Fore Play - “Wait, did you just call yourself a dinky twink?”

Episode Date: July 26, 2018

Our good friend Ryan Whitney rejoins the show to discuss Carnoustie, his absurd golf trip to Scotland with NHL'ers, and to put Frankie's brain in a pretzel. Legitimately may have broken Frankie's brain. We take some FTGs and mix it up hard — it's a real fun time talking golf. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello, friends. We have a big show for the second show of the week. That's right. We do two shows a week. Our good friend Ryan Whitney is on. We use that term lightly.

The Muppet Man, he is back. He is, of course, a bigger golfer than he is a hockey guy. He knows that. That's self-admitted. He enjoys talking golf more than he. and Joyce talking about anything else in the world. He just did, like, a two-week trip with some of the best hockey players on the planet to Scotland and Spain. We talk about that.

He gets into it with Frankie. He actually kind of breaks Frankie's brain. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're going to want to listen in it. That's a tough moment for Frankie. It gets Frankie to a point where he can't even speak words, really. So stick with that.

We talk about Tiger. We talk about Carnusti. We chop it up. We talk about the Fallon Cup, which is just an awesome member guest. Everybody loves member guests. So there's a lot of chatter with Whitney. We're getting into sort of the end here. We've got a couple big tournaments left.

We've got the PGA Championship, which is in my hometown. St. Louis. Belle Reeve. Shout to the St. Lunatics. Yeah. St. Lunatics are great, man. I agree with that. I've never agreed with something you said more.

I love the St. Lunatics. Is that true? Yeah. If I were from St. Louis, I would take so much pride in being from the same place as the St. Lunatics that I might get like a tattoo. I'd have a lot of shirts. That album where the first track was the voicemail. Remember that with Nelly?

Isn't this the song that you listened to? I got arrested listening to the St. Lunatics. Yeah, Midwest Swing, for those of you out there. That came on. I tweeted about it, and the next thing that happened to me was I ended up in a jail cell. I don't really know how I got there. All right, so I was a stoolie when that came out. Sure.

And I went nuts. Holy shit, fucking Trent, man. What a badass. And now after meeting you and being friends with you now for two years, I cannot believe that that happened to you. I mean, you must have just been a character. You must have just been a different person. Yes.

Yes, I think I was. I used to have a lot more fun, I think, in my mid-20s. Now that I've aged and I've, you know, I've just, I don't party as much. I used to party a lot back then. And sometimes that spills over and you end up in jail. It's a good lesson. It's a great lesson. It's a great lesson.

It's a really hard to imagine that our current trend. This guy was behind a fucking jail cell. Like, you were behind bar. I was in a jail cell. I was in a orange jumpsuit. Rumpelmints. Rumpelmins. Because of Rumpelmins and Nell and the St.

Lunatics. Rumpelmins fucked me up in Florida once, but that's a whole other story. Rumpelman's is my, my Uncle Jack's favorite drink. And I ran into him at a bar that night. And we just, you know, drank every last drop of it that that bar had. And Uncle Jack, who likes Rumpelmints is a, is a night. Oh, it's a night.

Yeah. It's a night. So, you know, these things, they get out of control, and, you know, these things happen. So we've talked about the St. Lunatics. We've talked about golf tournaments. If you're going to go to some of these things, you're going to view some of these things. You know what you need? You need tickets.

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Let's do this. I would look at Bastille all the time and look at this stuff that they, The hit post is some of it's like absolutely stupid, but some of it's actually quite amusing and funny. Stuff like that is what we need to get people to attract people to the game of golf. Nice to be here, boys. Congratulations on all that you're doing is as mediocre as it is. These newer, younger, hipper platforms like Barstool Sport. Tigers had three back surgeries. He's had one fusion. We welcome in from Barstool Sports. Riggs and Trent. Guys, welcome to the show.

Well, I've won and love. For Play, presented by Barstool Sports. Big show. A lot of fun. A lot of fun this show coming. The boys. Trent just had a big clap. So a lot of people might not know this, but before we record every time, Trent has to clap.

He doesn't actually have to. Like, it's already recording. But we just feel better if he claps. Yeah, it's become a thing now where if we don't clap, I don't feel comfortable. Yeah, and the back story to that is when you're editing a podcast, you see just a huge jump on the line of the audio. and you know that that's where to start. So is anything prior? Yeah.

I had no idea. So it's great for Heggs because, right, there's jumps. And that's the clap stands out way above everything else. Unless the order just like start fucking screaming like a madman into. Unless we're just clapping. Okay, I see now. All right. So you've been clapping this whole time.

You have no idea why? I did not know why. Okay. Let me ask you guys this. Is that why with the start scenes thing with the board? Well, that's so that you can match up the video with the video with the, audio because you get to perfectly sync the audio and the video when it claps. It's an easy way.

Instead of looking at someone's mouth and seeing, it's like all the audio that happens after that action. It should be synced right at that moment. That's how you sync the audio and... That makes sense. Yeah, you look for the... See, I always just thought it was one of those things. It's just like a token move that they've been doing since like the 30s when they just didn't

have technology. So that's just what they did. No, and there's like technology too that I think, I'm sure like the movie companies and shit when like the audio will just automatically sync up to that high peak so like they just fucking put it all in and then it'll look for that peak and that's where it starts so they still do the the clap thing oh yeah what do you call that thing that we all know how much hegs you know the director's clap i don't know what it's called but but yeah it's a cool clipboard i just put movie clapper thing into google anything and it says clapboard clapboard clapboard clapboard clapboard

clapboard sounds better. I bet you the clapboard person has a horrifying experience of like, is my finger going to get caught, stuff like that, because that thing fucking comes down hard. It is strange, and it's just one of those things that everybody knows what it is. A clapper board is a device using filmmaking and video production

to assist in synchronizing of picture and sound to designate and make mark the various scenes as they are filmed. It's another thing. It tells them scene one, episode two, so it's a multi- So it's huge for the edit. Huge.

Just huge. We should actually incorporate a clapboard. I've had, I've worked with people who do the clapboard. Occasionally Trent and I, we've gone and done, you know, interviews or man on the street videos with different people. And occasionally we'll bring, we'll outsource someone, like who's an audio guy or something. And he'll be doing the clapboard. We're like, buddy, relax.

You have to be a real cocky guy to bring out the clapboard, especially at Barcelona. For like our takes. Imagine like loud show on walking up and just like with a clapboard. I think David Fire. Correct. For like the rigs and Trent takes. They're bringing the clapboard. We had a guy once we outsourced and he had a clapboard on his phone.

I'm like, well, now we're going a little too much. On his phone? So he's like, everyone, film my phone, and he had a little clapboard app on there, and it would sink. I was like, all right, now. Now we've reached the limit. That is brutal. Yeah. So we've got Ryan Whitney on this week's show.

He'll be on in a few minutes. It's a great chat. We kind of hit a bunch of different stuff. We talk about Scottish golf, Lynx, golf, Tiger, Karnusti, the Open. He gets into his golf trip. We kind of chime in. It's great hearing about golf trips. Golf trips are awesome.

Yeah, and he had a golf trip on steroids. On steroids. Ryan Whitney is a, you know, he's a pretty popular guy. He played in the NHL for a bunch of years, got scratched a ton. But. Getting your shots in while he's not here. That's smart. Yeah.

I almost had the ball to say, is golf your favorite sport? Because it's the only sport you can't get scratched in. But you had that queued up and didn't drop it? I like said it towards the, I had it in my head in the end. But it was when, so it was when I, you guys will hear, my brain stopped working. And I think I just have to take the L. So I'll throw it out of him next time, though. It's even worse that you brought it up now, you know?

Well, yeah, my brain's not working. It wasn't working. Or it's just not working in jail? No, all day, no. Is that from your Martha's Vineyard trip? I don't know what it is. I'm just, like, out of it. I don't know.

I don't know what it is. My brain's just not like, I mean, I'm doing all my work, right? Like, I'm not messing up anything except for actually speaking. Like, right now, I'm like, I don't see an end to this sentence right now. I can't, I don't see. It doesn't feel like there's, I don't have an end to the sentences. There is no direction. The words that are coming out of your mouth.

No. So, um, so we have Whitney on. He kind of, as you can see, imagine what Frankie's is trying to speak. He's trying to speak words right now. And imagine a fully confident Ryan Whitney just countering all that and just piling on, Frankie. That's what we get. A bit of a bloodbath. It's great.

It's a bloodbath. It's really one side. It's hopefully Frankie can kind of bounce back a little bit. But it's a great. chat with talks and golf we have a lot of fun before we get into that um we're going to talk a little canadian open we're debating this earlier duston johnson johnson played in i guess it was like the tuesday was the proam pro am it was today was that today i thought it felt like that video was from yesterday but regardless it was the pro am i believe for the canadian open he played in it in wayne gretsky's

edmonton oilers jersey wayne gretsky is of course the father of paulina gretzky who is his fiance I was like, oh, that's great. That's a really nice move. That's his future father-in-law. It sounds lovely. Cool. However, Trent Daddy, a couple other people in the office were like, that's just fucking weird.

The more I think about it, the less weird it gets. But it just, when I first saw it, it just hit my brain. I was like, that's weird. That's a strange thing to do. Because everybody knows that you are having sex and have had sex. They've got kids with Wayne Gretzky's daughter. And then you're just going to wear his jersey. I think what the conclusion that I came to is that like his father-in-law.

No, I know. I think the conclusion I came to was that the further, the longer that they've been dating, the less weird it gets, but it's still a part of me, um, finds it a bit strange that he's wearing Wayne Gretzky's jersey. Well, I mean, is it because it's just a jersey with the name on it? What if my girlfriend's dad gives me like a sweatshirt with his company's name on it and shit? Like, I think that's different. Like, all right, Borelli's, like my girlfriend has a bunch of Borelli's shirts and it's got

my dad's name on it. you, Trent? No, that's not weird to me. All right. Where do you draw the line? I know. It's jerseys. Everybody knows jersey. You put it on a jersey. But it's a man wearing a... It's not like the girl's wearing like the boyfriend's jersey and like, you know, she's wearing it to like bed or something like that. It's like, it's a guy wearing a fucking oil there's jersey. Sports guy. Sports dude. You know, in Europe, they think wearing jerseys with like names and stuff on the back is the weirdest thing in the world.

Really? Yeah, they think the fact that we do that is like bizarre. But don't they wear soccer jerseys like crazy? But I think that they don't. don't do names. Oh. Because when we were over there for the London video that we shot, we were kind of talking to Barbao, everybody had like a no name on the back jersey. Got it. They're like, yeah, we think the American you guys do with that is.

Well, we idolized people that, I mean, I have like a Josh Bailey jersey who's like a second line islander. It's like, I shouldn't be walking around. No, that's weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely bizarre. I always looked for the guy.

I always wanted to be the one person in the stadium that had a jersey that no one else had. So, like, everyone had Tavares jerseys. Yeah. I paid that. That's cool. I would look for like contract negotiations and be like who's going to sign like a five-year deal that's like not that big of a player like Brock Nelson or Josh Bailey and I'd buy their jersey immediately. Yeah. See, when I was back when I was a Rams fan before the Stan Cranky stuck dick and decided to be an asshole and shit.

Your team just left. Well, that's another story. That's fucking insane. It sucks and your team just leaves. I mean, it sucks. But your team went to Brooklyn. Yeah, but I mean, I can still go to as many games as I want and they're coming back anyway so you can go shut the fuck up. but what do you got?

That would have been a way better chirp like six months ago. I know. I don't know how much about hockey. Like in two months, I'm just going to go watch them down the block from my house and, like, have the best time. I can feel he'd come out of half of Frankie. Well, we don't talk about,

I'm bringing up the islands right now, but it's a touchy subject. So even back when I was a Rams fan, I used to, um, you would see like one little short, like minute and a half promo on like a special teams guy or something with a cool name and be like,

that's my guy. Yeah. You know, it's like way cool to have that than a Kurt Warner jersey back in the day. Yeah. Not to bring this background in St. Lunatics, but Murphy Lee... Going back to the St. Lunatic? Murphy Lee used to wear...

I believe he wore a backwards Marshall Falk jersey, and I got a Marshall Falk jersey because of that. In, like, one of the videos he wore... What do you mean backwards? He would wear it backwards. Oh, I see Falk on the front. Did you wear it like that? Okay. Occasionally, yeah.

You're just walking around Des Moines, Iowa, or... Trent's just getting... Trent's getting walked into the fucking jail cell with a Marshall Falk jersey backwards. Maybe. Do you have like a sideways like hat on trying to like no no but and I didn't do this but I had thought about Nellie would do the bandaid on the face so I'd wanted to make it and didn't you do a bandana for a while yeah yeah yeah they used but the backwards wearing jerseys backwards was definitely a thing that's a move that's a move that's a serious move that's something coli would do people forget yeah I was very into hip hop and I still am maybe not I'm not going to wear backwards jerseys anymore but I did it one time yeah Marshall Falk shout at him what are your thoughts on hip hop on the golf course Because the reason I bring this up is because, you know, so I bought this new, I bought a new speaker for golf. It's called the JBL Clip 3. Things awesome.

It literally, it's built into the top of it is just a clip. And you can just clip it on to shit wherever you want. And it has, it has like this, this, what is it, wafering? Is that what you call it, when stuff moves and it fucks up the sound? Wait, wafer, something like that. Woffer? Woffering. I'm thinking of like a subwiffer, I don't know.

But you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, whatever, moving around in circles and stuff. It doesn't sound right. It's got, like, anti-that technology. Great. Anti-that technology is huge. Huge.

Many anti-that technology, I'm all in. Totally. No, it's great. Yeah. So it clips onto my golf bag, and then when you're carrying it and stuff, the sound just sounds great the whole time. But anyways, we were talking about how, for whatever reason, country music on the golf course just sounds awesome.

I don't know what, I don't know what that reason is. Like, even people that are. not that in a country, you put a country playlist on in the golf course, people are like, I dig this. This is great. I think the reason behind that is that country music is very good drinking music and that it gets paired well when you're golfing. And I think if you're playing country music while golfing, it just adds to like, all right, we're going to drink a bunch and have a good day.

Yeah. And like the type of, it's conducive to the type of drinking that goes on in golf too, which is similar to like country concert or like football game tailgating. Like in your backyard playing like cornhole type of, like very low, low. energy, like, drawn out drinking. Right. Right. I'm not listening to fucking, you know,

Calvin Harris while I fucking play golf. I thought you were going to say Evichi, RIPI.P. You know, he popped into my head. He did. That was the first person to pop my head. And I did. Really? Yeah.

Wow. That was the first fucking name that popped in my head. But you're right. It's definitely not. Well, we can still listen to Avichi. Totally. Avichie's great. I listen to Michael Jackson.

I guess it would just be weird, though, to be sitting there in the middle of fairway I could listen to Avichi. Very strange. And going back to your original question, I think, I think hip hop is fine. I think hip hop is also

conducive to you're having a good time. Like you said, Avichu would be weird because you feel like you're in the club, but hip hop I think is okay while you're out

in the golf course. Yeah, yes, I think so too. Especially in the back nine, front and I don't know if hip hop plays as much. That's interesting. Think so?

I don't know. I just feel like it. So I have a thing that I play music out of. It's called the sound caddy. and it is a, it looks like a driverhead. Have you ever seen this? It looks like I've heard of it, but I don't know.

It looks like a driver head and it has a fucking shaft and it has a grip and has everything. But it's the driver is the speaker. So you put it in your, and you, it's not for like, you're not going to bring this to a country club because obviously everyone's like, why do you have two drivers in your fucking thing? But when I go to, when I go to, like, when I go to public. Why is their music coming out of you? Yeah. It's why are there two drivers?

Yeah. And why is there music coming out of the head of that driver? But it is funny. It's like a talking point, like, because I've, done it before, obviously. I don't know how I've never said this, but it's, yeah, it's funny, because you walk up to the first T-box and you have a driver in your hand, and you're, like, waving it around.

There's music coming to have it, and, like, no one really notices what's going on, and they look closely. It's just one big speakerhead. And you're like, ah, yeah, I'm not going to use it. It's a music. Is it a full-length driver? Full-length driver. With this just a speaker, though. It's a speaker, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, so you put it, it fits perfectly into your

into your bag, and it looks like a fucking regular club, but, you know. I can't believe I've ever seen that more. And it bluthersers right. to your phone and plays music very loudly right in the back of your clubs and you know when you're in the cart it feels good. Frankie is his father's son for sure. Totally. Yeah, I always, I grew up getting angry and like, you know, being annoyed at some of the stuff he would do and I find myself now, you know. Don't we all do that? Yes. Right. Aren't we all kind of our dads? Here's a little one. I've never said this to anyone on any of these podcaster shows, but he did, he did this thing to me

for years where I'd go to baseball practice. He's going to listen to this and laugh because it fucking drove me crazy. We'd go to a, I'd get baseball instructions every Thursday night at this place in Freeport, Long Island, right? And to get to this place, you had to fucking put in a little code to open up this gate to get to this baseball facility. It was an indoor facility, and you did pitching and batting practice in these two just like, whatever, cages.

And it was awesome. I used to look forward to it so much because these guys were awesome, whatever. So, every Thursday, he would go to this little keypad and type in the code that he needed to do, and every single time. Now, I'm like five to like 10 years old, right? Every single time he would do it, he would say Bond, James Bond, as he hit enter, and the doors would open. And I was like, that's funny, all right, let's go.

And he would do it every time and act as though he needed to say Bond, James Bond. Or it wouldn't open. And it drove me nuts. I would be sitting in the passenger seat saying, if you say Bond, James Bond one more time, I am never coming back to this practice. I will quit baseball. I will never speak to you again. I'm quitting his family.

And he would go under his breath. Banchise. I'd be like, you don't say that. Don't say it one more time. Do not say it one more time. And the best one ever was one time it wouldn't open, right? And the guys were like, all right, someone's going to have to hop over this side of the fence and go on the other side and type in the code. And I was like, oh, shit.

And now I'm a little bit older now. Now I'm like 12 and I'm like, I'm going to get him because I know that I know. because you feel like you're being you're being you're being betrayed by your father at least that's how I thought I'm like he's lying to me but he won't let me he won't let me know the lie right yeah he's trying to protect his gig

right oh my gosh he really really protected this so one time I had to go over the fence and I had to type it in from the other side because it was broken on his side so I'm like I'm gonna get on like what's the code and he gave me the code and I'm like I'm hitting it and he timed it up perfectly he screamed from his side

bond James Bond and the fucking thing opened it I lost it. I didn't go to the practice. I, like, I called my mom. I'm like, I got to go. But now looking back, it's like, I do little things like that where I'll piss people off and I'll say things until it makes them, like, want to cry. And, man, I mean, he really did mess me up.

You know what that reminds me? That reminds me of the Michael. Oh, yeah. Say Michael one more time. You say it one more time. How many times are you going to say Michael? Michael. Michael.

Say Michael one more time. Hang it up. Michael. Yeah. So that's a good story. Oh, Jesus Christ. What the hell are we talking about? I don't know.

We're talking about speakers. Oh, yeah, yeah. Something like that. And then how we all become our fathers, and you realize every year that goes by, you're more and more like your dad. It's a golf podcast, but this thing fucking is a rotating. We don't know where this thing's going to go. You never know what the hell we're going to be talking about. We got the Canadian open.

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How's life? Life's great. Life is very good. It's middle of golf season, so there's not much to complain about. We're glad that you were able to fit us into your busy day. Yeah, I mean, there was a sense of, like, are we doing this for today? Like, is this Ryan Whitney that we're just, like, running around for and making our schedule be cleared like what the fuck's going on

well uh i'll tell you right now frankie you could have fucking recorded whenever you want but if you wanted me on this is going to fucking do it so that's up to you that's a fair point um so who's up who who's up frankie griggs is trent there yeah what's up what's up whitney well what's going on what's going on we got the whole squad

but you sound like you just fucking woke up it's noon uh no i've actually been up since like 545 uh walking around my son you guys sleep and no I've been up before any you fuckers were up I mean I'm just saying maybe you sound maybe you get a little more energy about to talk some golf you should be fucking jacked up I'll be ready don't you fucking worry riggedy you're ready um all right we got a lot that we're not really doing like an intro we're just this is just this is all part of the show we're just this is the show okay perfect there you go

um so first of all we're you playing today by the way wally today i'm i'm going to go over and play walliston yes today it'll be a wall today you got a big tournament there this weekend. So I'm just going to try to, you know, figure out where the green's throughout, you know, all that good stuff. Where's, uh, well, uh, Fallon's coming up in a couple weeks. What's this weekend? Um, this weekend's the Bowen Cup, which is a member, member two-day gross four balls. And look at that net bullshit. You play the course all the way back. It's probably the one trophy you want to win there as a member. I'm not playing in the Fallon Cup. Uh, have you

ever talked about the Fallon Cup on this? I think last year we talked about it a little bit afterwards because, yeah, we did. Yeah, I think we did. Yeah, I think we did. Yeah, but I can't play the Fallon this year anyway. It's the weekend of the PGA. PGA's in my hometown, St. Louis. I should probably go there, even though I would much rather go play in the Fallon Cup. Well, listen, my brother's getting married, and I found out the date, and when was the date? On the Fallen Cup.

I was like, are you fucking kidding me? It's devastating. What are you going to do, right? Family is family. I like that. Family's family. You're big family guy. You've got the kid now, you know?

You're going to what? It's just a big family guy. I like it. So anybody that doesn't remember, the Fallen Cup is. probably the biggest member guest in Massachusetts. It's just like the Calcutta has swollen to dozens of thousands of dollars are in the first couple of flights. So it's a bunch of hockey guys too.

It's Paul Mary and Moore and all these clowns have all joined up there who, you know, Whitney kind of runs in that circle too. So you throw all this into the mix and you get a lot of like single digit handicappers. You get, what do they have like six flights now, Whitney? Yeah, so it's 96 players. and then, like, what I love about it is that it's a gross qualifying round. So you go out Wednesday, Thursday, qualified best ball with your partner, and then they flight you based on that, and then the handicaps come in.

But if there's 125 teams that sign up for this member guest, 125 members, well, they don't take 96 teams. So if you don't play well, if you shoot 83, 84 as your best ball, which, I mean, can be done by anyone, right? Hard course. Then you're done. You're not even playing in a tournament. So have a nice member guest weekend where you can't even play.

play, go get some reciprocal. It is fucking intense. The Fallon Cup is the most intense golf term I've ever played in. For people that aren't professional golfers are on the real amateur circuit, you go from playing all these recreational rounds with your buddies or you're chirping the shit out of each other about like Nassau's and whatever the hell you're playing for, 50 bucks or 20 bucks. And then all of a sudden you're playing in the Fallon Cup where like the Calcutta on Thursday night gets crazy, goes into like I said, like dozens of thousands of dollars on different teams. All of a sudden, you're shelling out all this money and it's like me, I'm a fucking

I don't have that much money. And all of a sudden, like, yeah, if you win your flight, you win like $25,000? I'm like, what are you talking about, $25,000? What does that even meet? So it gets intense. Wally, the greens at Wallston, they get them lightning. Last year, was it the qualifying round that was like the hardest round of golf that I've ever played, Whitney? The hardest.

I mean, you hit the ball with a 56-degree wedge 10 feet beneath the tin. It was hitting the green and bouncing long. Like, not even putting anymore. So that was incredible. I mean, dude, like, you have to shoot, you have to shoot even par, sometimes doesn't even get you into the championship flight. So right there, I mean, you can't even win the, you know, technically win the tournament. Now, people are going in and looking to win their flight. But if you want to get your name on the wall, you want your name on the fucking wood, which is what I want, what everyone wants in the grill room,

well, you've got to shoot under par in the qualifying round. So it's just, I mean, the one year, not to talk about it too much, but this tournament, you know, rigs, it's just hard not to just go. We can talk about it all day. It's the best fucking turn in the world. It's awesome. One year, my partner and I, we shot one over. We didn't get in a champ fight. I was so rattled.

But still, they auctioned up the teams in the first flight. And we ended up, like, the flight pool was, like, $33,000. We took it down in a playoff. The last nine holes and in the two holes in the playoffs, there was, like, 45 people watching. I'm like, I played in the Olympics, and this doesn't even, and this thing crushes the Olympics for your nerd. And we won on the second play. fall, it's third lap ball. We split like to 18 grand.

I'm like, this is living, dude. What a tournament. And we didn't even win the championship flight. It's, yeah, so last year, the course played so fucking hard last year. Like what was saying, usually, like, one under something like that, you need to get into the champ flight because it's all, it's all gross. There's no bullshit. I played with Adam Glenn Denning last year. He's a hockey guy.

He's like a 1.2 index. I was like a 4 at the time last year. We played our dicks off and shot one over, and we're, like, ready to kill ourselves. And we got in no problem because the course played so hard last year. The other best part about this tournament that people don't talk about enough is AC Ducey where Witt runs just a massive A.C. Deucey game. And the pot swells to the point again where, I mean, last year it got to a point where I was facing like a king deuce, okay?

King Duce, A.C. Deuce. Everybody knows you hit the post. It doubles. You pick the cards in between. You drew up a card in between. You win the pot. You can wager as much as you want up to the pot. So I'm sitting there the pot's like two and a half grand at this point. And I got a king deuce. and I have no fucking money. I'm playing. I'm sitting there. There's all these fucking hockey guys. Wits got millions of fucking dollars.

Everyone's like, oh yeah, we'll just throw. We'll bet this, that. I'm like, dude, if I hit the post here,

I owe five grand. Like, what are you talking about? That's not even a real number. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm like, boys, what do I got to go here? And all of a sudden, like,

Paul Mary, all the guys come up. They're like, Rigsie, we got you here. If this goes south, we got you got to wager. So I ended up wager in like, you know,

1500 or something crazy like that. It hits, I went crazy. I was like the happiest guy in the world. Dude. It gets wild. I take a lot of pride in the dealing, and I'm like, all right, I got to liven this up. I got to get bets out of people. You know, you get a five queen. A lot of times people don't want to bet that.

Well, I'll kind of pressure them into it. And then when people hit post, I actually said that this year I'm going to bring in like a pot and a pan of beat because I always scream out, pooh. The guy's devastated. I'm just like, that's amazing. The pot just doubled. So, I mean, at that point, yeah, the, what one year was like 10 grand,

and I was thinking, like, I don't even really want to get, like, a three king where you kind of have to pot it, but you're just panicking all what you owe if you're supposed. So it's a great action tournament. I mean, listen, we have the Open Championship that happened, but this is our Open Championship to balance up. So let's talk about the open, Karnusti. You know, we did a lot of talking about it a couple days ago on the show, but we got to hear it with things, obviously. First off, Tiger. I mean, fucking, you know, he's there, he's playing his game, conservative game playing.

A lot of people picked him going in. Brandel picked him. Hank Haney picked him. Next thing you know, he's tied for the lead on Saturday. He takes the solo fucking lead on Sunday. Then he goes double bogey to drop out of the fucking lead, ultimately cost him the whole tournament. Where are we at with Tiger winning? Well, I've said on here before that I don't, okay, so I have a bet.

I'm going to lose a bunch of money to separate people if he wins it on their major. in his deepest darkest moments. I was like, this guy's never winning a major again. So I have money on on that. Now I'm starting to really panic. But I've said it before, now that I think he actually might get a major, but he has to win another tour event first. I just don't think his first win is going to be a major.

It's like the front nine couldn't have gone any better. It was a clinic. People were falling back. I know you guys talked about this, but he was looking like, it was so dialed in every shot. He didn't miss a shot. but what do you know, dude, it's so different now. The pressure's changed.

The back nine starts, and he just, everything that he used to not do, he now does. It's like he feels this pressure that he, you know, made it look like he never felt for 20 years. So I don't know. I mean, I still do think he, now I actually do think, excuse me, that he will get a major because how good he's looking at how much he keeps improving. But now they're reaching, they're reaching to say things. Before it was, you know, he couldn't get it done on this, couldn't do that. Well, now that he's improving the chipping, the putting is getting better.

Like, now they're reaching for, oh, well, you know, I don't just, I think he can be panicked completely. Now, I don't think he really does, but for right now, it's too hard for him. It really is. And at the back nine, you can just tell. He missed that one putt, and it's like he used to never miss those puts, and now he always does. So will that change? I don't know. But it was, how exciting was that?

It was like, I couldn't believe the amount of people involved. People you never even see talking about it on Twitter are just into Tiger. Like this is what it feels like again. It was a drug. It was crazy because it was actually happening. That was honestly, like we've been fucking promoting and talking about the fact that when Tiger does X, Y, or Z, it's so much cooler than anything else. We've been, like, living in the fucking past. I've been literally doing, doing history podcasts trying to, like, bring Tiger back to life because of how exciting it is, how awesome it is.

And then it fucking was happening. He was, he was, and not only was it happening, but it was happening exactly how it traditionally happened with Tiger at majors. on the front nine. He wasn't even doing anything miraculous. He wasn't hitting giant flop shots and shit. The course is playing tough as hell. He was hitting fairways. He was hitting it in the middle of greens.

He made a couple of puts. He reached a par five and two by fucking stepping on a couple shots. And he was just a couple under, nothing crazy. Everybody else is kind of falling off. He's got a one-stroke lead. You're thinking, dude, he's going to put the fucking foot down, stop on the throats. He's going to get maybe the, he's going to birdie 14. He's going to close it out with like a three under.

Well, everybody else flounder is going to be great. And then he did what everybody else fucking down. I mean, we had speed. Speed's talking to Greller and is like, dude, I looked at the board. I don't know what's happening. My brain's falling apart. It was going so great that all of a sudden he just did what Tiger never fucking does. So I just, I don't know.

I think he's there. I think you're right. I think he got over the chipping yips, right? Everyone's like, oh, he's got the chipping hits. I'll never be able to come back. He's gotten over the injuries. People are like, dude, people that have back injuries don't just like come back and dominate.

That never happens. He's back over that. His swing looks great. He's able to keep the ball and play. I think the last thing that everybody wants to talk about is that he can't close on the back nine. And I think you're right. I mean, it might be at Firestone next week where he's won fucking eight times.

But I do think, I think you're right. I think he's got to win somewhere else probably outside of a process. We are going through a process right now. Everyone talks about the 76ers, Philadelphia and basketball, trust the process. Like, this is the actual process. Like, he's done this before. He has changed his swing. He has won after he's gone from, you know, being able to recover his chipping yips

to being able to put like a fucking dominant putter. And at the end, he just closes. He has not gotten to the closing part. No, he hasn't. But he's doing it. He's right there. He's on, like, step five of five. He just got to finish.

So the guy that, like, I go, that helps me with my swing, Sean Hester, check them out, unreal teacher. A little plug there, nice. Yeah, exactly. He deserves it. He was, he was telling me, he's like, you don't know. He's like, you have no idea. I know.

I can see it. He is completely all the way back, basically. He said that, he said before there was so many. swing just didn't look right, and he has improved so much in five months, four months, even three months, I can't even believe it. So for an instructor to say, I mean, they can just now tell. I mean, I have a semi-erection right now. Yeah, I'm fucking, I just jizz my pants.

I have to change my head. Anytime you hear anyone talk about, especially if they have any sort of experience talking about golf, like you hear like Brandl, like, when Brandl just like all of a sudden starts switching and being like, oh, yeah, I think Tiger's going to win. That makes me like when I'm- Especially do because for a normal person, Tiger's swing just looks the fucking same. Right. His swing just, he always just looks like Tiger would swing in the golf ball.

So when someone that actually knows that there's a difference is like, oh yeah, that's good, I'm like, yep, that guy knows what he's the best instructor in the world says Tiger looks good. Isn't that incredible, though, that he can change his swing based off of what he wants to do with his body? Like during the open, they were saying, oh yeah, look at that new follow-through. It's relieving pain off of his back. So this guy is so mechanical and such a robot that he is able to hit a golf ball perfectly with 120-mile-an-hour slings speed and release and follow through in a certain way so that his transfused back can have relief. Like he's thinking about all these things and hitting the golf ball right next to the pit. I love you said transfused back.

Like he's pouring transfusion into the back to like power him to victory. And then he has a swing like out of the bunker on 10 and it's like, oh, he can still just rip it whenever he wants to. Recoil. Oh, my God. He's so sexy. All right. We've done a ton of Tiger talk. He looks great.

Everybody's pumped. He'll win another major. You're going to lose your bet. Whitney. That's tough. I want to get a little while we got you. I want to talk a little, Scotland. I know you were fucking just over there.

I was following your whole trip on Instagram. You're with a bunch of the boys. I feel like you guys did a little bit of, I don't know, more of like a hidden gem, not necessarily like the big ticket items type trip. Yeah, well, they had, um, it's kind of a bunch of Detroit Red Wings guys. And, you know, it goes back to, you know, years before they went on a trip and they did, you know, the old course, they did Carnus. They did Kings, Barnes, Press, with all that.

So we were going to the other courses in Scotland. But we had, I mean, this was a golf trip on steroids. I mean, I can kind of go into it briefly if you want me to. I talked about it on spit and chik-lis, but I'm sure there's different listeners. No, I heard a little bit of it on chicklets. That's kind of why I want. And I think our audience would love, especially because one of our biggest episodes we did was when I did the trip. You were just talking about, which is kind of the standard one.

It's like the old course. I played Kings Barnes, did Crail, did Carnusti. We haven't really talked about Scottish golf. And, you know, that much since then. And I feel like a lot of people got the fever after watching Carnusty and how fucking baked out the place. Oh, I mean, so we got over there, this trip, it takes a nice little turn at the end, that it just made it a very, very special trip as it wasn't, as it wasn't already before. So we flew in, everyone went to Royal Dorn Oak, which I had heard so many great things about.

I wasn't blown away. I've seen people say how much they loved it. It was great. Don't get me wrong. But they forced us to play it up at like 6,200 yards. And sometimes that's kind of, it almost brings into trouble. off the tea that you wouldn't find, so whatever. I think that that kind of made my memory of it a little,

a little, you know, not as favorable as the other ones. But still, it was all, you know, you're in Scotland, you got the caddies, you're over there, you've got the whiskey going. And right away I could tell it was like, I can't believe how burnt out. I mean, the fairways are full-blown brown. I was like, is this, like, if you went over

and didn't know anything about Nick's coffee bag, what is this piece of shit, Muni? Like, this looks horrible. But, you know, if you've kind of learned about links or watched it, you realize that's what makes it so special. You get all these different shots. Royal Dorn Oak was unbelievable. The next morning, we woke up

and we played, what was it the next morning? Trump International, which was phenomenal. In the dunes, right? Oh, yeah. It was incredible. Absolutely. And it kind of felt like Ireland a little bit where it wasn't as lynxy as Dornoldk.

I mean, I think they probably spent a little bit more money there because of Trump, but still it was an incredible round. Great Scottish weather. Most of the time we got like 80 degrees, 75 degree, no wind days, which actually makes those courses pretty, I mean, it's not easy, but certainly not as difficult as when there's a 15 mile an hour steady way. Yeah, when I was over there, I had legit, like it was like 63 degrees

and like 5 mile an hour win the whole time, and I played the old course and was like, this place is fucking easy. I don't understand what the problem is. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. You can go out there, and if you're hitting, if you're hitting driver, go, you don't even need it. We don't even need driver out there because it's going so far.

You're like, wow, this is pretty easy. But, you know, every cat is like you'll never see it like this. Yeah. Either way. We still had a blast. Then we went and we played, what was the course like that, Royal Aberdeen. Now, Royal Aberdeen was awesome. I absolutely loved it.

The only thing we did there, it was the one round, I think we did nine rounds in the trip. But the one round we did not really play your own ball. It was kind of like you had a partner and you picked the best drive. You both shot it from there. So people were kind of rattled with him play our own ball because of how sweet Aberdeen was. I didn't know anything about that going in, but a complete jammy.

They had the Scottish Am there this year. Just awesome track. That was the day we had caddies who had all played in like three or four Scottish Am. A couple played in the Scottish Open. So it's cool. You know, you have those stick caddies over there that really kind of tell you about different shots you can hit. I got stuck with a caddy one-rounder.

Trump, Dunes, the dude literally had no clue. I don't even think the guy had ever played golf. I was like, this guy's driving me insane right now. And then I find out he's an amateur boxer. He had 180 knockouts out of 200 fights. I was like, ah, fuck, I'm not saying a word to this dude. I'm not sure for this fucking guy. Yeah, exactly.

So that was the second day. Third day, we did Castle Stewart. We did 36 there. We went out in the morning. Awesome. Pure course. We're still won the Scottish Open, right before we won the Open Championship

at Mearfield that year. Place was built like nine years ago. It feels like it's been there for 80, 90 years, like a lot of them. So that was incredible. We have lunch. We go backward in the afternoon. That round, it's par 72.

I shot 69 in the afternoon. Nice. I was a loving life. I was on a boss just loving it. Just a cigar is whiskey. I'm like, I'm an absolute stick. But, you know, that place was playing pretty easy, too. Not a good win there.

That was a fun, fun day right there. Yeah, I've heard Castle Stewart is, it's like a mix between like King. It's almost like Kings Barnes, as a little bit more lynxy because Kings Barnes comes off as pretty American for whatever reason, whereas I've heard Castle Stewart is like that sick, except also feels a little more lynxy. Yeah, I thought it really felt, you know, lynxy to me. There's some great holes in the back. They get a couple drive. They travel par four, and they're very getable par five. It was just a perfect, perfect course.

And like I said before, I mean, we were hitting, you can hit a drive. If you, if you peered a drive and hit the right part of the ferry, they were rolling like 380. It was a complete joke. Like I'm telling you, rock hard, you bounce the ball. I mean, everyone saw the clips of the corner if you guys bounced the ball. But, so that was great. You know, then we, the next more.

we played Cruden Bay. And I didn't know another course. I knew nothing about their place was awesome. I was blown away by some of the holes down near the water. And these beaches in Scotland, they look like if the water wasn't nine fucking degrees, they'd be like California beaches. They're so, like, pure and nice, so much sand. And these holes are right on there on the back nine there.

That was an absolute blast. And then we had Helipov just come pick us up. That was a national league, A-list. biggest part of the trip helicopters come down on the driving range what is happening I mean we're also we're glossing over the fact he keeps saying like me and the boys he's with like Eric Carlson and captains of

national hockey league teams and I mean of course you got fucking hell choppers picking you up when you get the helicopter the guys you were with got the helicopters you're acting like they came down like you're the fucking president of the night you're like shoots a 69 like oh the helicopter you're like tapping those guys in the shoulder way you're like

is it like is it cool if I hop on the chopper Is that all right? No, no, no. You guys are wrong about that. I'll get into what I didn't buy. But no, I spent the same friggin thousands of dollars for the helicopter as Zettiburg and Carlson did. So that was my helicopter. My helicopter.

I'll chip in for gas on the, I'll chip in for gas, guys. Yeah. I'll get the Snickers bars a bit. I walked by a kid on the range. And I was like, can we walk out to the choppers? This kid was like a 50-old spot. He's like, let me see. how fast you can run.

I'll like this little motherfucker. But, uh, so we took the choppers into it, to Turnberry, Trump Turnberry. By far and away, my favorite,

the fact that the RNA won't give them an open because Trump's name on it is a disgrace. What a track. We checked in. We're up top. Actually,

it was right before the England, um, proacea soccer game, they ended up losing. So, you know, a place is buzzing. Everyone's ready to watch that. We're checking in.

We go out. And I think, put a video up on my Twitter, and Trump has some guy from 4 to 6, play the what is that fucking instrument? I can't even think of it right now. In Scotland. What do they play? The bagpipe. Dude, he's playing the bagpipe.

You're looking over the sea with a huge rock in the distance where they make every curling stone in the world. This place was unreal. And we stayed overnight and, you know, the morning we got up, there's like a little 60-70-yard course. We played that just fucking around like after breakfast. Then we went out

played around there. I was blown away. I can't believe how good this course was. They've redone it also since the last time when Tom Watson famously bogeed the 18th hole and then lost in the playoffs to Stewart. So that place, it blew me away. It was my favorite course. I don't know.

Have you played there? I have not played there. Anybody who, anybody who, I mean, if you go just look and you just Google image Trump Turnberry, the place looks fucking awesome. What was it like three, four years ago that he bought it? yeah it was three or four years ago and he's put in so much money and it's just it's incredible I cannot stress enough how sick of a corset was how fun it is I mean you some of these holes just on the cliff with the lighthouse it was insane and they have these awesome you know we had like

one big townhouse with them like rooms in it it was just such a sick setup on that day that i'm googling the imaging right now the first picture pops up is the helicopter pad um so I'm guessing that's where you flew into or where Eric Carlson and Zetterberg and all those guys flew into. Yeah. I mean, that's funny. It's like the first picture that pops up. We're dinner in the lighthouse. Not everyone can get that done.

That's a special. Jesus Christ. This place looks like something out of Middle Earth. Like, how the hell do you play golf? I'm looking at some of these pictures of like the helipad and I just imagine Whitney and like a cab coming up to the side, like catching up with the guys. Carrying all the bags. Like, all right. Let's go.

Yeah, I was the one that had to get Carlson's golf clubs when we landed. Jesus. Yeah, no, Dernberry was sick. I played with Gustav Nyquist, who's one of, if not the best, one of the best, hockey players I've ever, you know,

hockey player golfers who've ever played with. I think he broke par in four of the five, four or five of the eight rounds. We played just a complete stick. I mean, that's what I was going to ask you with is like, where were you compared to the guys

that you were playing with, ability-wise? Were you getting dusted out there? Or were you keeping, were you holding your own? No, on the trip, I think I might have been the money leader, actually. We, Gustav Nakers was the best player, and then Mike Commodore, or he's playing at a, he's playing at a

zero or a plus one. I was playing at a two. Commodore was playing at a three. Ryan Malone was at a four, and all of us were pretty even. A couple guys came in at a 10, 8, you know, we got Valteri Fippleck came in at the 13. Ooh, New Islander. So I'm like, okay, you're a six-swing. Dan Cleary was an 8. He shot like 76, 77 versus days. We're like, okay, hold on here. Relax, boys.

Yeah, a lot of handicapped chirping. But, you know, that day I actually played Nyquist at Turnberry, and it was a great match. I think we were even. We were both around even par, and this caddy's like, hey, at the par 5, 14 or 50s. Like, don't hit it in that bunker. It's so important to.

What do I do, hit in that bunker? Leave, like, three in there, triple. Nyquist wins, beats me. I was like, oh, my God. I thought I had that stick. But he was the best player. He used to go to like the St. Andrews Golf Academy when he was little. I'm like, all right, dude, now I know we're up again.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, this plays, it does. You're right. It looks like fucking Middle Earth. It looks like somebody like fabricated this. It doesn't actually look like that. That rock in the ocean is like laugh out of fun. Yeah, and that's where every, they literally make every curling stone ever created from that rock.

I'm like, so someday that rock just won't be there. Yeah. If the curling gets really popular or that rock's just gone. That's all business Pete's heaven right now. That is literally his is like mecca. Oh, we've got to ask all business feet if he knows where all the curling, what are they called? Curling stone. Curling stones?

Where the stones are made. I mean, the thing looks like a giant curling stone. That's just what it looks like. Yeah, fits in perfect. All right, so what after Turnberry? So, all right. So then, you know, what a trip. We're in Scotland.

but we had also planned and bought flights to go from there to Spain. We were going to fly into Malaga, Spain. Now, mind you, Malaga, however you say it, mind you, when this was all going on in the planning, like we all kind of thought, like, Scotland was like an hour from Spain. Turns out it was a three-and-a-half-hour flight. So, Henrik Zetterberg, Eric Carlson, and Nicholas Baxter Stanley Cup champion of the Capos,

they said, guys, we're going to get us a private jet, so don't worry about it. So a private jet came and picked us up. That was about a three and a half hour flight. It was very friendly, you know, flight attendants, things like that. Very good beer on the private jet. I don't know if you guys have ever been on one. And we flew to Spain.

Oh, I've been on a multiple with my... Oh, yeah, I forgot, Frankie. Yeah, I forgot. You've been a bag carrier on those things. Yeah, so me and you were one of the same. Exactly. So we went to Spain and we played Valderrama. And this place was the hardest golf course.

They had a rider cup. I don't remember what year it was. In the 90s, I believe. Just so many trees, every fairway, dog leg left or right. It was so difficult. Everyone was hurting, too, after a long trip and some Spain partying. And then we finished the next day at some random course, Loud Reserve.

We should have played ball around twice, but we want to try another course, kind of a mistake there, and then I flew home. So very memorable, unbelievable, fun golf trip that I kind of think about every year, and it didn't disappoint one bet. Yeah, it is not, I mean, people don't really realize, I guess, how many awesome golf courses there are in Scotland,

especially like a lot of the ones, even that you guys did on your trip. I mean, outside of maybe like Turnberry, you know, there might be a bunch that the average person in the state just has never fucking heard of because, you know, you hear about the kind of the San Andrews area trip and a handful of courses on the open rhoda, and outside of that you don't hear about a lot of them.

So I've heard Cruden Bay is outrageous. I've heard the Aberdeenians. area. I think that's where the Trump International one is too, is outrageous. And then it sounds like Turnberry, which has gotten kind of, I don't know, people scoffed at it a little bit in the last four or five years because the Trump name and all that bullshit

looks fucking out of this world. So it sounds like a good trip with the PJ and the helicopter. It sounds pretty good. Yeah, that made it a pretty national league trip, if you ask me, I would definitely say it was a pretty good trip. I've actually, we, that same group of guys, we've done England

and we've done Ireland. I I think Royal Port Rush for the Open going next year is my favorite course I've ever played in Europe. But England, too, I didn't expect a ton, but Hoylake, Liverpool was sick. We played Birkdale, blew me away. And then Royal Lidom Sain Inn where Ernie won the year Adam Scott collapsed, that was just insane, too. So there's so much golf over there, and it's so fun. I have way more fun playing links golf. I love it more than over here in the States.

But it's just you feel like you're just back to the beginning of golf, and that's what makes you so special. This is a stupid question, because I just don't know. about the Scottish golf that much, but all of their top golf courses, they're all just public, like as opposed to here when all the best golf courses in America are mainly private? So there's members. There's members over there, but yeah, they're all available to play, and they're pretty much, I mean, they're kept in business. A lot of these towns are not kept in business, but a lot of these towns rely on how many Americans are going over to play these courses, so they pretty much have to be available, but there's members. The funny thing about

over there is every time you play Pruden Bay, you know, all these places, Royal Aberdeen, the caddies are actually members. So, I mean, over here in the state, you, the caddy's never going to be a member in a lot of courses. I mean, that usually just doesn't happen unless it's a

kid who's a member in high school caddy in on the weekends. But these members are actually going out and caddians for visitors and tourists come to play, and it makes it pretty special and pretty original and that's so different from over here. Yeah, yeah, when I played at both Crail and at Carnusty.

Both my caddies there were members. That's outrageous. Yeah, like when I'm done caddy review, I'm going to just go off the first D and tee off. Yeah, and they, exactly. And they catty for you, and then the guy, like, I saw, like, every time they just write for the first Tee. You know, they get out there, they see the pins,

they get all horny, and they're like, I'm going to stripe it now. That's exactly what happened, especially, like, late, like, twilight time, evening, the wind dies down, and I know they just get a massive heart on. They're like, I'm going to go light that course up. after watching that fucking idiot putts around all day out there. So it's a different scene. It's a totally different scene.

All right. We got a couple listener questions and we'll let you go, Whitney. Okay. First one, these are from the galleries. First guy, Dave, this is kind of an interesting question. He basically asked, when you're pissing on the golf course, he said he got into a huge debate with a bunch of his buddies because when he pisses on the golf course, he goes over, you know, into the weeds or behind a tree or whatever, you know,

undoes the belt, the whole deal. and pee's like he's basically like out of urinal. And he said as other buddies were like, what are you doing you lunatic? You just unzip the fly and just pee out of the fly. Whitney, which kind of guy are you, you know, all belt everything or are you just a fly guy? Dude, I'm a fly guy.

I'm not going to untuck my shirt, undo my belt, undo the button on my shorts to piss. You pull your fly down and pick your dick out of your underwear and piss. It's a very work-smarter not harder situation. and like that's why the fly is there to do that. The people who, like, undo all of it, those are the same people that, like, in elementary school would, like, pull down their entire pants

and be like, this is totally normal, right? Now, all right, I've done both before. Like, it depends on, like, if my shirt's, like, kind of already untucked and I need, like, a new refitting, and I'm just, like, I feel gross, and I just need to, like, I need to go take a piss and just get a refresh. I'll get fucking naked out there, and I'll just, like, I'll just redo everything. So I undo, I undo everything. Yeah.

Why? Because how hard is it to just retuck your shirt? You actually feel better after you retouch. That's how I am? How hard is it to unzip a fly? Why don't even give yourself extra work? I feel like it's like a clean, fresh start almost. You kind of retuck the shirt in.

You kind of like readjust everything. It's just like a nice, I'm relieving myself. I'm kind of over there. I like to get a little fresh air in there even. Like, it's just nice. I also don't like the dick going near the thing, the zipper. Yeah, because you hear horror stories. Yeah, you ever seen something about Mary?

Yeah. Well, I mean, I also. So I'm like, I'm a little on the lazy side. Like, I don't wear a golf club because I hate taking it on and off. So I'm going to obviously be a zipper guy. I'm not going to do an untuck, re-tuck, re-tuck, unbuttoned, do the belt again. I'm just not. You don't wear a golf glove because it's what?

You're just too lazy? What does that even mean? It's too lazy to what? Put it on? Like, I just can't stand. Like, you put the golf glove on, you take it off, you go to your shot, you put it back on. You take it off. You go to the green.

You put it, it's like, and then I'm not going to wear my glove to hit my shot in the fairway and then walk all the guy. green with my glove on. Like, I was you going to take it off or from the T, so I just don't wear a glove. I mean, you're making it sound like you're being waterboard to wear this glove. I mean, you'd hate what Riggs says. Riggs uses a different glove every shot. I have a three glove rotation, Whitney.

So I do each shot, I use a different glove. I sweat, dude. I sweat a shit ton and I can't fucking stand when my hands are wet with the grip. So I make sure I have a dry, fresh glove every time. And it preserves the glove. My gloves last like fucking months because instead of ripping through. Instead of rip it. ripping through him every fucking shot, you kind of give him a whole up.

Whitney has these rugged man hands. And I mean, I guess for me, I have these little bitch boy, like, lady hands. So your hands are like veal. Yeah, so I need the glove. I guess Whitney can just go out there. He's like Moises Al-Lou. Just no love. He got fucking Freddie couples over here.

Just rip any club. Like, what is, okay. It must be nice. No, I remember, I remember playing with Mike Madonna on a golf trip like eight years ago. And I was probably at the time a 12-hand. handicap around and he was sick. He is sick. He's a sick scratch and he had no glove on.

I'm like, this guy's unbelievable striping around L.A. country club with no glove on. Like, why the fuck do I need a glove? It's a fucking, it's a sick move. Like, anytime I do occasionally I feel like I'll get a little lazy sometimes when it's a nice day, my hands aren't sweaty and I just stay in the middle of fairway. Somebody hands me in a college don't feel like putting my glove on. I'll hit one without.

I kind of feel like a badass. I don't know why that is. I just can't do it. I have a grip problem. I just can't do it. It gets in my head. It's more mental than it is anything. It's always been like that.

Like when I played baseball, I needed to fucking, like, make sure I had, like, the sticky stuff on my gloves. I just can't grip things. Speaking of Frankie's problems, Witt, I got a question. What would his, like, Frankie butter knife wedges, Borelli's situation have been chipping over in Scotland? Oh, God. I mean, dude, he would have been skull-fucking the ball everywhere with how hard it was. You had to nip it so clean, and I mean, he can't even nip it when it's sitting fluff fucking

fairway in fucking New York. Imagine him on a tight-ass fly in Scotland with a wind howling in his face. Oh, man. Just imagine the whole group running behind you

because they can't be anywhere near. I'm 12 yards out. Oh, I need to do it. Get your phones ready. Frangney's on the chip. Get your phones out. What do you say, Frankie, your friends when you play together

now they say, here we go. Well, no, if I'm playing with a buddy and we're joined up with two strangers, he'll, whoever I'm playing with will always just alert the people on the green and be like, you guys better watch out. I'm 11 yards off the green, by the way.

And I'm like, I just have to do a little bump and run. And this ball's flying at people's heads at 125 miles an hour. It's crazy. It's a problem I have. Next one. And it's still going on. No, Tommy. I mean, it's not Tommy, Jesus, Frankie.

It is going on. I'm starting to get a little bit more of a feel, but my mistakes are still worse than you can even imagine. And there's still multiple of them in a round. I mean, it can't be helping you that we talk. every week on a big golf podcast about how bad you're chipping. Right. And Whitney, we talked about this a couple days ago on the last podcast, but the problem is

the only time I ever have a chance to practice my wedge shots is when I'm hitting a wedge shot in a round that I want to play well in. I never have a chance to practice. Ever. Zero. I mean, we just don't have, like, we don't have the, we don't have the, like, we don't have the facilities really around, I mean, I guess I do have a putting green kind of close to my house.

but by the time I get home, it's like 8.30, and, like, I just, like, I think that there's no way I'm ever going to fix it. Like, I'm never going to fix it, so I don't feel like taking the time out. It's true. I guess you make me feel like an asshole for not really fixing my year. Go chip for a half-hour. If you want to fix it, you go 8-30 step up 10-30. But you're also, but I would like be, this is the golf course that I steal the golf balls from at the driving range. So I would be, I'd be breaking the rules. There's no chipping signs everywhere.

New York golf, I talk about this all the time. You have to give your fucking license, your registration, your social security number, your tax returns to just get a golf cart around here. So it's crazy. You can't chip anywhere. The other thing is when you got the chipping yips like you've got, it's also like you don't want to go to a chipping ring because if there's anyone else on the chipping green, you're going to be like four. You're like yelling four when you're chipping. It's like scaring people off of the puck. That's like whenever I, sometimes you go through phaser, like I can't hit a bunker shot.

And then when you go to like practice bunker shots and someone else is on the practice facility and you're just blading. golf balls all over the fucking facility. It's just a horrible feeling. Next guy as Kyle has... Sorry, Frankie. This can't be helping your mental approach to your chipping. No, it doesn't. We and Frank are going to play together.

Me and Frank are going to play together in September. Yeah, we do. We do. We got to get... We got to get around. We got to put all the... Everything we've been talking about, especially when we have wit on, into visual form for all of the listeners. All right. We got Kyle who asks, very simple question. How do you handle when someone is hitting into you? So usually, like, it'll happen once, not a big deal, but then you kind of know the guys that are like,

they're just hitting into you a couple different times per round, whether it's on a part five, when they're going for it and two when they fucking should be waiting or when it's off a tee, when you're clearly not out of the way of the fairway. How do you handle it when someone comes up to you or when someone's hitting into you? Frankie, let's go to Frankie. Thoughts on when someone's hitting into you? I guess the New York Italian, like, you know, aggression comes out of me when stuff like this happens. for some reason.

I can't stand it. I mean, I'm not for some reason. I guess everyone can't stand it, but I just, I give them the hands the first time. I'm like, what the fuck you doing? The flail? The flail. Because you know that they're 400 yards away. They can't really see what you're doing.

So I make it very visual to the point where they know I'm upset. Or you'll just stare them down and you're like, what are you doing, man? Like, where are we going? Because I play a lot of public golf courses and the fucking rounds take six and a half hour sometimes in New York. It's like, where the fuck are we going? Like, I understand I'm waiting to hit my shot. But like, the guys are on the green. You're on the T-box.

You're hitting past me. The balls are rolling all. It's like you're fucking at war. The balls are flying by your head. You're like, I've played where, like, the balls have just been raining down on my, on my group. It's just like, where are we going? And you just scream. Like, where do you want me to go?

So I can't take it. I'm too much of a dink and a twink and a twink to get in a fight. But, you know. Dink and a twink in a twink. What? A dink in a twink. What does that even mean? I'm a dinky twink.

You think I'm going to go up to someone and fucking fight them? No chance. I'm not saying you would, but I don't. know if dinky twink is what you were looking for that call yourself a dinky twine i don't even know what is that it's like uh you look oh that's like uh there goes frankie barring himself again it's like you don't know how to think can't call you dinky twink yeah it's like you don't even know how to talk sometimes sometimes and then when he realizes he can't talk he starts calling people midgets and it's like we don't know what's going

listen they're grown ass man you're lashing out and people you're what are you talking about what is a I don't know. You know, Francis gets to me sometimes. He tells me all these names about what do you, like, just,

just like your feminine feature? Yeah, yeah, we just got to stop talking right now. All right. Just at the next few plays out. Whitney, what do you think about

hitting into people? Dude, honestly, I can't even get over Dinky Dinkie Dink. I can't even get over it. You might just have to wrap up on that. It's a good point.

I don't know. I don't know. If anyone ever, if someone hit, thing do you want to take? What are you doing? And then if they say sorry, it's one thing if they don't and then it happens again, I would fucking rip their ball right back towards them.

I like that. I do. The guy also, he suggested that he said one time his buddy just took a Sharpie and went up to that guy's ball and just wrote, fuck you on his ball. That I like. That I like. I think that's if you're playing at country clubs and stuff, this stuff doesn't really. And if it does, it becomes a real

problem, right? Because you like, you go back to the, you go back. Yeah, you like know each other. Yeah, and you know each other and there's reputations that are in hand. When you're on the public golf course, you don't know who the fuck's behind you. So, like I said, I'm not going to go confront him. I'm just going to give him a flail. Yeah, the flail's a big one because, like, yeah, nobody can hear each other too far away. You just give them the line.

If it happens, and they're always going to come up to you and be like, sorry, guys on the next team. But if it happens multiple times, you just ignore that and that pisses them off. Yeah. It's like, I just fucking apologize. But, yeah. Yeah, you're right. When they say sorry and you just don't even acknowledge them. That's the best.

Yeah, that's a bad feeling for the other guy. All right, Whitney. we're going to let you go. We appreciate you jumping on. We appreciate hearing about your fucking helicopters and private jets in Scotland in Spain. That's really normal. Yeah, it was a hell of a trip.

And I'll talk to you, dinky twinkie twink later. I'm going to puke, still. I have to hang off. See you, boys. All right, see you, pal. See you, what? All right, big thanks to Whitney. Very entertaining, as always.

Frankie, hopefully you can recover for next week. Yeah, I just got to, I don't know what. I got to do. Maybe get some sleep. Sleep feels like a good idea. Did we establish your not a coffee guy? Not a coffee guy. You drink coffee.

Do something. Yeah. I mean, the internet's been down at my house. So I've kind of been driving myself crazy this week. The landscaper just cut my fucking internet wire. Yeah, why did they do that? They just did it. It was like they were trimming some trees and they just cut the wire and fuck, man.

It's been a week and a half. Well, it's going to be a week and a half when it gets restored. And that's one of the worst things that's ever happened to me. Uh, not having any TV internet internet. I can't even. What do you do? I watch everything on my phone. Like, everything's just miniature now.

And you're just like, you gotta talk to people or whatever? Yeah, it sucks. It's, it's bad. So I think that's actually what's kind of driving me crazy. I think it probably is. Oh, there was a great little, uh, Mr. Borrelli wrinkle to that story that I heard you tell earlier. Yeah, he was, uh, we were just like complaining. I was like, you guys got to call up these, uh, landscape.

and figure out why the hell they just cut this wire. And my mom called down. And she's like, you know, we don't have Internet. And, like, my son works to this company that needs Internet. And he's got to, like, edit stuff and post it. And the guy's, like, you know, there's a Starbucks down the road. That's what he said to her. And I'm like, I'm across.

For whatever reason, that guy hates you and your family. I mean, just look at it on the road to that Starbucks, pal. I'm a terrible solution. There's a Starbucks down the road. Well, now, this was the person that, um, This is the company that actually cut the line. This isn't even like the cable company. This is like our landscapers.

This guy's like, yeah, you know what? Like you shouldn't have had that wire there. As if we've had wires just like, like we place wires certain places. Yeah, that was you guys. You were like, oh, this is the right spot for you. You know, it's July. We usually keep the wire hanging across that tree there. We shouldn't have put it there.

It's our fault. But, you know, my dad's like been pretty into this. He's like, you know, we all get to talk now and everyone's in the same room. And no one's on the computer. You're watching TV. We're eating dinner. We're eating dinner together, we're talking. My dad, like, claims that when it gets restored, the new wire they put in is going to be just, like, better.

He's like, well, yeah, they're going to put in a new wire, and the internet's going to be faster. I remember Trent and everyone was just giving, was giving him shit. They're like, you know, he's going to be in his head now. Yes. And now that he's made that proclamation, as soon as it gets hooked up, he's going to be like, whoa, buddy. I told you guys, you know, look at this Google. Oh, what is this, the Audubon? This is crazy.

A new fresh wire is going to be delivering, in his mind, the fastest internet of all the five. Just blowing his hair back. I guess there's someone that doesn't understand how much goes into it. And obviously how it doesn't really matter at all at these, like, old-ass wires that probably just get passed around. You know, they take some down from here. There's no chance that they're just getting like, like, because he think there's like a wire company that they go pick up a new wire. He thinks you guys are getting a massive wire up for your internet. And that it's going to like, yeah, it's going to somehow send internet faster.

to you. Yeah. So he thinks that we've had these wires, which I guess it's true. I always think about this. You have all this wires, and I guess he's getting in my head, you have all these wires and all this foundation of, you know, phone lines and stuff. And then basically they've upgraded everything in your house and everything in the satellites and shit, but they've never upgraded the infrastructure and the, you know, the foundation. And these are old-ass wires. So maybe he gets on to something. But I just don't think that they're bringing in like this new fucking and H-DMI cord or something that's like a nice coiled, brand new

fiber optics. It has like a new wire smell to it. I think that the guys at Cablevision just have an old wire sitting in the back of their truck that's been there for 10 years. And they're just like, let's just throw this thing up there. And maybe we'll put two antennas together. Maybe Frank Borelli will have some internet.

He's going to be like clicking Google. Whoa. Wow. Mr. Brilly like this, buckle up, folks. We got new internet wire. Maybe he can use it to buy his new Square Strike? square strike because you know he hasn't gotten that yet no no it's a bummer you're gonna yeah you're gonna

break his heart too with your you kind of throwing him under the bustle yeah with his whole with his batting cage's story yeah well he prides himself on that story because he knows he really got me deep he really messed me up he knew you've been upset about it for a long time i've been upset about that for a real long time then he'll be fine this wasn't like a revelation no that's a victory over me okay gotcha because he never cracked we'll be back next week when we're back it's gonna be tiger is going to be back back-to-back weeks. Two huge weeks. We got Firestone, WGC, huge field there,

followed up by the BGA Championship. So we keep rolling right along. We'll be back next Tuesday. Enjoy the Canadian Open. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Against the best. This old road's been a hell of a test.

I'm still driving. I ain't slowing down. There's rules I love to break and bend. Mistakes I've made again again. But I tell you this, my friend. I'm still around I hit it hard man I've seen these ups and downs

Somehow I just keep on playing through So all you critics pull up a chair At the winter circle soon I'll be there With a high five and a smile Lawyers and strings Spending money like my ex-wives Sure I gamble and a drink

And smoke three packs a day Ain't country music Supposed to be this way It's from the hard man. I hate it hard man.