Fore Play - ‘What are they gonna say now?!’
Episode Date: August 16, 2022Will Zalatoris wins a wild playoff. Cam Smith withdraws from the BMW Championship with a “hip injury” just a day after a delayed “penalty.” We discuss players’ choices between creating a ful...l-on golfer brand vs simply cashing LIV checks. Frankie locks he & his dad outside in Pebble. Scott Fawcett goes nuts on Twitter. And which players would you pick to fight in a PGA vs LIV trial by combat?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Oh, there's Borrelli.
Holy fuck, dude.
Frankie.
What a hoodie, great hoodie.
Thank you.
Team Taylor made.
What a fucking morning.
You just can't make this shit up that this happens to me.
It's just never easy.
It's just, it's always something that goes the wrong way.
You want to make her right and you somehow miss the exit.
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We are back and yeah, I guess I would say the show starts only the way that this show could start.
We just have myself, we have Trent Ryan, we got Lurch, and we got a text message from Frankie Borelli right when we were about to start that says,
you're never going to believe this, but my dad and I just got locked out, stuck outside with no clothes on.
So, so yeah, I don't know when Frankie's going to be on, but we're,
just not going to wait for him. And I imagine when he comes in, he's going to come in quite hot based on
his experience. So for those people that don't know, I don't know if we've talked about on the show
or not. I honestly can't remember. Frankie and his dad right now are out at Pebble Beach.
Frankie surprised his dad with a little getaway to Pebble Beach. He told him just last week. He's been
planning this whole thing. He wanted to take his dad to Pebble Beach. He wanted to stay out there.
He wanted to play a couple rounds of golf just to do something nice for his dad. Everybody knows
Mr. Borelli is the greatest guy in the world.
He works 367 days a year, never takes a break, never does anything.
And Frankie's like, I'm going to plan this whole trip and surprise my dad.
He finally told him, I believe Friday was the first time he had said to his dad,
hey, I planned this whole thing.
His daddy told me, Frankie said, his dad said that like Frank, Mr. Brelie is a crier, right?
But he didn't even cry.
He was so stunned.
He was like, is this actually happening to me?
and it was Frankie's birthday.
So Mr. Perelty was a little confused.
But anyway, they're out there at Pebble.
I guess they were outside the house that they're staying at and enjoying the view.
And they somehow locked themselves out of the house.
So whenever Frankie joins, he joins.
Could be never, could be in 10 minutes.
Yeah, that's Borelli.
It's going to be hot, too, because I don't know where he's staying.
I don't know who solves that puzzle.
Like, he's not at a resort.
He's at kind of like an Airbnb rental.
So it's like, I don't know who you.
get keys to let them in.
So it's just a TBD, but he's going to be hot.
There's not like a passcode, right?
I don't think there's a pass code.
You got to have a key.
And if, yeah, he, I mean, look, this is just the way that Borelli's going to start,
going to start this show.
Really nice thing that he's doing.
He's out there with his pops.
They're at Pebble.
They're playing Pebble.
They're experiencing the whole place.
And, you know, he's going to miss the podcast because they locked themselves out looking
at the view.
So that's just, you know, well, he'll jump in when he jumps in.
We got a lot to get to.
We just had breaking moves, literally, as we started to record the podcast, a little notification came across the wire, as they say.
Cameron Smith has withdrawn from the B&W championship due to a hip injury.
Obviously, there's a lot of connotations to this news and everything that's going on.
So we'll get to that.
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A lot to get to.
Extremely exciting finish to the PGA Tour's first playoff event yesterday,
which was interesting because there's a lot going on,
as there has been all year.
A lot of saltiness, I would say,
from, you know, the entire live tour,
chirping about the leaderboard, about Memphis,
about how the tournament's not that great.
There's nobody in contention.
Rory misses the cut.
Where are your stars at now?
And they kind of had some points.
And then all of a sudden, the PGA tour
proved really why the PGA tour is the PGA tour
and why ultimately I think it's prevailing
and it's the side that I'm on thus far
is because it fucking matters.
And yesterday mattered.
You had Wills Alatoris trying to get his first win ever.
He's been so close.
He's been in a bunch of playoffs.
at major championships.
He burned the edge at the U.S. Open.
He had his run at the Masters last year.
So Will's Alatoris, kind of a rising star all over the place,
trying to get this win to the point where he's got like Tiger-esque yelling at the fucking camera,
essentially after he makes a putt in one of the craziest things I've ever seen,
what are they going to say now?
I don't know if you put that on a fucking t-shirt.
Maybe we'll have to with our cool, you know, little design that we put out yesterday.
But point is three-hole playoff, all kinds of drama,
on a tournament that, again, wasn't that sexy overall,
didn't seem like it was going to be that awesome,
was must watch television last night,
as this thing concluded.
So I thought at the end of the day,
huge win, obviously for Will's Al Torres,
but overall for the tour,
fucking dream finish, all things considered.
Yeah, I think so.
They also, like, drummed up their own news
by giving, like, Cam Smith, a penalty.
So, you know, like you alluded to that coming out,
and then the finish, and a couple rock walls,
and then the put, and what are we going to say now?
and he goes absolutely apeshit.
But, yeah, it was a heck of a finish for what seemed to be kind of like a lackluster,
I guess midway point going into the weekend.
But yeah, I mean, it was a great finish.
And so the playoff will roll on.
But Cam Smith, and we'll talk about it more, will not be part of it due to a vague hip issue,
just like a vague drop issue.
So pretty good.
I was thinking about it.
Lid tournaments, they're 54 holes.
They end on Saturday, yeah?
Is that right?
Okay.
So I was thinking about that.
Like if they're, and we've talked about Liv versus PJ Tour endlessly, but it's hard to avoid.
If you are actually a business, a golf business that you're trying to start a new league and that you want people to pay attention to.
And I get that they don't have TV deals.
Maybe that's coming down the road for Live in the future.
I don't know.
But I was thinking about it yesterday with the ending of that tournament with the playoffs.
Having some, having the golf tournament end on a Sunday is so.
ingrained into TV watching DNA, that that is a leg up for the PGA tour, regardless of what
happens. Like, think about, even if, even if live with the players that they have, they, if they have
like a barn burner of a finish and it's like, holy shit, they are on the 27th playoffal of this
tournament. It's a Saturday. Like, people aren't, people don't give a fuck about golf on a Saturday.
And it just lends credence, more credence to the fact that I think they're not trying to make a
legitimate business. They're just trying to sports wash and all that shit. Having a golf tournament
that ends on a Saturday that nobody cares about is a recipe for nobody watching. Having a golf tournament
that ends on a Sunday that everybody knows is ending on a Sunday. Like a lot of people, a lot of
casual fans I would imagine weren't paying attention until maybe the playoffs started and then certainly
once the part three started going crazy or even the drives on the first two playoff holes were pretty
nuts. Like then people start tuning in. I just don't think you can have that at all with this
rival live tour. That just doesn't happen on a Saturday. People are out. People on a boat.
They're doing whatever. Sunday, people are hungover. They're sitting there. And they know that
golf is potentially going to be on. So as soon as people start tweeting, holy shit, camps or not
Camp Smith. Willie Z and Stalk are going head to head. There's some crazy bounces happening.
People tune in. I just don't think you get that with another tour, with another tour.
Yeah, it picks up on social, right?
I mean, that's kind of where the bat signal comes from is like you start seeing people
are tweeting like Big Cat's getting into it.
When Big Cat's getting in the arena on golf tweeting, like clearly it's relevant.
And that only happens on Sundays.
You're right.
And on Saturday, if you're trying to get a tournament any eyeballs or interest or whatever
on a Saturday, there's really no time in the year to even do it.
In the summer, everybody's out.
Everybody's out.
Nobody's sitting at their house doing anything.
And then in the fall, you're going to go up against college football.
nobody's going to watch it or care.
And so you're right.
It's almost like they're going to have to eventually go up against the PGA tour
if they want to try to act like this is some kind of viable business.
And I just don't know, you know, it's like, live is almost,
live pretty much is a new competitor's version of what the tour did with the FedEx Cup, right?
Where they just like threw money at it to try to make it important.
And it's just not important.
And the PGA tour, it has worked to a degree.
agree with the FedEx Cup. I mean, that event did feel a little bit more important than it otherwise
would have for sure. But it was really the raw emotion of Willie Z and how much it meant to him
to win. Like he was crying afterwards. He's up there with his fiance. He's screaming at the camera
because of how important or at the, you know, whatever the crowd. That shit was so raw and real.
And none of that was entrenched in like how much he was going to make. Nobody was talking about
that. Nobody cared about that. It was literally about like him winning on the PGA tour.
was a childhood dream.
He's been so close.
He finally got to do it.
There is not one moment from any live coverage yet that meant anything close to that,
no matter how much money they're playing for.
And that is the thing that you can't replicate.
Now, it's early.
Obviously, a few events in.
Lives had like three events, whatever fuck it's been.
Obviously, you can't expect them to have all this legacy and importance and meaning to
like their wins.
You got to build from it.
I'm sure the first PJ tour event of all time didn't feel like this last one.
totally get that. But they got such a long way to go for it to in any way matter like that
meant to Willie Z. And he said afterwards, paraphrasing, you know, no amount of guaranteed money
could ever make me feel the way that I feel right now. And I think that is at the end of the day
the ultimate difference between PJ Tour and Liv is that as much shit as we've given the PJ
tour. We've been banned from tournaments. Trent and I have had to wear disguises to try to get in
because we've had so many run-ins with the BGA door.
Their events matter from just a pure legacy and childhood dream
and you get to play a game for a living vantage point.
And Live just does it.
It was pretty amazing how little they talked about the money on the broadcast yesterday.
Like it was all about Willie Z got his first win.
He's emotional.
And then as they were signing out, they're like,
and he got $2.7 million.
It was like, whoa.
Like we had hubs who works at Barstool and Barstool Nate.
They were on Twitter talking about it.
being like, it's incredible that they don't talk about that more, but it goes to what you're saying,
Riggs, where there's all this other stuff with it with Willie Z where he's been knocking on the
door for so many months now. He's gotten so close. And then he finally breaks through in this
playoff and he's crying on the green. And then the money is just an afterthought. Now, I know that's
not how it is with everybody. And we don't have our live representative, Frankie Borelli, on this
podcast right now. So, so, but he would say like, well, he's, you know, he's Willie Z.
and he, you know, he's wanted this forever,
but put somebody else in their place,
and they're going to be like, holy fuck,
I just want $2.7 million.
So it is case by case,
but it worked out for the tour yesterday
that Willie Z is just this perfect story,
this perfect storm of,
when is this guy going to win?
And then he won it in such a crazy way.
Do you think now it's easier for Willie Z
to potentially go to him?
Because I totally get your point, right?
PJ Tor, prove them to yourself.
You win.
Epic stage.
That's insane.
However, now, like, live is almost like a retirement paycheck tour.
You know, like, there's a lot of good that kind of comes with all that money.
And do you think the mindset now, winning on the PGA tour, it's easier to maybe make that
transition to live.
I'm not saying he's going to do it.
But I definitely think that now it is easier for him because it's not in front of him
that he hasn't accomplished.
That's interesting.
But, well, Cam Smith and Wilsout's horse are too interesting.
people to me in this whole thing, especially with all the rumors surrounding Cam Smith,
is he going to go to live? Is he not this hip injury? We're going to talk about that. I don't know
what that's all about. But like, I understand people calling it a retirement tour because all these
old guys who are kind of on the other side of the hill are going there. And then you look at Cam Smith
or Willis Al Torres and the conversation around them leaving is this would be a big deal for the PJ
tour and live because now you've got young, up and coming guys who have these huge careers in front of
them that are potentially going to make the jump. I just like if you're cam Smith or really z,
we can talk about them in the same breath. Like, your earning potential, I understand that that
$100 million check is right there for Cam Smith or however much it is for really Z. But with the
upside of a cam Smith in particular, how much could you make? And I guess this is the Jim Furek example
that we talked about last show. Like how much could you potentially make if you just stay around and
you keep cash in these checks? You're so good. You're so good. And
If you just rack up a bunch of wins each season on the PJ tour, like, is that going to end up being more than 100 million?
Probably, but it's so enticing to just look at a check.
And they're saying, here's $100 million right now.
But you don't have to work obviously as hard for it.
But the earning potential for a guy that can't spend feels like it's way higher if you stay on the PJ tour.
I think it's a better question of like your brand equity.
You know what I mean?
Like if he wins, because I don't know, winning on the PGA tour.
if that's ever going to take over what you could potentially win on the Live Tour.
You know what I'm saying?
But I do think the brand side of it is could Cam Smith develop his brand into a billion
brand or a half billion dollar brand on the PGA Tour?
And on the Liv Tour, can he only develop that brand into $100 million?
Like, I would say that there's a bigger gap there of what he could do for himself playing
on the live tour just because of like the political headwinds.
This is an interesting point that Brandl has been making,
and he clearly has liked to make a lot of points throughout this entire ordeal.
But, you know, he makes the point that three of the top four highest earning athletes in history are golfers.
It's Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicholas, are two, three, four behind Michael George.
So clearly there is, right, like Arnold Palmer in his final years, too,
was still making like $50 million a year or something.
But he had that effing drink.
I mean, he's got the Army.
Totally, but that's the point is that you can build a brand.
Brandl's point has been that golf, right?
Like the, the characteristics and qualities around golf are considered to be respectable
and something that you look up to, right?
Like golfers are gentlemen of society and have high integrity and like all the bullshit.
Moral compass of piner's.
I mean, that's right.
That's like the golf fucking, that's the cream of the crop.
golf is that sort of what you are and so it's you you can become so marketable but it what's what is
interesting about that version of golf right is that the guys that are very cognizant of building a
brand i think are way more inclined to stay on the tour because that's part of their DNA like
morocawa he has said on our show that like part of the reason he comes to the show is because he
understands brand building as a young you know golfer and part of the reason he was
wanted to do the suit thing when he showed up to Liberty is because like he's focused on
curating a certain brand whereas another guy like a Cam Smith I think he just wants to go fly
fishing and play golf and there's a reason that like um john rom right is by all measures like
a better golfer than rickie faller john rom will have a better career he's got a major he's got
a bunch of wins he was number one in the world but rickie fowler is way way bigger from a
marketing branding standpoint than john rom will ever be and that's so that if you want
to play that game and it's cool and it's part of who you are, then I think you're way more inclined
to stay on the tour.
But if you don't, if you just, like, if golf's almost just a job for you for the most part,
like, I think it's really easy for you to just say, fuck yeah, I'm going to go to live.
All the marketing part of it is gone.
The branding is gone.
It doesn't matter.
They pay you $100 million.
You don't need $500,000 from Taylor Made.
You don't need, okay.
It's hope.
You make, your checks cleared.
It's done.
And all you have to do is show up play golf slash party.
basically. It's a 54-hole fucking shotgun.
It's like a, it's like less serious than the Barstool Classic at this point.
And you're getting paid however many millions.
And so, so I think like as we're starting to see kind of the Domino's fall or the chips fall, which on which side, you know, they are,
it's, it's almost becoming a little bit more you could tell a year ago who is really into to the total brand building and thus is going to maximize their potential on the PGA tour.
because, right, a certain, a huge percentage of golfers' earnings is not from the prize pool.
It's like Tiger's a billion dollar.
He's become a billion dollar athlete twice because of the divorce and all that.
And he's only made $120 million on the golf course or whatever it is.
So like that's fucking, we're saying that's 90% of his earnings or whatever has to come from off the golf course.
If you don't want to deal with any of that shit, go to live, be a Patrick Reed, be a Sergio Garcia, right?
Those are guys with pretty shitty brands who people like don't like.
and they're just on live making a ton of money
and they don't have to worry about anything else.
That's a really good point.
I guess that's what makes,
I guess that's what makes Phil so fascinating, right?
Because he's totally.
He's totally.
Yeah,
but that's been clear always.
Like his like the undercarriage of Phil
has always been a little bit sketchy.
Like I don't think.
Like so I don't think that's as big of a shock.
But he's been a big brand builder.
That's like been his thing.
He's not real.
He's all about his brand.
He is,
but he's a selfish money-making.
I would say at the apex.
Like brand builder, yes, that fits into how much money can I pull in?
Like this, how much money can I?
I think, I don't think it's like you have to dig too far to think of Bill in that way.
Yeah.
I feel like he's a guy that you can be like, yeah, I would say he's probably selfishly for money now.
I would argue that that whole thing, like the top of the mountain for all of them is like how much money can I make?
I would imagine.
Like, even all this stuff that we're talking about with Moracow where he's like,
I want to build my brand.
Like,
the end of that road,
there's a dollar sign.
So,
but it's,
it's just the way you go about doing it.
This Cam Smith thing,
and I guess we can get to the hip injury now,
like he's,
he's gone.
I would imagine,
especially with,
Riggs,
that point you made about a guy,
like just a general gut feeling on how you feel about a guy and how he wants to
make his money.
It does seem like Cam Smith is kind of,
like as interesting as he,
would appear from the outside. He's got the mullet. He's just, he's got this incredible game.
He's got this beautiful swing. I do think he just kind of wants to make as much money as he can
and kind of fade into the background. As crazy as that sounds for how young he is. Yeah. I,
no, I agree. I think, and it is, we're over generalizing and just throwing people into like two
buckets basically. I'm sure, you know, a lot of people are somewhere in between and like, we don't
know Camp Smith that well, but I do think from talking to Trevor Emelman, he comes off that way. I'm
like I want to hit good golf shots and make a ton of money.
And I don't really care about it.
I don't want to be on a Wheaties box.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
Like, he's not,
like,
Cam Smith's not on social media,
right?
I don't know.
Out that I know.
He's not on Twitter.
He's on Instagram,
but like,
yeah,
he's definitely not active.
And I,
yeah,
I would say Cam and just like,
he almost falls into like,
you know,
now it's like,
yeah,
just throwing buckets of people,
like,
kind of a DJ bucket in a sense
where he's just like,
he'd prefer to hang out and fish and just relax.
And,
you know,
I was just like thinking about why it's 54 holes and ends on Saturday.
It was like the pitch because if you have a family, you can fly home on Sunday and be there for like Monday morning to take your kids to school.
Like I don't know what it is because it is an interesting like when you think about sports that maximize certain times of the year and like August is always one that it's kind of like a gap month.
The most crucial time for golf is literally like Sunday after like noon Eastern where people are now returning home for.
from their weekend trips, they lazily put on the golf and they're just like,
who do we have this week?
They really haven't checked in too much.
And like, that's the market.
So it is, I was just kind of thinking about as you guys are talking like, what is the
sell?
Do they like truly not care or was it like, hey, players, not only are we going to pay you
all this money, but like Saturday night, you can fly home.
You can be with your families on Sunday.
I don't know.
We're being careful about the bucket thing, but I actually think it's more true than even
we're letting off.
I think it is true, the more we talk about it.
Patrick Reed.
Bryson DeShambeau, Brooks Kepka, DJ.
If you look at the through line of all those guys,
it's pretty much I want to make as much money as I can,
and I'm fucking sick of dealing with the social media branding side of this whole thing.
Dude, it's so true.
Think about those guys.
Think about how active Phil and Brooks Kepka used to be on Twitter,
and they just don't tweet and they're just out on it.
Like that was clearly calculations for years,
and they're just like, oh, I don't have to do that shit.
I'm out.
Right.
And if you like, obviously I've been on Riggs aside and, you know, of the, with, in terms of PJ Tour or Liv, but even not on Frankie's side, which.
Yeah.
But if you, but then that's a fascinating thing about Liv is like PJ Tour was just this, the only boat going down the river, right?
It's just going down the river.
People are making pretty good money, but there's these commitments they have to do with the brands and the partners when you go to these tournaments and the pro amps.
And then this other yacht just starts rolling next to you.
And it's like, hey, if you want to jump over here, you.
and do less and get paid a ton of money, do that.
It's like I am not, I don't agree with where the money comes from and any of that stuff,
but it's a wild opportunity for these golfers that no other league of sports has ever seen,
really, where it's just this new thing that you can go do.
And it's at the end of the day, it's an opportunity and a few of these guys have taken it.
Yeah, and it also cuts out the risk.
I mean, like, God forbid a hip injury shows up and you can't play golf again.
You know what I mean?
So maybe Camp Smith is.
super calculate on this one. But like that is like the risk of that. Like I do think a more successful
career PGA tour is a better route to go like and potentially like to Riggs's point and like
Brandl's point is you can make more money potentially that way. If you like execute to the nines,
but it just takes all the risk out of it to take a check for a hundred million dollars. You can pretty
much do whatever you want now. You know, and like there I mean it makes sense in many different ways,
honestly.
We got some hip injury to talk about.
I hope nobody gets a hip injury and we go to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina,
beginning of September.
We're going to be there.
One of the from the gallery questions is actually about Frankie's elbow.
What's the update with his elbow?
He just only seemed to be injured for that one day.
So speaking about injuries, I'm hoping that nobody ends up with a hip injury.
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Go get them, Larch.
Good luck out there.
See you, bye-bye.
Go get them.
It's a little OG show here.
It's just Trent Ryan and Sam Rigg.
Buzayan from Marshall Sports here. It's just the two of us. So Cam Smith is clearly all over the place.
And it's, I was just kind of thinking about this when you guys were finishing up the discussion pre-ad
read there is that Cam Smith is such an interesting case because no one's been on the level
that he's on that has gone to live. Right. Like he is the number two ranked player in the world.
I think if he won yesterday, he was maybe going to go to number one, I think I saw.
or if he wins FedEx Cup, he's going to go to number one in the world and remove Scotty Sheffler.
So a person of that caliber being taken away from the PGA tour, I think even DJ gone, like, fine, they can allow it.
I think even Phil gone, fine, they can allow it in the way that it went down and I know that they had much of a choice.
Clearly a bunch of the other guys, the retirement tour, Taylor Gouch, see you later.
But I think Cam Smith, tour is like, this is a problem.
and we can't have the Cam Smith's going away.
And so we've got a couple things in succession that have occurred now.
The penalty yesterday, Sunday, was laugh out loud funny.
When that one came across the wire, I mean, I'm not convinced that it was suspicious.
I'm not.
But the fact that I can't remember the last time I saw someone get penalized the next day,
two strokes for a penalty that happened from a sketchy drop in the middle of their round.
They weren't told during the round.
they weren't told after the round.
They were told the next day right before they teed off.
And it happens to be the guy in the hottest public water in golf.
Can you remember the last time you really saw that?
No, no.
It's such a crazy set of circumstances that I actually don't think it could be recreated in the past,
maybe in the future, but certainly not in the past.
And what was he at 12 under?
Yeah, he's right there.
He was like the favorite to win.
Yeah, 12 under.
I think the, you know, the winners yesterday,
We're at 15 under that sent him to a playoff.
So he's in the mix.
And we've talked about on this show, like we've played out every scenario when it comes to Cam Smith within the last week or two being like, am I going to live?
People are asking him.
He's like, I don't want to talk about that right now.
The worst case scenario would have been Cam Smith winning this first event because then it's, this guy is taking all of the money.
And he's potentially, once this whole thing is wrapped up, he's going to go catch a $100 million check from live.
So with all that put together, the conspiracy theories were abound on Twitter.
And I get it because it is such an interesting circumstance that he gets penalized for this,
you know, sort of gray area, weird thing, not until the next day.
I don't tell him.
And then he's back at 10 under.
He ends up not playing that well.
And, you know, he's probably not in a great mind state.
Like once that all happens, he ends up at, I think, nine under or something for the tournament.
Doesn't end up coming close to winning.
But if he doesn't get penalized and he plays well on Sunday,
day, there is a very, very real chance that Cam Smith wins the first event and all hell breaks
loose. Yeah, and him winning would be worst case scenario for the PGA tour. Great scenario just
from an objective golf viewer. You're rooting for chaos. You're rooting for storylines. That would be all
over ESPN. That would be everywhere. So he gets the penalty. Again, from what I understood, he
agreed that he didn't know the rule, like precisely, agreed that once he found
out the penalty was the right move, didn't fight it, and there was no controversy, as they say.
But then with the fact that we get this today, this is meaningful.
This withdrawal, like what they released is that his agent from Wasserman released that he's
had on and off discomfort, so he's withdrawing.
He's number three in the FedEx Cup.
There's no real golf on the PJ Tour to play until, I don't know, end of January.
January next year.
So he has to get through two more weeks of golf where he almost, he was in contention
and could have just won the fucking tournament yesterday.
If he didn't get the two-stroke penalty, play a little bit better on Sunday,
it could have easily won the golf tournament.
And then three weeks ago, he won, you know, the biggest tournament of the last decade,
the 150th at the old course at St. Andrews.
So clearly he's not in so much discomfort that he is withdrawing from this week's tournament.
There's more to the story now.
And it's, it is starting to almost recall in.
a question for me the penalty from yesterday because you're like,
now, I mean, the guy would, what, like, what is going on here? Is this pretty nefarious?
Is that safe to say? Yes, it is. The reason his hip hurts is because his wallet's got so much
money in it now that it's pulling him down and he just can't stand up straight. He's gone.
This, I don't know about the penalty. You could go back and look at it now because of this new hip
injury that he has, but he's just, he's gone, right? He's gone. He's gone. I think that's got to, I,
So do we think then, okay, let's let's, you know, let's get some conspiracy going here.
Do we think that essentially, right, like if you're the tour, and we spoke about this last week,
but if you're the tour and you know Cam Smith is going to go to live, can you, can you actively in real time do anything about it?
Or do you have to wait until he goes?
And so that leads me to the question of like, did they learn or were they able to unconstitutional?
cover in the last day or couple days or whatever, like proof did he sign something that's like,
we know it, you signed it.
Were they able to put them, you know, were they able to put them up to the fire and be like,
what's the deal?
Did you do this or not?
And he has to answer truthfully.
Otherwise, with all the legal stuff going on, there's ramifications.
And he was like, yes, I signed.
I'm supposed to be starting, you know, the day after the end.
Like, do we think they got to the bottom of something that has now allowed them to basically
be like, you're not, you're not playing in the FedEx cuff?
I like that. I actually, I don't know if it's true, but I like that angle.
Like Monaghan is hitting the law books being like, all right, what is the justification
that we can get him out of these tournaments? Like, are you saying that the PJ tour found
out that he may or may not have signed and then they went to him and were like, hey, we have this
legal precedent that says, if you have signed with Liv and you continue throughout these playoffs
and end up winning X amount of money, we are going to bring a legal case to your doorstep that
is going to try to bring all that money back to us
and it is going to be incredibly ugly
and he was like, my hip hurts.
Yes.
Like basically.
Because I think, right?
Like if on the most basic level,
if you're the tour and you know a week ago,
Cam Smith is going to live,
you do not want him in the FedEx Cup
because you cannot risk the possibility
of what you described earlier,
which is worst case scenario.
He wins an event.
He wins all the events.
He wins the FedEx Cup.
You cannot have that.
And then the next day goes to live.
So if you're the tour, you know that, your first objective is like we cannot let that happen.
How do you not let that happen?
Don't let him play.
But legally, you know, I don't know where you're at in terms of being able to not let him play.
So what I'm, you know, theorizing is that somewhere in the last four days or two days or hour when this fucking thing was announced, did they uncover something that they were able to present?
and basically say, you're not fucking playing because we know what's going on here.
We cannot have that.
You're not playing.
And here's why.
And if you want to try to play, we have X, Y, and Z that you're going to have to deal with,
you know, whatever the fuck that might be.
Because I think there's no way he's just choosing not to play because he's got a discomfort in his hip.
There's no fucking way.
Here's what we do know.
He didn't wake up today or in the last couple weeks being like my hip is.
or I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this.
Like the reason he is gone is not the hip.
I don't know how deep it goes.
We've played out a couple scenarios here that honestly sound pretty fucking likely.
But I know for a fact that the hip is not the reason that he is not playing next week.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Now,
it's pretty crazy.
Is it?
It's nuts.
And the guy's the reigning open champion.
He's number two in the world.
He's number three of the FedEx Cup standings.
Is it possible that he, because guys have sat out.
FedEx Cup before, but that was when there were like four events in a row. With three,
I feel like it's pretty stacked now where you have to play, right? Like, I feel like he falls
because they do the leaderboard. So it's like he, you know, he goes from, if he plays well this
week, being right up near the top because they started, fucking remember DJ starts like 10 under
bars insanity. Now he risks starting like five, seven shots back, whatever it might be. Whereas
if he played, he'd be right in the mix or near the top more. More. More.
than likely if he just play it.
So I feel like he's not, it's not a calculated like, I can afford to miss this.
It's not a big deal.
I think that this is a big deal that he's missing it.
You can't really afford to miss it.
If you're going to play and see the FedEx Cup through, you need to just play.
It's three fucking events.
And then like we were talking about, you're done for four months or whatever the hell it is.
And you go play live.
You go play the next couple handful of live events.
And now you're just a live guy.
But, yeah, he's not, he's not playing because of discomfort.
That's right.
We all agree on that, the two of us?
The two of us can agree on that.
I have a question, and I'd be curious to know anonymously,
and maybe, you know, I feel like you rub shoulders sometimes
with a few PJ tour players out there in Scottsdale.
No names, but has anybody had the opinion that they love seeing guys go to live,
especially at Cam Smith, because it dilutes the competition pool?
Like, the company line so far has been the reason I play on the PJ tour,
is that it's the best competition in the world that I want to be the best at my sport.
And the PJ tour right now is the only place with all of the best,
or at least the majority of the best players in the world are playing.
And that's why I golf.
That's why I get up in the morning.
That's why I practice.
That's why I hired a nutritionist.
That's why I hired a sports psychologist because I want to be the best because I'm playing
against the best people, the best golfers in the world.
Have you ever heard anyone say, like, I hope Kim Smith goes because it's going to make it
easier for me to win these gigantic purses out on the BJ door?
Back channels, absolutely.
And even deeper than that, like our guy,
Kyle Mterrant, right?
Like, he just vaults into the top 125 and got into the FedEx Cup.
I think he would have gotten there anyways on Merritt,
but he was really close because people were removed that were ahead of them in the
standings.
So it's like, you literally buy subtraction, you just advance.
You just climb the ladder by people disappearing.
So yeah, absolutely.
We actually had somebody submit a,
up from the gallery that was like, hey,
have we thought it all about the fact that we want everyone to go to live
so that when Tiger comes back,
it's just way easier for him to win.
He gets his 83rd win and it's over.
And we just,
he's got the most wins all the time.
I love it because when I was laying out that scenario just now,
I was like,
that the only person that gets hurt in that scenario is the fan.
Like, we don't, like, I don't care that, you know,
Cam Smith jumps and it makes it easier for somebody else,
a lower tier guy to win on tour.
The only guy that helps really is the lower tier guys as a fan.
And that's been one of our points about Live versus PGA is you're watching all these guys jump and they're getting all this money.
And there's people who are being like, let them go.
Let them get that money.
This is a free world.
It's a free country.
But the person that it's hurting is the fan because when you tune in on a Saturday or Sunday or whenever,
you're watching a product that is not as good as it was 12 months ago.
So that's the only issue with that.
But this angle that from the gallery question took sums all that or solves all those.
problems where it's you get the scales tip so much and lives direction and they get so much
talent that when 47 year old tiger woods comes back he can kind of just walk to his 83
i love it hey he shows up to like the windum in 2023 and it's like tiger woods you know
against fucking who know who the fuck knows would be in the field at that point but he just it's just
easier the guy i mean dillon that was dillin that's a minute of that he goes he's like he went
as far as say why aren't we rooting for this oh there's barrens
Kelly.
Holy fuck, dude.
Frankie.
What a hoodie, great hoodie.
Thank you.
Team Taylor made.
What a fucking morning.
You just can't make this shit up that this happens to me.
Like, it's just never easy.
It's just, it's always something that goes the wrong way.
You want to make it right and you somehow miss the exit.
Yeah, we're out here.
I surprised my dad with a trip out to Pebble Beach.
It was a big moment.
We did it like a night before.
my birthday. He wasn't expecting it at all. It was just it happened to work out that this week would
be best for him. I looked at his schedule. Nothing was going on at the restaurant. I'm like, I'm taking
my dad to Bevel Beach. It's just time. Like, I'm done just like sitting around and not doing it.
I'm just going to go do it. Like it's one of those like live life while you can live life moments where
it's like we're going to Pebble Beach. I don't care what you got going on. So book the trip,
got a tea time. We're playing on Tuesday. We're also playing MPCC. And like the hero of this entire story is Josh.
Josh Isner, Dad bought classic Josh, just the absolute legend of foreplay,
like the behind the scenes legend that no one really knows but knows the name of.
If you're a listener, you know that.
Lurch's boss's boss's boss's boss's boss.
Lurch's boss's boss who's just got the most immaculate house on the 18th hole of Spanish
Bay you've ever seen your entire life that happens to be his like summer home.
So he has this and I texted him being like, hey, you got any like places you think you know anything about it in like,
couple beach you got any like like Airbnbs that you would like like recommend he's like dude you
could just stay at my place I'm like oh wow wow I didn't even know that was an option dude
so so Josh couldn't have been more accommodating sent me um all he's like so excited that we're out
here because like that's I feel like one of the best parts of having a place like this is for other
people to like experience it right like he's got his family they come out here you can see like
he's got his kid stuff around here it's awesome how much of like a family guy he is I'm looking at crayons
and like all these like play stuff.
And but then also like now we get to come experience it.
And like my dad's looking at the views.
He can't believe this is a real place.
Monterey Peninsula is not a real place.
It's a movie set.
Driving through you're driving through the fog, windy roads.
It's a movie set.
It's like, yeah, it's just, it's fucking insane.
So we get here late last night.
We actually, like the car that we rented that was available was like a Tesla that drives itself.
So we just got driven by a car.
car all the way here. It was the craziest shit I've ever. What was that experience? Like, were you
nervous? Dude, your heart legitimately feels like it's going to explode when it's making turns.
Like, you're going 75 miles an hour on the highway and it's got to like go around a bend like next to
a like a median like divider and it just does it. And you're like, okay, I hope in two seconds it turns.
Like I hope it bends around the road. And you're like, if it doesn't, we're dead, but it does.
It just goes around. So yeah, it was fucking crazy. And it was like the coolest thing I've ever seen.
So electric cars are just the coolest shit ever.
You just get in them and you just drive.
There's no like on.
I was looking for the on button.
You just go.
Took us 20 minutes to start the car, by the way,
because there is no start in the car.
I just picture somebody stumbling upon the Foreplay podcast in 100 years
and throwing this episode on and listening to that portion being like,
electric cars and like we just get in them and they are going to be so advanced in 100 years
that they're going to, it's like we're talking about the, it's unbelievable.
how much they're going to be. Dude, it reminded me of the Bill Bird joke when he's talking about,
um, or my, it was, no, I think it's a Louis CK joke where he's like, when you didn't know that
something existed and then two minutes into it, you're already like complaining about it.
Like he's talking about, uh, airplane Wi-Fi where he's like, we can't get Wi-Fi up here,
40,000 feet in the air. Like, I just found out this existed 10 minutes ago, but you should definitely
have this up and running so I can watch all my movies. Um, like today, like yet last night,
I'm like, why, like, me and my dad, like, halfway through, like, a half an hour into the draft.
We're like, why is this thing not, like, changing lanes and, like, going the route that we want?
Like, you have to end up taking the wheel and, like, go off the exit.
We're like, why is this not stopping at stop signs?
Like, we were, like, mad that it wasn't doing more.
But, uh, so we get here late last night, wake up in the morning.
Josh sends me an entire itinerary of what to do and what not to do at the house.
Like, there's all these, like, there's lock boxes and there's all these things to get in.
And he's like, make sure that you keep the key in.
the lockbox because it's very easy to get locked out of this house. So I was like, all right. So we come in.
I'm going to put the key in the lockbox that's night. It's like, why are you putting the key in the
lockbox? I just keeping your pocket. Like, we need a key on us. I'm like, I don't know. Josh
said to keep it in the lockbox. He's like, just keep it in your pocket. Turns out, I can't
keep it in my pocket. Don't put it in the lock box. I put it next to my fucking bed in the night's
so my dad. I hear my dad wake up. It's like 7 a.m. I walk downstairs. He's like, I hear him
just say, holy shit, because finally last night we got in late. We heard. We heard.
heard the ocean. You know when you like go to an oceanfront property or like a hotel or something?
You can hear it in the distance. You just don't know where it is. It's so dark. So we heard it.
And then this morning we wake up and you finally get to see the whole entire view. It's amazing.
You're like, holy shit, this place is not real. We both go outside. I have the GoPro. I'm making a
whole video by the way. I have a GoPro. I'm like, dad, what do you think? Like this place is insane.
And he's like, yeah. And then all of a sudden the door closes behind us. And we're like,
all right, that's like, we'll figure that out in a second. I'm finished the video. I hit end on the video.
And we go to open up the back door and it's fucking locked.
So now we're like, no way.
All right.
Let's try the other one.
No way.
Completely locked.
So, all right.
Let's go right back around and see if the front door's open.
It should be because when we walked in, first of all, it's like the most like exclusive place in the world.
No one's fucking barging into this place.
I deadbolt locked the front door, which did not have a key to it.
So now we're trying to get in.
No chance.
We're looking up to scale the walls.
My dad's literally trying to scale the walls.
chance. So then we're like, we're fucked. The podcast is starting. We're stuck out here. I had no
socks on or shoes on. I'm out there in like a tank top and shorts. It's freezing outside.
It's like 60 degrees. Winds blowing off the fucking ocean. I'm like, we're stuck out here. This is
crazy town. Luckily, I had a phone on me. Like, we didn't have anything. So I had my phone on me.
If we didn't have a phone on us, I cry. Like I literally cry. Or we're like, we just go jump in
the water and we just sell off into the distance. We call a locksmith. The locksmith is here.
He got here in 10 minutes. Whoa.
goes to like pick the lock it's an old lock so breaking news to Josh you now have a new deadbolt
because we had to drill it through we drilled through the door the door and we're buying you a brand
new deadbolt and we have a key that will now be in the lock box and the whole thing will be
fine so it is what it is um i didn't expect my first day of pebble beach of my dad to be a home
improvement getting him a brand new lock but you know what now he's got a more secure up-to-date
new deadbolt on his palace on Spanish Bay and that has been my first 12 hours here on the trip.
Wow.
Graduations of Josh, brand new lock.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
I'm like afraid to tell him that, but I feel like it's going to be okay.
I think he'll, yeah, he'll get over it.
I think he'll.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
We got in.
It's good.
Like we got in, but you have a new lock.
I don't know.
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Trent did a fantastic job of describing, you know, your situation from,
from third person vantage point, the entire surprise, your pops,
the fact that he couldn't even really believe it was happening to him
and really set the stage for you being locked outside.
So now we've kind of got the full scope.
Are you guys playing golf today, Frankie?
Yeah, we're going to play the hay, I believe.
I'm just waiting for an email.
The person that helped me set this all up, like, has been great.
Actually, whoever you set me up with,
I'm like on an email chain,
but the people here at Pebble Beach are amazing.
They're like the coolest people ever,
and they really want you to have a great time.
So I think we're going to play the hay today.
which will be fun.
I never played it yet.
It's awesome from what I see on the scorecard.
I think you've played it before, right, Riggs?
Yeah, I played a lot of time.
It's excellent.
It's excellent yards or something like that.
There's a couple holes that are 40 yards,
which is just like, that's the perfect way to ease into a trip,
specifically for my dad who likes to play the furthest up tease of all times
so that he can have like a good time and actually hit the green too.
So we're playing that.
We're playing Pebble Beach Tuesday.
And then we're playing NPCC Wednesday, which is insane.
And then driving up to San Francisco.
and then flying out Wednesday night, Red Eye.
So two rounds and then one nine hole.
I can't believe you're out there.
The last time I saw you, which was just a couple days ago,
you were getting socky super soaked into your mouth with a fucking gun.
Oh my God.
Now you're on the West Coast.
That was a hell of a time.
Trent Daddy came to my birthday bash, my first big party at the house.
It was a good time.
I mean, it was there was a lot of alcohol involved.
We had Habachi come to the house.
I think it was called like Habachi,
to you. It's an amazing enterprise. Like the fact that they just bring the best food ever.
Honestly, top notch quality food. It wasn't just like this fucking frozen like steak and chiquette.
Like it was legit. I had filet mignon. It was nuts. Um, so yeah, no, it was a lot of fun.
Then he had like this water gun that was socking us right in the fucking back of the tonsils.
And like at the end of the day, you're like, wait a minute. If he's holding the water gun right
next to your face and he's just shooting sake down your throat and you're like, everyone's having a
competition for how long they can keep it going in their mouth. You're having like 15 to 20 shots
of sock. Like you're just like, think about like the number of shots of sake you're taking by just
guzzling down a squirt gun worth of sake. Like a little shot glass. Think about how many of those like
Rudy had. Like Rudy must have had 35 shots of sake. Dude, like an hour into it, we're all just like
looking sideways. Like I was shit faced by five o'clock, six o'clock, shit face. Great. Because it does
turn into a competition where you're going around.
around the table and they're counting how many seconds each person can get it.
And Rudy was on the far end of the table.
So by the time it got to him, the record was like 19 seconds.
And he was like, I'm going to go 30 seconds.
And then he did.
And he was shit-faced as he should be because that's like a million shots of sake.
But you are right.
That habachi to you, I believe that is what it's called.
That's an amazing thing.
We were just in your backyard eating delicious habachi.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
And Tommy smokes came.
He was awkward.
A classic case of
I went out to go get beer
I went out to go get beer
At the beer to be down the road in ice
And as I'm there
I got a simply safe notification
That three people were at my door
And it was Tommy Rudy and Trent
And so Tommy like was at my house
Before I was getting the tour
Before like I could be there
And he was just like
It was just classic Tommy smokes
Of like the whole thing was a bit
And you're like all right
I get it
I wasn't there to open the door for you
Well we
So we've been texting back
and forth about this like when do we show up when's this thing going to get rolling and at one point
you said us 2 30 people are going to start showing up so Tommy and Rudy took a train out here I picked
him up at the train station and we hold we pulled up to your house at 232 and were absolutely by
far the first people there 35 people coming that the first people there by maybe 20 minutes I would say
more I would say more we got there and Frankie wasn't even there you know your fiancee met us at the door
was like, whoa, why are there people here already?
And we just got there at 232 when you said 2.30 and we should have,
we should have drove around the block like 900 times.
Yeah, it's a nice carnusty hoodie, by the way.
Thank you.
That thing's awesome.
Really good.
Yeah, so it was a fun weekend.
Yeah, I thought we had, we had, we played baseball, that drinking game baseball.
You guys had left by then, and it's the most fun game of all time.
You got six on six.
It's aggressive, but then like you pick like who's on defense.
We had three guys on defense at a time.
So like there's a manager essentially picking like the line up and defense.
And Tommy smokes is on the other team.
And I don't want to give him any props because I fucking, I love him,
but I also love to hate him.
He at one point in like a three one game or whatever it was,
it was like five three game in like the seventh inning looked at me and goes,
hey, Frankie, this one's for you.
And just hit a home run in my face like back cup.
Whole place went crazy.
He's like doing the thing where like the Jesus arms out and everyone's going nuts.
staring at me. It was like one of the more impressive athletic moments I've ever seen him
ever even attempt or accomplish. And I don't want, we don't have to get too far into it,
but I met Big Rob. And oh my God. I was starstruck. A lot of stories on this podcast and just,
you know, behind the scenes talking about Big Rob. He is larger than life. I really enjoyed meeting.
He is a really great guy. He is, you know what was interesting that I thought was different about
him than I thought? Like I had this picture in my head about Big Rob because I've heard.
so much about him and I was like a little nervous to meet him because I've heard so much about it
and then because I had this picture of in my head and then I met him nicest guy and also like has a
weird swagger to him he showed up in this bowl this loud bowling shirt and everybody was talking
about it he's like a carnival attendant yeah it was just yeah so I met big rob I just wanted people to
know that he was and you met him on you met him on the heels of the greatest big rob story maybe ever like
well, to me, I think it's just the funniest thing.
He played in a pickleball tournament, and he is so out of shape that he puked five times
during the pickleball tournament, and they had to eventually.
He ended up grinding through it, grinding through the puky.
After every single point, he'd run to the fence, projectile vomit, places shrieking in horror.
He's this 6'6 disgusting out-of-shape guy, but he's also insane at paddle sports.
So he's like making it through this tournament, gets to the championship, and has to get medically
decued because he was cramping on the floor, legitimately seizing on the floor that they had to come out.
He's saying, I'm going.
And they're like, you have to go to a hospital.
Like they're like, this is an amateur paddleball tournament.
We can't have you die out here.
He was, he got medically decued.
And then the photo of him with the person that he lost to is all time.
He's, he, the person he lost to is maybe, would you say a third of the size of him?
Oh, yeah.
In the, on the platform, the guy that he lost to.
is from his hip up to his shoulder.
It's actually,
it could be a viral meme, the photo.
I got the,
it could be easily.
And I got the full Rob experience
at Frankie's birthday party
because I was on the deck.
I haven't told Frankie about this
because it's not that great of a story,
but I was on the deck
talking to somebody
and Frankie's deck
there's like one level
and then there's a step down
and you can kind of walk out to the yard.
I was talking to somebody on the deck
and Big Rob came storming out of the house
and didn't see the step on the deck
and fully,
twisted his ankle and acted like he didn't even notice it.
He just kept going.
He twisted his ankle, limped to the beer pong table,
and then didn't even mention it.
That's the picture.
That's so bad.
Look at that.
Dude,
this is not a real photo.
I mean,
it looks incredibly Photoshop.
Look,
how is that possible?
It was great.
That's who he lost to?
Everybody.
Yeah,
he lost.
Big Rob, too,
to me would be so interesting to meet
because we only really know.
him or envision him like basically a mute at work.
Right.
That's kind of sort of envision him like a larger than life, real personality mingling in a
social setting is like unimaginable to me.
That's that's a good point.
That's what it is.
I was trying to think of like, why is his personality so much different than I thought
it was going to be?
And it is because Frankie talked about how he's never laughed at work.
And then I show he shows up to the party and he's, you know, he's Mr.
big personality, which I love.
And he was just, yeah, he was.
He had a big personality and I really enjoyed it.
Yeah, he's the best.
He's the best.
I mean, I got him.
I got to meet him.
Everything about him is the best.
I think I saw him on somebody's Instagram story, like catching something and
falling over in the grass.
And I was like, that has to be big rob.
Yeah, it is.
29, Frankie?
29.
Last year of the 20s.
So next year, I think before next birthday, I think I ended or so I don't know.
Like, I don't know if I can, I think the 20s, like, I can't be a 30-year-old.
I'm too young.
You're wrong about that, though, because you are, you're aging gracefully, right?
Like you're doing all the right things.
You're at a house.
You're getting married next year.
Like those are the things that a 30-year-old does.
The 20s are chaos for the most part.
Early 20s, mid-20s, chaos.
You don't know what you're doing.
You don't really have the job that you want.
You're not making the type of money that you want.
Now as you advance, you're 29 now.
You're going to turn 30.
You're going to be a married man.
You're going to have that house exactly how you want,
although it's already a beautiful place.
Like you're going to be a 30 year old that is doing the right things.
See, like all that stuff sounds great.
I appreciate that.
But I'm just saying that I don't think my personality, regardless of the things that I'm going to do or accomplish, has anything to do with a 30 year old.
I think I'm still just, I mean, I can't talk about.
Nobody grows up.
Like nobody grows up.
Everyone's a child.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
It's just.
The more you talk to adults, if you ask them like brass tacks, like, how's it going?
What's it like being as old as you are?
And they're just like, I feel like I'm 30.
I feel like I'm 30 all the time.
It's like that never changes.
Your body ages, your brain ages, but you just, you don't actually change.
I remember dreading the 30th and then the next day being like pumped because it was very relieving because you're like, oh, I'm just the same idiot.
Yeah.
It doesn't, nothing change.
You also have a full 10 years before your next like life changing.
True.
Like whatever.
Yeah, you gain some like slack.
You gained a little bit of slack in the row.
You started zero almost.
Like you're kind of like, hang it now.
Yeah, we got it.
Like I'm at the end of something now.
and then you start the beginning of a new.
Right.
If you were in the same position you were now that you were in when you were 22,
then you're looking at a bit of an issue.
Like if you're still,
I don't even know what you were doing at 22,
but you're not.
You're,
you're,
look at what you've been doing.
So it's,
it's different.
Yeah.
Um,
Frankie,
we,
um,
we,
we,
we,
we,
we discussed at length,
the,
um,
Zalotaurus win,
the Cam Smith news,
um,
all that stuff.
I want to get in,
into Scott Fawcett. He just texted us. But Scott Fawcett, the hell's going on this guy. So, Scott Fawcett has
done a video with you. We've had him on the show. Find a lot of his stuff fascinating. We haven't released
yet. He, I'll confess like a year ago or so I had to stop following him on Twitter. I just found
him insufferable the way that he like smartest guy in the room like everyone all the time. I just
couldn't handle it. When we did have him on the show, I loved it. I find his actual purpose, like,
The purpose of what he puts out there, I find incredibly interesting.
And even Kiz is like taking, you know, takes it.
I don't think he wants to deal with them directly, but takes that information and applies it.
And like, it's fascinating to.
I want you guys to know that I don't know why we're talking about Scott Fawcett.
So I'm very interested to see what this goes.
So Scott Fawcett, you know, decade golf, the whole deal, he will apply literally like thousands and thousands of shots at a PGA tour event on one hole.
over the history of the entire event that anyone who misses in the left rough has like, you know, 0.25 lower scoring average than anybody who misses in the right rough.
So your aiming line is actually down the left edge of the fairway, not down, you know, the right center.
And we'll literally apply that to every single part on the golf course.
It's why Will's Alatoris and his first master's ever almost won the tournament and it became pretty famous that way.
So it's fantastic, fantastic stuff from just an insightful.
golf standpoint.
But Scott Fawcett is very controversial guy.
He's incredibly opinionated, incredibly.
And he can be a little bit of a wild card sometimes.
And so yesterday, he was tweeting throughout the Zaltoran battle down the stretch.
You know, he's a huge Zaltor's guy.
He was taking victory labs.
And he and Justin Thomas actually tweeted a couple of these screenshots because Scott has
since deleted him.
He tweeted, uh-oh, and again, and then in all caps, fuck you, Dan Hicks.
This wouldn't be a gift because Dan Hicks had made a point of like a pretty throwaway comment on the coverage being like, oh, there's a Miss Green from Sep Straca.
This could be a gift for Zalotaurus.
His response is that, Will has the best speed control on tour, so he fucking earned it, you dick.
Okay, nice put, Seth.
And then another one, he goes, hey, at Brad Faxson and Dan, go fuck each other.
Yes, I understand this is classless and crude, but let me repeat myself.
Period, you, period.
Onlookers feel free to unfollow block
and never buy decade.
I don't give a fuck.
And he had some more that were wild as well,
where he wrote,
I really do try to bite my tongue with the commentators,
but go fuck yourself Dan Hicks with six exclamation points.
Pudder was wobbly earlier this year.
You have no idea what the truth is.
Fuck face.
Sit in the booth.
Yes, this is a joke,
but there's always truth in comedy,
smiley face.
So he was tweeting these things during the tournament yesterday.
And then he just texted us basically saying I'd love to come on the show and like give my vantage point, which I'm not going to have them on the show.
I don't know how to explain that.
I really just don't know how to explain it.
I always love when someone goes insane on Twitter.
And then at the end of they're like, well, you guys just don't understand comedy.
This is comedy.
This is comedy.
No, he had a crazy day on Twitter.
And listen, I never really, I didn't know Scott until he came on the show.
And then we're doing fixing Frankie.
We're like piecing together all these.
episodes. I, like, wanted to come out with the series this year because my, like, feeling was
that I thought that I had too much potential to be, like, a 10 or 11 handicap. And I really
wanted to see what is the reason why I can't get better. So we went to Dr. Brett McCabe and
we're doing all these things. We're going to do something with Trevor Immelman. And then I thought,
like, maybe it'd be interesting to see, like, if it works for guys, like, if Kisner thinks it's
interesting and it works for Will Zaltors, like, obviously the whole world thinks that the whole
golf world thinks that this guy has something in there, like his actual process. So I'm like,
all right, we'll invite him out to Colonial and we'll see. He was super nice. Like meeting him in
person. He wrote that in the text. Like, you guys know I am an actual good guy. I will go on
record saying like in person, he was a very, very nice guy. I think Brendan can attest to that.
I think, I think who was with us? Avery could attest to that. Like he was, even my dad was like,
yeah, I guys had a nice guy. Like he was fucking, he just, he's just very like, it's like fucking
right in your face. Like, this is how you do it. And if you don't do it, you're wrong. And I think that
that's really hard pill to swallow in golf where it's like, well, things can happen. Like,
bounces can happen. Guys have different swings. Guys have different approaches. Like,
he's obviously right. Like, the things he's saying are correct. Like, he's just saying math. He's
saying math equations. People don't like want to accept. But like, he is legitimately like,
I am right and you're all wrong. And you just can't be that guy on Twitter. Like just, but he also
has a business to sell. Like he's selling like, like he's selling like, like he's
telling his, he has these things that like, what are those things that you can like sign up for.
Subscriptions?
No, it's like he like talks for like four hours, a seminar.
He'll like sell seminars and all these PGA pros like go online and they watch his like four hour seminars about like how to tackle like the FedEx cup.
He's just very off putting.
Like the way that he tweets is extremely off putting and the way that him packaging all of that stuff into like go fuck each other.
That's great.
Hicks.
Like, those guys are just the commentators up there.
Like that seems a little crazy.
And then he's going into like, you people don't know the full history.
And it's like, well, okay, but then why are you tweeting all that to all of those people?
If you know those people don't know the history, then you know that that's going to get taken out of context.
So when we had him on the show, he was great.
I'm sure he's nice.
But this, I mean, I can't not talk about.
Justin Thomas screenshot of these and was like, holy fuck.
He's a lunatic on Twitter.
And like, I'm almost embarrassed.
Like, we have to release the video because this stuff in the video fucking works.
I went from an 11 to a 5.6 in three months.
And I attribute all the stuff that he did.
All the stuff that I did, I attribute to like a lot of it to him.
Like it was all alignment stuff and like where to hit the ball and like slowing down the swing and like aim points off the T box.
Like it was all these things that unlocked a part of my brain where it's like holy fuck golf is like easier now.
But like also we have this guy who's an absolute liability on Twitter that like Justin Thomas like wants to like Justin Thomas hates this guy.
Like the whole golf world hates this guy and I'm just going to be like yapping it up with him on our YouTube page being like, oh, we got Scott Fawcett out here. He hates fucking Brad Faxson. Like what the fuck?
Come on. Scott. Just stop talking for like two months so we can put this video out.
I would also say that the job of a guy like Dan Hicks or any person in that position is to appeal to a broad audience. Like imagine if he starts talking about like decade golf and the intricacies of it. Like my dad, a 70 year old, 71 year old man who watches golf every Sunday would be like, what is.
is happening right now. Why is this guy filling me with numbers and data and all this stuff
that I don't understand? Like, I just want to hear a guy talk about like, oh, that was a good shot.
You know, he's got a pretty good angle from over there. And, you know, he gets up and down.
It's going to force Will's Alatoris to do this or that. That's what Dan Hicks' job is.
It's not to like be 100% in the numbers and being like, this is the situation and this is what each
player has to do. It's not a job. No.
Right.
Yeah.
He always feels slated.
He feels like when someone says something like, oh, he got lucky there that they're going directly against the Scott Fawcett Rules of Golf.
Like, that's not what's happening.
They're just commentating on what they believe is the best way to describe what they're seeing to the people that are watching it on TV.
I mean, dude, no one's saying that like, you're wrong.
Yeah.
One of the most used cliches in the world is like, oh, yeah, it just like take anything too personally.
takes everything personally.
Like everything that's said ever, he takes personally.
Like, if you're like,
Will shouldn't have had like a breakfast bar in the morning.
He'd be like,
fuck you.
We talked about this six months ago that actually the supreme way to wake up is eating oatmeal.
It's like, dude, I don't fucking know what you're talking about.
And would be,
go ahead.
He'd be like, right.
Like if they're like, oh, what a break in the playoff that Will's ball bounces and doesn't go in the water.
he would be like, fuck you, you fucking scumbag.
Actually, his aim point is three feet to the left of that because all the work that
we've done.
It's like, no, dude, it just kind of bounced like, that's kind of a good break.
It's just a, it's a normal commentator comment.
Nobody's attacking your entire philosophy and meaning as a person.
It's just like.
I'd love to know how Willie Z feels about it because I think he attributes a lot of his
success to Scott and the way that, I mean, they worked together for years.
He was on his bag and like they completely changed his game and his way of thinking.
and now he has to almost like accept that this guy goes rogue on Twitter on his behalf,
like his team's behalf.
That's kind of like a bad place to be where it's like, dude, just fucking shut up and let me just win.
That's the thing too, right?
And we've said it a couple times during this.
Like at the end of the day, the stuff that he does works.
Like Stuart Singh missed it.
And he got a couple wins.
Like people are like, this shit works.
It's just that he is brash and aggressive on Twitter.
And obviously Justin Thomas took note of it and took screenshots, which that is like,
So did Justin Thomas just tweeted out the screenshots?
Yeah, he replied to something.
He replied to something and was just like,
look, I get like supporting your guy,
but this is pretty classless.
And he's right.
I mean, those tweets are outrageous tweets.
I don't like nobody likes a sore winner.
Like I know you deleted these,
but like we can all still see him.
It's like a pretty funny tweet from JT.
Like you're just like a lunatic and like just try and try and be classy like
and let the guy enjoy his win.
And that is a large platform.
A Justin Thomas tweet.
There's many people who see that tweet who are,
like who the fuck is Scott Fawcett
and then they're going to see the tweets and be like, well, that guy's crazy.
Right.
Which I don't blame them for thinking that off those.
I know you guys went deep into the Willie Z stuff,
which was an amazing playoff.
I watched it on the plane.
It was just like,
I'm looking around being like,
how is no one else on the plane watching this?
You have like your eyes on like 80 different TVs ahead of you?
Not one person has gone.
Did you feel like a trader as a live guy watching that playoff?
Yeah, okay.
I mean, I loved watching it.
It was amazing.
That was great.
By the way, like, yeah,
I got a text message from like someone from Liv
being like we'd love to have you guys at Boston.
It's going to be your homecoming.
It's like, I don't know.
It's like we're just probably not going to go to that at all.
Give us $100 million.
That's exactly.
I want to respond being like,
what's your price?
You know what I mean?
Like what's your price to have us show up to that golf course on next week?
Did you guys talk about the guy in the yellow?
No.
Oh my God, dude.
The fucking guy in the yellow.
Will Zaltors has to go back to the drop area.
It's his biggest golf shot of his career.
I mean, I don't think there's any debate of that.
you have to hit this thing tight. You got to make it up and down. Big decision. I'm sure you guys
got into it, but it was the right decision, obviously. You go back to the drop zone area. He's talking
through with his caddy, looking at an aim point. Where are we looking? This is Dr. Brett McCabe thing.
Talk it out loud. This is a Scott Fawcett thing. Talk it out loud. Find your spot. And then you
hit it to that spot and it will react once it hits the green in all these different variances.
But the odds are it will get closer to the hole than not. Okay. So he has this entire system.
and he goes, I'm, I got the guy, I'm looking at the guy in the yellow right now.
And it just like hit me that there's this nice man who's like probably a volunteer.
It's been standing on this hole the entire week.
He's standing right there in front of the grandstand.
And he's just, he has no idea that he is now the aim point for a professional golfer
hitting a golf shot with a chance to win a FedEx Cup playoff, playoff.
Like the idea that if he just like bent down during like, right, as Will's Altor's
at him or if he moved or just like coughed and moved and like shook his arms like maybe he would
throw will off a little bit but he was a fucking statue standing there being a perfect aim point will's
out towards his a perfect golf shot right online with the guy in the yellow and he goes on to win the
golf tournament big day for the guy in yellow and I want to like get in contact with him and be like do you
know that you're a part of history you are he is a part of history and what other sport do you have that
where like a fan is like the thing the guy aims at like like jj jj red is that right jj red
wasn't like I'm looking at the guy with the hat on like when I shoot my three so that like I can
stay online with this shot he's just like playing the game they actually in every other sport they
fucking they don't see anyone they block out the noise wills altars zoned in on this guy's shirt
like you kidding me yeah imagine if he had gone to the bathroom he's like I got pissed really bad
right and then he looks up and like well's like wait where's my aim point and then like pushes it and
he loses it's like that guy had to stay solid hopefully somebody told him hopefully somebody
pointed it that nose and was like hey you
you're the aim point for Will's Al-Torris on this one.
He is a part of that play.
Do you might think he was considering hitting that ball?
He looked at it for a long time.
It just made no sense based off of what like the situation called for.
Like that would be insane.
I got a lot of text message,
tweet saying that we should go try it.
I got like a bunch of DMs being like,
you guys need to go to that golf course and try that exact shot.
Like put the ball there on that fucking right in between the lip and all that stone
and see if you could actually accomplish it.
Yeah, because, yeah, it's also hard to tell on TV how, you know,
because I do think it was kind of in a cave because his thinking is clearly,
like if I can even just get this anywhere forward, it's over.
Yeah.
But so, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I thought he was going to hit it for a second.
I really did.
Especially if, like, I wonder if Straca had hit his drop zone shot onto the green.
I wonder if that would have changed what Zalotaurus did at all.
I think he hits it.
I do too, because I think he's like, all right, I have one shot here that, like, if I, like, I think if Strachga hits it to like 20 feet, like an average shot from the drop zone.
And I think then Zalotor's is like, okay, if I just make contact with this ball, there's a good chance that I win.
And if I don't, then like we're probably just going to tie.
You know, like, I wonder, I wonder if that would have changed it.
Whereas there he was like, he was in a spot where he's like, okay, if I take a drop, I have a put to win no matter what.
Whereas like, yeah, I don't know.
It was, it was interesting to watch.
It was hard to tell.
I think if he hits it, it's a disaster, by the way.
Like, either it goes nowhere or it goes backwards.
Yeah, I think from the camera angle,
I think there was way too much stuff on top of the ball for it.
I don't think the physics works for it to be able to get a club on it
and then get the ball over the lip.
Well, it was under, it seemed like the cement part.
So you're not going to be able to get, like you'd have to hit the ball.
You're not going to get under it.
You're going to hit the ball.
And then the grass was so high.
that there's no way it's going to get up and over.
There's just no way.
Up against the grass and back.
I wonder what Scott Foster has done.
Well, he's probably saying, like, we tried to hit it in the water
so that the drop zone area is better.
What did you guys think about?
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The, yeah, the playoff, we didn't get a ton into the details of the playoff,
but it was everything that makes golf when it's at its peak drama-wise.
It was everything that makes golf the best thing that you can possibly watch.
It might be boring 95% of the time,
but in those moments, you see everything.
You see what makes golf awesome for the best players in the world,
for the worst players in the world.
Everyone goes through those swings where those guys were ripping them down the fairway at times.
Then they would hit shitty T shots and have to chip out.
And then after chipping out,
they would fucking hit one to a couple feet and make a put.
And then the next hole,
guy hits it in the water on top of the walls, Alatoris,
and the third playoff hole,
and you're thinking, oh, Straga is going to hit this 30 feet left.
It's over.
Then he hits it in the fucking water,
which it's like one of the best players in the world.
We've played golf with Kevin Kisner with Max Homa.
It feels so easy for him from 151 yards for any one of those guys to just hit it on the green.
Like could you even fathom having been there with those guys, them missing the green to the right and hitting in the water?
And it speaks to like what nerves and truly changing the way your body feels in real time, how golf does affect people so much.
That got, no, Sebstraka could never miss that shot to hit it in the water.
ever except in that scenario.
And he does it and ends up losing the golf tournament.
It was fucking insanity, how cool that playoff was.
That was a stunner, obviously.
Sep hitting in the water there.
Like, again, it's easy for me to say it because I'm sitting in my apartment and I'm a pretty bad golfer,
although I'm trying to get better.
Just aim as far left as you can.
Like hit whatever club you know is not going in that water.
Now, again, hindsight's 2020.
But if like, think about it.
If you watched yesterday, if you had a time machine, you watch.
Watch that Will's Alator's shot.
What is the percentage?
Like, what is the percentage of Sepp Strachah
hitting that green after that shot?
Like, if you asked,
if you pulled a bunch of people,
I'd say it's like 95% chance
he lands it on the green.
They didn't.
Water.
I honestly was thinking, like,
there's no way I hit it in the water there.
Like, I was literally saying,
like, I would just hit that in the middle of the green.
Now, I'm probably wrong.
If that guy, if Step did it, I could clearly do it.
But it's like, it wasn't like a 230-yard shot.
It was a fucking,
nine iron or whatever it was like 150 yards those guys are so incredibly good it was so shocking when
he hit it in the water i i honestly just couldn't believe it um step is a little bit of a wild boy with
his lines though the first two t shots on 18 the first one was like well that's going on the water
and then it ended up being perfect and the second one we're like well that's definitely going to the
water and almost when the water was just on the ledge so he is kind of taking these crazy lines
regardless of the situation which i loved i liked how aggressive he played he kept
He kept just ripping that draw with the three wood on the 18th T.
Tillgaid.
Playoff and everything else.
So I like that.
Tillgang,
I saw Tillgang was all jacked up.
He posted a couple things.
That's your guy.
Speaking of Till gang.
And there's a bunch of stuff.
We're going to jump around a little bit.
But I caught up with the latest breaking 90 episode.
96, I believe it was for anybody out there who, you know, I mean, at this point,
spoils and all that.
Trent, I was very, I was thinking about, you know, like, obviously your game,
how close I think you are.
You're unbelievably close, clearly.
I think that one, is it the fifth hole that kills you there?
Yeah, that's a rick hole,
Frankie said it at the end of the video, but it's one swing.
The other thing I was thinking is like,
people have been harping on your putting and all that.
I really don't think your putting was that bad.
I think it's pretty good.
I think you're approach shots.
Like, you're driving it well.
I think your approach shots,
I don't know if it's like a little more focused.
Obviously, Tillgang fucking knows a lot more about it than I do.
But I think like you're leaving yourself in spots,
I feel like on your approach shots
that are just adding,
that are making it so easy for you to have tap in bogey
after tap in bogey
and not enough chances to have a really good look
for like a par.
And I feel like your approach shots
are fucking close,
but you're just like miss hitting a couple of them
to the point where it's like,
it's leaving you in a spot
where it's like he might make bogey or double here
instead of like, oh, he should based on his touch and everything,
have a pretty good look for par.
And if he misses it, he makes a bogey.
if you do that a bunch, all of a sudden you're in the high 80s and you're threatening.
So I actually thought like you're off the tea.
I was like, fucking he looks good.
And then even the put's like you were pouring a lot of the ones from five, six feet.
Like you were pouring them in for the most part.
He's like automatic now.
He's, I don't think he's four putt in a breaking 90 episode ever.
I think that was more of a breaking 100 episode.
Yeah.
Something about Scotland changed my putt in.
And I think it's because it made me realize, it made me look back, literally look
back at America and be like, what are they doing with their greens? Because what Scotland does is they
don't use it really, at least the courses that we played, they don't use it as a punishment. They just
kind of let them grow a little bit and the speed is true. And so you kind of get a feel for that
putting. And then you realize it makes you, you know, zoom out a little bit and be like, all right,
so what's the difference between Scotland Greens and American Greens and what American Greens do at
these at these clubs that we play and all over the country is that they use it as a defense mechanism
the course. So they use it like they want to make them lightning quick so it can kind of defend
the course a little bit. And once you have that in your head, and this is probably something I
should have realized a long time ago, but Scotland really made me realize it that these greens,
they are using it so that they're trying to add strokes to your score. So just be a little bit
more cautious, be a little bit more gentle with the lag puts. Don't blow it 15, 20 feet by
because that's just a recipe, it's three putt and sometimes even four put. So you just got to be a
little bit more cautious with them. And I've got that in my head during these videos and whenever I
play. And it has improved my putting times a billion. So that's not where the strokes are.
The strokes are what you're saying, Rick. It's where I sometimes leave my approaches not in the
greatest spots. Even when it is a good spot, I just don't get it up and down or put it in a
place where I can make a decent score. That's where the sevens come in. That's where the eights come in.
And they just kill me. I personally think, I think I know where the problem is. And I've, I've,
I'm never in a place to be able to say where it is,
and I'm not going to be one of those guys
that DM's fucking trying.
A million people say that they know what his problem is,
but no one watches as many shots of Trent than I do.
And when I'm on the side of him,
I realize that his ball placement,
ball position placement is all over the place with irons
and pitching wedge and approach shots.
So sometimes it'll be way on his front foot
and he'll just fucking pull one into the trees.
Like we'll be 135, 140 yards out,
and he nuts like a nine iron way into the trees left.
I'm like, dude, I watched him have that on his front foot.
And then other times it'll be way on his back foot and he'll like chicken wing it into the right bunker.
And it's like, dude, when he's at the range, it's always in the same spot because like you find like that little spot of grass or maybe on the mat.
Like it's always in the same spot.
He's always stepping in the same spot and he flushes iron after iron.
Then we get on the golf course and like the ball's a little bit above his feet or something or like it's behind.
It's on his back foot and he pushes and he pulls.
One of the biggest things Scott Fawc taught me was the ball.
position. And he's not even like a teaching pro like that. But he lined me up with an alignment
stick going across and then one coming through my legs. And he's like, the ball should be there every
time because your swing plane has to hit somewhat close to what you always swing or else you're
never going to be consistent. I'm telling you right now, those massive pulls and pushes are just,
he doesn't have the ball in the same spot. Because his swing is fucking consistent. It's never like,
oh my God, you came so outside the end on that one. Like I never see that. I never see like a
drastic change in a swing. It's always just like, why the fuck did you set up like that?
You know what I mean? It's like, fuck. It's like it was just something was different each time.
Yeah. No, that's fair. I mean, yeah. That I think that's probably spot on. And like,
the other thing is like the multiple chips around the green, you know, like it's that's like if you just
plop them into the middle of green, you like it's obviously it's fucking easier to said, don't you. I know
you're trying to. But it's like those are it's, it's, it's, you're so close in my mind as a viewer because
you're there. You're in position all the time. It's like if you flub a chip, then you try to get too
aggressive now instead of like making again another pretty easy tap in bogey and you're rolling.
It's like somehow he made a seven or on that the fifth hole with the bunker and the fucking lip that you hate.
It's like you're so capable of hitting that bunker shot. I've seen you hit that bunker shot a million times.
You should put that on the green two putt. You're like rolling. So it's like little shit that that is what golf is.
That's how they add up obviously. But it's it's I don't want you to be disheartened because watching.
I'm like, oh, this guy has it. Like you could easily.
easily I could just get a text like tomorrow whenever you guys go film that's like trench shot 86 and
I wouldn't be surprised right I've definitely gotten to a point where I've just I've reached the next level where it's like
90s like mid 90s high 90s no matter what which is obviously just a huge change from the old game
which is what we're trying to do we're breaking 100 now we're trying to get down so like I know
like that's a confidence that you don't expect to have and then once you have you're like all right
If I just play my game, and even if I, you know, blow up a couple holes, I'll probably shoot like a 97 or 96.
Like that's, that's a confidence that you don't even expect.
And then it comes to your door once you break 100 and you play and you keep doing it.
So I'm right there.
I'm definitely right there.
And I think what you guys are saying, all that stuff is true.
And one of these days, it's just going to happen.
You're essentially a bogey golfer.
Like you're literally just a bogey golfer.
It's like two or three holes where you're a little worse than that.
And then a few pars.
and those things don't perfectly balance each other out,
and you end up in the mid-90s.
But it's like for the average hole,
like I would say going into,
like if you're using Barstool Sportsbook,
and it was the average hole,
I think you're over-under would be right at bogey.
And then it's like you're probably going to,
you know what I mean?
It's like,
or it be bogey and a half or whatever.
And like you're just as likely,
you're going to make bogey a lot of the time.
It feels like 12 or 13 of the holes.
You just make a pretty easy, stress-free bogey.
And it's like if you could just keep the triples and doubles from being those and being one shot less and then mix in just a couple more pars, you're all the sudden high 80s guy.
Like it's just right there.
Like I think two episodes ago at Rockville, I made six pars.
Like that's just not something that I would do in the past.
That's great.
It's so many pars.
And I still, I think I had a couple eights, a couple sevens.
And it's just like, rock.
But if you can just like minimize the damage, make a few pars, that it's going to happen.
A third of the holes, you make part.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And we're talking, I mean, he has a video coming down on Thursday.
That's going to be must watch.
Yeah.
Simple as that.
Let's go.
It's a simple as that.
Thursday, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
It should be.
It should be.
I got a big shout to British Airways and American Airlines.
Finally got my bag back.
Wow.
Congratulations.
How many days?
41.
Forty one.
Okay.
Holy shit.
To get me my bag.
Checked it in St. Louis.
on July 3rd, I think, July 3rd, 2022.
And I checked it in St. Louis.
I went from St. Louis to Philly, Philly to Heathrow, Heathrow to Glasgow,
and did not see my bag from when I left it with the American Airlines agent until I think it was Saturday,
you know, like August 13th or whatever it was.
Wow.
So big shout out to, I think it's kind of a tag team effort between American Airlines and British Airways.
What I'll never understand, and they were very much, they accepted my, my compliments and my thank
yous on social media. But what I want to understand is that the tag, the tag was on the bag. So like,
there was all of this back and forth for months, as people can imagine, about them trying to get me
to describe to them what the bag looks like. And then the contents that are inside of the bag,
and I would say, close. And then they would be like, you need to be more specific. And I'd be like,
Peter Millar clothes.
And you need to be more specific.
Be like Peter Malar golf clothes that are different colors and shit because it's a golf trip.
And what I can't comprehend is how on earth would they have needed any of that information?
Because the tag is on the bag.
They could just scan it at any moment.
And then a computer system will just tell their system where that bag is.
So at any point, they got that little fucking thing with the red thing and they could just scan it, the laser.
And they, I just will never be able to grasp how they didn't know where it was.
I can get that it didn't make it on the plane.
I could get that it sat in a warehouse for a while until somebody could get to it.
But I'll never comprehend how they just didn't know where it was because it still has the tag on it.
Yeah.
Do they give you 10 billion rewards points or whatever?
Or do they just, when they give it to you, they just patch on the head and tell you to get the fuck out of it?
They don't tell you anything.
The only thing they give you is they're like, yeah, you can buy necessities and then you can submit them for expenses and we'll cover them.
But like, I'm not going to do that.
I don't, like, that's for the birds.
What am I?
You know, it's like a Saturday.
You may have like a million points in your bank.
You may have a million points in your bank.
The other day, Delta, like, we were delayed like an hour and I got an email saying like
they deposited 20,000 miles into my account for being like a platinum medallion member
and then having to wait on the tarmac for an hour.
Like at a certain point, there needs to be real stakes with these things.
Like, if you don't get your bag back in two months,
you automatically get named the CEO of that company.
You now just take over.
You're the head.
Like right now there's no stakes.
Like you,
you had your bag was lost for 41 days and they're like,
whatever, dude.
Like bags get lost.
What do you want us to do?
There's nothing pressing.
But if you were to say like,
if it gets lost for 45 days,
we're going to give you $200,000.
Right.
It is,
to Frankie's point,
it's hilarious how they,
they don't treat anyone like a human being
until you reach a certain status.
And then they treat you like they're so nice.
Because I have that on Delta as well.
And the only time that I'll ever really get anything outside of that motherfucker in Salt Lake who was like,
you have to go talk to Delta.
And I was talking to Delta.
It said Delta on her fucking face.
But they will legitimately, like you get text messages from them if your flight's delayed.
Like you get like a personal text message.
That's like we're super sorry about the inconvenience.
Please stop by our lounge.
It will have like a drink ready for you.
And then the whole rest of your life,
they literally won't even look at you or speak to you like you have a pulse.
And then as soon as you reach the status,
all of a sudden this whole network of human beings kicks in and they just treat you like a person.
It's a weird feeling.
I think Frankie has just so many delta points.
He shows me sometimes.
I'm like,
boy,
that's a lot.
And there's got to be a level where when he shows up to the airport,
he gets a piggyback ride to the gate.
There's just like how far can it go because they are so accommodating.
Like you're saying,
once you reach platinum status,
they just do everything for you that I don't know where it goes.
I had a handwritten note on my seat when we went out to Scotland.
It was like a thank you for choosing Delta on an international flight or whatever.
And then yeah, it was crazy.
This lock situation is taking a turn for the worst.
My dad's pacing around.
Because this fucking the deadbolt lock, I guess, on these doors,
like these doors are so like unique and old and different.
like this whatever this community is like it's a different type of door and the lock that this guy has
like doesn't doesn't like meet so we have to like call i don't know spanish bay and like say do you have
like extra like deadbolt locks like whoever built this like community needs to have like the locks
i don't i don't want to do any of that like i'm sorry like i this is crazy i don't i didn't expect
this to happen but it's a mistake it's a mistake and we have to just keep going on a mistake we've
we've spent enough time around you to know that for whatever reason,
and this is going to give credence to your thought that you're the main character
in this whole story and it's only things happening to you.
But we have spent enough time around you that only these things happen to you.
Something goes wrong.
A flight gets delayed.
You lock yourselves out of the house.
And now you've got two male Borrellys in the same place.
I don't even know what's going to happen while you guys are out.
Where are we going to get this lock?
You know what I mean?
I wonder how many times you've texted.
us with a sentence that starts with you guys are never going to believe this.
Yeah.
And it is, it's always a, it's always actually something like there's some people who will say that
and it'll be like, oh, they don't have a rental car for me.
And it's like, dude, just deal with it.
With Frankie, it's usually threat level midnight.
Like we got a real problem over here.
Yeah.
You could be with the crazy deja vu by the way.
And I know I've never been here.
But that's fucked.
You weren't there for the dad, Bob?
No, no, I know I've never been in this situation where I had to drill into a dead bolt lock at someone's house that they allowed me to stay at on the beach of fucking Spanish Bay and then have to deal with that while we're about to play the hay in like two hours and try and go, what is the place?
What's the breakfast place of Spanish?
Is it Roy's?
Uh, yes, I think it's Roy's.
There's like three rush shots right there, but I think it's Roy's.
We're trying to go there right now and I got to deal with this lock situation, dude.
I mean, he's got, like, we drilled that shit off.
That's just gone.
Like, he's got no.
Shit's gone.
That lock is gone.
I think I'm pretty deep right now in the weeds on Twitter with like pro live fucking nut huggers.
Who are these?
Here's what I'm curious about.
And I don't.
I think my, my latest theory is that ever since the Trump Bedminster stop, that this has galvanized political takes that are involved in the whole thing.
Oh, that's the worst part.
I think that the people, right, because there's no reason to be a huge pro live guy.
Like, there's no, like, reason.
I don't even think there's a reason to be a huge pro PGA tour guy.
I don't think, like, it's not NWO.
This is just, they're just too late.
I'm glad you said it because, like, that has been, I think that's insane that people are, like,
sucking the teat of PGA tour.
Right.
No, of either one.
I think, like, you have your, you can have your belief that, like, one is people should,
you know, hold integrity by going to one versus the other, which I'm, which we've discussed
a lot on the show.
But in terms of like there's no, like people shouldn't be buying like PGA tour like merch and being like I'm a PGA tour guy. And same with Liv. Like why would you be, why would you be a huge fan of a thing that just pays other people a ton of money? Like why do you care? Why would you like that? It is what it is. It just exists. That's cool. So what I don't get is when people, I was just tweeting about like I just tweeted LOL about, I quote tweeted the Cam Smith withdrawal news and I just wrote LOL. And then the first comment under it had most likes was Riggs likes making.
money off pro golfers but doesn't want them making money.
So I'm like, what are you talking about?
I just literally wrote LOL to Cam Smith withdrawing, which clearly the connotations are that
there's something going on with him going to live and the PGA tour and all that.
So then I quote tweeted and had my little take basically being like, Zaltor has made almost
$3 million yesterday.
So clearly I'm not against people making money.
And like I happen to side with Tiger Woods on like, I think it's better to play on the
PGA tour and make millions than it is to just sell out for live.
but I understand that people take money.
And it is just now, I mean, it's an argument.
You're a lib.
It's, I think that's what it is.
I think people have now conflated it to political allegiance.
And I think that must have happened because Trump was basically doing the rally at Trump
and minister and all that because I've noticed that it's taken in the last two weeks,
just like general tweets about golf are now coming with like, yeah, you're basically a
lib cuck or something.
I'm just like, no, I'm just tweeting about two different golf leagues.
Okay, but see, I have to say something about that, though.
I think this whole thing was politicized from the very beginning.
I called Trent out for that when we were in Minnesota, saying, like, if you kept calling me a live guy,
it felt like there was like some political connotation to that where it's like you're a specific type of person.
If you think that the competition between two leagues is like a good thing for like the sport or like if you tried to talk about the devil's advocate side of live compared to PJ Tory, like you have these like feelings about the world.
and morality and like the way that things should happen.
Like I think it's,
I think it's been politicized from the very,
very beginning considering it's been all the Saudi Arabia talk.
I wanted to be clear that we didn't put that on.
Like, we didn't say that about you.
We weren't saying that.
No, but it just comes from that place.
It obviously does.
It's like, well, if you're a live guy, you're this guy.
It's like, well, no.
I just think like, I was taking evidence on this podcast is that like,
you've been devil's advocate mostly on the live side.
I wasn't saying like you're this type of person.
Well, and I would say, okay.
I would say, though,
I think there's a difference between political.
Like now I think it's political.
I think being like against Saudi Arabian horrific regime is not political.
I think that's just like moral, which I think is very different.
Whereas this now is like it's all, it almost feels like they're trying to base upon where they think you lie on should people go to live or not is puts you in a bucket in their mind of who you voted for for president is literally like how these people are looking at it.
I don't think they were doing that.
I thought that that's what it was always happened.
And that's why I was like, I was fed up with the fact that you couldn't even talk about both sides without being put into a bucket.
But it is what it is.
It's always going to be that way.
There's always going to be one side.
There's always going to be another.
I'm almost angry.
I am angry at the fact that now you're all right.
Like, you can't even talk about it without, like, if you now talk about live or like their possibility of ever like being like a thing where they are actually coinciding with PJ Tour now, you're like siding with Trump.
and like you're automatically a Republican that like basically like stormed the fucking capital on January 6th.
Like just by like now you're in that bucket.
You know what I mean?
Like you're like a psychopath, red hat wearing extreme right like no, like I don't know.
I'm just talking about Cam Smith joining another fucking golf tour.
Like now it's a thing where you are a person.
And it's always felt like that where it's like you can't talk about this or else you're that person.
What are you talking about?
No, I agree.
And it is, I guess that is like kind of our entire culture now is like,
you just get put in a bucket immediately.
And there's like, then you feel like you have to fight your way out of it,
even though you're not in it.
And you're like, well, like, what we do?
I was going to fight.
And now I'm in a fight.
I don't know I was even in one.
Right.
And it's like if you, you know, if you clearly tweet that you're just like not a fan
of LeBron James, it's like, you're a racist.
You know, and you're just like, always.
No, it's always going to be that.
It's right.
It's definitely, it's fed up in a big way.
It's way more severe now.
And I guess my whole point in this whole thing, yes, there's been political undertones from the
beginning.
But I think now it is this, it is like taken over this where you can't even tweet about, like you can't even talk about this whole thing without instantly somebody is like one side of the other and they're putting you in a bucket and they're like against you.
And you're like, no, I'm just, we're just talking about this whole fucking thing.
We've lived this before, like it's been a very strange last decade or half a decade where it's like you couldn't even, you can't talk about politics or else you're one side or another.
That's one thing.
Now we had the president, the most fucking controversial president of social media of our generation.
he hit the fucking opening teabot.
Well, I will say.
So it's like that now it's like they've picked their sides.
It's not necessarily.
I agree with you guys are saying.
It's also not coming out of nowhere.
Yeah, true.
He showed up and played and was like, I support this.
So it's like he's flaming.
He's putting fuel on the fire just as much as anybody else.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a fair point.
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I have to be honest.
Did you put those bar stools together yourself or those come, uh, put together?
I put those together.
How long that take you?
Not that long because they,
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being a little bit tedious, kind of hurt my fingers. But at the end of the day, I was like,
I put those together. It's kind of cool. I will say, so I put up. So I put up.
these bookshelves right above this computer that you can't see. And it was pretty easy.
You just drill stuff into the wall and it's no problem. There were four screws total that you had
to do. And I got through three of them and the fourth one didn't go the way that I wanted it to.
So at some point in the future, when we're doing this podcast, there's a chance that I just get
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All right, Frankie, now you can say whatever the fuck you want.
Although I will check.
I can't.
I will check.
Oh, I don't see like the, you know, they rate the ads on how, I don't see anything.
This one doesn't have it.
Nah, we'll let it go.
I think people can pick up context clues.
But you got to throw in those wall anchors, man.
I've been a wall anchor whore at my new house.
I'm talking, I'm throwing in anchors for the lightest photos ever
because I just don't want to deal with fucking bullshit.
And I was,
it's coming down.
Yeah,
you got to take those up.
You can't have just like screws into drywall and then like a heavy fucking shelf on top of your Mac computer.
You just can't do that.
Take them down.
We'll come over.
We'll throw anchors in there and then we'll secure it.
Simple as that.
It's going to take two seconds.
We'll see about that.
I mean, it lasted two weeks.
I've had it for about two weeks now.
Did you hit a stud, you think?
Do you know if like it went through any wood?
I would say unlikely.
Think about like the size behind that.
It's like nothing, it's not going into anything.
It's going through the first couple inches and then it's just sitting there just out into nothing.
You know what I mean?
The screw is not drilled into anything.
It's just in the air.
I know,
I know at 3 a.m. some night I'm going to wake up thinking that someone is coming in to kill me
and it's going to be these books are going to be on the ground.
How am I getting a new lock right now?
I'm in Monterey, California.
I've got the nicest guy of all time and let me into his head.
house and this lock has been on this house for 50 years. Frankie Borelli and his dad show up and now we got to
get a new lock. This lock has lasted however long this building's been alive or standing up.
It's fucking crazy that like the second I got here, we're making home improvements and now I got to go to like
Spanish Bay Town Hall and see if they got a box of locks. Like this is crazy. But it's a mistake.
my dad's outside putting
where is he walking to
he just walked out of the house
and he's just on his way
on to Spanish Bay right now
just live in life
I don't even know if he can do that
there he goes
all right
how's the weather good
yeah it's a little cloudy
but like 63 right now
and just it feels like you're in an air-conditioned room
it's just compared to New York City
in New York where it was
beating down 95 degrees
every single day
to step up
off the plane and just be like wow just a nice breeze we wear a hoodie dude my guess he just sent me
a video of him just laying down in front of roy mackroy hitting a driver in slow motion and
rory just roast a driver right over s e with the phone oh my god what yeah this guy i mean i don't know
that we can probably put this out i'm sure they're going to want to do but i'm going to send this to
you guys and we're going to talk about it uh what a hero that man is what an
absolute hero.
All right.
What else do I want to get to?
Merchandise.
We can talk about merchandise real quick.
Do a little plug our back to school stuff,
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Oh my gosh.
The Unreal,
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Those two pullovers that got the hoodie and then we got the rowback hoodies in there.
Those joggers.
I don't know that we've really done joggers before.
Those are absolutely excellent.
I brought a couple of those in my bag.
I refilled a new clothes since I got my bag back.
I've actually got a bunch of that stuff right there.
But I tried the joggers on because like I just wanted to see what it would look
I'm not necessarily a joggers guy.
I don't have the bottom half really.
Like my legs are,
the bottom half of my legs are just so wide
that I was never quite sure
how they were going to look in joggers.
I put them on yesterday.
They actually looked pretty good.
Like they don't look as elephant-like
as I thought they were going to look on my legs.
And dude, I want to say something
that'll get you excited.
I don't know that we've released it for this release,
but I think they've got something cooking for you
when it comes to joggers and colors.
Oh yeah.
Really?
I want to put that tease
out there into the world just for anyone that may be just you know trying to pick up what i'm putting
down i saw an image i don't know if they're officially coming out yet but you're going to be really
excited if you're going to be joggers guy oh yeah i i mean i might be now these things are so nice
dude what they are fucking awesome store at barcelsports.com people can go check out the merchandise it's
yeah the new stuff the new stuff's fresh the tiger stuff still selling that crazy too man the tiger
good.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
We got new stuff coming out this fall, too, man.
We got the ain't no hobby bag that I put in play.
I think those are coming out this fall.
Those will be ready.
So, yeah, we got good gear on there.
I can't get over Trent.
Speaking of good, his Carnusti hoodie is.
That Carnusdy hoodie is so good.
One of the better thing about it.
I'm telling you, man, and our data at Barstle Sports with the Barstle Golf brand backs it up,
every clubhouse in America, in Scotland, all over the world, should be selling
hoodies because a guy like me is going to walk in there.
And apparently there's a lot of guys like me who are going to walk in there and
want a hoodie.
And Carnusti, Carnusty has hoodies and I bought one.
And it's gotten 10 compliments since we started doing this podcast.
So it's like everybody just starts selling hoodies, everybody.
I couldn't agree more.
We sell hoodies.
So start out barstlesports.com.
Go check them out.
And then let's do a couple from the galleries.
I do want to laugh because I pretty much thought that from the gallery would be most
of the show.
It's an hour and 45 minutes in and we haven't done one yet.
We have 11.
We'll probably get to one.
But T.J.S. said,
all this Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon talk has me thinking,
which that's coming out on Sunday night.
If Torverse Live did trial by combat,
who are you taking from each league as your fighter?
I got the PJ a tour guy right off the jump.
No, no.
You got a pick.
Oh, you got your guy.
Sorry, sorry.
Wait, so I have to pick someone from each tour to fight?
Yeah, who would be your guys that you would pick?
So if you're running the PJ Tour,
you're running live, who are your guys that you pick from each tour to do trial by combat?
And we're talking about an actual fight. We're not talking about a golf match.
Trial by combat like from the fucking from the show.
Well, actually, my guy might hit both. John Rom is the PJ tour representative.
Yeah. It's got to be Bryson, right? I mean, I don't know anyone else. I mean, if you give
Bryson some sort of royd rage, I think he could probably snap someone's head off.
I think he probably already gave himself a roid raid. But I would say that the, I do think we've had this
conversation with Brooks, though, where we were like, would Brooks beat up Bryson because Bryson's like all big muscle, but he's not as sort of, I don't know, coordinated maybe, but he, I mean, clearly he's pretty coordinated. He's fucking.
You watch some of these YouTube videos that Bryson puts that. And honestly, like, Bryson, we haven't talked about Bryson in a long time. Bryson has been doing like a pretty cool thing. If he just wasn't so unlikeable all the time, like he's documenting so much of his actual behind the, well, it was the PGA tour experience on YouTube. He's actually done a pretty good job.
of it. He's like pretty committed if you watch his YouTube stuff. Committed to like filming himself.
Like that stuff's not the easiest stuff to like constantly vlog when you're like having that much
money. But some of these things I'll see like a bunch of clips on Twitter from him or Instagram.
He's a fucking lunatic when he works out, man. That guy is he gets hyped up and angry, which I think
you have to like to try and swing 3,000 miles an hour. But I could see him putting up a fight.
I think Rom absolutely rips him in half. I mean, Rom's built like a fucking dinosaur.
he's got like big old paws he's like a polar bear and there's there's a real rage in there
so that that goes a long way oh yeah i think a sneaky live guy might be a sneaky little guy might
be phil he's just i feel like he's probably got a lot of pent of anger these days he's got a little
brother thing with rom so it might be a good matchup in that regard but yeah brooks or brison
probably you think d jers he too cool com collector and he's also like yeah he's seen him without a
shirt up. I think he's a little soft.
I think
DJ wouldn't even want to fight. If he
got picked it, he, if he got picked it, like, I don't
want to do it, man.
Rom, is there anybody else in the PJ tour that would come close to
Rom? No. No. He's a
no-brainer. He's a house.
House. I mean, who's even
close on live? Like, I don't even know if they're all
kind of scrawny older guys.
I know. It's Rom would just
destroy anyone, I think. Like,
and he would like, try about
combat, you got to murder the other person, he would get the job done. Like, he would not. He wouldn't
stop. I don't think of it. You guys, are you guys excited for that House of Dragon show? I want to say
that I am like, through the roof excited for that show. Whoa. My excitement hasn't gotten
there yet because I've stayed away. I'm trying to tamper my expectations since the final season, obviously,
of Thrones and how invested in that I was. So I'm, I'm trying to tamper. But I'm, I rewatched the trailer yesterday
last night actually to get hyped up and I started to get pretty juiced up.
It's the one thing that's hard thus far is there's zero connection to any of the characters.
So like even watching the trailer, I have like no, I don't have any connection to the characters yet.
So the trailer, it didn't really get me as hyped, you know, as a lot of throne stuff.
But even just being back in the world for two or three minutes, just being in the world, seeing the Iron Throne,
seeing the dragons, kind of like hearing some of the lingo again got me pretty juiced up.
See, I agree with that.
I don't think trailers really get me off when it's like something completely new.
Yeah.
Like I think like season two trailers are the ones that really get you juiced where you're like,
oh shit, where are they at?
I agree in characters, but the setting and the world, like you're saying, Riggs, that's
very familiar thoughts.
Oh, yeah.
All you need to show me is like, I have a dragon opening up and you're like, oh, fuck,
like it's fucking Game of Thrones.
We're ready.
I agree.
I think enough time has passed.
And it's just, I want to be in that world again.
It's time like show me tittyes, show me dragons, show me fucking somebody getting their throat cut.
Dude, that was all I need on a Sunday night, dude.
It got me thinking too.
Like when I was, when I was seeing, when I was seeing the characters pop on the screen, I couldn't help but think like, man, some of these characters are going to get shockingly eliminated.
And I can't wait for that.
I don't even know, like, about them yet.
I don't know who I like, don't like, but any of these people on my screen, I could be shocked.
They might get their head locked.
in like episode six and I might be stunned by it.
Like that guy.
If they can recapture 45% of Primo Game of Thrones,
amen.
And that's a good point where you're saying.
Like that show was at its best when the characters weren't as dug in.
And we at a certain point with every show,
you get to a point where it's like,
that guy's not going to die.
He's just not going to die.
It's the nature of having a show.
If you had a show where everybody could die at all times
throughout all 10 seasons,
that's just not a show that anyone would actually connect with.
But the first couple seasons of Thrones where it was like literally anybody can get it,
that's when it's great.
And if they can try to recapture just a part of that with this House of Dragons thing,
I'm going to be all the way in.
It's also really impressive that they can do prequels like that,
where you know the ending of the whole general story in the world that they're trying to show you
and you still get invested in watching things before the thing you already fell in love with.
I think about that with Better Call Saul.
The fact that they were able to make a seven season or,
however many seasons it's been, series based off of something that we already know the ending to
in every way, shape, or form. We know all the storylines, all the characters, how it ended.
And they're like, hey, watch like everything that happened before that and like get invested in
that story. Like, dude, I'm still watching Better Call Saul with like my heart pounding in my fucking
throat being like, is he going to make it through this? Even though I know from breaking bad,
he obviously made it through it because I watched fucking six seasons of that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like Godfather 2 is a little bit like that where they do on Corleone's, you know, his rise or
whatever.
You're kind of like, well, I know where this goes, but they make the characters so interesting
and the setting so interesting that you get invested in.
Star Wars.
Star Wars was like that.
I mean, when they went, when they went back and did episodes one, two, and three
and like you really started to realize that the first fucking movie ever was was called
episode four and they put it on the scroll, you're like, wow. And then the fact that you're,
you're almost more excited to be like, how did we get here? Like I know, because you kind of do know
the characters, right? You're like entering something new with a relationship to the characters.
And so hopefully, I'm sure we'll get some of that. Like when I heard the name Targaryen,
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could watch like athletics versus the reds like just a random baseball game like which i love being
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I got to find my dad, by the way.
I don't know how long we're doing this.
You think he's lost in sauce?
What time?
Is it 10 a.
It's been 20 minutes?
Yeah, it's been 20 minutes.
He's just gone.
That's, uh, what is it?
Sticks is that place that's you can also eat at that's right next to the putting green there?
Is that what it's called?
Uh, at Spanish Bay?
Yeah, I think so.
I believe so.
Uh, I'm excited for you, Frankie.
You pumped to play Pebble with your game the way it is right now?
So pumped.
I'm, I'm, so my, the thing I'm most pumped about is the seventh hole.
it's my fucking
it's my is my bugaboo
this bugaboo is a bad thing right
yep
I feel like bugaboo might be something you call
like you like
it's like maybe you call your blanket
if you're a kid call it your bugger
yeah it's like a little too soft
and nice for something that's so
like the seventh hole is horrific to me
I've played three times
it'll be my fourth time playing I believe
which is crazy to say
but
fuck man it is
I've never even come close to hitting that green
it's like a 110 yard shot
like sometimes it's like 80 yards
downwind, right? Like it's a little flip wedge. Take a 54 degree and just go back and forward. Like,
you know how to do this now. And I've always chunked it. I've always scalded it. I've always
pulled it. Just figure it out. I am hitting that green and I'm making it too. I've been playing
so well. I've been having so much fun playing the game of golf that I refuse to have a bad day out there.
We're taking caddies. My dad's going to play great. It's just going to be fun. We're going to have a bunch of
drinks. We're staying here on property. We can just fucking have a day. Oh my God. It's just,
it's just, but you know what? The stress never ends. Like, this is supposed to be a stress
free week for my dad. This is all I've been trying to do. Get him away from like stress,
ocean golf. And we're fucking, we got to go find a fucking lock now. You know what I mean?
But think about it. He's stressed right now maybe, but he's just, he's wandering around. He
don't know where he is. He was pacing this morning. He's like, I can't have a locked out.
But now that he's out there, he's probably just like standing in the ocean.
Yeah, right.
That's right.
Hopefully.
It's a great place.
If you're going to be stressed, it's a pretty good place to be.
That's right.
I sent you guys a video of him pacing and the background's like hilarious.
Like we're like in the greatest place of all time.
You're pacing and like if you have to be pacing, there's nowhere better to be pacing.
Yeah.
And the flight was good.
It was like everything is like fine.
We're okay.
We're going to have a good day.
We're going to get breakfast and then we're going to play.
But yeah, it's never.
I mean, my day started too, that someone.
at my birthday party, somebody brought like a white claw.
And like I should have kicked the person out or like murdered them.
And it's in the side like view of one of my Instagram stories.
And some dude tweeted Dave and Dave's texting me like should I start promoting your like your oppositions and your rivals of the podcast?
I'm like, dude, I swear I bought $400 worth of high noons.
Like you should have seen how many high noons were on that table, but they weren't in that video.
So I almost canceled the trip yesterday.
That happened to me at the airport.
I almost canceled the trip.
We were delayed an hour and I looked at my dad.
I said, sorry, Papa, you're not going to pebble.
Because we want our friend Trish brought a one white cloth.
It's the worst drink of all times.
It's like, no, we have high news, we have truilies.
It's like I don't even know how I didn't see it.
Had I seen it, she would have been dead.
She would have been dead.
Murdered.
That's talk.
I can't believe that.
it up on Dave's radar.
That's a nice.
It's just,
and then like,
I'm on my way out here.
It's like,
all right.
Now we finally got here.
And then we fucking got locked out.
It's like,
it's just never one of these days,
it's going to be simple.
And unfortunately,
I think that's going to be like when I die in my sleep.
Like that's going to be the most simple thing that happens to me.
I'm just going to end.
You know what I mean?
Like,
finally something happened where he didn't,
it just went.
It's just like that's going to be it.
Fuck.
Or I with you probably,
they'll bring you back.
Exactly.
I'll be like 98 years old.
I'll like watch the Islanders win the Stanley Cup from my deathbed.
And I'll be like, oh, and everything will just go perfect.
And then someone's going to come rushing in and be like,
Kaka!
And I'm going to be on a fucking feeding tube until I'm 110.
And then they're going to have some technology that like I'm going to live until
them 200, but my fucking toenails are going to be rotting and shit.
It's going to be a fucking nightmare.
It's just never going to be easy.
What a journey.
I'm wearing our Augusta shirt today, by the way, Frank.
Oh, hell yeah.
We always usually wear that to the same class.
I knew you were going to be here, so I wore it.
That's huge.
Toronto.
Is Toronto?
Toronto's next week, right?
Is there still like a space?
I think there's space on the second day in Toronto.
I believe there is still room.
I was talking to Justin Mancini.
He's like, do you want to get in a little earlier and experience Toronto, Daddy?
I said, absolutely do I want to get there early.
So I'm going to get there like around 4 o'clock.
I've never been to Toronto.
So I want to have.
I've been to try.
We used to go there for hockey all the time.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I want recommendations, send them my way.
Don't ask me to play.
We're not playing any golf.
So don't send me.
I love everyone up there, but like I can't play golf that week.
We have the bar so classic.
But if you're going to send me a recommendation, I want it for be like a bar or a restaurant or one of those things.
I love Canada.
Canada is excellent.
A huge Canada guy.
We might be doing a travel series in Canada next year just for everybody out there.
We might try to go to the Calgary Stampede and maybe hit the Banff area.
So if anybody's got any connections for us on that front,
we're trying to put together a little trip.
But I love Canada.
I can't wait to get up there.
I'm going straight from here.
I'm really excited.
Actually, I'm going to Pioneer's for 10 days.
I'm going to just kind of chill out.
I got a couple buddies coming down.
So I'll be playing some golf.
So I will not be getting to Toronto early
because I'm going to be hanging,
playing a little bit of G in North Carolina with my fellas.
So I'm excited to get down there and just relax.
It's been a few months on the road.
How would you feel if someone stayed at the Riggs cottage
and had to drill the dead bolt lock off and have to
get a new one?
Honestly, well, it's different for Josh because his place isn't like a rental.
You kind of expect when your place is a rental that shit's just going to happen.
I think when you just give it to like a trusted buddy like you, you probably don't expect
that you're going to have to like drill and redo the law.
I'm like, yeah, I don't want to have to do it.
But he's not, the issue would be if you made him deal with it, but you're just going to hopefully
just deal with it and then hopefully he doesn't have to really worry about.
I hope he doesn't have to deal with it.
with it, but at some point he might have to like make a phone call and be like, we need to get this
locked to this house.
Yeah, it's not.
I don't have like the smash bay directory.
I know we took like on the front door, my brother pulled one of the most heroic moves
of all time.
He's a handy person.
I'm not.
And, you know, ski shooting the whole thing.
And he legit took, he like talked to his building manager because that's what he does for
a living.
He's like property manager for these different apartment buildings.
And he called his.
property manager and they took the door that was on the house, the original door, took it off and then
bought this like device that drilled holes in a certain way where we were able to then install
the simply safe padlock system so that now we can just change the pass code every day basically
and obviously control who can get in and who can get out. But he took it from a door handle
that had probably been on there for 100 years and without us having to get a new door, literally
redrilled the whole sanded it, painted it and all that.
And it was a fucking nightmare.
So hopeful years is not a nightmare having to replace a pretty simple deadline.
Honestly, it feels like it's going to be like a night.
Like the guy was here and he's like, I got to go.
He was like he had the word lock, Mr. Locke or whatever.
And he's like, I can't.
I have nothing.
He's like, I don't have a solution.
And he left.
He's gone.
I think ultimately it's going to be fine.
you're in it right now you're just in it but
I don't know we'll see to get this solved and then you're just on vacation
you're hanging for a couple days
yeah we'll see you're confident
I don't even know what that means he says all the homes are the same so we'll figure it out
oh he I get what he's saying all they got to have extra locks
uniform locks situation who is the people that have the uniform locks is it like
it's got to be like a management company yeah that yeah exactly all right
We're going to make the key master from a Matrix.
Just have a billion key.
We're going to make some phone calls.
It is what it is.
If none of us just go knock on your neighbor's door and be like, what do I do?
We have your lock, please, and you deal with it.
No, just be like, what would you, you guys live here?
What would you do if this happened to you?
That's not bad, yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm really excited to do this.
But yeah, no, it's going to be a lot of fun.
This is a great, great start.
Yeah, a great start.
Yeah, but I think I'm going to make a video out of this.
I already have very funny stuff.
I mean, we tried to break in.
So, I mean, I already have funny stuff.
And it is what it is.
We're just going to come.
I'm going to just put a video out on YouTube and people are just going to watch it,
hopefully.
So that's the trip.
I'm excited to watch it.
What a cool thing you're doing.
I think it's getting, it's getting, you know, overshadowed by some negative outcomes.
But what a really cool thing you're doing, Frankie.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Tell your dad, hi for us.
Please.
Hope you guys have a great time.
Are you going to be on Thursday show?
I'm going to try.
Wednesday's like a bear.
but I might actually be able to join in if you guys do something a little bit later in the day
because we're playing at 8.30 finish and then we don't have a flight until like nine that night.
So I should be able to do like if I come back here.
I should do like an hour or something before we have to make our way to San Francisco.
Okay.
Well then everybody will hear from you on Thursday.
Yes.
All right.
Well, enjoy the week, everyone.
Frankie play well.
Excited to hear about it.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
