Fore Play - Winged Foot, Do Your Thing
Episode Date: September 17, 2020The time has come. The U.S. Open, at perhaps its most grueling venue, is upon us. We discuss the turf crew who has so tirelessly prepared the golf course, the players who know they’re in for somethi...ng wild, and our expectations entering the competition. We met and chatted with Patrick Reed for the first time. We broke the ice with Rickie Fowler. We exchanged back-patting with Phil Mickelson. This and much more as the 2020 U.S. Open begins!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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It is Wednesday night that we're recording. It's Thursday for you folks.
The tournament is beginning, has begun, it's go time, its preparation has finished.
The golf course is ready to go. The weather is perfect.
There's a lot for us to get to from quotes, from interactions, from videos, all kinds of good stuff.
stuff. But it's finally here. It's the first U.S. Open not held in June since 1931, which is an
amazing stat. But a lot's going on. Frankie's wired because of this video. So to give people a little
to set the stage for you folks back home there, it's 6.17 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Our video that we've
been talking about on the podcast that we put this teaser out that just blew up probably way
bigger than any of us imagined.
This video is about to come out in less than two hours.
Frankie and Bug have been working on it nonstop.
They don't sleep.
They don't eat.
They just work on this video.
And Frankie looks even less like he has any life or blood flowing through his system than he
usually does.
So how are you, Frank?
Just a little stress.
We're adding a bunch of different things to the video because like, I don't, it's
just like when you're about to export it and you're about to put it out to the
world and you realize that it has 1.4 million views. A two-minute teaser for a golf video on a
golf maintenance crew has 1.4 million views and Dave Bortnoy's like, this looks fucking amazing
and all this stuff. Like we looked at each other, me and eBug, we're like, we got to go back
to this footage and make sure it's like as good as possible. I mean, we were at a pretty good
place this morning and we blew it up and like really tried to keep it flowing. And then you
think of all the little things, graphics, name plates, uh, captions.
music, the whole fucking thing,
like the guy who filmed it,
what's his name, the whole fucking thing.
So it's a lot.
But we're going to get there.
Whoever's watching it, hopefully, you enjoyed it.
I've watched it through like seven times.
I feel like now it's a 30-minute video essentially.
And I think you're going to like it.
I mean, I don't know how you can't like it.
It's fucking phenomenal footage.
It's phenomenal footage.
The teaser, we've been looking at the teaser
internally for a week or so,
week and a half,
and I probably watched it 15 times and then you guys tweaked it and then put that teaser out last night
and I've watched it maybe 40 times since then because it's it's how much better did it get since the
first time we said the music the bike when it comes in like do do with the fucking it's dark out like oh man
it just slabs the quotes I will say one of the one of the quotes where it's like uh
somebody says something about roller coaster and it hits right when he's doing the roller
the green. Oh, I lost it during that. Yeah. The interesting is that like, you watch the trailer now and you see
how far and wide it's gone in less than 24 hours and you think, or people watching you might be thinking,
like, of course that was going to hit. Like, why were, why was Frankie so nervous or why is he so nervous
now right before the video comes out? But you really don't know. Like, you don't know if people are
going to cling on to it or not. That's what people don't understand. But the trailer was so good that
People are probably thinking people are going to like that regard.
You really don't know.
We had this idea and we get to the golf course and you see like how fucking awesome these guys are.
And I get there at 4 o'clock in the morning on one of these days and I send people out into the course with cameras.
I'm flying this drone around.
And then everyone just comes back.
We get in the car and like we just hope we got it.
Right.
Yeah, I'm like manipulating people.
I'm like walking around.
I'm like the freelance guy isn't a golf guy.
This guy who came with this incredible camera doesn't.
knows nothing about God.
He's like, why is there a flag in the middle of the grass?
And I was like, well, we got some work to do today.
And so to get those shots, it's like, all right, like, I'm standing over his shoulder
being like, hey, man, he's about to replace this hole.
Like, let's get low.
He's going to, I'm like, holy shit, he's filling in the hole with fucking sand.
Let's go.
Come over here.
He's running.
So there's a lot of that.
And then you plug it into a computer and you're like, I hope we have the story.
So it's like, it is a lot of stress.
And you hope it like means it like matters to like people's like, do people fucking
care that this guy just put in a sprinkler head?
I don't know. I cared because I was there.
I don't know if someone just sitting there did.
But yeah, hopefully everyone watched it.
The reason why we're like talking about it as if it didn't happen is because it hasn't
come out yet.
You guys, this video may have like crashed and burned.
I don't know what happens in two hours.
Who knows?
Maybe it never came out.
I don't know.
Look, the video is going to do extremely well.
It is a very funny concept that you put a teaser out.
And it's almost like you want to damper your teeth.
teaser production because if your teaser is so good, then you're just forced to have a video
be really, really, really good, which is what I think happened with you and Bug of like,
oh, fuck, we told everybody it's going to be the greatest thing of all time. And now we have to
actually make a video that's really good. That's what happened with, that's what happened with
Meta Ian. They put out of this trailer that is just, I don't want to put that on you right now,
but that was just a dynamite trailer. A dog shit movie. We have, we have, so we took a lot from
the, obviously the video for the trailer, but I think we're the first people in the world that
made a trailer before the video. We made the trailer first. We took all just different types of stuff
that we remembered was good. We made the trailer. But then, but there's scenes, like, there's a scene
when Steve Ravidoo is walking down the fairway that I don't care if you liked any other part of
the video. If you can't appreciate how good this looks of him walking in and talking about the
morning due and the temperature and what that does to the ground, like nobody.
he knows this stuff and he's talking on this walkie talkie and we got the audio someone's like man
it's fucking nice out here steve and like in that little bloop on the on the headset it you can't
script that kind of stuff and there's another little easter egg in here for everyone that watched
the video there's a part in which this guy in slow motion puts on a sprinkler he turns it on
like in the ground and it sounds like we added a sprinkler noise like but that happened to be a part
of the song that I had chosen.
And eBug was like editing
and like moving around. He goes, holy fuck.
Wherever we put this part happened
to have a water swush
noise as the water
shoots out of...
Sometimes when you're editing these long videos, you can't believe
what's happening. And we couldn't believe that
there's a water swoosh coming out
of the fucking faucet, but it's part of
the song. Whatever. I'm too close
to this thing. So hopefully everyone like it.
I think it's good. It is what it.
So I've seen it. I've seen it a couple times.
And it is very good.
But even if it falls flat on its face,
the fact of the matter is
is that maintenance crews all across this great country
and all across the world
are going to be happy
that you finally shine a light
on things that go on in a golf course
before everyone shows up.
I saw, I mean, obviously the trailer was going nuts yesterday
and I was sort of keeping an eye on it.
And a lot of people in the comments
and quote tweeting it were members of maintenance staff
being like, thank God someone has finally
shine a light on our thankless jobs.
So at the very least, you are going to have those people in your corner.
I think Pashley from fucking Pioneer's wrote,
thank you for shining a light on those who work in the dark.
He did.
Got away with words.
That's a great one.
I saw that and I had to retweet.
I was like, you know.
It came in a little late.
Like we had just got the narrator to finish his job.
And like that, that line came in just an hour too late.
Well, guess what, Mr. Patsy?
We will come shine a light on those who work in the dark down at Pioneer's Resort
whenever you want.
This is just what.
How big is that staff?
We're going to do.
But it's two courses. How big is
Piner's got 10 courses?
They must have a thousand people.
It's going to be great.
And it's funny because at this point,
people have seen it. And we're just talking about it.
But if you haven't, go to Ford Play Golf on YouTube
or go to Barstlesports.com.
Check out the video.
Be it. The teaser, I mean, Kegan Bradley quote tweeted it.
Dave Portnoy, who I don't think is ever tweeted about
anything we've ever done in a positive light whatsoever.
However, tweet, videoed it and said that if you like golf, this looks really sick, which
is, it's a great compliment coming from Dave.
That's maybe the nicest thing he's ever said.
And he said that to me on that we were on a plane from Philadelphia, and I showed,
I don't know why I had the balls to just show him in the trailer.
Like, hey, you want to see what I've been working on?
Like, it's just like a passion project at this point for me.
Like, I'm like fucking obsessed with this thing.
It's like, I've always wanted something that, like, looked good.
When I edit pizza reviews, I like, I like make sure, like, if he's singing a song,
I'll like make sure that the song is matched up with his words.
And I go in and like the beat has to be perfect.
I'm like,
what am I doing for a fucking pizza review?
Now we get to do something with like,
you know what I mean?
Like Dave's going to be funny regardless of if the camera is whatever,
the audio is whatever.
He can talk to a fucking tin can.
It's going to be funny.
Now we have to actually work on something that's like really fucking cool.
And I showed Dave and I think he saw like how I was into it.
And he's like, holy fuck.
He watched it without any audio.
He's like,
if this has any bit of audio in it,
it's like the best thing I've ever seen.
He's like, this is crazy.
It is.
Well, great.
Great work.
These guys, Frankie and Bug, especially, I think, have been driving each other fucking nuts.
I finally snapped on him.
Like, I actually, like, I've been really good.
And I think he hates me now.
And like, Brendan, I, David Blatman, I got to apologize to him.
I told him to get the fuck out of my face.
We almost got into a fight of color correction.
Like, everyone's huddled around this thing.
I'm like, do we have to color correct this thing?
And they're like, what do you mean color crack?
I'm like, I don't know.
Maybe, like, make the colors different?
And he's like, who the fuck you talking?
I'm like, why?
I was like, why are you even fucking here right now?
That's what I said to him.
Who asked you to be here?
He's like, Brendan ended up here.
I'm like, everyone took a step back.
We're fucking way too close to this thing.
Let's just fucking settle down.
Sometimes I would go back there and just like watch them work
because it's funny to watch them work.
And like Frankie is so, it's just like every little thing.
And I wanted to start filming like a behind the scenes,
a behind the scenes of them yelling at each other about the behind this.
It was, I mean, Frankie is very, very involved about every last second.
And, you know, like you said, you're probably going to end up killing each other
at some point, but the product's going to be great.
And it sucks that everyone's who at Rochester, the audio sucks.
And there's no, like, there's parts where we just didn't know people were going to be on
the course and we have to stick a boom mic in him.
There's fucking leaf blowers.
The audio is not as good.
We're going to get better at that.
Gilhans is just in the video.
He's walking down the fairway.
And I go, that's fucking Gilhant.
And we just like go up to him with a camera and we get an unreal quote from him.
But you don't have time to like run back, get a mic.
We're just like, just say your words, Gil.
Like, just speak.
So the audio is not that great.
and I'm sure that's going to be the one complaint in certain spots,
but aside from that, whatever.
I'm done talking about it.
It's out in the world.
It is what it is.
Well, overall, amazing work.
I'm pumped to see it.
We haven't seen it outside of, I think, Trent.
So when it goes live tonight at 8,
and we're going to be in there commenting on it,
and it looks awesome.
The T's got people fired up.
So great work.
If you haven't watched it yet,
go check it out and tweet nice things to Frankie and Ebug
because they worked extremely hard on it.
Okay, we've got a lot to get to in terms of the actual U.S. Open.
We've done more work.
as we just outlined on what's going on behind the U.S. Open golf course and getting it prepared.
We had Steve Rabidoo on the last show, who is the head super.
He stars in this video.
We had Jason Gore, who's big, big time involved in the course setup for the U.S. Open,
but he's also the director of player relations for the United States Golf Association.
And in the show before that, we had Kalamara Kawhan, who's the most recent major champ.
So we've had a lot of guests.
Now it's time for us to just talk.
It's time for us to just get into the U.S. Open, dig deep.
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Okay, wingfoot.
I've been here.
Jake's been here for a few days now.
Frankie, I believe, has the other credential.
There's only like 40 credentials total in the world.
How about this?
How about this?
The USGA for the US Open went from 950 credentials to 40.
Holy shit.
How ridiculous is that?
So there's not many people on site.
I'm curious for you guys back home,
you guys kind of having more of experience as the average listener out there,
just checking golf channel, check in the internet, check in Twitter.
What's your guys take on Wingfoot thus far?
Well, before we get to that, I do want to ask you,
how surprised were you that you tested negative for COVID-19?
When you were sitting in that hotel and waiting for your results to come back,
how nervous were you that you were going to get a positive
and you weren't going to be able to go?
I've never been more, I've never thought I had coronavirus until I got tested for
coronavirus and then you know the whole the entire time period whatever it was 20 hours from when
i got tested to when i got the result i thought i couldn't smell anymore i thought i like lost the
ability to smell which is one of the big signs i thought all the sudden that i felt um like i was getting
really congested that my nose so i started to think that i was being sick as we all have many many
many times. I will say that it's not that I'm surprised that I didn't test positive.
I would be more surprised if I got the antibody and didn't test positive for the antibody.
Because I think, like, I probably am more likely to have it than anyone in the country.
I've been to like 15 states and literally throw giant events every, like twice a week.
And it is outside. We try to be smart about it. We have hand sanitizer. There's masks.
but like people get it that do things way better than I'm doing them.
And so it wouldn't be crazy.
So I think it would have been a little bit strange if like during this exact two-week period
that I got tested, I actually have it.
I think it would be more likely that I had it at some point and just was asymptomatic
and got over it and would test positive for the antibody.
Yeah.
I went and got tested.
I had no idea where the hell to go.
I got lost in Frickin Westchester.
They dropped me up at some place.
like Adventureland or something like that.
And I just had to find these tents.
It was nuts.
I was like,
I was next to a roller coaster.
I told,
I called Jake.
I'm like,
where do I go to get this test?
And the Uber driver left.
So I walked all the way fucking down.
Whatever.
The test was,
that's like the fifth time I've gotten tested.
So I feel like I'm just like a,
I'm a pro at those things.
And then,
yeah,
so I'm pissed.
I wasn't able to go into fucking wing foot today.
But we got,
had to get this video done.
Because honestly,
being in there for a practice round,
and we'll talk about all your interactions.
But like,
that's once in a lifetime being one of 40,
which probably you've got to think half of those people
don't even walk the course or something.
So maybe you're like one of 20 people walking the golf course,
while all the pros, the best players in the world,
are just there just playing golf or practice around,
like good vibes.
Like they're not even in, like contention yet in competition.
This morning, Tiger Woods seat off at 645,
Jake and I were the only people following him.
Like, yeah, when he would come through a certain hole,
there's volunteers working that hole that would be watching,
but nobody was following him.
Like, just me and Jake Bass and Tiger Woods were the only people follow like that.
It was just that.
Did you get any interaction or any look or any that-a-boy?
Were you peacocking a little bit?
Like, oh, I'm just, I'm out of here.
Like, at 645, when you're the only one is out there,
there's no way he didn't know.
No, you're not.
We, like, we always, you know.
If the answer is barely yes, then no, it didn't happen.
No, no, no, we didn't.
There was nothing with Tiger.
But I'm saying, like, Joey and Robbie usually kind of take that role, right?
And they'll be like, how about that game last night for your boy there, Rigsie or something?
And, like, Tiger clearly can hear that, which I think maybe kind of hurts us because it almost is like,
Tiger can then be like, oh, someone else has already communicated with them, so I don't have to like.
Well, we're acting like they don't have a system in place of how who gets to interact with.
Tiger and who doesn't. They're not doing this on the fly.
Correct. If Robbie Mac or
Jolakava says, how about that hockey game
last night, they've had that plan in their
head since, you know, they got on property
like a week ago. Like, they know what
they're doing. They're like, we know how to handle
these fucking amateurs from the podcast
blog thing. Like, that's, there's no
problem handling them. So we're saying that
sarcastically, but that is just how
it is.
Absolutely. So, like, it was
pretty clear Tiger, especially Wednesday.
Like, when we had our chat with
Tiger at the year's open last year. That was Monday. Tiger was putting with like no fucking
shoes on basically right outside his hotel. A little different. Wednesday is like he was out
there at 640 in the morning for a reason. He didn't want anybody to touch him, talk to him.
He was all business. He did his thing. He was gone by 9 a.m. Tiger was just gone. Like a Kevin
Kisner hadn't even woken up from his like hangover yet, you know, and like Tiger's gone. So it was,
he was in and out, did his thing. And that was it. So, so then we kind of, you know, moved on. We were, we were
jumping around. But it is an experience seeing these practice rounds with no one, no one,
no one around whatsoever. It's bizarre. It's, you know, like, it's just weird. There's,
there's nobody. I think we talked about it during the PGA, but there's nobody clapping. There's
nobody, they're not doing their, you know, their fun little games for the fans. And if they,
they try to hole out of crazy chips that the crowd will go wild, there's just none of that.
It's just dead silent. They're out there. You can hear everything, which like,
Jake and I were wondering what level of just deleting audio do they do of conversations
between tour pros because, you know, guys just out there muckling it up telling stories about
this person or talking or gossip.
You can just fucking hear it.
Like if you're within 25 yards of someone out there, Phil or whoever, you can just
hear them chatting in every word that they're saying, which is never the case usually because,
like I said, there's fans, there's a buzz, there's a hum, and there's none of it.
of that. So the whole thing is, is bizarre. But again, on a personal level, when you have that
type of access, it's just awesome. You also can just ask them what they're doing. Like, we, we were
just, today with Matthew Fitzpatrick, we're just, I was just asking him as soon as he hits his t-shot
on this part, the part three people. I was like, oh, what club was that? It's like seven was,
like, what exactly you're trying to do? It's like, I was a seven-win-what I was trying to hit like this
low cut. You can just ask him right away because there's no one else. There's no fans. There's
no BS. You can just chat with them about every little thing that they're doing.
And so you get a personal look at preparing for a major championship, the best players in the world.
It's very cool.
Sevenwood. He hits a seven wood?
Kiz has one now, too. They hit seven woods.
I think the reason is because that loft with this rough is one of those.
They can hit those low screamers out of the rough.
So they carry those things.
interesting is that a now is that a hybrid almost in terms of law said it's a seven wood i mean it's uh
it's like yeah it's a seven wood it's probably similar to like a three iron loft yeah it's like
you hear like somebody has a seven wood you're like oh you're at least 70 years old i mean nobody
cares the seven wood out of our friend group that i could even think of and then that makes me
think of how many clubs these guys go through in a season like i've got my 14 clubs do you think they
like, depending on the course, choose different clubs?
No.
I think a lot of them, they just kind of stick with their guns.
Like, just have your back.
I mean, because, like, they're bringing in a seven wood this week,
which sounds funny to say.
And then what are they taken out?
I don't know.
Maybe a...
Seven would sound so preposterous.
My dad has a...
I was going to ask if Mr. Borrelli had a seven wood in his bag.
With a rubber face for extra spousy.
He's got like a nine wood, I feel.
Yeah, I feel like who came out.
Was it Cleveland that comes out with those like all hybrid irons?
All the irons or hybrids.
I've said before, before my Kisner tip,
I was very interested in getting all hybrids.
Very interested.
People are like making fun of it and bring the back of my head.
Tread opens up the laptop and he starts like late nights.
Instead of searching like for weird porn sites,
he's like, let me take a look at Cleveland's website here.
He goes into like the amateur status.
like, okay, let me say. And I always remember to delete my search history once I do it
in case somebody gets a hold of my phone. Yeah, as a seven would, they were hit. But it's,
no, it's, it's, it's, it's a, uh, the wing foot, there's just no way wing foot isn't
going to deliver a major vibe. So Harding Park, there was talk of it's still early in terms
of being back and there's no fans at the first time ever at a major. So is it, does it feel like a major?
And it did, but it also at times was sort of, you know,
it wasn't like a place that had been hosting major championships.
So that was adding to it.
Waynefoot, like you see the clubhouse.
You see the greens.
You see like Bobby Jones.
You see the scores that have won there before.
And the second you step on property with how difficult it is too,
it's like, this is a fucking major.
Like there's no, there's no questions.
There's no concern.
There's no like, do we have to get hype?
It's like being hype doesn't matter.
The second that you hit your first fucking T shot, six inches,
too far right in the right rough, and you can't advance your ball more than, you know, 65 yards,
even with a nine-iron in your hands.
And then you're trying to hit a wedge to this green that's got 11 different shelves on it,
and you spin it off.
And now you've got a 45-foot put that you have to do, you have to two-putt to get out of there
with a bogey on the first hole.
It's like, oh, this is a major jet.
This is a USO.
Like, we're just here now doing it.
Does the EPA threaten to pull your credential if you don't tweet about the rough?
because I saw you got involved with that today as well.
You just couldn't help yourself.
You can't help it.
When you're walking through it,
you can't fucking help it.
The shit is,
it is stunning when you walk through it.
Yeah,
that's what I was going to say.
You asked us like,
what's our take on just being behind,
you know,
whatever,
like viewing it on TV.
All we see are the videos of the rough.
And then I think it was the first screen
where the guy rolled it up to the top
where Frankie chip from
and then rolled back all the way down off the front.
Yeah.
And that's like all.
always see it. It just seems like madness. The rough seems outrageous. I mean, we were lucky enough to play it a
couple of weeks ago, but, and Frankie's been lucky enough to be back a bunch of times. I haven't. But it seems
like it's almost just a totally different golf course from what I saw. I mean, we could find balls in
the rough. Like, you know, we found, I would say, 85% of the balls that we flared left or right in the
rough. Now, if we didn't have anyone, I don't think we'd find any balls. I forget the number I
just saw before we came on. But they hired like 35% of the ball.
45 spotters just to be on like new volunteers just so they can find the balls.
Yeah, I think I tweeted that out a while ago.
It was just like those as soon as Frank and I played,
they're going to have a lot of people with little flags scurrying around.
We like to talk about the mainstream media likes to do certain things at these tournaments.
One of them is always like they throw the ball on the green or whatever in the rough.
I think you, I don't know if on the last podcast or maybe you tweeted or someone like,
oh, like here we go.
Like everyone's throwing the ball in the rough.
And then now you've been on the grounds.
And I think could you not like hold yourself from doing it yourself because the rough is that crazy?
You couldn't like you wanted a shit on them, but then you just had to take a video of you throwing the ball in the rough just to show how ridiculous it is.
Is it that bad that you had to do it?
I think it's one of those too.
It's when you take like a picture at night a lot of times you try to capture it and it's just not like of the moon.
The moon's a good example where it's like, oh, people aren't going to believe what this fucking moon looks like you've got to take a picture.
and it just never comes out the same way.
I think.
Right.
It looks like a street light.
Your photos are the worst photos of all time.
I think that that's a good analogy for that because it's like I was texting you guys.
Like we have to make fun of these fucking people with the rob.
And then you get there and you're like, I don't think people get.
It's a fucking forest.
Like they're hitting, they have to hit golf shots.
It's like, well, I have to tell people about this.
People got to see this.
I need them to see this.
The arm of polymer can was nuts.
Like that was really, because when you can,
it's like jamming a fucking remote control against your waist or something,
you need to,
you have to be able to like size it against something.
Hold on, what?
Jamming a control against your waist?
Tell me, what's that?
It's like, it's like you want to just see, like, you know.
What are you talking about?
We're talking penis size here, right?
So if you want to like, fucking whatever, is it a?
What are you taking new stuff?
Send him in a ground.
No, it's like, no, you fucking just see.
What am I working with here?
Is it an iPhone?
Is it an optimum?
Is it an optimum fucking controller?
I think someone tells a story.
I forget who tells, like, the joke about it.
Honestly, maybe it been like Lucy.
I can't remember who tells it.
But you size yourself up against the controller.
It was Frank Luke.
It was who?
Francis.
Oh, fucking Francis.
I just fucking, oh, God.
I just compare Francis to, like, one of the best comedians.
like of the generation.
Damn.
I mean, Francis is a funny dude.
But yeah, Francis tells a story about how he changes like the remotes based off
of like dick size.
Where's like, am I an iPod touch and my app?
He goes sometimes like you're an Apple watch, an Apple TV guy.
Those are brutal.
Like, it's very funny.
He's like, you're stabbing yourself as hard as you can.
You're bleeding.
He's just trying to get as much as you can.
Right?
You're sticking it in to give the leg.
Whatever, it is what it is.
Anyway, all I know is that when we were taught, when we saw that can't,
it reminded me of that.
Like you need that reference.
Oh, I hold.
Arnold Palmer can all the time.
I know how big this fucking thing.
I mean, stop enough.
Put the fucking hand.
I know.
Everybody's thinking of grass
in a comparison.
I know.
But you get my point, though.
Like,
you know how big a fucking Arnold Palmer can is
and you throw that thing in the rough.
And when it completely covers it,
you're like, well, no, holy shit.
Holy shit.
No, I get in a similar vein with the moon thing
where it's fireworks are similar,
where people will see fireworks
and you'll know if fireworks are happening
within like a 10 mile radius of you because everyone in everyone's into story will be that
but then if you're there you're like well these things are exploding in the sky this is fantastic
and you got to get a picture of the rough at wing foot sounds like it's very similar yeah it's like
you won't believe in this thing they're exploding things in the sky and then there there's all
these colors is crazy then it just looks like fireworks but you can't beat them join them that's that's
kind of what it's like point is the rough's fucking crazy the greens are firm the the fairways are
very firm, which I think a lot of people probably, I don't know, you just don't know,
you just don't know, it didn't pick up on or didn't expect. But the fairways, right, the rough is like
luscious and healthy. So it doesn't necessarily remind yourself of, or you don't think of like
firmness with the rough because it's not dry. It's like it's got to be wet. They water the rough.
It's got to be kind of brutal and gnarly. And the fairways, which right next to it are very firm.
And that's going to make it really hard because people, the fairways,
are tiny because any ball that's cutting towards the right side of a fairway or drawing
toward the left side is just going to roll. And if it rolls six inches off of the fairway
and like through that little first cut into the actual rough, it's fucked. It's just you're so
fucked. So people are going to hit good drives that just get the bad balance or that are just
a little bit too far right. That end up in the rough because it's so firm. And then from there,
it's just, we're seeing some ridiculous shots from people.
I'm talking like, Brian Harmon almost killed me and Jake today,
trying to hit some sort of three wood hybrid thing on the ninth hole out of the rough.
And it got maybe six feet off the ground and just went into the rough on the other side of the fairway,
maybe 50 yards away.
And it was just like, yeah, we're going to be seeing a lot of that.
So it is brutal.
The greens are firm.
The greens are fast.
There's all that undulation on them.
There's all kinds of different pockets and knobs and humps.
It's just going to be hard.
I don't, everyone's saying that.
All the quotes are backing that up.
It's just going to be really difficult.
It's going to be.
I'm sorry,
Fairways, and I'm thinking now that we didn't fucking put it in the video,
I think there was a quote somewhere, somewhere.
I'm ready to go fucking slam Brendan's laptop against a wall or something.
I can't remember.
I'm just angry that I forgot this.
It may be in there.
It's 30 minutes.
fucking, they were telling me that the USGA,
I don't know if you're looking at a fairway,
and half of it's coming towards you and half bits going away,
the lines, some of it's dark or something, whatever,
that's all grain, that's where they mow it.
And the USDA likes all of their fairways mowed from T-box to green,
so that it actually, you don't get any sort of relief when that ball is rolling.
It's going to roll into the fairways.
It's basically like putting up with the grain, you know what I mean?
So that ball's going to go.
They've thought of everything to have these balls roll.
And I thought that was super interesting.
He's like, yeah, because when you look at U.S. Open, when you look at our
fairways on TV, it's just going to be one color fairway.
But like when you sometimes see these fairways, they'll have the jagged edges,
they'll have the lines.
It looks like Yankee Stadium outfield or whatever.
They mowed different ways.
Not this time.
See the green.
All the same way.
Also on top of that.
And I think the fairways are sneaky like undulated too where you hit it in the fairway and it
just takes a bad kick and goes into the rock, whatever the case is.
But so just as the fairways are mode from tea to green,
so it kind of rolls out and rolls through
and hopefully into the rough,
the rough is cut from green to tea.
So instead of it being matted this way,
it is like teeth.
So as the ball lands in,
it dives in rather than sitting on top.
Yeah, like a shark's teeth.
Like a shark's teeth.
Then they have a fluff team,
not to bring this back to penises and porn again,
but they have a fluff team.
They have a fluff team.
in which they go out there with fucking rakes,
but they're just raking the grass, the rough,
so that any part that's matted is now sticking straight up
and like an intertwined and gnarly
as opposed to had you walked or whatever,
or maybe you drove your cart for the maintenance team.
If the maintenance team drove their cart across the rough,
no, you're not going to see any cart tracks.
You're not going to see any tire tracks.
You're going to see everything completely fluff.
Tiger Woods said he compared it to lettuce.
He said the rough is not so much like rough,
but it's like lettuce that doesn't just goes every which way.
Dude, in our video, Steve drops a ball and just looks at the camera and laughs.
He's like, where'd that go?
He's right by his foot.
Where did that ball go?
It's, yeah, I think Patrick Reed was talking about that, actually,
in like the two minutes that I talked to about the different ways that they mow it
and how that's going to fuck with everyone.
So they have thought of everything.
They've thought of the, you know, making sure their tractors go in one direction
and how that's going to screw the players.
I think they're out for blood.
I think the USGA absolutely is out for blood.
I think our very good friends in the Wingfoot maintenance, course maintenance staff are out for blood.
I think everybody wants to see really high numbers.
Tiger Woods said that Wingfoot, Oakmont, and Karnusti are the three hardest golf courses he's ever seen,
that they could just host a major championship pretty much any time.
And the scores are going to be well protected because the courses are so difficult.
So we're going to get all of that.
Another thing that's really difficult is 2K.
Okay. We're trying to play the game. Trent's always tweeting out there about his tempo. We're trying to figure it out. I think in our little qualifier thing, like 82 one round, like one out of the out of us. So 2K is still going strong. The Varsal Golf Society where we have 70,000 members now.
70,000. I think it was 35. Prior to when I left my house today, it was 35,000 on Xbox, 33,000 on PlayStation and 3,000 on PC. We haven't added SWIFT. We haven't added SWIFT.
yet. I know people are fucking talking about Switch. I can't go out and buy a switch. I know Jake has a
switch. We're going to get it on Switch. It's just a matter literally setting the tournaments, keeping a schedule.
And we haven't missed a day, although I just missed yesterday. So we haven't missed a day of tournaments,
but then I added two today. So we kind of made that up. We've done a ton of tournaments. It's
fucking crazy. And we're actively working on making the world better. Right now the game's kind of
just bare bones. We are going to do everything that we can to make it a better experience.
2K is going to work with us.
We're working with 2K.
We're going to be working with all the fucking people that we need to work with.
This game is going to be better.
I want it to be better.
I want someone to be able to log on and dig.
I'm ranked X, whatever, in the Barstool Golf world.
And this is how many tournaments I've won.
This is how many coins I've won.
We've given out millions of coins.
I don't know what you can buy with them.
I think if you win one of our tournaments, you get to buy everything in the game, which is crazy.
Just like all the clubs, all the hats, all the fucking shoes, all the watches.
You know what might be the best.
part of this game. I mean, it's got great graphics. We got a great society. You got tons and tons of
golf courses you can play Frankie, Bill, Knives, Creek. You got, you have all these different features,
but the best part might be that 18 holes takes 25 minutes. It takes 25 minutes. You play some of these
other games. You get involved. You might be sitting there for an hour, an hour and a half before. The one
that you started at the beginning until the end, it just takes forever. But if you're looking for a game
that you just want to pop on and play 18 holes, it takes 25.
minutes. And if you want to play more, you can play more. If you want to play less, you can play less.
But it's a game that you can sort of casually play. If you want to play 18 holes,
and maybe I'll take it 35 minutes. You can go at your own pace. And that might be my
favorite part of the whole game because it's just, and I just play it nonstop.
So my favorite, sorry, my favorite part of the game trend is that it's hard. And that's
why I'm addicted to it. If I, if I master a game within the first week, it gets so boring.
Like, like, NHL. I've been playing the NHL forever. And it's fun, but like I just play
online games. I try and get my ranking up. I try and get my versus record up. I'll join like
the online team game, like whatever, the EASHL. It is, it's the same game every time I know how good
I have in HL, right? In the, in 2K, I, every time I turn on that controller and that Xbox, I am
trying to get better at that game because people in that game are so much better than me and we're
playing in the same tournaments. I can't get under par in one society event. And there's guys that
or 20 under, 22 under, 15 under.
I know people that, like, everyone's like,
all those guys are cheating, they're fucking,
they have modded controllers.
I know people that are friends of mine that are just shooting 18 under par.
Like, it's doable.
So that makes me want to go.
I want to get there.
How do I get there?
How do I read the putts better?
It gives you, like, it gives you what golf actually gives you,
which is every time when you turn on,
then you pick a course or you pick a tournament and you jump in,
that first tee, it's like, all right, Riggsziey,
fairways and greens, baby.
Yeah, exactly.
I turn on my Xbox and I just look at my controller and I say,
please let the tempo be there today.
Just let it be there.
Because I didn't practice things the other day.
I was so upset with myself and playing that damn game.
You get so frustrated after pulling the ball.
Or I can't put to save my life.
And actually, when you said time and like how long you play 18 holes in,
I'm pretty quick.
I just like kind of throw it into the general vicinity of where I think, you know,
I should put to in terms of like,
sure
winner that you put down and I'm wondering how long people analyze that because I mean I just
let them bleed out to the right every time I miss every putt sometimes I play the second event
of the society event and about nine holes in I'm like 32 over part I'm just like I've had enough
today no we just walk off the course but as as bad as the lows are the highs are even
incredible when you stripe a drive or when you got if you chip in or if you make a
long punt. It's like I am the best golfer in the world. In a video game world, maybe,
but at this very moment, I understand golf. So I'm wondering if this game has something,
because most rounds I shoot on our 9 to 11 over par, I think, is about where I kind of fall.
Every second round, first hole, I make birdie. Every time, I'll make bombs. The thing always goes in.
So I don't know if they're trying to build me up, but then on the fourth hall, I'll miss a four-footer
to save par, and then the round just falls by the waist side.
And I just, instead of throwing my controller, I just put it down, I turn it off.
I try to take a few deep breaths and I go to bed.
But then I'm like thinking about it as I'm sleeping.
I'm like, I'm not that on athletic.
I can't get it back and straight through.
And then I'm just doing the thumb and why is it leaking right every time in the
punch?
You just got to keep playing and you got to get better.
That's it.
Makes me insane.
It does drive you insane, just like golf, which is the beauty of it.
courses too all the different course options are going to make you i don't know it keeps you
interested you can just keep playing awesome golf courses and check them out and i mean we all love to
take like course tours right and now you get to just play the golf course in a very realistic
golf game so pjator 2k 21 that's what we're talking about go get it go join the barstow golf
society we're like yeah um if yeah it's got a crown and like a play if i um let's say you say
like something's inside baseball that's a term right just for general things
things like you're at the office like oh this is very inside baseball you're
talk does that work for when you're talking about golf someone asked me like oh like how
jacked up are you for this video I said oh man I'm really jacked up I'm like
honestly a lot of it's inside baseball but I think people enjoy that and they're like
inside baseball isn't about golf so could you say like inside golf like you can't
right like that's the right I said the correct thing my understanding of that what
I don't know what you would call it but is you can use it even if you're talking about
another sport because it's an agreed upon saying where something you're talking about the intricate
details that no one except the people inside the industry would care about but even if i think you're
referring to another sport i think you say inside baseball okay it is i just googled that inside baseball
meaning comes up as like an expert knowledge like insider knowledge i just typed in inside golf
meaning and just nothing it came up right just nothing was right so someone like that's that's how i would
explain some of the parts of this video that we just put
out on YouTube. It's like some of it's very inside baseball, but what is the golf term for that?
Like if you want to just say it like tongue and cheek, like I wanted to use that type of term.
I think inside golf works for sure. I mean, like, I love the video because the like, the,
like, whatever, the promo that you released last night is super like traumatic. Like somebody's
about to like die out there and like these guys are just working on it. It's like to keep laughing
that because you see like yeah the media the u.s.
Open's coming there this week and then you've got this like crazy like music
driving you're just cutting grass they're probably yeah dude it's
it's just on the roller and like the music's dropping it's turning it is a game of
throne's trailer for people cutting grass which is amazing bro fucking there's a part in the
video where gill hans actually says his name and it's like a mic drop moment and i'm like well he
just said his name. It's like, Gil has golf course architect, boom. And then it comes,
it's just like, no one's ever done that for Gil in his life. He's like been around forever doing
this stuff. Like no one's ever acted us though. Him saying his name was such a mic drop moment,
but we made it. The whole thing, it's almost like dodge ball, like the movie Dodgeball. Yeah.
Where it's like, we're making something so serious about something that like, don't get me wrong,
these guys' job, that's why we're doing it
and why you guys got up there
at 3 a.m. to document it because
it's really cool and there is important meaning
to it. But it's like,
it's not Game of Thrones that's going to
determine. It's not a rescue mission in Baghdad.
Like, we're not on a chopper going down
and like rescuing some fucking prisoners
of war. Like, we're fucking, we're
legitimately filming a couple of dudes at Wingfoot
in a very private club
at a golf course and they cut the grass.
But there's a lot of fucking signs to it and there's a lot.
I mean, we talk about it.
These guys all have degrees and they have fucking college debt and shit.
And this is their job.
And I think people don't know about it.
But yeah, very inside baseball.
I'm thinking of like jaws, the music and like, duh.
Like that music.
And then, you know, somebody getting closer to Wingfoot and that music speeding up like you're getting closer to the shark or whatever the case is.
It's like how I think about the video.
It's amazing.
It's absolutely amazing.
All right.
Speaking of Wingfoot.
A couple of facts about Wingfoot.
This is the sixth U.S.
Open.
to be hosted at the on the west course 7,477 yards.
It is a par 70, so that's extremely long for a par 70.
A.W. Tillinghouse opened in 1923.
The first U.S. Open was there in 1929.
This will be, this was an interesting stat to me,
this will be the 20th U.S. Open contested in the state of New York.
This will be what? I'm sorry.
Would you say?
20th, the 20th U.S.
Open contested in the state of New York.
I almost would have thought I was higher.
Really?
I mean not.
No, I guess that's a lot.
There's 50 states.
That's one-sixth of them.
Yeah, but like there's just so many, I mean,
I guess Shinnecock and Wingfoot and then Beth Page.
Yeah.
Is there another one?
What's up?
Is there another New York course besides those three?
Oh, there are several.
There are many.
The Garden City Golf Club did one in 1902.
I'll list them.
I'll list them.
Shinnecock Hills in 1896.
It's early.
Garden City Golf Club in 1902.
Nice to caddy there.
Thank you very much.
Country Club of Buffalo in 1912.
Wow.
Big Paul.
Inwood Country Club in 1923.
Wingfoot Golf Club in 1929.
Fresh Meadow Country Club in 1932.
Then there was a 24-year gap.
Oak Hill Country Club in 1956, Wingfoot again in 59, Oak Hill,
Hill, Hill, 68, Wingfoot, Wingfoot, Shinnecock, Oak Hill, Shinnecock, Beth Page,
and two, and then you've got Shinnecock, Wingfoot, Beth Page, Shinnecock.
So the last, you know, 60 years or so, it's pretty consistent to the ones that we do.
But early on, there were some in there that you wouldn't guess.
Very nice, very nice.
They got to go back to Buffalo.
Just go back to Buffalo.
Why not?
Buffalo being in there.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of that.
I agree.
I do think there's a lot of chatter that Wingfoot will be awarded the
night, or I'm sorry, the 2028 U.S. Open as well.
I think that they turned it down in 2015 because they're a private club that has its history already.
And they also, their east course gets beaten up, usually with all the fans.
The Westcores get beaten up when they actually host it.
don't love that they're in New England or they're in the Northeast at least and the weather's
not great all year round. So when you do get the nice weather and then the course is taken out of
commission, blah, blah, blah. But since there's no fans this year, the members actually all have
a great situation where they're all like volunteering and working. So they have these a plus
seats to watch the U.S. Open and the course is not going to get destroyed. So bringing it back
in eight years, I think that they're going to vote yes. And they want Wingfoot to be one of the kind of
ROTA courses for U.S. Open courses.
So I think there's a good chance it comes back in 2008.
I already said the Tiger quote, but he said, I'll reiterate,
in terms of sheer difficulty, he said these three courses could host major championships
without ever doing anything to them.
He said Wingfoot and Okma are either number one and number two
in terms of most difficult championship setups he's ever seen in his entire life,
which is awesome.
What's the third?
Karnusti.
Nice.
Nice.
I think JT said it's, I mean, they might have pulled this out of context.
I just saw it splashed on some Instagram, but like that he said it's the hardest course he's ever played this week at Wingfoot.
Yeah, he has said a lot, JT's been getting quoted a ton for all kinds of things he's saying this week.
But he did.
He says the hardest setup he's ever seen.
He said the viewers at home are going to see some pretty bizarre stuff and probably a lot of puts and chips that make us look pretty bad.
if you're into that stuff
and you're going to like this week,
we're into that stuff.
So.
I wonder, I saw that quote
and I wondered if like Jason Gore's phone started to ring.
I was,
but then if you look more of the JT's quotes,
he's like,
I love this.
I'm very much looking forward to.
I think it's going to be great.
But I think that one where he was like,
if you like us looking like idiots out of the rough or whatever,
I just saw Jason Gore's phone start to like vibrate.
And like he's,
I'm going to have to take care of this.
He's like, ah, I don't know.
whatever.
That phone just has no, that phone's connected to nothing.
It's like I'm thinking like a wireless phone that's supposed to be wired and he's just
like talking to knowing.
I haven't heard many complaints.
I haven't heard like any complaints.
Has Zach Johnson made it to town yet or is he, is he there?
Was he there today?
I haven't seen Zach Johnson.
I don't know that they allow him at these tournaments.
Zach Johnson.
He's there.
He's there.
He's there.
You better watch out.
He's jacked up because Big Ten football is coming back.
He's a big Iowa Hawkeye fan.
He's probably in about as good a mood as he can get,
and he's just going to go up there and probably light that course up, you know?
Just light it right up.
Maybe short, straight ball hitter, you know, who knows?
Could be a big week for ZJ this week.
Yeah.
People are saying, that's what a lot of people are saying.
Yeah.
Some people are saying that actually.
Yeah, I saw that.
Definitely.
I really think so, huh?
What are his odds?
Infinity to 1?
JT. have any other quotes that we want to get to?
I don't even see.
They didn't even list them.
That's where he likes to live.
I parked in a parking garage in New York City.
I told the guys I'd be back by two.
It's now 7 o'clock.
Where he thinks my car is?
Plus 16,000 this week for ZJ.
Value, baby.
That is value.
Plus what?
16,000.
So he's 160 to 1?
Yeah.
Wow.
No, 1600 to 1.
No.
Yes, you're right.
161.
I was the same.
He's one two majors.
He's not going to be.
Yeah, it's like 100 to 1.
Frankie, what do you think your car is?
I don't know.
It just hit me or I'm like, that's going to be tough.
But they're just, I mean, it's in the same spot.
It's just there's a bigger dollar figure next to you getting it out of there is the problem.
Oh, boy.
What's it been like running into these guys?
I know you had rigs.
I know you had a couple interactions with these guys.
It seems like, you know, what's that like?
So we're boys of Patrick Reed now.
Saw that. That was awesome.
That was great.
Patrick Green's...
That happened because of what's his name?
Like, how did that, like, interaction?
Yeah, tell us how you, because we obviously saw the three-minute interview,
but tell us everything leading up to it and how it happened.
Well, as people know, we're friends with Kessler Crane,
who is Patrick Reed's caddy.
We famously got a quote from him after an incident with a fan
at the President's Cup in Melbourne, Australia,
which you could argue then set in motion a string of events that really changed the face of golf media forever.
So we have a longstanding relationship with him.
Really, it's not that longstanding.
It's just since Australia.
Which feels like three years ago.
We went to dinner with him in Australia.
Pre-COVID world.
I mean, kind of a long time.
That's true.
And he's a great guy.
He's a really cool dude.
He likes Barstool.
He follows it a lot.
Wait, really quick.
Someone messaged me that day and they said, I can't believe he.
you went across the world to Australia and you got to put out like a one minute video.
And I was like, well, like just hold on.
We still have five videos coming.
So I wanted to get that out there.
Like we are just putting a pause on it because we have all US Open stuff right now.
So for all the people at home that want to see the Australia stuff, that stuff is coming.
And also we've made connections to make those videos so much better.
That's just a little teaser.
I'll say with that.
With the connections that we had at this one, making this one good for the video you just saw on
YouTube, we're going to make the video just as good for the Australia stuff. But that one made me
laugh out loud when I read that because I was like, you know what? Like to the outside world,
boy, oh boy, was that a waste of a trip. That's just as a long trip that, you know, we just haven't
really shown much of. But we have it. We have the stuff. It's just. I also think you might be
addicted to teasing videos, Frankie. You're just now, after yesterday went crazy, you're just like,
we got these videos. I pictured everyone on their hands and knees and I'm walking around just like
droplets of like of water everyone's just like they'll give me water and i just have a droplet and i'm just
like open your mouth and i just drip it in on your tongue and it keeps you alive until like
until like i put a fucking fucking a water over you at the end you're sick yeah you are you're
person too a really high degree kessler go on so kessler kreem patrick reed um i want to get into
how the entire patrick reed thing came about
