Fore Play - U.S. Open Week 2017 w/ Steve Elkington

Episode Date: June 13, 2017

On this episode of Fore Play the boys prep for the U.S. Open at Erin Hills. They discuss getting roasted by Howard Stern, Riggs going viral over the weekend, Kevin Na's Instagram video plus more. Also..., reoccurring guest Steve Elkington comes on the show to talk course conditions, his opinions on Phil missing the Open and his take on Tiger Woods!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:01:09 Join by my friend Trent. What's up? We got a big week this week. It's U.S. Open Week. We got a lot to talk about. The boys have been in the news since the last time we were on the show. We sure have. Been up and down in the news.
Starting point is 00:01:21 We have our first recurring guest. No, well, Will Cox has been on a couple times. But we got Elk, Steve Elkinton back on. Yep. And this is going to shock everyone out there. He was fantastic. He was fantastic. He's an animal.
Starting point is 00:01:35 He is a very funny man. He tells you what he thinks. Not afraid of anything. Knows his shit. Yeah, he's down at Aaron Hills right now. So he walked the course this morning. Gave us some good feedback on what to expect out there. So look forward to that interview later in the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:50 He talked to some of the guys. He told us about a couple conversations he's had with Stevie Williams this week. Has some interesting opinions on Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods, the whole deal. He was curious about Trent's ass after the Page Spragick video. He was. That made me feel good that he watched that video. That's very cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Does that mean he has the Barstool app? Yeah. Or, you know, his son's a big shout to Sam, too. Yeah. Who's a big, a good friend of ours and a big stool and all that. So maybe he showed it to him who knows. I don't think Elk knows how to, like, use the app and all that? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:02:22 It's amazing, though, because he always talks about his digital footprint that he's represents these golfers and stuff. So maybe he is pretty sneaky tech-dabby. Yeah, maybe I'm underselling how much he is in the, like, social media game. People can make their own, draw their own conclusions from the elk interview. Talk to him for about 20 minutes and very colorful, very good time. As always. But, yeah, we've got the U.S. Open this week, which is pretty much we want carnage.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We're going to get into some of that. Yeah. We had, so we'll kind of, I guess we'll go chronologically. You want to start? Where do you want to start with Stern? Last week we got pretty randomly ripped by Howard Stern. Yeah. And what I want to say, I don't, you think he's going to play this on the podcast on his episode
Starting point is 00:03:04 two? Probably not. I hope so. Yeah, so too. I wish he would say it by name. People were like, congratulations on getting ripped by Stern. Like that was a badge of honor. I guess that's a badge of honor that I don't know about.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I was never a huge Stern guy. So big week for us, he's the king of all media. That's his nickname. Is that his nickname? Yes. The king of something? The king of all media. That's his, wow.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, that's his specific nickname is King of All Media. He's a big fucking deal, yeah. Oh, I know he's a big deal. I didn't know that was actually his nickname. Yeah, I got a wild thing. I got so many people sent it to me like, King of All Media ripped you guys a new asshole. Again, which was fine. I think everything we said was pretty valid.
Starting point is 00:03:39 The argument against whether J.J.O. or Baba Booie should be the new thing is a pretty stupid argument in general. Both are kind of pretty stupid in general. I mean, if you're one of those annoying people yelling all the time at golf tournaments and stuff, I don't think you really care that much. like where or what you're yelling about. You're just kind of yelling. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, we got into it with Stern.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That was a good time. We got a lot of PR from that. We were on radio show. You know, we were doing all kinds of hot stuff. You're buzzing. It's always good when you're, you know, they're pulling us in a serious. We're on the rundown. Howard Stern's talking about you.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You're doing something right. Then when that happens. Yeah, I got really nothing against Howard Stern. I think we kind of agree. One of his producers probably just handed him that right beforehand. He was like, yeah, sure, I'll rip into these guys, whatever. I know for a fact that he forgot who we are, what we are and what we were trying to do, as soon as that segment was over.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Very much a professional, too, didn't mention us at all. Yeah. Nothing about our names, our podcasts, like nothing. Not a Trent, not a Riggs, not a four-play, not a barstool, not a nothing. Speaking of Barstool, four-plays presented by Barstoolsports.com, I always forget to say that. I think I forgot to say it again. That's okay. But staying in line with publicity and all that, I had something that I'll never, ever accomplish again,
Starting point is 00:04:49 which was a tweet that just had no. business going crazy viral and went beyond crazy viral. Yeah, this isn't necessary golf related, although it kind of is, I suppose, the way it's origin. But we like to talk about our weekends on this podcast. People seem to like when we do that. And you had yourself an interesting weekend. You want to walk people through it who they probably know already.
Starting point is 00:05:08 So I have myself a really interesting weekend that kind of culminates with the virality of everything that happened. But I played a member guest this weekend up at TCC, the country club up in Brookline, mass. very traditional classic U.S. Open has host or U.S. Open U.S.G.A. hosting course has hosted
Starting point is 00:05:29 most recently the U.S. Amateur in 2013. Also hosted the 1999 Ryder Cup that people much remember Justin Leonard for his putt on 17. I'm very lucky that a guy I went to school with. Shout out to my boy, Willie. I grew up in Brookline.
Starting point is 00:05:44 He's a Brooklyn guy. He's been a member since he was a kid. Nicest guy in the world. and like two years ago, he was on the wait list to get into this tournament. It's called The Squirrels. Cool name. I don't know if you were going to stop and admire that name because I wanted to. The Squirrels is great.
Starting point is 00:06:00 The gear that they give out at the Squirrels is great. I'm wearing a hat right now. Is that what that is? It's a very sexy hat. So it's a three-day event. Tons of golf on Friday they set up the course in U.S. Open style championship course that they don't always have because it's 27-hole track. So they usually do the main course, and they have another.
Starting point is 00:06:18 nine called the Primrose, but for the U.S. Open layout or the championship layout, they kind of combine a couple different holes and all that. So they set that up Friday. You play that. It's a grind. It's intense. It's very difficult to having the U.S. Open again in 2022. So anyways, tons of, I think we played about four rounds over the course of the weekend up there. Saturday morning, I am in the locker room and I'm getting ready, throwing on some sunscreen, hung over his balls. Yeah. throwing on some sunscreen and just one of my
Starting point is 00:06:50 buddies that I've gotten to know from three years in the tour he just kind of walks by gives me a little shit about putting on sunscreen just like oh you little bitch you little pussy putting on sunscreen I will say a lot of people thought it was me really who was chirping you I got chirped a bunch on Saturday because I have famously not wear sunscreen like when we're at the
Starting point is 00:07:07 masters I had the hat tan forever I still have it you still have a hat tag from your lack of sunscreen so a lot of people came with me like Trent you use sunscreen you're not a pussy view of sunscreen for the record it was not me I was It was not there. It was not you. Nope.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It was another guy who will go unnamed. But, yeah, he does that. I thought about it. I was like, oh, yeah, that's kind of, there's a tweet in there somewhere. Like somebody giving somebody else shit for wearing sunscreen. It's pretty a normal thing to do. It's like sunscreen. It's like you're trying not to get sunburnt and cancer and stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Anyways, I put the tweet out. The course has a no phone policy, which, you know, I try to respect. Can we stop there for a second? How do you go three hours without looking at your phone? as a blogger. Not that you, like, should be checking it because, like, oh, if the case something happens, just the anxiety of it all. I mean, occasionally in between holes and stuff, I'll check it.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But, I mean, it was a Saturday, so it was like I didn't have to check it because you can get away with a lot more as a blogger on, like, a Saturday. Sure. And, like, the anxiety's not there as much. And I was really into the matches, like, I know, you're kind of enthralled by the whole place. It's very historic. There's a lot of different, you know, historic golf moments that have happened to
Starting point is 00:08:12 different places. You're kind of, like, soaking everything in. Next thing, you know, it's like three hours later. I check my phone again in between. in holes, I got like 10,000 retweets or something. I was like, what? Yeah. Most I'd ever had was about 4,000.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Mm-hmm. And you're getting into all this petty stuff about, like, retreats on it, but that's like our life. I mean, that's our lifeblood. That's what we do. No, I heard you mention it to someone, I don't know if it was on camera on the radio where people act like we don't care about, or like people in this office, we care, act like we don't care about likes and retweets.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I fucking live for likes and retweets. Live for it. That's what I live for. KFC texted me. It was like, we fucking try to get this. traction nonstop every day for like eight years and you come in with this stupid sunscreen tweet yeah and not to take away from the tweet because it is funny but that's not the one you think is going to pop not at all not even close not even close and i would have never guessed it when i put it out there i was just like
Starting point is 00:09:01 yeah well you know pretty good you know a little sunscreen tweet kind of like the joke being the sun's the fucking sun like yeah it's basically you know the strongest most powerful thing imaginable it's extremely relatable everybody knows about the sun and so put that puppy out there and i mean now it's got like 130,000 retweets, almost half a million likes. It's almost like those numbers are so high that they're not even numbers anymore. Yeah, it's, it, my theory is it just, it got into some upper echelon, like, internet jet stream that people don't know about. And you can't, you just can't get into that. And somehow someone put it into that.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And once it was in it, dude, it fucking took off. The way this happens, I've, I've never had it happen in this level. This is the biggest barstle tweet. I've ever seen, and I've been around for a while now. But what always happens is it just takes one. It takes one, like, meme generating site or one semi-famous person. To put it into that jet stream? They put it in the jet stream.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You didn't look at your phone for a while, so you wouldn't see it happen in real-time. And by now it's buried so far. You have no idea. No idea where it started. But there is always one as soon as retweets, then you're in that jet stream. But you got into a jet stream that most presidents don't even get into when they tweet stuff. I was looking. I mean, I was even going through.
Starting point is 00:10:17 who, you know, Ariana Grande put out her big thing from when she did the Manchester concert like a week ago, which got like 80, 90,000 retweets. And I mean, think about how many people are retweeting that, how important that was. And my stupid tweet about sunscreen does 130K. It's like ridiculous. The retweets is clearly impressive. You've got about 430,000 likes. The likes are off the charts.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I can't even think about those numbers in terms of tweets. It gives me such joy that I did that. Like, I accomplished something. even though it's really like not. It wasn't like the, it wasn't like a groundbreaking tweet. It was like pretty good. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:53 That's the thing about it. You've, like you said before, you have probably put out tweets that you thought, here we go. This is the one that's going to like make you famous. How about Brett, office manager Brett,
Starting point is 00:11:03 the balls on that little fucker. He came up to me and was like, yeah, I saw it right when he tweeted. I didn't even retweeted or like it. I just scrolled right past it. I was like, fuck you, dude. How bad is your radar?
Starting point is 00:11:13 He's clearly the wrong one. There's 430,000 other people who were like, this is my tweet. How terrible is your taste in good Twitter? Idiot. Yeah. How long you be riding this high, you think? It's already kind of, you have looked at it, like, it finally ran out of steam this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It's never really going to run it seem. You're going to be getting a notification for that tweet for the next year. Well, I muted it. So they got this sweet relatively new feature where you can just mute all notifications on a tweet. So I don't get anything from it. I don't get replies. I don't get retweets. I don't get anything.
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's smart. Yeah. That's smart. If you ever need a dopamine rush, though, turn those notifications. notifications back on and be like, let's rip. You think that, yeah. Yeah. If, like, nobody texts me for a couple days and I'm feeling like a loser, I can just pop back on the
Starting point is 00:11:57 notification for that tweet. Boom. I'm viral again. You've got that option for the next six months because that thing's going to be rolling for a while. Yeah. So, it was a great weekend. Shout out to everyone at TCC at the Country Club. It's one of those places, you know, it's a very exclusive place.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's very historic. People would probably think, like, oh, it's stuff. The guys there are literally the nicest dudes in the world. And it really reminds you that pretty much no matter where you go on this planet, men are pretty much all the same. They just want to drink and play golf and pretty much talk about golf. Yeah. And have a good time and tell stories and be a little inappropriate in telling stories and, like, laugh at how dumb it is.
Starting point is 00:12:35 A little locker room talk. A little locker room talk. It's just like no matter where you go. No, yeah. That's what dudes are into. It really is true. That it will be true until the end of time. It'll be true forever.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And it was an awesome weekend. So shout out to that whole staff. They run an unbelievable operation. Shout out to my boy Willie for invite me. It's like who in the world gets invited that kind of tournament. Why would I get invited? Right. It's like all these legitimate people that have like legitimate careers and lives.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And then I'm like the idiot that smells in there. Hey, I'm a blogger. What's up? Yeah. But it was as as always, there are four play fans everywhere coming out of the pro shop. Oh yeah? Coming out of the pro shop. The caddies are coming out.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Everybody was, you know, super nice, super supportive. of big fans of the pod of Foreplay in general. So shout out to all those people. It was a good time. We also had our guy, Kip Henley's kind of back in the... In the news in a weird way. Yes. So we had Kip Henley on two weeks ago?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, I think it was two or three weeks ago. And he had recently split from Vijay Singh after the players, right? Yeah, and he was like basically Vijay was too mean to me. That was funny. I don't know if we ever talk about that. There was a funny moment where Kip Henley very quietly and very calmly said, basically said Vijay was too mean to me and I had to get the fuck out of there. Yeah, which I, you know, he's a very, you can tell he's a very,
Starting point is 00:13:46 he's a sensitive guy, sensitive guy, sensitive emotions on his sleeve type deal. Yep, which I love. Me too. Anyway, so he was on Braden Thornberry's bag this weekend at the St. Jude Classic, and that amateur, Braden made himself a run. He ended up tying for fourth in the tournament. He was in contention. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Young dude, obviously. And it was funny because when we had Kip on, you know, he was like, we're kind of asking, where are you going from here? What's the plan? He's like, you know, I'd love to get on the bag of some young stud. Well, it seems like he might be on the path here. Yeah, I wonder where they go from here. Because the catty player relationship is very strange as we learn from Kip.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So now is Kip Braden's guy? You know, who knows? It's funny, too, because people were kept tweeting him like, oh, how did you make any money this week? Kip, blah, blah. And Kip's like, well, no, 10% of nothing because the guy's an amateur is actually nothing. Is zero? blah blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And we looked it up. Braden Thorneberry would have made $240,000 this week. And, you know, then Kip would have made $24,000. That would have been nice. But you would think now you get repaid in some sort of loyalty. Maybe. Yeah, you would think so. Although the caddy world does seem quite fickle where Kip basically said if you're on one side of the green, like when they're practicing, you know, if you're on the wrong side, you might not get that guy.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You just get real lucky. You get very lucky. Yeah. So hopefully Brayden is the next big thing, and our guy, Kip, is the next big thing on the, on the bag. Huge Kim Henley guy right here. Huge. Gigantic. Huge.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So we also had Daniel Berger with the back-to-back wins at the FedEx St. Jude Classic. A quick nod to myself, who I wrote in the last week's preview. Daniel Berger will repeat this year. Don't ask me why. I just put that money down and collect. Have a motherfucking weekend, Riggs. I had a bunch of people shot me some tweets and said, thank you Rigsie with little screen grabs of their profits.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Always good. I believe that as much shit as people give me for being an idiot about golf, which sometimes is definitely true, I believe that's four winners I've picked this year. No way. Which I think is pretty fucking good. Yeah, that's very, very good. You know, what are we at? 20, a little over 20 weeks.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's a hell of a percentage. If that's it in golf, that's like. I mean, that's why we gave so much stocking of the Catfather early on. That's why we were all in on cap father. Right, because he got three in a row early on. Yeah, he got three. and I think four, but one before we started, like I started reading his DMs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So four is pretty good if that's how many you've picked. Love Daniel Berger, aka Tori Slater's boyfriend, getting the W. He seems like a beauty. He does. So, we should try to get on. Sunshine, try to get Daniel Berger on the show. Thank you. Butch Harmon had a hell of a quote.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. Oh, you might have to stall here while I look. I got it right here. So Butch Harmon went on some radio show. I blogged it on Friday. I'm not sure what it was. but he says, Butch Harmon says,
Starting point is 00:16:40 when Dustin Johnson goes to the first tee, he's got to take his balls in a wheelbarrow, which is just a fantastic quote. I love knowing and learning that behind the scenes, Dustin Johnson is the cockiest motherfucker in the world. Is that what we're learning? I mean, if he needs a wheelbarrow to carry his balls, that means his balls are so fucking big in his own mind, metaphorically,
Starting point is 00:17:04 that he needs a wheelbarrow for him. A wheelbarrel. Think about like, how big your nuts would have to be to fit into a wheelbarrel and not be like preposterous. Well, you'll hear during the Steve Elkington interview where he talks about how he can't believe how Dustin Johnson performed under that pressure at Oakmont last year. Right. With the stroke penalty and all that. Yeah, which was, you know, that was kind of the moment everybody thought of, all right, DJ's breaking through.
Starting point is 00:17:29 The floodgates are open. It did. And he did what he win three in a row at the beginning of the year. Yeah. Then he fell down some stairs. I did see somebody, I don't know if this is completely. horse shit, but somebody tweeted me that there's like 72 stairs at Aaron Hills, and therefore they're not
Starting point is 00:17:44 betting on DJ this week. Oh, come on. Yeah, a little joke in there somewhere. A little joke, but yeah, I mean, I just like that But Charming quote a lot. If you watch the video of him saying it too, it's one of those deals where he's on a radio show where he doesn't know what he can say. So he says, can I say whatever I want on this radio show? And the guy goes, no. I mean, you can say whatever you want, but not really. And he just says Dustin Johnson has the biggest balls in the world. It's hard not to like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Speaking of, well, let's go to the opposite of something that cool. Bubba Watson posted, we just noticed one of the worst videos I've ever seen on Twitter. He's buying eggs or something. I think his video is him basically bragging about giving $20 to buy eggs, which usually costs like what, $3 or $4? I don't think he knows what he's doing in these videos. And the second one is him hoping he doesn't get spit on by an alpaca. All I have on these videos, and if you go and watch them, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:18:40 He is the least funny person ever. He's the least funny person ever that thinks he's funny and interesting. Well, he thinks he's like Richard Pryor. Yeah. He thinks he's these videos, he's like, these are, this is it. Once I'm done with this golf thing, I can go, I'm going to be a stand-up comedian. We should try to get Ted Scott on and see if Ted Scott hates Boba Watson, too. We should have Ted Scott on and have him use one of those FBI voices like they do for mob guys who do interviews.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yep. And it'll be very, like, slow and deep. And we'll be like this. may not be Ted Scott and then it will be. Okay. I like that. Again, Sunshine, book that please. Just book that stuff. Ted Scott giving an under disguise interview and then who was the other one? Oh,
Starting point is 00:19:20 Daniel Berger. Yeah, Daniel Berger. All right. Now, the reason we're talking about all this is because it's U.S. Open Week. We're at Aaron Hills. We get into it a decent amount with elk in terms of course and all of that. Officially listed at 7,741 yards.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The Fescue is ridiculous The Fescue is going to be the thing That everyone is sick about hearing By the end of the week I think I'm already sick of it The Kevin Nothang was huge Because he went all crazy about it But the Fescue were going to be hearing
Starting point is 00:19:51 Fescue, if you want to play a drinking game During a golf tournament Fescue and you'll be very, very drunk You think Fescue is really going to be The word of the week, huh? Oh yeah Yeah, it's already up there The course looks magnificent does
Starting point is 00:20:02 They had the I think it was 2011 U.S. Amateur here Kelly Kraft Patrick Cantlay in the final. I was going back and watching some of those highlights. Some of these holes, I mean, on 18 in the championship match, during the first 18, I believe Kelly Craft made like a triple on the par 5. It's like 660 something.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Some of these holes, people are going to get into some fucking trouble out here. And that brings me to my main point. Look, we said it last week a little bit. We're going to say it again. I think we speak for the vast majority of golf. fans and spectators. We want complete fucking carnage this week. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:20:42 U.S. Open every week. We don't want it every week over the course of the entire golf schedule. We want it every U.S. open week every year. One week, carnage. We want guys topping shots out of the rough, hacking, can't get it out, can't find their ball, hitting good chips that they're going to stop by the hole and then roll all the way off the other side.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They make triple. Endless stuff of that because it makes the amateur golfer not feel as bad about their area. I can't understand an argument the other direction. You know what I mean? I can't understand people not wanting just one tournament a year where they completely turn the screws. They completely turn everything up just to see what happens. Like it would be a weird world that we lived in if they didn't have something like this. Because you get the other, right, the other side of the coin is, you know, these guys hit it down every fairway, hit a wedge or short iron to inside 10 feet and make 30s.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And they shoot 66s and 65s. That's fine. That's fine. But like, it's like that every fucking week. Yeah. What makes this week awesome is that it is so different. And the reason it's so different is because the course setup is as difficult as possible. You have to drive the ball straighter than you have to drive it any other week.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You've got to hit your iron shots with more precision than every other week. Like your short game needs to be better. It's like that's what's awesome about the U.S. Open. And, you know, even Augusta is the back nine allows you to kind of have a birdie barrage and all that. The U.S. Open, give us chaos, give us carnage. I alluded to in my blog today about Kevin Nah, who we'll get to a little bit. In 06-07, we had back-to-back years where the winner, okay, the winner was 5 over par. I think at Wingfoot, if you were like 11 over, you were like in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's amazing. Think about how fucking good these guys are? Yeah. They're insanely good of you. And most of our listeners probably have done this. When you've gone to a tour of it, you've stood behind them on the driving range. You watch these guys hit balls. You're like, how the fuck do they ever not make Bertie?
Starting point is 00:22:31 They hit it so straight? 11 over basically got you inside the top 10. Five over won the tournament. That's what we want. And I know we've got guys, we got Kevin and I, we've got Adam Scott coming out saying these conditions are crazy. There's got to be the flip side of that where guys, it means more to them if they win this tournament because they know how hard it is. Yeah, I mean, if you can win the hardest test that there is, and that's the USGA's line always, right? We're not trying to embarrass the best player.
Starting point is 00:22:56 We're trying to identify them. Clever. I like it. I do like that. It's got to be. It's just, in order for the tournaments to be majors, like legitimate majors with all the prestige and all that, they've got to be different. And what makes the U.S. Open is that it's really, really, really fucking hard and brutal. And it's a battle.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And that's what we want. And that's what we're going to get. It sounds like this course, it sounds like we're going to have chaos. It sounds like... I think the fairways are wider than people are... The Fescue is a big storyline, but I think people are, the fairways are wide enough where you might not be dealing with it too much. It's kind of sounding like if you do hit it in the Feske, like you've hit a horrific shot. Yeah, and it's like over for you because you're going to take forever to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah, so Kevin Naa posted that video. Let me. Him in the Feskew. Okay. Hey, hey, Riggs. What's up, Trump? Knock, knock. Who's there?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Kevin Naa. Kevin Nott went in the U.S. open this year. Oh! Sunshine found that joke on Reddit. That's a good one. That's always a good one. You really, you can't hate a knock, knock. joke. Kevin, basically, I mean, and it's true, and Jack
Starting point is 00:24:06 Nicholas has said it before that anytime he heard somebody complaining about the tournament or the setup, he just crossed them off his list. It was like, that's not someone I have to compete against this week. I don't understand why people do this. I mean, the only, yeah, because the only thing people are going to say is like, nut up and play. Do they think that they're influencing the USGA? I mean, that has to be the angle. Do they think Mike Davis is taking, like, Kevin? He might be right. I mean, maybe Mike Davis is going, all right, everybody's picking up this video, this story, even Riggs Barstool blogged it, that Kevin Noss
Starting point is 00:24:39 complaining about the Fescue and saying, what did you say? He said that they should get together all the U.S. Open champions or major champions and have them set up the course, something like that. It's a direct shot at the U.S.GA. It is. And I think when they say these things, it drives ratings for people to watch because they want to see chaos. So while these guys maybe think they're pressuring the U.S.GA to be like, oh, we'll make it maybe a little bit even. easier. I think, first of all, I think USGA may go the other way and be like, we're going to make it harder. And two, that makes me more excited to watch if these guys are very worried
Starting point is 00:25:09 about how hard the course is. Yes, that hypes it for me. Yep. You know, big time. And we're going to, any video that I can possibly get of showing how brutal the rough is, how hard the greens are, like, I always loved last year at Oakmont when the guys were posting, the years of them, like hitting a lag butt that looked really good, and then it would roll like 70 yards off the green. Yeah. Catch some slope. That makes me be like, I cannot. wait to watch this. I loved when they were showing videos at Chambers Bay and guys were basically hitting ramps on the green. Show me more of that. I want to see them all ramp over the hole. Yeah, when guys were hitting one that's like, oh, it lands a foot left of the hole and then it
Starting point is 00:25:44 bounces 90 yards away from the hole. You're like, yes, that is great. Speaking of Chambers Bay, our guy Gary Player. Oh, boy. He unleashed a statement today. So the gist is this, is that in two years ago, 2015, Chambers Bay, U.S. Open. Obviously, it took a ton of heat. I still dislike Billy Horshiel because of the antics and the way that he kind of shit on the course. Yeah. But Gary Player was brought on to the podcast or to the coverage.
Starting point is 00:26:15 If he wants to come on the podcast, that'd be great. Also, it would not be a bad guy to have on the podcast. But he went on to the coverage and was like the design of this course sucks. The condition of this course is in sucks. It's insane that someone would basically let that happen. and design this, which is a direct shot at Robert Trent Jones. They've gone back and forth and kind of bitched each other and whatnot. But Gary Player, he released this statement.
Starting point is 00:26:42 My favorite part, so he basically goes into this whole thing, tells the story. He goes, I wasn't at Chambers Bay that year randomly. I was invited to celebrate the anniversary of my career Grand Slam victory, which I completed 50 years earlier at the U.S. Open. The only other golfers in the club are Gene Sarazen, Ben Hogan, Jack Nicholas, and Tiger Woods. The fact that that's part of his statement is unbelievable. Like, oh, I wasn't even at that U.S. Open because I was invited to celebrate my own Grand Slam that only a couple people have ever done. He, that doesn't even scratch the surface of some of the crazy things he said, though.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You go a little further down, though. How do you pronounce wallist? W-H-I-L-S-T? Wiles. Wiles. Walsed. Walsed. Walsed.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Wals. He seems to be suffering from either amnesia or senality. I do wish he would come to peace with what happened during the U.S. Open and just get on with his life. That's like an ex-girlfriend, like tweet right there. Then this is the craziest part to me. One paragraph down, I had the privilege of spending time with Nelson Mandela who was in prison for 27 years. And if anyone had a reason to have hatred and revenge in their heart, it was him. Yet he did not.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I advise Mr. Jones in Rio that he should take a leaf out of Mandela's book. He has very obviously and sadly not done so. Just, I mean, everything about this is perfect. Every player, that guy, he is an animal. Could you imagine some of the shit that he must talk on guys? No, I mean, it has to be with, I mean, if this is any evidence, it just must be endless. He, like, I can't even imagine he must have very, like, tough standards. Like, he probably doesn't, he's not impressed by very many people.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Dude, he's, like, 86 and he does 4,000 push-ups a day. Yeah, and he does the body issue of, like, the, what is it, ESPN? Yeah. The ESPN body issue where he's all jacked, like, naked on there. He's like 80. The funniest thing to come out of social media on Masters Week was him doing bicep curls watching coverage on TV. He's a lunatic. So this was great stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It all gets you hyped for the U.S. Open. Somehow Gary Players feud with Robert Trent Jones is part of that hype. We're going to be covered all weekend. Oh, yeah. Another part that gets us hyped up is Fox's coverage. I love Fox's coverage of this tournament. So they're doing basically as much BroTracer as technically. and humanly possible.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah. Which is the greatest thing in the world. Here's my... So, what is this? The third year Fox has been doing the U.S. Open, I believe. Yeah, it was, yeah, because the first year is when they had
Starting point is 00:29:08 Greg Norman, and they just dropped him immediately. Just dropped him. Which was kind of tough because I like Greg Norman. Me too. First year was kind of tough. Second year, they seemed to understand
Starting point is 00:29:17 more what they're doing. My view has always been, to use as much technology as you can get and then drop off what people don't like. I think that's Fox's view of golf tournaments. people don't, maybe don't want as much technology
Starting point is 00:29:27 because that's how golf has always gone. It moves like a glacier in terms of everything. Right. But the more pro-tracer, the more technology, this and that. It might be overbearing at some points, but it's just going to be better for it in the end. Yeah, if you're a golf fan, I mean, just the flight of the golf ball in general just gets you going,
Starting point is 00:29:45 gives you like a giant boner. And watching the way these guys hit the ball, watching the ball flight, it just makes it so much better. You don't have to fucking guess. You don't have to wait for those clowns out in the fairway to try to like find it with the camera all the time. Half the time they miss it, especially on like CBS. Half the time they miss it. You have no idea.
Starting point is 00:30:04 They're like, oh, I think it kind of went in the lap rope. Now you get the pro tracer. You get to watch it. You get to watch their ball flight. You get to get excited about their ball flight. Fox also does the anti-Augusta in terms of airing it on TV. They show all the time as much as they can, as much coverage as possible. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Absolutely. Yeah. And it's going to be a lot of, it's going to be a little different. mean a lot of Wisconsin like Vista shots. Yeah. Which is very different than what we usually get. Beautiful Wisconsin. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like they're going to be talking up Wisconsin so much. Like how beautiful Wisconsin is. There's going to be a lot of Broughtworths jokes, cheddar worst jokes. We're out in the Midwest. The people are so nice. It's going to be like that's going to be the whole fucking gist. It's going to be interesting. Stereotypes are largely like bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:48 You'll find nice people and mean people everywhere. But for broadcasts like this, they just completely hammer at home. Oh, they just go. stereotype city on this. They're going to be like interviewing like little fucking farmers driving down the street and they're, you know. There might be even, do you think they'll make them making a murder reference? Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Because that was in Wisconsin, yeah, I was. I bet maybe they won't go that far, but they might. If they're really buying into the Wisconsin stuff, make a Stephen Avery reference this weekend. Do you think Vegas has odds on if there's a Stephen Avery making a murder reference? If there isn't, there should be an I would bet on it. I bet they do it. Really?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. Wow. How are they going to get to that? I was just trying to throw golf to that. I don't... Wisconsin's famous for a number of things. Yeah. One of them is making a murder.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't know. I'd have to think about it. But they're really going to drive home to Wisconsin thing. And most recently, the biggest thing to come out of Wisconsin is Stephen Avery. I would have to go against you on that bet. I don't see how they get to making a murderer from the U.S. Open. Do it. Do it.
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Starting point is 00:33:15 You good? We're doing great. I'm here with Trent, as always. What's up, Elk? What's up, T? Was that you on the ground with the tea in your ass and all that? That was me on the ground, the tea in my ass. Yeah, I got a big ass bruise from it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I saw that, mate. Fucking she just chopped it up. Yeah, I don't know what. I mean, I don't know what happened. Next thing I thought we were doing, next thing I knew my ass was on fire. I see that slow-mo where they show the blubber and like it rolls over. You know, when like a shark bite, you know, they do it in slow-mo with that ass-cheek folds over and folded back. Slap back on itself.
Starting point is 00:33:51 If I had gone bare-ass cheeks, that would be an incredible visual. But I had my boxers on, so it might not be as good. A lot of people are saying you're kind of a pussy for having your boxes on. All right, when they lay on the ground and get a ball head out of their ass, they can come talk to me. What, how did you hold the tea? Was that in your ass? Was it in the hole or was it on the outside of the hole? It was on the outside.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Well, when Riggs did it, it was most definitely on the outside of the hole. Paige, she was a little more aggressive. It might have been in the hole when she had. She was getting into it. Was she? Yes, she was. She was excited, I think. Oh, you guys like the little turn with the heavy muff?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, I actually like that a lot. What are you getting into the cartoon game? Is that what's going on here? Oh, I've always been in a mate. I do 500 a year. Jesus. Yeah, I saw some of your ones with Duff are great. We love Duff.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, Duff's going to be on my show tomorrow, my opening show on Sirius XM tomorrow. You got a new show launching tomorrow, right? Yeah, so I have a show on Sirius XM, that on the PGA Tour channel that I've decided to do. Basically, you know, Secret Golf has a lot of assets. We have 17 PGA players and LPGA players on the contract. So, you know, I do all their digital footprint for all of our players.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So, you know, why not get on there and talk more about them? Who was crazy enough to give you an unfiltered show? Sirius XN. Look at that. They couldn't wait. They wouldn't wait. They would have given me the S if I asked for it on Sirius. Why didn't you ask for it?
Starting point is 00:35:23 Well, I did. I got the eye. So what could people expect on the show? What are you going to kind of go through? Yeah, I think, you know, one of the producers is here right now at the big show. We talked about our mission statement. But basically, you know, there's all kinds of shows on the PGA Tour channel. But our show, I don't want to know what all the other shows are about because what we do is we bring people into our lives and talk about stories that happen around the tour,
Starting point is 00:35:49 stories that happen around our players. And, you know, we're real. You know, we have fun with it. It's not the golf channel. It's the real deal. And, for example, tomorrow we're going to talk about Jason Duffner. And what a conversation you have with Jack Nicholas after he won? That's a conversation that I want to hear about.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah, absolutely. What about, so, yeah, Duff won the Memorial, obviously, a couple weeks ago. I mean, that had to obviously mean a ton to him. How does he go out and shoot, was it, 70-70, 77 on Saturday? Yeah, he was like 65, 65, and then 77. Yeah, and then he battles back, has an awesome Sunday. I mean, I feel like that's, it takes a lot of balls to pull that off. Yeah, we had a little chat Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:36:32 We fixed putting what he was doing wrong with his putting. He said he putted like a donkey on Saturday. And, you know, you guys know golf, right? Once you get going a certain way and things aren't working and then you can't fix it, then it has a tendency to get off the rails. It happens to us too, right? So I'm going to leave that for the show tomorrow. He's going to tell us what the fix was on the putting.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But, yeah, it's a really good comeback. I mean, he's a really good player. Shit, he's won the PGA and he's won the Byron Nelson. Now he's got Jack's tournament. He needs the Bay Hill to complete the sleeve of legends. That's right. What do you think about his chances this week? I like his chances this week, only because he hits it so good.
Starting point is 00:37:17 and he was at the big show the other night or last night we fixed his putting even more so you know confidence is a really a lucive animal you know it's like rare it's like Sasquatch and he he has Sasquatch in his bag
Starting point is 00:37:33 right now so any guy that's dangerous is a guy like him when he's got that much confidence of course I ran into Stevie Williams today famous for Caddian for Tiger a good friend of mine you know he's probably the greatest catty that's ever lived probably 150 tournaments, probably 20 majors.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And he was telling me, there's so much rough out there. I mean, no kidding. It's like up to your cards in rough out there. If you hit it in there, you know, there's not going to be on the telecast tomorrow. It's going to be, oh, yeah, he's going to go in there. He's going to wedge it out, down the field.
Starting point is 00:38:10 You know, I'll take a plan from there time. He may not be able to, they may not be able to move it at the length of their, flip-flop out of this stuff. It is nasty. I mean, it is walking through, get tangled up and fall over nasty. So you've been out there.
Starting point is 00:38:26 When did you get out there last night? No, I got out there this morning early. And you checked out the course. Obviously, we saw from Kevin Nah, the Fescue. You know, he makes it sound like it's basically unplayable. What are your first impressions of the track? The first impression of the shack is very long. You know, it's 70, 100.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's on like 60s and 100. It's on like 6. 100 acres. Most courses are on, you know, 250. So it's just, it's frigging gigantic. It's like Everest. But I walked all the way out to the middle of the course to have a look at it. I was sort of surprised with how much rough there was there, there is there.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I was sort of thinking, for example, how are they going to play this thing right now? It's windy. It's hot. It's long, very long. And then I ran into Stevie Williams, as I said. And he said, well, the first question, I asked him was, can they keep, can you hit it off the tee and keep it out of the rap?
Starting point is 00:39:20 He goes, oh, yeah. Yeah, he said, really, you shouldn't get in the rough unless you just, you know, hit a sidewinder. Because the fairways, oh, go ahead. Yeah, they're wide. Yeah, they're wide. Yeah, it looks like they're, it looks like, so from what we're seeing, it looks like the fairways are wide as hell, and then there's a very small patch, like five, ten yards of rough, and then it goes right into that fescue that looks like it's basically unplayable.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah, but that. That little five-yard piece is basically fescue cut off. Like if you took a handful of spaghetti that you're going to put in the pot and you broke it off at three inches, that's what that is. I mean, that's nasty too. It's not going to come flying out of air like it does, you know, at your local muny where the grass is real, you know, sort of soft. This is real, I checked it out.
Starting point is 00:40:11 This is real firm grass. So there's going to be a lot of, you know, a lot of, a lot of drag. in the club in the in the in the in the in the hals of the club is you're going to get them there's going to be mate there's going to be some cottage there's going to be some big numbers out there when those guys hit it out in the in the big stuff oh mate it's going to be a it may they may have set a record for most marshals looking for a ball yeah that uh that muni local muny rough that's like trenton mine sweet spot we love that stuff the the big the big stuff no that uh the local muny rough that soft stuff that's basically just like nothing that's where we live right yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:40:45 I've seen you guys. I've seen your action. Yeah, I've seen that action. We're going to have to get out with you there sometime. We'll have to play for something. No doubt. No doubt. Make it light on yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Let me ask you this, Elk. Are you a fan of these tough conditions? Do you want the guys to kind of struggle for it? Or do you wish they would go ahead? You know what? The U.S. Open psyched me out. I played good in every tournament on tour except the U.S. Open. The best tournament I ever had was maybe top 20 in the U.S. Open.
Starting point is 00:41:15 and I've played in probably 20 of them. I don't know how many I played in, but I tell all my players that, you know, put it this way. This tournament, there's 156 guys playing. 140 of them are already out. It's already out. This course is over for most of them. The longer ball hitters this week have a huge advantage
Starting point is 00:41:33 because when you're playing a course that long and you're back there, look, everyone's going to be able to hit the fairways pretty good. There's nobody can be in the rough this week and be anywhere near us. Well, when you say those guys are out already, I mean, did you consider yourself kind of one of those guys that psyched yourself out before you even started? It bribed myself out. I tried to not tell myself I was, but I probably was. Probably was. Just because I was pissed off about something or the way the USDA set it up and I was pissed at this or I was pissed at that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 And I never had that attitude. Sam, my son said to me, Dad, you're the straightest driver in the history of the world. How the hell did you not play any good in the U.S. Open? And I said, you know what? terrible terrible I should have I mean it's just so so mental for me that that a tournament yeah you would think a guy hits it straight enough to win the players twice could maybe contend to the U.S. Open yeah I've putted bad in the U.S. Open and the greens were always rock hard and I was upset with bad bounces and stuff and you know what I shouldn't have had my attitude was
Starting point is 00:42:34 100% wrong I just think this course is very similar to that I think it's just look there's just not that many guys that are skilled enough to win on this course. Long hitters have an advantage because they're going to hit a lot less club into these greens because the greens are, the green, you know, there's going to be a lot of ricocheting around the green. There's going to be a lot of funky stuff you see on TV, the balls coming in, and they're going to bounce off, and they're going to go down and run away.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And the greens are, they're well-designed. It's a well-designed course, and it looks good, very lush. It's just going to be one of those U.S. Open. It's going to be one of those moving car wrecks, you know? Yeah, so. So a lot of people saying, you know, USGA is under a ton of pressure. The last two U.S. opens, if you go back Chambers Bay, obviously the Greens, they took a ton of shit for that.
Starting point is 00:43:23 The Dustin Johnson situation last year on Sunday, they took a ton of shit for that. Mike Davis himself said that they feeling a little extra pressure this year. How do you think it's going to go? And let's not forget that Brittany Lang, one of my players, was introduced when she got, there's Bethany Lane. Yeah. I think the lady Perez was in the bag when she gave the trophy away. I had forgotten all about that.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That was something else that day. That was crazy. And so, yeah, the U.S. How would you like to win the U.S. Open? And then they dropped the wrong front name on you. Yeah. I mean, that's not good. You don't want that.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So, yeah, I mean, what do you think? How do you think it's going to go? What do you think? They're under so much pressure. They're so stressed right now. They're big stress right now. And they're big stress right now about this week. there's no no not stress.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Like next year it's a Chinnicock or Pebble Beach. And by the way, Nicholas said on TV, you know, like two weeks ago, he's like, why does the USDA keep like putting himself a round ball in a square hole? I mean, why are they keep going to these courses? No one's ever seen. Why don't we take our national open and go back to all the great courses we have so the whole world can enjoy these pebble beaches, shinicawks, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:35 you name them, right? Why are we playing at some ministry track? Right. And that's what they do with the British, with the British, you know, the roto. And if that's worked out very well. No doubt. No doubt. This looks, this looks, it's got that look about it, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. All they need, all you'd need was some donut, some donuts and some fatty, smelly sausage shops. And you'd be, you'd be right in England right here tomorrow here, mate. So what are the players kind of saying there? I mean, obviously the Kevin Nah, speaking to Adam, or speaking of Stevie Williams, we've had Adam Scott kind of came out and said, you know, don't make it. brutal. There's no reason to kind of make par the goal. What are the, what are the players really
Starting point is 00:45:13 saying kind of behind the scenes about the course? You know, I haven't, I haven't pulled enough yet, but basically my first, my first look to, talking to him today was, it's playable. Most of the good players, the guys that I'm talking to, like my guys that are, they're going to really play. They're saying it's, it's playable. It's just going to be real hard, though. But they're saying it's playable. What we don't like is we don't like the, the, the, the, the big funky bounce that you get in the U.S. Open, the ones that we just, like, you know, like you hit a ball and then it lands on a parking lot, right?
Starting point is 00:45:48 And just like, what the hell was that? And you make seven and, you know, out of nowhere. The hardest thing about the U.S. Open, to me, it's almost a one-day tournament. And I'll tell you why. And I've said this for years. If you, as you guys know this, you know, the score, let's call the score even power for winning, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Let's not go into 10 under. Let's just go even par. If you shoot 77 the first day or 76, there's no way back. You can't get back because you can't make a birdie, right? Now, I'm not saying that's about this course, but if you're, you know, eight over, you can't come back. I remember I was I was playing at Pinehurst one time
Starting point is 00:46:29 when it was so hard. My dad was with me, and I was in the fourth round, and I was like, I don't know, I was like 15 over. and he comes over to me on the rope, you know, and my dad, he's over from Australia, he goes, are you going to bogey every hole? And I said, well, yeah, pretty much, let me think now, we've got seven holes left.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So here's the way it goes, Dad. When you're even pie, and you're playing the U.S. open, and the pins over the left, you shoot at 40 feet right and two-putt, right, to stay even. When you're 15 over, you get a straight of the flag, and it bounces over into the concrete, in the back, you go 16. The next hole, you hit it to shoot at the flag in, it goes 17.
Starting point is 00:47:06 and on you go until you finish at 23. See how my attitude was in the U.S. Open? Right, yeah. Poor. You're all twisted up about it. Stunning, you didn't win one. It was poor. Very poor.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I wasn't willing to hit it 40 feet and stay 15 over, okay? And that's just not, I mean, that's not, basically what all the players keep saying is that's not fun golf. That's just a brutal grind the whole time. That's correct. However, we all want that trophy because it changes your life if you win the tournament. and you become one of the greatest players ever. And to a certain degree, it is a star on your chest if you could win the U.S. because you will have survived something pretty brutal.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, we were talking about it last week where if it was every week where the conditions were this brutal, that would be something else. But it's once a year you've got to go out there and test your medal. If you win it, you really got to earn it. Yeah. And to be honest with you guys, there's a lot of guys out there, even at this level, that don't have all the shots. I mean, everyone says, oh, the two players got all the shit.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Not bullshit. Hardly any of them have all the shots. You know, like Dustin Johnson, mate, he doesn't even have a heartbeat. I mean, did you imagine having a two-stroke penalty hanging over your head last year? And he was just calmly like he played the last seven holes, 200 to still win it? I mean, I would have snapped. I mean, you talk about snap. You would have snapped, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it was a six-hour and he stepped up on hit on the 70-second hole to like three feet. I don't know how you do that with, you know, the day that he had and all that. So obviously takes a lot to win this thing. You know, we saw, I believe it was Nicholas came out this week, and he kind of ranked the different majors. He said, you know, the U.S. Open means the most to him as an American. You're an Aussie, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You know, where's the U.S. Open rank for you? Well, it's definitely one of the four, you know. You know, I'm lucky enough to have won the PGA. I always said that I felt great for winning the PGA because, you know, PGA represents all the PGA pros, the club pro. Well, I was taught by all PGA pros. My life has been molded by PGA pro. So I was really thankful, and I still go to places where they're happy that I'm a PGA champion.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I understand that Jack likes the U.S. Open Chilis from America. It's awesome. But I'll tell you this. Whenever I won the PGA 25 years ago, there's not one day goes by my life where I don't go somewhere. They may not remember what year it was, and they may not remember the course that I wanted that. And they may not even remember which major it was, but they all know, I want a major. And that's how far it carries. Yeah, and when you go to the Masters, they rope off a special area for you.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So you can just point and laugh for people like us. That's correct. It's a rope. It's not to keep us in. It's to keep you out. Yeah, we'll never forget that. It's just permanently stained into our memory. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I mean, you guys are starting to get the gifts of this golf thing. Yeah, we're getting the just. So the Phil Mickelson, we got the Phil Mickelson story. of him. Oh, God. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait for it.
Starting point is 00:50:08 We've got to get your take on this one, Elk. Oh, yeah. Hey, he's going to go for the Grand Slam. He's just going to do it a different way. He's going for crispy cream, in and out, Mr. Potato, and Johnny Cheese Stick.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That's going to be his grand slam when he's down there and California and his kids deal. So I take it you're not a fan of the move. It's a bad move, dude. His kid was Fala Victoria, and go to the thing, or don't talk about it, but stop talking about it.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Stop. Stop. It's also, it's high school graduation. I mean, everybody graduates from high school. Who cares? Yeah, no kidding. Make up your mind what you're doing. I mean, he's going for the Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I mean, like I said, I know what Grand Slam he's going for. Do you think you... Throw in another one. Throw in Mr. Milkshake. Throw in that too. He can do it. He can do it. Do you think he just doesn't like the course?
Starting point is 00:50:57 I mean, I don't understand it. I don't know. Who knows? I mean, the guy just cannot. stop. I mean, I mean, I mean, how many mirrors does he need when he goes to the course to look at himself? I mean, are you kidding me? Never misses a mirror. I mean, it's just can't stop talking about himself. I can't talk about it. Terrible. I'd rather talk about Tiger. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying. I wouldn't. Yeah, we could talk. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him, too.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, we could talk Tiger all day, but we, yeah, I feel bad for him. That's not right. someone told me he's he's going away again is that right he went to a rehab or something is that right yeah someone they said he's going to hospital something we're kind of hearing rumors i don't think anything's been substantiated yet but uh yeah yeah we were kind of talking last week a little bit about just the whole you know how they unveiled all the different videos and did them at different times and we just thought that was kind of weird yeah it's a little heavy i mean i had that back surgery the same one he did and mine worked the first time and as soon as that leg pain went away mate i was off i was off the big the heavy tablets the next day i was just on Tylenol and i know he had a
Starting point is 00:52:08 couple bad surgeries and of course we're only getting down to what his problem is or is not we don't know for sure but he shouldn't have any pain he said he didn't have any pain so here we are a month later and he's still on all this stuff so maybe you know maybe this is he got lucky he didn't kill himself maybe this is what he needed to be you know in a strange way you know what i'm saying yeah you got to reach your bottom Yeah, you've got to reach the bottom. You know, he's got wonderful kids. He's got a pretty good team around him with the, what I say, team.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You know, his ex-wife's great. His kids are great. You know, I don't know about his crew that he runs with, whatever, but, dude, straighten up. Get organized. You got little young kids, you know. They've got to go to two stuff. Oh, yeah, we agree. We're big Tiger guys who are hoping for a big comeback.
Starting point is 00:52:54 That's kind of been our spin zone was that, you know, now that he's not going to come. He's not going to be done more shooting the ball. He's just going to be walking around, Tiger. He's not going to be no fist pumping cat anymore. That's out. I would say walking around Tiger is better than the tiger that we've been seeing lately. No doubt. There's no doubt about that.
Starting point is 00:53:11 So are you going to be at Aaron Hills all week? No, I'm going to leave tomorrow. I'm doing my show tomorrow, Tuesday, 3 to 4 on XM Central Time. So, and then I'm going to go back to Texas on Wednesday. All right. Well, yeah, make sure everybody checks out the. 3 to 4. Is that what time it is tomorrow? 3 to 4.5, you boys, right?
Starting point is 00:53:35 You guys up in the city? Yes, sir. 4 to 5 Easter. All right, Alk. Well, yeah, everybody check out the show. Also, check out Secret Golf if you have it. We appreciate it, as always. Thanks for hopping on with us. All right, man. This edition of From the Gallery is brought to you by our friends at BetDSI. BetDSI.com says it's time to play, win, and get paid.
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Starting point is 00:54:42 and try bettd-d-si.com now. Go there now. All right. Now everybody's favorite segment from the gallery. Shout to the folks. We've sent it in questions and scenarios. We got quite a few more emails, scenarios, questions, etc., etc. from folks.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Thank you very much. A quick reminder, foreplay at bars toolsports.com. Email us, email us, email us. We want stuff to talk about. Big part of the podcast is what the average dude or gal experiences with their friends out on the course. We don't really know about any of those if you don't email us. So send us stuff in. We got three this week.
Starting point is 00:55:16 The first one sent in by listener Andrew. This one's very dear to my heart. Speaking of we need, I don't know what to call our listeners. Yes. We've been kind of just being like four play listeners. Obviously part of my take has AWLs. They do. Award winning listeners, something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:35 There's got to be something clever with golf that we could do, but we just haven't come up with it yet. Yeah, let's do it this way. The listeners, it's them. If they want to try and name themselves, send us things that you might want to be called because we're having a difficult time thinking of it. I feel like that's like a cool little cult thing to have. It's like a specific name for your people, for your listeners. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:55:56 So send that in along with your, emails from the galleries or social media us, tag us, tell us what you think you should be called because we're too dumb and haven't come up with anything. Anyways, Andrew sends in one that's very dear to my heart. He says this past weekend, I was at a local course with some guys. My buddy basically had to bail into a group of pine trees to take an emergency shit.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I've been playing since I was probably 10. Have yet to see this move on the course. For the record, I'm not trying to glorify this. It was disgusting. But it was goddamn hilarious to see him squatting in the trees at the same time. Just wondering if you've come across. any tricky situations like this on the course where you had to last resort it. I have not personally, but I have most definitely been with anybody, people who have been
Starting point is 00:56:39 shitting on the course. Okay, so you've seen this move pulled before. Yeah, and I will say, for my personal experience, this guy is like, I'm not trying to glorify it. If you got to go, you got to go. That's kind of how it goes. Right. But I. Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I could not, yes. I could not do this. Not in a million years. What? I could not. I'm not to be. But you don't have a choice. That's not to be bougie.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I can hold it. If I have to hold it, I'll hold it. That's not to be bougie. That's not to be any of those things. I just cannot envision myself taking a shit in the middle of the woods and then being like, all right, I'm ready to go about my day. So I'm not on Japs level, like, you know, shitting where that, you know, Japs is a big shitter. You can shit anywhere. He can shit anywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:15 He can shit anywhere. Yeah. But I cannot hold it. When I have to go, I have to go. So I have pulled this move probably three times in my career. Okay. To the point where I can. keep a half roll of biodegradable toilet paper in my golf bag.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That to me is the behavior of a man who has done it way more than three times. No, it's just the problem is this. When the times I've had to do it, it's such a small thing for me to just throw half a roll of toilet paper in my golf bag. And it's such a big thing when you need it. You need it. So I just did it one day. I was like packing my bag, doing that thing where you're like marking your balls, you're cleaning your clubs, you're getting all jacked up for some big round or something.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And I was like, you know what? I want to put fucking toilet paper in my bag. That's also an extremely clutch thing If someone needs toilet paper And they're like, I gotta take a shit Save their life You save, that's not even an understatement That's not herperbably, that's none of that
Starting point is 00:58:07 If you have toilet paper When somebody thinks they're not gonna have toilet paper You are Superman. That person basically, they like owe you For the rest of their life Like you like save them from falling In front of a train or something. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I would say it's more even intense than that. I think my, the reason I can't do it Is my butt is trained to take a shit on a toilet seat. Even if I had to do this in the most dire of circumstances, I don't think I could. I could shit in the middle of like a concert if I had to. No way.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I could, like when I got a shit, I got a shit. There's nothing I can do. In fact, I'll give a quick story. I've skied shitting or I've shit skiing before. You just like on the, I pulled off to the side of the trail and I used my ski map as toilet paper. No way. Lipped it into a bunch of different pieces. I mean, it was very coarse on my ass.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It sucked. But when you got to shit, I'm a kind of person. I have to shit. That's not so bad. I thought what you were saying was you shit while you were skiing. Like you're one of those iditarod, like dogs when they're running. They train those guys to shit as they're running so they don't waste any time. I thought you were saying I'm flying to the mountain.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I'm just shit in my pants. No, so it was in Colorado with a bunch of buddies. And they took me down this fucking trail, double-black dive-a way harder than it was than I'm very capable of doing. And so it was taking me forever. Because usually if you got a shit, you can just fly down the slope. There's all kinds of different bathrooms and little lodges and shit. but this one was really tough. We're in the trees.
Starting point is 00:59:27 It was very heavily treed, very steep. It was taking me forever, and I really had to ship. So I pulled over, you know, 20 yards left of kind of the trail, dug a little thing, took his shit, wipe my ass with literally a ski map that I ripped into like 10 different pieces, buried it all with snow like I was a fucking creature. Oh, yeah. Yep. And then I skied off. Can you imagine some poor soul coming down the hill and crashing into a pile of? a pile of rigs a shit.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It was because I'm a courteous guy. It was far enough off than, like, it would be astronomically unlikely that anyone could come across it. It was, like, kind of off and back up into, like, the trees. Yeah. So. I'm impressed by your, uh, your abilities here. I'm just that when you got to go, you got to go, guy.
Starting point is 01:00:11 There's, I can't help it. I just can't, I can't, I can't, okay. The other option is I'm just going to shit my pants skiing down the slope, like you said. There are, on most golf courses, there are places to shit, though, periodically. Yeah. Problem is you get to talk behind, like, like, slow groove or something and you're like it might be 30 or 40 minutes like that's a long time when you have to shit uh all right next one thoughts on bringing your own putter to minigolf
Starting point is 01:00:34 what do you think about this i'd like to hear your horrific move you suck if you bring your own putter to minigall well a couple of things one this is what i feel like it's something smitty would do yes i was just going to say because smitty brings his own controller to play video games okay okay that all checks out what you just said makes sense I'm not going to shit on this so much as to say if you do this, because it is in the same vein of bringing your own video game trailer, bring your own bowling ball to the bowling alley, bring your own pool queue to the pool hall.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Bring your own pool to the pool hall. If you do this, you couldn't do it. It's fine. That means you're into it, but it says a lot about you. It says a lot about you. It's just like the part of the mini golf is you have the brutal rubber colored mini golf putter. That's like the whole point of it. That's just you're going, you're playing.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I can't even fathom that. Like, just, it's, it's. part of the experience. You bring in your own. If you bring your own, you better win. I'll say that. Oh, yeah, 100%. If you bring your own and you lose, you're like, you're done.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Again, I am not going to shit on anybody who brings their own putter. I'm just saying, you are introducing yourself. Just that says a ton about you. As soon as you do that, I don't like to give to me people, like, if you're meeting people you don't know that well and you're playing minigolf, you bring your own putter. You're telling them so much information about yourself that you don't want them knowing. Yeah, like, oh, that guy's not going to be one of my good friends.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Right. Yes. I hate to put it that way, but that is true. Like, I will not text that guy next, like Friday night to see what he's doing. No, you brought your own putter? Cool, man. We're not going to get beers. Ever.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Play well. Ever. You suck. You're a loser. So. As someone that just detailed shitting and how much I like to shit, I would, I'm shitting all over this move. You suck.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You would literally shit all over this person? Yeah. All right. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to tell you, I haven't played minigolf in a long time. So I don't. Well, last time I played was like a month ago with Smitty when he beat me. Oh, yeah. Should have brought my own butter.
Starting point is 01:02:21 No, you should not have them. I'm glad you did not. All right. So we're both on page or on team. Don't do this. Yes. Okay. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:02:28 We got one more from the gallery. Yep. Okay. Oh, we got another. Does this whole in one count? We did this last week to the guys who... Yeah, we've had a couple of them. I like these.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yep. Does this hole in one count? This is from John. Long story short, my buddies and I live near this golf course and learn how to play by sneaking on its sunset and playing nine. Last year I made my first hole in one doing this, but most of my golfing friends say it doesn't count because we didn't pay what is your opinion? and four play guys.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Definitely counts. Definitely counts. 100% counts. I mean, I don't, you know, there's times when it definitely doesn't count, like when you do a group or Ety and then you hole out, like the one we had a week or two ago, that's just called a par. Yeah. This one, this absolutely counts.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You're out there playing nine holes. Yeah, you might have snuck on, but I mean, who gives a shit? Okay, so since we both agree on this one, let me put this scenario to you. Okay. Let's say your house backs up to a par three, and every once in a while, you and your, and your will just go out there and you'll hit you'll hit one you'll only hit one let's say you hit a hole in one while you're doing that does that count no okay why i just i think you got to be actually um in the process of playing at least like nine holes of golf i would agree with that i think that's that's where i would draw the line i think technically like the usGA or whoever i think i believe their ruling is that it's got to be 18 holes and you have to actually have a scorecard with like all the holes filled out or something like that for them to technically count it, I believe it, because they send you like a certificate or some bullshit like that.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I don't think I like that. I'm not 100% sure, but it's something close to that. Like there is a technicality behind it. In my opinion, if you go out and you're intending to play like nine, at least nine holes of golf, the reason I say intending is because let's say you go out and you're going to play nine, you only like you get on the seventh hole and it's like lightning and you got to get off the course.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah. Or it's getting dark or something. That counts. Okay. In my opinion. Yeah. So this one definitely counts going behind the house and just playing a par three. that's right behind your house as like the only hole you're going to play doesn't count okay that i mean
Starting point is 01:04:25 i think i agree with that and then the other one i remember you remember you know rick riley clearly yeah he had one where he went out and uh he just hit balls in a part three until he hit a whole one that does not count mr rick riley interesting how many did it take him it took forever yeah i've i could be out all day and definitely not get a whole one oh yeah no i could be out there forever but that that also does not count but i mean he was celebrating like it did count what that's rick riley He's a weird guy. That sucks. Now, I lost a lot there.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I don't like that at all. You lost a lot of what? Just any respect I might have had for Rick Riley. He's kind of headed that way anyway. He was one of my favorite writers growing up, but then he's kind of gone crazy. Yeah, you can't do that. All right. That's it from the gallery.
Starting point is 01:05:04 We had Andrew, Alex, and John. Thank you for your submissions. Once again, please email us for Play at barstoolsports. com. Also, if you have an idea of what you yourselves should be called since you're listening to the show, go ahead and let us know about it. We're too dumb. Then we're trying to come up with a cool name.
Starting point is 01:05:19 so that people can rally behind it, something of that nature. All right. So it's about U.S. Open Week time. It's about there's going to be a lot of sitting in my bed watching live from the U.S. Open. Love it. That's pretty much what I'm going to do for the rest of the week. Also I have to plug that Trent and I are going to be on Barstool game time with Smitty.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yes. Are we doing two on two? How are we doing this? So on Wednesday, it's going to be most likely. Likely around 4 p.m. Eastern, somewhere between 4 and I think 7 p.m. Eastern. We're going to either play a round of Tiger Woods Golf. Somehow two on two, I think Smithy's going to be involved. We're going to be involved.
Starting point is 01:06:03 The other option, which, again, is a Smitty operation, so we're not quite honed in on the details yet. Anything could happen. Anything could happen. The other option, apparently, is we might play Golden Tea. I don't know if you can, like, rent a golden tea. It sounds like someone thinks you can rent a golden tea. That's Smitty. And have them bring it to you, and we could, like, technically hook up the Twitch to it.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Okay. But the other option is we're just going to play Tiger Woods, which seems much more logistically realistic. Hopefully that's what happens, because I would love to play Tiger Woods. I haven't played it a lot. So we're going to try to play a little old-school Tiger Woods to get everybody in the mood for the U.S. Open. We might have to play more of a classical U.S. Open course, like Pebble. Yeah, oh, yeah. Because I don't think they have Aaron Hills in the O'I.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Oh, six, Tiger Woods video game. Probably not. Seems unlikely. Unlily. I don't even know if the place was built at that point. It was built in 06. That's from Sunshine. So, yeah, check that out.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Follow stool game time on Twitter, if you don't already, because we're going to be doing a little battling, getting everybody in the mood for the U.S. Open. I think that's about it for me. I'm very excited. This is a point in television every year. Yeah, absolutely. If you are in any way into golf.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah, it's going to be a big weekend. We were actually a little behind the curtain. We were supposed to go to Newport, you and I. And that ended up not happening because we're like, we have to sit on the couch and watch a bunch of golf coverage. So that's what we're going to be doing. Yeah, one of our coworkers might be running like some sort of Ponzi scheme. And part of that involves like a safe house or something in Newport. And they were like, yeah, you guys should go.
Starting point is 01:07:32 We're like, oh, yeah. And then we found out it was the US Open Week. We're like, no, we're not doing that. Yeah, some of the like some of the questionable powers at B were like, yeah, you guys are up on the Newport House that weekend. And then today they were like, yeah, there's no cable or internet or anything. Okay. Gazz was there this weekend, and he said there's barely beds there. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:07:50 So we're not doing that. Instead, we're going to be here. We're going to be in New York. We're doing game time on Wednesday. We're going to be doing all kinds of coverage. I'm excited. Me too. Very excited.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I love the ESOven. I want carnage. We all want carnage. We want blood. Give me who you think he's going to win. Give it to me. I really feel like Rory's going to win. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I think he's coming in with such little, like, press because he hasn't been playing. Yeah. and he's coming off a two-week fucking vacation in Portugal or wherever hell he was. Yeah. You know, he's been hurt, so he hasn't been playing, so therefore he hasn't been getting a ton of coverage,
Starting point is 01:08:25 therefore he doesn't have a ton of expectations. I feel like that's a good sign. He hits the ball so damn well. He drives the ball so damn well. As Elk just told us in that conversation, you know, he thinks the log hitters have a huge advantage. Barely anybody hits it farther than Rory when his driver's on. He hits it pretty damn straight as well. T-degree.
Starting point is 01:08:45 and I just, he's going to be tough to beat. I think that if he's all healed up, which I feel like he is, I feel like he kind of played it really safe. He's been slow playing his recovery. Totally. Very much so. Totally. He's in Tiger mode where he just wants to play the majors.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Completely. So I think he's really been overresting, basically, like making sure everything's absolutely fine. So I don't think the injury is going to be an issue. There's obviously the argument of, like, there being some rust in there because he hasn't been playing. But it's a U.S. Open. I think it's going to be tough for everybody no matter what.
Starting point is 01:09:13 So it's, you know, it's not like anybody's going. out there making a million birdies, he's going to be behind that way. You just avoid some big mistakes. He hits the ball so well, Teter Green, like he's going to be hard to beat. There you go. What do you think? After, I'm going to go chalk. After Butch Harmon's wheelbarrel comment, it's hard not to hate DJ.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I think every major going forward up until a point is going to be DJs to lose. So, I mean, long hitter hits it well. I think it's going to be DJ. It would be nice if we had a Rory DJ kind of duel towards the end. That would be nice. Yeah, that would be riveting television. Yeah, we had a little, the Euro duel at the Masters. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Now we could have like a little Euro v. USA duel. I would be all in on that. Maybe, hey, if Patrick Reed wants to stick his nose in there too, I'd be all on that. Well, you might have to after all this Euro USA. I pick Patrick Reed every week, but, you know, I wouldn't mind him getting in the mix. All right, U.S. Open Week. Everybody enjoy. We will be back next week with a full recap episode after the U.S. OPEO. Check us out there. Check us out Wednesday. Hit a heart.

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