Fore Play - ‘World’s Most Famous Golf Courses?’ Featuring Hardy
Episode Date: February 28, 2023A big, big video coming Wednesday. PGA Tour vs LIV was hot this weekend. What are the top-5 most famous golf courses in the world? Country star, songwriter, golf nut and our friend, Hardy (01:40:58), ...joins the show. Dan gets kicked off. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had a big weekend of sport. The 5th annual Barstool Classic commences Monday. And much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Oh, Rick!
What's up, my brother?
I got a buddy who struggles with that shot.
A lot.
His name's Frankie Burrilli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname of butter knives because he always knives to the cross the green.
Rock 100.
Now you've got to break 90.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool.
Thank you.
You're making it cool.
We bring it.
I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.
And he grabs 100.
He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself.
What?
What are you that different?
It's ain't a hobby.
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coming together. Big show. We got Hardy, our good friend Hardy on. You guys sat down with him for
nearly an hour in New York. I'm bummed that I missed it because Hardy is one of our favorites. I'll never
forget our first interview we had him on when he spoke about almost like he had a little bit of
imposter syndrome that you've heard Max Homa and Joel Damon talk about a little bit where he was
a songwriter forever. He still is. A lot of guys have obviously sang a lot of the songs that he wrote
that you probably know. And then he became not just a songwriter, but obviously a performer and this
kind of country star you guys sat down with him a huge golfer so that's coming in the second half of
the show um we're going to get into some more dan rap live versus pga tour stuff but if you would
speak now dan rap i think i don't know that's going to work before you guys cut me off i just want to
say before you guys coming off i just want to get this in there yeah that was that was the saudi
sports equinox this weekend there was yeah yos yeah well seeer was front and center at you manchester
united against newcastle Tommy fury and jake paul fought in riyadh
live golf going on christiana rinaldo who they paid 200 gazillion dollars was at the tommy
furry jake paul fight that was the saudi as a sports weekend's going to get i'll spare you guys
for the rest of the time yeah so we're kicking dan rapboard off the show you just cannot in an
audio form have that noise for an hour and a half straight you just can't do it we won't allow it
bye bye dan by dan it's just it's an executive decision you have to get rid of that guy when he sounds
like that it's an audio show you like his input we obviously love having him on the podcast but when he
sounds like that. It's a no-go. He's just going to sit on the bench because he's he has an
upper body injury. And at the end of the day, we have to just move on without him. Get that typewriter out,
put the microphone away. I've had, I've lost my voice many times. Sometimes you go a little too
hard on the weekend. It's devastating. You spend all day Sunday trying to recover it, trying not to
speak too much. And then you just can't fucking talk. I've been kicked off a barster radio by Dave
Portnoy for having a voice like that. Just can't have it. It's an audio show. So Dan out.
Just the three of us. We got a lot to get to you. I will say we got six out.
reads today. So I guess that tells me maybe the sales team is finally back from Christmas
vacation. So welcome back. Boomin. Hope that they feel rested and recovered and had a great
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Hardy at the second half of the show. We got a lot of live versus PJ tour. It felt like that
was kind of the big thing in golf Twitter all weekend long. I do want to get into some great
points that Dan made about the Saudi Arabian thing because that Jake Paul, Tommy Fury fight last night
was, and Dave was tweeting it out, Portnoy, one of the most stunning like Saudi Arabia and
fluff jobs that I've ever heard in my life. And it made me so much think about how much shit that
the live golfers get. And then there's pretty much a pass. It feels like for all these other
kind of events that go on in leagues and tours and fights. And this one was,
There was a point where one of the guys, I don't know if it was Radio Rahim or somebody was setting up the fight.
And I tuned in because Portnoy convinced me to bet on Jake Paul, which was obviously a loss.
He's one of the worst gamblers in history.
So I can't believe I listened to him.
But they're setting up the fight, which they do a great job of.
And they're hyping and they're talking about how meaningful this fight is.
And at one point he says, he's like, this meaningful of a fight where we're going to learn about if somebody doesn't have necessarily the boxing background versus somebody who comes from a boxing family pedigree.
I can't think of a better fight.
I can't think of a better place to host such an iconic fight than the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
I fell off my couch.
And I actually, I was thinking, you could probably come up with, I don't know, 150,000 better places to host so many.
Anything, really, than the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
And they just kept harping it throughout the night.
And you could tell that everybody that had been paid and I don't blame them said,
thank you to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia down to Jake Paul when he lost he thanked the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and they're all doing it and again if they write you a check for a million dollars or 10 million dollars or 50 million dollars depending on who you are how much you're making if the worst you got to do is thank the kingdom of Saudi Arabia fly over there for a week do a show and then you come back and you're just rich in America forever fucking do it good for you but but yeah I was a stunning it was a stunning weekend for something sport washing Saudi Arabia that we've talked about for a year and a half straight
on this show to see it in all of these other venues and sports and events so prominently
and people just didn't even really care.
It was, it just made me kind of think, what the fuck are we doing here?
It makes you wonder, was there a way for Live golf to go about doing what they did without
all of the public ridicule?
I think the answer is no.
It's just, it's a competing league.
You're grabbing all this talent from an existing American league.
and that was always going to ruffle a bunch of feathers.
Boxing to me is such, it's such a, there's such a gross underbelly of boxing.
And it's, it feels like people taking checks from wherever.
It's not necessarily, it's not part for the course, but it's not too far off.
Golf trying to go, trying to get into the world of golf as, as Liv has done.
I don't think there was a way to do it without the, the reaction that has happened thus far.
I just don't think boxing has the,
the Alan Shipnucks and the Brandlchambleys that are like the gatekeepers of the history of the game
of golf, they don't have that for boxing like you're saying. It's always kind of been this
rogue entertainment style. They go wherever the biggest money is. They've always been in Vegas.
And like there's always all these, you know, thoughts and and assumptions that it's all rigged
and all this shit. So yeah, I mean, I don't think that people were diving deep into like the integrity
of the sport and and where their honor is and are they family guys and like,
Is your money dirty?
I mean, if you're really going to argue if, like, boxing money is dirty,
I mean, you got to start years and years ago as opposed to golf.
That's a pretty new age argument.
Yeah, and I will say Brandel has made that point.
He has said, like, well, if you look at golfers, like the top, you know, whatever it is,
three of the top five or six highest paid athletes in the world are golfers from Jack
Nicholas to Arnold Palmer to Tiger Woods to Phil Mickelson.
And he's like, golf has this reputation over decades of like the,
high upstanding, you know, citizens and athletes and people that we look up to in this society
and they're, you know, kind of supposed to be looked at a certain way. And that clearly has
affected the perception of this whole thing. And I'm sure there's some folks out there listening
that are more into boxing or soccer or whatever that have seen some of the pushback that we
just haven't seen because I'm sure they've gotten at WWE going over there, boxing going over there.
I saw Pat McAfee basically said that like he wants to see with his WWE contract, if they end up
being bought or going and being heavily, you know, owned by Saudi Arabia that that's going to
impact his decision. So it's not like it's never been brought up in other sports.
Having said that, it does feel like the live golfers and live as a whole has gotten substantially
harder pushback for this entire thing over the last year than all of those other entities.
And it was just, it was wild as someone who's pretty head in the sand in the golf world and
like misses a lot of the other stuff to see it that prominently featured not just in the boxing
but in soccer and all the different personalities that were there and big names and stars that were
there at the boxing and all that coming together and culminating and people just openly thanking
the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for putting on this amazing show was uh it just made me again kind
of sit in my apartment be like what the fuck is phil did that after winning the gc crushers whatever
their name is. If he did that, I mean, people would have like their heads would explode in the
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Our producers, I love our producers. I love, you know, Alex Bush, Brendan, Coup, all these guys that work so hard.
There's a butt coming. I think they fucking hate me. And I know a lot of people hate me. But last week, when we were talking about Live and we were having this discussion about like, you know, why are they even doing this? We've been talking about this for a year and it's so boring and like all
these things and like I just can't get into it and the teams are pathetic and all this idea.
And then I was flipping it on to the other side and I asked a question where I said,
you know, at some point are these golfers like thinking that they are worth more than they
actually are? Like are they being too greedy? Why can't golfers just make what golfers make?
Like is, is five million just not enough? Like, do you think that that value is supposed to be
a hundred million like because you hit a golf ball? Like where did that like come in? And then you
answered my question, which is what a podcast?
is someone has an opinion or a question you know i'm a fucking dumb idiot so sometimes i ask stupid questions
which i'm sure some people might relate to my dumb questions if that if you are i feel bad for you
they have the same brain as me but riggs just answered my question and said like well no every team
and every sport and i think i compared it to hockey every sport like has they have all these
contract negotiations they literally sit out and like they stop their feet if they don't get what they want
they want more money they go from team to team and they take new contracts and i literally said that's a
great point. Like, you're right. I was completely, my question was dumb. Now I know the answer.
And our fucking social media team just cuts it off after, before the answer, before my like,
like, the confirmation saying, I agree with you and like that. Yeah, you're right. That was just a dumb
question by me. And they blast it out not once, not twice, five different times on all different
forms of social media, the main barstool Instagram, Twitter. I mean, the main barstool Twitter,
TikTok, fucking Snapchat. And it's just like, all it says is does Frankie Borelli think they got
Hell yeah.
Golfers are too greedy.
Like,
is that getting us more listens or are people just thinking I'm the fucking dumbest
person on the planet?
Like,
why would you do?
Why would our own people?
That's what's going on.
That's what's going on.
That's showbiz.
Non-context me.
Like,
I had to like defend myself against the foreplay as if it was some other entity being like,
can you believe what this guy said?
Like, no,
it was out of context.
It is show business.
But I would say,
as a general rule,
don't make our,
our own audience hate the people on the show for no reason is my opinion i thought it was a great
segment because i asked the don't question and you answered it very well and like then i was like you're
right like that's like what that's what having a discussion in real life is how many times have you
sat at a bar and you said something stupid and someone made a good point and you like kind of laugh and
take a sip of beer and you're like fuck i was wrong like that anything you should be you should be
applauded for saying oh yeah that you're right you should be applauded for that i know i know exactly what you're
I agree, I think I agree very much with what Trent just kind of wrapped it up with, which is like,
we don't necessarily need to be putting out stuff that is twisted and out of context a little bit
or a lot of bit sometimes that is only going to stir a negative reaction from the vast majority of people.
I mean, for no big like game.
Like someone there's no game on the show is holding to some big or they're dying on a hill.
And like, then you could obviously put that out there.
But when somebody like he just said makes or kind of ask a question and is like, oh,
you know what?
Okay.
Now that I'm more informed, that was a little idiotic.
Okay.
I've come around.
And then to have that be the thing that you're sort of for that week on social known as,
that's tough break.
It's just the tough of the brand.
I mean,
we spent like 10 minutes talking about how no laying up was like dumb for saying that
the whole at Riviera was like too hard and like it should be better.
And we're like, can you believe they said that on that podcast?
And then in the same episode, I'm sitting here saying like,
golfers are too greedy.
They're the only professional sports team that does the professional sport athletes that don't,
that want to make more money.
And then it just cuts off.
And then like people like Justin Thomas and all these guys that follow us and they want to do the show,
they're like, they think that I think they're too greedy.
And like, I mean, I didn't even say that.
It's crazy, Alex.
That's crazy.
Alex, do you want to speak for yourself?
You want to defend yourself from the clock?
Yeah, that's on us.
That's on us.
You don't have to be all sad about it.
No, I'm not.
Alex, I appreciate your apology, but a brother, it's too late.
You know, it's just, you know, you're going to move forward.
We're going to move forward.
You don't have to be all sad about Alex Bush.
We're going to end up going like, we're going to be fighting each other here coming up soon because the savers are a problem for my islanders.
They're not losing games.
Aren't you just talking last week about how they're a joke?
Well, they are a joke because there's so many games in it.
They have the best schedule in the angel history.
That would be better.
They have the best schedule in actual history.
They don't have to play games with the honest to play every single night.
Anyway, if you're going to apologize to me, Alex, apology is accepted.
I just, I'm saying at some point we've got to have a head on our shoulders.
When the guy finishes that statement saying that I'm wrong,
why would you end it right before that?
Because clearly I thought I was wrong when I finished that sentence.
Holy shit.
Whatever.
It is what I did.
Did Alex hear from you about this before just now?
No, no, I didn't.
Okay.
I wasn't sure if there was any back.
gonna like fucking bitch and moan about it like to them they're fuck i mean i'm bitching and moan
about it now i'm just saying like it's just it made me laugh like maniacally to myself being like
why am i getting tweeted and tagged that i'm the biggest dumb idiot that i don't know anything
about sports when like i just asked a question that got answered and then i agreed with it i'm
surprised that's what you took out of it when the makeup one was on that same episode oh see the makeup
yeah i like to wear makeup it's like that one people fucking they roasted me for
that but whatever yeah i want to put on some blush i'll double down on that i don't give a fuck
that's also like that doesn't affect anyone's like credibility talking about golf and golf podcast
it was just like oh frankie wants to wear makeup ha ha ha where when it's like you said it's just
it's justin thomas whoever sees that it's like i was the kind of thing about going on with the
four play guys and now they think i'm too greedy fuck them like that's not we're not sitting here
saying that like he's doing some deep thought experiment about it but that might just jump in
someone's head and be like okay well fuck those guys for a couple months it was as if i have like the
Worst thought about golfers ever.
Like it was like Frankie hates professional golfers.
The title was nuts.
Our PGA tour players too greedy.
What?
I had,
I will say I had individual sport Twitter coming after me a little bit too
because I think my quote from that same clip maybe or different one was like,
well, you know,
I can understand the live golfers now that I've,
you know,
seen more of it in that they guaranteed money aspect is incredibly appealing
because in none of the other sports,
do you have to go earn every dollar necessarily?
You don't have to win the games to win the money.
If you play baseball, hockey, NFL, whatever.
Yes, I was like, you obviously get paid X amount every year,
no matter what, there's incentive bonuses.
But for the most part, you're guaranteed money,
and that's what you get.
And so I could see the live golfers wanting that
because they're friends that are athletes and other sports have that.
And in no real, like, sport, do you have to earn every dollar?
And I got a guy tweeted Abby who's been tweeted me a bunch,
and I just haven't rubble that he listed no joke he listed tennis track and field oh boy
a couple of others he lost me at track and field but when I was like tennis okay tennis
but I was going to respond to be like look I'm talking like sports that are on television
have yeah and I wasn't trying to shoot another sports track of field difficult you got to jump
over poles and run down tracks and shit's hard I get it but like we're talking if a guy like
just and thomas if you go into his fucking boss
room at his house, which we've been in before.
He's got jerseys signed by Steph Curry and Aaron Rogers and all those guys.
The guys that he's buddies with that he considers himself a peer to in the sports world,
like they get guaranteed X amount of money so I could see how somebody like him or like,
you know, Cam Smith or whoever that does go to live would be entertained or want that.
Like, oh, I deserve.
Maybe they start building it up in their mind for several months or several years of like,
I deserve guaranteed contracts too.
It was my point.
But individual sport Twitter was not happy.
It was a miss.
The whole clip was a miss.
I don't think anyone listened to the show more because of it.
I don't think that it did its job.
I don't think that it promoted the show in any way.
I think it made people, you know,
want to burn Borrellas down to the ground.
So I'm speaking of promotion.
We have a huge video coming out.
Oh my God.
Can we play some like music right now,
like an anticipation music?
You got any anticipation music back there, Bush?
Yeah, we can find some.
All right.
So the anticipation music should be playing now.
at this point.
And we have something that we've sat on for over a month now, I believe, which is that
we flew down to Jacksonville, Florida.
We went to Pontevira Beach.
And we went to the site of next week's Players' Championship, the flagship event on
PGA Tour, the one event that gets most considered, most brought up and considered the fifth
major outside of Trent's John Deer Classic.
You could argue.
many, many players say this guy's won, you know, four majors and a players championship.
TBC Sawgrass, the 17th hole, the Ione Green, the whole deal.
We flew down there a month ago.
We played a four-man scramble, so the four-man scramble is back.
Woo!
Lurch back in.
He was asked him the original member of the four-man scramble, so it's myself, Trent, Frankie, and Lurch against Billy fucking horseshoe at TBC Sawgrass.
He lives there, lives in the area.
He practices there all the time.
He has emerged over the last six months as a PGA tour ambassador.
He's had some pretty spicy comments against other players that have gone to live.
We've had spicy comments about him in the past.
We had him on the podcast for the first time last summer.
He began the show by being like, this should be quite interesting, knowing full well what we had said about him.
He's clearly an animated fella.
We've talked about him being animated on the golf course before.
We got some of that in the video.
We got amazing shots.
from him. We got amazing shots from us. We got one of the most iconic moments on 17 that probably
will live in the history of four play. So we've got a fucking banger coming out Wednesday night, 8 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time on the four play YouTube. Can't stress enough how big this is. I mean,
we've been waiting to bring back the four man scramble. Schedulings have been tough. Schedulings have been
tough on their end, on our end. We finally got it all together. This is a major, major video with a top
20 in the planet, on the planet, in the universe, golfer.
Billy Horshull, I think at the time was ranked 17th and it probably went up.
I mean, he's been playing pretty damn well since we played against him right now.
He might be.
Billy Ho is 17th.
No, wait, hold on.
Yeah, he's 20th in the world.
He was 18th at the end of last year.
And I believe when we filmed this video, he was 17th in the world.
Okay.
That makes no sense to me because I feel like he's playing well.
But anyway, Billy Horshaw is everything we wanted him.
to be like in this video he's exactly who billy horschel you is like he the bears are who we thought
they were like that was billy horschall i swear to god you're going to see things of him where you're
like i can't believe they're keeping that in the video but like you have to because that's billy horschall
and like he knows it we know it dr brett mccabe his sports psychologist who we have we know we're
both um patience to the same sports psychologist he knows it everybody knows it that that's how
Billy Horshull runs. He runs hot. He runs fast. He wants to win. He wants to cut your throat out and he wants to make sure that you never have a chance to beat him again because he's a competitor. And that's what we got against us. You're going to be on the edge of your seat watching this guy face us because you know it means a lot to him. He took this as if it was a fucking PGA tour event. He took this as if this was his warm up for the players. That's how intense this was. And what a venue. If you know, TBC Sawgrass is this is the backdrop of the video, which is, you know, one of the most iconic, you know, certainly one of the most iconic. You know, certainly one of the most iconic.
holes in the world on 17. And we addressed again on the first T about the history that we have with him.
And we talked it out a little bit. He is still very aware of the history that we have with him and the
things that we have said. So yeah, Billy Horshiel, four man scramble, TBC Sawgrass. It's coming
your way. Wednesday night. Get excited. I think people are going to love Billy Horshiel after this video.
I think he comes off. You can't not. Incredibly authentic. He's a good, good dude. He's obsessed with golf.
He wanted to help us out with our golf games.
He was like rooting for us while also being a fiercely competitive person
who was demanding a lot out of himself.
And all of that mixed in and kind of presented under the or within the backdrop of TPC Sawgrass,
which is the first four-man scramble that we've done probably since the Kisner one.
We played Pioneer's number two where the venue is as, you know, impressive.
And it's as much about the venue as it is about the matchup.
I mean, we're playing TBC Sawgrass.
You're watching us hit into 17.
We're hitting, you know, trying to hit some of these par fives and two that you've seen a million times before.
So it's fucking awesome.
So that's coming out on our YouTube.
8 p.m.
tomorrow.
It's going to be a premiere.
So if you haven't like seen what we've been doing and what all these other YouTube videos are doing, it's a premiere.
So at 8 p.m, it starts.
And then it's going to be live as if it was like a regular TV program for, I would assume it's going to be close to two hours.
I don't know how long this video is going to end up being.
but make sure that you're there at 8 o'clock because you don't want to miss anything and then sometimes it gets confusing you want to go back and then if you like refresh it hits you at the live time and you don't want to like get spoiled eight o'clock at night make yourself a drink put it on the tv it's always best on tv put it on the tv grab some popcorn and just watch this thing at eight o'clock and if you don't watch it later but i'm just saying i just want everyone to be a part of the premiere we're going to be in the chat we're going to be talking about it this is wednesday night 8 p.m eastern time 5 o'clock
Pacific. What was our record against PJ Tour
pros going into that? I believe we are
3.0 and 1. Maybe 4.0.1.
Is that right? Well, yeah, we had a
I mean, we had a tie. That's an L though. That's an L. We got
to stop calling that a win. That's an
tie. It's not hockey. Nobody, nobody, nobody. We lost in a
playoff, which was like, it was devastating. You guys in your hockey and your
hockey rankings are, are absurd. I like to make jokes about it,
but like we have to say it's a loss because we should have won. We should have won the
playoff. We like, we should have just, we should have won. It should have never got to a lot of regulation
tie. Um, and yeah, you know, I don't know the rules technically on four man scrambles and playoffs. And if we can
really go to them. I know Kisner had told us in the first match that like, there's no way we're doing
a playoff. So I don't know if that was set up. But anyways, Kisner makes all these rules up. Every time we've
played a pro and then told them Kisner's rules, they've like laughed at it. We told Billy Horshiel,
we're like, oh, like, you can probably just like drop one club length.
And as long as it's not in a different type of grass.
And he's like, no, I can't.
I'm just playing the rules of golf.
And you guys are a scramble.
So you get to do whatever you want.
He, we played like legit scramble rules of Billy Horses.
He's like, Kisner wanted you to move a kisner.
Kisner was moving around trees and shit.
He's like, well, if you guys get a club length, I do.
Billy's like, no, you don't.
So Kevin Kisner, we defeated one up on 18.
Yep.
Then we played Joel Davin.
We crushed him.
We beat him.
I think we ended up beating him three.
and two technically, but it was uglier than that.
So we're two and O. Pat Perez,
we defeated one up on 18.
It was all square on the 18th hole.
He had a violent,
360 degree lip out, basically,
on the last hole. Lurch hit it to like a foot.
And we made Bernie to win one up.
Then we played Danielle Kang.
We beat pretty handedly.
I think we beat her three and two or four and three or so.
We played home up.
No, no, no.
Oh, Max Homer.
Yeah, that was our next one, right?
From a PGA pro standpoint.
So, you know, against PGA tour players, I believe we're three and one against all professional
golfers.
I think we're four in one.
And we're coming off a loss.
So we're, you know, oh in one in our last one.
Right.
No, this was good.
You know, we've done a lot of group four-man scrambles, Islanders, the avalanche, Paige
Baranic, Bob de Sports.
we did all these different types of group ones.
It was nice to do the four V one again.
The competition is really there.
I mean,
you just see how fucking good these guys are.
The fact that every single one that we've done,
not including,
well,
I don't want to give away anything with this,
but every single one we've done has been like to the end and close
and like you know that they have a chance.
You would think that four competent golfers could smoke just one golfer,
but these guys are so good at golf.
And TPC sawgrass is not easy.
We played from,
No,
it's not.
We played over.
7,000 yards, didn't we? We played the front of every championship T-box because we couldn't
we couldn't go to the T-box area because it was closed off. We went to the front of every single
championship, the players T-box. So you're going to see us idiots attempt shots that all the pros
will be attempting next week. All right. Top fives are sort of my thing that I've been really hard on
lately that I'm enjoying in the Barstville sports book to get in the betting world. Had to push
this last week essentially had my big Jason Day top five a few weeks ago.
If people recall,
and we talk about a good amount on this show as we should,
we've been red hot in the four of the cut.
And when we miss,
we barely miss.
Barely.
I mean, we are right there.
So all you have to do,
and it's exclusive because they boost it on the Barstool Sports.
But all you got to do is go to the exclusive section,
go to the bet with Barstool,
which is usually on the bottom right.
And then you'll see the four of the cut bet,
which we pick on this show,
we put into the app and then they boost it and then you can do it exclusively on the
Barstall Sportsbook.
If you were betting that puppy, you'd be up, what, 20 units for the year, somewhere around
there?
Yeah, 20 units for the year.
Way up there if you're doing it.
We're just buzzing.
So this week is Bay Hill.
I believe I saw 44 of the top 50 ranked players in the world are playing this week.
The top three ranked players the world are playing this week, which are Scotty
Sheffler, John Rom, and Roy McElroy.
So big names in there.
and Bay Hill
brings it, man.
Think about all those moments
watching Tiger on the 18th hole
hit put after putt,
slamming his hat down.
You get a lot of the,
kind of reminds me a bit of players
coming up next week.
We talk a lot about sawgrass in the show.
Reminds me a bit of sawgrass in the finish
where you've got the 16th hole
is this par 5 where guys hit it in the water.
We see it all the time.
17 is a brutally tough par 3
with that huge bunker that like goes into the pond.
And then 18 is a tough
par four with the whole rock wall and you see all kinds of crazy stuff there too so point being get
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we love the barstful sports book uh big thanks actually a pga tour for a yeah they kind of help set
that whole thing up and invited us down to sawgrass it was really cool you get a lot of that
i'm sure in there we had our own lockers and treated like kings there so it was really cool that
clubhouse is oh my one of the more magnificent you know that was my first time there you guys
had been there before i mean saw grasses i mean i kept saying it looked like augusta that all the caddies are
wearing white outfits and the flags are everywhere.
The green that the fairways are perfectly mowed and all the hills and the way that it
moves around the bunkers and the greens are immaculate.
And then all these fucking structures around the greens to keep them and make them
islands is incredible.
Yeah, the restaurant after the players lounge.
Top five most famous course in the world has to do.
Ooh.
Saw grass, dude.
It's definitely up there.
I'm just saying Augusta.
Yep.
St.
Andrews.
Pebble.
Three.
Those are the three for sure.
Then after that,
I mean,
you know,
you could,
I don't know that Shinnock,
no.
I don't know that any of those
that are very famous,
very famous.
I don't know that any of them
are as famous as Sawgrass
because it's every year.
People get hit with it
every year for a full week.
You get hit with the island green
and the debates about it and the photos
and you have the history and the tiger
and the,
better than most and all the bullshit.
You just get hit with it again and again.
So it's never ranked. I don't think particularly high.
I don't even know if it's in like the top 100 for most people's rankings.
I don't really know.
That's not the debate.
I would say general public awareness.
General public awareness, it's top five.
Has to be.
Because like if you talk about golfers,
you're talking about Shinnecock,
Beth Page, like to the general public like Briggs is saying,
they give the 17th hole.
People see it.
They know what that is all the time.
And when you get like a golf course book or like,
one of those picture books that show all like golf courses sawgrass like the 17th hole is always
on the cover like it's yeah most famous one um yeah yeah knowledge public knowledge it's got to be a top
five golf course top five most famous golf course in the world how would you how far would you
put t bc scottesdale up there if if this is the criteria you know the name you think they know
like tpc scottesdale or do you think they just call it the waste management yeah i would
think they might point to it and say waste management like if you just
walk down the street in Manhattan and you talk to over the course of a week, you talked to 500
people. You showed them pictures of like 15 that we think are the top 15 most famous like
golf courses in the world. I think people would nail TBC sawgrass and like 17 in the players.
I think they would nail that at a way higher rate than they would they would nail TBC Scottsdale.
I think Frankie's right. I think they'd go like, oh, is that waste management? But I still don't even
think they would do that to the same degree. They would do like sawgrass players championship.
17th hole. They would just know that. On a white like on a billboard, if you had all those
pictures and you just show the general public and you showed 17 and 16 next to each other, 16 at the
waste management 17 at sawgrass, I think with recency bias, a lot of people will know what 16 is.
If you showed that like an aerial shot of that green, but they will say like that's the waste management.
And I think a lot of people would. But sawgrass just has so much more history and so.
So much.
17 is in the video games and it's just,
it's always been there.
I mean,
our generation just like is obsessed with 17 because of the video games.
Yeah,
I think,
I think it's a no-brainer.
I think it's a top five golf course in the world.
Famous.
I think so too.
Famous,
famous.
And I agree,
like people would know,
people would know the event of TBC Scottsdale.
They would know the event.
But I don't like the tournament in like,
its stature and the golf course itself.
I just think,
people would know saw grass i mean what's number four like it might be number i mean number five i mean
i don't even think like bay hill yeah like honestly it might be a more of a tv course that it is like a
high ranking course review you know oh uh tory pines hmm i still don't know i don't think so dude no
i think tiger made tory pines he's done this with a lot of places but that people know that place
because of 2008 do people like do people know cyprus more than that because of the
picture of like the 16th hole at cypress do general public i don't think so i don't
do people know wingfoot more because of like phil's collapsed there and it's a u.s open so
frequently do they know oakmont more like i don't know i think those are all close i think you can
make a good argument for all of them i think it's an argument between wingfoot and tory
okay that would be my yeah i'm even going through like i just looked up the top of hundred
courses in the world.
And dude, you don't get, after you get past those three, none of these stick out.
Like, you could argue Karnooski, because it's so frequently like in the OBAA championship.
You could argue Oakmont.
I think those are all kind of in the same bucket.
But I think you kind of got a no golf to know those.
Yep.
They're come top of mind.
And I just feel like.
Tori Pines.
Public up there for sure.
But dude, Tori's, yeah, because it's on the PGA tour every year.
And they've had, they've had a couple of U.S. Open.
now.
That picture behind Frankie is from Tori.
Right.
Isn't the bottom one?
Isn't that when he made it at
at Tori against...
He's not big enough on my screen.
I can't right now.
I think it is.
That's the putt.
I don't make him bigger on my screen.
I was going to bring it over to you,
but I don't want to risk...
I don't want to risk ruining it.
Yeah, you got to redo that whole wall.
We can't risk that.
Yeah, that is.
Yeah, oh my God.
We weren't even close.
Nobody even kept it on the green, I don't think.
Yeah, dude, I'm looking at all these.
It's not even fucking close.
The fifth, I don't think is, I think the top four blow away the rest of the options.
Yeah, there's a big drop off after the four.
Augusta Pebble, St. Andrews, Sawgrass.
I honestly think that.
And again, it's crazy because those first three are considered, you know, by a lot of folks to be these fantastic.
And you can even get golf purists to be like these, you know, architect.
textually sound in some of the greatest courses in the world.
And sawgrass, I don't think is considered that by a lot of these people, but I think it's
clearly far and away of those four.
And maybe somebody will tweet one on us that we're forgetting.
I think Piner's is getting up there for sure, but I still don't think it has like that.
It doesn't, you know, it's got the North Carolina look in general, but it doesn't have,
like Pebbles got the cliff.
St.
Andrews has the town of St.
St. Andrews and the Swelkin Bridge and all that.
Augusta has fucking Augusta and Amy and Quarter knows that.
Sawgrass has the island tree.
I don't know the Pioneers number two has like a distinct enough thing yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Payne Stewart thing,
but that's again like,
Pain Stewart for sure.
It's up there,
but I still think if you just showed people picture,
they wouldn't necessarily be like,
very golfy.
You got to be.
Yeah.
It's not even close to the level of like 17 at sawgrass.
People were like,
I know that.
I've seen that.
Better than most.
We should do this in the office.
Like,
we should walk around the office with like a poster.
board of all these photos and say what like rank the like how would you do it would you go one
verse one like would you like would you eliminate them one by v one or would you have them rank like what
it is or would you have them like i wouldn't even bring pictures i would go to 15 people in the office
that are just by theory generic sports fans and be like top five most famous golf courses in the
world in your opinion and just see if they what they come up with yeah i like that we should do that
we should also start that video with this clip so alex there's a
fucking real promotion for you instead of sewering me in this fucking that's what i was planning on doing
actually i i i want i'll be curious yeah i don't even know if people could come up with the fifth
like a lot of people might not even have a fifth i honestly dude i think it depending on who you ask i don't
know how many people will even come up with four like i you think there i think you'll get a lot of
the three i don't i think yeah like we're talking about top five but if you look at it really i think
the top three and then there is a drop off there even four and then there's a drop off there even four and
then there's a huge drop off after four you think like clemers saying st.
Andrews you think like random people yeah he's a big sports fan yeah yeah I'm just saying a big
sports fan you know obviously knows a lot about but you think they're thinking like that's the most
famous golf course it's going to be interesting they're definitely going to get augusta for sure
definitely going to get pebble and they're definitely going to get pebble yeah I think the top three
they can those two are locks I think yeah you think like ria and fran know the top five
no but i bet fran might know i bet fran knows fran like scald she'll come up with she might have a similar
list i bet she gets the top four that'd be my guess we're gonna do this i just have no idea if she's
like into golf at all i have no clue we have our guys in the office they can walk around they can
ask the questions just like vivalestool does on the instagram we can just get the answer what's your
top five most famous golf courses in the world bang smitty'll say some fucking mini golf course
avalon oh yeah he's gonna say the pirate course at avalon sees or whatever
Well, you are going to get a lot of people who are just going to go to the golf course that they know near their house because some people aren't going to know any golf course.
They're going to be like, oh, down the street, you know, whatever.
How many people do we want?
What's the sample size?
We'll say like seven to ten people.
Ten people.
Try to get to ten.
We're trying to see if they say sawgrass.
That's what this is.
We're trying to get them to say sawgrass.
That's like what we think should be in the top.
I don't know who's going to say so much.
I don't think a ton of people are not saying to say it, but I think it'll be said more than any other course.
I need.
I don't know if I don't think.
Oh, I'm going to be in the office.
So maybe I'll help do this today tomorrow tomorrow.
And I definitely want to ask Brandon Walker because that would be a very interesting test.
Because he's like a sports fan.
I think he'll come up with him.
There's people listening to this right now that are like screaming their opinions.
Like you know what I mean?
That's great.
I wonder what.
courses you guys are coming up with. It's funny. Like, I think if you live in California or something,
right, you're probably hardcore like Torrey Pines or Cyprus even or like whatever. I think if you live in
the northeast, you know, you're way more likely to be like a wing foot or a or a Shinnock or a Beth
Page Black or, you know, if you live anywhere near like the sort of like Ohio or Pittsburgh or
Pennsylvania, you might, you're Oakmont or you know what I'm saying? Like I think it's going to be a little
more regional. Let's right now get the wording of the question down because that's very important.
Is it what are the five most famous golf courses in the world?
Yeah, I would say most famous.
Yeah.
And we have to like bold, famous.
Yeah.
Most famous.
Top five most famous golf courses in the world.
Yep.
That's the question.
People are definitely, I don't know.
I guess we'll just see.
Well, we'll go on the outdoors.
I think St. Andrews is,
makes three, top three a lock,
but in America,
that's the only reason I say it's clearly number three
because I just think people won't be thinking like golfers.
You're going to have Australia,
the Royal Melbourne.
It's like it's just,
it's going to be hard.
People are going to come up with that.
No way.
No way.
That'll be cool.
That'll be a cool thing to see what you're saying.
Isn't it amazing how many non,
like,
and aren't the US,
the US,
GA is trying to get to this, right?
Where they just keep going to the same courses to create more pebbles and to create more Augustas, where it's like, it's an automatic, you know that course because it's just on TV every four years and it's the biggest tournament.
I will say another thing that helps some of these courses is rider cups.
Rider cups become like the course becomes a big, big part.
Whistling Straits is becoming super famous.
Like all these places become famous because they're so like people love those events.
Yeah.
And I bet there's analytics behind.
this decision that shows people's interest is higher, eyeballs are higher when it's a course
that people know.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Because the USDA for a while was doing for the last decade, they were doing the Aaron Hills,
Chambers Bay.
They would throw these new places in quite a bit.
And I would assume, again, that their analytics from that have probably shown like,
we need to go to places that people fucking know because of the right.
Cup's doing the same thing.
It's like they go back to like Hazleton.
They go back to places way quicker than you think they would go back to because there's
so many fucking courses.
They only get one every four years in America for a writer cup.
It drives people crazy a lot.
But it's like I think they probably have numbers that just say if an average sports
fans like, oh, they're playing at that place.
I know that place.
I know that stretch.
I'm more interested and I'm going to watch it.
I think that's, that has to be.
That has to be delivering more numbers.
That's why we played bill at Sawgrass.
Such a good video.
Right. Speaking of the
Speaker, speaking of the
Rider Cup back on U.S.
soil, Bethpage, that's going to be 2025
now because of it got pushed
back a year, right? It was originally supposed to be 2024.
I went to, yeah,
I was there the other day. I went to this like
wedding food tasting thing and you had to like
go eat like what we're going to like have.
It was fucking awesome. I wish like
every meal could be like that where you have like 19
different amazing meals and you get to choose
which one you're going to end up picking.
But I'm starting to see already
a lot of Rider Cup
like logos and shit.
It's amazing how early
they start to like let you know
like this massive event is coming here.
I don't even think I'm prepared for that.
Like a Rider Cup in New York
at Bethpage is going to be so
off the wall psychotic.
I don't know that any of us are going to be able to prepare for that.
No, that's, it's hard to think about because when the
US Open is here, it's nuts.
When the fucking Barclays was here,
it was at a,
control when the PJ Championship was here we couldn't even like walk around like me and Riggs walking up 18 with Brooks was like the craziest thing I've ever seen with my own eyes like there was a million people around that 18th goal think about that with the Ryder Cup man like European fans coming in here by the boatloads like just taking up long island it's going to be like is Borelli's going to be so mean is Borelli's going to be filled with like Italians like real Italians and like fucking Brits and shit and they're going to be like we're going to turn to a pub is it going to be like the
Borelli's pub. I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be a scene. And, and hopefully by then it's,
because the rider cup's in a weird place right now with the, uh, lived affections. Like this last week,
Sergio and Roy were going at it in, in the public eye. Roy or Sergio Colin Rory immature,
which is just, I know the, the most classic case of projection that you've ever seen. But like,
hopefully by the time that the Beth page writer cup rolls around, it's just back to like,
let's talk about the writer come. I think it'll, it'll be that way. They have to figure it out.
But right now it's just, it's in a weird place with who can play.
Hendrik Stenson, like all this stuff.
It just made it kind of weird this one coming up.
If they don't figure that out, it's the, it's the biggest missing golf history.
Like you have a New York USA Ryder Cup.
I really do.
You have to.
I mean, yeah, you have to.
Well, I mean, they're played in all the majors now.
So it would be this year.
Right.
If ever, it would be this year because it's European, it's European tour, DEP World Tour.
that the ball is in their court.
Whenever it's in Europe,
they run the show.
Whenever it's in America,
PG of America runs the show.
It's in their best interest
because their team has been decimated
by the live defections,
as they call them,
and they're coming off one of the worst losses
in the history of the European Ritika.
They got fucking doubled up.
So they,
I think,
of all things,
if there's ever going to be a time
to like put the flag down and be like,
we just have to have them in it.
I think it's now,
because in two years time or two and a half years time when it's at beth page and it's pg of america's
call like they're not going to be as hard pressed to do it and make sure you have these talented
guys in there whereas the european squad they need to fucking do it so i think of anything i think
they're going to allow them to play i really but what happens with the players relationships
like rory is going to be like how is he going to just play with these guys true that's a good
that's a good point right it's going to be awkward with rory and sergio how does rory and sergio
call them fucking immature.
But it's not even about that.
It's about like the public perception of like how each person feels about their league
that they're now associated with.
Like if Rory goes to Italy, which is coming up and plays with Sergio Garcia and like hugs
him like is live versus BGA tour just like squashed?
Is the beef squashed?
Is everything that they've ever argued about mean nothing?
Are they now just like best friends like all rooting?
But it's so weird to me because it doesn't have to necessarily be personal.
right it's a professional disagreement that they're having and that was john rome's point of like we're
disagreeing about stuff professionally but like i still love these guys they're still my friends i don't hold it
against well rory rory's taking stance it's weird that rory right rory and tiger tiger came out and said
that the fucking champion's dinner at the masters is now going to be awkward which that's like
amazing to me that that but i get it because they sued him back and i think that's where we've
seen sort of people go over the edge is like when live guys sued us to try to get into the torch championship
It's like, fuck you.
But it's a little, I don't know if ignorance that I were to think about it as just a business relationship.
When it obviously spills over with the Tiger and the Roy stuff, Sergio calling Rory immature.
Like those feelings are definitely hurt on more than just an emotional or just a professional level.
So I don't know.
It'll be very interesting.
And you would think maybe at the end of the day, the Rory and the Rory and Sergio thing,
like, you know, we're playing for our country.
We're playing, like it's played maybe something bigger than these stupid little disagreements.
That's really up to the guys, uh, themselves to decide.
And the crazy part too is I feel like when somebody makes that comment like Sergio did,
where he could it's like those comments are more driven because they're asked, right?
Like they're asked about it.
And it's like they give an answer.
And that answer then is highlighted.
But it's just seems so crazy to me.
And maybe it's like a, uh, uh,
epitome of a lot of what's going around our entire country with like people can't disagree
with on stuff without it being incredibly personal and somehow that's not somehow I guess clearly
that's occurring a lot in like live versus PGA tour thing where it's like I I loved when
Ron spoke about it because he spoke about it. I feel like like most people should approach it of
like I disagree with a lot of the things that they've done. I wouldn't go myself. I don't hold it
against anybody personally that has gone.
And we could disagree on stuff and still be great friends just like we were an hour
before we disagreed.
And so I think I wish people had that approach to things.
And it feels like, it feels hopefully like they'll get to that point between now and
September so that they could play together.
Because, dude, if they don't, the European Rider Cup team, after they're like four or five guys has,
he's going to have nobody.
Nobody's.
I mean, nobody.
And how many players are on each squad?
Fucking 12.
12.
So they're going to have to fill up a lot of no names.
So here's the answer from Kirk.
I texted Kirk Minahan, who great pick for him last week.
It wasn't the most bold pick of all time,
but he picked Chris Kirk plus 138 to finish in the top 20,
and he won the tournament.
So Kirk's back on his golf picks.
It is an insane.
same name to come up with the guy ends
of winning. Chris Kirk.
Dude, he's done that multiple weeks this year.
That's like three out of four weeks in a row
that this guy has picked a random
ass name that the guy's been in the mix.
Like, picking one guy
to just be at the top of the leaderboard
is preposterously hard.
To have the guy win three times
is like not to be believed.
Kirk is on that stuff.
Like Kirk out,
he sneaky has no
life. And what he does is he just spends the day, like looking at results in, you know,
the Honda Classic last week for certain players over years. And then he looks at like this certain
players progression over the last like several months and weeks and does that, I think for a lot
of players. So when people call it at randomly ask him like, oh, Kirk, you got a pick for this week,
he fucking knows because that's what he does. He looks at that shit. And so it seems so random.
But dude, he gave us Jason Day top five. That was a week after Pebble.
when he gave two names, Justin Rose and Denny McCarthy,
who were at one point tied for the lead.
And obviously, Justin Rose won.
Then last week he got roasted because he picked Patrick Rogers,
whatever he ended up not playing particularly well.
And then this week, he goes with Chris Kirk top 20 as his go-to pick
and the guy wins the fucking tournament.
So, like, people need to pay attention to Kirk.
I don't mean that as a sled.
I mean, Kirk, this is what he does.
He like read shit all day every day.
Like, he loves this stuff.
So he knows what he's talking about.
I think he and I are going to do a golf gambling show of some sort.
It's very funny when we talk about it because like we're not,
like in nowhere are we going to do something that's relatively serious.
But he's very serious when it comes to being good at picking golf picks.
So how we do that dichotomy?
I don't fucking know.
But we are going to do something of a show together because he is, he is,
he's no joke when it comes to this.
He fucking knows what he's talking about and his picks hitting.
It's not random.
But anyways, his answer to it was, I said top five most famous golf course in the world.
He goes, St. Andrews Augusta locks.
And then he goes, I go pebble.
I think the top three are non-discussion.
He goes, pebble, yes.
And then he goes, I'd actually say sawgrass now for sure, not the best, most famous.
And then he said wing foot.
Okay.
That's, dude, that's a perfect sample of what we were talking about before.
The fifth was between wingfoot and Tori, and he went with wingfoot.
He came up with sawgrass for the reasons that we said.
it's now just up there. It's a famous golf course because of the 17th hole and all the history.
That was a perfect first answer for us.
Perfect first answer. Pretty much exactly what we just said.
So yeah, his top five are the top three or no-brainer, St. Andrews, Augusta Pable.
Then he goes sawgrass. Then he goes wing foot, which is that bucket of another 10 courses
or so that you could throw in there. That are the Oak Mott's wingfoot, Shinnock, maybe a Cyprus.
You get a Carnusti and some of the Open Championship Rota courses are in there.
sure but I think those top four I think they're going to prevail fellas you want to guess what
my recovery number was this morning um 73 did you go out last night keep what I was going to say
keep in mind it's a Monday morning Sunday is a recovery day so you know it'd be a little different
if this were a Sunday morning or a Saturday morning it's in 89 do you nail it he nailed it
89 percent you look like an 89 percent right now yeah that's great
All right.
That's how good.
82% from Trent Daddy.
Yeah.
That's just how you know I could see an 89 on your face.
That's how legit it is.
Yeah, I have a 89% energy kind of coming off.
That's right.
Yeah.
The amazing part is I only had five hours of 47 minutes of sleep, but I will say it was a little bit tricky because I passed out last night.
It was like one of those, you know, Sunday.
I spoke about it.
I was watching all the Saudi Arabia puff pieces that were coming in from different
sports. I was watching the Honda Classic wrap up. And by time, you know, on this west coast that
we're at over here in Scottsdale, where we're a couple hours behind, it's like six or seven
o'clock. The new episode of Last of Us came out. I was ready to wrap it up. So I jumped in
bed through on a show, fell asleep pretty quickly. So I got like an hour and a half a nap time in,
really. Yeah. And then slept until or then was up till like midnight and then woke up to do the
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Speaking of the Barstall Sportsbook,
Dan's not here to take his licking,
but he deserves it because he sent one of the most preposterous text messages
to our group last week that I've ever seen.
So our picks last week were Bazaden Hoot,
Zach Johnson, Buckley, and then I had Webb Simpson.
And after the first one,
round. I think Webb Simpson was like one over and then Buckley was one under and the other two guys,
Zach Johnson and Bazaden Hoot were even better than that. I think three or four under, so they're
looking really good. But before guys even teed off on Friday, Dan sends a text message to our entire
group that says the three guys, so he picked Buckley. He says Buckley, ZJ and Bazadenhoot are looking good.
it's going to come down to Weber.
Well, his guy, Buckley goes out and shoots seven over 77,
misses the cut by a billion and Webb Simpson makes it in.
Now, it would be one thing if it was like there's only two holes left and Buckley made like seven.
He can't even fucking teed off yet.
Too early, man.
Two strokes inside the cut line.
So all he's got to do is shoot a 72, 73 and he misses the cut.
So for him to send that, anybody in the gambling world knows you cannot send a message like that.
That's, I think people overdo it with saying you mushed it.
That was a crazy move.
That would drive people.
I mean, that'll ruin somebody's month.
Yeah, he mushed it.
He mushed it for everyone that took the four-the-cut bet.
Dan Rappaport mused that bet for sure.
It's almost-77 the guy shot.
Yeah, he said, we're all good.
It only comes down to Webb Simpson.
He goes, ZJ, Bez Buckley, in good shape, going to come down to Weber.
He didn't say it might come down to Webb Simpson.
He said definitively going to come down to Weber.
That's a miss.
I mean, I feel, I feel relieved, though.
It's always one a week.
It's never three.
It's never two.
It's always one.
I had Alex Norton and his ball flight a couple weeks ago.
My Zach Johnson pick went really well.
He was near the top of Learboard for a while.
He was.
And Hayden Buckley just went out there on Friday and shot a 77 and we all ejected from
again.
I don't think I've picked a loser yet.
I think you and Riggs and Frankie are maybe bat in a thousand.
I don't know if I have either.
Maybe once, but I don't think so.
I think I had picked a winner every time.
And you and I haven't gone bold.
Like we haven't picked the favorites.
We're picking pretty wild choice.
I think I had a homo one week.
But other than that,
it's been guys that are kind of in the middle of the pack.
Did you know?
I was looking up while you were talking earlier, Frankie.
And the reason you were thinking like,
oh, I thought Billy Horsrell was playing really well.
Dude, he opened with a 65 at the Honda and then finished.
T-42.
So he like, he, you know, he was probably at the top of the leaderboarder right up there at a
good point on Thursday.
He's only played, obviously, a few events so far.
And he made the cut of waste management.
Made the cut at Phoenix Open.
Dude, he went 72, 69, 69.
Yeah.
And so he was right there.
And then he shot a 70 on in the final round.
So he didn't go like particularly low.
But he was right there because he remember scores were a little bit high for a while there
after the Thursday round because the wind was so severe.
So he was playing well there too.
So it's like he was up there at times.
He missed the cut in Sony.
He missed the cut of the Genesis.
But he had a top at the, in the fall, too, he was playing well.
He had a tied for seven to the CJ Cup.
He had another top 10 in there.
So he's definitely been playing well.
That's how you get the top 20 in the world.
He obviously won last year.
So anyways.
Did your Shane Lowry top five fit?
I know he was T5.
Does that still count?
I got fucked.
No.
rule it's so stupid i got money but what they do is which is so unbelievably dumb and people
were tweeting at me that we need to protest because they hate this rule which of my opinion is dumb
because you know the rule going in so it's not like you're getting duped like if you're right
you know whatever but yeah somebody if he so he tied for fifth with five other people so my
winnings get divided by five really so i ended up breaking even is basically what ended up happening
that's really interesting i didn't know that that was i had heard because when we bet on you bet
a top five a couple weeks ago. Maybe it was, uh, Jay Day when he just got in there at the, I don't remember
what it was solo fifth. It was John, or John Day. It was Jason Day. Yeah. Um, that's really interesting that they,
that they, that they split it up that way. That's because that would, I mean, that would have been a
interesting, Trent. It's fucking dog shit. As an outsider, I find that I find a particular
interesting. I can imagine it's pretty devastating. I had a, I had a moment that things were
stacking up yesterday where Dave Portnoy gave me a lock in Jake Paul to,
win. So I was like, okay, I'm going to hammer that because at the time, Shane Lowry was like tied
for fourth as well. And that was going to be a four to one payday on a good amount of money that I put
on that. So I was looking at those two things both coming in, both came in one pushed instead of being
a four to one win. And the other one was just a huge L. So I had a big swing of midday. I said,
I'm going to be rich tonight. Like, let's go. At steak dinner, we'll go somewhere great.
To like, I've lost a bunch of money today. So a little bit of a shame. So are,
Are we going to do the four that cut the bet now?
We might have to text Dan and be like,
what's your pick?
Because he's not on the show.
I got Dan's pick.
Okay.
He said, I can't handle three weeks in a row where my guy is the only guy that is missed.
So I'm going with Xander Schaughley.
Wow.
A little bit gutless, but that's fine.
Be real tough if he misses now.
That's like you kind of put in yourself, putting yourself up there.
So we've got the Arnold Palmer Invitational this week.
This is the Arnold Palmer.
I have my choice. So I'll go ahead while you guys were looking it up.
So we've got Xander Shafley has come in from Dan Rapporte. Remindered to folks that you're up a good, what, 15 plus units this year if you've been betting this every time.
21 or plus.
You know, hand up.
We're hitting a little bit of a slide here, but we're going to keep trying.
We're going to keep throwing.
But we're right there.
It's like a hockey team.
We're getting pucks on net.
At some point, they're just going to find the back of the net.
It's not like we're getting blown out.
row. That's with two losses
in a row that we are still got
you up. We're in the locker room.
We're like, boys, we're there.
Like, let's just, we don't change our game. We're not changing our game.
Nope. In a seven game series, we'll take
down anybody with this game. Anybody.
So that's fine. I'm going to
go with a former stable
mate of Trent Ryan.
Wow. A man
who's been playing particularly
well over the last
three or four months, I would
say. He's got a top 20 at the
Genesis finished tied for 10th at the Phoenix Open tied for 11th the farmer's insurance he had a T2 at
the zozo last fall in October I'm gonna go with Ricky Fowler is my pick this week okay you're gonna
all right no I would I would not move against it but I'm gonna root against you know I'm rooting
for the four the cup bet that doesn't that'll never remember former stablemate of Trent Ryan playing
well all right so I've got mine and lately just like my past picks I don't really have a reason why
I mean, I saw Alex Noren's ball flight at TBC Scottsdale.
But outside of that, I just kind of,
just last week was Zach Johnson.
He played, he played well.
And this week, I'm going to go with Cameron Young.
I don't have any reason why.
I just looked up.
He finished top 20 at Riviera, you know, but he's my pick.
Cam Young is is my pick for the four the cut this week.
Eeyore?
Oh, another birdie.
What's your pick, Frankie?
I'm going with, I'm going with a little fella.
I'm going with a guy
lower to the ground with good with good gravity.
I'm going with Brian Harmon.
Love it. I'm going with the guy that's hard to tackle.
You know what I mean? The guy kind of slips through corners.
Red Rover, Red Rover legend.
Yes, Red Rover, Red Rover legend.
This guy can get into any sort of,
he can get into any sort of opening.
You know what I mean?
Like if it's a small little crack inside the door,
he's getting through it.
Brian Harmon is low to the ground.
He's going to be low on the score card.
I love Brian Harmon.
Ryan Harmon to make the cut this week.
I have no other reason as to
as to why I picked this, but for the fact
that he is shorter than most people.
Okay.
That's a fact.
And those guys, hey, I like, I seem to
like those guys in sports.
Like all my, the flashy guys in hockey
seem to be smaller. Like, I enjoy
watching the guys because
I'm not a big guy myself. I'm skinny.
I'm rail. I'm fat in the wrong places.
I like to watch the guys that like
are against the odds. I hate these adonises.
these Giannises and all these guys that are fucking carved from from the gods.
Fuck that.
He's a lefty like you too.
He's a lefty.
He's smooth.
Okay.
All right.
He's coming off a cut, T-42, T-32 T-16.
So that's good.
We get some odds.
I mean,
I got,
we're just assuming they're all going to make the cuts.
That's fine.
That's great.
So that is for the cut,
Bay Hill,
Barstle Sportsbook.
Make sure you get in.
I do have a new submission.
I have a couple new submissions.
here. But Brock Nelson from the New York Islanders, pure goal score. I mean, the guy scores every single night.
If you look at his fucking points per game, it's absurd in the last like 20 games. He got scored
every night. His goal last night made me legitimately like weep out of my penis. But top five most
famous first time I've ever used that term, by the way. That was nuts. I kind of like that.
I love it. It made me feel something to weep out of my penis. All right. So you pose the top five most
famous golf courses. And I put famous in all caps. Okay.
Really hit home like this is not your best. And I love this.
Number one, Pebble. Yep. Number two, St. Andres. Number three, Augusta. Okay. Number four,
Chenecock. Okay. Number five, he put a question mark. So, I mean, that's a long island guy.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But like big time dock here. But what we're seeing, and that's a good one,
Kirk is, I mean, Kirk's a big golf hit.
Brock Nelson likes to play golf.
I don't know necessarily how huge big of a golf fan he is.
So like the question mark on five is kind of what we talked about.
There's that big drop off after four.
Now we thought that he saw grass on Shinnecock.
But still, it's a big, big drop off after the fourth one.
My buddy Tom that we've golf with.
Love Tom.
We love Tom.
Good guy.
He plays once a year, shoots a 75.
It's just wasted town.
You wouldn't believe how good he is.
What the fuck.
How little he plays.
When I
He has 180 ball speed
He hits 330 yards carry
It's like he hits the ball further than Tiger Woods
It's absurd
When I play with him for the first time
He was just ripping it up
And I was like damn how often do you play
And he was like I haven't played in 10 months
And I was like what the fuck
Joey La Cove is like that kid's got game
Like watching him on the range
This kid pumps the golf ball
He said St. Andrews Augusta Pebble Karnusti
And then said he might throw in Bethpage Black
Okay
So it's funny how regional it is like that's fucking it it's just like a guy that's a long
I one guy that's that page black. I mean I know brocks from Minnesota but it's like he's plays
long island golf and he's like he's like shinnika. This is just I like carnusty in there for sure.
But I yeah. Yeah. I mean those all make sense as like a rotational fifth in my opinion.
You could throw in any like frequent major championship rhoda type course. And I think
think it gets mentioned a lot.
All right.
Those are two good submissions as well.
And then a lot of guys are saying Torrey Pines.
I sent it to a group of 10 guys.
It was all the same.
So right now we know it's Augusta, it's, it's Pebble, and it's, St.
Andrews.
St. Andrews.
Those are a lock with every single person you ask.
It's four or five where we are getting a lot of saw grasses.
We're also getting no saw grasses.
So I don't know.
Here's the other thing is I think if you then said sawgrass question mark,
I think everyone would then go like,
oh fucking sawgrass but yeah it's not that's not that's not the game that's not the game
that's not the game it's not the game kirk came up with it but i honestly don't know that i would have
come up with it pre like if you would just be hit me with this question a year ago and we weren't
talking about it and it wasn't top of mind i don't know that i would have come up with sawgrass
but i think right afterwards once you said like here's the most frequent 15 answers i would have been
like, oh, fucking sawgrass is up there.
If Torrey Pines were a stock with the answer in this game, I would be putting all my money on
Tori Pines.
I think people know Tori Pines and they really like Tori Pines.
Are you putting your stock in sawgrass?
Mine's staying in sawgrass.
I bought sawgrass kind of middle of the road and I just still think it's going to be steady.
It's not going to get an amazing return like maybe a Tori might at this point in the in the proceedings.
but I just think sawgrass is a steady riser right now.
It's close.
I think sawgrass has a leg up, but Tori is right there after zone.
For me.
Tori is chopping at the bit.
That's true.
Tori's got some momentum.
Tori's huge.
That tiger moment, I mean, it's obvious, but that was,
that put that thing in a different tier.
Chris Kirk, shout to Chris Kirk.
I know I mentioned it in the Marshall's Sports book and the betting stuff,
But a big win against Eric Cole, who's a 34-year-old rookie, who his story and his family.
It was very fun to watch.
I was tuning into the whole thing yesterday, mostly because I had my Lowry top five thing.
And I had the whole, you know, I was just so pumped for the kingdom of Saudi Arabia with all the different sports they had going on.
So I was tuned into my television.
And I watched this whole back nine.
It was a hell of the back and forth between the guys.
It's very cliched, sort of it's very tough to just win a golf tournament type thing.
Chris Kirk hits it in the water on the 72nd hole,
which people are just like,
what the hell are you doing?
It hit the wall,
almost hit the Honda car.
People were going nuts about that.
He ends up getting the win in the playoff anyway.
So good for him.
First time in eight years,
he had the alcoholism thing,
which he spoke about.
He's been sober now for a long time,
how that kind of saved his life.
So quite the inspirational story with that,
how emotional the whole thing was.
Pretty damn fun finish to watch
for a tournament that everyone was.
was talking about how shitty it was, how shitty the field was.
All the Livbot accounts were like tweeting out screenshots from Thursday at 7 a.m.
of the Honda classic grandstands with nobody in them.
So they're trying to like shit on the tournament.
Honda's now not going to be the sponsor going forward.
So all those are pretty negative headlines about the tournament.
And I thought it had a fantastic finish.
So it was very, very riveting and fun to watch.
Anytime somebody hits at the water on the 72nd hole with a with a one-shot lead,
you're going to be like, holy shit.
And then it led to Cole, who hit probably his worst chip of the week where he almost, I don't know if he hit it a little bit thin or what it was.
But he was in position A after two shots, just left of that huge 18th green water's all right where Chris Kirk hit it.
And then he chipped it off the green.
It's a fast chip and all that, but he chipped it off the green.
So it just shows you in those situations, no matter who you are,
about how good your golf swing is, no matter how you've been playing.
And you've been playing better than these other 150 guys that are world-class golfers all week.
It comes down to the 70-second hole.
guys hit bad shots that's just golf for you so it was very fun to watch big win for chris kirk
um here col felt like we'll get uh we'll see a lot more from him he felt he looked like he was
meant to be there um for a guy that's a 34 year old rookie and you'd be like this guy's probably
had so many lows i thought about alister a lot of like this guy's whatever seven years older than
alster and here he is just now finally a rookie on the pGA tour so he's grinded through it probably
had so many times where he's doubtful he's like i should hang out of
I'm up. Caddian, should I do something different?
Here he is as a rookie on BGA tour at the Honda Classic coming down the stretch
and he hit the ball really fucking well and played well.
So it was fun to watch.
Great tournament at the Honda.
All things considered.
I believe one of us is an avid Peloton.
Well, not avid.
A occasional, perhaps desiring to be avid user of the Peloton.
I use Peloton.
I'll get you there.
Is that a more inaccurate way to say?
I use Peloton.
I do.
I have streaks going.
I'm doing a weekly.
I do a lot of the classes now, full body strength classes.
I got resistance bands the other day.
I just ordered those off Amazon.
So I'm doing a lot more.
I'm trying to stay active, play a lot of pickleball.
But yes, the Peloton is a very, very fun way to be able to just get your heart rate up.
It makes you sweat.
It makes you go.
I've been joining a lot of like the live classes where you can actually see people in the class in the screen.
And you can kind of like pinpoint people that you just want to beat.
Like you're like actually seeing them.
struggle or like beat you and they're like pedaling faster and that's been motivating me.
I always choose based off of like the music and and what kind of and like the time length.
But I really don't get into like what kind of like I have I'll go in a million different
instructors. I don't pick like one instructor or another. I go based off music. I like the 90s rock.
I like classic rock. I like hip hop. So if I see a good class if I see a good class that has my music
taste, I'm in there. And I like doing it, man. It's a lot of fun. It just gets you going. And then you get
right into a cold shower after. It just feels really good. It's hard to stick to a workout. Everybody
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that link is one peloton dot com slash home dash trial i saw live myacoba registered a point two on the
cw with the tv viewership rating i don't know i i was trying to find it before i came on here
I don't know what that equates to.
Clearly, they decided to launch their season during a weak field Honda Classic week.
But it registered a point two on CW.
Again, I don't know what that is, but I don't think it's probably what they want.
Dude, because we were sitting in the office of the day and we had it on the screen, the first round,
Myakoba.
And it's so boring to watch.
And like I also don't like the 24-hour type, like, leaderboard thing because you're looking at guys that are in,
like 18th and you're just staring at them the whole entire six hours of coverage,
whatever it is.
Like who cares about those guys?
It makes no sense.
Like I don't know why you have to see every single guy's score.
But when we were looking at the leaderboard, I'm like, man, there's just some good golfers
playing golf right now.
Big games.
There were big names at the top.
It was like, it was stunning to see.
It was like Cam Smith and fucking Bryson DeChanbo and Brooks Keppka.
You're like, holy, Justin Johnson.
You're like, holy fuck.
Like these guys, these guys are, this would be.
this would be a massive PGA tour leaderboard massive.
So it was interesting, but like no one can sit there and watch it.
I don't like the shotgun start.
It's just not going to work for me.
I can't figure it out.
They tell you how many holes are left to play, but the guy's on six and the guy's on nine,
it just makes no sense.
I can't wrap my head around it and I don't think people are going to be able to.
They have to figure out something else.
Yeah, and those guys that we saw early on, like who ended up with it?
Charles Howell?
Yeah.
Is that right?
Just tough.
Yeah, I don't think any of the big names really competed.
I don't know how, I just don't really know how it works on a team level.
But yeah, if those guys don't perform the top guys, it becomes a very barren leaderboard in terms of needle movers.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I didn't actively watch it all.
It was on at Epic Greyhawk.
I sat in there after a round and had a beer and a little late lunch and it was on.
So we were like just looking at it, no sound or anything like that.
No one was really watching it.
Nobody was particularly riveted by it.
I'm with you.
I don't really know what's going on when I look at it even.
It seems confusing.
You know, how many holes they're through and where it just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean, you, you, you just generally hope that it would.
The articles that I'm pulling up, it says live golf TV debut woes laid bare as more people watch world's funniest
animal show says live golf's ongoing failure to capture a live audience was made painfully clear amid
disastrous TV ratings during the first event of the season.
Now, you're right, Trent.
I don't know how the point two equates to one thing I saw on Twitter, I think said like
360,000 viewers.
I don't know how that equates to like Honda Classic viewers or what I think would be more
probably fair would be they're doing what, 14 events this year on Live and they're doing
a similar number of like elevated events or designated events on the PGA tour.
So you would kind of have to like equate it to the bigger events on the PGA tour.
And I would guess that like of the, you know, the Phoenix Open or the Genesis or, you know, these, these designated events.
If you compare the ratings of those to that of Liv, that would probably be more of a fair assessment.
I don't know exactly what that looks like.
But it doesn't seem from all the articles that this is like a ratings number that Liv is boasting about.
It does. It is tough when you get into the TV broadcast game, like when you're on YouTube and you're doing concurrence and it's like hard to measure against, you know, stuff that's on TV.
When you get put on TV and your number comes out, the people will say, oh, you know what got more viewers than that door the Explorer at 3 a.m.
Like you, you set yourself up for those situations. So it's, you know, it can't be the number that they wanted if you're Greg Norman and those guys.
And we do kind of, I will say, we do.
kind of set ourselves up to fall into that like golf's just not overly popular on television.
That's right.
You could probably say that about any, a good number of golf broadcasts.
You could find some average show and be like, oh, yeah, the rerun of this show does
well.
Like you could probably find that.
So you set yourself up for that.
But no, I don't think it's like a roaring start for them for the year.
No chance.
Ryan Whitney has chimed in the top five golf courses in the world.
Top five most famous golf courses.
I asked him.
He goes famous, hmm, like well known by fath by golfers or people that just know sports.
I said, just famous.
General public, you pull him.
He says, Augusta National, Pebble Beach, St. Andrews are the easiest top three.
I said, locks.
He goes, then the next two, fuck, I don't know, because I can't think like some loser who doesn't golf.
I said, okay.
And he goes.
Okay.
Maybe.
Then he goes with four, maybe sawgrass.
Okay.
Which is a sawgrass.
So then he goes five.
this is hard but maybe Shinnecock.
So I then asked Matt Martin, who was also now a New Yorker, but from Canada, he said
Shinnecock as his fourth and as his fifth.
Shinnecock, what did Matt Martin say as his fourth?
He said, he put, um, he put sawgrass in, but I had to like get him there.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
It was, I did the sawgrass and he goes, yes, definitely.
You know what I mean?
That's not the game.
It's funny.
It's not the game.
my group of buddies from home
there's 12 guys
on this group text
and it's a little bit misleading
because I sent it to a group text
so people get to see the first answer
and then change their,
not change,
but helps formulate their opinion.
But a buddy said,
Augusta, Pebble Beach,
St. Andrews,
sawgrass,
Pinehurst.
And then there was an agree,
another agree,
and another agree
where they just replied to that text.
I like this,
I like the text thing.
If you were texting with your buddies, if you're a listener, just tweet us out.
Everyone's doing this.
Everyone's doing this.
Yeah.
I want to see them.
You might as well not even send the first three because you're never going to get a different answer aside from Augusta St. Andrews and Pebble.
Those are the three most famous golf courses in the world.
That's a fact.
Right.
But I still like it.
I still like it's clean, though.
It is clean.
It is very clean.
Just send that to your buddies, send them respond.
And I want to see those text messages on Twitter.
Me too.
All right.
Move it along.
We've got Barstle Classic kicks off Monday in Myrtle Beach.
We talked all about your guys travel.
I believe you've sorted it out for the first event.
I think Dan Rapport, hopefully with a more audibly pleasant voice,
we'll be there on Monday as well.
But the Barstow Classic is kicking off Monday at TBC or at at Myrtle Beach at True Blue.
So it's nuts that that thing has come.
It's all circle.
It's,
Oh,
and we figured out our travel.
We figured out our travel.
We got a billion DMs and messages.
People asking us if they wanted to,
oh, this one guy's like,
I got a plane for you guys.
And we're like,
no fucking way.
You're going to fly us from California.
He goes,
yeah,
it's like,
$85,000.
We're like,
we'll see you later, pal.
Like,
go fucking kick rocks.
Shout out to,
I saw a lot of those suggestions,
which people are just,
I mean,
come on.
This guy's going to get a lot of shoutouts here soon,
but shout out to Josh Isner.
He figured out our travel,
you know,
I don't want to throw any of our guys.
Justin Mancini.
Our guy, Justin Mancini,
he's one of the best people ever.
We love him.
I want to hug him every time I see him.
But unfortunately,
really good in this regard.
He's really good.
He's amazing at his job.
You know,
Lisa has a huge team that, like,
they all know what the fuck they're doing.
We are not the easiest people to work with because we're traveling at the drop of a
hat. We're like, we have to be here.
We have to be there.
We need hotels.
We need flights.
We need rental cars.
And it's fucking, it's quick.
We're notoriously good at planning ahead.
We're horrible.
We presented just Mancine with an incredible.
incredibly difficult task incredibly difficult he ended up sending us a bunch of flight information a lot of
options which were very similar to the ones that people sent us as well like fans sent us a lot of
listeners sent us the same things that justin sent us and they're like you can't get to merdle beach
until 10 o'clock in the morning on monday if you're going to play in pebble on sunday morning
turns out we just missed this one incredibly easy flight that josh isner who's in charge of like
axon that's like a billion dollar company and he's like fucking working on all this stuff that
actually's changing the world and then for us he's like setting up this dabbog classic sends us
this flight information that i guess most people didn't think we'd be done with golf by this time
but we're teeing off at seven o'clock in the morning i think at spanish bay on sunday and we are
going to be done relatively quick because we're like one of the first two times off i think we might
be the first tea time off so we're going to be done relatively quick we found a 135 flight
out of Monterey.
So we don't have to drive all the way out to San Francisco,
out of Monterey to Dallas,
and then like a very quick layover from Dallas to Charleston,
which is only,
I think less than an hour drive to True Blue.
So an amazing situation where we're getting in around like 1 a.m.
into our hotel bed at Myrtle Beach,
ready to go,
sing the national anthem by 7.30 in the morning.
The next morning,
we'll be rested up,
we'll be slept.
We will have played a full weekend on the Monterey Peninsula.
Great.
situation.
Hell yeah.
That's huge.
I mean,
that's huge.
We just had to have that come through.
So glad that that came through.
And then the following week will be in Florida.
So next week's the Players' Championship,
like we've discussed a lot from Sawgrass and the hype and the video,
people make sure that they check that out.
We have,
we will have,
I think this might be breaking news,
but we will have merchandise at the Players' Championship as well.
I saw some people found this on the website,
which was very funny.
A guy tweeted this ad.
It's like two weeks ago.
It's like a picture you could buy one of our hats.
But just like at the Phoenix Open at the waste management,
we have merchandise that we worked with Players' Championship,
the trophy, the logo, Barstool Golf, our logos,
that we got all kinds of sick merch.
Shout out to Quinn and to our whole merch team that worked really hard to make that happen.
Shout out to the PGA Tour and Sawgrass and the event,
the Players' Championship event for working with us on that.
But anyone that's going to the tournament,
go to the merch tents, check them out,
we got our merchandise in there as well, which we're going to be rocking some of in the video
where we play Billy Horsals.
You'll be able to see it in action.
That's right.
Very cool.
It's very cool that we're teaming up with some of these tournaments.
It's a very surreal thing.
But sold out at waste management relatively quickly, quickly.
And we would like to do that at the players.
So our stuff like the players is so good that I'm surprised they let us do the things we're doing.
Me too.
Like we essentially just have, if you like want the players hoodie, like the one that
just says the players across it and it's like the best quality hoodie you have to get the
barcel walf one because oh that has so good rigs i have the hoodie do you want me to show the hoodie
show the hoodie i have the hoodie too but i don't want to get up the hoodie is so good that if you
if you like if you go to the players and you say i want to take the hoodie from this merch tent the one
that best just says the players across the chest you have to get ours because ours is is the one
like they gave us the logo across the chest it's crazy Trent ryan is showing it right now it is so
I can't even see that person yet.
How good that is is fucking insane.
And then on the sleeve, you've got the B-cross T alternate logo.
Show the bottom, too.
The bottom has like that old school, like, yep, the trim on the bottom that everyone loved at the waste management.
Nate Bargatz, he called it like his favorite hoodie he's ever had.
He said he was going to wear it on Seth Myers when he was on KSU Radio.
It's an amazing, amazing hoodie.
I can't believe we're selling that.
I do love it was like anybody, anybody on Twitter that's like,
four play guys are just PGA tour mouthpieces.
They're going to love this clip of us.
Just like only players.
Dude,
we've talked about for a long time about how we want every,
just everywhere should have hoodies.
Every single golf course should have hoodies.
And now,
you know,
we are the hoodie that they're going to be selling at the players.
Very,
very exciting.
Very, very exciting.
The hoodies are fucking sweet.
We're totally neutral.
Unbiased.
Just kind of whatever,
whatever tour works best for you.
what they want us to do you know this is what we're trying to sling merch man we're trying to make
money we're trying to drive revenue we're trying to create cool shit for people this stuff's fucking
awesome so yeah i can't believe in the scramble tomorrow night billy literally starts up being like
this thing's gonna be sold out by tuesday it's just like the best fucking promo ever
and we have um we have um polos too oh that's a good hat too lurch looked really good in that
he did he usually is not a particular no he's not usually a hat person lurks but he looked
great in that hat.
So yeah, check that stuff out.
We're going to probably go because we have a Florida Barstool Classic the following Monday in the Tampa area that I looked as like a four-hour drive.
So you might drive, might catch a flight.
But we're thinking about going to the players championship next week.
There's a lot of moving parts because we're going to be in Pebble Beach all this week from like Thursday through Sunday.
We're going to have Josh on the podcast for Thursday show to talk about.
We talk about this thing every year, but he's obviously the architect of it.
He also won the Barstool Classic last year.
So him and his partner, Brandon Mahoney, are going to come on the show for a Thursday show.
Talk about that.
Talk about winning the Barstall Classic, what that was like because this thing sells out in two, three minutes around the whole country.
A lot of people look forward to or excited to play.
It starts next week.
So we're going to fire that up.
We're going to talk about the Dadbod Classic.
It's two to two all time.
team Jisner, team rigs have pied all times.
This is a huge game five, if you will, a pivotal game five.
We got the cruiser back together.
We got 24 guys total, I think, going out to Pebble Beach.
So we're going to kind of preview the trip, talk about the trip,
tell some stories about the trip and about the Barstool Classic and all that on Thursday show.
And then we're going to be at Pebble Beach.
I'm sure we'll be posting stuff.
We'll be having a couple cocktails, get a little bit loose with the social media account.
So I'm sure you'll see some stuff posted by us.
And then other than that, if you guys got nothing, we got Hardy coming up next to, like we mentioned off the top is one of our favorites.
Oh, I'll say real quick, Alex Bush sent us the records of the for the cut pick so far.
So I just figured I should share these that rigs 6 and O, Frankie, 6 and 0, Trent, 5 and 1.
Wow, Trent.
Dan Rapaport, 3 and 3.
Oh, God.
How part about those is it takes weeks to catch up.
Like if you're behind, you've got to wait for a whole golf tournament to happen to just pick up what.
So you really need, it's not easy to catch up.
So it's, uh, I was pretty damn good for us three, man.
Pretty fucking good.
We're, and we're not picking chalk names.
We're, we're going to the bottom of the barrel a lot of times.
I pick Christian Bazaden hoot last week.
I mean, at the end of the day, we're not going to the top.
We're, where I scroll.
I had Doug Jim a couple weeks ago.
That was nuts.
That was nuts.
I picked Tiger Woods.
And he made the cut barely.
The cut had to move.
We had to wait.
We had to wait overnight until the next morning for him to make the cut.
We're really just getting lucky a lot for being honest.
But those are pretty good records.
Pretty good records.
All right, boys.
You got anything else, Frank?
Anything on that brain ears there?
You want to get off your chest?
I've been playing a lot of video games because we've been home.
I have a lot of Hogwarts.
I've been playing a lot of NHL.
I went to the Nause concert on Friday.
That was dope.
Shout us to game time.
That was great.
It was really fun.
He's a legend.
He's just got,
he's just got quite a catalog.
And it was great to see him at Madison Square Garden of all places.
So that was fun.
That's really the only thing.
Was it MSG?
One night only.
Yeah, he did one night.
And we were like, me and Noah,
that's wild.
Chicks in the office.
Yeah.
So we're like, yeah, I didn't even really know about it until Noah hit me up.
He's a huge Nause fan.
I was like, do you want to go to this?
And I was like, yeah, I do.
And we went and it was, it was incredible.
Yeah.
No, I don't really have anything.
wedding dinner tastings are probably the craziest experience you'll ever have
when it comes to dining you're getting 19 meals of all the best shit that they offer
it's a lot they charge you for the tasting no they can't they can't do that now it's free
they probably just tack it on somewhere you don't even see it's all tacked on
it's a fucking shit show they're not giving you that for free are you insane it's it's it's
somewhere I mean do they bring out full plates or is it like is it bite-sized
six people there, the parents were there.
So they come over.
You couldn't get a seven. So you,
you come in,
they basically give you enough for the six
people. Like they'll put like two
like two big things of the steak and you cut
them all up. And I mean, you have a decent amount of food.
It's not like you're leaving.
You leave stuffed. Yeah.
But you go through everything. You go through like
six beef, six chickens,
six seafood, six, like all these
vegetarians. It's all the possible
horses we pass around. It's nuts.
man the chef comes out and he's like talking about where he gets all his herbs and shit i'm like i don't
know man do you do you think you made the right choices i actually have a wild choice
i have a wild choice that like it's not wild it's just like it's more perception like if you
don't have a fucking filet on your menu is that like cheap but we're picking one that's in the same category
that's like this 24 hour braised short rib like boneless short rib i was gonna say rib i think ribs is a good
choice.
The short,
this braised short rib,
first of all,
it looks like a steak,
so it's like,
it doesn't matter.
It is so fucking tasty.
Like,
it just tasted better than like an age strip or like,
filet mignon I'm out on,
by the way.
I've always been,
what?
I'm out of filet mignon.
It's got no fat in it.
It's got no taste.
It's all about the consistency.
Filet mignon's are like the same
no matter where you go.
Like,
it doesn't,
you're not getting a really good filet.
I'm a filet man guy.
I love them.
I'm a New York strip guy,
but like,
New York just got flavor.
Flay mignon's just got that consistency
of it being soft and like melt in
your mouth, which I like too. I'm still going to have
a filet. I put it as my
last option in steak.
I think you can get a bad
filet. You know what I mean? You don't get that much flavor
in it. The fat's where it's at, dude.
The fat on a New York trip is
phenomenal. The fat's where it's...
Dude, how about... I accidentally like
clicked a fucking button on Zillow, you know?
I guess how many missed calls I have
since we started the show?
Oh, my goodness. From random numbers.
Oh, I see.
You know what I'm saying?
17.
You've had 17 miscalls during the show?
Because you clicked like, I'm interested in this house on Zillow or something.
Something like that.
Yeah, because I started looking at places in Arizona just because I've been here for two and a half years.
It's at that point where like you don't want to pay rent and just burn money.
So I'm thinking if I'm going to pay rent, I might as well just try to pay down like a mortgage so you can own something.
I think everybody's kind of been through that process at some point.
I'm 36 now.
You started to get to that point.
So I was just scrolling through Zillow thinking about buying something passively looking.
And yeah, I clicked like a couple heart buttons that were like, I'm interested in this place.
Clearly that just means my phone number got out there.
I'm fucked.
Dude, one guy texted me, a video of him talking about interest rates.
Dude, I had that when I, I, um, I was looking to move out of my place to move out to
Long Island out of Manhattan.
And I went to one moving site, moving.com.
It was like, yeah, this is kind of how much stuff I have.
That's the square footage in my apartment.
This is kind of what I'm looking for.
Apparently it just blasted out to every moving company within a 50.
50 mile radius.
And my phone was,
I couldn't use it for like two weeks.
It's the worst.
Dude.
I love Zillow by the way.
I mean,
outside of,
website app to just look at it.
Outside of Twitter and Instagram,
I think Zillow was probably my most used app.
Yeah.
This is all this morning, dude.
Look at this.
The sharks are circling,
man.
They think you want a house, dude.
They think you want to move in somewhere.
They're like,
we got to get in this guy's mount.
We got to get this guy's here.
Fucking texting me.
I'm out.
I'm just going to pay rent forever now.
Fuck you people.
This is Alex.
was Zona lending. I was notified you were currently in the market for a mortgage.
So, dude, I got mortgage people too now. They all just, they're sniffing, man.
This will be kind of buried in the podcast because it's so deep in the middle. And then we have
an interview right after. But I have a call with a pickleball place today about possibly, you know,
coming up with a little bit of a tournament here in New York. So if anyone's interested in that,
you just got a little bit of a tease on that. I think we're going to try and start doing shit like
that.
Dude, this pickleball shit is fucking blowing up, blowing up.
More than it was last week.
It's just blowing up.
I like this angle of it.
I think the angle of, you know, we're close with Larry Fitzgerald now and he loves
pickleball.
I think he's invested in a league and Kevin Durant and all these people have.
They all have these leagues.
But I think these tournaments that we may, might put on, I think that's the way to do.
Because regular people just want to play.
They want to play.
That's it.
Yeah.
I agree.
I agree.
They want to play.
They want to test their game.
Right.
It's just the, it's the Barstall classic mantra.
It's like people that are pickleball fans are playing pickleball.
Just like, go.
Yep.
Hopefully we're going to make it work.
All right, fellas.
Well, we're going to record a show tomorrow that we're going to put out Thursday.
And then I'm going to see you guys in Monterey, California in a couple days.
Crazy.
Very excited.
I haven't hit a golf ball in a little bit.
It's been like a couple weeks.
So I'm excited to just like get balls in the air.
First course we're playing is Pebble Beach.
It's insane.
Absolutely.
Friday morning, the boys will be at Pebble Beach golf legs.
In golf shots.
All right.
All right.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Reminder, go to Barstool Sportsbook, put in your plays.
Make sure that you go to the exclusives tab.
Exclusives tab.
And then you can click the bottom right, bet with Barstool.
And you'll see the four, the cut from the Ford Play Golf podcast.
Ricky Fowler from Riggs Barstool, who has a 6 and 0 record.
uh we've got brian harmon a little fellow from frank borelli who has a six and a
record we've got cam young from trent ryan who's got a five and one record and we've got zander
shawfley who uh from the guy that's clearly trying to just pad his stats from dan rapaport
who's got a three and three record i will say a zander shawfley miscut this week would would
put dan rappaport in a world of her we might i mean we might have to start you know
asking somebody else. We might have to ask
Alex what his pick would be.
Right. You know what I mean? You got to perform.
That's right. We might have to do that. So it's a big week.
All right. Enjoy Hardy. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.
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We're here with Hardy, one of our favorite musicians
on the planet right now. Welcome to the show.
Thank you, man. I loved you guys for forever.
So I'm stoked to be here.
This is our first time doing it?
person with you? I think every time it's been. Yeah, it's been Zoom, right? Yeah, because I mean,
when I met you guys, was that also was the, the, um, the scramble, I think was the
scramble was that. Was that 2020 also? Yeah. It was. So then like we did some stuff after that and it was all
still like COVID era. Yeah. Zoom stuff. I feel like a lot. Dude, that scramble we talk about
is still like at the time for us, like we were just getting into like that, that world of country,
it felt like and like Darius Rucker was like this big name like oh you guys want to
play with and like we knew Jake we hadn't met you yet and then like oh Morgan Wallin's
going to come in like looking back on that video now how much you guys have all blown up it's
crazy it's probably one of the craziest videos we've done yet like to get all four of you guys
together is an insane insane like wholesome it's just golf man I know but if you can't golf to
anybody and they're clear their schedule for you're especially when it's in your back yard we
played a troubadour that place is amazing and that would that was my first like first round
there was it really yeah
Yeah.
I don't play out there a lot.
That was the first time, I guess, the world or our world had seen your swing,
your silky, smooth, lefty swing.
Everyone's been so used to watching my lefty swing, and they're like,
oh, that looks a little bit different compared to, like, Riggs and Trent and Lurch.
It's just on the other side.
And then they saw yours, and they're like, fuck, that thing's even smoother.
How's your game been since we last saw you?
Man, it's been okay.
I, let's see, I was supposed to, I had a plan.
I joined a country club in Nashville last year called Old Natchez, a really, really
cool course and I was going to play a lot in October because we had almost the whole month
of October off and then we had that fucking bus accident.
Dude, I was going to ask you about that.
I was going to ask you about that.
So I couldn't play and I was so bummed for a lot of reasons.
But they kind of put me on like golf rest for like three or four months, but I just played
twice in January and I play once in February.
So I'm back.
because all the mistakes are back and all that shit.
Of course.
Yeah.
It takes me a few months.
This bus accident.
I saw it on social media and you posted it's like, so what happened with that?
Man, our driver had a just a brain complication to, you know, kind of a blanket statement over the whole thing.
And he essentially just kind of had a, he basically passed out on the interstate.
That's so scary.
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy, man.
But we all lived.
Everybody's alive, which is like a miracle considering what we went through and just how the wreck, just all the turn it flipping and all that kind of stuff.
Wow.
It was a miracle.
Yeah, that's some scary shit because, like, you hear stories, horror stories about that.
It's like you got your, you know, you're touring, all of your stuff's blowing up and all of a sudden something like that can just happen.
You have no idea.
You're twisting and tumbling all over the place.
You have no idea what just happened.
No idea.
Top of the world.
And then all of a sudden it could change in a blink of an eye.
Yeah.
Man, I was, and I was, all I could think about.
And this is so cheesy, but it was true.
Like, we had been doing all this stuff for planning our wedding.
Our wedding was in, like, three weeks.
Oh, my God.
Or maybe, like, you know, four.
And I literally, like, when I woke up, because we all got knocked out.
And, like, when I woke up, that was, like, the first thing, I was like, you cannot
fucking die.
Or your wife is going to kill you.
Oh, my God.
Or your fiance.
I was like, you have to make it to this wedding.
And that's the only thing I could think about me.
It was just how hard we worked on planning the wedding.
And, and, I didn't know, I didn't know, like,
if I was hurt, like I was bleeding.
I had blood coming out of my head.
Like, I could, this is so gross, but I like kind of went to touch it and this is so gross.
But I could feel like part of my scout was kind of peel back.
God damn.
But I didn't know, like if, dude, I have a huge fear of like, like head trauma, brain damage.
Like, that's like one of my number one fears.
And I've always heard about people like, hey, he fell, hit his head mopping the floor.
And then like 30 minutes later, he fell out dead because he didn't know his brain was bleeding.
And I didn't know if something like that was going.
It freaked me out.
And, but anyway, I got to the hospital and we did a scan and, like, it was all just like,
I just got, like, some staples in my head.
And that was pretty much that and small back injury was like, that was it.
Did it happen when you guys was like overnight?
Was everybody sleeping?
Yeah.
So we were leaving Bristol, Tennessee, which was like relatively to Nashville really close.
Yeah.
And so Tanner and I and my tour manager at the time, Noah, we were all on the one bus.
And so we said, well, let's leave right after.
well I do he went to Jared the song that Morgan Wallin and I have together I do that with him and his setter I did and soon as soon as we got done with that I said let's go back to Nashville so we can get back at a decent hour and I go to actual bed as opposed to getting back at five in the morning and then like sleep until two in the afternoon screwing up you know your week right long story short and so we left Bristol and we were like 15 minutes outside of Nashville when it happened but we were but that we were also
like two miles away from exit that was literally built for a hospital like I mean it could not have
been it was like a miracle I called 911 when I finally got a phone and all that and I told them exactly
where we were and they were I could hear by the time I got off the phone I swear to God I hear the sirens
it was like thank God man it was crazy that is absolutely there's a lot of small little miracles and that
and those like 10 minutes of it was crazy I can't even imagine wow well
I'm glad everyone's okay
That's interesting
Yeah I told to him we were driving in
I'm like I just
I can't imagine being in something like that
So I didn't even know if you were going to talk about it
That's a traumatic experience
But I'm glad everyone's okay
You're back, you're torn now
You're playing in New York City tonight
Yeah
Which is awesome
Is it all right
Is it Hammerstein or Hammerstein
Because I'm gonna get fucking in trouble for that
If I don't do it right?
I would say Hammerstein right
Stein
See I would say see somebody told me Steen
A New Yorker told me Steen
Stein.
Hammerstein.
I like to put a little bit of English on everything, though.
Like, I like to make it seem a little bit more fancy than it is.
See, I would think Steen is more fancy.
No, Stein.
I agree.
Really?
Hammerstein?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know shit.
E-I-N, right?
It's E-I-N.
So it could be either one, right?
St.
St. E-I-N?
Yeah.
So you were doing, you were touring with Morgan, right?
Doing like arenas and stuff?
Like, how was that, like, to be exposed to all that stuff?
Oh, man.
He's been, he's been like, my biggest.
supporter for for tour just throughout since I've been doing it but um awesome yeah and like it's just
cool to see him like I don't know man it's four years ago literally to the day we were playing
I was opening for him playing like venues anywhere like we for example we played Irving
plaza here and like that size rooms right four years ago which doesn't seem like that
Irvin Plaza with Pop Punk.
That long ago, and now he's selling out, like, Buckeye Stadium, too.
Right.
Like, look a look.
It's crazy.
It's just, it's awesome to watch him.
Just, like, my brain can't even process the, like, how, like, how, like, hard he is, like,
blown up, like, on a global scale.
It's just crazy, but it's awesome.
Are you feeling that for yourself right now, though?
I mean, you look at your, like, you're, you're going on your own tour right now.
Everything's, like, happening.
Your music is hitting hundreds of millions of streams and downloads and Spotify and Apple.
It's like you're entering that, that streamline.
Do you feel that?
Like, do you feel it picking up?
I think so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's that feel like?
Weird.
Is it stressful?
Like, I feel like we, on our side, like, the bigger that our brand gets, I feel like
a little bit of stress of like always having to like catch up to it or like meet the expectations
always settles in.
Is that the same in music or are you so confident that like you're getting instant reaction from
your fans because you see the downloads and you know that if you play a song that has a
downloads people are going to love it yeah for us we're always trying that new shit and it's always
like oh how are we gonna how are we gonna have another big 2023 i would say that i deny i try to
it right i don't even like to look like to look at it like when the success comes you just try to be
like things are as they were and like let's just keep doing the shit that got us you know what i can't
say like oh everyone loved that video of rory we're going to show it again like in front of like
another 100,000 people you can't like yeah that's true you get to just he gets to just like play
the song that we'll fucking love we like we love that music no matter what it's awesome
But are you feeling like, is there any pressure that comes with getting bigger like that in your world?
Not really with like the making music part.
I just, I don't know, man.
I've got like an awesome crew of like songwriters and collaborators and stuff and buddies in town that, you know,
and my record label is never like breathing down my neck.
Like you need to put a record out in six months.
Like get to writing songs.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's very like everybody.
I have confidence that within the next two years I'll be able to do something else with the awesome
people that I work with.
But I do feel there's like weird, like,
like fame pressure.
I don't even like the word fame,
but you know what I mean?
Like,
because it's like every couple of years,
like I feel like,
and I've watched like Morgan go through this
and just a bunch of buddies go through this.
But it's like you have some,
you know,
something great or a new record
and it kind of shoots you into the next tier.
And then like,
then you can't go to like grocery stores and shit.
And like,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I hate that shit, man.
I, I, that's the one part of this whole life that I was like afraid of happening and like,
I'm not saying I'm like Elvis or anything, but like especially around Nashville and like,
it just sucks sometimes like to go to cool cities and,
and want to go to a bar after the show, but then you like, you can or you'll be miserable or be like
taking pictures and stuff the whole time.
And I don't know, man, that's the part I've struggled with the most, um, just going from like a
songwriter and like I kind of had my career set and had some like hits under my belt and then I jumped
into the artist thing and like, you know, life.
completely true that happens in every i know y'all understand that too it's 100% like and you feel
sometimes like a dick like saying things like that like we'll always like you know if we go to a golf
event we love meeting the fans but sometimes like if we have to get somewhere and like you have to
just take a photo with a million different people as people will never understand dude they don't
understand because it's their first time seeing you there's like a famous quote of like uh was
like micky mannill or jodd imagine it was like i'm gonna play as hard as i did yesterday because it's a it's a
kids first time seeing me play. Yeah, that's cool. It's a cool way of thinking of it.
Obviously, we're not fucking Joe to manage you or Mickey Mantle. But like, I like to think of it
in that way where it's like that it's that person's first time ever seeing you in public.
So obviously he's not going to think that you just stopped 15 times prior at the waste
management. But it gets to you. We're all human beings. Like it gets to you. You're like,
you want to get to your next destination. You don't want to have to have the same conversation a million
times. So totally see what you're saying. It's all about kind of navigating that line too.
Right.
always and you guys are so good at that but like treating people with respect and knowing that
like all they're trying to do in their own fan way is like tell you they love you you you know what
meaning that they're a fan and they support you and sometimes you can be blind to that with a bad mood
or like being in a hurry or something but i do i just constantly have to check myself and be like
this is a first or this is a kid you know what i mean like don't ruin this person's experience
or like you know just be nice and a smile and a hello and a thanks and whatever it's
It's nice having the crew that's kind of going through it a little bit before you,
where you watch it go and you can learn from it.
Totally.
Yeah.
I mean, it's happened to.
I got to see like a few of my buddies that happened to him.
And Morgan being the, you know, the main one because I feel like I very much kind of followed his path up until now because he's like one of the biggest artists in the world.
But yeah, it's nice to have kind of seen people go through it and sort of mentally prepare.
you know if if things go well like I'm going to have to go through that at least it not coming as a
surprise I guess you know the thing I would say to myself like if someone like you know go to an island
game or we'll go to a golf event a bunch of people notice me and like I'll say like well like you're
asking for that to happen or else we wouldn't be putting out these videos and podcasts you know what I mean
of course part of you is like yeah if they didn't notice us we're doing something wrong for the last
five years so I always feel a little bit more like confident in that stuff and then also I think
back to before I started at Barstle, I waited in line for like an hour and a half to go meet
KFC Barstle at a Jets game. I literally went to like a meet and greet at a Jets Bills game and I waited
for an hour and a half before I even worked. This was like eight years ago, nine years ago.
And I like couldn't wait just to get my eyes on him because I'd read every one of his blogs.
I hated him because he was a Mets blogger. I hate him because he used to shit on the Islanders
and all these things. So like I just wanted to see him in real life. So now I think about like
the other Frankie Brelli now that's just like a huge Barstool fan that just like listening.
to Trent or watches Trent on breaking any and watches us and they're like just wants to see us and I
always think about like how crazy yeah you were that person right so that is always the reason why it's
like that's the coolest shit ever yeah that like that's still happening do you have any other crazy
like full circle like cool moments with golf you got to like i mean i'm fair with tiger woods
we were at the pj championship and we were walking with tiger and i remember just like legitimately
people say that you feel like you've exited your body when you have a big moment like that yeah i could
picture us walking down the fair road and we were walking with them i felt like i was watching us
yeah anytime you interact with tiger is is a full circle one like he's saying yeah it feels out of
body because he's not real yeah yeah he's not a real person like like like like you read these like
mythical greek books and like like like like all these like like greek god ceres hercules
zeus right here those names like hercules like that wasn't a real person that's just a name
that they like you're thinking so tiger woods is legitimately that like you can't believe he's
actually a human being.
You feel like he's just a character that we made up.
I feel that.
You've seen on TV that won all these majors,
and he's like a figure of speech almost.
Have you had anything with that musically?
With your, you know, journey?
I have, and it's golf related,
which is my favorite thing ever.
So I, my first job in Nashville,
when I mean, like,
the week I moved to Nashville,
I've worked at a country club
called Hillwood Country Club.
Very prestigious,
old, you know how that is.
Old people, real, sorry,
real snooty and like,
they're going to,
walking on eggs.
Everybody's going to see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of.
And I cleaned, I was a cart, just a cart kid.
And I was 19 years old.
And one day they had a tournament.
And I cleaned Charles Kelly's clubs.
Charles is in Lady Annabellum.
Lady A.
Sorry.
And I cleaned his clubs.
And I think he tipped me 20 bucks or whatever.
And I thought that was like the coolest thing in the world.
And let's see, that was 2019.
So in 2020, I, Chris Lane put together a golf trip to Pinehurst.
And me, Chris Lane, Jake Owen, and Charles Kelly teed off of Pinehurst number two.
And that was a cool.
Were you able to tell him that story about how you cleaned it?
I bitched out.
No!
No!
So I haven't told him yet.
Well, we're going to tag him.
It was the first time that I met him.
and we all, it was, it was like the coolest thing.
Like, we all striped one, you know, and we were like, hell yeah, this is my first time playing
number two.
And, uh, I just, I didn't know him that well.
Yeah.
You were playing a cool.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Yes.
Like, I didn't, I didn't want like this first impression of me to be like.
This fucking guy is talking about how we.
Oh, I clean your golf clubs.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
But those golf clubs are clean.
I think I cleaned those.
You guys clip this.
I'll send it to him.
Yeah.
Oh, there you go.
That's a good way to do.
Hey, sorry, I never told you that.
But I, and truly, I just, I soaked that whole moment in of like how many cool people have walked through here and, uh, and who I'm with and that whole story.
And Rick's cottage is on whole three.
Did you get, they got a chance?
I peed in his bushes.
You did what?
I pissed in his bushes, dude.
Good job.
Good job.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Put it on his putting green.
That's unbelievable.
Uh, no, I really did.
I sent him a video.
I can't.
I don't, he didn't seem like he was too thrilled.
How'd you play overall at that at Piner's number two?
Pretty good.
We, uh,
The first five get me every time, dude.
Yeah, man.
Number two is like freaking hard for some reason.
Those greens are out of control.
I mean, it's just you can't hold them.
They're all turtle-backed.
It's not a fun day if you're not playing a lot.
Do you like two or four better?
Four.
Four.
Me too, man.
Four is like, two is amazing.
Four has more charm, dude.
It's like.
Four has like character for sure.
It reminds you a little bit more of Augusta.
There's a little bit more water and there's like all this elevation change.
and just looks prettier to me.
Yeah.
I'm not a big historian when it comes to golf.
I don't get off on the,
I do a little bit.
I guess it depends on where we're at.
When we were in Scottsdale,
I was getting like a history boner.
Well, that's like.
Scott'sale,
sorry,
Scotland.
Scotland.
That's like,
I got a history boner of like,
holy shit.
Yeah,
this course has been around for 300 years.
I'm into that.
Yeah.
When it comes to like this guy was,
was the architect,
like,
I'm not,
that's not what separates a golf course for me.
It's like how fun did I have on that course.
It comes down to playability.
Like,
Number two is great.
It's got all this history, all this major history.
Payne Stewart, obviously.
Yeah.
But if you're like, like Frank you're saying, if you're not playing well, it's a long day.
Four, you can have fun.
Yeah.
You can spray the ball a little bit more.
The greens are way more approachable.
And you still get that cool, um, natural, you know, the natural progression between like the earth to the fairway.
For sure.
And that four still has a lot of that too.
Definitely.
And, uh, well, the restoration of two made, I mean, I've looked back of pictures like when they used to have the US opens of Payne Stewart days like that.
The number two.
looked so much different.
What they've done to it now is incredible.
It is one of the coolest looking courses you'll play.
It is, man, because it's like, ugly is not the right word, but the first time you see it,
you're like, wait, what?
Because it is.
It goes from the natural, like, sand and they slowly water it to the middle.
So it just, like, gradually turned into the fairway.
That's, I've never seen anything like that.
It's really cool.
Do you have any plans for golf coming up in this 2023 year?
Dude, we're doing a, we do a Pinehurst trip every year.
And with, so Jameson, Roger.
who is a singer.
He's actually on tour with me.
He's a singer.
For his bachelor party, we all went to Pinehurst.
And we had like, and we've done a few trips out there,
but we had like such a blast.
And we did tobacco road while we go out there.
That place is insane.
And, um...
If ever played the one in Murrow Beach,
the Mike Strand's one in Murrow Beach?
Uh-uh.
True Blue.
True Blue.
We're having our Barso Classic there on Monday.
Is it crazy, too?
It's the same architect.
Oh, oh, same.
I just got done talking how I don't really care about architects.
It's a same.
you could tell that he did it.
But it's a sick off course.
You can't believe it.
Yeah.
Tobacco Road is like top five for me.
Me too.
That fifth hole though.
What's number five?
The par four?
No, the hole that I put down.
The par five.
Yeah, the par five, right?
With the big sand.
No, it was earlier than that.
I think it was the fifth hole.
I'm pretty sure.
The fifth green at Tobacco Road, you can put and it comes right back down.
It goes 80 yards back into the fairway.
One's a par five.
Two is a par four.
Three is a par three.
four is a par five
I can't remember
it's a dog right or left
dog left
that's that
then that's the par five
yeah I think right
yeah yeah I think you're right
I think you're right
and it's kind of like a golden t
kind of situate like if you put it right
on the edge you can get to the green
yes that is right
in the fairway it's still a three shot
that's right that is correct
yeah I remember I was putting for par
I mean the videos on YouTube I was playing for par
like a five foot put and it just kept going down
and then I go up and kept going
it was one of those things
if you missed the ball by, if you missed the hole by six inches, it's 80 yards away,
which I did not love about that hole.
But aside from that, everything else is fun.
That'll be fun, though.
I mean, having a, like a yearly thing where you know you're going to this course is the best thing of all time.
We do this at Pebble, actually.
Do you all?
We're going next week from Wednesday to Sunday.
We do something called the Dadbod Classic play Spyglass, Bash Bay, and Pebble on Sunday.
I've never done any of them, do.
Oh, you have to.
I fully plan on it.
I just have not found a good time.
time. I know. The timing is weird. I've always said that California has great weather, but in that
Pebble Beach area, it's really, really hit or miss. Can it get that cold, misty, like, rainy shit out there?
Very much so. I went to mid-50s. I don't want to play it the first time like that. Dude, I took my dad out to
Pebble. I had played Pebble prior a couple times. We were lucky enough to go out there for, like,
media day for the U.S. Open. We went out there with Dave. We went out there for this dad by a classic
thing. And then I'm like, I'm taking my dad out there. He doesn't even like know how nice this place is.
So took him out there
And we get to pebble
And the whole thing was covered in fog
Like just like complete
Complete marine layers
Just overtaking every
It actually was a cool way of experiencing it for me
Because I had never seen it like that
Every hole felt like you were playing in like heaven
Because legit you're on these cliffs
And there's clouds underneath the hole
Yeah yeah yeah
So like all you saw was this incredible golf hole
And everything else had like this mist
It was wild
But I'm like dad
You don't realize that on the other side of this wall
is like the most beautiful looking
just the ocean and just all the land
Yeah so we'll have to take it back and make sure that he sees that
But it is hit or miss
So it is you have to definitely find a time of year thing
I don't I mean when they had the farmers insurance
It's always perfect so I guess like January is a really good
I'm sorry farmer farmer's at Torrey
AT&T it's always perfect so except this year they had hail
But I think it's real hit or miss
I think January is a good time I think like October is a good time
I went in August it was not a good time
So don't go in the summer
Don't go on the 7th.
Okay.
I would go on like,
gotta get out there though.
I fully,
I really plan on it.
There's a radio program director out there,
Nate Deaton,
who's really popular with,
like,
the country people,
because he's just been really good to artists.
And he's especially supportive of a young artist,
which not all of them are,
you know,
and so anyway,
long story short,
he takes a lot of people out there
because I guess he plays out there a lot or whatever.
And it's public,
right?
It's like Pinehurst, right?
It is.
You just have to look it out.
Yeah.
But you can just go and play it whenever,
technically, right?
Yeah,
there's like weird things where,
You have to stay on the property to get a tea time now.
So, like, definitely call.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You might just, like, pay more for not staying on property.
But, I mean, at the end of the day, you know you're spending a lot of money to play, like, the best course of all time.
You're going out there.
You should do the whole thing.
You do the whole thing.
Yeah.
Stay there.
Stay at, like, the, like, in the cabins at Spanish Bay.
You're not going to believe this place.
It's insane.
Okay.
I can't believe we're going in, like, a week.
It's nuts.
Dude, I'm so jealous.
I'm going, speaking in Nashville, that's where I'm going on my bachelor party.
When?
April 1st.
Look at that look on hard
Are you in town?
Dude,
let me check.
Come on, man.
I think.
I got a huge crew rolling up to Nashville.
I think I'm coming back from Australia.
Oh, shit.
Dude, I will send you.
Oh, boy.
Here we go.
I'll, dude.
You have the batch of part.
Please remind me.
And I've got some spots.
About that air.
Fucking awesome.
All right.
Yeah, I've got a crew of like 24 guys.
Oh, my God.
Do you know where you're staying?
It's like a huge.
that like has like 24 rooms it's like basically like two buildings connected we rented out
this whole place it's like 10 minutes away from downtown okay cool we're going to the
Preds game we got like a sweet you've been to a Preds game I've been to one Preds games
are fucking but dude has like the best fan environment really and we're going to a one o'clock game
against the blues so like it's a Saturday day game rival the whole entire town's going to be
crazy after I'm assuming yeah and a day game rivalry yeah that's going to be so fun dude so that would be
fun um and I'm sure
you know all the guys have some other stuff playing but i'll text you for sure if you're in town that'd
be great if uh if i'm not by if i'm not on the first i should be by like the second or you know
something like yeah i'm excited you guys going to get a golf uh golf so thursday i got a couple
guys going in with me we're going real early thursday so i was going to try and get out that
thursday i think it's like the 20 whatever how many days are in in march uh 31 or 31 January
February march are you doing that
I'll trust you.
The other day someone goes,
oh,
I was like,
when was your birthday?
And they go,
I was on the 30th.
I was like February.
Oh,
no.
Now,
now,
here's the problem with that.
Here's the problem with that.
It hadn't happened yet.
And it's not real.
No.
So I couldn't even even gotten lucky.
No.
You know,
like,
I know what you mean?
They told me this two days ago.
They're like,
oh,
my birthday was on 30th.
I'm like,
oh, February 30th?
What about?
What about people that are born on leap year,
dude?
Those people are like seven years old?
They're four years old.
when they're
Yeah, they're 28, right?
How about this?
I found out that there was once a February 30th
because I sent it.
I sent it to them.
That can't be right.
This was to Brock Nelson and his wife.
They were making fun of me.
I think people who are born on the leap day
or leap year or whatever,
I think they should have to abide by the actual,
whatever the birthday is,
that's how old they are.
You have to say you're seven.
You have to meet somebody and you at a bar
and you're like, how old are you?
Oh, I'm seven.
That's what I mean.
That's exactly what I mean.
I think that would be great.
There was a February 30th and 1712.
Yeah.
February 30th is a club's name.
What?
It is open to people who have to wait to get in.
All right.
Never on.
But February 3rd, it wasn't once state.
It occurred in Sweden in 1712.
The date was added to correct an error in Sweden's conversion from the Julian to Gregorian calendar.
They fucked it up.
They fucked up the calendar.
So they needed to add an extra day and they did it on the 30th.
Wow.
So was it like one day?
One day, one time.
Wow.
People born on that are confused.
Oh, my God.
You're right.
Imagine being born that one.
like I'm never I'm nothing.
Holy shit, dude.
I don't exist.
If you were born in Sweden on February 30th and 1712, you're a problem.
Yeah.
And you're also dead.
You're still alive.
You're not, you haven't aged.
You haven't aged.
You're the youngest person ever, dude.
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That place is like, it's gotten so big.
I got a buddy just moving to Nashville now.
He's leaving New York City and going to Nashville.
Like that's never happened before.
That's happening now.
I moved when I was 19.
I was 2010.
So that's,
I mean,
that's even before.
I mean,
now it's fucking.
I got there.
I mean,
it had still been changing,
but like,
no,
there were like 12 buildings in the skyline downtown when I'm,
when I got there.
It's just changed so much.
And so fast.
Yeah.
I mean,
I,
dude,
I love it.
I mean,
I truly like,
and similar to y'all,
like,
I've been blessed to be able to travel.
So I've,
I've literally been to like every city in the country.
And for just like overall like niceness and safe and the food.
I mean, Nashville is the top three in the country.
I truly believe that, man.
Taxes.
There's no state income taxes.
It's insane.
Which is very nice.
Is that right?
Yeah.
But I didn't know that was one of those.
Kind of make out for it in other ways.
And there's also like the roads and stuff can be a little bit shittier because there's, you know, there's not money coming in.
roads here.
I mean,
we pay the craziest state income tax here and we pay the craziest
property tax and the roads.
It's potholes.
It's like driving through Vietnam.
It's insane.
It's crazy.
You can't.
Do not get this guy started on taxes.
I can't.
I can't.
It's tax season.
So it's like you just wears his money going.
It is.
You have no idea.
Nashville's good, man.
I mean,
I love it.
Golf is great.
True.
Yeah.
People are nice.
For me,
it's like not far from where I grew up.
So,
but it's just,
it's great.
And people say,
traffic is not that bad, dude.
The traffic is not.
nearly as bad as like places in California,
like San Jose or whatever.
Nothing's worse in L.A.
traffic.
It doesn't even come close.
People that compare.
It doesn't even come close.
People that compare is nuts.
Yeah.
We were driving to an airport.
We were just sitting there.
It was like a parking lot.
In L.A.
In L.A.
parking lot.
On a eight lane wide highway.
Yeah.
And I've heard like literally if a fucking love seat
falls out of the back of somebody's truck,
like in one lane,
it will cause like an eight hour travel.
like it's it one wrong thing in l.A.
well apparently it just screw the whole grid up it's bad it's really bad so you have a show
tonight like what do you do like to prepare for a show do anything special do you do this
a thing like a thing before each show any superstitions no I mean kind of but they're really small
I've been uh I try to get my heart rate up a little bit like um because there's a weird thing like
if you run out there like and your heart rate gets really high like I get winded really
easily and um so like if pushups or just like something right before smack in the face a little bit
right before fist bump all the band guys we usually take a shot uh i'm not a big i have been but i'm
i'm i've gotten to be not as big of like a drinker on stage i like i don't know something cool
about just being a little more clear yeah sure you're not worried about fucking saying something
bad yeah but um man i don't know i mean we we all we get together 30 minutes before and we just
kind of hang out, listen to music and talk about our day. That sounds so lame.
What kind of music do you listen to before your own music concert?
It's a lot of hip-hop and a lot of metal.
Wow.
Just kind of hype.
What kind of hip-hop you listen to?
I mean, I guess all of it.
I'm not,
this is so, like, old man, but I'm not like a big, like the, you know, the mumble rap era.
I don't say space. I'm not a mobile rap guy either.
Yeah.
I just, I never got.
I'm too old to understand it.
I'm with you.
I'm not saying it's bad.
I just think it's, yeah.
Too old to understand.
I think we're this pretty much saying, how old are you?
32.
Yeah, I'm 33.
So we come from the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm not a mumble rap guy either.
I love, I mean, I like it all, though.
I mean, if it's, if it's good, it's just good.
I mean, I like, I like Jay Cole and.
Yeah.
Eminem is like I grew up.
Yeah.
He's one of the reasons I write songs just because of the, you know.
The style and the way.
Yeah, the way he rhymes and stuff.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
It's got to be the cool, like, yeah.
Be, knowing that you have a concert where you're going to play
and you're going to make everyone's night better
is such a cool feeling
It's got to be it is amazing
Because like listening to music is what like makes the world go around
It's like it's the best like global
Like we all can share just this thing
We stand there
We went to Dave Matthews concert
When we were at the Super Bowl
And it's just like you're standing there
And you're watching everyone's face
And you're like this is just the coolest way
To spend time on this earth ever
Dude music is
And you know it's funny when you said that
There are people on this planet
That don't care for music
And that is fucking weird
We got to lock those people up.
Who's got that joke?
Oh, it might be soda.
Yeah, it's soda.
So he has a bit about that.
About how like some people don't like music.
He's like, what do you, he's like, do you just lower your window and your car just a little bit?
Just so you can have a little inner ear infection noise going.
Like how do you pass the time when you're driving?
I don't, I mean, obviously probably me more than most people because it's my whole life.
But like, how I just cannot even process somebody that's like, yeah, I'm just not really into music.
I also, it's the gift, it's God's gift to Earth.
Like I swear to God, it is truly, it is the one language that we have on planet Earth that everybody speaks.
Think about it.
It's true.
It's true.
It's the one thing that everybody on the planet can bond over.
Right.
Like I get people saying like, oh, I don't like rap.
Oh, I don't like jazz.
Oh, I don't like this or that.
But to not like the whole gamut is weird.
That's like not.
That's fucking weird.
Weird.
I don't understand.
Oh, my God.
Speaking of music,
We've been doing that the whole time.
The new album.
Where did the inspiration for the name come from?
The mockingbird and the crow?
Yeah, I was...
So I collect arrowheads, like Native American artifacts and stuff in Nashville.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, me and a couple buddies right up and down, like the river.
Oh, like you actually go and find them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I found like hundreds of them.
They're everywhere.
You'd be shocked.
So Native Americans were shooting these things.
and they're just still there, like, on the river?
Yeah, I mean, you know, in theory,
it's just such a roundabout way to answer your question,
but in theory, like, you know,
they were here for 12,000 years,
and, you know, at its peak there were 22 million, I think, or something.
So that shit, you know, it's everywhere, you know.
Right, right.
So anyway, I was out there one day by myself,
and there was a crow flying through the sky.
I was on my boat and flying over the river,
there was a crow flying through the sky and there was a mockingbird behind it, like attacking it.
Have you ever seen that? It's a really common thing like in the South.
You've seen it all the time, like a buzzard or a crow and mockingbirds are really like territorial.
And so you'll see a mockingbird just kind of like flying through the sky and pecking at it.
And anyway, it's just always been a thing.
And I like for some reason just wrote down the mockingbird and the crow.
And I was in the middle of writing.
I was almost done writing for the record.
I mean, we had like recorded, I think all 16.
songs and I didn't really have a title for the record yet.
I just knew it was going to be like half country and half rock.
And I wrote that idea down and then like two weeks later,
I had two of my buddies,
songwriter buddies out on the road to write with me on the road.
Just to kind of hang out and if we end up writing a couple songs,
that's cool, you know.
And they basically tricked me into,
I played them some of the rock stuff off the new record.
And they were like, we have to write a rock song.
And I was like, it's done.
You know, the record's done.
And while I went to bed and the next morning, I woke up and they, one of the guys is like a producer writer.
And he had built this badass like rock section.
And I was like, you motherfucker.
And he was like, come on.
And I was like, all right, fine.
So I sit down and we start talking about ideas.
And I was scrolling through my idea list on my phone.
And I saw the mockingbird and the crow.
And it was like, I was like, I'm an idiot, dude.
Like this perfectly describes the country and the rock side of thing.
So I threw it out.
And I was like, I feel like we could write one more.
song for the rest. So long story short, we wrote the song. And so that was the last song.
Wow. Written and recorded for the record. Thank God, dude. Yeah. It kind of tied the whole thing together.
And so we made the Mockingbird like country and the crow. You know, it turns into rock and it's like a six
minute song or whatever. I love that, dude. How much of that will you play in the show tonight?
Like your new stuff. Dude, we play everything except for three songs. Wow.
So we play 14. No, actually now four. We play 13 of the 17 new songs. That's amazing. Yeah.
And this dude, it's so fun
So I actually can't make it
Unfortunately, I was talking to Marty
I was talking to Tommy
A lot of guys are so excited to go
I can't make it tonight
I got a thing going on
He's actually going to speak in hip-hop
I'm going to a Nause show
Where's Nause?
Garden garden
One night only
How insane is that
I know I thought that
The fact that they're on the same night
But I was like I'm gonna
I just I love Nogh
Noz man that's dude
Dude come on
I know one night only
At MSG
is he from New York?
Yeah, he's from Queens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, that's killer.
100% go to Nause, man.
I'm very excited.
I'm pissed and missing.
We'll be back.
We'll always be back, man.
And we're just going to go see you on the road wherever we are.
Dude, I was going to say, I've told, which I know, so, uh, Riggs, where does he live permanently now?
Scott's there.
He lives there, but he has the house in Pinehurst.
Pinehurst.
And, uh, where does Lurch?
Lurch is in Jersey or he's actually just moved to Boston.
I just moved to Boston
Yeah
Well either way
Yeah if you
If we're ever in the same place
At the same time
I'm just gonna look at your tour
Bro please
Or just come to a show
Yeah
Dude I tell people all the time
Like if you want to have a lot of fun
With us
Go to like fucking Boise
Or go to
You message us that once
Like Minneapolis or something
Like I don't know where it was
West Virginia
It was somewhere
And you're like
If you guys don't come to us
You're idiots
Because it's like
The best time
I can't remember
Which location it was
We were kind of in the same area
Was it?
We were like there for something.
Was it?
Bristow, Virginia?
It may have been.
Like D.C. areas?
Yeah, may have been.
That's a great crowd.
That could have been it.
But anyways, dude, it's always great to catch up with you.
Congrats on all your success, dude.
Thank you very much.
And same to you guys, man.
I keep up with y'all more than you know, man.
I texted Trousse in the deer stand.
When you had your break 80 thing and y'all like teasing.
Break 90.
Let's get ahead of ourselves.
Holy shit.
barely 30 years from now
we're in some of those videos
no yeah you did text me
and I was like did you do it and you're like
you gotta watch the video
and you said
he literally said you gotta watch a video
dot dot dot but no I didn't
I had to give it to him because yeah
no that's that's still going on
so we're still trying to
we're revere those up again
we took a little bit of a hiatus
he's working on his game
we're coming back
so breaking 90's gonna be back very soon
which is exciting
I mean it's like the best series ever
because like you don't have a chance
to like accomplish anything
anymore, I feel like.
Like when you,
like you're not in high school sports anymore.
You're like,
you're not strive.
Like golf's the only sport where it's like you're still like striving to accomplish
something.
Yeah.
And you can only do it on your own.
That's what is the best part about it.
Right.
So he's still trying to actively break a barrier in a sport.
Yeah.
Which is so fucking cool.
I think that resonates with so many people.
92 is as close as I've got.
So we'll get there.
Um,
I know we're getting ready to sign off.
But I was going to ask, where do y'all train?
Where do y' all like practice around here?
I mean, train.
and we use that term pretty.
Like somebody got a track man you go hit on or something?
We actually have these full swing wrongs monitors.
They're unbelievable.
We belong to this club out here called on Long Island called Colonial Springs.
And that's been kind of like a godsend for me.
Like I never belonged to a club ever.
I was always like my, I got my start on the podcast telling stories with these guys about
how I used to hop the fence and grab and like steal golf balls from the driving range.
Hell yeah.
And then go to this like shitty par three at Eisenhower Blue Course and just.
pellet the green and then just leave and I was the worst fucking person of all
time I used to try and clean up as many balls as I could oh that's amazing um I was a
fucking juvenile child that was I was an idiot I was an idiot so we all though right for sure yeah and
now the fact that like I have a place to kind of like you know do whatever I want where
in regards to practice I can go hit out of bunkers for two hours I can chip balls like
I did this thing fixing Frankie where I went and talked to like a golf psychologist yeah and
And, you know, probably because I need it, but also just to show people that there's ways to get better aside from just hitting balls.
And when you pair that with actually putting the time in to hit balls, it's amazing how much improvement you can see in such a short period of time.
You mean just like mental shit?
Dude, creating a process is what he taught me.
So like.
You work with this guy, Brett McCabe who works with John Rom and Billy Horshaw.
And it's, it is like, it's, I mean, you went from like 11 to a five over the summer.
So, dude, like, I'm like fast twitch.
I'm neurotic.
I like to make fun of myself.
And like I often found myself like as I'd walk over the ball, I would either be like saying,
hey, everybody watch out.
Because like I'd be setting doubt in immediately.
Yeah.
And I'd be like, watch out.
I'm coming for your head.
Like if I have a, had a chip.
And he was saying like, I don't want to change that about you, but let's change like what
you say.
Like instead of saying watch out, let's say like watch this and like, I'm going to do this.
And like that little bit of confidence went a long way.
And then also little things like the way.
like the way I would approach a drive, I would step up and just kind of like waggle really quickly.
Yeah, I remember dude.
I'd get all fucking hopped up and then I'd swing and he's like, like, slow it down.
Like let's like waggle slower.
And like I never even thought of that.
So like my waggle would be way slower and way more control and then I'd set the club down.
And now it's smoother.
So like little things like that.
It's all a process.
Where are you thinking?
Like picture your shot.
Do you want to go over this bunker?
Say it out loud.
Like be that cocky.
piece of shit Frankie Borelli that you like to be like with your buddies like say I'm going to
hit this ball with a baby draw right over that bunker and watch where it goes and how often when I did
that it would happen like I would call out my shot and it would happen and then he'd be like why are you
not doing that every single time have a process stand behind the ball call it out take over your
stand over the shot waggle slow come through the ball and be cocky about it be neurotic be crazy
laugh about it but don't change who you are just change your process dude it's that is so I mean I
I believe that.
I'm going to start using that.
I feel like when I get,
if I get hammered,
I play so good because I'll start,
because I'm not a big shit talker and stuff,
you know?
Yeah.
But same deal.
Like I'll start calling my shots
and being like,
I'm about to fucking play this button.
Because you're probably an athlete growing up, right?
Like you know,
you know how to do things.
You like like to like,
you know,
you like to be the guy that hits the shot.
That's what you're saying to me.
He's like,
you want to be the guy that like everyone clapped for
after you hit a shot.
So stop hiding from it.
Do it.
Yeah.
Fucking like make that shot.
So it feels weird to say it that way, but there's ways to incorporate it into your game.
So that really helped me.
What's this guy's name?
Dr. Brett McCabe.
He's legit.
I mean, but you got pretty good just on your own.
Like what was your lowest handicapped?
I mean, you were good when we played the scramble with you.
You were pretty damn good that day, too.
Yeah, it was 2020.
I was playing a lot too.
Yeah.
I got, I'm at, I was ended the year last year to four, seven.
That's good.
Oh, now imagine how good if you start, if you just put in a couple of those things.
Dude.
There's little things that you can, you can get down to like a one or scratch.
Oh my God.
That's my, my dream in life is to be for even one year, just one year.
Be a scratch.
Be a scratch.
I would love that, man.
Honestly, this is not a plug for fixing, frankly, but it is like watch a little bit of that series because I also do in the second episode is what just came out.
This guy, Scott Fawcett.
He does this thing called Decade Golf.
It's all about where to aim on a green.
And that will take you from like a four to a scratch.
Like if you have the talent.
Will you send me that shit?
Yeah, I will.
Oh, yeah.
If you go from, dude, it's very interesting.
It's a lot of information.
It's a lot of.
math it's a lot of craziness but he's helped so many professional golfers will as alatoris
being his main guy of like stop going for the pin go for the correct spot in the green and he has
all the math down to his science that if you go for the correct spot you will end up gaining strokes
over the rest of the field and the people that you're playing every single time really yeah and like he
does this what was it the bend diagram system bro he's like what are you going to hit here and i'm like
i'm going to i'm going to smoke an eight like it's 150 six yards 160 yards
I'm going to hit an eight iron.
And he does this Venn diagram system where he's like a seven, he goes, look where the pin is.
Your best eight iron can only go, and let's say the pin's here, my best eight iron can only go right behind the pin.
Right?
Let's say the pin was 161 yards and I think my eight iron can go 165.
He's like, you have to hit a perfect eight iron to get it there.
So now if you don't hit a perfect one, he goes, what was it, 20% of a disparity or whatever it is?
it could end up in the bunker because now it's short.
It can end up way left.
Like your chances of hitting a bad shot with that eight iron are way more than if you take the seven now.
And he showed me the circle of the seven.
A bad seven is still on the green.
A good seven is just off the back.
But like an average seven is right on the stick.
Right.
So it's about choosing the right club in all the right situations.
And it really was eye opening of like, holy shit.
How often am I not using enough club when like you think about,
where is like that surface area of where this ball could possibly land?
Yeah.
Eliminate all the bad spots of that surface area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just by picking the right club.
That makes so much sense, man.
And I feel like so, so many times more than not, even if I hit a good shot, it's 10, 15 feet short instead of like, you know what I mean?
You're like, oh, I don't want to be called a pussy for using a seven from 165.
Who cares?
It's the right club.
Right.
You think about that 161, 165, like you're talking about, like, you're saying you've got to hit it,
You're perfect.
You're perfect.
That never happens.
Yeah.
Just make it so if you hit your seven iron not as good, it's going to be still on the green.
Like that's really the difference.
In the episode we show, Brendan flew over on a drone and shows the bend diagram.
And the amount of like damage and danger of that eight iron was insane.
It was like a sliver could possibly be on the green with the eight.
And then the seven was all the surface area of the green.
And then I ended up using the seven and I hit it to like five feet.
So it's like it was just, it's amazing.
when you think golf really shouldn't be that difficult if you just know the way to think about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what to hit balls.
We do it all the time.
Yeah.
Right.
Especially if you got to a four with just doing what you're doing.
You have the skill.
You have the skill.
So if you just put a couple of these things in, you might get that scratch.
We're acting like we're fucking know what we're talking about.
We're just regurgitating information.
Yeah.
I love it, man.
That's killer.
We got to go out and play with you, man.
Dude, we have to do it sometime this summer.
I don't know when we're going to cross paths.
The Barso Classic.
Are you going to play in that?
We're doing one.
When is that?
June 22nd.
Where's that?
It's at the...
It's not at the...
No, it's...
No.
Is it heritage or something like that?
No, I'm in Chicago and Minnesota.
What was a good place?
How crazy is your schedule's got to be crazy?
We do Mondays.
I think that's when we...
Y'all do the classic on a Monday ever?
Is that not a...
Is that not on a Monday?
No, it's 22nd.
Thursday.
Friday.
Oh.
We do most of them on Mondays.
No?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That'll be a fun classic to go to.
Do you know what course it's at?
It's at Hermitage.
Hermitage.
Oh, Hermitage.
Is it Presidents or generals?
Dude.
Place is legit.
My favorite public course in Nashville.
Oh, wait, doesn't like Lee Bryce's guys belong there?
Who?
Lee Bryce's like tour manager.
I think his name is Philip.
Oh, I know his name is Philip.
But I think he belongs to Hermitage or plays there all the time.
Is that the place with the sheep that, like, run around the golf course?
Presidents alone is the one that has.
the sheep. Dude, they have sheep that just run am muck. And it's like, and Philip and, um, and, and his
like crew all play there. Donnie, the drummer, they all play there. You guys are going to love it.
It's, dude, it's, it's an awesome, dude, especially the presidents. It's my, I, it's my,
it's my favorite public court in national. Damn, I wish you could play. It's just so, there's so much
charm and it's so different and there's weird swampy vibes to it. It's, it's really cool. And it's
right on the picture before. They sent me a picture before and it was like the low fog and there was sheep
running around the place looks legit yeah it is sold out in two minutes so i guess that's why how does that
work you guys it's a sign up thing right yeah and then they you you is it first come first serve or do you
draw like first come first serve at um i think like past winners get like first right if you advance
to the barcel classic championship the previous year i think you get like a little bit of an early
pre sign up the day before if you like make it it it's just like a benefit of winning but the
majority of it comes we put on sale noon february second and it just
site crashes.
This year we had 25 events over 25 cities.
Jake Owen played the National one last year.
Really?
At old hickory.
And, dude, we ended up like shutting down the amount of signups.
So we have like wait lists.
We ended up shutting it down what, like an hour after, two hours after.
There's already 3,500 people on the wait list just to get in.
No way.
To the 25 different events.
People want to play golf, man.
People want to play golf.
They want to play it in a way and we run it where it's like it's competitive and
you put up a score and like if you do well, you advance.
It's like people really like that.
Plus it's just a barstole culture.
Like everybody's trying to get in on that shit.
It's that, but it's also like we give them a little bit of a competitive day.
Like I just talked about how like Trent gets to go and accomplish breaking 90.
How often does like a old like college golfer or high school golfer get to play in a tournament again with a chance to go to the championship in Scottsdale and win a bunch of money?
Yeah.
Like that's like legit competitive golf.
You and your buddy get to show up to this big event with all this crazy signage.
You feel like you're in a tour event.
Like it's cool of shit.
Yeah.
Like, it doesn't really, like, seeing me, like, say hi to them doesn't really, like, I think
it's more about the competition at this point.
The pride of it.
Yeah, it's cool.
You're going to win.
You're going to get your name on a trophy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You play pickleball at all?
Have you gotten in this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been playing crazy amount of pickle ball.
I, uh, there's not, there's not a pickleball place in Nashville.
There's a couple of courts, but there's not like a, like a place.
Dude, we have three facilities that just opened that have 14 courts indoors.
Like, brand.
It's cold like, like,
Pickleball Palace, pickle and par, pickleball plus.
All these places.
All over with a piece.
Yeah, P-P.
Dude, you got to open one in that show.
Yeah.
Because that'll be.
Man, it would blow up.
Blow up.
It's not a bad idea.
I can find one of these old warehouses somewhere.
Yeah.
Or you take a, like, a rundown tennis facility, and you just rip up that and you put
on new lines.
Yeah, that's true.
That's, it's fun, man.
I love it.
It's just, he loves it.
I like playing on the road now because it just gets you moving.
Well, and it's easy to set up, right?
You just, fucking.
and mark it out with chalk and take a,
take a net pretty much, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's good to have on the road.
I should probably get one of those.
We're always on the road, like, just like you,
and we never move around.
We go from, like, hotel, hotel, and we sit down and we just, like, eat candy
and we watch fucking movies.
And now we're like, let's actually get active.
Let's get our heart moving.
Yep.
It feels so good to, like, get off a plane and, like, go work out or something.
Totally.
I've been in the, I've been working out for the past month for the first time in years and for the
first time ever on the road.
Does it feel good, though?
Just up here, man, just going through.
your day and I don't feel like I want to take a nap or whatever dude I just it just kind of jump
starts your day yeah it's awesome it's like getting your heart rate up before you go up to a show
yeah exactly same shit all right well thanks for coming on again thank you man
good luck tonight I wish we could see you fuck next time dude next time next time I enjoyed it man
yeah thank you go see hardy on the road listen to his new album my man thanks again dude
