Fore Play - World Wars Are Bad & Mars Had Oceans

Episode Date: November 3, 2022

A few more slices of perspective pie on today’s show. World Wars are bad, and we applaud and thank our servicemen and women. And recognize those who have provided us the opportunity to live in our comfortable bubble. Scientists discover a billions-year-old ocean on Mars. Patrick Reed is suing journalists for hundreds of millions. Tiger’s “Frank” head covers have a great backstory. Superintendents, club pros, and caddies earn much discussion, and a new championship emerges.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I picture a conference room and they're all sitting there and Patrick Reed's wife is walking around, just seems walking around being like, add, add whipping boy into that. She's legitimately, she's sitting there like kind of with like her hand on her fucking chin. And every time he reads it out loud, she adds another word that she thinks will be like a fucking dig at them. It's so good. I'd like to begin the show by saying

Happy Birthday to both my mother, Gene, November 2nd, and to my sister Kate, November 5th. You guys listen to every show. Thank you very much for the support. Love you to death. Let's have a great show. I'll see you at Thanksgiving. Happy birthday.

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So when you hear the takes and the words coming out of our mouths, potentially differently, slower, less thought out, which is amazing than normal. I want you to know this is a pre 10 a. m. current moment, Eastern time. Um, so I want, I want you all to understand that. It's very early for you. I'd also like to make that clear.

People will hear 10 a.m. They'll be like, I was at the salt mines. It's 4 a.m. And, but Riggs is three hours behind. us. So it's, it's, you know, before 7 a.m. there. It isn't. It isn't because I sort of like at the beginning of the week, I just shift my schedule anyway, a little bit like Frank the tank, like sleep shifts. I like, I was in bed before 9 p.m. last night. I have texts from 9 p.m. that I didn't see that I woke up to this morning. So you kind of just shift everything. And the beauty of that is this time of year.

We don't do daylight savings time here in Arizona for whatever, whatever reason. But we're three hours behind right now. So if we get this fucking podcast, we get this fucking podcast. I mean by 8, 830 local time, I'm done for the week. I got nothing to do. That's right. That's right. Playing golf this afternoon. I saw,

I saw you posting that it was 78 degrees. Is right now just like perfect Arizona conditions? I'm probably another week or two away from being able to play golf. Really? Yeah. I went out and I went, it is prime. It's perfect weather right now. Perfect.

It's just going to be like that until like April. But I went out Monday and I chipped and putted because I just got the itch. I couldn't help it. You can, I can move. I'm fucking mobile. I can move around with the ankle. And then I, like, meandered my way over to the driving range. And I took a couple wedge hacks and they were pretty good.

The only issue was like when you turn at the end, when you're right, because it's my right foot, starts to turn because it was the outside of my ankle that I fucked up. I got a couple twidges. So I actually did like unintentionally, I swear, like almost the tiger thing. I was going to say, you should post a video of you hitting a down. Kind of going down. Yeah. You should hit a swing video where it says making progress. And then that's not a bad idea.

And then I started to get, you know, it gets looser. You get blood flowing a little bit, which we're going to come to. And it starts to get looser. And I started hit eight irons. I hit a few drivers. And it was fine. And I was like, I can play golf. That's great.

And then I didn't go out and actually play. It was like evening, whatever, went back. And then I woke up yesterday morning. And I, I mean, I couldn't move my foot. And I saw a few people because we had posted the podcast yesterday. And I talked about the ankle. And a few people were like, hey, I'm a nurse. And like, whatever you do.

don't play golf, you will regret it dramatically. And I was like, oh, yeah. And then I woke up, like, I don't know, I've never had that before because it was pretty much the, you know, like the right side, the top of your foot. That's sort of like where the issue is because I rolled it, you know, to the to the outside, basically. I, I guess I rolled my foot towards the inside, but the outside muscles got sprained, torn, whatever. Well, now, for whatever reason, the two muscles or the two parts of the back of your heel that like, um, surround your Achilles tendon are like violently sore to the point where if I stretch where I like point my toes up, that back part there is like in excruciating pain. It's not as bad today. I elevated it yesterday. I'm starting to get to you.

You get into fucking like, uh, uh, rehab like Twitter is just like drummer Twitter or golf Twitter where people are like, oh, you don't know that ice is out now. Like ice actually. research has shown that icing stuff actually like, uh, uh, hinders the healing process. And I'm like, we're out on icing your fucking, you're spraying ankle now. So I'm getting all kinds of mixed signals. I think the point is to try to try to stay off it for extended periods of time and rest and elevate it. And then also when you're not staying off it, like give it a little bit of, uh, get it, get it, get it, get it. I think like, I'm always of that school of thought of like, you know, if I have bad like a skin rash or like I had poison oak or something, get it out in the sun.

Like let that shit fucking air out and like get it out there. So I'm trying to mix it up. Long story short, I don't know that I'm going to be playing golf for a little bit because it, I think it sets you back like one week every time you go play golf. So I got to be pretty careful about it. Is this your first sprained ankle ever? Is that not really a hockey injury because the skates kind of give you support? Yeah, it's not really a hockey injury. Yeah, exactly because that reason.

I feel like your your ankles and your. all the way up to like your shins are sort of one because you tie your skates really tight. You know, if you're, if you in any way could sprain your ankle in hockey, it would either be going like crashing into the boards, which is what happened to Cindy Crosby. He had like a high ankle sprained for a couple years that he suffered from. Or you're a total bender. And the term bender comes from ankle bender, which is literally you're out there skating and your ankles are like wobbling around. That's a term for like you're a bender. So if you're in like in the corner fucking trash talking like shoving your gloves in somebody's you'd call somebody a bender. So bender's bad.

You don't want to have lose ankles. Your ankles bend out there. You basically are a noob if you're playing call duty. Yeah. When I was out there, when we've done, what was the hockey video that we did? Was that a hair video? The one. Yeah, yeah.

In Minnesota hockey. In Central Park, I believe. And a lot of the responses that I got was bender because I, my ankles were in when I was out there. And I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. And I got, you know, I got pretty sturdy ankles. I've never twisted an ankle in my life. But when I'm on skates, apparently.

I bend in and I just got called a bender. And I thought it was a good thing at first until it was made clear to me that it is most certainly not. Yeah, it's not. It's like sprained ankle, I feel like again, in hockey is not as common, you know, football, basketball. Like you're kind of turning and twisting on your ankles a lot. Hockey, like you said, it's almost your skates are so encompassing on your foot all the way

up through your ankles that they kind of almost act like a brace and they don't move at time. Not that it never happens, but I've never had a fucking spray ankle. A lot more knees. You get knees in hockey. You get a lot more upper body stuff because that's obviously where people collide is more upper body where like football you're diving at people's legs hockey. You're not diving anybody's legs. You're kind of like hitting them shoulder to shoulder.

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out. We need a Thursday night. Islanders are the worst team in the league right now. Four game winning streak. They were. Four game winning streak. The Islanders have went in. They shut out the Rangers.

Then they went to Carolina and beat them. Then they scored five on answered against the Colorado Avalanche. Then they go out to Chicago, who all I see is this guy, Barstool Chief, saying how hard of a team they are to play and how fun they are and how the Chicago Blackhawks are a fun team. He drinks his bourbon while watching them. You say fun team. That's your way of saying your team's like not really good.

Dude, also he. Detroit Lions. Listen, fun team. Whenever I'm facing another. Barstle personality, like what my team's facing them, I mute them that morning. So I did not see any of Chief's tweets until I got tagged into them a million times because it's an all-out war and I don't want them to know it. I probably just gave out my card.

Like I just ignore the opposing team. It's surprising to me because you're fueled so much by hating the other time. Well, if you see my tweets, they're all just like, they're just like daggers at Chief. And like, I don't tag them or anything. They're just like, it's a fun team. Because he said the Islanders are the least fun organization to root for in all of sports. They're very boring system. They played just defense.

They're one star left them. New Jersey Devils from the late 90s. They're one star left them for the last 30 years. He left during free agency. And then when they're good, they're just not good enough. But then that last point just drove me crazy because you can't say that they're, they play a boring style and they're never good. And then at the end say, when they're good, they're not good enough. Like that when they're good is like when they're fun.

Like so I think that third bullet ruins everything else. He said, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know it's shot. That year that they, the back-to-back years they made at East and Carvis finals, you can't just like be like, oh yeah, those two years that they were unbelievably good in Borrellas had a thousand people inside and like they were scoring goals like crazy and beating the Bruins and beating the Penguins.

Like they weren't good enough to win the cup. So like they're usually boring. It's like you just skipped over two years of our lives. It's like half the years that you've been here. It's insane. Yeah. Let's go blues tonight. That's kind of the main.

Where's the game? That's in St. Louis. It's in St. Louis. Island is coming off. Four wins. Hopefully Sorokin's back in net.

The guy's unbelievable. Brock Nelson scoring every single game now. Ever since Trent's really, really hopped on the way. And he's starting to watch every game now. Trent, I feel like hasn't seen a loss. I mean, honestly. Yeah.

So I watched last night's game because I do want to get more into it. Like I before I was just going to whatever game we went to and then I would check the scores, but I wouldn't watch the games. And then I watched game last night. And I, you know, it was on one of the TVs here. So I was kind of going back and forth between the World Series and all, everything that was going on.

But yeah, Brock Nelson's on fire. I started watching. They won and it felt great. I think, yeah, I think they look great. As, you know, I'm a great hockey mind. So I know what I'm looking at when I see it. And when I watch this, I watch this Islander's team play, I'm like, boy, they just got it. You know, hard to play against.

Really hard. I mean, the blues have given up five goals, seven goals, six goals. So it's like, you know, we just need to probably stop the other team from fucking score. It feels like it feels like tough to win games like that. Not to pile up every, not to. pile up everybody's Thursday, because that game's Thursday, right? We've got a new... Is that game Thursday or tonight?

That's Thursday. Thursday? And we've got a dozen matches, I believe, is coming out on Thursday as well, our first one of the season. And, which was a lot of fun. And I think we have an episode of the Scotland travel series coming out on Thursday. Yeah, today. Now, is that coming out during the day or at night?

That's something that we have to get an answer on right now. Right now, Alex Bush, we need an answer on when that video is actually releasing because if it's releasing during the day, we'll be able to say that. Right. Moment, Bush, you fucking idiot. Don't mess it up. I believe we're doing that night again for this one, just like a normal 8 p.m. unless we change.

See that. I don't like that that started with a I believe and not a we all. Is it going to be 8 p.m.? Is it going to be 7 p.m.? Well, we do up Thursday night football. Right. So now you're saying a lot of things that I was talking about. God damn it.

Yeah, this is, you know, you have this conversation. That didn't sound like a definitive answer there is kind of what that. I think that's what Frankie was looking for, Bush. My vote would be, and we're having a live meeting again. Oh, we're voting. We don't have to vote. It doesn't matter. Six or seven would probably be best.

We could vote. Oh, yeah. Thursday night football. Does Thursday night football really take that many people away from two-screen viewing? You know what I mean? Well, yeah, they're already streaming it, right? They're already streaming. It's how cocky of us to think that like we legitimately go up against Thursday night football at that.

I don't know that it really makes that big of a difference. I don't know. Eagles versus the Texan. That's us versus the shield today. What's the game, Frank? The Eagles versus the Texans. It's a 14 point favorite. That's going to be a blowout.

It's just like the worst game of the year. Meanwhile, you got Trent and Riggs against Lurch and Frankie, which is a pickle. I just think it's a lot to ask of people to like, like if you are going to get the people that are watching Thursday night football to sit there and watch an hour and a half golf video, then go straight into the football.

It's like, why not just give them the opportunity to do both at the same time? I think that's what a lot of people do anyway. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. I think you're a normal human being. You're watching like one of them on either phone, laptop,

iPad, second screen. You're watching it on two TVs. You're not like, I mean, it's 2022. If you have one screen, I mean,

you have food stamps. Right. It's also, it's like you're asking someone at that point. To donate. You're asking someone to donate three hours, four hours, five hours to sports viewing.

I'll talk of one screen. If you have one access to one glass. glass screen. You know what I'm saying? Like we all have access to multiple screens, whether they'd be anything, you know what I'm saying? Android, it could be an iPhone. It could be anything.

You can watch this video while football goes on. I don't think it's possible. I really don't think that many people that watch our videos have one screen accessible to them. How about this also? Well, let's put a call to action. If you're going to be watching football and you're going to be mainly paying attention to football,

just throw on the Scotland video, even if you're not paying attention to it. Just throw it on. It's just so good. That's why it is a good. It is good. We're making such a point to watch this one because I feel like we lost a little bit of steam from the fact that we had to put out both of the Scramble videos because it was hockey opening night. And then we also had to put out the breaking 90s.

And we've had a lot of stuff that had to get out. Now we're back into the swing of things with Scotland series. It's been like three or four weeks since the last episode. So you're going to have to get back into like the fact that we were there and all the storylines and the matches. But it's so good. This place, Crail Golfing Society. I got tweets and DMs about it being people's number one bucketless golf course. course from people in UK. I got a message from a guy from Ireland saying like everyone talks about

this place, Kral, that you have to get there. Like you can't believe it's even a real place. 1786. The whole entire deal. The fact that it's called a golfing society is unbelievable. They have all these cobblestone walls going down the fairways. It's old school Scotland shit. Right on the water too. So cool. You have to watch it. I do remember Trotty being like, uh, I was like, yeah, golfing society. Was that like a pretty common term? He's like, that shit. They just do that for marketing now. first five holes at Crail are. It's just right on the water.

It's just a T-box water and a flagstick. Windy. Motherfunk of day that we had at Crail. So, yeah, that's on YouTube. And then we got shoes. We got new G4 shoes coming out. Transfusion. We've been working on these puppies for over a year.

So they got to make them. They got to ship them. Literally, this is one of those things we talk about where we're tracking them as they're on a giant vessel going through the ocean. Is there a storm that's going to affect when they come in. That's what it takes to get these puppies in. We got the MG4 squared, which are the more street cross trainer. You wear them to the gym. You can wear them like golf out on the town. You can wear them to work. You can wear them around the house, cotton grass, whatever fuck you want.

And then we got the galavantors, which I got behind me, which are obviously the more classy, traditional look that G4 does while also being extremely comfortable. Oh, yeah. So we got both of these storedoparsalsports.com. Go check these puppies out. I think. they're going to be available in retail too. So if you've got a local PGA Tour Superstore, golf galaxy, that kind of place. We love PGA Tour Superstore. They're very good to us. Go in there, check these puppies out because we got cool new shoes. If you're looking at them on YouTube, you probably already bought two pair because they're that fucking hot. I feel like my scoring average goes down like one or two shots when I wear the Galaventers just because when I'm

wearing them, I feel like I'm on the PGA tour. They are, they're PGA tour shoes. The Galavantors are like pants and class and you're right you're like when you're putting you kind of look at yourself you can look down and be like whoa this yeah I should make this everything's a line everything's nice and tight and classy and comfortable and traditional so yeah I agree and then they say 19th hole on the back I did laugh that somebody tweeted I buzz these yesterday a little like unboxing mini unboxing and the other one says hole on the back of it this shoe says 19 but the one that I started with just said hole and somebody responded I thought oh I thought when you dropped the other one it was going to say mass on it which would have been pretty good if we came out with mass hole shoes but it says 19th hole so um so yeah

go check yeah the mg4x squares are just built for comfort yeah the other one so it depends on whatever you want what kind of lane you you fall in i know Trent and i love those mg4x squares because in Scotland it saved our feet skate it saved our knees everything about it was just like pure comfort we were walking on hard pan grass the entire time and obviously the Galaventers are also built for comfort because they have that iconic G4 bubble insert where when you're standing on it, it feels like you're standing on a cloud. I don't know how that they have, I guess they have a trademark for that stuff. No one's ever copied them. The inside of a G4 shoe, whenever you talk to anybody that talks about G4, they talk about the inside soul. You can talk about

the outside. You can talk about the looks, the colorways, the whole deal, the customization that we did with the transfusion collaboration. It's about the insert. That's what you're paying the money for. is what your foot feels like when you put one on. You're like laughing out loud. You're talking to your friends being like, you can't believe. I've taken my shoe off and told people to put it on just to feel it. And I've never done that with a shoe in my entire life. They're the best shoes on the market.

I gave them to my dad to try them on. And his first reaction when he put them on was, ooh. My dad was like, can I get this insert for my shoes at like the restaurant? Like my body just feels better. And I'm not even just saying that just to sell shoes. I genuinely think it's the best shoe in the market. All G4 shoes, the way that they do. that. Store at barcelesports.com, go check them out. Um, big news in the golf world.

Scientists find giant ocean evidence on Mars. Yeah. Yeah. You see this, Frank? I didn't see it, but that doesn't surprise me. Using topography data, researchers have found clear evidence of a 3.5 billion year old shoreline around 900 meters thick, which covered thousands of square kilometers on Mars. The findings, quote, point to a higher potential for life on Mars. The findings, quote, point to a higher potential for life on Mars than previously thought. Scientists use maps to find traces of an ocean in the north of the planet. These maps provide the strongest evidence yet that the planet once experienced sea level rises consistent with a warm and wet climate rather than the harsh frozen landscape that exists today, aka it used to be much more similar to planet Earth.

Yeah, they had a nuclear holocaust like fucking two billion years ago. They just fucking nuked each other and they lost their atmosphere and now comets hit them throughout the last billions of years and it's just over right it's just like a complete barren wasteland they have no atmosphere comets hit them all the time they're not able to fucking sustain life anymore because they've just ruined their atmosphere from all this stuff that's gotten out there over the last billions of years and they can't that it is what it is they definitely used to be Mars used to be an oasis an absolute fluid oasis with with little things swimming through the rivers and the streams. What's the, what's the update on trying to recolonize?

I know Elon's got, you know, so a lot of things on his plate now with Twitter, but wasn't that one of his original things was trying to recolonize ours? Yeah, I think one of the big issues is obviously no atmosphere. They have no atmosphere, then you can't contain anything in there that will then, just no atmosphere that will then foster life and growth and regeneration. And so I believe that's one of his. great issues. I don't know if they're going to try to, like, manufacture an atmosphere or I don't know if

they're going to try to create something that's not going to need it. But he is of the belief, according to his interviews that I've seen, that we're going to have to get the fuck off Earth at some point. And if we're not ready for it, we're going to get fucked just like the dinosaurs got fucked. Just like potentially, this new finding, whoever used to live upon Mars got fucked. How crazy is it that we're all like, oh, is there a life in the universe? Who knows?

And it's just like our next door neighbor, the closest. thing to us outside of the moon. They're like, yeah, there were oceans. It's starting to get a little more likely that there was life right there. Right there. Yeah, it's out. It's as clear as day. You know what I mean?

It's as clear as day that there's stuff going on out there. Every day now, since we started talking about space and Mars and all these things, for the past couple of years, ever since I really started bringing it up, I get tagged in that same video where it just shows exactly how many, you know, what they think, the, the universe looks like where it's just that pana i think it starts in like carlsbad california it's just like a google images thing and then it just zooms out and just keeps going and going and going it's one of the craziest things of all time and you just sit there being like what's happening like obviously there's a billion earths out there maybe a trillion

maybe a trillion different places and trillions of earths out there yeah it's hard to wrap your head around it is this show is sponsored by better help Unfortunately, life does not come with a user manual. So when it's not working for you, it's very, very normal to feel stuck. We all get there all the time very frequently. It's not just you. You're not alone. Navigating any of life's challenges can make you feel unsure whether it's a career change,

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tours in Bermuda. I've been in the Bermuda tournament a couple times. Bermuda people were nice. They're fantastic. But Bermuda is an island. Any island is going to be weird by nature. It's just fucking, you know, it's just a little different. It's the Bermuda tournament.

So it's like you're not, it's the Bermuda tournament. Great. It is what it is. Fall. People are out there drinking rum. They love rum. We used to do the goslings deal all the time out there. Yeah.

So we would go there for that puppy and have dark and stormies. Be like the one time of the year, I would just drink from the second you landed until you left. Just rum, rum, rum, rum, rum. And then the whole next rest of the year, just don't drink rum at all. So Seamus Power got the W. Ben Griffin, rookie, who, you know, they're playing up the whole deal about how he was like a fucking loan officer for a little bit because he gave up the dream. Collapsed on the back nine, but was still positive about the whole thing. I think he had a two-shot lead on like the 12th T and then finished six over on the last like six holes or seven holes or whatever it was, which is a damn tough break.

But, but anyways, PJ Tour, that's what happened on the PJ Tour. Yeah, Seamus Power was the only top 50 player in the field and he got the win, which I think is, that's a sick move. I love that. I love when you, when you are the John Deere Classic. Yeah, it's like when you are the best player in the field and you go there and you win, I think that's awesome. And in the Monday morning read, I said that that's going to be from here on out known as a power move. And it's happened a few times in the last year. John Rom did it in Mexico at the Vodonto Open. I think Tony Fienau did it at the 3M. I just like that. I like going in there because it doesn't happen. very often. Obviously, if you're the number one player in the world, it doesn't really apply to you. But if you're like, you know what, I know that I'm the best player here and it, the field's not great, but I'm the best player. And then you go out and win the tournament, that's power move. So shout out to Seamus Power. Two wins now. Good chance of making the Ryder Cup team.

We're going to see a very, very different Rider Cup team, obviously, given the situation with Liv. So guys like Seamus Power, guys like Scep Straca, some of these guys who are like U.S.-based and come up through the PGA tour and aren't really European tour-based guys, a lot of these guys are going get a really good chance to make the team because the poultry and the Casey's and the Westwoods, they're all out. What do they call it when there's a presidential campaign going on and the networks have to give equal time to each candidate? I know what you're talking about.

I don't recall that that can't be true though because like, I mean, the national networks were just hammering Trump, like Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I think there's something about not even like, not even. like talking about them, but having them talk on the network. Like I remember when Trump was going to host SNL and they were like, oh, you got to make sure, you know, the other candidate gets their time. I forget what it's called. I think there's a term for it. The reason I brought it up, I was just thinking about, you know, our live and PJ tour discussions, like how I wonder what the balance is. Like in the last year, it's probably been pretty heavy live. The Equal Opportunity Section 315

of the Communications Act of 1934 attempts to further, Amendment freedoms by providing that broadcast licenses must permit equal use of broadcast facilities to all legally qualified candidates for political office and that the broadcast licensee may not censor the candidates messages. So I do believe this is to the Trump point. I think it's, um, it sounds like it's only like sold air time. So it's like you can't like if, you know, like Trump was saying they're media all the time. There wouldn't be like a Fox News versus CNN thing. if that was the case. I want to say that got like repealed or something like that that then allowed with Fox News and all that came up because yeah, they're not doing equal time. I know that.

No. No, neither of them. No, you're not seeing Trump sitting on MSNBC tomorrow. That's definitely not happening. That law is also from 1934. So things have changed quite a bit since then I remember it being in the news. And then we don't this is not the direction I necessarily wanted us to go. I was just saying that we talk about live a lot. We talk about the PJ tour a decent amount. I was just wondering what the breakdown would be. But I remember there being something about this when one of the candidates, I believe it was Trump, was going to host S&L. And they were like, well, then you got to give other people an opportunity because of this specific law. I believe the law has been changed a bunch. Speaking to that point with the elections coming up, I hadn't lived in a state that's closer to a swing state in a long time. I mean, Arizona is not

necessarily considered. You got to be bombarded a swing state. But it. in 2020, it went Democratic for the first time in a while in the presidential election. And like the first, I guess, three or four or five times before that I went Republican. But like, yeah, it is when you drive by, when you drive down the road, it's sign after sign. And I mean, they are vicious signs. And it's like the one I'm seeing is like so and so voted for 85,000 new IRS agents. And I'm like, well, yeah, fuck that guy. It's like, all right.

Okay. Not even listen to the radio. you're just like, I'm going to sign watch today. Yeah, no, like the ones in New York. I get phone calls all the time. It's crazy. The only ones I see in New York are like, this district attorney voted to put a thousand murderers back on the streets.

Oh, yeah. You're like, oh. There's one ad, a New York one that's really corny that's running. I honestly don't even know which side of the aisle it is, but it's a guy talking about a rotten tomato. And he's like, this is like this congressman. And this new guy is like a fresh tomato with all these beautiful,

you know, opinions. And it's, it's attack ads. There's some, if you want to go down a YouTube rabbit hole, just look at like best attack ads of all time politically. And they're just, they're insane on both sides. It's insanity. I feel like the 3 a.m. The 3 a.m. call was a big one. Remember that one with Hillary Clinton where it was like, I think it was Hillary Clinton. Maybe. Oh, yeah. Where it was like, you got to call at 3M that there's a nuclear missile coming our way. Like, do you want this person in in the Oval Office? Yeah, it was, it was an extremely scary one. Yeah, it was like, oh, God.

It was, it was like your child is sleeping. The phone rings at 3 a.m. It's like a nuclear attack. Who do you want to answer in the phone? You're like, oh, fuck. We're under attack. Yeah, no. It's everywhere around here.

And then it's, I was, it's nuts to think about as soon as this shit's over. In like a couple months, we'll just start having people announce their candidacy for president of the United States for 2024. So it's just going to be happy. pretty quickly. I actually was thinking about, remember last year when I pitched a bunch of segments to you guys? Yeah. I got a new segment idea and I was I was going to, I was going to have it ready for this show, but I decided not to. But the idea is called the topic wheel. And I was going to have, so it's like a wheel fortune kind of thing, or not even wheel fortune, wheel of a more like Price's

right wheel where you kind of like, so if you were up, let's say Trent was up. I was going to have a wheel that's say 12 topics. Okay. And you spin the wheel and whatever your topic, your wheel lands on, you have to give your take. And I was going to have, you know, Phil's performance on Live. And I was going to have Tiger Woods chances at the Masters. And I was going to throw in like gun violence in like the young African American community

and just throw a wheel. And like you could get anything. And was it like Coney? Remember that? Coney 2012. Wow, I donated. What a fucking sheep I am. Against Coney.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. That was, I mean, dude, the, like the height. That was probably the first thing I ever got swindled into in my life. I was in 11th grade, I think it was. And I was just like, I'm going to change the world today. I'm going to, I'm going to set up my PayPal account. I'm going to pay 20 bucks.

And they're going to stop this guy from wrangling up these children, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, wild armies and going in and slaughtering all these people. And then that guy just took all the money and ran. That guy, I'm pretty sure. It's a couple of years ago. He, am I thinking of the same? Was it Coney? The guy who stripped naked and was running through the streets of Los Angeles.

Was it him? He went crazy and he was just like pounding on car hoods. And people are like, I don't know what he did with that Coney money, but I don't think he did the right thing. This is your guy, Frankie? Yeah, I got a little key fob and I got a, uh, well, listen, if you want to talk about getting swindled like that's a mainstream one that that oh my god that cony 2012 like hundreds of millions yeah it was like they were one of the first like viral marketing campaign yes they were hoping it would

get two million views it had 25 million views in an hour like yeah i was like you know 17 years old probably scouring the internet for some big titties or something and all of a sudden i'm seeing like genocide happening in africa i'm like what's going on over here they they just threw it right in your face it was every single ad was this fucking video and you had to donate You absolutely had to. You had to change the world. Yeah. I like the wheel.

I like the wheel. I like the wheel. I thought it could throw a little spice in there, you know. I like the wheel. I like the wheel. It's a good offseason idea. I can get us talking about things. Yeah, I'm going to get a topic wheel made up.

And then I think I'm going to get each, each sort of laying on the wheel or each piece of the pie that's like dry erase. So I could write different topic on there. I'll have it back here. We'll spin the wheel. I'll get a little interactive. And then that person has to give their take. we'll have a little discussion. You could do it digitally also that our resident nerd Alex could make it a box here on the Zoom and then you could don't hate to have it. My plan was if I was going to have it ready today. I was going to pull one up on the iPad. I figured you could have to be able to Google like a wheel and you can put it on there. You can customize it and shit. Alex can figure that shit out. You can figure it out. Alex. Fucking do something. Jesus. Yeah. So I just a follow up on the on the cony guy. It said TMZ obtained the blurry video of Russell's Moutdown which shows the 33 year old human rights.

rights active active uh completely naked and engaging and puzzling behavior shouting expletives clapping to himself making sexual gestures and pacing feverishly up and down the street so that's where your money went for yeah it might have been some drugs some drug us involved there just i would imagine definitely chance yeah yeah definitely chance no one else here donate occurred i can't remember i don't believe i did i don't think i did i don't think i did i don't think i like was willing to go through the process of setting up whatever you know it was a PayPal account digital transaction. I think that was the first time I ever set that up.

It used to be harder, right, to like to like just pay for shit digitally. Now it's so easy. It's just I don't know when PayPal came up. I remember that being like. You double click on the side of your phone and pay for anything. I remember PayPal being like the most revolutionary thing of all time because you didn't have to put in your credit card information anymore. It was just you signed in with this email and I just happened to remember the password all the

time and it was like the greatest thing of all time. And it has to be at least 10. Is PayPal? Elon? Yep. That's Elon? Yeah, it's amazing. I still use PayPal.

They're making paying frighteningly easy. On the subway now, you don't even have to, like, do the thing where you pull up your Apple pay. You literally just hold your phone on the thing and it pays for it. Dude, when I went to the Turkish bathhouse with Tommy and Nick, you had to unlock the phone. I hadn't been, I don't have it ridden the subway in so long that I didn't even know that it had switched from, you don't even have to have a card. Dude, you just have to have your phone, you go boom, and you walk right through. That happened to me the other day at the grocery store. I didn't have my.

wallet on me and I was so embarrassed. I'm like, holy shit. Like, I'm standing there. It's in my car. I'm like, what the fuck? Because I've been sitting on my wallet when I drive. I'm like, I got to stop that. So I have it in the little coffee holder,

even though the chiropractor says it doesn't do anything. Well, you scared us last year to think we're all going to have severe spinal issues because we keep our wallet in our back pocket. I still think that there's validity to that. I still take it out. When I'm in the car, I take it out of it. Feels a wallet back pocket. It feels better to not have anything in your back pocket.

I'd say the majority of people do. Yeah, don't come at us with that tone. Well, that's interesting, though, because I feel like it's easier to get... You're going to get bullied on the internet now. I just feel like it's... It's easier to get stolen that way out of the back pocket. Yeah, who cares? I don't know.

I don't know what that's stolen. Pretty 35 years into this thing. It's all about like, comfortability for me. Yeah, it's always... Where do you keep yours from left? It's all about my father, right? Everybody wants to do what their dad did. So it's like my whole life.

I keep it in my back pocket, but then when I sit, I either take it out and like I'll put it in like the cup holder or I'll just throw it in my... front pocket if I'm going to sit for a long time. But I don't remember. Oh, and yeah, I just didn't like, and I thought, I'm like, all right, what are you going to do? You're going to run for the fucking doors or what? Like, what is your decision here that you don't have your wallet at the grocery store?

You have, like, hundreds of dollars with the groceries for the whole week. What are you about to do? And I remembered I have Apple pay on my iPhone and I legitimately just went up to that little scanner. I went, boom. And it just paid for everything. And I left. I was like, that was very futuristic to me.

That was almost Apple pay on a regular basis. I don't use Apple Pay like that. I always use Apple Pay digitally. I very rarely, and only in certain instances have I remembered that I can actually scan it on those. Because all those scanners look so old and like dated, but then they still have that, they still have that ability to do it. Dude, I think if you make the full switch, you're, I mean, we're talking about milliseconds because you just have to pull out your card, but you can just go bang.

I do it everywhere now. I don't use my debit card almost ever. I'm just, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's the future. We, boom. Speaking of wallets, we, boom. We, uh, I, I, uh, I, uh, spent a hockey season with this family in Chicago, the Samson's and it was so I could play for a much better, uh, hockey team.

I was like probably 15, 16 years old. And the father of that family, Roger Sampson, um, loved dinner. We would go out to dinners all the time. Nice steak houses, all this. He would always sit at the head of the table. And as soon as we got there, he would sit down, pull his wallet out of his pocket and just set it right in front of him. And he just wouldn't move like,

two and a half hours and he would just command the dinner table. So I always think about that with the wallet of just as soon as he sits down. This is my spot. I'm not going anywhere. He would sit there for hours. And that's what I always think about with the wallet. But I do think it comes from doing, in terms of which pockets and all that. I think it comes from like, for me, it comes from whatever your, wherever your dad would put it, basically. That's like I'm front left with the keys. And then so the keys don't scratch my phone because I've had that issue a lot. And then I go front right with the phone. I've actually last two. two or three years, I've switched to,

I keep my wall in my back left, so if you want to rob me, there you go. And my phone in my back right, which has changed my life. So you got nothing in the front pocket. I have, I sometimes keep my keys in my front left. He doesn't like the photos of himself, right?

Is that what, is that what originally came from? That you didn't like the photos in your, like the big phone was in your front pocket. I feel like that's where you made the change. Maybe. I don't know. I would get amazing shots of Trent.

like sunset in the background. He'd be like in a cocked like power position for a golf swing. And then he'd be like, God, that phone is just covering my whole leg. It's all you see his phone. And I remember you being like, I'm throwing that thing in the back pocket from now. I think we're at Torrey Pines. No, I think we were. I honestly, you know where I think we were at Quaker Ridge.

Hey, shout out. Oh, that's right. And I had a huge phone. I don't know if that's the, I don't know if that's the edit it out. I was like, I did. We edited it. it out. How did you guys play quake? Like, well, how did that come to be?

Super. Oh, are we not allowed on your fucking golf course? What the hell of them? What kind of tone was that? We just got invited. People fucking wanted us to play. It's just a question. I was just going to ask you. I know, I know. We just fucking played. Like, I don't know. We just fucking played. The answer is we know that this guy Luke, who's a super out of Rockville, knows the super at Quaker. That's the answer. I'm not going to jump down your throat. I, I think, I don't know what the original reason was. for the phone in the back pocket, but it changed my life. And I know people were thinking, it was that day. Probably.

And people are thinking, oh, you probably sit on your phone a lot. And sometimes I do. But it doesn't, phones aren't, you know, they're not, they're almost indestructible. So by the way, speaking, speaking of Luke and like, and super's and getting on golf courses, there's no better person in all of golf in the whole golf industry to know than the superintendent. That's a guarantee in my book is that it's, he's a better connect than the pro. He's a better connect than like the country club like president because I just think that they have this community of guys that all work at the top golf courses in their area and they have whatever access

they want because it's their fucking golf course. They built this place. They're able to maintain it. They live on it. They're there from fucking 5 a.m. until 9 p.m. every single day. If they want someone to go play their golf course, they can have someone go play their golf course.

Same thing. I mean, Rockville Links. They are the most accommodating people of all time. Luke's like, whatever you need. Where else you want to go? You want to go here? I got this guy here. I went to school with this guy in Michigan State.

I went to this guy. Oh, are you guys going upstate? I got this guy at Turning Stone. It's crazy. Their connections. It's insane. Michigan State, the Super at Quaker went to Michigan State. I think it's a very, very small community, which is interesting because it's actually

it's a very good job. Like it's, it pays well. Northeast pays well. I know we had that one show where we had a bunch of guys on. And the one guy from fucking Arizona was just complaining about water. Remember that guy? Oh, yeah. And he's like, I make no fucking money in their trinetic.

So, like, I do think like in the Northeast, they, it's a very, very, very good job. I think they get paid very handsomely. But across the country, I do think that they're underpaid for the amount of work they do put in. Because there's these low budget country clubs and golf courses, specifically public courses, where these guys are fucking putting in double the work with less equipment, no workers and they get no money. It's fucking crazy. Right. But up here, it's like a very, very tightening community.

Oh my God, so much money. They look after each other. They got the secret handshake the whole thing. Super's are, they're the plug. They're the golf plug. They really are. Yeah, I'm out on pros. I am.

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That's why I'm actually taking this. I'm going to actually learn about it. Hopefully, I would assume I'm on the lower side just because I'm more tired. I'm more frail. A lot of my, like, you know, I'm always getting injured. So my bones are weaker. So I do think that I could use some sort of supplement to boost my testosterone. I have very feminine features.

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up yeah that's what the super was talking about when we had them on there there's some legislation that is only allowing them to live there dude you're not that that's not a livable like you're not supposed to have a civilization in the desert so like it's all not natural you're not supposed to have a civilization anywhere what do you mean what do I mean you're not supposed to have a civilization anywhere like that's not I feel like the four seat like New York with four seasons is pretty civilization friendly and that's just breaking my brain I don't know what that means I feel like there's like certain places where life like flourishes and the desert is like proven to not be one

But I'm saying like you could argue that, you know, we are displacing here like less things than now. You guys are cutting down trees like Manhattan used to be trees and forests and all kinds of creatures living there. And they've been fucking displaced and gone because civilization's there now. Now there's giant skyscrapers in fucking in subways and horrific pollution like that civilization's not good for that area. And gridlock. Horrific grid. Yeah. I guess that's a different argument.

Connecticut to Long Island can't even get there because it's so congested because not that many people were supposed to be there. bad for the year. That's a different argument though. I just think, yeah, I just think like, it's, yeah. You guys like are pumping in so much non-natural water because just to like survive there as opposed to like this is so easily survivable over here that like so many people are living here. And like in the winter, it's like brutally not survivable. The heat and like your cost of of heat and energy get outrageous because it gets too cold.

That's because we're too cold, but we can definitely survive. I just like at 71 with a nice with a nice towel a blanket over my ankles. Yeah, that's what we get like every day. It's great. But I'm saying I could survive in like 35 if I wanted to just like they used to. The point being is that, yeah, I think they are cutting down water,

which is what that guy was saying, because they have to use so much fucking water to keep those golf courses clean and alive. It's insane. Yeah, they're cutting back on the water here just in general. I think because they allocate like a certain percentage of the Colorado River or whatever to certain states. and I think we're getting less percentage going forward.

Yeah, California, a lot of houses are going atro-turf lawns for that purpose. It's a big thing. Which I actually don't mind if they cut back on the water on the golf course here because that means they'll be drier and firmer and that means I can actually hit my two iron more and the ball will go farther and I don't have to hit driver all over the place. So I actually don't mind that much. So goal warming can speed up so you can hit more two irons.

It does kind of feel like we're an alien species that doesn't belong here. That's what I'm saying, Trent. That's what I'm saying, man. Because if you just, you know what makes me think that the most is that if we all just vanished, if the whole human population vanished, within like 200 years, nature would just take it all back over. Yeah, it'd be a way healthier planet. That's always so interesting to me. Like we, maybe we're not aliens, but we certainly advanced further than the atmosphere and nature we're thinking we would. And they're like, as soon as these motherfuckers leave, we're taking it all back over within a couple hundred.

years. Like there's those shows that, you know, I forget what it's called, but it was like it shows what would happen in 100 years, 200 years, 500 years, 100 years, a thousand years. And within a thousand years, it's like we weren't even here. Well, Chernobyl, right? You know, the nuclear disaster. Obviously, they had to like vacate the entire thing because there was all this radiation in the air. But even today, like 30 years later, there's deer and there's birds, even with all that radiation. So you're completely right. If we left Newton Manhattan, it would just turn. back into a forest a lot quicker than people think. Right.

Watch I am legend one time for me. I was going to say you guys literally what I am legend. No, but there is the show where it shows like I forget what the exact, like, certainly in a hundred thousand years, it's pretty much there's nothing. There's really, I saw a TikTok the other day where the only thing that would survive in a billion years is, are the footsteps on the moon. That's the only trace there would be that humans were here because there's no atmosphere on the moon. Nothing moves. So it's never going to go away. Those footsteps are never going to go away.

Everything here is going to go away eventually. It's like, I guess what I don't understand is how, like, how would all traces of all the buildings and the foundations that we've built, some of that would have to be findable in, right? Just look at Mars. They said the thing that would, the thing that would survive the longest for humans, um, styrofoam are our teeth. Hmm. Yeah. So they find teeth. They'll find teeth. But I honestly, think, I know what you're saying, rigs, all the, all the iron and all the metals and all that stuff, give it enough time and it still just goes back to the... Also, the impressions in the ground, right? Aren't we digging so deep for, like, bridges and all these places? Like, wouldn't that take,

wouldn't you see, like, oh, there's an impression in the ground that clearly there was some sort of structure here? I get, like, you would think that we've made our mark enough that, but I, yeah, I don't know. I guess... I guess you have, like, lava and oceans just keep, like, churning everything up and like eventually it's just all gone in a billion years it's just gone just gets recycled and what if mars used to be earth and like like they had people in fucking cities and we're now it's so such a barren waste on that we look at it as like oh like we're going to send this rover there and see if we can like turn the camera on and what we can see on the ground we're going to take a little pieces of sand and see if there's water that used to be here billions of years ago like that could

just be what earth turns into it's like we have no idea we used to be here right when you're talking about a scale. When you're talking about a scale of billions of years, and I think you said that the Mars stuff was two and a half billion years ago or whatever. 3.5 billion. There's no telling what anything would look like because it's just in unbelievable amount of time. Did you see what happens? Like when we talked about that Earth destroying asteroid that's coming towards us, did you see what happens? Do you see what happens when one of those things hits the ground? Like, I've seen movies. Yeah. But there's like a simulation that's been going around on Twitter and Instagram where it's like this is what would happen if a

planet killer hit us. And it was like the comet was like the size of the Empire State building from like left to like the width of it. And it just fucking hit in the middle of the earth. And it just fucking the whole place just gets torched on fire. It's just a wave of just fire. So just everything's gone. It's gone immediately like in a blink of an eye. Good night. Thanks for coming. I'd prefer a blink of the eye than, you know, in the movies they always show the title wave come in or whatever. I'd rather just bang, bang, a play at the plate. I want to get sappy on you guys for a second. All right.

Well, I got to get, I got to get out of here. I got to catch a, I got to get you. You're not going to sit for the sapiness? Real quick, did you watch the new, did you watch the new war movie on Netflix? It was like all, all is quiet on the Western front. No, but it keeps popping. It keeps popping up on my. Bro.

You know, we talk about a lot of our problems. The life of a fucking young man. World War I. During World War I and World War II was fucking insane. Yeah, we're very lucky. They didn't have enough socks. So they would get like fucking gangrene. They'd have rats eating their boys.

Yeah. It's just it's that was their life was to like, and they thought they were going in for like honor for Germany and like integrity and they were going to come back and be these like noble like young men. and all the women were going to come and they're like, you're like, you're going to go in there, you're going to get it,

and they're all fucking excited. They're putting on their uniforms. And then they just get thrown into the western front. And they're in these trenches. And they're like, what the fuck is this now? Like, first second, he gets shot from like off the top of his helmet.

Like, what? There's bombs here. There's fucking tanks. Like, we're just here to die. And then at the, this is history. So I'm not, I'm not fucking spoiling.

Right. I mean, but three million people die for a hundred. meters gained in distance? Like, what are we even talking about? How lucky are we that we get to sit on a fucking podcast and talk about our fucking dicks and space when that was what was expected of young men across the world? That's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, that was like the first modern war. And it was really, really, really bad. There were explosives. There was, it was, war used to be this like honorable thing where, you know, you'd meet in the middle of the field and one side goes. other side. Yeah, there was pageantry.

There was a guy playing the night and they would like help each other, uh, you know, clear out in honor the debt. And then it was like, they were like, we're just going whatever it takes. Right. It changed in a bad way. It's a tough movie to watch because it's just,

it hits you real hard about how fucking much it sucked, man. Gabriel Princep really just. Took out the Duke. Oh, that's just, yeah, it was like an accidental war. People were kind of like,

nothing was happening. Nothing was happening. people are we're doing this and then just the worst thing ever. And they happen to get. You can go down a big rabbit hole about socks in the war. I've done this before. You're pretty deep on the socks. I can tell.

Yeah, dude, there was a hundred, right when they went in, despite having the largest stock of knitting machines in the world, the United States was still having difficulties supplying sufficient number of socks. 150 million pairs of socks were needed. It's a lot. 150 million pairs of socks. And they didn't have. And they didn't know laundry.

And they didn't have like the systems to build them that fast. So you're thinking like all these women were in warehouses just like knitting socks, 150 million of them. Fucking socks done. Let's go. It's not like it was in like a warehouse of like with a conveyor belt and shit. That's like legit hand sewing socks. And if they didn't have them, they would get disease that started in their feet and crept all the way up and it would be a slow and painful death.

Dude, the worst part of this movie was when this fucking kid has a smile on his face and he goes up to get his fucking uniform. right he's a german kid goes up to get his uniform and he's looking down his uniform he's smiling and he sees that there's like a name on this with a little like bloodstain and he's and he's and his face changes and he's like what the fuck is this and he goes back he goes i think you guys gave me the wrong uniform and the general looks at him he's like oh yeah it just must have been someone didn't like their size like it's the wrong size and he rips the name tag off and throws it on the ground and there's just a there's a thousand name tags on the ground of just like guys that just went before him to just get his uniform and that was just someone that just fucking died in that uniform and they just

repurposed it they cleaned it they sewed it up and they just gave it right back to him it's just a never-ending cycle of death of death fuck man i just can't imagine being in the position of being in that trench watching the guy to your right step up get his fucking head snipped off and you're like okay it's time to go like i would be like what's the what's the what's the i'm obviously going get shot so why am i doing this it's the greatest generation is that what the strategy was to waste the You know what's literally happening in Russia and Ukraine right now is the exact same thing. I mean exact same thing.

It's fucking scary. Yeah, the strategy was to just outlast the other guys. It was just we're just going to keep bringing in more and more guys. They're going city by city and they are forcing young men into buses and they are doing exactly what you're talking about right now in Russia. There has been such a shift in how generations view the war and how like you're saying, frankly, they were going over and they're like, this is my duty. this is my, I'm doing this for my country.

And then nobody thought the way that you were thinking where it's like, what is this for again? They were just like, no, no, no, we're going to go do it. And it just has now that there's been so much. Dude, in England, it's so horrific that people are like, why are we doing this? In England, they, like, enlisted, like, attractive young women to go around and shame any, like, young man that wasn't enlisted and in the war. And shame you. Shame you so that you, like, had to basically go and agree to go away to war and then just

die. It's fucking horrible. And it doesn't end. It's what I mean. It's what I'm saying. It's still going on. Everyone's got veterans in their family. You know, obviously the older generation, they went through horrific stuff.

We have fucking zero blog 30 on the barstool fucking platform. We got Chaps, Kate, Captain Kahn's. These people went into war in our time. They went into war right now and they like risked all these things to do it. Chaps got shot. It's like it's like it's absolutely insane. It's absolutely insane when I watch this stuff like to see what happened. Like it's nuts.

And the horrific side. of that too is when they come back, veterans get treated like shit. Oh my God. It's awful. It really opened my eyes to just like, especially back then before PTSD and before you had like anxiety medications. These guys were just,

okay, you're going to go from that environment back to walking the streets of, you know, suburbs, USA. Right. Good luck. War makes no. How about Trent's just in the toughest spot right now because he really needs to leave, but if he just walks out while we're talking about this,

he looks like the biggest asshole ever. He's got the, He's got the posture where it's like one step, once these guys are already leaning out of his chair. I do have to leave, but I want to walk out. I have to leave like now, but I want everyone to know that I know how important this stuff is

and how the stories are real and all that shit. And we got to treat veterans better. We got to do all that stuff. But I do have to catch a train. Yeah. That's fair. Trent, save train rides, save travels.

Thank you. I got to get to the office. I do enjoy that we have a little bit of like, Frankie's almost like in Jim Carrey and Dumb and Dumber. bit where he's like, we landed on the moon. He's like finding out about World War I. He's like, wow. Well, I think that's the point of these movies. I obviously knew how this stuff happened. Is that I obviously, I thought it was pretty clean. I thought we just came in, got the W and everybody's happy. No, I obviously knew it happened. What's it takes? I don't understand what it takes.

Sometimes it takes like a movie to be to just like refresh your memory. Like that's the reason they make these things. Obviously it's for box office sales. But like at the end of the day, all right, it happen and like watching it visually with all like the new technology and like all the graphics and stuff, it just hits home harder. It's it to me that stuff makes me feel like I'm in that situation more than when I read it in a textbook. Like actually watching a 19 year old kid get there in a trench and like the way that they're able to film it now, you feel like you're there.

So yeah, I don't know. It's, it's fucking, it's just, it's a reminder. It's good that they keep coming out with these things because like you just remember all these people that just legitimately gave their lives for essentially nothing. That battle was for nothing. Do you think if you were in the 60s alive in the 60s, Frank, that you would have been like a draft Dodger hippie kind of guy? Well, that's like, that's asking the current version of me who's like a soft, pathetic person that like doesn't realize how good he has it. I mean, until I watch stuff like this and then I get all, I get all serious and I like, I ponder what like life really is.

But I think hopefully like in the 60s I would have just had a different mindset. Like, you know what I mean? you would think that you'd have a little bit more pride into like what you're doing and you'd get like caught up in the whole thing and you would do it. I think now if you asked me to do it, I wouldn't be able to. I'm just way too soft. I don't have that in me. I'm just blown away at people in our armed forces who side up for that. It's amazing.

To like and even even first responders like people who put literally the ultimate like sacrifice is very much in play. And they're doing it so that we can do this. So every time we go tee up a golf ball, it's like there are hundreds of thousands of people, just like us, born in the same country, born under the same cost of season. Same age. Same age. Who chose to do the complete opposite, where they're on planes to foreign lands representing with the stars and stripes on their arm, carrying the flag, carrying weapons because they're under attack,

literally like protecting art rights all around the world. It's insane. And then like Trent said, like, and for different eras throughout the country, I think we're better at it now, but still not perfect. Like they'd be veterans, be treated like shit. They still get treated like shit, way, way more like shit than they should. But I think that like, hopefully we as a country have a ton, like enormous respect for them. I love it at, you know, NHL games when you go and they usually, you know, they recognize some armed forces and everybody stands up. It's like we need so much more of that because we just get to fuck around and do whatever.

And none of that would be possible because there are bad people out there that if they had their way would just own the United States of America. I mean, Vladimir Putin would just own the United States of America. And we had that conversation a couple of weeks ago about how all the math and what it takes for you to be you and like all of your ancestors and stuff. Just think about how difficult that is with war in the mix, right? I mean, that every single one of those guys that I watched in that movie, that just got clipped off. It's like, that's just that family line is just, you know what I mean? That's something hard for me to think about, just like how different the world would have been had that not having. There are a couple, there's, so David McCalla, who recently passed away, who's a phenomenal writer.

He wrote, he's written a ton of. 1776, I think. But a couple of books that I would highly recommend to people are 1776. and then the biography on John Adams, and you learn an unimaginable amount about what those folks back then, the founding fathers pretty much, and everyone that kind of ran with them,

like what they actually went through and how hard they fought for exactly what we were talking about. Like they literally have quotes from then when they would, you know, when they would write to their significant others or when they would write to each other. And they put quotes in there, these fucking guys,

250 years ago say things like we are doing this so that people can basically play golf and have fun in the United States America. Like they literally say that. It's fucking nuts. They're like, we have to do this so that our kids and our grandkids and our grandkids kids can like live the way that they're supposed to be able to live in our minds, which is like free and pursue whatever career they want and enjoy like the fruits of life. Like they literally fucking say this as they're battling like the galas.

trying to defeat, you know, the British Empire and like all the moves that they're making. And he, McCall, like, puts all this into a very compelling story. And when he writes his books and you're reading this stuff being like, dude, that's the same shit that we say now. They were saying it back then, but they had no guarantee of winning, no guarantee of freedom. It was looking like they were going to get absolutely dominated. By all accounts, they should have gotten dominated. And yet they're sending these letters to each other being like, we have to continue to

persevere. We have to win this battle because if we don't, like the way of life for our kids and our kids' kids and all that just won't be the way that it's supposed to be. And you're reading this being like, holy fuck, that's what these guys did. And here we are doing this. It's fucking crazy. I would say 1776 is for nonfiction, probably the best book I've ever read. It's like they just go through the whole thing. I think he starts in like the mid 1775 and goes all the way through till like 1777 maybe. So it's like you kind of go, you kind of go through the entire thing. And we just know it as like, oh, yeah, like, you know, the Declaration of Independence. That's great. That's, that's kind of like all we know. And they go through everything from George Washington and the battles. And you're like, it's really,

really, really good. So that's a high recommendation on my part. Do you think that's a product of the times they were living in that like that was their mindset was like, that's the highest you can go at those times is to like have honor and move your country to a different like era as opposed to now with the advances in technology like our most impressive people are just doing other things right like they're not they're they're thinking about how to like in generations and generations their kids and their grand kids they're going to need solar energy and batteries and all that stuff but back then it was like we have to legitimately win wars and fight it's a product of where we live right like Zelensky in ukraine is like doing a guy he's george washington like right right he's george washington

All the women in Iran are fighting that fight, right? They're literally dying in the streets trying to like showcase to their country and to the world that like this is not the way it should be. They're just 200 years behind us right now because of just horrific like atrocities that have happened with them where they're still doing that today where we're able to just like focus on other things because we've already gotten there. I think I read 1776 when I was in college and I remember being struck by how young they all were.

Yeah. Like a lot of them were like. 30 in their 30s, 35, 36, and they're writing the constitution that is still relevant today. It's incredible how emotionally mature these guys were. Yeah. I don't have to read this. It's funny how like emotionally immature we are now, right? It's like we go to like college for four years.

We get like a hiatus from real life where you just booze and take a test like once a week. And so yeah, we're instantly like four years behind like right there. I think Shane Gillis talked about this. I always referenced when him and he's unrogan with a bunch of the guys. They call it like Protect Our Parks. It's like five comedians all get together and they all get drunk. But Shane Gillis is a huge American history guy and he's very, very involved in like current politics and all this stuff. He's hilarious guy, but he's very, very smart.

And at one point he talked about it, and I think I struggle from this where he's like, dude, we all just think like America is like the world. And he's like, the world is a shit show. Like the actual world, most of it, 99% of it. 99% of it, if you're just going to call America the 1% of it, is fucking a nightmare. There's wars. There's like there's people like executing people. It's legit.

Corruption. It's legitimate chaos. Like people like you see these footages of these third world countries and the way that they're living like most of the world is like not advanced and doing well at all. Like we're actually not, we're not succeeding in what civilization should be doing. Yes, we are, but we're in such a bubble. We're in like the most absurd bubble of all time in America. You know what I mean? It's like we actually have no idea. I, I am guilty of not really knowing what's going on. And like, that's why I love talking about it because I feel like I'm like kind of smacked in the face with reality half the time when I like, I try and ask something. And then you're just like, yeah, Zolensky's doing it right now. Like people are legitimately doing that right now. It's crazyness to think about something 200 years ago. Like it'll never happen again. It's happening right now today, tomorrow. And even in the United States, we're in a bubble because there are parts of the U.S. where it's not like this. I remember I went to Congress.

last year for the Palmetto Championship. And I think it's, I think the area surrounding Congary in South Carolina is like the poorest county in the United States or something. It's part of the mission of Congary is philanthropy and it's actually a really cool club. But you drive through and it's like there's one broken down gas station and then like a mile past it. There's like a saloon that's like hanging by a thread and that's basically it. There are parts of America, especially in the South that would really, really blow your

mind like I can't believe that this is America. So even within America, we're in a bubble. Right. No, big time. Big time. It's great. Yeah, I was thinking about a golf podcast. Zelensky was like the other day he was on the phone like basically screaming at Biden. Like, no, we need more help. And it's literally what our founding fathers were doing to France. We're being like, no, we need your fleet. Like if we don't have help, we're done. It's over. And if we do have your help and we win this, like we'll be allies forever. And it's going to be great. And that's what happened. And they end up sending the fucking Statue of Liberty like 100 years later in the whole deal.

And that's what Zelensky is on the phone with like his country's future at stake. They're being slaughtered. They're sending missiles into like Walmarts. And he's on the phone screaming with Biden and other leaders like, we got to have your help or we're going to die. And that's 250 years later. And it's the same shit's just happening. It's just different places. But we do live in an absurd bubble.

I agree with you, Frank. It's like perspective pie is incredibly important. and you don't probably think you're going to get it on the four play golf podcast, but occasionally you do. Yeah, I just think it's important to talk about. It's like you got to remind yourself, if not, you know, if not for just learning it, just to just be reminded. Like for me, a lot of this stuff is like I'm really taking a step back and realizing

what the fuck's actually going on as opposed to. I feel like we live our lives in such you get on this just, it's almost like the airport, the walkways. You just fucking go and it just takes you there. And you don't even think about what's going on. You don't even see the gates that you're passing. You just, your, your destination is the only thing you care about. That's, that's what I do every single day is like, what am I going to do today and how is it going to make my life better?

And I think you have to sometimes, you have to, I don't think you think you have to sometimes take a step back and realize what the fuck's actually going on around here. Dude, when I walk through, I think occasionally when I walk through even like a city center or like a plaza or something, you're just walking through. and there are just as you walk through blocks and blocks of buildings that have been built in streets. And then inside those buildings, there's different businesses that have leased them. Think about how many things just had to get done for just those to exist. Like somebody had to buy that land. Somebody had to get permits to build the stuff on that land. Then all these people had to come in and physically build these things.

Then they had to get coders to come in and like say that it's up to code. And then they had to go through the process of leasing all this stuff, which is a fucking nightmare. and they've got to get agents involved. And then they have to come through and, like, build it out. And then I figure out all their supply lines. So all the shit that comes into, if we're talking about Manhattan, all the shit that comes into like Manhattan, they have to figure out how to get that from the places into their restaurant now that they're building.

Like all of that stuff has just happened. And you're walking by now. All that shit has just occurred. Think about how much shit has just occurred. It's actually funny because yesterday, yesterday I tweeted at Kava because there's been a a Kava right next to Barstall HQ. that has been coming soon since I started at Barstool two months ago. And every time, you know, we get back from these trips and I walk by and I'm like,

all right, Kava's definitely open by now. I'm definitely going to be able to get Kavana. It hasn't opened yet. So I tweeted at them yesterday being like, what's going on here? When is this opening? And they said, yeah, we're waiting on the city to approve the gas lines. Con Ed is just like slow, you know, kind of slow playing us. I was like, oh, that's a logistical thing that I never would have thought about before.

Yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, it's just a logistical issue. They got to heat the place, you know? That stuff is just happening all over the place. And then like you say, one asteroid is going to come and just bang. Gone. It's just gone. Everything that we're talking about, gone.

Did you guys, sorry, go ahead, Frank. I don't know. I didn't say anything. Just switching gears a little bit here. Did you see Patrick Reed sued my close personal friend, Shane Ryan, for $250 million. I just saw this came across my radar because Alex Bush tested it to me. What's going on here? So Shane Ryan wrote a book about the writer.

Cup and a lot of it talks about Patrick Reed. Great book. I read it. Yeah, a lot of it talks about Patrick Reed and how he- High recommendation. I think I gave it a high rec on this show. Yeah, Shane Ryan's great. He wrote Slang of the Tiger in like 2014, a really good book about the modern PGA tour. And he wrote this book about the Rider Cup that came out and a lot of it talked about Patrick Reed and how he, you know, talked about Jordan Speath after Paris and stuff. And Patrick Reed hired this absolute quack of a lawyer named Larry Clayman, who is described by Wikipedia critics have described him as a gadfly and a racist, a frivolous litigator and a conspiracy theorist, while Clayman describes himself as a modern day John Adams and a fight for justice.

Go! His litigation taxes have led to criticism and to sanctions from legal authorities, including a ban from appearing in courtrooms and a temp racist. Anyway, the guy is a quack. He loses every lawsuit. He is suing Shane Ryan, Doug Ferguson, who is like the most down the middle golf journalist that there is for $250 million. He's just AP wire. Doug Ferguson. I like Doug Ferguson. He's always been nice to us. He is just a, he's

literally the AP wire. He doesn't put any, any subjectiveness on anything. He just says he just basically, his whole job is to be like Kevin Kisner shot 68 and said, quote, it was a good round, unquote. That's like Doug Ferguson's entire job. Right. And the lawsuit says they're suing to protect his loved ones from the likes of Shane, Doug and the rest of the jackals who made their who make their sorry and pathetic living spreading lies and false information about him. My client, his family and colleagues have been made the whipping boy of cheap and dishonest journalists in the golf media. I picture a jackal. I picture a conference room and they're all sitting there and Patrick Reed's wife is walking around just seems walking around being like add and whipping boy into that. She's legitimately

she's sitting there like kind of with like her hand on her fucking chin and every time he reads it out loud she adds another word that she thinks will be like a fucking dig at them. It's so good. I mean, whipping boy, this guy probably made $20 million playing golf this year. They are just so sensitive. It's crazy. This is the next incredible chapter in the Will Ferrell movie. I mean, you can't make this shit up. Like this is too good. It's too good to be true. 250 million dollars. There's some of these people for it. I text it shade. I was like, if I was you, I would just, I would just, I would just, pay you know make it go like 250 million you make that and like just write another book dude you'll be fine that's not his first personal lawsuit didn't no did he suit someone else for like a billion

dollars didn't he yeah he was suing brandle like a billion dollars seven hundred 750 million dollars he sued brandle in the golf channel the funniest number of all day it would go for like one eighth of that price oh it's so good yeah i enjoy it you know all right we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna sue brandil in the golf channel how much would you like i want 750 million dollars from it i don't We might have to even. We know this is going on. I bet you don't even know this is happening. We could get sued.

It's not out of the, it's not out of the question that we could get sued for just a jaw-dropping number. Yeah. What do you do when you get sued like that? You have to lawyer up. It sucks.

I mean, I think eventually they pay the legal fees if you beat them, but it's a whole thing and there's depositions and you've got to play ball. It would be unbelievable. They would probably go through a text.

It would be really bad, I think. Oh, God. Have we texted about Patrick Ree? No, I don't think we've, I don't think I've ever said the word. Yeah, you could search my search history. I don't think I've ever written the word Patrick Reed in my text message or email. I don't know if I have either.

We're friendly to, we've always been friendly to Patrick Reed, actually. He's actually, he's nice when you see him. Super nice. Super nice. Like, it's tough. I think it'd be good for business if they suit us. I think it'd be good for business. I've also been like pro Patrick Reed most of the show being like this guy gets shafted

half the time. They like look for things that he does wrong. I always thought that he was a funny villain. Like the fact that every time this guy showed up to a tournament, he was caught. like moving a ball or like kicking the ball out of the fucking trees or something. It's like this guy can't catch a break. I know he's he always was like of the wrong to do it. It came at his own expense.

But like, holy shit, man. Remember that time that he did something and then Rory did the same thing the next week and no one cared about it? It's like, this is not fair. It was the same week. Same like hole. It's like what the hell's going on? No, it's funny.

If you played with, if our listeners like if you played a pro em with Patrick Reed, you'd probably be like, this is a super nice guy who's engaging in like a million times and talking talkative and he's he's very nice when he talked to him in person you just get the sense that he surrounds himself with less than awesome no you don't get the sense he's surrounded by complete fucking psychopaths that are all over the place when it comes to handling his public image and i don't that's why i'm saying i don't even know i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even know this lawsuit's happening he's just like on the range or he's hanging out like whatever he has always been super nice and i've told the story of like at schenicocter in the u.s. open in 8th

which he played well at. We know a bunch of the staff that was, you know, the pro shop folks who Frankie thinks don't do anything. They work like the driving range during, you know, US opens and all. What was that? And they, would you say? I said the guys in the pro shop staff.

Oh, yeah. I'm just out on them. They all work, you know, the driving range and they were like, they get all the balls together and then put them in gnats and then bring it back out to guys. So they worked the range. And they said like on Sunday, you know, going into the final round, which Reed was, I believe, kind of in contention, said he was the only guy out of all of them, like, took his headphones off, came over, shook all their hands and was like, thank you so much

for all the great work this week. And so they love him. And they were like, yeah, he just was a super nice guy to us. So, um, so yeah, Patrick Reed is by all accounts, direct interaction with us always been very nice. He did those interviews when he was leading the US Open at Wingfoot, where he just right after the round would basically be like, all right, where's my guy Riggs? And then I was like his personal interviewer for those two or three rounds. Um, So, yeah, he's always been nice to us. I just do, I do think that, you know, it could be some folks around him that are influencing things that are affecting his image in a negative way sometimes. If you've thought about securing your home with home security, but never have done it, have been putting it off, whatever you'll want to listen up right now.

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they do work in the dark. And I think that you guys took the shrapnel from that because I had to compare one versus the other. But yeah, love my PGA professionals. I actually think I heard Frankie call you guys shirt folders before I never said but I can't remember exactly no no no I never said that I never heard of that term but I kind of like that you're gonna take that one well you just know that kills them because like they have to go to the pro shop and they have to literally fold clothes and put like they got like head there's like thousands of them that have headphones in right now

folding shirts I'm gonna hear it from my guy Dan at colonial springs who's just the nicest guy of all time who literally is like in the pro shop all the time like dude i there is nothing better than having just a golf equipment conversation with guys that know so much about equipment we were talking about some new stuff and whatever and these guys were just like having real debates about golf equipment what happens in a pro shop like in a in a country club pro shop that the conversations that happened in there how serious you can get about very minuscule golf debates are so hilarious i was standing there for like 20 minutes talking about like what really is forgiven for an amateur golfer.

It's just like we're talking about club faces and like where the, the amateurs hit it. They always hit it off the heel because you're coming from inside to out and like, it doesn't actually matter about the toe. And I'm just like, holy shit. It's just like we can get into these debates for hours. I feel bad for pros because they got to deal with endless like bickering bullshit and like

politicking about tea times about like why is the courts this way. Why did you guys set up the teas there? How come we can't get into this event? Just brutal. My favorite is like they, I know this from the Pioneer staff is like, you know, they'll air rate course four, right? And they'll shut the course down for like 10 days. And then on day 11, like that motherfucker is opening. And people paid 10 months in advance and they booked their trip and they'll get a notice maybe that was like, you know, a couple months out.

It's like, by the way, we're aerating, you know, a couple weeks before. We're playing it open. And if they have a shit airation weather, for like three days following where it's cold or there's a like the you know the air race is not going to go great they're going to like they're opening that motherfucking course that is not the decision of the assistant pro that's not the decision of the head bro that has not to do with him you know who deals with that is those guys so those fucking people come in they're all hyped up they go play course four they have their round it's it's pretty much looks like it was air rated

an hour ago and they come in and they're just rattled as they should be and it and nobody wants it to be that way, but they got to deal with the brunt of that type of stuff. And that just sucks. That's brutal. That's fucking brutal. We're having that issue. We're having that issue right now at Quaker because they punch the greens on Monday. And it's the weather this week in New York is like unbelievable. It's like 65 degrees. It's going to be, I think it's going to be 70 on the weekend. And a lot of people are not. They're like, why didn't you wait a week? We make this calendar before the season even starts. Right. Like we have to plan these things out. The, the, the grass is going to grow back so healthy and perfect because it's such good weather. Yeah. So you're right. They have they have they have they take the

brunt of things that they had nothing to do with. They had nothing to do with. I got an email so like we get all these emails Trent and I for this place colonial and they'll be like oh there's like new specials in the in the restaurant or whatever and I know like I think I'm 99% sure it comes from Dan's computer because like he sends out all the emails about like the range being closed or whatever and the other day it was like we have new specials in the restaurant and then it was a follow up email being like by the way the surline is not 32 it is 55 that a typo. It's just like if that's Dan talking about surloin steak prices and typos in the in the restaurant

thing, it's just like that guy is such a good golfer and such a fucking elite teacher. Like I just don't think that he saw himself sending out emails about like surloin steak Correct you in the surloin. Yeah. $20 more than I thought. Yeah. It's just like dude, somebody get this guy out to the fucking range.

He's like he fixed my game. Like come on. He can do this for someone else right now. Dude, I remember I love those guys. Our boy Ben Bridgers at Pioneer who's the man who's again great golfer he's come up he was you know he's he's worked in the shop he's worked all kinds of jobs of pioneers now he's pretty high up but during covid the covid shut down like all the hotels are shut down and he's kind of director of membership and for like months we would always die because he would take phone calls for food orders for takeout from like the

fighter's country club and then he was always trying to upsell him for like a like a lava cake at the end and we would always call him like lava cake bed and we would hear we'd be in there having a beer or something and he'd be on the phone with like Mrs. Smith. And he'd be like, by the way, you know, 695, we're doing those lava cakes. You want a lava cake. She'd be like, yeah, we'd be like, yeah. Dude, they wear many hats, man. Professional golf bros wear many, many, many hats.

They have to do a lot of bullshit. We got another one, boys. They got to deal with a lot of bullshit. That is crazy. There's so much bullshit in all of these jobs. So, so yeah, we get it. We got to do a show soon, behind the Greens podcast again soon. We haven't done one of those.

Yeah. I also want to, these pros specifically in the, in the Northeast, and I'm sure it everywhere. This is more me living in a bubble, but I know on Long Island, these guys,

all these pros playing in these tournaments. And Dan, you probably know more about it. Like, these, these like pro met events are so fucking intense where it's pro versus pro and they show up. There's like cheating scandals.

There's like, huge cheating scandal. They caught someone. Oh, yeah. That was a crazy one. I actually have a funny story about that. But yeah,

I like went to that guy. Like, I like went to that guy. like he was like my teacher for a second but yeah it was crazy wait wait wait do you do you disavow him i just don't know the whole story i like haven't even talked to him about i don't smart diplomatic answer don't know the whole story but it's from what i've heard it was pretty crazy with like pulling balls out of like the the pulling balls out of the bunkers and like like using like different balls like he'd be using like a tidalist two and then on the green like while the guys were

waiting there was like a titleless four rolled up and it's just like what's happening right now like almost fists were thrown but i do want to do something at one of these events. Like, because I think that it's such a cool, um, event where it's like, not only is it the pride of the pro on the line, but it's like their club backs them. There's such a, it's like, it's like, it's literally like rooting for a team. It's almost like live where it's like, what team do you root for? Like my guy from Colonial.

Oh, they're definitely wearing the logo. My guy from Colonial Springs is going up against that guy from Quaker and they're in a match play event to see who's the best fuck at there. Like, I want to. I don't know what the rules are, but I'd love to make these, like, bigger events for these guys, like, where we can, like, have fans show up and, like, root for, like, I don't know that they actually do that, but, like, I would love to highlight these things because every time I talk to Dan about one of these events, I'm like, that sounds like the coolest thing ever. You're playing in,

like, a competitive, bringing home the trophy to your home club type event. Like, why are we not talking about this? This is insane. And there's also, there's a little bit of a split because there are a couple guys who are technically club pros who don't really do what the other club pros do they kind of just travel around playing in tournaments. And so those guys tend to win the events because they're basically professional. Right. Well, how about the guy from Deepdale? The guy played against like Tiger Woods. He's played in like eight majors. He played against Tiger Woods in the U.S. Open and like feed him on Thursday and Friday. And there's like a quote that I think he has like written on his like office being like, who the hell is this guy again? This guy's good like from Tiger Woods.

Yeah. So there's some guy, Mike Ballo. You guys know Mike Ballo? Yeah. Mike Ballo. Like Alex Beach, like Alex Beach. He like plays in the US Open every other year. Yeah. But like Beach, like he you know I don't think he's folding shirts and so there are definitely guys who feel like it's not a fair fight because some of them are beach out of beach is out of west hester country club but he goes but he goes to florida for the winter and plays in like mini tour events and then he comes back uh and plays you know these other pros probably fucking hate when he showed that's what i'm saying new york event that's what i'm saying that's what the fuck that's what i'm saying so there's there's that like animosity within the field of the the the proper club pros versus the club pros

i'm doing air quotes for our listeners dude those are the bad guys frankie this is this is like an extension of the behind the green series you need to do like a documentary on this shit and absolutely i did i just hope the bad boys of the of the club pro tournament shows up and nobody's talking about it like like like you need like shit talking and like these guys are all pros and they're professionals you're never going to have like open anonymous we just go anonymous right no no no like just get him drunk dude we'll just get him fucking drunk and just like they'll just put a mic on all right here's my i mean i could always talk to dana about but like here's my call to action is like let me know which one to hide like I want to go to one event and

I want to make it like a thing I want to talk about I want to prepare it on the podcast and be like these are the top players this is what's going on this is where the event is this is who's playing against who the pride of this club versus this club and all these different sections along on I want to go to it I want to almost like announce it I want to be there and I want to like root for guys I want to do that next year this upcoming spring tell me which one to go to I think they haven't met like Bethpage black all the time there's like a there's a there's a club championship. There's the assistant pro championship. There's a bunch of there's like a whole series throughout the year. I'm in too. I'm gonna write a, I'm gonna review it like it's a major championship

and write a story about it. I like that a lot. Dude, Frankie, there's also really good, uh, like at the different resorts in clubs, they'll do a caddy tournament at the end of the year. Wow. That's an easy one where you go for like one or two days and you document, they'll think because the caddies are a little bit, I mean, they're not as buttoned up as the pros. I feel like they might just let it loose. But you go to like Bannon or Aaron Hills or a private club on Long Island where the caddies do their end of the year caddy tournament. And you get like a lot of the members are, they do a huge Calcutta or something similar where they bet on the caddies on who's going to win.

And then they're out there like following their guy and these caddies who fucking, you know, work for everybody. Carried their bags all year long. Now they got the whole like the weight of it's all on them and they're hitting the shots. That's a phenomenal dynamic. We should do like a version of the Barstow Classic is like the caddy championships. Who's the best caddy golfer in the world? world. How do we get that? We do like two or three flights, one in each section of the country where

the caddy has to go there. If you think you're the best, you got to go play and you have to qualify. And then we have a caddy championship. Like we finally put a light on these guys that carry everyone else's bag. Like who won the caddy? And we like have a prize, a cash prize. Like let's fucking add. Let's add this. I know we already travel and we already have so much logistics, but let's somehow do a tournament for caddies. Let's somehow do that. Right. We got to have some list of qualifications though because like in Florida and Arizona and Vegas. There's a lot of like mini tour players who are caddies. Right. You got a catty like, let's say you got a catty like five years. No, you got a catty like 30 rounds that year or something like that. You know, right, whatever it is. And then you're

eligible. Well, the club would have to offer up their best cat like wherever these guys catty, like their catty master would have to offer up like their best club. Right. And then we win at your club. You got to be the best catty. Right. We trust the catty master to weed out the like not actual catty. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I don't know how. Because there's going to be a billion in people that want to play in it, but like the caddy masters would have to like run their own sort of tournament one day. Callifiers. A qualifier when they get to play on Wednesday nights.

And like whoever wins that, he offers that person up in an email to us. We have like caddy championship at barstlesports.com or something. And like we have a list of people, the story of like what, who they beat, why, like what did they do in that championship? Dude, every. Imagine like, once we announce that, that Wednesday night head to toe in piner's gear. I will blow. was behind them and it's like, I will blow the preview cover.

I'll blow it out of it. I mean, we will do full major championship coverage. Bandon versus fucking cabbitts. It's like these guys are all showing up from all different parts of the country to go play it like an elite golf course. Come on. That would be so sick.

That would be so fucking sick. We'll have that next year. We're doing that next year. Yes. Done deal. What a meeting. What a meeting. What a meeting of the minds.

Trent's going to log on and be like, we have, what? Well, dude, this is how we came up with the four-man scramble. Trent, we're the commissioner of the caddy championship, by you. Good luck. When we came up with a four-minute scramble, it's all on a podcast. We were just like having a discussion about like, because Riggs was just going to play

kids. He's like we got to do this for, it's like at the height of COVID. He wants to play me for charity. I was going to play from half the yardage. So kids was going to play from $3,500. At Piner's number two. And we were just going to just have a straight up match. And then the debate turned into like, why don't we play him as a scramble because we've debated

forever? We did that live on the show. Right. Live on the show. There's what the best ideas happen. I think the catty championship. ship, whatever we're going to end up naming it, the caddy cup or whatever, we'll end up being a huge idea that came up on this podcast.

The BCC, the Barstool Cadi Cup, right there. Imagine how good the trophy is of just a silhouette of a caddy, like holding the bag, carried a bag with a bib. Yeah, with the flag and the bib. Oh, my God. Dude, it's fucking crazy, man. So then it would be up to, it would be up to the resort or the course or the club to basically you have to do whatever you need to do on your end to decipher.

and present your one winner from your champion spot. Right. And your champion now enters the pool. And then they go to like a regional and then they'll be like a, you know, whatever, a semi-regional and then they'll be a national championship. Something along those lines. Right. We could, I mean, you know, I know a lot of local guys want to be in it.

Like, so you could do, like, I think you do resorts for sure because it's easy to like say, like, this is a resort course. So you have like stream song versus band and versus piner versus that. Like they all offer. up their guy. And then you can do locations like Long Island, maybe or like Nassau County, where it's just like the one caddy's going to come out of

Nassau County. And like all the clubs can figure out how they want to get that guy from them, right? They can have qualifiers. They can all meet up. They can do that shit. We have to have like one guy because it's going to be hard to get. All these guys are going to want to play. It's going to be impossible. You get a billion emails. No, but I'm saying if you had one from each place, you know, like each event has, from each club You can have a hundred

And what's up From each club I'm saying Wow But I don't think every club in the country Is gonna do it Like man there's not that many clubs That have caddy programs Like there's a lot

But not like every course in the country Doesn't have a caddy program True true No it'll be doable Yeah that's true That's very true Even if it's like 200 That's still very doable

Yeah I was gonna say It's probably only like 500 courses Right Yeah because I would say in the whole Like in St. Louis There's probably only a handful of courses In all of St. Louis That have caddy programs

Right. Right. I don't know. We'll have to figure out the numbers. But we should, we're doing it. We're doing a caddy cup next year. We have to figure out. That's going to be a lot of logistics and live event lease is probably going to fucking just slam or phone against something.

But we are doing a caddy cup for sure. People are going to get jacked up. Listen to this. Caddy's going to be like, I'm winning this thing. I got a guy in mind. You guys probably all have a guy in mind. 100% chance. Kevin lused a lot, baby, out of Las Vegas.

Kevin, if you're listening, this is for you, baby. Wow. This is insane. I'm excited. Dude, our guys from, like, Pebble, uh, Jizner's guy. Jeff, he's a really good player. Like, he's a good player, I think. Yep, that's true.

Imagine the wearing their stuff. Like, the video we shoot, like the guy from Pebble walks in. It's like, whoa. We got a bunch of young Argentinians at Quaker Ridge who all played like college golf at these random schools in Nebraska. Like those guys are going to be smeged for this. These guys are sticks. These guys.

Dude, hopefully we get some cheating scandals. Come on. We could have to invite your boy, Frankie. Yeah, I think in these, like, many qualifiers at their clubs, it'll be cutthroat too. I'm picturing this podcast coming out. All right. So now it's fucking November 2nd, whatever it is that we're putting this out. November 3rd.

We're obviously not going to have this until next season. We're going to have to come up with all the logistics. But there will be a day where we say, like, all right, this next two weeks at your local club will, like, we'll put out a call to action to all the caddy masters to hold their own qualifier. I think those days will be cutthroat. Yeah, they will. I'm picturing like Rockville links, this guy Jeff be like, all right, whoever wants to play in this qualifier. Like you guys are showing up Wednesday night. We're doing a tournament.

Like, winner takes all. You are the guy that we submit to the email. Like if you win that, you get a chance to get in. Those would be fucking intense. I think like, I think fights happen. I think fists are thrown. Yeah, it's up to the club. However the club wants to come up with their guy, if they just say this is the best golfer, done, fine.

We don't give a fuck. It's literally totally up to them to come up with their own, their best guy. They want to do a huge qualifier. I imagine most of them will. They can do it. But yeah, I think we just leave it up to the caddy master, the head pro, and be like, just send us your best guy. I love it.

I love it. Right. And it'll be up to them to decide, like, you know, this guy's a legitimate catty because that's what I'm worried about. I'm just worried about the mini tour players who have, like, caddyed a few rounds. We need the caddy masters to be like, all right, this guy's a catty. He's been here. He's a cat.

Right. Give the caddy a chance. This is what this is about. It's not about you playing in your tournaments and all that shit. All right. what's uh Alex Bush just sent us something found this online from 2017 so it's deaf higher now but nearly a hundred

public resort facilities and our private Bush you need to just chime in when that happens yeah just talk don't send us a thing we got to read like weirdos just talking just talk Bush can you talk yeah take yourself a what happened I wanted to say what you wrote

stop putting yourself on mute I just said yeah that's all I said what did you write what happened there's 2017 there were about 100 clubs with caddy programs. With like full programs, right? Okay. Yeah.

All right. No, yeah. It's going to be great. It's going to be absolutely great. I'm sure that we'll have to decipher through a lot of names and a lot of submissions, but, you know, it's not something we haven't done before. We're going to figure this out.

This is very, very new idea. It's been five minutes since we figured this thing out. Five minutes. This could be next show. We might be like, what are you talking about? We didn't say that.

I feel like in an hour we're going to look back on it and be like, what did we just commit to? No. I think it'll be, I think it's going to be doable. I think it's doable. Even if it's like low scale, like it's going to happen. I'm going to call it a coin flip right now. Okay.

I've already gone back. It's just a lot. It's a lot. It is a lot. But we're, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. 51%. 51%.

I think we can do it. I think there's a way to do it. Even if it's like, it's not as big as scale as we want it to be because like we already have such a huge scale barso classic thing, which is as big as it gets. I do think that we can like just have third. resorts, like, offer up their best caddy and we just do one tournament. You know what I mean? Like, there's a way of doing it's a hundred in the whole country?

That can't be right. I don't think that's right because there's, even if we get 120 golf courses slash resorts to send their best caddy, that's one tournament at one place. We do it. We call it the caddy cup. We have a whole video series about who's coming from where. I think that's very doable.

How do we decide on the 120? What if we get more submissions than 120? He's just using that as an example. We're just using as an example. We could do, if we get 240 submissions and we do two tournaments, I don't know, or like two days and like, or two flights. Right. I think we see how many submissions we get and then we kind of go from there. Yeah. For sure.

Caddy Cup. It's going to happen. Might not. Yeah. We'll see. From the gallery, we've got to do a couple from the galleries. Foreplay at barstolesports.com. Turns out when I say that email, we get like dozens of submissions, even though we haven't gotten any for months leading up to it, which is good.

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Ian says, favorite truly favor is Wild Berry. Add a shot of vodka to make it wild with an exclamation point. Do you think the Live guys saw a decrease or increase in social media following once they left the PJ tour and joined Live? Well, I'm sure there's like a answer to this question, but like you could just, you could check. But yeah, I think he's asking what we think though. Yeah, I think a decrease would be my guess. I just, I don't know if there's that many people who are like, oh, now that he's on Live, I'm going to follow. him. I feel like there's more that would go the other way. There's more violently, there's more violently anti-live people than violently pro-live people. But maybe there's all the thoughts. I think you get a

quick bump and then it's, and then you have less exposure. So I think right away, depending on who you were, but if you're like Taylor Gooch, Taylor Gooch was a way bigger name for a couple weeks than he's ever been in his entire career because he was like the shocking young up-and-coming guy who had had some success in the PJ tour who went to live at the beginning. So I could see him getting a bump right away, then ever since then being basically invisible, even though they've had success with his squad, like being pretty much invisible. Like I don't know that his social. So it'd be interesting, but I think over the last several months, I bet he got less than he did

over the same stretch of months last year, for example. But I bet he got a pretty quick bump. I would be surprised if he didn't. I think interactions have gone up tremendously throughout their entire existence of being on live. If you saw how many, if you saw stats on how many times Taylor Gooch was out. added on Twitter or like tagged in an Instagram post, it is night and day higher when he's on live than when he was on the PJ tour. For him to get tagged in anything on the PJ tour, he had to literally win or be in contention,

which the odds are it's like that was one in a blue moon that that was happening. Now it's like anyone can be talking about him for his decision that he made or just being on a team, just Dustin Johnson being good or whatever, like just anyone being good on his on live. he's like mentioned on it now. So yeah, I think that interactions for sure. I don't think followers. I don't think that would have done anything.

I don't think like I kind of agree with Danny where it's like, oh, I don't think anyone's following anyone because of this decision. Like I don't think like Rory's following went up because he's pro PGA tour either. I don't think the, I don't think anyone's like like bringing their allegiance to someone's social media because of these decisions. Yeah.

But if you're just in the news more because you're pro PGA tour and you're getting coverage, your followers naturally go up, I think. Yeah, I think so. I think, I think Rory's profile has expanded over the last year. I think part of that is because he's won a bunch of tournaments and he's playing great, his number one in the world. But also I do think that, I do think that him emerging as the voice of the PGA tour and sort of the conscience of golf, so to speak, has, he's got more of a leadership position

and more of a platform now than he did before, I think. But I guess I would say, like, who's an equivalent to a Taylor Gooch that's still on the PGA tour, like Scott Stallings or something like that. Harris English. Like Harris English and Taylor Gooch in the last six months, who's had more like social media? Oh my God. Taylor Gooch by far. Taylor Gooch by far.

Well, but I think Frankie's right. I think it's mentions and discussions, but I don't know that people are clicking the follow button. Yeah, but I think those things are correlated. I think that if you're getting way more mentions than that, you're just going to get more followers. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a weird question. It's like if we're really going to decipher like how many followers they I think it's just interactions on social media. Like who's more in the news. It's definitely the guys in live. It's true that Taylor Gooch was the first guy who was like, what the hell? Like Taylor Gooch is going? Yeah, that was surprising.

Tyler from Minnesota, favorite truly flavor is black cherry. How many Franks? How many different Frank head covers has Tiger Woods had over the years? I think it's only like two or three. I think he replaced it a couple years ago. I remember and it was a big deal. Or maybe it's every You know what?

You can actually find this out His mom gives it to him I know his mom gives it to him I didn't know that His mom gives it to him His mom gives it to him Yeah What do you mean?

Telling me Taylor Made And like Nike Doesn't just have that thing Waiting for him No They don't just have a new Frank All right There's an article here

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And Sean Zoc Don't know Dylan to chair Good writer You probably know that Tiger's mother, Tita, bought him a head cover and continues to buy him one each year. So in love from mom into the back of each one in her native tie. Jesus. Wow.

There you go. I didn't know that. Yeah. So 25 or 27, whatever it is. How long he's been playing? It's pretty ridiculous. So she actually hand sews love from mom inside Frank. In tie.

In time. Wow. That is way cooler than I thought it was. That's the coolest Tiger Woods story of all time. Like how would we never heard? That was one of the segments that I initially pitched was like a tiger fact of the day or something. Wow. That would have been a good one.

Wow. That's a really good one. Yeah. I'm going to bring one for you guys on Monday and we'll just see how it works. You just hear that just banging? I don't hear anything. All right. Uh-oh.

The ghosts are coming. No, no. I've been creepily looking just over your right shoulder. And if I just see something, it would be such a moment. Oh, God. All right, fellas. I think, are we done here? It's been like an hour and a half.

You guys got any else? I got to get into the city. I got to go do a photo shoot. A lot of photo shoots these days. A lot of photo shoots. Boy, I'm not doing. Make sure you get those G4 transfusion shoes. We also have a new line, a fall line out right now.

But what I really want to talk about is the other day I did a stream like 2 o'clock in the morning. We had like 600 people at 2 o'clock in the morning on like a Monday. Just like I was playing divot derby. And I told every single person, I said, you know, we never make this push to like go subscribe to the YouTube page and like do all these things. One of the things we never do is when we release this podcast, we never ask people to like go write a five star review and just write anything. Like even if it's just like, all right, like go for play or something. And as simple as that is, I think that you trick the iTunes system. When you just write that, it just shoots us all the way up.

So if you're a supporter of the podcast and all these other podcasts do this, they ask for all these things. We never once call attention to it. And the other day I did it on the, I did it on the stream. And I just looked and there's like 12 new five-star comments just being like, Frankie sent me here. Thanks a lot. Love the boys. Here we go.

Oh, he just made an eagle on this hole on PGA Tortuke. 23. It's just like, it's funny to see that it actually works. So I figured I'd call it out to the actual podcast listeners as opposed to the streamers. Go fucking leave a five-star review, whether you're on Spotify or iTunes. It makes a big difference. I mean, we're not doing this thing for our health. I mean, we want to like keep growing. So if you just hit this thing for five stars, it helps us. Simple as that. There's nothing else to do with performance or whatever. iTunes loves the stars and they love recent comments. Leave a fucking review. And then the other thing is we have a Snapchat show now. So open up your Snapchat.

Open up your Snapchat out there. You little snap person, I know you're snapping people left and right. It's actually a really good show. Snapchat show that we've got on there now, our own. So you go to what, forward play? Is that how you find it? You go on Snapchat. You see your face, right?

You're about to take a selfie. What's up? Hold on. Let me see. So I'll walk you through this ASMR. Can you hear that? So I open up Snapchat and I do this. So I just took a selfie.

You don't have to do that. You exit out of that. Basically, you're on your screen, you swipe to the right. How do you guys say that? You actually swipe left, but it goes right. Do you say swipe? I hate that. Swipe left.

Swipe left. Do you say swipe left? No. See, if I'm trying... It's like when somebody tells me it's a higher seed. I'm the same way. I'm like, oh, it works, but they're better. If I'm trying to bring something from the right side of the...

So my screen, if I'm trying to bring something from here, I'm trying to bring it to the... Trying to bring it on screen from the right. I'm saying swipe right. Well, it's like on Tinder or whatever when you would... What do they say? Swipe left and swipe right. Swipe right is when you want the thing to go right. Swipe left is when you want it to go left.

So you're trying to get something from the right to go left. So I would say swipe left. Wow. See, off the top of my head, I always said you swipe right. But I guess you're right. I guess it is swipe left. Okay. You bring the thing in from the right.

You're on the main screen. You bring it from the right. You go to the little search bar. You type in foreplay and there it is. We're right there. Foreplay. Bang. You just got to type in foreplay and you subscribe.

Simple as that. Steph Curry, golf skills are next level. There's a whole episode about Steph Curry hitting at the Barstow Classic and all the stuff that he said at the Barstow Classic. It's a very good episode. So make sure. Just drop my mic.

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