Fore Play - Valero Texas Open Week 2017 w/ Steve Elkington

Episode Date: April 18, 2017

The Golf Boys are back in the studio this week and have an ELECTRIC interview with Major winner Steve Elkington.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Mem...bers can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:03:18 We've been at the Masters for a week We did three straight Four Play episodes from Augusta It's nice to be back in the studio I was telling you this before It feels like we've been gone from the studio for months Forever it feels like It's nice but it does feel a little too professional
Starting point is 00:03:35 I think There is something to be said for When we're in Augusta we're recording in bedrooms With loose microphones Kind of you feel like you're just on the grind rag tag doing your thing. Here you come back. There's studios, there's microphones. We got headphones, the whole deal. I do, it takes a little bit of the magic away. This feels a little too structured. We had the tech guys like checking our fucking levels and stuff earlier. I don't
Starting point is 00:03:56 know about that. I will say we came in here and it looked like a bomb went off in the studio. Yeah, so we had a couple, a bunch of other podcasters were in here before us. It's chaos in here. The table's all crooked. I don't like that. I like the table to be nice and centered. So it is a studio, but it's still a little rag tag, which we like. I have a couple don't say words this week. Fuck is still on there. I say that too often. Love it, which is going to be key for our interview, I feel like, is where I drop that
Starting point is 00:04:22 too often. Yeah. And then the word wild, I've been saying a lot lately. Wild. I don't know where it came from, but it might have something to do with the fact that the blues are playing the Minnesota Wild. Okay. So I'm just saying wild all the time.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So try not to say that. Those are my do not say words. This is the first week, too, in a couple weeks that we're back to our original format, the traditional format. Yeah, when we were down in Augusta, we were just kind of running through. We just wanted full-length episodes. We recorded them all in one piece. This time, we're going to be back to the old way.
Starting point is 00:04:53 We're going to have from the gallery. We got a fantastic guest in Steve Elkington, Elk, coming up later. Big Elk. Big Elk. We had, we have to talk a little bit about the electric factory that is Frankie Burrelli. Maybe the biggest star we've ever had on the podcast. No doubt about it. I wouldn't even say maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I would say absolutely. his episode got more positive feedback than anything we've ever done. The greatest day that was ever had. If you haven't listened to it, it was Frankie Sunday night. We did all this prep work. We had these different segments. We were going to talk about different shots that were hit at the Masters. Instead, all we did was you grabbed Frankie Borelli off the street about an hour after he stumbled his way home from the Masters,
Starting point is 00:05:33 as giddy as anyone you've ever seen in your entire life. The idea was to grab him, have him come in for 10, 15 minutes, recap his day. you know what shots did you see where did you sit next thing you know we had the whole house in this one tiny bedroom Pete checking the levels I'm doing air quotes because he was only going to be in there for a couple of minutes and then leave like you usually does Frankie was so infectious and his boy wonder was so happy and on display that he just stuck around the whole time we didn't realize that Frankie was basically on the fucking green for every shot that you've ever heard of in the masters if you listen to the episode you will hear Frankie say repeatedly these this isn't
Starting point is 00:06:07 what happened these are the shots I saw yeah and he can kept saying that, which was a great point because what it kind of sounds like was he was recapping the Masters. No, he was recapping every awesome shot that he saw. He saw all the perfect shots. And kudos to Frankie for battle in the crowd. He seemed to have just overpowered everyone, basically, outsmarted
Starting point is 00:06:24 people, got front and center. He was just disregarding the rules, laughing at people that were following the rules. Being a single is what really drove everything for him. Because if he was with anybody else like us, even though we were working, we wouldn't have been able to do
Starting point is 00:06:39 half of the stuff that he did. So being by himself was a big factor. When you got that kind of flexibility, it's nice. You can just buzz around, you can weave in and out. Frankie did it. He told us all about it. It's actually why I'm a big proponent of going movies by yourself. A lot of flexibility. You're on your own time. You get both armrests. It's a good thing. You know, I'm a big fan of skiing by myself. Okay. You get to cut the lines as well. They always have the singles line. You're not really, you're not hitching your wagon to like, well, I don't want to do that
Starting point is 00:07:02 run. It doesn't have as many bumps as I like or it's too hard for me or whatever. Yeah. You just do whatever you want. Ski your own ski your own ski. I'll take it one step further. Living alone is the best thing. It's basically life alone. As you grow up, you find out that being alone is really the bee's knees. Yeah, you're real flexible when you're just alone. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But anyways, we're back to the original format. With that comes a little greenskeeping. We have a special giveaway that we've never done before. Very special. Thanks to our friends over at Cobra. We got a brand new Cobra King F7 driver. If you go on my Instagram, which is at Riggs Barstall. I posted me hitting a couple balls with this thing.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They're calling it the wood grain. I call it the guitar finish, it looks like. It's supposed to look kind of like an old school persimmon wood. It does. It's a little bit of a throwback. It is sexy. Let me tell you something. Riggs put that on Instagram, and it went wild in the office today.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So much so that office manager Brett and previously mentioned Frankie Borelli thought that the video was fake. They literally, the ball comes off so beautifully off this fucking. thing that people think it's fake. They thought I like, what is it? CGI. Well, yeah. They thought I CGIed the ball looking like that off the face. Office manager Brett said Photoshop, which made no sense. Yeah, he's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:08:20 CGI made the most sense. But if you watch the video, it looks like the ball disappears after you hit it. So here's how you get yourself a Cobra King F7 driver brand new. The thing is awesome. It's got a nice stiff shaft in it. Got to love a nice stiff shaft. You got to go on to iTunes. and leave a five-star review on the ForPlay podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You got to subscribe, leave a five-star review. Now, we have learned that when you leave reviews, they're very difficult to track, aka we can't track who left them. Which is good for you. iTunes and Apple do a good job of protecting your identity in terms of, you know, when you wear and when you leave a review. But it kind of sucks when we're trying to give cool shit away. Very good for your privacy.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Here's how it works. You take a screenshot of you leaving the review, post the review, take a screenshot, DM us, direct message us, the screenshot of your review on Instagram. We're at 4Play Pot on Instagram. We're going to go through all of our DMs. Over the next week, you got one week. Whoever leaves the best review and also follows us on Instagram and DMs us, the screenshot of the review on Instagram, wins a brand new Cobra King F7 driver that looks like woodgrain,
Starting point is 00:09:31 Berseminwood, slash guitar finish. Yep. And we are going to check if you're following us, so don't try and, because I think No sheisters out there. Yeah, I think Instagram DMs are open for everyone at all times. So you would hypothetically be able to DM us without following us. That's not going to fucking fly. You got to follow us.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Send us a review, iTunes, and that's how you potentially win a Cobra driver. This thing's awesome. I used it this last weekend. I played golf on Saturday with my boys. It looks so much like a guitar that whenever I would hit a good drive, my buddies would go, well, you really strum that one nicely, Rigsie. I like that. So there's a lot of good jokes to be had in there.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Sexy driver for free. Go do it we mentioned. and you can win it. Also, on Greenskeeping, we need a producer slash intern maybe two. We do. We are, Robbie Fox's role is going to be lessening, I believe. Yeah, he's graduating. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It's bittersweet. Honestly, he deserves it. It's good news for pretty much all of us. Well, it is good news for all of us. Rob has basically gotten too big for this show, which is fine. He's on to bigger and better things. It's fine. Also, the show has gotten too big for Rob at the same time because we need super golf-centric people.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We're getting our Instagrams blowing the fuck up. Our podcast blowing the fuck up. We're going to Augusta. We're going to all these places. We're getting ready to play rounds of golf with some PGA tour guys. We get all kinds of stuff in the works. We need guys that got our back to behind the scenes. Rob's got his hands in all kinds of different jars.
Starting point is 00:10:50 He's the MMA guy. He's at Star Wars shit. He loves it. He's doing great. Rob's getting replaced. He does do a great job for us. And another thing, he's just, but he's also not a golf guy, which he knew. We knew that coming in.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We were just looking for a hardworking guy to come in and help us out, edit the podcast, do some of our social. media stuff, go through our emails. Rob was the best in the world at that, but we need somebody who knows golf. So here's what you do. You email summer interns at barstoolsports.com. That's summer interns, one word, at barstoolsports. com.
Starting point is 00:11:19 In your subject line, include Fort Play, F-O-R-E-P-L-A-Y, include that of the subject line. Here's what we need. It's going to be paid. Everything's going to be paid, paid, paid, paid. You're going to get money. We need someone to produce the show. That means you've got to find guests. You've got to run and sort through all.
Starting point is 00:11:36 of our emails through all of our DMs when people send five-star reviews because they're trying to win a free driver from Cobra. You have to hold a video camera when we decide to spontaneously go shoot really cool videos. Times Square, you know, spring break around New York City. I don't know if you ever heard of it. Super viral. That shit happens spontaneously. You need to be able to do everything. Now, you don't have to come in and be some ninja right out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:11:56 A lot of that shit's easy to learn, but you need to be multi-talented. You need to be a cool guy that likes golf. Send an email. Summer interns at barcelopports. com. Include foreplay in the subject line. We need producers. We need interns.
Starting point is 00:12:08 We need people to run social media. All kinds of shit. If you're out there, you think this sounds like you. We're looking for you. Email us, email us, email us. Did I miss anything, Trent? No, I don't think so. I think you nailed it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Also, just got to work hard. Be ready to work hard. That's the best thing that Rob ever did at this place. Rob's greatest attribute. He's a hard worker. He's a yes man. You ever asked him if he can do anything. He just says yes.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And then either fails or tries to do it, which is great. So you got to be like that. You got to be like Rob. We need a new Rob. We need a couple new robs. We're looking for you. Find us. We'll find you. Also, merch. Merch. Unbelievably. Unbelievable merch. We got more stuff coming out.
Starting point is 00:12:42 This weekend. We're going to have brand new stuff coming out. Little teaser there. You're really going to like that. We've already, last week we launched, or Masters Week, we launched our new polos. Yep, the green and the spring-themed ones. Spring-themed, in air quotes. Wink. Spring-themed polos. Those are selling like crazy. People love them.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And they shipped right away. We've already got people sending us pictures of them. Which is rare. Which is rare. It's got to feel good. It's bar still running like a well-ed machine for the first time and forever. And, yeah, I mean, what else do we got? Oh, we got the I Love 4 Play Coosies, which are hot in the streets. Those are hot.
Starting point is 00:13:14 The towels are still going nuts. Anytime I see one of those, they look so sexy. I think those are selling so well. We got the standards for the boys towel. We also got just the classic bars to a blue and red logo towel. We took a bunch of merch down to Augusta with us to give out, you know, because we're awesome people. And people were almost fighting over those golf towels. That's how awesome they are.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Old men were coming off the streets that had never. heard of barstool before like i gotta get one of those fucking towels i golf on saturdays i feel like i'm a boy at heart i give me one of those fucking towels go to the store barstool sports store go to the four play section we got all kinds of good stuff in there on to uh a little i don't really know what we call this was a riggs golf minute i'm i toyed with calling it the four four play update the four four four play like before we get into the four play podcast it's like a little four play on four play we'll workshop that we got to workshop that big week for four play guys we obviously had our boy Wesley Brian earn his first PGA tour win.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Golf claps everywhere. Also down on Hilton Head, we had Ali Schneider Jans, finished T3. Ryan Palmer finished T11. I don't want to mention it, but I do have to. Our boy Jim Herman posted a crazy 12 over to miss the cut down in Harbourtown. So hopefully he turns around a little bit. Frankie Borelli, who's maybe the most famous four-play guy that we've ever had, as we mentioned. He had a nice week off, spent a lovely weekend up in Long Island
Starting point is 00:14:33 with his buddies. Have to update about you on Frankie Borelli, the most famous four player there is. But back to Wesley Bryan. First win, RBC Heritage. Pretty jam-packed leaderboard. What did you think of the weekend, Trent? It was great because it's what we're talking about now, that all of our, like, we were headed, we were almost headed towards a four-play play playoff.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Which would have been great. Which would have been awesome just going into it knowing that one of our guys was going to win. Ollie's up there, Wesley's up there, Palmer's a little bit back, but he's still up there. I didn't know how excited I would get when one of our guys was in. it's way more fun when one of our guys is involved. It really is. Especially, you know they're a great dude.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You've heard some stories. You've talked to a little bit. You know a little bit what's under the hood. Wesley was maybe one of our most popular guests we've had outside of Frankie Borelli. Yeah. And he was kind of, this was more of a win than if situation. Here are his last couple finishes. T4, T7, 69.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Nice. Tie for 62 and number one at the RBC Heritage. So he's been trending in this direction. Speaking of 69, he also opened with a 69. at Harbortown. Nice. Kind of a theme. Nice.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But he went 69, 67, 67, 68, 67. All four rounds in the 60s. He also had three wins last year on the web.com tour. It was just a matter of time for this dude. It's a great story, too. And we told it when we had him on our episode, go back and listen to it. He's a trick-shot guy who, you know, the Wesley brothers. Everybody knows who those guys are.
Starting point is 00:15:54 The Brian Brons. The Brian Brose. Sorry, Brian Brose. No, I was trying to think of it, too, because you get with bros and brothers and and Bryans, there's all kinds of shit going on. Brian Bros. So then he got him. He's going to try his hand of professional golf.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You think, okay, here comes a trick shot guy. He's going to fade out. Three wins on the web.com tour. He's a rookie this year, gets his first win. I mean, yeah, and he was one of our best guests on this show. He's got personality, as we saw afterwards, talking to Jim Nance and Nick Faldo. Hey, what was like out there? You're thinking, oh, you know, I knew I was going to win.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I was a little nervous, blah, blah, blah. Wesley comes out and says, no, I was so nervous. I puked in my own mouth. I was really confused because he prefaced that by being like, I didn't feel nervous at all. So was that him being like just kidding? I was nervous as fuck or what? The way that I read it, because Jim Nance said the same thing. Jim was like, you didn't seem nervous at all.
Starting point is 00:16:41 He doesn't. He looks so cool, calm and collected. He does. It's almost like his tempo slows down when he's nervous or in contention. I thought he was saying I was, didn't, I was not nervous. But then once I saw the wind, like coming down the barrel, that's when I threw up a little bit. And then he kind of fit. Because he said, what was it, on 17 that he threw up?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah. So he only had a couple holes left. that's what I think he meant. Because there's a lot of trouble on 17, that little tough little part three. Somebody had a whole-on-one-one on 17 yesterday. Oh, it's Molanari. Yeah, you're right. Molanari.
Starting point is 00:17:12 That's always exciting. Love a nice ace. So, yeah, that was, I mean, he looks, Wesley looks smooth. His putting stroke is silky. He's just going to keep winning. I feel like he's one of those good players. I don't know how many times we can keep saying that about young guys,
Starting point is 00:17:27 because eventually there's only so many goddamn tournaments that people come in. Wesley feels very real. He's very real. His outfits are pretty, pretty crazy, too. Pink, the aggressive hot pink pants yesterday? Hot pink pants, bright blue shirts. With that, too, with that red plaid coat that you win, the jacket. The pink pants with that jacket.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Not sure I feel about the RBC doing plaid jackets. It's a little too soon after the Masters. Like, you're getting overshadowed for sure. Yeah, it's always been a little weird. And, I mean, it's hard to get that up for this. I was flipping back and forth Sunday because my blues were on. If there's one sports team that I care about being from, from St. Louis and being a hockey guy, it's the St. Louis Blues.
Starting point is 00:18:03 So they're on at the same time. I was trying to flip back and forth. We had a jam-pack leaderboard at one point. They're like 12 guys with like two shots of the lead. It was awesome. Coming down the stretch. They thought, they asked one of the commentators what they thought. The day it already started, they're like, what do you think the posted score is going to win this tournament?
Starting point is 00:18:19 It was 16 under. That's what he said it was going to be. Nope. Didn't go that way. Guys started coming back a little bit. Duffner we're going to talk about. But, you know, it was awesome seeing Wesley win. I want to go back and actually say I like the plaid jacket.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I like that was a quick you just I didn't even say anything you reversaled yourself here's the thing I was thinking about it and I want more tournaments to give out jackets like that so I don't want to shit on the one that does really you literally just have the exact opposite opinion because I don't know 90 seconds ago because if the tournament was further away from the masters I would really like it it just feels like all right we're now we're just putting on jackets do you think they're like trying to piggyback like yeah we'll just fucking everybody's getting jackets yeah yeah yeah all right I don't I mean I'm looking at his picture right now it's, the pink looks better than I thought. It's still, I mean, the pink's going to look a little preposterous with anything. Yeah. With those pants.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Wesley went to Taco Bell right afterwards, I saw. Big Taco Bell guy. What's your go-to order at Taco Bell? My go-to-order is a CrunchRap Supreme chicken and a cassidia. Which kind of cassidia? Chicken. So, see, I go chicken cassidy as well. And I usually get five tacos as well.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I get three soft and two hard tacos. He said five, Rob. He didn't say. That's crazy. That's crazy. He said five. No, I get three soft and two hard tacos because I really like both textures, but I don't like five of one. So I like to mix it up.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That's my go-to. You yelled at me over Taco Bell once because I said that the AM Crunch Wrap was the greatest fast food breakfast of all time. Riggs told me I was dumb and I could never be smart. Well, you did it in a more general sense than that. We were talking about breakfast food or general. You said Taco Bell has the best breakfast. And I was like, what? Yeah, that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That is wrong. McDonald's is the best breakfast. Right. So that was where I was like, Rob, I'm going to fight you. You're talking singular items is what you're talking about. I don't know. I'd have to think about that. But, and if I'm feeling frisky, I'll do a couple of cheesy gordita crunches.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Okay. See, my order doesn't really change ever. I know, like, that's my maximum I can eat. When I get to Taco 4 and 5, it's a grind. Yeah. But, like, you know, it's so delicious. It's so delicious. Taco Bell is the best.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Sometimes all, Taco Bell is a place. I'll drop 20 bucks, 25 bucks if I want to. And just be just a piece of shit. for the whole night. So speaking of people that probably love Taco Bell, Duff Daddy, Chubby Duff's back. He was in the mix, in the lead, one-stroke league going into Sunday. He shot a 76. He just kind of sucked dick on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah. I really didn't see that coming. No, and it's disappointing because we've all wanted Duff back. He's faded. He's faded for a while now, and he got skinny, which nobody likes. Now he got skinny and then, like, got a divorce at the same time. It was like two just really bad vibe. Those two have to be connected.
Starting point is 00:21:00 They have to be like either Amanda Duffner was like, you got to get skinny or I'm leaving, but then he got skinny anyway. I think it was a result of the divorce. I'm going to get skinny and I'm going to try to look better and maybe win her back. Don't do any of that shit. You want a major fat. You got her when you were fat. Always stay fat because he looks better.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I think he plays better and people root for him. Yeah, and I thought that was kind of where he was trending. Maybe he still is. He just had a tough Sunday. I really didn't see that Sunday coming out of him because he's a, he's one of those. So the guys that under pressure, he seems pretty cool, pretty calm. You know, he doesn't show much emotion. So you wouldn't think that Sunday would really get him.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He's a major champ. And he's made it to another, he's made it to another major playoff. Yeah. He had with Keegan. So, I mean, he's been there before. I really didn't see that coming. I guess it's been a while. Calm isn't even the best way to describe Jason Duffner.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's like he's borderline asleep all the time. Yeah. He's just a walking, golfing, a sleep person? He hit one into the water the other day? Yeah. It was a hell of a description. Thank you. He hit one.
Starting point is 00:21:58 of the water late down the stretch yesterday, and it looked like he could either hit a hole in one or into the water, down the middle of the fairway. It's all the same for him. Yeah, I like too, that the course, like when those guys were saying 16, 17-17-under was going to win it, I always like when the course holds up, defends itself. It's a Pete Dye track. It's very tricky, and it proved that on Sunday, which was great. 13-under winning in on the PGA tour. That is not that deep. No. So it's good. It's a good little week. It's nice to see, like I said, a course, play tough after the Masters. You hate going from a major championship venue
Starting point is 00:22:32 where guys are battling and struggling under the most intense pressure to some, you know, cakewalk. Yeah. You don't ever like to see that. So, you know, what are you going to say? After the Masters, followed it up with our guy, Wesley Bryan, winning over in Hilton Head. I've been there, by the way.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Okay. I never played the track. I didn't have enough money. So we ran out under the 18th Fairway real quick, in between groups playing by. Yeah. And took a couple pictures in front of that lighthouse. Oh, I thought you were going to say we dropped
Starting point is 00:22:56 a couple balls and hit. No, we didn't have any clubs with us either. We just ran out there real quick, took a picture, and then ran away. That's pretty good story. We felt like we had stolen something. Yeah, you had. We were just running out like on Earth. Yeah, that is weird when you think about it that way.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah. You could just walk on. It's just a slab of Earth. Yeah, that's it. But, all right. Just earth and grass and stuff with a nice lighthouse. So we took a picture. I'll have to dig that one up.
Starting point is 00:23:17 On the headlines. Trent, I know you always like to do headlines. Walk us through some headlines. All right. Let's start off with spring break, 2K7, wrapped up. Baker's Bay, round two in the books. Our guy Smiley, Spieth, JT, Ricky. Any thoughts on it?
Starting point is 00:23:33 I mean... Who do you got for your MVP? Hmm. I know. My answer is Ricky. Really? And I'll tell you why. Why?
Starting point is 00:23:41 And I'm mad about this. These guys, all the other guys, brought their girlfriends. I don't like that. Oh. I don't like that. I don't like that. But I will say this, they brought them later. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:52 According to what it looked like? Were they just not showing them? I think it's, I want to say what you're saying, but I don't think it is. Really? Yes. See, that would be a game changer for me. Like, if those, if the chicks were there the whole time, pretty brutal and kudos to Ricky for being like, no, no, no, we already talked to you and I talked about how cool it is to be alone. Flexibility, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Oh. So that would suck. I think that they did like, no, ladies, we're going for three days. Boys are going to be boys. We'll see you guys on the fourth day or whatever. I hope that's true, but I really feel like it's not. Mine was going to be smiling, just because I think he gets the drunkest. Yeah, he definitely got the drunkest in the first year.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I think it's probably true this year. They were jumping off yachts and stuff. Yep. If for anybody doesn't know what we're talking about, there was the picture that Ricky took at the Rider Cup where all the couples were kissing and he's doing the-wags. With the wags. He's shrugging like, oh, man. And then he took another one at Baker's Bay where he's shrugging and all the, I wrote in the blog.
Starting point is 00:24:48 He's doing all due respect to the other guys and their girlfriends, I bet that's very nice. I bet that's steady and they like that. Sounds lovely. They like that constant, you know, in their life. Security. Being young and rich, good-looking, great tan, great hair. Professional athlete. Professional athlete.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Part of like the rat pack of your sport. Ricky has to just have so much fun with that. And he knows these pictures just pull in more tail. Every chick that sees that picture is like, oh. You need somebody, Ricky. Oh. Here I come. Here I come.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Let me slide in your DMs. Yeah, I felt that way immediately after the Ryder Cup where, because in the picture it's like Oh, I'm such a loser I'm a girl, bro. He knows exactly what he is doing. After the Ryder Cup, I guarantee he went out a better time with whoever he was with,
Starting point is 00:25:33 whichever girl. All those other guys had to be at home by 10 p.m. with their kids, reading them bedtime stories. Same thing, probably a little different in spring break because they're all younger. Yep. I still bet Ricky had the best time. I mean, he's basically drawing a viral message
Starting point is 00:25:48 that says, I'm single. Yeah. So. That picture that I put up on our Instagram got the most likes that we've ever had. Exactly. Because people are like, this is the best. He's done that twice now in less than a year.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So he's basically, he's, we've always known, Ricky's a genius marketer. Go to a fucking PGA tournament and tell me how many kids are around Sunday with giant orange Puma hats and outfits on. When we were in Augusta, Rob was like, oh, man, if Ricky is in the lead, I wish I was going to bring an all orange Puma outfit. Right. Not just an all orange puma outfit, my orange.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I bought it. You have one. Yes. See? That's what I mean. So Ricky is a genius. marketer. We didn't know it extended all the way to like his
Starting point is 00:26:27 whatever you want to call it. Relationship life, romantic life, Bachelor lifestyle, whatever it is. Kudos to Ricky. He dominated. Very understandable that you made him as your MVP. I might have to re-evaluate my thinking there. Okay. Next headline. I really like this one.
Starting point is 00:26:46 This one's great. This is a nice feel-good story. Ian Poulter is at risk of losing his PJ Tour card. I will read the article just so we can all be on the same page. Take your time, Tray. Okay, all right. Let me get settled in here. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Ian Polter has been playing on a medical extension after suffering a foot injury that kept him off the course for much of 2016. Sad. According to gulfchannel.com, Poulter needs to make $30,000, $624 at the Valero, Texas open to keep his tour eligibility for the remainder of the season. Otherwise, the Rider Cup star will struggle to get into any tour events without sponsor exemptions. Woo-hoo!
Starting point is 00:27:22 What a story. That just feels really nice. This fucking guy, the guy who historically has thrown people under the bus, he's a piece of shit. He tries to get normal guys fired from their jobs. He basically tries to get everyone to lose their job, and now he's losing his job. Oh, the sweet, sweet irony, Rob's adjusting our levels because we're yelling because we're excited. We're so excited about this nice, feel-good story. If you don't have anything to root for next week while you're watching golf, I don't care if you're a golf fan, I don't care if you're not a golf fan.
Starting point is 00:27:51 We looked it up. Poulter, he has to make $30,000, $624, $30,624. That's basically top 40. Yeah, so we're dumb, but our best estimation is he's got to finish like top 40, top 39, 38, something like that. If he had been one stroke less this week, he would have blown by, he would have jumped up a couple spots and blown by what he needed. So this is Shakespearean, it's beautiful, just root against Ian Poulter getting into the top 40. Just hope he misses the cut. I don't.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I want it to come down the stretch because it's going to hurt so much more. If he, like, bogey 17 and 18 to finish 41st or something, that would be awesome. You're so right. Awesome. And he is very prone to implosion. When he gets frustrated, it makes it so much better. He got frustrated at the end of yesterday. He three-putted down the stretch, I want to say, 15 or 16, and the wheels just kind of came off.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I love it. I'm very excited to follow this drama this weekend. Again, what a great feel-good story. I almost want to keep talking about it, but we'll move on to this just came out this week. Jordan Spieth and our pal Ryan Palmer are teaming up at the Zurich Classic. For anyone that doesn't know, that is the tournament coming up that's down in New Orleans, which is a team event. Yeah, it was funny because he told us that he plays quite a bit in practice rounds with Jordan, which we didn't really know going in.
Starting point is 00:29:14 A couple Texas boys. A couple Texas boys. They're buddies, their homies, teaming up. I, that's very exciting. They were going to have one of our guys teaming up with Jorda. Yeah, it's the first team event on tour since 1981. It's really a no-brainer, too. I was reading an article, I want to get all this right, but I'm probably not going to,
Starting point is 00:29:34 but it was basically talking about how the field for the Zurich Classic over the last several years has diminished drastically in, you know, in terms of kind of star power. Yeah. And now there's something like seven or eight of the top ten players in the world are playing. Oh, I had it pulled up. I had it pulled up the like Matsuyama's playing. All these guys are playing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So it was a no fucking brainer. Team events are awesome. That's why the Ryder Cup does so well. That's why the President's Cup does so well. Which we can just hope now that other events that are struggling to get big fields are going to be like, oh, let's switch to a team format. I think we might see a domino effect. Yeah, I think we really need, and I still might write a blog on this, we really need a team match play event. Why don't they do that?
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know. That would be awesome. This one's obviously a stroke play. I think it's something like best ball alternate shot, best ball alternate shot or something, two rounds of each. And it's a total stroke play. But anyways, I think they really need that. Awesome to see these two guys in it. We'll be pulling for them, of course.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Absolutely. Ryan Palmer, that's our guy. And, you know, we like speed. Love speed. Last headline of the day. Rory McElroy is set to get married on Saturday. I'll read this article too so we can get all the information. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:42 According to multiple news outlets, Roy McElroy is scheduled to marry Erica Stoll on Saturday, April 22nd. The Belfast Telegraph reports the ceremony will take place at Ireland's Ashford Castle in what's being billed as, get this, the wedding of the decade. Oh.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The timing is in line with McElroyal reporters at the conclusion of the Masters when asked about tying the knot. I'm excited. He said it's a great time in my life. It would have been nice to walk down the aisle
Starting point is 00:31:06 in a green jacket. That's true and all that. Have you seen this fucking Ashford Castle? No. It's unreal. It's amazing. I looked it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I mean RIP, Carolyn Wozniak. Oh. Oh, yeah. She, none of this is good news for her. None of this. She's, I just saw she's dating David Lee, NBA basketball players. Okay. She's definitely saw this news and was like, I have to be dating somebody.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah. I can't not be dating someone. Because as you know right now, as people are reading this Roy News, they're like, what's Carolyn Wozniakie up to? It can't Google it and just be like, oh, she's taking swimsuit selfies. It's got to come up in the feed saying, oh, she's dating a pro basketball player. She's doing okay. Yeah, I mean, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Rory, getting married, hot chick in a castle. That's just, that's tough to swallow. She, Erica Stoll is the girl who, back in the 2012 Rider Cup, when Roy almost missed his tea time, she apparently was pivotal in getting him from wherever he was, which is still, I don't know, and getting him to the
Starting point is 00:32:02 course in time to make it see that. Yeah, she used to work for like PGA tour or PGATor media or something like that. PGA of America was, I think is what it was. So, so yeah, that'll be sweet. Again, RIP Oziaki, that's just nobody likes to see that. Yeah, and you know what? I like to see Roy happy. I hope, I've, that that letting's going to be off the chain.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You got to look up this castle when we're done. I'm going to check out the castle. I'm excited to see the castle. A big castle guy. You are? Yeah, who's not. I mean, anybody who knows... Does it have a moat?
Starting point is 00:32:28 I don't think it has a moat. You got to have a moat. It could have a moat. I didn't really... I just saw pictures of it. I think they said they use it in movies and shit. You can look it up right now if you were. It's tough to use it in movies if you don't have a moat.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I feel like it's probably got a moat. Probably got a moat. I didn't look that close. All right, we're going to do a little player feelings. up back to the Masters a little bit. I wanted to do a quick little discussion on Justin Rose. It's going to be quick, I think, because he is... Not much to Justin Rose.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Here's the thing. He's boring. Definitely boring, but I don't dislike him. No, and that's a bad spot to be for... I think I like my golfers. I don't like being indifferent about my golfers. No, neither do I, which sucks. As much as I hate Bryce and Deschambo, Bubba Watson, fucking Ian Poulter, about to lose his card, I like not liking those guys.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah, I love it. And I like liking Rory and Spieth and Ricky and JT. So to be in, it's tough for me to have an opinion on JT. and that's not a place you want to be if you want to be sort of, there's a word I'm looking for that I can't think of. Not JT. JR. Yeah. Rosie. Yeah, Rosie.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So he's in a weird spot. He is. I'm with you where that when it's somebody that I dislike, I want them on the leaderboard because then I root against them. Right. When Justin Rose's name pops up in the label, I'm just like, eh. Right. So I was rooting. So I don't like Sergio Garcia at all.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was rooting for Justin Rose by default because... But you weren't excited about it. Right. I was just like, oh, great. I got it. It's the lesser of two evils. Yeah, I did like to see him hitting a couple balls off of a yacht into an ocean over, like, jet skis this week. Somebody tweeted me after we put that up or whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:02 That was like, is this just like a cry for help that he wants to go on the spring break trips with those guys? He's just like hitting a ball by himself into the ocean. Like, right, like a couple islands over. Okay, gang. You guys see my ball come over here anywhere? It would have been so great if the camera had panned over and it was Baker's Bay and like those guys on like the eighth green. Yeah, that would have been great. Yeah, like chugging a drink and jumping off a yacht doing like a flip.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Hey guys, what's up? Yeah, so that's how we feel about Rosie. On to our interview portion of the show. We got a big one. We've been going back and forth with him for a while trying to figure out best time to do it. But, you know, he's an outspoken guy. He's a major champion. He's won a couple players championships.
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Starting point is 00:36:17 Get it, Drizzly. Let's do this. All right. Now we are joined by Steve Elkington. Big Elk, is it, it's cool if we call you elk? Big Elk may not be in there, but let's just go with elk. Perfect. We'll call you elk.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Big Elk would be my dad. Oh, okay. There you go. So, yeah, we kind of talked about it a little bit beforehand, but your son, Sam, is, you Because, you know, we've talked with him quite a bit. He's friends with a couple of our guys and all that. So, yeah, we're curious. Do you know much about Barstool or follow it at all?
Starting point is 00:36:51 I do. I followed it on Twitter. I know you guys were down here for the Super Bowl. Sam said he went down to watch you guys and was like standing room only. You guys have sort of – so I'm in the same business a little bit as you guys. Mine's more just golf instruction. But is there a focus point for you guys other than the – is it an age? It seemed like you've captured the college guys.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Is that right? Yeah. So it's funny because we do have a lot of, you know, kids, a lot of the guys in college that are kind of, you know, like to just have a good time, like to, let's say, not be necessarily politically correct, that kind of crew. They kind of gravitate to us quite a bit. So it does make sense that we figure to be a good guess
Starting point is 00:37:36 because I don't think you're a huge politically correct guy. Well, I live in Texas, mate. So we have guns. I think I've got three squirrels, afternoon that were in my cedar two with one shot which was really I'm really fired up about that and my caddy over at the champions club greenwood greenwood told me that if I shot three he wanted to eat them and he and green and I couldn't do it mate I had they they seized up I had to go to the store and get some drink and now the squirrels are out there they've all seized up and the
Starting point is 00:38:08 flies run so man I had to ditch him greenwood's going to be upset with me see that's where talking about that's right up our alley yeah we uh yeah but i would say that's pretty much our brand we like our you know our followers like to just have a good time trent and i you know we cover the golf we're huge golfers were huge fans of the game and uh you've actually been one of my dad's favorites for a long time now i saw you guys or somebody was at augusta right i saw a picture you posted that was us yeah me and riggs were at augusta yeah so i was there all week and um course you know you know this is better than i do you can't have phones so and then sam came in on the week can because he had school but what did you guys it was first time right it was our first time down
Starting point is 00:38:48 there and i'm interviewing you guys now yeah i was going to say yeah right i like that it's a little roll reversal but yeah it was our first time down there we went in for the first time on tuesday and we just were basically starstruck by the entire by the entire place the entire operation national forest right that's exactly what it felt like it was that way because we walked the course like riggs is saying on tuesday and then you remember oh yeah like the greatest players in the world are coming. Like Rory's coming down the fairway. You forget because you're there to see the golf course itself that, oh yeah, also the greatest players in the world are going to be here. Yeah, you're sort of preoccupied with what you're standing on. It looks like it's AstroTurf, right?
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's exactly how we felt. A little known fact about you guys is up at the clubhouse area, they built a new building over on Berkman Road. I don't know if you guys heard of the Berkman's. It's cost like 10,000. It's got five restaurants in there, got chipping greens and all. That was, Berkman's was the name of the original nursery that was there when Bobby Jones and Clifford Roberts bought the property, and there's a road that borders the Augusta called Berkman. So they named that Berkman's place, and they did that to take away, and the reason I'm telling you this has an ending, the reason they did that was to take away pressure from the corporate people. I know you guys weren't in Berkman's, because that's five, that's 10 grand a ticket.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh, no, we're not the kind of people that go into Berkman's. But up at the clubhouse, they left that for, all the major champions like me, mate, so you guys can wander up there and have a little look at us, like we're in the zoo. I was going to say you guys are like your zoo animals. Have you ever seen one single rope right up there that's got more power than the one of Augusta's like one quarter of an inch thickness? It's better than the velvet rope in some downtown Manhattan strip joint, isn't it? And, Elk, that's how we felt the whole time. I mean, we just, anytime we saw somebody in a green jacket or somebody behind some ropes, we just looked at them like they were gods the whole time.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Is there any more power than that little rope there up at Augusta? No, those ropes, they were terrified. We kept saying we felt like if our arm went across it, that it would just, like, get shot or zapped or something. Yeah, you get shocked, thrown out. Yeah, exactly. Pass would be obliterated forever, and everyone that you know would they would be detected and turned out
Starting point is 00:40:54 and maybe assassinated. That's the thing. That's the type of thing. It's not only they'll go after you, but they'll just take out your whole family like nobody ever existed. That's right. And that's really, you know what? It's one of the great things,
Starting point is 00:41:05 about America is that place they run it. They have their own rules, right? So watch this. So I'm a major champ. I won the PGA in 1995, and Sam and I and our daughter and wife and every week. We go up there. We love going to the masses, and why wouldn't we, right? That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:20 We go up there and Sam and I, we have friends that are members there, and we actually get to go up there and play as a father and son, which is probably the best experience in the world. So we've used our tickets, right? We've used our tickets all, you know, through the years. Well, they made a rule. I don't know if you guys heard this. where they didn't let
Starting point is 00:41:36 now. So now there's a new rule on the par three course all of us, the major champs, could normally play on that. Did you read or did you hear? Yeah, they cut back on that this year, right? They cut back on that, right? So I never played that anyway. I used to say to myself when I was playing in the tournament, I think I played in 13
Starting point is 00:41:52 masters, why is these old codgers playing in this par three event? Get out of here, get back over there where you belong. So I never would play in a par three. But so watch this. So I call up there and they say that, well, we're only letting you and your wife have tickets now as a major champion, not the children. But because you and Sam come every year, you get them, but others don't that haven't been coming up here. So they have this sort of – I kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, they have rules for each different person. Don't you love that? Yeah, well, they're rewarding your loyalty for going every year. Exactly. So I'm curious, how much has the place changed? I think it was, was it 93 when you had your best finish, which was third place? I think I finished twice, third. 93, 95.
Starting point is 00:42:45 How much has the place changed since those years? The course, not so much. The greens, probably very little. The length of the course, the course is way back. I was there two weeks before they played the tournament. I went up and played the course, and I caught it on a real cold day, but, mate, the course is so long. I mean, I know for you guys,
Starting point is 00:43:04 and you're trying to listen to people that are listening to this podcast, and I know for you two guys that play golf when you stand on the T, because I know what it's like for me now, and you look up that first fairway, I guarantee you guys are gobsmacked. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You cannot even believe how far that bunker is up there on the right, right? Yeah, it's crazy. It's not even believable how far, how much the course. We used to go back to Augusta, and they used to not tell us what the chat. Rangers were. And I remember one year, Davis Love got on the first tee, and we were swinging and practice swing.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And he said, he said to the president at the time, I think it was Mr. Stevens from Arkansas. He said, have you guys, have you guys lengthened this hole? And he said, no. And he said, well, either you've moved this tea or you've moved the clubhouse. They used to not tell us. I got stuck. I went down a rabbit hole this past weekend of going through all the course change. And they were talking about how on, I think it's the fourth hole, the long part three, how for like 20 years they just lied about the ardage. And they just like didn't change. They changed the aridage, but just didn't tell anybody. Yeah, so, you know, Augusta, which I like, I think is one of the last great frontiers of, I would say it's the political incorrectness of all time.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Now, how has it changed? Well, you know, the infrastructure around it, as you guys saw, it's almost like going to Disney. in fact, one of my friends who's a member remains anonymous, told me that they did, they bought Disney in and asked them how they could improve the property. And the only thing that Disney could tell them that they could maybe put a perimeter road around it so they could come in like the spokes on a wheel to redo everything, underground, from underground. So they have tunnels there now. So my catty possum, who's up there, and possum's in charge of, I don't know his real names.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I don't even ask. Possum. We won't. He's in charge of taking care of the members, the green coats, while they're on property, and he runs a little cart barn. So he feels like he's got a lot of power. So I saw Possum up there. And he said, hey, you've got to come see, you've got to come see the tunnels.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And I go, okay, here we go. So I get in the, I get in the, so you guys, for you guys, orientation-wise, I would have been near the old driving range of the tunnel that goes under right there, all the way back now to the new press. room. So guys that come off the 18th green, they take them straight into the tunnel and the tunnels all the way back under the new driving range, all the way back to that press room. But then as I was going through the tunnel, it looked like the Boston Tunnel with all kind of lights and everything and attendance. I saw not one, two, I saw three wings off to the left and a couple
Starting point is 00:45:47 to the right. I'm like, where they go? Possibly goes, mate, I don't know. I don't know. Well, we kept talking because guys, somebody would have a rules violation question on the green on 11th Green, and somebody waved their hand, and it looked like officials were coming out of the damn trees. Yeah, everybody, every, every whole of Augusta has a, what they would call a certified rules guy, and then a corresponding one from one of the major organizations. And you know what, to be honest with you, that's the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Instead of a guy walking with every group, just have one stationed, you know. And, you know, so if there is, you know, as you guys know, there's been Roberto DeVicento signed the wrong scorecard at the Maasasas to lose could you imagine an infraction now at Augusta you know I mean what drama right? No that would be chaotic
Starting point is 00:46:41 so we got to ask your what were your thoughts down the stretch obviously it kind of turned in on the back nine to a two-man race with Sergio and Justin Rose do you are pulling for anybody I was just curious to see how everything was going to shake out Justin Rosen's proven himself, you know, over and over. That guy, he's very stoic guy. I really like him.
Starting point is 00:47:01 He comes across as being real English and real proper, but he's a good sum of a bitch. He'll sit there and have a couple of whiskeys with you if you want to. I like that. And Sergio's, you know, very unpredictable. You know, he's a nice kid. You know, we've all seen him come out, and he got so much game.
Starting point is 00:47:20 This guy had so much smash on the ball, right? we have a thing, you know, you guys have heard of Track Man, right? Yep, yep. So Trackman is a measuring device that measures every, it was built in by a Dutchman. They put them on warships to capture the data on missiles off ships. Well, we use them in golf now so we can measure angle of attack, you know, slice, all this stuff. Well, Trackman has a stat that I like. It's called Smash Factor.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I don't know if you guys have heard Smash Factor. I love the name. Yeah. And this could get me in trouble with all your people because they may turn this into like a chick, like a smash factor. Oh, I like that. You did that. You did that.
Starting point is 00:48:08 We didn't do that. We're going to start talking about chicks baseball and their Smash Factor. I would have jumped ahead of the curve. I don't even be honest. I don't think I would have put those two together, but you did, and I love it. So what do you think about this chick's smash factor here? So 1.52 is this high. smash factor you can do, which is all the
Starting point is 00:48:24 stats combined that makes you the most the less amount of dispersion on any of the stats combined come up with the most smash factor is 1.52. That could be a bar stool hashtag 1.52. It would be very underground, which is kind of you guys.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Right beyond something here. Could be on the something. But anyway, Sergio is a big smash factor guy. He's always had big smash. But he always, he always sort of, I don't know, really emotional. with Jackie Burke, who's 94 years old. He won the 56 Masters, and he said, you know, when he bogeed, you know, 11 and 10, 11, and Jackie Burke turned to me, he said, this guy always
Starting point is 00:49:04 seems to stand on his jockstrap. So, you know, that's old school. I mean, I don't even know if your people know what a jockstrap is, but hey, we can throw one up to show him. I'm an old hockey guy. I used to rock a jockstrap back in the day. Yeah, you know jockstrap. Oh, yeah. So 1.52 is big smash factor. And you know what? I talked to a few people and I was just curious and I think nobody was more curious than Sergio himself was how he was going to handle what he did. And it's a very rare, it's a very unusual air that's out there.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I've been in it. It's, you know, once you get to swinging out there and you're hitting it good, like, I mean, are you kidding me we'll drive an eight iron to the 15th hole to make an eagle yeah you gotta be shitting me and under that pressure and there were we we've talked yeah but an adine i'm like that's that's like me smash factor smash factor three would yeah and it's crazy because they were like five different times that we thought oh this is where Sergio collapses and we don't see yeah exactly so you know when you think back at some of these statistics that are now coming out about Sturgio where he didn't have a three putt for the week,
Starting point is 00:50:22 or he didn't take his shoe off and throw it into the gallery, or he didn't get a lugie and put it in the hole after he putt it. All these statistics now become more meaningful now that he's won the masters, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because he would sort of melt down his own deal, right? Yeah, we kept waiting for it. I think it's maturity, mate. I think he's got to, you know, he's engaged and, mate, he's probably down to his last
Starting point is 00:50:48 150 million, wouldn't you think? Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough spot to be in, I would imagine. Lives in Switzerland. I mean, he has a Cadillac and he tows another one. I mean, that's his deal. That's not a bad deal. That's way different than what we do.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yes. Yeah. I've seen your office. Yeah. It's a shithole. It's a goddamn shithole. It's a goddamn shithole. You should have seen where we've been recording our podcast from.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But, uh, so sticking with, with the masters, the big news going into that week was Dustin Johnson came down with a bit of a back injury. What were your thoughts on that? whole situation. How does something like that happen? I don't know, mate. I really don't. I don't know. You know, there's all kind of conspiracy theories out there. A lot of conspiracy theories. Lots of them, whether he, you know, whatever. You know, he's... Go ahead, Elk. Well, no, no, I kind of discovered Dustin Johnson. When I, I'll tell you Dustin Johnson's story.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So when he put the first tournament he ever played on tour, I got paired with him on a Saturday. We were playing at Torrey Pines, and we were tune off at like 7 o'clock off the back nine. It was foggy and cold. And, uh, and I, you know, I make this guy Dustin Johnson. You got this funky looking swing with the left wrist is all fucked up looking up tall. Can we say that? Oh yeah. You can say whatever you want. And, uh, and I play the whole deal and I shoot a really, really nice round.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And, um, I go back to my room and I'm, I'm staying with another guy on tour. And I say, hey, I think I just played with the next best player I've ever seen. And he goes, no shit. Who was that? I said, Dustin Johnson. And he said, well, I've never heard of it. him what did he shoot and i said i think he shot an 80 and he said well how do you why would you think he's so good and i said i don't know i i just saw he you know he's just loose and uh limber and he's free flowing he attacks everything and he's got pretty nice touch but he kind of screwed up all these holes but anyway so i flew him up to pebble beach with me and i i i stay i got i played
Starting point is 00:52:47 three practice rounds with Dustin Johnson the next week. He wins that next week at Pebble Beach. So I'm back in L.A. for the next week as the Los Angeles Open. And I'm, what's our guy's name that is the logo for L.A. Lakers? The logo. Jerry West. Jerry West. You guys there?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Jerry West. Yeah, yeah. Trent nailed it. You know who he is? Jerry West. Oh, of course. Of course. I'm playing golf with Jerry West at Bel Air.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Dustin Johnson calls me, so I'm taking you guys to dinner. So I said, okay, so we're down at this bar in Malibu or somewhere with Jerry West and James Worth and all these guys. And Dustin Johnson's a rookie comes in and he goes, 10,000 in cash on the table. He goes, Elk took me up to Pebble Beach. He showed me how to talk to me about how to win this thing. He said, when you guys spend that, should I got another 10 in my pocket. Get out of here. He just has big cash in his pocket.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Just slaps it down. God, that's great. So, you know, he started getting in trouble a little bit. He was doing some crazy stuff. Probably no less or more crazy than most other guys that came out of college. And I saw him once or twice. And I said, look, man, I don't want to see your name in the paper. Let's just go with the golf thing.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Let's leave all the other. You know, I get it. I get it. So anyway, I think, so that was that was that. But he, well, I think Dustin Johnson is, you know, major gifted player. no doubt. I don't know what happened with the back. Who knows? Yeah, it was tough. It was tough to see because we were pulling for him. We were, you know, there. We wanted to see him play. We never really seen him up close before. So that kind of was shitty.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I had he picked as my guy. He was my guy. I had him pick for the win. Yeah, I was, I mean, it was going to be hard not to pick him. But anyways, who knows what happened? Hopefully he gets back soon. Moving on a little bit. We got, I think we're about four weeks out now from the players championship. You guys going down? So we were there about a month ago. And we went there for PGA Tour Media Day. We got to play the course. Have you been able to check out any of the renovations at all? Mate, I'm huge there, huge.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's your spot. I know. That's why we're going to bring it. 91 and 97. Are you guys going to it? So we're contemplating going. We have to convince our bosses that it's worth it. Man, I have the big show.
Starting point is 00:55:05 The big show, my bus. You know, it's the biggest bus in the world. You guys can pull it up on the thing, double-decker. I'm going to have it set up just down the street there. We're going to have a big, we have a bourbon tasting down there. So maybe, I don't want to predict anything, but maybe we should do a show from down there. I think we have to go now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah, I've got a bourbon sponsor, unnamed at the moment. We're going to do a show. We'll have some baby dolls come in there, you know, talk to you guys and all that kind of thing. What do you think about that? I think that sounds perfect. We're going to crush some bourbon and talk some golf with some baby dolls. Yeah, the baby dolls. Got to have the baby dolls.
Starting point is 00:55:40 The players is, yeah, it's a wonderful tournament. it's probably the hardest tournament to win because you have to have so much precision. You know, so many guys that have not been able to win that tournament. And for me, personally, I've done really well there. Obviously, I've won it twice, 91 and 97. But my game is perfectly suited for that because I'm kind of a sniper. You know, I hit it all pins and I'm a straight driver, so course perfect for me. Not so good for guys that are all over the show.
Starting point is 00:56:10 You know, wild hitters can't do squat. Well, yeah, you've won there twice, which is, I mean, look, Nicholas is the only one that's won more than twice. He won three times there, and only five guys has won there twice. I mean, is that what it is? You're just too good of a sniper, elk? I'm a sniper, mate. Jack never won at TPC. He hated that course.
Starting point is 00:56:26 He won across the street at Sawgrass, but Jack's my idol. He's the guy. But the best tournament I ever played probably from Thursday to Sunday was the 97 players that I won. and I led the tournament Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. You guys know what wire-to-wire is, right? You guys know that? Oh, yeah. You ended up winning by, what, seven shots there, I think?
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. But what's better? This is a bar stool trivia question. What is more ass-kicking than wire-to-wire? There's only about three guys I've ever done it in the history of the tour. What is more ass-kicking than wire-to-wire? What is more ass-kicking than wire-to-wire? Think about that for just a second.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Let that ponder. I don't think I don't think I know I know you don't know otherwise you would have just blurted it out more ice kicking than wire to wire is shooting the low round of the day on Sunday with the lead I guess I would guess you did that
Starting point is 00:57:30 is ass kicking that's an elk special because you guys know this you're young golfers if you go out with a lead in the afternoon is not likely. There's always someone's going to shoot a low round, and you may not shoot the low round, right?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Coming out last. So ass kicking is when you shoot the low round of the day in the last group. I respect the hell out of that. So what all are you going to be doing now there that week? Are we going to expect some partying? Are we going to expect just a bunch of bourbon tasting? What are we going to be doing? Yeah, well, yeah, I think A and I think what you said A and B,
Starting point is 00:58:06 was that two separate questions or was that? That's just kind of one question. We're just trying to get a feel for what you're going to be doing on there. is down there for my company. Secret Golfers down there. All my staff are there. So I'll be doing some stuff. But I'm going to go out on the course. And, you know, some of my
Starting point is 00:58:23 player, a lot of my players that are in my company are playing Duffner's playing Perez's playing Ryan Palmer, Co-Crack, Patton Kuzair, Brian Harmon. I've got like eight guys playing in the tournament, you know. So, yeah, it'll be a good time. We also got to talk. It's a President's Cup year.
Starting point is 00:58:39 You've played, I think, four Presidents' Cups, 94 through 2000. It's up actually near us at Liberty National this year. Terrible course. Terrible course. It looks terrible. Some guy couldn't have done a worse job if he just, you know, just played scrabble and just threw his hand out there. What don't we like about the course? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 It's hard, isn't it? I mean, it was a flat piece of land, and it doesn't look right, does it? Have you played it? I haven't played it yet. I think we might try to get out there before the President's Cup. You know, I doubt it. It's 500 and 500 a man. 600 a man, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:59:14 We'll have to work some connections. Yeah, connection. So what, I mean, President's Cup's obviously been tough for the internationals. I think U.S. is won 9 out of 11. What are the guys have to do this year to kind of turn it around? You know, it's the culture, right? I mean, the Americans, for some reason, have been able to really kick our ass in the President's Cup. And, you know, it's not so easy when you, and this is not an excuse, but it's not so easy when, you know, for those that don't know,
Starting point is 00:59:44 the President's Cup is a match between the American team and everyone else in the world except Europe. So we have Japan, Korea, you know, Australia, New Zealand, all the others. So, you know, we throw our deal together for a couple weeks, you know, beforehand we find out who it is and we've got to try to beat the Americans that know or one another. It's not so easy. Now, we won the match in Australia. Greg Norman and I were there and we played basically on our home course down at Royal Melbourne and we thumped the Americans down there and it was good but the President's Cup has lost you know lost steam um I mean the marketing machine for the tour they're going to make it work no matter what but uh the internationals uh you know they got to play better you know they I don't know
Starting point is 01:00:31 whether it's you know on their radar or not like all these world events that these guys have I mean, mate, you guys can't name me anyone that won a world event. None. Either one of you. There's no way. What's a world event? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, you know, like who won the world event last year, the world, whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I mean, the way the tour works, you guys remember who won Greensboro or won San Antonio or they won wherever, right? Yeah, it's very PGA tour focused. Yeah. So the world events, I just don't, I don't see it working. So it's going to be tough for the internationals. I mean, I feel like, you know, Ryder Cup, it's got all this passion, all this fire. I feel like the President's Cup doesn't really have that. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:20 The Ryder Cup, the Ryder Cup last year, now, I want to focus in on that a little bit. I think Patrick Reed, you know, last year was just so incredible. And now the guy hadn't showed up at all. It's almost like Ian Pulter, who was on their team. like he could play out of his ass on their team, but he can't play dead out on our tour, right? Now, I don't think Patrick Reed, I think Patrick Reed can play,
Starting point is 01:01:44 but to some reason they, you know, guys can excel in that, in that environment. And I think that the reason that is, is they can just go berserk with their, with their emotions, and the worst you can do is lose one hole. I actually think that you guys, I hope you remember on the 17th hole of the match between, Roy McElroy and Patrick Reed when they were just smoking it.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You remember coming out of the gate? Oh, yeah. It's great. And they came to that eighth hole and Rory made that 100 footer, remember? They're doing the finger wags, the whole deal? All that. And then Patrick Reed put it on top of him? Yeah, like a 25-footer.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I think that destroyed Roy McElroy. Real? I reckon that's changed his whole psyche. That was the biggest F-U moment that I've ever seen in golf. Patrick Greed just murdered Rory I do I think he changed his whole show Rory had that
Starting point is 01:02:41 and he was stomping up that green like he was getting ready to take over the world right Oh yeah he was yelling at the crowd the whole deal Yeah this guy pumps it in on top of him And Funny enough Not eight years earlier on exactly that piece of turf They reversed it
Starting point is 01:03:00 There might be something Bermuda Triangle about that piece of earth right there, but I want to bring you guys back to when Tiger got beat by Yie Yang. You remember up there? Yep. He had the big cock on his back. You remember that?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Oh, yeah. The Lecoq Sportif. You have to have the f at the end. Can you say it back to me? Neither one of us are capable of. Try it, Trent. Wait, say it, say one more time, I'll repeat it back. The lecoqsportif.
Starting point is 01:03:27 The lecoqsportif. Yeah, he had that big cock on his back, and when he beat Tiger was exactly. exactly on that same piece of real estate. Did you know that? You guys don't even know that that exists out there. That's the Bermuda Triangle on the tour that took down two of the legendary players. I'm bringing this to use Bastille Sports foreplay. First time ever as anyone's ever heard of it.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Just a little Bermuda Triangle up in Minnesota. I don't think we knew that. Yep. And we call it the Map of Tazzi. You know Tasmania? Same shape, right? Mapatazi? Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. I'm a little quick for you guys. You guys are Australians, you guys are sneaky. You guys are pretty slow. Anyway, so where were it? So I think when you get a girl naked back before 1980, when you looked at her, you saw the map of Tazzi, right? Okay, that's where we're at. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I mean. You guys don't even know what that is. You just, the things you're saying are great for the podcast right now. We're loving it. Yeah. So. I think that Rory McRoy got his dick squashed right there on that green, and then Patrick Reed stomped all over him.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And I think that dented his armor just a little bit. I think he took a ding, a big ding. That's our guy, Captain America. Yeah, big ding, exactly, Captain America. So what's elk up to today? I've seen a lot of stuff over on Twitter about this secret golf chart. chatter? Yeah, that's me. My company, SecretGolf, is, mate, I have, I'm a little different from you guys. I produce different kind of content, but my content is primarily the one that I'm
Starting point is 01:05:13 really excited about is I have 16 players under contract at Secret Golf. So I do all their media for them on the web. So I do private channels for them. Okay. So I, for example, Jason Duffner is one of my guys. I'm shooting Brittany Lang, the current U.S. Open Women's Champion, each one of them I do a private channel so you can go on there and see everything that you can't see. Literally what you're talking to me about tonight, you can't see anything about those people. My company was born by my thinking that when I played the tour, Monday through Sunday, the tour owns our content, owns us. We play for money, and that's cool. But, you know, we have a 30-year experience, and you guys all want to know what I know.
Starting point is 01:05:59 When I play with you guys, I'm going to show you shots, and you want to know that. So that's what I shoot. Basically, that's Secret Golf. We love Duff. Is he as cool in person as he comes off to us? Duff's a very cerebral guy. He looks like he's got no personality, but you can't shut him up. And he's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:06:18 He's probably one of the most gifted players. You know, that guy didn't have a scholarship to college. He walked on at Auburn. He's a PGA champion. and he made he knows so much about his swing and so much about his golf. Of course, you can learn all this at secretgolf.com under his private channel. But anyway, we're having fun with that. And Barstool is, Sam just walked in.
Starting point is 01:06:43 He's sitting over here eating Kung Fu Louis Chui Chop Sui Louie. He's got some. That's delicious. Tell him he said what's up. Yeah, I tell him the boy said what's up. Yeah. Hey, what did you? you guys think about city down here when you're here for the Houston?
Starting point is 01:07:01 So Trent and I didn't make the trip. That was all our coworkers that were down there. Oh, you guys don't do the majors? You don't do the majors. No, no. We're at the Masters. None of our coworkers were at the Masters. So listen, you're circling the wagons here.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Are you guys going to come down to the players and we're going to do something? So we got to connect on that. We got to get it approved, but I think that there's a lot of good reasons for us to come down to the players. I may open my own podcast system. here coming up. Lots of people want me to speak on that with PGA Tour and all those. My company, I'm interested in people coming to my site to see our content. So when I talk to viewers like you guys or whatever, if you're interested in golf,
Starting point is 01:07:46 then to learn about what it's like to be a tour player and how they do it, then that's my deal. So I do things around that. Well, yeah, I think that all of our listeners will be fascinating. I think we're fascinating. That's why we wanted to have you on. You're a very interesting guy. You're a major champ and all that. Very interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So we'll have to check that out. Right on. Well, let us know. TechSam, and I'll have his people talk to your people through my people. How about that? That's perfect. That's exactly how we like to operate. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:10:06 Steve Elkington. Wow. Wow, that's the only way you can describe it. What a guy. What a personality. He could have talked for 10 hours with us. He really brings it. There's no doubt about that.
Starting point is 01:10:17 We've been trying to get him on for a while. He is a quote machine. and yeah, I mean, we're going to have to, we're already running pretty late at this point on the podcast. You know, typically keep it around an hour. I think we're already like an hour of 15. So we're going to have to cut the back end a little bit short. We do have a little something something for everybody's favorite segment from the gallery.
Starting point is 01:10:43 This week, Trent, we got a guy, Tim, from Boston. He says, hey, guys, obviously a big part of the Allure. of the podcast. You guys aren't, you know, kind of type of traditional kind of pretentious golf media. You seem like cool, fun, normal guys that would be really fun to golf with. Thanks, man. Appreciate that, Tim from Boston. He said who in that light would be the two most fun people to golf with in golf media in your guys' opinion? So we're already playing, we're all just going to assume one of those guys, right? Yeah, I've already just put in another one because we're both going to just assume David Farad. David Faradie is number one
Starting point is 01:11:21 draft pick one one the whole time because you're going to have a blast of him. I know he's not a, he's not a drinker anymore, but he's still. His stories, his commentary, he's fucking hilarious. Just everything he said after every shot, I feel like would be laugh out loud, funny. Yeah, because he's, everything he says during golf tournaments are laugh out of funny. It'd be the same thing except he's with you making funny your golf swing. Stories would be a big part of it. He's, I mean, his show is great.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He's interviewed countless people. He's got countless stories, the whole deal. and he'd be able to tell you stories that you hadn't heard that he can't tell on air definitely you know what i mean yeah and he seems like one of those guys too he's just a really good guy who like cares about people you know what she's very like profound he just he's intelligent and profound and caring he's just he's everything you want and i would like him to be my friend i like how much we just like that he's caring it's so it's it's true though like he gives off that vibe very sincere you'd you would hit a bad shot and you're like 50th bad shot of the day
Starting point is 01:12:20 and he'd still be like, it's all right, man, everything's going to be fine. Yeah, and he'd be like, he'd feel sad if you're sad. I believe they call that empathy. He'd be empathetic towards your bad play. Yes. So David Faradie, no doubt pick. And then, so what did he say? Two people from the golf media.
Starting point is 01:12:35 So the idea is that it rounds out a four-sum. It's you mean two other bros. Gotcha. Who's your other one? So I'm going to go, I think this one might be a little bit unpopular, but I would go Nick Faldo. Okay. I think Fowdo is hilarious. I think he's different from kind of the typical golf commenter.
Starting point is 01:12:54 He's got a ton of majors. He's been there before. He's clothes and all that. He also has kind of that like almost eccentric image from when he was a player, how he like stuck to himself. People didn't really talk to him much. And a lot of the guys tell stories about how they're stunned that he's like an outspoken golf commentator now. Very personable, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah, because he's super personable and friendly and all that. But I also, a couple things, a couple weeks ago. go on one of the broadcasts like Sunday morning. He came on, I think it was during the matchplay. And he came on and he clearly was hungover slash still drunk as fuck. And he could like barely commentate what was going on. And I thought that was absolutely hysterical. He's making all kinds of random comments about Austin, which is where the matchplay was.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And Austin's a great time. So he clearly had gone out and had a good time. And then I also saw him on throwing ball or walking around the 18th Green at Augusta. on Sunday morning, and he's got this big presence, you know, he's won there. I think he's won three green jackets. I hope that's right. And he's out there walking around on the green, and he reached, and I don't know if I told the story the last one,
Starting point is 01:14:00 but he looks over at the gallery and he goes, does anybody got any balls? Like golf balls will throw around? And one of the guy in the crowd goes, I've got two. And then Faldo goes, you can't say that at Augusta National. So he just seemed like a good dude. Yeah, no, that's a good pick. I'm already regretting my other pick.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Nick Faldo is much better than my pick. Okay. And it's for reasons, but Noda Baguay is my other pick. Wow. What? I thought you, like, sneaky hated Nita Gays. I do sneaky hate Noda Bige, and hopefully he doesn't know that, because I would golf with him, and I would get every bit of Tiger information out of him that I could. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:14:36 That's why. That's your angle. Yes. I want to play 18 holes. I'm in a somewhat confined space with Noda Bagee for four hours, and I'm just going to ask him questions. I don't even, I guess I'm looking for stories. from the old college Stanford days. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:50 But I'm also looking for like what's actually going on right now. Because Nodibay knows all those stories. I'm convinced, again, hopefully he doesn't listen. I'm convinced that Nodigay has a job because he's friends with Tiger and Golf Channel wants those scoops. But that would be a good round to play golf. Trent wants those scoops. I want those scoops. You're angling.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I'm angling. And I feel like he doesn't give enough scoops on the golf channel. So that Nodibaget would be my other guy. My other guy is Peter Jacobson. Okay. I like him. My other thing seems like a total bro. Totally fair.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah. My, I didn't pick one other than Noda or David Ferry, but my last pick would be Johnny Miller. I would pick him and, like, kill him. Interesting. So you just, like, hit him with a golf club. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Run him over with a golf cart. Yeah, I did put on here in parentheses, not Johnny Miller, just because... That's how much he sucks. Well, no, because, you know, I really like Johnny Miller. Oh, that's true. But I wanted to go and clarify that while I do love him as a golf commentator, I don't think he'd be a very fun to golf with it. I think he'd be in suffering.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I think he being self-rolled off with. But I do, for the record, love Johnny Miller on NBC's coverage. That's from the gallery. Like we said, we had to cut it short this week because Elk went long. We obviously weren't going to cut off him and his stories. We could talk to him all day. We might just start doing Blitz podcast or we just talk to elk all day. I think that's a great idea.
Starting point is 01:16:07 We'll have to talk about that. Remember if you want to submit stuff from the gallery, it's for, play at bars toolsports. Last but not least, we've got to talk about the Valero, Texas Open this week. The biggest takeaway going in is that our guy Ryan Palmer's playing. Ryan Palmer's playing. Hopefully he plays well. Hopefully he plays well. I mean...
Starting point is 01:16:27 I'm looking at a power rankings list. Number one, Charlie Hoffman, that turns us off immediately because we do not particularly enjoy tournaments that are headlined by Charlie Hoffman. Correct. We just don't find him to be particularly interesting, especially when he's leading the Masters. Good thing he didn't end up winning. Not that we dislike Charlie Hoffman.
Starting point is 01:16:44 There's a very, very legitimate distinction. There's a huge difference. between not liking someone and not wanting someone to lead a signature tournament. Totally agree. He seems like a good dude by all accounts. He's just boring to watch golf. Zach Johnson's playing this weekend, so obviously everyone root for him. Good boy, Z.J., also my good friend, Billy Horshaw is in the field.
Starting point is 01:17:02 To my knowledge, still the only guy that has me blocked on Twitter. Oh, mine is Doddy Pepper. Oh, yeah, Doddy Pepper. That's always a real sneaky fact that Doddy Pepper has Trent blocked on Twitter. I've never gone at. Well, I made a job. I've told him probably the first. spot yes i made a joke about her not at her but about her that wasn't even that mean and it was she just
Starting point is 01:17:23 she must be searching her name and being like this bar still trink guys trouble i think cat father might have gone dark he might be getting personal uh taking things a little too personal haven't heard from them this week we've gone through this with riko bosco yeah i know you know some about he's just they're eccentric guys you don't know what they're going to do when they're going to appear when they're going to disappear so cat father we still love you pal it's just love you cap father he reemerges here and there you really don't know he's kind of unpredictable but haven't heard from them this week. So if you want picks, I'll put some into my golf preview on Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I'm going to have to come up with my own, which sucks. So I'll have to think about that. But what an interview this week. Reminder that you can win a free driver. If you go leave a review, take a screenshot, DM it to us at 4PlayPod on Instagram. Got to follow us. You got to follow us. You got a screenshot.
Starting point is 01:18:11 You got to leave a five-star review. Win yourself a free driver. King F7 from Cobra. Awesome. Looks like your guitar. You can really strum it out there. Feel free to check out Riggs's Instagram where he put up a CGI version of his drive. I photoshopped a good drive, clearly.
Starting point is 01:18:25 What an episode. Got to love Elk. Hopefully we get her back on. I think that's it this week, trip. I'll do it. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. I hit it hard, man.
Starting point is 01:18:34 So far, man. No laying up, no holding back. Yeah.

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