Fore Play - ’Tis The Handicap Police Season, ft. Chris Lane

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

Country music star Chris Lane (55:03) joins the show telling fun golf stories and detailing a Pinehurst buddies trip which included the likes of Jake Owen, Shay Mooney, Hardy and more. Before Chris, the crew reacts to The Match III, to Phil & Charles dominating Peyton & Steph, and to the handicap police coming out for blood over Steph Curry’s +1 handicap!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's December 1st. The show's coming out on December 1st. Crazy how fast and slow, I guess, this year has gone. I was talking about that with my parents a couple weeks ago, but it's just been a weird year, obviously with everything going on, with COVID, with the pandemic, with sports being paused, and then coming back. And it's just, I don't know, I can't believe it's December already, but it is.

It's like holiday Christmas season. The next thing you know, it'll be first in the year. PGA Tour will be really starting back up again. And we'll be off and running. We got Chris Lane on this show. He was on the trip that's been brought up many times, the Pider's trip with Jake Owen and Hardy and Shay Mooney in that entire crew. So we get into, we can do a lot of golf with him.

We get into a lot of songwriting, which Frankie's our little musical bird on this show. So he always likes to get into that aspect of the entire thing, which is fascinating. I think everybody likes music. So we're going to chat a little golf. We got some headlines to get into. We got this Phil, Charles Barkley, victory to get into. We've got some from the gallery questions.

And then we're going to hit you with Chris Lane. As always, we are produced by and edited by Jake Bass and Brendan Jones. So big thanks to those guys. They do all our behind the scenes work. And a huge thanks to everybody that's been buying stuff and bought stuff from Black Friday through Cyber Monday. Huge for us. It's, as Dave likes to say, Portnoy likes to say. And that's what keeps the lights on, no matter what we do.

we can always just sling merch. He's been doing it since like 2005, just slinging t-shirt, slinging hoodies, slinging merch left and right. And no matter what happens, no matter what we say, no matter what any advertisers may or may not do,

which our advertisers have always been awesome. But we're not beholden to anybody else except for the fans when we sell merch. So you guys buying that stuff supports us, allows us to do whatever the hell we want. So big thanks to everybody again, who bought stuff over the weekend at 20% off. We very much appreciate it.

And little merch updates the Barstle Golf on real hoodies, which a lot of people are asking about. We just order a ton of those, and then whenever they just arrive, we put them on sale. So it's, you know, if they were ready for Black Friday, they would have been out. If they're ready in a week, they'll be out. It's not like we're hoarding them. It's not like we don't want to make money off of them. We legit just order as many as humanly possible, and as soon as they arrive, we put them on sale.

So look out for updates on our social accounts, on the podcast, about when those will be ready again. And the same goes for the champion Barstool Golf Hoodies. those were big sellers. Tred Daddy's got his black one on right now. Is that blue? Is that black? This is the black one. I mean,

it's no secret that I'm a fan of black hoodies and sweatshirts. Like, that's what I wear every single day. So when we started putting this out, I could not have pushed it harder. And I'm glad that we sold out. I know we're probably going to re-up. I don't know what day.

I don't know when. The timeline's always fucked up with things like this. But this is so comfortable. The unreal ones are obviously very comfortable. But this is more my speed, the champion hoodies, where I can just put it on. I can lay on the couch all day.

I can be fucking lazy. I love these things. They're fucking great. They're really good. And I've been, you know, I mean from Pinehurst to I was out in the snow with my parents in Boulder like two months ago to Scots. Like that hoodie, just the champion hoodie just plays. It plays all the time.

So that's another one that's sold out in a bunch of different colors. We're trying to restock them as soon as possible, I think in a week or so, maybe a couple days. We're going to be able to put them back on sale. But it's up to champion if we can like guarantee Christmas delivery or not. So look, we're trying, like I said, whenever we get stuff in, we just put it on sale and hope, you know, that you guys buy it and it gets to you as quickly as possible. We are, this isn't a retail podcast. This is just a golf podcast.

So we're trying to do as much as we possibly can. But thank you again for the support. Like I said, it's a very direct way that people can support us. It pretty much allows us to do whatever the fuck we want when you guys buy our merch because then, you know, we can keep the lights on through our own direct self-sufficient support system. So very much appreciate it. Okay, like I said, we got much to get into a couple other housekeeping items, the travel show. So you might remember that the travel show exists. We did North Carolina where we had Pinehurst, we had Tobacco Road.

Those were incredibly well received. E-bugs been grinding on those. Frankie's been sending him just mass texts like ex-girlfriend type texts all day, every day about details, how we wanted edited, how we wanted to produce. Then we hit a bunch of four-man scrambles. Those are long edits. Those take forever. Well, guess what? The travel show is now back. Tonight, Tuesday, the next episode will be available. It's Peninsula Kingswood.

It's the scene of Trent's putt, the famous putt, the 130 or 50-foot putt, whatever it was, or Trent Daddy canned it. This is that full episode, really, really good match between Trent Daddy and myself. We've been going back over the last few weeks and filming confessionals where we kind of revisit the entire thing. that was a year ago. So revisiting those matches, the ups and downs, the roller coaster, and then also hearing like the other side and seeing some clips from the other side where they just like talk shit to the camera that we didn't see is very funny. So the travel shows back.

We're going to release an episode every week all the way up until Christmas week. So check out our YouTube channel or Play Golf on YouTube. I feel like I'm just hawking a million things right now, but, you know, we're trying to give people. We're getting an information. We got a lot of things going up. We're trying to give the people something. There's no pro golf right now really. I mean, they're back this week in Mexico, but, you know, most people around the country now, it's starting to wind down.

Golf's starting to wind down. You're getting chilly. It's getting cold. So we're hitting you with stuff that you can view that you can buy and that you can check out. So you're welcome. And then the, I want to say the Barcelona Sports Book. So I was able to, I think it's the only one in the country right now, but obviously we were bought out by Penn National Gaming at the beginning of the year. Big part of that was they own a ton of casinos and getting sports books, physical basketball sports books,

into their casinos. Well, the one at Black Hawk, which is in Colorado, maybe an hour or so from Denver, the Ameristar Black Hawk location. They have a Barstool Sportsbook. I was in there on Friday night, and it is awesome. We got our Forplay logo up there. It's very classy.

They got some exposed indoor brick, which I'm a big fan of. That's a huge New York City hit. Anybody that's ever looked at an apartment in New York City knows that. But it was cool, man. I got the kiosk where you can just go right up to the kiosk. It's all touch screen. You just hit something. You're watching the TV right in front of your face.

And then, you know, you touch your show. Having the sports book, very cool. Lots of us have been into a sports book before, but having it all be Barstool branded and kind of catered towards stooleys and barstool fans. It was sweet. And I highly recommend it. I know I think we're going to open up a bunch more around the country.

But fellas, we got our own logo in a sports book. It's pretty sweet, which is pretty remarkable. And it does look super classy. It's a really cool place. I heard that casino is outrageous out in Colorado. So I'm really looking forward to going out there. seeing other ones across the country starting to open up. I think we're just going to take over. I'm pretty sure Barstall is just going to be the, like, the top of the line, top class

sports book when it's all said and done. So for anyone getting it on the ground floor, you can go there right now while it's at one of however many hundreds of thousands, I think, that we're going to end up having. That's probably too high of a number. I don't know if anyone has hundreds of thousands of sports books, but if anyone can do it. This is not your specialty is. There would be a lot of sports books. So many. That's such a high number. That was the most important. informative maybe seven minutes of for play podcasting the history of our show i mean if you're not hitting the back 15 to 30 second button on one year listening to a podcast right now to try to understand whatever rigs just said and then what frank you just shared then you have amazing brain power you got to

take notes like you literally need a notepad for that first five minutes of the show you got it like all right right hit me hit me this what's going on like i put it on your calendar i might send fucking calendar invites to people for all the information that we just dropped but you got to do it's a lot There's a lot going on, man. Like this fucking, we went to Australia a year ago. We're just trying to get these videos off our fucking chess at this point. They're so good. These videos are so good.

And we just like, every week that's come up, they've had something to do. Like, there's always been something to edit. Like, I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I don't think any podcast in the world puts as many videos. Legitimate videos, like you have to fucking process them. You have to edit them. You have to upload them. You have to put a caption on it.

I don't know that they put actual videos. as much as for play does. It's crazy how many videos go out. I mean, Rick puts out one every single day. We're putting out travel series. We're putting out the Barso Classic recaps. It's nonstop behind the greens. And it's just, we always want to keep doing more.

So what's crazy to me is we are busier than ever with video editing. Like our editors are crazy. And we haven't even come up to, we have so much stuff coming up in 2021 that like this fucking travel series is coming out is going to be so good. But I can't even, like, we have. so much coming up in 2021 that people don't know about. The videos that are going to be coming out are going to blow your mind, but we just have to get to them.

Like we have to first watch the Australia thing that we got. We did a year ago. This is like, this is like a treat. Like I forgot we went there and we're just posting it a year later. It's a little outrageousness. But we just get to now experience that again as viewers. I forgot everything about Australia.

So now I just get to watch it. It's like finding a $20 bill in your pocket or something. It's like, dude, I didn't, oh, that's there. Like, we have four more videos from Australia with drone footage, kangaroos, intense back and forth. Like, we, dude, we did like a whole 15-minute belly laugh going back and forth, dying over what happened on the 18th Green at Barnboogel Lost Farm in that match on the podcast. That was a year ago.

So people were like, I can't wait to see this. Well, like you said, Frank, like we got a small team. We just got Jake and Bug and Frankie's trying to do more than production. now as well and we got four man scrabbles that have come out we put multiple videos out every single week so the point is we're finally able to um get these things out to you and then from there i mean we have videos sitting on our hard drives right now that people are not going to believe that we actually i need them to put them on more hard drives because if something happens to that one hard drive like i want that video i want the videos that we have replicated amongst many hard drives and then put around like

Voldemort did with his whore cruxes and hide them just in case. You can't kill us if you kill one. You got to kill all seven of them. So if they maybe get to the first hard drive, sorry, we have six more that's going to keep us going. Also

real quick about, because I know we've got to get into other stuff, about Australia. We played these Aussies in one of the episodes. It was me and Lurch and then it was Riggs and Trent behind us and it was basically two matches going on at the time. I have no idea how they're editing that because we all play two different holes,

whatever, it was a lot. Then I've kept in touch with one of the guys, this guy Charles, he messages me all the time. And he sent a picture of him with some kangaroos yesterday, the other day, on Thursday on Thanksgiving. And he goes, hey, mate, Merch finally made it out here just fine. Happy Thanksgiving, Frankie. Hope you are all staying safe out there. And it's him with a bunch of kangaroos on the fairway. It was nuts. So I wrote, happy Thanksgiving, pal, looks good on you. Look at those ruse. And then I responded. And then I said, hey, man, by the way, our video should be coming out within the next two weeks.

Two weeks, it's really good stuff. And then I responded again. I three messaged him. And I said, ha, ha. I don't know why I said, happy Thanksgiving to you. You're Australian and you don't celebrate Thanksgiving. And I'm not going to take it back. He said, I'll take a happy Thanksgiving anywhere, anytime, mate.

That's a great on the video, video looking forward to it, mate. What a fucking. What a fucking message threat. It's really, it's nice to know, Frankie, that even in private, in your personal conversations with other humans, that you dig yourself into holes unnecessarily. And then, yeah, I just, you know. Can't say happy Thanksgiving to an Australian. They couldn't be further away from celebrating Thanksgiving. What were you closer doing?

Sending a fourth message or jumping off? Like, going in for a fourth is just, you can't. I'm surprised you went in for a third. third, but I know how your mind runs downhill, but you had to be thinking, if I going for a fourth year, I don't know, is, was a tough third message. I'm laughing at myself. He's not even responding. He was sleeping at the time. Like, it was a fucking 16 hour difference, whatever it is. So yeah, it was, um, how long are to take that merch to get to Australia? Probably three years. Like, I just picture it floating in the water, like sort of making its way.

Australia and then one day just watches ashore. They have to pick up their merch like something in Castaway where they have to go on top of the highest hill and look around with binoculars and see something floating and like fly out there and fucking swim out there and just grab the FedExbox. The whole country has to do that. It's crazy.

The merch game is wild. I mean, sometimes I'll hit up our merch team and be like, hey, what's going on with the latest shipment from the hoodies? We checked it and like the boat's supposed to arrive on the West Coast in a couple days. And I'm like, our hoodies are just on a boat from, you know, Asia to just California. Like, yeah, no, it's kind of like docking California soon. That's where our hoodies are?

So when people are tweeting at it, it's like, where the fuck are those who unreal? I'm like, they're on a boat, actually. On a boat. And now they'll be here when they're here. So it's a crazy game. But anyways, okay, a bunch of videos are coming out. Our travel show every Tuesday for the next week, or I'm sorry, for the next month, we will have a new episode from the travel show.

We have four episodes in there. We play locals. We have Barnbougal. We're on the cliffs. We're on the dunes of Tasmanians, all kinds of cool shit. We have the architects and the local Australians narrating this series. So we got the architects of some of the golf courses. We got some of the guys who restored the golf courses.

We show restorations at some of the courses and the differences between the ones we play. It's a very, very well done. video series. It's our version of it. We show you whole one through 18. So if you ever go to Australia, it's the number one preview video to watch. So aside from watching a bunch of fucking idiots play it, you watch it just to see whole one through 18, the differences that it used to be and the beauty of everything. It's drone shots. It's all the great shots. I find it to be the best. Someone said to me, like they watched the Tobacco Road one like 20 times before they went to play Tobacco Road because you actually get a feel for what the greens do. Like if you're going to

go play it, you actually need to watch it because you see all 18 holes. And you watch like the way our balls roll off the greens and stuff. You can actually like see like you can prepare for your round by watching a barcel travel series. Yeah, there is, uh, there is some cool, um, before and after drone footage from this that I actually don't, I don't know how we ended up getting that and how that's a real thing because the drone shot that we took completely unknowing of what other footage was out there are like the same angle and the same speed and the same height in the sky as a lot of the before footage on some of these holes because peninsula kingswood which is our next episode which is out tonight at 8 p.m. on four play golf on youtube that that course was completely renovated in

some holes they just made a little cooler and nicer and cleaner and some holes are completely different so there's a handful of before and after shots that again you know it almost reminds me of when my brother got his hole in one at Bandon Dunes, Pacific Dunes, the 10th hole, and, you know, he obviously hits. I took a couple photos, but we didn't have any actual footage. And then he finds out, like, a month later, when he's just uploading it to his computer, that they were live photos. And then there's just video of him hitting.

Like, that's not. I didn't actually, nobody took that footage. Like, the golf gods just invented that later so that we could have it. That's kind of how I felt about when I looked at the footage when, you know, Bugs sent us that draft from Pencilo Kings. I was like, the fact that this just exists, that's just a nice move by the golf gods. That shouldn't exist. So it's really, really cool.

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Support us. We appreciate it. Okay. The match. We had the match three. I think it was Champions for Change. Great, great cause. And I thought another really good product.

It was Friday. It was Black Friday. We were busy Hawking Merch. Dave was on a rampage, so we were very busy hawk and merch, making sure we're getting yelled at. So I didn't see every single shot. But overall, again, I thought it was very cool. I thought I think that Dave mostly figured these made-for-TV things out,

which is that kind of less announcing is more. focus on the audio from the guys. They've got the AirPod thing figured out now where it's not overly intrusive on the guys playing because we had like Mike packs were falling out of people and Brady hold that shot down in Florida earlier this year and like his mic pack is swinging around on a wire. Well, now they just got the AirPods.

That seems to work. Pretty good banter. There's a lot to get into from it. I think the main takeaway that we've been talking about for a long time, The handicapped police were out in full force going after Step Curry. He plays as a plus one handicap. And the handicapped police are the worst people in the fucking world. They just don't comprehend that by our very nature, amateur golfers are inconsistent.

That is literally what we do. We were just consistently solid at golf. We would just be professional golfers or we would be better. Anyone who is an amateur is going to be very inconsistent. Your handicap is not like how you typically play. Your handicap index is your potential. That is like when you play a really solid round of golf, what can you shoot? He's a plus one handicap.

Steph Curry played in a, he's played in multiple web.com, I guess, Corn Ferry Tour events. He's posted a 71 in a web. com tour event before. He's also posted like an 86. Guess what? He's a fucking amateur golfer. So the handicapped police were out. Overall, I thought it was a great product.

We could break it down a lot more. But what did you fellow state? Yeah, I mean, I thought it was, I didn't know who was going to jump first. Yeah, no, yeah. Well, here, I got something to say. I just about like feel of the personality. I just got to say one thing. I had, I had Iowa played Nebraska on Black Friday, and then they also, then the basketball season has also started.

They're number five in the country. So it was a very busy day. I did catch a few of the highlights. But when Iowa plays Nebraska, it goes against my religion and every five of my being to not watch that game. So I had to watch that. I will won that game. And then right after that football game, the basketball game started. They also won that. Luca Garza scored 36 points in the first half. we may or may not win the national title this year. We are incredibly good. So I caught a couple highlights. What I will say is I think Charles Barkley is just great.

You put Charles Barkley in just about anything and you're going to get, like I remember thinking when the lineup for this came out, like obviously you're missing Tiger. That's a huge draw. But all you really need is shit talkers and guys who can bust balls. And Charles Barkley might be the number one guy in the world. Maybe also like Snoop Dogg if you watch the fights this weekend, which is also a crazy seen, but you basically just need guys with personalities. And Charles Barkley has one of the biggest personalities in the world.

Match him up with a guy like Phil Mickelson who also has a giant personality, and you're going to have a great product. So the fact that they have realized that's what you need, because if you're not going to get Tiger every time, which you're not going to, you have to supplement it with guys who can talk shit. And Charles Barkley is the perfect fit. And the highlights that I did see, he was great. He was hilarious.

And they ended up winning. But it was just, it was, that's what you need. and a thing like that is shit-talkers. Charles was moving and shaken. He was actually surprisingly smooth with his swing. I think everyone in the first hole was like, whoa, all right, big fella. Like, go on with the big self.

Like, he was moving. He was hitting good shots. Fillet points at him dialed in, like mentally, like playing smart shots. Obviously he's hit, he hit his horrible, horrible Charles Barkley-esque golf shots throughout the round. But, you know, I was surprised. I think everyone was like,

oh, I was waiting for that, like, crazy stop hitch. was fucking coming through iron shots he was hitting the ball decently well that some of the tracers were like funny they were like draws coming down in the middle so um but you know what i you know dave says that um that if he could like hire one person like right now with just like unlimited money i think he said it would be charles barclay because he's just like he has the juice like he just brings it all the time now like if it would work for barcel i don't know because like him being worth what he's being is like him on t-n-t and like on the show like if you just put him at barso is he

still Charles Barkley. But it goes to say that, like, Dave, and what he finds to be funny and valuable is everything that Charles Barkley is. Like, he's just a guy who can shoot the shit. And he has the type of, like, Genesee Croix? Is that the word I'm looking for? I don't know. Isn't Geneseequa, like, I don't know what?

Hmm. I think that translates. I do feel like that's, like, a clause that explains maybe that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm looking for like a little like he has like a little bit of a vibe to him. Is that not I think that kind of works. So like I don't, I can't finger on it. But I think like. Oh, okay.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think that worked then, right. Like he's got something that we can't pinpoint. Yeah. Okay. All right, Frankie. Keep going. Oh, it's like that pizza review video.

Did you hear that? I've heard that. It's like the what he says when he does the pizza. I do not know what. I do not know what. That's what it's translated as. So it's kind of like. Yeah, it's like we don't know what his vibe is, but we know he has the juice.

He brings the juice. He brings it. We can't pinpoint it, but he just fucking brings it. I love Charles. Also, them bringing in their buddies, like the TNT guys on certain shots to to chirp him was so fucking funny because like, and like Shaq was incredible, putting $100,000 down a charity on certain holes. Like he was, they, you could tell that they just didn't care that they were on TV and they

just wanted to get in Charles Barclay's head. And he was having none of it. So I thought it was very, very energetic. entertaining. I'm all for having guys that aren't the best golfers playing those things because I think it just brings just more entertainment as opposed to just like, like when Brady was playing poorly, that was the best part of that match when he was hitting it out of bounds. We were going crazy. Like Brady stinks. I'm better than Brady at golf. Like you like to chirp, you like to go crazy. So I don't need the four guys that are just going to hit it fucking fairway green tap in for

Bertie. I want the Charles Barclays. Give me like three Charles Barkleys and one pro. Yeah. So my only thing with that is knock out the pro. Like Phil is obviously gold so it's hard to knock him out. But like you can't have, as to Riggs's point, like, amateurs just don't shoot that well every round. So if you want it to maintain like the competitive nature, like you got to remove Phil because he's just too good for that group. Like I don't care if Seth's a plus one. It just, you're playing against Phil Mickelson. Like he's going to beat you at the game of golf. Yeah. I mean, on in an ideal world, I think you're probably right. Like I think that though that's the franchise, right?

Like Phil and Tiger are like, they literally created the match franchise. So that'd be like, oh, yeah, come up with a four play video, but like just remove the foreplay guy. It's like, well, no, like we're, we are that that's like our thing. That's what we do. So I think that's going to be tough. I think Phil, so one thing I was just going to add about Chuck is that he takes it too, right?

Like he gets fucking roasted all the time. And that makes him such a beloved figure that he just takes more shit than anybody. he never takes it personally, at least not publicly. He always just absorbs it and dishes it back in a lovable way. So that makes him so likable. It makes him so good in those environments. And it makes him, like it makes everyone else around him comfortable roasting him. And that just goes so far in kind of adding to the whole thing, right?

Where like people just aren't comfortable busting Tiger Woods as balls, right? Like except for maybe a couple people in the world, like JT. You can tell when JT's on those things. things like him and Tiger are best friends. He will roast Tiger publicly and it goes well. But anyone else that you bring in, even though they might be a funny guy that likes to chirp and bust balls, they're not going to bust Tiger Woods's balls on national television. It just doesn't, it's just not comfortable. So that worked out extremely well. Phil was on a mission. I thought Phil very, very clearly from the get-go was there to win. He was there to make a statement. And I think it makes

a lot of sense. Like Phil is the only guy who's a professional in the group. They had, you know, Tiger was not involved in this one. So it was up to Phil. to sort of carry it. And he saw an opportunity. And he said, I'm a professional. Like, you guys are maybe the best of what you do. But this is my game. He was coaching Charles through every single blade of grass on every shot. When they were, you know, four up, he wasn't kind of letting down a little bit and hoping the match will get closer so they could build the drama. Like they said, and Chuck had a great comment on like the eighth hole where he was like, hey, Zucker, I know you're watching. Like get those reruns ready. We're going to win, you know, four and three. And this. things going to be cut short and it was like that was exactly what happened so i thought it was it was um it was cool that phil very clearly wanted to fucking dust them because the biggest knock that you could get is you know you're you're now going to have the chirping and the personalities and all that but what you really need to have in order for it to kind of carry itself is people to care about it right like you can tell like step kerry and peymanning were rattled that they were playing like

shit like they were kind of quiet and they were missing puts and step curry starting like mutter under his breath and like i just don't fucking have it today you know like they're getting rattled and conversely like phil was step he was there to step on throats and he was there to win and he cared that they were winning holes he cared that like charles barclay hit shots under pressure when he wanted them to so all of that kind of mixed in for a for a friday kind of hit and giggle and a in a little entertainment i thought it was a home run um it's especially without having tiger woods like them able to carry that and be that interesting. I just thought it was a good product.

So I was overall, my grade was, you know, B plus A minus. I thought it was very solid. From a production standpoint, I thought it was really funny and interesting to watch, like the professional cameras, try and follow a ball striking like ours kind of. I mean, like we're not as bad as Chuck, but sometimes we are. Like I hit some horrible shots, like left and right. And it was funny to watch like these guys who were used to hitting, to following these balls going perfect ball fly around to the green like they were fucking scrambling to get those

fucking from the green onto the fairway shots like when he would hit one just dead left they would like fucking go crazy it was very very funny to watch them try and find Charles Barkley's swings and his balls um it reminded me like what our fucking what a production of us just playing a pGA door event would look like a lot of camera shaking and quick movements left and right as opposed to the very smooth put you to sleep pGA tour production. that's true it's probably cake the PJ tour weeks are probably cake for those camera guys they're like there's only a tiny window that these guys are going to hit in and then Charles Barclay or us they don't be very funny come on you got to let us play in a PJ tour event

because them trying to track our balls would be but it'd be worth it'd be worth it just for that because they'd be going fucking crazy yeah they uh look anytime that you get amateurs on television or on footage hitting shot is going to be jarring to the viewer because 99.999% of golf viewing that we do are the best people in the world who hit it better than anyone. And golf is such a, there's just a huge discrepancy between being good at golf and being anyone else. And like when you're anyone else, you hit fucking horrible shots. Like even the pros hit horrible shot.

There's times when the camera, they can't believe it because guys hit such bad shot. then you pan to people like us who hit bad shots all the time and it's going to be jarring to the viewer so mixing all that and phil was very funny at the commercial where they're pitching the golf course stone canyon and he says uh i like the course so much i bought it it was just such a like goober fill uh moment with like his slick back and his outfits and all and and there he was out there in his element you know he didn't he again didn't have tiger who's the only clear figure that has like done what Phil wants to do better than Phil, right? Like he's really the only person in the world that has,

if there's a goal and like a path and anyone could be the best at that path in the world, Phil is the best except for one person, which is Tiger Woods. And now you remove Tiger from that picture and you get a very cocky, very confident. This is my show now, Phil Nicholson. And that's sort of what he lives for. That's what he did when he stepped in the booth and just dominated Sir Nick Faldo at the PGA. it's the same kind of thing where he knows he's in his element and when you give somebody like still that much confidence,

he's just going to be relentless and he was. So again, overall, I thought it was really good and I know they're going to continue to do them and they raise a lot of money for a good cause, so it's kind of a win-win. Lurch, last week you accidentally said that Charles Barkley was a pro-bowler. After season, he could absolutely be a pro-buller.

That dude is a house. Standing next to Phil Mickelson, who is apparently now in the best shape of his life. I mean, he looks rail thin. And then you got Charles Barkley, who could absolutely, you know, he could be Aaron Donald, but he could just, he could have 15 sacks a year in the NFL, it looks like. He's just giant. He's a big boy.

There's definitely that, like, small forward, power forward position in the NBA could certainly translate over and play in the NFL. They're just big bodies, whether it's a tight end, D.N, outside linebacker type. They're just big bodies. Charles probably has left those positions, and he's more of just like a nose tackle in there mucking it up. But yeah, he is absolutely massive. He's a fucking tank. Like he's just big.

He's got a big old gut. He's way bigger than Phil. Phil is not small. Phil's a big person. Like I know we're saying he's in great shape, and he is, especially for him. But like, he's a pretty big presence when Phil walks and he's like larger than you would think Paul or whatever. And he was just getting dominated by Charles Barkley. So the whole thing, it just worked.

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I went to Scottsdale. I went to go see the Grand Canyon. I went to Antelope Canyon. Tell me about the Grand Canyon. Tell me about the Grand Canyon. seem like a guy who would love the Grand Canyon. I'm not shitting on the Grand Canyon because I think I would love to see it as well, but I think, but Frankie, I think you would be a Grand Canyon guy. Yeah, we didn't know where to go for like vacation. We saw

Scottsdale and like the fact that you can go there and then go take like, you can go take this thing where they pick you up. This guy in an escalade just picked us up and just drove us to the Grand Canyon and the fact that you can do that was pretty cool to me. I was just like, we're going to the Grand Canyon. It was, it's one of those just awe-inspiring places. where you just can't believe what you're seeing. Like you're just like, I, to me, I was just like, I didn't believe it. I was like, there's no way. There's no way what I'm looking at.

I've heard the Grand Canyon like blows you away. Like everybody, the reviews are, you know, there's certain things that you see that you're kind of like, all right, eh. Like that is what it is, yeah. Whatever. But I've heard the Grand Canyon like blows people away. It definitely, some people, like, some fucking assholes could definitely just be like, it's a hole in the ground.

and that's all it is. Like, whatever. It's fucking... That could be you in the same very vein, though. Like, that could be you. Oh, man. I love that fucking, like, cinematography, photogenic stuff.

Like, I loved it, man. I took maybe a thousand photos there. I was obsess with it. If I could have brought my drone there, I would have fucking literally came on the floor. Like, I would have went crazy. But the fact that people... To the lurches point,

like, I could see you be like, oh, there's like a canyon on Long Island. Like, whatever is not. No, man. This is different, man. And honestly, Annalope Canyon was probably like just as cool. It's this little fucking river bend that goes around this crazy little canyon thing.

And you can get really close. I remember the our guy that like took us actually said if you want to lean over the edge, I'll hold your hoodie. And you can fucking like lean over and see the bottom. And I was like, well, this is the saving grace here. I was like, well, this is how I die. Right. Like this is 100.

So I didn't do it. I get very, very scared of heights to the point. where like if I get close enough, I feel like I will tremble and fall off. Like I will lose all sense of like my leg power and I'll just go. So I didn't get very close to the edge. There was a dude at the Grand Canyon and I have a picture of it or a video who went out on his own into one of the little cliffs and just started playing the guitar with his legs dangling just on top of the fucking Grand Canyon.

So yeah, I'm not about that life. But I played Truon, True North. Oh, True North. Yeah. No, wrong. I did not play True North. Never played there in my life. I played Boulders, the North course.

Cool. I've heard Boulders is good. It was unreal. How about this? I went there by myself. Like I played that golf course by myself. And I matched up with a dude, an older guy, like a 75-year-old guy, from my hometown. East Meadow.

He's like, where are you from? I was like, oh, Long Island. He's like, where are I? I was like, East Meadow. He's like, fuck my face. He's like out from. And he's like, what street? I was like, oh, well, he's like,

whatever like this number three he's like are you fucking he's like I'm from 8th street I was like holy shit you know that house right around the corner I'm like yep he's like that's me it was nuts it couldn't believe it uh so look we're gonna be we're gonna be playing a little desert golf uh like a week and a half we got three matches I think lined up we're playing uh Dustin and the girls which is one we've discussed a lot we're playing Joel damon um which he's we haven't we haven't had him on the show before. We've never really spent any time with him. But I think he's a legend.

I think he's very funny. I think he's going to play, you know, it's his home course. He shot 58 at the course that we're playing at before. So we're unlikely to shoot 58. I think it's not, hopefully he doesn't shoot 58 every round, but he has posted a legitimate 58.

But he's going to, he's kind of shoot like a 63 probably, 64. This is where, I mean, we talk about this a lot, but this is for it. trouble. This is where we're in real fucking trouble. Well, because if they can get home on par fours or drive the green or get it close,

like we can't do that. So we need to have them have like long irons in just like us to make it a good match. If he's going to be shooting 50. But look, a course where they shoot, he's not going to be shooting a 50. I know. Like a 63 or

60. The fact that he's written down something that starts with a 5 is crazy. It's great. I agree. But look we do this every time we don't give ourselves enough credit like the if if if it's a course where he can shoot 62 63 pretty comfortably we're not going to have long irons in every hole like there's just no way we're going to be able to have we get four t shots we get four short irons in and we get four puts at it so i again think that like our skill level four of us combining to be one human being golfer is clearly equivalent to some of the best players in the world.

We have proven that. Now, we've really only played Kevin Gisner. I mean, yeah, we did the country stars, but we had one case. And in that case, like, we hit some miracle shot that we're probably not going to hit. Miracle. And so. Miracle irons. So, you know, this is really only the second time that we're going to put to the test the

theory that a four-man scramble can compete or beat, you know, the best players in the world. So it's like, it's almost brand new territory. I know that that's not true. Like, pyrus number two, we had played there before. I'd played there a million times. We knew it was going to be tough on kids. We had a very clear plan. He's not that comfortable there.

He's just trying to hit it in the middle of the green. Like, this is different. This is a top player, you know, one of a top zero point, like, a top. 99.99% golfer in the world out of millions of golfers, playing a place where he's very comfortable. We've never been there before.

And we're going to have to go out there and try to match him, you know, shot for shot. So it's going to be a tall task. And this is really sort of, yeah, we're going to play the other scrambles. They're very entertaining. And we want to beat four people as much as we

want to beat one person. But us playing professional golfers, whether they're women, whether they're men, whether they're ranked 30th, whether they're ranked 80th, whether they're ranked fifth, first in the world, whatever it is. That's kind of the true ultimate test with these things. And we get to get back on the train and go after and try to knock off another opponent.

And we get to do it in the desert. So I'm quite excited. And I think we need to have some confidence, fellow. So he's 62 in the world. So again, it's like, you know, if we can beat these guys, Kisner, now Joel, like we start to build a resume if you will of what's possible for the four main scramble i do think confidence is huge frankly i'll let you take your point though where you're gone but it is a little nerve-wracking thinking the shorter course to me just gives a me pause of what we can do i want long

and hard to give us the best best chance need long and hard because they're going to make fucking birdies out there man lots of birdies and we haven't seen a lot of birdies go in we haven't seen a stretch where the guy that we're playing makes three or four birdies in a row. Like we haven't seen that yet. That's not, that has not been against us yet. I am a roller coaster of emotion when it comes to my confidence level in these four-man scrambles.

It's really, really tough to, you know, get inside my brain when it comes to where I, where it, where do I fall? I don't know. I don't know if I think that we're going to dominate.

I'm leaning towards we're going to get swept out of the desert. We have no chance. We're going to go, oh, and three. Like, I mean, there's a, there's a 90,

chance we don't even come close on all all these matches no not 90 yeah no there's a 90% chance okay but the flip side of that if we do say we sweep the desert oh my god oh my go like the like what lurch said about building a resume is very important because going forward for this four man scramble if we come out of the desert five and oh like there's there might be world there might be global buzz about the four man scramble and who's going to come with the king and try to beat us So we have to do everything in our power to come out of the desert 5 and O because that would be fucking incredible. Dude, and when it comes to that by actual golf,

like when it comes to my actual golf game, I'm pretty fucking caught. Like I'm actually playing some of the best ball striking golf I've ever played in my entire life right now. And I cannot wait to get there and like use that in the scramble. I think that we are going to be better as a scramble than we ever have been because I genuinely think I'm playing the best golf that we've had in our last two scramble matches. Like those other two times, I felt like I wasn't even playing that great.

I'm ready to go. This is us. This is us to a T. This is Frankie just said two seconds ago. There's a 90% chance we get swept out of the desert. And then he's like, we're the best four-maned scramble we've ever been. Yeah. So I think Trent's point is perfect, is like spot on. I thought if we just go out there and beat, you know, the pros or whatever, that's okay. But we can lose to the girls. That kind of like is just like an undercurrent of just negativity in our scramble. Like, we need to just continue to beat everybody because not only do we want to beat the pros,

but we want to be the best four-man team in the world. And so if we get knocked once, then we lose that. So it is mandatory that we win every match. Right, because if we come out of the desert 5 and 0, then we're going to get, there's a chance. Maybe Tiger Woods is like, well, now I've got to put an end of this. Now I got to shut these motherfuckers up. I think we're getting a little loose with how many matches we're fucking setting.

And like the fact that we have three in a row and I mean, it could just, like if we just don't have it, we have the yips that weekend, it's just over. We're two and three and we're a joke. We're an absolute joke. I would also like to say I'm a little bit worried about my endurance for these matches. Like whenever we go on these trips or I go to an Atlantic City Barstow Classic, at the end of the day, I feel like I've gone through a war. I've got a headache.

I feel like I'm going to throw up. Like I need to make sure my water intake is that a. very high level so I can continue for three days in a row playing all this golf in a very hot environment. Can we get Trent like one of those camelback water things just to fucking put in the golf cart he could just sip out of it the whole time? Camelback also Camelback Scottsdale. It's a little fucking callback right there, Camelback Mountain. You might be joking about that camelback but I would actually like one of those. I'll just strap it on my back when we walk in between our shots and I'll just suck on that thing. I'm not joking at all. I think you need to be hydrated. I think we should either play this

match early in the morning or when the sun's kind of teetering down we finish later like a I don't think I don't think you guys understand what the weather's like right now I don't think I do either I mean the high was like 69 yesterday oh it is perfect here right now in the morning you need like pants and a hoodie and then in midday it gets up to like 70 75 maybe but it's obviously feels like it's 65 I mean it is I don't have to show any skin especially around the girls I'll be fucking. I'm a little more confident. I thought it was going to be 100 and I have to show some leg. And I was going to be fucking, you talk about getting nervous on the first tee.

My toothpicks were going to be shaking on the first tee. Page Moranick looking at my legs, that's the last thing I need. I mean, I did a little Twilight 9 yesterday. The last three holes I put a quarter zip on it. I was freezing driving around in the car. Like it gets brisk around here. Yeah, the only times I've been in Arizona, it was like 105. And I wanted to put me.

Trent's been to Arizona three times. he's had three hospital visits for a stroke seriously though so yeah godstale's general he's a he's a he's a number one fucking patient i gotta be honest that makes me that weather change changes my entire demeanor and outlook on the trip honestly let me let me hit you with this today the high 72 tuesday high 71 wednesday 78 friday 66 perfect we're good i was talking about these matches of the buddy and he says, I've only seen roller coasters like this at six flags. Like it was literally the first message was we're playing these three people. I don't know if we have a chance.

And then after two messages, I was like, you're right. Like there's no chance we lose these because if we play this style, there's no way we can lose. We will just, if there's, I got texted by someone saying, if there's birdies for them, there's birdies for you. And that was such a game changer mentally. Like if this pro is just like tap in birdies, we should be somewhat close to that because we have four swings. at the same shot.

The third match, and you're right, but the third match has a whole different dynamic where we just got to keep it on the tracks sobriety-wise. Like I feel like there's going to be some drinking going on. Is this the Pat Perez match? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. So look, the plan is next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday

to have these matches, the 10th, 11th, and 12th, December. We're going to go live. We're going to edit them, we're going to put them on YouTube. But the third one is the finale. which I think it's smart that we're doing that one last. We're going to play our friend Pat Perez. You know, he's sending pictures about the dinner that we're going to do on his, like, back patio with his amazing, like, built-in outdoor furniture

that's, I think, shaped and says, like, Pat Perez on it. That's crazy. He's got, like, an infinity pool. So we're going to go there afterwards, and I imagine it's going to get quite sloppy. Like, I don't even know that he cares about winning. I think he just wants to have a really good time. So that could be a nice, you know, little cherry on top of our entire trip. But look, I'm thinking about it this way.

I'm thinking if we go 3 and 0, we are, like Trent said, we are a force in the golf world. Like, Golf Channel might have the right about it. There's a new kind of number one contender on the stage who's now 5 and 0 and undefeated in making waves. But even if we just win one, we're still 3 and 2 and have a winning record. So I think, like, our, you know, it could get to the point where if we lose the first two, we're now we're playing Pat Perez and it's like, do we have to win this or we have a losing record? So it could be, it could be a roller coaster. It's going to be.

Dude, I think the girls are going to absolutely fucking smoke us, man. They are, you're four girls that are three girls that are just better than us at golf. Like, yes, they hit a shorter, but they are all better than us at golf, all three of them. All three girls are better than us at the sport of golf. and when we fucking play them, they will be better than us that day. So we have negotiated. We're playing from 7,000 yards.

Wow. I think that is about, you know, five to 700 yards longer than I think they typically play in tournaments. So I think that that benefits us. Now, they do have Dustin on their team, who's a legend. He's the one who came to the Barstall Classic last year.

He played this year. He's the one who bid. all the money at the Jake Owen Foundation and donated that money to get this match on the book. So he's a, he's the fucking man. And he can play a little bit. Like he's, I think he's pretty similar to us, like me, Frankie Lurch. Like I think he's right around in that area on the handicap. I'm not exactly sure.

So if he steps on some drives and is out there, then we're just fuck. Because like, if he just drives it really well and he's hitting it the same distance that we are, then we're just going to lose because like you said, like the other three, the women are just better at golf that we are. So our only hope is that they have to hit in from farther into the green than we do. And if they don't, then the math says that we will just be defeated. And like we've all played with and been around Cage, Braddock. Like, yeah, like she's got her presence, her personality, what she does on Instagram.

She's also competitive fuck. Like she does not want to lose. And, you know, she's been like, any time that I, like, we'll joke around or we'll start chirp, there's a group text of the match. Like she's sending messages like, I'm practicing. and I will be ready to play. I think that they don't want to lose at all. This is,

this is like as important to them as it is to us, and that's not good for us. No, I mean, they're also very good. Like, Paige, like, made a run at, like, being professional and, like, doing that as a full-time job. So she's very apt and aware of how to win, and none of us have done anything like that in our life. So.

Two and out. We're doing it. We just, yeah, I think, I might think right now that in terms of betting odds, we are the biggest underdogs in that match. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think there's also a good out and a good path that we have where if we lose to the

girls, but then we beat Joel and we beat Pat, we could just hold, it's almost like our like our legitimate record versus like our exhibition record so we can be again we're three and oh and then on like we did preseason matches and we i mean who knows what happened knows but our our record in the professional realm is three at oh so we need to kind of build a clear path that we can spin out of any negativity and into a positive route where we're undefeated so we kind of need to keep that in our back pocket I think we steamroll, I think we steamroll Pat Perez. I think he's out there just fucking like, I don't fucking know, man.

Like, I don't fucking care. This fucking golf course. Like, he's just out there for drinks and food and just having a good time. And I think, like, before he knows it, the four-man scramble has absolutely gone crazy with on the birdie train. And he's like, what the fuck just happened? I did. Pat, I said to Pat, you know, I was like, hey, if there's anything you want us to kind of pitch or hawk or whether it's a sponsor or, it's some cause or some piece of merch, whatever what?

He's like, no, not at all. I just want to have a good time. It's perfect. That's exactly what we're looking for. You're right. Like that should be hopefully we could just go into that one and there's four of us and we could just steamroll Pat Perez. So anyways, that's all coming up.

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our guys. So welcome to the show. And you're obviously a big golfer, right? Yeah, dude. Thanks for having me on. appreciate it, big fan of the show. Yeah, huge golfer, dude. I love it so much. I wish I was a lot better. As we all do. Yeah. But I will say that this year it has provided the most opportunities ever in my life to play now that we can't get out there in tour. So the silver lining in it is, I guess you could say, I've been able to play a lot more golf than what I normally would. So I love that part of it. So how's your game? You're getting better right now, then?

I've gotten better for sure. I started out at the beginning as a 12, now I'm down to an eight, but I can't imagine myself getting much better than that at this point. Got to make some more plus before that happens. Dude, I'm pretty similar. We actually, we talked about this earlier this year on one of the podcasts that, like, one of the listeners sent in the question was, like, do you think you've shot your career low already, right? And like, I'm getting the vibe of year relatively new to golf. Golf wasn't like in your life your whole life. So, but for, for me, like, I've been playing golf pretty much my whole life, probably since I was like five or six, but really I've been into it

since I was, let's say, like, 16, 17 and I'm 33 now. So it's like, I'm only going to get worse and like fatter and like shittier looking and like shittier. So like, am I really going to have played my best round yet or not and I think like I was like it's probably 51% that I've I've shot my career low already I think what is your career low you don't mind I shot a yeah I shot a 72 at fryer's head like two years ago but I mean I'm like a five and I don't know that I can ever get much like to what you were saying that I don't know that I can get better than like a five I think I've maxed out like my swing's just bad enough that like I can never get much better Yeah, I think you got a great swing, dude.

I've seen you hit, you know, I watch all your stuff there on lawn, and I feel like you got good touch around the greens, just looking, you know, watching your chips and all that kind of stuff. And it looks like you smash it off the T-box. Look, I hit it. Biggest proponent of Riggs's swing, maybe in the world. We talked to Morgheim over today. Lord was literally sucking Riggs's dick today.

It was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. But listen, he loves Riggs' swing. He loves everything about his swing. We need to get back on the train where Riggs is like defending how bad. We have to start making fun of his swing. I need him back on his heels. He's too much on his toes right now. He's going forward.

We're giving Riggs way too much credit here. His swing stinks. All our swings stinks. He's about to be in Arizona for a hundred years, so he's going to be real good by the time he leaves there. I've played with Riggs for the last decade of my life, and Riggs's swing has been the same since it started. Like he's had multiple lessons,

multiple different thoughts of input on his swing, what he should do. And it's the same weird little back swing. And if he's playing really well, he kind of like hops up this pickup plus the ball. And like if he's got that timing down, he's money. And if that's a miss,

it's a miss. He's fucking money around the greens. No one can take that away from him. He's for sure. Buttery, buttery, buttery short game. I don't know how he does it.

But like honestly, if you ask me for anyone that I know that's not a professional golfer, if I need to make it up and down, like who am I substituting in? It's probably right. That's all. I mean, he's 13.

His 13 is the best in the game. He saved us a couple of times during the four-man scrambles with those up and downs. They're crazy. But here's what I would say, too, is, like, if you really, what's crazy is that you get out what you put in, like, I've always lurched nose. It's like, I don't enjoy going to, like, beaten balls at the range. It's like, I just don't know what I'm doing, and there's only so many times, I'm like, okay, I can just, like, this is just how I'm going to hit it, and it is what it is.

Whereas, like, I love short game stuff. So if I have an hour to like fuck around around a golf course and chip up. I go chip and putt because I just enjoy it. And so I imagine that that's like reflective in the game. But yeah, I mean, to get to the point, it's like my swing, it's funny how different it feels every day when it's like, oh, I'm doing this whole new move. And everyone's like, that's just the same golf swing we've seen for 10 years. Yeah, it's the same. It hasn't changed at all.

It's literally that swing. But to Chris's point, it's funny because, you know, we all start at whatever level or then you start. start getting good. And when you play against people, you see their level. So I remember, like, when I was at 10 and I was getting better, I would play a buddies that were like a six. You're like, I'll never be that good the way he's hitting it. And then it almost hurts your confidence when you get down to a six because you're like, I am not this good. Like, I'm going to lose money at a six. And then you have to build confidence at that plateau with your game, or at least that's the way I go. I don't know if it's the same for you. But like, then I start comparing. I'm like, oh, I'm not

that good, am I this good? And it's like a mental game as well. I agree with you on that. Now that I'm down to an eight, I just did a trip out to abandoned dunes a couple weeks ago. And, you know, we all had, we all put a pretty decent amount of money in the pot. And I realized, I made a lot more money when I was a 12 than I do as an eight. but have y'all been out to band and dunes so i have i think i'm the only one that has and yeah i mean i'm curious what you thought because on the show look like like buddies trips and golf travel is clearly becoming a bigger and bigger thing so we get into it about pinesh and about the different places that we've been and you know i don't know how many like superlatives you can use

for certain places, but Bandon and Frankie hates it because he famously passed up on like a family trip to go to Bandon a couple years ago, but Bannon's got to be just as good as you can. Yeah, I would agree with that, man. We did all five courses, played 36 holes a day. And, man, you like playing 36 a day? Any of y'all? Well, we like to say, so, like, there's a difference between, like, a golf vacation or a golf trip. like Riggs here loves golf trips i think he's actually leaning more towards the vacation parts of

where like you get one round in then see like the restaurants see the bars just like go back to the house got a couple of drinks man we've got we've done some golf trips where like it was work it was a work trip like you had to freaking 36 holes a day feels like a punishment like when you're on that 36 hole you're like we have this again tomorrow like how is that even possible especially when you're not playing good golf it's a nightmare oh yeah i had that first day we played Pacific Dunes and I'm not used to playing windy golf and it just so happened to be one of the windiest days that I could ever remember I had no answer for the wind. I could not figure out how to hit my drive. It was forcing me to swing clubs that I didn't want to swing shot at 98. 98 that day but you can't hide in the wind. You just you can't hide in the wind. It sucks. I've been there like it's it It's just in normal, like non-windy conditions, sometimes you can fake it, right? You can like come up with some pathetic like slap dick thing and get it in play,

like meander your way around until like an 84. And you're like, all right, that was fine. That's golf. If it's really blowing and you can't hit the ball, dude, you're just gone. You're out of every hole. The thing about wind that really gets in my head is like the actual swing shouldn't get affected that much. But it does so much because of like your mental, yeah, you just can't mention. to block it out. Like, yes, it shouldn't do everything to the ball. So, like, your usual nine iron

could turn to a five iron. That's fine. But, like, nothing should change about the way you make contact. And for me, when I play a win, I can't make contact with the ball. So, like, the wind doesn't even matter at that point. What it's doing to the ball has no effect on me. It's like, I'm duck cooking. I'm slapping. I can't, I cannot play a wind no matter what. I don't know what it is. It feels too restrictive, even though it shouldn't be. Like, a 20-mile-hour win should not change my swing. We should be having 180 mile an hour ball flight. None of that stuff should matter. Yeah, I agree, man.

It's a mental thing for sure. It really is. Hard to get past. Because think about when it's at your back, when it's at your back, I mean, I can conquer countries. When I set up to a T-box and the wind's at my back, I'm laughing in people's faces. Like, watch what I do here. And I don't think I've ever hit a ball incorrectly with wind at my back, ever in my life. It's crazy.

Just like, you're like a scratch downwind player and a 20. way five into the wind. Yeah. Dude, I think about that all the time, too. Like, if it's just a hard left-to-right wind, like, okay, I'll just aim and hit the ball 30 yards left to the fairway and the wind will just bring it into the fairway. What's the issue? Or if it's just a 20-mile-hour win straight into me, it's a two-club win.

I'll just take a seminar instead of an iron-air. What's the issue? Like, we're just doing math here. That's like when you play the Tiger Woods video game or when you play 2K, it's like the wind is just in your face. it's just a calculation. You go straight back, straight through, and now you're just on the green.

Why can't we do that in real life? Awesome. I don't know. It's the hardest thing in the world to do. Yeah, so the Pacific Dunes ate my lunch, dude, and I played much better at Bandon Trails, Bannon Dunes. Old McDonald, I think I was tired.

So we didn't take caddies, which is what we had planned on doing when we got out there, but there were a few guys who didn't want to do it. So then everybody was like, well, we'll just use push carts. And it was exhausting. Dude, it's also, that place, Bandon is impossible on your shins and your feet because it's so firm that you're just not used to that. And your feet are just in shambles after it. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, what a beautiful course, obviously, there on the Oregon coast. I can't wait to go back and try to not shoot a 98. Did you guys play all the courses? Yeah, we played all five. And we ended with Sheet Ranch. So I got to, let's do this. You get 10 rounds, 10 rounds at Bandon Dune's Golf Resort.

How are you breaking them down per course? How many playing in which courses? I'm probably going to do, I actually enjoyed Bandon Trails and Bandon Dunes both, probably the most. But I would say I need at least two rounds on Pacific Dunes because I need to try to, you know. Redemption. Yeah, I need some redemption on that course.

And honestly, that was maybe one of the most beautiful courses out of the whole five. But I'd say Sheep Ranch was the easiest. So I might just play that one one time if I were to go back. And then Old McDonald, that was probably my least favorite, but still obviously an incredible course. I just didn't, the putting service. I like more of a true putting surface. And that's kind of, you know, those, it feels like you're putting on a fairway in a way, you know?

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm happy to hear you say because, you know, I mean, people that, people that have been and get into this hardcore, like, course discussion and all that bullshit, they love to do the 10 rounds thing. And I'm 100% on board with you. I think banded dunes is the best course there. I think band in trails is, like, one B, even though that's the one with no real ocean views outside of, like, the first hole.

So, so I'm with you on that. I haven't done Sheep Ranch yet. like Sheep Ranch, it looks stunning, but I've heard a couple mixed reviews on it. Well, I'll say this. If the wind, if you don't have wind, there is nothing to protect that course. So you can shoot really, really well on that course if you're hitting the ball well because there are several par fours that are reachable from the T-box. Yeah, I want to, yeah, I want to see it. I want to play it badly. Yeah, there's not, there's no trees really, not that kind of stuff. There's not a whole lot on that

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I know you guys did this Pinehurst trip. And it's, you got to remind me who all was on it, but I know it was like Jake Owen was on it. Hardy was on it. I think Shane Mooney was on it. So tell me, you got to talk to us because I saw the video. It looked like a great time. What's this Pioneer's trip like with you? guys. Well, I got the darn idea from you and seeing that you spent some time there at Pinehurst.

And I grew up in North Carolina literally less than an hour away from Pinehurst. And I didn't grow up playing golf. You know, I played baseball and football and all that kind of stuff. And so I never played Pinehurst and always wanted to go play. And then I thought, man, we're not doing a whole lot of anything. Why don't I try to get some artists to go play Pinehurst. We'll get it set up, all that kind of stuff. And then what turned into a few people turned into 19 artists. And at first we had about 30 people going. I didn't expect for that many people to show up. But we ended up with 19 people and it was an awesome trip, man. We played all the courses. Number two, again, absolutely destroyed my will to live. Those greens, man,

they'll make you question a lot of things. Those greens are a motherfucker. We just had the Barstow classic. and like we played twice. We played against Kizner, and then we did once for our travel series. This was the only time that I've really paid attention to what was going on. Because when I play,

I don't know what's going on. But when I'm watching other people play, I actually can see what's happening to like the greens. I actually see the greens moving more. It's ridiculous. When I play, I'm like a blind person. It's insanity. But when we were at the Barso Classic,

I'm watching these guys, if you find yourself on the wrong side of the hole, which I've done at many places I did at Wingfoot, I did it all in Australia. I mean, I do it every time. I play golf now that I think about it. When you find yourself in the wrong places at Piner's number two, those greens are so nasty, so undulated.

Dude, the sides of them are actually faster than the green. Like, once you find that little slide, it's over, you're done. I watch guys who are playing the Barclasic classic with one handicaps, two handicaps, make a 10 on number one. They just couldn't figure it out. You get it up, comes back down. Get it up, goes over. Get it up, comes back down.

That's not even real golf. We did the same name, man. were all so frustrated like how is this even possible you hit a great shot on the green but yet it just trickles off somehow um a lot a lot of frustrated people um and uh outside of that did it was so much fun i actually really love course number four as well that was yes sir yep that i think that was all that was our favorite as well i think it's the most beautiful it's the most it's the most like beautiful to look at it's playable yeah it's just fun who's not that fun Like the first time I played two, I think I played better because I wasn't so aware of how evil the greens are.

But then by the end of the day, you're just like, every time I hit a green, it rolls off the side. Then I'm chipping. I got to do this off of like chip and try to make par or bogey. But like it's just, it becomes exhausting. The second time I played even worse because like I stepped. When I played the first time on the first tee, I was relaxed. And I played the second time, I was like, this is going to be like five hours of like kind of like. And so four is just way more.

more fun. Like, you can actually hit greens and make it you can score. Yeah, I'll say on number two, we had, so I played with Jake that day, Charles Kelly and Hardy. It was us four in the morning round there. And Jake and Charles wanted to play from the tips just because they wanted to see what they could score. So then I thought myself, you know what, all right, I want to play from there and just if I shoot 110, you know, it is what it is. I'll just want to play and see what I can do. But my problem with that is I don't really hit drivet. driver off the T-box. I usually hit my three wood because that's my strongest club in my bag. I'm still confident in that club. I know I'm going to hit the fairway. But that day forced me to

hit my driver, dude, I was spraying it every. You're just in that like sandy, grassy, wispy stuff and the trees all day long. And you're like, dude, what the fuck? And then you're not even to the greens yet. Yeah, yeah. It was, that course ate me in a lie, man. But obviously a ton of fun. to get out there and do it. Yeah, I would say that, like, for most, the average golfer, the typical, typical amateur, typical player, that I think if they go there, they're going to walk away and think number four is the best course there.

I think it's the most visually impressive and aesthetic. I think it has the most memorable holes from, like, a visibility standpoint, and just, like, your picture and your brain, you're going to remember a lot of the holes. But it also still has the pioneers, right? Like, you start at the clubhouse, you finish at the clubhouse, which is a lot of, kind of like cool like you're at the main campus um it's got like those holes that wrap around the lake it's got the tall pines you can see course too a lot of the time so it's not like it's separate from piner's it has a lot of qualities that number two has but it is just visually

the most stunning course on property i think like by fall yeah yeah i would agree with that i love that one a lot so you go on a trip with all these fucking country music stars and like it may be like stereotypical of me to ask like are you guys just sitting around at night just like there's someone like pull out the guitar or something like what's those nights like if you're like that's got to be unreal yeah so so basically what would happen is uh we just go out to the bus man and uh everybody just hang out and and pass the guitar around and just play some songs it was a lot of that right there is that's so cool my dreams man just fucking passing around the guitar all these every one of you guys can sing i can't imagine how different that is from like when i go to like christmas and

my one uncle that can play the guitar and we play like hotel California. We all think we're at fucking the Roxy. It's crazy. Like when we take a trip to Pinders, we're sitting around looking on our phones like, do you see what's going on? Twitter? That's pretty crazy. Like, it's like, that's so lame compared to what they're going. We are so pathetic. It's insane.

We're just not talented. Yeah. True. True. Your talented golfers, though. No, we're not. No. We've luckily found ourselves in a situation in which people like to watch us play poorly. And I think that that's like the lane that we're kind of owning right now is us just not really doing that

well. We trust that lane. I was the same way though. When I got on the bus, you know, all these guys that I look up to and, you know, and have loved their music and, you know, the get targets passed to me. I had to get absolutely hammered just to, I have some confidence to play from there. Dude, I bet. That's very intimidating. Yeah. How long have you been doing this? How long have you been playing music? music you say yeah okay um man i've been at it for probably years but i got signed uh four and a half years ago um so still fairly new to the game you know and i'm i'm on my fifth single on the radio now and uh yeah just still early in the game just trying to uh you know build on what we started and

continue with that but i will say that the thing that i love about um you know the more songs you get out there are the more pro-ems you get to play in. Yeah. I've been trying to do that as much as possible. You know, I've done that waste management for a couple years in a row and had so much fun at that one, but want to get more into that pro-am land, and hopefully that'll happen.

How do you do on the par three? Is it 16, right? Yeah, so my first year, I had honestly the best shot in my life. I was about that far from the hole. No way. And I missed the putt and got both. Were people going crazy when you almost jarred it? Yeah, yeah.

And then right after that, I went from an all-time high to getting booed was an all-time love. Dude, they are relentless out there, too. Yeah, they are. It's fun to be in. And then second year, same thing. I landed on the green just a little farther away from the hole and missed that put. but I parted it two years in a row. That's awesome.

That's incredible to, like, to execute those swings as somebody who's just an average amateur golfer under that kind of pressure is amazing. Well, I had a darn, I think the shot was about 145 of them. I'm not mistaken from the T-boxes we were hitting at. And I played with Adam Hadwin who said, hey, man, how are you feeling right now? He's like, you're a little amped up. I had a wedge in my hand. or no, I'm sorry, I had a nine iron in my hand,

and which would be the club for me in that shot? He was like, if you're feeling amped up, take your pitching wedge. So he handed me pitching wedge. I hit it. I hit it on the green and landed much shorter than I did the year before, but still made it on the green. I was happy about that. That's amazing that they actually do have to factor in the adrenaline,

and those guys are so good at it. I mean, I remember the first time I heard that. There was, I think it was like Kevin now or somebody talking about how like, yeah, my eight iron goes like this far at home during a practice round. And then it goes a couple yards further during a tour of practice round because I start to get like pretty energetic and into the week. He's like then Thursday, Friday, it goes like six yards longer. And then if I'm in contention Sunday, I'm like 12 yards longer with my club because the adrenaline just affects the swing speed so much. It's like, holy shit. I don't know if those numbers are exactly, but it was it was a process.

that and that was just so shocking to me. Yeah, I did. So in that, after that round that day, they had, everybody come back to 16 for a closest to the pen dang for charity. And so there was a bunch of, I think it was like John L.A. There were about 10 people who threw in a bunch of money and said, closest to the pen gets to donate to their charity. So I step up, I throw my money in and chunked the ball right.

Yep. So that one was embarrassing. Dude. That's the top. We-tonk in front of people. No. I'll say I had probably like the worst shot I've ever hit in front of people was when we did that four-man scramble. Ooh.

With the boys. And we had eight of us. He has Hardy, Darius, Morgian. Jake and then all four of us and I was the last guy to go out of all eight people and all first seven people just strike them and like there's some good players in the group but nobody's

hitting every fair like nobody's hit every fairway ever in the history. Put seven in the fairway and I step up and I'm not great off the key to begin with and boy that I almost missed the fucking golf ball and it was just so far right

you know at Trubedo I'm sure you know Trubodore. It's like, yeah, love that whole. First hole, I almost missed the pond to the right of the pond on the first hole. Dude,

man. So you're almost on number two, uh, screen. Yeah. I legit looked for it in like the fairway on the part three, two, second hole because I,

well, y'all ended up winning that, y'all ended up winning it. Yeah, we did. Pretty convincingly. I think the main reason we won is because I just think Jake got a little, he went a little,

too hard on the Owens mixers, transfusions. Because you know, Jake, like, he's a stick. He can play some golf, and he just was not hitting it on the planet. No, he was brutal that day. I felt bad for him. He didn't get it anywhere. He was having drinks, and he was like, and then Darius started to give it to Jake being like, I mean, we would be in contention, but my guy, Jake, can't do anything

today. It was pretty good internal banter. Man, what you got again, dude, I want to jump out there and play with y'all. you're going to get you involved let's get rid of Hardy Hardy was too good so we'll just replace Hardy with you and then we'll be okay

yeah it's actually not a bad call he's a player he's what was he was at the other day he hit me up oh TBC Sawgrass he said he played TBC Sawgrass the other day so he's I love something with you

the country guys you guys just all walk off yeah and that is that is a thing it is weird how everybody has I feel like even more so during all this quarantine stuff, more and more people have picked it up more than ever.

Sweet. So you've got to talk to us, you know, we're pretty into the scene we love getting into, like asking you guys about songwriting, the new song, big, big plans. Tell us about it, talk to us a little bit about it and give people kind of a little behind the scenes about it. Yeah, so the song is the song that I wrote,

actually just started writing just a random song just like any old day. And my co-writers and I got back together, trying to tell a fast story so I don't bore people. So it took us three times to finish this song. And it doesn't always happen that way, but we couldn't ever get it finished. And I remember the third time going back in to try to finish it. And I said, well, I plan on proposing in the next couple months,

we could write a proposal in it and I could use this song to propose because I was already looking for an idea on a cool way to propose to my girlfriend at the time. And she had given me strict instructions, A, that I better not ever do it in public or in front of a crowd of people that if I was to propose. So I just thought, all right, I'll write her a song. And in the song, I'll just propose. And it kind of worked out that way. We were in, she's from Portland, Oregon.

I did it in her parents' backyard on Father's Day of all day. Just had a little cookout shin dig bang. Because I always bring home demos and play for her. And I kind of just played it up like that. Like, hey, baby, I got a new song back just a second ago. I want to play it for you and get your opinion on it. And, you know, when she heard the third verse, she realized what was happening.

I walked her out to the yard and proposed. And then, long story short, I had no intentions of even putting the song out other than it was just the song for her and I to have, and people kind of took to it in the country world, man, and it ended up being my next song on the radio, and here we are top five currently. I mean, none of us on this show, none of us can ever allow a significant other that we have in the future to listen to that because nothing that we could conjure up is even going to be on the same planet as what you were able to do with the pose.

Seriously. We're not even the same species. It's crazy. Dude, I had something in the midst of all that, though, in her parents' backyard. They had these two dogs that run around. We were playing this game called Chippo in her parents' backyard. And so, you know, we were just out there all day. It was a beautiful day.

I had my shoes off all day long, just bare feet. And as I was walking her to the yard, and as I was about to get down on my knee, I stepped barefoot in a huge dog turd. I had crap on the bottom of my feet. Hopefully you're not a big believer in omens. You know, you just, you know, let that one go. Right before you do, it's just like dog shit. That's just.

Everybody's like shit out of you. You smell that shit? What's going on? You're like, I got no. No, you're like, focus on the ring. Focus on the ring. I swear this ring smells like shit. I swear it does.

Talking about, like, working with different people on, like, different songs and stuff. I'm obsessed with this new band. And I've been talking about it. I'm, like, crazy. It's an Australian band, DMAs. And I was watching an interview on them. They have this new album that's coming out, whatever. And they were, like, that's the first time they ever worked with a producer that changed, like,

their sound and, like, their vibe, like, to try. Like, they went out with, like, a more hip-hop guy. Like, are you, like, actively looking for people to work with that, like, brings in different, like, genres? Like, oh, maybe, like, this is what's hot right now. Let me work with him and with my style. Yeah. Honestly, I think, you know, country is in a spot right now where people are starting to do a lot more collabs. I mean, think about hip-hop artists.

I mean, I don't feel like there's a song out there without a collab on it. Like, no one's just going to be a song by themselves anymore. So we're really starting to see that a lot more in country music now. and people, you know, like Dan and Shea, work with Justin Bieber and there's countless others that we could, you know, come up with. But that's starting to be more of a thing. And I feel like country's kind of playing catch-up

in that whole side of things. But yeah, I'm working on some of the same kind of things myself, just collabing with different artists and trying to get different sounds. Love that. I find that stuff so interesting, like maneuvering your way around how to stay relevant and, like, finding new sounds.

Like, it's got to be so hard to sit there. on a fucking guitar and be like, how do I come up with a riff that just hasn't been used before? And that, like, that's got to be so impossible. Yeah, a lot of times it does feel impossible when you get in there because sometimes you're coming up with melodies and you're like, man, this feels like it's already a melody somewhere somebody's used, but you just don't know, you know what I mean? So yeah, sometimes it's hard, but other days, songs just kind of fall out and you just never know what you're going to get. Some days, you're like, you walk away and say, man, I think we got

something cool there. It's cool, man. It's cool being that that talent that it's so different than anything we'd ever experience and be able to go through. So what's the best way, you know, what's the best way people can support you? Go buy albums on iTunes. Is it streaming on Spotify? What can people do to support Chris Lane? Man, I think just all of the above, you know, any love that they can give the music is much appreciated. and yeah, I think my ultimate goal is for people to hear the music, say, I want to see that guy in concert, come to the show, have a great time, and hopefully they want to come back at the end of the day.

We got to get you guys out at the show sometime, man, and hang out. We sure. Once this world, we got the vaccines are coming. Once this world, we had John Taffer was talking about it. It was going to be a huge boom in the spring and the summer. People are going to be back, so we've got to get to some show. We're so much, we're boys all of a sudden with all these guys that we're huge fans of with you guys. And then now that we're finally, we can't go to any shows because it's COVID.

We got a long list of guys. We got to get to these shows. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, anytime you want to come out, man, come hang out. I'd love that. Awesome. We appreciate it.

Everybody go download his music. Go purchase his music. Go stream his music. You're going to love it. And we're in Nashville and whenever you're around doing shows again, we'll sync up, my friend. Heck yeah, dude. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you all so much for having you. Thanks, bro. Thanks, man. Really appreciate it. See y'all, man.