get to on a golf course

is when I'm like close to the backstretch, maybe I'm like, if I par out, I'm like 73 or something like that. you're in the mix that maybe even break par. And then putting leaves you and you finish with a 76 and you still hit the ball well. And you're like, this game is the stupidest fucking game in all of sports. Dude, and it feels like on those days or those moments, those stretches when you don't have it, you never lag it to dead. Even your good lags, you're like, you watch it dribble out three and a half feet.

You're like, everyone's like, oh, that was really good. You're like, no, it needs to be dead. Like it needs to be to a point where every. everyone in the group is like, yep, that's good. And when it's not, you're like, no, no, no, no, no. It's just that those types of days, you can never just get it that close. You always have to mark it. You're always looking around like, fuck, everyone knows I can still miss this one.

And it's just so frustrating. The days when you're making everything, it feels like even your lags are like, you don't even have to make anything. You lag it to like two inches every time. And you're just like, yeah, it seems fucking easy. It's so fucking frustrating. Yeah, I was playing a match and he couldn't give me any of the putts. And like we're walking off greens and he's like, it was Matt Barzell, like the fucking superstar of my team.

I'm walking off the greens with them. And he's saying like, dude, I just can't give you anything today. Like you have no chance of making a one footer, let alone a three footer. He's like you're. And I was missing them all. And I lost by one on 18. I'm thinking back to all these these puts. It's like this place is not even real.

I don't understand why it's so hard. Like there's moments too. Like that's happened to lurched a few of the travel videos and stuff where it's hitting it so good. And he's got these. short putts and me and Trent are like we just can't we cannot give these to like he's he misses him so if he makes one early don't smile about that too that's like if he makes one early we'll start giving him to him because I think it'll be he'll be fine that's not true if you miss one early if you miss one early we're like he's not going to make a putt that does it sets a tone yeah I thought like I set

the tone the other day I missed a two footer on whole one it's like all right well now like if I just make that he thinks I'm still putting great but then it was funny there's also those moments where like I was down two pretty early and I blew a three footer by to 12 feet. He's like, that's good. And we just walked off the green and like everything about that was embarrassing and I felt like such a less of a human because we ended up pushing the hole. And I looked at him in the car. I'm like, yeah, that's just, that was very generous. Like he's like, I couldn't watch you four putt for a six. Like that I couldn't go up three. Like we're trying to have fun out here and you clearly can't understand this pace.

So let's just move on to the next one. But dude, it legitimately was like walk. It was rolling off the green and the caddies like, yeah, I'll get this one. Like it's just, that's a five putt, maybe a six putt. I just, I just was looking around being like, I can't do this today. Speaking about our own games, we've got in just a couple weeks coming up here, Myrtle Beach. So I'm quite excited about this because we've got really, and I'm pleased to announce and I shot my annual low yesterday. And I had been going through a rough stretch with the driver yet.

Everybody knows that. I had a soft cap applied to my USGA gin handicap, which is when your handicap is going up at such an alarming rate that they have to curtail it so that it can only climb. Let me see what the actual. So you get a notification of that? Because like when you post the score lower than like your handicap, they're like, hold on, are you sure?

So you're saying you're posting. continual scores higher than that. It was like my handicapped was going up at such an unusual pace that the system was like, we have to stop this. Like this can't be legitimate. So they apply a soft cap. I've seen this with my buddy J.R before.

We were roasting him going into like a buddy's trip. And then it happened to me. So I had, um, okay. So I posted yesterday that I shot 74 on Pioneer's number four from 67. hundred yards, birdied 18, just played lights out, couldn't miss. Great score.

And that, my handicap went from like a five or a four point nine down to a four point four. So now it's officially not on a soft cap. But yesterday I had posted because I shot, there's a video coming out Wednesday that for all the haters, this is a video that they're going to must watch because it's the worst probably on camera I've ever played. It's a barstool classic three weeks ago with Kevin Kisner. It's going to be really funny. We were a nightmare.

Kiz, I think got 15 minutes asleep the night before. I was considered like the bell of the ball in sleeping terms because I got like two and a half hours of sleep or whatever it was and we were just a total nightmare. So that's coming out Wednesday night, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. People need to watch that. But the point is that the scores I was posting during that stretch

were so bad that they knocked out a few low ones from, you know, 20 rounds ago or whatever. And my handicap went from like a three something skyrocketed up to like about a five. And they legit were like your handicap appears to be, flying out of orbit and we need to like keep it here on earth. So we're applying a soft cap from the USDA. Oh my God. So my whole point saying that though is that my last three rounds have been very good.

I shot 78 on Pioneer's number two from the blue white combo, which is I believe my best overall round I've ever played on number two. Granted, the greens were soft. There's been a ton of rain here. So that made it a billion times easier, but still played pretty well. And then yesterday was probably the best round start, you know, start to finish. I've ever played my life. They hit 11 out of 14 fareways.

I only had four bogeys. I had two birdies. The rest were just pretty easy pars, and it was a very fun round to golf. My whole point in saying that is we're going to Myrtle Beach. We've got Lurch's handicap as below as shit. He's a ball striking machine. Frankie's handicap is like five shots lower than it was.

It feels like two months ago. And Trent Ryan is on the cusp of breaking 90 when he did a whole series less than a year ago about how he couldn't even break 100. And so when we go to Myrtle Beach, and we can visit Myrtlebechgolf. to shop golf packages for the popular fall golf season. Really, we could have something unlike we've ever had in four-play history,

where the whole squad is playing the best golf we've ever probably played. Yeah, without a doubt, I think it's going to be pretty good golf. And then when you know this crew, we'll all just shank the balls into the trees and into the water. And we'll all be like, no, we've actually been playing good at home. But on camera, it's like really hard. And I'll be making excuses and not wondering. It's going to be more frustrating. It was a lot better when I had no expectations.

Like now I feel like I have to try and play better and like actually post better scores. So yeah, I feel frustration coming, not success. I feel like handicapped, though, is really just your misses are a little bit better, but you still suck. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't mean that you're going to shoot a good score. It's just like your misses are just a little bit better,

but you can still miss it all over the place. And like, we'll- I don't know. Man, I think some of it's pretty drastic. Like, Trent's seen my game. I'm, like, all over the pin now from 150 yards, 107. It's crazy. Yours has been a significant, like, drop, though.

Significant. I mean, you learn saying, like, somebody goes from a seven to, like, a five and a half or something. That's not, you probably wouldn't necessarily know it. When you go from, like, a 10 to a five, I mean, that person, you're a different, you're a different human being now. That's just, you're, that's different. He's playing really well. I wonder if a lot of it's. like we're playing colonial a lot. It's the first time I've ever settled down in a place. So it's

like you're just playing the same course. I've always said that about guys that belong to a club where it's like way, way. I used to use that as an excuse for why my handicap was so high. Because when you looked at my gin, it was like Pebble Beach, Band and Dune, Spyglass. And these are the best places in the world. But holy shit, is it hard to just show up to those places and and score your best score at your last 20 rounds? It's like very, very hard to lower that. number. So now I feel like I'm getting into a group where you're just playing a lot more golf. We're also playing so much more. I think I've like inputted like 35 rounds this year. Last year, I only had like 26 or something like that. So I'm already past what I was all last year.

Yeah, it really does come down to like you just got to play more. Like I yeah, we do the breaking 90s and obviously we do the travel series Scotland and all over. But I'll also just go out to Colonial and play quick nine holes in an hour and a half. And that will change everything. Because you're just, Keep playing. You keep playing. It's the most obvious thing in the world. The more golf you play, the better you get at. Muscle memory, right?

Just like standing over a shot and just like, you don't even have to really think about it. You just pull the trigger. It's so much different than when you haven't played in weeks and you're sitting in an apartment or a desk or an office. And then you get out there and you're just kind of like standing over something that's foreign. It's way harder to think. You have to think about every aspect of your swing where when you do it pretty routinely several times a week, it doesn't feel like you really think about much. You're kind of just like, I just swing at this. thing. Just like if I were just throw a baseball at somebody, I would just throw a baseball. It's

like it becomes much easier. But point is, Myrtle Beach, we're excited to get there. Sandy White beaches, all kinds of cool restaurants, over 70 golf courses. You can check out our package, all right? Murtle Beach, South Carolina, it's a golf capital world if you didn't know that. The Myrtle Beach Golf Trail, where you can choose from 20 different award-winning courses. Some of those courses include the Gary Player Designed Blackmore Golf Club and Rivers Edge, on Golf Digest, top 100 courses. Book your golf package at Myrtlebeachgolf.com. Package includes free replays, lodging, and free breakfast starting at just $290 per golfer for

three rounds and three nights. Lodging options include oceanfront villas, golf villas, and condos. So visit Myrtlebeachgolf.com. Yeah, Trent, I noticed you've been, it sounds like you're doing a little kind of therapeutic, just grinding where you're going to the course, you're going to the range, you're just kind of working on the game. I feel like that's probably better for you than being in fucking Manhattan. Yeah, it's much better. And, you know, like Frankie said, having a place where you can just go and hit balls and put and play nine holes in an hour and a half if you want to. Again, it's the most obvious thing in the world, but it just, it helps way, way more. You feel way more comfortable. And yeah, you know, when I was living in Manhattan, you know, it was an hour and a half trek to wherever we were going. We play for five hours and then it would be another out. Like, it's a full day if you live in Manhattan. So the move out to Long Island has.

paid dividends in a lot of ways and golf is certainly one of them where I'm just what? Sorry, I thought you were about to end at that sentence. I was going to say, since you're out here

and you're only a couple of minutes away, do you want to help me get a mattress upstairs once this recording's over? Because I got this fucking guest room that it's just sitting right there in the front of my house, right in the middle of my house, right when you walk in,

there's a fucking mattress. And we couldn't bring it up last night because like we're all weak. Everyone in this house is weak. put in a tough spot here. Can you say no? Can you just come over and just with this thing up? Let me say a few things before I get to my answer.

All the things that I were saying that were positives about getting out of Manhattan, I get to play more golf, I get to drive my car around, I can go to restaurants that are just like 10 minutes away. I hop in my car and I go. It's all great. And my apartment is much nicer than my Manhattan apartment. one of the downsides is being this close to Frankie Borelli and being asked on the number one golf podcast in the world

if I'll go over there and help him move a mattress. It's one of those nightmare turns up the stairs too. Like, oh, man. You're doing really doing a great job. Comes along with a thousand curse words on the way up. You got to squeeze it somehow. It's a fuck. You got to squeeze it.

And it's one of those really, really soft mattresses. So it doesn't really. It's like, it's almost like goo. but then it's so heavy. It's so fucking heavy. I mean, you're really selling it for me to get over there. But yes, once this podcast is over, I will come over and we will move that mattress. Thank you.

What a guy. The best. That's really nice. That is really nice. Colorado. So this is a call to Colorado. We need a Denver area golf course for a little scramble that we're doing. Turns out the two that we're really trying to hone in on.

One's closed for a club championship. And the other's just being tough to work with, it seems like. So I feel like a quick little announcement. All of a sudden, we'll get a million recommendations and invites, which is what we're looking for. So next month, I'm not going to say the exact date, but really good crop of human beings, eight people playing golf, four against four.

It's going to be a hell of a day. And we're looking for a golf course to host us. So reach out, let us know. And then we can go from there. Colorado is my number one state. It's my number one state of all 50. I don't want it to slide down the rankings because we don't get a golf course in a month. But it's the best state in my humble opinion.

Really good spot. It just feels fresh. It feels gorgeous when you just say it when somebody says Colorado. I feel like the images that pop in one's head are positive fishing, streams running through mountains, fresh, crisp air, like with a little hint of pine. It's just Colorado's fantastic. I agree. We're going to be there in September, which is a really nice time of year. So, yeah.

So yeah, that just got me pretty hyped up for that. to be honest, we're Trent today. Well, Colorado love. I love it. My parents live in Colorado. Shout out to my parents. I got family out there too.

We got Roy McRoy through a remote-controlled golf ball into the water at the BMW championship this past weekend. What a video. I saw this puppy has like three million views from one person that tweeted it out. What a video. Some just ass clown in the crowd had some remote control golf ball. He's messing, trying to mess with people on the green, which is a preposterous move during PJ Tour event.

it really reminded me that we've talked a lot about how incredibly reliable golf spectators have been for the most part and that there are just thousands of people around T-boxes around greens and again for the most part people don't fuck up the actual happenings of golf which is a quiet sport if someone were to just burst out in noise or in movement or whatever it would stick out and it could affect the overall outcome and thus the history of the game of golf and it just rarely happens. You see the occasional thing. It usually gets blown up on social, but it very rarely happens. This was as preposterous of a move as I've ever seen. Remote control, remote control golf ball on the green. Rory, he's with Scott Stallings too at the same time. And Rory pulled what I would say,

a very risky move, which is he went after the golf ball because you really set yourself up for extreme failure. It's like when you're an asshole kid on a, on a, you know, hockey trip and you're in the airport and you'd throw a dollar bill out there with some dental fuss on it and the crew walks by you yank it you set yourself up to be uh looking like a total fucking asshole and rory could have easily just ignored that golf ball been like nope i'm not going to be that guy he went after it like a cat chasing a mouse and he had a few spots where it took him a couple but boy he fucking grabbed it he tossed it in the water he got a giant ovation risky move great result Rory threw a controlled golf ball into the water.

You bring up a great point. I don't think I go after that thing. There's no way. Rory is a world-class athlete. I know he's a golfer. Put yourself. He's an athletic specimen. Bro, the clips of me going after a remote control ball,

tripping over my feet, landing on my face. And then people are like, well, now we're going to bring remote control golf balls to every single tournament that Trent plays in because he's going to try and go out to this thing like an idiot and he's going to fall in his face. Rory, like you said,

luckily he was able to grab it. Very funny move to just throw into the water. Like if you had said to me, here's a scenario that's going to happen. A remote control golf ball is going to be on the green while Roy McElroy is on the hole and he catches the ball. What is he going to do with it? I would say Roy is like he would act somewhat amused

and then he'd give the ball back, be like, don't do that. I love the route of just throwing it in the water and being like, don't fucking do that. That's super annoying. The clip is great. But yeah, risky move to go out for the ball. I'm glad it ended up the way that it did. The fact that there's water there, save the whole thing.

I mean, if there's no water, I don't know what you do with the golf ball once you have it. Like you put it in your golf bag. Like, how do you stop this? Yeah, you eat it. But I agree. He kind of, he takes the best route possible because he smacks it a few times in his club to kind of like, you know, jostle the thing. Because if you're just going after it and you're doing like the classic, like your dollar bill blows away and you constantly keep bending down for it, you make a complete and utter fool of yourself. but if you like stomp on it or hit it a little bit and then down down to get it,

you know, you really, you safe face on that because if it does, if you miss a bend down, then you look like a clown, yeah, then you're, then it's all over social. And these balls are coming at you like hot cakes each and every time you step on a green. So I think it was pretty perfect. He smacked it a few times, slowed it down or just confused the little ball, and then he threw it in the water. So Rory's just undefeated by us. Also the way he looked at the guy, because the guy,

standing on the edge of the green. I never really seen anything like it. Like no one's like pushing him away. He's just standing there with his phone. Like look at this golf ball and like moving it around. Rory's staring at him like look at this loser. Like I'm just going to take this ball and toss it in the water real quick. It was actually a really funny clip. We guys aware that remote control golf balls like this existed? I think in theory I would imagine that it would exist but I never thought about it actually being a thing that someone would buy and bring to a tournament. Someone told me about it recently actually. I think it was like the crew that we played with with

Joey La Cava, that guy Patty Nolan, I think he was telling me that he had one or something and someone like got so good at it that he was like putting it in the hole and like a whole crowd was like everyone on the green is like what the fuck just happened? Like the ball went to the back of the green and just started rolling in.

Like you replace it when you're on the green. It's just like you just put it into the hole. You get so good at it that just finds all every time. Something my dad needs. If I give my dad that, he'd get so good. good at it. It'd be crazy. He'd get so much better at practicing that than the actual game of golf just to find the way, like the right speed. Frankie, how's the, have you guys had some good,

like, debrief conversations about Pebble and, like, you guys, you and your pops, like, telling people at the dinner table about the whole, like, Pebble trip and everything. Yeah. Yeah. He's been, like, in another world being able to recap it off. Yeah. It's all so new to him. For us, for me, it's like, I was just trying to show him it. So people have already heard, like, my experience is a pebble a million times and like i'm like it's just not a real place and for him to be like i actually didn't know this place existed like the whole monterey peninsula and all and especially mccc which is of course he didn't even know existed like that stuff to him was so cool and um but yeah it was it's been a lot of fun and i have so many videos on my phone i have to get it to brend and

we're just going to make a little video out of it because i got like from beginning to end at least his reactions and some good shots and his post round reaction so It could be cool to watch a guy's first experience at Pebble. It's a really cool place. And the more I talk to people about it, I don't know that anyone's ever played it in that marine layer. I mean, every hole felt like it was being lifted up by the clouds. And all you could see was one hole at a time. It was actually a wild experience.

Like eight, you could only see eight at the time. You couldn't see nine, ten, or anything. You just saw eight. And it was like the clouds were around the green and going around the cliff. It was wild. It was like everything was fucking highlighted. You just saw a green golf course and just clouds. Like you were playing in heaven.

It was wild. Did you guys get to, like did you go look at it another time when it wasn't the marine layer? So that he got, did he see some of it? He never got to see Pebble with no true marine layer. The day before when we had the hay, you definitely saw, you can see the water. The marine layer wasn't as thick that day. But he never got to see that. like huge mountain behind Pebble, like the one that's behind seven.

That's never been seen by him. That's crazy. So next year he'll see that. But MPCC, it was beautiful blue skies and no marine layer at all. So he saw a 17 mile drive and that whole coastline that whole day, which was amazing. We actually before Pebble, we drove up like the big sir. It's like 30 minutes away. We saw nothing.

It was so funny. It was literally like, it was like someone was holding up a white like bed sheet and be like, no, you can't. You actually can't see this. He's like, this is ridiculous. He's like, it's like going to see the fucking Eiffel Tower and then having a cardboard box over it. This is insane. It's crazy.

It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. But, no, it honestly gave me a good excuse to make it a tradition and just keep going back. And like next year, if we do it again, like, it's almost like he's playing Pebble again for the first time. Yeah. You're totally different experience in the sun. Or it becomes one of those

Like every year you guys go It's a marine layer every time It becomes a funny storyline We also were getting that thing Like Joe and all the guys And we were playing with the next day We're like this is the worst weather of the year Like they're like 361 other days

It's been perfect Like they're like we've had a drought And then when we were out of MPCC It rained for a little bit Everyone's like what's happening right now Never they like rain in August? Incredible.

Yeah, because like, you know, maybe the best part of a bucketless trip is just talking about it for the rest of your life. Yeah.

And just rehashing it. People ask you about what you did on this hole and everybody's like, oh yeah, that's like the best part of the whole fucking thing. Did I tell you guys,

because I told Trent, I hit my, on seven, I hit it 20 yards. I chunked it. Yeah. I think he saw that in the text or whatever. Oh, for four.

Yeah. It's crazy. It's actually the, worst mental hole I could ever imagine having. It's my bugaboo. I can't, I can't overcome it. Dude, I shot at 82 a pebble, ball and hole, played great. I was chipping like a fucking master.

I hit shots from 100 yards in off the fairway until like within a foot, tap in birdies, pars. I get up to seven. I take a 54 degree. It was playing 89 yards, as the caddy said. It was playing 89, 90 yards. I take a 54 degree because I could probably take a 60 degree and take a full swing, but I just didn't want to do that. So I'm like, I'm going to do my checkdown 54 degree.

I'm going to hit it nice and low. It's going to hit the middle of the green and spin right next to the hole. The pin was right in the middle. I felt really good on top of the ball. And I just deceled like you wouldn't believe. I almost double hit it. It hits so behind the ball that it chunked. And then the fucking caddy had to take out his pinned range finder and give me a reading from 65 yards out.

That's a harder shot than the T shot. Oh, yeah. I put it in the bunker. And then I splashed a bunker. shot that sat on the edge almost made a three. Oh, so you made four. Not bad. I made a four of my, and I was doing this for a four play verse.

And then my dad, I forgot to tell my dad to record the bunker shot. And then we never did the final. So I ended up having to do another hole. We fucked it up. It would have been a great video. Oh, fuck. Unreal. That's going to be a great video anyways.

All your footage. Yeah. Yeah. It's good stuff. All right. We got more, we got to break down what happened in this meeting. So Trent and I, I would say, did a great. job of just discussing everything leading up to the meeting last time, but no information from the

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Tiger Woods and Ricky Fowler flew in for the whole thing. It was basically Tiger and Rory MCing, it seems like. And, you know, for deeper reason, I think, than was originally let on, because clearly these guys for more than a year, it sounds like, have been working on joint ventures, basically in completely different formats than anyone would expect. One of those that came out of this is a stadium series where it's not on green grass.

It's completely kind of different. It's a gamification meets real golf in a stadium with live audiences. We don't have all the details, but Golf Week put out quite a bit of that. It says Tiger Woods and Roy McRoy are spearheading a new venture that will have the world's top golfers competing against each other in a non-green grass stadium environment. Golf Week has learned multiple sources, say a series of events

will be held in partnership with the PGA Tour and that more specifics could be announced by Commissioner Jay Motahan this week at the Tour Championship. And then this was kind of paired with news from Alan Shipnuck and the Fire Pit Collective Boys posted last week on like Thursday, or Wednesday right after the meeting, that 60 players could play in an 18-18-event, no-cut series on the PGA tour featuring $20 million purses each, kind of a tour within the tour.

Notably, the tour has already announced eight events on next year's schedule will feature an elevated status and include purses of $20 million. One thing that I found interesting, it says any ideas discussed at this meeting could potentially be brought to PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monaghan. and who was not in attendance. So this is sort of Tiger Woods basically just assume the duties, it sounds like, of PGA Tour Commissioner, at least within a pretty specific exclusive group of players.

And Rory McElroy's quote afterwards where he said Tiger Woods is clearly the alpha was fantastic as well. What a cool time for to be a PGA tour player. I know a lot of it feels negative, like it's all coming apart or whatever. But to me, it's very similar. like when we get an email, not very similar. It couldn't be more opposite, but for in my life, when we get an email about like new benefits at work or something, where you'll get that like barstool people email, I'd be like, oh, the thing that we always do is now changing and it might be getting better.

Like we might get a 401k match now or something like that. Like things are just getting better. Like we're progressing. We're moving forward. Everyone on the PGA tour is just sitting around being like, yeah, like things are just like getting cooler. We're going to play in stadiums now. There's so much more money available. Like everything is just getting better than it was last year.

this is fucking nuts. I got Tiger Woods flying in and just like coming to meetings and talking to us about how cool this job is. Like this job is so much better than it was six months ago. It's insane. So I just think it's been a big positive for the PGA tour if you're an actual player. Like how can you not like what's going on right now? No, we talked about that a little bit on the last show where the leverage that Phil

Mickelson wanted to create is still there for the people who are still on the PGA tour. Like you don't have to leave the tour. to have to create this leverage. That leverage has been created. And now, like you're saying, Frankie, you can just make the PJ Tour better for yourself. You can make those changes from the inside and just be like, oh, yeah, a year ago, we didn't have this or the persons weren't this. And now we have been put in a position where we can leverage for that to happen. And the chances are that it's going to happen because Jay and everyone associated with the PJ Tour wants things to be better so guys don't jump over to.

live. So what you're saying is right, like if you stuck around with the PJ tour, like if you're still there and you are just hanging around and like, man, I wish something would change for the better on the tour. Now it's just happening. An opportunity has presented itself where the thing that you already were pumped to be a part of is now just going to get even better. Like it's a great spot to be in. Yes, a guy like Patrick Cantlay. Like, hey man, like you like what's been going. Obviously, I fucking love this. Like this is the best time ever. I'm going to keep making $30 million a year. year playing on this tour. I have less competition.

I don't even have to play against Cam Smith and all these guys. This is insane. This is what happened? He's like, I was, I was happy with it last year. He's like, I won the tour championship last year.

I was happy with everything. Why is this getting better? I don't understand just because Bryson went over. Like, why is this getting so much better? Real alpha move by Tiger too, like leadership or the PGA tour like corrows at all. I mean,

like, that's the biggest place. Oh, how much shit do you think he talked in that room about Liv and Oh, my God. Just Phil. Oh. Phil was getting dragged through the absolute shitter by Tiger Woods.

Like an absolute dagger and the whole crowd just kind of laughs. Like, oh, man. That's bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because, like, I mean, I'm sure he was just knocking on, like, brands and how people are thought of now. And, like, this room, special group. We're going to go forward with this.

A little weird about Jay, kind of like not being there, not being a pivotal piece of it. You know, it's like sometimes, I guess maybe you got to let the locker room talk. coaches will say like, hey, players, you handle this. So maybe not too too much. But yeah, I mean, that's the move. Tiger flies in. They basically have this meeting 30 minutes away from the BMW champion. So it's like perfect spot, easy for the players, all good things.

And yeah, things are just getting better. At the end of the day, like Jay Monaghan works for the players, right? Like the PGA tour is made up of the members. And they really as a collective group sort of make the decisions, which always gets tricky. It's just like that with Goodell and the owners in the NFL where it's like he works for them, but like they kind of want him to dominate other, you know,

parts of their group in certain moments. But does Jerry Jones actually run the show more than the, you know, it's like pretty similar in this regard. But Tiger Woods is Tiger Woods. And that's, you know, we talked about it in the golf sphere a million times of like actually playing golf when he's the needle and how the ratings change, how the entire event changes,

how when I was at the Wyndham Championship a couple weeks ago, you know, the thing that was probably highlighted the most was never any one of their winners in particular. It was the fact that Tiger Woods played one year. And you're like, oh, fuck, that's like makes your whole event. It's awesome. So now thinking about how impactful he is and then, you know, pluck him out of that environment and into this one, he clearly carries just more weight on an individual basis than the rest of the entire tour combined than every employee of the PGA tour combined. And I think that one thing that he and Rory,

I'm sure, were invoking in this meeting and have been invoking the entire time, is that they have the opportunity to be for the PGA tour what Arnold Palmer was, right? When he is like known for shaping the PGA tour and creating the Arnold Palmer Invitational and Bay Hill and like championing the PGA tour

to become what it is today, this is their pivotal, moment, their crossroads to become that as well. And I know if Tiger and Rory and J.T. and Morikawa are as committed to legacy as they are, right? Like I can understand this being a huge appeal to Tiger to step up because he's obsessed with legacy. He cannot control his legacy as well on the course going forward as he would like, but he can control this aspect of it. He can be known as like Tiger Woods changed and took the reins of the PG. tour in 2022 when they were up against the big bad fucking Saudis and Tiger took the PGA tour

and was like, you're coming with me, motherfuckers. Here's what we're doing. And I think he knows that. I think he knows that he has that opportunity. That's why he gets off his fucking jet. I do wish he was dressed a little better. But that's why I mean, how iconic is it? He flies his private jet up to this meeting and like is considered and talked about by Rory McElroy as like the alpha guy that took over the meeting. I mean, that's his. iconic as it gets. Yeah, you can see too, like when they drove off, like, Ricky looked at Tiger. It seemed like, is like, is it always this crazy? Because he got in the passenger seat and like Tiger kind of like chuckled. But it seemed like Ricky was like, dude, what the hell is this? You just

move around. The world follows you in every direction watching like the way, you know, your legs certainly move, but like everything that you do. It seemed like a pretty funny interaction as they pulled out of the airport. Yeah. And I mean, Tiger, to the point this year, I mean, there were news helicopters videoing his pts a week before the PGA championship at Southern Hills. Like that is, that's fucking Tiger Woods, baby. And he's, I think now

he's sort of leveraging that. Like, yeah, I'm Tiger Woods. Like, that's right. I, do I like that news cameras are watching every punt I hit? No. But the fact that they are is why I'm able to now take the PGA tour and own it. And I think Jay Monaghan knows, right?

Like, he can't compete against Tiger fucking Woods, right? He wants to dummy Greg Norman. wants to kind of take the reins from other guys on tour. But he ain't going to be able to compete with Tiger Woods. So I do think he's probably embracing that from everything I've heard. The players and the folks involved in the player advisory council, they love Jay Monaghan. So I don't want to look too much into the fact that he was not present,

but it is interesting to note. Yeah, I mean, for a while here, it feels like Jay has been on skates a little bit, like what's actually going to happen? We don't know. And then all of a sudden, the most powerful voice in all of golf and will be until the day he dies is in his corner. Like, let him do whatever he wants.

If he wants to have a closed door meeting with all the best players in the world, let him do that. Let him walk into my office with whatever they decide and let him dictate where we're going to take the PJ tour. Jay can take all the credit and Jay can be out in front of it and pulling a press comments being like, we're going to make these changes and we're very excited about it. We've come to a decision. Even if he is just Tiger Woods's mouthpiece in that regard, especially, in this time right now where we're not in peace time. This is not a peace time for the PJ tour and live. This is a time where everybody's scratching and clawing for everything that they can

get. And Jay Monaghan has the biggest, most powerful gun in his corner. Just let it work and it'll end up working out because the generation that is behind Tiger Woods plays golf because of Tiger Woods and they are going to do whatever he sets. You want to know how big of an alpha this guy is? He's on the cover of PGA Tour 2K23 and he can barely walk down a fucking golf course right now. And it's a big deal. Huge deal. And you want to know how big, I also have breaking news in the gaming world right now. So today they announced a lot of the information for PGA Tour 2K23.

And I'm reading this live for the first time. Tiger Woods leads a roster of more than 14 male and female pros at launch, including Justin Thomas, Lexi Thompson, Tony Fina, Lydia Coe, Colomoracowah, Will Zalotaurus, Brooke Henderson, and more. Players can step into the T-box as one of the pros in exhibition multiplayer divot-derby or go head-to-head with them in a battle to climb the leaderboard and play the FedEx Cup in PGA Tour My Career mode. So you can officially play on a video game, in a video game with Tiger Woods.

You can play with fucking Tony Fee now, Justin Thomas, Lydia Coe. This is awesome. And then Nuclear Golf is announcing that Michael Jordan is a playable bonus character on PGA Tour 2K2030 that comes with the pre-ordered copies of any edition you can play with mj dude bro pg so this is what happens when tiger woods gets involved in things is my point he came on as like creative director on the player side for pgator 2k 23 and he's been feeding them all of his ideas that he's had apparently since he was the cover guy for the EA games like not that many people know but like he had a really big say in the way those games were built he always would

go to the meetings, he'd go to the development meetings, he'd want it the way that he wanted it, and the way that he would want people to be playing. And he loves video games. He plays a ton of video games. So he's like, no, these would be good. He looked at this. He looked at this game. PGA 2K23, we're going to end up playing 30 million hours of this game because we played 20 million hours of the last one. You can build your own golf courses. You can play divot derby, which is the coolest arcade game of all time. And now you can play with Michael Jordan. Sign me the fuck up. Well, listen, one of the weird things with the piece. DJ Tour 2K22 where JT was on the cover.

And people were excited about it because we hadn't had a golf game in a while. But then you got into it and the pros weren't playable characters, which if you ever played Tiger Woods, the EA game, which I played the 2007 version more than I'll ever be able to play a video game the rest of my life. I played that game so much. Me, my buddies, we just, we played it for 25 hours a day. You could play with the Tiger Woods in the game.

And that was part of the fun of it. like, holy shit, I get to play as Tiger Woods. So there was this weird stage with 2K22 where it was like, yeah, I'm excited. There's a golf game back, but I have to play with this chubby, create a character that I created that's in a black shirt and khaki. He's like, I want to tee it up as Eldrick Woods. I want to be able to fucking tear a golf course apart as Tiger. Seems like they're headed back in that direction.

And that's going to make everything different and everything better. And you can play as Michael Jordan, which is not something I ever thought would exist. But you can do that now. So it's everything is what Frankie is saying where Tiger Woods stepped into a room and was like, hey, you got to make me and Lydia Co. and Tony Fienow and Will's Al Torr's playable characters in the video game. And that is going to make all the difference. You're going to sell X more copies because that is what people want to do. So it's all good news. When Tiger Woods gets involved with something, he starts swinging his huge, powerful dick around and things get done in the right way. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. It changes the entire game, the fact that he's going to be involved. There's a interesting dynamic going on where an EA game is coming out too. And the EA game has like the golf courses. So I think it has like PGA tour courses and it has like Augusta. I think it has Augusta. Yeah. And so there's going to be the fact that there's two like competing games kind of coming out. One of them is Tiger Woods basically versus just everything else in the world of golf. is an amazing dichotomy going on. And then I want to shout out the nuclear golf.

That's just the tracker community. And they just do it for the love of the game. So we got to shout those guys out. I'll never forget Dave following Lowry tracker and then getting into it with Lowry tracker. He wasn't tracking properly. And this tracker community. And again, it's just pure passion.

They just do it because they fucking love these guys that they follow. And they get into it with each other. They have huge like tracker drama. like one guy isn't meeting the standards and isn't like happy with the leadership in the tracker community. So they'll like announce that they're leaving a certain group. It's incredible. So whatever those guys are doing fantastic. And when I hear that we're sourcing, nuclear golf on some sort of announcement, I couldn't be happy. That's like that's, I want to do every show where we just base everything we talk about on the show off of whatever nuclear golf

reports. I agree. Shout out to nuclear golf. What do you guys think it costs 2K to get Tiger Woods on the cover of that video game. Like are we talking that's the, he was able to turn down $800 million from Live because he got $800 million from 2K on the cover? Because it makes all the difference. And he has the most leverage. He's like, I had the most popular golf video game

in the world for a decade, however long a decade and a half. Now you guys want me to make my dramatic return to be on the cover because that alone is going to sell so many copies. Like what is the asking price for 2K and Tiger Woods for a video game? I bet you he's really tied into the rev share too. It's like every game sold. It's like, yeah, I know you guys made the game and did all the work.

But like I'm going to take 90% of all profits from every game sold. And like you can just figure out the other 10% like I'm sure it's pretty outrageous. And to that point like, yeah, that's why you don't like, I guess shoot the like the people that got you there. Like EA now has to be like, dude, I know you made some mess up. a couple years ago and maybe there's some brand imaging we wanted to work on. But to cut ties and not have your horse be on the... Because then, you know, he was growing up, like 2K was always kind of like you felt like

the worst or like the knockoff game from EA. But like you put Tiger on the cover and the whole world changes. And obviously the game that came out with last year was really, really solid. But I think it's just he just takes the lion's share of all profits. It has to be with some sort of like locked in fee of $100 million minimum. and then if it goes over that, which it will, he just gets 90%. I don't know, something crazy, though.

It is a tough, like if you're EA, you don't see this resurgence coming, right? Because, you know, he goes through what he goes through his entire scandal, and then he's hurt, so he's not playing as much. And they decide to be like, all right, we're going to just grab on the next guy. We're going to put Rory on the cover, and we're going to go forward with him.

And you think, all right, that Tiger Woods decision is never going to come back and bite us, because he's just going through it. And then he has this second half resurgence where he wins the Masters. He wins the Masters. He wins a bunch of tournaments. He becomes this Yoda-like figure to the guys on the PJ Tour. Not only does he become that, but he embraces it.

He has a softer personality where he actually wants to bring everybody together. He's now holding meetings without the PJTor Commissioner to be like, let's all come together and make this thing the best it can be. And then 2K is like, you want to be on our video game? And EA's like, fuck. Yeah. I'm trying to, I'm trying to pin down this number because I'm, people are throwing around a hundred million, which seems like an unbelievable number

to pay somebody for this video game. Um, and I have no idea if it's a million. If it's a hundred million, I got no idea. But I looked up Madden, 2022 did just over seven million copies sold. And I don't know exactly what it costs, but I feel like when those games are new, they're like 60 bucks. Is that right? Yeah.

Somewhere around there. Yep. Right. So that would be. I mean, that would be what? In the $400 million range that they would do in total revenue, that's Madden, which Madden is as big as it gets pretty much when it comes to like sports video games, right?

So if that's $400 million in revenue, even if they did like a fourth of that, that would be, you know, around $100 million in total revenue. It might not be crazy that like they hinge Tiger Woods being worth $50 million of that. Yeah. Well, I mean, because without it, it's like you have nothing. So it's like, you know, like, it's like, okay, yeah, create your game and you'll sell, you know, $10 million. And you can split $10 million up or I join it.

And instantly, maybe we sell $50 to $75 million. So it's like, clearly I have between like $40 and $65 million with a value for this game. I also think that they went far and beyond their expectations of PGA toward 2K22. I think that it was supposed to be like their first iteration of this new 2K game. Like it used to be HB Studios, PGA Tour, was never really licensed by it. It was called like the Golf Club 2019. Yeah. And then 2K takes it over, which 2K might make more money from MBA 2K than Madden does on EA.

So like 2K is massive. If you look at their releases, I think NBA 2K is the biggest selling video game of all time. So, and I could be wrong about that. Video game lovers are probably going to get really mad that I just said that. But I think it's up there. I really do. I think NBA 2K is like the biggest selling franchise like ever. But now 2K takes over HB Studios, which was this little small, I think like British Columbia

studio company that was making this really, really niche video game for golfers that like it was more for the people that wanted to build their golf courses. It was like a golf course building simulation. Like you know how Vazad. does, like, his train simulators, like the L-I-Double R fucking trains that, whatever. And then, like, there's a lawn mowing simulator now that people just go mow their lawns. So that's what it was. And then 2K puts all this money in, but I don't think they put that much money in.

And they sold a shit ton of fucking copy. So they're like, oh, my God, we have this influx of cash now. Let's go, like, double down and get the greatest player of all time, which I don't even think that they had to pay that much for them. I don't think it would be in the $100 million, $50 million range. I feel like it would be like, I feel like they're telling him, hey, this is going to be the next 10 years of this game. And they probably gave him ownership stock in like that game. Yeah.

Like I said, with Lurch, like I could see a fee of a million dollars or somewhere around there. And then like a rev share based on hitting certain tranches where, you know, if it's over this, about you get this. I could see something along those lines, which still is potentially going to net him like millions of dollars for probably a very minimal commitment. Like I bet he does a few days of the year. he stays plugged in for the meetings here and there, but it's like probably less than a week of like actual work throughout the year. And he just is licensing his name and his likeness.

And all of a sudden it just drives millions of dollars in sales. Right. It's also. So yeah, do you guys follow PGA Tour 2K on Instagram? Yeah. I mean, like their last like five posts are just Tiger Woods. And then the like the actual caption of, you know, or the title side of the video game is just Tiger Woods face and it's very cool painting.

I mean, he's got to be, he's worth everything to the game. The game is nothing. If he goes back to EA, EA's not just a video game again. Yeah, but it's like that's not the, that's not true at all. That's just so, like, you're just saying that because you don't know how big it was last year. It was massive last year. Like they had leverage. I think they had leverage more than you think.

If Tiger Woods goes back to EA and now it's just Tiger Woods 2023 on EA sports again, you don't think that's the top selling game. It probably is, but I don't think that 2K is nothing without it. I think they were the biggest and only golf game for the last four years, that iteration of it, whether it was the golf club and now 2K. Trent's got to get this point in. Well, I was going to say a lot of the success of that game, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. A lot of the success of the game was word of mouth of how great the game was.

We love J.A.T, but it had nothing to do really with, Justin Thomas being on the cover. What happened was they put out this golf game that people weren't expecting and it end up being great. I know the pros weren't playable players. But like the game is great and the course creation is great. Like it has great aspects of it where it had momentum. And then like Frankie's saying, I think they took that momentum and we're like,

what if we piled Tiger Woods on top of that, who has a history of putting out great video games? games. When he puts his name on a video game, people are going to play it because they know it's great. And we already have a great video game. So with the EA one, yeah, Tiger Woods can put his name on it, but people just haven't been talking about an EA golf game in a very long time. So yeah, you can put Tiger Woods as the figurehead on it and people are going to buy it. But I do think with the engine of 2K being a great golf game, that is what's going to sustain it. And you put Tiger Woods on top of that, you've got a motherfucker of a video game.

Also, Tiger Woods probably told the EA to go fuck themselves because they dropped him. Definitely that. Yeah. Moment of like when everyone was dropping him and he's like, I'm out of here. I'm never going back to you. So I think 2K had a ton of leverage. I was looking up if they dropped him right away or if it took a few years. Either way, they did drop him.

I imagine Steinberg doesn't like that. I imagine Tiger Woods and Mark Steinberg hold receipts. I imagine that they are a bit, you know, vengeful when it comes to that kind of stuff. So yeah, they were like, fuck you. So that might have given, honestly, 2K some leverage too. I'm like, we know you hate them. Why don't you join us?

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I don't know, you know, but that just validates that it's a significant income source for him to be part of this game. Shout out Wils out of Taurus for being a playoff. character. That'll be really cool. I like the, it's just a random good athlete in there. Like, that's the kind of guys that I used to go after when I was playing the old EA games. You loved playing with Tiger Woods for sure. But like, you played with like a Colin Montgomery or someone. You're just like, yeah, this is just a random. I just played with like J.B. Holmes. It's just like, I used to love that stuff. Yep. It was always fun too when you did like the

tournament or the career like year or whatever to have real names on the leaderboard that like you were contending as like, you know, Frankie Lefty takes on the field. It was always good to see a bunch of real people in there. Do you see what Zalotor said about Scott Fawcett? No. I don't remember the quote entirely, but right on the top

he said, Scott Fawcett is not a paid member of the Zalotor's team. So it's just trying, like, he's trying to distance himself. And I think during the quote he was like, you know, I don't approve of any of the messaging that he put towards Dan Hicks and I

texted Dan Hicks on the side being like, you know, this isn't how I feel. So I think all I think on that show, Frankie was like, I wonder how Will feels about this. He feels that he is cutting ties with Scott public. Fuck man. I don't know what to do with this video. Oh yeah. Hold on. Yeah, let me, you're right. I personally reached out to Dan Hicks and Brad Faxson. Echoed that I don't condone what he said. Any interviews he's given have been unauthorized. He has tried to reach out to me and I have not spoken to him. I'm thankful to him for everything he helped me with and the ups and downs of junior golf, but those statements are not a reflection of my values for me. What are you going to do, Frankie? You're going to release a similar statement? It's just tough, man. It's like, why? It's like we

should have got this video out faster, but we can't because it's- Or put it out right now. This might be the best time. Put it out. He's actually a normal dude in the video. It's just he's a fucking lunatic. He's been very normal with us many times. He's been. great but those yeah you can't he texted us on the side being like you guys gonna let me on the show now or what we're like no he's just not let you're not you don't get to just do whatever you want it's also the defense of like hey the defense is like i need to like those tweets are being like taking out of i need to come and kind of talk about they're not like no those tweets are your words that's what you said you like there's no out of context you tweeted them knowing the context

like that's what and then he was like and then he almost like threatened me where he's like I like spent money to come to your video and like help your venture. But it's like, dude, the whole video is one huge decade golf commercial. I mean, we are literally using the slides from your website and your app on every single frame of the video. So we can not put that out if you don't want. And then we'll like pay for his flight or whatever. I don't know. It's like I'll gladly do that.

I mean, it could get messy if we wanted to get messy. I don't want it to get messy. I just want to put out the video and show people how I went from a 10 to a 5 because he helped me a lot. Scott Fawcett helped me a lot. He really did with aiming. Dude, it's been all aiming. He helped your game. Look, it's a weird spot because we had him on the show.

He was great on the show. We had interactions with him where he's been great. But man, he can lose it a little bit. And that's tough to defend. And clearly Will Zalotaurus felt the same way. Which is also fine. You can be a wild boy on Twitter. It's just then don't like, like, don't put that burden on us every time.

Like if that's the type of person you want on Twitter and he does, bro, I sat down and had lunch with him and he's like, I've gotten in all these altercations on Twitter and Instagram. He's like, I don't think like my sense of humor translates to Twitter. And like the things I try and say, like if I said them in person, it wouldn't come off as bad as they do on Twitter. Like I guess him saying, fuck you, Dan Hicks. Like, I don't know. I guess he thinks that we read that in a different way than he's actually trying to come across. He is a ball buster. Like I it's weird like he doesn't really get

How to come off on Twitter I will give him that like he's he would say that same thing at like he'd be like oh fuck you Dan Hicks This guy knows exactly what he's doing you know what I mean It's different than like hey Dan Hicks Fuck you and your family and the horse you wrote on whatever the fuck weird Dude says look at this tweet this tweet though It's an insane tweet he said I really do try to bite my tongue with the commentators But go fuck yourself Dan Hicks with six exclamation points

Putter was wobbly earlier this year You have no idea what the truth is Fuck face Sit in the boot And then Open parenthesis Yes this is a joke But there's always truth in comedy

Smiley face So it's like Yeah I just he just doesn't get it's not a joke No I know You go fuck yourself Fuck face That's not good Like if he thinks that's a joke

He also has to think That people are going to take it Extremely seriously And they're just going to take it their own way You can't have it both ways So it is what it is like I don't hate him as a person. I bet you Will's Alatoris doesn't hate him as a person.

He probably knows the same type of person he is. He's probably like, fucking Scott just can't get off Twitter. And I just like can't publicly announce that I'm like with him anymore. And now you don't think like his madness like we have to just part ways with this guy. He's just like calling out all your commentators for your PJ Tour. And the thing is he's got a great product. Like it's a product that's fascinating.

Yeah. Pros use it. It's fascinating. And like, yeah, you can have a live wire. the head of a company like but you can't and then like let it hurt the perception of you which will then hurt the perception of the company like him being like fuck you fuck face and him thinking it's comedy but ever but justin thomas is like dude this isn't comedy you're being fucking asshole

right i fly off the handle all the time but i've never gotten to the point where i'm just calling people fuck faces on twitter maybe like maybe like burner accounts to tell them to like go fucking Right, not real conversations where you just go off the wall to something. Right. It's like, in those instances, like, those people deserve to be called fuckfaces and it is kind of funny. In this instance, he's just like didn't like what Dan Hicks said about his putting earlier in the year. So now he's calling him a fuck face publicly. You're like, whoa.

I mean, that's just not that's not apples to apples. That's a, that's an escalation that we think is not warranted in this situation. So we're going to agree with your tweets. I'm still going to put the fucking video out. There's no reason why I should hide that. He's a good, it's really good, I think. It's fucking, it's like, I think it's going to be great for him. I think he's going to get a lot of love.

Like that stuff is fucking fascinating. When he came on the show and talked through a lot of the data points and a lot of what it's all derived in, it's absolutely fascinating. Yeah, it is. It really is. Whatever. Of course, this all happens. I get locked out of houses at fucking Pebble Beach. And the one guy I work with for this new fucking series, at least Dr. Brett McCabe is a fantastic.

human being. That guy just keeps punching out a weird fucking Disney quotes on Twitter. Nobody tweets differently from Scott Fawcett than Dr. Brett McKay. He's just the nicest guy of all time just down there in Alabama just tweeting out Pocahontas quotes and motivational shit.

And then you got Scott Fawcett just being an absolute lunatic. God. Do we have a lock update by the way? A what? A lock update? Yeah. It's a lock update. Oh, I thought you're talking about like the series. I was like, what the fuck's a lock update?

Yeah, the update is that I couldn't figure it out. So I'm now in New York. The house is in California. And I mean, we figured it out to the level where it's like everything. The place is Fort Knox. No one's getting in. It's locked up like you wouldn't believe. So much so that if you just have a door closed behind you, you can't get in. Like you can't even physically think about getting in. So it's all done. I've given him. Josh has been amazing through all. all this. He's like laughing through it all, being like, like listening to the show. He left me like, he's like calling me and being like, what's actually happening? And I've been bad about it because I have crazy anxiety when it comes to this stuff. Like you should have seen me

when else with my dad. I ruined that day for my dad at Pelham Beach, like the first half of that day. Because I'm like, we're fucking staying here and we locked out. Now you're like drilling through people's doors. My dad's like, I'm not doing any of that. Like I'm just trying to get into the house. What other option do we have? He's like, you're wearing no clothes. We got to get in. He's like, it's like, it's fucking free. crazy out of here. We got to get into the house. I don't know. He didn't leave us a fucking key for this thing. I'm like, I don't know, dad, but now we're at somebody else's house and we're like making home improvements. I was like under my breath. I'm like, I didn't think we were

making home improvements at fucking Josh's house today. I thought we were just playing Pebble Beach. Like it's just crazy how much and then he's like you have to text him dude. I'm like, I can't. I can't tell him what's happening. I'm like, we'll figure it out next week. He's like, you can't do that. You have to let him know. So I like text him this whole thing. He called me. He's like, I'm not reading all that. What's happening? I'm like, I don't know, man. It just fucking happened. Here's the name of the company that can fix it, like, the day you get there. And it is what it is? He's like, all right, no problem. That's like, fuck. I just thought that like, if that happened to me, I'd think what is this fucking idiot doing at my house? Like, why do I need to get a new lock? But I don't think. I'm sure he was thinking that. I'm sure. I mean, he's not going to say that to your face. But yeah, I bet he's absolutely thinking that. I'm sure I'm going to hear about it at the DadBod classic if I'm invited to get it. I'm invited to get it. I'm. I might not be invited ever again.

Yeah, your shirt's, you're just like, your gear is going to have probably a lock embroidered on it, you know, and you just have to that. You'll be the lock guy for the rest of the way. I kind of like that. I really like that. And is what it is. Torch Championship. So Patrick Cantley wins, BMW back to back years.

Looks like he's just going to vault and be the, be the, you know, FedEx Cup guy, which is incredibly lucrative. So smart move by him. We have the classic annual conversation that we have to have about what the leaderboard looks like going into Thursday because we have Scotty Sheffler is 10 under par currently. Patrick Cantley is 8 under, Will's Alatoris 7, Zander Shafley, 6, Sam Burns, 5. You got Smith, McElroy, Finaa, Straca, Lurch's guy, Sunjay M at 4 under. You got Rom, Stalings, JT, Cam Young, Matt Fitzpatrick, 3 under, Homa.

You got a bunch of guys, too, 1 under and even par. So here we are. We're in this spot where there's staggered scoring to begin the entire week. some people hate it some people love it i cannot get over the fact that it's just never done ever never in any format ever and then at the very end of the year and their super bowl of golf they just do this i just can't get over how ridiculous that is but here we are i i said last year i like that like this makes sense to me like it's not a point system i get it it's funky but like i don't hate it i'll i definitely do not hate this model it's definitely weird but i understand it and it's simple

I mean, I've always criticized it pretty heavy. But I feel like if this last six months to a year of golf has taught me anything, it's that professional golf, it felt like, none of this shit really matters. Like, it's all just kind of like who's making the most money. And like,

like I always look at it from a perspective of, I want, but I want the person who puts the best score to win these tournaments. But it's also, you know, Scotty earned it. It's weird. It's just weird.

And looking at somebody starting in a tournament at 10 under, you're just like, that's so stupid. But then if you go back a couple more years, we would say, I don't understand who's going to win this thing because there's not a clear cut. Like, if this guy wins, then he wins. It's a confusing convoluted system. So they changed it. They changed it in a way that I don't love where it's a guy gets to start 10 under par before even tease it up on Thursday. But if this is how we got to do it, this is how we got to do it. this is how we got to do it.

I don't know why they don't just start at zero. I don't know why they don't just start fresh. I can't wrap my head around it. I've never been able to wrap my head around it. Like, if it's a tour championship over the whole year, why are you prioritizing a guy who got hot, like, the last two weeks as opposed to, like, a Scotty Sheffler that, or like any of the guys that had really good weeks in the beginning of the year,

like, you're just, it's almost like you're prioritizing, like, the team that got really hot for, like, right at the playoffs. But then that's like its own championship. This is a tour season championship. I don't know. It's very strange. Just let them fucking start and win. It's like its own tournament.

I don't understand why the 25th guy can't have the same chance as the first guy. I guess like the best comparison is Formula One where it's like if you had the best season, you know, you might have a 20 point lead when you start, you know, the final race. Now, what's different about that and because people were making that point last year a lot. And what's not equitable in that is that like, yeah, but the last race, that person doesn't start like 20 seconds ahead of everyone else. That person, you still have to do qualifying in the last race. And you still then, based on qualifying, you might start in first position.

You might start in 10th position. It's that race is its own unique race where everybody starts at the same. So someone can win that final race if it's the Miami Grand Prix. Somebody can win that and have this iconic moment where they win that race. if you're JT. Posten and you're starting 10 shots behind Scotty, it's unbelievably unlikely that you're going to win the Tour championship at Eastlake, which would be an awesome monumental moment for your career. You're a PGA tour winner.

You get a bunch of money. It's great. And that is so weird to me because, again, never, ever in any other situation in golf, does someone start 10 strokes behind someone else? They're trying to avoid someone winning at Eastlake and then someone winning the FedEx, right? Yeah, which I Yeah Yeah, this avoids that

This model kind of this model avoids that Because it takes in all your voice and says you're an even It's just jarred But it does I don't get why they're so committed to Like avoiding that Who cares? Like people have brains

And they can be like yep This guy won the season long thing This guy won this particular tournament I like that's not like people's brains don't explode when that happens They're just like oh yep That makes sense Yeah but I guess the defense I would say is that the points model is gone and they never even talk about it until the last.

So like at least people are aware of basically if you're four under par you're better off and someone's two under par. And so people get that where it's like if you had those things going on simultaneously and like yeah, Riggs is six under par at Eastlake, but I've got more points. So like, you know, we've got two things going on. that model's proven that it didn't work and nobody knew what the hell was going on with that this is them conceding that the points thing never caught on and people don't do it yes that's correct that's right on because like they do all year they tell you like oh he's he's second in fedex cup points they flash that at the end of like the tournament and you're like fucking change the channel as fast as possible i don't give a fuck like fuck your fedex cup points and so this is now they got rid of them

At the last event, the biggest point of year when you would focus on FedEx Cup points, the only time it actually matters all year long, really is like they just get rid of them. And they just basically you cashed them in for strokes is essentially what happens. And like, and so now that's, they've conceded that like, yep, we tried the points thing for 15 years. Nobody liked it. Everybody hated it. They had fucking Steve Sands up there with a goddamn T.I.83 calculator and like a pointer. and like trying to tell you where everybody's at with this and that.

And now they've just conceded that that doesn't work. And they have given you strokes. And that's all you get to deal with. Their messaging stinks too because they don't talk to anybody about like, Riggs, when you just said at the end of the season, you cash your points in for strokes. Like if they came out and said that, I think people would understand that.

Well, the other thing that's beyond dumb, and I think the dumbest part of this whole translation, is that if Riggs is fine, thousand points above second place and just like an astronomic lead yeah well he still starts at 10 under and like second place is still eight under so those are like pre-bake points so it's like that's stupid in itself also so you cap it which right which is so dumb it's like if you shouldn't cap the leader they weren't cap a four under the points model like make him like 38 under par and everybody else is like even as long as he doesn't die out there he wins like

I get that. I mean, it loses all interest because you're like, he's just going to win this thing and nobody can come back off that league. Okay, if I'm 38 under to start the week, by the way,

and everyone else is even, do you think I, like, do I finish absolutely dead last? Or is there a chance I finish, like, better than 30th? Dead last.

Yeah, I think it's a lot. It's a lot. Four days of golf, dude. You got to shoot, like, insanely well, 80, 80,

80, and like on average, to go, what's that, 32 over? So then you're, yeah, you're six, you finish six under. You're smoked. Right. And that's playing really well. Right.

On a hard golf course. 7,400 yards, whatever it is, then 7600, dude. I mean, you're not going to shoot 80 from that distance. No, no. I'm going to shoot fucking a billion. Right. Even if I have two really good rounds and I shoot like 80 and then like my bad rounds, I'm going to shoot 100.

Like in tournament golf at Eastlake, you're like, fucking kidding me. Their distances really come to fuck you when it's on the par threes. Like some of these PGA tour par threes that are 255 yards away are just so mean. So mean. That's an auto five or six if you hit just one, if you have one bad swing. So yeah, 214 yards, 238 yards. Oakmont, what the eight, what hold? I think the eighth is 255. No, it's 301. 301, par three. We played when we, when we, were there a couple of weeks ago. Kiz hit driver.

Kevin Kisner literally hit driver onto the front middle part of the green. Crazy. Crazy. It's like, what are we doing, dude? What the, we played one T-box up and I hit three wood and like didn't get to the green. They hit a good one too. Sling TV.

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somebody goes obing and like he doesn't change his clubs like it was just it kind of a amazing because it's not professional they're not perfect they make mistakes. They hit some incredible shots. It was just absolutely fantastic at Ridgewood. So I'm not sure if anybody you caught up, but Sling was awesome. I didn't see any of the final yesterday.

I did catch it throughout the week because the amateur is such a grind. It's whatever, two or three rounds of metal play. And then they do four rounds of, of, is it six rounds? A ton of rounds of fucking match play. So it's a grind.

It's on TV all week long. We talked a good amount last week about the women's amateur, which was at Chambers Bay. That was awesome to watch because it's prime time. They're in West Coast time. It was awesome. I did get to catch Ridgewoods fantastic. And I loved that hole that they kept showing that the green looked like it was the narrowest

fucking green I've ever seen in my life. And guys were trying to drive it up there or hit wedges. And for whatever reason, every time I caught it on TV for a half hour, they just seemed to be coming to that hole. And we were just laughing out loud every time they showed it. Like, this whole looks unfucking playable. one that slanted like this. Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Crazy. Crazy. Bunkers all around it. But yeah, Colt and Smiley, those two do a phenomenal job. And they are playing in the Queen City classic that we're doing in Charlotte. Colt and Smiley have secured a team. So they will be out there. It's two-man scramble, I believe, is the format.

So they're, I mean, if they don't win, they're never allowed to play in an event ever again. They're both, I mean, they're both PGA tour. Colt won the fucking U.S. They're going to be in a dominant. They, yeah, the AM was cool. I watched a lot during the week, and then I did watch some. I definitely watched the closing yesterday. And it was, was it, whoever finished in second, like, he got it down to being one down going to the 36th hole.

And then, like, pushed one behind the trees. And you're just like, man, if that's a PGA tour pro, like, they both just pipe one right down the middle. But because it is an amateur, like, you don't know if, like, he has that moment to, like, drill one right down the middle, one going into the final all of the USAM and he just pushes him behind the trees he doesn't give himself a chance he's in the really thick rough at Ridgewood was insane um Colt was awesome he definitely had a different pep in his step announcing a USAM like because he's won one so it's like everything about what he was saying you could tell came from kind of like a cocky I've done it before where it's like a guy hit like on 18 the guy in the lead was it Hutton who ended up winning was it

what was his name it was uh Bennett Sam Bennett Bennett sorry um Bennett hit one down the middle and like Colt's like he did his job. It's like all right. Yeah, because like Colt did his job when he was on the like the last hole. So I love Colt, but you could tell he had a different swagger to him walking down those fairways. Like they showed him on camera a lot more. Like you saw him kind of meandering down the fairway with his little bat, his pack on.

Like it was definitely different. Doing the penguin war. It was a different. It was a different. It was a different. It's insane that he won the fucking US Amateur. Like, Colt. That is the biggest.

They said it a thousand. You want a major championship. Yeah. Dude. I mean, you look at the names that have won that thing and then you get, you're scrolling down. You get the cold notes. You're like, fuck it. Hey, man.

It's so good that he won the USA Amateur. Good for cold. And yeah, he's going to have, I mean, he carries himself with, like, sarcastic swagger, pretty much all the time anyways. And so then you get him at the fucking amateur where he's on the trophy. It's like as big as his dick could possibly get. So, yeah, he's going to be. Fans are screaming. You did this cold?

I sure did. Okay. All right. All right. That's great. Good for Cole. Yeah, awesome event. The amateur, we need to get, I need to get more hyped and, like, plan more around watching

the amateurs every year because they are as good as golf gets. It's so pure. It's real. That fucking trophy, if you win the U.S. Amateur, either one, women's or men, obviously, that's like, I mean, for a lot of people, that's as good as it can possibly fucking get. Yeah, it's a major championship. I mean, Jack Nicholas, to this day, considers his two amateur wins, like, major

he adds him to his major championship total. So Colt knows won a major championship. image. It's shocking. Absolutely shocking. Um, yeah, I have, uh, let's see from the U.S. Amateur is pretty much all I got. A&M guy, right? Yeah, Sam Bennett. Yeah, I was more of a fan of car coming down the stretch. He was more of like a gunslinger. Bennett seemed like as dialed in methodical just like his facial hair. Yeah, hated his facial hair. I also like, you know, he took quite a bit of time to hit the ball, but like, dude, what was that about? He just had to like get confident kind of over it, but he definitely had a lot of sets.

He looks at the target 80 times. It's like, bro, what the fuck? Hit the golf ball. That was a period. It doesn't miss a target either. So it's like, all right. I mean, I guess like he just kept ripping the ball down the guts and like Carr made some great plays down the stretch.

But there's one. I mean, like it is like it's so much an anterior event. Literally Bennett hits the ball OB on a par five, has to hit another one short of the green this time. and my boy car who's a total gunslinger just does the same thing he's like 30 or 40 yards in front of him and all he had to do is hit like iron iron wins the hole no problem we go on to the next and he's still charging um and no he pulls it goes ob somehow i think halves that hole and you're like what in the hell was that hell was that he's not because they're not perfect he's gonna regret that facial hair

when he gets older like he's gonna be a p.m and it's like you won the fucking USAM and you're looking at this thing, and you've just got this big chunk of hair just right on the chin, just the most outrageous facial hair of all time. It's like I just could have won that without that. Maybe he goes through a glow-up. Maybe he changes his look.

Oh, he will? Yeah. You've got to. You've ever seen Rory when he was young? And always like Ricky Fowler. These guys look terrific. Speaking of a glow-up, and this is a different sport,

but did you guys watch the Manti-Dio doc? No, I haven't. Stunning, that stuff. It's stunning. And I don't have a problem. with that documentary, but... Oh, really? Well, I really enjoyed it,

but I fucking hate how they turn, like, Raya into this, like, victim almost, where it's like they... The documentary makes you almost feel bad for the person that did that Samantha Teo. Yeah, and she tries to...

She tries to play into the victim stuff a lot. Oh, my God. It's like, you're the worst person that's ever lived. Like, I don't care what your reasoning was. I don't care what you were going through. There was that you created this elaborate lie to the point, to the extent that she went to,

is the most psychotic insane thing I've ever seen in my entire life, calling his family. They think there's multiple people involved, the mother, the dad, the grandmother, like, they all were in. It's crazy. No, it's the things that she did were outside of like comprehension. And then there's one point in it. don't want to ruin it, but it's a great document. It's two episodes.

Is there any, like, motive, like legitimate motive? You got to watch it. You got to watch it. It's like, yeah. But, oh, Frankie just went away. But it's one point. That's the best thing has ever happened. Somebody had those special button there that we just hit.

She had, that was great. She had left Manteo voicemails like, you know, play well today. I'm rooting for you, all this stuff. And then when all the news is breaking in, he's kind of trying to figure out what's going on and like he's like this is the proof that I had that I thought I had a girlfriend in California and it turns out I was getting catfish he puts out the voicemails being like this is what I heard and it's it sounds like a female voice and she's like I love you good night and Naya the person that did it is like I can't believe he put out

the voicemails and it's like you created a person and ultimately ruined this guy's life like They go through the whole thing where teams don't draft him. He falls to the second round, and it follows him for the rest of his life. It's a really interesting documentary, and you find out that, like, you know, when it was all happening, it was like, oh, does Mantae have a hand in this? Is he a part of this? They go through all of that. But Mantiahe looks fucking phenomenal these days. He looks super healthy.

He's got this beautiful haircut. He's a great-looking individual, and he gives this great speech at the end. but if I were to recommend something to somebody it's only I think it ends up being like two hours it's two episodes but yeah I got a really really interesting shit really I'm not to my fucking list too hell yeah it was fascinated at a time because like I think maybe it was right before the national championship or like right around it where they got and then they got absolutely speed bag by Alabama I felt like who is that big back it might who's it maybe it might have been Henry that was just running over man tito during that and then yeah it's crazy have like his career changed because he was

incredible at Notre Dame and then everybody was like dude no way could this five star stud be like duped into this so I've now I've got that in Game of Thrones so I'm glad I'm aware of the new Game of Thrones is a good list that's what I got too I'm pumped come off the Grand Canyon

really the world really passes you by I've heard the Grand Canyon is awesome dude it's off the charts we got it during monsoon season a little different the river is not blue or white by any means. There's no white water. It is straight mud water the whole way down, but the rapids are still as grand, if not bigger, because the rain. And it is epic being down

on the river looking up all the different rock faces. It's truly like it's what was our Scottish whiskey taster? What was the word he used? It is truly remarkable. What do you always say? unique. Unique. It is a unique experience on every view. Yeah, I, um, that's high on my list. I've heard it's just awesome. Yeah.

Absolutely awesome. What fuck was that? Pretty good. I don't know. You left. Yeah, my laptop died at like 10% and then I had to go run outside in my fucking, uh, travel golf bag and get my charger from when I brought the pebble.

And then this thing was still recording, which is horrifying. My laptop was dead and I turned it on in, Audacity where I record my audio was still recording, which means my computer. computer for sure listens to me when it's on sleep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. Dude, have you ever seen the Snowden documentary? Yeah, it's horrifying.

Also, Alex, who edits all our audio is going to hear me like sprint and like breathing heavy when I come back. And at one point, I'm like, no, no. It's dying. And I'm like, no, come on. And then I'm like, oh, shit, it's still recording. What the fuck? I don't know if you guys finish up that fucking Netatayo stuff.

but it's just got me going. I'm like, come on, man. You also have so much respect and you feel so bad I want to hug, man, Daita. He's the nicest human being that has ever walked this earth. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just a genuinely good dude. Everyone has to watch it. It's fucked. I mean, alerts were saying we're excited now. We've got two things to add to our list, which is... Oh.

Everybody's always looking for shit to watch. Totally.