Fore Play - Tiger's Return Announcement Week w/ Francis and Nate

Episode Date: October 31, 2017

A wild episode this week as the boys are joined by fellow bloggers Francis and Nate. Francis tells his story of playing Royal County Down for the first time with this dad. The guys also debate peeing ...on the golf course and if it's okay to lie to your significant other about how long golf takes. In headlines, the crew breaks down Tiger's return announcement and Justin Rose overcoming an 8-shot deficit against DJ in China. Plenty of random behind-the-scenes Barstool chatter sprinkles its way into the show...You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We have a very interesting show tonight. Today, whenever you're listening, we really don't care. I'm joined, as usual, by my friend Trent. Hello. I am Riggs. We also have on here Barstool Nate.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Stop. And Barstool Francis. Hey, everybody. Welcome. A lot going on in the golf world. We got a big announcement from Tiger. He seems to be on kind of a Monday announcement. deal he's back
Starting point is 00:00:31 Nate says he's back Francis pun intended with the back with the back injuries is that what that is? I mean the fact he's playing is that a back injury joke Francis it was a back injury joke yeah he's playing which is huge he's playing and not for nothing
Starting point is 00:00:45 I love a good comeback story and if there's anyone that knows about coming on backs it's Tiger look at that! Let's go! Question did you prep any of this or did you know full disclosure that's a Chris Pratt joke Oh
Starting point is 00:00:57 Producer Brendan was like he better own up to who's that. I can't own that. That's a great. Producer Brendan was on. He was on you. Right from the beginning there. So we got a couple guys from the office on. It is golf off season, as everybody knows. I sit across from Nate and chat with Nate all day, every day. And we've had many conversations about him coming on the podcast. Nate, let me ask you this. When's the last time you play golf?
Starting point is 00:01:21 So let me tell you, I started playing golf last spring. And I played through the spring in the summer. and then we moved to New York last September, and I didn't bring my golf clubs with me, so it's been about a year and a few months since I have touched the golf club. Didn't you do that with your hockey equipment too? Yeah, so I brought my hockey equipment to New York as well, and now it just sits in a closet in my apartment.
Starting point is 00:01:43 But I did play one... I think you did that backwards. I feel you should have brought your golf club. I just thought it would be difficult to play golf in New York City. I was like, where the fuck do you play golf in New York City? There's nothing but buildings and trash and homeless people. So I should have brought my golf stuff, because I do enjoy playing golf.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I'm not very good because I've only played, like, literally for, like, four months of my life. Are you, like, fun to golf with, or are you, like, get rattled? Oh, no, no. I know I'm bad. I enjoy drinking in the outdoors. I enjoy running to the side and pissing and looking over my shoulder to see if anybody is watching. I enjoy every aspect of having fun playing. Driving the cart.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I enjoy the whole shit. You actually just naturally brought up a from the gallery that we have today. So from the gallery is a little segment we do where you can probably— I'm a W. I'm a W. Yeah. You can probably discern what the deal is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And one guy asked, one of his buddies got yelled at by, like, a woman from a house on a golf course called into the course and yelled at the course because he was pissing on one of the T's, not on the T, but like off to the side. Yeah, I have that paranoia where, like, someone's going to see me and I'm going to get in trouble, even though I know, like, I'm a 29-year-old adult male. And, like, you can't go to the principal's office for pissing on a golf course. But I still feel kind of, like, weird about it. Like, you should just use a restroom. but when you're drinking, you know, tall boys on the golf course and, you know, it takes me 12 shots to finish a hole. Like, I'm going to have to use the bathroom when I have to use the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Insert, she can't see your dick from all the way over there, joke. Oh, certainly not. She could be right next to it and confused. Francis, you got any pissing on the course thoughts? Well, I have no sympathy for that woman. Honestly, if people build their houses next to golf courses, you have to take what comes with the territory, and that can include errant balls going through windows
Starting point is 00:03:23 and guys pissing next to your house. This was exactly what the guy's take was that said it in. Yeah. He was like, I mean, that's just, you buy it. It's the exact same thing. It's all part of the risk. It probably happens, like, every day. And, like, she, like, woke up and, like, spilled her water on her nightstand and then, like, dropped her toothbrush in the toilet.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And then she saw, like, a guy pissing on her house. And it was like, all right, enough's enough. I'm going to call in this one. Yo, I haven't seen. No, that is an interesting story. I was walking home the other day. And there's a school near my house. Okay, where's this going?
Starting point is 00:03:57 It was like probably, I don't know, it was, it was, it wasn't late. It was still light out. So it was probably like 5.30. We can cut this if it gets a little. No, no, it's not bad. It's not bad. But I was right in front of the school, a guy was pissing on the sidewalk into like one of the trees, you know, a tree well. And I saw it.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And it was one of those things in New York where you're like, you see it and you're like, well, I've lived in New York a long time. This isn't unusual. But how close it was to the school really behind. bothered me. And as I walked by him, I go, hey, man, you know how close you are to the fucking school? And he goes, yo, man, I'm sorry, a man's got to go when a man's got to go. Yeah. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 That was the whole exchange. It's tough to argue that. And he was like, I just had to go, you know? And you think, but you can hold it for like, all you need is like 30 more feet. Or cross the fucking street. So what's the school proximity that you, like, when do you get outside of the, it's okay? If it's not an honor. Dude, I'm telling you, it was like the walkway up to the school, the school's right there on the front of the sidewalk.
Starting point is 00:05:02 He was no more than 10 feet from the front door. The tree probably had like a plaque. Kids were getting out of like after school programs, parents. Like, I'm talking 10-year-olds, you know? And here's this guy just with his dick out pissing into a tree. I didn't like it. It really bothered me all the way home until I got home. And then I was like, I don't fucking care.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That is my new mantra. Like, I don't care what anybody does about anything for the rest of them. That's like your life mantra? For now and yeah, I'm done caring about it. You tweeted today, new brand. I don't care what anybody else does. Right, because I try. That is a hard 180 from your previous brand.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Well, no. So I've gradually become a, I don't care what anybody in the office does. I'm just going to do my own shit. And then I started carrying what other people on the internet did. Like Adam C Best and like Sarah Span and all them. And then yesterday I saw like this like huge racist on Twitter who was like dropping N bombs left and right and I caught him out. bad for being a huge racist and people gave me flack for calling out this huge racist like
Starting point is 00:06:01 why do you care that he's racist like why are you trying to ruin this guy's life he's just like a racist on twitter i'm like because he's a terrible person you shouldn't be a racist if you're racist you should be called out and so people were giving me shit all day for it so now i'm done caring about literally anything besides myself there is where do you where do you stand on that because i don't care like him calling out racist i like don't give a shit about that like i think that's fine i think anybody who is being outwardly racist on a public thing like Twitter, fucking call him out. Yeah, like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, if this guy can't get a job again in his life, that means I did something good, because nobody should have to work with this guy. Where does this phenomenon come from of you can't, like, what do they call it, doxing? Docks, yeah. You can't dock someone unless they have, like, a certain level of clout. I don't know, because I've never heard that. Doxying means you, well, doxin means that you, like, put out somebody's, like, real name and, like, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:06:48 This guy already had his real name and picture out there, so I didn't even feel bad about being like, look how a racist this guy is, because literally all his information was out there. And I did get a couple DMs from people that know this guy who's like, that guy is a bad person and, like, deserves every bad thing that gets him. So that makes the shit up. Yeah, that made me feel better. I'm a big fan. I mean, yeah. If you're a racist.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I think it makes people scared, and that's a good thing. If we get one, don't be a racist asshole. Cleaning up the streets. Exactly. So you're like the, what's that, what are those movies where those guys go around and they. shoot the bad guys. Boondock Saints. You're like the Boondock Saints on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I was going to say any movie ever. That's true. Die hard. The funny thing is we can't think of any other examples. Yeah, fuck you guys. He ended up deleting his account and he lied and said he was self-employed. It turns out he's like, has like a real job and that's why he ended up deleting his account and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So, hey, one less racist on Twitter. That's the way I view it. I don't know how anybody else does. but yeah yeah there is kind of this this theory that like they can just you can launch attacks and it doesn't really matter is like it's almost like they think they're being funny
Starting point is 00:08:01 yeah I guess they go oh it's just trolling I was just trolling well you can't just drop end bombs on my watch and get away with it no there's a certain kind of that's like outside the yeah outside the boundaries N words way outside the boundary yeah it's crazy so I just far outside but like people are giving me shit for it like that's just like a normal guy living his life I was like well if that's your normal living your life guy you deserve
Starting point is 00:08:19 to be out it is a huge scumbag racist But now you're not going to do that anymore. So now my new, since I got a lot of shit for it, my new brand is be as racist as you want, and I don't care. So moving on, we're going to talk about Shooter McGavin, got arrested DUI, second one. Not good. One thing I want to say here is, first of all, it said it crashed his Porsche into a gas meter. I would have never guessed that Shooter McGavin is in a situation where he can be driving Porsche's around. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:08:47 No. I bet those Happy Gilmore Resid drills are pretty nice. Oh, yeah. And it's not just that. He's been in a lot of stuff. What else has he been in? He's, like, been in other, he's had, like, supporting very minor roles, but he's been an actor, a working actors.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I've seen him in all kinds of work. So what are, like, what is, like, a minor role that, like, I wouldn't really know he was in it, but it's, I don't know. Like, what is a minor role? I always assume, like, a minor role doesn't really pay that much. Well, he's, he has minor roles in movies, and that's a big difference from getting, like, a minor a role in a TV one episode of a TV show. I mean, he'll probably get $100 grand for a role in a movie.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And a big part of the reason that I asked this is because he was reportedly said to the cops, like, no, no, it's good. I was in Happy Gilmore. I missed that part. Yeah, no, that was in the TMZ report. I mean, when you know that you're about to get busted for a DUI and your second DUI and heck could have bad things, you might as well throw everything you can to try to get your way out of it. Like, just anything possible.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It's tough because I really like this guy because he's one of those guys that goes to bars in character. Yes. Like he's just, people take pictures with him and shit all the time. No joke. I had three people tweet at me. We were with him like hours before that was going on. They were just like taking selfies with a shooter and then he gets a DUI. What's the other name?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Christopher McDonald. Yeah. And one guy, one guy sent us a picture and was like, I tried to convince him to take an Uber, man. I tried to convince him to split an Uber with us and he wouldn't do it. That's tough. You hate to see that. You hate to see a shooter like that. See that. It's tough to see Shooter go down like that.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And we've had Shooter McGavin on this podcast, but in the Twitter form. We had Twitter. We had Twitter shooter on who is still a buddy of mine who I text with all time and he's Shooter McGavin in my phone. Really nice guy. Have you talked to him about these latest developments? Yeah, he was texting yesterday being like, who's going to be the one to blog the shooter do as well? So he's like, he kind of caught in between there as well. I think they're both kind of caught him between. Not good for his brand when the guy he's, you know, developed a character around has two.
Starting point is 00:10:48 DUI. No, but when you're like the parody account, I feel like you could really spin that. I think it goes the other way. He's the new shooter. You are like, no, I think it's like you own this name, but you don't own any of the actions that the actual guy does. Right. So you can just be whatever you want and whatever the other guy does, it's actually more headlines for him. Just get to fire off funny headlines without the actual repercussions. He retweeted our blog that we put up Saturdays are for the boys and that's what we put up. It doesn't matter to him. It kind of loves it. What else has he been in? These are some of the movies he's been in a bunch of movies. He's got a lot of movies. Requiem for a Dream Thelma and Louise Flubber
Starting point is 00:11:22 Nice movie Robb Roy I'm dressing piece RIP 2 of those American Pie like deep sequels Not the ones That's the ones
Starting point is 00:11:29 No they're really good They're really funny Beta House And they're like Yeah beta house That's one of the ones Beta House Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:36 Why do you know Do we get a quick Betahouse review from you Eric I'm trying to remember It's one it was There's so many Is he the new dad in those
Starting point is 00:11:43 Or what he's He's dad's in everything Eugene Levy is in all those movies It became like his movie Like series But they're all very funny They're always on Comedy Central
Starting point is 00:11:54 At like one in the morning Would recommend Says the guy who says he goes to bed The moment he gets home The second I hit the pillow Okay Hold on We also have
Starting point is 00:12:03 He was also in Leave It to Beaver He was in House Bunny So Francis I got to ask you So the reason that we're Kind of grabbing people on
Starting point is 00:12:17 is because we have other guys in the office besides Trent and myself to play some golf. I love golf. Absolutely. Who doesn't? Golf's fantastic. I know that I've been, I've had many conversations about funny, random, awkward stories, things that happen on the golf course. And you're just kind of one of those guys that just funny shit happens to or you kind of, whatever, you have a perspective and you kind of capture it, whatever. So I asked you to come on and tell a couple stories if you have any from golfing recently.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Sure. I got a good one. I was in Ireland with my dad in May for his birthday. The two of us, we tend to go on like a father-son trip. We like to play golf together, and we've been to Scotland, and we went to Ireland this year. Francis was actually one of my advisors on my Scotland trip. Which was an amazing trip, what he put together,
Starting point is 00:13:05 what looked like an amazing trip. It was amazing, thank you. We could relive it if everybody wants to, but I guess we don't have to. We already got a podcast on that. We don't have to do that. This was the first time I did. been to Ireland and the crown jewel course in Ireland is a course called royal county down it's perennially recognized as one of the top if not the top golf course in the world yeah occasionally
Starting point is 00:13:26 it's ranked like number one number one yeah and i you know it's hard to i mean it's so subjective but um we we played a couple of warm up courses and that was the course we were really looking forward to we drove up uh it's in northern island uh which of course is a different country from ireland people forget that yeah people do forget that yeah it's confusing That's where Roy's from. That's where Graham McDowell is from. Yeah. And it all has to do with...
Starting point is 00:13:49 That is not where Patrick Harrington's from. It's all has to do with religion. That's exactly why the lines were drawn. Right. It's Protestantism versus Catholicism. And it was violent until not long ago. Well, whenever you... If you ever hear, if you ever get asked a question about Ireland and Northern Ireland, he gets very, very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. I mean, it was like blood in the streets, thousands of people are. I will say religious conflicts are occasionally violent. Right. Yeah. That's very true. Long history. It's just kind of a...
Starting point is 00:14:16 You look at the Crusades or the Arab-Israeli conflict. Yeah. More blood than usually not blood. That's definitely a little bit different subject. But it's true. I mean, it's definitely true. Yeah, that's very true. So anyway, so we go up to Royal County Down.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You know, we get to our hotel, check in, and we go out and we have an 8 a.m. tea time, 9 a.m. tea time the next morning. We're really excited about it. We get out there. And, of course, Royal County Down is they pack the... tea sheet back to back to back to back all day long. And there are only a couple days of the week where tourists are allowed to play, and they leave the rest of the days open for members.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But we were there on a particular day when we... So basically the point is they forced you to go out in a forcum, and it was just my dad and me. So we were paired up with a Korean couple, a husband and a wife. They were probably about 60, both of them. and if you don't know how Korean people play golf, how do I put this delicately? They're very careful. Maticulous.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Very meticulous in the way that they play golf. To the extent that there are very few variables they don't account for with each shot, wind speed, birds that might be in the trees, flight patterns overhead, the tilt of the Earth's axis. all of these things are researched and asked of the caddy before each swing. And the problem with that is that it really lowers the pace of play. Certainly. And this is a course that...
Starting point is 00:15:53 Just a numbers thing. Yeah. You know, this is a course that they get on you. I mean, it's a well-oiled machine. And if anyone is holding up the pace of play, the warden comes out in a little cart, and he sort of gently exerts pressure until it becomes a problem. Big thing in the UK, pace of play. Like, in the UK, they do not fuck around.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Right. Where America, a lot of our, like, touristy courses, like, five and a half, six hour around. Everybody's taking pictures. The UK, it's like, if you're not playing another four hours, you are pathetic. Right. Kick you out of the whole situation. And it's just such a big part of, like, their tourism, like, income is golf. So, like, they're losing money if they can't get enough groups out.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Right. So they're taking forever. We get to, like, I was playing really well. And I was like one under through eight holes, and it was, the rain was coming down. It was super windy. And I was just like, I couldn't believe it. One of those situations where you just like try not to think about what's happening. And I just wanted to get through nine holes, like under 40, which is always a goal.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Are you a good golfer in general? I'm pretty good. Yeah, like 8.1 is my handicap, which. Yeah. I don't know. Solid. It's pretty solid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Definitely. But being one under through eight is very good. Yeah. So you're jacked up. Yeah. I was playing way beyond. for that course it was playing way above my head.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Which when you're playing well, all the things that you would otherwise be fucking rattled about, you're like, they're skirting by. Yeah. Because you're like, yeah, you know, we're having a beautiful day. Yeah, and it also makes you enjoy the course so much more. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:25 And to have my like marquee round at Royal County down, the course that we had really earmarked as being the number one destination in Ireland for us was my, was amazing to me that it all came together on that day. I've never played terrible and been like that course was awesome. Right. I've been like, fuck that course.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Yeah, exactly. Can really discolor your memory of most. You can play Augusta, shoot 110 and be like, that place is so overrated. That place is the worst. Basically, it's dump. Is there the Masters there? They host it there? I hate Atlanta, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Atlanta? No. Augusta. Augusta. But like, it's nearer. Atlanta? Yeah, it's outside of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We flew into Atlanta and then I almost killed us in a car. Augusta is actually a dump. The town surrounding the course is an absolute dump. Big time. Sure. That's what I've heard. It's like all strip malls. Yeah, it is very much.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So anyway, on the eighth pole, the warden comes up and our caddy, I had a caddy from my, there was a caddy from my dad and me. You have to take caddies. And then the Korean couple had a caddy. And our caddy was whispering to my dad and me, my God, we're going to get in trouble. Like, these people are taking forever. And they're doing their best, right, to speed them up. Go ahead, hit. up, you know, showing them everything.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But they're just taking forever. I'm talking like seven or eight practice swings, lining up putts, walking to the other side of the hole to read their puts, and they're five putting. So it's fucking offensive. You know what I mean? So it's like, oh, gee, what's the fucking point? And sure enough, the warden comes up in his little buggy, and he gets us behind us,
Starting point is 00:18:59 and he's like, he goes, he goes, this group is playing way too slow, way too slow. and now That's a great Irish I feel like that's why the story's getting told Because that was a great Irish I was actually shocked that it took you The story ends right there It's like I did my accent
Starting point is 00:19:15 And it's all right So now my dad and I Start getting rattled Because this guy doesn't know That it's just the Korean couple That is you didn't throw him under the bus You have to You got right under the bus
Starting point is 00:19:28 At that point That was the early going of the pressure And then sure enough Like the next hole He comes back up And this time he drives the cart onto the T-box right behind us as we're all teeing off. That's not rattling at all. And he starts like clicking with his finger.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He's snapping like this, like a fucking, I don't know, overseer, you know. Upset housewife. Yeah, exactly. And I, you know, this is the ninth hole. I'm one under and I top my drive into the gorse, lose a ball, get an eight on the hole. And my day's ruined. Yep. all because of Korea.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You know what I mean? And we never recovered. We never recovered. It became like a really contentious kind of uncomfortable situation where they would say to the Korean couple, you have to hurry up. And they would be like, we flew 16 hours to play this course. And what are they going to do? They can't kick them off the course.
Starting point is 00:20:24 At one point, we tried separating and going two ball and a two ball. My dad and I went ahead. But we caught the group in front of us. So they were like, well, now you're just holding everyone up. So they brought us back to play with them. the crean couple was like oh you're back yeah that's the even worse it's like cheating on your wife and then be like i'm gonna go marry this girl i'm in love with her and then you're like oh it didn't work out can you take me back um so that is such
Starting point is 00:20:47 when you say goodbye to someone you walk in the same direction yeah yeah it was really just a nightmare and unfortunately the whole day is really misdiscolored as a result of that experience and uh that's what happens and otherwise magical day was what you ended up shooting i don't i mean i stopped keeping score. The back night I probably had at least 55 or something. I was losing balls. I was just like pissed, you know, grumpy. And my poor dad who was like looking forward to this father's son moment and shelled out
Starting point is 00:21:17 all the dough for us to play is trying to keep on a good face. He's so positive. And meanwhile, I'm like fucking Korea, you know? Just like the racism and setting in. It's not a good scene. Korea is really, this is not a great podcast for Korea. Sorry, gang. I think the tour just.
Starting point is 00:21:34 had an event there last week too. Oh, they did. We're really celebrating golf in Korea, all that. Maybe they should play a little quicker over there. Yeah. Yeah, that's slow play. I will say I'm a little startled by their reaction, being like, no, no, we flew 16 hours.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like, we will take forever. That's kind of a baller, like, response to that. Yeah, because usually, what can you say? Most people cave with the marshal. The marshal's like the most powerful guy in the world. Especially with a guy who's, like, clicking back there. Right. I'm cave in an instant.
Starting point is 00:22:01 When the marshal's getting on you, I'm like sprinting. I'm playing the fast. is called if you ever seen right right these people were like suck my dick marshal pretty much yeah and and i you know respect that a cultural difference i think in in korea they everyone takes exactly the amount of time they want and that's the way it is so besides that you had a good time over there then yeah we did we did we did we did have a really nice time podcast night in the end you know it's great to just hang out with your dad every once in a while and for four days and have a couple beers and you know drive around that was nice it's a nice moment folks this podcast brought to you by the tie bar no way
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Starting point is 00:25:58 Another from the gallery we got. So this kind of came up on Twitter this last week, but... So one guy tweeted to me about this is, this is the theme of this basically is, um, white lies to your significant other about golf and how long golf takes. One guy tweeted to me that he convinced his now wife really early on in their relationship that golf takes eight hours. So whenever he comes in early, she's like thrilled and thinks that he's like this great guy. Like, oh, baby, you played quick today.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Who rushed home, even though golf with his buddies takes three and a half, four hours. They have a beer or two afterwards. He's home in six hours. Pretty good. Then I tweeted out that I convinced the girlfriend, this was in high school, I convinced a girlfriend that I played a course one day. That was actually like a really old school course, no cell phone policy. Marion? No, this was, this was way back in the day.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And I played, it was TCC up in Boston. The country club. the country club and they have strict no cell phone policy and so I was I played this girl that I had like just kind of recently started dating but it was like getting to that point we were talking about whatever she texted me all the time I didn't text you back for like four or five hours and I responded was like you know they have no cell phone policy sorry about that I couldn't text you and she was like oh are all courses like that and realize that and I was like yes yes Fuck that girl
Starting point is 00:27:29 I was like yes They absolutely are And for you know A couple months that we dated after that This was she just thought that So whenever I would go golfing for you know Five six hours total No texting back
Starting point is 00:27:43 It was fantastic Amazing And a couple people replied We had a couple losers Replying being like Why don't you find yourself a girlfriend That you don't have to lie to But when you go enjoy time with your buddies
Starting point is 00:27:53 So That doesn't exist The question kind of becomes should you be trying to deceive a sitting and another that's not familiar with golf into some of the kind of practices in terms of how it takes, whatnot, so that you can just sneak away basically. The relationships are built on lies. It's just like what can I say to make her not hate me. So basically everything you do in a relationship is to make her not hate the real you.
Starting point is 00:28:25 While still being the real you. And, you know, as much as possible. But, yeah, like, if your main thing is golfing and you know every Saturday, like, you're like, I don't want to talk to that broad for, sorry, to your lovely girlfriend for, like, you know, a few hours. I love how you're like a bad boy with, like, a Harley now. I don't want to talk to that broad. Yeah. So, like, yeah, like, every relationship is basically built on a lie around what your favorite thing is. So if your favorite thing is golf, and that's when you want to be with your buddies and not have to worry about, you know, how come you didn't pick up eggs on the way home?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Like, then, you know, you tell her no fucking. phones on the golf course. It's the same as if you're really into anything. You just make up a lie about it that she's too dumb to look up herself and then like your relationship is smoother in the long run. Yeah, I mean, when I had a girlfriend recently... You've never discussed
Starting point is 00:29:11 that you've had one, so that's shocking. Well, I don't talk about it anymore because we're not dating anymore. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's okay. It's for the best. It's a nice moment between the two of you. Yeah. Well, anyway, when I was dating, when we were dating, I used to play golf a lot and my course allows cell phone use, but I would just tell her,
Starting point is 00:29:30 hey, during this time, I'm not going to be using my cell phone. And she was okay with that. So, like, I was honest, but it was like, hey, this is the deal. I don't want to have my cell phone on the course, and then I'll be gone for five hours.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'll be kind of in a basement. And being for real, not joking, I just picked up golf, like, you know, a year ago, a little over a year ago. It was cool to be,
Starting point is 00:29:52 you know, I would, yeah, no. would go with the same three guys every Saturday. And it was nice just to be there and not have to worry about, you know, Twitter or like just like real life for a bit. You're on the course. You're drinking beers.
Starting point is 00:30:05 You're, you know, I'm shooting like a 115, but I'm not really caring because it's like a little bit of a separation from like actual life. Play your game, Nate. Yeah. Yeah. This, I mean, this job is kind of ruined golfing that way for, I don't know about how it is for you guys. But if I'm without my phone for like an hour, I am extremely stressed out. And I want to look at my phone as much as I can. Of course, and that's why golf is cool in that way, where it's like you're one time.
Starting point is 00:30:28 We're like, all right, I'm going to step away from my phone and just have, like, that little bit of sunshine in my life where, like, the world around me doesn't suck. Okay. But I also think that certain people that work here are, like, more on call than other people. And I think you guys, like, especially rigs with political stuff and, you know, golf stuff, you guys and Nate, I guess now, whenever someone comes at a bar stool. Literally everything in the world. Or anyone with any sort of racist Twitter history. With anybody with an opinion that's different than mine. You guys need to be like close to a phone or close to your computer and ready to go.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And nobody really expects anything for me. So it's a luxury because I can just disappear for a Saturday. I'm so jealous. I mean, Nate, you remember in the early days? We used to talk about all the time. If we had to go anywhere without our phones, we just wouldn't do it. We would shut off our social lives. stop doing all that stuff because you just had to always be on call.
Starting point is 00:31:24 That's when there were like eight of us. Me and Trump were hired like three months apart and we would just talk to each other about like every day about how we thought we were going to be fired and then like Friday and Saturday, hey, are you going out tonight? No, I'm too scared to go out. Like we didn't leave our houses. Our computers were probably like the first six months to a year. Probably more than six months.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You guys both started what four years ago? Yeah. Yeah. So let me ask you this. Everybody always says like, you know, we were cranking out like 12 blogs a day. How many blogs were you guys really posted a day, you think? like 10. Yeah, 10 a day.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So that's when there were probably six or seven bloggers. I mean, yeah, we moved to New York City. There was 15 of us total. We were, you know, we were probably in the first, like, eight bloggers. Yeah, we used to go up, you used to put a blog up every 45 minutes. Yeah. From 9 to 5. It was, I have a text, a trend.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I'm going to try to find it, see if I still have it. It was Christmas, and the Wizards were playing, and John Wall did, like, a 360 layup. And I was just like, I need a blog. this. I'm so scared my mom's going to hate me. And I took out my laptop, like, in the middle of Christmas, and I just start blogging like John Wall. It's like, yeah, like, what else are you going to do? And that's how, like, beat down into the ground. It seems like we're waxing poetic now. We're like, oh, those are the old days when you put up 10 blogs day. But it was a terrifying time. It sucked. It was a
Starting point is 00:32:36 time to work here. It's awesome. I loved it, but it was terrifying. So I'm curious because now my goal every day on a weekday is to publish four blogs. I try to do five. That's my goal. Just with the way that kind of like my lane works, I think that, like, four the right spot and like I you know I try to make my blogs like relatively dense and so I can't like they're gonna get so my question is like when you're posting like 10 a day do you feel like you post a lot more shitty blogs
Starting point is 00:33:00 oh yeah yeah it was wild because you had like Big Cat who was doing like 12 a day like I would try to do 10 a day it was probably usually around like 8 to 9 but Big Cat was doing probably like 12 a day and if literally anything happened
Starting point is 00:33:16 on the internet everybody was scrambling to be the first person to get it up That's why we had like reblogs like nonstop because like you felt like it was like a life or death situation. Like a story broke if you didn't get it up like you felt like, well that's it. They don't need me anymore. I'm fired now. Keith blogs a lot now. But he was even back then he was definitely less of an advisory role and more a blogger like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So we would all just push out as many stories as we could. So reblogs would happen like four times a day. I mean it was just everybody was at each of their throats. Because like if you missed like one blog, like that's why we didn't leave our house on Saturday. It's like, oh, my God, what if, like, RG3, like, you know, clips his finger now wrong and I need to blog it. And I didn't get it up within, like, 15 minutes. You just felt like your life was over. And, like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Dave's going to fire you. And that's how it felt for the first three years that we worked here. No pressure situation. It's funny because I will say that, you know, I feel that way now still to, like, I don't feel like I've been off work since we started. I haven't stopped it for years. And I don't, again, that's not. Like, you know, I'll go out on a Saturday, play golf all day and just check my phone every hour or so. If nothing happens, I don't have to blog anything.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's totally cool. Not a problem. But I still, like, when I go out, I always put my, when I play golf, I always put my phone on Do Not Disturb. And a lot of times, like, whatever, I'm focused. I'm in a group and have fun. I'm just like, for whatever reason, I won't check it for like two hours. And I, when I do realize that I haven't checked in two hours, I get, like severe anxiety. And I get the sphere that I'm pull it up and it's going to say, like, Dave Portnoy.
Starting point is 00:34:46 It's going to be a, oh, my God. Like, what am I going to? Dude, there's a comedian that I did a set the other night. I had to tell this joke. He talks about, like, phone anxiety. And he's like, I'm so obsessed with my phone. It's so obsessed with checking my phone that the other day I reached down to check my phone because I thought it was buzzing. And I didn't even have any pants on.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's, yeah. Yeah, it's just a muscle memory. He's just naked on the waist down and he reached down to check his phone. I love that. I've done that in the shower. I've reached down my leg. And I've been like, no, you dumb ass. in your shower.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I do like to talk about the old days because it's so bizarre. Like, it's still, it's still the same company. But, like, when we worked from home, it just, it was this different feeling. You know, we didn't have salespeople. We didn't have, like, you know, we didn't have all these technology people. It was really just like, well, Dave. And one of the big. The dumbass blogger.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, that's what it was. And one of the big differences now is Dave is very busy with he, he's running a whole huge company now. He's got to make decisions. He's got meetings. he's somewhere, I don't know, he think he's in California this week. But this, back in the old days, he would just sit at his apartment and just watch the internet. Yes. And that's, not that it's saying he doesn't work, he works probably 10 times harder now than he did he used to.
Starting point is 00:36:01 But it's like he just, he has different things. Here's a good example. I missed like a Stephen Strausberg blog during, you know, a couple weeks ago during the baseball playoffs. And he made it like a thing like, oh, Nate didn't blog it, so I'm going to blog it. And we could kind of joke about it because, like, we're in a good place now. But if that happened three years ago, and I didn't blog like, Steven-Scharlesburg thing, like I probably would just be like, you know, working at Olive Garden again right now. It was just like a crazy time where no matter what time anything happened, if you weren't on top of it, like your ass was done.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, I always, the best example or the best experience I've gotten from what the old days used to be like. I know where this is going. When Dave went through his breakup situation. Oh, yeah. And you could tell because all the time leading up to that, he had clearly been like a busy person in off hour times. and for like a month after that he was clearly just home not hang out with anybody else
Starting point is 00:36:51 and you could tell because he was fucking on it like he was on the blog he knew when you had blogged he knew when you hadn't he knew when you missed the story and it was like this sucks get him a girlfriend god damn when night blogged Dave when like when Dave's blogging
Starting point is 00:37:06 at night like that's when you know he has like nothing going on at that exact moment you're like oh shit I better like blog about Kurt Cousins real quick because like Dave's on top of the blog right Yeah, and I've done this horrifying setting of my phone where I get push notifications on all Dave's tweets. Smart. Just because his world's actually more important than the real world in terms of what we cover.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And so I can always tell, like, if some night Dave tweets start coming in that he's watching something, I need to get home and blog something. My favorite is the email to you guys. That's what I thought you were bringing up. That was I was going to bring that one up to. That one's really, really good. So this is, there's a couple in here. Let's start with there's really been like maybe four times ever that I've been yelled at by Dave Outside of like work hours for blogging or covering shit and so this is like my 16th month on the job now
Starting point is 00:37:57 You're just notching those something like that just really it's still like when you're raising a baby because it's so stressful that you don't measure it in a year and a half you say Right 18 weeks at any point it could die so I have to give you months instead of. Are you trying to pull up that email? Well, there's a couple. The first one I want to start with, this is the first time I ever did.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And it was like a little over a year ago now. And it was Nike Golf announced that they were discontinuing their equipment. So random. And it was at like 5.15 at night. And I had gotten a 5 o'clock haircut. So it was like the only time since I started at Barstool that I was like, actually not at my computer. And legitimately, we get a, we get an email from Dave, me and Trent.
Starting point is 00:38:49 A text, a text from Dave. That's the worst. At, like, 545. And the news had broken at 5. The news had broken at 5.Goff was discontinuing their equipment brand. We get a text 545 from Dave that was like. I can't remember exactly what it said. This was so early on of you and I knew each other that I didn't have your number yet.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And I didn't, I just saw, we were just putting pieces together. Yeah, I got a text from Dave. and I got a text to another random number and I just knew as soon I forget what he even said but it was something about like oh is this he doesn't he likes to do it sarcastically and backhanded he's like
Starting point is 00:39:20 oh is this Nike thing is this big news like that's like what he does to us yeah and then followed up with like I don't need two fucking golf guys if nobody's gonna blog this blah blah I remember thinking in my head like is Nike golf equipment that pick of a deal to Marshall like I remember just thinking like
Starting point is 00:39:37 I actually don't even know if I would have blogged that if I was just alone if you were sitting your computer. It was so random to me, but I was like, I was so mad at myself. I was like, what are you doing getting a haircut at 5 o'clock? You're such an idiot. And then a couple months later, the Rider Cup is the big one. That's the good one.
Starting point is 00:39:56 That really became, and I don't know if we want to, we'll try to pull it up. But it was. Here, you keep, and I think I probably got it somewhere. So this was, again, Trent was not, you were not in New York yet. No. And it was Sunday of the. the Ryder Cup. And it was Rory and Patrick Reed's match in singles, which is one of the most epic matches
Starting point is 00:40:19 in the history of the Ryder Cup. But it's still, it's early. They were like the first match to go off and there's 12 matches and they're only on like the seventh or eighth hole. So it's still really early in the Sunday singles Rider Cup action. Yes. So we're like live tweeting and stuff, but nobody had really blogged anything. And we get an email from Dave.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I wish I could pull it up here. That it said, oh, oh, I got to. It's loading right now. Okay. It's the way that he phrased it was the most passive aggressive, like, terrifying email to read from your boss ever. Fuck, that's not it either. But yeah, I remember him being like, oh, he did the same thing he did it with the Nike news. It was like, oh, is anything big going on right now?
Starting point is 00:40:57 And then a couple spaces down, he said, get your fucking head out of your asses. Yep. And all caps, with a lot of exclamation points. It's literally so that it got to get your heads out of your fucking asses in all caps. And Trent and out are just like, Jesus Christ. Very scary. So, I mean, it's just one of those things where. you don't, he's also
Starting point is 00:41:13 unpredictable, you still know what he's going to care about. It's interesting. Obviously, yes, but. It's interesting working for him because he lets you have so much freedom, but like the second that you screw up, like you feel like such a piece of shit. Totally. It's just like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah, you feel like you've been taking advantage of the freedom, which like you might not have, but you still, you're like. Francis, what's your relationship with him? Because you said, you don't have that type of. When people come up, when people know who I am, one of the most common questions I get is, what's it like working with Dave is he a huge dick.
Starting point is 00:41:43 What's he like in real life? And I'm so nervous that it's one of Dave's minions that he is sent out to test the waters that immediately be like, no, he's the greatest guy ever. He's really like a father figure to me. I really love him. And then they're all like, oh, okay, and they walk away. And that's how like nervous we are. But no, I mean, my, I like my relationship with Dave.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Look, it all traces back to the fact that we have this opportunity. that he created where we walked into a table that was set for 6 million people with 6 million people and we get to have first picking of the feast and as someone who like was doing
Starting point is 00:42:30 shitty bar shows in comedy I mean yeah dude have you seen my audiences lately I mean I'm not even I don't oh wait quick plug New York comedy?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Well, I'm headlining at the New York Comedy Festival. It's the public hotel on November 9th. It's going to be cool show. That's huge. Yeah. But, I mean, yeah, like, listen, I'm humble enough to know that, but for the five years leading up to Barstall, nobody gave a fuck about my comedy. You know, I was lucky to get seven friends to come to a show. And a lot of my shows were, you know, 12 people in a bar, alcoholics there because they had a free drink special or something like that.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah. Nobody listening. And now, you know, you know. know people show up so it's it's pretty cool yeah i always say this about dave to people too is that you know like when people like oh is he a dick well i think he's only really a dick in like the sense that any boss is kind of like a hard ass yeah right that's what bosses no i i actually i actually like dave quite a bit and whenever we go on trips or something and you if people go out to like a bar dave's actually like the nicest guy there is yeah but in terms of like a boss
Starting point is 00:43:36 depends on which ways bets are going yeah that's true but we're always going to tell the stories of like, oh, what's he like? And we're always going to tell office kind of anecdotes because they're funnier and all that. But actually, when you go out to a bar, like, everybody that comes up to him, like, can I get a picture? He's always super nice with people. Yeah. I actually have a blast.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Everybody go out because he's actually a really funny, like, normal guy. But we always tell the stories if, like, a boss, he's going to crack the whip a little. That does what a boss should do a little bit. Right. It's not as entertaining to tell. Exactly. It's not as entertaining to tell. Like, oh, yeah, Dave paid for dinner.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, people don't like that. Yeah. Dave paid for dinner. We actually had a really funny story time. Exactly. It was great. Nobody gives a fuck about that. That doesn't move the needle.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I had one more thing, which was that when I opened for Pat McAfee at in Indianapolis, in Indiana. Six thousand people. Six thousand people. Dave came with, you know, Frankie and Zah and Pat. They had flown in from Iowa City. Yeah, from Iowa. Right. You were there too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Oh, that was the silent show. Yeah, we did a show for deaf people. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. So they get there and, you know, Dave's been drinking and everyone's pretty tired, you know, from doing the show all day. and I don't I don't I can't say up to that point that I really knew Dave all that well we hadn't had too many conversations right and I go out and I do my set David never seen me do stand-up before for 6,000 people I did pretty well and I came off stage and he gave he was the first person to give me a hug and he said I'm proud of you and that meant way more to me than performing for 6,000 people do you know what that means? more to me then. It was so much more
Starting point is 00:45:10 bad. I'm about to like I'm about to cry. I don't know. I didn't know Dave gave hugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 What is that? I want a fucking hug. We all just want hugs. Next time Dave's giving out hugs, call us. We'll fly down there. I remember.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I'm getting a hug the next time you walks into this fucking office, you're out of your mind. The best I've gotten and this is sad that we can all just remember our Dave moments is that when you and I did the video
Starting point is 00:45:34 with Paige and we did we did an app only. Did very well. and he came out afterwards. He gave thumbs up. And I was like, that's the biggest compliment I'll ever do. I'll never forget because I was not at the office at this moment. And it meant so much to Trent and I that Trent texted me that Dave gave him a thumbs up about the appellate.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And I was like in tears of my apartment. I was like, let's go, Riggs-y. Yeah. That's rare. It's tough to get. Because he is the type of boss that won't say, he won't give a lot of compliments, which means you're doing well. Like silence means. means very good things.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yep. And email means very bad things. And then a thumbs up means like my job safe for another month. A hug means like. A hug. I don't know. Are you in the will? It's entirely possible that I've just made this up in my brain.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Out of trauma. It might have been a handjad. It was what I think it was like a dapp up, you know, like. Him, you said he hugged you and said, I'm proud of it. I will. I think, was that just your dad? Was your dad there? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I don't know. Honestly. No, it was one of the one of the like Dap-Up hugs. That's what I meant. Still. Still, that's still nice. The first contact we ever really had. Yeah, that's really.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I remember because my, the first video I ever did was I went to London last summer. And I didn't know anybody. I knew nobody at bars until I'd never really met anybody. I had met Keith and Dave. That was it. And like two weeks after I got hired and they were like moved to New York. I pitched this idea to Dave to go to London. He was like, great.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Go save all your receipts. Send me a number. and we'll write you a check for whatever it costs. I'm going to send you a camera guy. Camera guy was Gaz. We're like, cool. Gas. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Met Gaz at the gate, flew to London, filmed for two days, flew back, put the video out, literally never heard a word from date, like not one word. And so I took, I didn't know. I was just like, you didn't know that's a good thing yet.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Okay. And I was like weird. And then we got to the office two months later, we all moved to New York. He was like, why aren't you doing more videos? And I was like, I mean, I did a video you didn't say a word about it.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I didn't know. And he just literally ignored me and was like, you can't be that lazy. You got to do more videos. And I was just like, okay. But you're right. Silence is like, he is a strange management style.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah, if you don't know what it is, it can be very confusing. I also say, you don't always know what he's going to like. No. Like there are things that could do really well with the audience that he won't like. And then things that like just bomb for everyone else where he loves them.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. That, I remember the video I did where I wrote it for Smitty. and Zah and Vince Wilfork because he had come up to me and he's like, very good video. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:48:10 He said, Vince Wilfork's coming to the office. Is there any chance you could write something for him like the George Brett sketch? I said, yeah, sure, I'll give it a shot. And I just wrote that thing
Starting point is 00:48:18 where it was pretty simple. Zah just gets angry and turns into the Hulk as Vince Wilfork. And Dave, and the video didn't do very well on the internet. I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:30 it didn't, not that many people watched it, you know, and I don't know if the comments were all that effusive. But the next day, Dave came in and he was like, great video. I thought it was even better than George Brett. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Really? I didn't. It kind of was low hanging fruit. I mean, the concept was so simple. It's so funny that we can all remember that. I remember we did the Blizzard golf. Yeah. And he the next day gave us a compliment on the radio.
Starting point is 00:48:57 He did? Yeah. You guys were all over with that. You were in like New York Daily News. And then he took his credit for motivating us. Right. To not do sawgrass type stuff, but instead to do 4 a.m. We're forever in a printed edition of Time magazine.
Starting point is 00:49:14 But he also took credit for getting a purple heart by hiring chapsed. So it could be worse. This is what we're dealing with. All right, we're going to get into another golf headline, which was, this is going to be real quick. So they're golfing in China. I have wrote in the blog that, you know, we don't really care that much when they're golfing in China in late October. Sure. There's other stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But Justin Rose overcame an eight-shot deficit to beat DJ. DJ had a six-shot league going into Sunday and didn't win. Yeah, this was one of those deals where you go to bed and they're like, all right, DJ is going to, you know... Over. Yeah, it's over. He's going to coast to a victory. And then you wake up and Justin Rose has got the trophies kissing it. I legitimately, I thought, so I, for whatever reason, I get like a good amount of...
Starting point is 00:50:00 Whenever Justin Rose posts something on Instagram, it, like, pops to the top for me all the time. So I just saw on Instagram of Justin Rose with the trophy. And I was like, oh, I wonder where he was playing this week because there's no fucking way he won the HSBC over in China in Shanghai. And sure enough, he did. Eight shot, he was eight shots back going on Sunday. That's the third largest comeback in the history of the tour. What did DJ shoot?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Like, a 75? 77. 77. And Rosie shot a 67. So I'm a little worried about DJ. You are? Do you think he's going to get burnt out? He's got to take a break here pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And I don't know, it might be something, I mean, do they go over there because it's almost like free money in a way? Yes, it's exactly. So it's like. So even if he shoots like a 75, you still cash in like a, what, 500K? Oh, the money is. He's also in the realm where he, I don't think he gives a shit about the money too much. I mean, he's got so much of it. 500K is 500K.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Now, they do do, like, so it's a, it's a, I think 78. So it's like a 78 player field and everybody gets paid. There's one guy who played his Friday or Thursday Friday round and then just missed his tea time on. Saturday, he still made 43K. Yeah, so. Just literally with truth. In the off season, your sponsor flies you over there. You're probably staying really nice hotels.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So if you don't think DJ's doing it for the money, what do you think he's doing it for? I'm not saying, I'm not saying he's not doing it for. I'm saying that like when he gets inside the top five, he's not going like, okay, I'm not going to win, but let's sure up a second because it's worth X. Okay. I mean, he's just trying to win once he, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Whereas these other guys, like we had an Ian Poulter situation at Sawgrass where he legitimately
Starting point is 00:51:33 he was playing for second place, but that actually made sense because he was in a situation where he's trying to retain his card. Right. People were shitting on him for it, but actually a lot of people were like it made sense, and it did work out for him. He ended up keeping his card and all that. To, he was playing for second, not first? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:48 What's, how is it possible that it would be better to finish in second than first? It's, it's that. It's risky. The last three holes at sawgrass where there's water everywhere. Instead of going for it, he was playing super conservatively. It is for a situation of like, okay, I'm two shots past. from the first place guy, but I'm one shot ahead of the second place guy. I get it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Okay. Right. That makes it. And so again, that's, whereas I don't think DJ would ever do that. You just take as low variance line as possible. Correct. That's a poker net right there. Little variance action.
Starting point is 00:52:16 So smart. Little variance talk. We also had our guy, John Daly collapsed. Not good. Knee injury. Knee injury. This was a hard, this is an unexpected, disturbing video to watch. He looked like he got carried off like he was a football player just towards
Starting point is 00:52:32 ACL. Like they had to get a guy on either side of him and like walk him off the course. And one of those when, who was it for, was it the, one of the Eagles linemen the other day? He was like this 35-year-old legend when he busted his knee for the year. And everyone's like crying. That's kind of what it felt like. Yeah. When Aaron Poll and John Dealey, it was like, everyone was in tears.
Starting point is 00:52:52 He was like in contention. But I love my guy, JD. But I mean, he's not going to have the greatest longevity of all. I have. And it's sad, I hope, T's and P's at J.D. It's a funny visual to see a guy getting carted off of, like, a golf course. Yeah. I mean, every injury in golf is somewhat funny because they're all non-contact injuries.
Starting point is 00:53:16 You know what I mean? Yeah, and if you go back and watch this JD Club, they literally bring out the cart, like, it's a football field, and they have guys, like, towing him, and they put him in the car and they drive away. It's not funny, but it's very funny. I will say all the ones, too, when Tigers WD'd with an injury, it is the same. same type of like somber but hilarious moment where he like he like really gingerly struts over to the cart path yeah they put him in a cart
Starting point is 00:53:38 the cart drives into like an ambulance and then the ambulance like scurries away for the property and it's like this is fucking golf it's chaos because it's golf and nobody knows what to do yeah like they just they don't know how to react to it it's one thing too when tiger gets injured because he's swinging so hard he's like so muscular and you're like that's an athletic injury when john daly gets injured just collapses It's because he's had chocolate ice cream for breakfast for the last seven years. Four cartons of cigarettes every day.
Starting point is 00:54:04 His bones are just made of cholesterol at that point. JD. We do have to plug our shirts. Oh, yeah. Make Sunday's great again. Make Sunday's great again. You've got to go to barsstoolsports.com slash four. Barstoolsports.com slash F-O-R-E.
Starting point is 00:54:21 We got the shirts in there. They're going to be flying off the shelves. I mean, he's legitimately back at this point. Yeah. Now he's committed to the hero, which is exactly what he did last year. So, yeah, this is actually happening again. Shout out to Usper for predicting this months ago. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:34 This is what he does. This is his return trajectory. You got a hot take on time. I have a question. I have a question. He played it last year. Yes. He's just one that he dropped out of it.
Starting point is 00:54:42 No. So, he finished it. So let me give you a little, let me break this down for you. Please refresh. So this is an 18-man field. A typical tour event, I believe, is 156. Yes. This is an 18-man field.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's in the Bahamas. It's his event. Oh, okay. And he plays this. You're guaranteed. four rounds. It's kind of a money grab. The guys go down there. There's a purse. The Hero World Challenge, this hero company
Starting point is 00:55:03 is the title sponsor. They pay a bunch of money. The purse is guaranteed. They're all going to make money. They go down there and play, et cetera, et cetera. So Tiger goes, there's not that many fans, because it's in the Bahamas. He's guaranteed four rounds so he can kind of ease his way through it. And then he gets another, probably month and a half off before he will most
Starting point is 00:55:21 likely play the farmer's insurance. I think that's still what it's called out at Torrey Pines. Do you think it's a big deal that he feels he's healthy enough to play four rounds. Yes. Yes, huge. That sounds like a huge deal, right? Huge deal.
Starting point is 00:55:35 It's also becoming clear that Tiger was doing what Tiger does a month ago and totally bullshitting us with all of this like, yeah, there's no guarantee that I'm ever going to play again. Literally, like, a month later, he's got a nice swing and he's ready to go. A little bit of bullshit there, but that's kind of with the Tiger. Keep the bar low. And then surprise people when you actually are going to play. That's like a presidential debate strategy. What do you think the odds are that he makes it through all four rounds?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Oh, high, but the, the, once you start getting into, like, that he makes it through all of the starts he's planning to make, you know, next spring, then, like, probably not that high, which is sad. I can't wait to make my, to make a least he finish in the top 20. I did, however. That's going to be great. I do have to say this. So, I played Marion on Saturday. And it's like two-hour train there, two-hour train back. And on the train there, I got a little tiger back fusion.
Starting point is 00:56:26 surgery lesson from my buddy who was telling me how this back surgery is way different than the other back surgeries he's had and that the fusion is like this super risky but diabolical and like life-changing
Starting point is 00:56:42 back surgery that if executed successfully it in theory and has for many guys solved their back issues in perpetuity. That would be amazing. Wow. And so I'm pretty excited. I don't want to get too
Starting point is 00:56:57 into the science of it. Yeah, I thought you're going to. Because I don't know if I can regurgitate it the way that my buddy gave it to me but you know, there's your vertebrae and your spine and your discs and the disc kind of like float in between and are supposed to be
Starting point is 00:57:11 I guess kind of like flexible but then when you have issues your disc kind of starts to like leak and then interact with your spine which is kind of what was happening with Tiger which is unbelievably painful and basically paralyzes you. good, yeah. And they kind of fix, they have different surgeries where they, like, fix the discs and all that.
Starting point is 00:57:29 But they can obviously become dislodged and start leaking and stuff like that. And so the fusion will take, like, two or three or four discs and actually fuse them all together with the vertebrae and the spine. And if successful, that fusion is, like, permanent. And nothing comes in or out and you're good to go. That's apparently the surgery that Eldrick can. Wow. Let's just get one more big run from him, you know, and then we can. and all just be like, yep, told you so,
Starting point is 00:57:56 and then everybody goes home happy. If he, at this point, if he won another major, it would be the biggest thing in history of sports. It would be the most amazing thing. Yeah, it would be the biggest, yeah, be the biggest story in the world. If he won the Masters, it would be the greatest, like, sports on Twitter ever, yeah. It would be fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And I'm, at this point, I'm now, I'm now more excited about the prospect of rubbing it in the faces of people who say he can a fucking Big Cat. I want that for you guys so bad. Big Cat came at me again. It was like Friday. first time I had seen him since the Barstool Van Talk thing and all that. And I was like, you know, what's up, man? Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And then he saw a tweet of mine about Tiger. And he just goes, oh, Riggs, don't tell me you're doing it again. I mean, I was like, I was dead serious. Yeah, he's back. It's the fusion. The list of people. You have the list? Yeah, the list of people to relentlessly mock when Tiger wins another major.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Uncle Chaps, anyone who didn't buy a make sonny's great against shirt. Big Cat, the Dan Katz one. Tech guy Pete, who is now all business, Pete. Kevin Francis Clancy, the Jupiter Police, and fake news daily mail. The Jews of Jupiter Police. Yeah, that's actually, that's a good list. That's a good list. We might have to add a couple more people to that list.
Starting point is 00:59:02 We'll get there. Is Dave's on there? I don't know. I don't know. I forget how he feels about Tiger. He and I think, actually, I think it might have been Kevin. I think Kevin and Dan. He's on there.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh, Kevin is on there. Okay, yeah, because they double-team me on a rundown. So fuck those guys. You hate to be double-team like that. That's true. Very true. Hey, can I tell a quick golf joke or no? Yeah, all right, let's go out.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Two seconds. So this isn't like one of your, like, you've read this on the internet. This is a joke I wrote the other day, so I don't know if this is funny at all. I got it. Why did the golfer wear two pairs of pants? Why? In case you got a hole in one. Pretty good?
Starting point is 00:59:38 All right. Try to top that bitch. I'm going to try. So I was on my way to play golf on Saturday, and I was on the subway, and it was early in the morning, and it was early in the morning. And across me on the subway was this nice young woman with two young children. And one of the children had a coloring book in his hand, and he was coloring quietly. You don't see coloring books enough. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And then the other one, her daughter, your young daughter, she was sort of scratching her head and comforting her. And I thought, as I was on my way to golf, I thought, you know, I want that in my life. life that scene i really do want that that is so lovely and so nice i would really love to have a wife look after the kids while i go play golf pretty good you're going to go right at the end it gets you i think that one is he just telling a fucking brutal story right now you got a singer you got to make a meal out of it the scene in order to set up the punch have you have you done that one on stage No, I just, it happened on Saturday. I wrote it on the joke on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Okay. Very good. All right. Well, we, uh, we decided to have a couple of the guys, a couple of our other buddies. Come on, shoot the shit, have a little chat. A lot of, we covered a lot of ground in here. We talked about relationships with Dave, our relationships with golf, a couple headlines, the hoopla.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Uh, if you are just a four play listener and you don't follow all the barstool guys, uh, we've got at Francis Barstool on Twitter. We got at barstool Nate who be careful if you're going to tweet out. It'll be very, very, very, very careful. I have racist tweets in your past. Clean up your Twitter history. I don't care anymore. That's just not true.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I just don't care. I really doubt that. I care about myself and nobody else. Guys, we appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having us. Shooting the shit with us. I appreciate it for play and buy a shirt or I hate you and I hope you die. And to finish, here's what we do.
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