Fore Play - Tiger Woods Hijacks His Own Tournament

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

The Tiger Woods comeback train picked up enormous steam this week. Tiger “snuck in” range sessions all week at the Hero. On Sunday, he did it in his traditional red and black. He joined the broadcast booth. He was back, and we react to it all. Plus: Spieth and Stenson played from the wrong tee box; Tiger called Morikawa a more athletic Jim Furyk; The Tour announces a more comprehensive PGA TOUR Live with ESPN+; Viktor Hovland steals a win; Frankie had an epic night with Shay Mooney. Much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For Play, episode by Barstool Sports. We are back. It is December. It is Christmas season as we went over much last week. And we have been given a fantastic Christmas gift, which I will say, never in my wildest dreams or I think anyone on this shows, that I expect to have as much to talk about on December 7th and a positive light as we have to talk about.

And yes, there's much going on in the golf world. We got new information about streaming about PGA Tour Live and ESPN Plus. We got Victor Hovland. But mostly we have, I would say, the most positive last seven days of a one Eldrick Tiger Woods that we could have possibly asked for to the point where he wore yesterday a red fucking shirt and black pants to go practice on the back of a driving range in a tournament that he's not even playing in. And boys, if that's not an early Merry Christmas present, I just don't. know what is. Dude, this rollout's different than the past, I will say. Normally, it's like the Making Progress Twitter video from a couple weeks ago, that was a standard rollout.

Him, like you said, being on the practice range in a tournament he's not playing in is I love it. I really do love it. But I also can see that it is preposterous that it's happening. like and it also makes you think about the press conferences and the interviews that he's been giving he really is downplaying it and saying like you know i got to see how the leg feels i don't know when i'm going to be playing at a pj tour level ever again he's ready is he not ready and he's trying to show us that he's ready that's the big thing right so he's downplaying it in the media but then everything else he's doing subliminally is showing us that he is on attack mode he's completely gone.

He's gone from nothing. These pictures that are coming out that are just like behind bushes like taking a picture of this guy. It's like dude, you're obviously playing on the back of the range. Like everybody's going to take photos of you. And he said,

in the press conference, I think last week that he said, oh, I don't want to be a distraction during this week, but I am going to be hitting balls in the back of the range. You wore a red shirt on Sunday during a tournament you're not playing in.

I love it. He is ready. I think, I mean, he is definitely. playing the PNC this week, right? He's got to be. That's the only explanation. Otherwise, otherwise, there's no need for him to be squeezing in four or five range sessions during a tournament if he's just going to take the next few months off and not play until, let's say, February, March, April. Some people are saying he might not play a PGA tour event until

St. Andrews. Obviously, everybody's guessing. But unless he's gearing up to play in the next week, there is no reason unless he's just wants the attention, he wants everybody to know, which I hope that is the reason. I don't think that it is. There is no reason for him to be sneaking off to the back of the driving range every day, hitting drivers, hitting clubs, hitting irons, holding finishes, working on shaping shots, dressing

in his fucking Sunday Tiger outfit. There's no reason for that unless he's playing the PNC in a week and a half. There's no reason that he would do that. I think he is playing in the PNC. I mean, like, those were the early reports and I

I would bet I think it's better than plus money that he plays. I think it's minus 120 that he plays at the PNC. I was so stunned to see him hitting drivers that when the PJ tour put that video out, I thought it was an old video. I was like, people are going crazy over this video of him swinging, but it's not from today, is it? And then I did a little digging.

I did a little research. And sure enough, he's just piping drivers on the back of the range at the Hero World Challenge. This dude's going to be back. And I don't know when he's going to play an actual tour event, but it's going to be sooner than. than everybody thinks, and we are going to have some fun with it. Also, did you guys notice that his golf carts had privacy on it?

So I assume that that golf cart's just been pulled off his boat, and that's just the one that he drives around. I guess everything, you guys notice to that? Yeah, every mode of transportation that he uses apparently is called privacy. Yeah, I think that might just be a statement. He just, you know, and he's Tiger. He's like a little, he's just a little weird about stuff. I think he's trying to make a statement.

Maybe he's got his own network of things just called privacy. I don't know. but everybody was kind of going crazy about that. And it was a little bit ironic that, like, it's privacy on his cart. And he's doing, like, kind of a faux privacy thing by hitting golf balls in the back of the dry range when he knows everybody's going. I mean, the network coverage, like, led with Tiger Woods hitting balls in the back of the driver range. And you had a bunch of top 10 players in the world competing for a million dollars. So, again, we got a lot to get to.

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It was a glimpse of hope in my life, having a drink with our logo on it at the arena that I used to like and now at this point it could I don't know I'm not going to say anything bad about it but you know what I'm thinking yeah they've never won there right yeah we we've got to do something to it we we need like the Acme brothers from the Looney Tunes to go there and just you know what I mean you can piece it together was it the whole thing too like the you know the season hasn't really started until you lose a game at home it's switched out of the season doesn't start until you win a game at home and I I will say Blackhawks loss was brutal because they're not a good hockey club.

No, they suck. They're playing a lot better, actually. They had a horrific start. But I'm a little bit curious, Frankie, like, which is worse? How bad the Islanders are or are the fact that the Rangers are also pretty good? On a tear. It's as bad as it gets. The reason why it's as bad as it gets is because I feel like, and you can go back and look at the,

you can look at the proof. But I don't think that I stomped on Rangers' graves. enough compared to what they're doing to me now. Like, I made it a, I made it a point to ignore Rangers as an organization for the last two years. And I thought that that was like really cool. The fact that I didn't even think of them as a hockey team, never mentioned them when we didn't play them.

You don't think that that's like stomping on their graves to not mention it as a hockey team. I just, I just didn't go after the Ranger fans. Like every time they lost the game, they were sending out fucking letters to people. I just was Islanders nation. last year. That was the team. And now, roles have completely reversed within 24 hours. And I'm just, people are being so mean to me. And it's like, well, you motherfuckers went through this the last three years. Like you were nowhere

to be found. So it sucks, but I also deserve it. And I'm going to take it humbly. Is it humbly? I'm going to take it humbly. I'm going to take it humbly. That's one of those words where when you say them out loud, wow, Brennan Jones came in hot just now. That's going to be one of those words, it's one of those words when you say it. Rangers guy. Right. Right. Um,

even though the ebug for the islanders. It just sucks. And, Blue's had an ebug dress the other day. At this point, we just don't know, um, if you'll ever get a win.

It's just one of those seasons where everything could possibly go wrong. They can still turn it around. Like, they still have the hockey team to turn it around, but it is getting. It's getting crazy now. So like, if you,

if you ask me the true games that the islanders roster is lost, it's more than I would have thought. I was, there was a lot of games where it wasn't their team you had Andy Andrioff and Ladoo playing against the Rangers they had 10 guys out for four games that was like pair back Frankie is their number one is a Pelich and Pooch are they back now so no Poolock's out for six weeks he's yeah he's heard how bad it was over there yeah it's bad Brock's been out brock's been out for 300 and something games he's been out for two

weeks so it's bad and Andy Andrioff playing hockey for the New York Islanders on like the second line when last year you had a really good they have the roster they're losing a little bit more games than i thought they would um you know since they've been back from covid they've lost three overtime games in a row it's just not they're not fined in the puck in the right side of the rangers games these days i've seen the rangers games these days yeah i mean they're a hockey team out of box is so sick it's crazy so good he's so good i've been keeping my eye on the on the on the rangers What sucks is like, yeah, it's just... A really fun wrinkle for you, Frankie,

is that Dave Portnoy keeps betting the Islanders. Which is awesome. That's just so... That's what you're getting for sure. Are those guaranteed bets each time? Because if so, he's betting each time? Oh, yeah, absolutely. And dude...

He's now chasing this one down because he's in a hole and he's like... He's already on the streak. He's like, they have to win one. So here's the problem is that they've been favorite every game. Because, like, I guess, Vegas is just saying there's no way the islanders lose again at home against black box. Last night I think there were minus 145.

Oh, God. It's just horrific loss. You're just laughing now. You're not upset. You're not sad. You're just, you're laughing.

They haven't wanted to get a lot of. They haven't won a game at home. It's December 6. They haven't won a game at home yet. All right. So they got the sends tomorrow. If they lose against senators, I'm dead. is tonight for all intensive purposes.

The Sends have a sneaky, kind of gritty hockey team. But so do the Islanders. This is the thing that I'm going to end it right here. We've got to talk about more Tiger Woods, but I can't handle when people say that the team sucks. That's not correct. They're playing poorly.

They can't find a way to get wins. The team does not suck because the team was one goal away from the Stanley Cup finals last year. And the year before that made it to the Eastern Conference. finals. So like, you can't tell me that that team with that coaching staff, with that system, sucks. Yes, they are playing horrible. Maybe the worst season in NHL history, arguably. If they continue this route, it's the worst season of all time. But I will never concede to the fact that this team sucks. Like, Lulu Amarrel did not build a bad team. This is not a bad hockey club. They're just

playing fucking horrible. In your mind, what is the losing streak actually at? Because I know they've had a weird go with COVID and all that. What do you think the losing streak is actually at? You got to take four losses off the board because those, they had 10 guys out for four losses. So they've only lost seven in a row. So they've lost seven in a row. Three of them being in overtime.

So they're 0, four, and three on this run. You know, you've got points out of three out of your last seven. It's a bad slide, but we can kind of come back. Unfortunately, it's 11 in reality. So I don't know. Someone's got a good. The next 10 games, I say. I think they actually do really, really well.

I think they go like seven and three in their next 10. They're going to have Lurch. They've got to go 10 and O. I mean, the teams that they're playing against are not that strong. So if they don't have a bounce back, I mean, they're 21 points behind the Rangers.

Yeah, no, I mean, no, I mean, whatever they put on the ice, they've got a horrible problem right now. Do we just go for the first pet?

Do we go for the first draft pick? Like, what do we do? Do we like, I don't know at this point. I don't want to, I don't want to make this about, the blues again, but in 2019,

the Blues had the worst record in the NHL on, I believe, January 7th, and they won the Stanley Cup. Yes. It's December 6th. They went on an unprecedented run. The Blues went on a run that no one, like, I think it was something like 30 and five or some shit like that. Fired their coach, okay, brought up a goalie from fucking,

basically like, you know, playing Men's League on Long Island and won the Stanley the cup like four months later so crazy you never know stay positive they still got a whole month to turn around before they get to that you know breaking point that the blues were at um but they fucking are playing horrible right now so it's worse yeah worst team to league so um all right we got like i said much to get to we got a bunch more tiger wood stuff to break down he was on the broadcast he was doing all of his antics which i love um a few logistical items to get to we got band in uh duans episode two which i believe is pacific dunes is that correct um yeah yeah Is that the course we played second?

I think it is. That puppy's dropping on Thursday. Rave reviews from, I think it's dropping on Thursday. Is that correct, Ebug? Is he back there? Thursday's right. Yeah, I was hoping. Yes.

Last time he popped in, it was chaos. It sounded like there was a fucking party going out of the office. But Ebug did a phenomenal job with the first episode Band of Trails, rave reviews. So go to our YouTube page. Check that out if you have not. And then gear your ass up for again Thursday night. Basically, these things are feature films at this point.

I mean, interviews, audio from all kinds of different folks, different perspectives, footage of every shot, drone footage spliced in with this professional drone. We had people in airplanes. It's just a feature film now on Band of Dunes. So make sure that you're ready to go. You're fired up. You got your Owens. Make sure there's transfusion Thursday for Thursday night when we drop episode two. And then the Arizona Bowl.

So we have a little golf tourney, a little scramble. This is going to be, you know, the Barstool Classic has a little bit of a serious tone to us. You know, it's a two-man team instead of four. People are trying to make it to a championship to try to win 10 grand if they get first place, big trophy. This is going to be a little bit more of a hit and giggle, as Tiger Wood says. And it's part of a phenomenal extravaganza that the Barstle-Arizona Bowl has become. You go to Barstlesports.com slash Arizona Bowl and you can buy tickets, sign up as teams of two or teams of four. But we've got Wednesday, and Frankie's a huge part of this.

We're all going to be a big part of this, but Frankie's got all kinds of shit going on. Wednesday, December 29th, five people. We got the buckled bar crawl with Dana Beers, which is going to be fantastic. Again, that's kind of that weird week where a lot of people are off between Christmas, New Year's or at least worked kind of a joke for us. That's usually a week off. 8 p.m. We got the dozen live show.

Thursday, December 30th, 7.30 a.m. We got the Scramble Golf Tournament. That's at La Paloma. Shout out to Lurch, which looks like a beautiful spot down in Tucson. I haven't been to the course yet, but it looks awesome. And then 7 p.m. We got KFC Radio Live Show. Those guys are obviously fucking hilarious.

And I heard those live shows are awesome. I think you guys have been to a few of them. I have not been to one. So I'm excited to get to. Actually, I was at one of their first ones. I think it was at the Wilbur back in like 2016 or 17. I think I was at one a long time ago. And it was really, really, really good.

So pump for that. And then 10 p.m., our little drummer boy himself and his bandmates will be doing a live punk show at live from Tucson, which I imagine is going to be off the charts. It's going to be off the charts. I mean, the whole week is off the charts. The fact that you can buy packages and then it gets you into the other things, when you get a foursome or twosome in the scramble, you also get tickets to Pup Punk and the bowl game. Am I correct with that?

That's right. You get Pup Punk. You get the bowl game. You get all kinds of crazy shit. So the fact, like you said, that's all bundled together. It's insane. If you're looking for something to do with your buddies and you're even close to Tucson, even if you're not, and you just figure out a way to get there, it's the ultimate Barstow weekend.

We have a ton of fans across the country that support us no matter where we go, whether we go to California or Boston. And this is your chance to, yeah, I was trying to do two ends of the earth there. I was saying a couple ricochet shots it felt like with those two locations, but all right. Well, no, yeah, I was going to say L.A. You know, yeah, coast to coast, you know. Yeah, coast to a city. I did a state and a city. California to Massachusetts.

Yeah. But my point being is like, you know, we're always spread out, whether Pup Punks in New Haven. in Connecticut one day and then KSRadios in Boston, the next day. We're all going to be in one hub. And this is going to be the perfect example of why Barstool is Barstool this week.

Like you have a little bit of everything. The crowds are going to be insane. They're going to be into it. The dozen live show, I think you're already sold out. You're going to have live trivia, which is everyone loves going to live trivia, whether it's at a bar or a party. I fucking love going to live trivia.

I cannot wait for the dozen. And then you have the next day golf, like, Like just book it all, you know, like figure out a way to book it all. It's the greatest week. Trivia. Then you get golf and then you get KSC Radio. You're going to laugh at your ass off. And then you can rock your face off with fucking pup punk.

It's nonstop. And then you just get to go to an awesome bowl game. Boise State. Central Michigan. Fuck. You really can be a part of history. Yeah, this is, I mean, you can be a part of history because this is the future of bowl games.

It becomes a full on immersive experience that really only a company like Barstool can pull off. have so many cool things going on. And you, if you can literally be involved in every single one of them, it's the first one of its kind. Come out, come hang out,

play some golf. Like Frankie said, rock your face off, watch a football game and have a fucking blast. It's going to be really, really fun. And I know a lot of people are, are afraid of the barstle difference.

And, you know, who knows what the production's going to be all business. Pete has to be on the sticks for what is essentially the biggest game of his life. He's, this is a real bowl game that people have to just watch on barstlesports.com, which is amazing. I mean,

a massive stadium cameras. I think, yeah, there's all these things that they have planned, which are hilarious. I'm not going to spoil. He's going to have to pull this off.

But what you know is going to work are the shows prior, right? Like, you know KSU Radio is going to bring the house down. You know the dozen with Jeff D. Delo. He's been preparing for that for his entire life.

You know Pup, Pung, we're going to put on a show. We played a New Haven, and a couple got engaged in the crowd. Beautiful. Love Story by Taylor Swift was playing. I don't know how. she she pulled it off but when ron says and and he goes to a knee and says marry me julie

yet you're never gonna be alone the girl went to a knee and and now her her fiance said yes so it was fucking crazy they came up on the stage the whole place went nuts they're kissing sharing love it was nuts the love was in the air at pup punk so hopefully we can recreate some of that in Arizona in Tucson. Fuck, man. Pup punk shows are so much fun. It's crazy. It's going to be an extravaganza.

I'm, you know, there's some work stuff that we dread to a degree. And yes, we have one of the coolest jobs in the world. But it's like you're going. You've got to be on. You've got to be focused.

We're nervous about this interview. You're trying to make sure we nail that down. You've got to jump on a flight. This is just going to be pure fun for three or four days straight. Our entire company kind of coming together, all sorts of different brand. Like you said, from C to shining C,

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One last little thing that I want to tie up is from Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Well, I think Cyber Monday specifically, we did a little bit of a contest or an entry thing where we said if you spent $100 or more on Cyber Monday, we were going to give away some experiences to a lucky winner. So Trent and I have an experience. Riggs has his own experience at the Riggsie Palace and Piner's, which is going to be fantastic. Trent and I offered up golf here on Long Island

and then a dinner at Borelli's with my dad and we're going to eat like Kings and it's going to be fucking fantastic. So I want to announce that on Thursday we'll pick the winners. I was talking to Allison and Pilar and I think that they're generating and populating all the people

that went into this contest and the back end and they're going to just randomly pick one winner for our experience and I believe two winners for Riggs's experience. Yeah, two different winners. So, you know, said winner and a group of their choice will get three nights stay at the Riggs cottage. Fuck, man. It's going to be awesome.

Ours is going to be one guy with a buddy or one gal with a buddy. And it's going to be hell of a time. So Thursday, you know, if you bought a hundred bucks worth on Cyber Monday, keep your fucking ears peeled. Nope. Your eyes peeled. Keep your ears perked? Yeah. Keep your eyes peeled isn't a thing to say.

No, it is. It is. I'm sorry. Eyes peeled. Eyes peeled. Ears perked. Keep your ears perked. And that's that.

So Thursday should be a fun day. Yeah, Thursday's going to be great. I like that. I like that we're announcing. We got some, we get some big winners and they deserve it. So many different people bought merchandise. We're rooting for all of you out there to be the winners.

We've got all the names of everyone who spent over $100 on barstool golf slash four play merch on Monday once we announced the, you know, the prizes, the winnings that you can get. So yeah, I have acquired a home with Pioneers. There's a lot more information that I want to put out on it. It's been a dream of mine, really since I left in tears and all of that last year. I really kind of came up with the idea of I want to try to provide this experience to as many people as possible and kind of curate it the way that I want to because I get endless messages.

I'm sure you guys get a ton of them too about like, hey, I'm doing a trip to Pioneers. How should I do it? Where should I stay? What courses should I say? So I've been looking for a home there for about a year. And obviously I'm going to spend some time there. But largely, I want to turn it into the coolest golf cottage in the world, let people rent it out. And I figured since people support us as hard as they do, we might as well give away a couple weekends to a few of our listeners, our loyal listeners and all that.

So we're going to announce that on Thursday. You'll get much more information on the day with Frankie and Trent playing golf. Hopefully they get to meet Mr. Borrelli. I hope that's a big part of it. Yeah, if we pick you, just don't murder us. That's the only disclosure there. You just can't kill us. to the ground, please.

Because we don't know who you are, and it's a little nerve-wracking, like, not vetting the person you're going to spend a full day with and golf and bring to your family restaurant and probably meet like my grandmother. So just be cool and make sure that your buddy's cool. And then we're all going to be, we're all going to have a good time. Like, we're all going to be alive at the end of the nervous right there. No weapons. No.

Well, the thing is is that like 99.999% of people that we meet are totally normal. Everyone is super cool and normal. They buy our stuff. They listen to our shows. They support us. It's great. you know, is there the chance that we pick the one guy who, you know, stabs me in the throat as soon as we meet him? It's, you know, it's a certainly possibility, but I hope it doesn't happen.

It took you seven months to break 100? I'm going to fucking marry you. Just berates me the entire golf round and then at dinner. It's like, come on, man. No, it's going to be a good time. So, yeah, we're looking forward to it. And again, just thank you. Just now that it's Black Friday, Saturday, Saturday, we're a week removed from it.

Thank you so much to everyone that did support us. I mean, the numbers are overwhelming of the amount of people. that actually like our stuff. We see that with podcast numbers and videos. Like the Band and Dunes videos are already going off like crazy. But just to see it in actual dollars form that you spend your hard earned money on us is nuts. So just another thank you. One final one before the Christmas season.

I'm into the Christmas season. I'm feeling good. I have a little bit of a cheer in my heart today. I watched Home Alone one and two yesterday, back to back. I watched two last night. It was awesome. That is just one of the better movies possible. Oh, yeah, I saw that.

I saw. I saw your Instagram. Yeah. How old thing? It looked unbelievable. I mean, it's a nice real tree. It's no, nothing fake about it. Nope, nothing fake about it.

It's a beautiful tree. The lighting isn't insane. People are skating around. Does you get close enough so you could smell that beautiful live tree or no? You used to be able to almost touch the tree and now they have the barricades kind of far. I think socially distanced for the tree. I don't think they want the tree to get COVID. So we'll see.

Smart. Yeah. Nothing better than a good smell of a lot of a lot of. live tree though you know like you just is that really nice in the house my fake tree doesn't smell it doesn't really have a it doesn't smell bad but it's not it's not the same thing you're probably

you're probably plugging in those little things that that disperse the the smells around the apartments and you probably bought Christmas tree one how artificial of a Christmas can you have I'm done fighting this fight because I I'm happy with my decision I don't have to lash out at others to

justify my position I'm going to say one last thing about real verse fake. If you don't like the idea of a tree being in your house, don't go out and buy an artificial one. Just, just miss that part of Christmas. Like, no, that's where you're wrong. No, this is where you're wrong, motherfucker. You don't want, you want the tree in your house, but you don't want a real tree in your house. No, get to fucking. We want a tree out of a natural habitat. No, no, we want a tree, but we don't want what comes along with a tree. Then you don't get the tree experience. piece of shit.

Yeah, yeah, you do. They're just fake trees. That's like, you know how to make them. You don't get to say bringing in a real tree is preposterous. Why do you want sap and needles? It's like, well, you're trying to bring a tree into your house. You just don't want the actual tree experience. You don't get, you don't get to have the best of both worlds when it comes to your

Christmas. Guess what, motherfucker? Yes, I do because I bring a fake tree into my house. You're not seeing my point is that you think the idea of bringing a tree is so otherworldly insane because of all the things a tree. brings and then you like fabricate the tree experience because you want the tree in your house. Like that's not fair. You have to go and get.

But again, I don't want to talk about this anymore. But the part of the experience isn't what you bring in with a real tree. Like I like taking care of the tree isn't part of like, oh, this is what makes it special. I just want a nice looking fake tree in there because it's part of Christmas. It's, it's a tree. You're saying you're acting like the, the warts that come. with it are part of the experience when it's just not. It absolutely is.

That's the part that you've missed out your whole life. Getting the tree, picking out the tree, bringing it in, keeping it alive, like, decorating it in a certain way, making sure that the, the branches all fall and, like, the whole family's like, oh, I thought it was going to be a little less full. This thing's really filling out. I mean, Lurch knows about that all experience. You walk into the room, you're like, the tree looks amazing this year. It's a fun experience.

It's a part of the season. Lurch was a tree. Lurch was a tree for Halloween one year. Don't tell me. That's a part of the season. It's a great Christmas costume. Let's talk about Tiger Woods. All right.

Merry Christmas to all. Merry Christmas to all. Just said I was feeling good and you got me mad. You brought it up. Trent also goes like, I don't want to talk about this. And then just went on like a 30 second. Tiger Woods. So we obviously began with a little Tiger Woods.

One thing that I would like to bring up is how in contrary to this quote, a lot of what we saw was. Tiger said earlier in the week in terms of playing a consistent schedule in the PGA tour and the comeback from 2017-2018, he said, I don't see that type of trend going forward. I won't have the opportunity to practice given the condition of my leg and build-up. I just don't. I'll just have a different way of doing it and that's okay. I'm at peace with that. I've made the climb enough times.

That would be fine. But he practiced four days in a row to the point where he couldn't even be. at the tournament as the host and not sneak off to the back of the range to practice. So again, I just am wondering as an avid Tiger Woods fan and a fan of the game, do we believe Tiger Woods is being coy? Do we think he's being truthful? Do we think he's withholding a bit of his own personal expectations when it comes to his game and what we can expect moving forward here?

Yeah, I think he's definitely being coy. Sorry, did you go. No, what I was going to say is that after that press conference that he gave, I think all of us would have been, it would have been normal if he had put out a video a couple months from now of him taking another swing. Like that was maybe going to be the next time we saw him swing a golf club. But instead, he was practicing four out of the five days of the tournament. And the real indicator to me is him wearing the red shirt. Like, that is completely unnecessary. But I think it's a message to all the players.

in that tournament. I think it's a message to everyone out there to all the tiger fans that this comeback is going to happen sooner than we all thought. And I do think he's playing coy in the media. For whatever reason, I don't know what the reason for that is. I don't know why he doesn't just come out and say the leg feels pretty good and I've been taking full swings with a driver. Maybe he is trying to keep expectations low.

But if he was really trying to keep expectations low, I guess there's no real benefit. I guess there's no real benefit to being like, why not just keep it low, right? Like, I feel like that's the most beneficial is to keep it low. True. But then his actions say something very different. Right. But like some of his lines are like, yeah, I can't like, I've improved myself that I can do it. Like maybe he's just in that military crazy trained mindset where he is honestly going through basically, you know, shooting 68 shots Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and like what he would wear each of those days.

You know what I mean? To prove him like, I would love to. know besides just the one-off picture or video, how regimented those training sessions actually were? Because maybe he wants to hit every swing in the book that he might hit in the round to prove to himself that his leg is stable enough. Because, yes, it's crazy to think that Tiger Woods couldn't find an indoor area to, like, train and practice. And this morning, we're obviously recording this today. He put out this tweet that was like a total advertisement of some swing company that like, you know, he could have been doing this inside,

no problem behind closed doors and nobody sees him. So it's definitely a game. But I mean, I guess in Tiger's life, there's never been something that's like not been competitive or where he's trying to gain an edge. So if there's whispers that are going through the PGA and all the players are like, oh, he's back. What's he doing? You know, it makes tigers on their mind.

Do you think there's a part of him that's doing it because he wants to test himself? and see how he swings and practices knowing that the world is watching. Like there's a difference between doing it alone in a silo and doing it with the whole world to see. And he kind of wants to simulate a little bit of like, these are some pressure swings. These are some pressure practice sessions. Like I need to prove to myself that even in front of the world and if I wear the red and black, it's going to attract attention.

And I can now like simulate being back in the arena a little bit. That's what I was trying to say a little bit like of his like military mindset of like wearing the clothes that he would Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and taking that amount of swings on those days to prove to himself that he can do it is is crazy. And then to take it to a step further of like the world is now going to be watching because these are the first swings I'm hitting outside by like media. Like maybe I don't know. You know, if he's that self-aware that he knows just all the cameras will just be on him rather than the actual golf that's being. plate, then that's truly amazing. But I do think maybe there is a little mindset there of like, I'm going to go prove myself that I can do it. I can take, you know, 15 full driver swings, 14 full driver swings and play the course in my mind or something like that. Because it's preposterous.

Like him on the back of the range in red is crazy when he's this private life. And it's like, all right, well now like this is insane. Well, I mean, when, when Russell Wilson, was like taken right like he was he was taken basically warmups when they knew he was just going to stand on the sideline i mean this identical to that except we're all jacked up about it the whole internet was just roasting russlerus for how it's it's hard to get into tiger's head but i do sometimes i think we get thrown off by he does like to live privately he likes to keep his personal life very private you know he's been successful and unsuccessful with that in the past but when it comes to golf. I do think that there is part of him is doing what you guys are saying because he is still

Tiger Woods and he's competitive as hell and he wants to get back out there and he wants people to see him playing and excelling at the game of golf because that's been his entire life. So I do think there is something to be said for what you guys are saying that he is just weirdly going through the motions of a golf tournament at a golf tournament while not being involved in the golf tournament. All right. I think he is too. I think he is. The pictures, each picture cracked me up too because they were like behind a bush

just like way up in the distance like we spot him. It was just, it was so good. And then he's just in the most obvious spot maybe on the course and like wearing the most obvious clothing. If nobody else in the world wears red and black like the way he does. So it's just like, yeah, that's tiger. I mean that's there too.

It was kind of like a little like, had like a interesting diagonal kind of print like a tiger, like an hour. actual tiger. It was cool. I will say at first I didn't like the PJ, the first PJ tour video that came out of him taking full swings because like I said before, I like the rollout of him putting out the videos and him updating us. So I almost felt like we were spying on him a little bit with that first PJ tour video. But then when he kept going out there day after day after day, it became obvious that he wanted to be seen. So then I started to really enjoy the videos. He's, I mean, his swing

looks pretty damn good. I felt, I felt the same way, Trent. But then I, saw our boy Dylan DeCere who got stared down by Tiger and the presser who he did a little research and he posted an article about it and he wrote that that video was approved by Tiger's team before the PGA Tour put it out. So there's there's a little game being played here, boys and girls. Can you imagine being a player of the tournament and just looking out on the other side and seeing this red shirt and black pants guy ripping drivers back at you? Like how insane of a moment. that would be if you're just a regular guy on tour trying to win this tournament, just see. It's just a circus going on the other side.

Like you can't tell me they all weren't paying attention. Like they're not like, Victor Hovlin's staring at Tiger Woods hitting balls at him, being like, that's just Tiger Woods out there. He's the guy that won the tournament and he watched Tiger YouTube highlights. He said like back in high school and grade school. Yeah. All like he's about to win this tournament. I guarantee all he'd rather do would be go stand next to Tyler.

and see how he's doing. You know what I mean? Like he's on the precipice of winning this tournament. No, he'd rather be just standing next to the tiger and be like, how'd that one feel? Because whenever you're out of range,

whenever you're at a range, especially at these, like there's a lot of public ranges where the other side of the range will be where the teaching school is and like the really good golfers. And I've always felt like the other side of the range

was a whole other world to me, where the real players go, they're looking at us idiots who paid 15 bucks a bucket and like hitting off the mats. They're looking down on us from that other side of the range. And this was multiplied by a billion with Tiger Woods on his own side, at his own tournament, looking out at this field of guys who will never accomplish anything that he's accomplished in the game of golf.

And he's just ripping baby fades and draws right at them, just acting like they're not even there. Like the tournament they're playing in is just a non-factor to him where he's just getting ready for a father-son tournament next week. It's so mind games. It's crazy. Tiger Woods is so back when it comes to his presence on tour. He hasn't teed up a ball on tour yet and he's already in the heads of every other golfer in the field. Yeah, he took over the golf tournament. I mean, he hijacked it.

He took it over. It became all about him and it is his event. So maybe he did that to get more eyeballs on it. Maybe he just can't help himself and he wants to hit golf balls. Regardless, I think every single reason that we've come up with for why Ty went through the last four or five days the way that he did are all positive. Every single one of them is positive. The fact that this man nine months ago was driving off a cliff and almost killed himself

and that there was a few hour period where we were all unsure based on reports if he was even alive. And then we were unsure if he's going to be able to literally walk again if his leg was going to be amputated. And now he's out in the back of the driving range in red and black playing mind games with the rest of the tour. It's just excellent. It's unbelievably positive.

I want to highlight to, I thought, his broadcast appearances, when he sat there with Sansey, Steve Sands, and with David Faradie, one of the better Tiger, I would say interviews, kind of like chats, whatever you want to call it with him, that I've ever witnessed. You could tell, I thought, and again, you can't really compare it to what we saw at Genesis last time he was on coverage because he was loopy and who knows what was going on. and he ended up two days later almost killing himself because he drove off a cliff. So clearly that's like an outlier. You don't want to compare that.

This I thought was an outlier in the other direction where he seemed so comfortable. He clearly likes both of those guys. He calls him Sansey. He knows David Farrety. They've done stuff with the military before and veterans and all that. So clearly he's comfortable with both of those guys and he's at his own event. But he seemed so at peace. He was so conversational with them.

He wasn't doing like weird dad joke shit. He was just responding to questions. And I thought Farity and said they asked really good questions. And he just kind of was chit-chat and basically revealing much more like the normal type of tiger, it feels like, the way he speaks to his friends, what he thought about Bryson and Morikawa. And he had a phenomenal zinger at kind of Furik and Morikawa when he said that, that, that, Kyle Morikawa. And he literally said, like, no offense. I don't want to bring a, he goes, I don't want to sound insubric. insulting, but in a way, Morikawa plays like an athletic Jim Furek.

Don't take that the wrong way, Jim. I'm sorry you're watching. I'm sorry if you're watching. Morikawa's longer, but he thinks methodically around the golf course like Furik. I mean, him saying things like that. He didn't want to insult. He didn't want to insult and then he insulted both of them in a weird way.

Punishing blow, if we're going to be honest. Like just, well, all the blow. Athletic, weird swing. And then Morikawa's like a little bit better than that. it's it's a bad yeah people now to me the whole all the blow goes to jim furek because if you think about the idea that calling morikawa jim furek is being insulting is only really really insulting to jim furek so you're calling him not athletic and then you're saying i'm sorry to morikawa for even comparing you to jim furek which all just lays on jim furek just getting absolutely

fucking dominated by that like like you could take like i don't say i don't see that as being so disrespectful to Morikawa because Morikawa could say to himself, oh yeah, Jim Furik does like, has one of the greatest golf minds and, like, can get around the golf course and he's just calling me that because of the way I see and approach shots.

But really, everyone else is like, oh, Jim Furek, like, that's who you're comparing him to? Like, Furek's taking all the L's here. Every single one. I don't know, because if you're thinking that way about how Thurik must feel, then you also have to feel that Morikawa can't be, like Tiger didn't compare him to Jack Nicholas or to

Macquarie, he was like, it kind of remind me that Jim Furik guy. I think Morikawa would probably be like, that's even meaner to Jim Furik. He's saying he's the opposite of Jack Nicholas. It smelled to me that Tiger saw the graphics that we all saw last week where it was like, Tiger Morikawa at this point in their careers. And Tiger's like, all right, I'm going to go on this broadcast and take him down a peg or two because I can't be having this guy being compared to me already. Well, then I don't like that because then he's doing exactly what Jack does and we hate when Jack does that. I think, I mean, as much as we probably hates me.

Jack comes up, Jack comes strolling on the, on the, the broadcast and talks about how hard it is for Tiger to do it and how he compares him to all the other golfers he played with him. I don't like that Tiger's falling into Jack's fucking tracks here. We may not like it, but Tiger and Jack are far more similar than they are dissimilar. Fuck. Uh, whether you're customizing an engagement ring or designing diamond stud earrings, Blue Nile.com has you in complete control. You could build a more brilliant piece

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Back to a little bit of Tiger Woods. It is wild to think. If you go 15 days ago to the moments before Tiger posted that video of his swing that just said making progress, to think that we are where we are now from there and how much conjecture we did on this show, how is he going to roll out his comeback? Is there going to be a comeback?

Is the next blue background tweet from Tiger Woods going to be A retirement tweet? Is it going to be announcing a new start? What is that going to be to the point where he is now hijacking golf tournaments by sneaking off to the back of the driver range and ripping shots after appearing on the broadcast in a full golf uniform, by the way? A, you know, in the ring ready uniform for golf. It's just crazy. It's crazy to think that we're at this point.

It's crazy to think that we're going to, you know, we are, unless something horrible happens, we are on an almost unstoppable trajectory of having Tiger Woods begin a PGA tour event within the next, let's call it six months. And the PNC will be great. We'll get a lot of information probably about his swing speed. How far is he actually hitting the driver? Those things will be good. But like we're going to have those moments where we all get geared up for a press conference on Tuesday or Wednesday. And then he pegs it on Thursday.

And we're going to be super fucking nervous. And Tiger's going to step up to that T. They're going to announce him. he's going to hit a shot and we're just going to be back into it where we where we began many many many years ago yeah a week a week ago today we the news broke on this show that he was just doing a press conference and if you go back and listen that audio it we we were freaking out it was ominous we didn't know what was going to happen and then the press conference happened and it was about as weird as we thought it was going to be but i agree with what you said earlier rigs his

tv appearances when he was just hanging that made me feel very good made me feel very confident he seems relaxed. He seems comfortable. He's got like a little bit of swag. So it's so many healthy. Healthy. So many good things have happened since that podcast we did last Monday, released Tuesday. I mean, we couldn't ask for a better week, honestly. It's been crazy how fast the news has been like kind of just continuing to happen too. Like on that podcast, we were playing catch up. And then it felt like every video we were playing catch up on that again. But Trent, to go back to your point in Frankie's comment earlier about, uh, similar to Jack, different.

I think it's actually substantially different, like, between him and Jack currently, because Tiger's still playing. So, like, Tiger's comments to Colin, potentially, if that's, like, a little put-down or a knock, Tiger is still has the chance to beat him in the field. So I think that those comments come from a different place where if Tigers retired in saying something like that, it is wildly different.

But him still playing it, I mean, the mental difference in the mental battle, think is so apparent in the golf world that I do think it's substantially a little bit different that. I'd argue that you never lose that though. Like even, well, so we'll see. But I agree with you. And when I say those two are similar, I just mean that like in terms of accomplishments and success and the way that they think and the way that they go about doing things, I just don't think you ever lose that like the generation that's coming up behind you, you never lose that like, well, they can't do it like I did. And I don't want them to accomplish the things that I accomplished. Like to get to their level.

those two specifically, I think you have to be wired that way to always look at an up-and-comer and be like, I'm going to try to fuck with him a little bit. I agree with you. And then I think the difference between like a personality trait would be, are you actually going to say that in public? Are you going to like just, you know, let yourself believe that? Because that's where Jack loses me a little bit, where TBD, if Tiger will do that too, to the younger players, like when he's, you know,

when he firmly ages out and he's not playing anymore. But I agree with you in terms of that like mental shift and click of like, no, I will never be beaten. I do think that that mentality is similar between the two. Lertz, you're approaching a bit of a mad every situation with the sun appearing on like kind of half of your face. And I'm wondering how much it's going to affect you going forward through the rest of the show. You seem unfazed by it there for a lot. I was surprised. It was phasing me, I think more than it was phasing you.

No, it didn't. I didn't even really notice it if we're going to be honest, which is like, Maybe I'm blind out of my right eye. Laser focused. But I will say now that that sunlight's gone, I feel much better. Okay, good. Good. I'm glad.

Could be good. So, Calamore, Kyle, we're on the subject. Kind of a shocking blowing of a five-shot lead. He shot 76 on Sunday. I think he shot 41 in the front nine after pretty much being lights out the entire week. He had such a sick sand save on the 18th hole on Saturday to, to kind of hold and keep his five-shot league going into Sunday. He's methodical.

He's a machine. He's so consistent. You know, he's mature. We talk about it a million times. We've had him on the show three times. We've done a bunch of videos with him. We're always impressed at how mature that man is.

And he goes out there and proves pretty much that anybody at any moment in the game of golf can be vulnerable. You can be lost on a golf course. I think he shot, what, 64 or something on Saturday and then shoots 76 on Sunday, which is, you know, a solid 12 shot. swing. So a little shout out to all the haters who were like, there's no way you can shoot this when you're actually shooting 86. Like any, if, if Kawamor Kawa can have a 12 shot swing from Saturday to Sunday, we can have what, a 30 shot swing from Saturday to Sunday when we play golf. So it kind of makes me feel a little bit better about myself. Obviously, it's the fucking Hero World Challenge. It's Bahamas.

I think Spieth said that he thought it was actually a charity event. And so they, the fact that he's out there, you know, blowing leads as it is concerning if it would be in a major championship or something. Did Spey say that after his round, though? Because, I mean, like... They hit from the wrong T's, he's probably just like, what's going on. That had to be after Sunday, where it was like, yeah, I thought this was a charity. Like, I can't see him saying that on Saturday before the T fell up. He had a funny, uh, him and, him and Henrik did like a co little, um, you know, press gaggle thing afterwards.

And he did say, I was surprised they penalized this because we thought this was a charity event. Which was, man. How does that happen? How do you hit from the wrong T's? Isn't there people kind of ushering you in the right direction? Like I don't, it falls less on them and more on just like, where do we go? Where are we teeing this thing up? Dude, I don't think that there are people.

Like, it sounds like there's just not that, you know, there's not that many people out there in general. And I looked at the, you can see the pit, they had a still shot, I think, of the tea that they had been using and the tea. And they were identical. Like the T markers hadn't been moved, right? So it's not like one T box, I think was like clear, right? the T-box that, like, in theory, the T-box that they ended up teeing off of, should have just been cleared. Like, there shouldn't have been anything on that T-box, right?

Yes. If, when you go to a PGA tour of it, or when you go, when you go watch the Masters, right, like the members T-at-the-masters doesn't have T-markers on it. Like, there's no, it's, it's, there's one T-box that has the tournament T-markers on it. So clearly they teed off from a T-box that still had tournament T-markers on it, which seems a little bananas that they would allow that to happen. but yeah they both got two shot penalty i think speed speed then i'm shooting like fucking seven over or something but again i don't think they really cared that much right the article that i read was

kind of funny too because it said uh yeah stenson finished he shot x and then uh finished second to last place but then when they talked about spith they just said spith finished 20th and 20th sounds way better when you just read that with a typical field um so it actually painted speed in kind of a funny like good light there but their back and forth humor was great like as soon as they found out the penalty they're like yeah can we just go to the airport then like can we just finish 19th and 20 and just go to the airport now like I love their banter about the whole thing yeah I like the two of them they should do like a stand-up show together or something they seemed very comfortable they're staying like

taking questions about how ridiculous their day had been I like the two of them yeah they were great I did I like that the tour needs more kind of shit like that so maybe we'll try to get them on the show together that's we'll put that that on our, put that on our agenda there. Some big news, PGA Tour and ESPN Plus are launching sort of a new, improved, significantly improved, I would say PGA Tour live starting in January 2022. There's a lot of kind of good information in here that we're going to get to. First, we got to talk about a Bowling Branch, which is also going to be a new improved

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about the availability of PGA tour golf coverage. This is a very good thing, I would say, going forward. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm sure somebody who's lost their Christmas spirit in just an hour. I agree with him, though. The Islanders have fucking killed me. Would you see a notification? You were this chipper guy saying I'm in the Christmas spirit and now you want to off somebody.

I'll be honest. I think our Christmas tree conversation really made things turn. But is this? Is this? All right, I'm reading all this and I've read through it and it sounds all good. The main takeaway or my main question is, Is this giving us what we want? And I don't necessarily know if that answers that question.

I hope that. Closer, I think. I would say it's closer, which is better. Yeah, okay. I agree with that. I just hope it's like, I mean, it seems pretty simple,

the demands that we've basically made on this show. And I hope that we're moving towards a place where we can actually watch golf, which is, I think, what everybody wants. Watch the golf that's happening and potentially be able to watch the people we want to watch. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that, like, I'm sure the costs are exorbitant or whatever. So they got to see that those demands are actually real, that actually people want to watch it at all times. Because it does make sense. Just from like a simplicity standpoint, it's like, no, I just want to watch the holes and I want to watch my golfers play and I want to watch them no matter where they are on the course.

And that's been impossible to this point. And as gambling gets bigger and bigger and bigger, the demand's going to be there even more. And look, like our end goal that would potentially make us happy is we want to be able to pick at any moment, any player in the field and watch exactly what they are doing at any given moment no matter what. We want to be able to say Kevin Kisner's in the field. I don't care if he's fucking six over. I want to be able to watch him in Dewey. I want to be able to watch them going through shot selections hitting the ball. Where's the ball land?

I want to watch them walk up to the fucking green. I want to watch Kisner read the putts. And I want to be able to do that with every player in the field. And currently, there are so many occasions where you cannot even watch the players that you want to watch. You have no option, none, zero. And this is going to get us a little bit closer. It's a few more featured groups. They're obviously going to highlight the bigger players.

So it's not like, you know, the Max Holmes, the Joel Damon's, the Kevin Kisner's, unless they vault themselves up into top 10 in the world and start winning a bunch of pip contests, they're still not going to be on these feature coverages all the time. But that is the end goal, right? Like when Frankie says, I believe it, when Trent says, like, is this really going to get us what we've been looking for? No. The answer is no. Because, you know, any sport, if you're a St. Louis blues fan or you're an O in the last 11 islanders fan, like you can watch every fucking game that your team plays.

There's not going to be a power play that they have that you don't get to witness. Yet there can be a massive eagle put that Kevin Kisner has that we just will never get to see. And that's fucking infuriating as golf fans. Who is somebody that we can have on this show that can explain the. logistics to us. Like, what's it going to take and how realistic is it to see every shot from every player? Because we always talk about in this show, we harp on and we say, you're not showing us enough golf, show us what we want to see and all that. Like, what's the flip side of that? Like, I just want someone to explain to us what's it going to take and how realistic

is it that one day we can see exactly what we want when we want to see it when it comes to a golf tournament because it has to be harder than we're making it seem. We're assholes. We're idiots. we're just like, show us every shot that we want to see right now, make it happen. And there's got to be a lot more that goes into it. And I just want to know what that angle is and what side that is. So much more. There's got to be so much that goes into it. Bro, you got to think about the cost of, of the feed of every single golfer, like actually

putting that out, right? Like that costs money, like generating that feed out to a laptop and like going through servers and like making sure whatever we watch it on, it's going to cost them money to get it from that camera to our phone. So, like, we're asking them how many got, like, 140 guys in the field every single shot? Like, that means the technology behind when Kisner goes from hole two to hole three, when I click on Kisner's name, they have to know to change the feed from the whole two camera

to hole three camera just for Kevin Kisner. All that work just for one guy has to happen for 18 holes for four days. Right. And we want that across the whole field. I don't think it's physically possible. Right. And we're largely unsympathetic to that side of it. And I just would love to hear.

Yes, we are. I would love to hear what would all go into it. I think the best way to do it would be you have your marquee group where you're going to show every single shot, which is what they're saying. And then you don't have player. Like what Riggs was saying was like you can click on Kevin Kisner and you just see him live. I think that's it. In this next thousand years, it's unrealistic. I think that they can have one

Bro, I can never see them actually wanting to do that for a hundred something guys. Yeah. I think they should go hold one through 18 and just those cameras are always live. One through 18, you just click on them. So like we have to do the math or we have to do the searching on where our guys are at

and then you click on hole 17 and maybe they just have one camera on whole 17. But that guy is going to track, whether it's zooming in, and at least we can see a swing and where the ball lands. You don't have any audio, but like, whole one through eight,

oh, whoa, whole one through 18. I went to a Dan and Shea concert last night. My voice is a little cracky. That guy can fucking sing, Shea Mooney, man. That guy's awesome. We'll talk about that at the end,

but I had a hell of a night last night in Jersey with Shea Mooney. They can easily just have 18 live feeds as if it's a security camera at a restaurant. Like Borelli's, we've got 15 cameras rolling. I can just click each room or each corner. You should be able to do. do that for all 18 holes where at least we could see something going on doesn't need to have audio doesn't need to

have all the fucking gadgets just let us see the people going through the hole there's a there's a gigantic gap between no golf and seeing just a little bit like right now there's a game being played and like nobody's able to see it it's crazy so to the point that yeah frankie's talking about it's like the and we're staying on kevin kisner like if the cameras were connected one way to get them all the way to 18 holes and you could just click kevin kisner that's just amazing so i do think Like the manual work of going from hole to hole. Fucking Masters does it. Fucking Masters does it.

No, they don't have live. The Masters doesn't have live footage. Of every guy. And now Riggs has made a point and he's frozen. He can't defend it. He froze. Yeah. But I would, like they don't do it though.

The master stores it. Like you can watch it maybe five, ten minutes after. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You froze. No.

Keep saying what you were saying, Lurch. But yeah. I mean, I just don't think it's like ever. going to get to that point. Like, you know, that little manual work of like being able to see the player, I think is amazing. And then also, unlike that pit plan to like stretch it out, I think the thing that is most interesting is when you actually like get closer to the player, how they're thinking through the course, I would love if they, for a couple guys that were, I don't know, the fringe of making big bucks, they know they're not going to make on the pit plan. But if they ever opened up

the audio connection of constant monitoring from them on the. first tee to the 18th and you could just sign up for that and listen to everything that they went through. I think that would be the most fascinating experience to listen to of all time. To hear you like, you know, not to say he would ever do it, but like a Harry Higgs and his caddy and just and his brother and just hear them navigate the golf course, I think that would be the best golf of view and experience of all time. Yeah. And we all, we want every shot from every single player, but the reality is the world just wants to see the best players. And there a sense of, there's a sense of like, you don't deserve to be on the featured group until you deserve

to be in the future group. Like, make it to the big show almost like, the guy who's finishing last in every single PGA tournament is essentially the guy in AAA baseball that, like, you just, you barely know his name. He doesn't get any lime light, but he's not the fucking Mike Trout of the league, and he's just not going to get the cameras following him from the dugout to the fucking batters box. It's just a reality situation. Totally. But in that same effect, golf doesn't work that way of like their triple a player. Like if you're in the field, you have to have done something that's pretty damn impressive to get there on like a

consistent week. But I'm saying week to week, there are 30 guys that have no chance. Like who the fuck would spend their money showing and showcasing the guys that are 15 strokes out going to the wrong T-box? You know what I mean? But that to me feels like a crutch that the networks can use to not do anything. Like to say if you want to be on TV,

player way up to the marquee group, then they can just be like, oh, we'll just show the people that, you know, a large amount of people want to watch. I'd still like for them to try, and I know it's really hard, to try to get as many guys on a broadcast

or viewing opportunities as we can get. I mean, I think Frankie's point is like a good stopgap of like, if we could ever get to that plan of there's, you know, a couple cameras on every hole, which there really,

I would assume is anyways. And, you know, a person, doing maybe audio or no audio at all, but you could see, you know, Kisner play hole two. And then as soon as he's done, if you were interested, go to hole three. And then you could blend that by basically pairing that with a PGA tour app to, you know, if you were doing something else, missed him.

Now he's on hole six. You just click hole six. And you could see each shot that he takes. I think, like, I would be interested in that. I don't think that's like a terrible idea to make that possible. It's 18 live streams. Yeah, but also they are, they definitely already have the technology because it's someone who like kind of does the social. Anytime like, let's just say like Taylor Gooch or someone like

makes a hole in one, there's a camera there. Or if someone like chips out from the fairway, there's a camera there. They're just not putting that feed out. Because like they're going to put it on social. You see it on, you see random people doing crazy shit every single week on the PGA to our socials. You just don't see it on the actual broadcast. So it feels like the bodies are out there. There's definitely is. There's definitely cameras on every single show, on every single hole. It's just I think the manpower of figuring out how to get it to all be one in one application or one viewing experience

is virtually impossible. I just don't know that they could do it. It's the logistics behind it are they have to be impossible or else they would just do it, wouldn't they? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's a really good question. And I think that your point earlier

is probably the answer where it's like they know that not that many people are tuning in for 95% of the people that are in the feet. but a huge number of people are tuning in for the five or six guys that they tune in for every week. So why allocate all this money for 95% of the field when it's not going to really generate much now? I think that they're, you know, like as gambling and all that picks up, there's going to be more and more focus on the entire field, just like there's more focus on every NHL game. There's more focus on every, you know, sporting event now because people have an interest

and they are tuning in because they have money on the line. So hopefully that'll help. more throughout the entire thing. I also looked. I mean, the tour in 2019, which was the last full, you know, season, I guess. They did $1.53 billion in revenue. So I don't know what their margins are. I would imagine they make a pretty good amount of money. They keep every, it seems like every couple weeks when the, when the Saudis threatened to throw money at a league that they just keep upping the pip thing by $10.50 million. FedEx comes in and they keep offering it by $10, $20 million that you win. So it just, again, feels like it's not the craziest obstacle of all time. And I guess it's good news that they're getting closer and closer to it. Whether you're

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The whole future of it is exciting. It just brings a whole element that we didn't even really know we were missing. It was like he was so down and out. He was largely just off the radar. He popped up here and there in pictures. But now he's so fucking on the radar that he's hitting golf balls in red and black during the Sunday of a tournament. He's not even playing in. It's very exciting.

And it's December. So we got holiday cheer trying to keep Frankie positive, which he started the show. show positive. He started the show with good Christmas cheer in his heart. Frankie got him going, or Trent got him going on trees. So we're going to try to keep all that positivity going into the entire week and being pumped about Tiger Woods. If you had to put a number on it percentage-wise, and I feel like I know what all of our numbers are going to be, Tiger playing in the PNC. I'm at a firm 100-triple digits. 100%. Yeah, 100%. What is your percentage that he plays Augusta?

Oh, man. We asked this question a couple weeks ago, and I feel like my number was really low. It has certainly changed now. But what? Mine has changed dramatically. I'm going to say 95% chance he plays the master's. Holy shit. Yeah, I think I was the highest one maybe at like 66% last.

You know, I wasn't that high, but everybody else was low. I mean, just an insane amount of things have happened in the last, whatever, seven to 10 days. And here's what I would add to that. is that I think like 95%, I think it's a way higher percentage chance he plays the Masters than plays the U.S. Open because of all the things that come in with the Masters. Like I think it's just so conducive to what he does. It's control. People can't just run around with cell phones.

It's way smaller and, and again, like more confined. Augusta runs it however the hell they want to run it. They can protect Tiger Woods. He can, you know, in terms of inside the ropes, there's almost no one's allowed inside the ropes. Whereas at these other events, it's a lot more careful. So I just think he's had a history of returning at the Masters after the entire situation, you know, 2009, 2010. His first return back was the Masters.

So I just think that it's it's 95% for me now, not even based on timing. Just I think that all things considered that he's going to play that tournament. Yeah. And I guess if my number's going to be higher, which it is going to be, why wouldn't it be almost as high as you can go? Like what have everything that's changed in the last week Has led me to think that he's going to play And he's going to play relatively soon So why would he not play in the Masters?

I actually, the more we're talking about it, the more we're thinking it through, I'm probably up there with Riggs. Yeah. I'm going to say 75% that he plays the Masters. The reason why I'm leaving 25% doubt is because I think with something as serious and as important as the Masters,

he will go through and be very diligent about his decision with that opposed to the PNC. He's driving a cart at the PNC is a huge difference. He's playing with a son. They're playing alternate shot, whatever the fuck they're doing at the PNC. I think with the Masters,

he's going to be like, we tried. It's just not time yet. Like we're gearing up for St. Andrews, something like that. I could see that much more a possibility than him saying, I don't want to play in this little father-son event

with my son like that. We could play in the PNC with fucking, with our shitty bodies and lurches, spazs, and stuff. Like, there's nothing about the PNC that has anything to do with being healthy. The Masters is his reputation on the line.

And, like, him as a golfer, how we perceive Tiger Woods, he's not going out there if he's, if he's going on a knee again on like hole 11 or whatever happened to him, which we don't like to talk about. I guess what's changed the most for me is, if you asked me before that video,

the Making Progress video came out, I would have said, man, Augusta feels like it's right around the corner. But now, after this last week, terms of the Tiger Woods timeline, April to me feels like a long way away, like a long time to practice, to strengthen that knee, to do the things that he needs to do to be prepared for that tournament. So the shift in that timeline, although the time has stayed exactly the same, feels much different to me. Do you think he plays in any tournament prior to the master?

Do you think he has to play in a tournament prior to the Masters for him to play in the masters? Or will you still be 95 to 100% confident that he plays without playing in a tournament? No, I don't think that's going to affect my percentage. I think he would like to. I think like in an ideal world, he can get one tournament in before the Masters. But again, I don't know that he's willing to go out there. Right. Like Bay Hill, he's obviously won fucking eight times or whatever he's won there.

But that's pretty chaotic. They're in Orlando. There's fucking people over the place. It just seems a little bit too crazy. Same with the Honda. Like the Honda's in his hometown. He could just sleep at his house and play the Honda. but the Honda's got like the bear trap.

It's almost similar to the Phoenix Open. It's like people getting shit-faced and screaming. And like, I just could see him, even though he'd like to get some reps in, as he likes to say. I could see him just holding off, starting at Augusta. It's as controlled of an environment as you can possibly play in. He's shown up before with no game and finished top five. He can spray the ball a bit off the tee. And I just could see him showing up and deciding to make his debut there.

It's an exciting conversation. It gives, even Frankie just came out a spot, which is the first time in an hour. Frankie actually just made a great point about P&C playing the whole thing. Frankie's first two words, I just watched the movie Inside Out again, and you reminded me of the person's sadness out of the gate. But then you actually made a bunch of great point. But either way, Merry Christmas, it's a great conversation. We're just in a better spot than we were seven or ten days ago. What a Merry Christmas in there.

Well, I mean, think about how good this is. This is a gift. everybody we talked about tiger woods under the tree last time of just like you know i mean this is i've never heard i've never heard a merry christmas used in that way in that tone like merry so anyway merry christmas tiger woods is looking good doesn't chevy chase say that during his like crazy rant he just says merry christmas in the middle of it that's what it felt like to me but in a far more positive light but i'm with you this is it is going to be a merry christmas because I don't think any of us thought we'd be having these conversations,

certainly not nine months ago or even a month ago. So it's all things are positive in the tiger world. Well, Merry Christmas, Lurch. Thanks. You too, boys. Hit it hard. We'll be back on Thursday, as always. We're going to announce the winners.

We're going to have a new episode of the Forplay Band and Travel Series. We're going to have all kinds of good stuff, holiday cheer. So Merry Christmas. Jake Bass looks like he wants to say something. I want to hear, I'm all, I have to edit the podcast and all that. So like I don't want to want it to go along. I want to hear Frankie's story about Shea Mooney real quick. Oh yeah.

You want to talk about where you were last night? Oh, well, yeah. So Shea Mooney, friend of the podcast, we went to go see him in Milwaukee. Oh, Lurch just left. We went to go see him in Milwaukee when we were at the Ryder Cup. It blew our minds away. We always knew that Shay Mooney was a big star. That's why we had him on the podcast.

We never knew, or at least Trent and I didn't know the level of his fans and the fandom of Dan and Shay. I mean, he sells out arenas like that. I mean, 18,000 screaming women going nuts at every single song. My biggest takeaway from the Dan and Shea Milwaukee concert. And you, I like Dan and Shay a lot. I know the hits. I listen to the hits.

You know more about them than I do. But then when we went to that concert in Milwaukee, the thing that my main takeaway was that not only does the fans and attendants know the hits, they know the words to every single song that comes on. And I know maybe that shouldn't be so surprising because they're at a Dan and Shea concert. But every single word to every single song that was played was screamed by 18,000 people in that Milwaukee arena. And I was so impressed. Well, they've somehow found a lane to that so that every single song they sing is catchy. I don't know how they've done it.

They're extremely talented individuals. But so he had mentioned that he was coming in New Jersey. Another interesting fact about their tour, every single stop on this tour had been postponed. because of COVID. So he was telling me that like it's crazy that all these people left like kept their tickets, rescheduled their lives. Because when you buy a ticket to a concert, it's expensive and then you have to like set that date, usually do it months in advance. And then all of a sudden they have to do it again for all those people. So logistically it's a nightmare. But the fact that they sold out all these cities across the country is insane. Anyway, I became a huge Dan Shea fan. I love their music.

I think that's just really easy to listen to. It makes you feel good. And actually when I got engaged, we played like when we were walking down one of these things at the vineyard, glad you exist by Dan and Shea played so it was a big moment and then that night he facetined me to like congratulate me and then thank me for using the song because he had found out so he's like when we come to New Jersey you got to bring you and your fiancee you and your fiance have to come to the show so we went last night he's texting me like crazy being like dude like this this is fucking unbelievable I can't like I can't believe you guys are coming like bring your friends so we brought our friends mercy and Rob and they got married to a Dan

and Shay's song like their wedding stuff. song was a Danes Shay song. So he's texting me 10 minutes before the show starts being like, like let me know if you get in. Sometimes these venue people don't understand like how to leave tickets at the door or whatever. I want to make sure. Dude, he got us a suite and then also floor level tickets. So we were bouncing back and forth, getting food upstairs, going down, being first row

on the pit. And he sings the best songs of all time. His voice is outrageous. I don't know how he doesn't lose his voice. Like when I watch an Islander game, the next week my voice is gone. I don't know how he does city to city screaming at the top of his lungs. He does not talk from like fucking 10 p.m. until 7 p.m. He must just have the strongest like muscles in his throat of all time, like vocal muscles.

So then the show ends and we had the time of our lives. Rob Morris were crying during their wedding song. We got an amazing video of them like dancing to their wedding song with Shane Mooney three inches away. We were first row. It was nuts. and so right after the show I'm like I'll send him a text thanking him like hey man thanks for everything and he goes where are you I'm talking he walked off the stage at 1025 1026 I have a text message from him being like where are you he goes I'm sending a guy out for you right now walks us through the new jersey devil's like

locker room this guy's like it was like the whole experience of walking through the back of the stage seeing all the set people and then we just walk outside and all these tour buses are in the back I'm like you're not taking us on this fucking guy's bus brings us on the bus he couldn't have been a nicer guy. It was our first time meeting him in person. He's there just hugging everyone, looking at having his, like, ring and the whole thing. It was, he's telling us stories about how he got engaged and, and telling us stories about the tour and how, like, his bus used to be Taylor Swift, and there were all these things on Taylor Swiss bus, like this one trophy case that lights up. And Taylor Swift used to put all over trophies on the bus, and they'd light up.

And he's like, yeah, turn that knob there, Rob. Like, he remembered everyone's name, texted me after being like, that was the most amazing experience meeting you guys. Thank you so much. He's just an otherworldly nice dude. Arkansas guy, like Southern. He lives in Nashville. It's just like the whole vibe is so fucking awesome. And just it made me feel like I was in a movie. Like just going front row and then seeing the guy we just watch Rock the fucking people's face off.

And then seeing him just chilling there drinking a beer right after and talking to us. We were like, yeah, we just watched you for the last two hours to like melt people's faces off. And now we're talking about we're eating pizza and drinking like Trulies. It was nuts. It was fucking crazy. So that guy's really, really. It's just a man. There's no describing how nice this guy was.

And it was, what made me happy was we experienced a lot of crazy stuff in this job. We meet a lot of famous people, a lot of celebrities, a lot of singers, all this stuff. And it blows our minds, which to our, to some people think it's a fault of ours where they're like, you guys are fanboy. And I always say, man, like, I love you guys and I love working with Barstool and I love like all my coworkers. But sometimes I'm like, what would my buddy? and like my friends from home think if they were experiencing this with me. Like they won't, they're always seeing me on Instagram and me texting and it's almost like I'm gloating.

And I always feel honestly embarrassed by it where I'm like, you guys wouldn't believe this shit. And I got to bring like Rob Marissa there. And it was like watching them live like they're just like, they just have regular jobs and like watching them be able to go backstage for like their favorite artist and meet the guy. Like they were like shaking and in tears. And it was such a cool moment to be able to see that.

Because I feel like sometimes like it almost feels almost too normal at some point. You could be dumped to it a little bit. For sure. A little spoiled. Yeah. And like I don't ever want to get like that. So seeing that, like we were all fucking like holding hands walking to the fucking. Plus it's like that when they're so cool.

Like when, when she like when he's such a cool guy like this arms you and makes you feel like he's just one of your buddy. We walk to the car arm and all four of us walk to the car arm in arm like having a group hug. being like do you like can you believe that just happened and and all it is was we just met a dude who thinks he's our buddy now you know what i mean it was so fucking cool um just the coolest experience ever and yeah i just i love sharing that shit with people it's like it's it's it made me like so happy last night and and it was so easy for him he's the easiest coolest guy of all like when you're happy frankie yeah yeah yeah thanks and then the islanders i mean the islanders lost in a show all right all right all right while i was at the concert let's end on a positive note let's end on a

positive note. Everybody, Merry Christmas. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.