Fore Play - Tiger, Troll Time, & One’s True Age

Episode Date: December 16, 2021

What do we expect from Tiger & Charlie Woods this weekend? How do people handle online trolls? Why do people online troll? Who are these people? What is their end game? What’s the ideal par-3 yardage? How old do you feel vs how old are you actually? Do you ever feel older than you actually are? Wedding question: Live band or DJ?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm by Barstool Sports. We are back as myself, Frankie, and Trent. I got this new light, you'll be honest, it's very distracted. It feels like somebody took the sun and just brought it right in front of my face for the entire podcast. So I'm looking, everything's different than it's ever been, all the other 300 shows you've ever done. I think it looks better.

My issue that I would run with is all my lights in my apartment come from the ceiling and I like to wear a hat. So I would just have a shadow over my face and now I got a light in my face. I think it looks better. I think it looks better. That's showbiz, baby. You know, you got to look your best at all times. Frankie knows that. Yep.

That's Broadway, baby. Bright lights. 19 bucks on Amazon, this little light thing was. I think it's pretty good. It's got like seven different switches. I don't know what those are. I guess they, it was not, it was too hot. Is that what you were saying?

here? Too hot? It looked like a surgical light. Like it's too sterile. And then you got to press a couple buttons to warm it up a little bit so you don't look like you're about to go onto the knife, which I think you have figured out. Yeah, we had to warm it up. You're right.

That was the terminology. We warmed it up. So I had one, but it's dead. That's so you can see there's a dark spot right here, you know? Oh, yeah. I could definitely see that, you know? Look at my fucking view right now. I'm going to send you guys this view, taking a picture of my view.

I mean, it's, it's just very distracting, having that fucking life. You can take it down. No, I like it. I like it. I think it's better. I just, you know, it's change. For me, it's, it's change. It's something that's brand new.

So, yeah, I'm sitting that to you guys right now. And yeah, it's just quite different. Anyways, we're going to talk a little bit about, you see that? It's like, that's like a UFO is about to abduct me or something. It's blinding me and trying to disorient myself. and then trying to do the podcast. But hey, it's a big week, Tiger Woods. So we're going to speak to you now.

We are speaking into your eardrums. The following time that we do, Tiger Woods will have played another golf tournament with his son Charlie. There's an enormous amount of anticipation. The mannerisms, that video is going re-viral. PGA Tour did like a re-re-viralness of it, which we can get into.

So we got obviously PNC to talk about. We got several from the galleries to speak about every time I've ever said that phrase, we never get to any of them. So we'll see. The last show we did on Tuesday, we spoke no golf, pretty much none whatsoever on this very golf podcast, one of the great golf podcasts in the world. So we'll see what the fuck we get to. Anyways, Owens Mixers went to the Monday night football on obviously Monday night in Arizona. And yeah, it checks out. And their kind of cocktail of the stadium was the barstool transfusion by Owens mixers, which is extremely cool to see.

I know that they have the Owens mixer, the transfusion, all that, at the Islander's new rank, which Trent's one and O at? Is that a correct record? It's correct. He's one and O. He's seen the only win at UBS Arena. And now that has carried into the locker room where they, the team in the organization knows that Trent might have something to him.

And they're not letting that slide by. So for tomorrow's night game, tomorrow night's game, which. is tonight when you're listening to this, Trent will be in the building again as a guest of the New York Islanders. Because at this point, like, you have to pull out all the stops. If Trent was the difference, he has to be there for every game. If they lose tomorrow, we kick him to the curb and it's over. The season's over.

So, but if they win tomorrow, Trent might go on a miracle run here at UBS Arena. So yes, they do have Owens Mixers at UBS. It's the cocktail mixer of UBS and the Islanders. So it seems like it's popping up everywhere. CVS is, it's all over the place. No matter where you go, you can see that little transfusion logo. It's pretty remarkable. So yeah, you can use GoPuff.

You can get that thing same day delivery. You could get Amazon and do it the next day. Owensmixers.com. You go check that site out. They got the store locators, so you could pick it up anywhere you would like. And it's not just the transfusion. If you want to mix it up, no pun intended. They've got grapefruit and lime, make cucumber in line.

They got a margarine mix. They got really, really good stuff. Pour it in with your favorite. liquor and you just have a great cocktail it's that simple they got um you know you can order uh even different kind of kits that'll give you a few different bells and whistles to really spice up your cocktail and make it elite um but it's already elite with our mixer so great work by owns we appreciate them very much um ban of dunes episode three uh sheep ranch will be coming out tonight when you are listening to the show on our youtube channel um we'll be in there there we do the premiere for the

first, you know, hour, I believe 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time is when we're going to be launching that on, again, our YouTube 4Play Golf Go. Check us out if you have not already put a lot of videos on there. Sheep Ranch is, of course, the newest Bannon Dunes Golf Course. They have five courses ranked inside the top 100 in the United States of America. Sheep Ranch is their newest, opened a little over a year ago, like a year and a half ago. Core Crenshaw, it has the most, I believe, nine green sites are on the ocean. on the cliffs. It's got staggering views.

No bunkers. It's the highest in terms of elevation and exposure at all the courses on Bannadduon. So you're just perched up in every angle. You're looking down the cliff line. You're looking over all the waves, the rugged waves, crashing into the rocks from high, high above. It's stunning. And it's got the best opening hole by far.

And we get out there and we play it and we film it and we do our fucking thing on YouTube. So check that out. I don't often get to say this, so I'm going to take this opportunity now. I played really well. Oh, yeah. I certainly on the front nine and then we get to the back nine and whatever, but I don't get to say that very often. So I played really well if you want to see me actually play good golf.

I know in the last video, I may or may not have whiffed on a ball, which is so funny because we make these, we shoot these videos, and then they don't come out for a couple months, and I kind of forget what happens. We talk about golf brain on this show. Riggs remembers every shot. I remember none of the shots. and I was watching that last episode abandoned and I and I just whiffed on that ball didn't

didn't even touch it didn't get any part of it and that was embarrassing a lot of people watch that a lot of people saw that so now sheep ranch you go watch this one tonight I play better and I hopefully redeem myself although it's hard to come back after a full-time whiff in front of hundreds of thousands of people when I saw you whiff I was stunned when I saw you on YouTube whiff I was stunned I had forgotten I didn't know that that it really occurred. I wasn't there to witness it in person, and we kind of talked about it.

But again, I just like, ha, ha, whatever he kind of whiffed. He swung really hard on a ball just sitting on the fairway and you just, you just didn't, you didn't come close to actually contact you. The ball wasn't moving, dude. The ball was.

It's like someone pulled a string from under you on the ball. It was like one of those little mousetraps. It's, it's, you know, with my golf game, it's five steps forward, 18 steps back sometimes. Just it goes, when it goes bad, it goes really, really bad.

Like, I think the fundamentals of my game are far better. And that's all thanks to John Tiller, just teaching me and grinding it into my head how to swing a golf club properly. But then sometimes I just forget what's going on and the bunker incident happens. Or I completely swing and miss on a ball or all these tragic things happen to me every once in a while. Hopefully they happen, you know, fewer and far between since I've had lessons. but they're still going to happen. And every once in a while I'm going to whiff where I'm going to hit into the biggest sand dune on planet Earth and have to climb up it and hit out of it a couple times. It's just my game is just up and down almost more than anybody else's.

Yeah. And you're playing in front of a lot of people on screen. That's not the easiest thing to do. When we have these premieres, we're in the chat. I'm always mixing it up with the people in the chat. I was going absolutely hard in the paint with people last time. I'm cursing them out. They're cursing me out.

I love it. It's just the mud on YouTube and we just hate each other. You still put people in time out? You still putting people in time out? So I've been watching the last couple ones on my phone so I don't have the access. But maybe tomorrow night, oh tomorrow and I won't be able to. I'll probably watch it. I'll probably have it on during the Islander game. So I'll have it on my phone. But when I watch it on my laptop, I have the access to put people in 120 second timeouts. I let them think about what they've done and then they can join the classroom again. But it's fun. It's fun to just like shit on people that are shitting on you and then they shit on you for shitting on them and then you're all just friends at the end you say thanks for watching the video we'll see you next week um but yeah there's all

like there's there was one moment where like we just must have miscounted my shot and i was sitting six instead of five and like we just and they couldn't fucking get over that and i'm like it's match play i was out of the hole anyway like yeah i understand that there's probably i was probably one stroke off but there's so many times where we pick up anyway match play is match play it's a certain style of golf. And for the fact that all these people watch that and they're like, well, that was a gimmie. Like, that wasn't a gimmie. It's like, well, we were out of the hole.

We picked up. Like, that's what all your favorite fucking golfers on tour do when, on the week, when they have weeks off and they just play with their buddies. You think they're fucking playing ball and hole? You think all your favorite hockey players they go out there and play on the fucking weekends? You think they play ball and hole? Like, that's just the game of golf that you all play that you're listening

to. We just happen to have a camera following us every single shot we take. So it's going to look like, oh, wow, that guy's picked up. Like, well, the guy just gave it to me strategically because he didn't want me to put it because Lurch is behind me putting for four. I'm putting for five. They're not giving it to me because I'm going to give them the read.

Learn the game for one second. That's why I stay out of that. I stay out of the chat. I don't get into it with these folks. The worst part, Frankie, is that if it were to go the other way where you're grinding and lining it up, then they'd be bitching about pace of play. They'd be like, these fucking assholes are holding up the entire golf courses. Look, match play 100%.

you're saying match play is match play. Now, yeah, you're going to and you're supposed to try to record the most accurate score that you can, post every score you play for your handicap. We're playing the way that everybody plays. Everybody. If you are sitting there grinding over a four or five or six foot put for bogey or double when your team is already in for par, if it's a hole where your group is way ahead, you guys are flying, fine. If it's a normal round of golf where everyone's out there at the resort,

everyone's trying to move along and keep going and there's win and it's going to be grinding, and you're trying to play in 415 or 430, you should be picking that ball up 100% of that time. And a lot of times it's just a good feeling to go partner, great par, this four footers for bogey, scoop it, move to the next hole. That's enjoying golf. And guess what? The only reason we fucking play golf,

the only reason we talk about golf is to enjoy the whole thing. If you want to pick up 40 footers and the other guys in your match are fine with it, go ahead and pick up 40 footers. Why would I care what you pick up? Who gives a fuck is the, at the end of the day, who gives a fuck? And also, like, they're like, Oh, that wasn't that. You're trying to be someone you're not.

I'm not trying to be anything on the golf course. I'm trying to get that ball in the hole. And if I don't, I don't give a fuck. And I know that may sound like you don't want to hear that. I don't care when that ball gets in that hole. I like to play the game of golf. I don't care how.

Yeah, like at certain times I get frustrated because I think it could get in that hole quicker. But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to be someone that that wants to be the person that gets the ball in hole quicker. Like, I just want to be the person that golfs. That's genuinely what I want to do. I just want to golf. I don't know what comes with that. I don't know what the outcome of that is.

Just like Trent does. We can all learn a little something from Trent and breaking 100. You go out there and you just try and play the game of golf. I said that to him a million times during that series. Let's stop trying to make a score and let's try and play the sport. Like, what are we doing? It's the only sport where you're like actively trying to think about like every single part of the outcome. Like you really do that in fucking hockey?

No. They always say don't look at the same. scoreboard, boys, we're just going to play our system. We're going to keep pounding the goalie. Every shot you take, it doesn't matter where it goes. Let's just get pucks on net. That's what we do in golf. We just fucking figure it out.

Start of the third period. You could be up three nothing. It's zero, zero, boys. Every time you come out of the locker, you go, zero, boys. Here we go. We got to grind this one out. I just try and play the sport, man. That's all I try and do.

If at the end of the day, you don't like that, or you don't like what my scores, or you think that I think my score was too low or too high. I don't give a fuck. I just try and get that ball in the hole. and I like to have fun. That's it. That's what I try and do every single time I go out there.

And that's what everyone should do, man. No, it's right. Because early on in breaking 100 or maybe halfway through it, we started to get caught up on the numbers. Like after five holes, we'd be crunching the numbers with a calculator. And at a certain point, you were just like, let's just go out there and play 18 holes and see what the score is at the end. And then once we're done there, and if it's under 100, we celebrate.

If it's not, we come out here next week and we do the same thing over and over again. But let's not stress over the number or gimmies or any of that shit. It's just like go out there. And if you whiff, you whiff. Like I put, like, I was saying it jokingly, but like, you definitely whiffed. Like, I was saying it jokingly, but like I, we could have, I could have had that footage shot into the sun. Like, if I was just like, oh, I'm embarrassed by this.

Like, I actually don't want to put that out there. I don't want to deal with, like, what people are saying. I actually, I honestly don't give a fuck. Like, I wanted to put that out there. tons of people saw it tons of people were like oh i've done that before it ends up being like a relatable moment the most embarrassing thing you do on a golf course you feel shame for no reason because if you actually if people watch it the majority of the response will be i've done that before because you know what golf is fucking hard it's really hard also that's such a great point like every think if you're a

listener and a watcher of our youtube videos and you think of every single embarrassing moment that's come out on those videos or on this podcast. You also have to remember that we've been given the option to leave that in or take it out. We watch the videos before they come out. We sit down with Brendan and Jake and we see all these things and we get the choice. There's no gun to our head that says like this has to go in. Trent could, Trent could manipulate that footage to be a scratch golfer if he wants to.

Right. You would have no idea. And he goes out there and posts 125s at Bethpage Black. Like that, like, I don't know that the general public would, would sign up for that to be able to do that. Like all the, all the shots of me looking like a fat piece of shit with my barrel hanging out. The picture of me on New Year's Eve last year when I had my fat face, I tweeted that out from one of my friends' accounts who doesn't even have a Twitter. They never would have, my friend's phones who never would have tweeted that out. That never would have seen the light of day.

But you know what? We choose to put these things out because I honestly think it's funny that Trent goes out there and, whiffs on a fucking golf shot because that is what 99% of the people are doing when they go out and play. It's just a fact. If you want to see really good golf, you turn on CBS, you turn on ESPN plus, and you watch the guys who get paid millions of dollars to do it. Why would you want to watch like the in-betweeners? Like the guy who almost fucking gets to be a pro. Like I'd just rather just watch Rory Macroy hit a golf ball. Or I'd rather watch the guy that I would have in my foursome on a Sunday and play with me and shoot the 110.

That's who four play is. There's no, well, I don't want to be the guy that fucking almost shoots the fucking Even score. It's simple. If you're going to have X amount of followers and people watching videos, you're going to have haters and people that chirp and bitch and just say shit. The internet sucks, dude. The internet fucking sucks. No matter what, you go on to any article, any video, go look at the comments.

They suck. Everyone sucks. Everyone's miserable. So we have enough people watching that people are going to be miserable. If you let it get to you, it drives you insane. I mean, I had a guy. on the band and trails video that got to me. I was just clicked on the little icon

on my Instagram comments, you know, and occasionally, you're trying to see anybody interesting, new, follow me or whatever, so you click on that. And one of the comments was just like, under the trails video, I think I shot like 84.

And it was like, oh, it's nice to finally see an accurate, unedited version of a full rigs round where he shoots around in the mid-80s, even though he claims to be this. And I'm like, well, how come that one was it doctored? But like, if I shoot 74 playing with Kevin Kisner

in a tournament where we had to post a school, that like that one's now doctor like no i i've posted a video where i shot 102 and you saw every shot i posted videos where you shoot 74 post every shot like this is we are exactly who we claimed to be and i think that if any one of these motherfuckers came out and we actually took them up on the millions of people that ask us to play a match against them that asks us to pick up our entire lives fly across the world and play a match against them if we played a hundred matches at the end they'd be like actually your handicaps exactly what you said it was you you

posted the scores exactly how you're supposed to. Nobody's editing anything. Post daily nine all the time. Sometimes I miss fucking nine of them. Sometimes you make five of them. Like you're saying, if we were trying to curtail an image of our games, I would just wait until I made all nine and I would just post that every day. I know. I said, like, what do you think we're doing? In this line of work, you have to have, you have to be willing to humiliate yourself in front of hundreds of thousands of people. And I'm totally fine with that. Like I, I genuinely think some of the best shit comes out of that. So all this, this small percentage, again,

we're all saying it, but 99.9% of the people that watch are totally normal and they watch it and then they get on with their day. The other, the other people who freak out about like, oh, they think Frankie's doing this on purpose or, or they critique something that Riggs is doing or they think that I shouldn't be on a show because I whiff on a ball.

Like, who fucking cares about those people? Like, dude, we've got one guy. True. We've got one guy and I've showed you him, Trent. And I want to have him on the. podcast. I know KFC did this with a troll once and it was pretty interesting to hear the inside of

a troll's brain. We've got this one guy that he's he's otherworldly, man. No matter how many times you mute him or block him or anything, he's just there, dude. It's like, it's every tweet of mine, of Trent's, of Riggs, of four plays, of KFCs, of White Sox daves, of, it's just, it's every second of every day to the point where I think 30 people have access to his account. I don't know how it's possible. And it's the meanest, grossest shit. Bro,

I've typed in his name and my name into the advanced Twitter search on Twitter. And it's not to be believed how many times he's tweeted at me. Thousands of it. I guarantee you I just have a muted. Trent taught me the mute button like four and a half, five years ago. I just mute people instantly. You definitely do.

But you, And if you're as crazy as me, you know it's him because whenever you put out of tweet, there's always one response right after. And it's invisible. And it's invisible. So you're like, well, now I have to go and look and see what he said because I want to know what goes through. That's why I have a muted. I don't have to like I don't.

No, but he's muted. All right. He's muted. But you still know his existence is there because he said something so vile that someone responded to him. And when you go to see what the person responded to, it's not there anymore. So like that person's. muted. So you have to then go search his name to see what he said that, that, that had a response from

a normal person. Because usually the response is like, I don't go that far. Bo, this guy, I'm not saying that he's like winning, but he's definitely been so mean that I need to know who he is. I need to see his face. I need to know what kind of person this is that has dedicated their life morning till night to say negative shit about us. I want to know what his end game is. Does he want me to just not be around anyone like what would his what would make him happy if i'm just on the streets like i don't know i don't know what what his end game is and i want to find out i'm getting this guy to come on the podcast why do you want to find out why do you want to find out because i think it's interesting dude it's like it's almost like watching a netflix documentary i want to know what goes on in his brain i'm genuinely

curious of like what what is this guy's day to day life and like because that's a problem that in our generation that we're going to have to deal with forever like you talked about this on the last podcast. Like our kids and our grandkids are going to have to watch me on KFC radio talk about how I want someone to spit in my asshole so much that I turn into a fucking I turn into a water fountain at the mall. Like there's things that they're going to have to see that like we didn't have to deal with that we didn't have to deal with. That's not a generational issue. That's like you said that on a podcast. No, I know. But I'm saying like the internet is just a place that we're going to have to deal with. That's my point is like like and people have grown up on

the internet trying to terrorize people. It's a, that's a massive problem. It's like bullying and fucking there's suicide problems. Like, I want to know what the fuck is wrong with this guy. Like, it's not just a Frankie Borelli problem or a forplay problem or, or like a Barstle problem. I want to know what the mind of an internet troll. What is he thinking when he logs on every day? What's his end game? I want to know. I'm genuinely curious. Obviously, it's rattled me to the point where like, I want to have him on. And I'm okay with saying that. Like, I mean, I think everyone gets rattled by this fucking shit. I want to have this fucking guy on. He's probably going to be too much of a fucking pussy to come on

because he is the number one hater on the planet. I just want to see what he looks like. I want to see what he fucking looks like.