Fore Play - Trent Breaks 100

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

Trent did it! He did it. After years of rounds, many visits with John Tillery, several hours logged on the 5-iron Golf simulators, Trent Ryan delivered the most iconic round in Fore Play history. We relive it all and discuss the most important aspect — what’s next? We also get into Xander winning the Olympic gold, Lurch vs Frankie in ping pong, upcoming visits to The Northern Trust and to Bandon Dunes, trips to Erin Hills and Newport National, and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm sorry, Barstool Sports, brought to you by our very good friends at Owens Mixers. Quite the debacle of a start, I must say. It feels like ForPlay is somehow in shambles yet in four and a half years of doing this show. This is the first time in the history of doing the show where our man Trent Rans career is double digits. So it is a monumental moment, a monumental show.

You three are all in studio. I'm at Aaron Hills in this lovely room at the lodge. Hello, gentlemen. How are we? I think that deserves a round of applause. Oh, come on. That's really nice. Thank you.

You guys have all, in different ways, you guys have all been incredibly instrumental in my golf career and in my goal to reach 99 or lower. So you guys have been there through a lot of the steps of the way. It's a big accomplishment for me. It feels like a weight has been lifted off of my shoulders. It's really, it just feels good. And I said in one of the videos where I just want to be a quote unquote normal golfer. And I understand that being as bad as I am at golf is far more

the norm than being very good at golf. But you know what I mean when I say that, where whenever I tee it up, I just don't want to be the guy all the time who people are like, all right, well, that guy's going to just put up a huge number. And I don't want to get too carried away either because I've only done it once. But I feel very confident in my skills right now. John Tilleri, he's the man. He helped me construct this new swing. He helped me with course management.

He helped me every single step of the way. So he deserves a lion's share of the credit. And it just feels really good, quite honestly. It's a huge weight off your shoulders, I'd say. Big. Trent, Ryan. I mean, you as an adult human being, how often do people really set their sights on something new, a new goal?

Usually you get pretty set in your ways. You become who you are. You're not going to accomplish anything new. You're not going to go too low, too high. You set out, my friend, to break 100. You went down to, what, Georgia and tried literally went into a new world. You, Iowa boy, corn boy, went into a new world. You're stretching upside down.

You're trying new things. You're standing on this fucking tea. It's like its own circle. You're what, like wake surfing. You're doing all kinds. of stuff in an effort to get yourself out of your comfort zone, change your swing a little bit, learn what needs to be learned. You're going to five iron golf. You set your sights on something, and you accomplished it. So well done, my friend. Thank you. And I don't feel this way anymore,

but there were stretches during this process where I thought, what did I get myself into? Because before when we would go out and I would shoot the high number and, you know, that was just sort of what it was, I didn't get that frustrated because I was like, this is just what I am. And this is how I play golf. This is what it's going to be like forever. But then when you decide that you want to improve upon something, the pressure gets amped up a little bit and the expectations get a little bit higher. And I got more frustrated during some of the breaking 100 rounds than I had been in the past. But I'm okay with that because I did, I got much better. My swing is better. My golf game is better. But in the moment, there was a part of me that was like, did I take the fun out of this by

trying to get better at it. And I don't, that's not the case anymore. But I, so it's just, you know, 95 I feel really, really,

really good about it. You also brought people in your life to help. Like, Frankie was almost, I would say, your catty, your old dog through

the whole mission. J.T. was your coach. All the viewers that went through kind of each and every episode with you,

every shot. Like that, I saw that pressure almost mount on you of just I want this. I want to say I did this. And I want JT to be proud coached me.

Like, now you're bringing people on this. And there were some dark times because as we all watched, there was times where it looked pretty good and then it got bad. I fucking suck. I suck. That was times when I heard you just saying that over there.

And I was like, man, we've all been there before. Yeah, we've played a lot of rounds of golf together, you and I. Yeah. A ton. And I've never really seen you get down on yourself. You're always the kind of guy that we can always say that we're just not, we don't have that bone in our body. Like Trent's just the only guy that can let things, like let the punches roll right off of them.

And he just doesn't take him home with them. He doesn't care about what he shot. He doesn't care about how many balls go out of bounds. He just wants to go home and just, like, have a good dinner and eat some sour patch kids, and it's over. Like, you don't take your game home with us, which I think a lot of amateur golfers, unfortunately, do. Or you could look at it the other way where, like, we care enough to get back out there and grind. And I think you got that feeling halfway through this where you're like, oh, man, like, I'm taking this home with me now. Like, I'm thinking about it.

Like, you would text me. Like, I cannot believe I put up 116 or whatever the number was. Like, can you believe how many strokes that is? like I'm not even close. So I started to see, like, you really starting to care, and it's awesome to see you finally come through with it. We knew it was going to happen within the next round or two. We felt it.

Yeah, I had been playing better. I just had course management. Like, talk us through, like, what you thought, like, when did you know it was going to happen that day at Garden City? Did you know, like, the time you woke up? No, I did not. And I didn't know until pretty deep into the round, and I especially didn't feel that way when I made an eight on one.

Were you scoreboard watching? Were you scoreboard watching? I try to do as little of that as I possibly can, and that's always the mindset going into it. But then when you make an eight on one, it's already like, oh, man. Sometimes that frees you up, though. When you play your worst early,

you get a little more careless, let you see how it goes. And sometimes it can free you up. Sometimes it does. It didn't know, because I just, with the videos that have been coming out, and this isn't the right way to think about it,

but as people who put videos out, like I remember in the last video where I played well on the front and then I had two, you know, eight and nine were bad holes. and then I just fell apart and it just, I didn't get it done. And I know that there's going to be a lot of people watching and people are going to have a lot of tips. And it gets to the point where you get motivated by you just want to play well so people stop sending you so many tips. And I got to that point. I would say when I knew in the round that I finally did it, there was a pitching wedge that I hit on 16.

I remember when I hit that and I hit it out of the green, I had a birdie putt upcoming. I was like, all right, I'm going to make a five on this hole. And then when I really knew is on 17, I sprayed my T shot right. You avoided the bunker. And I avoided the bunker. Somehow. Because I had lost my 56 because I had left it somewhere in the course, which is of course. And in that moment, it would have been a very nice, easy 56 for me.

And instead I had to like chop a 52 and it got over that bunker. And that's when I knew. See, I think it's even earlier. So thank you to all the viewers, by the way, of just like, I mean, outrageous numbers on this fucking video series. nothing's lower than like 230,000, like quarter of a million views on every single episode. Had 12,000 people watching live. 12, I think it was like 14,000 live. We were pushing to it all night.

You're a TV spotting. I mean, you just have, you just carry your own TV show. The chat was live that night on YouTube. I mean, people were going crazy. Rick said that to me at one point. I had never really thought about it that way because I, and I still kind of don't, but he was like, you just have a TV show where every week hundreds of thousands of people end up watching your episode. And it made me feel.

weird when I thought about that way, but a lot of people were watching this YouTube. Yeah, you're like a solo star in, I mean, Frankie's kind of like a little co-star. He's like helping out and some of them. Other people pop in here and there. But you are like the lead role in a TV show that is an hour long per episode,ish, and hundreds of thousands of people. You're just a TV star, my man. That's just what that is.

And I know sometimes I get caught up and I've been shitting on the people who've been sending me nothing but tips. And I maybe harp on that a little bit too much. The other side of that is I get so much positivity sent my way. People are tweeting at me being like, you have motivated me to go out there and try and improve my golf game to maybe try to break 100 themselves or break 90 or break 85, whatever it may be. And that is 95 to 98% of the feedback that I get. People are incredibly supportive of the series.

They're incredibly supportive of me and my journey to try to get this done. So the whole time, it's really just been, it's been really great. So all those viewers are great. They're fantastic. and the one thing that I was laughing at watching, and I was in the chat, of course, and I was kicking people out there being mean, was that no one could understand why you were using a hybrid.

And they were just, they were yelling at you every single time, like stop with the hybrid, stop with the hybrid. And when I knew that you were going to do this, and it really got real, was on 15, you ripped the driver just right down the cock of this golf course. And then on 16 again, ripped it right down the fucking throat. I mean, I've never in my life seen such confidence.

You didn't swing one driver swing all day until the hardest holes at Garden City Country Club on 16. They have this railroad track that we've been talking about for, I don't know. How long did we talk about that for? Two to three weeks when we knew we were going to be playing there. I said, you can't go right. You cannot use a driver at Garden City on 16. He takes a driver out, hits it right down the middle with a birdie putt. So that's just the kind of confidence that you had.

That's the kind of confidence that grew with you during the series, and that's just awesome to see. Well, and just to sort of address the hybrid thing quickly, I've found in the past that when I get out of a hole and it usually starts with my driver where I just spray it and then I make a nine and it's like, fuck. With the hybrid, I just eliminate that completely where I'm in the hole the whole time. No matter what, I hit my first shot, my T shots down the middle or it's maybe into the rough a little bit and then I can work with that. And I know that I've hit my driver well in the past and sometimes it's really hot. Other times it's really cold. but I just wanted to cut that out of the equation and just get me get myself to places on the golf course where I can hit good iron shots or I can hit good wedges or I can you know hopefully two putt I just didn't want the hole to be over before it started the common man's Hendrick Stenson that's just that's how you play golf if two of you are frustrating because you were far out so I like I could see why they'd say like oh my god this fucking guy has to hit 190 yard shot onto a green every single hole but that's not we're not trying to trying to hit greens and regulation is the thing that they weren't

understanding. We're trying to break 100. That is it. We weren't trying to make pars out there. We were trying to break 100. So we've talked a lot about on this show, Lurch, you're the game of fives. Yep. Where if you view every hole as a par five and you make a five on each hole, you shoot 90.

Is that what it is that way? Spot on. Yeah. You shoot 90. So I switch that up a little bit. I decided to start playing every hole as one more than it than it. Like if it's a par five, it's par five. It's a par five.

Same rule applies. Yeah. It's basically the same thing. And if you view it that way, I understand that people were probably frustrated taking hybrid off the tea the whole time. But if you view it in that lens that I'm talking about, it's it no longer is about that. It's about breaking 100. It's about breaking 95. I understand that people want to hit the, you know, greens and regulation.

But for a guy in my position, I have to view it through a different lens. Right, because it gives you the ability to hit your drive, hit something up around there, chip on Tupupup. You know, and that's, all right, fine, on to the next. That's a par for. But, like, it gives you one more shot of just getting it on the green. And I think it uncovered one of, like, the big lies in golf of this, like, whole series of so many people are where you are. And the way that you hit the ball is impressive.

Like, you pure that hybrid. Like, you just have confidence. You just whack it. And a lot of people come home to tell their buddies, oh, what do you shoot, like, mid-90s? And they, I think, saw you and you're a building. And they're like, if he's shooting, I might be in a bad spot. here. So then you get these messages, I think, of like, hey, I'm going to go out and try to improve my game because, like, I saw what you did and I want to do the same. I've certainly

truly break my. I've certainly got a lot of feedback with what you're saying where, oh, I thought I was like a low 90s, mid-90s golfer, but I think I'm actually like closer to where you are or where you were when this started. And on the flip side of that, like, you don't have to play ball and hole all the time. Like that, don't play golf where you're going to be ball and hole and you're just like grinding over it to see where your score is going to be. I am very much. much an advocate and the show is very much an advocate of go out there, play, have fun, shoot whatever you shoot whatever. But people are realizing by watching the series where, oh, I thought I was a 90s golfer and

I'm probably more like a 105 to 108 golfer. Right. I put three balls out of bounds and I took a six. Like you start adding those things up and it goes to an 11 to 13 pretty quick. 100%. Owens Mixers, big supporters of Trent, been a big supporter of Trent Ryan for years now. Owens Mixers has. I know they're very excited.

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of build on itself. I thought you just stepped up and you just hit some really clutch iron shots that even if they weren't perfect, they were like pretty damn close to perfect and up on or near the green. I think that's the most impressive transformative transformative part of your game. transformed? I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. Transformed part of your game.

There you go. I couldn't agree more. And one of the shots that gave me a lot of confidence was my second shot on 10. Was my approach shot on 10? I'm not asking you guys remember. I was just trying to recount it. I remember you remember? You watched a video?

But it was. It was like because we had just played the front nine, which we played in an hour and 20 minutes. Yeah, that's another thing. We played the whole round in like two hours and 45 minutes. It was insane. crazy. And I wasn't running out of gas or anything, but I shot a 49 on the front. And I was like, all right, I got my work cut out from here.

I know what I need to do. And just making a par on that 10th hole was like, all right, let's settle in now and let's play some good golf. I then went on to double bogey three holes in a row at one point on the back. But when you make some pars here and there and a bogey, the double bogeys don't kill you. And JT's been preaching me that ever since I met up with him where he was like, the things that kill you are triples. If you keep mixing in triples and higher, this is just never going to happen. Double is not going to kill you because if you make a couple pars, those get knocked down to basically nothing. You're fine.

We got a lot of room for improvement here, and that only just screams one thing at me. Breaking 90. Is that where we're going next? Is that where we're going? I think you've got to live in the 90s for a month. I don't know how. Keep dialing the game. You think right now jump right into Breaking 90?

I don't know how you stop this train. I don't know what dialing the game means. like what if he just dials in the game, shoots an 88. That's true. Good point. You're on the track now where we need to know as low as you can get. And the funniest, I think, the transition or transformed part of this series, what will end up being is, you know, Trent and I are going to go out there. We're going to have a great time.

We're going to go to Borrellys. We're going to eat meals. We're going to play golf. We're going to have fun. And then at one point, one day, Trent's going to be like six over through 12, and I'm going to be eight over through 12. and the whole series is going to come to a screeching hall to where now I'm just worse than Trent. Like at some point, at some point in the fucking near future, because this guy's grinding on his golf game.

I mean, every, five iron golf every morning on Instagram story. I'm like, what's this guy? Hold on now. Hold on now. We're going to go from friends to enemies quick because if that happens, I'm done there. I mean, I would love for it to happen, though. I would love for us to start to get competitive and like what that would bring to the podcast. and how much fun those videos would end up being.

Listen, if we can get to the same level, that's great for everyone. It is a very funny visual thinking of that video being like, all right, this is a Trent, you know, breaking 90 video, and halfway through Frankie becomes the main character. And now it's, I got to try to be. You're not far off. You're hitting great golf shots. I'm all over the place half the time.

The only thing that you need to clean up, which a lot of people saw, and actually you did so well at Garden City that people thought we were lying throughout this whole series. your putting was atrocious for eight for eight episodes and then you just I don't know if you really three put like any hole at Garden City maybe one couple like but your your putting got so dialed in at Garden City like if that's just if that's just the new trend I mean eight the 80s are around the corner so the next step I think for the series is I'm gonna I am gonna go back down to Georgia yep and I'm gonna take the scorecard and I'm gonna have a bunch of things for JT I'm to give him a bunch of stuff. We're going to, I'm going to present it to him down in his little

training area in the bay that I originally started training in. He's got, you know, staff bags of kids and Ricky. And so I think we're going to get him something like that. We're going to hang up my picture in his space there. And then I think we'll just go from there. But I think breaking 90, I mean, it's pretty obvious, but that's probably where we're going to go now. You were adopting what he showed you. So he's got to be so happy to see you again because like all of the foundation is now there. Like he, he broke you down, gave you a new swing. You went out, you shot a hundred and twenty-six. You shot a hundred and eighteen, hundred and ten, hundred and eight, hundred and two. It feels good now that I did. Like, 104, like you started to get better,

better, better, and then all of a sudden it was 95. Like, he's got to be so excited to get his hands on you again because now he can teach you a little bit more. It was like step one. You've only gone to him once. Once. So like now it's time to, I mean, you also did the five iron thing. And we went to, we, I saw him in San Diego, but I only have done like the weekend trip where he, he puts a lot of information in my head one time. It's time for him to like mold what he started now, build up. You're only on level one. He's going to, this is going to be a skyscraper by the time. It is crazy how much he gave you with one weekend.

You know what I mean? Like your swing was is totally different than it was. The power that you have like is just astronomically different, which is very cool to see. Also the thing that I find difficult that I feel like you've. You've stayed with the process. Yeah. Like where maybe I try something new, I try it for a little bit, don't have success and just throw it away,

you stay with it and like some of the drives off the T's have been like, that's awesome. And I do think that next step, Riggs and I were actually talking when we're at Forest Dunes, which everywhere will see, is like when we play those longer, longer courses, you're going to have to figure out a way to bring the driver back in the back. And then you can hit the hybrid on the next shot. You know what I mean?

because then you're closer where if you're going hybrid, hybrid, and then you still have like a six iron in or something like that, it's going to be hard to stay at that level. So getting that extra yardage there off the tee, I think is something that you'll have to go back to at some point. I agree. And that's just going to be part of the next process where it's, I've got the things that I were really, really bad at,

well, I guess the one thing. I was bad at everything, but the irons were really bad. I just didn't really fundamentally understand how to hit iron shot. I really didn't understand it. The driver I can kind of figure it out, and I know I'm first T. Trent, but those, you know, those drives go like 185 yards. But that was still fine. But the irons, I felt like were a foreign language.

Now that I've got those figured out and I know how to hit them, building the rest of the game to a point where I can hopefully, you know, break 90 and just keep going. I think we can definitely get there. And JT is the key, obviously. I'm going to go down there. Yes. So there's a lot of people that have been following your journey, hundreds of thousands on YouTube, your TV stars. now, thousands of people that listen to this show, and almost all of these people want to get better at golf. You are an inspiration to golfers far and wide. Now that you've been through this

where we clearly are throwing at you, we're tickling your balls with how what you've improved and how well you did, what would you say have been the biggest drivers in your actual improvement? Like how important was the information from JT versus like actually going to five iron and practicing it? How important has like thinking about course strategy been versus putting, you know, the hybrid in play when it's not too long of a whole? Like where for you when you look at it are you like that was a big difference maker? I think it's two things. And the first is get a lesson. Just go get a lesson.

It'll help you like you won't even believe. And I know that, like, I've got Tilleri and he is just, he's a whole other level of swing coach. But I do think anybody who's trying to improve their golf game in any sort of way needs some sort of direction, something to work on, something that they can think about, something they can let marinate in their head. Because right now, if you're just a normal weekend hacker, which a lot of people are, there's not a lot of, like, improvement or, like, trying to improve. You're like, this is my game. I'm going to go out there. and, you know, sometimes I shoot a 91,

and other times I shoot a 111. Like, it's very much, it's sporadic. You don't know what you're going to do. If you get a lesson from somebody who knows what they're talking about, that's going to help in a major, major way. And the second, you had mentioned 5 iron, actually practicing and putting in the process that the swing coach or whoever, putting those into practice over and over and over again,

that helps just as much as the lesson, but you need one before the other. just being able to swing and like try new things because we talk a lot about on this show where every time we go out and we play we're playing we're not we don't right we spend 10 minutes on the range just fucking around we put 15 times before we go out there and then we go but actually going to a place like five iron or if you don't live in new york city you can go to your local place and hit balls around and have an actual goal because i used to you know before i moved to new york when I would go to the driving range in Cedar Rapids wherever,

I would just go hit balls. And, like, that helps to a degree. It helps to swing every single day or just get some swings in. But if you're not working towards something, you're not going to improve in the way or at the pace or the rate that you want to. So, I mean, those might sound like two obvious things where it's like get a lesson and then practice more. But that is a huge, huge, huge part of why I play.

Practicing more is not just hitting balls. It's like situational golf, right? Like, I was just playing the other day. and I had a 75-yard, like, checkdown 56-degree shot from the middle of the fairway. And I said to my playing partners, I'm like, the last time I attempted this was the last time I had a 75-yard 56 check-down shot in the middle of a fairway while playing up. Right. I don't know.

And then I skull that one. I'm going to skull this one as well or chunky. Like, I don't know what consists. I don't know what I have to do to hit this ball into a green. So it's like getting lessons. And then now what I'm realizing is, like, go find a short range or something or go to a park and learn that swing. So at the next time I'm 75 yards out,

I'm not double hitting the ball in the middle of the fairway and like hitting the ball behind me. To that point, Frankie, Lurch and I had a really interesting conversation like two years ago. We were like, if you're at a place, practice facility wherever that has like a green side bunker scenario to practice out of, if you go in that bunker and hit like 30 shots, you will hit in that five minutes,

the same number of green side bunker shots that you'll probably hit over the next year. So like, you're literally able to hit that many in that short of a span and no one really practices. So I think that stood out to me too, Trent, where like you could tell,

you had the knowledge, you had done the JT trip, you would try to a couple rounds of golf. And like, yeah, golf you get worse before you get better sometimes. But you hadn't yet, like really implemented going and like grinding on that muscle memory a little bit. So it feels normal,

like whatever your better swing is feels normal for you. And it felt like, to me watching once you started doing that, your contact, especially your iron play, was just so much better. For sure. And I remember JT being concerned about that too. I would, I'd keep telling him about these rounds that I played. And he'd be like, you got to stop playing rounds. You have to go and practice. Like, we're never going to get anything done if you just continue to go out on these golf courses and shoot 115. Like you need to go somewhere where you can practice. And you're right. Once I started doing that, once I actually started practicing, sure enough, I start playing way, way better. And that was big on my iron play for sure.

Yeah, I mean, I think people say, like, if you just go to a range and beat balls, like, it's so worthless. You know, there's no thought in your brain. There's no, like, attempt to get anything better. You're not trying to groove anything out. And I'm dumb enough where I still continue to do that. Like, I've gotten really one less of my life. There's a straight left arm and hit down on the ball, and that's, like, all I really do.

But Riggs laughs at me. He's like, dude, I see you at the range and you go flush, like, a five iron a seven iron and then like hit a drive or two and never never do i see you go practice a four foot pot and it's like yeah i mean and then it's in my head it's pathetic because like yeah i just do what i like what i'm good at like what i sort of i'm doing yeah and i just do that and then i'm dumb enough as well where i go out and expect a different result it's like if you're not making an actual like you know an effort to improve you're just it's not there so i love that you're committed to it. I mean, it's great. I just

like to see almost like the joy on your face and the celebration that you guys gave post-round was all time. All time. You could see the relief on the shoulders. As good as it gets. Just like, dude, I want to be better at golf. We just didn't want to do that shit anymore. Right. Right. We didn't want to go out there, try and break 100

and just not succeed anymore. It was starting to get like annoying. I know. Because we knew Trent had the skill and he had it in him. So it was like, I started getting frustrated at him. What was the round right before? That was at um, Stans Point. I like got angry at him walking off. You're like, you're a fucking asshole. I wouldn't look at him.

You wouldn't look me in the eyes on 17 and 18. It was crazy. You're like, I want to throw up. I did. I wanted to throw up because I knew like, oh man, just another opportunity passed. He shot a 102 at Aaron Hills, like forever ago. It's crazy. And that's, we played that championship level golf. Like, that's, and to think that it's been that long that you fringed on this like 101 to,

did you ever shoot 100 exactly? No. It's stunning. It's stunning with all the golf we've played on video that you actually never broke 100. The fact, I know, the fact that I shot 102 at Aaron Hills is around that I don't actually think happened. You know what I mean? Like it's the fact that it was a hard golf course. Rig shot 102 that day.

Yeah. I should eat like a lucky 103 or something like that. I think half the holes I picked up. So to do it there and then just sort of like you said, be on the fringes of it for years. And then we were just finally able to get it done. It was great. It felt great. I'm such an asshole that after I got the lesson and stuff from JT down Georgia,

I was like, well, this is going to be a two episode fucking series here. Like, we're going to be done before this thing even starts. And then you find out that that is not the case. So I think eight episodes is kind of perfect. And it's just worked out that way and we got it done. And now we just move on. If we flip the script right now and it sounds like we are and we go right to breaking 90. Yeah.

How many rounds do you think we're talking before? How many episodes do you think we're talking about this one? That's a pretty big gap to overcome. I mean, I shot 95 at Garden City Country Club. Shout out to those guys. I can't put a number on it. I got to go down there. I got to see JT.

I think you let JT put a number on what your next goal should be. I think it should be the series is like breaking 90, but let him assess where your game is at. And then let's like, you know, the series doesn't have to be eight episodes. It could be fucking 30 episodes, but people can watch your progression on what your next mini goal is, right? Like, all right, coming next week, like, Trent's going to play, like, a really hard golf course. If he can break 100 again and, like, he can get his putting down.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It's going to constantly be a battle. I mean, people can send us, like, what they think we should do or not do. I genuinely think it should be a breaking 90 series where you, like, learn your game even more within that series. Like, it's going to be a lot harder for sure. So it's going to be longer. Yeah, but like season two, right?

Like season two has got its own identity. It's like you're kind of relearning, okay, I'm now a 90s golfer. Fuck that hybrid like trying to break, like we did it. Now how do we really start to shave some strokes? How do we get more consistent here? Like Frankie's saying, like that could be, it doesn't have to be like your next 10 rounds have to be documented every shot. It's like, okay, let's regroup. Let's go down.

Let's go to Georgia. Let's visit JT. We're now on a mission to shoot, you know, in the 80s. I think that's right. Yeah. I think that's right. The idea of, you know, bogeying every, like on a par of 72 course, bogeing every hole to shoot 90, that seems impossible right now.

No, no. Believe, my man. You throw a couple pars and you can double bogey a couple. Yeah, that's true. The big one in the game of fives, I know you play it a little bit differently. Yeah. Is on a par three, if you can make a three, if you can get on in two putt and call that an eagle. You know what I mean?

It forgives a lot. And now it's always easier said than done. No, but I have found that those mind games are beneficial. Because if you go out there and you're... It feels like you win one. Right. And if you, there's like victories along the way because otherwise, if you're like me at my skill level and you're going out and you go to every hole and you think, all right, it's par four. The goal is to make par here.

Right. It's rarely going to happen. And then you get super discouraged about it. And you just, you end up hating the round and hating the day. And that's just not the way to do it. If you give yourself a little bit of cushion, which is necessary because you're, you're not. You're not going to shoot par. You're just not going to do that.

Give yourself a little bit of leeway, and you'll feel better about it, and I guarantee that your numbers will be lower. Well, congrats, Trent. Thank you. We're all happy for you. Congrats, Trent. Thank you. I really appreciate it.

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Where are we at with our With our ping pong team ping pong level skill as crush lurks yeah mine's just fading I guess so he's no longer like a really good ping pong I'm just like slide to the bottom the only the only claim that I'm going to say now

is it's ice cold in that room oh my god so the ball doesn't drop the way it needs to they're frozen plastic they were in the they were in spider's little pocket well if you saw me I was oiling hot yeah I was always trying to get a warm one to play with Marks lost two games today in the office it's tough like to walk in being like this

cocky ping pong player and lose two games. I never made any claim. You may have not have made claims, but everybody else has. A lot of people didn't. I think Riggs may have done that as well. I've done that. I thought. Yeah, you hurt my reputation, I would say.

100%. I thought you were going to walk. Look, the way that they talked about you, I thought you were going to walk in and people are going to be like, this guy should be a pro. Well, it is weird. I usually win a lot of ping pong games. In this office, I'm horrible.

Pressure just gets to you. I think it's the call. And we got a lot of killers in this office. I mean, Frankie beat me like 21-11. It was like, Jesus. No, you ended up coming back. It was 21-14.

It was 2014. He got all the way back to 2019. Oh, that's right. And I almost crumbled. I mean, I wouldn't have made this podcast if I lost that one. 2014, I was on top of the world. I started killing some. They were hitting the back wall.

I was screaming at myself. Like, do not do this. I didn't do it. So anyways. Tough. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're doing the Olympics.

We're doing like ping pong Olympics right now. So it's fun. I actually don't know. I actually don't know who ended up winning. They're doing it right now, the finishing touches. We've been playing since 2 o'clock in the afternoon. It's now 6.55 on Monday. It's a long day of ping pong.

So we'll see who ends up being the victor. Well, Lurchin, Newport, I thought you were red high. We're taking everybody out. Now, granted. There's just camp. It's going to be tough for people to buy into the warm table. We're playing. Everybody's playing the same table.

Is your side colder? 100%. But I just hit. every ball out. Everyone just I didn't get the spin on it, didn't get the rotations. Wasn't it last time you blame the paddles? You were always blaming someone. I will say he's because you're getting

quite the reputation in that still stream's room that you are a big complainer. Fine. First he said Jake Marsh was putting his hand on the table. They had to go to the tape and look at it. Then with I serve he says they're falling off the edges of the tables and like Hank's just like... Well, do you remember the last time I played? I got like

called on every foul possible. I don't know, man. Usually we just go in there play ping-pong. poem and leave. Oh. You know, we just play some pawns. You brought your own paddle.

He brought his own paddle with him, which is tough to lose to me. You know, I just picked one up off the floor and just beat them. Right. You like went to Modell's and bought a fucking paddle. You like to sound. Totally. It's tough.

I mean, it's a bad, it's a bad performance. There's no way to fight that. And I'll throw a couple excuses against the wall and see what sticks. Right now I'm going to hold on to the cult. Right. Because I think at this point. ball gets too cold doesn't get the rotation. It's a three-star ball, by the way.

If you had never played and refused to come in here and play. It would have been better off. It would have been a legend. It would have been like, this guy, he just won't even come in. He's a mythical. Yeah, you got to come out where he is. But now, now you just go limp out of here. Oh, big limp.

Yeah. Almost both legs are broken. Tough. Yeah. Okay. You lost to Frankie Borelli and to Jake Marsh. Is he who you lost it? Yep.

And Hank. Yeah. The only guy I beat was P. And even that, like, I had to change up styles and, like, just, like, kind of lob it back to him. But he's got no power, so it kind of worked. But I... None of my big offensive shots. It was just...

I mean, there's no... I lost. I lost badly. Okay. And I didn't really even feel very competitive on the table for being honest. At least you're owning up to it. No, I mean, it was gold. No.

I take that back. You are not owning up to this whatsoever. You're like, I can't play in a meat locker. I told people for you. Years. Lurch is the best ping pong player in person I've ever seen. And there were times. I think Frankie was even there with me. When we went to that fucking bar in the fat cats, fat cats. And Lurch would just run the show down there and dominate people. I've seen you at five iron. You crushed people lefty. Five iron. Yes. And I was like, he's unbeatable. And then you come into the office.

And it's fucking Phil Mickelson at Wingfoot. So you can't, you're collapsing all over the place. It's like I don't know. It's just, I was that you guys have long said, but I I'm not a cold weather golfer. My body doesn't work in a cold water. It's not that cold in there. I mean, we're talking about an office setting. Like, this is Arctic temperatures. What was it like 71 degrees in there?

I mean, how much lower could it get? 60s. The door is constantly opening. We got a bunch of bodies in there. The body heat alone. Also, you've got to be a 66 temperature, room temperature guy. That's, look at you. I like to sleep in that weather for sure.

He's acting like it was 35 degrees in there. He's played in a fucking meat locker. Somebody get the phone and check it out. is ice gold in there. But yeah, I mean, to put a bow on it. You're taking your losses like a champ. Put a bow on it. I lost.

You didn't show up in the ping pong Olympics. It happens. You know who did show up in the Olympics? Jake Marsh? Zander Shoffley. Yeah, he did. All right. Congratulations to Zander Shafley,

winning gold at the Tokyo 2020. They're calling it the 2020 Olympics. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that? Can't fool me. It's 2021. All right. I have a question.

When's the next Olympics? 2024. Yeah. So they're trying to do it like, So in a hundred years, since this is an ancient Greek thing, they like the history of it. I think they want to go back and say it was 2020. I think that it adds a little charm the fact that it's happening in 2021. Definitely.

Just like in MLB or maybe NHL sometimes, like in the year, in the year, like when something doesn't happen, it'll be like the war or something like that. Like they'll skip a year because they might say that on like the claret jug. I think it might be just like the war for four years. And you're like, oh, yeah. Yeah. The whole world was at war with the year. each other. So it was a golf tournament.

It's just a marker of what is going on in the world. Correct. Like when we, in the future, when we watch old highlights of baseball games or basketball games from this last year, it'll be like, oh, why are there no fans? Oh, that's right. A pandemic happened. Same thing with the Olympics. It can be the 20, 21 Olympics.

And then someone doing the math in their head, be like, I thought it was every four years. Why is that one a little different? And then they can go back and they can learn about what was going on at this time. I mean, at this rate, if people don't know what 2020 is going to be one of the most famous years of all time. No doubt. So the fact that they had to dance around it and also act like like they defeated COVID. Like, you know what I mean? It's kind of like, you're not allowed to do that. You can't say that you put on the Olympics in 2020. You didn't like, nothing happened. It defeated you for

the year. You like had to move it to the next year. And now you're just going to like in a hundred years, they're going to think it just went off without a hitch. Come on. I hate it. I hate it so much. But are they going to call this the 2020 rider cup this year? They can't. They absolutely can't. they better not they shouldn't 2020 did not happen you didn't have a writer cup in 2020 they did the Olympics did a whole thing

during the opening ceremonies where it was like they were showing a video montage of old Olympics and then they were showing all the years and the things that had the Greek stuff in there you are obsessed with the ancient Greek stuff I watched Hercules recently I've never seen you feel obsessed with something every time we were in the Olympics you go

well there is cool man like the Coliseums and all and that wasn't really ancient Greece but what I'm saying is that they did a video montage where it was like every four years, oh, this happened, this happened. And then when it got to 2020, they shut out all the lights. And we're like, and then they brought up pictures of Times Square being empty and all these places

being empty. You can't then claim that it's the 2020 Olympics. It's a joke and someone needs to be fired for it. But I want to say congratulations to Xander. Congratulations to Xander Shafley on gold. It was a really awesome performance. I mean, he kind of almost gave it away at the end there, got a little dicey. But I did bring up on last week's show how important that this would be.

Before he even teed off on the practice round, I feel like we were talking about this, that Zanders Shathley was the one to watch because of the story with his dad. And we've talked to his dad, Stefan, Stefan. What a story out of him. He was this German decathlon athlete. Basically, his grandfather was an Olympic athlete. And then he had some injuries. And he always looked up to his grandfather.

his grandfather passed away when he was 18 years old when stephan was 18 years old so he always idolized him and looked up to him wanted to kind of follow in his footsteps ends up realizing he's a really good athlete says i'm good at a lot of things but i'm not really great at one thing and the german team was like well there's a decathlon he like didn't even know what that meant tries out puts up these ridiculous numbers they say like you're on the team like if you can i think it was like pole vaulting if you can like get really good at pole vaulting or one of the things that happens in this decathlon, you could be like the best in the world. Like that's how good this guy was. Yeah. And it turns out in November of 1986, as he's getting ready for the Olympics, a drunk driver recklessly took a blind curve and hit Stefan's vehicle head on while he was traveling to the USC Mines training facility. See how I put a little German on there?

Yeah. Which I think was actually correct. Okay. He says the last memory, yeah. The last memory of my Olympic dream was all the guys from the German decathlon team coming to my hospital room, it was an emotional farewell, everything was over, my independence, my new life, my track career, my plans, all of my dreams. I certainly had a death wish. There were some dark times. He talks about alcoholism. He talks about recreational drugs and all,

everything was becoming like, he was doing everything to an excess. And then finally, like, came through the fog and, and has a family and moved them from Germany to America. And he has a son, Zander, and he has another son. What's Zander's brother's name? Nicholas Schofley, and they are starting to take on their dreams and their aspirations, they become golfers, and would you know it that Zander Shafley somehow qualifies to be on the United States Olympic team, takes his dad to the Olympics, and out of all the people that performed in the Olympics, Zander Shafly won the gold with his dad by his side, fulfilling his Olympic dream, making it into a reality.

How fucking awesome is that story? It's the best story at the Olympics. I love how much you love the story. You love the story. I love it because we talk to Stefan and he is such an eccentric, amazing person. I never knew anything about this. He had eight, like, eye surgeries. He could bear it.

Like, he had a fucking life-altering crash by a drunk driver on his way to pursuing his dreams. Imagine being a decathlon athlete. Is it a decathlet? Yeah. Imagine being a decathlet and then just like someone else taking that away from you. That's just fucking crazy. And then you have an offspring. You have a baseman.

baby that ends up winning a gold medal out of all the things to do in life. You could have been an accountant. He could have been. Doctor. I guess I was screaming because I heard my mic, extremely. Sales guy. He could have been a sales guy. You could have been a fucking lawyer.

You could have been a prosciutto cutter at, you could have been a prosciutto slicer at Uncle Giuseppe's in East medal. You could have been anything. Cashier. Electrician, cashier. He was a gold medalist winning fucking athlete. What are the odds of that, guys? Look, it's an awesome.

story. I love it. I just don't love it as much as you love it. I thought it deserved a recap. I thought that's a really good recap. Which I think you painted the story pretty well. I didn't think you were going to find Xander's brother's name and then you did and it really kept going. That saved

the momentum for sure. No doubt. I was thinking the 1986 to Catholic, didn't Mr. Kardashian, whoever, didn't he win that the Catholic Caitlin? Yeah. Missing prior Mrs.

That's Caitlin Jenner formerly Bruce Jenner Yes I don't know if that was his Was that his year? I don't know Didn't he win the decathlon

I believe that was a sport No I don't Yeah because he was like the Iron Man Right Like he was like the greatest Olympic athlete That like the United States

Had ever seen at that time 86 actually does ring a bell I feel like I've seen like the Wheaties box My uncle Paul does the Iron Man stuff Goes to Hawaii every year Unbelievable impressive what those people do Now, I don't know if Iron Man is even close to DeCathlon stuff. I think Iron Man's different.

He wanted a decathlon. In 76. Right. 76. As good as that Xander's story is, and I agree with you, I don't feel like it's got nearly enough pub. It doesn't. It does not get enough pub.

Because that type of story is what the, what golf needs in the Olympics to like, to give it something. To give it something. Oh, yeah. Like that's the headline that like gets the eyeballs and people get excited about it. And Bob Costis is sitting there with double pink guy talking about just. like he's crying his fucking eyes out about Stefan sitting there. The pink eye performance from that man is so good.

That was the Winter Olympics, right? All time. Where were they in like Sochi or something like that? I think it was Sochi and he like just couldn't get out of there. He had double pink eye. People thought it like the moment was getting to him. Just really tough stuff from Bob. My main takeaway from the golf and the Olympics this time around is kind of what we talked

about in the lead up where we had the discussion where does a gold medal fall like with a major or an upper tier PJ Tour event or whatever. And it kind of played out the way that we said where, like, I'm glad it's happening and I'll definitely watch it to a point before I fall asleep because it's on so late. But for the guys that are actually playing in it, this means a shit ton. Like Rory talked about it. He's like, I was wrong. He pretty much said I was wrong.

He didn't play the last time around, played this time. And he was like, this is as good as anything that I've played in. It's as important as anything that I played in. Justin Thomas said something. very similar. So I think that's certainly important to have guys excited about it and saying to maybe the golfers who didn't sign up this time around being like, I know you guys are kind of poo-pooing this and we're all rich and we don't want to fly all the way wherever to go play. But it is actually worthy and it's a very important event for the game of golf. I hope that translates in the

future to higher-ranked players going, all the best golfers in the world playing. Because right now, as a viewer, and I'm very happy for Zander. I'm very happy for Rory Sabatini. Shout out to that 61. C.T. Pan, like, that's a very cool moment for their careers, but it didn't break through to certainly general sports fans, and I think even some golf fans are kind of like, it didn't have the oom that I wanted.

Yeah, I think if people, like, Rory, give it its due. And then you think, you know, it's only once every four years. So you have less of a chance to win that than you do any other major. And I think from that standpoint, as generations continue to go on, like as a kid, they were never, ever thinking I want to win the gold medal in golf. Right. So this generation is kind of in like middle ground, if you will, from my standpoint, where they're always looking at the green jacket, the Claire jug, whatever the case may be, where maybe the young kids, certainly in the U.S., wherever, see this gold medal and see Roy talking about it. And now they dream of a gold medal as a golfer too. and that becomes part basically of, you know, the targeted trophies, if you will, of one's career.

So maybe it just takes a little bit to change. In our golf world, too, once we remove all of this from the Olympics, I think it'll be very a significant milestone that it'll be talked about whenever Zander Schauchley's mentioned with his career he's had for a few years now. He's come up short in big moments, tournaments, majors. it'll be his crowning achievement until, you know, maybe when he's the gold medal winner. Like that'll be,

and I think that, again, taking that away from Tokyo and then putting it in the silo that is like golf media and the golf world, that is going to get referenced for the rest of his career, especially the next year or two while the Olympics are still fresh in everybody's memories. And I think that that's very cool. Now,

whether we get to another spot in three and a half years when we start talking about guys going to the Olympics or not, if people remember it, if it's fresh whatever um but i think like to frankie's point i mean zander tweeting out those pictures all week um you know from the crash the newspaper clipping then from the driveway with him and his dad like that added such real genuine sincerity towards him wanting to win and then he did win and it was like oh this is huge to this guy like justin thomas talking about and tweeting about how much it meant to him rory's comments just being like i'm wrong rory's the best by the way

I do think that's going to go a much longer way, for whatever reason, this cycle around in growing the Olympics for golfers in the future, then it did even the last time. And hopefully it sticks because it was extremely cool to watch him hit that four-footer by the – By the way, does anybody on this show make that four-footer to win the Olympic level? Right in the heart, too. Never had a doubt. No chance. You found another fact.

I could see you scrolling. Well, no. I wanted to make sure that I had all this right. because Aiman Lynch put out an outrageously good piece on Golf Week this weekend about just like basically the things that we were talking about where like everyone always has a problem with, you know, something in golf or sports. And we all like to find like the worst in it. But like for the people that are actually like attending it and trying to win, it's got to be like the coolest thing of all time. And he had this one thing in here. First of all, first of all, he's like the greatest writer of all time.

I'm starting to read more of what Aeman puts out. and the way that he can like, like, make you picture. What's the word? Like, he, like, can paint the picture of what he's talking about so well that you're like, I mean, I read it like a fucking J.K. Rowling book. I feel like I'm reading fucking Harry Potter. He draws you in. It's crazy.

He also sneaks in a couple laugh out loud funny lines in most of them. Dude, this is one of them. Well, it's not funny, but it's just the way he writes this. He goes, some contend that the worthiness of golf as an Olympic sport is determined not by the stature of its competitors, but by those who stay home. Thus, when Dustin Johnson sat out of these games twice, it was entered as evidence that no one else should even bother either. This grasping at strawman mindset would grade restaurants on the views of people who don't even eat there, which is so true. Like we see like a Dustin Johnson doesn't want to go there.

Dustin Johnson's never played or like doesn't want to play for his country and or like he doesn't know what it feels like to play in the Olympics. But we're taking his sitting out as evidence as to why it doesn't, it's not cool. And we're seeing that across the board. Every single time someone drops out, we're like, oh, it must not be awesome. And we said that as guys were dropping out on this very show, we're like, well, if these guys don't want to do it, why should we watch? When the people we should be listening to are people like Rory, who had their minds change. Where he sat out and was like, I mean, he had a whole host of reasons, but he was like, I'm just not going to do the Olympic thing. Does it this time around.

And he's like, I can't believe I ever missed this. Right. And then he goes, and then some people say we should have amateurs in there. Maybe that will help spice it up. He says, would you have liked to watch top amateur ranked, would you write top amateur ranked Kida Nakajima was chasing gold rather than his compatriot, Masters Champion, Hideki Matsuyama? Like these names are in there.

They're enticing. They're fun. Guys are trying to win gold for their country, for themselves, for their team, for their dads, like fucking Xander Shafley. I'm telling you, I really think that the Olympic golf took a huge step forward with this. I think because of guys like Xander and because of the storylines, we're going to see that guys are going to care more. The timing really sucked.

I didn't watch most of it from 1 o'clock in the morning to 4 o'clock in the morning because it's a nightmare to try and watch fucking golf from 1 a.m. to 4 a.m. on a fucking Thursday or Friday. I mean, you have to sleep. I mean, it's crazy. The timing was outrageous. But it got me gassed up, as you guys can probably tell. I'm gassed up about Olympic golf.

I would love to go to the Olympics and watch golf and see what it does to these guys and see how it affects them. We're going to get you to the Olympics. next time, Frankie. Bro, he talks about, like, and it doesn't have to be, again, I'm quoting fucking Aiman Lynch again, not really quoting him, but I'm going to take some context out of it.

He says, like, Novak Djokovic doesn't say the Olympics is one of the Grand Slam majors. He doesn't compare it to winning Wimbledon, but he cares so much about it that it is, he leaves it as like a, it's a nice addition to his career.

And that's like a cool thing to be able to watch someone want to do. What are you guys doing with your little snorkeling? Paris, baby. Paris? Harris, baby. Harris, Frankie. You're going to Paris.

Paris? Oh, my God. I'll dominate Paris. I look like I belong in Paris. You throw those little blue shorts on me that are rolled up and my dainty. My dainty legs. Maybe I'll grow that mustache again. And I'll walk around with a cigarette in my mouth and like a really, really thin t-shirt.

And everyone's going to be like, look at this fucking Frenchman. Oh, my God. I'll eat so many. Crescants I'll eat soul little croissants You'll fucking make your Dick fall off

And think about the next time Fingers crossed There will be fans there This time around it was an empty golf Well I still be alive by then What year is it? 2024 Yeah hopefully my heart can keep pounding

Through this pursuit You know how sometimes you think about that When there's big events Am I going to be there for it? I used to think about that for Christmas Am I going to wake up tomorrow? Yikes Or like a big vacation

Like man I hope I make it tomorrow Stay with a hope You know what I mean I hope I can make it You guys have never felt that. Oh, absolutely. Come on, Trent. I really have you look at it. Definitely. Every Christmas? No, like a big night.

Like you're going to Disney tomorrow. It's like, I hope I don't fucking die tonight. The Olympics are a perfect example. It's something Christmas is a little too off. I'm just thinking Santa's like, you should be thinking of Santa's like, but the Olympics are perfect because it is four or now it's three years from now.

That is like, I can walk outside to get by a bus or whatever. Like, so it's true. You got to avoid get hit by bus like nine like a thousand times before that like that is across the street of bill infinite amount of things but what i think you guys are saying and i agree with you every little piece of this the zander story rory's comments j t's comments how cool it was watching these guys go down the stretch watching zander make those puts they're all little bricks in this golf olympics wall that i think if you just keep piling those up people will take golf in the olympics much more

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Is there something to like a certain amount of years? What the fuck was that? For everyone 27? You guys even remember what happened back then. Is there something about, before you die before Christmas. Seriously. Is there something about like every certain amount of years for everyone? Like maybe it's your 28th birthday.

It's the day you were born. Like I was born on Friday the 13th. And now this year, it's my 28th year. around the sun and it's Friday the 13th. One of my buddies said it was his day that he was born on two, turning 28. And then I know someone else, it was their day that they were born on.

So I don't know if there's something going on. I think I might be wrong here, but isn't it every seven days? Like my birthday, let's say my 31st birthday was on a Friday. That means my 32nd birthday will be on a Saturday. It always moves one day over and over. So that be every seven years?

So this is the fourth time you've done. 7, 14, 21, 28. Does that make sense? Could be. Do we think that that's right? That's a cool little thing to know. Yeah. It's your fourth birthday.

But then I know you have to mix in like leap years and things like that. So I don't know if what I said was right, but I know that it goes through the week, like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. But then some days it can go from a Tuesday to a Thursday or something for a leap year, you know. Right. Oof. I don't know. Get back to us. That's like a what's up doc kind of.

Your birthday's on Friday the 13th? I was born on a Friday 13th. What does that make you feel? It just makes, that reaffirms everything I know. Okay. Yeah, it's fitting. Black cloud came out of my mom, just like, lights flickered. Yeah, I think that's about right.

Yeah. What do we think of this seven-for-one playoff for a bronze medal? Yeah. What do we think of that? It was a weird, cool, dumb. Dumb? It's a little too much for a bronze medal. If I were one of them, it'd be six people going for bronze.

What? Wait, what? No, you explained. You made the point. No, no. I said it wrong. Explain yourself, Trap. No, no, I won't.

Nope, I won't. I won't. I mixed it up in my head. You okay right now? Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine. I think the Olympics, though, in general, has things to figure out with regards to the play, like that's offered.

I think they could change it around a little bit. Yeah. And make it more interesting. But, no, seven for one, it's a little bit. It's a little too much. It's a little gimmicky. It's too many. just too many for one.

I don't like seven for one. I didn't like anything about that. I do think, you know, Aeman even says that in his piece. Like, there are a lot of things that need to... I keep calling it a piece,

by the way. You like that? Yeah, that's good. He says it his piece. You want to just read his whole piece? No, I don't think you can do that.

I think that's, like, not good. I think people should go to golf. Kurt Minhan's going through that right now. Yeah, I can't be doing that. I think things need to be ironed out. I think that the players are starting to feel the,

that they want to do it, and you just got to figure out a way. He even mentioned, like, is there, like, men and women competition where, like, one day they do alternate shot and, like, you can show the best pairing from the best country, like, who has the best golfers, men and women? That's really cool. Like, that would also add to it.

So there's a lot of ways to add to it. I just, I think it's definitely gained, you know, it's gained that respect, I think, amongst the players this year, for sure. I think when Rory speaks, too, it's... Totally. About anything. Right. And, like, he's so honest, he's so transnational.

transparent, like he's my favorite guy to listen to in golf and it's not that close. Probably his accent. No, it's not. That adds. But like, that doesn't take it away. That doesn't take it away. Okay. To why you go, what's six to one?

What was, what was? No, I would I, I was saying that like if I were involved in it, I would just leave. Okay. You're just out of the competition. Yes. I didn't say it correctly, but I was like, if it fits. Boy, did you not convey that? I know.

That was the biggest. When we were talking to us. You're just like yelled six to one or something. Broke 100, so now he thinks he's in the Olympic. Why was the first thing for you to answer that question or that, or, you know, respond to that. Because I've never said anything done on the show in my life. So I'm trying to figure out what you're going to hit. Yeah, let's really turn the screws on me.

So what were you thinking? Why did you immediately put yourself in one of the six? Because he said, what do you guys think of this? And I immediately started to think like, what? I was in the Olympics. No, no, if I were, if I were. So if we say, so if we say, um, Hadeki Matsuyama and Dustin Johnson and went to a playoff, you'd be like, well, if I was Dustin Johnson, I would have lost that.

No, I'm saying, he had said, what do you guys think of this playoff that took place? And I immediately, for whatever reason, put myself in a guy who is, it's seven people competing for a bronze medal. And I would just be like, I'm out of here. I don't want this fucking bronze medal. That makes sense. That was not part of the story, but I appreciate you explain it. I don't, I, why are we breaking down what I said? I just point that track.

Yeah, started laughing at me. I don't know. Because I've never said No, Frankie's never said anything down at the show. No, not once. It's a weird thought because you can't tell them like I'm just not playing for the bronze medal. That would be. Yeah.

I thought it was a funny thing to say. And now it's really, if you explain it over and over and over again, it misses every single time. Do you guys think the caddies should get their own gold medals? Or should they get like 10% of a gold medal? Like a little mini one, maybe a coin?

Give them a gold medal. Really? Do you get a fucking, Do you get a U.S. Open trophy? Does the coach get a gold medal on hockey? I think so, yeah. But I don't know that like the whole training staff would. Yeah.

They're pretty interesting part. But he's like a mental coach all the way. He doesn't get a U.S. Open trophy and he doesn't get a green jacket. Kay doesn't get a green jacket. No, he doesn't even get a sliver of the cloth. So it's like, I don't know. It's tough. My gut says no.

I think they, I spit everywhere. I think that they can. Let's talk about it. I spit, I don't know, I got something going on. I just spit a little bit. I ate a lot of Chipotle and I had a lot of cheese and maybe things are just popping up right now. What you go to Chipotle? Let's your go to Chipotle order.

You know, today I had a new Chipotle order that I've never had before because of this man to my left. He made me order a new Chipotle order, which is crazy because Chipotle is the ultimate, like, Chipotle is the ultimate. Same order. I know what I'm getting every time. I didn't make you do anything. No, well, the amount you talked about it, you don't think I would have. I mean, I've eaten a lot of Chipotle tacos.

He had Tripoli tacos. You get the three tacos. I got one barbacoa. I got one steak one. I got two steak ones. One of them I threw a little guacamole in there. They were delightful. I like them.

Light, you know, quick, easy tacos. I will say after the ping pong thing, I walked over, Trent had him. And I was like, is that Chipotle? Because three tacos, like nobody gets. No. You get the burrito. You get the bowl. That's it.

I tend to get the steak bowl, guac, covered up with all the goodies. But, no, I've never saw. Then when I saw you had three tacos, I was in a treat. or I almost just ordered it just to sit. I find that the bowl or the entire burrito is too heavy sometimes. You're on a crazy taco kick recently. Oh, yeah. Really crazy.

How are we going to get you out of this? I don't want to leave. You don't want to leave the taco cake? No. Why would I want to leave taco cake? No. Why would I want to leave? I don't know.

I'm happy. Pat, like, nervous, no. I'm just, why don't you just not focus on what I'm doing and just let me say stupid things. things in a new microphone and not go back on it and then let me eat tacos as much as I gold medal for the Olympics what do you think for a caddy yeah no lurch I'm a yeah really full metal full metal maybe I think that the US open trophy claret jug green jacket argument was really good I I just don't know how you give the caddy a a gold medal I just don't know

how you do that I don't think give them a gold earring or something I don't you can't give them a metal I don't know Which is name on the Stanley Cup. Does anybody know that? It is. Oh, definitely. There's something about going over there, like being in the Olympic Village, wherever they have to be, like, stationed and, like, the grind, especially this year of the Olympics,

being a part of that. I don't think the golfer has got a chance to be a part of it, but, like, the opening ceremonies, like, if you're a part of that, there is, like, an argument to be made that, like, you are part of that, like, team that is getting awarded that medal. Like, I don't know, man. It's tough It's tough Because metals are just different

Like back in the ancient Greeks Like they probably You know I'm just saying Like there's a lot of history They probably didn't even have metals All of it They all they had to have something

I don't know about metals Maybe they put the Did they put the green stuff Around their heads? Like you know what I'm talking about? The ivory or whatever? The ivory You think they put like little

crowns around their heads? You want you move to Greece I guess my question On this topic is Is there any In any other Olympic sport, is there anything like a caddy?

That's why I compared it to a coach, but like... Coaches don't get a gold medal. Do we know that for a fact? Oh, I thought they did. I made that up. I'm going to look it up. I said it as confidently as I could.

There's this thing called Google. There's no way they're just giving out gold medals. They're not like Super Bowl. For wrestling, like they give the coach... I'd be interested. Coaches do not receive Olympic medals, whether in a team or individual competition, when their athletes reach the podium,

however, at some world championships and other elite sporting competitions, they are recognized with hardware. However, only the four who won the final received their medal on the podium. I don't even know what the rest of that means. All I know is that they say they do not win gold. Gold medals are medals for the athletes.

They're for the athletes. Yeah. Like, everybody gets a Super Bowl ring, but not everybody gets the Lombardi trophy. How about this year? Every gold medal winners. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's like it's just, and I know. Yeah. But the Lombardi trophy goes to the team. Yeah. I don't love that argument. You know what I mean? Like, are all these medals just going back to the country? No, but you understand, like, the significance of the trophy itself.

Yes. Like, the Lombardi is the fucking Lombardi. And they make a, like, the guy who sweeps the floor at the football stadium gets a Super Bowl rating. Right. That's different. Like, I feel like the, and that's that additional hardware that Frank here is probably talking about in that point. Of, like, athletes get the medals, everybody else in the surrounding probably gets a cool little trinket. I think that's right.

How about this? So, Zand. won the gold medal. He also won from the U.S. Olympic Committee this year is paying both, I believe, all medal winners and then also Paralympic winners, the same price, or relatively the same price for the first time of all time, which is going to be awesome to see. $37,500, I believe, is the number per gold medal to the winner. Do you think you just give that to the caddy? Or are we getting crazy now? You know, I won the medal, you win the consolation money that they're also giving with us. And we just had, we just had.

one hell of a fucking week. Yeah. I feel like that is the way to go if you're a golfer. I'm into that. I also, like, I think, you know,

I saw like him and his caddy taking pictures together with the medal as caddy had the medal around his neck at one time. So even though they just gave him one medal, it's like they can share and take pictures, but Caddy doesn't get to go home with his own. Okay.

No. I think, love caddies. It's also interesting. A lot of our best stories we've ever had in the history of the show are from caddies. A lot of our best experiences have been, with caddies. We fucking love caddies. I got to draw the line. I don't think Caddy gets a gold medal. Right. We've never made the argument. Yeah, we've never made the argument for like Joey La Cava.

Like, we love Joey La Cava. We've never been like, that guy needs a green jacket. No. No. Never once has it popped in our head being like, that guy was with Tiger Woods, got him through Thursday to Sunday. It was there on his bag. He won the greatest masters of all time. One of the greatest come from behind stories of all time. Tiger Woods is back on top. Joey Lacafei has to get a green jacket. Give him that jacket. We didn't even think about it. We didn't even think about it. Right.

Maybe give them a scarf or something. Nothing. We didn't even say anything. We're just like, no, Joey's just like there. It gets 10%. Right. You know, it's crazy. Singapore.

How much do you think they pay out for a gold medal? Not even close to the United States. I'm going to say $1,000. $738,000. What? So I think it's because the U.S. get so many that they just only pay out a little bit. Singapore, I mean, you must go back as a hero.

So they're at 738. Taiwan's at 716. Indonesia, 346. You also get 5 billion Indonesian rupees or whatever. What's the country now? Singapore. Have they won even one gold medal? Well, that's the thing.

They probably never. That's so mean by Singapore. Right. It can be $10 billion. That is so mean. We are going to give you $1 billion if you win a gold medal. They just know they'll never even come close. We could be wrong.

Maybe they're winning a couple. I'm looking right now. I got zero medals so far as well. Okay. Make that number as high as you want. Seriously. Who's our guys that are going to the front lines? Huh?

What? The golfers. What are you talking about? They're going to war. Are they not? What? For the Ryder Cup? Is that you're talking about?

I thought that those. guys had to get, I thought those guys had to get metal. Okay. Sung J. Eam. Right. Thank you. Jesus. Hello.

I mean, you said our guys. Yeah, from the podcast. I was thinking you. All right. We were thinking America, dude. We were doing the whole country thing, Frankie. You and you just couldn't think of one story where someone was going to war from the, from the, from golf.

Going to war like metaphors going on here. We're talking about the story. Like, how are we supposed to pick that up? You weren't supposed to pick up the two guys. I said, who are our two guys going in the front lines? It was like two shows ago. I don't know if you said two. I think you said, who are our guys going to the front line?

Which then it almost seemed like they were like going to visit them and like support. No. As like, Seawu Kim. Zander holds the. C. Wu Kim and Sung J. M. and Sun J.M.

are going to, are just going to the army. I forget the end of that storyline, but they're definitely closer to go into it. Right. I don't know. I don't know if there's more opportunities for them. We got a lot of tweets about those guys.

Almost not. Like I read this. I read this whole thing. It was, I think I think it was Daniel Rappaport with Golf Digest who did a phenomenal piece on this, but he went through all of the history.

People probably didn't think we could read before this episode. Definitely not made. Now we're talking about two different fantastic golfers. Pieces. Pieces. And it was in amazing detail about the ways in which you can avoid the military service in South Korea.

and it's like none to the point where if you even if you even are in any way suspected of trying to you risk being like culture shamed badly and in a place where that's what they care about a culture about like respect and honor shout to smitty barstool if you are in any way suspect like suspected of trying to weasel around that, you will be like publicly canceled and shamed ruthlessly because everyone does their military duty. Like everybody's supposed to think that they're like above it or better than that. And literally like the only way to do it is to win like a gold medal or a medal in the Olympics.

And then there's a few other ones, but it wouldn't pertain for golf. So like some have won it in like if you win a gold. medal, I think, in like the world championships, you know, it's one of the exemptions, but like golf doesn't have that. So they're fucked is kind of what it sounded like. It's so weird that they like, they can't see that like, basically they're saying if you're an extremely good golfer to the point where you win like a gold medal, you do not have to go back here.

I mean, Sunjah M and Sewell Kim are extremely incredible golfers. They just didn't achieve like that one thing because they played poorly one week. That's so crazy to me that they can't see like they're. They don't need to be going to the military. And again, it's a different culture, so they view things in a different way. Completely different. But it's like having top tier golfers like that is great PR. Oh, my God.

You know what I mean? For the country, you mean? Yeah. Wasn't Sung J.M. like your guy to watch for the next five years? And I'll hold by that. Yeah, he's going to be holding a fucking assault rifle. He's like an 8K 47. It is crazy, though.

There's no like, you're gone. He's out of there. Like, for that country, for support, it's like, yeah, I'll give you like 15% of my winnings over the next. If they just let him play, like he could do other support for the country and that's just... You just lost your guy in our little competition to the military. Right. Which is just an outrageous.

What they were describing too is that Seoul, South Korea is like the same distance away from the North Korean border as like Brooklyn to Newark. And right across the way right there, like North Korea and their crazy person leader just has. have missiles pointed at like Seoul South Korea and that they take like this militaristic duty unbelievably seriously because their biggest foe who again is like an unhinged crazy person with like nuclear missiles is is um you know a quick fucking trip through the tunnel away from just being able to God knows like they just go to war so yeah that's a problem they take they take the duty extremely seriously and Probably for like, and I don't know how important.

I'm sure it's incredibly important from day to day. But like, I bet the world has some thanks to South Korea for like at least holding these guys off and like showing some sort of battle. And like, hey, like you can't just fucking aim those things at us. Like there's a lot of things going on in Korea that I don't know. It's a tough neighbor to have. That is a tough neighbor to have, man. So again, you can't just be like. No, I'm pretty sick at golf.

So I don't have to go do that. Right. They're like, no, no. Like you were born in Zelle. Korea, we nurtured you to be an adult. Now you will serve on the lines that we don't get blown to smithereens by Kim John who shot 18 on 18 holes in golf. It's admirable.

I'll give them that. It's just psychotic. Yeah, I wonder if there's any more opportunities coming up or if that was it. I really don't know. You'll have to go back through the story. But I know that they skipped the British Open because they wanted to prepare for the Olympics. So this was clearly a very big deal.

Did you imagine the pressure? No, we did that? No. What if you don't, like, I don't know, shoot, pawler on a hole, somebody blows your head out. But if you do... No, it was five putts. Something like that.

No, no, that was for the jail time. You get $10 million for every putt that you make. Everyone that you miss, you go to jail for a year. Or maybe it was like if you were leading the masters with like a five-stroke and you lost, like... You'd get your head blown off. If not. An 18, yeah.

Right. I mean, that, I mean, that pressure... Pretty close. Dude, actually the pressure, it's a lot of pressure no matter what, but pressure in comparison to the other competitors. in the Olympics. Justin Thomas and Zander are like, all right, well, we're just going to go. We saw Rory Shank a ball because there was so much pressure going back on the first hole and made an aid, I think, and then he was just out of the tournament. Right. Like, no, this is different. This isn't

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San tan lotion is to, I think it's more like spray-based, but it's to help you bronze. You're making this up with this morning. It's true. Like there's something that helps you tan. Sunscreen is to block. Sun-tan lotion is too. Yeah. How about I just go fuck myself?

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for your skin, not bad for your skin, and they protect you out there. All right, a couple things we got coming up. Northern Trust. We're going to be at the Northern Trust at Liberty National the entire week. Coming up in a few weeks, the first playoff event. And gentlemen, I got an interesting text. So we have this match coming up that people have been tweeting about with Phil Mickelson, Harry Higgs, Joel Damon, and who's the fourth?

We know who our fourth is in that. Keith Mitchell? Keith Mitchell, who won the Honda Classic a couple years ago. Great guy. We had him on the show as well. Catching, you know, some rumors that this isn't really going to be covered necessarily by like PJ, Tory and one else. And that since we're going to be on site, we should just cover it. Yep.

Yeah. No brainer. What day is this going down? I think it's on Tuesday of Tournament Week, which is going to be in like three weeks from now. Hell yeah. That's how you start that week with a bang. I think that's exactly right. It's Tuesday before this.

It's Tuesday before this tournament. Oh, four players are just like showing us this match. Maybe the best match that's going on in PGA Tour, that's not like an actual match. Like, this is a real match. The real matches go down prior to the events. It's not the like humdinger ones that you see on TNT with Charles Barkley. And everyone playing grab bats.

This is like, these guys are getting ready to play in a playoff tournament. I mean, yeah, it is. It is. This is the real deal. This is where all the cash gets moved. This is where winners are bred. And it's natural. It was a natural social media, like back and forth between Harry and Phil. Yeah. We'll have to see how close we can get to him. Get the trash talk. Harry Higgs. Is Harry Higgs just going to like trash talk, Phil? He's a trash talker. So is Phil. Harry Hicks tweeted out that you're like one of his favorite people, Frank. He did. It was an outrageous. He just picked one of us. It was nuts. I can't believe he did that. Yeah, he did a Q&A and somebody said, who's your favorite member four play?

He picked Frank Borella. He's got to be my man Frankie. That's got to make you feel good. You know what it is? We had just a really good connection to Kiowa. Every time I saw him, we hug and like embrace and something about him. Like he would always say like a one liar to me. I'd chuckle and he'd be on his way.

Like we were just, he was viving with me and I was vibing right back. I love that guy. He's great. Can't wait to see him. So we'll be at Northern Trust all week. Folks should get tickets, fans, obviously, Jersey. people can be there. We're going to be there all week.

We don't really cover many PGA tour events. In fact, we cover like no PGA tour events. The only thing we really go to, we're sort of the Brooks Kepka of golf video. We go to the majors. We go to the U.S. Open. We go to the PGA Championship. That's pretty much it.

That's because we get credentials. We have access. And on a weekend, week out basis, we don't really have much access. We can't film a lot. The PGA tour is much stricter when it comes to their filming rights, when it comes to a lot of their

broadcasting partners. It's just tougher for us to roll in, do what we do, bop around the range, bop around the practice facilities, pop around the practice rounds, and kind of get the type of stuff that we find interesting

and our people find interesting. Northern Trust's going to be different. Liberty National, we're going to be there the whole week, like I said. We're going to be putting stuff out. We're going to be all over that golf tournament. I'm looking forward to it because, again, I don't know, we haven't really been to many PJ tournaments.

Trent and I got banned from one one time. I don't know, we've really been back since. No, yeah, we got banned from the Zyrr Classic. You know, for whatever reason you can point to. But yeah, we really don't. And this one's really close to us here in New York. So, I mean, we're going to cover that thing like a motherfucker. I'm excited.

Yeah, I don't even, I guess I went to the Barclays was basically, that was before this, right? The Northern Trust was the Barclays tournament. Yep. So I went there to Glenn Oaks, I guess, just as a fan. When DJ won? Yeah, I think I went for like a practice round or something Against Spain from the playoff, remember that? Yeah.

That's right. So yeah, I mean, I really haven't been to anything aside from that. So I'll be excited to see it. Oh, yeah, I've been, I think I was at the Barclays one was at Bethpage too. I was a big Barclays guy. So I guess I'll just be a big Northern trust guy as well. Yeah, it's going to be fun. We'll be out there, like I said.

Well, people should get tickets. I think there's like a little beer garden or some other type of areas that we're going to hang out, try to do a live podcast or two and just kind of do our thing. So if you're thinking about going to the Northern Trust, I recommend that you do because we'll be there. Next thing we got coming up, Band and Dunes. So we're trying to do a couple travel series every single year. We did Vegas.

We did Northern Michigan, which will be coming out soon. Our last one for this year, Ban on Dunes. I'm the only one here that's been there. It is, in a lot of people's minds, a golf mecca of the United States. It's, it's, links golf, all the courses. There are five courses they have now, are ranked inside the top 100

for courses in the United States of America and we're going to be there filming that's coming up in a little over a month but I thought Bannadunes on the radar. We got Trent's playing the best golf. He's ever played. Coming off, again, pretty big series. I've been walking to and from work

for that trip. You got to prepare those legs and shape. We're wearing golf shoes? No. No. That'd be nice. What, dude? I actually think that's a pretty good fucking... You're just on me today.

Go to Central Park and throw up the golf shoes and just do what. You're just on me today? You don't think it's a good idea to wear golf shoes if you're going to walk? No, no. They're just different types of shoes. I agree with Frankie on this one. Of course you do. Throw the shoes on.

Those would be some all-time candid photos of people getting you. Well, the ones that you wear, don't even, what do they call the M-G-4s? M-G-4 plus. He's not looking at me. No. He has his head fucking turn away. He's shunning you. You're being shunned.

If you're going to, if you're going to, practice walking like you're on a golf course. Why don't you wear the fucking cleats, man? Doesn't make any fucking sense. It does, dude. They're just, I'm trying to build my leg muscles. It doesn't matter.

It's not a leg muscle thing. You've walked golf courses before. It's a foot thing I heard because it's so fucking hard on the ground. So maybe walking on the New York Street, the New York City concrete with some golf shoes would prepare you for the next month leading up to abandon. Maybe I'll walk to work with no shoes on it. Okay. Is what I'm saying making any sense?

I understand that I've been a brother. No, but I followed you for a little. bit. You don't think it's making sense? If he's going to walk New York City in golf bikes. Well, Riggs did say, and I don't know why the fuck I'm going on Frankie's side here. Thank you. But like he said that the ground is very hard and it's your feet that really hurt. And I'm, what I'm talking about with walking to and from work, I'm just trying to get up the cardio.

Yeah. I mean, I'm fat right now. We were talking before alerts. We're both fat again. We just always end up in the spot. And I need my legs to just be able to carry my body through all those golf courses. But I do understand that. I don't want my toesies to hurt.

I don't want blisters. And I, like, do they have a spa there? Can I get my, can I get my feet massage or something? I don't take a set kind of place. It's just hardcore golf. That's pretty much good. Yeah, that's it. Which I'm very excited for, but I just want to make sure my body is in the best shape.

Does band and dudes? Bring two pairs of shoes. Does Band and dudes live up? When you, in the middle of that day, sorry, Frankie. Actually, I'm not that sorry. You can just shut up. I'm going to talk for a second. Okay.

During the, like, middle part of the day. Everyone's like, yes. Finally. That one guy sits home and like tapes how many, he times how many seconds I talk and he's like, he's 37 seconds over the average. I don't want to act like I'm on their side, but I am on my side right now in this podcast,

so that's why I said preach. Oh, God. Bro tip. Go ahead. Rick. Like Lurch just said, if you bring two pair of shoes and you just change shoes in the middle of day,

even if you're playing 36 one day, it'll actually save for whatever reason. I don't know the science behind it. Just throwing a different look at your feet, shoe-wise, saves your feet for the trip. If you can do two pairs of socks, to in there. Just like when you change your shoes, change your socks also.

It's a big difference. You get some fresh socks in there, crack the toes once, let them breathe for a second. Makes it a big difference. Two pairs of socks within the same round? No, so you finish 18 holes and you're going back out on 36. When you switch your shoes, switch your socks as well. Okay. I want all of the advice I can get honestly.

Are we doing 36 in one day? No, but most people do when they go on this kind of trip. But I do figure we'll probably hit the preserve of the par three course. You know, might get excited. to play some emergency nine, but you're right. These, when we fill them the whole day, we don't usually play 36 in a day. I'm excited. I'm going to abandon.

Does Bannon live up to the hype, or is it like one of those places where it's like there's so many golf courses? There's a couple really cool holes on the water that like, like, does it live up to the hype of like being a place where you have to travel from across? I mean, we're traveling, what, six hours on a plane to get all the way to Oregon to get on this fucking golf course, this golf resort? Is it going to live up to the hype? Is it a place that I'm going to, like, not believe? I would say Band and Dunes is the single best, like, single golf destination in the world.

Okay. Wow. Soul. More than, like, old course. Now, again, if you go to, like, well, you go to the old course, but I think you play the old course, there's a couple other really cool courses that are part of St. Andrews, like Jubilee or whatever, they're cool. But I wouldn't consider that, like, a single golf destination that's as good as Band and Dune. overall. Like all five of their courses are off the churts. All top 100. All top 100 in the country and they're all

literally on the same property, the same like two second shuttle. It's it's so good. The only thing I put up there with it is like Pinehurst. You know, Piners doesn't have the ocean, but Piners has the history. It's got the main campus with the cradle and all that. But like Pinehurst band and I think Cabot once They start to get a few more courses. Obviously, Aaron Hills doesn't have as much, but, you know, we all, like, Aaron Hills has a special place in our heart, the experience being in Wisconsin, all that.

But if you were to actually pick out, I'd say, like, one single destination to bring a golfer where they're going to play a handful of courses in the same spot, I don't think you can find five better golf courses than they have abandoned. Wow. There you go. I'm jacked.

Me too. I'll start walking to work with my golf shoes on now. That'll be an epic video, too. that coastline that's gonna be beauty that drone that we're gonna bolster up those propellers

coming off that fucking we're gonna need serious propellers against windy yeah I've watched videos of this fucking place it's nuts might have to get a sweet drone for us then

yeah it'd be a first oh every time I'm fired a drone yeah yeah get them yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I gotta go to fucking best bite to buy my drones

you literally sell drones for a living yeah it's crazy in law enforcement it's insanity we got a drone over here how much sleep did you go last night

he's nasty huh how much sleep did you got that oh I'm in a good mood okay I'm in a good mood I'd hit off Frankenstein's fat foot Jesus there you go yes

thank you it's been fucking time an hour 30 I have no idea yeah I feel like it's been an hour What do you mean you have no idea I don't know the time

it's pretty close I'm looking right at it it's like right around there right around there We'll take that. We have to take that. I looked at him like, I looked at him like you were insane. I was like, what are you fucking talking about?

We were talking about feet earlier. So I said that's like, oh, man. All right. Way to go eBoh. It's got to be close to an hour and a half. Yeah. Jake Bass says it's an hour 30. That was fantastic.

How fun is that? There was. I love it. There was a split second where we all forgot what he was doing and we were like, what the hell just? So for anyone that doesn't know, we do a, we do a nice little segment called what? ninth green at 90 minutes and you just randomly say a quote from Happy Gilmore at the 90th minute

Oh it's a shooter quote When did we start that? Maybe three months ago That's the first time it's ever happened Yep That's fantastic So when you said it's a little thing we do It's like well kind of Now it's a thing we do

Bro I looked at them if you see me I'm like what do you do? I'm like you're ruining I'm just like I looked at I'm like what you just said some random work You got edit this shit out That was great Hold on bug

What are we talking about? I have no idea The last time your birthday was on Friday 13th was 2010. So I was on Trent's Logic, where it was like every seven years. So I'd write to 2014 and it wasn't on Friday 13th. Yeah, the Leapier fucks it up. Leapier does a four-day edition. So it's still four-year edition?

Since 2010. 2010 was the last time. So you really go every 11 years then kind of thing? I don't know math, but I was just saying that. Okay. I was in 11th grade. Because I was hoping it had happened. Oh, wait.

When was last time it happened? If I was in high school. Weird. All right. So I'll live it up. I'm excited for band. I actually won't be living it up. I have to go to a fucking wedding rehearsal dinner on my birthday.

They had the balls. That's good. And you know where it is? I'm happy. You know where it is? You know where it is? Borelli's. Okay.

So that's where I'm going that night. But it should be fun. I'm very excited. Are you? No, I'm going. I'm in the wedding party. Oh, okay. At Borrellys.

It's going to be fun, though. We have a steel drum band that night. It's good for the business. Yeah. for the business. I love it. We have a steel drum band that night. We were like kind of a weird combo to have an Italian restaurant. My dad's like, wait until you see these people. They are fucking outrageous. And this, this, I don't know if it's a husband and wife or whatever, but they set up outside

and they sing songs that you couldn't believe how good they are. Motown, classic rock. And the guy's hitting, he's got a little bit of a steel drum band mixed to it. That's happening that Friday. Do you open up the outside for that as well? Yeah, that's outside. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. All right. Cool. Simply safe.

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Now, I'm a little bit upset because I'm looking at their fucking website and it says Rider Cup 2020. No. That's unfortunate. Does it say that within the logo or does it say that within the URL? Yeah, it says the logo. Unlike the, you go to ridercup.com. It's got a countdown clock, Rolex clock, 48 days, 12 hours, 7 minutes, 56 seconds. And then it says Rider Cup 2020 in the corner.

That's a joke. It's a fucking joke. You lost 2020. You didn't win. You didn't overcome. You didn't defeat it. We all lost. We all fucking lost 2020.

We were locked down. We weren't able to go out. We weren't able to attend events. There was no Rider Cup. It did not happen in 2020. It has to say 2020. We were there too for an early promotional event, and we got 2020 Rider Cup gear,

and I wanted that to kind of just live. But now if it's just the 2020 Rider Cup, that's why everybody's going to have it. I bet you that's why they keep it, too, man. Because the merch was already done. That's like so little amount. It's like my shirt that I have that says Bart Stool Sports on the back of it.

That's like a cool keepsake from everything that happened. Like you said, it's almost a little ode to the pandemic year and the memory. And I was kind of remembering that all of that happened. Everything's just going to say 2020. So when they cut back from a commercial, is it going to be like, Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-Rider Cup, 20-2020-logos going to pop up. Yes, they've been saying that during the Olympics.

They're going to put that on the screen. What's it going to say in the channel guide? When you click on it, is it going to say the 2020 Rider Cup? Because that's, that's a good question. That's wrong. Dude, they've been doing that with the Olympics, man. They say, we are live from the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. It's crazy.

You just got to be, we all have to be adults and call it the year that it actually is. It's almost over. 2021 is over. Not even close to 2020. 2020 is. We're closer to 2022 by a landslide than we are 2020. And by the time this Rider Cup starts, it'll be, it'll be 2022, essentially. You know, I'm upset.

I'm upset. Who do we have to? talk to Sethwa. It's got to be something with like the signage. You know what it is?

It's got to be something with the signage and and the low and all the logos everywhere, the, the uniforms, all that stuff, you know,

the merchandise. Just get new signage. I know. Double the price, I guess. Signage.com. Just get new shit. Seriously.

You know what would even be better if you just walked around with a marker and you just crossed it out and wrote one next to it. I agree with that. Like, like, Seth Waugh actually went up with a fucking red marker and was like one.

Or you just... One. One. Right. You don't cross out the 20-20. You just go over the zero. You just put the one over and people are like, yeah. That's just what happened.

Yeah. You could take it my one now? I would add a little hat to it in the floor. No, I just think of like correcting a paper when you've already printed it out and says like you would say zero. You just put one on just that outrageous amount of ink. Yeah. Like if you had to do this, would you just do a line straight down or would you,

Would you fluff it up a little bit and throw a little sauce on there and add the little hat? I think for something like this you got to add the hat and the feet. Yeah, okay. Yeah. You can't just go straight down because then it becomes like, it looks like, what is it that? What is it in Harry Potter, that thing where it's like the circle, the line? It's the tri-w wizard. Oh, God.

Oh. It's the, the Deathly Hollows. No, the Deathly Hollows. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, is that the Deathly Hollow sign? Yeah. It's a triangle, the circle, and the one in the middle. Yes.

Yeah. It's just, yeah, I don't know. It's a fucking, you're looking at the deadly hells. There it is. You see that. That's what I'm talking about. You can't see that, Rick. I'm sorry.

You can't see anything. Shout to Harry Potter. I believe you. I know. Two Harry Potter references by me today. Have we talked on this very show about how great TSA precheck is? Yeah. We thought, I think we talked about it at four students.

Was that on the show or was that? I'm almost positive. I was on the show because I was talking, it's like easy pass. for airports. Yeah. If you blend that with clear, clear, and it's like boom, boom, you're just to the front. Yeah, because I, this is my new thing. People were telling me to get clear too, and I'm like double seven of fucking air traffic.

One of the early Frankie Lurch competitions was there was a line at an airport, and I saw you stuck in it. And I just went right up to the clear counter, bought access or whatever it cost me, and then just beat you inside. No, I have clear. You weren't using that day then. Yeah. You did?

Yeah. I don't have clear. Yeah, no, I've always shoved my clear right up your guys' asses. Seriously. Totally. Every time. And then one time I remember, and normally you do, you shove it right at my ass. But one time I sent you a picture of a line that I was in and you hadn't gotten to the airport yet.

And you were like, ha, you fucking suck. And then they didn't have clear. And it's, I felt great. Yeah. You were behind me. Every time I get through it, I'll just text, try and be like, you guys need anything. Like, you guys need any water. I'm just going to grab breakfast while you guys wait online.

I don't know if I want others to get it. Because if everybody starts getting it. How hard is it to get TSA project? He said it's pretty easy. It's unbelievably easy. It's not even, I used to think it was a meeting. It's not even a meeting. You show up.

They just like take your fingerprints. You wait five minutes maybe while they just do paperwork and shit that people do. And then you leave and they email you within a few days and you just get a known traveler number. And then what's a joke about it is that you, like, they don't even really check you at security. You just like. You don't take. They're like, Nothing.

Yeah, Riggs, we met you a few years ago. You're like for the next five years, you basically can just get on any plane that you want. You don't take any shoes. You don't take anything out of your backpack. It's amazing. So you can't do this the morning of a flight, right? It's got to be a couple days in advance.

I would say the process to be safely, it's about a week. Can you do this at the DMV or can you only do this at the airport? I bet you can do it at the DMV. No, I didn't do it at the airport. You go to these like registered locations, like identity locations. And you go there,

Riggs is taught like it's not a meeting at all you just tell them your information they're like is there any like rejection processes they're like probably not you'll have it I think their disclaimer says that it could be 30 to 60 90 days and I was like is that real and then they're like no usually you get it within like a few days how about some lady the other day save me I roll in I'm flying like southwest out of Phoenix and the line to check in for southwest was probably a hundred people and I just didn't have that much time And some lady came walking right by me and just goes, hey, there's no line outside on the curb. He's check your bags.

It takes one second. I was like, what? Walked outside. Hand of the guy, five bucks, checked my bags in probably 30 seconds. Then he put my known travel number on my thing, too. I was in security man, maybe two and a half minutes after that lady said that, I was like at the gate ready to rock. It was insane. Those people outside, they don't work for the airline, though.

That's like a privatized group, I feel like. Like, when I look at the labels on. They work for a lot. Right. I know. But I don't really understand. How that works. I was in two seconds.

Totally great. It was a, she just saved me, big time. Yeah, it's like, it's like mandatory tip out there. Like, you have to give them five bucks or something like that. So there's nothing. Might be worth a hundred bucks. Oh, no, totally. There's nothing similar to TSA pre-check or clear for checking your bags.

They haven't come out with that yet? No. Curbside check in. The baggage process is always, feels wrong. Especially for golfers, man. Sometimes, like, that is what makes you miss a flight or really, you know, people just like, Like, I've been grinding to make a flight before, and then you get stuck behind these international, like, flight families that are like, they're going back to wherever or they're coming from wherever. And they are, they have their whole house on one of those little trolley things.

And you're like, I can't believe you're checking these many bags behind you. There's got to be something I can pay for to get some sort of express line to just drop my golf bag on and just be on my way. Well, they have a little terminals. But if there's no terminal, then, like, some airports don't, then you're screwed. You can go there, print your thing out and just drop it in it back. True. I was behind some family check. They were checking boxes.

Yeah, it's nuts. I was like, what is? This isn't FedEx. Like, we're trying to go to a fucking destination here. You could be allowed to do that shit. It was unbelievable. Feels like a security risk. I was flagging them left and right.

Hello. I've got to get pre-check. I can't have you have a better, like, like, like, flight line experience than me. It's amazing. Now, I'm sure Riggs actually, I don't know, Riggs, but we were talking about status. Now I have, like, status on all these airlines because I'm just buzzing around.

And so the experience is... See, I haven't looked into that. I have, like, a Delta card, and I feel like we fly so much Delta, and I'm some sort of, like, silver medallion person. Like, I don't know what that gets me. I got to talk to Delta and be like, what does this get me? I got... United and American, I got really good.

Like, I did that day trip last week to Vegas, and I got upgraded to first class on the way. What does that mean? Did you have to... I just bought an economy ticket and you just see your name in the app and it just skyrockets to the top. That's insane. And then they just say like promote it to like 7E or whatever it is. That's nuts. It's the best experience.

See, I got to get on that. I'm leaving a lot on the table, I feel like. Oh, tons on the table. It's... When they start treating you like that, it's really nice. You got a card on file in case you want like a little snack because you need a little food. It's very... You become a member.

It's like a club. Love clubs. Clubs are sweet. That they are. That they are. All right, boys. Anybody got anything else for me? Are we ready to put a ball on this fucking thing here?

I know you're at Aaron Hills. I'm excited to get there. I'm going this weekend for my dad's 70th birthday. COVID, too. Wow. 70th birthday was last year? Tell me you're calling it a 70th birthday. No, it's a 71st birthday.

Okay. Okay, because that's a whole show. The whole show. You get a COVID year. I don't know. I don't think we can do that. after what the fucking rider cup saying. Right.

The Olympics. You're celebrating his. It's 71st birthday. It's a 70 first birthday. On the cake, you better not write 70. No. No. We're not doing it.

Happy birthday, Bruce. I am glad you brought that up because we're here. When people are listening to this, we'll be doing the Barstow Classic Tuesday. Every year we like to, you know, slide in a couple special stops. We did Chambers Bay, Aaron Hills this year. Again, this is top five golf spot for me in the world. I love Aaron Hills. Lurchy, I hope you guys have fun.

Happy birthday to Brucey. And then a big thanks to Newport National. We were out there this past weekend with a bunch of our kind of Boston and, like, New Hampshire crew that Lurch and I know from a long time ago, him longer than I. And we back night band, it's Lurch is our captain. This was the 10th annual. First year or two wasn't an official competition. We're eight and one all time.

Yeah, really good. Congrats. So nobody knows the score of year one. And that was kind of the kickoff. we had eight guys on this trip now it's pretty much been 20 every year since then but i will say to go along with the earlier point of the show of what you should do focus on your golf game take a lesson go from there plan a buddy's trip if you don't have one and just make it a yearly cadence because this thing's been going on for 10 years and so now it takes priority

over things and like the gals the wives they respect it i don't have one of those but they everybody else the show comes on like no it's like this is part of your year year you're going to be gone for this weekend. So yeah, thanks to Newport National was an awesome, awesome experience up there. I love the town of Newport paying for it today, but it was a great trip. Next up on my agenda, I'm going to roll out to dinner at Aaron Hills,

and then we're going to have a little putting contest, myself, Zach, Ian, Nick, Justin, and crew, Zaz here, Jay Bass is here on the Drumlin putting course right over by, you know, the main clubhouse. So that's next. big putting tournament tonight. Fantastic.

Awesome. Absolutely fantastic. Place looks incredible. I got a message from one of my buddies, Kyle. It's just like, he's, I think you guys met Kyle. Yeah. And he, uh, just like, how does Riggs get from course to course? I just, every day on Instagram, he was at Aaron Hills, Newport National, Aaron Hills.

If you're just casually viewing his Instagram stories, you just, it's like he's a wizard. It's crazy. You're just popping up all over the place. I mean, those are not easy places to get to. like all like Aaron Hills back and Aaron Hills is not an easy trek. Did you catch a flight to Milwaukee from Providence or where'd you fly into? I flew Providence to Chicago drove two hours last night up from Chicago. So you can kind of hear my voice has been grinding all day.

It's a small price to pay. But I do, Frankie, I'm aware of the wizardry outward appearance and I try to kind of curate it that way because I I know people were casually looking at the story and they gotta just be popping it up going like like Whitney Whitney responded to it was just like you're fucking back there already how did that happen insane I was trying to like do you think you're playing better golf consistently like course wise than anyone in the world better than anyone in the world better than anyone on the pGA tour right you gotta think they're stuck at the same court like super rich successful dudes that only belong to like pine valley and like seminal that are giving me a run for

my money, but probably pretty close. I think that might be the best question you've ever asked. Because when I think about it, I can't think of anybody else that honestly is even close. He, you blow PGA tour players out of the water. With the, like, status of courses you're playing on a, on a regular basis. He's not, and he's not just traveling around, like, one spot where you're just kind of, like, might be bad. You're just going to golf destinations. Destination.

World class. You get one of them in your life. This trip with my pops, like, this is, like, the one trip he's ever done, like, in his life. Like, he's played local, you know, courses. Actually, he did one trip to Scotland with his buddies, but he hasn't done that in 10 years. And Riggs is just, oh, yeah, I played that last last, I'll play that tomorrow. It's crazy. Let's just go through the gin app, just the last, like, 20 scores.

This will bring people to the school. Oh, wait a minute. I got to go watch The Bachelorette. As much as I want to hear about all those courses, I got to go watch the Bachelor. He is squirming over here. He's got to get over. All right, all right. I love you.

I love you. Congratulations. You guys. Way to go. We'll talk about you a little bit. Okay. That's fine. No problem.

My last, just I'll read him. Just put a, again, kind of wrap up this conversation. Aaron Hills, Newport National, Newport National, Aaron Hills, Whistling Straits, Aaron Hills, Bailey Farms, Forest Dunes. You might want to stop because this is getting ugly. Forest Dunes Black, Forest Dunes Red, Grand Traverse Resort, the Bear Course, Belrieve Country Club, Liberty National Golf Club, Liberty National Golf Club. Missouri Belafs Golf Club, Lake Forest, which is St. Louis, legend trail golf club out in Scottsdale, Montreau Golf and Country Club, Jack Nicholas Coors out in Reno, Nevada.

And then there's a bunch of, oh, Silver Leaf, which is a big Scotts. It's crazy. It's crazy. People are just trying to off you right. Cypress Point. Tahima, Pebble Beach, Torrey Pines South, Mesa Country Club, Greyhawk, Torrey Pines South, Olympic Club. Shout out to the people of Bailey Farms because, like, yeah. Awesome public track up there.

The only real golf course rakes has played in the last year. Valley Farns. Everything else fake. Right. Maybe a couple of St. Louis ones probably. Maybe Belri. I mean, that's world class. Yeah, Bel Air is like, yeah, isn't that one of the most exclusive clubs in all of like Missouri?

Yeah, it's exclusive as it gets in St. Louis. So, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, you're fucking killing it. You're killing that, that list is something, man. It is fucking something. I mean, our list isn't as, like, is it. Farless is incredible. Nothing to sneeze at.

But the consistency of play. Consistency is nuts. The dates. Because like we'll go back. Well obviously, Faris Dunes, Alup, et cetera. Right.

You'll see Newport National. But then you just, you drop in like two liberties. I guess you were there. Just like all these things. No, it's crazy. It just continues.

And then he throws in whistling straights. Just like, ho-hum didn't even like brush over. Cypress was the best one. And I'll be a bunch of these like pretty cool public tracks in Scottsdale that I go play to like film the rigs verse videos. I just skipped over when I was reading all.

Right. Right. Right. No, that's impressive, man. The question has to drumlin and enjoy yourself at Aaron Hills because that place is so bad. I do think you're number one in the world for best golf consistently this year, for sure. 2021, you have to be number one. I would say, go near Juneette, take a screenshot and send it.

No one's even close. You'll get messages of like, like you said, 15 rounds in a row at Pine Valley. But like, what does that even mean? Like, you're playing the same golf course every single day. Right. Right. Like, you're not throwing in a whistling straight to cypric or pebble beach. Like, you're not throwing.

and you're not tossing those hats into the ring. I like to be in the golf courses. It's really, it's fantastic. I want to apologize to the 55-year-old man that I got chippy with at my roller hockey game last night. I don't think you have to apologize for that, based on what I heard. You know, it was just one of the scenarios in which, like,

we were just faster and better than this older team who's clearly been playing together forever. And this one defenseman, this older man, who was clearly just the big old guy on the team, when he got beat to like the front of the net or if someone beat him around like his move was to like hook you or push you and really dig into like your hip and it's roller hockey man i was just like dude like i want to score goals i don't want to score goals that much like you got to stop like touching me like this is nuts it's it's fucking hockey like we're trying to go to work tomorrow like what are you doing at it just because i'm beating you like you're getting angry um and then one time he did it and i just like slashed him on top of his skate and like dug my stick into the back of his roller skate And he, like, looked at me. He goes, you little torp, like, and I was like, oh, the big bullies, like, coming after me again. Oh, everyone watch out.

And I probably said something fucking stupid to him. He goes, I'm a big old man out here. I was like, you're playing like one. And everyone was like, ooh. And, you know, it got a little chippy. But then, you know, after the game, we gave each other knucks. And it was on its way. But that was my first time really, like, you know, I felt like the heart kind of flutter because he was looking over me down at me.

I'm like, dude, this is a fucking grown-ass man. Like, this guy's got, like, grandpa strength. He's going to murder me. Frankie with another goal and two apples, though. Yeah, no, I'm playing hockey right now. How bad is your league? It's not bad. It's not bad.

We actually lose most of the game. You've never played hockey before and your leading score. I got to get someone to send video. Like, yeah, 15 games played 15 points. That's so stupid. I'm a point per game player. But also, like, guys on my team have, like, like, 30. No, like, a guy will only show up to, like, three or four games, and he'll have, like,

11 goals. Like, yeah, I'm, like, higher than him. Got it. But, like, they just don't make as me. Like, there's significantly better players on our team than me. I'm just finding a way. I'm not trying to take, I, yeah. I'm finding the net.

I'm finding the net. Somebody's like, I never played golf before on the low scoring average of my golf league after, like, 10 rounds. Everybody would be like, well, who the fuck are you playing against? Like, like, I've played hockey. I played all my life, like, playing on the street and we would go to outdoor rinks. And, like, I just never played a uniform game. where, like, I was on a team. We had to legitimately, like, follow the rules of the league.

Like, we would play for hours upon hours upon hours, upon hours, all my life growing up in the street or outdoor roller hockey rink. So it's fun to finally play where, like, when you score, like, the buzzer goes off and, like, the score goes on the scoreboard. Like, I'm finally, like, finding my stride in, like, men's league hockey. I wish I could transfer that to ice, but I don't know if that's in my future. What's been the biggest improvement in your game? Is it fine?

Is it fans or is it skating? Well, getting better players on our team where, like, They now – You know? No, like, they just make things happen. And I, because I've watched so much, I know the – baking shots off you in the net. No, I know, like, the places to go.

Like, last night, it was, like, the first goal of the game. This guy, Nick, took it in on the left side. He had so much speed. Shot it right off the goalie, and I found my way in front of the net, lifted the defender's stick and roofed it right over the goalie's shoulder. Like, a nice rebound into the right side of the net. Like, that's a nice goal. But I obviously couldn't take that puck from end to end, bring it around the defender

because I don't have that in me. but I have like, I knew to follow him and find his little garbage, you know, I find the garbage, I clean up the garbage. It's sick. You got a nose for the net. You got a nose for the net. You got a nose to the net. I got a nose, man. It's fun. I got a game tomorrow night. I'm fucking jack. I love it. Absolutely jack. Sometimes you get a fun men's league. There's nothing better. You look forward to the games. You're like done with work. It's like, it's almost like you're a kid again. Oh, yeah. And you've got like, oh, no, heart pumping.

Right. Right. Three three game going to the third. You're like, I'm going to murder or something. Dude, Brendan knows. Roller hockey on Long Island gets really serious. It's like a hot, it's like a low-key hotbed. Do you know this league? I know where he plays, Skatesifer. Yeah. Not to blow up. Well, maybe he's going out of film.

Yeah, yeah, I've been. I would love to see some footage you coming out of fun. Bro, he's got buddies that, like, are legitimately pros at roller hockey. Right. Like, like, the Tiefenworths. Yeah, yeah. Shout out, wow. Shout out.

Tiffonworth. Tiffinworth. Shout out. KJ. Who was a really good hockey player. I think his family also started this triangle stick. I don't know what that means. There was a triangle stick.

Yeah, I remember that. The shaft was like a triangle. I mean, I'm a goalie and so are you. Right. I never use it. But yeah, I'm weird as fun. Dude, shout out Ebug. We played at, so we did the Barstow Classic.

We ended this podcast. I know, whatever. We did the Barstow Classic. And we played obviously with like Anders Lee, Brock Nelson. We had Vinny LaTerry and Brady Shea was perfect. But like all the guys that couldn't have said better things about you. It was crazy. Brock asked me for like your Instagram handle.

Yeah, he's just like. Go to the end. Yeah. Why? Because from being EBA. Just like hanging out. Yeah, just like he was talking hockey with them. You knew some of like their, like you knew some of the guy's friends from hockey

and like they were talking to him about hockey. Like when did he start playing hockey? When did he start with? I mean, they couldn't. I didn't tell him that I was there either. No, I never told him that. Me neither. You know, actually I should tell them that.

That's nuts. Like one day he might never. Well, it just sucks that they never invited you to like play during the practice. I feel like some ebugs get invited to go play during practice. Since day one, that's not the only reason, but that's the main reason why I wanted to do it. Right. To skate like one of those bullshit daytime skates that the starter doesn't want to be in. Right.

And just get lit up. Right. Or even like work on a guy that's like rehabbing. Right. Sometimes you go out of there. Crosby coming back, taking a buck up the skate and just ripping him while I buy this like e bug. It just goes down into the bottom. That's what I used to do.

I used to go to the Islander's Iceworks and watch the guy's rehab. Kyle Okposo was rehabbing from that eye injury. It's called a shooter tutor. And he used to just rip on this goalie. The guy was at Iceworks just getting ripped on by Kyle Lachposo. It was like the coolest thing ever. Yeah, I wouldn't care. That's what I want to do.

When I found out it wasn't part of the gig, I was like, shit. Yeah. I guess I'll go to smile at the game. That's what you get for Lula Marelle. He's not bringing in anyone. True. I wish we could do something with those guys. It's so fun.

Dude, they haven't even announced one of their signings yet. It's nuts. Kevin Hayes DM me the other day when I said the tomato juice is like the best drink or whatever. And he was like, that's just wrong. Yeah. And then we just started going back and forth. I was like, you know, actually we played against each other in high school. He was like, no fucking weather.

Really? Like, Gimble Union. Yeah. I mean, they let it me up for six or something like that. Did he score on you? I think so. Who's the highest profile guy to ever score on you? Yandel.

Jack Eichael. You? Jack Eichael? At what level? Overtime game winner, Junior B. What? Crazy. That's good.

The highest profile person I've scored on was two goals against Jonathan Quick in prep school. That's legit. That's legit. Avon Old School Farms. That's a success story, too. Ours is a failure. Yours is like I scored. Ours is, yeah.

What were the goals? Do you remember them? Yeah, it was a Saturday night game. Avon Old Farms lost, I think, three hockey games in two years. They won like back-to-back New England prep school titles. They had like Augie DeMarzo. They had Backman. They had all these guys on their team.

And it was a Saturday night game at Joe. We were down two nothing going into the third. I had an assist on the first goal and then scored the second and third goals for us to win three-two on home ice. It was. No way. Diabolical. It's making me want to get in a men's league again. God.

So badly. So bad. First one. Anything better than a competitive team sports? What was the goal? How did you score it? First one, my boy Rents, who went to Harvard as well, we played hockey together. He was coming down the right wing with the puck.

And there was like, you know, the two D men, he had a sick play. He caught right across the middle and dropped it. And I was coming from the left side, center eyes, towards the boards. And the D got kind of caught up and both focused on him. So he dropped it. I grabbed it, pulled it around the D. and then came in on my forehand just waited, waited, waited for quick,

went all the way to the goal line and just roofed it and then like jumped into the crowd and then second goal was with maybe a minute and 30 seconds left and our D-man shot it from the point I screened it, rebound came like to the bottom of the circle and I just whacked at a backhander that kind of fluttered over his glove

like off the cross bar and in and we just went crazy. Amazing. I love those stories. We went crazy. How close you were? just playing with the best players in the world, like actually beating them at the sport. Jack Echle was 16 and I was like 19 or 20. Ripping shots by you. I mean, he was just better than everybody on the ice.

Dude, the best part about the quick story is 10 days later, Avon beat us 8-0 at home. Yeah, they get the better laugh at the end of the day. You play those guys in seven, it's over. Totally. We got them that funny. Not tonight. I had a baseball coach, JV.

Chris Kozlowski's his name. I think he's a police officer now, Kaz. I have such a great history with this guy, hilarious stuff. And I remember he used to tell the story. He was in the Yankee, or he was in one of the minor league, in the minor leagues for one of the teams, maybe the Blue Jays. And I remember he talks about he faced Derek Jeter in spring training and how that was like, all right, like this is my moment.

Like I'm in spring training. I'm a minor league baseball pitcher. Like now is the time to fucking nut up and shut these people up. like I'm a pitcher and I remember he was saying like I'd have to get the full great story from him but there's something about the catcher he had he had Jeter like oh two like and the catcher was like asking for a change up and like he wanted to throw a fastball and he waved him off a couple times and they ended up stepping off and then the catchers like throw the change up or and he throws the change up and jeter hits like one off the wall and then the next at bat like the guy hits a double and the run scores and all of a sudden it's like you're looking back at your career and you're like It just didn't work out, but, like, could you have struck Derek Jeter out? Like, what happens there? If you blow a 92 mile an hour fastball by him, like, is everyone like, oh, fuck? So there's this hockey tournament, Floodmar.

It's big prep hockey, and I just came off like a... And I apologize if I got that wrong, because if you're listening to this, but you'll have to tell me the story and maybe I'll react. I come up like a big junior year. Like, close it out, I stopped 52 or 53 at St. Paul's. Close up. I was like, dude, I'm like good, I think, maybe. Next year starts up. we go to NMH, same thing.

51 of 52, we're going into Flood Mar and I'm like, dude, I'm going to be like, somebody might talk to me here. And then we play Nobles and like actually Hayes and that team just ended my career. First period, zero zero. And I remember there was 21 pucks against me. Like they had Mark Fane, they had the Hayes brothers. They had a bunch of good kids up in Nobles. And periods two and three, they had six goals.

So then, like, when you ask, like, did he score? It's like, probably. Probably. And then it just, you know, faded into podcasting and tech sales. God damn. It's funny. It is. It's fun to play against those guys growing up.

Yeah. I mean, I told the story about Yandall, Rippet one over my shoulder. Can't handle Yandall, scraping ice after like, just some humbling times. Amazing. Now, he's back in Philly with Hayes. That's going to be a dangerous duo out there after the city of Philadelphia. My goodness. We had them on the Rangers for a half second.

Yeah. It's just amazing that the Rangers couldn't see. see how good that locker room was and they blew it up. Yeah, we just overpaid the players of that time. Ryan McDonough, man. Stapps was overpaid. Ryan McDonough makes $6.5 million. It's insane that he's not the captain of the Rangers.

It's insane he's not the captain of the Rangers. That guy has won two Stanley Cup. He's the best player on the ice almost at all times when he's on. Now you guys got Ryan, now you guys got Ryan Reeves to try and fight Tom Wilson. They traded a third rounder for game one opening night. It's just crazy. It should be exciting, though.

Right. It'll be good year. Who knows? I'm excited when hockey comes back. It's a great sport. Love it. Good luck in your roller hockey game, Frankie. Thank you. Thank you. And congrats on kind of the instant success with roller hockey. Oh, thank you. I would say you having 15 points in 15 games is stunning. Yes. It is.

Now, we've never won a playoff game, so that's the next hurdle. We lost. I was out. What's the team's record? So last season, I think we played like eight games in a season or nine games in season. I think we went like. How you said you have 15 points in 15 games? Well, I missed a lot. We travel a lot. I've missed a ton of games.

I've only played two seasons. So this is my third season. So I've probably missed like half the games. So every season is eight games. Like eight games or something like that. So you're 15 to 24 kind of point. Yeah, something like that. But yeah, we're usually like four and five or something like that.

Maybe three and six. We're really, we get rolled most of the time. You're scoring and your team's like kind of winning. It's not like you guys are like two to eight ones. Getting good players in Men's League hockey makes a massive difference. Like I noticed when I first started, like we've got, We have good players, but now we've added these two kids that can just fucking rip. Like, they connected on a one-timer that went, like, bar down from the dot, and everyone was like, wait a minute.

Like, that was a real hockey play. It's like having those guys makes us better. We don't want your kind here with that. Like, that stuff makes me better because now I don't have to do as much shit. Like, I'm not taking the puck over the fucking. Like, you saw the guy with speed on the outside. Speed on the outside. No.

Yeah, it's so much more fun. So our team was horrible up in Boston, mens like, I played out because I played goalie growing up. but there was a goalie that kind of refused a playout, so I played in goalie skates. I was terrible, but the league was pretty good. First year we would get absolutely waxed. And then we brought on rigs, who's a good player, obviously.

And then another buddy from Harvard is kid Biaga, who's like arguably a world-class hockey player. Like, I mean, the way he sees the ice is right, he's just really good. So we went from never scoring to the NFL player. His brothers are both. Alex Beaga? Yeah.

And so Mike was his stud, really just like Bud Light's more. Kevin Beaga? Oh, whatever. No, there's Danny. That's Kevin Gieska. Bigger thing about. Al-Biaga, though,

played with him out in Vancouver and then he's right, yeah. So Riggs obviously played with him at Harvard. Alex Biego was my roommate in college and then his younger brother, Mikey, became my roommate in Southie

when we lived there after school. Arguably the most talented hockey-wise of all of the brothers and like the only one that never even considered playing pro. And he's just... They say that about the Mannings, right? Wasn't like Archie...

Wasn't one of the Manning supposed to be the best quarterback when he got hurt. Yeah, what's his name? Cooper. Cooper was supposed to be a really good receiver. Yeah, he was supposed to be the best player. That's funny. And look, like Al-Biaga has been playing in the NHL for like 10 years.

He's, you know, making good money. He's like a role guy's locker room guy. Like, they're the best family ever. But we always would just laugh because like Mikey Beaga, who played on our men's league team that Lurch is talking about, he's so unbelievably sick at hockey. It's crazy. And he would just show up and light up these men's league games. And, yeah, our team just, our team was sick.

To one point where, like, I'm playing a goalie skate, so I can barely see. I don't move fast. I can't turn sharp. And, like, these guys are good. I would usually play defense because, like, I've got pretty good body control. So I would just kind of, like, push people around. And I was definitely, like, the most hated player in the league. You were that guy that I had to deal with the other night.

Just pushing me because I was fashion than him. So then. He's playing long stick, like lacrosse on an ice hockey. It's pretty much. I would just, like, one time it was a one-on-one. I just took the puck square into the corner, just held it for my team to get a chance. So, anyways, they were like, Lurch.

Yeah, and Biake started calling me Lurch because I played goalie skates, right? It couldn't move around. I was all rigid. And so that's how I picked up the name. Anyways, so then he, like, on PowerPlays, if we were way up, he'd just be, like, stand in front of the net, and that's what I said, did they just bank it off you? Because I literally just stood there, and he was like, just put your stick down, and I'm just going to see if I can get your goal.

And I just did it, and it almost worked, but it never actually did. So good that a hockey player gave you that nickname. because they're just the funniest people. Oh, they're great people. Hockey locker rooms. I support every kid playing hockey. How funny was Lattery that day on the golf course? I don't even know half the things he was saying,

and it didn't even make sense. The funniest, Briggs on here has C.T. Pan wins, and he was calling you C.T. Pan all day that day. Oh, yeah, was no T.C. Chen, because I double hit. He just goes T. T.C. Chen immediately, once I double hit an iron. Call it. Every time Brock Nelson would hit one a little bit too left, he'd go, there goes the drone. And, like, we don't even know what that means.

He goes, the drone's back, and you see this ball just flying over the trees, and we would die every single time. Tony Hawk got me. Tony Hawk is the best. Every time there's a huge slope on the back of the green, you go, you need to go Tony Hawk Pro Skater off the back of this thing. Use this ramp. So good.

The beauty. I mean, like, hockey locker room is honestly the best place. You see what they do in Minnesota, the Beauty League? Yeah. They have like, Giannre Miller, like, going end to end on, like, men's league guys or, like, low-level college guys. It's, like, the funnest league of all time to watch. You're back to golf.

That's, like, why I was so frustrated. in the last rider, like when they like look at our like the golfers, like the American guys that were just like dejected and not like the spirited hockey guy. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? It was like we need we need a couple of any Latteras in the locker room playing US. Dude, we talked to Trevor Zegris on the show last week and I mean he won the world juniors for United States in Canada. Like imagine that locker room. Like that's the kind of pride and that's the kind of effort we need to see from our teams.

We can't have what happened in France at the Ryder Cup anymore. You can't have that happen anymore. That can't happen. You can't get killed. It's an energy going. I know, we're going to get killed if that happens. It's like we're jealous of what they do on the European side and how cool their whole teams are because they're all jell on their boys.

They're like a hockey shop. We're like a comedy show, honestly. The two of those guys were like a comedy show. They were like sleeping together. I think they slept in the same bed the whole fucking week. Nuts. Bullshit. All right.

We went an extra like 30 minutes there. I think that's good. Yeah, you missed dinner and now you got to maybe catch them on the putting course. Life can be worse. I'm just fucking, yeah. We're doing all right. Right. You idiots,

about anything. Shit. All right. Hit it hard. I live my glory days in high school, scoring on Jonathan. Yeah, I think people find that pretty interesting.

You guys have played against cool guys and cool names and stuff. I don't think anyone's ever heard that stuff. I haven't. I'm going to go eat dinner. All right. Hit it hard, boys. Hit it hard.