Fore Play - “Tiger just what because of what?”

Episode Date: March 5, 2019

Breaking: Our raw, immediate reaction to Tiger withdrawing from the API due to a neck strain. Hint: We're devastated but also optimistic. In Headlines, we talk JT vs the USGA, Keith Mitchell's heroics at the Honda Classic, and Vijay Singh's blast from the past. In From The Gallery, we've got golf dreams!!!   You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Because we have breaking news. We're recording this within minutes of Tiger Woods releasing a tweet in which he said he's withdrawing from the Bay Hill, from Arno Palmer and a rotation on Bay Hill. I can't. My brain is not really working. I'm very distraught. I don't know what to say.

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Golf to save you a bunch of money. They make it very quick and very seamless. It's the best. Tiger Woods writes, unfortunately, due to a next strain that I've had for a few weeks, I'm forced to withdraw from the API. I've been receiving treatment, but it hasn't improved enough to play. My lower back is fine, and I have no long-term concerns. and I hope to be ready for the players.

I like to send my regrets to the Palmer family and the Orlando fans. Its connection to Arnold makes it one of my favorite tournaments, and I'm disappointed to miss it. Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. A lot to break down right now. There's the most obvious one. I imagine all the jokes are going to go this way.

So let's get ahead of this one. Massage parlor, massages, strained neck, dodging questions, didn't answer the media. those last two rounds in Mexico last time he played, which was the days that this whole massage thing broke. He, with his, you know, history, is he not ready to answer quit? Is he connected to it? Is he not?

Does that have nothing to do with it? Back, he's had back issues, as some of you may know. This is the first setback physically that we've heard about since he had the fusion surgery and came back a year and a half ago, looking great, looking healthy, all that. Our tiger backometer, the middle of it, is. He's probably not going to win this tournament this week, but he looks healthy, which is the most important thing. Now he's hurt. I don't know what to say.

I will say your first reaction to it other than being completely devastated was that he didn't talk to the media the last couple times. And now this, it's, again, we're not the connect-the-dot guys, but we're just stating things that have happened in a row involving Tiger Woods. Just stating things. You know what I mean? Just stating things. The facts are two Fridays ago is when the Robert K. crafting story broke that Saturday and Sunday after at the WGC Mexico Tiger Woods did not answer media questions after those rounds which is very rare for him he did do his

discovery media which he has the partnership with them he does interviews with them all that stuff you know that's very friendly waters that he's waiting into there correct then he didn't play last week which he was never going to he withdrew from the Honda uh or he made it clear wasn't going to play the Honda a couple weeks ago and then now which this would be a first time back since all then. He's withdrawing on Monday before the event starts on Thursday. It's just, we're just listing things that have happened. Now, he did say in multiple different spots that last year he played too much golf,

that he just played too much golf in too short of a period of time. He wasn't prepared for that. He lost a bunch of weight. He just played too much golf. So that this year, his plan was to not do that. was basically to be a little bit more cautious about it. The schedule's different. It's more condensed, all of that.

He did take the Honda Classic out last week, which he's been playing the Honda Classic the last several years or the last several times that he's done more of a full schedule. So there's a lot to it. He could just be being, like, if you take his tweet at face value and you're a good, happy Tiger fan, you're thinking about it, best case scenario. He's just being overly cautious. He had a little bit of a next train. Just a couple weeks. It's just a little knot in there. Actually, I think the last time we saw him, he was doing a little bit of, you know, the neck.

He's looking up in the sky. I'm like, all right, you know, this guy's just being cautious. At this time, at this age, and with all the stuff that's happening, he's just being cautious. This is now, that's not how I believe right now. We're just talking how, you know, some people may be thinking. This is one side to take. No, it's definitely a side of taking it's the side of the side that Tiger's trying to present. Now, Tiger, as much as we love him, and, you know, I met him, nice guy.

He has been less than fully transparent with the media throughout his. career. There's just no doubt about that. He is, you know, misled and sort of done things, painted things the way that he wants him rather than necessarily the exact way that they are. So you have to be a little, you know, you're going to take this with greatest salt. You really don't know how to take it. This guy, one guy on Twitter pointed out, he's had that KT tape on his neck earlier this year. I'm sure he's telling the truth. So, you know, there are some signs. I believe everything that guy said. I think it's a real stand-up guy right there. Knows a lot what he's talking about.

Tagger did want to make clear that it's not his lower back. Yes. It's not. I don't love that he put that in the thing. Don't even mean... Tiger Woods should have a blocker on his phone where when he types out the word lower back, it should turn into like different emojis and shit. Like the word lower back just doesn't come out.

It should vanish. It should be like a unicorn and like rainbows and stuff. And like every time he wants to type in lower back, it's like good stuff, not bad stuff. 100%. He should not be allowed to type about it, talk about it, tweet about it, anything about it whatsoever. The fact that that was like,

you only get so many characters on these two tweets, the fact that he decided to include my lower back is fine, I have no long-term concerns. Don't love that he had to include that. Don't love that. Don't feel great about that. It's just a, it's breaking news. I didn't expect it, you know. He took last week off.

He's looked good. His finishes have improved throughout the year and three starts that he's made. Even though his putting was bad last week, like, okay, his ball striking, he's been pretty solid. Everything's looking good. And then this just out of nowhere. This is the first time that he's really had some sort of setback like that, like we said in the last year and a half.

So it's tough. and Arnold Palmer, like he's won there a million times. He was in contention there last year before hitting one out of bounds on 16. Like everything, it was just, it was going to be great. It was going to be so good. And then now it's just fucking terrible. I have Tiger Alerts set up on my phone for when he tweets it shows up like a text message. And usually you see him on Saturday and Sunday he'll do the ones where they're in the third person.

And it's like, Tiger shot 68 today. It's like, okay, those are fine. And then when I saw it appear on my phone right before we started recording, I knew something was wrong. And it was. I feel a little nauseous. I walked in here I was just I was doing a radio hit Is that what the people say in the world?

Yep I was doing a radio hit Talking about this bullshit I've been dealing with With the Islanders and Sean Avery That wax candle But we, uh, I'm doing in there And I see you guys in here like walking around

I thought you guys were like selling something I thought you were doing like an ad deal I looked in the corner I saw like Riggs was very animated I'm like what's going on in there I walk in first thing he says And he goes, Tiger's hurt Like what the fuck's going on in here

Like how did this happen? I gotta say this I'm pretty upset at my cell phone carrier because I have those alerts too. You didn't get it? Well, Trent got his like five minutes before I saw mine. Wow. Yeah, I was like, I just got it. And you're like, I don't know what you're talking about.

You go, do you see a Tiger Tweet? What Tiger Tweet? I was watching Frankie do his radio hit. Every second matter is in this stuff. Like five minutes behind is. I have to change that. If I just restart my phone, what do I do? Get a new carry.

That was garbage. You have to go to the carrier and be like, I'm going to explain to you what happened and why I'm switching, and this is why. I can't be five minutes behind. In this business, you can't be five minutes behind. You can't be five seconds. Imagine going to Dave Portnoy and he's been like, why didn't you blogger talk about the tiger thing right away?

He's like, oh, my phone carrier didn't work. That's just not going to fly in this business. Imagine I go to him. Imagine if I, like, if I walk into his office in a 15 second, like wrong period and he's like, wow, how about the tiger news? And I'm like, I'm done. Yeah. Over. Walking papers.

What the fuck? I'm rattled about that. This is, this whole thing is just terrible. We were going to come on. We were going to come on here. We were going to joke about the exchange between. JT and the USTA and you know Keith Mitchell's finish and it was how awesome it was. Keith Mitchell just got body bag.

The Keith Mitchell knew. Who the fuck is Keith? This got knocked off the rundown for topics. It's got you, dude, everything was coming up. You're right. Like the JT. USGA thing, that's something we've been waiting for for two years. We've been ahead of that story for two years.

Those are two things that we've been touting. We've talked about USGA. We've had our issues with JT. Then we had JT on the show. We've, we've, we went from this relationship that you think could never happen with USGA. all of a sudden we're buddies with the USDA. We want the USDA to embrace the carnage and like the bad boy stuff.

And then they kind of did. So we're going to talk all about that. And like you said, Keith Mitchell, that guy is like a perfect common man example. Never won a tournament before ever like anywhere in the fucking world. He's got this beauty caddy who's like the, who's just, everything was coming up us. And now I'm all disoriented. I don't even know what's, what is happening right now? What are we doing?

Up is down, down is up. It's crazy. This world feels unfair. And I feel, I just, I don't know. I feel nauseous. It feels unfair but also unfortunately familiar, you know? When his injuries drop, I know this feeling. It's a horrible feeling.

It makes me want to throw up. But I also, it's a place we've all been before with Tiger. The greatest fear right now is that this is a place we've been before. Right. And it is. You want this to be just, oh, it's a little bump. I remember early in the year when Tiger cautiously just withdrew from the Arnold Barmer rotational, that's really mature Tiger.

That's kind of like early 40s Tiger. taking it easy. That really worked out well. Man, remember we were panicking, but he ended up winning five tournaments in a couple of majors. That was really cool. Hoping that's kind of where we're at. But right now, it sucks. This is a disorienting moment. Yeah. I'm disoriented. How about we had the studio we were going to record from like 2.30 to 4? He drops that tweet at literally at like 2.30. Thank God. The silver lining, I suppose, is that the news broke while we were about to record. This is this is genuine and instant of a reaction I think as we've ever provided on the podcast

I agree Because we put every show out on Tuesday So we record on Monday The only time is like after I guess after the Masters We usually do like a Monday release Right We got years that was when Frankie was first on the podcast

I think that's maybe the only case of like a more That was like I walked off the 18th green I was in another world I mean you didn't even talk to your mom yet I hadn't talk to anyone yet You talked to this podcast I tried to talk to you guys and you're like just save it for

and we have the mics around it. Yeah, we had to fucking, we had to put like a gag in your mouth. Shut the hell up, Frankie. Save it for the show. All right. Why is my mic so low, by the way? This thing is basically in my lap.

And I can't just move it up. You can't, though. This mic situation, you can't. You just can't. I don't. All right. Go on. I'm sorry.

You just moved it up. I think you did it. All right. God damn it. Are we? So Tiger and theory will play next week at the player's championship. If he would draw from that, where are we at?

Are we in full panic mode? Yeah, because right now we are able to play the, okay, he didn't want to play as much golf this year. It wore him out last year. We don't want him to overdo it. One withdraw is fine. Withdraw is fine. Another one, panic mode, fully.

Because you know where that ends? Yes. That ends with, I'm going to have a minor procedure in hopes that I can be back in time for the Masters, then it turns into, I was hoping I'd have more success. However, it's looking like I'm going to have to take more time off. And then next thing, you know, he's out for two years. This really feels like a recurring nightmare. Like, it's awful.

We're laughing because of how. You're in the part of the dream. We're laughing like crazy people. You're in the part of the dream where you're like, oh, we got through. We got through the other side. He won again. He's going to win another major, no doubt about it. And then this happens and the nightmare is back.

I cannot believe that we are. sitting here talking about this right now. This is such a stunning moment. Like I don't want to do the full panic. Like you said, unless he withdraws from the... I might like 95% panic. You're doing a pretty... I have to get to 100 to, like, really panic.

Like 95 is basically similar to zero. But I want everyone to know that it's not going to take much for me to get to 100. And 100, I mean, what do... I don't... I'm one tweet away from being a full-blown mess. Yeah. If something happens next weekend, I'm going to be a fucking mess. Like, what happened?

If he comes out, okay, let's say he comes out next weekend and, like, his first nine holes, he just looks like he's, like, grabbing his back or something a little bit. Dude, Arnold Pover is, like, it's so much fun to watch him in that tournament. It's like so. It's the best. It's the best. He loves it. He loves playing in it. The colors of the logo.

Like, just like everything. The umbrella. The umbrella with Tiger is unreal. Why are we not seeing this? I feel like someone's, like. doing this to us on purpose. And it was like we got the Honda classic finish, even though they didn't have a great feel.

Everybody's talking about their field, how their field got fucked because of the new schedule. But somehow they gave us a great Sunday anyways. So it was like, oh, we got through that week without a lot of the big guns in the field and it still turned into an awesome finish. Really fun to watch them play the bear trap and all that. Now we get Tiger and even Phil's playing Arnold Palmer. All these fucking stars. Rory's the defending champ is going to be so awesome and glorious and life's so good.

And then Tigers just fucking injured. What is that? Would you give up anything right now? Like, let's say they said he's, like, let's say we know that he's only doing this because he's about to be exposed in this, like, massage thing. Would you sign up for that right now so that you know for a fact it's nothing to do with his neck? 100%. Like, you know that he's going to, like, PR nightmare's about to come crashing down.

Like, he was involved in, like, some crazy shit and it's going to be a nightmare, but he's not hurt at all. I don't think I would take that. You wouldn't? No. You would take a neck, think about it. Dude, we've been through so many shit. scandals at this point. Obviously it would be a lot of baggage coming back around after he said it was

we thought it was all gone. But to have a 100% healthy tiger with a little bit of a scandal, that is... It took him more than okay. Two years to win again after the last scandal. He may not be able to walk again if this neck thing's bad. I'll take my chances. Like, I don't know where this ends. It starts with a little walk. It's a

neck strain. It starts with the next strain and ends up, Doug. It's just... Do you know the emotional toil toll our guy is taken in the last eight, nine years? Do you understand that? He's supposed to be healthy right now. But I don't know if he,

43-year-old Tiger Woods, neck strain sounds like something. I could get over that tomorrow. That sounds less serious than my knee injury, which I was on a cane, guys, for a couple days. For three hours. You were on a cane. For several days. Point is, next strain doesn't sound that serious.

You're not 43. If he goes through another scandal, similar to the one that he went through last time, or even a tenth of that or a hundredth of that. And he's the butt of every joke. And he's spread out of all these fucking headlines again. And he's 43. And it takes another year or two now for him to get into a state.

I don't know that he ever recovers for that. Whereas a neck strain, he can recover from a next train. So we're really talking about our mental or physical toll. That's how serious the physical toll is. Back. If it's anything back related at all. I mean, it's his neck is pretty fucking. Fucking finger or something.

Yeah. Neck is your real close to your back. I wish he had the shits. Like I wish he. I wish he ate something bad. Would you have in, would you have over in stage seven? You had stage seven diarrhea. I wish Tiger Woods has stage seven diarrhea.

Let me explain you how bad stage seven diarrhea is. I don't know if you want that on Tiger. Would you wish that on Tiger right now? Definitely. Definitely. 24 hour, maybe 36 hour deal, you're fine. I understand what you're saying. But at this point in this career, we need health above all else.

And if we got to get through a rub and tug scandal, I say we do that. I don't think you are. accurately understanding how important emotional health is, Trent. Don't put that on me. I'm just saying he went through an ungodly amount in the last one, and this, if that starts to bring up and people start, maybe feels like people are turning on him again, he gets discouraged, all that, I don't need that.

Next drain, doesn't feel like the end of the world. Right now. Run him through that fucking ringer again. I don't know how he comes out on the other side. It's a fair point, but I just, it starts with the neck, and then the next thing he's talking about is, I want to be able to play with my kids. That's true. Don't say that. I want to go to my kids soccer games.

I want to be able to play soccer with my kids. Yeah. No, we want to watch you fucking win majors, dude. Right. Like, kids can fucking wait. I will say. We need you win a major. Your kid playing in a soccer game is the, I care about that the least in the world.

I care about him lifting trophies and wearing green jackets. That's all I care about. Frankie's upset. Look, I understand that this could come off poorly. But that's the truest statement that I've ever heard of this podcast. I don't get the fuck about Tiger's kids playing soccer. I couldn't give a fuck about anything less. If they're sad for the rest of their lives because Tiger didn't play enough soccer with him,

but he wins more tournament. Your dad's Tiger fucking Woods. Go play soccer in a field. Again, I get that that's not very compassionate. towards the kids, but I don't care either. Wow, wow. I want, I want... Oh, wow, wow.

Daddy didn't show up to your soccer game because he was winning the fucking masters. I want majors. I want them now. I don't want soccer practice. I don't give a fuck about soccer practice. We want majors. That's what we're here for.

That's what we're in the business up when it comes to Tiger Woods. Truest thing I've ever heard on this podcast. I can't believe we're having this conversation. Pray for Tiger. Hopefully. For real. I mean, we're laughing, but it's because of... It's just like a delirious.

It's the absurdity of it. The fact that we're back here again. And we all got to deal with the people in our mentions being like, we knew this was going to happen. We knew this was going to happen. We had to deal with Big Cat came in here. I couldn't tell me serious or sarcastic or what planet he was on. Big Cat came in here?

Oh, my God. Oh, I'm glad I missed that. That would have ruined my day. You would have thrown your computer at him, Frankie. Oh. He came in and said that his, he goes, my tweet, I want you to know, was take, I meant it very seriously. I didn't think it was that bad of a tweet.

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Yeah, Dan Hicks called him Kevin Mitchell, which I guess was a Mets player. Is that right? Kevin Mitchell? That name doesn't ring a bell to me. So Keith Mitchell, I will say, all jokes aside, this was fucking awesome. Honda Classic yesterday. It was a little bit tough, no offense to Keith. It was a little bit tough because you had these juggernaut names.

You had Ricky Fowler, Brooks Kepka, Brooke, who's been on the media frenzy lately, just burning bridges down left and right in the best way possible. Did you see his Instagram video this weekend? Oh, my God. He was putting up 225, 15 times. He's a madman. He's a madman. Madman.

He should be at the combine. So we have Brooks Kepka and Ricky Fowler get into the clubhouse at 8 under. They're tied for the lead. you've got VJ Singh teed off in the last group, final group, 56 years old looking to become the oldest winner in the history of the PGA tour. Yeah, Lucas Glover, the glove man, with all his baggage going on. He had a great week. He actually had a real yippy little miss late in his round,

but then he made a huge birdie putt on the 72nd hole that I, no joke, I almost fell off my fucking couch. I was so nervous for this puck. Oh, my God. I'd say, all right, Tiger's number one in terms of tweets we get when he's playing and how he's playing, whether it's good or bad. I think Lucas Glover's number two. Dude, Lucas Glover, I'm talking, if Lucas Glover starts,

if he makes a birdie in the first five holes on Thursday, yeah, our mentions start blowing up. Yeah. Like, oh, shit, wait for Lucas. People always say this is very funny. Don't set the bar too high now, Lucas. Like, calm down. Easy, easy, Lucas.

Don't go too low. You're right. Lucas, he moves the needle. So he had a nice T4 finish, another huge paycheck for Lucas. We got into this debate a couple weeks ago, but I think, I think Krista Glover, these T4 finishes, I think she likes that. I think he's bringing home to bacon.

That's a lot of cash money coming in with those. He's getting better and better. His finishes have been strong and stronger. He's playing good golf again. I don't think he gets, you know. Fuck the Golf Central for just tweeting this out. I'm like going through Twitter and I see a picture of Tiger on his knees on a green. Come on.

It's like Tiger Woods will not compete in this week time Palmer. Fuck you! Golf Central at Golf Central. Are you kidding me? Who the hell do you think you are? You can't do the picture of him on his knees. This is so... I blogged it as well.

This is the picture I use. That's the one you use. This is the meanest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. What is going on right now? How can you associate a neck strain with a little KT tape on it with this... Him at his lowest point in his career? I put the blog up on Barstall's Sports and I made sure that I didn't go anywhere near him on his knees. Because that's...

Tiger Woods on his knees is a fucking nightmare. When you put that picture up, you better... You mean business. I just had a tweet about them. I said, what the... fuck is this picture this is insane how could you possibly post that picture get out of here and then they go take a look through his injury timeline no what are you talking about we are grown-ass men that can move on from things i don't want to look back at his injury timeline he's healthy so keith mitchell

162nd in the world coming into this turn he's never won anything basically on planet earth the way that he described it to me uh he didn't win in college he didn't win on the mini tour he didn't went on the web.com tour. He missed, apparently missed, finishing top 25 on web.com a couple of years ago by missing a 15-foot put, and it was after his catty told him that he had to hold out for Eagle. So he had this chip. He went super aggressive with it, hit it 15 foot by, then missed that, and up finishing like 26, which is devastating. Top 25 gets you all this different status and all that. So he's had a wild road. He's a classic kind of coming up through the ranks, and, you know, he's been kind of chirping back a little bit about being called a no-name, but also just admitting that he's

literally a no name. And then he wins. I mean, he comes, he played, he looked so calm the whole time. By the way, I think he's 218th out of 221 in strokes gained putting on the PJ tour. So he's just a godawful putter relative to the other pros out there and had a solid, much better week for him. Pudding-wise, gets himself in contention. Look great all throughout the whole weekend even. I mean, the course is really difficult. So people were obviously going to make mistakes. He's no different. But he looked really solid. He looked like he was in kind of control of his emotions and all that. He said he's been in this position, at least in other tournaments on other levels and whatnot. So he thought he had, like, kind of melted down on those other instances and let his emotions get the best of him.

He said afterwards at this time, he felt good. He felt like he learned from those experiences. He had a, he pulled his drive a little bit on 18. Everybody knows that hole. It was, uh, the wind was favorable yesterday on Sunday. So everyone was kind of reaching that green and two. Super firm greens at the Honda Classic, which was awesome. You saw some of these balls.

It looks like they're playing on fucking concrete. Yeah. Out of the Honda Classic and the wind's blowing like a motherfucker. So he lays up. to like 130 yards on 70-second hole. He knows if he makes birdie, wins the tournament, hits it to like 15 feet below the hole, steps up. I think they, right before he hits the putt.

One of those guys drops the old, well, he's only made two putts over 15 feet the entire week. This putt is 15 foot, six inches. You're thinking, like, okay. And you're thinking at this point, again, people got to remember, Brooks Kevka in the clubhouse at 8-under, Ricky Fowler in the clubhouse at 8-under, and Keith Mitchell is 8-under.

He's got a put to go to 9. Are you thinking, this guy, in the history of the PGA tour, this situation, this guy never makes this put, misses, they go to playoff, he loses in the playoff, and nobody ever hears from ever again. At no point that I think he was going to make that put. I was already thinking about when Brooks won

what he was going to say at his press conference. What was his next bombastic comment going to be? I saw Keith Mitchell line up the 15-footer, and I was already into the playoff hole. When he struck this thing. Instead, he fucking drained it. I mean, when he struck that thing, I said, oh, we're fucked.

Because I mean, I was looking forward to a playoff? That thing, had no chance of missing. Back of the cup. That's literally how you learn at a putt, right? You want to just hit it with pace right into the middle of the back of the cup. Thing fell like 100 miles an hour into that cup. Never had a chance to miss. It just couldn't miss.

It was impossible. Once he made contact, he should have just walked off the course. I mean, that was the purest putt of thing I've ever seen. And the angle they had, like that sky view angle. The thing breaking left to right into the middle of the cup. I don't know if it could have possibly fallen into more of the geometric center. No. From a snapper to that put, that thing snapped left to right.

It was awesome. You know who like probably fucking pleasureed himself to that was Bryson. The science on that thing? Oh my God. The science on that putt was. He's going to be studying that thing all week. Good. I hope he does. I hope he comes at you with some term, Frankie, about how perfect that putt. If Bracian has a term for that putt, then that'll be another just body bag.

I mean, I was about to say, then I'll just be body bag, but he does it every single week. So that would just be another thing next week. It's true. He does. If he finds it. So, yeah, he was called Kevin Mitchell by Dan Hicks, his response on Twitter. You can call me Kevin all you want, just make out the check to Keith. It's a great tweet.

Awesome tweet. I like this guy. You never know what these guys, the ones you don't hear from all the time, that's a good tweet. That's how I know that he's a good guy. I haven't seen a single, unlikeable thing about this guy yet. He's awesome. So Keith Mitchell, congratulations to you. Very cool to watch.

It was, the only devastating thing was that, I mean, I was geared up for a playoff. I think everybody was geared up for a three-way playoff. We're going to have two of the biggest names in golf. Ricky Fowler probably is the biggest name in golf outside of Tiger Woods. I mean, he might be the most, he might be the most popular, I guess. golfer outside of Tiger Woods. Yeah. You could argue Phil and Rory maybe, but like, Ricky's right in there.

People always forget that he's got the younger demographic, like nobody else does. Yeah, like even younger than our demo. Yeah. Like, we would probably say Rory, I think. That would be my answer. But if you ask a certain demo, probably the most important demo, it's Ricky Fowler, there's no doubt. Let me say this. You're going to see more Ricky gear in a tournament than you are like Rory related to it.

For sure. Yeah. So Ricky and then Brooks Kepka, who's of course one three major. championship in the last two years, back-to-back U.S. opens, and you're thinking, like, we're going to have this playoff, and Keith Mitchell just kind of all of a sudden he made that put, and it was like, wait a second, wait, wait, we're just not going to get, wait, we're not going to get this playoff now. So that was kind of a weird feeling, to be honest with you.

But also, good for him. Very cool story. A lot of cool stuff coming about out about him afterwards. Ricky Fowler stuck around to congratulate Keith Mitchell. So Ricky did the big congratulation thing. They caught Ricky watch it and make his put and kind of gave a, like, well, what can you do? Like, that was great, you know. And then Ricky, I will say, was asked about his congratulatory tendencies here, where he's always congratulating guys.

And he said, I mean, I've signed my card. I've done everything I can do. Fowler said after posting his Sunday 67. I love competing. I love going up against the best in the world. I love beating all them. And I think that shows up in some of the best players in the world that step up down the stretch and can finish when needed. But once the card is signed, I mean, I kind of just become a spectator.

Which, that's a fair point. That's a very fair point. He's like, what can I do at that point? I've already putted out. I've finished out. I've signed my card. All my work here is done. And I'm a golf fan.

And I kind of like watching golf at that point. I agree with all of that. But you could put together a pretty lengthy montage at this point of Ricky Fowler coming up to the eventual winners and shaking their hand. Yes, you could. And it's just not a great look. It's a fine look, but it's – and I get that it's hard as in the right place. But, you know, he catches a lot of ricochet shots, and we've talked about that on the show. It's just, I guess, Ricky Shea shots.

Ricky Shea shots. Ricky Shea shots. That was one of your best. Boom! I will say it's not, I guess, bad look is the wrong thing to say. Yeah, I take that back. I apologize. I do not mean bad look.

However, if you add that up with Ricky's kind of, he's juxtaposition that he's got going, where he's one of the most popular players in the entire world, he's one of the most marketable players in the entire world, yet there are many players that have a more successful resume than he does. He's got the five wins now, but a lot of people get shit on him for not winning more. He's been in contention a lot. He had the one year, the year of Rory when he finished top five in all four major championships. I believe that was 2014.

Yep. So you start to put together like, oh, this guy is really good. He's always in the top 10. He's always on the U.S. Rider Cup and President's Cup teams. He's one of the most consistent and best players on planet Earth. But he doesn't seem to quite have that killer instinct. Oh, and then he goes and congratulates everybody on the green. You add those things up, and it kind of becomes like a, oh, I get it.

He just doesn't really have that kind of clamp down, stop on their throat mentality. at the end. Be angry. Which is what you want, right? Like Tiger fucking decimated people. When Tiger was up by five, he would fucking go. He would stop at no lengths to win by six or to win by eight or to win by ten. And Ricky, when you do it all that, it just adds up to kind of a, he's pretty content with where he's at.

But I think, yeah, I think we found you either have that or you don't. It's not something, like you say, Ricky, be angry. That's not something you're the born with it or you're not. So if he just doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. Right. And a lot of guys, you know, people were touting yesterday on, uh, you know, What was it on the 17th? He made a bomb from off the back of the green for Bertie.

And all he did, he didn't even give a fist pump. He just kind of put his finger up, like a thank you. A lot of people saying love that, to demeanor and all that. I'm sure there's certain advantageous things about that. But to other people, it's like, well, if he had the killer instinct, he might, you know, maybe he might be fist pumping all over the fucking green. To Trent's point, not everybody's the same. They all handle things differently, so I don't know.

But I wouldn't hate to see a little killer instinct about it, Ricky. Let me say that. Wouldn't hate it. Shout out to Vijay Singh, hell of a week. I was really hoping he was going to pull that off. Me too. Hard not to root for the big Fijian. He was the one I was rooting for, no doubt about it.

He's awesome. VJ's great. Like to see him in the mix. It's just funny. I mean, he looks, did somebody he was saying on the radio this morning, the cousins were saying that they thought he looked like he'd gained a ton of weight. I thought he looked identical. I think he's looked the same for 20 years.

Swing. Everything. Pudding. Exactly the same. Still looks like there's zero chance he's going to make a putt. Show a picture of him putting from now in the show one 15 years ago. You would never know which one was present-day VJ. It was such a throwback, too.

Every single swing he takes, he does the lean afterwards. And it was such a throwback. Like, I feel like I just, that was like when I, when I fell in love with golf and just watched every tournament and, like, for the first time. Yep. And really started to learn about, like, the PJ tour and the different venues they always go to. Vijay was always in the mix and just watching him and seeing that little fucking sway he does after he's always leaning on one shore or the other. It's just great. It's like, oh, Vijay's back.

Remember when we looked up the, like, all-time majors leaders? and he was just, I mean, and like tournament wins. He's got like 34 wins. 34 tournament wins. Something like up there. It's insane. One of the best golfers of all the time. That's a stunning number.

Vijay Singh. Phil's at like 44, right? Crazy. You're telling me fucking VJs at like 34. I mean, he's, you're right. His numbers are staggering. His numbers are alarming. He also, he had like in his 40s, he had the career.

He had an unimaginable career just in his 40s. He just won a shit ton of tournaments in his 40s. It's like what? Nobody does that. He wears, like, bland colors, too. Like, VJ's just, it's... He's cool, though. He's a cool cat.

I always envision him... I always envisioned him, like, the first time, like, when I really started, like, watching Golf Channel all the time, watching, like, Golf Central and, like, live from coverage and all that, and they would talk about VJ all time and how hard he works.

And I just, like, there was one clip where VJ was just in on the range. They had, like, a fairway bunker next to the range, that this was, like, the fairway bunker practice area. And they just cut to VJ, and he was just in there with, like, 200 golf balls, just banging, fucking balls out of this fairway bunker with this caddy like rolling balls to him that's how i

envision vj's sake just while everyone else out to dinner they're kind of like maybe they're on social media maybe they're like hanging out with their family vj's in the fucking fairway bunker practice area from dawn till dusk it's banging golf ball no way vjah has twitter right there's just no way if he does it's just he doesn't run it's gonna be his official marketing no you know no vj sing twitter right it's gonna be great to be back in potavidra but you know it's just it's not no that's not him And that's like a... That's the Minister of State of External Affairs Government of India.

No, that's a different person. That's a different person. Yeah, it's not VJ Singh. What would his Twitter name be? Come up with a pun, Mr. Pun, Master. What do you mean? I don't know. You're a big pun guy.

Come up with Vijay's Twitter name. You can't put me on the spot like that. Okay. I got to... Mani Machado doesn't... I got to think about it. He has a Twitter. He does?

At VJ Singh Golf. You don't think I would have had that... No. You would have come up with something better? Yeah. For sure. It doesn't come up when I put it in. Maybe you're blocked.

That would be some shit, right? If I was blocked by VJ Singh on Twitter. Yeah, I see VJ Singh golf. Let's see if he actually tweets by himself. Hold on. Internet. Everyone is horrific. Oh, yeah, he's got $55,000.

Yeah, he's there. There he is. A few photos from yesterday at Honda Classic. See, I don't think he's tweeting that with just a link. No chance. And he tweets all like pro VJ Singh articles. Vijay Singh 56 and final pairing on Sunday. Looking for a BJ tour record.

That's VJ Singh tweeted that. So I don't think he's running this account. No. Are you blocked? No, I found him. You think Vijay Singh's ever, like, ever been on the Twitter app ever? No, I think at his team meeting, they were like, hey, we're going to start this Twitter account for you, and he was like, yeah, sure, whatever. I gave it to him on a big old iPad, he just put his glasses on.

He's like, holding it. All right, what is this here? He's like scrolling through it. You guys really interrupted my range time here if I could. Yeah. No, there's no way he's ever been on Twitter. Oh, man. Peter Malar founded in 2001 with a single cashmere sweater

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Anti-Tiger propaganda. This isn't cool at all. Every single person at Golf Channel should be. Oh, we can't say that out there. It's one of the worst tweets I've ever seen you. You can't. Everybody knows you can't do the tiger on his knees. No, you can't.

That's wrong. That's DefCon. one. People are upset. I mean, people are calling for inappropriate things that happen to the Golf Central. So I can't, I'm not, we don't condone those, obviously. But people are upset. That's just wrong. I can't do that. Justin Thomas, big news here. Justin Thomas, United States Golf Association, our good friend, USGA, and Justin Thomas, also a friend of the program. We had him on first show of the year. First show of 2019. We did a whole hour with JT. He called in after we spent a large part of last year whenever he came up. We were pretty hard on him. You know, we thought that he came off. like a whiny bitch sometimes. Winy little bitch boy. Yep. That's really kind of the best way to say it.

Called him Charmin. Then again, I think we did call him Charmin. I got called Charmin so much today for the spit and chicklet stuff. I mean, that was like the number one insult from Canada. But go on. Charmin. Charmin. I got the Charmin, like, Giff of the guy, like, of the little bear, like, rubbing his face against.

And again, I think that's a lot of what J.T. got when he went through all of his stuff last year. Then again, we also acknowledged, like, J.T. seemed like, pretty cool. and very good young American golfer that we should love. He was awesome at the Rider Cups, so we kind of had this conflicting stuff from last year. But we were hard on him. We had him on the show. It went great.

He answered a lot of our questions of a great manner, down to Frankie's how upset Frankie was with him tweeting, you guys. Turns out that he kind of like stole that as a joke from another guy who tweets about Bam all the time. And an answer for every single thing. And an answer for even to go in from $3.50 with a three wood. What cool is.

Turns out him and Brooks Kepka have like a year-long bet or who's going to make the first albatross. So he was great on the show. Now, he's been incredibly hard on the new rules. The USGA, R&A, PGA, TOR put out the new rules this year. Everybody knows them. The flag stick in, dropping from knee height. The caddy rule, this has been the most controversial one where caddies aren't allowed to line players up.

This was mostly for the ladies. I mean, if you used to watch a lot of lady golf like I did, I mean, there are a lot of the lady golf caddies would legit stand right behind them, line them up and then just walk out of the way at the last second, then they would swing. People deemed that that's just kind of not the way golf should be played. So they made the rule against it, which I think is a good rule. However, they've been overly enforcing this thing.

I'm talking this, uh, it was Adam Shank, I believe, was the guy who was in a bunker. Name Shank. Yeah, name. Yeah, no, real tough. Real tough. Real tough. That's tough. It's just tough name.

Shank. Tough profession. I think that'd be my fucking name. I mean, Adam Shank. He got out in front of that. You see that? Yeah, way to go. He's learning.

Frankie Shank? Actually, I'll get ahead of this one too. I'll get ahead of this one. I hope he's listening. Devon Taves on the Islander says my new nickname for him is going to be Shanky Borrelli. He says when he drops that, it's going to be legendary. So I just fucking M&M the shit out of him. Oh, you did?

Shanky Brelly's okay. Shanky Borrelly's pretty good. That's great. He said, like, after, like, he's going to, like, tweet it one day and, like, gain a ton of Twitter followers. He's going to, like, he's going to absolutely bodybag me. Have you never gotten Shanky Borelli before? No one's ever called me Shanky Borelli.

That's on us. How do we not go on with that? I was sitting next to him and he said like, Shanky Borelli, you're like, you're ready to golf this summer? I'm like, what did you just call me? It's like Shanky Borelli. That's, I want to, at some point you've got to punch somebody. You got to make a zone.

It's a great name. Maybe not that guy. But I just jumped. I ate mild the shit out of that. You did. I mean, you have, like, you also have just become the name of a golf problem that people have. Right. Like T.C.

chended it. When you double hit it, that became the name from the T. T. You literally are like the Frankie Butter Dives. The Frankie Skullfucks. I've been getting so many tags about the Square Strike, and they've been making a huge push. I see a lot of Square Strike tweets are now. It's like USGA allowed golf club.

That's how they start all of their tweets because they want people to know that, like, it's legit. It's a legit golf club that you can use. Some guy asks me if he set one to the office, would I use it for every shot in one of my Riggsverse videos? I think you can, because I think you could hit it like 60, 70 yards. You got to, right? Yeah, definitely. You got to just smoke that thing. So, USGA.

Now, again, the rules, the interesting thing about the rules is that. JT has been incredibly, incredibly critical of the USDA. He tweets about it. He did it a couple weeks ago at Phoenix, and they ended up actually changing that rule in the middle of the tournament, if you remember. And he just kind of roast them a lot. This latest one was the ruling on Adam Shang, which was kind of a garbage rule. It didn't seem to be like in the spirit of what the rules for. the caddy wasn't really lining him up. He was just kind of ducking behind him while he was in the bunker talking to about the shot.

And then once they kind of decided, oh, yeah, maybe he'll go over there. And then he walked away. It didn't seem like it was a violation of anything. Gets for it. JT. quote tweets it and just writes, hashtag grow the game and at the USGA, which is clearly a chirp at the USGA. Massive chirp. He goes on another tweet. He goes, totally agree. And a person was basically going after the rules. Totally agree. I more so say things in hopes that the USGA starts communicating with the current players to, better the game and the sport. The rules are rules. No getting past that. Just hoping going forward, communication has had, and all golfers benefit from any changes. Now, where everything took a turn is the USGA, our close personal friend, responds to that tweet. Justin, we need to talk. Unbelievable start to a tweet. What? Unbelievable start to a tweet. You've canceled every meeting

we've planned with you, but we are reaching out again. We were at the first five events and tournaments last year and your tour has had a seat at the table for seven years. We'd love nothing more than to give you a seat. Call us. Woo! Now this, people went crazy down on this. Yeah, because, like, this is the USGA tweet now. This is like, uh, this is like the NFL, like, responding to like one of the players

that's tweets being like, you are not showing up to any of our meetings. Please answer our calls. Justin, we need to talk. That's like what your girlfriend says. Justin, we need to talk. Frankie, we need to talk. Like, you said that. You're in trouble.

And they threw in the fucking. and they threw in the comma, Justin, comma. We need to talk. I love it. I got to say, I put my U.S. Open hat on for a reason. I stand with the U.S.GA. I was going to, I wanted to see what your reaction to this would be. Not because it's against Justin Thomas.

JT actually has nothing to do with this. However, a lot of people, I watched Golf Central last night, David Duvall, I think Mark Roffing was on there. They were on there and they were saying, this is inappropriate. The U.S.GA should not be, like, communicating like this. Let me say this. We have been saying for years that the USDA needs to embrace what they are, which they are carnage. It is a golf tournament that is designed to break you down.

And the USDA, yeah, they're the governing body, all that, all that. The USDA really is the U.S. Open. Everybody knows that. That's just what they are. That's their identity, and that identity should seep its way through everything else that they do. And they've, I've said this to the USDA before. I've said this on the podcast where I said, why do you guys care when the players criticize you, where the players get upset.

When Bryce D. Chambos says, oh, this is clown golf. When Zach Johnson goes, they've lost control of the golf. They have lost control of the golf. Why do you guys view that as a negative? That, to me, as a viewer, as a spectator, when I see that shit, I go, I got to turn on my fucking TV. This sounds awesome. Why don't you guys embrace that? Why don't you, who gives a fuck what the players say this, that?

No matter what you do, no matter, however you guys handle it, PR-wise, they're going to come to your tournament because it's a major championship. It's the U.S. Open. There's nothing else like it. It's what makes it stand out. That's why we love it. That's what we want. We don't want to see five under or ten under win it. When we see five over win it.

We want to see fucking carnage. And you guys need to embrace that role and that image as kind of the bad boys of golf. Not that you're necessarily out to get anybody, but also like, no, no, no. If you're going to come win our golf tournament, like you got to go through fucking hell to win this thing. And that you need to embrace that in everything that you do. And they get roasted every week. Players shit on them. Guys on golf, you know, shit on them.

People make fun of them, people bitch at it about this and that, despite the fact they had like a two-year period for people to weigh in on the rules. Now that the rules are out, they're bitching about them left and right. They're shitting on the USJ. So finally, USGA says, fuck this. We've had enough. And they clap back at them. I love it. And again, I don't even care that it's Shay-T.

It has nothing to do with the fact that it's J-T. I love that they clap back. I was all in on this. I stand with the USDA. Unbelievable, right? Right there. That was huge. Yeah.

I was wondering how you were going to flip it into a, that tweet into a positive. It's sort of a clean rent. That was like from beginning and you didn't stumble. And look, I don't know. J.T. did come back and he said, J.T. was stunned by this. J.T. said it was a little shocking. You know, I've had communication with the S.J. I've talked about a couple people about how I feel about having conversations with them,

about what myself and the players think. It's a little upsetting just because their tweet was inaccurate. I haven't canceled anything, especially any meetings, but it is what it is. It is unfortunate. It really hurt me, he said. Although you do got to think, like, if you're J.T. if you want to punch somebody and in your head, no, you're not going to get a response. It's like, I'm going to punch USGA.

People are going to be like, good job, Justin, this was right. These rules stink. They clap right back. And they just come right back with Justin. We need to talk. He's got to be looking at his phone like, oh, shit. That's a fake account. He's got to look at that.

Oh, everybody thought that. He probably broke down the USGA Twitter handle for an hour being like that can't be real. Justin was poking them like, I don't like you, like pushing them back. And then they just responded with just like a slap across the face. Yeah. Sit down. that's what I like about it is that he

and Justin Thomas again friend of the program he didn't think he was going to get a response No he got a response He got a response And it I mean It was I went through like golf digest I was on golf channel

It was the number one headline On all these websites All these golf sides was like USGA clapped back at Justin Thomas I love that I love that's the headline now If it's true that they like put him Blast for canceling meetings

And he hasn't canceled meetings Well that's fucked up That's just Because that is gonna It's gonna kind of hurt him That but you're right You put it pretty I know he thinks and he knows like I get a lot of engagement off this action when I go after the USGA

and he's I think he's very genuine about it too like I think he doesn't like a lot of the rulings and things like if I just bitch at him on Twitter I can get some things done again we need to like rally all together and show that we're kind of against a lot of their BS rulings that they're out of touch and this and that and then when they just clap back him and he was fucking stuck this is what happened to me and brison and me and jay i was just talking my fucking mouth off like I always do Yeah. He just, like, came on the podcast and told me to shut up. That was it.

That's pretty much it. It's amazing. And it does hurt the person that's on the other side. I may stand with JT. That is hurtful. Let us talk our shit. Fucking USGA PR. Let me talk my shit and you don't have to respond.

I know that I know you know I'm wrong. And Riggs makes a good point. If you're going to clap back and you are the USGA, that's hilarious and fine. Obviously, it's a huge story. But you got to have the fact straight. Because otherwise, it looks like a dog shit response. Got to have the fact. straight. And then they kind of tweet it again and said,

Justin, thanks for connecting with us offline. We look forward to, which is, again, a weird way to tweet, but I kind of love it. We look forward to meeting with you and talking through these issues. It's clear we both want to do what's right by the game. So obviously it talked offline. They'll have some kind of meeting. And, you know, maybe this whole thing will kind of simmer and be fine and whatnot. But you're right.

The facts, they got to have the facts straight. But I've had enough. You know, these guys, they all, they jump in. It turns into like this kind of echo chamber a little bit where they all know that they get all the boys riled up, the more the players get involved. The players have such more of a voice than they've ever had, which could be a good and bad thing. Mostly it's good.

Like, we get to engage with them on Twitter, on Instagram. It's mostly a very good thing. But in this case, they've gained such power with their voices that then the USGA just kind of shut that down out of nowhere was unbelievable. And that second response is so savage, right? Because he clearly didn't respond. Like, they wrote underneath their tweet, thanks for connecting. with us offline so that everyone knew that he like kind of went like scurrying around and and

big time yeah he connected with you offline for a reason because like he kind of got body and then you just like went back online and just didn't tweet it it was amazing right it was amazing so again no thanks for responding to us offline but we want to keep this thing online so we want to let everyone know online that we connected that you came behind offline to us yeah correct and now we're going to say that we exactly what they did so again i you know it doesn't even matter to me that it was JT. Just the fact that they came back at someone, JT's been the most vocal guy about it,

was something that I've been long in the sea for a long time. I want this to happen. I want the USGA to kind of be elevated once again to like, people fucking respect the USGA. And if it takes them being the bad boys, if they show up fucking, if they show up dressed like the men in black at the fucking U.S. Open,

like we're here to run a very serious tournament and only the strong will start. survive this thing. Yep. I'm all in on that. Me too. I'm absolutely all in on that. So I enjoyed the hell out of this.

I couldn't believe it. I mean, it was Saturday afternoon, too. I'd been day drinking all day. I looked at my phone. I mean, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, if you zoom out, you got USGA going up against Justin Thomas. That's just good content. A bunch of people, too, like, you got to weigh in on this.

I was like, I'm too drunk. I can't. This is such an important. So I can't fuck this tweet up. It's right in the mix. So I threw something out there, just like, oh, why don't we have this conversation on Fortplay? I thought I was pretty safe kind of like middle road thing.

But I did. I looked at it and I thought, oh, man, this is too much for me right now. I'm too drunk to talk about this golf news. No, I just bit because I didn't really drink much Friday. And I was kind of ready to go Saturday, a couple people over to my apartment. We were playing some darts. I was just pounding transfusions. And then I just was like, what is happening right?

This is a pretty serious situation. So we'll see. That's ongoing. But I do. I have my U.S. Open hat on. Tuesday marks 100 days until the U.S. Open begins. Wow. Countdown is on.

So I do. I have my hat on. I stand with you. Very nice. A logo. Great logo, isn't it? Yeah. It's nice. Solid.

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if you remember the What's Up Doc segment, Frankie had to leave. Frankie's going to Vegas for a couple days. Yeah, they're doing the pizza thing. I got to say, Frankie's not here to hear this, but Frankie might be the hardest working man in show business who gets very little credit for it. Yeah, we can compliment him now that he's not here.

Correct. I would never compliment him to his face. What do you even think about it? But he is the hardest working man in show business. I mean, he goes anywhere you ever see folks out there who follow Barstool and follow Dave Portnoy, wherever you see Dave and whatever Dave's doing, Frankie's always there.

And then also, whatever we're doing with a podcast, Frankie as much as possible, is also there. And then he was on spitting chicklets yesterday. He's on radio today, battling against like Sean Avery defendants and all that stuff. So Frankie, hardest work-manage showbiz. He legitimately stayed in here for as long as he possibly could about the podcast. Yeah, if he stayed in any longer, he was going to miss his flight.

So he's gone. If folks remember the What's Up Doc segment from last week. A name's so bad that I guess we're just using it. It's so bad we have to use it. This guy, Dr. Benny emailed me. Okay. And we do. I said after my knee incident, it turns out we have a ton of doctors who follow and listen to the show.

Slash ex-athletes. People were not happy either when I called them. I said, I go, I guess I'll have a doctor. Some of them were just kind of like physical therapists. One guy was like, I went to school for eight years to get my doctorate in physical therapy. And Riggs just goes, and we had some doctors calling, well, they're actually not doctors, just physical therapy. Well, it's probably true in most cases because I know a lot of my friends are physical therapists. I don't know if I have any doctor friends.

So there's just more physical therapists out there, and they're probably emailing the show. So I apologize for that. However, we, if you remember, we talked about the temple. We didn't understand the physics and the anatomy behind the temple. We were wondering why people aren't walking around in helmets. If the temple is so important, why are we not protecting it 24-7? Because it basically the way it's portrayed to us was like the temple was basically a death button. If someone just pushed your temple, you die.

And as a guy who I live with Robbie Fox, he's a big MMA guy. There were a ton of fights this weekend. The temple is a very real thing that you do not want touch. Really? They just get knocked in the temple and they just drop. Gone. It's just over. And the other one was the hot tub.

I said that my dad always taught us as kids You got to keep your heart above the water level In the hot tub because it's really dangerous We didn't know any of the science behind any of this stuff Dr. Ben sent one of the better emails I've ever received And it finishes with a good little story Okay so obviously big golf guy He goes one of my favorite things in the universe

Is dispelling commonly held beliefs in the world of medicine In an emergency physician I'm an emergency physician At a busy urban level one trauma center Located in Middle America What's up Trent Calming people down who are on the brink of panic simply because they are experiencing a symptom, they believe is fatal,

but ultimately is a benign problem is one of the most fulfilling aspects of my job. Okay. I feel right at home answering the two questions posed in today's podcast. Do I die when I am struck in the temple? Answer, no. He goes, however, this is the part of the skull where the bone is the thinnest, and most importantly, a very significant artery is located in this area. This particular artery, when damage from a nearby shard of fractured skull,

leads to a high pressure bleeding and the development of the most deadly type of... Do it. Intracranial hemorrhage? I think I nailed that. I think you crushed it. And then he writes head bleed in parentheses. There you go.

Called an epidural hematoma. I think that's right too. You don't want this. That's what he says after that. So in short, there is no death button located in the temple. But of all the places I would choose to be smoked by a golf, ball, this is the least desirable. So what I'm hearing is when you get hit in the temple, it's a thin bone.

Yep. And there's an artery behind that bone that gets severed when you get hit in the temple, causing your head to fill with blood. Which I think that second step people don't know about. People just think if you get hit in the temple, you're like brain explodes. It's like, yeah, it's an explode button. Turns out it's kind of like a double bad luck thing. Yeah.

Because the temple, it's thin. And then there's also a really important artery there. And if those two things go wrong, it's. slices open, you're bleeding in your brain, that's really bad. Which, by the way, the human body, I think, is pretty good in terms of how it was, how it's put together, and, you know, we got fingers, we got arms, everything kind of works correctly. I know what you're going to say.

For it, for that to be, to be like the button right there, for it to be the thinnest bone and also a very important artery behind it, the design is just a little off. We've got to talk to our engineering team. Yeah. That was a miss. Over all the years of adapting, we couldn't, like, thicken up that part of the skull. That's like when the Death Star, you'd think the, you'd think the, the that would have been harder to blow up.

Yeah. They're just like, no, if you just shoot, like, one little, what do they call them? What are their guns called? They don't call them. Blasters? Blaster. Yes. You shoot one blaster just through this hole.

It just blows up the entire Death Star. Yeah. Like, why don't you put like a piece of metal in front of that thing? So the blaster would just blow something else up. I couldn't agree more. Same with the temple. They got to put that somewhere else. Which is why we should probably be wearing helmets.

Second one. Second one, is it dangerous sitting in a hot tub at my heart submerged below the surface? Yes and no. Dr. Ben says, both drinking booze and sitting in a hot tub caused the development of something called vasodilation. Yeah, it's my best shot at that. Picture the red hue that your boy's skin develops after several hours of drinking or several minutes in a hot tub. This isn't an overly dangerous problem by itself, but mixing the two together, alcohol and this, can lead to worsening vasodilation and eventually syncope. All right, hold on.

We're passing out. Okay. I was going to say, if we're going to do what's up doc and doctors are going to email in, you've got to break that shit down for us. You've got to give us layman's terms. You can't be. Riggs, I think his head is going to explode if he keeps reading these words. The way I get it, vasodilation is when you get the red hue.

And syncope, syncopy, you know, it was passing out. Okay. So just dumbing it down there. Basically, the redness of the skin is all of your blood being diverted away from the important organs to your skin to help with cooling. I understand that. If not enough blood flows to the brain, you pass out. If no one can save you in a hot tub because you've passed out, you drown and die. I see.

Get it? Yeah. You just don't want to pass out in the hot tub because you'll drown. Correct. And if you're drinking and you're in the hot tub for too long, you may pass out without having any warning that you're going to pass out. Right. Because of this weird combination of your drinking and all the blood is rushing to your skin, I guess,

to cool you down instead of going to your brain. brain, you'll pass out in the hot tub. If you pass out, no one's there, you'll drown, and that's bad. If you're drinking alone in a hot tub, that also points to other issues. Definitely. You should have be there in there with your friends. Definitely. And then, Dr. Ben, also had a story.

He said about seven or eight years ago, I had a patient brought in by an ambulance for a leg fracture. He was a pretty normal-looking guy, and he was clearly wearing golf clothes and spikes, the hat, all of it. I'm a golfer, so I obviously felt sympathy for the guy, and in the process of getting him off the ambulance, caught. We struck up a conversation about what happened.

He told me that he simply took a massive cut at the ball off the tee with driver, and as he was following through, he felt, and more disgustingly heard, a huge crack. Basically, the guy swung so hard that he sustained a spiral fracture of the femur, which is he strong his bone in the body. First I thought you said spinal fracture, and I was like, that's a real issue. He legitimately broke his femur because he swung so hard of the golf ball. You almost got to wonder why that doesn't happen more often. People swing so hard.

Have to. How could that be possible? I see people swing like fucking clowns all the time. They just swing as hard as they possibly can. Nobody bust their femur like that. Which were obviously fans of hit it hard, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. But you're your, I can't believe I've never heard of that before.

Broke his femur? As you breaking your femur? Swinging a golf club? Not even because you hit anything. You just swung too hard. It's like, you got to make up a story after that. You should have been like, I got run over or something. Yeah.

Like I swung too hard. Maybe he did. Now that I think about it, Dr. Ben, might have been lied, too. might have been lied to, Dr. Ben. He could have definitely been lied to. Nice guy, Dr. Ben, we appreciate the submissions. That was what's up, Doc.

I feel good about it. Like I said before, I think, and he did it a little bit. You got to dumb it down so we know, because you were saying words that could have been made up. I will say I should have, I think I should have relayed the way he dumped it down better, because he put, after all these words I couldn't pronounce, he put in parentheses what they really mean. I should have just led with that.

Okay, yeah. So he did it correctly. He did it correctly. I didn't read it correctly. I see. That's what's up, Doc. There's a chance that's on me. That's what's up, Doc.

You got any medical ailments going on right now that you need people to write in about? You're good? Good. I think I'm good right now too. Pretty healthy lately. Well, I don't know about relatively healthy. My only thing is I keep hurting myself when I sleep. I sleep in the wrong way.

Jake's shaking. Is that happened to you too, Jack? Yeah, I wake up the past week and a half every morning I've woken up and my, whatever side I sleep on, that, like, shoulder and arm are like, uncomfortably numb and it just feels very warm. Yes, I feel the same way. And then it ruins my week. And it's not because of the bed that I have or anything like that

because I've had it over multiple beds now. But when I sleep in the wrong way and I get in that position, it fucks me up for like a week and a half. And I just can't like, it hurts my arm. Do you guys sleep with pillows? Yeah, I sleep with a body pillow and then two pillows. I sleep, I don't sleep with a body pillow. Maybe I should get one of those.

But you've got the same problem I do. That's really curious. I was talking to a friend this weekend who said that they, pretty much every morning they wake up, they always have like a neck or an arm issue, but they don't sleep on pillows. They sleep like, they sleep just on the mattress. Like, they have pillows, but they never use them. I think I'm more in that school.

I sleep with a pillow behind me, and then the pillows are just kind of everywhere else. So guess what? Luckily, we have what's up, Doc. Yes. You guys both have the same fucking issue going on right now? I swear to God. So you just, you wake up, arm, non-exam. What else?

I'm more sore. Like, if I, I think it has to do with the way that I'm sleeping. I just get in the wrong position and I stay there for long enough where I wake up and that side is sore. I just have this image of you two sleeping like a fucking pretzel. How are you guys not knowing how to sleep? The way that I sleep. We've been doing this forever. Literally the easiest thing that you did.

Literally since I said we were born. Sleep. It is. I can't explain to you guys. It's the meanest and, like, moment. I can't face my enemy because I'm asleep. Like I'm awake during the day. I know what's going on.

I fall asleep and it's my biggest enemy. And I can't combat it because I'm asleep. If you bake it up being like, you got me again to sleep. God damn you. It's a very helpless feeling to go to bed and being like, I can't do anything about this because I'm sleeping. Man, that is a bummer.

It's just, it's hard for me to wrap my head around how you just sleep. You're just getting hurt asleep. Your injury, like, just stop playing hockey. Yes. Like, it just goes away. I can't, me and Jake, we can't stop sleeping. I'll be a mess if I don't sleep enough. How severe are we talking here?

It's severe enough where it'll linger for a week, week and a half. Holy shit. I just wake up. The second I stand up and the blood gets like rushing, but the first five, ten minutes of when I wake up, it's not fun. Oh, Jake's a poser. Ten minutes. I'm not a poser, but it hurts.

Since fucking disabled for a week and a half over here. It hurts. If it happens every day, how are you disabled for a week? Is it just continuous? Well, no, because right now I'm apparently in a good enough groove when I sleep, then I'm not hurting myself. But it could happen tonight and I'll be out of commission for a week. At a commission, I just like, I sit at my desk and I'm like, hey, my fucking neck hurts.

Right. At the end of the world, but still, but you don't want to get hurt every time you sleep. You just, you don't, which is, it happens. That is a shame. I'm really sorry to hear that, Trent. Thank you. Well, for what's up, Doc, next week, somebody emails. Let us know what's going on with Trent and Jake.

They had some sort of issue that can't sleep without getting hurt, which is a real bummer. From the gallery. Let's go through a couple from the galleries. I know we've already been at about an hour, but we've got a ton of from the galleries. People have an email on the shit out of us. It's early. We're creeping up. We're very much creeping up on golf season, like for the average person golf season.

It's March 4th as we're recording this. It's going to be March 5th when this pod comes out. You start to get into April. The Masters pretty much after the. masters it's it's green light for everybody um for the most part no matter where he are we do have a lot of Canadian listeners so probably not for you guys but still we're getting closer so a lot of people are submitting from the galleries for play at barstualsports.com I get a million DMs and tweets at us what's the what's the email for the front of the gallery it's four play at parcel sports.com

Tyler submitting this this one he said the coliard classic is this week you guys have to discuss the coligard as the new sponsor of this past weekend's champions tour event on the podcast this week. Now, I looked it up. It's a colon cancer screening made easy. The only reason I could possibly imagine that Tyler would email us this is like, do you shove the Collegard up your ass or something? I'm confused by the question.

Coler Guard. Coler Guard sponsored a... Was the new sponsor of a Champions Tour event, I believe, this past weekend. Okay. And all his email said was, you guys have to discuss Colergaard. as the new sponsor of this past weekend's champion tour event on the podcast this week. That's all he wrote, which leads me just to believe,

based off this podcast, the type of listener that we have, the type of things that we discuss, this thing has to be something where you like, you have to. You have to insert it somewhere. I mean, there's just no way you don't have to. It's got a cute name. It's got a very cute mascot.

I'm looking at the website right now. They made it like this friendly guy that you shove up your ass. I don't know if that's the case. I know nothing about this. No clue. However, there's just, like, if I'm putting two and two together, we don't get that email from somebody unless something like that has to happen with this thing. And this website has all the makings of, yeah, it's going to be fine.

You do this. It's very cute. That means something uncomfortable is going to happen. 100%. And it's, it's a, what, a Champions Tour sponsor. Oh, yeah. You start getting up to that point where they check your colon, stick a couple fingers up your butt, which we're not there yet, right?

No. I don't think so. Okay. What age? I'm going to say. 40? 40? That's not that bad, actually.

I was thinking a little older than that. So anybody, look, I don't know exactly what the deal is. I looked for like two seconds at the website. And like you said, it looked like they're trying to make it this fun, friendly thing, not harmful, not a problem, not painful, not painful. Now, just you're a little buddy. And I guess, based off what I saw, I think, you know, you might shove the thing up, you know, your ass. It's like when you're a kid.

You don't think so? You don't think so, Jay? No, you collect the DNA through your stool. You got to go digging through your shit. I like it, Jurassic Park. Yes. When what's his name's sick, the rhino? Yes.

So that's what it is. Okay. We knew it was going to be something you don't want to do. It's not as bad as shoving up your ass. Are you sure? Digging? What do you got to? Buddy, I would way rather.

You put a little couple gloves on and just dig through my shit real quick for a second. Not great, but other than shoving something on my ass. ass? I don't know where I live. You'd rather shove it up your ass? I don't want to go, no pun intended. I just think the thought of, like,

digging through my own shit doesn't feel very fun to me. I didn't say it's fun. I'm comparing the two. Yeah, and I've never really, I can't tell you last time I've had something shoved up my ass, Jake. Me neither. I don't want to start.

Yeah, it's a four. Yeah, at least, you know, you know what you're getting into when you're digging through shit. You're digging through shit. I've dug through some disgusting stuff before. I've picked up dog poop before. Yeah, you just got to do,

like, it's not. not great, but again, it's something that I can at least do. I kind of know it's gross, but fine, whereas I don't know that I want to be penetrated myself with that friendly little Coligard guy that was on the fucking website right there. Did you ever have to take pills up your butt? Never. I never did either, but my best friend did when we were kids, and I thought that was the scariest thing ever.

He was like, you have to think, there's a, the medical term for it is, this can maybe be what's up, doc. You can say, like, well, how do they say it? Suppository. Suppository. That's another one of those where it's like, what is that? That doesn't sound too bad. and it's like you got to shove this thing up your butt.

Yeah, I've heard a suppository. It's not good. You're right. You convince me. I'd rather go, yeah, I'd rather go digging through my shit than have something put up my butt. What's up, Doc, might be gaining some traction here. Pretty popular stuff. Like, there's just a lot of medical questions.

I have, well, we have a lot of medical questions. We have so many medical questions that we're starting at, I don't know how to sleep. That's a very low bar that we have said. So what's up, Doc, we're only going to do more. Yeah, that's the depth of our medical knowledge is we don't. we don't know how to sleep without getting hurt. Well, you and Jake, though. I do.

It's quite an enemy to have. Golf domes. I got a ton of messages about golf domes. Apparently they're just everywhere where it's really cold. Yeah, we said only in Buffalo. Yep. We had only heard of them from this one listener in Buffalo. People were Minnesota, Detroit, Toronto.

I got a couple in Iowa. A couple people. Iowa, I'm sure. Yeah. And basically, yeah, they just said they're just like they put a big dome. A lot of times over like a fairway on a golf course or something. Yeah.

And they have nets at the end of a lot of them and you can rip clubs further than that, but it's just a dome where you basically just hit golf balls. That's pretty much it. So we got to the bottom of the golf dome thing. I also saw another thing. A lot of people fired up about the master's hypothetical. Would you not play golf until you're 50 if that meant your son would win the master's?

Somebody called her in the radio show to yell at me on Friday, about how selfish and dumb of an answer that was. See, I thought more people would have been cited with you. Because we are listenership is. a golf heavy group who love golfing, they try to go out every weekend, and for them to be like, I'll give it up for the next 25 years

so my son can then win. I get that it's a big thing to have your son on the masters, but I don't think they're thinking clearly on how much golf they play. I just don't think so either. And I think you're not thinking clear about how much of a gap in your life

it would be like all these buddies trips. They're going to golf trips. You can't go. I mean, you don't play golf. On the weekend, like I'm going to wake up on Saturday and Sunday and just, what am I going to do? I don't know. Not going to play golf.

Yeah. For all winter. Like, I said they're all winter and I think like, all right, we're only a month out from golf season. God, there's going to be a time where we walk outside with shorts on or with just like maybe a pullover on or we're going to the course. And we could do that for the next like eight months straight. It's going to be awesome. That's what gets me through every winter. I'm just, that's just not going to exist.

The idea of having your son win a green jacket, having a green jacket in your lineage, I understand it's very enticing. But I don't think people are, they're not thinking realistically about. They're just not. Buddy's trips, I think if you brought that up to most people, they'd be like, oh, well, then no, I got, I have to go on my buddy. Yeah, and a lot of people are calling it selfish. Duh, like the definition of the lot, almost every hypothetical you come up with is you're making a decision. What are you-based decisions off of how it will affect you in your life? That's why, like, these hypotheticals exist.

So, of course, it's a selfish decision. But I also, I don't, yeah, I just, I didn't, I didn't expect the amount of blowback that we got. People were very upset. Very upset about it. People call it very selfish. They were like, you're crazy selfish. And I was like, I don't even have a son yet. Like, I get that it's hypothetical.

I will have a son and someone. And what's to say, maybe all of the golf that you play in your 30s up until you have a son, then you teach him. Maybe you fucking wins the Masters anyway. All the knowledge you have. Really good point. There's no guarantee that he doesn't win the Masters if you pick, I'm going to play golf now, as opposed to waiting. Imagine if I do that and he does win, and I'm like, thank God I'd make that deal. Because now I got to play and then he just won.

That would feel about. bad is you would have to track down all the Twitter accounts, all of the email addresses who were mean to you and called you selfish. Or think about how brutal would be if he's like in the final group and collapses. People are like, never heard from him again. It scars him for life and it's like, well, Riggs-y. Hey, remember 23 years ago on a podcast, you said this? It's like, yeah. That would be tough.

A relationship would be in trouble. Big time. Thanksgiving would be terrible. Really bad. Jonathan had a golf dream. He said, and we love golf. dream. We've talked about a many, many, many times in this show. We've read a lot of funny ones. I've talked about my recurring one on several occasions where I go, I'm on the master's, I'm on the

first tee, and I just can't pull the trigger. Something always happens. The ball blows off the tea. There's a horn of my background. There's cars driving by. Just something happens. I never get to hit the tee ball like I'm fucking Kevin Nah, who we had on the show. Nice guy. But like I'm Kevin now, I got the Eips. I just can't play golf on the first tee. That's my master's dream. It's my recurring golf dream. Jonathan says, I've had a golf dream where we all are playing in a group. It's Riggs, Frankie, Trent, and myself. Everything was going great until on one hole I had a short two-foot slider, and as I hit the ball, it misses low and rolls 20 yards off the green. From this point, everyone starts making fun of me, and out of nowhere, Frankie has

his big camera recording for content, while Riggs says, no one is going to believe you just did that. As I sprint to chip the ball back onto the green, the three of you decide to just continue your round without me. I had an amazing flop that spins back and falls into the cup. I feel like I have my redemption. Getting back to the cup to get my ball, the cup, I shit you not, is five feet deep and I can't get the ball out of the cup. I look up to find you all, and you are gone, and my bag is just sitting by the green. I've had this dream twice, and honestly, I have no idea what to make of it.

Golf fucks with your mind, huh? Oh, big time. Remember the other one? We were on the dining room table, on the T-box of the British Open. We got into a pretty serious argument about that, because me and Frankie could not grasp that there was this kitchen table. That was really frustrating trying to explain. You were, you, that's maybe the maddest I've seen.

Well, I was like, it's a dream, guys. Like, there's a table on a, it's a just a dream. Why would there be a table at the British Open? You were like, it's a dream. It's a fucking dream. I don't know. We're inside this, Chris's head or whoever it was. But you're right.

We've got this next one. People are having wild dreams. Golf messes with your brain. Big time messes with your brain. But this one, I feel like we really get portrayed as assholes. We were bullies in that scenario. Yeah. We were fucking with him.

Frankie was filming him and laughing at him. And then we just left. I don't mind us filming. I don't mind. us laughing at him when he hits a bad chip and making fun of him. That's all fair game with us. That's what makes golf fun. It's buddies, you know, busts each other's balls, locker room talk.

We're having a good time out there. Us leaving the green while he's got a flash shot is ruthless. I mean, Jonathan, we're sorry. I want to take this opportunity to apologize. What's his name? Jonathan. Jonathan. I'm sorry, we did that.

Me too. We should have stuck around. You made the flop shot. We didn't even see your shot and the fact that we're gone and then we could have helped you get it out of a hole. The hole's five feet deep. Yeah. All those things could have been avoided if we would have just hung around. So I apologize.

That was a mistake. We apologize. We apologize. We apologize in behalf of Frankie. We're sorry. Yeah. Foreplay pod apologizes. Yes. That's our official statement.

All right. Next up this week, we've got Bay Hill. Obviously, our palmer, invitational. Big gaping hole in the event. Tiger Woods is fucking hurt. That's another thing I was going to say earlier. Not only is Tiger out, not only did he withdraw, not only is he hurt. Not only is there potentially a massage parlor scandal right above his head.

But now we're going to hear about it all weekend how Tiger was supposed to be. here. Oh, you get. That's all they're going to say. Dude, and I mean, when he hits, if he plays the players next week and when he hits that first tee shot on Thursday, do you know how nervous we're going to be watching his neck, watching his back? It's like we're doing this whole thing. That's the thing. That's what people aren't realizing and people like us realize because we've been

through it so many times. It's all the little things. It's, oh, we've been here before. Oh, the press releases are going to continually get worse and more severe. And then if he does play, what you would think would be a joyous occasion, you're watching every little thing. When he walked out there with that KT tape on, you and I about had a heart attack. And now we got to deal with, and he wasn't hurt then, and he was like, I'm not hurt.

Now he is hurt. Was that the British Open? Yes. Yeah, when he first came out of the KT tape on, and then that first shot, remember he got grass in his eyes, and it looked like he was wincing? That is a moment that only you and I, I think, share. The rest of the world just didn't see it, but he got something in his eye. It looked like he winced at his back, and you and I shot each other a look, and then

just nothing came of it. That was the darkest moment of the year, and then he almost won the golf turn. one, which hopefully we can take that positive into it. I guess, yeah. This will be a great week. This tournament's awesome, but it just won't be the same now. I mean, we got Rory, like so, we got all this firepower, all these big names. The course is awesome.

The 18th. The 18th hole is iconic with the stone and like wall right there, the rock wall, and all the pts that have made made there, mostly by Tiger Woods, who's not going to be in tournament now because he's injured, which is rattling. But anyways, big tournament on the PJ tour. We will be back on Thursday. Of course, two shows a week now. Reminder, go to store.

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