Fore Play - We Are The Champions

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

The Fore Man Scramble beat Kevin Kisner at Pinehurst No. 2. We are here to talk about it. From Trent’s first tee jitters to Rigg’s final putt, we detail the iconic match from the U.S. Open tees at Donald Ross’ masterpiece. Then, we discuss Rory’s “personal hunch” the Ryder Cup will be moved to 2021, the stigma surrounding pushcarts, what we think our personal official world golf rankings are, and much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We're winners. We're coming to you live from Pinehurst. The whole crew is still here. We're in the lovely Carolina hotel. It's raining. Everything got done and went incredibly well, especially because we defeated on the 18th Green of Pioneers number two against all odds.

I believe it was like 84% of people on an Instagram poll said we would lose. lose. Links Jim said we were minus 500. People were saying we're going to lose on the 14th or 15th green. Our range session looked pretty pathetic. Kids looked phenomenal. And we won. We won one up on 18. Who's next? We did it, boys. Yeah, we defeated our first enemy. You know, it felt like an enemy on the T-box. Kiz is one of our friends. He's a, he's a friend of the show. And I love seeing him. I love seeing Dewey. I love seeing his whole team. But when we got into that first that first practice range that little session we had there before we went up there he was an enemy he was an enemy i looked at him like i wanted to beat him and we did i called dewey the day before

an enemy i shouted across like the putting green at pine herz and i said you're the enemy this week yeah that's what they were and i will say it was a scramble i mean we were scrambling the whole time there was only one ball usually in play but everybody had a piece i'm both stunned and also like not stunned. I don't know how to explain that. Like, I'm stunned that we actually did it, but once we started doing it, I knew we were going to win. When I realized that we could keep up with him shot to shot with the scramble, like, we were hitting drives and then second shots onto the green. I'm like, by the third or fourth hole, I'm like, we're going to win this thing. I agree with that. Because then we got like this, holy shit, our horrible skills are actually good enough to keep up with him when we combine him four ways. Right, because going into it, we weren't even sure if it was going to be a contest. Like, we think. We think. We thought we might lose by like the 11th hole. I didn't know if it was physically possible. Right. That was my point.

7,600 yards. It's a lot of yards. Correct. Some of those T-boxes are a joke too. Some of the most tiring parts of the day were walking back to those T-boxes. Feels like they're off property. They did. Some of them felt like they were in the middle of a road.

They were backed up to the clubhouse. That was, I mean, my dogs were barking yesterday. Oh, barking. Howling. And here's another thing. People that are listening to this and that were on Twitter and all our forms of social media that said, we had no chance. You don't now get to go back and say like,

well, yeah, well, you get to scramble and you guys, like, you made your bed and we tucked you in, kissed you on the forehead and put you to sleep. Like, that's what we did. We told you a good night story. We read you over the moon.

We had the sheep's running up to 100, all right? And now we are the winners. You got to let us parade around a little bit. We just won. Like, yeah, it sounds funny. Like, yeah, we had four shots. We beat him in a scramble. But you all thought we couldn't do it.

it. I have tweets out the asshole saying you have no chance. You guys don't have the skill to hit the ball far enough to keep up with a pro. He's going to shoot a 69. He's going to shoot 70. Impossible to get under par, Piner's number two. I don't care if you guys had eight people. I don't care if you guys had, oh, Frankie's a fake handicap. Fuck you. We won. We could put the four-place scramble in any PGA tournament this year. Yep. And we'd compete. We'd compete. I'm not going to say we'd win, but we compete. We proved it. We proved it.

I need to not be, I need, if we were going to do that, I need to not be in my apartment for two straight months doing little to no physical activity because I would not be able to do that again today. Like I couldn't do it today. Like I'd be in my bed. It'd have to be the three of you and I just wouldn't be out. Think about that fact too. Riggs has been playing for two straight months. Yep. He was on fire with his wedges.

Lurch has been playing here and there. You came down to North Carolina. Yeah, but I've been playing the last two weeks or something like that. I've been playing. I played three times since. quarantine and Trent hasn't swung a golf club since Australia. That's correct. And we just beat Kevin Kisner in a scramble.

So, like, you want to talk about all this stuff. You guys are, you're a golf podcast. You should be able to, no, I don't play golf that much. Trent hasn't swung a golf since Australia. And these two guys are playing sporadic. I mean, Riggs is playing a lot of golf, but he also proved that he's playing a ton of golf. Riggs is playing more golf than arguably anybody else on the planet. That's a fact.

I've been playing a lot. Yeah. But you know what? It all worked out. We all played our style of game. And I was saying last night to someone, I don't know who or maybe it was this morning, we like went from tea to green and and every it was like I was stronger on the tea and then it went to like lurch with the longer irons and then it went to rigs with the chipping and then Trent was hitting those little baby putts in. It was like so weird how it moved like a wave.

It was interesting in that we needed everyone's strengths and we got them. Like like you said, like we if you took out any one of our strengths that you just listed, we never would have won. Right. Like we had to have all of those things. And Kiz was fucking rattled because he kept calling us what, like the last chance or the last one hit wonders because we love that name. Three shots would be like there's no way we're not making bogey. And then one would be just perfect right when we needed it. And it could be the first guy, second guy, third guy, fourth guy, whoever it was.

It was like several occasions. It was one guy who hit that shot. Three shit drives. And then Frankie would rip one. It'd be three shit approach shots from 220 yards. The Lurch would rip one on to the front collar. It was just like it just when we needed it, we got it. And it was tight.

We knew it was going to be tight. Kiz played great. Kiz, like, he stunned me how well he played because he really didn't make anything. He missed a couple makeable birdie putts and still shot even par from 7,600 yards at Pioneer's number two, not being in tournament shape at all. He was talking last night about who. He's like, I haven't been in that scenario. where I was legitimately grinding, trying to win a golf, like, trying to post a golf score since the PGA tour. Because I haven't had an experience anywhere close to that since the PGA tour.

Because he didn't want to fucking lose. He's like, no. And he did, he was doing everything. Like when we would finally, when that fourth guy or third guy would hit a good shot, he would fucking turn his head and be like, are you kidding me? Like, he was rattled. That's what you'll see in the video. You'll find out that he couldn't believe how well we were playing. Like, especially on some alertes approach shots.

Yeah. And definitely on the first green, when all. of us scared the hole on that putt. He was like, these guys, if they keep putting like this, I could be in some real trouble. And we put it like that pretty much all day. He kept saying he's sick of us. Like if I hit a good drive, he goes, I'm fucking sick of you, Frankie. Like, what's going on?

Or like Riggs would hit a good chippy bike. There we go. Everyone blades one over the green and Riggs just chips it up to five feet. He couldn't understand the concept of a scramble. Like, yeah. Like, yeah. Like, I'm not going to hit this chip. For him, like, he's just waiting for the dominoes to fall on one hole where it's just like, boom, boom,

boom, it's a giveaway. And it just never happened. Dude, like, legit never went that way. I was putting a group chat with a mutual friend in here. The guy said, Kiz, how the hell did you just lose? And he wrote back, Frankie dropped five,

two hundred and 90-yard bombs with no one else in play today. Fuck him. That's how I lost. And that's, you could say that about every single one of us, right? Like, Lurch hit four 210-yard five irons onto the greens, while everyone else chunk-sidded them, not even close,

where we would have made sevens and eights on those holes, as opposed to putting for birdie. Like or that one hole, what was it, 14 where Riggs chipped over that bunker? I mean, that is legitimately a double boeh. We didn't have a ball on the green out of it. Not even close. Right. No, I had one. Mine was like 12 feet, but you put one to four.

Four. Yeah, which was then it locked up. On 13, I think. Did we have one on the green on 13 with that chip? We had one maybe in like the back middle of the green. 13 was the short and the short where we drove it up short. And we were just short of the green. we had like a 30-yard chip.

Kids drove the green. Oh, yeah. I was up, I was past the green to the left. No, and then we all had, no what I'm saying, on the chips.

Did anybody chip it? I putt it, came back to my feet. Trent puttick came back to his feet. Oh, yeah, I don't think so. Your chip went over. I forget.

And then Riggs went to, yeah, four feet. So it was just all day like that, and that had to be infuriating, uh, for kids. We got a lot more to get to on this.

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It was, so the Scramble was, I would say, very fascinating too in the sense of like, I just loved listening to kids and do we talk a lot of the times. Yeah. Like on the 13th hole we were just talking about where they moved the T way up because that's what they did one day during the U.S. Open.

So it went from a 390 par 4 to like 270. Something Kis was right in between driver and three wood. And hearing them talk about it, kids is like, I can't get my three wood there. So why am I going to hit three wood? And then Dewey's like, and Kiz can do is like, all right, hit the driver. And Kiz goes, what's behind the green? Like he just didn't know because he's not, you know. And so Dewey, one of the north-south here is kind of like, well, I think if you try to hit that little cut,

you know, driver instead of your sling and draw, it could be the right yardage and if it just dribbles off the back or that that's okay, but like short, you know, and hearing them talk through that, and then Kiz hit this little, like, baby cut, soft swing driver that landed right next to the pin

and finished, you know, 20 feet behind it and E2 put it for Bertie. But, like, being right there, we always talk about how micing up the guy, the player in the caddy would be the best thing. And it was so intense down the stretch and Kiz wanted to win so badly. And we were doing everything we just described.

He had no choice but to grind and to care. And so Dewey and him talking through shots, like it felt like we were in contention to win a PJ at Tour event. Well, it was the biggest sporting event any of us played since my college. Like, I mean, it was the biggest sporting event. Maybe I'll ever play. I mean, hopefully we do it again soon because I think it was just such a success. But it was the big, like, pre-tournament, pre-event with kids on the range.

I was legitimately trying to get myself in the best. physical spot I could. I mean, that morning I was stretching. I was stepping on golf balls to loosen up my feet, which hopefully will loosen up the whole ball. And I was doing everything to try to be able to swing back. You're stretching the shower? I stretched in the shower.

I did a couple lunges. That's a great story. I thought we were getting, like, I wasn't going to get up. I'm like, man, I got a slippery floor beneath me. I don't have much strength to stand on. And if I go down, it's over for me. So it was risky. But also, there's no denying there was quite a crowd there, like, for what it was.

It's different down here. distance but there was people there's nothing going on too nothing going on people wanted to walk around there and you felt it when you're on the tea boxes like i was in the fucking pga tour and there was a couple times where like i knew i had to hit one because kids maybe had the tea first and you were like our best driver at one point and you went way right and like Trent daddy would hit the tree and i'm like i said to myself being an athlete frankie and i remember like everything got quiet and i piped one right down the middle at one point like up to where kids hit and and you just heard that like PGA tour clatch.

It's just like, ooh, like someone went, ooh, has the balls in the air. And I'm like, this feels awesome. Like, that felt real cool. Really cool. When I hit that six hours, the best feeling of my life. Oh, the place went crazy. Crazy.

And then Ebug gets the best quote of Kisner of all time that I'll ever have on, I might put that on my gravestone. He was like, what did you say, Ebug? You go, what the fuck are we going to do about Lurch? Yeah, Ebug goes up to Kisner. He goes, what the fuck are we going to do about Lurch? And he goes, I don't know. He's a problem.

that five iron he just hit like that's crazy and mebug was like no that's a six iron he was like he's a club longer me this is a problem and that's when we were getting close to the end I saw that today and I mean but the golf clap was like it's all time when you make something I couldn't get my ball in the tea in the first hole I don't blame you and kids was ready for that chirp yeah I just couldn't do it I was the first one up I just I was the first one to tee off and there were people there a decent amount of people and I was just like I'm not going to get this ball in this tea and I might as well just go home because my hands were shaking and even do it do we do he was the best man like he was obviously he's kisner's caddy so he's on his side but he looked at me he

he was like you just got to breathe like you're not breathing right now and you need to take some deep breaths the same thing you did at that page you just got to breathe i did i forgot to breathe and so i i i had took a couple deep breaths and i hit a pretty good drive but after that i was happy with it but those those first t shots were very nerve-racking yeah it's a close a great one though yeah yeah that felt good i feel like it's a little claustrophobic on that t too right like it's it's kind of back in the corner and there's like hedges and then the clubhouse and then a little like hut so there's not a ton of space so then it's like everybody's kind of on top of each other there were fans there there was like the pinehurst folks there to kind of see us off and then we're a team of four or five if you include

our caddy thomas who was a hero absolute here got to watch the piner's number two our travel series video thomas is very much involved in that so we knew we had to get someone from that logan wasn't available it's not like thomas was number two but like if i was going to pick someone It would be my guy, Logan. If you've watched the travel series, you know why. You guys are a bromance. He texted me, by the way. He's like, video is amazing.

You guys are amazing. I'm like, marry me. You want to get away together and just do something. Let's just start reading some greens together or something. Yeah, bro. Just get old together. And Thomas was a hero. He was on our team.

And I talk about that a lot in that travel series. Like, when you have a caddy that's on your team, he's not just out there to just, like, get his money and just do a loop. Like, Thomas wanted us to win. At one point, like, he told me, like, don't listen over there doing, like, you listen to me. I'm like, holy shit, Thomas. Like, are you going to make me run through a fucking wall? That's great. Yeah, he's like, don't listen to that pro over there.

He's trying to beat you. I'm the pro. This is nonstop chatter, too. Nonstop. I was just trying to ignore him. And, uh, but he is nonstop. I mean, like, when you have a moment of weakness, he's talking so much that he gets you in that moment.

I try to flip it on him. When we were walking to the first tee, he was like, oh, I bet you're super nervous, trying. I was like, I'm really, really nervous. Like, you, like, disarm them by agreeing. Yeah. That's what I try to do with Kisner because otherwise you try to fight against it. You're just going to find yourself in a web. But if he's like, you can't hit a shot, I'd be like, I bet I probably can't either.

It works pretty well, actually. So no one can get in your head more than you're already in your own head. Absolutely not. Yeah. If I know how bad I am, if I'm self-aware enough, you can't say anything to me that's going to knock me off my game. It's a good lesson going forward. I love that. I love that.

You know? Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Just disarm with honesty. Say, what else are going to tell me? Yeah, like you're a pro. I'm really shitty. I haven't swore a club since Tasmania. Like, what are you going to do to me?

Since Tasmania. That's a fake life thing to say, too, Tasmania. Yeah. What a fake life place. Yeah, I said on this podcast before, but if someone asked me if I've been to Tasmania, I'd say no. Just because it doesn't seem like a thing that happened.

Thomas was a hero. He, uh, he too, on every, like people probably couldn't see, but we would spray three drives all over the place, one down the middle. And by time we walked up, he had all three balls sitting right, or all four balls sitting right there.

That was magic. That was magical. That was magic. I was magical. We took 21-thous. What did we play this thing in like four hours? No, no, no. It felt like it.

Four and a half at least, right? But I'm saying it was a scramble. We're running all over the place. He had us moving. No. He had us absolutely moving. Jake just goes pretty sure who's five and a half. I don't know what time we finished.

Me either. The point being is that it should have been a seven-hour round. The way we're running all over the place, looking for balls, making decisions. And we never had to take time. At one point, kids was like, we're moving right now. Well, we were so discombobulated on the first. that like you had a nice little.

You called me on the cell phone. Huh? You called me on your cell phone. That's what I was going to get to. I didn't know what to do because it was so far behind. I was like, I'm not just going to shout across Piner's because it was like a hundred yard difference. So I'll just call Frankie.

So I picked up the phone and called him. I was like, what ball should we play? I mean, we didn't know. There was no protocol before this. We're on the first hole playing a PGA pro in our first four-man scramble. And I'm like, Lurch is calling me from the other side of the fairway.

I'm like, this just feels like we're not doing something. It feels like we don't know what we're doing. And we don't. We get together. We had a few holes where we waited on people. We caught up to the group and waited on that. So, like, I think our pace was fine. Kids was obviously chirping us hard on pace of play.

But I think we were fine. I think we were completely fine. And it's a four-man scramble. And to go back to Frankie's point of I'm seeing people responding. Like you said, I'm like, well, of course you guys make that put. You get to see it and read it three times. Like, no, that's the deal. That was like the deal that you said we couldn't come out on the winning side of.

we did. So it's like it doesn't matter that we get three look or they're like, well, you don't have the pressure because like the other three guys get to hit shots too. No, we know. That's a scramble. That I said that I agree with. I agree with that too. That's the scramble.

We're not saying this guy straight up. It's a scramble. Those are the rules. We think he's good. That's how we make this even. And it was even. It's not like it was a blowout by any means. Like it was a dead even heat and we got four looks of every shot we took yesterday.

And we won. To the point of like of the. chirping too. There were points where like his was terrifying to the point where he would hit a bad shot and none of us were chirping. Oh no, no. Remember what was it? 16. Coming out of the bunker on 16

and he knifed that. He bladed one out of the bunker on 16 and we were like tapping at that point. Because that made us go one up I think. I was one. I watched you start walking over and I went over to rigs. I was like, I'm not going anywhere fucking near. I had a smirk on my face because he bladed one out of the bunker and I was about to say like

you want some butter with that knife or something like that or anything. And I, he gave me a look like, don't you dare come over here. Because like, I don't know if it's a sense of embarrassment, but he doesn't want to lose to us. Right. He wants. He wants, like, he doesn't want to play poorly. And he wasn't playing poorly. He shot even par from 70s and 70 yards. I think anyone takes that from US Open T's like any pro. At a US Open court. Like that course from that T from those T's is as hard as golf gets. Correct. And he shot even par without really making anything. But you're just, but what at the end of day, what you're dealing with, Kisner, 36 in the world, 20 million in the bank.

Like you don't get to that. level unless you're like a driven want to win motherfucker and like even in a stupid scramble with stupid idiots like us he still gets into that mode where he's like i want to win and like frankie saying maybe there's some embarrassment where people are like you can't beat these fucking clowns and i was just there were moments where i was like i'm not going to go over there the other side is he's been beating clowns like us his whole life yes so the fact that like somehow we can come together and must be infuriating because like us losers have lost along the way yeah and that's why we're here. He's been like never lost, you know? Yeah. Repetition. That's why he's there.

It's like, it's like when you go, like he's the best of the best where he's from. And it's always been that way. It didn't matter when he got high school. He was the best. College. He was the best pros. And then he starts getting there a little more parody. But like he's been the best forever. Right. Right. There might be no one in South Carolina that could beat him at golf. Exactly. Except the four of us together. Right. And then now he comes over to like Pioneers. He drives four hours and like us idiots who he beats this shit out of. I mean, he beat me with five and four with 14 shots. Like he just pounds people like us and embarrasses us all the time.

And we were able to come together and beat it. But I was going to say like, like, I lost the 12 year old. I got killed by Kisner with 14 shots. That felt fucking great to win yesterday. Yeah. It just felt so good to get a win. You want to talk about you walking into your put on 18 like a crazy person? I don't know what happened.

I blacked out. One of the crazier things I've ever seen. You walked so early that I thought you're like, oh, I missed it. I hit a bad one. So the reason I think that happened was like it's a scramble, obviously. And two of you guys, I think it was Trent and Frankie, hit great putts. That was putt in all day. Should have gone in.

Yep. And like lurches were pretty good too. He didn't know the read. But the time you guys hit yours, it was like we're playing it dead straight. And it wiggles right. And then you guys both wiggled left at the end out of nowhere and just like went right across the cup and barely miss. And so when I saw it, I was like, I'm going to play this just like right center. because I think it goes left at the end.

So I hit it. And when I looked up, I knew because I had just watched the putt twice, that was the exact same putt. Mine was like a fraction to the right of your guys is. And I was like, it's impossible for that to not go in. Like, I just watched it roll twice. It has to go in. So, and obviously everything's happening fast.

But I just, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go get my ball now because it's going on the hole. It was amazing. It was an amazing walk in. You're on 18 where, like, I think Pioneers, like, tweeted out. Like, Pioneers, like, this is one of the more iconic moments. Like we've seen like U.S. Open's here. Like this is it. Like this is added to it.

Riggs's putt on 18. I think it gave us all confidence through three because we made a birdie. Riggs made a toilet bowl pot that literally went around the lip like six times before it fell. But like once we won one or even when we have the one, I was like, we're not going to die here today. Do we won the front? That was like what the hell is going on? What was our yardage coming in on one? We had 1.38 or something?

Yeah, something like that. But we took it from the sand. Because I ripped the pitching wedge. Yeah, I had a pitching wedge to 30 feet. We all burned the edge on one. And I was like, well, we could win. The kids made like a clutch 10 footer. And then on two, though, like the whole like one, I thought, I was actually a little bit of me was like, okay, if we can get through one without him birdying and us not burying or like, or not just losing the first hole, fine.

But like two is the real. Two is a 500 plus yard par four. We like lurch pipe to drive. and we had 2.32 to the flag. And it's like, what? And that's hitting to a Donald Ross Pioneer's number two eggshell green, where it's like runoffs everywhere. And we got out of there with a pretty easy part. So it was like, okay, we're not going to make many bogeys.

We can definitely make some birdies. Like, this is going to be a match. And I think kids kind of realize that quickly to you. You could see, like walking off one green, like we said after we burn the edge of it. He's like, all right, if it's like this all day, this is going to be a battle. Yeah, I hit one of the best speedputs my life from off the green on number two. Yeah, that was incredible. Went to a foot.

And he was like, that's good. And I saw him. He was like, what the hell is this? And I think at that point, he called me a silent killer. And I was, Jake came up to me. He was like, what do you think of this? Kisner just called you a silent killer. I was like, don't tell me.

Don't tell me anything. I don't want a hero. So, yeah, early on, I think that it was pretty obvious that we were going to have a chance. We were one up through three. We did make a bogey on four. And it was like, oh, no. But then we came right back on five. We put the heat on Kiz.

Kiz ended up in an awful spot that having been here for two and a half months. I've seen a lot of people in that front left bunker. And it was like that green beat the hell out of all of us except for Trent when we played it. And November in the travel series video, four play golf on YouTube, which people should go check out. But that green is ridiculous. And I was like, Kiz has like a 52-yard bunker shot uphill to a green that you almost can't hold with any club in your bag. Like, what's he going to do? And that was another one where like, we hit some shit drives.

We were able to lay up. We were able to get one to like 10 or 12 feet. And kids afterward was like, yeah, you guys forced my hand there. He's like, I was just going to hit this explosion shot thing onto the front part of the green and two putt. He's like, you guys had fucking 10 feet up the hill four looks at it for birdie. I had to try to hit some insane shot. He makes bogey there, concedes our birdie.

So it was like it was just kind of a, it was like a legitimate rider cup level like match. Like it was being like great golf was being played. We just had four shots at every time. That was another one too where it was. was like we had one man standing off the tea. I hit one first ball that hit the tree and went dead right and almost killed somebody. Then I came right back at their heads. They all were just getting up from the shot that Lurch just hit, like literally like panting

and asking everyone if they're okay. And then I just came back with an even lower hook bullet. Like there was fucking war over there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then thank God. Riggs pushed one the other side, but Trent Daddy put one just in like the hard pan stuff. Yeah.

You hit a good five-round after, but it was that way all day. It was hysterical to see. Yeah, it had to be infuriating for kids. I think it obviously was. I don't know that every force, I don't know that every force him out there beats him. I think we played really well. I do too. We had shots.

I mean, to Riggs's point, it's like the law of averages or whatever one of us is going to hit a good shot here. But, like, we did have some timely, timely moments that. Huge. If those don't happen. I mean, it was a tight match. Like, you play your buddy and you beat your buddy by a stroke. You're like, that was the closest match I've ever played. But also, it's such a long golf course that you need, like, heroes.

Like, those long irons are hitting. With the long irons. Without that, we don't even come close. Or what if we found ourselves in the shit? Like, or what if we have to take one of Trent's, like, baby cut drives that leaves us 280 yards out into the green? Right. And you didn't hit a bomb or mine didn't find the fair. way all the way out by kids we're not making pars and birdies there we're not even coming close right

i mean we have a wildly different skill set in this room which is crazy which helped us a lot which makes us a really competitive scramble makes us a complete golfer you have to be in the boy that really is what it is it makes us four of us make one kind of complete golfer right you have to be in the fair way i found oh yeah even when you're in that hard pan stuff like some of the drops that we were doing they were plug in like we didn't get a lot of club on it even on one like we all we had four shots at it one of them ended up getting up there but like it was dicey on one hitting from the from the hard pan stuff like you got to be in the fair way that's the biggest thing going forward is even if and we actually made that decision one of them was like 160 yards out

from the green the other one was what 215 in the fairway and we took the fairway one yeah i mean we did that on one yeah because trent was like 190 or something like that on one and i was 137 over 138 up we did the opposite on one and what he's yeah yeah i know but like we have to make those decisions based on the lane and yeah i know but like we have to make those decisions based on the length because that golf course is so long. So on one, we were lucky enough that we're closer, but yeah.

But then you see him fucking pissing on irons, and it's like, oh, we can take those ones that are further out that are in the middle of the fairway. Like, I think without those long irons, I think we are so strong.

How about we knew each other's game so well that that one time I'm like, well, like, I'm going to hit the driver here up the left side because you're going to take a three-win and put it into those bunkers up there by the green. And like,

we ended up doing it to the point where we knew we were okay and you took the three-wood anyway and put it right into the bunkers on the green side. good call. But like that's nerve racking if someone didn't hit a good shot prior to that we're in a green side bunker hitting up into a green. You're talking about 16 when you laced the hybrid right to the front green you're like no

that's a three wood and I tried it and I just pushed it right in bunkers. But that was the best thing because like on two I pulled a hybrid and I hit it like pin high but it was probably 30 yards left. And then you did the same thing but you hit it like 15 yards left. So like we were taking less of the issue out of play

with and I mean we're team gang. There's no one can doubt us as a competitive scramble team. You got to think the next person we play wants to beat us bad because we're 1 in 0. Do we become the favorites the next time we play? No. You don't think so?

No. Really? What? Really? I think it's another 50-50 spread. I mean, like it is a coin. We beat this guy by one.

We're talking like, on a course that made him miss a lot of puts and like made him play really like he grinded. Oh yeah. So if you play a guy at his home country, country club you play a guy like j t like his home golf at medalist or something at medalist he's going to rip a 65 right before and we better start draining some putts that day because we did get away with a lot of pars a lot of pars i heard kisner step over to one t-box and he goes i don't even remember

this whole and i was like man we have such an advantage out here yeah yeah that was huge but i don't know i think i think it's it's also kind of a miracle that it was that it was as close as it like we got lucky that the formula turns out to be really competitive, right? Like, even if it's a little off, if it's like, nah, the Tor Pro is going to win by three or four or five holes every time, then it's like, it doesn't really work. Or if it's the other way around, or it's like, yeah, four man scramble is just a little bit too formidable. Like, they're going to win by four or five holes every time.

No. But it was like, you're to make a put on 18. We were playing like the same golf he was playing, basically. Like, it just took four of us to do it. It was incredible. And like, yeah, and it took a put on 18. otherwise he would have had two putts to have and tie the match. And it's like it's just, it's incredible that it came down, that it was that close.

And it was fun. It was just fun to be out there. It was fun. Go back to May 18. And it's the first time we said, we're going to play Kisner next Tuesday. You look at those replies in that tweet. Well, they're not positive. We should.

It's brutal. I was retweeting them and liking them last night. Yeah, I would say you were doing old takes exposed last night. Oh, man. I think four play boys can keep it close, but Kizner wins this on 15 or 16. Easy. Kisner boat races, these rubs. I don't know.

What is that? Is that like an English way of saying like these idiots? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They can't play from the tips. They can't play from the tips. Kis will smoke them even as a scramble.

White T's maybe it's quasi-close. Who the fuck says quasi-close? And then Steve Hamlin says this is the correct take. Well, Steve Hamlin, you're wrong. I did have a couple of people who reached back out and were like, I was wrong. I'm sorry. I know our guy lynx gems was like that. He's like taking my medicine.

I was wrong about you guys. So shout out to those people. But everybody else, fuck you guys. They're just wrong. They are. And I'll say I was a roller coaster of a motion prior to this match. I said we were going to get boat raced.

And I also said we were going to win. But that's the way I do things. I thought we were going to win the whole time. I like to sway both sides so I can always go back to. Oh, yeah, I said that. I just think the timely shots like can't be out. Like your chips were incredible in some moments. incredible.

Frankie's drive, I mean, if he doesn't hit that absolutely just a missile on 16, then what are we even talking about? Like, if I don't need a 6-iron,

Trent doesn't make a pot. Like, there are times when everybody's just pretty much out of it, and then a ball just appears. Like, I hit the best seven iron

of my life on the ninth hole of your life. And it was right over the pin and, you know, then we have that hole or whatever. I think Trent at that point said that you could have dropped that ball on the green.

It wouldn't have found a... Yeah, I didn't give you well there and try to, to place it. The 6 iron one, yeah. That was pelted.

I mean, that was the best ball in my life. On the 16th, I heard my heart. Like when you're playing Tiger Woods video game, it was like, boom, boom, boom. And I just fucking pounded it.

It felt so good, man. Dude, you hit the have, how many times did you out drive him? No, I don't think ever. Not ever? No,

because it was a driver three wood. One time I out drove and he used his three wood. And then the other time, I think it was 16 where I, I hit, probably the best drive I've hit of my life. And was that when I ended up

on the upslope? So, like, Kiz was maybe two or three yards ahead of me, but his ball looked like it funneled down this upslope and my ball stopped on it. So I think, like, he just got a little bit of a runoff. But under his breath, like, he even came out to me. He's like, what are you doing out of here? Well, because then you step up and you uncork a hybrid

right after. It's crazy. My long swings were on. Insane. Everything else would touch. I mean, yikes. The wedge on 18 was just so timely. So anyone that hasn't watched yet, we're going to put out this full video, by the way. We went live for the whole fucking thing. It was a really cool experience to be able to do that. Well done to Jake and Ebug 2 and the freelancers for it running around. 25,000 people watching us walking down 18 at Pioneers, which is insane for a live event that

we didn't even promote we were doing live. We didn't even know we were going to do it live until people started to really like it. 25,000 people want to sit around and watch us play this. We made the call. We made the call five minutes before it's you off. We're like, hey, we should go live for the first hole. That's cool. And they had 13,000 people watching and we were like, uh, wow. Let's just keep going live. And, and for anybody who doesn't know, like, live, you can only go live on Instagram for one hour, right? And then it cuts off.

So we were like, well, you can't go live for the whole thing. But then we're like, well, we'll just keep firing it back up. If people keep joining him, we'll just keep going live. And that's better than do it. Well, they kept fucking joined it. And then we get to 18T and we're like, there are, there are 20,000 people watching. And by the time we got to the green, it was 25,000. And Kiz on his own had over 6,000.

So we had over 30. thousand people watching us live. I knew it was going to pick up steam when like my, like I kept checking my phone and group chats that I was in was like updating all the group chat about how we were doing. And I'm like, well, if these like 20 people that I see right here in this messages are all talking and like watching intently on what we're doing like, oh, kids just hit it into the bunker.

I'm like, then everyone that is a fan of our social media or whatever is watching this. And you had guys like Hank tweeting about it, Fidelberg tweeted about it. Hank says the longest he's ever watched Instagram. Yeah. Yeah, that was the feedback. My stepbrother reached out, and he was like, that was the longest I've ever watched Instagram. But now we had a camera crew there. We had, like, Mike set up.

We're wearing Kiz's face for all the reactions. So, like, that video is going to be phenomenal because you're going to see parts of it that you couldn't see on the live. We just had eBog running out with a phone. Like, now we're going to have mics. We're going to have these six slow-mo cams. I saw the camera people are going crazy, which kids also complained about that, like, sometimes the camera people were running around his back swing. But it's like, kids, you play in front of 10,000 people that are, like, running around, screaming,

and get in the bunker and shit. I know it's not always in your grill like that, but like you're professional. You can handle it. He did say after two. He was like, it's for charity. Like all good.

And he wasn't like complaining. Oh, no, no, no, he was like he was like he was great about it. Yeah. But he was like he made a couple.

I mean, he's kids. He's making a couple little chirps like, like yeah, camera because you're better on tour and like little stuff like that. Which that's fine. That's very fair. But it was,

look, it was cool. It was also like something that I was just fun. Like I was having, Sometimes we're pretty grinding with like the content. We're trying to really get it done. And yeah, we're having funs route at golf course, but it's stressful. And we're like, we really hope that this is enjoyable.

Are we making it entertaining? And it was like, it was fun to be a part of it. It was fun to strategize. It was fun sometimes to change up the order and be like, hey, I can't hit a three wood. So let me try to rip a five iron down there so that we've at least got a short wedge in. And like, me and Trent will try to hit something down there 180. And then you guys can go for it. And then we would do that.

And it's like, all right, guys, rip one. And like we were legitimately a team trying to put all of our pieces together to form a complete puzzle that is one complete golfer. And we were like able to do it enough to win. And it was just like coming up 18 at Pioneers number two, there were like 200 people there. And like yeah, that was crazy. The restaurant, anybody who doesn't know like the restaurant, the deuce is what it's called is this has like this patio balcony that basically surrounds the entire area. area in like a semi circle wraps all the way around the clubhouse and even goes over by the first tea so it's pretty well so there are people like standing in there sitting in there and then a whole

another layer all on the sidewalk that and cart path that kind of surrounds the 18th green so there are people everywhere and we're like walking up with our little push carts four of us like get to all hit these little shots and kis and dewey kis is in his full like tore shirt with his NASCAR shirt he's got all his sponsors doy's walking carrying the bad they're like talking about the shot that he's got to face and it was just like we're doing it like we are in a legitimate competition on the 18th hole up piner's number two with a crowd with people watching online it was just happening it was like how the fuck did we us for idiot like bloggers sales guys like podcasters end up in this situation where now we're going to be expected to hit like big

shots with all these people watch it was a championship finish I mean like they what you describe might as well be grandstands surrounding the green I mean it was crazy because on the 18th it's uphill the whole way. So as you like started to like, you know, get over the crest and see what I will call grandstands, but like the deck of the deuce and everything, you just saw more and more people. And it almost felt like they were multiplying. In real time. You could see more and more of the area. So you'd continue to look and there was just more and more people.

And I mean, yeah, it's crazy to think that, you know, all those people would see a bunch of 825 handicaps or whatever smacked the ball around. but we did and we won. I mean, it was incredible. I had the worst chip in my life on 18. Riggs made the best pots or whatever. That was our game all day. All of Pioneers had a real big belly laugh when I hit that. Because I think people started to be like, oh, he's about to do the thing.

Like that kid who talks about how bad he is at chipping is about to do something where he's going to do the thing he talks about. It was also, Frankie, right before you were about to do the thing, everyone was whispering to the person next to him like, hey, it's Frankie's. Yeah. Like in case you don't follow this podcast with this kid. cannot hit chips to save his life. You can hear like echoing in between like Payne Stewart's arms on his statue where like whispers of like, hey, you're going to want to watch this. And after he did it, he turned to me and he said it's actually crazy how many people are laughing at how bad I can chip.

Bro, the place went crazy. Like you heard it from miles away laughing, belly laughing. Ha ha ha. Look how bad he is. Yeah, I'm looking at the footage right now. It's so bad. Dewey couldn't believe we took that spot too. I was talking to him after because we had one in the bunker.

I don't know who. No, we had one just short left of the green. Mine was short left. And he was like, I can't believe because it was one of the toughest chips you could have. I will say if we could do it over again, we probably wouldn't have taken that. No, it's not a good spot. It didn't know how hard it ran away. The down slope off a tight lot and the whole green runs up.

Right. It's essentially what we had on 16 that we didn't take, right? Like, it's impossible to hold. Yeah. Your chip on 16 where we were like, even if we get on, it's going to roll past on 13? Yeah, 13. 13.

Yeah, it was. It was like, yeah. That once we, once I saw, because Lurches, you had a great chip. And I was like, oh, that's going to be four or five feet. And it was like 15 or 18. I was like, it was probably 20. Yeah, because yours went to like 17 or 18. Right.

And I was like, oh my God. So then at that point, I was like, we're just going to have to make that put. And it was not lost anybody. Like that was pretty much close to the Payne Stewart putt. Like we basically had the pain Stewart putt there to like win the thing. So it was. The whole thing. Couldn't have gone better.

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we're going to continue to kind of run this format back trying to recruit any golfers we can that want to take us on um we're we're fierce i mean we're just we're undefeated we're kind of a i feel like we um we just we just took down like we just emerged in like um whispers of like the boxing circle. Yeah. And we went up against someone who's like pretty fucking legit. And everyone's like, oh, this is their first math. And we just, we just not like, we went 12 rounds and, and won convincingly.

But like, we proved that we could battle and that we could do it. And now everyone's sort of looking at being like, oh, these guys are contenders. Like, they could, they could be a problem on tour here. So it's like, who are we going to take on next? It's also the funny because the spin the other way would have been like, if we had lost, like, we may never win one of these. We just may never win one. But now that we won the first one, people, it's what Riggs is saying.

Like, we're fierce, we're competitors. Bring it on because we're going to win every single one. But it very easily, a couple shots go a couple different ways. And we're just going to be like, come beat up on a tomato can. That is, four golfers each hitting the same shot every single time. But we won, so we're the champions. We are. We're the best.

We're the champs. We're the best for now until someone beats us. We're undefeated. True. We are undefeated. We're 1 in 0. It feels very good. Who wants this action?

Who wants a piece? That's what's next. Yeah. Jones Brothers. What I'm saying? What? Smoke to Jonas Brothers. Yeah, I think that.

Although we say that, but like they're scrambled too. So they'll just. Right. No, I know. They get the four better shots out of that. But we're on top right now. I know.

When we said that yesterday, I'm like, oh yeah, we'll beat. I was thinking like the Jones Brothers individually. Like we'll just fucking kill them. Oh, but then like they're a scramble.

It actually gets real tight. Right. I think Nick and Joe would probably say, I'm not to say Kevin's not, but he says he takes the ball out of the bunker and stuff. but I think Nick is a stick. It'd be very interesting. We're going to make that happen.

Yep. God, imagine we, imagine us playing the Jones. Like, that just YouTube, like, we feel like YouTube was made for that. I mean, now that there's a live component, I mean, there's going to be as many people as there are in the world watching that. God, that's a good point. Imagine one of those guys.

Imagine Nick Joneses 30 million followers going live. Frank just dropped his mic, like a professional podcaster. I bet you that sounded like the world just came crashing down. even though I just dropped it for a second on my laptop. Someone probably just crashed your car or something. It's probably some laws where you have to lower that noise. I doubt it.

I think it's hyperbole. Sorry, Trent. I got to get out of here. I am exhausted. Yeah. I tweeted out how... It's embarrassing, but I'm exhausted. I tweeted out how...

Don't be sad about that. Thank you, Ler. I've been averaging like 500 to a thousand steps for the past week and then just hit a smooth 21,000 yesterday, and the graph is hilarious. It was like, oh, I thought you were at the restaurant. It's like this past week I'd been grinding on stuff for work. And I didn't really go to the restaurant that much. Past weeks before that, I was fine.

But this week in particular was a bad one. It's a great graph. Seeing like nothing, pretty much, and then just through the roof. We played the cradle right. The cradle was fun. But as soon as we got done there, I couldn't. Well, we tried to get a shuttle and then we couldn't. But we walked back.

We walked back. rain and I got into bed and I never got out. Piner's is sick it is it is really is it is great isn't it yeah I got new I'm about to go pick up my new griffs before we hit the road I got islander color grips I got san los blues groups of mine shout out golf pride not a hockey podcast but we've got playoffs yeah we do have playoffs I think it's kind I think we're going to start calling it the COVID cup which I know my my brother islanders make it yeah they made it I mean the rangers are far and away behind the islanders and standing this feels feels feels like we're back. It feels like the world's a little bit more normal right now. I haven't looked a lot

into it yet, but I think they're all playing in different than like one hub city, like each division, whatever. So that should be interesting. When you say, when you say we're going to call it the COVID Cup, who is we? Me and YP. So YP doesn't feel like the right wording. Well, because like it's a, it's a fantasy land playoff format, right? There's 24 teams getting in. Shout out to to those like six teams that didn't get in whatever it is. Like if you're the Buffalo Sabres, I don't want to say anything too dark, but you should do it. Like, I mean, the whole league is being like, woo-hoo! Playoffs!

Like, you know what I'm saying? Woo! Where they're like, they're just hanging out. Like, we're over here in the playoffs. And then the Buffalo Sabres are like, shit. Boy. We're that bad. That was fantastic.

That was well done. We're that bad. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to seeing some hockey. But if the Islanders don't win, it's a cool. COVID Cup because it's a fantasy landing. What if they win the Cup? Then parade down has the turnpike.

Yeah. What if the Rangers win? You should do it? You will never see someone try and flag this as an asterisk. Harder than you. I will. I actually saw a remember that we made about Peter Lewis. I was going to say whatever the equivalent of the Brady 4 going to NFL headquarters

and chaining themselves up, you will do that for that. The Rangers win this Stanley Cup after getting in because of a global pandemic and they let 24 teams into a round Robin best of five first series and they get to play whatever the fuck they want, I will go to Capitol Hill and do something drastic. Like, I won't let it happen. Ever. You think Capitol Hill is a place for it? I feel like that's where the most of the stuff gets done.

That's what things happen, right? We drove past Capitol Hill. Yeah. We drove right past it from here. I saw the Pentagon for the first time in life. Same. Cool looking building. Yeah, it's a Pentagon.

Just you look in there, you're like, things are happening. And it was, you know what it was because we didn't think it was going to happen? Nope. I had no idea of passing through D.C. All of a sudden, you see Washington Monument. You have the Washington Monument. You're like, holy shit, what is that? And you're like, there's a Pentagon.

Holy shit. I got a freedom boner. I know. It really gets your blood going. Has to. Best country in the world. Yep. Best fucking country in the world.

Boom. Excited to get some sports back. Makes you feel it, huh? It does. Boy, is it really raining right now. Boy, you guys are you about to drive back in that. I think it's going to be like this for the next four dates. Yeah.

I think he'll head it back tomorrow. Tomorrow morning. Tomorrow's 50% chance. Oh, that's better. Wow. It's not terrible. Oh. Is there anything golf related going on in the news other than us?

So what I saw, no, it's us. The only thing I did see that's kind of interesting is Rory said his personal hunch is that I don't see how the Ryder Cup is going to happen. So I don't think that it will happen. I think the majority of players would like to see it push back until 2021 so they can play in front of crowds and have the atmosphere that makes the Ryder Cup so special. That to me feels. like a self-fulfilling prophecy because he's a big voice. Like if he's saying that, he's almost saying like, I feel like guys don't want to play and people want there to be a crowd,

so we should probably push it to next year. But the way he says it is he's like, my hunch is that this is going to happen. But he's like the biggest name, one of the biggest names that would play in it. So they're probably like, let's take his advice. Yeah, he's like saying my hunch is because I said this. Because I thought of it. And I put some feelers out to other guys.

And they were like, yeah, that's how we feel. Correct. And I'm going to act like I'm not saying it, but I am saying it. so fucking move it to next year. My hunch is now that I've said I have a hunch that this will be moved to next year because I said I have a lot. That's the feel. It's like it's like, it's like, obviously all sports are trying to figure it out. And there was like no momentum for an NBA season until all these like 10 megastars got onto a phone call.

And we're like, we want to play this season. That's just like Rory being like, we should not play the Ryder Cup. Let's wait until next year. I agree with that. And I hope they do. I hope they move. Yeah. What do you guys think?

Well, there's got to be fans. Right. Okay. So what's your hunch? I hope they move it. You hope they move it. my hunches they move it. I hope they move it.

And I think my hunch is they do do it. They do move it. Can't have a ride a cup with no fans. Just a fact. Yeah, yeah. It does feel like just push it. Let's just wait and everything will obviously be at least a little better a year from now. Right now we're all still pretty like what is going on.

Say that about the NHL too. That is true. That does scare me because like you say it's going to be better next year? It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be no. But theoretically you would hope that would be. It'd be nice if it was. Because things are still...

Things are still... Things are still chaotic, especially in relationship. Way better if it was just better. Tell you what. The craziest part is... Yes, the return. It's going to be wild, like, getting back into the war zone that is New York. Because I'm just going to, like...

I'm going to be, like, on Hefts and Terp, I'm being like, don't you guys want to come into Borrellis? Like, people going down in restaurants in North Carolina. Why can't you guys just come in here? Give us business. They're not allowed. We're doing this podcast in a hotel. Right. You'd get shot if you tried to do that in New York.

Get shot. That's true. Things are just open here. People are happy. It's crazy. Yeah, it is a slap in the face when you return. I remember when I went back last time, I was like, oh, my God. This is just the world up here.

You went in to Armageddon or something. I'll be just reentering that apartment. My brother looked at me like, you're not coming to my house for like a week. I was like, all right. All right. I'll see you next Tuesday. Wow. Good luck.

Thank you. I'll be here. Yeah. So, um. Yeah, what's your, what's your deal? Open-ended. Well, everything you guys just described is my deal. I want to go back to New York when I don't have to.

So you will continue to live down here. Correct. For the foreseeable. Correct. There is no end date and future for you. Nope. Okay. I get asked every day when you leave it.

I don't know. I don't know when I'm leaving. That's a true answer. That's just an honest answer. I don't know. When do you think our office will be open again? And that is as open and ended as it gets? I don't think my office will be open this year.

Man. Which is just cray-cray. Love to hear you using that terminology Yeah, that's nice Cray Cray, yeah Cray people out there Listen, I was like What the hell just happened?

Said Cray, Cray, it is though Maybe you think about it? If you're going to use it, use it right and you did Right, that's, that's... This shit is Cray, cray Cray. That's what I'm talking about. Your office, not being open for a year is Cray, cray. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah. It is. I blocked out what he said or else I think I would have been nauseous for this trip We're about to take. Who said Cray Cray the first time? Not me. In this room, it was you. In general, I don't know.

Just now, it was, yeah, no. In terms of the, everyone, I don't know. Right. Okay. Someone much younger than you. You call me a pervert? No. Not at all.

I'm just calling you old. Okay. You guys, what you're talking about, um, boners and like... I knew this comment was coming out of the clouds. You were on your phone. I was talking about, it's coming from the clouds and driving through, um, Washington, D.C. Yeah. Yeah.

You know the 21 gun salute? Yeah. Do you know why they call it that? No. Because 1776 adds up to 21, 1776. Wow. That's a Frankie fact. How about that fucking shit?

Damn. Whoa. Someone hit me up last night. That can't be what it is. Someone hit me up last night and they go, congrats on the match. Fun fact. The 21 gun salute is 21 because 1-7-76 adds up to 21. And I said, and I wrote back.

That's up there at the top for you. I wrote back, interesting. He said, heard it from a vet. Great job. I wrote, thanks. I got to put a DM Yeah How many times

Did you mentally check that math? Oh, to this point I still haven't checked it out But it works Eight and 13 Yep I

Yeah For some reason that just doesn't sound right But if it's right That's one of the cooler ones you've had For sure All right That is interesting How do you

When you do that How did you add the numbers together I added the first two In the last two Mine went Two seven six one Oh, yeah. Our brains are different.

That's wild. Yeah. I went 276.1 too. 21 got salute. Yeah. From the gallery. It's time to talk from the gallery. We got a couple really good ones that I've had waiting for a while.

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and he kind of goes on I did a few statistics on this that I looked up okay a six to like a seven is um is in the top 17 percent so I would be around I'm like a I'm a seven right now I'm 7.0 I would be around like

the 10 million 200,000th ranked golfer in the world. Then you kind of answered it for me because we're pretty similar these days. So yours similar. I looked up, I wasn't sure what Frankie's in.

I went with like a 10. And Frankie would be the 22 millionth ranked player in the world. Sounds about right. What do you got for me? Did you do that one? It feels like it feels like you didn't. You know when the calculator starts giving you letters

because there's too many numbers where it's like E7. It's like. Yeah. You know, because it's like way too many zeros. That's what you're at right now. Okay. I guessed you were 25.

Fair. Handicap. And that would be, you'd be the 55th millionth ranked player. Damn out of 60 million? Well, that's beating 5 million. That's deep. You can go up to 5 million people. He's better than that.

Like, you play, you're a scrambling. You were smoking drives. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what it all adds up to. At least 35th in the world. You know who the worst people in the world are? What?

Aside from terrorists. and all the bad people that kill people. Yeah, I agree. Good disclaimer. Handicap police. This is a new form of Twitter, Mongols, if that's even a word. Mongols, that's a word I'm going to use

because it's just a disgusting, mouthful of a fucking despicable human being. Yeah. Everything we do now, we're getting the handicapped police up our asshole. It's crazy. I can't do anything. You think I'm lying about my handicap?

I just plug in the numbers. I don't know what else to tell you. I want to be a higher handicap, so I get more strokes. It's also super frustrating because like I don't want to be alone I know but like you say whatever I'm this on that It's like that means that you can spread from like very good to very awful And on any given day that could show up and then people see you that one day and there's like no way you're at eight

It's like shut up I am so my We did the last show but yes Briggs has a good answer to this I'm a dealing with this for a long time Yeah he's weathered for a long time And my reaction is sometimes when I just get fed up I've just replied and said okay what do you think I am so they'll be like there's no way you're a seven-handic me what do you think I am and then a lot of times the people are like you're like a

12 I go fine I'll play as a 12 you play as your handicapped we'll play 100% handicaps I'll play it for five grand yeah and let's do it and I will and if that's what you genuinely they're like well you're probably more like a nine or something I'm like okay well now like if that's really what you think then we'll just play as that like what's the problem if that's what you think I am. And nobody ever takes it because they're a bunch of cowards. And they know that they're just throwing fucking bullshit online. And the issue is that a lot of people think that like your handicap is your average score. That's not correct. Your handicap is your potential. Correct. Your handicap is I believe statistically a number that you shoot one or six to eight rounds. Every

six to eight rounds you shoot that number over par. And the rest of the time you play worse. So like that's just what the fucking handicap is. So if you're an eight handicapped, you shoot 80 or better like one out of six or seven or eight rounds and the rest of the time you know you're shooting a lot of 82s 83s that one good round might be a 77 you add them all up and you're an eight handicapped that's just what it is so that's like like you're saying frankie so are you telling me mr negative person online that's the handicat police that I'm just lying all the time it's that what you're telling me and also why would I be lying in that way why would I be going down you just lose money that way you lose money and I'm we're constantly playing in matches where our handicap gets us strokes and helps us win these matches for lots of money that we play for. When I'm playing with like the Islanders or whatever and we're playing with these scratle these handicaps, I need every stroke I can get. You think I'm like, oh yeah, I'm a six because I want to lose? What are you insane? Go look it up.

The numbers right here. It's just telling me I'm a 9.0 right now. The USGA told me that's my number. Go slap them in the face. You got a problem? Go talk to the USDA. Like, the numbers are all my game. 85 at Rockville, Links, 88 at Rockville Links, 88 at Rockville Links, 85.

This is what you can't do. You can't entertain these people by reading your scores. But then there's a 79 Cherry Valley asked Brock Nelson about that number. You know what I'm saying? He'll tell you a shot of 79. Hardworking man who loves the game. Oh, yeah. He knows I shot of 79 that day.

That what it was? Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? I played well. I don't know. I just can't, you know, I tweet about pizza. I tweet, oh, I'm going to have an ice cream Sunday. I'm going to put some, I'm going to put some,

I'm going to put some. syrup in my belly button and just go to sleep and they're like but you're not a nine handicap what the fuck are you talking about over here i'm gonna put some syrup in my belly button i'm gonna go asleep what a relaxing time that is let it seep in you know overnight just a little leftover little kid maybe i'll put it on the finger yeah maybe i'll put a hershey's kiss there let it melt over the hole and upside down hershey kiss fill my bell button and let it melt over we're at the carolina hotel right now and last night some sit up some flat night That chocolate laid out.

Last night we got back and we were talking about getting an ice cream Sunday. And I know Trent State, Trent didn't come to dinner. So I knew he was home with the ice cream Sunday before us. And I said, Trent, talk to me about that ice cream Sunday right now. And he goes, I fucking, I fucking rummaged through there. I was gnawn at that thing. And I said, you know, I'm going to pick up the fucking room service. And I'm going to call up.

And I said, talk to me about that ice cream Sunday you got down there to the guy. And he goes, sir, like, it's incredible. He says that to me. He goes, it's incredible. I said, what flavors you got you working with? He goes, we have vanilla, chocolate, we got strawberry, and we got this caramel swirl. And I said, stop right there. I can just get that scent to my room.

He goes, in 10 minutes. I said, book me. Didn't you have to give him my number. Ten minutes later, there's a man outside waiting for me with my fucking caramel swirl brownie sunday, and I destroyed it. I thought about eating it on the toilet, just so I didn't have to get up afterwards. You know, it's all just one place. Oh, yeah.

You know? I don't know. Yeah. I would need it in a bathroom. Yeah. What else he got? Yeah. What else do you book last night?

I just, and we talk a little about this, too, just the thought of room service, just bringing up Sundays for our wing of the hotel. Just like these guys, these guys had to have talked because they all, all of them are now ordering chocolate brownies. It was 10 o'clock at night and room 331,

332 and 333, all individually ordered. huge brownie sundays i said room service doesn't know what just hit them the 300's wing just fucking put us under like we're they're getting fucking everyone's running around getting ice cream like what's going on up there i told you guys documentaries have been made about less that was a great text that was an alt-timer what the hell are we talking about i don't know ice cream sunda is somehow oh yeah her she kisses in our belly buttons from the gallery yeah from the gallery oh yeah so yeah i'm bottom of the barrel

you guys are up there you guys are beating that's how the handicapped talk started though because like you know everyone's the 10 million 15 million like we're all we're all suck well the thing about is everybody likes to talk about like that one good shot so like if you don't hit that one good shot then like you're not that handicap it's like no shut it's just we like when you put numbers in that perspective that like you could be a six or seven and you can be the 10 millionth best golfer in the world it just means like what are we arguing about here we all aren't anywhere close to what we're supposed to be to 36 for like yeah like you go watch Kevin Kisner play the game of golf and then talk to me about my handicapped.

Like, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. I'm an amateur. It doesn't matter. We're all an A. All right? Yeah. Yeah.

We're all above that. He played a different sport yesterday and we still be in. Yeah, I know we've talked about it. God, he's good. It's just, it's not even like the same thing.

And if you had someone go out there yesterday while we were all warming up on the range and have them close their eyes, they would be able to identify him in a millisecond. Yeah. because it's just that much different than everything else. And he was coming up to us. Like he would be like, oh, you want me to hit this shot? You want me to hit that shot?

And he would just do it over and over again. At one point, you guys had walked over. You were still finishing. And I stood behind him. He goes, Frankie, you want to see me hit a cut on this pole? And I said, sure. And he did it, and it bounced right, like, to the left of the pole. Perfect.

Right. Right to that pole. Because he wants to see me go dead at it and just fucking nailed it. It was crazy. Yeah. I mean, I walked over to the range and I just like, because he said something to me about spine angle or whatever. and I was like, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Yeah. Like, I don't even know. It'd be like a doctor talking to just a human, but talking to doctor terms. I just don't know what the hell language you just spoke to me. But I just walked over to Dewey and here and I was like, what are you guys even working on? Like, what are you trying to accomplish with this rain session? Because it's interesting because it's something, like, we just walk up to a bomb, be like, I think I'll just try to hit this. Hope it gets in the air.

Right. And like. I know that's how a lot of people feel. It'll move different ways, but I hope it's close. It also makes me think that the difference between like the top golfers. 36 in the world number one is just razor thin. Oh, razor thin.

Look at the stats, how can somebody be that much better than Kevin Kisner? I know. I was thinking that, too. I was like, you can't really be better than this. Like he's, like maybe just then watch Roar and Macroy hit a gullible.

A couple more natural gifts like Roy. Like he's just a monster off the tea. Crazy. But Kevin Kisner, he's just so exact. He is like he hits it. He hits it exactly where he wants to hit. Yes.

Exactly. Dude, like to speak about his putting talents, we're on the practice green, putting around, and it's lightning fast. We get to the first tee. First green, rather. He has a 20, 25 footer for Bertie. He leaves it like seven feet short.

He ends up canning the seven footer for par, but he walks off, and he's like, man, these greens are three feet slower than what they were on the practice green. And then not once after that was he really like, did he miss a put by speed? Yeah. Which is crazy that he noticed. the three foot difference in his first putt,

and then he was just on the hole every time, which is three feet. I can't notice a cliff. Like, it doesn't matter. It's crazy that he could do that. His chipping was great. Like on the second hole, the fourth hole,

he just got up and down, chipped it to pretty much gimmey range, even though we never gave him any of the putts. His lag putting, he had a few where he just lagged it really, really tight when we were in for bars. So, like, he just played a clean round. he shot 70 which is if you're playing the U.S. Open,

actual U.S. Open, that's even par. If you're playing the course, like if the resort guest plays the course from, you know, 6,200 yards, it's par 72. So it's like, really, he shot 200. They just do that to, like, protect Par and the U.S. Open and all that. He really shot two under from fucking 7,600 yards at one of the hardest golf courses in the world. And he hasn't been playing golf in any competitive environment whatsoever.

He had fucking cameraman running all over. and so it was like it was amazing in fact that he played as well as he did we played as well as we did it was amazing explain green speeds to me like I'm five years old okay um Riggs do you want to take this one difference between a 12 and a 13

it's running out of 12 so a stint meter I might get this wrong is if it's basically like a triangular shape and you drop it I think it's a foot high and it rolls out maybe like a three foot diameter four foot but basically you drop a ball on there it rolls out and then based on when it touches the green, it's how many feet it rolls out.

And so it would be like it runs out 11 feet, 12 feet, 13 feet. It's a standard speed coming off this little contraption. Right. So you put all time. There's like a contraption that's like a foot high or something like that. And basically it rolls like down the train tracks of this little thing. Yeah, I think I've seen it. Okay.

Yeah. So as soon as it hits the green on a level put, it would roll out nine feet, 10 feet, 11 feet, 12 feet or whatever. And then it'd be rolling at a 12, 12 and a half, etc. Gotcha. So Kiz noticed that it was like a three foot difference on the first put. Because he left that thing like seven feet short because the practice screen was lightning. And then not once after that did he leave a pot short, which is crazy. If you think about it around like, yeah, you leave one seven feet.

You blow up by seven feet. I think that's hard. I hit it too hard or too short, not because the green speed. Right. And then you get into grain. You get into whatever the hell else is out there. and then you get these scientists like doing it. I've always known that it had to do with the amount of feet that it would go.

I just didn't know that it was based off of, like, I've seen that contraption. I just didn't know exactly how they did it. I didn't know if it was based off of like a constant speed that it would roll out. Because then I was like, how the hell do you decipher it which one's rolling than another, which one's rolling fast than another one? Like his put could be a different speed every time. Like, how would he know? It would have to come from like a constant drop off a thing.

Right. Constant, exactly. It would have to, the speed up front would have to. to be constant in order to measure the greens speed of friction. Boy, there's a lot going on in this game that I don't even fucking know about. Well, you can't. No. Because then you, for us, you just get confused by what it is. Imagine thinking you know the difference in a putt because it's a 12 or an 11.

Imagine caring about that. That's a better point. It's like, who gives a shit? What if someone gave you all this information and was like, all right, now do something with it? I would shut down. Right. I'd be like, I can't play because this is too much for me to handle. I'm a brain's in your face.

I'm a field guy. I'm literally just trying to make contact. It's poana grass of grains in your face and you're putting a 12 on a 12. It's like, dude, like, I'm trying to get the ball to the hole. Dude, that would be a great, like, Q&A, like, true false or, like, just a bunch of line items. All right. Poana grass, stints at 11. You got a 12-and-a-half-foot put that's going up a foot.

How, like, what's, like, the, what's constant you at? Like, you know, what's the initial you have to give it. No, because I don't think like anybody thinks like that. No, I know, but, like. Bryson does. right bryson does but like i don't think it's a feel game you know you gotta like feel you can't be doing that kind of shit you just in the information that you think is justin thomas thinking about is it the stimp or the stint i don't know stimp stint is justin thomas thinking about the

stimp on the 12th hole of a pgisore event when he's standing over a green it's just feel they get them you know they get the feel in the morning it's why they do so much putting on the practice screens they get all that feel and they know and then when they get out on the golf course they're you know they've either got it they don't tiger tiger tiger tauts talks about it all the time. The greens are a little slower out. He says that shit all the time. I couldn't adjust my fuel like he said.

Because they probably put at that level that that machine comes out. Like they're so constant. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. They roll the ball like such a constant. So consistently. Like a consistent, they're hitting the ball at such a consistent speed that it's based off,

like they know the difference between green speed. Right, that they can continually hit. Like if they hit the same pace and you put them on different greens, it would roll out at 10. foot, 11 foot, et cetera. I think the only people that care about this are people that are tournament leads, you know, because like at Chinicock, they said they lost the greens

because they're just too damn fast. You know what I did yesterday because we're so up close with a PGA pro. I mean, we're playing against him, we're beating him. I was looking at so many things that he does, like trying to envision myself doing him. The way he stands over a put, like the things he looks at, he was looking at the ball and he would hover and he'd like look at the front and the back

of the ball and then he'd like peek at the hole, then he'd look back. I'm like trying to think of myself, like what is he thinking right there. And like, what are you thinking about when he takes the club back and he makes contact with the ball? He was like his head was so perfectly straight when he took the club back. It was so weird. Dude, he also was doing, I was talking with Thomas about this. He was doing, like, when we had short chip shots and wedge shots into the greens, he would go up and stand on the side of the green because he wanted to see how the ball was going to react on the green, which

was anywhere similar to like a line he was playing because he was gaining and taking that. I mentioned on the fourth hole. Remember, he was just short. He roped one in there. It was just short. He had a chip. And we had like an 80 yard wedge shot. And he walked all the way up there and made sure he was up there before we hit one and watched all four of ours.

Because he wanted to see how it broke and how the balls reacted on the green. And I said that to Thomas. I go, because you guys, somebody mentioned like, that's like Tiger at fucking Augusta when those guys hit in the water. And he's like watching. And I said to Thomas was like, I think is he like gaining information of Thomas. He's like, oh, yeah. He's up there like watching how all the balls react. Which is probably what he does during.

practice round so he was trying to like probably modify that into our round because he didn't have a chance to walk the golf court right right they probably do that all day during the practice of how the how does the ball react and he's doing it based off our four shot which sucks for him not one only one person was hit the three half time not a ton of information him like jesus did you want to talk about you becoming a visor guy in your outfit at all about how you've just become a new person with your outfits you yesterday was a stunner yeah um you know footjoy hooked it up with some really nice outfits we we got into our hotel room never thought i'd become a visor guy until i saw it it was just one of those things you know you're walking down the mall welcome you're walking through the mall and you see

something in the glass you're like hmm should i spoil myself should i get a little naughty and you know you buy that thing you go back you get dressed and you like look in the mirror that's what i did the night before i got back from dinner i uh you know i put on my outfits i had a hat on i had a white hat on I had a rope hat on. Then I'm like, wow, this visor's staring me in the fucking eyes right now. Never thought I'd be a visor guy. I put it on. I felt like a different person.

The hair was flowing. I got the mustache now. Some people are saying I look like a trust fund baby that was angry at his dad. Another person said I was like my dad's a lawyer. What are you going to do about it? Other people said I look like Joe Dirt. So there was a huge variation. Bubba Watson, huge variations and huge discrepancy amongst the fans on what my look was.

but you know what it's my look my body my choice that's what I like to say about that so I think I'm gonna roll with it I bought a pine hairs visor today did you black one yeah I think I'm gonna wear that with a white shirt and black pants and I'm gonna fucking stun people to death I love it you know it's a stunning

I'm psyched you're on the visor side it's a better look yeah for people with hair no disrespect to either of the others in this room without it visor's a good look I think it depends on the head yeah like you can no longer a rock a visor. No, I'm saying I could never rock a size of the head. Size of the head.

I'm saying a big old head. Correct. Like your head looks so dumb and normal hats that you have to wear a lot. Right, because sometimes the way I can see if somebody else has a huge dome is if I put on a hat, how high the side of the hat is above the ears. Like if I pull a hat down, no matter how many buttons I have clipped on the back, it just, it will be like a good three quarters of an inch above my ear. And that's when you know you can't wear a hat. Right. Because it's not deep fitting.

Like they say one size fits all, that's not true. It needs to be a deep fitting hat in order to get on my head. On the rundown, Big Cat and KFC asked Dave what he thought of my new look was. He hadn't even seen it. And then they showed it to him live. And KFC and Big Cat said I look like I'm going through something with the mustache and the look. But Dave said he thought it looked better. Dave said he doesn't look like a 12-year-old boy anymore.

That's a positive. That's a huge positive. Yeah. Because, I mean, I wore a shirt. once with polka dots on it and I was reprimanded. So my look to him is very important. And you wore that again when we talked to Jones. I talked to Jones brothers, yeah.

But, you know, I take his take on my look very seriously. Very seriously. Thank you look great. I appreciate it. I'm going to switch it up, you know. I'm going to switch it up from time of time. The next time we do this match, I may wear the Bubba hat. You don't know.

Or the, what were you saying? The Bryson hat. I'm sorry, the Bryson hat. You just switch it up every time. Yeah. Keep them guessing. I'll keep you on your toes. Hmm.

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You went right, you actually used the mic to like stop your yawn. I was just thinking about all that walking yesterday how much I could have used to drink the whole on. That was a disrespectful yon. That was crazy. I was so loud.

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from the gallery, asks, is there a stigma tied to using a push cart while walking 18 holes? Am I a hard o for even asking this question? I'm asking for a friend who's considering buying one. I imagine that's him.

push cart I didn't I never really used a push car I didn't really care for people use the push cart but I just I don't know I didn't love the look I've always liked to have my bag with me um when I got down here I've been playing so much yeah that I was like I can't just carry my bag every day I'm gonna die I'm too old now I'm 33 amount of shape I'm gonna die so I've been using a push cart every time I play golf for the last two months we all took them yesterday it's a no brayer yeah I think we might have talked about this in a very very very early episode of Foreplay. And my opinion could have been totally different then. I don't think that it was, but I don't really remember. Push cards, like you said, no-brainer. It's so much better. I get wanting to carry it that feels like more natural. Like, I'm a golfer.

Like, I got my bag. It's on my back. I'm carrying it. But for just like you're just going out there, you're playing a normal round, just put it on a push card. You don't have to worry about it. I think it's great. I'm a huge fan.

It just makes it easier. Yes. Like if it's about the walk, it's not about straining yourself by humping a bag, as you know, some people say around the course. Like just keep it easy, put it on a cart, push it around, and, you know, enjoy the round and soften up the back. What are you trying to prove is my point? With anything.

Yeah. It's like we're just— I just want to be more comfortable. I'm a weak, frail body that really can't afford to carry my bag around a golf course of 70, 600 yards. And if walking the course with a cart makes me feel better and makes me a little bit more agile, and like you said, I may have had a different take about this two years ago or a year ago. I don't remember. All I know is right now it feels right. I walked that course yesterday.

I needed it. I think Riggs had a different take because last year at this time or whenever we did that Wisconsin trip, so in July. July last year. Yeah. I called our team the push cart mafia because we were all getting push carts. And Riggs thought it was a terrible look, which to some degree I agreed with them. But it is just, it's a better experience pushing or it's a better experience not carrying. Whether that's a caddy or a push cart, it's a better experience.

Like what do we talk? Like the experience of carrying your bag? from ball from like the shot to the next shot i don't know what is that experience it's just like a burden right like what's the experience like oh this is awesome like work it's work yes it's harder that's the worst part of the round foot weights walking it like you're not swinging you're not putting you're just like walking to your ball some people say the best part of golf is the walk with a bag on your shoulders the point is

is you just who cares the worst part I mean for yourself personally do whatever you want but for anybody to look at anybody else to be like don't use that or why are you using that push cart that's that's that walk on a go walk on a fucking like track at your local high school if you want to get an exercise I will say if you're going to buy a bag some have brakes up by the handle

which is very nice look for those oh you're going to buy a push card yes if you're going to buy one Don't get a break that's like down by the wheel because those are tougher to hit. Yeah. And you forget like me yesterday when my bag went flying into a fucking bunker at Piner's number two. Did we get that on camera? Yeah. In front of the whole gallery and passionately and the whole thing.

I caught it though. Right on 17, right? Yep. Caught it right at the end. It was like it fell, but you caught it before everything fell out of it, which was. I had to go running. And I was, I was. Briggs did a thing where he's like your part, your cart's going.

Yeah. You couldn't just go and get it. No, I was crazy. Like, I was the closest one to it. And it was, and I literally looked to you and said, your cart's going in the bunker. Oh. I don't remember that part. I was like, okay.

Ran. I sprinted. Damn. Yeah. We got it. At that moment. I genuinely think I may have done like half a stop and it just went. Those things are hard.

Like you were saying, the brakes. Yeah, the break by the wheel is tough to get to. You kind of get to. You kind of get to. Exactly. Yeah, it's weird. So look for a handbrake up by the top handle. Good advice.

I just did a couple of calculations. I think it's better if this goes into the bunker than if I'd rush to stop. How about on five? Kisner hit a shot that the ball was trickling towards our golf bags. And if it caught a ridge, it was going to potentially hit our golf bikes. So then Riggs and I went sprinting over there and moved our push cart. So it didn't hit us. Thomas almost called a penalty on you guys for that.

Well, our guy? Yeah. If it didn't hit him. Or if it did hit him. Apparently you can't move something while the ball's moving. You guys, like you can't move. So if you put your clubs down, your buddy hits it, you technically can't move those clubs? Thomas said under his breath that may have been an illegal move.

What? No, I'd be surprised because I know it is you can be penalized if a ball hits your bag or some of your equipment, you get penalized. So maybe that's what he meant like they needed to do that. That's why I did it. You guys took off. Took off. I think one of them was my bag, and at that point I just didn't have it in me. Well, who thought that he was, the ball was in end up there? Nobody.

Right. It's Kevin Kisner. Right. I had no foresight on that. But I just didn't have that in me. If I had done that, I'd have been out for the rest of the day. It's a hard green. It would have been too much movement for me.

Last one. Cam says a little story. This is a, this was fascinating to read. You read a long one? It's not long. It was short enough. It was just the right length. Okay.

and it intrigued me. Cam says he's playing nine holes by himself. The guy is also playing by himself right behind him, on his tail the whole nine. So every time this guy behind him is hitting into the greens as Cam is walking off the green. On the 13th hole, which is a bar three, the guy behind hits a great shot.

It hits the flag stick and stops a foot from the pin. Cam obviously sees this, carries on with his round. After he finishes his 18, he goes into the clubhouse and the bar, he eventually sees the other guys in there. And here's the guy telling the story to all his buddies, about how he got his first hole and one today on the 13th hole. He said, snitches get stitches, and since I was the only one who saw it, and I'm just a 21-year-old non-member, I didn't say anything.

Am I wrong for not saying anything? The liar also got a plaque from the club. What should I have done? No, he's in the right by not like telling on the guy, but like, it's just you lose all respect for the guy. I think I would say something. We know. I mean, you would have to tell him. taking a picture, documented it,

and then maybe mailed in it to this hole in one. Tard and feathered him. You're telling me you hear this guy celebrating about a whole one, you saw it, and you're not going to say anything? I can't tell you something I'd care about less than that guy going off. I can't go correct the liar. The one thing is if he pisses me off with how much he's like,

sometimes people get out of my skin where I'm like, all right, well, now you're being an asshole. Like, if he's really yapping it up over there, I'll be like, let's, let me get involved here.

Sometimes I do do that. Let me get involved here. Like, well, you didn't, like, you didn't do that. Or maybe, maybe you didn't get a whole one. Maybe as he's doing it, you sort of, you just start staring at him. And then he sees you and he just like tamps it down a little bit. You're like, oh, shit. That guy was out there.

Because at that point, he's affecting others. You know, what do you mean? They're making plaques for him. People are cheering them on. It's a little bit different. I agree. The plaque piss me off. Like, there's a nice old man being like, way to go, son.

Here's a plaque for your whole one. He's like, thanks, old bag. Like, I just dominated. this golf course. You got the engraving wrong on my name, you old bag. Right. And he's like, oh, and he like scurry's bag. Like, let me crave it on the one for you.

This particular scenario, I feel bad. Maybe I'd like, I don't know what I would. I don't know. I just don't want to like get involved with that and be like, I don't like to get. Actually, by the way, excuse me. He didn't have one. That's like, what the fuck?

What if he says prove it? Then I'm like, I shouldn't have got involved. Well, then it's like, dude, I saw you. But I would never get myself involved. But if he said prove it, I'd be like, dude, I saw your ball hit pin and then roll to a foot. But like you can't prove the whole in one either. I just,

I would never stand up and say this. But now you've got yourself in a situation that's horrible. So I would just look at him, hear what he said. I would. And a mental check would go off. It would be like, that guy sucks. I hope I'd never have to interrupt 100%.

I would do what Michael Scott did when he wanted to tell Andy Bernard that Angela was cheating on him with Dwight. I would say it as I'm leaving or like behind the window. I would say it behind the window. Like as he's celebrating it, I'd be outside the club. He didn't get a hole in one. I watched him.

and I just get in my car and leave. I went to a foot. I watched him. He's a liar. That guy's a liar in there. I'm leaving. See you later. That's what I would do.

Because he's affecting too many people. I mean, he's just a loser. Like, I would just let him be, and that's just, you know. That's a crazy move. How do you think you're not going to get,

like, yeah. Crazy move. Why would you do that? So in the, he was telling his buddies in the clubhouse. So this guy was just playing as a single? Yeah.

Wild. I mean. Because of COVID. There's no denying that it's a crazy move and a disingenuous one. But I don't know if I still don't think I would just be like basically the exact situation that Lurch just laid out where then it becomes like a he said, she said. It's just like, I'm just going to go home. I'm going home.

I don't want to deal with this. Riggs, and you're 100% just standing up and saying, no, you didn't. I think if you're in the bar and you hear all of this going out, like a whole one, it's like the whole bar knows about it, right? Like everybody's. Would you allow him to buy you a drink first? They're making a place. black and everything and you're you're just sitting there actually you're sitting there listening to

this story and you're like I just think I'd be like I saw the fucking shot like I saw the shot it just no I just didn't go in the hole I don't maybe you tell him personally yeah maybe something like I want you to know that would be a better time and place for it I saw that knock a win but whatever I don't care I'm not going to make a big deal here like you bring him to the bathroom you're like check the stalls and be like hey I like I know you in public with this already but like Just so you know, I saw it roll to a foot. That's it. Because who were we to, like, impede on someone else's life?

That's how he wants to live his life. Right. Just not for me, but do your thing. Right. Don't worry about what I'm doing over here. No, don't care. This is my life. I want to say I got a hole in one.

I got a hole in one. Could you imagine telling him that in private? Because then he always knows that, like, his one of his lies is out. Right. You know, at that time in his life, he must have hundreds of thousands of lies across his life. I bet if you told him, I bet he doesn't care. He's got so many balls in the air. He's like, oh, whatever.

He can't keep him up. Yeah, bro, I got so much shit going on over here that's the last thing I'm going to worry about. If you think that you knowing about my one lie about the whole one one, you don't know what's going on in my head. Right. I got a million balls in the air. All right. I got a fake line. I don't know how I'm at this golf course right now.

He's like probably not his real name. He's probably got a fake identity. He just, you tell him that he just goes, whatever. Go tell those people. I don't give a fuck. And it's like, oh, shit. He's going to look at an experienced liar. Dead in the eye back, bro.

At some point, this is all coming crashing down. Just a thousand yards there. He's like, I want to get caught. He's like, I want you to go out there right now and tell people. Tell him. Tell him. Tell him. That's a lurch.

That's a great point. A guy who lies about something like that has so many lies out there that doesn't hurt him. Whatever. Doesn't care. Yeah, go tell him. Get your boner. Do it. Do it.

I'm going to watch you do it. all right boys uh you guys uh you guys got to drive back yep yeah so you got drive back about not airs i got a little drive safe boys Dave here so I got to get going on that drive safely it's a little um you know inclement weather out there so be safe be smart great win everyone way to go can't wait to do it again to us uh we'll be back on Tuesday hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard