Fore Play - "Webb ruined The Players" Week w/ Ryan Whitney

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

Former NHL'er and golf nut Ryan Whitney joins the show this week to talk golf. In what might be our funniest show yet, the boys breakdown Webb Simpson making The Players Championship boring as hell, Johnny Miller delivering hot take after hot take, Tiger making a run (plus Whit tells the story of Tiger playing through him at Medalist), and Dufner's putting woes costing him hundreds of thousands of dollars. We also answer the question: is it a bender move to use a rubber driving range tee on the golf course???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We have a big show this week with our friend Ryan Whitney. Whit played in the NHL for, I don't know, somewhere around a decade and since retiring, has become obsessed with golf. He's got the bug. He's on NHL Network. He's on Spitting Chicklets. He's an incredibly funny guy.

No joke, this might be our funniest show yet. We talk about how Boring Webb Simpson made the players championship. We talk about Tiger Woods playing through Witt at Metalyst earlier this year. We talk about Duff Daddy's putting woes, costing him hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. We take some from the galleries, including the question, is it a bender move to use a rubber driving range tee on the golf course? It's foreplay. Let's get it. This episode of Forplay is brought to you by My Blue.

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Go to MyBlue.com to learn more. Now that I've had time to digest, a couple things about Band and Dunes. Last time I discussed it was, of course, on last week's show. I was at an airport in Eugene. The whole trip hadn't really hit me yet. I was still literally in Oregon. I was driving all across. I was getting ready to fly across the country.

Again, I've had time to just kind of sit down. I've gotten a million questions, a million questions about abandoned dunes, how to do it. So what I've taken is or are a handful of the most frequently asked questions and just going to take a minute or two and go through it so that people can get the proper information. This is probably for a lot of you, a trip that you'll save up for quite a while, that you'll plan for. for quite a while that you'll talk about with your buddies leading up to it for months and months and months and months. So again, it's important to have all the right information. The number one question that I get is how much does it cost? Give me a rough estimate. Give me this. Give me that.

Look, it's going to completely depend on what time a year you go. Their rates change seasonally and drastically because they're a year-round place weather-wise. I mean, they're open in December. They're open in the middle of the summer. You're going to get, you know, dicey or if you go in December or something like that, but it's going to be significantly cheaper. But to give you sort of a concrete information, if you do it the right way, you can play all five courses and you can stay for three nights for the $1,500-ish range. You can do it for a couple hundred dollars cheaper. If you go at a certain time, you can get closer to $2,000 or a little over $2,000.

If you do it, again, kind of in the middle of summer, something like that. And like I said, if you rework it, you can get significantly cheaper. You can get more expensive if you really want to. But if you're out there and you're wondering like, okay, that's a little steep. We're thinking about going to this other place. Take the extra six months, save up and do it because Bandon was, and even Whitney and I talk about it a little bit. Bandon was the best golf destination that I've been to, and it's not even really close. The second question is the travel.

How hard it is it really to get there? It's honestly not that bad since they added flights into North Bend. North Bend is like a 35-minute drive from Bandon Dunes. It's literally like a charter flight of all people. We took the flight from San Francisco, connector to San Francisco or from San Francisco. And it was legitimately every person on the plane was going to Bandan Dunes. Everybody's jacked up. Everybody's having drinks.

So we took a flight from New York. We live on the East Coast. We live in about the hardest place to get to Bandan Dunes that you can live in the whole country. We flew on Friday morning, a 6 a.m. We were in San Francisco. We met up with the rest of our crew. We took the hour and a half or 50 minute flight, whatever it is, pretty short flight to North Bend. We were on the T by 3 o'clock in the afternoon at Bandon.

So it's very simple. The one mistake that we made is we didn't fly out of North Bend on Monday. The next question I get is how much time should we spend there? I think you need to block off at least four days. So four free days. If you've got to do a Thursday, Friday to kind of make it a four-day weekend, if you got to do a Friday Monday, which is what we did. I think you need full four days off of one. work so that you can travel for half the first day, play half that day, two full days, or you can

probably do 36 or 31 holes or something like that if you play the 13-hole preserve course, and then another round on the final day, and then half a day for travel. But stay three nights, play all five courses. That's 418 hole tracks, and the par three course, the part three course, like I mentioned, it might be your favorite course there. They've got a bunch of holes that are on the water. It's a core Crenshaw design, so they spent, you know, serious money. bringing these guys in. Serious talent to design a part three course, and it's some of the coolest part three as you've ever seen in your entire life. So again, block off, I think four days, spend three nights.

You can do more if you want, but I think you've got to do at least that to kind of get the maximum experience. Caddies, everybody asks about this. Should we take caddies? I think for three, at least three of the four courses, I highly highly recommend caddies. I think Old McDonald, I think Banded Dunes, and I think Pacific Dunes. you really need caddies. I think you could play band-in-trails without them. I think of the routing and all that's pretty straightforward.

But in terms of like Old Mac, like we, I think would have legitimately hit the ball in the wrong direction if we didn't have caddies. So I would highly recommend, and at that point, if you're going to take them for three rounds, you might as well take them for all four. I don't think you need them on the part three course. We did it because they kind of have a, you know, a fun system where your caddies are pretty much going to be your guys for the whole week. When you play 36 holes, a couple days, they're going to be with you.

the whole time. Pretty standard, 100 bucks a bag. We tipped them a little bit extra afterwards because they were awesome. So again, if you're going to, let's say you're going to take four rounds out there with a caddy, maybe tip them an extra 100 between four or 500 bucks. So you want to add that to your cost, go for it. You can play the golf courses without them. I would recommend that you take them. The final question that I get the most is, is the place too difficult? A lot of guys say, hey, look, my dad, he's a 22 handicapped. We really want to buy him this trip for Father's Day or whatever for his birthday. Is it too difficult for them. Literally the exact opposite. These courses are built to be playable for everybody.

The whole place is going to be a significantly easier and more playable property than any resort you go to in Florida with water, with trees, tree line fairways, all of that. They are built to be playable. They get very wide fairways. There's almost no force carries. You almost can't lose a golf ball except for a few spots where you might go out into the Pacific Ocean like Riggsie. Outside of that, They're very, very playable, so they could not be more the opposite of that. If that's your concern, wipe it, flush it down the drain. They're very playable. They're awesome.

If you've got any more questions about Bandon, just shoot me an email, Riggs at Barswellsports. com. I don't get anything from this. I don't work for Bandon Dunes. I just want people to have as cool of an experience as I had. It was, again, the coolest golf trip I've ever been on. Probably helped that my brother got his first hole in one, which I'm still thinking about that. It's insane.

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We got a very, very special guest this time. Our good friend, Ryan Whitney, spitting chicklets, NHL Network, playing the NHL Forever. Obviously, now a much bigger golf guy.

Thank you for this point. I appreciate that. Well, I'll take nine years. Is we going to give it? Nine years? get that? So a very interesting sub in here because you are basically a podcast cucking Frankie Borelli.

I'm just, I mean, the kid's a pigeon. For me to replace him, people have to be excited because Grenali, I mean, not Grinley, he's a pigeon too, but Frankie, he just doesn't bring what it needs. I listen to you guys, and his golf takes, he steals range balls, he's a scumbag. He is a scumbag. He took a lot of heat for the fact that he, not only does he steal range balls, but then he takes him, he jumps over a fence. And plays like a par three, right?

He plays a part three and then leaves the balls and he hits over there? He must have been like, he had no clue what was coming when he probably admitted that. He was probably like, oh, it's no big deal. And everyone's like, dude, what are you doing? That was one of the first shows that we did with him. And he was kind of just like free will. And I think we had, we in Minneapolis, maybe you had a few drinks or something. It was just like, yeah, I go to these par three's and I just hit a million balls and leave them there.

And the backlash he got was insane. So I don't think you knew what he was doing. No, he delivered it like, how about this cool efficient practice technique I found out? And everyone's like, you fucking psychopath. What are you doing? Like imagine the guy who works at the course Wakes up every morning and there's just a million balls out there. If I was that guy, I'd wait to find out,

I'd just hunt down, like, where those balls end up and sit there all day, and when he came, I think I'd just stab him because to make him pick up those shit-range balls is so unacceptable. We've just said there's got to be, like, the maintenance guy that works on that little fucking green has to just sit there with a shotgun sometimes. I'm going to catch that motherfucker.

Exactly. That's a guy who used to work on golf courses, I would hunt that guy down and murder him. Are you kidding me? I have to cut the greens somewhere. I have to move, like, 180 balls. And murder somebody. My brother worked at a...

He worked at the course. I actually am a member at now. And he was young. He was like a high school or college job. And he would go... You know, you had to be there at what? 4.35 a ham. Yeah, just crack a dawn.

So he would just go to like cut one green or, you know, the rough around one green. And then he just like break down like the lawnmower was fucked up and then just sleep next to it. So that was the play as being a golf course guy. Good old Frankie also had the, when he was on vacation in Florida a couple months ago, he went to this little like, like, like, what was it like an assisted living place basically with a golf course for older people it's called like the bridge three holes yeah it was called like the bridge and he rolled up and he goes out there and he thought that this was like the practice range and he hit like a million balls onto this green thinking like oh man i'm looking good my wedges is good

he's like then this like old man marshal rolls up is like what the fuck are you doing he was just on like the seventh hole hitting balls onto one of the greens on the court you can't take frankie this kid's a joke man i'm telling you he's an absolutely a little joke. How's his game? You know, he's got a really nice swing. But he scores, like, just horrific. Scores horrifically. Like, I'll post all my, you know, I'll post him on Instagram

stories and stuff like that. Everyone's like, wow, Frankie's like silky. Well, but he, like, can't break 100. He always says, what's he says, he's got the, he's got knives? He's whatever, he's got butter knife. He's got, he said his wedge game feels like he's got a butter knife in his hand. Oh, so he's just blading everything over the game. He blades everything around the green. I will say

I have some ridiculous moron stories about myself, on a golf course. It's actually one in particular. So just don't let me not tell that story before we're done here today. So you're a good player, by the way. What are you of three? I'm here and there. I'm here and there. Right now, I'm a three, but I can

shoot, you know, three over. I'm really happy with, and then I'll go shoot 85 some days. You'll be like, actually, I didn't play that horrific from you. No, I just like, I just, no, I'll, like, just go flip out and be just miserable at home the day as I play bad, and then the next day I go back out, and if it's good, I'm happy. And it just, golf makes my mood every day. It's not healthy.

You go play well and you're like in the clubhouse afterwards, mucking it up with everybody. I try. Everyone knows right away. Oh, Witt played good today. He's actually talking to us. I got to work on that. I'm telling you I really have to work on that. We only play it.

I think we played one round. It was with our guy Welchie, who we've had on the show. I forgot we played a round together. It was one time. That was before you were, you just got hired. It was I had just gotten hired. I'd literally gotten hired like a month before. Yep.

I wasn't even really doing any golf shit yet. And we both know Welchie. Welchie's the man. And he rolled us out to TBC Boston. Through first stage of U.S. Open qualifying, Welchie is. God, he's good, dude. His action is just so good. His action's so sick.

It's sick. We'll get into him, maybe, but we'll probably get into Welchie. I remember seeing you, and you were just ripping it inside, but you can hit it. You got some game. I don't remember the match. We played Welchie, and who's your... Renner. No, it wasn't Renner.

It wasn't there. Renner had hooked us up and gotten us out there. Who's your... Who's the... Joe Harney? It wasn't Joe Harney. It wasn't like this... Whoever we played with is like a 12, but he's a beauty.

He was where... He was rocking one of those, like, Kyle, a soccer ball things, the red ones. What's that fucking guy's name? I know Welchie's out there listening. He's like, this is, I can't think of his fucking name. I got a horrible memory, but. But it was four of us. We played against the two of them, and Welchie kind of dusted us.

He shot like, three under. He was shot, like, 69 from the tips at TVC Boston. And he plays, like, once a week. We were like, okay, Welchie. But speaking of my action, shout out to Kiz, our guy, Kevin Kisner. Oh, he's calling him Kiz now. I like that. Yeah.

He's been on this podcast like 25 times. We can call them whatever we want. I was watching the rough and rowdy when he got the boot. Dave's like, who the fuck is this guy? Oh, that's guy on the Ryder Cup team. He's like a top 20-plus of the world. People were like, match up with Phil with the president's cup.

Dave genuinely does not believe Kisner has ever been on a golf course before. He's like, that fucking guy. No, I don't blame. I was probably like, who is that guy? So Kiz, I posted, I was like grinding in the fucking rain on Saturday. I had nothing else going on. I posted a couple of Instagram stories. So now I've got Kiz, I posted on my swing, like me trying to work on my swing,

whatever, be less brutal. And I got Kiz sending me, Just a novel full text messages right now trying to help me with my action. So shout out to kids. He's at his daughter's swim lessons right now. Just going over my swing. That's exactly what he's. That of all, honey.

Hold on. Riggs is over the top here again. So he's legit. I hope Mrs. Kiz is listening because he's just sitting at fucking swim practice right now. All right, Riggs, let's work on this. Let's work on that. Players championship.

Unupsetting. Brutal. Jesus. I started tweeting about it on Saturday morning. I was like, he ruined the whole goddamn weekend, Webb Simpson. He'd flip out if I said goddamn about his name. I think he's a Bible guy. I think he's one of those guys.

He ruined the whole weekend. He thanked, he gave his faith a lot of the credit yesterday in his post-game speech. I had two different members of my family texting me about the fact that he did a co-interview with his wife afterwards. And they were like, if you don't rip this fucking guy to shreds, blah, blah. So. Wait, who's it? What's that? Just both my brother and my father.

Oh, they want you to rip Webb. They were like pissed. They were legitimately mad at Webb. He just ruins a fucking galtzer. I also thought his gray that he's got coming in on his beard, I thought was unsoaked in sunscreen. I thought it was too. No, because I was really looking,

because you'd think throughout the day it would change, right? Like the consistency of it would change. A lot of those guys do it, but it's blotchy. His was just like, that's just what his beard is. That was fucking me up the whole time. He might want to keep shaving then if that's what it's growing in. He's got to do something or don't, like, mix in, don't they have a million ads where you can just like mix in some color and all that.

Yeah, that's a lot of work. though. I do think like it was, you got to give him credit, dude. He played insane. I mean, like, he lapped the best field and golf pretty much. It was just upsetting as a, you know, as a golf fan to have him and he's got five woods in his bag. He's got three hybrids and I think a three wood and a five wood. So that's a little painful to watch of the PJ tour. Maybe that's a little more LPG. I'm not hating on that, but I like seeing these guys ripped two iron, 260. So it was a little upsetting for me, but credit to him. It's also fucking shocking that that guy, you can have, like you said, all these hybrids his bag. He's got clubs in his bag, I'd be embarrassed

to put in my bag. And he wins the players' championship just absolutely dusting the field. Going away. I think he's like 148th in driving distance on tour. He can win at the players' championship. And again, I mean, it was, when you teed off on Saturday, right? And you're like, all right, he's got a five-shot lead. Let's see him shoot 80. Let's see it. And he shoots

fucking four under 68. Just ruin the whole goddamn weekend. Tiger gave us some hope. We've got to talk some Tiger. We've been talking about Tiger for years now. You and I go back and forth on Twitter. I want to say to, so on Friday. So on Friday night I was on Evening Yak with Big Cap and he's like, all right, where are we at with Tiger? Because Troll Cat, he's kind of like got me all inception now.

Was he being like serious or was he being? He was being kind of serious because he's reading the book right now, the new book. So he's like, I'm kind of into the Tiger stuff. Heard it does not make him look good. It doesn't make, I guess, it doesn't make his parents look good and it makes him look kind of like, you know, almost you feel bad for him a little bit, but you also get it a little bit. I haven't read it, so I don't know. But anyways, we're fucking talking about this book. So I think Big Cat was being kind of serious.

he's like, where are we at with Tiger? And I was like, we're in this devastating stage where he barely makes the cut on the number and then we're forced to get up and watch him play at like 9 a.m. on Saturday and Sunday. But then he comes out Saturday morning. He's fucking 8 under through like 12 holes. I was like, oh my God.

I wasn't paying attention because it's early. He's very early for golf coverage. And then Twitter, I was like, he's 8 red. Of course I turn it on. He ends up making a bogey, I don't know what hole it was. So I fucking blogged it. As soon as I blogged it, he made bogey. And then the next hole he threw his driver out.

after on 15. She pushed them. So people, people were mad at me on Twitter. People are DMing me being like, delete the fucking block rigs. I was like, guys,

it's just a swing. But Tiger, I mean, look, here's my theory. People are like, can you win? Is you going to win?

Tiger, if Ted Potter fucking Jr. could win at Pebble Beach a month or two ago. If Webb Simpson could come out and catch fire and blow the field out, Tiger fucking Woods can win on tour. Yeah, I have a bet with a guy that he doesn't win a major before, 50 for a thousand bucks.

So that looks, I think that looks great for me. I think he'll win again, but... You're betting he doesn't win a major. I say he doesn't win another major. This was like three, two years ago I made that bet when he was going through like the... When it was just a disaster, I think it was chipping yips around that time I made the bet. So I'm not necessarily overconfident in that bet, but this is... I would be not confident in that bet at all after this weekend.

What happened this weekend that changed it was the driving on the weekend. Because if he drives it like that, he'll at least win PGA events, if it's not a major. But before, I mean, if he goes back and he can't drive the ball, he won't win the U.S. Open. Open. He won't win the British Open, or the Open Championship immediately. Maybe he gets a master's you can spray a little bit, and the PGA depends on the course. But, dude, if you can't drive the ball, you have to be, it's all these guys who win. Webb Simpson was last in driving distance this week, but he's first in accuracy. Right.

Right. So you can't win at this level anymore and not hitting fairways. And until this weekend, he didn't. But this weekend scared the shit out of me because he was pounding it on a string at a tight golf course. And it was weird because on Thursday and Friday, his whole game looked like dog shit.

Like, even though there were flashes of brilliance, overall it was the least inspiring golf I've ever seen. Everyone's like, how the fuck is this guy going to make the cut? He does. It's like, we got to watch him this weekend. We've got to pretend like he has a chance. And then he caught fire and he looked phenomenal.

He's pounding the golf ball. Even his little two iron stingers he was hitting. Oh, those on the 14. That's true. He just crank yourself to those shots. Ripping those things. Throw yourself around your bedroom to those shots. He was ripping those.

And, like, you know, they got the pro tracer now, which obviously changes the whole game, changes the whole viewing experience. They weren't doing the light blue, which we've said here, we say the light blue one makes it look like he actually hits it on a throat, like it's actually frozen. I like it's a amazing red trail. No, red makes me think like it's going, it's bad. It's going out of bounds. Makes me think under par, birdies.

Red good number. See, no, red to me it looks like Star Wars, like the blasters that they shoot, and it seems unrealistic. When they give me the light blue one, it legitimately looks like it's like frozen. It's like, I get chills when he hits it. I will say quickly about Sunday with him, here's what he doesn't have anymore. And there was a very slight chance he was going to win it, right? At one point he was down four, and he wasn't going to win, but it was still exciting. That was my favorite party yesterday was the unspoken thing.

Like, he might fucking win this thing. Like, if he keeps playing this well. But it was also so far from actually. Right. Webb had to slide back a couple. And there was other guys. But here I was going to say, quick. 14th hole, he gets to it.

And he's just had horror, a horrible time there in his career. And he pounded drive. It got down the hill. Remember watching? 354. And he had 111 in. And it's like, all right, Tiger's back. He's feeling it today.

And he hit a 60 degree. And it was short. And then he tried putting it. And he made a bogey. It's like, he didn't used to do that, dude. Why the fuck did he hit a 60 there? He had 110. I was like.

Because he's so jacked up, dude. I bet you he flies that club like 101. He's like, all right, I'll fly at one. 12 I'll just rip at it. See, but I feel like the old target, he was the best at crafting these little, like, right? Like, I could have seen him almost hitting a fucking pitching wedge there and hitting some crafty low, you know? Like a low 54 that just stops on a dime. Like hits into that false front and skips and stops or something.

And then he tries to fly. It's like, that's a mistake that dumb rigs makes. Like, I'm like, I can fly a 60. They're like, no, you've never done that before. It's like, God, he's like somewhat. All right, I'm using in the hunting quotations here, being four back on a Sunday. But still, he was feeling it. And Webb Simpson was like even at the time.

So that's just a moment. where he used to stuff it. Right. And now I think there's like, I don't know, dude, I'm just guessing. He's the greatest golfer of all time. But I just think it's like a different mentality for him now. I really do. And when he pulled the putter out, I mean, again, you would have thought he'd, like, send

some little skip pitch up there that would, like, check and then take the break and, like, scare the hole. I knew he was missing that par putt, too. You knew it. You knew it. He's been deflating. He did the same fucking thing on Saturday when he's absolutely buzzing. He gets to, what, 14 or 15, where he's, like, 700 in the day, makes bogey, and then he didn't birdie 16. all Saturday or Sunday, which that hole for him, he could literally hit three wood like seven iron into that green.

You know the moment that made me be like he's winning a major is when he hit that on Sunday, he hit that par five. I think it's 11. He hit it in two with that nice gut and had, he had like 20 feet for eagle and burned the edge. And I was like, all right, dude, that iron shot, I was like, this is old tiger right now. But like we said, it just, it ends up like, it does, he doesn't close the deal anymore. Which is like the complete opposite of what we're used to. It was the exact opposite. Yeah, when he hit that, when he fucking snap yanked, that one OB at Bay Hill.

That's what 17. That was kind of just like, wait, what? I go to Bay Hill. We've been three years in a row, my buddies. And that, to go out of bounds or he went out of bounds is like off the planet left. That's what I was talking to my dad about it. He goes, well, he did kill that golf balls. Like, well, yeah.

Yeah, that's like Frankie. I killed it. I made a seven, but I crushed that drive. The old Muppet. I will say, too, like, as much shit, we try so hard to be like, we're into every golfer. It's not just about the big stars, not just about Tiger. Them showing Tigers warm-up on Live From, and they have the track man behind it now, so you literally get the exact numbers and the trajectory and the Pro Tracer on every shot he hits in warm-ups

was more fascinating than watching Webb Simpson close out the golf tournament. Dude, it really... He was... And he just, he's the needle. Golf Channel Tiger Tracker is the guy who, you know... He's a great follow. He's a funny... I would love to know who that is, but he's a funny follow.

And he actually got me into Sunday, because... it's like, don't worry that he can't win. There's FedEx Cup points out there. Because I just, I'm not necessarily a Tiger fan. I just want them in the mix. That's what I want. That's what I think everyone wants. They don't care if you like him or hate him.

You want them in the mix. But for them to show him warming up is like, it's just perfect. And you're just like, this guy. And the fact that he like, I told you, did I tell you, he played through me this year at medalist. I was playing medalist. Come on. With Driscoll.

Yeah, I did a podcast with Golf Digest for like 25 minutes. The guy's a fan of Sam Weinman, I believe his name is. He's a fan of spit in chicklets. And he's like, come on. So I told the story. I was at medalist. And we were playing with my buddy, James Driscoll. Massachusetts guy who played in the Masters as an amateur.

Great guy. He played it on PJ Tour for a long time. So we get to the course. Tiger's playing. He's like, he's been there the past few days, the night for at dinner. I'm like, please fucking be there. So we get there and having lunch. He just went off the back.

I'm like, oh, maybe he's just playing nine. So we go hit balls. We're teen off one. Sure enough, him and Duffner and Ahmad Rashad. They come up to the 18th toll. We can see him from first fairway. I'm like, please go to the first fairway. first tee, please go the first tee. Sure enough

he drives the first tee up, Mikey. Yeah! So we hit it up. We're up on the green and he pounds driver. He must have hit at 3.30. It's like a beautiful wedge onto the green. We're just to the side of the green waiting now. Duffler was in like the sand, the sand, green side bunker. Tiger walks up, I'm like, he's like,

what's up, guys, you're having fun? I'm like, holy fuck, yeah, we're having a great time. I'm just like staring at him. Stuttering. Dude, Duff hits this bunker shot to like 40 feet, just a trash shot. Tire goes, oh, nice shot. Duff, I'll give you a five, just pick it up. And Duff's like, can I at least try to make the put? He's like, no, let's go.

And Tiger just, like, had 30 feet. He nestled it up there just missed. And then we went to two and watched him just striped three wood on two. And he was gone. I was like, did that really just happen? But he was a good dude. Everyone said around that club, he used to treat people not at the highest level. He was, you know, a little standoffish.

He's never been that, has that rep being that friendly. And since he's kind of, I think that wasn't a DUI, whatever it was. Yeah, he's different now. He's just, I think he's realized, all right, I was at the bottom. and I got to climb up now and he's been treating people a different way, which is good to hear him. Yeah, and he's got the whole Phil thing going on where, you know, he and Phil played together to practice round of the masters. It's almost like Tiger's a different fucking person. How about if they put like on pay-per-view Phil versus Tiger and they had 10 million bucks like their own 10 million?

Would you not watch that? Yeah, like it's like a poker match where they put up their own money. Dude, go go to like. Who the fuck wouldn't watch that? Dude, how sick would that be off the charts? And they both like, dude, they lose 10 million. They don't give a shit. Like it's like I would love to see that.

But we'll see. I don't think it would really ever go down. They were trash talking, not really. playfully trash-tracking early in the week last week. Maybe they would do it. You never know. Tiger did give... The tour would be like,

I don't know if this is going to happen. That's the thing is they would have to do it outside of the tour, which would be great because it would be like you'd get this interesting dichotomy back and forth. Like who's trying to get the money grab, all that. They get like the stripper caddy girls you can get in like Vegas and it's just full pay-per-view. Just mono and Mono. Tiger's like, I'll take a Bigford's waitress that I know from a couple years back. And they're just miced up?

You kidding me? That would be... The fact that they don't miced those guys up when they play to. together or Tiger in general is crazy. Yeah, I would love to have mics. The same thing in hockey. If you could ever just get the, I mean, when you hear a player, at least as I'm a golf junkie, when you hear a player in an important shot in a tournament talking to his caddy, like, both

the wind of the bus. I love that. I love that stuff. I'm sure some people think it's painful, like when Speed's talking to growl or like, shut up and hit the ball. But I love that stuff. I think, I mean, honestly, it's great for the broadcast team, too, because they don't have to say a word for like two minutes straight.

They just keep those hot mics on. It's the worst when they talk over the cabbie and the players, like, shut the fuck the up. Right. They're commentating. They're actually doing the commentating. They're talking through the entire shot. They're setting the whole fucking thing up. They're doing what Bones gets paid to do now. They're just doing it on there. Phil's shirt.

Oh, my God. We got to talk about Phil's shirt. The Miss and Maine guys. Just, I mean, yeah, if you want to wear it into a business meeting, dude, I'm sure it looks and feels great to have it on. It was like 90 degrees. He's got a long-sleeved dress shirt on. Just my buddy actually, my buddy, Jay Driscoll, I'll show him out. he's like, dude, they make really nice shirts. I'm like, you're not for golf, Jay.

Like, he's like, yeah, I know, I'm just saying they're really nice shirts if you want to wear him and wear it to work. He's like, all right, well, he's out at the, he's out at sawgrass striping through it around. He looks like, it actually looks like, like Ben Hogan, and then when these two were ties, or that was before Ben Hogan, back in the day, golf. So I wrote the blog that, okay,

when he first rocked this thing, it was the practice round of the Masters, when him and Tiger played together. Yep. And all those pictures went viral. People were like, Phil, what the fuck are you doing? Tiger chirped him afterwards. this time he had the jump man, his stupid jump man logo.

The inch man. Yeah, right, the two-inch jump man. On the cuff, a little bit too big, so it looks stupid. And it's just so bad that it's good. It's literally, it's like... The internet, it causes an incredible stir on the... It's honestly, this is what I wrote in the blog. It's that, like, when you go to an ugly Christmas sweater party,

the person with the worst one has the best one. It was the same type of deal with that shirt. The shirt is so... But nobody else is trying to look like that. The shirt was so brutal. so brutal that it's just awesome. Everyone's out there, like, they're nicest, their companies are giving them the best-looking thing,

and Phil's like, I'm going to put on this fucking shirt and look like an idiot. Well, I love Phil. I'm like, I didn't like him before, and now he's just like the past, I don't know, five, six years, I've become a huge Phil guy. I'm with you. And part of it, I think he's, like, trolling people.

I swear to go, with the leather jacket on Farity, unless he thinks these look good, part of me is like, I'm just going to, like, just fuck with people right now. Because people say he's a sarcastic dude. He's, like, nonstop with the chirps. I'm like, he can't really think this looks good. And the Inchman logo, that's kind of a troll in itself.

Like, I think I look cool here. He gets it. But I clearly gets it to some degree. But I also think he, like, thinks he looks good or different. I don't know. Isn't it weird that we all did that transformation with Phil? I used to fucking hate Phil. Yeah, it's funny how that happened.

I think it happened with Sergio, too, even to a kind of a lesser degree. But I remember my dad, he watches the majors. He's not, you know, a diehard golf fan. He couldn't stand Phil. And then just lately, it's just we've all kind of just switched over. I think him went in the open in, what was that? Where did he win that? Mirfield, I think.

That was kind of like... 2013. What do you shoot, 66 on Sunday. Yeah, that was the greatest round of golf he, uh, bones ever saw play. But that was, that was sick. So, yeah, I'm a Phil guy now, and he seems like he just cracks me up with that shirt, dude. Give you a head of shake, Phil. Oh, Phil.

I love Phil. I don't know. It's just... It's got to be something where when Tiger trailed off and we needed somebody to just rally around who's, like, a great generational player. And Phil is the guy, and he's dopey and he's a dad. And we're all getting older. Such a goof. And he's so sick, dude.

Like the shots he makes. That's the coolest thing. Like the shots he makes, they're not just like darts from the fairway. He's curving it around trees and hitting it out of the pine straw. He's just such a fun player to watch. He's great. And he's one of those guys, too. They always say, like, well, you would never teach his swing.

But, you know, and then it's like, okay. He's maybe played the second greatest golf that's ever been played, really, because he got dominated by the Tiger Air. It's still won five fucking majors. He'll probably win when he's 50, dude. I mean, he has a swing that's just, He's got the Freddie couples, like loopy, kind of long type swing. Duff Daddy, we already talked about a little bit.

Your nice little story where Tiger was dusting him made him pick up, make bogey. Are we talking the money thing? We're talking the money thing, too. This is the dumbest thing, I think. That's how golf tournaments work. I mean, if you missed a put on Monday, I mean, I'm sorry, Thursday afternoon, it's just like you're not given the check until the tournament ends. Every single shots accounted for.

So the fact that he, like, misses this putt, you could say he missed a put on Thursday that mattered. So his comment, that's basically what he said. He tweeted out, everybody wants to talk about the three feet I missed on the last hole. Nobody wants to talk about the 270 feet of putts that I made that put me into that position. He putted well all week. So he kind of chirped everybody about that. To kind of provide the stats against it, though, down the stretch, he missed a five-footer for birdie on 12. He missed a 12-footer on 13, 19-footer on 14, 13-footer on 15, reached the par 5-16th and 2.

Proceeded to 3-put from 26 feet for par. He missed a 7-foot birdie putt on 17, and then three-putted from 17 feet on 18. So the putting in the back nine was horrific. I mean, he's battled, dude, he's battled that stuff before. Even when he wanted O'Kill. Yes, he was standing over. And it's not from, usually seven feet, he's fine. He has a two-footer, and he stands over and you're like, way too long.

You're like, well, actually, some of the putts on the back-line yesterday, one of them might have been the 13-footed. You said it was like two feet short, like uphill 13-foot. So there's definitely some mental issues there. On greens that are like lightning. It's just crazy. I mean, these guys have the same sort of like putting woes and thoughts that regular players can have. It's a scary thing.

I get why Duffner's mad. He's kind of like, everybody's talking about like, hey, here's all this money you could have had. But also, and our coworker Nate has been blogging about this for a couple weeks now where it would be cool to have a graphic to show like if he misses this putt, he's going to lose X amount of money or like all that. Yeah, the only thing I think Nate's off with on that is that, like the reason you would show it is because you would want to kind of feel like the guy has the pressure. And the guy doesn't fucking know that. He's not thinking in his brain. Unless you're the last... Unless you're the last group, but if you're doing that with a group with five groups behind you,

it depends on what those guys end up doing to create the money payment in how you finish the tournament. So it is... I mean, it is cool to know, but if it's not the last group, you're right, it's like you're not... Unless you're fucking will hunting out there. Like, you don't know, you know what I mean? Unless you're just hunting down checks in the entire... I mean, Duff's at the point where he's not like, oh my God, I got to make sure I finish fourth here. I want to win, but I want to finish fourth

because the top five gives me back. I mean, he's in everything he needs to be in. Right. He's in good shape. Even, like, with his putting, when he did win the PGA, he was hitting the ball. Remember he hit his wedges so close, he didn't even have to putt. But he was hitting back nine. He was hitting driver center cut the whole week. Right. Right. So he's a guy, you got to watch him with the putter down the stretch. J.T.

Number one in the world. It's about fucking time. The fact that J.T. wasn't number one of the world. Golf ring is strange that way. It feels like he's, I mean, he's been the most dominant player on the planet for a while. The stats for him are he's won seven of his last 36 starts with 17 top 10 finishes. This includes a major championship, obviously the PGA at Quill Hollow last year, a 59 that he shot in Hawaii. I think that was at the Sony Open when he won there. 63 he shot at the U.S. Open that included the three wood from 301 on this 18th hole on Saturday.

And he canned the pot. Shout to Johnny Miller. Shout out to my best man. Did you want to talk about Johnny Miller? He was a dick yesterday. Johnny Miller's comment when he did shoot that 63 was that's pretty good for the next. Milwaukee Open is what he said about the Aaron Hill 63, which is the best. And then this JT run also includes a FedEx Cup win.

So, again, the fact that he wasn't number one earlier. Well, it just shows the official world golf rankings are a joke. I mean, it's like, I don't know how they figure stuff out. You see, when Kepko was out, he kept rising. It's just, it makes no sense. I would think nobody would argue that he's the number one golf player in the world right now. He has been. But in terms of like when people actually take over the number one and lose it,

it's pretty goofy if you ask me. think most people even know how they figure it out. That's why it's really stupid is because, like, DJ was the best, but then it became pretty clear that, like, okay, now JT's the best, he's on the best run, and then it feels like it took six months too late. She feels a vote, like, every month, every month. That should be... Yeah, because what it is now, it's some sort of, like, NASA equation that nobody fucking knows.

Or the vote should be factored into the algorithm or something like that. It should be, like, it should be able to change more so than just the numbers have it. But forever you can say you were number one in the world. Let me ask you this. We never had John to talk about all the JT drama with Dave's shit on him for getting the guy kicked out for y'all and getting the bunker where are your thoughts on that oh i i mean i like watching justin thomas golf but that was a tough tough look for him i just thought it was the softest i i'm kind of someone who hates like the new age golfers that are like so soft and like

our best friends and rickie's waiting for his buddies after they win like i'm kind of a fan of like if i don't win i'm pissed off i understand where it comes from but in terms of like how soft thomas looked in that dude put it this way if dj had done that and striped an iron down. I think it was 16 at, or 17 at what, uh, 16 at, uh, I think it was the 15th or 16th. Yeah, I think it was 16. It was on the T on 16. And, and so the guy yells getting the bunker. It wasn't in his swing. The ball was in the air. Thomas knew it was going to be nice. It didn't go in the bunker, did it? I don't think so. He ended up holding on the middle of fairway. Either way. Like, you're telling me, DJ wouldn't say anything, but if he did, he'd

probably turn around, be like, nah, dude, it's in the middle of the fairway. Like, just, like, have a little balls on you. And then the worst part was, um, um, was that he ended up, like, changing it, and then deciding that he was going to, all right, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done it. It was only after he got ripped by the entire public. For like 12 hours straight, he got ripped. Dave ripped him, and then he kind of did this weird apology, which you knew wasn't genuine. I don't want to heartburn it again because we've talked about it a million times, but I was just curious your thoughts. No, yeah.

Pro-apply. Soft look. But I do like watching him play to these machines. And we're kind of torn because we're like, you don't want to be roasting this guy because he's probably the best player in the world. And we're never getting him on. Right. And it's like, oh, fuck, but he's never going to want to come on. When Dave Portnoy does it, he's not coming on anyway.

Yeah, and the other thing is, like, we wouldn't be bars still if we censored everything that we say because we're afraid guys won't come on. Like, that's just what we fucking do. Have you noticed Justin Thomas has been on, like, a weird PR thing the last couple weeks that the Wells Fargo, he did the help the guy with his proposal. I don't know if he's the wedding proposal. I don't know if you saw that guy doing. That's how you want to propose to your girl. That was the worst. Imagine how pissed off the girl is?

Like, what are you talking about? We're going to have a guy. Like, what are you doing? It's about me. She's like, I want to rather marry him anyway. It's out of my face. That was just a tough look for that guy. And then this weekend he pulled like a kid out of the crowd and had him hit a shot on 16 or 17.

I'm not saying he's like doing that on purpose, but it sure seems like he's. Seems like you're staying woke on it. He's trying to like rebuild. He's pretty woke on JT. Okay. I'm on to Justin Thomas. He wants people to like him again. I mean, I think he took a tough hit on that.

That was not a good look for him. And people, every time he does one of these proposals or things on 17, people are like, well, now don't you like him? Do you like him now? I'm like, no, I see what he's doing. So I like him less. Let's get into Johnny Miller. We've talked about Johnny Miller before. I think Johnny Miller is crucial to every broadcast in golf.

He makes it infinitely better to watch. He had a couple great lines, a couple incredible lines yesterday. First of all, he started the broadcast by saying that Jack Nicholas wasn't very comfortable with a lead and then finished it by saying I was actually a really good frontrunner. And then as they were talking about Phil Mickelson, I think it was 07 when Phil won at the players on the 10th hole. He was in the left bunker. He had to hit it through some trees. Bonesy was his caddy, of course.

he hits it through and Phil kind of doing his Phil thing he hits it through this small little gap onto the green walks over and he goes Bones I didn't want to tell you about the gap I had it didn't want to tell you Bones is telling the anecdote being like he said it was the size of a car window and then Johnny finishes it by going well Phil took his car back to the airport on Friday this week though He's looking at a shirt

I mean I'm a fan too you hate him I hate him so you would rather listen to Nick Faldo than Johnny Miller because that's for me all you have to say I just think he's a dick for like you can be like an interesting broadcaster and not have to be an asshole. Like I think those are two different things. But by being as good as he was and now granted, he doesn't ever bring up that dude, he legitimately

had the putting yips. He couldn't putting yips. He could putting his eyes. He's putting his eyes closed. But he was one of the all-time, I mean, all-time great just crazy, but he was an incredible Hall of Fame golfer. For sure. So he has the ability to just talk as much shit as he wants because he's been there and done that. Well, he acts like he's won, he won double-digit majors and he won two of them. Yeah.

He does. He is. He is entertaining. I will say. He is Shooter McGavin, except he's in the booth and he's got two majors. I've come around a little bit on it because he is entertaining. And my thing now, I just, I'm trying to figure out how much his coworkers hate him. Because I'm pretty sure Roger Malpe would take him in the parking lot right now and, like, beat the shit of him. You think so?

Yes, because yesterday Webb Simpson was about to hit a shot. And Johnny Miller just says, oh, this guy's got nerves. We'll see what happens here. Webb Simpson stuffs it. And Malpe goes, well, I think that answers that question, Johnny. So I think, like, they hate each other, but they can't yell at each other. So it's like golf beef. And it's one of my favorite things to follow during the broadcast.

So I've been going back, once again, I hooked up WIT. So my new development is I hooked up my YouTube to my Xbox One. So I get to just browse YouTube on my TV instead of Netflix. And YouTube allows you before you can go watch like any golf replay ever. You don't have a smart TV with YouTube connected to it? No, I'm not good enough. Come on, bro. So anyways, I watch all these golf highlights.

And it's amazing that you go back through. I was watching like Shinnecaco 4 trying to get. jacked up for that. And Johnny Miller's, you know, he's there talking about those. And he's the same fucking way. He's just like, well, he's got a tough lie on the rough here. But if you hit it this way, I've done it before. If you hit it that way, he's just talking about it. Every putt is straight too. Every putt is straight. It looks pretty straight to me. He always goes, it's not a very difficult putt. And you're like, dude, Johnny, you couldn't make a three-footer at the end of your career. What are you talking with this? This isn't a difficult put. See, but he knows that. I'm pretty sure nobody knows

that except like pretty hardcore golf fans. So he's. can just talk shit. I agree. And then, like, nobody knows that he had the yips for, like, a decade. He definitely thinks nobody listening knows that he couldn't putt. Oh, yeah, he's like, nobody knows. Nobody knows. There's no, I want two majors.

And he'll, he'll have a 27-foot putt, and he'll be like, this a pretty easy putt. Yeah, he's very makeable. Just up the hill, it's like a three-foot slider, left to right, he's a right-y-putter. And then they put the percentage on? It's like, make percentage, 3%. You're like, what do you mean? It's an easy putt, dude. Like, nobody makes this putt.

It's funny. you mention watching old golf because I love watching old golf. My house is NHL Network where I work. You know, I got to keep up on that when I'm not there. And Golf Channel and Golf. So my wife's used to it. But then when the old classics are on and I'm watching like the, whatever, the U.S. Open at Oakland Hills when T.C. Chen double-chipped it in like the 80s.

She's like, get this off the TV. But I could watch Old Golf all the time. And it's like Golf Channel puts on these terrible trash movies, like the squeeze. They should have, every night they don't have a show on Golf Channel. It should be like, you know, an old final round of a U.S. Open. I don't understand why they, maybe it's the rights of the networks, but they don't show enough like old golf classic rounds for me. And promote it and everybody would then live tweet it like it was happening. Like that would be, people would be so into it.

Remember when the Masters, like two weeks before the Masters? And there was this big announcement that they dumped the last 50 final rounds, the full broadcast on YouTube. and everybody was going crazy over and watching them all the time. So the USGA, that's why I've been scouring the USGA's YouTube channel, and I will say credit to them, and also the USDA loves us. So we're pro-USGA-people. All right, USGA, what up? We got credentials for the Open, no big deal.

We're playing Shinnecock next week, no big deal. I've played that place. Track. National's better, though. Really? National Golf Links is better, yeah. Yeah, I've heard. So I got a couple buddies.

I got one buddy who's played like every course you could imagine. Really, really good player. one of the better players at Harvard Golf played like Augusta, Pabble, old course, Shinnie, and he says Shinnies his favorite course in the world. Yeah, it's right. It's sick, dude.

You'll love it. I'm so jacked up for this year's U.S. Open. But anyways, the U.S.G.A, if you go on to their YouTube channel, they did do like the last three U.S. Open. So DJ Oakmont, or no, Spieth, Speeth Chambers,

DJ, Ockmont, and then obviously last year in Hales and Brooks Kevka, they did like a whole hour production, like kind of reliving the whole thing and they're fucking good. So everybody out there, go on to YouTube, going to USGA's channel, last three

are very good. This week we got the Byron Nelson. Nobody gets that checked up for the buyer Nelson, except it's at Trinity Forest this year, which is a brand new track. Well, pretty new track. This is a core Crenshaw, and it's like a big deviation

from the tour, from typical tour event, typical tour venues. It's supposed to be firm, fast, no trees, designed to be windy. It's got like the, what is it like, I don't know if it's the 007, the type of turf

that they're using now that's like supposed to play lynx-like conditions in non-typical, like, lynxie environments. Dude, I love Core Crenshaw. One of the tracks I played at home, Old Sandwich, Core Crenshaw, that is just fun. I didn't know old sandwich is a core Crenshaw. Yeah, and it's so sick.

Linksy, there's Fescue, just so much different variety, got to hit all the shots. So I didn't know that that course is CoreCrenshaw. That actually makes me want to watch more So I think a lot of people out there when you tune into this for even like Thursday, you're going to look and it's going to be really fucking different. It's supposed to play firm, fast. Again, it's like kind of the minimalist old school type golf that a lot of, you follow the architecture geeks and all those guys on Twitter that they kind of hoot and holler. This is like a big week for them because they want the course to stand up.

I saw already they're kind of bitching that tour reports are that the tour like drenched the place with water because players were bitching already. other people were saying that maybe it was just because it's Dallas and if you look at the forecast it'd be like 100 degrees on two of the four days. A lot of driving irons this week, I'm sure, for those guys. Oh, yeah. Smokin' not Webb Simpson. He'll be hitting his 19 hybrid. His hybrid that's a seven iron.

But again, if you turn on your TV, you're checking it out, you want to look at something different. This is kind of a monumental weekend, I guess, on the tour for course architecture, that type of shit. We're not geniuses. We're not experts on that stuff. We dabble a little bit and kind of find it interesting. Let's move into a couple, just a couple from the galleries from some fans. First one, we got Mike who says, if the players is the fifth major, what's the sixth major? That's a great question.

I thought that was a really good question. Trent Daddy, you got. John Deere Classic for sure. That's the one. Get this man back to Iowa, dude. TPC Deer one, baby. You're a little homesick there, Trent Day. A little bit, yeah.

That's where Sveith's career took off. That's right. That was amazing. That's where Stricker and Zach Johnson just go back and forth winning that thing every year. They've won like 14 to the last 16. For real. Yeah, Strickrower won a four and he, didn't he win it four years in a row?

He won three years in a row. Three years in a row and then Zach won, I think, two. It's just the Midwest is they are the most John here. You know, Zach Johnson blocked me on Twitter years ago? No way. Yeah. The only person I know that's blocked me tweeted out, I love my wife or my wife's the best, and I retreated everyone.

What a nerd. And then I looked and I'm blocked by him, yeah. I have to respect that guy's game, though. He's got to shave it up top, I think. He's a great golfer. He's got bad hair, and so we're from the same place, Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Just friendly people. We're very friendly people, and he's a big Bible guy.

So, like, it's just like I'm from Cedar Rapids. He's from Cedar Rapids. I root for him, but we have, like, a weird, like, he's not the type of guy you want to root for. Well, he's not, like, I don't think you're crushing beers, like, shooting the shit with him about much, but still, what a career. But, yeah, John Deere Classic. I'm interested in this question. What's yours?

I would have to say the Tour Championship. Yeah, I know, but it's 30 people, so I just don't, I don't know. Yeah, but then if you're not going to, you know, I guess you could get into maybe one of the WGCs or something, but those are kind of like artificial, it feels like and kind of stupid, and they're only what, they're like 60 people, 60, 70 guys, they're not the 156. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I love, I don't think it's by any means the sixth major, is that's what we're saying, but, dude, the tournament of champions, I know I just chirped the small field, but in Capilua,

like, it's January, and you're like, You miss golf so much midwinter for us, Muppets in the Northeast. And it's in prime time on TV. I played there. I went there. So now it's even better because I'm like, oh, my God, that shot, that guy made it look so easy. So that one I love watching Capulah. Is that corkron shot, too?

It's somebody. It plays like one. If it's not, it could be. That's a good question. I'm trying to think other tournaments. I've gotten into the match play in Austin lately. I really liked watching that. That course is incredibly fun to watch.

I want to play there. That's University. Texas's course? No, that's just Austin Country Club, I think it's Austin Country Club, with the bridge and it's right by the lake right there. Looks fun as shit. That course is one of my favorite to watch. Yeah, I would put those up there in terms of those are probably my two favorite to watch because the ball plays differently too. Like at Capulua, they're hitting these crazy shots. They hit a lot of runner shots. On 18, it's like $6.50, but they can all reach it because it's such a

Yeah, it's downhill and they just, yeah, exactly. That place is sick. I think that's a good question. I'd be interested to see what a lot of people have. there's probably some events that we're not thinking about. I know. I'm trying to think of like kind of after the open championship before the PGA, like what guys are you getting ready. I mean, in a couple weeks we got the memorial, which is Jack's tournament. Love the Memorial.

Which is a big one. That's a great one. That is a good one. That's a big one. That is a big one. In Columbus, that place. And that course is awesome. Obviously, you get Jack by the Corrine.

I mean, I think the Arnold Palmer Invitational used to be up there. But then when you lose Arnie, like that inherently it just loses some of its gusts though. But guys playing have been good. Like Rory. Right. You know, so that actually is fun to watch, haven't played there as well. For me, it's places I played at least. I'm just like, oh, my God, because I know what that looks like, and they make it look so easy.

Like, this is a different sport. And it's incredible. So we had, I went down, played Bay Hill in December with a couple buddies. And one of the guys I was with us, it was his first time playing. He just got into golf like three or four years ago. So he's down to, like, a 14 handicap or something. And he's got the bug. He's fucking obsessed.

And this was the first time he'd ever played a course that they would then play on the tour. and he was texting us on the group nonstop during the tournament. Yeah, shut up, dude. Remember when I made Fogie there? Remember when I did this? Remember when you made a triple on that hole? And then he'd go silent for five holes or it would be like, Dougie, you made like a nine there, dude.

Whatever. But it does. It changes the whole experience when you've seen a place. The bug is a real thing, too. Oh, he's got the bug. People don't understand that, like, don't play golf, that it's a known thing that you get the bug and you, a lot of times are forever obsessed with it.

Forever. And he's, oh, he's there. He can't stop texting us about it. Next guy asks, this is Jonathan, who says, is it a bender move to use a rubber range tea on the course when playing 18 holes? I would slap someone in the case if they'd go out of rubber range tea. Like, how about the, like, cone ones? Have you seen those ones? Those are good for indoor golf because they don't break it, whatever, but still, like, dude, whip that out on the course and I'm out of there.

I'm leaving. So this guy, his point was he was like, now I know that sounds stupid, bear with me. And he's like, I don't feel like I get the same height every time I tee it up. It's always a little different, and I know that the rubber tea from the range is the exact same height every time. That's not a good enough. Put your driver next to the ball and know where you like to have the driver sitting and then tee the thing up with a wooden. I don't even use plastic teas. I'm a strictly wooden tea guy.

Yep. So, Jonathan, the quick answer is yes. You're an absolute fucking bender. You're a bender, dude. You're a ranger, dude. Go play with Frankie. Of course. Alexander asked what's your guys thoughts on the 15-inch cup.

This has been proposed a couple times. Just like, what is the normal cup, like three and a quarter or something like that? This is obviously 15 inch, so much bigger cup. The theory is that it's more fun and speeds up pace of play. I think this is, again, a horrific bender move. Is this a, does courses have that? Not like, so what some courses will do is they'll put it in on one hole just to like kind of experiment to make it fun. Yeah.

We did, you know, I was playing with is Paul Mary. Oh, yeah, Bob. Jet, so Kyle Polmerie. What's he at, Devaston. Wallston Golf Club members. This is it, Wallston. That's okay. You've been yelling.

We bought all the yell. I'm a big yell or two. We were up at Granite Links one time, and we go up, and they had, it was like a, it was a Monday, so they had an outing or whatever. And one of the whole, seventh hole, which is like a drivable, seventh hole on Milton, which is like a drivable par four. And we're having a good match, and it was like our third to last hole of the day. And we get up to the green, and Jet, Jeremy Morin's got like 15 feet for Eagle. He had an unbelievable tee shot. We get on the cup is fucking, like, two feet in diameter.

And Paul Mary lost his mind. He's like, what are you fucking? talking about so jet just buries it right in the heart huge cellie he's like let's go dude that's count it that i mean that's up but i would dude that's like when i went like i didn't really play golf but like if i ever did like with my dad when i was younger like i'd be like i'm just going to take a drop or i'm going to move it and he's like all right that's fine but you're not playing golf anymore like right yeah it changes golf dude the cup's a certain size you can't make it a huge cup and the trip jet would try saying he made an eagle after pulling it in a basketball

I think I still have the video somewhere. We got up there. It was twice the size of a basketball. I mean, it was the biggest hole you've ever seen. And we were like, what are we supposed to do? Jets's like, what do you want me to do? Jets got a good game, too. He can play.

Oh, he does have a good game. So we got another one. This guy, BJ. This is kind of a, of course, his name's BJ. Laugh-all-a-lop funny. He said, this is kind of a situation that we've all come across. So he said he's sitting there. He's like 270 out on a par five, a little bit downhill.

He's got a hybrid in his hands. a bunch of old ladies playing in front of him, like 50-year-old ladies. And he's standing there, and there's a group waiting on the tee behind him. So he's waiting. He's like, I think I should wait. His buddy chirps him. He's like, dude, you're never going to get there. You're being the asshole.

It's holding up the whole golf course. Fine. Flushes it. Lands on the green. Skips right by one of the ladies. The ladies are all freaking out yelling. He said they went on to play as slow as possible in front of them to slow them up the whole day. What's the situation?

What do you do? The reason I brought it up is because this is such a classic, like, I think 99% of the time you just hit it and get the hell out of the way. If you hit a really good one, you just kind of apologize. Yeah, if you, it was a part four? Par five, he's 280 out.

Dude, I mean, you go up and say, listen, I was just 280 out. If I do that a hundred times, maybe once I hit the green, I apologize. If they're going to be old miserable fucking donkeys about it, then just, you know,

just keep bombing balls into them. I guess at that point, you're in a war with some old women, but that's, I mean, same thing, if you drive a par four and you're like, there's a slim chance, I'm going to go for it and it gets there.

I mean, at most it's rolling up their feet. It's not like you're like ripping a driver like into their group. It's a classic damned if you do, damned if you don't situation because like you're always the asshole that stands there and waits and then tops one, right? Oh, if you wait and people are like, dude, you're not going to get there. There's pretty much no chance you're going to get there. But then if you do, you're just like suck on that one. You see that thing rolling up to the pin? Right. So it's a tough spot. It's a really tough spot. This breaking the action is brought to you by our good friends at Lightstream. Are you paying more money and interest than you need to on your credit cards?

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Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot. I forgot. I had. Glad that that question sparked this. So, so because I just, I was just taken, we went away, I mean, a group of buddies that I go away with every year. This year we did Pinehurst.

And I told them the story. I went to Pinehurst like five years ago. And there's one of the top amateur tournaments in the country is the North South Amateur at Pinehurst. Yeah. And we happened to be playing there that day in the afternoon the day of the final round of the north south amateur. It might have been the final round,

day of like metal play before they got into the match play. So have you played number two? Nope. The range is kind of over in like the middle and then, you know, right to the left of the range is the 18th fairway and, you know, behind where you're hitting range balls, there's the 18th green and it's the walk from the range to the first tee is basically, you know, right through if you're, you know, fly like an eagle would, you'd go right through the 18th green. Okay.

Now there's like people like putty. There's a practice chipping green like a putting green and we've been drinking. It's our second round. We played number eight in the morning. So number two, I just hit a couple balls to warm up. And then I see my buddies on the first tee. And so I just started walking. And I saw this big green.

I thought it was like a putting green. And so I just started walking. And I got my bag over to the first tee where there's another putting green next to the 18th green. I should have probably known that. Dude, I'm walking. All of a sudden, I'm like, oh, dude, a ball hit my right rib. I was like, oh, my God. I look back.

There's probably 10 people in the fairway. These are college golfers or elite amateur golfers Dude the kid was hitting his approach out into 18 And I was on the green He buried me in the ribbon and went to the bunker And the whole fairways like, what the fuck? And I was like, oh my God So I just like kept walking and like went over the first tee

And then I get over people are looking at me The kid's hitting his bunker shot Like he didn't get to replay the shot I'm like I wonder I wonder if hopefully the listener out there Will like know is the result Because some kid has to be like dude That was me I fucking I hit us

dart into the 18th green at number two and I hit some tall goofy bastard in the rim of the north southamara dude some kid has been telling the other end of that fucking story I might have ruined his career I'm like I might ruin the kid's career he's gonna find out it's Ryan Whitney I took it in the side he doesn't get up and down from the bunker misses the match play by one shot and he's just been a complete he's a homeless guy he's been a junkie since that's because I was drunk walking to the first four motherfucker has been like does anybody know this goofy yeah who the hell was that pal that pale tall bastard walking across the 18th green.

So I don't remember the year. It might have been even six, seven years ago, but I had to tell that. I was like, you'll get a kick out of that one. Oh, that's awesome. I've never done Piners. It's on my list. Oh, dude.

Midpines, pine needles right around there. Number two and number eight are kind of the only two courses at Pinehurst worth playing, but then they have the new cradle, which is the, we didn't get to play it, which sucks, but the place is just golf, golf heaven. I think Gilly just redid the number four, too. It's almost done. Who's Gilly? Gilhands.

Oh, you call him Gilly? Oh, yeah. We had them on the show. Okay, okay. Anybody who's on the show gets a... So, he's... Kids. Gilly, you know, we got different nicknames.

I'll take Witt. I'll take Witt. I like that. Gilly did Boston Golf, where I used to be a member. And I went to Old Sandwich last year, but he... I mean, he designs his beautiful courses. It's just... He's one of the best.

He's the man. Have you done Bandon? I have done Bandon. Bannon was... Bannon was right up there. We did Northern Ireland and Ireland. the same group and I liked it a little more like Port Rush

where the Open Championships coming in. We were playing there. I think I was in a group with Commodore, Henrik Zetterberg, and Jacob Markstrom, who's the goalie for the Canucks. And we were struggling, doing it's hard, hard track, like just Fescue, built up, burn, there's not much rough. You hit it off the fairway, it's basically

gone. And so we're on like the 10th T and all of us, you know, we're like seven over if we're playing good. It's no one's playing well. This was probably five years ago, too. And the caddy's like, you want to feel worse about yourself? I'm like, yeah, sure. He's like, Rory McElroy shot a 60 here from the backtees. We were playing

the one-ups when he was 12 years old. So I'm like, oh my God. So that was actually, that beat Bandon in terms of we played Royal County Down. We played Port Rush. We played Port Stewart. But after that, Bandon was kind of like, I played Cyprus, but that Spanin' Trip is number two. I was there a week and a half

ago, and it was the best, it was the best golf destination I've been to so far. It's so sick. Just all things included. How was your hoop, though, after walking that many holes every day? We legitimately. They sell butt paste. And you're just like, dude, you're like limping around. You're like, dude, this chafing's ridiculous.

The chafing's absurd. The firmness of the ground is unlike anything else. So your feet are just, they're just beat to shit. So we took the, we drove up to Eugene, then connected to San Francisco and then took the red eye home like six hours. Oh, my God. And when I landed, I couldn't get up in the airplane. I couldn't stand up.

That would be like you played like 10 hockey games in eight days. Like, it's almost hard. harder on your body. That's how it felt. It was nuts. And people were chirping me like, what happened to you? I was playing golf all weekend. Yeah, you got issues. I was like, well, band in there. They're like, yeah, you're a pussy. All right. All right, we appreciate it. Spitting Shacklets.

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