Fore Play - We Did It

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Golf broadcast? Check. Against all odds, including our own expectations, we pulled off producing a full Korn Ferry Tour broadcast. We’re joined by Francis Ellis and champion Trace Crowe to debrief over the dramatic finish, the funny moments, and the completely new experience of the crew doing television.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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I want to say this up top. I did not think it was going to work. What do you think was going to happen? I would see this on our calendar and I would get very nervous. Everything else is our own world, right? Yeah. We're filming videos. We're doing podcasts, but that's just for us.

And we kind of know that world. We know what to do. I would just see this on our calendar and I would be like, I don't know if I am personally ready for that. I know the production side of it's going to be great. All biz is great. Brand Packer, I'm sure we're going to talk about it is great. But I was just nervous for us as a whole because we've shit on broadcast before.

You talked a lot of shit. And then we're the ones doing it. You want to do it the right way. I was just very nervous, but I am pleasantly. I'm happy that I was wrong. I think it was a big week for, wow, those guys are actually like adults. You know what I mean? I think people thought that we were going to come into this and make it into like a total clown show.

Yeah. Well, I also would say it was a big week for somehow, some way. kind of proving, even though I didn't know that we thought we could prove, that doing what we do translates to a broadcast, where there are a couple moments in the week that stick out for me before we even started

the broadcast, which was that like, I sent a long email to Justin Ray, the stats guy on Monday or Tuesday, trying to get all kinds of like information so that I could, like, in my brain I was going to call it like a golf guy kind of calls it. And then when we were with Kirk and the crew on Wednesday and we had our meeting, we kind of switched Kirk and

Francis. And Kirk was basically like, Obviously, we were just going to go up there and like, fuck around with golf on there. We're not going to try to be some shitty broadcast. And that kind of clicked them ahead of like, oh, yeah, like, we're not going to try to be a shittier version of an actual golf broadcast. We're going to do what we do. And there's going to be golf going on. And I think it'll kind of work. And I thought it absolutely fucking worked.

We kind of did our thing. I thought it was funny. I thought we did justice to the actual golf. I thought today, Sunday, especially, like, the golf took care of itself. It was intense. It was great. I thought it went great. Yeah, it was an extreme success, if you asked me.

I mean, I was super nervous going into it as well. I thought it was a leap that we didn't need to take. Obviously, there's a lot on the lines. It's LPJ. It's Corn Ferry Tour. It was also PGA Tour, and it's like a lot of eyes on us, a lot of executives. We're diving deep into a very serious golf world, which we are not very serious golf people. I was nervous about it.

And then as we were on air for that first hour on Thursday, I'm like, man, this is going to work. And boy, did it work. Thursday was smooth. Friday was better. Saturday was incredible. And Sunday couldn't have been better. Sunday legitimately. Today, that final broadcast could not have been better from beginning to end.

It was funny. It was informative. It was our own voice. The golf went to two playoff holes. There were incredible shots being hit. We were all not stepping on each other. And we learned how to speak and went not to speak. It was just, I was getting text messages from my friends that just couldn't stop watching it.

And they're like, if you asked me a year ago, if I watched a full corn fairy tour, event from Thursday or Sunday, I would have said you're absolutely the most insane person on the planet, but I couldn't miss shot. What was your impression, Francis, of kind of stepping into this world? I was, I think the most surprising thing to me was how appreciative the players were. I was really expecting, given how mentally taxing and how much focus golf requires, that they would want distance, that they wouldn't want to be swept up or too kind of approached and fucked around with. But I almost had the impression that there were guys out there disappointed.

We weren't fucking with them more, if anything. I had guys that kept wanting to come talk to me. They were initiating conversations. They kept saying how appreciative they were, that we were, you know, shining a light on the corned fairy tour. You certainly get the impression these guys don't live with, like, it's a grind. Their hotels suck. Their food sucks.

They don't get a lot of shine. and yet they're almost just as good as the PGA tour guys. They're right there. So I think for them to have some cameras and some guys with microphones was as exciting for them as maybe it was for us. Yeah, I thought I noticed that during the trophy ceremony, like even the vice president of NV5 and the main, the head honcho at Old National Bank.

Like they came over. I'm like, thank you guys so much for doing this. Like, Trace and his caddy afterwards. We're like, thank you so much to our sports. Like, this was so much fun for us. which you get swept up in the internet and like you tend to a lot of times even when you're on the internet

when you look at feedback like you gravitate towards the negative stuff and like you're kind of like like all people think we can't do it they think we're like don't know shit about golf in which we probably don't but then you actually come out here

everyone's like no this is fucking awesome and there's people watching and paying attention and they're into it and so yeah I you know I was pretty blown away by it I was like everyone else like we look we can

roll out of bed as hungover as imaginable coming off a two week vacation bender and do a golf podcast pretty decently because we've been doing it 600 times we could film a youtube video and go around and like fuck around on a golf course and shoot 8,000 and like it's going to be pretty funny and entertaining and we could do it and edit it in a way where it's good we didn't know if we could do three hours of live golf and have it not suck so i'm bringing over it was great the guy who really like pushed us to do this we got on we got on a google meet one day like a couple months ago and pete all business pete Pete Overmire, obviously.

All business Pete. Pete Overmire's his real name. Oh, you just docks. Docks. Don't love it. It's okay. We'll bleep that. You're on LinkedIn.

Yeah, continue. Is that now you're never anywhere? All business Pete's fine. Yeah, he's really hard, but on all business. We'll bleep that. How do you think this went? Obviously, you were behind the scenes. You were the one making the deals with the Corn Ferry Tour with PGA Tour Live.

I'm sure a lot of pressure on you for this product to deliver. How do you feel like this went? since this was like your baby and your inception? I mean, I think it went awesome. It went as good as it possibly could have, probably beyond my expectations. Same. The golf was fantastic.

The tour, PGA tour entertainment, everybody, the corn fairy tour. You know, those guys could reverse for a longer time over there? Sorry. Yeah,

no. It was just crazy. Yeah. So I don't know why they need to beep for being honest. It's a golf cart. You could take a beating in and be fine. That was just driving me crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think it was awesome. And you guys, I think they asked me like on Thursday, you know, we kind of got everything. Everything was looking good, you know, tested out everything. And they're like, what do you most worry about? And I was like, just kind of these guys freezing up on camera, like not having anything to say. And that's not to say that I thought it would happen, but it's kind of like we, everything else was ripping.

And the only thing left to do was turn it on and make sure that you guys were funny and creative and entertaining. And then the golf, right? The golf was just awesome coming down. I was looking for like a five-man playoff at the end, especially like on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. day when it was stacked up. But that eagle to get going and we saw, we probably saw double the viewership coming down the stretch and kind of getting everybody

everybody involved. So yeah, I thought it was awesome. Yeah, we guys had a fun time. We kind of sniffed. No, we did. I actually thought doing it was really, really fun. At the beginning, we gave you some pushback, remember in those first couple of meetings? I blew my load right away. We sniffed it out. Pete's looking to add to his resume. Portfolio. We were kind of pawns on that. Which is fine. It's fine. You know, inside baseball here. I got on call with the guys I said Pete's just doing this so that he can boost his own personal resume

and then go become like an executive producer of whatever production at like some major major media company which you probably still might be doing I do I put them in my pocket I have a basketball I've done that exactly I put a hockey in my pockets I don't have a golf your pockets are just hit in the ground right absolutely against that we just want you to know that we know that's what you're doing and I thought it was going to be a massive failure I thought we were taking risk we didn't have to take. I thought everything was kind of cushiony and we're like we're in this YouTube world with all these YouTube brands that we can fight against and who's going to get the next drink fireball drinks and they're going to get drunk and we're doing something way too

serious. And we freaking nailed it, man. We took that leap and we nailed it thanks to you, thanks to the production team that you got. I mean that our production team, the behind the scenes, Brand Packer, I mean, you want to talk about a guy that's a pro, a pro. Him and the son of Billy Packer. Exactly. Just very, very, very professional. And, And shout to Brand, he, like, really started to understand us. He did. Takes a couple days. Yep.

Throughout the week. You want to know where it turned? Yes. You remember we were doing the leaderboard and they put like, you know, these close-up shots or whatever. And you guys started talking about the bunker. Like, it was a close-up shot of the bunker. And it's like, that's a beautiful bunker shot back there. You weren't even paying attention to the leaderboard.

So as we were going to break, he did like the thing, which you would never do if you were on TV. And he took the leaderboard off. And you just remarked on the. the bunker for like the last couple of seconds and I was like that was when he like broke from I've got to do it the old way to like all right these guys are weird like let's give him what they want that the turtle there was a turtle was big but yeah miss putt with Tom Whitney I thought when when I started I broke a wall and said that Norman Jong was a guy I wasn't supposed to talk to as per an email we'd gotten and I was a little worried that revealing that would be a bad thing and brand behind the scenes

was thrilled. He wanted you to go harder. He wanted me to, uh, disgrace him. He wanted me to just ruin his, his, his lineage. No, no, no, I'm kidding. But, uh, he loved it. And, and, and, and hearing that in your ear as we're on commercial, you're like, wow, these guys are really, really on board.

And it was pretty thrilling. Yeah. So that was big for us. I thought that he came around. So thank you. Thanks, Pete. Thanks, Pete made all this happen. Good job, Pete.

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Get those EVs maintainedized. Go over to Chevy.com slash electric. This is kind of like the same feel I get after we get like a big tiger video or something. Oh, yeah. It's like we're like, we actually did it. Crow just sent me a video to send a Kirk. So we got a path to... Unreal. That's great. That's great. I was shocking way.

So I'm going to send it to you to send to Kurt. I'll put you guys out of tech. No, I feel like, I feel proud and fulfilled, which is, you know, the stuff we do now is, is great. And we do the YouTube videos and the podcast, but it's stuff that we've been doing. To do something completely new is just something we don't come across all that often anymore. And for it to go as well as it went, it's a good feeling. Yeah. Yeah, no, I was, you know, doing TV is, is very different too.

You have someone in your ear the whole time. It moves. So if you guys rewind to the first 30 minutes of Thursday, it moves fast. Like, it was crazy. It was happening. It just, but it was also just we were jumping. We were on this hole. We were on this hole.

And for us up in the main booth, it was like, we didn't even really know if we were allowed to chime in. and they're throwing it to you guys and you guys are with a group and then they cut to somebody and they're like, none of our guys are there so then we call it from the tower and then they'd throw it in France's there

and then they go, oh, hold on, actually Frankie and Trent have a guy over here going back and they're just jumping so much, so much, and you're like, holy fuck, what's going on? So once we kind of started to like find our stride,

I thought Friday, all the way through the whole weekend. Yeah, I just thought it went better than expected. I really did. I think it was also a perfect marriage with the Cornyberry tour in the sense of what Francis was saying earlier,

these guys were looking for exposure. So, you know, they're in Wichita. They're in all these places. There's no cameras. There's barely any people out there. There's no juice. So they were super excited for it. They were open to it.

I think without that aspect, it wouldn't have been nearly as good. I think if we were out there on the PGA tour, it might have been a different feel just because those guys take themselves a little bit more seriously and they're a little bit more guarded. So I think it just worked perfectly. Only golf brand promoting the PGA the Corpherr this week, if you ask me. I noticed a little silence. I just in Twitter searching. Yeah.

Guys I usually like to talk about, All quiet on the Twitter front. Growing the game. broadcast dude even if if one person watched the broadcast that's one more than was watching before you know what I mean because there were cameras

and microphones out there and we got way bigger numbers than that which is it's just cool man and these guys have been very appreciative all week which is very very cool what you were saying rigs like the switching back and forth I felt like we were definitely talking and adding way more character than a usual golf broadcasts

like it felt like every two seconds we were inputting something but that's also like the way we're going to do it, I feel like. It's more the comedic way. There was always something to say. There was always something that we could talk about as opposed to like, I feel like a regular golf broadcast. You can kind of fall asleep on the couch because it's just going to, the golf's just going to be playing and it's going to be on in the background. We were very like broadcast driven, like we were driving what was happening, what you're seeing, what you're hearing. I thought that was a huge difference between what you usually watch every weekend.

It's normally very formulaic. It's the same. There might be new voices who are slightly different, but this was a totally new feel. Our guy Mike Essie from Taylor Made said, we changed the game. I don't know if that's overstatement. But I mean, he's a hype guy. He's kind of like Spider. He's like a hype man. Yeah, I like the hype.

I felt good about it. But it is true. I mean, I don't know another sporting event, I guess the Arizona Bowl, but definitely not in golf that has handed the reins over to something that was completely outside the box. And it felt like a podcast going on during a live event more so than us trying to be something that we weren't.

Yeah. Like what TV broadcast has one of their on-course guys, like have a personal beef with a guy that he's walking with. Like that's zero. That stuff is just so great and so different that, yeah, you're just never going to get that anywhere else. I wanted him to fight me. I wanted him to, I mean, my God, how great would that have been for virality?

Apparently, Norman Jong's coach from Oregon is sending me a bunch of Oregon ducks merch and gear to try to sway my opinion of Norman. He just had his leg amputated. The coach did. Casey Martin. Buddy of Tigers. My gosh, that burden that you've just put on him to have to now package all this stuff and send it to you. The guy just got his leg amputated and he's dealing with Francis and slaying your opinion on what college team you're going to report.

You know, my God, Francis. Clothing, he has to go get the clothing. He has one less leg than he should. Jesus, Francis. I don't really know what you want me to say here. I don't feel that bad. Okay. I didn't tell him to send me the merch.

take his leg. I don't, you know. But I also think that that does speak to the fact that, you know, if that was on a normal broadcast, I think the general reaction would be, this is so disrespectful, but it's just not that serious. And the players aren't as sensitive as people think that they are. Yeah. The golf out here is that serious. That's why it was surprising. It was surprising to me. It's almost more serious. Dude, today, Goder up, we definitely took a step back. There's no way these people have to be. It's as if the whole country club, insists that you drive in reverse.

He just ran over a fucking beer can. You're doing great. He's going to actually go the whole road backwards. Yep. We're trying. It's actually featured by that beeping sound. Yeah, that beeping sounds a major part of the show. Those guys love reversing golf cars. We didn't

stop our group. So we had the two, we had Fishburn and we had got her. Fishburn ended up being in the playoff. I'm sure we'll get to the whole thing if we're not going to. You have to just watch the broadcasts. It's probably on barsonsports.com. You can go watch the replay. But we didn't actually stop our guys. guys once today because they were in the hunt to go win and they're not in the top 30,

which if you're in the top 30 in the Corrin Fairy Tour, you get your PGA tour card. This is life and death for these guys. Their girlfriends are out there. They're living and dying with every single shot that they hit. But Godorup couldn't stop talking to us the whole entire day. Yeah, we didn't grab him for the broadcast, but he was so excited that we were out there. And I'm looking at him being like, this is focus huge for you. Like he came out to me.

He's like, I can't believe that hit the tree. Can you believe that bounce? I just got this is insane. What are you guys doing after this? Where are you guys going next? Oh, you got a pickleball event on Saturday? I'm like, bro, you have three holes left. You need two birdies.

And you need an eagle on 18. Stop. Dude, how about Trace Crow walking to the green after hitting his approach shot in the second playoff? Yep. Yep. Saying, turning to us and saying, this guy, what does he say? He goes, a mammoth. This guy's a mammoth hitting two iron at the stick like a crazy person.

He goes, this is nuts. I'm like, he's a crazy person. Don't talk to us. Go win 180 grand, you live. lunatic. There's a lot on the line here. So it ended up going to two playoff holes. And at that moment, Crow, I thought,

figured that he had lost the tournament. The way he said that to us, where he's like, this guy's a mammoth, like, the way he's ripping these two irons, I got no chance to lay up every single time. What am I supposed to do out here? He ends up winning that hole because Fishburn ends up just... He said Fishburne had all the momentum. He made the Eagle on 18

in regulation, and then it's... He's hitting those two irons. I'm sure he didn't feel great about it. Crowe. Yeah, Crow said that he took out his five wood or something in the interview? So he said he took out his three wood. All he had was a six wood and a two iron. And he had like two 85 or 258 in. And I asked to ask him during the trophy ceremony and I MC and thank four hundred seventy five people. And then so he's like, I just couldn't get there with that. Yeah. So it wasn't even a choice. Like I didn't have the club to get there. Yeah. So the playoff itself was was intriguing because you had Fishburn who was

taking dead aim and you had Crow who was laying up. And he didn't birdie the hole. either of the three times that they played it. Oh, no, he made that big pot on the... He made that 20-foot or 15. But, you know, he didn't play that whole particularly well, and it looked like it was going Fishburn's way until that he fatted that bunker shot. That was shocking.

That was shocking. He had been so nails. He had been the guy. He had been kind of in the driver's seat the whole time. He loved that 18th hole. Dude, we followed him all day. He's a robot. Driver, fairway, green, putt. Like, that was it all day. And good at all of it. It never looked like he was shaky in any spots.

We saw McCormick, I believe it was, who kind of lost the driver. We saw multiple guys that we followed throughout, even if they shoot six, seven under, like they were losing certain parts of their game, not him. Like Fishburn was just locked in. He was a stripe show.

And then on 18, even though he came up a couple yards short in that bunker, like that was from 240 or whatever. Still a good shot. He was still a pretty good shot. He had that upslope. He was just outside of kind of the spray from where his ball landed.

And for him to kind of just chili dip it into the bunker and then kind of overcompensate, leave himself a 15. footer or whatever it was and miss that was shocking but dude it's hard out there under that pressure to be playing well all day like that to not have like me and franzers talking this morning you really realize when you're out here at a golf tournament like this like we've very we've done very few weeks in our career where we've been at a golf tournament from monday through monday like the mental toll that it takes to be focused from not just the first shot thursday but from

like your practice round monday your practice round tuesday your practice round tuesday your practice round Wednesday all day Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday every single shot to be that mentally locked in the whole time is fucking impossible and you can't have any lapses especially out here with the way the golf course is playing you can't have a round where you go and shoot two under no you're going to get a lapped so it was like you had to have the pedal to the metal the whole time and I what you're saying I understand why you know a lot of these guys maybe get married young or they or they travel with family because it you're right it takes so much you want something off the golf course that kind of takes her mind away from it and have a little little.

home base on the road. So it was just, yeah, it was for Crow to do it. He also made that triple bogey on the second hole. That was right before we came on air. We thought you make a triple bogey out here. I mean, it kills your tournament. So he would have, he would have been flying if you had and he had been the guy all week that was putting it lights out. So you kind of think like, okay, that's not sustainable. We had kind of said on the broadcast the day before. And then he just from that point on was nails and hit it great, putted it great. So what a finish. How about the fact We got two playoff holes in our first ever broadcast. On the 18th hole, Fishburn's two back.

The leaders are behind them. And I'm seeing him in the middle of the fairway. And you're looking at a 245, you've got to clear everything shot. He whips out of two iron. Are you, any normal human being is crumbling in that moment. Two wire. I whiff. That's a whiff.

Yeah. Tops right to the long. The entirety of that number, 245, is carry. The entirety of. Bunkers. Into the wind, I think it was playing 255. Swirly wind. 255 to 260 maybe. You got an 160 ball speed. Absolutely nut this thing.

It's like your driver. And he just puts it on the green. It sits soft, goes to the edge, right in that first cut, right on the fringe. And you're just thinking like, all right, amazing golf shot. No chance he makes this pot and drains a 40 footer from off the greens. It's just like, what are we talking

about? And that, all that, he didn't even win the damn thing. That's how hard this tournament is. Well, I think it speaks to how we see that shot and we think my god that's the most insane golf shot i've ever seen right but trace crow was putting lights out and yeah he laid up but he makes his birdie putt in the first playoff yeah and the other guy doesn't make his eagle putt to win so they go to a second and then you know it kind of came down to a short game contest it's incredible how much putting it's You got to roll the world.

Especially out here. Well, no, Brock has been shitting on Crow for laying it up. Now you're in the first playoff. You just watch Fishburn do that. Everyone's kind of like, all right, Fishburn has all of the momentum. And he does the same thing in the playoff. He hits a bomb. And he puts all the pressure on Crow to have to maybe try and hit.

He was talking with his caddy. Do I hit like a trap? It's like 260. I don't know if I can get anything there. He's like, I really don't feel comfortable. I'm going to lay. up. Once you lay up, Fishburn hits another 250 shot into the wind

perfectly onto the green. We're like, this tournament's over, but they're so good at their short game that you're never over until it's over. And he puts it on the green and hits a bomb and we're on to the second playoff. It's just never ending. So the playoff number was 25 under, is that right? Yes. And they also were playing this is a part 71.

For most people, it's a par 72. So this course is rated 74.0 140. And if it was the normal par, these guys were 29 under par. two of them. And then there was guys at 28 under par and 27 under par. So it was a highlight. And I played in the Monday this week. It was a, just reminds you of how, how damn good these people are. Gentlemen, we want it all. Yeah, we do. We want to play it by ear and have definite plans.

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It's a game changer. Trace Crow. Oh, yeah, Trace. Trace Crow. Come say hi. Trace, come to say hello. He's running out. Run it up.

Get up. Get up. Yeah. Come on. Trace Crow. You kidding me? Where's Kirkman ahead at? Yeah.

Brother. Did you think it was cooked after he hit the green with the second shot in the first playoff hole? Yeah. No. thought I had to hit a good wedge. I hit it the 30 feet. I had the same putt in regulation. I was just like, if we get this thing started online, it will have a chance after seeing it. Crazy putts. It was a double breaker? Yeah, Gwendolyn left and then starts to come back right at the

end. In the playoff, I thought I missed it left, and it just snuck in there. Might have hit something. Who knows, man. Second playoff hole. He had hit, you know, he's in the bunker. He's ripping two iron at these. Just a mammoth. And you looked at us on the fairway. You would lay it up. And you're like, this guy's a mammoth, just ripping two irons. Was there ever any, like, I didn't have a three wood. I'm laying up. Did any doubt creep into your mind walking up to that green being like, this guy's in a way better position than me? He has the advantage?

Oh, 100%. Right, because I felt it. The way you said it was like, this guy feels like he's battling uphill the entire time. No, for sure. In a playoff, when a guy knocks it at 20 feet and you're in the left rough hitting a wedge, it's not fun. But, no, it was good. Just to make that put and just extended another hole. That was like a miracle in itself.

Yeah, man. So we talked about it a lot of the strategy in the playoff. What were your yardages on the 72nd hole and the two playoff holes on 18? Do you remember? Yeah, I had 248 in regulation. Did you think about changing your strategy? But it was into the win. I got a nuke like a two iron to get it there.

Right. So I was just like, I have a better chance. You know, at worst, making par. Even after he made it, it didn't change your mind at all. No. Because I just didn't have the club. If I had three, I would have just banged it off the back of the.

So that's what Alistair texts me. Alistair texts me and goes, I wouldn't be surprised if he just bangs it off the grandstand because it's an easy up and down. But I just didn't have that club. Why'd you take it out? Why'd you take it out? I took it out after Friday,

and it was good yesterday, but today. That's such a great point. How do we not talk about that? You could just rip it at the grandstand. Yeah, and he just comes back. That's like the 14thal of the match play,

the Delmatian. match play where they hit it over that water and they all oh yeah yeah i heard you with your caddy being like i'd have to trap it it just wasn't worth the risk right at that point right no i mean at worst i probably i knew i was going to get in a playoff right regulation so it's just like let's just win it with a wedge right right right i got to go to africa boys he's got to go to africa right that's crazy i know i'm going to get on a plane ride so that's exciting though so for everyone you know have fun by dance hey travels great work this week so for everybody like we tried to really put it into active on the broadcast.

But for you, where you are at with the points, and now you win, how much does this change your golf career? No, it's everything. Now I have a chance to go get tour card. You know, starting a year with conditional status, not really knowing what you're going to play in or what you're really going to do. Got into a few PJ tour events played all right in those. And, yeah, just kind of just playing wherever I could play.

Now this is, I got a bunch of events to go try to secure that up. It's exciting. I'm pumped. 25-100 this week. I'm still in disbelief. Especially with the way it ended. We were talking with a couple guys as the week was going on, and it was a birdie fest all the whole week.

How draining is that when you play a golf course like this, where you know that you have to make birdie not only to progress, but maintain your... Triples don't help. No, I don't. And you made one on the second hole. Walk us through that. No, I had like 1.30.

Got a little aggressive. Was into the wind? Were you in the run? Right, rough? Yeah. I was just there all week. And I just tried to get too aggressive. And on the second hole of the day, you can't do that.

No. But, yeah, no, it was crazy. But is that, is playing a golf course like this where you know that birdie is like the standard? Is that, it has to be draining playing four days of that, right? Where as opposed to like making good shots would be way more rewarding maybe on a more difficult setup. Right. So you don't congratulate yourself after making a birdie out here. Which is like, I got to go make another one.

Right. You're like another one. Yeah. I was making out. But, yeah, no, yesterday I feel like I could make it from anywhere. I was just like, just give me on the grain. But you had 22 fucking bucks. What a feeling.

What a feeling. I was like, I'll fight my swing a little bit. Unbelievable chip-ins or like, it was just 22 straight puts? No, I mean, I was just like just off the grain a couple times. Yeah, okay. Trace. That's, I can't wrap my head. You told me yesterday after I interviewed you after year round that the hole just was really gaping, like in some of those adult videos that I've seen.

Now, was that true today? Was the whole huge today? After the probably starting around seven. Yeah, seven or eight, I felt like I was like, if we knock it close. I mean, when you're putting that good, you just don't think about the second putt, right? You're just like, I'm just going to make it. You don't think about where it's going to go and did that well, even on regulation on 18. I was just like, I didn't even think about missing that put where I'd leave it.

And it just happened to roll up there and tap in. luckily just to get in the playoff. So we, you know, we've noticed a lot, like, as golf fans, as guys, that we got friends out here on the Corn Fairy Tour. We watched the Q School finals, and we couldn't even actually watch the play. We're watching, like, you know, updates on the Internet, trying to do Shotlink and all that. We were here this week. For us, we still view ourselves as, like, idiots, like, that have no credibility.

But it seemed to be that people were way more, like, welcoming and excited for us to be here than we kind of expected. was kind of the general sentiment around the crew of us being here doing this this week no i thought it was like i listened to it after thursday i thought it was a good take on it like little more jokes rather than just straight serious golf you know you know you know brandle and people just talking weird up there but no it was uh no i thought y'all did great man brandle talking weird that's pretty good good way to describe it i don't know what i'm saying dude I love it.

I love it. I don't say anything you want. I hate Brandle. I don't even know who Brandon is. Norman John. Well, dude, we really appreciate you hopping on here. I'm sure you got a million things to do. Congratulations.

For us to see this up close. Thank you. I'll kill it this week. Great. You're just a part of it. It's been pretty special. Life changing day. Let's fucking go.

Let's go. Yeah, let's go. We'll see you out there, man. Congrats, Trace. Appreciate it, man. Thanks a time. family. Have a good night. Trace Crowe,

your NV5 invitational presented by old National Bank champion. Awesome. Wow. What a good feeling that must be. Under an 80 grand in your pocket. This is their dream and they're so close to achieving it and he just did something that's going to allow him to get closer to his dream.

You can tell he has a dream dream. You can tell he hasn't even fully absorbed it. I'm going to say this. I had the luck to win a member guest golf tournament. Good comparison. in here, let's do it. I saw the put. As just a whatever, recreational golfer, not good. It was the most exciting moment of the last 10 years of my life.

And it may be, maybe ever. I mean, I truly, there's something about golf where it's so hard and we have so few wins as recreational golfers. Yep, mostly losses. Like, whole by hole. Yeah. We had like, whatever, 100 people up on the hill. 70 people watching. I got spray with champagne and I just people say that the birth of your child is

the best mom of your life. There's no chance it would be better. So I, you know, I hope that that Trace gets to really drink in this victory and there's almost a, you know, he's probably got to get on a plane tomorrow to go to Salt Lake to get ready for next weekend. But they'll soak it in there. Yeah. I guess. There is. Bo-doot. No. He made that joke on the broadcast, nobody got it. Nobody got it. I said, because...

It got combative up in our movement. Fishburn. Fishburn is from Utah. I went to BYU, and I said, you know, it's a homecoming next week. They're going to Utah. I'm sure he's going to soak these next two weeks in. It's subtle enough. It is very subtle.

It is very subtle. The joke is that Mormons and people from Utah tend to soak. It's a form of sex. They don't thrust. It's their loophole. It's their loophole. It's their loophole. Paul. God doesn't watch them.

Adam Ferone did a video about it. You can find it on YouTube. And there's jumpers on the bed. You marinate and then someone jumps on the bed and moves you. It's that you're not actually being the one. They showed that in jury duty, which was so funny. Not enough people give jury duty. It's due. I think they do. I think people know. I think it's...

I don't think anyone on this show is watched yet. I haven't seen it. No. Guys, it's the best comedy since the office. I'm not kidding. Really? What they achieved with this show is it's groundbreaking. You won't want to stop watching it.

The premise is that the premise is that there is a, this guy shows up for jury duty and he's there and he's like in this holding area. And the whole, he gets picked for the jury. He knows there's a documentary being made about the legal system. So there's cameras everywhere. But he thinks it's a documentary being made about the legal. legal system, not this particular case. And there's a

case, and I don't want to give away. I mean, I guess the premise of it's like giving away. They tell it right off the bat. He's Truman showed. Right. The case is bad. Everyone else in the entire world is an actor except him. And the case, the judge, the victims, all these people are actors.

And so they're basically seeing how does this guy in this fake world react when we throw things at him? When we make him when we make him like the head guy, and we're going to make him walk in on people having, like we want to know how he reacts. And it's,

it's an amazing look into like how humans can be when they're putting those situations. It's amazing. Go watch it. It's on Amazon, I think. It's really amazing.