Fore Play - WGC-Dell Technologies Match Play Week 2017 w/ Shooter McGavin

Episode Date: March 21, 2017

Riggs and Trent talk going viral AF in Times Square, the Arnold Palmer Invitational, throwing putters off cliffs, and preview the WGC-Dell Technologies Match Play tourney this weekend. Plus, an exclusive interview with the man behind the famous @ShooterMcGavin_ account on Twitter!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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I think they should do this more. If we're being completely honest, I know we're going to talk about it later. The more matchplay, the better. People fucking love match play. People love it. And we've said, too, that it makes a lot more sense that people are very into the writer cup, the president's cup, the match play, because that's what people play when they go play with their buddies in the weekend. It's more relatable.

People love it. You're very rarely just going out there grinding out. stroke play against your buddy. You're usually playing a match. That would suck if that's what you're doing. You have a problem and you're taking everything way too seriously if that's what you do on the reg. If you do it occasionally, that's fine.

But anyway, match play week. We're going to get into that as per usual at the end of the podcast. I want to go through a couple of my don't say words. How did you do last week? Do you have any idea? So I did better on the things that I knew beforehand. The one thing that I didn't was just saying love that all the time. Okay.

because we had already recorded the interview and apparently I said love that nine times in the interview. So that's priority number one is don't say any rendition of love that. Love this, love that. Okay. And I think we just generally say that we agree with each other too much. Yeah, that's probably true. So that's another thing just saying agreed.

So that's still on there is like, fuck, insane. Those are the other three on there. Okay. So we're trying to say those as much we possibly can. Anyway, big week for us. The biggest week in Foreplay history, there's only been eight of them, but this is by far, this last week was a goddamn storm of publicity for your boys. We went viral as fuck.

There's an F-bob already on Tuesday, right after, really, we recorded the podcast. We people maybe don't realize, but we went to bed or I left the office. You and Rob slept here. Me and Rob stayed. We did not cuddle. I stayed in CEO Erica's office, and Rob crashed on the couch, which was nice. It was nice. We watched some, like, watch some wrestling together, which was weird for me.

Yeah, we did The Bachelor, and then we did Monday Night Raw, back to back. Instantly, by the way, Rob was not fucking around with the remote. As soon as the Bachelor was over, he didn't even ask me like, hey, do you want to watch wrestling? The wrestling was on the TV. He was on. He shot Bachelor right down. Shut it down. No, but we, I think he probably did not enjoy it.

But he was, yeah, as soon as it was over, he's like, I'm changing the channel. So the blizzard was highly anticipated. People were going nuts. Thousands and thousands of flights canceled. Stella. Stella. That's the name. I always figure the name.

Stella. So we had this big elaborate plan. We're going to wake up early in the morning when we think the blizzard's going to be worse. We want it to be dark out. We're just going to go film a stupid little promo video for the week when there's a bunch of snow on the ground. The original idea was for it to be two minutes. And we were thought mostly it was going to be B-roll. And we were just going to go out here on Broadway,

hit a couple of balls like, ha, look at these guys. They're playing in the snow after they were just on vacation. We're going to pack it up and go home. It turned into something a lot more than that. Yeah, so we decided to take a cab to Times Square. Like, oh, we'll get a couple shots up there.

We really, people keep asking, you know, oh, did you guys take the photo? How come they're not crediting you on the photo? Why are they, why isn't Robbie Fox getting credit for the photo? We had no idea. People were even really taking professional pictures. People have to understand that. New York in general.

in the middle of the night is a bizarre place. There's all sorts of artsy, weirdo folks walking around, taking pictures in any given moment, the Blizzard especially. So we saw a bunch of, you know, everything from hipsters to whatever. Before we went to Times Square, we were standing on Broadway.

There was a guy in the middle of the street. He almost got hit by three cars. I am new to this. I didn't know this phenomenon of photographers being out in the storm. You guys are like, yeah, that's what they do. And then we went to Times Square and there were a whole bunch more. This guy was standing in the middle of the street,

like whenever a car would drive, up. He was pissed that the cars were driving up. Like, what the fuck are you guys doing? I'm standing here taking pictures. It's the other way around, pal. Middle of Broadway. Like Broadway and 27th or whatever it was. So anyway, so we went over to Times Square. We shot our video, kind of minding our business. A company people said, you know, are you guys going to be here doing this for a while or yeah, sure, whatever. We're trying to film our video and go to bed. It's cold as fuck outside. 4.45 in the morning, 5 a.m. cold, blizzarding. We're just trying to get a couple good shots on video. We don't really care, whatever, leave us alone. Go home about

what, 6 a.m. Yep. Go to bed. Wake up. And phone was going nuts. So I woke up at like probably 8.30. Just kind of one of those like, oh, I'm going to fall back in sleep here in about two seconds. And in those two seconds, I always check Twitter because I'm an addict to social media.

And I saw the Daily Mail one. And I was like, that's fucking awesome. That's awesome. I'm going to throw a retweet on that. And if nothing else, we can be like, isn't it pretty cool that Daily Mail caught us out there and we put the picture up? and then so I hit the retweet button falsely for about an hour wake up it's like the world changed it was it was wild I didn't expect that like I said we just thought it was some random you know schlub taking pictures like yeah whatever pal turns out I was AP photographer it went nuts people were calling us many things morons two morons I think we got called men men many times idiots men morons uh lunatics maybe It might have been one of them. A lot of words for us.

Not a lot of barstool connection when the photograph first came out of. Now, everyone's like, well, what did you guys wear a bunch of merch? We don't sell ski coats. And also, I'm glad you brought that up. I fucking hate these people who are saying, why aren't you wearing barstool merch? Why aren't you wearing barstool much? A couple things. One, we didn't think we were going to go viral city all over the world.

So we weren't really even thinking about it. We were wearing hats. We had the barstle hats on. Like I said, we don't sell ski coats. Yeah. And we didn't even notice people were taking pictures. No, the guy did not identify and stuff like, hey, I'm AP, this is going to go wild tomorrow.

He doesn't wear a flag. No, he does not. And also, if we had thought about it, the more I think about it now, wearing barstool stuff mightn't have hindered the photo from going so viral. Because when people see barstool, they turn away and they don't want to see it. Us looking like normal Joe's kind of Trojan horse duss into the viral market. If we had on the barstool polo, barstool joggers, barstool shoes, Saturdays for the boys' towels flying off our bags in the back of our heads,

no chance that photo goes anywhere. You would have never heard about it. I compared it to when our Boston guys did the Brady 4 thing. There's a reason. People are like, why don't you wear merch? It's just everywhere. It's an opportunity. There's a reason for that because we know people don't like to give

barcel credit for anything. So you go in kind of under the radar and then you get covered. And then afterwards you're like, hey, that's us. So that's our little pushback to all the haters that tried to fuck up our awesome day of being famous. Which I've gotten a couple of responses. Most of the spots have been positive. Like, that photo is unbelievable. And I've even got a response.

is where the photo is unbelievable, even if you, it's not you guys. Like, you know what I mean? It's that good. It doesn't have to be that it's rigs and trend, the barstool guys out there. If that was a picture of two guys in Times Square, anonymous guys, they still, it's like, it's going to win some awards, I think. Which, if it was obvious that it was barstool, barstool, then that wouldn't be the same photo, not even close.

100%. So. Oh, and also, fuck the people who are chirping your swing when it's a still photo and they have no idea and you're in, like, ski clothes. Love those people attacking like my, my, my. the plane of my club. I'm in fucking ski gear. If you, in a blizzard, hitting a tennis ball.

Yeah, on a pile of snow. You psychopath. If you try not to fall over. That was like the main thing. If you, if we could pinpoint people who this podcast is not for, it's those people. Yeah. Who came at you like, your swing sucks, blah, blah, blah. Just don't even listen to the podcast anymore.

No way you can attack it with the right angle from that position, rigs. It's like, we're in the middle of time square in a fucking blizzard. Don't listen to my podcast, you sons of bitches. Moving on, greenskeeping. Everybody, go leave a good review. Don't forget, leave a review, leave a review, leave a review, be funny, be interesting. Yep. You can, so we're going to start implementing new prizes that you can win.

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We got to do a quick update We got a bunch of different tournaments 58-year-old Tom Lehman Topped Steve Stricker Bernard Longer and Freddie Boom Boom Freddy Couples To win the senior tours Tucson

Conquidistors Conquistadors my friend What did I say? Conquistadors Conquistadors That's not I did not think you were going to trip over that And then you fell flat on your face

I will say that when I saw it originally I was like oh yeah I know how to say that But I'm just kind of scrolling left to right here and I, yeah. That's a sweet tournament. I like that. The senior tours, Tucson Conquistadors classic. Conquistadors.

In Lady Golf, the LPGA tour went to Phoenix over the weekend for the Bank of Hope Founders Cup. This one, this one's going to be tricky. The event's website writes an exciting finish to this year's Bank of Hope Founders Cup. On an Orquist held off in G. J. Chun, Stacey Lewis and Aria Jutan Nugern to pick up her first win of the 2017 season. That's a tough one. That's not kind.

I don't know how to say. I know how to say conquistadors. I do not know how to say that ladies last night. My girl, Brooke Henderson, T-13, Lydia Co. T-8. Arnold Palmer Bay Hill, everybody knows we watch that. We're going to go to that next. First one without Mr. Palmer.

Came down to the stretch. Very exciting finish. Australian Mark Leishman wins. Shout out to our boy, Wesley Brian, who finished solo 69th. Took home $17,574. Wesley Bryant, who's been playing really solid golf, and he's been making headlines for that. I like that even when he doesn't...

I mean, 69 is fine, and 17,000 isn't terrible, but I like that he's still making headlines because he's 69. Something about him. He's got, like, some... He's got the magic on him. Yeah, solo 69, too. No T-69, none of that crap. So, uh, congrats to Wesley Brian.

That's very nice. Um, so yeah, Trent, it was, um, Bay Hill. Bay Hill is always a great tourty. We talked going in that we're very excited about it. We're always excited about it. We weren't worried that a lot of the drama was about who wasn't showing up. That wasn't really on our radar too much. We thought it would be a great tourney.

And it was. It was. Mark Leishman, I'm not going to say he shouldn't have won this tournament, but there were certainly other names that should have won this tournament. Kevin Kisner stands out right away. Leishman never really seemed like he was going to win until he then just won. He just won. Hoffman was right up there.

Hoffman was up there. We were going to get into a little bit of my gambling losses eventually. but yeah, Leishman, he had that bomb on 16 for Eagle. Yep. And it was kind of, there were a ton of people at, you know, 9, 10 under around that area. A couple guys started to make a few bogeys, which brought the whole field. It felt like into play. And then all of a sudden, Leashman makes Eagle.

And you're like, wait, what? He's in a lead. And then he held on. He won putted, what, I think the last four or five holes. Yep. So he definitely deserved it. It's his second win. He also, of note.

He was in that 2015 British Open playoff at St. That was Zach Johnson with ZJ and Louis Oostazen. That's right. Where he bogeed 16, part 17, and then couldn't birdie 18 to win it. So he's, and then his last win, his only other win was in 2012 Travelers Championship. So like you said, he kind of, I mean, he was there. We knew he was in the mix, but then he just vaulted into the lead and never gave it up. No, yeah, it was Kisner, Hoffman, and then Rory down the stretch.

Rory made a real charge to make it interesting for people who were kind of flipping back and forth with basketball. You see the name Rory and maybe stick with golf. He kind of faltered down the stretch. He said afterwards in the interview that he kind of pushed it a little too hard. He wanted to go for the win at the end there. And it cost him. How much money to end up costing him that three putt? Three putt out 18.

It cost him just under $400,000. It doesn't matter to Rory. No, it really doesn't. But still, I mean, he wouldn't just drive her around and throw $400,000 out the window. He certainly would not, which he basically did on 18. Although, I'm trying to, I mean. He didn't. He didn't.

He's trying to win the tournament. So that's the thing. I think, let me ask you this. A guy who doesn't have the luxury of Aurora who is like, you know, he's got the Nike deal. He's got four majors and he didn't even shit, really. Is that pushing him where he's like, I don't care if I lose this 400 grand? It really depends on the level of the guy. I mean, if I feel like most of the field, no, guys are just trying to win.

They're not really thinking about the dollar figures. However, if you're a really young guy or you're playing on sponsors exemptions, you're trying to cling on to your card or get your card for the next year or pay for a fucking, now. Yeah. Then yes. But I don't know. I feel like most guys, and a lot of guys, too, I mean, what did he have, four or five

feet coming back that he missed? A lot of guys feel like they're going to make those anyways. True. So I don't know. That was tricky to watch. And it felt too like Leishman very easily could have bogeyed coming down the stretch, 17 or 18. Yeah.

So even that three putt, it looked like for a while, especially when Leashman, I think, what did he pull it left off the tee? Yes. It looked like even that two putt would have gotten Rory. potentially into a playoff. So that was a little tough. But like you said, getting a big name in the mix

after there really weren't huge names on Saturday or Sunday very much. That drew some eyes, I feel like. Adam Haddon was hanging around too. The Canadian who just won, he was finished an eight under, but he almost holed out, drawing a blank on what hole it was.

17. 17, which would have put him right in the mix. It should have been a hole in one, but the flag is in it, so it busted it out. Unbelievable. Adam Hadwin, he, I mean, playing unbelievable golf.

Getting married on Friday, too. Getting married on Friday. Canceled his honeymoon because he's got the Masters coming up. Yeah, also a little, a nice little bonus. Leishman is now into the Masters with that win. He is. And his story is pretty good with his wife. Did you see that at all?

Yes, a little bit. I've got it pulled up here. Two years ago, almost to the week, Leishman's wife, Audrey, nearly died from toxic shock syndrome, a rare life-threatening complication of certain bacterial infections. Audrey was induced in the coma The last four days to pinpoint the illness And then her last, or she was Leishman had to rush away from Augusta

The last time he played So he didn't get to play last time So he gets the win this time And he gets to play in the Masters Hopefully, you know Things go a little better this time Hard not to root for that Seems like a great

A great guy on the betting front We had Capfather I mean he's cooling down We might have to put him in time out Haven't seen any text from him In about a week I think that's understandable. So he picks Stenson, missed the cut, five over par.

He did his long shot was Fleetwood, who finished inside the top 10, 600 par, and he was a 40 to one shot. So, you know, you can't really hate on him for that. I do want to say that I am a very embarrassing shitty move. I woke up Saturday. I looked at the leaderboard, and I knew that the guys that we had chosen were out of the mix, and I like to be in the mix. so I bet on Emiliano Grillo at 5 to 1 I got him

right after I was going to tweet about it so everyone could follow along oh let's go rigs let's do this right after I bet on him I turn on the golf channel pregame and they're like yeah Grillo was really fighting the snap hooks yesterday I'm like oh shit sure enough made a 9 on the 6th hole

to essentially knock him right out of the tournament he shot a 78 on Saturday and he ended up for the record finished four shots out of a playoff yeah tied for 7th that's uh yeah it's So had he just pard the sixth, which is a birdie hole, he would have gotten into a playoff. Instead, he made a nine about, I don't know, maybe an hour and a half after I bet a bunch of money on to win the tournament. So that was sweet.

I thought the course was great this week. I agree. Oh, man, it was tough. You don't really see very often 11 under wins it. I also wrote down that just 12 guys finished 5 under or better. And if you really think about it, the 16th hole is so short of a part 5. It's like 511. and some years it's even played as a part four.

So even if you consider that to be basically a hole that guys should be making four on, then really you only have 12 guys finish under par for the weekend. It's insane. So it was really, I love when we love when the course is played. Let me tell you, let me ask this about the course. Is it good or bad for it that there is a lot of alligators out there? A very startling amount of alligators. They were.

Like too many alligators, I would say. You got to wonder when people, just go play on a normal basis, they have to just cross all the time, which are dinosaurs, by the way. Or do they bring in alligators to be like, hey, this is going to be Bay Hill, it's going to be a lot of cameras around. You know what I mean? Like, it's like piping in bird noise on Masters Week. That's really not a bad idea. I never even thought of that.

Seems like a risky move. Risky, but worth it. Because I feel like people play Bay Hill all year round and there's not as many. You don't see like you, anytime there's an alligator on a golf course, it goes viral in the golf community and everybody sees it. but you don't see as many coming out to Bay Hill. This week we had, what, Cody Gribble, smack one on the ass, and it jumped into the water, risky move by him, obviously. And then Smiley Kaufman doing what I would do

and seeing one and running the other direction. That's what I wrote in the blog was that that was the only natural reaction that I saw a week was you just run away from it immediately. Why would you tap it on the ass like a psychopath? Cody, tap it on the ass, there's so many other things that could happen other than jump into the water. My thing would be it was just going to turn around and bite your hand off, like Chubbs Peterson.

I kind of like woke Trent on the pipe and in alligators. I think they definitely do that. Again, might have a lawsuit on your hands if that goes the wrong direction. I don't really know. Ricky had an incredible outfit week.

I feel like this type of week is made for Ricky. And he knows that it's made for Ricky. He knows that Arnold Palmer was really popular in his day. He knows Ricky's like, oh, I'm really popular now. Got to show out.

That yellow and green, who. Yeah, it goes right there too with the Mr. Palmer's umbrella, the logo, the colors, the iced tea and lemonade, all that, right in Ricky's wheelhouse, and he nailed it. His shoes were on Fuego. Those, yeah, they saw they auctioned off the shoes from earlier in the week that had a bunch of picture of Arnold Palmer on it. It went for like 10 G's. Jesus Christ.

10 Gs. So a great week honoring Mr. Palmer. We're going to see a lot more of that at the Masters as well and a couple other events throughout the year. Definitely. But awesome week. It always is. I love that tournament. I really hope they don't move venues or anything like that.

Glad that the course held up. I have a quick listing for something kind of related to player feelings. Okay. We had a listener and a fan, Ed. He sent En, so he's not really a big golfer. But he said, I started listening to the podcast to get more into golf. My dad has been a fan for years, so I'm watching it more with him. Literally, I've never seen Bryson D.

DeCambeau play, nor did I know who he was before your podcast. When they flashed to him about to take a shot, I instinctively said, ugh, and rolled my eyes. Love it. Love that. So now we've got to the point where people that aren't even called fans who don't even know who Bryson D. Chambot is are using player feelings to basically hate people. I like that. I like that he just, like, didn't know anything about Bryson, but as soon as he saw him, I think people would have that reaction to Bryson if they had no idea who he was. And that's been kind of your stance from day one, whereas I was a little bit more.

giving Bryson a shot at the beginning. Yeah, and we also had the, was it this week when, because when they were like, oh, I'm out here grinding away and there were like 10 cameras around him. That was the worst. You're right. He said, this is my week off. Out grinding him, I week off or something like that. He had literally six cameramen out there, which leads me to believe that he has zero self-awareness.

That picture there is not the picture of a guy who is like reading the press that we give him in terms of us hating him. He must just put those blinders on and be like, I'm just going to keep doing it. Even LeBron, who's the least self-aware person in the world, knows to go like selfie mode in the gym and not have 10 photographers come with you to the gym. Have you seen any time the PGA tour puts up a thing about Bryson on Instagram, the comments are fantastic. They're basically just like, I hate this guy. He's a try hard.

He needs to win and he needs to make a cut. It's kind of started a revolution with Bryson in the wrong way. Good. I like that. This guy, Ed, must have been from a couple weeks ago. I don't think Bryson played this last week. He did not know. So it must have been for a couple weeks ago.

Good work, Ed. Keep it up. Glad we've gotten you into the game. Headlines, Trent, I believe we've got some headlines this week. We've got one headline this week. Okay. And it's about the one and only Tiger Woods, who had himself a day today. He was in New York City.

He did kind of the car wash. He's doing a book signing at Union Square at 1230. But before that, he went to Good Morning America and looked. It's really weird with his hair. If you go look at the pictures. His situation is so bad. What is he doing? He's a billionaire.

Like, get your fucking shit fixed. Either shave it or just get new hair. I mean... Oh, yeah, you're... Should get plugs or something. He just needs to shave it. Just shave it. Because you can't...

You're a billionaire, like you're saying, he could just get plugs now and people be like, hey, that guy got plugs. That's weird, but he looks better. Just shave him, though. It's not... I don't get... It's not... I don't even think it's weird at this point if you get hair plugs.

Like, bottom line is having a full. head of hair is better and more attractive than not having a full head of hair. So if you can't, no, you can't, I don't like guys to get hair plugs. What, Wayne Rooney got hair plugs. Yeah, Rudy did it. LeBron got hair plugs. I don't like any of that. Just let it happen.

Let it all go away and shave it. Just shave it. Because I don't like, I don't want to be the guy who is like, oh, that guy got hair plugs. That's a shitty look. Whatever it is, whatever his options are better than what he's doing now. It looks horrific. He's got to have the most yes. man handlers in the world.

In the world. Who is not telling him, dude, you can't go on TV like that. This is where Tiger needs, does he have a girlfriend right now? I don't think he does. I don't know. He needs Elyn. He needs Linsie. He needs any blonde bimbo off the street would say your hair looks like shit.

Any normal person, any normal dude that's had a normal group of friends, et cetera, et cetera, would never be allowed out of the house like that. But he has always been the king. He's always been top dog, you know, alpha male. No one's ever said that. What does Steinberg do in his age? What the fuck? He looks ridiculous.

You bring up a good point about the group of friends. Does he not, he likes to be friends with the guys on tour, but I don't know who his real, real friends are. I don't think he has any because he would get ridiculed. If he walked into that, if a barstole blogger walked into that office with that hair, he would just get ripped to shreds.

And that's what Tiger needs. Does he not even have, I mean, he always says, he always talks about how much him and the guys needle each other. does Jason Day or Jeter or Barkley or any of these guys that are his buddies, they don't text them? Like, hey, dude, I saw you on TV. You look fucking ridiculous? Well, as we know, the relationship between him and Barclay soured, I think, after the Thanksgiving thing.

Barkley would be the guy to say it, though. That's what I mean. Jordan, I don't know, any one of these guys he hangs out with that are his buddies, somebody tell him. I think Jason Day looks up to him too much. If Jason Day told Tiger your hair looks like shit, Tiger might stop responding to his text messages. But Barkley and Jordan and those guys are definitely in the... camp where they could be like, dude, you look like a fucking idiot. He looks absurd.

You can't even, you can't listen to anything he's saying. You can't, like, there's no way that he's doing this whole, I'm trying to get ready for the Masters thing. You can't look like that and be ready for the Masters. Nope. Or be a hack guy. Always be a hack guy. Always.

Like glue it to your fucking head. Glue it. Because when he's out on course, he looks great. He looks like a, you know, savage Tiger Woods. He looks eerily similar to how he used to look, except for the fact that he can't walk or swing or do anything with a back. Well, to that point, he was on Good Morning America today. He had a putting contest with Michael Strayhand, who he beat, and he looked like...

Barely beat him. Barely beat him. Barely beat him. But he was bopping around. He was like, hey, he fist pumped. He gave one of those, which it's sad that it's like, we're getting excited about a good morning America fistpump. It is because you have to, he was running up to you to move balls out of the way. Yep.

That looked like pretty quick movement for a guy that previously couldn't get off a couch. The putting stroke looked good. Pudding stroke looked good. He looked poised under pressure. There's all kinds of chaos. going on and he was just draining putts? I wrote it in my blog today that Tiger's a drug addict.

He's a drug addict to winning, so he's addicted to winning. Maybe if he just gets a little taste what he got today by beating Michael Strayan, maybe that's like what sends him on a tear. We probably won't look back on his Good Morning America appearance and being like, oh, that putting tournament turned him around, but we might. Yeah, I remember like five or six years ago

there was a little article that came out and they were interviewing about his kids, and it was the point where his kids could start to get to the age where they were putting up golf club. and stuff. And he was like, yeah, I have putting contest now against my two young kids. They're like, oh, how does it go? Do you let him win? He's like, no, I fucking dust him. Like I crush him. That's, that's, I like that a lot. Yeah, he's, that's tiger to me. That's the tiger I want, the one who will not let his

toddlers beat him in anything. Yeah, we need super competitive tiger. So it's good to see him competing out there. Then again, we're talking about good morning. If you really, like, you know, take the lens back and we're like, we're so far removed from the 2000s to the point where we're like, hey, did you see Tiger beat Michael Strayhan today? What a sad reality we've entered with Eldrick. Hopefully he plays the Masters. And it's frustrating.

I hope he plays the Masters. He said he's doing everything he can, blah, blah, blah. We've been eating those shit lines for years now. Yep. He did all this because of the book signing. And if it had been, we've seen he's pulled out of tournaments. He's pulled out of press conferences where they know everything today was very controlled. Nobody's firing questions at him.

The media is not going to be able to get to him. The book signing, you couldn't have cameras. You couldn't have any of that stuff. He only does these things, and this is what concerns me about this new Tiger, is he's only doing things for financial and to grow. Of course he is. I know, but it's like, I wish he would do press comments. I wish people will like, it just, it seems so fake.

And I know Tiger's fake, people are going to say that. This is not the direction I want to see him going. I mean, it's not surprising. Who care? It's what he does. All right. You're right, but I just, it sucks. Yeah, I would want to see him play golf rather than just putt against Michael Strand,

but it is what it is. Yeah, I wonder how many times he said T. I didn't watch Good Morning America, but I wonder how many times he said TGR, I bet it was like 45. Yeah. Anyways, moving on, we have a very unique interview. I don't really know what to expect. It's, yeah, I'm speechless.

I don't know what to expect either. We're interviewing a fake Shooter McGavin. who is the most in character, Shooter McGavin person ever. Like Andy Kaufman levels of commitment in terms of his character. It's the guy who's a very good friend of the program, become a good friend of ours,

who started and runs the Shooter McGavin parody account on Twitter, over 300,000 followers. We've thought for weeks, months, even, that it'd be really interesting to have him on the podcast, talk about it, talk to him, whatever. Like I said, no idea what to expect. We don't know what to call him. Shooter?

When we email him, he received. Bond's single pistol. That's what, that's the thing people need to know is he is in character behind the scenes even. So we're going to, uh, we're going to sit down. We're going to chat with Shooter McGavin. Everyone please enjoy this interview with Shooter. This interview with Shooter McGavin is brought to you by Dollar Shave Club. There's absolutely no reason to use a cheap disposable razor or pay a ridiculously high price for some gimmicky piece of shit thing that's got a laser pointer with 17 blades.

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I don't even know. Do we just call you shooter? Just call me shooter. That's fine. I love that. Yes. I put all my friends call me not anymore, so. No way.

If you had said, if you had said call me by my real name, Steve, I would have been like, I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, I know. Just call me shit. I mean, that's all my friends call me these days anyway since they know. Amazing. That's incredible that your friends call you shooter. I would have never guessed that. Yeah, yeah, that's what happens.

And you run a parody account for six years. So, yeah, it's been six years. Let's, I mean, let's try to start from the beginning. Where do you, are you just, like, fucking around on Twitter with a Shooter McGabbin account? and all of a sudden it blows up or what happened? I did a couple of parity accounts before that were not as successful as obviously a Shire account. Who were they? One was a Rick Vaughn account.

And then the other one was, it was just some terrible about Tebow. It was big back in that day, and I tried to make an account about it and just, I ran out material fast on it. Do it like Bible verses and stuff? I was, yep, exactly. It's 100% what I did. I did Bible verses, like a book of Tebow. I just made Bible verses up that would go. according to Tebow, so that's what I did.

Man, that's about a month. That's really funny because when I was first trying to get Barstool's attention, I made like three or four parody accounts. I don't even remember one was like a, and literally none of them got over like 100 followers. But one of them was like a fly on the wall, like parody account type thing. And the whole premise was like,

I was going to say weird shit. But it's really, it's hard to grow up. So, okay, so you tried a couple and then you ended up on shooter. I ended up on shooter. You know, I, honestly, from like 96 to 2004, I probably watched Happy Gilmore over a hundred times. I would just, I love that movie growing up. Me and my buddy would go back to his house every weekend night and just watch it.

I don't know. We just love that movie. And I know I was going back and forth whether I wanted to create a parody account for Happy Gilmore or Shooter. And I just, I don't know, for whatever reason, I just thought, you know, I like Shooter more than Happy Gilmore. I'm like, this guy is great. Great call. First, I looked to see if there's any other shooting McGavan accounts out there. And I was like, there were a couple, but none of them were legit or had anything over

a thousand followers. So I was like, you know, let's give a shot. So, of course, I tried, you know, taking a shot, seeing if Shooter McGavin, the actual handle was available. And, of course, that wasn't. And the funny thing is that guy who has that account. He hasn't put a tweet out since 2008, and I've reached out to him 100 times to see if I get that account. I just never get it, but just

one tweet in 2008, and the guy just never gets back to me. So, but yeah, I started it. Then the first reached out to like Nick Mangled, random people, Nick Mangled, and he he, for whatever reason, I started putting content out there and he started to

follow me and just mentioned back for whatever reason. I was just, I was putting funny content out there, and it started as well, and, you know, I just, I started putting, first few tweets I was putting the shooter McAvon, like, quotes and stuff like that. Yeah. And then Paul Asinger was one of the first followers, two random people you want to think of.

And then they started retweeting my accounts. And it was in April of 2011. That's right when the master started. So, you know, that's like the main foundation right there is the masters and just put tweet out then. So how long did you do it did you have like 50,000 followers and then 100,000 followers? What was, how long did it take for you to get to those, like, big milestones? comments? It took me probably the first year was probably the first two years are probably

the stuff, you know, just creating a foundation, getting tweets, retweeted, getting mentions. Like, first off, when I was like first beginning, I would just search Happy Gilmer, or Shooter McGavin, and just find anybody that was tweeting about and just mention them and just say, you know, put a Shooter McGavin reference into it, and then they would tweet back or anything like that, just going into the search engine, finding golfers and seeing if they would you know, play along with it, you know. But funny story is, I tweeted Bubba Watson right off the gate, see if he was anything.

He blocked me. He blocked me. Of course he did. Jesus. Of course he did. Bubba Watson should be like he should model his career after Happy Gilmore. He should do that and he just refuses to do. Right.

You watch him playing. You think Happy Gilmer. I mean, I do for whatever. You just think Happy Gilmer, but he is not a fan. You know what? That means you're doing something. Something right. I agree.

I mean, if he's blocking me, I know I'm doing something right, it must be funny. It's funny because, I mean, Happy Gilmore has to be by far the most quoted movie on a golf course of all time. Without a die. You know, I remember we talked to you a little bit. You said if you were going to die, that would be the movie you watched, and I'd have to agree. I mean, it's just one of those comedies that, you know, you can put on and watch no matter how long it's been playing. It's just you watch it no matter what. Yeah, it's like it was in those 90s comedies like Billy Madison, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Happy Gilmore,

especially the Sandler ones. Happy Gilmore might stand just a little bit above all those. It's so quotable. Yeah, I mean, I quote it every day still. Yeah, how much now, like with your buddies and shit, are you just in character with Shooter? I mean, they call me Shooter, but, I mean, it's just whenever we go golf and that's when I get the references the most. Like, you know, can you use your shoot? handle to get us some free golf.

You know, tell them you have this many followers and get us a free round. If you mention the course, it is how nice it is or something like that. But that's usually a gist of it. But, yeah, those guys love it. Yeah, it's funny. Like, one of the big reasons we want to have you on is because a big part of our job is, obviously, social. One of nowadays the most interesting and fun parts about watching any TV event is social, especially Twitter, being on Twitter, interacting with people. So now, I mean, nowadays, are you, do you get just all jacked up for golf coverage to be like, all right, here we go, shooter references all that?

I love it. Like Sundays, if there's like a big field and there's like beef or McElroy or Dustin Johnson and the final pairings, it's just, you know, that gets me going, you know, especially with the master's coming up. That Sunday, that Sunday from four to six is like when it's like, that's like when my creative juices are just flowing. Like I'm thinking of content that's going to be funny or like last year, for example. have like the masters like speed was going out in front the final round looked like he was just going to pull away and then 12th hole happened it was like it was like comedy gold it's like thank you i mean i love jordan speech he follows me on account so it's like but i was like thank you for duffing two shots in the water there it's like because it just opened the floodgates and just

you know start putting tweets out there and getting retweets and all that stuff so as it's just being you know what's that oh i was just going to say as an observer i love the account i it's most impressive to me how you relate everything back to Happy Gilmore and Shooter McGavin. It's not, because you could easily step outside that. You could easily step outside and be like, I'm just going to do golf tweets. You somehow miraculously and keep it fresh, you just keep shooting McAvin in it. I don't know how you do it, but I love it. Right.

Just to think of an example like that, it's like I think Tiger, it's probably was three or four years back. He was in contention. And then he hit the pole and, or no, it was, um, yeah, it was like 2000. for an illegal stroke. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. And he hit the phone and he got marked off two or three shots or something like that.

And I was thinking back to Happy Gilmore. Like when Happy went off on that one hole in Waterbury and just threw the flagstick and one in a tantrum and they didn't docked anything. It's like, you know, just trying to make things funny from the Happy Gilmore reference. Always trying to be in that Happy Gilmore mode where you're thinking. you know, what can be funny from the Happy Gilmore release. I just have this image of you, like, right before Master's coverage starts, if you, like, sitting alone in a corner, like, getting jacked up.

Like, all right, I got to think about as many Shabby Gilmore things as I possibly can right now. It's just a little bit of brainstorming before those Sundays happen. When I started the account, I was single living in an apartment, and now five years later, I'm shooters married and has a kid. So it's, like, a little bit harder to get those juices going and watch the Sundays, but I still love doing it. So it's just... During any course of it, did you experiment with stepping outside of the shooter thing and just running the account as a golf Twitter?

Or have you always tried to stay in the character on the account? I have always tried to stay in the character. Sometimes, you know, if you see something, obviously, that's going viral and it's just straight golf, I'll tweet about it. But if I can put a happy Gilmore or shooter McGavin twist onto it and, you know, try to make the account as authentic as possible, I always try to do that. So I'm always trying to think of the account, not trying to, you know, for lack of a better word, betray it and just start, you know, doing stuff outside the character and making it, you know, less relevant than what it is. So have you, we're curious, have you ever had any contact or anything with the real shooter, the guy that played shooter? I have not, but it's funny. I watched a few of his interviews and the guy, he loves being the shooter McGavin.

Every time I see a picture, somebody tweets me, it's him doing a single pistol. with a double pistol and it's just like this guy just loves being shooting and it helps me I'm like usually that guy he just gets bombarded with shooter McGavin references whenever he goes out that's like you know and he plays along with it so but yeah I've

almost had a chance to talk to him but I've never had the opportunity to talk to him but from all I've heard and people that tweet me he seems to enjoy it I know he knows the count but he never talked to him no yeah I was I was curious almost like a little competition out there like a couple guys like fighting for that for that shooter

recognition. Right, yeah. He was actually, he threw a first pitch out down in Akron around where I live, and he actually reached out to me and decided if I had a wedding that weekend, so I couldn't have done it. Like, it was my best friend's wedding, and didn't have a chance to go down there and talk to him. But that would have been cool just to meet him.

And I always think about what I would say to him if I met the guy. I was like, you know, I'm the shooter McGavin accountant. I don't know what he would say to me. Well, and not that he owes you anything, but you. You have some, you've kept that character. It's a relevant character regardless because it's a pretty iconic character. But the Shooter McGavin Twitter account has kept him probably more relevant than he would be. You know, I think about that sometimes, but, you know, he does some things.

I've, you know, boardwalk empire and all that stuff. But it's, I've seen stories where he actually almost turned down the role for Shooter McGavin. And it's like probably the best decision in his life that he actually did it. Because it's, well, I think one of the best roles. in comedy. Oh, he's such a good villain. It's unbelievable. You know, it's like he's so perfect.

So I couldn't envision. Like, I would love to see, like, who else they would have casted that role. It wasn't Chris McConnell because I just can picture it as anybody else. That's the mark of when you, when an actor does something really well when you can't even, because like you said, I can't picture who else would even try to do that role. No, I, no, there's nobody I can think of doing that role besides Chris McDonald's. Yeah, it's like the Jason Alexander. Like, there's just, like, you couldn't even fathom a different George. You couldn't even fathom a different shir to that one.

Like a smug, dushy, like, country club golfer is so perfect. It was just perfect. It was funny. I was watching an interview he did on Rich Eisen last year, and he talked about that last putt. There he went ballistic and just was a classic shooter. I think it's one of the best parts in the whole movie is where he did that whole choke on that, baby. They said, or he said, he was allowed to do eight putts to make that putt.

And that's all he had. If he didn't make it, they were just going to have him missed the putt. I'm not even joking. No way. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the seventh, I'll send you guys a link on that. But he made it on the seventh try, and then he just did improvise the whole celebration,

and they just kept it. Like, that wasn't even a plan. He was a total improvisation on that. So I thought that was a great story ever, but. That's amazing. I love that. So now, I mean, you're at over 300 and what, 2,000 followers? Is that what it is?

Yeah, 302, yep, right around. there. And have you, I mean, what's the biggest, I don't know, names that you've been able to contact or chat with or DM or anything like that come from it? Aaron Rogers is probably the biggest that I've established a relationship with, not like personally anything, but just through Twitter. I, he started following me around 2013. We had a little interaction that day. And then he followed me that evening. And he's been a big follower of mine and he tweets me and retweets all my tweets usually around big sporting events so he's probably been the biggest reason i was around uh probably about 140 000 when he started following me and

i'm sure that's a big reason i'm around 300 now because you know keep those those eyes on that many of my account it's just it's going to go up a little bit so does any part of you like when you see that you have over 300,000 followers does like add does any part of you feel like oh man this is like almost getting so big that i can't wrap my arms around it Um, you know, sometimes I get a little stale with it. I see a 300,000. Like, where can I go from here? You know, and it's like, I have to do a little bit of looking to see, you know,

is there that much more to do to grow the yarn? So, like, sometimes I think I'm at the cap, you know, I just, but, you know, the creative juice is going to me when certain events come around, like the masters and that comes, it's just going to be like, you know, what can I do to be funny? What can I do to be different than last year around this time, you know? And, but to put a number on, you know, right now, I'm happy doing it still.

I mean, I'm 32 years old, and I still love doing the account. But no, I don't get stagnant with it at all. Yeah, it's crazy. It's been five, six years. I mean, that's a long time to be running that account and be in character. Yeah, when I knew I was coming out, I had to look at it. I don't even know when I started the account. Like, one was, it was in 2011, and it was just, like I said, those first two years were just, like,

grind, like getting the mansions out there, the happy young. references and see who would, you know, follow. You know, it was mostly just creating a foundation that where they knew you were, the actual character knew your, for New Year's shit with a, when Hapkin Gilmer and not some fraud, just looking to get followers. Do you have any kind of thoughts on just golf, Twitter in general? And because we get, I mean, we get everything from people that just love to be in the mix and have a good time.

And then we get people that take golf way too seriously and are like, golf hardos and they start chirping if you ever post a picture of you golf and they start like shitting on our club, you know, playing and all that. What are your kind of just thoughts in general on, you know, golf Twitter and being a big part of it? Usually most of my followers, they know of the gist, like, I'm just going to put out funny stuff. Right. And the occasional time I post like a golf picture of where I'm golfing, you know,

I'll get a couple hardos where they'll be like, just stick to the comedy and not the not the actual pictures and swinging a golf club or, you know, showing a green. It's like, you know, but come on. I love that like that messes up their day. Right. I know, Francis, you know, it's not all about the comedy. I mean, I'll put a post enough out there. Yeah.

Okay. So I've noticed, too, you're kind of, you've been slinging a little merch. I mean, what's kind of the plan with the account? Is it to do you make any money off it? Because I feel like $302,000 is a lot of followers. I feel like it's got to reach a point where you're like, what can I do with this? Right. I still, I do the T-spring.

I know you guys are big on T-shirts. I do that from time to time. I'm always trying to think of creative shirts like you guys are always. But I actually talked to another guy not that long ago, scratch. I'm sure you guys are familiar with them. They're associated with PGA. Oh, yeah. They're big golf fans, big shooter fans.

So I'm thinking about, they're talking about maybe going out to a course on Sunday and live tweeting from their account, which I think would be fun. But yeah, I'm always looking for bigger, bigger things. I've worked with golf now. A company, I'm sure you guys familiar with where they're scheduling tea times, and I've ran a couple promotions for them. But nothing too big yet. I'm always looking for the next big thing.

But, yeah, I do make a fair amount of profit off of it, definitely, for sure. Yeah, Scratch. I like them. They have a good account, actually. Yeah, I talked to DJ. He's the guy who owns it. And he just recently took it over the creative department. He got in touch with me and was looking and going to go in a different direction where they were going before.

So, yeah, definitely definitely like them. That sounds great. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's definitely something cool that you've built. I've been, God, since I first got into Twitter, I feel like I've been on the account. Yeah, I was going to ask you, when did you guys start following the shooter? Yeah, I was trying to think. I mean, I know, so my buddies and I back from, I'm from St. Louis originally, and we are, like I said, at the beginning, Happy Gilmore's got to be the most quoted movie, especially when we're golfing.

I don't think we play a single hole without some sort of Happy Gilmore reference. So I think we've probably been following the account since around, I would guess within like a year or so of when you started it. So probably around, probably been like four or five years that I've been following the account. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm trying to think it's definitely been a couple years, but I definitely, because I remember when KFC did the villains bracket. You remember when that went down? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I remember when he was like, oh, I got this shooter guy, and he's kind of helping me pump up the interaction with it. And when KFC said that, I was like, oh, yeah, I've been following that account for a couple years. And that's been, I think that was last year. So I'd say two to three years. Yeah, about last year at this time. Yeah, I'd say I've been following about two to three years. So it's been a while. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, when that villain bracket came out last year, that was kind of like a big old kick in the Korea of juices. That was pretty fun to take over that account. That was great. You, like, swung the vote. I mean, I sure would have probably got pretty far anyway, but when you got your Twitter followers to start voting, I mean, you sailed to the victory.

Yeah, I remember I would wait about until like 11 a.m. 12 p.m., because I had voting closed at 1230 and just, like, put this tweet out to help Shooter get to the, move on to the next round, because I'd be facing, like, the Joker, I think the Jaws, the Bondrago. And it was like, it was funny because you could just put creative trash talk out there from Shooter, you know, from the movie. It was just, it was easy to do it. Well, that helped us, too, because.

when shooter either won or was in the finals Golf Digest picked it up and was like, hey, look at this. There was a few stories after that came out where they were running the thing, Shooter still on top of the best villain ever. So, like, that's cool. It's so fucking good that we got a,

you got a parody Twitter account just battling it out in the bracket. What a huge advantage that your character has that 300,000 followers in the bracket? I don't think any of those other villains had that parolar account, so I don't use it to my advantage. That's awesome. All right, Trent, you got anything else?

I'm just happy this finally happened. Yeah, this was great. Yeah, I enjoyed it, guys. Yeah, we've been, so everybody knows, you know, you've been helping us behind the scenes. You've been a big fan of the podcast, I think, since day one. So you've kind of helped reach out to guests. Yeah, when I heard you guys are coming out, I wanted to jump on.

Yeah, no, we've really appreciated it. Like I said, you've kind of helped reach out to guests and get us some guests and all that and been involved and giving us a couple of creative ideas for videos and stuff like that. So we've been collaborating behind this. scenes it was really nice to finally you know be able to check at you on the podcast and just hear about the account because like i said i've probably been following it for four or five years at least no i mean yeah i mean i don't plan on stopping any time soon i mean i got a little one now

so hopefully when he's old enough i can just pass it down to him but did you name him shooter uh i ran it past the wife and she wasn't too thrilled about that so uh his name is not shooter junior unfortunately hey you got it shoot or shoot you tried right right i tried but it didn't work. I tried Chubs and it didn't work out. You just go down the list. Chubs. Come on. Give me something. Happy. Donald. I just didn't work. That's great. All right, Shooter.

Well, we really appreciate it, man. And, yeah, we're going to keep collaborating and all that going forward. So keep it up with the account. Awesome, guys. I enjoyed it. All right, man. Thanks a lot. Thanks, Shooter. Say, you guys. Bye. And Trent, that was Shooter McGavin. Just a different sort of interview that we're doing around. here. It is. I like it because, you know, we're not a PGA tour podcast. We're trying to mix it up. We're trying to get in different guys. We had Michael Breed. We've had Shooter McAvin. Shoot. I mean, Breed is sort of in the normal. We're like, oh, he's an instructor. He's on TV. Shooter. And we both, as soon as we're like, we should have a shooter on. We're like, yep. I just want to know about different parts of that. He did really well. His chats about like the parodies getting into it with each other and like, you know, being shooter with his buddies and having that rep is like, laugh out.

He was like, oh, I didn't know if I wanted to be happy Gilmore when I started. I didn't know if I wanted to be this or that. It was cool. And it almost turned into a Riggs interview for me because you gave out some information that I did not know that you, before you started a barstool, started a couple of parity accounts yourself. You guys both started to get nervous at that point. I did. I was like, what the fuck is you going to say?

I know, I know you now. You're a funny guy. I knew it was probably going to be good. But when you were like, it was this fly on the wall Twitter account. I did not know where. I think if you go back and listen to it, you can hear me like yelling at you. I could see your face. You're being like,

shut up. You're a loser. Like, stop. So let's get a little information on that. It's very difficult, as everybody knows, to get Barstool's attention. And I was trying to get it. And I had one,

the fly-in-the-wall idea is a good idea. Because it's a metaphor that people use all the time. So the whole account idea was, I was the fly. I was tweeting as the fly. That sees shit that nobody else sees. The other idea I had,

which is along the same premise was an elephant in the room parody account. You know the scene in an office space where the guy gets in the accident and he has all this money and he wants to do a startup and he's explaining his jump to conclusions, Matt. That's what elephant in the room sounds like

when you explain to me. Elephant in the room is a great parody account. I'm the elephant, Trent. It's me. I'm the elephant. Like, hey guys. I'm here. You can talk about me.

I know you guys can see me. Like, I... The tension won't be clear until you talk about me. That's the elephant in the room. That's... I get it, Riggs. I get it. I like fly on the wall better because you can just, like, make observations.

Elephant in the room... I'm pretty sure... Is your jump to conclusions, Matt? I think fly on the wall evolved to elephant in the room. Shocked it didn't go the other way. And then both, neither one of them really survived. So that was Shooter. Look at you now, kid.

Yep. Look at me now. Just killing it. So that was shooter. Very, very. Interesting. Like I said, we're big, we're on social media nonstop. Yeah.

And Happy Gilmore. I did say that, I think I said it on the morning show that people, somebody asked if you had to listen or you had to watch one movie forever and they gave us like a drama, a comedy. My comedy was happy to go more. It just makes me laugh out loud. It's great. Yeah. So if you, I'm, you probably already follow the shooter McGavan account. But if you don't, I think it's at Shooter McGavin underscore is the account.

I think it is too. So if you listen to this podcast. Yeah. It's at at Shooter McGavin underscore. He's got 3002,000 followers. very funny especially. He's a must follow golf Twitter during golf events. Yeah.

And if you're listening to this podcast, you probably have already followed him. But if you don't make sure to throw him a follow, he was a cool guest. And he's pretty involved with this podcast. So he's one of us. He's been very involved. Like I said, he emails us weekly content ideas for different skits. He helps us out with trying to get guests and all that. So he's the man.

It was really nice to talk to him. Appreciate him. He's a real life person with a family and stuff. If I can say, more normal than I thought he was going to be. Very normal, dude. He's just like a relatable normal dude who has a 302,000 follower of parody Twitter account. If you look at it on the face, like, hey, here's this 32-year-old guy running a parody account for a movie character. You don't know what you're going to get, but he's normal.

We did not know what you're going to get. No, I mean, we've had interactions with him through via email, which, by the way, he does not go out of character when he's in emails. He puts single pistol all the time. Yep. So you never know what you're going to get, but he was very normal. He's got a kid. You know, he seems like a cool dude. Kudos the shooter.

On to everybody's favorite segment from the gallery. Once again, email us stuff at, I'm sorry, Foreplay at barstoolsports.com at 4Playpod on Twitter and Instagram. Send us stuff, send us stuff, send us stuff. We're going to start off. Nice little angry golfer story here. This is from a guy named Trent, not our Trent, a different Trent. Oh, okay.

I was wondering when you put that in there, like, why did you put my name on the list? Like you were supposed to say it? I did. That's what I thought. Yeah, that would have been weird. this guy's name is Trent. I never put last name as I feel like we're not supposed to say people's last thing. Probably not.

So that's just professional podcasting. This guy's got a good story. He was playing in a little local tournament at a Muni course. He was playing with a guy. This is when he was in high school. So he's playing with a guy that he had played high school golf against. And they're just playing in, you know, whatever, a normal little local tourney. He says, so we're playing the seventh hole, short little part five,

pond short and left to the green. This guy, Vince, hits. a bomb drive hits like a five iron and he hits it and it's headed left towards the water he says as we're approaching the green don't see his ball and i can sense a blow up coming he says vents has a little bit of a temper always has so he's a little nervous playing with vents sure as shit he says he can hear vans over there going where's my god die of the end ball i know i made it over the pond i saw it bound so he looked for a while he's just fuming starts to say some very vulgar shit for a 17 year old. Eventually, he hears him slam down his bag and he says, as I'm expecting him to reach for a ball

and take a drop, instead he sets down his bag, grips his bag like he's about to throw it, grabs it with both hands, does a spin like a shot putter, and throws his bag and tire clubs and off about 10 feet into the pond. That's an amazing visual. He says he obviously started laughing, like this guy started laughing at Vince when his bag's floating farther away towards the middle of the pond he said he throws a couple more f-pombs walks to his car drives home the ultimate wd i mean you got to respect that commitment my reaction to this is you know when they say oh there was a when somebody murders someone and they're like 30s they say oh the signs were there the signs were definitely there like they used to i didn't know where you're going with murdered somebody

yeah stick with me here okay they used to like oh then you find out oh they used to like murder kittens and like rabbits and bunnies this is this is on that level with me where he's He just completely loses his mind, spins shot putt style. The shot putt's great. It wasn't. Like, he was ready. I'm going to fucking shot put this thing in the middle of the bond. Yeah.

And that's the biggest thing with me is like, that's a person who doesn't think because throwing that in there, you're just not going to get it back and it's all ruined. So he just doesn't think, just doesn't. That's the type of person who might go on to do bigger and worse things. Yeah. So shout out to Vince. Hopefully he's a happier person now. I hope Vince is happy, but I would imagine he's not.

17-year-old Vince throwing his entire bag in the middle of the tournament into the water. Good for him. Have you ever thrown any sort of golf stuff into a pond or a lake? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Well, I've thrown, one time I was in a playoff against my buddies. We were just normal round 18. We ended up tied, so we did a couple of playoff holes.

And I three putted to lose the match. And I did a weird, like, over-the-head tomahawk putter throw. Oh, whoa. It was. Like you were throwing it. an axe? Yep. Exactly. It was an axe format. And it was very regrettable. And it like hit the cart, made a big noise. And like I was worried my putter's broken. So that was bad. I also had one time, like I didn't, I didn't think about this story. But this was a member guest I was playing in. And we're playing. Comes down to the last match and the last day Sunday. And the guys were playing against are pretty drunk. We'd had a couple beers. So we're not like the soberest guys. But there's a good amount of money on the line. It's a member guests, probably a couple thousand dollars total because, you know, everybody buys in, Calcutt, all that shit.

So we're down to the 17th hole and it's best ball format. One guy is in his pocket. The other guy's got, he's just short of the green and he needs two putts to have to tie the hole. Yep. And he leaves it like 10 feet short. So he goes to throw his putter like up the fairway just in frustration, throw it like 10 or 20 feet up the ends up. You know how when you go to throw something? sometimes it gets stuck on your hand for too long.

Oh, yeah. So instead, it changes it by like 30 degrees, and he launches it off a cliff. No. Into, like, into, you know, it's probably like a 40-foot drop and a bunch of trees, like gone. You're never getting that.

Gone. So he looks over like he's getting ready to climb down there. And my partner and I, I mean, we're all jacked up at this point. Like, this is their only hope, and the guy doesn't have a putter. Yep. Literally doesn't have a putter.

So he's, like, getting ready to climb down. They're like, buddy, you're going to die if you go try to get that putter. ends up he three putts loses doesn't have a putter on the last he can't play with a putter he doesn't have a putter on 18 either his partner's in his pocket two on 18 the guy has to put with his wedge doesn't make a putty he needs to make we ended up winning a bunch of money fucking shout out to my boy phil we won that that match and yeah guy threw his butter off the cliff it was great that's awesome yes you should have gone to let him like let him try and go get it just see what happens i felt kind of bad but like you threw your putter off a cliff

like what the fuck you want me to do that's on you buddy um i got another guy ever at who just kind of brought up an interesting question. He said, basically he and his friends play different sets of T's, or they like to at least. His buddy's play like around 6,000 yards. This guy likes to play like 67 to 6,900, he said. Very specific ever it is. He's like, what do you do?

I'm curious what your opinion on this is. Because when I play with my friends, we all are pretty much the same level. So we all play always from the same T's. But I could see a situation where, like, you would, if you're so much better than everyone you're playing with, that you want to just play from different T's. Is that? You have to be way better to pull that off, I feel like.

So I do have a buddy who's like a plus two or three handicap, which is, you know, he's phenomenal. Yeah. He's, you know, six, seven, eight shots better than I am at least. And he, when we'll play courses, he will always play the tips no matter what. And so, like, if we play with his dad and sometimes, that's the only time I can ever even imagine. But he's a pretty serious golfer.

So whenever we're playing, it's very serious in nature. So it's not a big deal to play from different T's and all that. typically this is a psychotic move. Okay. You all just play the same team. Yeah, you'd have to be a real jackass for you all to be kind of the same thing. I'm going back at tea. Totally bizarre.

You're like a, oh, hard, oh, you know, like, relax. So I would say just play up or like usually compromise somewhere in the middle or something like that. I feel like that's a really weird move to play different T's when you're in the same group. I think that would be the overwhelming opinion, I would hope. Dennis asks, what's your guys' weirdest match play story? He said he was playing high school match play at Middle Bay, Oceanside, New York, says there are several holes on the bay, hit his ball on the green, when all of a sudden a seagull, which he points out, is the worst creature in the world. A seagull tries to eat it, kicked it, nibbled at it, then picked it up, and dropped it in the water. Pretty wild.

Also pretty wild for him to say seagull is the worst creature in the world. This guy hates seagulls. Maybe I can understand that it's being in front of you from like a city probably, because seagulls are fucking everywhere, right? Yeah, I think, yeah, Seagulls are vicious. Like, they eat, they attack and eat your shit no matter what. I always, when I go do a buddy's tripping Newport, shout out Newport. We got a bunch of Newport people at this company. Newport, Rhode Island.

Never been there, but I hear great things. Seagulls are vicious up there. Yeah, see, I'm from a place where the seagulls aren't as cutthroat because, oh, producer Rob's got something to say. I got a chime in about seagulls. Okay, Rob. Here we go. So speaking of. Octagon Bob with the seagulls story.

I trounce seagulls is the octagon. Sometimes things get caught on your... Sometimes things get caught on your hand, like you were talking about the guy with the putter. Yep. That happened to my mom. We were crabbing, you know, fishing for crabs. Crabbing?

No. Crabbing? Crabbing. And so... I already don't know where this is going. She threw a piece of meat, like, looking to throw it into the lake for the Seagulls, threw it straight up, came straight down onto the dock. Many people there.

Seagull swarmed. Oh, no. My little cousins were there. My little cousins were there. My little cousins. at this point, they're like 14 and 15, and they have PTSD about the Siegel incident. They're traumatized of Seagulls. Just millions of vicious Seagulls.

They're bad, man. So we always have an issue every year we're dumb asses. We do this. We leave like one bag of garbage out on the deck on accident. Come back in the morning. It's World War fucking three out there. I mean, these things are vicious. So anyway, Dennis has Seagull just straight up, just put his ball, dropped his ball in the water.

or said his playing competitor was fine with it, and they just replayed it and all that. But asked basically if we have any wild match play stories. Nothing as wild as that. No, I do not. The closest thing I can say is one time I got really mad at my brother because on 18, I made a putt to force extra holes against him. Okay.

And he was mad at me, and he went, and when I made it, he went to pull my ball out of the hole and he threw it into a lake. And we had a huge fight about it afterwards. I'm very superstitious guy. So I was like, I wanted to use that ball for the playoff because, like, I'm hot right now. That's my hot, my hot hand, hot ball. Yeah.

You threw it into a fucking lake. So we, shit, like, got into a serious arguing match about the legality of it. You can't just take somebody's ball and throw it to the lake. You certainly cannot do that. So we ended up, but the round was over. So it was like, what do you do? So, you know, we ended up, I don't remember who won or whatnot. But I remember we had, like, a 10-minute shouting match just two.

of us playing. Me being like, you threw my ball in a fucking lake. You can't do that. No. Riggs is brother. You can't do that. No. You really cannot do that.

And then we got one more. This is a good story. This guy is a really good story. What's up guys? Working at a golf course. You see some ridiculous shit happened throughout the summer. But one thing from last season stands out above the rest for me. A member who had recently decided to pick the game backup had a lesson with our head

pro. He was a little out there. but a good guy, just a little quirky. Anyways, shows up 30 minutes early for his lesson. Not a problem, but our pro was giving another lesson, so I set his clubs up on a cart and told him he was more than welcome to start warming up, and our pro would be with him soon. He looked at me, walked into the clubhouse, only to return 30 minutes later,

out of breath and sweaty. Turns out he took warm up as go run in the treadmill and full golf apparel. I mean, I'm dubious about this guy because he's picking the game. backup. Right. He's not, if it was a new player, it's like, warmup could literally mean anything, maybe even going and sprinting on a treadmill in full golf apparel. The full golf apparel is great.

Yeah. Like khakis and like a nice striped polo. I'm picturing him in a light polo and then it's just dark once he gets out of there because there's so much sweat. Like I'm warmed up, coach, let's do this. Yeah. It's so bizarre for him to be picking the game backup. So he's a previous player and he still doesn't realize warm up is just like,

go out there, hit a few balls, do whatever you want. He's like, nope, I'm going to go. sprint on the treadmill. See, only warm up the guy knows. Yeah, I thought that too. This guy must be a first timer, but apparently he's picking the game back up. Weird move. I have to respect it.

I mean, I'm sure, hopefully he had a good session after that. He probably just went home. He's like, I'm exhausted. I'm going home. That's from the gallery. Again, if you have anything, any stories, any questions, any little tricks and nuances and traditions that you have with your buddies, email us forplay at barcelesports. com.

Tweet us at 4Playpod. Instagram us at 4Play. and now on to WGC Del Match Play, Jet. All right, it's the WGC Del Match Play Week. One of the more unique weeks on tour. Definitely. Exciting stuff. We just watched about the first half of the selection show.

We were planning on watching the whole thing. We didn't know it was a fucking marathon. Yeah, I thought it was going to be 30 minutes, and they stretched it out to an hour and a half. I get what they're trying to do. March, March madness. People love brackets. Brackets are out in the streets of this time of year.

But, I mean, not when you're just picking golfers for an hour and a half. That's not great. Picking golfers on ping pong balls with just numbers on the ping pong balls. I mean, we're golf guys. We have a golf podcast. We very much like golf. That's been well documented. We couldn't even watch the whole thing.

We were like, fuck this. We're leaving. We're going to do the rest of the show. You bring up a good point about the balls just having numbers on them. If they had the player on it, it would be much more. like instant gratification. But it's number gets sucked up. A guy spins it with his giant hand in the TV.

And then the guy has to get the name from the list. And it's like, by that point, I'm already out. Way too much for guys like us. Way too much. Just give us a name. Give us a group. Maybe just release the brackets. Also just release them earlier so we have time to do them.

Yeah, we can do them. Maybe we could even set something up. But nope, we only, these brackets are going to be out for like a couple hours before we're ready to go. So I think they might have overdone it a little. little bit we uh we're laughing like not necessarily the all-star kind of entertainment crew up there either when they rolled out a couple good guests we were talking about j t yep he was good he was good he was talking about his uh his fits that he was throwing i think down to mexico a couple other places where he's taking some heat on twitter kind of got into it a lot like normally that's a passing

question where you're like oh yeah you know i you know my emotion he's the best me but i'm just trying to play my game he had like a 45 second answer where he's like I want to be a role model. I want to do this. Yes, I'm an emotional person. I'm a fiery, this and that. Fuck it, Justin Thomas. Just do whatever you want.

It's entertaining. Do your thing. Luckily, he followed it up with, like, you know, people, in order for me to be that upset when I'm bad, that's also what fuels me to be that jacked up when I'm good. And that could not be more correct. We want emotions. We want clubs throwing. We want fist pumping.

I mean, that's, you got to have that. I mean, you can have a couple of Jason Duffner's where they're just like not too high, not too low or no emotion at all. but I want guys out there who care. I want to see it. Yeah, so they rolled out JT. They rolled out Spieth. They rolled out Rory, who, I mean, Yoked.

He looked jacked. He looks great. Yeah. I want to pick him every time I see him. Does that make sense? Yeah, every time you, yeah. Yeah, he gives you more confidence in him when you see him physically. Because he used to be this, you know, kind of dork, droopy, like, huge mop on his head.

People forget. Pudgy. And now he's. He's fucking ripped. People forget, if you go back and look at old Rory photos, it's tough for him. Like U.S. Open victory, Rory at Congressional is like chubby, you know, goofy looking Rory. And now he's like alpha male fucking Jack. I've even heard that was one of the big motivators behind him, like, getting in shape.

And it helps your golf game being healthy. You eat right. You look better. But also you just look good out there. I think that's, I mean, part of it is that, I would imagine. It's helped him because he was. roasting the golf ball this last weekend. Yep. He had, I think, ninth hole.

He had long drive of the weekend, 383 or something like that. Hasn't played much golf at all this year. Has not played at all, and he's still in the hunt in the mix. Had he not three jacked on 18, which we saw about earlier, or which we talked about earlier. He was right there. So he's my pick for this weekend. We haven't seen all the groups yet. No, we have not.

We did, I think, the group of death that people are talking about, it's a Matsuyama, Oostazen, Ross Fisher, and Jim Furek. Killer group. Solid group. Jim Vurek shot a 58 and a 59 and won a U.S. Open before, and he's won, I think, 20-plus times on tour. Hadeki is, I mean, one of the hottest golfers in the world. He had that stretch the end of last year, beginning of this year, where he won, like,

four times. Yeah. However many six, seven, eight events, whatever the hell it was. And the ones he didn't win, he was finishing right up there at the top. All you never know with matchplay, sometimes, like, sometimes random guys will be good at matchplay and like the top players won't be that's not the case with rory rory is awesome at all terms of golf but you know you get random guys who are good at match play might come out of nowhere yeah they mentioned it on the really cool uh selection show was it nick o'ern who's beaten tiger twice yep

so random shit like that uh it's match play it's it's you know it's it's one of those things right where you can in a stroke play event if you shot like a 74 you're out of the tournament uh-huh and this you might shoot 74 the guy you're playing against shoot 75 and you advance and you know and then you might have a day where you shoot 64 the guy shoot 63 and you lose that's matchplay that's how it works luckily with the new format it's a little bit kind of less do or die in that you get three days the pod system best record out of the four of you over three matches each and advances this is the second year that they're doing it in Austin yep I'm jacked up last year's was awesome J-Day took a day down. Rory was right in the mix. I wish they would do more of these events. I don't see why they don't. It's crazy they don't do more match play. I know that they're doing the Zurich, which is, we looked it up because we're capital J's.

It's stroke play. Half of the days are alternate shot. Half of the days are best ball. I wish they would do a team match play event. It's insane that they don't. The more they mix it up, the better it'll be because you obviously can't replicate the rider cup. That's just a whole different thing.

But the more elements you can push into the tournament on a more regular basis will get people more involved with golf. The team aspect is great. The match play aspect is even better. I think that's, they're really trying to hone in on the schedule. I think that's the one thing. If they had a team match play event on tour, you had guys every year entering their same squad,

which, I mean, they're definitely getting at it with the Zurich. They made that match play. I'd be over the moon, Trent. You'd be over the, wow, over the moon. Over the moon. Yeah, you said you're picking Rory. It's, I got to go Captain America, Patrick Reed, because, just because he's got big old balls in a vet like this. It's hard not to pick Patrick Reed and match play.

He's that guy, too, that he'll, like his shitty day will be when the guy is playing against us has a shitty day. Uh-huh. He'll just beat you by one. That's all it takes. And we want to say as well that we haven't seen, I haven't seen any picks from Capfather. No text. He's gone dark. I you know in his defense

the groups came out late and all that but we're kind of flying might have to do a week off of catfather this he hasn't been as hot as he has been he's a victim of his early success big time so people are coming for his throat I know I feel bad for catfather but I kind of do so we're gonna we'll take a week off cat father just kind of give our own and you know hopefully chin up champ

I saw some emotional tweets out of cat father I also saw some people sent me that he's blocking people. I saw it. So he's good. I wasn't sure if we were going to bring that up. I've gotten a few people being like they barely sent anything to him and he just blocks them, which not fan of blocking here at Barstow's. So not sure what we're going through with Capfather, but we just made our own picks this week. It should be great.

It's an extra day of golf. It's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Then Saturday you get into the elimination rounds, which is you got a. You got to win four, you got to play four matches in two days, 36 holes a day to win. Yes. So it's a battle. Yeah.

If you want it, it's the best, you know, sort of like dick measuring that you can get. Like one-on-one mono-e-mono, alpha male type stuff, which, you know, I love that stuff. And when you can get it in golf. Yeah. So they're down in Austin. I'm going to be there the week after they are putting on a, of course, of very embarrassing, I'm sure, display of golf. So yeah, it should be good. You got anything else?

I don't think so. Enjoy the golf this weekend. This is one of the events where, you know, it's must-see TV. Match play, get your brackets in. Watch guys go mono-o-a-mano. I think that's it. I think that'll do it. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard.