Fore Play - Tiger wins no. 82; will Jack come out of retirement?

Episode Date: October 29, 2019

The Boss Man wins his 82nd tournament, tying Sam Snead's all-time record. We ask the important question: will Jack Nicklaus be forced to come out of retirement to defend his records? We breakdown the ...entire week, debate where Tiger ranks all-time, where he'll finish up, and MUCH more!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Tiger Woods has just won his 82nd, 80-second career PGA tour events over in Japan. First ever, sanctioned, I guess, or official PGA tour event ever in Japan, which is surprising. Tigers won in like a bazillion different countries now. He has tied Sam's need for the all-time PGA tour record for most wins in a career. He's 43 years old. Sneed was like 54 or something somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Tiger's been, he was, of course, at 79 for a very long time. Tour championship got him to 80. The Masters tournament, which was this year, got him to 81. And then this got him to 82. I saw that in the last 14 starts, I think only two players in all the golf have won three times in their last 14 starts. That's Rory McElroy and Tiger Woods. So he's in pretty good company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I saw another tweet that Ian Poulter in his entire PGA Tour career has three wins and Tiger Woods has three in the last year. So go fuck yourself Ian Poulter. There was no need. You could have named any single person in the history of the world that doesn't have more than three wins in their career, but you chose him. It was just a tweet I saw. I didn't do it. I saw that tweet. I saw it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He chose to say it. Well, yeah, it's a stat. My guess is we're going to get into, we're going to shower Tiger Woods with praise on this podcast. And we're going to get to that. And I, but I want to, before we get to that, I want to say congratulations to us. The three of us sitting here for never wavering, never jumping off the bandwagon, never thinking he was, this wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We stayed on the whole time, even before the Masters, even before the Tour Championship, through all the back surgeries and everything else, we never stopped. Remember when you got that DUI, man? Yeah. Those videos were servicing of him like, couldn't even stand up. He's on the hood of the car. That was like a month after he got back surgery, which was like a couple weeks after he thought he was making a comeback. He had looked good at the Hero World Challenge.
Starting point is 00:02:07 He was going to play in a couple of different tournaments. You're thinking he's back now. He had this little surgery. Back surgery out for the year. Going to miss the Masters. DUI. Everybody's making fun of him. We stayed strong.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yep. We stayed so fucking strong. We were like, if you people believe that this guy will not come back, will not get to the top, will not win more golf tournaments. You people are idiots. Of course, some sort of. doubt crept into our brains. He could have fucking just retired. Tiger two, three years ago, he could have just retired.
Starting point is 00:02:33 He doesn't because he's the best. That's why. He does things better than you do. That's Tiger. That's Eldrick Taunt Tiger Woods. Okay. His middle name was Taunt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay. His DUI is a particular dark time for me as well. I was at a wedding in Chicago. And... This could go anywhere. Yeah. It has to do with the... Did the place you were at end up?
Starting point is 00:02:58 burning down to the ground? No, but I told you this story a couple weeks ago where... What's the name of the bar that you went to when you got arrested and now it's no longer there? Moose McDuffies. Moose McDuffies. All-time name. Burnt down to the ground. It burnt down to the ground.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Burned down a couple months later. Trip is still should be the number one suspect for burning that place of the ground. I would never. I love that place. One place where all your demons exist. That place is near and dear to my heart. It was the size of a closet and I just, I loved going there.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Great photo of you from that night. Mugshot? Yep. Yeah. That one's tough. But that's your most What happened this wedding? Back to this.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So wedding, this happened Saturday. It was a Memorial Day weekend that happened to him, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. And it was, you know, I woke up Sunday morning, hung over from this wedding, you know, dreading my flight home. So I was like, I'll just take a quick nap. I'm going to take a quick nap. I'm going to get up and everything's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's the last nap I ever took because I took a nap and I woke up and the news about Tiger Woods' DUI had broken 45 minutes since the time I had taken the nap. So I was behind. And in this business, in the blogging business, you just can't do that. You cannot be behind. I refuse to take naps anymore. That might be the biggest sort of breaking news story in what we do as bloggers here that you, that has existed since you've been here. And it doesn't seem like him winning the Masters isn't breaking news. Like you know that's scheduled.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's going to happen. Yeah. His D. I had not scheduled. No. He's like, like I. And it doesn't seem like that big of a deal in the larger scheme of things. Like, oh, what?
Starting point is 00:04:23 You missed it by 35 minutes. But I remember coming. No, we weren't in New York yet, were we? I can't remember now. But I remember someone saying to me, like, who works here? I'd forget who it was, but being like, what was going on? Why were you, like, 32 minutes late on the Tiger thing? It wasn't Dave, but it was someone.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I was like, I took a nap. I didn't want to. And I woke up in the world. It started to burn. We were, I think, in New York because we had started the podcast, 2017. Yeah. And I remember when we actually did start this podcast. Remember we did one episode where I was like, I got home.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I ate a bunch of McDonald's at, like, 1 a.m. And Tiger was playing golf in Dubai. Yeah. And then, like, the next round of golf, he, like, withdrew and then had back surgery and then got a DUI. So, yeah, we were in New York. What crazy time, man. Long story short, if you're a blogger, don't take naps. And we've come a long way from, and we stayed strong the whole fucking time.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We stayed strong. People made fun of us. They mocked us. They said, I can't believe you losers, you idiots think that this man will be back, that he can ever beat the top young stars, today's generation, that he could ever get back to that level. Well, he's won three times in the last year, basically. You won the Masters tournament. You just won a fantastic year. Great year.
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Starting point is 00:06:21 there's a couple notes in here that I that one of them that I really wanted to say it feels a little wrong doing it while he's not here to defend himself but I got just a very funny email from somebody that just said Lurch is an idiot was the subject and then it said it's 1601 on Thursday's podcast Lurch refers to 12 million people in New York City being a blimp on the radar this comment I saw a lot of comments about this actually people were like did I I wasn't sure if I heard that correctly so I went back and re-listen they're like Lurch thinks it's a blimp on the radar Like a big ship, a blimp, floating through the sky on the radar. Now, it's a blip on the radar, which is, you know, it comes up. Beep, beep, beep, beep. That's where that comes from. It's exactly like my friend that I live with. He just says the wrong words with confidence.
Starting point is 00:07:04 The other day he said, oh, I forgot what have. It could have been about like the wildfires or something. And he goes, man, that's just such a catastrophe. And we're like, you mean catastrophe? You know, I guess if you read it, it's a catastrophe. But boy, is it a catastrophe. But us who have been immersed in the English language for decades of our lives know that it's a catastrophe. A catastrophe sounds like your tires are being slashed.
Starting point is 00:07:30 A catastrophe. You don't know what just happened. It's like somebody pops out of the bushes and they hit you with a catastrophe. I bet play it by ear would get close to like two-thirds people knowing what the correct one is. Play it by ear. Yeah. I know that one. Play it by ear.
Starting point is 00:07:46 That's because like whatever you're hearing, that's how we're deciding how to go about it. But there's definitely people out there. Oh, play it by year. Like, we'll see where we are in a year and we'll assess then. There's definitely many of them that I'm, I know. I probably get wrong. Blip on the radar is one that I do. Blimp on the radar is hysterical.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Really good. It's a blimp on the radar. Just, just huge. Just a huge blimp on the radar. Really good. And because blip on the radar, that's like something small, right? Yeah, a little blip. It's really, if you were saying blimp, like, it's a large thing on the radar.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's like, that's the opposite of what you're going for. Do you think he genuinely thought it was blimp on the radar? Do you think he misspoke? I think he thought it was blimp. A blimp on the radar There's a blimp on the radar I think that's what he thinks That's not a plane
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's not a bird That's a blimp On the radar Good year blimp Blimps You know how fast I was fucking thing It's 70 miles per hour
Starting point is 00:08:32 Oh my shit Somebody sent me a video On Twitter the other day They go They just did It was a fucking Five second video Where they zoomed in
Starting point is 00:08:39 On a blimp Over the trees Like probably 60 miles away And they're just like I can't believe That thing's going 70 miles
Starting point is 00:08:44 It was great Tiger fucking woods man Tiger Woods man He's doing the thing He's doing the thing we want to do. How lucky are we? We get to live through this. We've had so much, like, hope.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And, you know, we stuck, like Trent just said in his little monologue there, which was very beautifully said, Trent. Eloquent. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. We had all this hope, and we stood by our man. But there were times where doubt may have creeped in, like, in the deep parts of our mind.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We're like, man. And I've said this before he won the masters and when he won the masters. There was a time where I was like, I just want. want to watch Tiger Woods while I'm like coherent enough to understand what's going on. I understand the gravity of the situation. I understand he is the best golfer of all time. He is the best golfer of the generation. He dominates when he plays.
Starting point is 00:09:32 He's a Terminator. He's a killer of hopes and dreams of everyone that tries to face him. But I never really like got to experience that. I was 10, 11, 12. Yeah, I like sports a lot, but not like golf at that level. I didn't understand who Sam Sneed was and all these fucking Jack Nicholas and like what the masters meant now. being 25 years old, am I 25 or 26?
Starting point is 00:09:53 You're 26. Now being 26 years old. I do that. You'll learn that you do that more and more. The older you get the more frequent, you just forget how old you are. Now, I like that we knew though. That's kind of nice. Well, I had my birthday of August 13th and I don't let anyone forget it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That's true. That's kind of scary that you guys know. That is your birthday week. Yeah. Yeah. But he's doing it. Like, I'm watching. And it was at 1 a.m.
Starting point is 00:10:17 4 a.m. It was crazy with the rainouts. We'll get until all that. schedule but like i got to sit down and watch tiger woods dominate a golf tournament he went ahead and didn't look back he was five strokes ahead he guys were guys were waking up in the morning being like i'm playing golf today but i have no chance to win woodland tiger would kegan faded everybody around matto yama gave it a good run but like tiger woods was ahead of him and he wasn't catching him you can't catch tiger woods he's a cat he's a tiger you're not catching him he's back
Starting point is 00:10:48 Speaking of back, we have these shirts And they're unreal Great design Back You got the tiger It's just what he is It's the name of his book hops Tiger works back
Starting point is 00:10:59 All right Orange Walk around your town Go to school You know Take some walking around money Go into your drawer Tell the honey
Starting point is 00:11:07 You're going to get Some fucking grapes Cheese and crackers But what you're going to wear To that fucking grocery stores Your back t-shirt And everyone's going to look at you Like what is that
Starting point is 00:11:16 What's what that tiger print Oh, let me tell you something. Tiger Woods is back. That's all it is. It's simple. Yeah, and when you're done with your errands, they'll be like, then what are you going to do? Well, I'll be back. That's good.
Starting point is 00:11:29 That's good. That's good. That's sick. There's a multi-purpose shirt. Yeah. No doubt about it. I'm just so happy we get to watch Tiger's. It is so cool.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So awesome. Like Frank is saying that we actually get to witness it. There's been so much time that we've spent watching YouTube where they'll play, you know, a historic round of Tigers on golf channel that we'll all live to get excited about. There's no difference. You're watching Babe Ruth, run around the bases like yeah it's like a cool story but like I yeah and I watched it when I was younger but I didn't like understand I don't I didn't get it I didn't root for it
Starting point is 00:11:56 you know I mean like I just knew like you were just taught to like like Tiger Woods like look I did experience it I mean I'm I like I said I went to the 2007 PGA like I'll never forget watching the 2008 US Open in real time yeah I understand no I know I'm talking about from my advantage I know how much younger am I six years I think yeah I think that is the important window right there. If I was... What? No, I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I think those six years were, that was like literally when you were in primetime sport watching and I was just too young. You know what I mean? Yeah, and it was also crazy for me because Tiger at that point, that was like when Tiger became my number one. Like in that 2006, 2007 era when I started to get really into golf, that was like 12, 13 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I was in college. I was carrying less about hockey and more about golf at the time. My older brother got into golf and like whatever your older brother does, that's what you want to do. So I was like, oh, cool. They like golf. I'll get fucking really into it. We became massive Tiger fans.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So like 0-6-07, I mean, I remember being on the course back then and checking your cell phone and like people that were actually watching would text you updates on time. That was when he was winning. I mean, at one point he won like seven golf tournaments in a row. That's insane. Like in a row. And you were just thinking like, oh, yeah, you can't. And then there was that stretch.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I guess it was early 2008 when he like at Bay Hill, he made that put and threw his hat off. Where it was like there were tournaments when he won like six or seven or eight tournaments or however many it was where like you didn't know if he was going to win or not. And then you'd like, oh, he fucking, he did it again. Like he might, there was like, we're talking about now we're tweeting it as a joke, like he might win every tournament. There was legitimately a chance where he'd be like five tournaments into the year. He'd be like, no, he's going to win every tournament. He's just going to win every tournament.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's what he does. And then to be honest with you, like, it was crazy as fuck going through the whole scandal as a huge tiger fan. And because there were so many haters then, like, you know, even my buddies who, they just weren't tiger guys that would chirp all the time. Like, oh, you just like suck his dick about like his workout regimen and his schedule and how. he's this, that. And I remember when all that happened, and they, they were just dancing on graves. Oh, man. You thought he was holier than now.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You thought this, that. So the haters have been out for a long time now, for a long time, 10 or 12 years, wherever the hell it's been, where they've been chirping and they've had their day in the sun. They had a nice little stretch there. Awesome run. The haters had a great decade. And now, like Frankie's saying, like to see him come all the way back, the fact that he won the Masters.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And what's so cool about this. and we're going, there's a lot of details that I want to get to. There's a lot of stats that I pulled up that we snagged off Twitter that I looked up myself or whatever. But just like in general, the fact that Tiger Woods won the tour championship and then had like a pretty shitty looking run. Like at the Ryder Cup, he looked awful. Bad. I thought once he won the tour championship, he was just going to win every tournament. Then he wins a fucking Masters.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You think like, okay, now he's going to win every tournament again. And then he had a pretty lackluster. summer and and people were starting to write articles again of like all that we witnessed tiger's last greatest showing and like this that you kind of it starts to creep in a little bit like man is this this that was that like he gave it everything you had and these and then he comes out i mean he looked flawless in japan like that was is flawless of a golf tournament i i feel and he started with three bogeys like yeah don't get me wrong made a couple bogies here and there but like he was so in control of everything the way that gary woodland talked about it which i'll read some of those quotes in a little
Starting point is 00:15:12 bit. He just was so in control and it's like what the fuck changed? Like he had a little drainage out of his knee and he's just perfect now. Like that's the situation. No, you are right about when he wins the Masters after the tour championship and there are the people saying this was it. He won the 15th. The one people never thought he could win. He hugged his son. It was very nice, a very nice moment. But now we're going to move forward and, you know, he looks kind of rusty and crappy. That could have been it. Now like you're saying, I don't know where the end is. And that makes me very happy. There is no end in sight. No way. No end in. 10 years? Give me 10 years.
Starting point is 00:15:45 This is what he does, and we talk about it all the time. He goes under swing changers. This is the new Tiger Woods, and he has evolved, and he now knows what it takes to swing with a fuse back. It took him a couple seasons. It took him a couple tournaments. It took him a couple majors. He won the Masters.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He's won three tournaments this year. He is just evolving into this now 43 to 50-year-old tiger. He goes in stages. In 2004, he was the number one golf. You can read, like, ESPN articles, Tiger Woods. loses his number one ranking, hasn't won a major. And then, like, you look back and when he's done interviews and stuff, he's like, no, I didn't like my swing at that time.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And I'm going to, I did a massive swing reconstruction because I wanted to get stronger. I want to hit the ball further. It's going to take me time. I'm going to lose. You're all going to say, I'm not going to be able to do this anymore. And then he just comes back with a perfectly reconstructed swing for how he wants his body, and he wins and dominates. And we are experiencing it right now.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, and this is the same thing. Like, when I sat on that rundown and I gave the, I've given that spiel many times to Dave and Big Cat and KFC of Like, no, you guys don't get it. This is what Tiger does. He's always done it. He just said he did it right after in 97, after he won the Masters by 12 fucking shots. He didn't love his swing. He reconstructed it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And then from 99 through like 2002, he was unstoppable. He went on the greatest run in the history of golf. Then after that, he reconstructed his swing again. He got like a new swing coach around 0405. He starts winning majors again. He has that stretch from 06, 0708, where he had multiple stretches where he won like 6, 7, 8 golf tournaments in a row, won a bunch of majors. Then he has the ACL and all that.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Then he has a scan all that. So he loses three, four, five years. Dark period of his life. Then he reconstructs his swing again. 2013, he comes back. He wins the players. It becomes the number one player in the world. Then he goes through.
Starting point is 00:17:26 He won five tournaments at you. Five fucking tournaments goes through. He has a bunch of issues again. And then now he comes back. He's finally healthy enough to compete. Reconstructs his swing. And he's the sixth ranked player in the world. He's the current master's champ.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He's the only guy in his last 14 starts that's won three tournaments. and along with Rory McRoy. So, like, he's just, this is why we have a shirt that says back because he's fucking back. This is what he does now. I will say it's going to be a little bit of a different norm. Like, Tiger's going to go through stretches where he's like, no, I just need to like take some space, regroup for a couple months. Maybe you get your knee drain or maybe this, that. But like, when he is healthy and capable physically to put the work in and all of that, like, he will win golf tournament.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah. At this point, I'm begging for people to doubt him. Me too. The way we've gone now, like before he won the Masters, before he won the Tour Championship, it was like, man, I hope those doubters aren't ultimately right. Turns out they weren't. I want to go through another cycle of it. I want people to be like, you're never going to catch Jack.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You're never going to actually get 83, this, this, this. And then I want him to continue to prove them wrong so we can continue to make fun of them on this show. We need that. I will say this. Thank God Jack Nicholas didn't only win 14 majors. Because then I don't know that we'd get to witness this. I like that. I think he would have hung it out?
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah. I think that 18, the fact that that's still up there. is why we get this last or this current might not even be the last this current era of tiger that's that's the carrot that's the carrot he's always looking at if we didn't have that carrot man it might he might be curtains he might have been like fuck this i got nothing i think you're right that 82 now he's got to that like the 18 the fact that that's out there it really starts to ask the it starts to like beg the question of like okay what's his number now like can he get to 90 can he get to a hundred wins like i think in i think in five years we're going to look back and tiger
Starting point is 00:19:09 Woods is going to be by far the most major champion winner of all time by far yeah I think he's going to have 20 majors in five years that would be amazing I love he's going to go on a crazy street Andrew shaking said no I don't like doubt or he I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that I'm not doubting him you are no there you know how many good golfers there are yeah he's gonna beat him all you think he's gonna win he's got we it's on the sheet he's got more victories than the other top nine people in the top 10 combined yeah I did a little I did a little like that crazy there was 31 there's 20 Me majors?
Starting point is 00:19:40 I love it. You're a doubter. I'm not a doubter. Yes, you are. Fine. Get in line because we're going to laugh in your face. Get in line. Frankie, that's bold.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I like that it's bold. But we were talking about it earlier. Let's say, I mean, I think he has said recently in the last year that like he said like, okay, let's say I have another decade. Well, that's 40 more major championships he gets. 40. 40. He's got to win at, what, a 15% clip? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I was trying to do that. I don't know. It's lower than that. It's like 12%. I was trying to do that. So bad. Yeah, to get to have five more, he would have to win it like a 12% clip. 12% for it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 That's crazy. You're crazy. He's 1 22% of all. Try might fight me over this. No, I'm just saying, I mean, this is what I like. What we just got done talking about? I like the doubters. I think that's great.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Look, it is bold. That's an incredibly bold. So even lower than that. He's got to get three. What percentage is that? And over the next 40 majors. Someone do that math. Hurry up.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Let's call it 8%. 40. We're talking about the best golfer of all time. We're not talking about some of the Joe Schmo that you say he's good at golf. So this is, you're just saying that like Dustin Johnson, Rory. Yeah, he's been playing these guys. He's been playing. You think he's just.
Starting point is 00:20:44 He stayed playing them, bro. He's all in his prime. And he's only one. He stays playing them, bro. All right? You know? He did. Which names did you just drop?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Dustin Johnson, Rory. Rory, Dustin Johnson, Speath, J.T. Yeah. So Tiger won more majors than all of them this year that you just listed. And I'm saying eventually these guys are probably going to mess around and win a couple. Fine. That's, they can win 85% of them. There's 40.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I don't know that they will because the boogeyman's back. 20 is a lot of majors. I hope it happens. I'm here for it. I hope it happens. 20 is a lot, Frankie. You're sitting on the fence. Getting to 20.
Starting point is 00:21:20 That's five. He's got to win five majors. That's getting to 20. Look, that's a lot. It's bold. I don't even think he will because of this. I think that if he gets to 19, I mean, I think he's like, see you later. No one will ever touch that.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Right. That is the thing. Like, I was going to say once he gets to 19, it may be like it's over. that we're just saying. I was just thinking of that. All right, once he wins four more major championships past the age of 43, he might just hang it up.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, probably. It's something, man. You guys think we get one this year? A major? Yeah. Yeah. I think he wins the U.S. Open. I don't.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Wingfoot's not good for him. It doesn't matter. Everything's good for him right now. I do like that attitude. I like that attitude a lot. I just think like he's back in New York. I don't know. I like the vibes of him at Wingfoot.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, he's won at Beth Payton. of course so he he does you know New York the New York crowds and all that I mean he's one fucking everywhere but he's gonna drive privacy he's gonna drive that boat docket somewhere on Long Island oh yeah he'll be out he'll be out in the Long Island sound probably we're gonna get those guys when he's doing that really is tweets uh I do I think I mean I think he has a really good chance to repeat at Augusta I don't know I don't know why he wouldn't yeah that's where he can drive it a little loose you know he he said when when I fucking asked him a year ago he was like no I think Augusta's my best shout
Starting point is 00:22:36 and then he wanted Augusta. So I definitely think he's got a shot. I don't know anything about Harding Park, which is the PGA venue. I know literally nothing. So, and then the British Open's what in England? Forest St. George's? I think he could win there.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I think he always has a good chance at a British Open. So he could definitely win, I think, two or three. The Masters or the British Open. Two or three. And I'd love to see him. You know, win anything. If there's going to be a podcast where we're going to make outlandish, sort of outlandish predictions about what tigers are doing going forward.
Starting point is 00:23:09 He's a winner. Because he just, he won. There's a picture of us holding the fucking, what is that thing called? It's a Dyson fan. Dyson fan. If we're going to do this, it might as well do it now when he tied the record for most wins. And, you know, really anything is in play because he looked that good during this tournament. After this.
Starting point is 00:23:25 He looked that good. He really truly did. Let me talk first. I'm going to talk first about Peter Millar. And then I'm going to read some of these quotes, some other golfers who, were giving quotes about our good friend Tiger Woods. But look, Peter Malar, okay, you have a lot of options out there when you're, when you're thinking about what to wear, how to dress yourself, it's fog off right now,
Starting point is 00:23:46 layers. What's a Peter Malar hoodie you're wearing there, Jake? Jake came up to me yesterday. We were right before we did the live stream and he was like, you have to feel this hoodie that I'm wearing. And I was like, what is it? And it is Peter Malar. I didn't even know they made what he's like that.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Everybody knows that I'm a huge hoodie guy. Whoa. We're now, for everyone, listen, we're now feeling. Jake's walking around the room inside of his hoodie They've got the great stuff that we always talk about The corner zips the pants all that stuff But they've got hoodies now And that's really right in my wheelhouse
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Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, no, the little string. The string. Jake does a cool thing with the string. People tell me, man, I thought I'd get these. I just go to work with him. I come home. A lot of people like to change
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Starting point is 00:26:19 in the history of the world. Okay. I want to now, I'm going to go through. So Gary Woodland, of course, who's a friend of the program, had him on the show.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. I gave him one of the cleanest daps in the history of the show. I know Frank, you had to go to know with Jake Owen a couple weeks ago, but Gary Woldlin and I share the connection. I'm the generator of pop. You can't speak about this in my presence. And what allowed you to have such a great?
Starting point is 00:26:44 Well, I got a good read on it. So I was third in line. He came into Barstil, H.Q. Hold on the trophy. U.S. Open trophy. Riggs was first. So I appreciate his. And I led with every option.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I was like, I'm open. I'm following your lead. Almost like I was the, I was the beta in a dancing. We were going to dance around. Yeah. It's like, you lead me. Did you see his hand? Did you see Gary?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Did you see Gary Woodland's hand start to cup? Oh, yeah. So you changed mid, like, stroke, like as you were going towards her. I was Lucy Goosey and I was ready to go any direction. And Gary Willen, you kind of, he just gives off a vibe where he's like, I'm not a handshake guy. I'm like a very cool, calm, relaxed guy. So then Frankie goes, they dapp up, not great. And then so I've got two good reads under my belt, him and I tap up.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And the internet went crazy once they saw the video. So Gary Woodland, front of the program, that was very nice to Trent out. You described that beautifully. He played with a won Tiger Woods, the last two days of the Zozo Championship, which Tiger Woods won by three strokes. Gary Wooden said it was a ball striking exhibition. I mean, everything was just good. He drove the ball beautifully.
Starting point is 00:27:46 His distance control is a joke. Never seen anything like it. And then he made some putts. That adds up to a three-shot victory. It was impressive. It's something like I've never seen. He misses the ball in the right spot every time. That obviously eliminates a big number.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And when he does that, he makes a lot of birdies, and that adds up to some pretty good weeks. he didn't miss a ball left, I don't think, for two straight rounds. He misses in the right spots, and like I said, his distance control is so good. That adds up to a lot of birdies. Correct. Roy McElroy said, to win even 50 times the PGA Tour is an unbelievable achievement. That's a U-word violation, Roy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Sorry about that. In itself, even Phil's number 44, but to get to 82, I feel like I've had a decent career. If I win six times a year for the next 10 years, I still wouldn't get there. That's great. That's great perspective from Rory. Because, you know, we see these numbers. 82, 15, 82, obviously is the big one now. But you're just like, to comprehend what that is, is crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Everyone talks about Phil, Phil and Tiger. Oh, what a what a showdown that these guys have had over their career. That's the rivalry. Dude, he's got 38 less wins than Tiger does. 38 of them. He's got basically half amount of wins that Tiger has. It makes you look at it and go like, how did we get here? How are we at 82?
Starting point is 00:29:02 If you go through the years, okay, in 1996, Tiger Woods won twice, 97, four times, 1998 once, 1999 he won eight times, 2000, he won nine times, 2001 he won five times, 2002 he won five times, 2003 he won five times. 2004 he wins once. Again, we already talked about these eras and phases. Yeah. And then 05, 6 times, 06, 8 times, 07, 7, 7 times, 08, 4 times, 09, 9, 6 times. Those seasons are
Starting point is 00:29:33 Way better than most guys career Dude, without the bad stretch of everything that happened Without the scandal This guy would have a hundred and thirty wins He just would never have stopped 2010, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, he had zero wins 2013, he had the five
Starting point is 00:29:50 And then you just, yeah, if you could fill in those years with Let's say you average four wins a year And all those years, what would he be at? All the years that you got zero, right? because some years he had seven, some years he'd be at like one. Was it being 24? Yeah, he'd be at fucking,
Starting point is 00:30:05 106 wins. And he'd be only 43, so he could get to 120 wins. Yeah. I mean, there's, he legitimately, he could threaten,
Starting point is 00:30:16 you know, 90 to 100 wins at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he wins like three more times a year for the next whatever, as long as he can keep healthy enough to play in a, in a,
Starting point is 00:30:27 in a nice pack of turn, like a good amount of, tournaments because like you said it is going to be a different error for tiger where he's going to pick and choose where he thinks he can win as opposed to like playing them all and then he'll win at a high rate yeah he's had those tournaments even in the past couple months where he's like I'm sore and I just don't feel it that's just how my body is now I remember that's what he said where that doesn't happen in your you know your 20s and your 30s but now that he's 43 what you're saying is right he's only going to have a few tournaments that he can really go at
Starting point is 00:30:53 there's no reason why he can't go and dominate like the zozo the Dubai tournament like the travelers. Like, he can still, he can pick and choose, but I mean, it's just about staying healthy. Last year, I feel like we went a little bit too much with, like, there was too, too big a gap between him playing for him to, you know, at one point it was just majors. Yeah, I think, like, he did have some knee issues. Yeah, you know, which he said, he said it, he was saying that he couldn't, he couldn't squat down to read putts towards like the end of the year like he usually does.
Starting point is 00:31:25 So he's like, no, I couldn't put well because I was just like leaning over to look at it instead of Squy now, which is a crazy town. I need to, somebody might need to fact check that because that seemed a little prosperous, but you're not, you're not reading butts. Like, what does that mean? But I do think he's going through those issues, and I think that's going to happen. It's not like, oh, he got his knee tweaked up now. He's just going to be perfectly healthy forever.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like, he's going to go through phases. He's the oldest 43-year-old in the history of the world. Yep. So I think he's just going to go through those phases. But you are right. I mean, he went from the Masters to the PGA championship of Beth Bager's out playing a tournament. Then he did it again after the, what, after the U.S. Open until the British Open.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I don't think he played. Yes. So it's like he's just only playing major. So you're right. I do think he needs to play a little more, but he's got to, it's going to be picking your spots. Ironically enough, like the way that Mark Steinberg talked about it was that like this was a total surprise. They're like, no, you're going to go over there and like do this skins game thing. And then since he's there, it's like, well, it might as well play in the tournament in Japan.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And then he just won it. Which Tiger would tell you, no, I always go to play to win. But it's like, you're just sort of there. Let's play. And then let's win by three strokes, apparently. It really makes you think that like that. that fourth hole in the Thursday round of the Zoso championship in 2019 could have changed history forever.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Like if he goes four bogies in a row, he might just be like, let's get on that jet. Let's get out of here. My neck's hurt me a little bit. A couple 71s and we'll get the hell out of here. Instead, he like rattles off whatever it was, three or four birdies in a row, makes nine birdies for the round, shoots six under, leads the tournament, and then wins by three.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And it's like, oh, that might have changed everything. Yeah. I think it does a championship in 2019. I wonder if you went to a porta potty after the third hole. Had to, right? Speaking of which, how about our guy, the boss man, changing shirts in the 40 minutes between the Saturday round and the Sunday round that he was like, somebody that we know in his camp on deck was like,
Starting point is 00:33:12 hey, like go inside that little door to the right. They've got your red shirt for you. Throw that thing on. And then he just came out wearing a red. That was amazing. No one else in the field changed their shirt. No. Nope.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I picture him when he walked in the whole room just went, oh. There was no one in it. It was just a noise. around the red shirt. He's the king of branding. Like, that's all athletes do nowadays where it's like, I'm my own brand. I have my own brand.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I have my own media company, all this stuff. But Tiger is the originator. On Sunday, he wears red. If it's a final round, if it's a final round, I'm wearing red. I don't care if there's a day between, if there's 40 minutes between. I'm putting on that red.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And it was strange, obviously, because it was in Japan, so the time change is weird. And we're all watching it at a strange hour. But Twitter was going nuts at like midnight on a Saturday night because the man was wearing red. Like that's, he knows what he's doing. Yeah, you see him in red.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's, you know, it's like, whatever, seeing the babe in like the pinstrives. It's like, dude, you're seeing Tiger Woods in red. That is just so iconic every time. Probably the people around him too. Like, the guy's playing with him. Like, oh, shit. He's got the fucking red on. He's doing the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, if you're Hedecky and you see the outfit change and you do the right, you're like, why do I even tee up? Like, I'm done. We're done. Like, I should have changed. It's also, like, I don't know why people are surprised by it. I saw a couple people on Twitter being like, they were tweeting early in the round being like ha ha so it's technically not like the final round or it's going to be on monday does tiger wear red everyone's like yeah you idiot i remember roco
Starting point is 00:34:36 i remember roco in the playoff in the oh eight was wearing a red shirt yeah and he said tiger came over to him on the range before when they had the monday playoff and was like what the hell you're dressed exactly like me and roco was like it's monday i didn't think you wore red on like monday i thought that was like a sunday thing like no it's a final round thing he wears red our guy wears fucking red so let's go through a lot of these numbers he obviously Ty Sam Sneed, all-time record of 82 PGA Tour wins. I did go through and I added up all of the wins for... So Tiger going into the week was the 10th ranked player in the world.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Nine guys ahead of them. Brooks Kebke, Roy McElroy, Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas, John Rom, Patrick Cantlay, Justin Rose, Zander Shoffley, and Bryson D. Chamboyne Bo. I added up every single one of their wins. That total is 79. Tiger Woods has 82 on its own. It's really baffling when you put these numbers compared to all the, you know. And like DJ has 20.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It's not like DJ has no wins. Rory has 17. Like Justin Rose is what, Tiger's age almost, close to there, maybe a couple years younger. He's got 10 wins. So it's like that is just staggering. If you go through and a lot of people, some people were calling this like Sam Sneed slander because they were going through and trying to like discredit a bunch of his wins, which I will admit, like if we were, if it wasn't positive that,
Starting point is 00:35:56 the boss man was going to break the record, I would dabble in that game. I mean, you start pulling on some threads here, and the numbers start to fall apart pretty quickly. Oh, yeah. Now, I don't think we need to dabble in the dark arts of ripping apart some of Sam Sneed's wins. Right, because our guy's going to touch nine. Because he's going to get up there. So we're not, we didn't even need to do that. However, if we were going to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Just give me a little taste. If we were going to do that. Frankie wants to dabble. Three of Sam Sneed's wins were only 36 whole tournaments. one of them was home in the garbage 79 one of them was only an 18 hole event I could win that fucking thing
Starting point is 00:36:36 78 Sneed won the Palm Beach round robin five times that tournament is only 15 competitors Oh my goodness 73 73 73 one of those instances it was only 14
Starting point is 00:36:49 The 36 whole tournament The 1946 world championship of golf had four players in it. 72. That counts as one of his wins. Oh, this is like when the Rangers claim they've won four Stanley Cups. Three of them have come when there was only five other teams in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:37:07 How could you possibly compare that to when the Islanders won against 20-something teams? Now, again, we're not going to do Sam Sneed slender. But we are going to, it's just, if we were to do it, this is what we would say. It is, it's not slander. It's contextualizing about what our man has actually done and what Sam Sneed had done. The 1950 Crosby Pro-A. instead of a playoff, four players were tied for the lead, and they just all were credited with a win. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:37:32 What does that mean? I'm just telling you that. I thought in the New Age America, they just gave out trophies to everyone. What is that in 1940? 1950. 1950s. This is like when you, this is like when you, this is like when you, you'll, you'll. Just gave.
Starting point is 00:37:48 All right. Everyone will hear about these laws in the 1920s where it's like, you can't ride a horse backwards down the street on Tuesdays. They're like, all right, well, we're just not going to look at that as an actual loss. That's how these Sam Sneed wins sound right now. Just again, we're not here to do that. But if we were, if things were diceier, if it was really looking like it might come down to, let's say the boss man finishes his career with like 80 wins, Sam Snee's got 82, then I might be out there crusading all across the internet that our man's wins are significantly more legitimate than Sam's needs. Not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 No, we're in the driver's here. Didn't Jack try and throw out like last year? Like all he's like, well, what is a win? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like, well, what is a win? because if you want to count wins, like I have 100. He was like going crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Big time. Yeah, no, he was talking all about like his U.S. amateurs and all the other stuff. Yeah, no. Well, what exactly do we count a win? It was incredible when he was doing that. Some of the funniest tweets I got this weekend were like, oh, boy, I bet Jack's fishing right now and his family doesn't want to tell him what's going on when he gets back. Like, if I'm Jack, I, if watching this last weekend, I'm very nervous.
Starting point is 00:38:49 I always envision now, Jack. Like, he's like, when he is fishing in the Bahamas, he's like around the point and he can't see back home. And anytime that little rowboat comes around the corner, he fucking knows. He's like, shit. Is that fucking Barbara again? Is that fucking Barbara?
Starting point is 00:39:06 He's like, did he win again? He should come in, sweetie. He's like, fucking Barbara has bad news. Did that guy win again? That fucking guy is still doing it? What? Still winning? What?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Again? He's fucking winning. Did he tweet it all? Oh, he was tweeting up a storm last night. People were tagging me in all these is, and I will say, I very seriously considered responding to some of these tweets from Jack Nicholas, but I refrained myself. He tweeted, incredibly happy for Tiger Woods and for Game of Golf on his 82nd PGA Tour win.
Starting point is 00:39:37 For a number of years, all we wanted was to see Tiger healthy again, but for his quality of life. But it's very obvious that the surgery and the hard work Tiger put in resulted in quality of golf, exclamation point. Tiger Woods validated his hard work at the Tour Championship 13 months ago, boldly underlined it at the Masters and punctuated it with today's record-tying victory. The 82 wins serve as a reflection of consistency over 24 years and strength of mind as much as strength of game. He goes on. I think Tiger Woods put it well after the Zozo Championship when he said that the body doesn't allow him to do what he once did,
Starting point is 00:40:08 but he can still think his way around the golf course. Congrats, my friend. I wish I could shake your hand today, but I'm not sure I could get there in time with a winky-face emoji. How funny would it be if reports started to trickle out there? They're like, Jack is going to play. He's going to start playing again. But he's got all these exemptions from the majors, I guarantee it. They're like, Jack Nicholas, he's going to try and play again.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Robert doesn't know where Jack is. He's in the backyard just hitting against the wall. Just working on the swing, getting the rust out. Imagine like reports pop up, but he's out at Augusta for a practice. He's just sick and tired of the shit. Tiger shows up to Augusta and Jack's already on the range. Jack? He just gives him the cold children.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Is this for the inaugural first tea shot? Yeah. When you have the first tea shot, he's like, no, no, no, I'm going. Yeah, I'm going. Jack hits the first tee shot, grabs his bag and just goes and hits a second look. You think Jack, you know how older people say they can feel when the rain's coming because of their knees? You think Jack's knees start to creak when Tiger Woods is coming down 18? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Jack's sitting in his living room and he just starts massaging his knees. And Barbara's like, Jack, what's wrong, honey? It's like, oh, these damn knees are out. My dogs are barking. My dogs are barking. Tiger keeps on the TV. You know, Tiger's playing. He's just draining birdies.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Fuck, I know. He can't keep these dogs from barking. I've got to put a leash on these things. It's been years since these things have been hurt. I've kept these things in a cage for years. I need, I need Jack to make a return. I just need it. More than anything.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Jack hitting the inaugural tee shot and just walking up to the fairway is all time. Got a score card in his back pocket. He's ready to go. Who's going to stop him? What are they going to tackle him? Like, you're just going to let him go. I'll tell you this, too. If he starts playing again, you know our good friend Gary Player's playing again.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, yeah. No way Jack's going out there without him. Oh, man. What do you think Jack Nicholas could, like, shoot out there right now? I mean. He's pretty old. Yeah, those inaugural T shots are like, oh. You think he could break 80?
Starting point is 00:42:11 I think he could probably, I think at, like, Jack's home course, he could probably still break 80. No, I guarantee you that. I'm thinking of the Masters. You think he'd be playing in the Masters. No. I just don't think he hits. the ball far enough. Like from the pro tees?
Starting point is 00:42:24 He's got the greatest career of all time. I know. But father time. Totally. Been beating him down. Totally. But like, I don't know if he,
Starting point is 00:42:31 I wonder if you gave him four rounds in the master's tournament. Could he one round break 80? I'd like to ask him. 79 years old turning 80 in January. That's tough. 80. It's old. It's really tough.
Starting point is 00:42:41 That's old. Let's go through some of these most wins of all time. Sam Sneed, obviously 82 wins. And this wanted me, this was leading me to get to a larger conversation. about like are we at the point yet if you sat down and you just went through the pure numbers what tigers added to it in the last year could you now make the argument that tiger woods is the greatest player to ever play the game most wins of all times sams need 82 he's got seven majors tiger woods now 82 wins he's got 15 majors I put a little asteris there because he has one of five people that has the career grand slam jack nicholas 73 wins 18 majors uh then you go down like ben hogan's got 64 wins nine majors Arnold Palmer, 62 wins, seven majors.
Starting point is 00:43:23 None of those guys are even close in the major department. You even got to go all the way down to like our good friend, Mr. Gary player. Who does have a ton of international wins, so his PGA tour wins are a little bit skewed because he played so much around the world. I think he said he's traveled more miles than anyone else in the history of humanity. Yes, he did say that. Yeah, he said that to our face. 26 wins, nine majors.
Starting point is 00:43:42 But again, only five guys that have the career grand slam, which is Tiger, Jack, Ben Hogan, Gene Sarazen and Gary player But you really have to like kind of Wonder now with Tiger having the most tied for the most wins of all time And if you go through that list some of those are pretty You know liberal wins that we're giving Sam Sneen With him overcoming everything Winning a major 11 years after his last one
Starting point is 00:44:10 Does that count for like more than just one major And therefore is his 15 majors like worth more than Jack Nicholas is 50? Yeah, it's definitely. I mean, that's what I think. And I know a lot of people will probably disagree or, you know, Jack Nicholas stands out there. But it's not fair to Jack to count, like, all the trouble that Tiger's gone through and all the years that he had zero wins and didn't really even have a chance to win majors. Because that's on him. But, like, life ain't fair, Jack.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And you know what? Like, those things did happen. And Tiger would have been just way past you had his, like, body not broken down and his personal life gone to shit it's his fault but like if you're talking strictly careers and golfing and all this stuff like tiger is the best golfer of all time and i think like now with 82 wins 15 majors and he's going to get more wins in the near future at some point even if he doesn't get the majors even if he doesn't get to 18 like if tiger gets like 85 wins 15 majors like he's 12 more ahead of jack and wins like he was right there in the majors he just had seven or eight years of just nothing
Starting point is 00:45:15 you have to give it to him i think so too yeah i would agree with that and But one thing I would say is I'm not going to be satisfied until there's no one left who can say that Jack is better than Tiger. And what I mean by that is I need the majors to fall. I need to get to 19. Because I do. I agree with everything he said. I think he's the greatest player of all time. But I want all the critics to be silenced.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Even if he ties him, you could still say without a doubt. Yeah, because he'd have more wins. Yeah. He has more U.S. amateurs. He won three U.S. amateurs to Jack Nicholas is two, I believe. So it's like, you really could see like, okay, they have the exact same. number of majors. But you also, I mean, let's think about this too. I mean, some of the things that Tiger did, like obviously Jack's done and set some incredible records well, but Tiger Woods winning the
Starting point is 00:45:57 Masters as like a 21-year-old by 12 shots. He then went and won the Tiger slam all four majors in a row, winning the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach by 15, then winning like three weeks later, winning the British Open at St. Andrews by eight, and then winning in Valhalla in a playoff, then having an eight-month layoff coming back with like all of the hype and winning the Masters to win four majors in a row having like the broken leg winning the winning the u.s open at tory pines on a broken leg and like a torn ACL by hitting that pot and all that and then coming back 11 years later after like all the personal shit and winning the masters after every pundit on the planet said that he was done is like at what point does that start to count for more than like the three major gap
Starting point is 00:46:41 that they have right now and you have to give tiger credit and also allow him to have those years where he didn't win and didn't do anything because he was a true He transformed the sport. Like, Jack Nicholas is massive for the sport of golf. He carried it in his era along with, you know, all the guys that he played against. And your guy's personal friend, I can't say a guy or player as well. Like, these guys, these guys helped move the sport along and make it, you know, a prime time. You want to watch Jack Nicholas.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He has all the majors. He won all the tournaments. But Tiger Woods changed golf in which no one will ever be able to do. He changed the sport that no one else will ever be able to change the sport in any sport. Right. You know, like Larry Bird was an incredible basketball player. Some say, like, you know, they would pick Larry Bird over, like, whatever. Michael Jordan and stuff like that, like in his prime.
Starting point is 00:47:25 But like Michael Jordan changed the sport of basketball. Tiger Woods changed the sport of golf. So, like, for him to do that, he is going to, like, have different things in his personal life. And you know what I mean? Like, he experienced a different world than Jack Nicholas did. Yeah. So you have to, like, lay off him for those years that he had zero, I think, because he was just experiencing more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I agree. I'm a superstar on the planet. Which definitely counts. It has to count. You can't just throw that away. Him doing it in this era and all that, right? Like, Jack Nicholas wasn't even necessarily the biggest star of his era. Arnold Palmer was bigger.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That's just the fact. That's what I mean. Jack's younger, significantly younger and all that. So eventually he, like, took over and then he started going up against Tom Watson and all that. But Tiger Woods with the star power with everything he's done, he also, if you look at it, they posted this tweet, and I can't find it, so I don't have the exact numbers. But I know Tiger Woods's all-time win percentage of the PG-Tor. is like 22%
Starting point is 00:48:18 no one else is even close to that like Jack's at like 5% or something like that Tiger Woods is at 22% of the time that he's right he's in the game of golf that I that's they were saying that he's that's equivalent to he's like a 430 lifetime hitter yeah yeah right in golf golf is
Starting point is 00:48:39 impossible to win at that type of rate impossible so I have the winning percentage up minimum 200 starts Tigers at 22, a bunch of guys that played in a different era. Ben Hogan, Byron Nelson, Sam Sneed, Henry Pickard, Jack Nicholas, 12. 12%. He's 10% less than Tiger Woods in his career winning percentage. What's Phil at, like eight?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Phil is not even on this list. It's not a long list. It only goes to 11%. So, yeah, he's around, like, Jack Nicholas, around half the win percentage of Tiger Woods. So it's like, when Tiger Woods is playing golf, he's far and away the best golfers ever live, essentially what it comes down to. That's just that's far in a way. Now there is, you know, you have to account for like longevity.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That matters. Especially in game of golf, like, racking him up over three or four different decades, like longevity matters. That's the same in any sport. Like Tom Brady now racking up more and more Super Bowls way later is like adding to the legacy that will that will make him the greatest player of all time versus saying like, no,
Starting point is 00:49:36 if you're the best quarterback for a four year stretch, like that doesn't necessarily make you the greatest player ever played the game. Whereas like, so you could always argue that this, whatever. So longevity matters. However, I think Tiger has done it now, this latest era, this latest like resurgence, him being back. That's why he put it on a TV, a t-shirt. That's why he is naming his book back. Go buy the t-shirt, store.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That barstall. I do think now he's done enough in this latest that like his last memory golf wise wasn't of him like trying to come back two or three times and failing, which is kind of where we were left at in 2017. That's him putting on green jackets and lifting trophies, which I think that that now has like put the like, Put the bow on it, and we're not done yet, but that will put the bow on him having, like, the greatest career of all time. And then he, and then he fucking came and won the green jacket. And he fucking came. Little Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:50:29 A little Cardi B quote. A little Cardi B. And then he came. The great philosopher, Cardi B. Then Tiger Woods came, comma, and won the green jacket. Speaking of coming. Yep. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:52:48 Tiger played on Saturday in front of no crowd. That was interesting. Never see him out there like that. Throwing darts to silence. Darts to silence. Yeah. Darts into the silence. He did.
Starting point is 00:52:57 He played great and there was just, there was nobody cheering, which was very, like towards the end of his round where he, he put one like 10 or like five to 10 feet away. It was a beautiful shot and you literally heard one clap. Just, it was like a guy that was standing over by like the TV tower.
Starting point is 00:53:14 He just looked over. Like, oh, hell yeah. Yeah. That was sick. That's sick. It's like woods, baby. Some of the stats that they were dropping, the graphics that they pull up just throughout the week. Anytime Tiger wins, this happens.
Starting point is 00:53:24 But it's always amazing. Tiger's now 25 for 25. That's 100%, Trent, correct? Yep, I put it into a calculator over the weekend, 100%. 25 for 25 closing 54 whole leads with three plus stroke lead or more. The tour average over the last 20 years is just 66%. Tiger is 100%. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:53:44 good. That's via Justin Ray on Twitter. Shout out to him. They had the very funny graphic of the highest win percentage on tour in tour history with a 54 whole lead or co-lead. And I think the minimum was like five attempts. Tiger just made it with 58 attempts. And then it was KJ. Choi, John Daly, Ken Green, Jimmy Walker, Mark Wilson, all with five. I guess KJ. Choi had six. I'm sorry. And Tiger had 58. And he's got a higher win percentage than all of them. He's got 54 out of The fact that this is the route they went with that staff is laugh out loud funny. It says highest win percentage with 54-hole lead slash co-lead since 1983 minimum five attempts. And like you said, all of them on there have five except KB Choy has six and Tiger has 58.
Starting point is 00:54:29 He still dominates the win percentage. He's won 54 out of 58 for a 93.1% winning percentage with a 54-hole lead or co-lead. 36-hole lead conversion rate. he is 94% of the time when he is leading or co-leading I believe 36 holes through the tournament 94% of the time he wins going into Saturday with the lead he wins 94% of the time I think the tour average is like 30 or 40% that is such a preposterous stat he has a he has two good days he's leading the tournament hasn't even started to people that are watching at home you know Saturday Sunday is when you sit on your couch and watch some golf this guy while you were in your
Starting point is 00:55:10 office and your cube. Tiger Woods fired two sixty three's. He's leading the tournament on Saturday and he wins 94% of the time. You can set your watch to that. And this is modern era shit. This isn't like when you go back in like the 20s and 30s when there are only a couple teams like for like Sam's need playing against three guys. Yeah, different sports even like couple teams like Frank I always talked about the Rangers.
Starting point is 00:55:32 We're talking about two, like late 90s and then into the 2000s where he where golf is a thing. People are like have decided golf can be a career. People are trying to play it for a living doing it. They got teams. They got swing coaches. They got track men. Kids are growing up at country clubs with swing coaches. 100%.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Dads were PGA pros. I mean, I'm throwing Justin Thomas under the breast a little bit there. A little bit. And Tiger Woods is just driving him. Love you, J.T. And Tiger Woods is still putting up insane win percentages. It's just we're just never going to see something like it ever again.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Never. So again, some of these stats that they were just, they were dropping. They're mind boggling. And Tiger Woods has added to it. by winning 82 times on the PGA tour. He's now tied for the all-time lead. Pretty funny story about Tiger and some of the boys going to the movies and then to Domino's.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It says after Storms washed out the second round of the Zozo Championship, the Tiger Woods, who grabbed a share of leave at 600 par 64, five other players decided to go to local movie theater for an afternoon showing of Joker. All was good until after the movie ended when the crew was told the tournament courtesy vans that drove them to the theater were not able to go back to the theater.
Starting point is 00:56:37 were not able to go back to the hotel. The storms were so powerful, roads were undrivable in numerous areas. Public transportation was shut down and no taxes or Ubers were available. So the gang, Tiger Woods, Justin Thomas, Jordan Speeat, Gary Woodland, Bubba Watson, and Ryan Palmer. I think we've had everyone but Jordan Speefe that we've had everyone but Jordan Speefe that we've either had on the show. We've had four out of six of them on the show. Tiger Woods we've engaged with twice. And Spath is the only one.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Spath, we've engaged with, but not having on the show. Along with a couple of friends headed to a nearby Domino's. There were no tables in the restaurant, yet the group ordered six pies, thing crossed, and just stood there and ate them. I like it. Imagine walking into that Domino's just seeing Tiger, like, you look around and you're like, Jordan Spieth, what the fuck? Tiger Woods?
Starting point is 00:57:24 What is happening? What is going on here? Domino's? I would love to know Tiger's review of Joker. What does he think of that movie? I should ask him. I haven't, I actually haven't seen Joker yet, but I know all about it and everything, and I just want to know what his mind thinks of that movie.
Starting point is 00:57:38 It'd be very funny if you'd never seen it, but you asked for his review. Yeah, because then I'll be like, I'll see it if Tiger liked it. Tiger's sitting in a movie theater seat for that long makes me a little nervous. Maybe he gets up in the middle of it and stretches out. I was just say, like, in the middle of a tournament? Actually, no, now the fact that we know that he won the goddamn thing, I actually feel pretty good that he was able to sit through like a three-hour movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Chairs, you know, sometimes my back's stiff. Me too. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets up. You know, he does that thing on the T where he puts his arms. behind he does a big back like stretch move you think as like the joker as like walking phoenix is just like delivering one of the most intense like crying scenes and the joker tiger's just on the side just stretching yeah activating the glutes exactly what i think it's just jason thief and these guys have obviously spent a lot of time with tiger at this point
Starting point is 00:58:23 but i'm just thinking you just sitting in a movie theater with tiger and i would just i'd watch him i'd be watching him watch the movie can you ask justin thomas what was it like to go to the movie theater yeah i will i'm gonna text it like what tiger did the movie theater yeah what do you order like at Any point do you think? Ask Justin if at any point did he just like look over there and be like, I'm going to move there with Tiger Woods watching Joker. Yeah, I think I am. I'm going to ask him.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I'm going to shoot him at time. You got your phone out right now. What was Tiger Woods like at the movie theater? I will say this. No spoilers because I haven't seen it yet just. JT did respond to one of my Instagram stories from yesterday where we were doing our Tiger Wood stuff. So he's active.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And he goes, is this as close as it gets as porn for you? Did you say yes? I said it's way better. Maybe like that. to be all boring stuff. That's a good answer. He's active. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:09 He's definitely active. I think they're on a plane back though. Probably. All right. We'll get it for the show later this week. I envision him on the side in between aisles doing the Michael Phelps where he flap your arm. Just making a ruckus. I'm like, hey, can you keep it down over there, Tiger Woods?
Starting point is 00:59:25 So anyways, those guys went to some of the same story. Thin crust, by the way. That's my favorite type. Huge thing crusts pizza guy. Yeah. Well, yeah, would you like thin crust or no? I do like thin crust. We had a Domino's spat a couple years ago, me and Frankie on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He tried to shame me and then he got roasted when I responded like, oh, are you too good for Domino's? Yeah, I am too good for Domino's. I mean, I am too good for Domino's. If you live in the New York metropolitan area and you order Domino's pizza, you should jump off a bridge. I got Domino's like a week ago. It's so good. Domino's is delicious. You live amongst thousands of pecorpsed pepperoni pizza from Domino's.
Starting point is 00:59:59 No free ads, but that's some of the best. I will submit the fact that like when you are drunk. and you're in a college town or like even if you're in like whatever you can be on long island anywhere that like you know dominoes is delivering until six a m and like you guys all get back to your house and you want to have some like cheesy bread and all that bullshit fine i've done that before i've eaten dominoes where i couldn't even i didn't even know my own name but like if you're going to sit down at seven o'clock in night in your apartment and you're like i'm going to order pizza tonight in new york city and it's going to be dominoes literally kill yourself and i'm
Starting point is 01:00:30 to go to your mom's funeral and lick the tears out of her eyes as she weeps about you dying because not to take Trent's own joke but I just take your own joke. That's fine. Domino's? It's delicious, man. So it is like, don't see a sauce pizza. Why do you care? Clean up your goddamn wires in your apartment, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like, I care about a lot of shit. Like, I don't know. I don't know how. I care because, like, you could be, like, it is pretty specific to you because you own an Italian restaurant. You're in the same city as like Prince Street pizza. And like all, yeah, but like a lot of times it's a hassle.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like if they're really expensive or they don't deliver at certain times, this. You know what Domino's, man, you go to Domino's dot com. I got my online pizza profile all set up. I hit like one button. I watched the tracker go.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like, oh man, this is great. They're like, Martin's put your pizza in the oven. I'm like, yeah, Martin doesn't know a thing about making pizza.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's what they do because when it gets to my apartment, it is delicious and I eat a lot of it. All right. Here's one thing that is like so contradictory. Contradictory. Mm-hmm. Contradicting? Catastrophe.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Contradictory? Contradictory. I think contradicted. I think you named. Yeah, I did. To what I'm saying is that I love Chuckie cheese pizza. Dude, you always do this. You always make a hard point in one direction.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Here's the difference. But I also like the worst kind of the thing you're talking about. Here's the different, silly boy. I don't order. Did you just call me silly boy? That's a good one. Here's a different silly boy. That was such a demeaning way to begin.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I feel the mean. I feel demean. No matter what he says, that was going to sound way better than what you said because you're a silly boy. I feel small. You are small. On Trent's Twitter, he took a picture of him in soft clothes over the weekend. Was it over the weekend? That was last weekend.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Last weekend and he looked like a little tiny baby. Four foot six. He looked four foot five. That's what you looked like. Something with the mirror and... I thought you were going to get dressed as a little girl again. It looked like your legs were 18 inches long. It was supposed to posture.
Starting point is 01:02:23 But anyway, you don't go to Czechie cheese and, like, order a pizza. You don't order a pizza from Czechie cheese to your apartment. You don't, like, substitute check your cheese. Chuckie cheese pizza for another dinner. You go to Chucka cheese with like your little cousins and like you have to do like, you have to babysit or whatever, or you go on like a little, whatever. You go on like a field trip when you're a little and you eat Chuckie Cheese pizza and you find out that it's fucking incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I like Chuckie Cheese pizza. It's so good. But my argument lines up more with that than yours. We did a pizza review of Chuckie Cheese in Jacksonville, Florida with Dave. We were on our way to go to a bar rescue with John Taffer. We were driving down a highway. We saw a, we saw a, we saw a, we saw a fucking. big sign for Chuck E Cheese.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm like, we should go do that. And we went in. It was one of the funniest things. Like, we sat down. All the kids were running around, throwing little balls at each other and stuff. Dave was, like, number 13, waiting there. They brought the pizza. We walked outside.
Starting point is 01:03:11 He loved, I think he really liked it. He was like, this is actually pretty fucking good. Chew-cheked. I crushed the whole pie in the car, the whole thing. They got good pizza. He had one size I had eight. You know what my favorite pizza in the city is? Have you ever had Daninos?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Franki? Daninos is good. Yeah, Daninos is good. So I went in there. I was in there this past weekend. and I got a nice pie. I had a quick pie. It was delicious.
Starting point is 01:03:33 What did you get on it? I get sausage and pepperoni. That's what I get in all my pizzas. I like it. I do a little inside from the pizza from the pizza connoisseur. Well, on the pizza connoisseur's guy. Dave is the pizza kind of sore, but you're the guy behind the guy. When I was working at Borrellys, every time I wanted a pizza and I'd make one,
Starting point is 01:03:50 well, Lareda would always make it. I'd never make the pie. But I would always go and get all of our toppings. I'd get sausage. I'd get onions. I'd get green pebbles. peppers and I get pepperoni and I'd bring it to this like this board and I dice them up. I'd cut them up into very fine pieces of toppings, right?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Because the sausage is big, pepperies big. When you dice them up, you spread them across the pizza. Every bite gets the whole, the whole taste in it, right? Like sometimes when you have a sausage or pepperoni pizza, you take a bite, it's all one piece of sausage, one piece of pepperoni. When you dice it all up, it's all the flavors in one bite. Fantastic. What if I like it a little different each time? Sometimes like one bite might be all pepperoni and sausage.
Starting point is 01:04:27 All right. just like a little cheese in between. That's fine. I like to mix it up. But I do, I kind of prefer. But anyways, I'm walking out and the guy goes, the guy standing at the front, he puts his hand out to shake my hand.
Starting point is 01:04:38 He goes, how was it? I was like, I was delicious. I love this. One of my favorite piece of places in the city. And he goes, better than a 9.0. And I was like, that's what Dave gave it, right? He goes, yeah, 9.0, better than 9.0. I was like, no, 9.0 is really high.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Like, nobody gets 9. Yeah. And he goes, yeah, it's crap because we had to deliver it. And I was like, what do you mean? He was like the way that it was done that day, Dave didn't come here. Yep, I already know. My brain is just so directed to pizza. We did that outside of the flat iron building.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Dave was in a hammock in like two-degree weather. It was freezing out. And it was supposed to be like one of the coldest days of the year. The wind chill was supposed to be like negative 15. And I walked into Dave's office. I'm like, we should go do a review outside. It would be funny. We got him a lay.
Starting point is 01:05:17 We got him like one of those crazy little straws that you drink tropical smoothies out of. And he, and outside of the flat iron building, they had these hammocks just sitting around. like weirdos can go just sit in and like take Instagram pictures. And he sat there and we ordered from Daninos, which I think was like a mistake because I didn't know how good dinos was. We could have. There's a little look into the pizza game is like when we do gimmick pizza reviews, right?
Starting point is 01:05:39 If Dave's like wearing something crazy, we don't like to waste that on a real pizza place because that's like not, people want to like see what Danino's got. You know what I mean? Yep. That was early in the pizza game for me. I just picked like a place we hadn't done yet. And I just picked dinos.
Starting point is 01:05:53 So he knew that. And he was tough. He was the owner. The guy was the owner. He was a super nice guy. He got a 9.0. He probably wouldn't get a 9.0. It had been, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I don't know. 9.0s are like, so it's my favorite. It's my favorite pizza in the city. It's in the West Village. It's, it's phenomenal pizza. But he was, he made a little quip and he's like,
Starting point is 01:06:11 yeah, I wonder if he actually came here and got it fresh. He's like, maybe we get that 9. A little higher. So I mean, I was like, ha, I'm not really in the pizza. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:17 We've been talking for 25 minutes now. Yeah. He just like, oh my God. Well, how long have we been saying? Oh, you know what? We did Daninos. We went, so the Daninos in the city, we, we didn't do it there. But we went to the original Daninos in Staten Island because of this point.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And it got a 8.1. Okay. Yep. Still good. Very good. It's a good place. It's a good pizza. So that's my, if anybody who gives a shit about my pizza, I love you.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Go to Borrelia is in Brown-Long Island. Yeah, but if you're in West Village, go to Deninos, it's delicious. Do you think green peppers are a waste of time? No, that's what I put on my pizza. I like, I've, I've eaten green pepper. as well, but they don't really taste like anything. And when I have a fajita, I like the green peppers inside my fajita. Well, like, why?
Starting point is 01:06:58 I've gone through a green pepper phase myself, but like, why? They don't taste like anything. Yeah, I know. They have significantly less taste than red peppers. I'll give you that. It's probably just like a crunch thing. Speaking of red peppers, I went to the fucking grocery store yesterday. I got red pepper hummus, and I don't think I took it home.
Starting point is 01:07:13 What? I'm like just thinking right now. I don't think I took that fucking thing home. You walked in with nothing? You walked in with nothing? No, like, I got a bunch of stuff. I remember holding the red pepper hummus. We were watching football.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I remember being like, oh, people are going to like this. And now that I think about it, it's now Monday, and we didn't have red pepper hummus. And I don't think I brought it home. So did you buy it? I think I may have. I don't know what happened. I don't think the lady bagged it. You know what I do a lot is when you get food boxed up, I leave it on the table every time.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Forget to take it home. Yeah. You know, you're like, can you bring us a box? We're not going to finish all this. They put it a nice little box. Nothing worse than when I was waiting. People do that. Man, you get home and you're like, I'm a little hungry a couple hours of it.
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Starting point is 01:10:51 Other Zosso championship stuff, primetime golf is awesome. I have to say that. Yeah, we always talk about that during the Hawaii swing too. Mm-hmm. It's just like, I like watching golf at night.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I can sit on my couch. I mean, it's not too much of a hassle when it's in the morning, but at night it's just a different animal. It was a little late prime time. Yes,
Starting point is 01:11:09 but that was because they had to play like 27 holes. Yeah, but you're right. A couple times it got a little bit too late, so if Japan could like change their time zone or something and the sun could come up
Starting point is 01:11:17 at a different time, they'd be great. At one point on Saturday going on a Sunday, I looked at my clock and it was 2.30 in the morning. That's a little like, Jesus. That's no longer proud time. What are we doing in your phone? A very strong field out there, I have to say. So anybody wants to, well, just for your information.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Rory, second ranked player in the world. JT, fourth ranked player, Zander Shafley, eighth ranked player, Tiger, 10th. Now he's up to sixth. Tony Fienow, 13th. Paul Casey, 14th, Adam Scott 15th, Fleetwood 16th, Patrick Reed 17th, Woodland, 18th. So there are a lot of guys in the top 20 that were in the field. You almost said it. And this is with cousin Mike Portnoy.
Starting point is 01:11:48 morning on a radio show being like oh well it's the zozo championship it's in japan like how strong it's going to say it today right and i was like i was like well you're wrong this is the field it was strong just because it's called the zozo and it's in japan doesn't mean that it's a week 301 of the top 50 players played in it like brooks kepka yeah that's strong he was gonna play in it and he just like slipped on concrete yeah so it's a good tournament it's a very good tournament he went and tiger words won it so i was just basically adding that to reinforce that the boss man had a phenomenal win 10 inches of rain from a typhoon. Some of the craziest footage I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:12:18 They have the situation in the 10th hole where they moved it from like a 400 some odd yard part 4 to a 150 yard par 4, which was hilarious. Speaking of typhoons, we've really got two toy fumes here at this golf tournament with us. We got Tiger Woods. We got Hegecki Matsu Yomah. They're kind of like the two toy foons that are hit in Japan right now. So we got a lot of rain, but... This is so good.
Starting point is 01:12:40 That's so good. You go, don't stop. We got... We really got two toy fumes. this golf tournament so it should be fun to watch going forward it'd be huge of toy go on but it obviously be huge if the local hero are hadaki much the yama one that's my frank nobolo because he's so good hey thank you but he did that frank nobelo that was the comparison he made when they jumped back to coverage one day he was just dying for some sort of comparison to the rain because they kept talking
Starting point is 01:13:03 about it and he was just like speaking of the toy fooons that hit this golf course we got two toy fooons out here and it was just it was really something and it's just I wanted to uh I wanted to uh I mean, people died in the typhoons. That was the thing. And that's why I was like, I don't know if we should be talking about typhoons, Frank, because people, I believe people did die with all the rainfall. It's like, you're not going to be in, like, California being like, oh, like the wildfire. Tango is really burning up the Linoleu.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah, you're not going to say that. It's like, yeah. Like, dude, have some self-awareness. Yeah. We love Frank Nablo. Frank Nablo's been on this show. And it was just a funny comparison, or not a funny comparison to make, but an interesting comparison to make.
Starting point is 01:13:41 And I really just wanted to try out my Frank Noblo on the show. So we went for it. Most typhoons are a catastrophe. I mean, they're called typhoons. They don't fuck around. So. Burning up the leaderboard. You're going to attack of woods.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Burning up the leaderboard. Shout out to Frank Noblo. That was good. How much outrage there would be with that? That was fantastic. I didn't want you to stop, man. You were on a roll right there. You were really spinning.
Starting point is 01:14:05 But yeah. I don't know where we were. We were just talking about the rain. The par four, tenth. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Woodland said, I mean, I started on a par four that was only 150 yards. So that was different.
Starting point is 01:14:18 That's one of the hardest driving holes out here. So that's not a drive you want to start on. I like the PJ Tour did that. There was just a giant, basically lake formed in the middle of the fairway and the tent hole. So they just moved it up. They didn't change the par or anything. They're like, no, you're just going to tee off from 150 yards. And it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:14:35 I like that. Sometimes you've got to do what you got to do to get the tournament in. Tiger ended up winning it. He went down the stretch against Hideki. Now, having given them credit for doing that right, The fact that they did not group Tiger and Hadeki together in the final round was a massive miss. I understand the reasoning. They only had 40 or 50 minutes in between T times.
Starting point is 01:14:53 But they're in control of the whole thing. I mean, at worst case, you know that those guys are both near the top of the leaderboard going into the whole weekend. So maybe even just make it where like, oh, we reserve the right to in the final six pairings, we can just reshuffle if we want to. Why not just do that? Things were already a mess. So you can just be like, oh, yeah, we're going to put Tiger and Hideki together. We're going to do that because that would be huge. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And it would be great. And then they're like, we can't do it. But you're the we. It's not. Yeah. You're the week. That's why I was, I tweeted like, no, they're in charge. Like, you can just do it.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Yeah. It's not, it's no one's pushing back on that. It's like, you control it. Yeah. And you, if anybody chirp, be like, well, it's, it would give one guy 10 more minutes before us tea time. You're like, no, no, no, we're doing it because it's better for the tournament. That's just like, that's actually what we're here to do.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Just be honest about it. Yep. We're here to, like, promote storylines and drama and competitiveness, and it's a little bit of entertainment as involved in our product, and this is better entertainment. So that was a huge miss by them not having Hadeki Matsiyama, the biggest star in Japan, the biggest golf star in Japan, the first tournament ever in Japan, PGA Tour Tour tournament against the biggest star in the history of the game in the final round, especially with Hadeki was, like, fist pumping towards the end. I will say, I think it helped Tiger because he got to just stand in the middle of the fairway and watch everything Hadeki was doing. Yes. So he was able to, like, think his way around and hit conservative shots we needed to, aggressive shots we needed to. aggressive shots we needed to and then just kind of waltz his way around and understand exactly
Starting point is 01:16:09 every was in the tournament. How awesome is it for the people of Japan that Tiger won this tournament? Very cool. You know what I mean? Like they were saying they were talking about the whole time like 13 years he hasn't been back in Japan and this is the first PJ tour event here and they're showing kids who are under 13 years old and it's like this is the first time they've ever had even an opportunity to see Tiger Woods and what does he do? He wins the tournament. Imagine if like Zach Johnson had won or something. All right. Well, it would have been a disaster. Just a train wreck for Japan. The Zozo gets like stripped away and sent to another country and nobody really gives a shit about it. Instead, Tiger Woods wins it and now it elevates the whole thing to this kind of iconic status.
Starting point is 01:16:41 You know, I brought up a fun thing to talk about and you guys shot me down with Zach Johnson. I'm just making a comparison. What of a really boring kind of like unwatchable player like Zach Johnson. Oh, man. Unwatchable is fair. It's not fair. It was cool. I'm happy for the kids of Japan and they got to see Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I can tell that you are. Bobba Watson took a ridiculous line on the par five sixth hole. Outrageous. Off the tea. I don't even know if that's illegal. People were making the comment, like it didn't even look like he hit the ball through the T's. It looked like he just hit it like behind the T. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:15 Right. Like where the T markers are. He just like went to the right of it. Like I don't know. So that's why I was. Yeah. Like what's the rule? You just have to be standing in between the markers?
Starting point is 01:17:24 I guess. You can hit it backwards if you want to? I was so confused by that. I didn't. Yeah, I don't know what the... It didn't look like he hit it. forward through the T-markers, you know? It was an outrageous decision.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Anyone that hasn't seen it, like, we're not going to be able to describe what he did unless you go watch it. It'd be like, if someone kicked a fugal and they just kicked it straight to the right, and they'd be like, no, that's good. Well, no, it didn't go through. Like, it went. It just went, like, it never went through it. It's a huge dog leg right.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And he, like, he turns just horizontal to the fairway and hits the ball just under a tree to the right of, like, the sign that's on the T-box. One of the most, like, ridiculous, were just shapings of a t-shot i've ever seen i thought maybe they were like killing time or something and he wasn't actually playing like i thought he was like oh we got a delay but i'm just like i'm gonna entertain the crowd i'm gonna try and shape this around yeah and then he's like no no that was his actual shot during the tournament it's like when they try to skip balls on 16 yeah the master like the everyday golfer will find a like a dirtied up or like old ball and you'll always
Starting point is 01:18:21 hit it into like the forest or something yeah i do that all the time and then you're and then the classic line is oh i shouldn't a waste of that one like you hit a perfect stripe it right down the middle into the forest yep worked out, I guess. I don't know if it worked. I don't know if it worked out, but did he end up in a good spot? He made like a par, a par five. Yeah. Which, you know, he's making, he's looking to make birdies.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He responded to my tweet about it. He said, I had a swing, so I had a shot. Hashtag, you're welcome. Hashtag, whole signs, don't stop me. I know this was not your best favorite tweet of all time. I just don't like when he says that you're welcome thing. That's the thing that always throws me off about Bubba Watson. He's really funny at times.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Like, he's really quirky. All right. Well, hold on. Funny to like to watch, right? Like he's hitting these types of shots. That's what I mean. He's not like... He's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:19:03 He's fun to watch. Yeah, fun, I guess. Yeah, but it's just like he'll always do crazy trick shots and his videos and him on the hoverboard cars and all that shit. Like Bubba, he's got his name Bubba Watson. We always say that he should be great. He's a lefty, hits the bombs, the pink drivers, the whole fucking thing. And then he finishes it at the end and says, you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:19:22 He does it at the end of his videos. He does it at the end of his tweets. And it's just like he brings you up and then he stabs you in the neck with a knife with you're welcome. He just always. It's like the opposite of Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods is giving us this like beautiful, like, you know, he's resurrected and his ending is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Like Bubba Watson's endings are a nightmare and they are a tragedy. Yeah. His tweet had just said I had a swing so I had a shot. All time Twitter. Yeah. But he said, you're welcome. Yeah. We've obviously grown closer to Bubba Watson since the beginning when the show started.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I was pretty hard on him for a long time. Rick's played 18 old of them. It's on YouTube. Is that video on YouTube? Yeah, it's got like $150,000. thousand views pretty good. That's the most least talked about thing. You just played 18 holes at Bubba Watson.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And Ted Scott. And we're clearly closer, but the Your Welcome thing I've hated since the beginning. And I just, like you're saying, if you had just tweeted that tweet without the hashtags, it would been way better. Yeah, it's kind of a brutal thing. I don't disagree with you. Like if Bubba Watson tweet, I mean, just you're welcome one day would ruin my day. It would ruin my day. No, it would ruin my day.
Starting point is 01:20:22 That's how much it makes me. I really hope he does that. CBS, not renewing Gary McCord, Peter Kossis's contracts for their golf coverage. says CBS golf viewers were no longer here. Gary McCord's On Course Humor or Peter Costas' swing tip segments. Network did not renew the contracts of the 71-year-old McCord or Costa's 72 years old, according to Saturday reports. Cord has been with CBS since 1986, Kostas since 1992.
Starting point is 01:20:47 A stunner. Kind of a stunner. A stunner. It's going to, I have nothing really against these guys. Quite honest, I know we're probably, we're pretty hard on, like, announcers in general. But these guys, the thing that will be, it'll just be different. different without them. You're so used to those voices and hearing those on the CBS broadcast that no matter who they bring in, you're going to be like, your ears are going to be like,
Starting point is 01:21:06 this is weird. Yeah, I guess at some point you've got to do it, right? Yeah. Seventy-1, 72, a couple old guys. Getting up there. Yeah. Getting up there. But they have been doing it for so long. Their voices have just become synonymous with golf coverage, with live golf. So it will be quite different. I don't know exactly what their game plan is. I don't think they've made any announcements yet on what the, I'm sure they have something in place that they're going to go with that they'll announce soon. They'll probably give it a little grace period once after letting those guys go.
Starting point is 01:21:31 But yeah, it was a stunner. It came out of nowhere. It wasn't like we had rumors. I didn't see any rumors that this was coming. No. There was no like goodbye tour that they were doing or anything like that. It's just like these guys, their contracts are up and we're not renewing them and that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:45 So I guess they just, yeah, they're not going to do, they're just done? They're not going to do any more tournaments? I mean, McCourt's been there. 86? That's 33 years. Are they going to give them like a watch or something? Yeah. Give them a watch, pat on the back.
Starting point is 01:21:59 A firm handshake and they kick him out the door. Give them a little box, put your pictures, your desk belongings in. See you later. You're gone. And they let Fertie go like four or five years ago. Like those are like the three guys. They've really, they've really lost the core. They must play hardball over there maybe.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Yeah. It's like, no, we're just not going to give you what you want. It's also probably like some new age person on like the board that's like we need a new voice and CBS coverage needs to go this route and whatever. It's probably a whole bullshit. It's all about the voice probably. So you're upset about this, Frank? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:28 It's like, whatever. I think we're going to hear a lot more about this and like what is actually... I think like Trent said, I think I'm going to have to listen to the broadcast to really be like, know if I'm going to be outraged or not care if it's going to like, if I hear voices that I don't enjoy or I'm not used to, maybe it'll strike me. Yeah. It's going to be strange. Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:22:45 If you get something in there that's just really annoying, you'd be like, well, this fucking sucks. It used to not suck. Daniel Kang loses in a playoff going for back to back wins. She is our favorite. She is the people's ladies golfer. She's been playing well of late, no? We're talking about it all the time. Yeah, she won last week, and she almost won this past weekend.
Starting point is 01:23:01 So she lost him to playoff, had another great week. And we need Kevin Kisner to have a really big week this week in China. Come on, because we need him to make the President's Cup team. Yeah. He had a bad week this past week in Japan. He just didn't have a great way. First time he's played a long time, but didn't have the week that we wanted him to have. We're going to see Kiz in about a week and a half.
Starting point is 01:23:19 We've got a hell of a trip coming up. And I believe we're going to be going to Australia for the President's Cup. So it would really be a lot better for everyone if Kisner had a great week in China this week and made himself a lock for the President's Cup team. I want to see a kangaroo. That's all I want to do. You want to see a kangaroo?
Starting point is 01:23:34 I want to see a kangaroo so bad. I mean, every time I think of a kangaroo, I think of the video of the guy punching a kangaroo. The kangaroo is trying to pull the dog away and the guy runs upon him. They sort of square up for a second. He just jacks him. Just puts one right into his video.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Dude, I'd say top five funniest internet videos I've ever seen. What are you talking when the guy punched a kangaroo, You're when the kangaroo kicks the guy. No, when he punches the kangaroo. I love when the kangaroo kicks the guy. No, no. Frank is pulling it up right now. It's got 65 million views.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Dude, it's one of the greats. So he's pulling it up right now. You're going to have to fast forward. Look how small that bar is. Okay. Yeah, get your shit together, Frankie. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Oh, they're squaring up right there. He does it. The kangaroo goes up. He's holding this dog. The kangaroo is holding the dog in a chokehold. And the kangaroo's like, oh, you want some? And he pulls the dog. Dog gets away, sort of steps back.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Here comes. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. They're really doing this like a DJ here. Okay. It's slow motion. The kangaroo wants the dog. The kangaroo is still holding onto the dog.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Let's go. The dog's square up. The dog's free. So the dog is now free. The dog is now free. Running off to the left of the screen. The dog's free. He's happy.
Starting point is 01:24:42 He knows that freedom is at the car where he's going to go home. Yep. The owner of the dog now has stayed and now is squaring up with the kangaroos. He could have invaded. He could have been in. He could have run away right now. Two professional boxers. I cannot tell you.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It looks like when they do the face-to-face. And the kangaroo is ready. It looks like they're doing way-ins. The kangaroo has better form, perhaps, human boxing form. It looks like here. Here we go. We're going to play here. They're both squaring up.
Starting point is 01:25:11 We're going to press play. Slow motion. Oh, they're size of each other. They're sides of each other out. Dude, the guy's actually walking around the ring. Here we go. Right in the chin. Kangaroo
Starting point is 01:25:25 Kangaroo arms go up The kangaroo It's like what the fuck Just happening He's staring at him And then And the guy runs away No he walks away
Starting point is 01:25:34 You got to You gotta get out of there I mean he pumped He punched that kangaroo In the face The kangaroo didn't even Really move It just took it
Starting point is 01:25:40 Has been stunned He doesn't know what hit him He doesn't know what hit him He's just standing there Looking around Like I just got punched In the fucking face Look at this guy
Starting point is 01:25:49 Oh my god And now he's going after the dog Yeah, he's dog. Get out of there. He's done. He's going home. He's gone. He just took a fist to the face.
Starting point is 01:25:58 A punch. That was. Oh, he just saw it again. It's really one of the best videos on the internet. One of the best. That was great. So Frankie wants to see a kangaroo. I think we're going to Australia.
Starting point is 01:26:09 And bottom line, it'd be better if Kevin Kisner's there with us. So, Kiz. Have a great week in China. He shot a five over par. Is what he posted this past week. 75, 70, 68, 72. He finished tied for six. 66th out of like 78 people not great so we need kids to have a big week in China I think that's all I got okay
Starting point is 01:26:31 how about Dustin Johnson and Pauline and Gretzky they look good she was this is a Halloween costume it's been it's been hitting the internet pretty hard today yeah she went as the Clover's cheerleader from bring it on and Dustin Johnson went as Jackie Moon from semi-pro which is an a plus costume and Brooks Kevka went as the dick in the box guy You see that? Yeah. And Jenna Sims, she was the devil that wore Prada. Man, Jenna Sims has, as Brooks Kepka wrapped around some sort of thing, like, some sort of, like, weird, like, you know?
Starting point is 01:27:03 What do you mean? I don't know. Like, she shows up the SPs or nipples were out, right? I mean, that's a fact. No, you're right. And then, like, now Brooks Kepka, like, slips on concrete, and he's, like, he's wearing a dick. You're laughing, but that's true. The word of nipples is funny.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me? he uh and now he's like a dick in the box and he's very sexual right now that's what i meant i think you know he's very like you know dick in the box that's a funny that's a funny costume it is a funny costume i just think like you know he had like he showed up to the sps and that after show and his hair was like all like grungy you know yeah it is i do like that brooks is in like uh it's like you think you're like oh i want to be like a movie star and i'm gonna like date the hottest girl in the world like brooks is going through that right now like he's a he's a superstar
Starting point is 01:27:46 are in golf and now he's like Jenna Sims and you know, nipples and dick in the box He's living life. Yeah. I'm not I'm not talking down on him at all. I think he's living my man. I do like that Brooks and DJ were doing a
Starting point is 01:28:02 custom party. I give it that's Halloween and he slipped on wet concrete to he's hurt, but our man was just in Japan winning. Lifting trophies. Lifting trophies. That's what we do. No dick and box for Tiger. We're past that are you kidding me? Yep. We got records to set. Yep. We got bloggers that made a hard career on saying we'll be back, so we need to be back.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Yes. That's right. And he is. And he's lifting trophies. And on that note, hit hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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