Fore Play - Would you pay 20 bucks to watch Tiger Woods sleep?

Episode Date: October 30, 2018

Riggs played a round with Brandel Chamblee this weekend and we're back to discuss that, “The Match,” and much more. We try to figure out what we wouldn't pay $20 to watch Tiger Woods do (spoiler: very little). We also have an update on the logistics of range balls for the pros at tournaments! In FTG, we break down what to wear to an indoor golf simulator, the best course keepsakes, why Frankie pronounces things like an asshole, and adopt a new rule called the "Gallery Rule.”  You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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It really is. When I whip up this headline, I get genuinely excited, throwing stuff in there. When you talk about, like, other things, it's just not the same. What are you going to talk about? You know, all this World Series talk day, like, I'm on the radio trying to talk about baseball. and like, I'm into sports and all that's fine. But it's a bit of a grind for me, you know? And I'm, like, kind of caught between saying, like, I just don't care that much and, like, knowing a little bit about it.

Whereas golf, it's just, I just get to sit here. Baseball stuff because you can't say, like, I don't care about this because people be like, oh, I thought it was bar of stool sports. But it's like, I'd rather just talk about golf on a Monday. I do care about baseball. The World Series hurt me. Well, I can see why you care because you're a huge Yankees fan. You just got your dick stopped. Yeah, the World Series hurts.

It's, we're flipped on our heads. It's a complete reversal of, like, worlds, right? like the Yankees have dominated the Red Sox for hundreds of years. And now, like, the Red Sox spend the most money in the league. They win the most championships. They dominate the ALEs. It's crazy. It's how I felt when the Cubs finally won.

Like, that was our big thing. St. Louis over Chicago. I love St. Louis. I'm from St. Louis. But, like, Chicago is a nicer city. It's a more beautiful, like, downtown. It's bigger. They have more sports teams, all that stuff.

But the big thing we had was like, you fucking losers haven't won the World Series over a century. Yeah. And our Cardinals of 11 were the best. You guys stink. And then they won the World Series. And it was like, well, shit, I don't have anything. And the big difference between, like, talking baseball and talking golf, there it is again. Golf.

You're so in your own head about it. You know what has been happening, too, is we, it must have been, like, six months ago that we talked about the way you say golf. Like, you say, like, Shooter McGavin. Yeah. But there's a whole, like, we have a whole new. It's a new wave. We've acquired a new wave of listeners that clearly didn't hear that because they're popping up. Like, I get angry emails again from people being like, can you say something to,

Frankie by the way that he says golf. The way that you are in people's heads about butter knives, they're in your head about golf. This is the tradeoff. I fuck up their short game. They fuck up the way I just speak. I think that's fair. I think it's a fair tradeoff.

Yeah, they're in my head. But what I was going to say is the difference between talking baseball and talking golf is that, like, I can just go out. That was pretty good there. Was it? Don't, don't like, I'm very conscious about the way I'm saying it. Don't whitewash yourself into like saying the word correctly.

Totally. And don't think about it at all. Just say it. You know, so I'm just going to repeat this for the third time. The difference is watching baseball. watching golf is that I can go out and play on the weekend right like I'm not going to like play a pickup game of baseball I'm going to go out there and I'm going to like do exactly what I watch

tiger do except I'm going to shoot like 40 45 to 50 strokes higher right that's like awesome to do that so I love talking about a sport that I can go out and play play this same I can play the same courses as rigs this weekend which is the coolest thing in the world 100% I agree so it's nice to talk off it's easy to talk off even in late October we get to talk off if you are like most of us you have a balance on your credit cards and a higher interest rate than you would like. So why not turn those balances into one monthly payment at a lower fixed interest rate and start saving money? Why would you not do that? You'd be crazy not to do that. It's just they make it, light stream makes it so much easier. It was complicated for me before, but they helped me out. They helped you out and

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Every year I post a little Iowa worth picture. I got a buddy. Parents have a great place down at Iowa. They're awesome. They invite me down. Shout to my boy's dad. Eric, who's a big listener to the show.

Shout out Eric. Loves the show. Loves having us down. So text me like a week ago. You want to come down, play some golf this weekend. A little nor'easter up in New York. I was like, yeah, I'll go down to Orlando, played some golf.

Weather was perfect. I played 45 holes on Saturday. Jesus. A lot of holes. Forty-five holes. We were in the golf cart from like seven in the morning until seven at night. It just didn't really leave the golf cart.

It was amazing, especially because at Iowa, you know, it's a gated community with the golf course that is just an immaculate condition. Tiger obviously used to live there. The whole saga. That's where it all went down. Yep. The fire hydrant's still there.

Drove right by it. You drove by the fire hydrant? I would do that. You know, it's one of those things. It's a really nice place, and it's kind of very cool sort of like laid back culture because everybody, again, it's like this gated community. They all live within there. So they don't have to be, and you can tell it's like frowned upon to be like hanging around

the fire hydrant and like looking at it and stuff. So you kind of just buzz by it a little bit, but it's there. That's a piece of history. You got to go see that. I'm the biggest, we're the biggest tiger fans in the world, but that's a piece of history. It's the most famous fire hydrant in the world. That is a fact. 100%.

Can you think. Can you think of a more famous fire hydrant? I sure can't. No. There isn't one. I mean, there's got to be like a famous picture from like back. You know how you always see those like famous black and white photos of kids playing in the fire hydrant or something? Like there's got to be like an iconic photo of that that I'm trying to think of.

I'm thinking like a fire engine like, you know, plugged into one or something. But I'm trying to. No, I don't know, man. I mean, he literally ruined his life with that fire. Like the biggest star of all time. Like that fire hydrant is that fire hydrant like spiraled tiger's life out of control. It did. is essentially, so driving by it.

I kind of stay away from it. I'm like, that thing's got some bad juju going on. Real bad juju. Gravitated to that thing. Totally. Like, get that thing out. You could hit a tree. Yeah.

They're like, that's the fire. I don't show me the fire hydrant. I don't want to know about that thing. Get out of tiger, though. In his worst moment, he still hits something that like, let's like, it wouldn't have, if you hit a fire hydrant, like, the water's going to, like, put out the fire or whatever. And it was a real proactive move by him hitting that one thing.

So my boy, Brandel Shambly, played with us. Yeah, he did. Oh, Brandel's the best. So I shot him a text because we had an open spot. And like I said, I went down last minute. So I showed him a text like, yeah, I don't know if you're around at all, but we'd love to have you, you know, join us, play a little golf with us. Text him back right away.

He's like, oddly there. Let's play. That's so weird. So first time we play with Brandl, oh, he comes rolling in, big smile on his face. We played a match. We had a great time. His game, Brandl's game, you can tell Brandl, he, like, you can tell he doesn't play very often, and he's still just sick.

Is it weird? The first hole. Is it weird playing with Brandel? Like, are you, like, he's going to be critiquing? making me the entire time? It would be, but he's such a, you know how he's like very much

gets into like chirping back and forth and all that? So he plays it off cool. It doesn't make you like nervous but he makes you kind of like laugh about it. And you know like my grip, my posture, my takeaway,

everything. Yeah. I mean, he's right. Dude, he doesn't make you nervous. He tweets at 3 a.m. breaking down Ben Hogan's swing.

Like, and then you got to go play with him for him. And here's like, Barstall Riggs's fucking jittery move right in front of him for. You say he doesn't make you nervous, but your first tee, you were like, fuck,

I'm playing with Brandel. The most lucky thing ever happened because the first, so we played in this men's game, and we started on the 16th T at Iowa worth, which is like a 340 yard par four. So I was able to just pooch a 3 iron out there and then have like a 9 iron in. So luckily I didn't have to like step up there and like rip a driver and hit like a narrow shoot. I just literally like chunk hooked a three iron into the left side of the fairway. And he's like, oh, not a bad shot. It's like, dang fucking God.

But it was not the worst than if you would have stepped up. up and just like duff the driver like just right a hundred percent like chunk right out of balance driver i was like what did i get myself into this guy sucks yeah it's a good start that's a real good start uh he you know i oar this is an incredibly difficult course we the tiger tees they do have tiger tees they're awesome called the tiger tees are like 75 50 we played the palmer tees it's an our own palmer design course uh which is like 7000 and it's a very difficult course like it's rated and sloped up there with like beth page black it's very very difficult and he shot right around like an even par with a couple doubles.

He birded the first hole we played. I was just like, okay, Brando. All right, buddy. And he's still got it. He's just absolutely still got it. You know, he's doing everything he preaches. He's always preaching on Twitter about like lifting up your left heel and your back swing to kind of like relieve some of the pressure and loosen you up and all this stuff.

He, of course, does that. That was going to be my question. Do you think he could you see that he takes away all the things that he preaches as he plays? Totally. His swing just one big, like, Brandel description of what a golf swing should be? You know, it's almost like a Frankenstein of the way Brannel talks about a golf swing. You know what I mean? Basically.

And he just, ah, he's, his move, like it said, like, you can tell he just doesn't play that often. He's not out there, like, grinding. He was kind of just, like, swinging with the boys. And he's just got, like, this pure move. He plays a little butter cut. It was just. Did he play a senior event recently? Yeah, he qualified for the senior British.

That's right. That's right. He went in and shot, like, he, like, he, like, tied for low. medalist in the qualifier shot like two or three under and then played in the British Open the senior British Open with those guys at at St. Andrews at the old course so so we talked about that we played he we played 27 holes with him his wife Bailey came up and joined us for a little nine-hole stretch she's fantastic like they're both very witty they're very chirpy they're having a good time so they fit right in with us and then after they left was me and my boy Greg we just

played 18 more holes so we played played the back nine in Iowa three times in one night. It was like 75 and sunny. It was just spectacular. But I'm going to bring a couple Brandel things in later. We also filmed a little Riggsverse at Iyworth with Brandel on the preview on the commentary. Wow. He's on the commentary.

Oh, that's good. All that nervousness about like chirping your story. He's literally doing that as I'm like approaching the ball. Did it on my putting, like my putting stroke big time. Like as I'm approaching the ball to hit my first putt, he's like now let me tell you, Riggs has one of the most. You'll very rarely see this in putting And I'm like getting ready to address the ball You're fucking kidding me Brandon

You very rarely see someone set up to the ball This horribly Essentially Not even close Essentially what he's saying I'm like dude come on And the greens are lightning So I'm like gee I'm going to blow this off the green

So playing with Brandel Was awesome He is he continues to just be The man It's such a funny departure from this image of him As like a douche When you're watching Golf Channel for 10 or 15 years And he's like Mr. No at all this

that to just this very normal guy who takes his craft very seriously and is more well prepared and all of that. So got to play a brando, very, very cool experience. Turned out, you were in Jackson, though. We both were in Jacksonville. Me and Frank you were.

Yeah, we went to Rough and Rowdy on Friday, which that was my first time being in attendance at a Rough and Rowdy. And I got to tell you, that was maybe the best sporting event I've ever been to. I've been saying this forever. I said there's nothing like going to a Rough and Routy. It's actually, and you went to probably

the best Rough and Rowdy We've ever had. The pay-per-view is obviously awesome, but then we were sitting ringside. In the first 10 fights, there were eight knockouts. 80% of the fights. A knockout rate at this thing was almost like we were juicing the fights. It was like 33 fights. I think Robbie Fox had a stat.

Like only 12 of them went to a decision at the end. It was crazy. The environment in the building, if you ever have a chance to go to Rough and Rowdy, if it comes to your town, you have to go. You cannot miss it. It's the electricity in the air when you go and the fighters are coming in. And these guys are terrible at boxing. They're not that good.

And that's what makes it fun because you never know what's going to happen. They're just, wailing on each other. You were sitting ringside. Trent Daddy saw me at my worst. I'm at my worst when I'm on the mat at Ruff and Routy. What I mean? You love Ruff and Routy. He does.

I love being there. I love watching it. I hate having a 50 pound because I'm a little tweedy dink. Do you have the pad thing on your shoulder? Yeah, it doesn't work, man. You know, my body structure was not built to have this massive camera on a shoulder. Yeah, you're like a dainty, fragile little guy. Yeah, what was the word?

I used like a twinky dink. Yeah. I'm a dinky twink. I'm a dicky twink. And, you know, my body's just, and I don't even think anyone's body is prepared to hold that thing for four hours straight.

People forget that, like, cameraman, like, put the camera down sometimes. I literally have to, have to film the fight, and then the ring girl during the intermit, during the stoppage, and then the fight again,

and then the ring girl, and then the ringle for four hours. Like 14 fights in. Frankie is all away across from me. He's all the way on the other side. 14 fights in. I look over at Frankie, and he just goes,

I'm empty. he mouthed to me I'm empty I collapsed to a knee And we were probably an hour And 45 minutes then He's still out about two hours ago I was gonna ask this

At what point into the thing Do you first go like man I'm tired It's probably like an hour and a half in And then I have to like grind To another two and a half to three hours And it starts to get to the point where like I even told some minute I'm like dude

I'm nauseous right now because I'm squeezing my core so hard To try and relieve the pressure I'm like putting my left arm up I don't know how camera guys do it i mean i'm not really a camera guy i film a guy eat pizza every day like with a little handheld camera you know i don't really like i don't really you know i'm people compare it to like the guy the guy who set up my camera in the morning of ruffer ratty was like yeah i just used this at like the playoffs the other day in houston like and i brought it like like that guy's like running on the field

like getting the celebrations but that guy's like a fucking 300 pound like awesome camera guy who's up and doing that his whole life i'm like dude i'm a little 160 pound fucking twinkie dink and i have a 50 pound fucking people do think you're like this big camera expert you're like I just hold a handheld oh my god just last story on this I got absolutely dominated by a guy in the truck some no name guy that I won't even see with my own eyes absolutely fucking destroyed me uh we're on the we're on the mic and we're getting ready and all business pizza in the truck and he's like camera two which is me he's like are you are you frankly are you on your camera I'm like yes and then I hear this guy from the clouds in the back go camera two I'm going to need you to back focus for a second and I'm like okay uh I'm like

all right, so I started, I just like, I didn't know what that meant. So I just started like zooming in and focusing on things. He goes, can you just find an exit sign or something on the walls and just focus on it? So I did. And he goes, all right, now back focus. And I finally just like, I'm like, hey man, I just don't know what a back focus is. And I hear him go, so you're telling me we have a guy on the mat that doesn't know how to fucking back focus? And I like looked around and I said, Pete, can you let this guy know like who he's dealing with here that he's not dealing with a camera guy?

Frankie Pola, do you know who I am? No, meaning like... You know who I am to him? In the wrong... I'm Dave's guy. No, no, no. I said that in a way, like... I'm the pizza boy.

No, no, no, I said it in a way making me look like the guy who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. I'm like, can you let this guy know that he doesn't have a camera guy on the mat? Like, if he wants to have a camera guy, I'm on the mat, he can come out here and film it himself. Gotcha. I don't know. So I don't know. So I don't know how to back focus?

And the guy, like, looked at me and smirk. He goes, you don't know how to back focus? I'm like, why does everyone think? I know what a fucking back focus? So what is back focusing? You like zoom in on something and then you slowly zoom out while like, while going from full focus to non full focus that the people in the truck can like get a spot on their side. So like if you do happen to go in and out, they can focus it for you in the truck and you don't

ever like come out of frame too much or some shit like that. I still don't even know. But you know, it could have just been like, hey man, I know that you're not really experience up there. Let me talk you through it. Yeah. But whatever. I love he just buried you.

He buried me. And you heard Pico. Like in the background, Pete's fucking cackle. Yeah. Yeah, Roughen out, it was great. It was, uh, saw a bunch of knockouts, saw a bunch of ring girls really up close, which was, you know, nice little cherry on top of the weekend. Keep getting better and better those ring girls.

They were. There were some, there were some great ones. It was some great ones. We had Big Ev on the ropes and he was just smiling, take a picture. He was in between the, dude, not only does he let them into the ring, in between or during the fights, actually, he's sitting on the row of ring girls. And I took a picture. He's got his arm around two of them and just laughing it up, having a good time.

immediate retweet for me. Yeah, I saw that. Great picture. It was a scene, man. Rough and Rowdy was really fun. Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks. ETFS options and cryptos. Got to love the cryptos. All commission free. That's right, commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone, not just the wealthy. I know this because I'm not particularly wealthy. I am not even close to wealthy. And we make this work. Yes. It's just, it's efficient. It's easy. They get all these easy to understand charts. I need charts. I need the data that's just, presented to me that I don't need to understand like I'm sort of some sort of data scientists. Show me one chart and you got my business.

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It's kind of a very interesting evolution that we've seen in this from. It feels like the Players' Championship, where Phil first dropped like, you know, yeah, well, I can play Tiger some time and then Tiger responded with, like, I'll play for whatever makes Phil uncomfortable. Around the Players' Championship,

we kind of learn those guys to become buddies at the Masters when they play to practice round. We've come from that all the way to this, where they are going to play a $9 million pay-per-view match the day after Thanksgiving at 3 p.m. Eastern. It's 1999. They're doing a whole 8,000. HBO 24-7 beforehand.

Such a good idea. Which is a genius. I can remember when they did the first 24-7 HBO, it was Oscar Dale O'Hoya versus Floyd Mayweather. And it was one of the best sports documentary series I've ever seen. So the first time I got into it was when they started doing them for the Winter Classic. I just got the chills when you said that. Yeah.

Those were so fucking good. Four part or eight-part or whatever they were. Oh, my goodness. If you're a hockey fan and you were watching these guys, like in their hotel rooms and the way that they chatter on the ice that that was when they used to like mic them up on the ice and that you could have hear the cursing because then like as the years went on they like went to different um distributors and they like would bleep out the curse right it's no good HBO 7 is the fucking best I remember like Phil Kessel and they're like at his house and he's

playing pool and like chirping all the boys and they're playing video games and like a couple of the young guys who did who were you know their first year so so they're on like rookie salaries still were like living at Phil Kessel's house and they're just it was Unbelievable. I'll never forget the time of one of the teams that were getting, that were getting featured, played the Islanders, and they just filmed the Islanders for a game.

I remember I, like, cried. I watched the 24-7, and I just started to cry. I mean, you saw, like, Kyle Lekosa was pulling, someone was laying down watching a game in the Islander's old Coliseum locker room, a shitty locker room that I didn't know,

like, the back of my hand, I knew exactly where they were. I knew exactly what TV they were watching, what chair they were sitting on. And Kyle Kposa was, like, was, like, pulling someone's chest hair, like, as he was watching a game. And it was just like,

I don't know why, Remember that so vividly? It was like the best moment. No, when I watch my eyes, I don't remember. It was so long ago, it was back when Floyd Mayweather and 50 cent were like best friends. And it was so long ago that 50 cent the whole time he's on camera, he's on a segue. He's just rolling around Floyd Maylor's house on a segue. And Mayweather has like millions of dollars.

They're placing bets on like the Green Bay Packers or something. And 50 cent is just on a segue and an oversized hoodie. 247 is so, so good. I can't even fathom right now. Like my brain just hurts thinking about what Tiger Woods 24th. They're going to do Tiger. They're going to have Phil. I mean, like, like,

Like, are they just going to be at their golf course with them? Like, like, Tiger walking from his room to, like, his kitchen. Right. Those little, like, mini scenes are just, just, that's porn. Seeing, like, what he just does when he's not on. Rated, like, M.A. I might watch it a hundred times. Triple X.

It's a porn. I might watch that a hundred times. Yeah. Like, in the two weeks or whatever. Because each time he'll catch something a little. Oh, yeah. Oh, he walks that way instead of that way. And I'm going to start just doing whatever he does.

Like, every second of his day that this is filmed. I truly think we're going to see some aspects of Tiger that are. going to change our lives. Think so. Like if Tiger, like, does something in his house that, like, the common person doesn't do, I'm going to do that for the rest of my life. The best thing about this is because you're right. I bet Tiger does such weird things every day that he doesn't realize that he's going to do it on 24-7

and it's going to blow people away. Like the way he, like, washes his hands. Yes. I think it's going to be his lingo. Oh. I think he's going to pick up, like, the way that he refers to, like, the dishes or something is going to become, because he has, like, trash memory. Remember?

He's got, like, the glutes. He's like, my glutes weren't activated. instead of just saying like my ass was tight and all that he's always got his like weird tiger lingo that nobody like she's probably obviously surrounded by yes people so no one ever told him like hey you sound like a dumb ass stop saying that stuff they'll just start saying it that yeah so he's going to refer to something and like just a wrong or ridiculous type one i bet he does i bet he uses like military terms all the time i bet he's like all right i got to go to the course of 1400 and then we take a roger i bet it's a lot of that 100 yeah and he like laughs and smirks

at it. So we're going to pick up a lot of that stuff from the HBO 24-7. Can I wait for that? We've already talked about it a little bit, but it's Shadow Creek. There's no tickets are available. It sucks. It's dumb that there's going to be no crowd. My thinking is more that it's probably where that it is. I've seen reports about this. Like Shadow Creek is like a Pine Valley in a lot of ways of like it's a very exclusive. You can't even really just get it. You can't just get a tea time at Shadow Creek. I was looking at up. I think you need like you, you know, I think the only way really could do it is if you stay on the resort and even then you still need to be invited. Correct.

There needs to be multiple levels. You have to get levels. Like number one, you can't be invited unless you're staying on the premise. And then once you're on the premise, there's still no guarantee that you're not allowed to go. So Shadow Creek is this crazy exclusive place. They can't have like thousands of people running around there drinking and all of that. It's a bummer. You want to have crowds and all that.

There's going to be like 500 people apparently that are like media and sponsors and all that type of stuff. So whatever. Phil was on What was it? Like Thursday night football or something like that That he was on the other day And he was given a little A little teaser when he said

We're going to be miced up on the course We're going to have little challenges Let's say That can maybe get in each other's heads You have a downhill putt looks tricky I'll bet you have 50 Gs that you miss it That was kind of Phil's quote So hopefully, ideally they're going to have

That type of stuff going to hold I know one of the things that people were saying that they wish that this match was, was like their own money being put up. Right. So if they're adding in those little like 50 Gs right now,

you miss this. You're right. That's the juice. That's what's going to make it different from everything else. And I've said this and I've been writing this and I'll say it again. We have been preaching that we need,

they have PGA tour live, which is great. But even when Tiger's on the feature group, he's only featured one third of the time because he's always in a group with two other guys. And they show these other guys for 66% of the time. I don't even want to watch the other guys.

Hit. I want to watch Tiger. Woods watch them hit i want to watch uh we need tiger woods live at just a channel that only shows tiger woods so this thing's 1999 people were bitched about it's pay per view but bottom line is i would pay 20 bucks and i wrote this to watch tiger woods do almost anything i would pay 20 bucks to watch him go buy groceries i'm obviously going to pay 20 bucks to watch him beat up phil mickleston in gamble and chirp for four hours straight so my question becomes like like honestly at what like what level of blandness would you have

to get to that you wouldn't pay 20 bucks. I saw on this sheet. Some of the things you wrote, when you wrote, Slee. Sleet. With the question mark, I laughed out loud. But it's still, I would still give you my debit card for $20. See, I don't know.

Like, it's worth a conversation. Like, would I pay $20 to watch Tiger Woods by a guy? Like, imagine just watching Tiger be like, should I get like honeycomb or like what should I get in terms of cereal or something like that would be a preposterous. Dave has entered the room staring at me. For what? congratulations oh congratulations Dave I mean I don't think he ever would have moved unless I said that that was way better than him being like you have to come five I was giving you a hook I thought he's

all the listeners here my heart's racing right now right Dave just walked into the room whenever he walks into the room we have no idea what he could want right it could be like anything either you know your whole family is dead or like you're dead because you didn't do something like it could go from that that whole range right there but it always ends with like you're dead we're in a room in the glass door and I've been watching Frankie watch Dave walk around for the past five and when he opened up that door and just stared at me like the Red Sox for the

last thing I thought about I'm like oh fuck The fact that all he wanted you to do was say congratulations of it and you know what you said it You know what I'll take that I'll take that L that you know the Red Sox won the world series but that was a really good interaction between me and Dave right there no doubt I said thank you you you're still in this room

that could have went a lot worse and people understand such a battle at this freaking office that if you got dragged out of this room right now, we might not be able to record the podcast till like midnight. Right. Right. It's like ruins everybody's day. Ruins everybody's day. If there's like,

if we're off by a 15 minute window, we all have to be here until tomorrow morning. Yep, that's pretty much wrap. And then like Jake's got to edit it until like two in the morning. Crazy. Now like we're trying to do this in the middle of the day. Frankie gets dragged out of the room.

Everything screwed. That interaction was fantastic. I am now more comfortable now knowing that Frankie's comfortable. Because like I said, I felt great. Watched Dave. So I'm at kind of this angle where I couldn't really see, but I could feel uncomfortable.

You guys were? And he was kind of throwing everything off. Now, let's get back to the important stuff. I'd legitimately watch Tiger Woods count his change on his bedroom floor. See, the question becomes this. Like, it's an act. The match is four hours long. Yeah.

So you got to be thinking, like, what type of footage would give you, like, two to four hours of Tiger Woods? I think him sleeping is probably where I'm, I would draw the line. Like, although there is the, there is like a possibility while he's sleeping that if he like got up to go piss or something, that it would be worth.

Or maybe, he has like night terrors. Maybe a lot. Maybe, or maybe he lets out a fart. I'd watch a tiger like mid fart sleep. True. Because then it'd be,

yeah, that'd be something you couldn't miss. You'd have to be able to forever. It's like, oh, no, Tiger's spinning in his bed. Uh-oh. He must be having a nightmare.

And then he's just like, no. No. Fire hydrant. Oh. So like, obviously. Yeah. So bottom of,

if I would fucking watch Tiger would sleep, if I'd pay 20 bucks to watch him sleep, I'm going to watch him. I would watch him take all the change out of his, you know, his water jug. I'd let him, I'd watch him pour it all over his floor.

And then I'd take all those little rolls, those quarter rolls and nickel rolls and dime rolls, and I'd watch him just count his change and tell stories. This made me thinking something. You know what he should be doing? He should have a Twitch drink. Yeah. He should be playing COD on a Twitch drink.

No, he should do what, um. Shia LaBuff did where he just like filmed himself watching his own movies. Tiger, well no. But he did film himself

like two days watching movies. Watching himself. While Shia LaBuff filmed himself watching himself for 24 hours. Imagine we watched Tiger Woods watch his greatest moments. That would be awesome. And like like like the big moments

where he started tearing up like like Shia LaBuff did. God that'd be awesome. So you're saying like we watch Tiger Woods watch what I watch every night basically. Yeah. He doesn't like a barso electric chair He's on B-slings checking out his own show. Yes.

Do you think he knows that B-Sling? You think he's ever watched the B-Slings? He might be B-Sroduction. It wouldn't surprise me if B-Slings comes up. Because golfers watch film, right? Oh, yeah. Just like another athlete's too. Yeah, there's a famous story.

Tiger went to Golf Channel and, like, not, and I can't remember what year it was, but he requested from then all of their archived footage of his performances and, like, tournaments from, like, a couple years prior because you wanted to watch his swing. Right. So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, like, these film sessions, he just pulls up

of B-slings, like, perfectly orchestrated every single shot from every single tournament. Especially because, like, if I happen to stumble upon B-slings, like, Tiger can stumble upon B-slings. He's just out there. Tiger Googles himself? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. He just types in, like, Tiger Woods and hits the news

button? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. He seems, yeah, you're, at that level, you're narcissistic enough that you were... And especially from the Big Miss, there's Hank Haney tells anecdotes about when Hank Haney and him were, like, riding the same SUV to the Masters and stuff and Tiger was sitting in the front seat being like, oh, they're at me again talking about TMZ and all those. Yeah, and all that one book.

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Tiger Woods. That guy was so cool. I think about that all the time. He was great. I like how much work it went into just writing about a guy's life. They wrote their goal before the book was they wanted to put a new piece of tiger information on every single page. Which is a hard thing to that. That's amazing.

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but he like gets in the mix. He gets in the mix. Some of my dumb ass tweets, like the fact that Armin Gattain is scrolling through his timeline and sees some of that stuff. Like, you know, is a little bit embarrassing? Like I live tweet Islander games. Like does Armand Ketian? There's Armand like, yeah. Like he often think about like I have stuff like, dude, some guy followed me yesterday. He's like the U.S. ambassador. His name is like, it was a crazy follow. I won't be able to find it. It was like too far away. but like I was thinking like he followed me mid-islanders live tweeting like do you think this guy's just checking out this shit like you think he's a big islanders fan I don't think so I wonder like He's probably, during Iowner games,

like if someone types in Islanders or Isles into just the search part of Twitter, you're probably one of the top people to show up. I wish I had this guy's name. It was like laugh out. You guys got me in my head about Armicottain. I wonder if he loves like my bachelor tweets. Yeah. Like that makes me feel dumb.

But anyway, in that book, I mean, it's obvious that like you know that Tiger Woods gets real rattled when people write stuff about him. Yeah. All those reporters he would like meet people for dinner and shit. That also goes to show that no one at any level doesn't pay attention to how they are perceived.

Yeah. Like if he has anybody. He would be like, he would be the one guy who's like, I don't care. I'm Tiger Woods. You have to know what people, you have to know what people are saying about you. That's how you, yeah, otherwise you get exposed in like an interview and people are like, what are you talking about? What is the most boring thing that Tiger could do that you would? Like, if he was just reading a book.

If he was reading a book for four hours straight, like what I pay 20 bucks to watch. Yeah, because like, what if he does a part? What if he finds a part really interesting, like closes the book and looks out the window? Like, that's electric. Stares longingly out the window. window and like yeah starts critically thinking I'd watch him lick his own elbow

try to lick his elbow I'd watch him try to lick his nose that's a no brain because that's like a competition right is Tiger Woods going to lick the tip of his nose like would I watch him go for a run yes but that's so boring it's like watching him at an athletic ability

this is what happens when a guy is so famous but he keeps himself so like close to the vest would you watch Tiger Woods practice his own signature yes dude that's like it's like artistic to it it's flowing it's almost like you can compare it to like the way

looking out of the wrong angle it's less about what would you pay for him to do it's how much would you pay for him to do that thing like how much would you pay for him to watch uh 20 bucks is nothing dude i spent 20 bucks on this dumb as shit this dude i wake up in new york city and i pay 20 dollars that's what it is agreed i went to a really expensive uh grocery store and i bought fresh mizadele for like 14 dollars i thought you you think since you're like worked in an italian restaurant your whole life you could just say mutzado i had this guy you redeem yourself out of I bought the fresh mozzarella this weekend.

I said that to my roommates and they're like, all right, we're all from Long Island. Like, you really don't need to say it like that. But I said that that's how it comes off my tongue naturally. If I say fresh mozzarella, I feel like I'm being a changing, like, I'm like, you're spitting in the face of your ancestors. No, I feel like I'm saying it in the harder way, like fresh mozzarella. Like, that's just not how I say it. I have to like, I have to. Your natural tongue of saying mozzarella is mozzarella.

Montadelle. Are you fish fucking me with that? I would pay 20. $20 to hear Frankie take the way, the weird way he says things and say them in a normal voice. It makes me uncomfortable to say fresh mozzarella. I mean, but you realize this is bounce to my head when I say. With like Belariv and you do this shit to stuff and now you're just telling me, Matsutel is like the normal way that you say.

Fresh mozzarella. Any, why are you laughing at that? Well, you're here, you're like, Legals Nacional. And then all of a sudden you're just like mozzarella and then you look at us like we're crazy for thinking of your church and it. You say, all right, here we go. All right. How do you say the, um, the, the, how do you, how do you, how do you, pronounce the cheese that goes on that goes in like lasagna and that goes on parmesan no no it's

you know the creamy cheese i don't know mozzarella no regut ricotta not all the say ricotta ricotta cheese yeah i would say ricotta it's regut that's what you would say that's what it is i mean now you're just being an ass i'm not being an asshole it's fresh mizade out and it's regut you get you say raugut and manic you do say manicati do you say bacon Manicotti. What do you say managut? Manicotti. Oh, fuck off. You're, no, you're the asshole in this situation.

Don't you try to spend this box. If I went to an Italian restaurant and I was like, can I please have some fresh manicati? They'd be like, yeah, sure. And then they'd say back, do you want some fresh mozzarella too? I don't like to go to restaurants get mocked. You're going to get mocked. No, you're not.

Because 95% of the customers were going to say it the same way. When I went to Barley's with Bobby Fox like a couple weeks ago, how do you say the, the fried thing. Calamade. Is that how you say that? Fried Kalamari, bud. Kalamari. Who said Kalamar?

Your dad. That's 100% correct. That's 100% correct. I was like, Hey, you guys want some fried calamat? And do you want some fresh mozzarella? And then for dinner, do you want a bake man of gut?

Yeah, you're eating Italian food. You're not elongating everything at the end. Like you're an asshole. You're not going to California pizza kitchen. You're going. How dare you? I knew that was going to art. Trent.

How dare you? Love CPK. I'm a CPK boy. Your dad was like you want some for appetizers. You want some fried calamari? And I was like, no, we want fried calamari. Calamari, I sometimes say calamari. Okay.

But, you know, Manigat and Fresh Mets adele. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. To be fair. Yeah. And to go back, I don't know why I said to be fair. To go back, I spent $15 on Fresh Mottale. If you don't think I'm spent $20 in Tiger Woods playing golf, you're fucking insane.

It's crazy. Anybody bitching about this is just, they're just, they're just, uh, they got a big old dump in their pants or being a loser. People who say like, oh, I don't want to be $20, they'll drop like $200 at the bar. Easily. Right. Easily. It's insane what people would pay $20 for and then they're complaining about this.

It's like it's also like there's no need to complain. Just if you're really that upset, just don't watch. I don't know. I don't understand what the problem is. And it's also, it's a Friday, three o'clock after day after Thanksgiving. Nobody's working that day. Nobody on the planet works that day. Most people's significant others are going to be doing some form of Black Friday shopping.

So you grab a couple of the boys, have them bring a couple beers and Venmo you like six bucks, and you guys split the thing. Next to you know, it costs you nothing. You're having a great time on a Friday afternoon. There's nothing else on TV. You get to watch Tiger Woods. Plus, you had watched the 24-7 leading up to this. You'll be all jacked up. That's free.

That literally used to sell me on watching the Winter Classic. Oh, yeah. Yes. So now-watching. Right. That's what made the Winter Classic interesting. Correct. It's just a hockey game that's like, oh, it's outside.

Cool. This 24-7 sold, like, sold me on this so much more than just the actual event. It really did. So now you're telling me this thing's going to be, let's say this 24-7 is going to be like an hour long, and you're going to get four hours of golf. So you're getting five hours of amazing, like, Tiger Woods with Phil Mickelson as like a side-kick. No-brainer. Option.

Five hours of that stuff for 20 bucks. It's a joke. It's a no-brainer. So, yes, we can all be like, oh, it'd be cool if they put up all their own money. It'd be cool if they had fans and all that. Bottom line, we're going to pay and watch it. We'd watch the guy freaking sleep for 20 bucks. The Sunday's scleries.

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Oh, Shown. All weekend, I was getting tweets and I was thinking about, we actually need to find out if Colby bet this thing. He didn't. I texted him when he had like a three or four shot lead going into the final round, and I texted him as like, hey, you see your boy, and he goes, what are you talking about? And I was like, you know, you're not going to want to look at the leader war, but you should. And so he looked it up, and he's like, this is like the one week.

I even know, he's like, where the hell are they even playing? I was like, it's this special event over in Shanghai, this WGC. He's like, Jesus Christ. Then he came at second. He's all cold. He's all fired up. So obviously Tony Feenow is making a goddamn brand out of this. And that's not the best.

I mean, Phil Mickelson will tell you. It's not the best, but it's also not the worst. At least he's not losing to the same person each time, right? Yeah. True. And yeah, I mean, if you finish second every tournament, I think you would take that, to be honest with you. You know much money you would be? Yeah, but it depends, right?

Like, are you, you're a professional golfer. You're at the level. where you could be winning majors and fucking tournaments every single week and you're just finishing and second every single time it's got to kill him i would like what's the difference between him make like he wants to win he's already making money regardless of where he finishes i don't know i don't know like making like he would i mean he'd make between like 700 000 and like 1.1 or 2 million dollars every single week if he finished second every tournament can you imagine that yeah it's definitely i mean it's better than not finishing second i'll give him that it's really good like he's putting himself

in a real good spot financially and in like the leaderboards. He's fighting himself in the fucking Ryder Cup. Like he's still a really good golfer, but you don't think he wants to like I know he wants to win. But would, all right. So if you told Tony Fee now going into next year, you're going to finish second in 10 tournaments, but you're not going to win one. You think he takes it? Oh, man, that's tough.

No, I don't think he does. But I think if you told him, I don't even know that he would take it, but I think that if he were like a 60 year old man looking back on his life, he would be like, oh, you could have told him. me I could have finished second in every tournament. Let's say he plays in 28 tournaments a year. He finishes second every single time. He's on every Ryder Cup team, like you said. He's in every single major.

He's making like a million dollars a week. Yeah. He's like probably going to be like the number two ranked player in the world. The more he does it, the more it becomes a story that he just can't fucking like. But then he's in the media. He's got this great. Like he's incredibly brand a bit, brandable. Every post game interview though is going to be like, Tony.

You just couldn't fucking do it 26 weeks in a row. It would become such. Finish, man? Can you finish in bed? Like, where does it end? Yeah. Like, like, sex joke from Frank. Like, where do you not finish now?

Finishing second in bed is usually a good thing, though. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Wow. Fuck yes. That's a great point. Trent, dead. I mean, you are a stud if you finish second.

That's right. All the time. Damn. Every time. Shit. Tony Pino. That was. Tony Fino fuck, man.

That was the biggest, tuchet in the history of the podcast. You just dominate. I'm looking at the, Tony Fiedowx That was sick Yeah That'd be yeah Way to go

Wow Thank you I'm looking at the leaderboard He's still cleared a mill yesterday So he's no For second But you know

Wow I mean we can't We gotta move on Trent into the conversation Zander Shoffley Third win He won twice in 2017 Didn't win any times

Last year Although he was One of the guys That was tied I believe For the lead In the final round Of the British Open

So he was right there Then he obviously wins this This is a big event WGC, a ton of talent over there, by the way. I think, oh, this was a stat. Brandl dropped some stat on me while we're in the cart. Of course he didn't.

We were talking about the tournament a little bit. He's like, do you really care about it? I was like, no, not really. It's like, okay. And he's like, but we were talking about the field. He was like, it's sneaky crazy field. I think he said there's only been, it's 22-ish, I think. Only been 22 players in the history of golf that have been ranked number one in the world

because the rankings have only been around for so long. and Tiger was in first for like 10 years or whatever. And he goes six, I don't know if it's 22 or 24, something around that. But he goes, six of the 22 players are in the field at Shanghai this week. In some random Shanghai tournament. I mean, it's not random. It feels random because it's in Shanghai. It is a WGC.

Yeah. And the money's a ton of money behind it, which they have to put behind it so that people will go to Shanghai to play golf. Right, right. But it was. Like, the field was crazy. How many good players were in there. But anyway, Zander Shoffley with his third PGA tour win. He went birdie, birdie, birdie to win.

He buried 17 and 18, and then birdied the first playoff hole. For you now, a little bit of a collapse, Mr. Second place. And then we got Cameron Champ, wins the Sanderson Farms. Again, this is another tournament. We're not going to sit on the podcast and pretend like we give a shit that much about the Sanderson Farms. I do like some storylines. This Cameron Champ guy, he's been one of the more highly anticipated guys to come on tour because he just destroys the golf ball.

Brandl also told me the car. He's like, oh, yeah, Cameron Champ flies. He air mails Rory McElys drives. Wow. Wow. He said he airmails where Rory's drives end up. His average this week, he was number one. His average was 334-yard drive. That was his average.

I found this quote. Jonathan Wall reported for the PGA tour that when Champ began testing his new ping, we're not going to talk about that, his new three iron. It actually went too far. Champ was hitting the club 280 to 285 yards, nearly as far as his three-wood. So he backed down to a four iron in the same type of design, which he still hit in excess of 270 yards. That's, I mean, hits his four iron 270 yards. Oh, my God.

Do you imagine that? I'm looking him up. I've never even seen what he looked like. He's not a big guy. He's not a big guy. No, he's not. There was a, there was a clip of one of his drives where you could see kind of the trajectory of the golf ball going off. And it was like the most magical thing I've ever seen.

It was low, but it also, it looks like he hits a tiger. Stinger, but it flies like 3.30 in the air. Jesus. It's insane. This guy's got real potential with that name too. Cameron, Champ. I mean, Champ is here. Champs here. It's 23. Born in 1995? I'm still not. I mean, I know you were born and like, I don't remember when, but. 93. Yeah. It's still weird to me. Yeah. He's just winning tournaments and shit. Because those years, like, 95, 93 stuff, I actually had like a conscience at that point. Yeah, I was like a person. I'd say 95 was, yeah, definitely remember those years. The weirdest thing is now guys are getting drafted in sports. Like, yeah, guys are getting

Islanders are drafting guys born in 2001. It's outrageous. That's crazy. Like guys from like Russia and shit. That doesn't even make sense. He also champs. A lot of people,

hardcore golf Twitter was really getting a little rattled by Cameron Champ because he hit like less than 50% of the fairways all week. You know, they want to put all this premium on fair. I will say that it does get a little bit boring when a guy just rips driver and then hits a wedge to like 10 feet and makes pot.

Like that's not that fun to watch. That's the Dustin Johnson playbook right there. That's the DJ playbook at all. that. Cameron Champ needs to get credit because he made a 38-foot birdie putt on the 16th hole that gave him a two-shot lead and then made a 15-footer on 17-foot car. So his putter was lights out to kind of get the job done. Cameron Champ, keep an eye out for him. He crushes the ball. He's going to be very interesting to watch. That was the only takeaway that I really cared about from the Sanderson Farms from the gallery. We got a handful from the galleries. Remember

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But you really want to show how the ball is made. That's like the reason why we're there. So it's like that was a very informative video that I would have watched a thousand times if I saw that when I'm scrolling through Twitter just as a golf fan. Like how the fuck do they make the ball that I spend $12, $13 on every single time I play golf? I still watch it and then I look at some of the – I grab some of them out of the box in my room and look at them. And I'm just like, this thing is amazing. Right. If you're a golfer and you play ProV1, that you should be ProV1 X is that the best balls in the world, you should know the process that goes into making that ball.

Even if you're not the best golfer in the world, you should know what you're playing. you're spending money on. I mean, I would love to know what everything I use. Like, I'd love to watch a video on everything I use and how it's made. For sure. Maybe next we'll do how Titleist makes golf clubs. Because that would be awesome.

Like, because honestly, I think there's something in my driver that's illegal. There's something in the TS3 that's not, it's not, it's not, I'd be like nervous to open it up. Like,

actually, we don't want to get anybody in trouble. Like, you're just showing us that we have to blur it out. When I tell you that I have not hit a bad, knock on wood, I have not hit a bad drive yet with my TS3. That's a fact.

There's never been one time where I've been like, fuck, I missed it. Like sometimes I miss, I hit the fair, I hit the, I hit the rough. I pull it a little bit. Like one time I hit it like over the trees, but it like kicked out into the rough a little bit. But I've never once missed hit my driver. Of course you kicked out into the, into the fairway. It's like you got a ProV1 TS3 combo. That's insane.

It's an unbelievable. It's unbelievable. When you practice things, it's illegal. When you practice swing, it makes a noise that goes through the air. It's like, whew. The feel of it, too, you look at your like, it's almost like too light and too perfect to hit the ball as well as it does. And then when you actually make contact it, like, it's almost like the club absorbs the ball and then like shoots it into the air. And everyone has this sense of like, oh, tidalist drivers haven't always been the best.

Like, how is that one? And then you show them it and they're like, oh, fuck. It's been more of a shock factor for people to see this new titleless driver because like titles has not always been known for the drivers. And now they just knock this one out of the. the park. It's crazy. Everybody's raving about him. Anyways. So he goes on to say tie was obviously the most popular ball.

Over half the field uses a ProV1 or ProV1X. Normal event, there will be around 400 to 500 dozen title of this golf ball is shipped in along with 200 to 300 dozen of the next leading manufacturer. Staff members from the host club or local PGA section operate the range for each tournament. They pick their balls off the range, sort them into buckets based off the type of ball it is, wash them, dry them. says yes, they are typically dried because players do not like wet practice balls. Shout to Bryson Dishambo. I feel like that was a dig at DeCenbo from our guy at the PGA. He might have made a dig at him.

I love it. I'm going to ignore that. Then they bag them, bring them to the tent on the range for caddies to pick up. To answer your question of where the practice balls go after the event, they are boxed up and ship back to each manufacturer. I do not believe they are used again at another event. As in my experience, they are always brand new balls when we receive them in boxes for each event. typically the manufacturer will sell them to courses around the country to use for their driving ranges. Now, as you can imagine, not every single practice ball is accounted for when sending them back after the event.

Some, quote, unquote, disappear after the tournament, which I love. But anyways, very, very interesting insight on that. The fact that they sent 400 to 500 dozen titleless golf balls for each event, he's a staggering. Six thousand golf balls. That's just unbelievable. Should you do that math real quick? I had to type it in on my calculator. To your calculator app?

Yeah, because there's no chance I was doing that. You could a lot of that. Yeah, also, like, we're not going to fact check it, although everyone listening will. So that's smart. Yeah, 6,000. That's amazing. So anyways, very interesting process. That goes on there.

Chelsea, Chelsea submits. I just got into golf. I've got the bug. What is a cool keepsake to commemorate each round of golf I play for background? I like to keep every ticket stub of a sporting event that I attend. So, this is a very good question. I would say the number one easiest thing to do is pencils. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Pencils. I mean, any, basically every single course you ever play is going to give you a free pencil. So you don't have to spend a bunch of money to do it. You don't have to even like really remember to do it outside of just when they give you a scorecard and your pencils either on your cart or at the first tee when you pick it up or in the pro shop. You grab that pencil. You just keep it. And she also was like, should I keep every score card?

I did that. I used to do that when I lived in Boston because I lived, it was like five of us. we all play golf together all the time. So it was actually really fun when you get boozed up and we go pull out some of the scorecards and talk about some of the matches that we had because I, you guys know me, I'm the notorious scorecard keeper. Yep. I keep a card.

I keep all the numbers, all the strokes. I keep it in very, like my penmanship I take very seriously on there. I love keeping the scorecard in good order. So I think that's a good thing to keep, but only if you're like pretty diligent with the score. I think if you keep like a sloppy dog shit scorecard, it doesn't work as well. But the pencil's a no brain. No, I think the no brand for me is, I mean, you got to spend a little money.

but it's the it's the ball markers yeah everyone has their own little logo on it you can get really cool ones i think like i'll i have a nice little baggy of all the ones that i've collected people now give them to me when they go to different golf courses like i've abandoned doing one from uh my my girlfriend's cousins that went out there and her dad when they went there without me and they brought me back correct right after i told you all by the way did i even talk to you guys about how they brought me back a t-shirt like a like a college shirt i mean they brought me back a quarter zip and like stuff meanwhile from abandon yeah but when i gave her dad he he he's the Augusta thing.

He's like, well, I wouldn't ever wear anything that I don't go to. He, and he let that slip out in front of you and he didn't remember.

Yeah, so what do we think about that? Wow, he did it to you after you did it to him. You should have brought me back a cordisip when he blatantly knew.

You think he was doing that as like a, like a fuck you, Frankie? I mean, now, like, now I say that loud

I think so. Like, I brought him back something from Augusta and he said, thank you so much. And then like, a year later,

he's like, oh, like I would never get anything from a place I haven't been to. And then he brought you back. I remember last year when I bought you that fucking. And then this year, they went to bandit and I really wanted to go and I couldn't make it. And there's like,

here's a cordisip from like the best golf course in the world. I was like, thanks. Wow. Yeah, I think he's sticking it to you a little bit. I think so a little bit. I think he hurts. I think he's like I had to stay.

He's a Ranger fan. So that just says. Yeah, he's coming at you. That's a little bit like I had to stare at that stupid Augusta thing. You got me all year. Even though I'd never been to Augusta. like now you have to stare at this bandit thing all the time exactly it's like a silent war going on

between you too but but in reality the silent war is just giving us cool merch from all these awesome golf courses so then when you eventually end up going i got all the shit you can yeah it's a pretty good war to be a part it's a great war but yeah i love the uh the coins like i have an awesome one from the boulders golf course in arizona it's like my favorite so the advantage of the coin over the pencil usually is you get the logo the pencil usually doesn't have a logo you got me you got me one from wing foot that's fucking sick yeah because the logo wingfoot's so awesome. Unbelievable. So yeah, so the ballmarker is a better one

in sense of make sure you get the logo but you do have to be diligent like go to the pro shop usually and get an actual ball marker. I have a buddy who does logo balls which just wants one logo ball. So every course I go to I always get my buddy JR, shout to JR, always get him a logo ball. Did you get him a guest logo ball? Oh yeah. I mean he's got almost everywhere I've been he's got wingfoot. He's got sanders. He put him on display.

He's got a display case where they have these little slots for him. And he had to get, you had to get like a second one because the ball, you know, there's so many of them now. I just keep sending it to them. God, do you feel like you have dropped the ball, no pun intended, on not doing something with all these amazing? Or have you done something? You probably have. No, I haven't, I have, I will say I definitely have probably a pencil from every single one. I haven't done anything with them yet.

I am going to get a display case going because I think the pencil. For the pencils? Yeah, because, and because I think it's, the pencil, too, is like a practical thing. So is the ball. marker but the pencil it's like it was used at the course you know what I mean so it has a little bit of kind of a little story to it and all that so I do that's another

reason I really like the pencil but again it does suck that it lacks the logo and you get some places that have shitty pencils right a lot of them like the shinnock pencil is like this shinnock red and it's just oh it just sticks out like oh look at that thing you put that in a nice

dark mahogany case and it's like a nice thin one that goes from top and all the pencils Trying on it maybe if you could. That's right. And then another good one, but it's not as effective as T's, but not all places have their own teas that are noticeable. So that's a little tougher. So pencil, ballmarker is a great one.

Scorecard's a good one and the local ball. Scorecard gets dicey because if you like, if you mess it up, if you smudge it, if you hit a really bad round, you don't even want to think about it. It's not as you get like the pencil of the ballmark. You don't have to think about how you played. You just know you went there. Scorecard incredibly difficult to display. Correct. Do you want to show the inside, the score?

You're going to cover your whole fucking wall in your apartment with scorecards? Correct. It's just very difficult to do. One of the most important things we do for our health every single day is brush our teeth. I brush my teeth twice a day. I have mentioned this before. My father is a dentist, and he is all in on the fact that these electric type toothbrush, the quip, they're just better. They are better for you.

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Get-quip.com slash 4. Ryan says to this weekend We're playing And these slow fucks Wouldn't let us pass Let me add that we play Twilight round So we weren't sure

If we're gonna finish Before the sun goes down What is the protocol To deal with people? It's a tough one Yeah Like what's the protocol of deal Like do you

Do you tell them like Hey you're slow We're gonna go past you We're gonna play through you I guess they don't offer to you What do you do I As fucked up as it may be

You look at them And see what kind of person they are You're talking about a fight No, you just like, you can tell if it's going to be a problem. Like if it's a couple like really slow old dudes that are like, they look like they couldn't hurt a fly and they're like, you know what? Like we're just playing.

We're hitting. Maybe go up there and be like, listen, guys, we're buzzing by you. Like, if you don't like it, whatever, like, you're not even going to catch us once we get value. But if it's a couple, like, young dudes that are like probably going to get confrontational and, you know, they're not going to accept what you're saying, then I don't even think it's worth it. You know, it's a big move is the hand on the hips on the tee. Yeah, that is a big hand on the hips guy. Yeah, you walk up to the front.

of the T like as close as them as you can get and you just kind of put your hands on your hips right we call that passive aggression and also you talk loudly to your group like can you believe there's two holes ahead of them yeah or you drop a couple of fucking assholes say or man we're really running out of daylight and they're like right yeah I don't think it's I don't think it's outside of if you give them a hole or two and they're not budging they're not saying anything and you're clearly waiting on them on every shot I don't think it's uh out of bounds to say hey guys like do you mind if we play through really quickly we're really fast or something like that but then you run the risk of when you do play through them if you hit a couple bad shots yeah

and then you take forever you're it's like it'll ruin your hold no i've actually done it where they're i've asked guys to go past them these nice old guys right because that's my that's my crew that look for to ask them yeah down the bridges the bridges and i stepped up to the tee and i duff the ball seven feet and they're like oh like good thing you're getting ahead of us now we have to fucking wait behind this. Like, you know, it's like,

it's like that feeling of like, especially, it's the same, it's the same feeling as when you wait on the fairway and when you're 230 yards away from the green. You're like, I'm going to hit the green. So I'm going to wait for them to get off.

And everyone behind you is like looking at you. And then you duff that shot. It's like, fuck. You made a promise and you didn't keep that promise. Yeah. So I, you know,

size them up. It sounds like the move is to size them up. Yeah. And then act accordingly afterwards, which can be just ask them. It could be, uh, it's either kind of just ask them,

give them a couple looks or the third one we didn't really talk about is like just skip them just go to a different hole if the course is full and it's twilight and you're just trying to get as much golf as possible now that becomes tricky if you have like your career round going you don't want to like mess up the whatever but those are kind of your options um mac says so me and a buddy are joining an indoor sim league for the winter and i've been losing my shit all week trying to figure out what the hell to wear to it not as much worried about like a polo or quarter zip and golf fans but am I a total asshole for wearing golf shoes? Should I just wear normal sneakers?

Should I wear normal clothes? What should I wear? You're the guy to ask for this one. I've actually, I want to join a Sim League because now I'm in the city and I have my golf clubs. And I want to join one. So I would actually like to know the answer to this because I don't want to look like an asshole. This would be something I would just like Mac. I think everybody worries about this.

The first time you go to a Sim situation, an indoor simulator simulator league, I think everyone kind of is like. You're trying to feel each other out? I would show up with a backpack full of every outfit I own. Yeah. Because I would be so nervous about that. You know, I think like, if you wear golf shoes, I think you're an asshole. Great. You just kind of wear sneakers, I think.

It's turf. You can get on with just wearing, like, athletic sneakers. Yeah. You would wear to, like, now I will say that they're, you know, simulators, especially in the city here in New York, they're way more common than they are in, like, most just normal towns and stuff. The first simulator, when I was living in Boston, And there was like the simulator placed 40 minutes outside the city that during the winter we would go to like once or twice a winter. And every time we went, we got very into it.

Like we geared up. We wore polos tucked into our golf pants, golf shoes. Like we got into it. We were like, this is a fucking round of golf. We had our normal match, like our normal foursome. We'd get a match going. It was awesome. Now that it's a little bit more common in the city, like we just go after work and just wear whatever you wore to work and sneakers.

So somewhere in there, I think golf shoes are a little bit outrageous unless you're like using. Yeah, golf shoes are probably too much. Just kind of wear, like, no. Now you show up with your full bag, right? So with the ones here, I do not, but that's because the one down at five iron, shout out to our guys, a five iron, which is the place I was talking about.

They have a bunch of sets. Now that I've got my new tidalist clubs, if I know I'm going to the simulator, I'll bring, like, my driver and my seven iron so I can hit balls. And now that I've got my new clubs and I'm really excited about it, I haven't played a four round of golf there since,

but if I knew I was like Friday night, I would probably bring my whole bag, yes. Okay. We're going to have to talk, too. I need to get into a simulator. We'll get into some simulator, actually. That's not a problem, Frankie. Alex says, needs help settling an argument over a courtesy rule.

Him and his best friend created a rule years ago, where if you hit a pretty good or okay drive or shot and can't find it, you do not take a penalty. We're talking about those balls that seem to roll a couple feet into the rough. You can't find it because of leaves or because of something stupid, the sunlight. their tunnel lead, whatever it is. We call it the gallery rule,

which is a great name for it, by the way, implying that if we were on the PGA tour and had a gallery watching at all times, we would never have lost that ball. Love this rule. This is an all-time rule. I wish that the PGA would put this rule into, like, the actual rule book.

The USDA. I'm sorry, the USDA was actually a personal friend, USG. Yes, the USDA would put this into their rulebook for, you know, the average golfer so that we can, that would speed up the game too where it's like, listen, And we've looked for the last five minutes.

I can't fucking find this ball. I know, I know I hit this right here. It's right here. It was right here. Where did it go? Calling it the gallery rule is the, it's it. I'm sold. It's done.

The gallery rule is an official thing now, according to the four play golf podcast, which we are very, you know, we have a strong voice. Influential? Yeah, influential and credible voice in golf rulings. The gallery rule, it's over. It's done. It's in place. Everybody knows this.

The fact that he phrased it like, If we're on the BJ door and there was a gallery, we would have found this ball in two seconds. Everybody would know where it was, but we're not, so we just can't find it. It's absolutely spot on. What it should be is a free drop in the area.

If the majority of the people in the foursome, so three out of four people, agree that like the gallery rule can be applied, you pick the most likely area where the ball ended up. You have the guy just drop your ball and no stroke penalty and you just play normally from there. Yeah, and it really would only come into play when, you know,

later in the season, you know, you know you hit it right here. Like he said, three feet into the rough. You know it's there. It's underneath a leaf somewhere. It's the place is covered with leaves. You're holding up your force and you're like, guys, I know. We all saw this ball roll right here. I can't find it.

Am I really going to have to fucking take a stroke here? Usually the guys in your group would say no. But the fact that we have now basically said there is now a rule called the gallery. Gallery rule. You can do it every single time. Yeah, the gallery rule, it's a no-brainer. Yeah. Gallery rule is great.

So I love it. Alex, I think that's absolutely genius. Great. Everybody should apply it. I think the best way to do it, like I said. Majority of the group agrees that the gallery rules in effect. You settle on the most likely place. You just drop it.

Boom, you play it. It saves everybody time. It saves you a bunch of strokes. We're not playing, you know, this isn't the U.S. Open here. It's fine. Everything's cool. Do that. Brett asks update on the Riggs versus Whitney match.

I get this a lot. And I think that I talked about it all on the radio show, but I don't know if I did on the podcast. But essentially what happened was, We were originally going to play like September 20th, and then that barstool, we just, that that date wasn't going to work. Then we were going to do October 20th, and we had a big meeting with everybody at Barstool and essentially decided that the bandwidth of Barstool right now, if we're doing the college football tour, we're doing the sports advisors football show on Sundays and a million other things going on at the exact same time that our bandwidth here to produce a golf match the way that it needs to be. produced. Filming a golf match and producing a golf match is apparently,

and it makes sense, the most impossible task of all time from a production standpoint with following the golf ball, interviewing the players, whatever, all of that stuff. And getting a crowd involved, all of that,

setting it up so that we can figure out the right medium to put it on so the people can watch it, that we, Barstool decided we need to do it next summer. When the dog days of summer, there's nowhere near the amount of things going on at Barstool Sports that are going on right now. in the fall. Baseball barely has started going off in the middle of summer. Football and hockey,

or hockey football and basketball are done. And basically the only thing that's going on is golf. So it's going to be probably early next summer is when we're going to do it. It's going to be much better produced. It's going to have the full weight of basketball behind it. It sucks because the hype was so intense. I still hear every time Spitting Chicklets puts up a new show that like Whitney was chirping me and talking about this and that, which is great. I love it. We've got to keep the hype train going. wish we could have done it and settled it because there was the it was like peak. There was a point where it was going to be the highest like watched thing in Barstle history.

A hundred percent. There was hate. There were sides being taken. There was strategies being talked about. There was, it was a lot. But we will get there because Whitney is a very hateable dude. He, you know, he likes to say things that, you know, people like to get mad at. And he's going to do that leading up.

So do you. You like to get under people's skin. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's not even fake hate. You guys do think that you can both beat each other and he thinks he's the best golfer in the world. This will be the biggest event I've ever been a part of. Oh, yeah.

Like no job. This will be the biggest four hours of my life. You're the golf guy. Totally. You have to. He's coming to play your sport. Yeah, but he's also the millionaire professional athlete. There's a bunch of sides to it.

He plays golf every day. He has swing coaches. Correct. There's all kinds of stuff. So there's a lot of aspects to it. Everybody knows that. It was at its peak and the fever pitch, all of that. We're aware of that.

It sucks that we didn't get to settle. in that moment, but it's going to be overall way better off. You should put up being done next summer. Political hit ads on Whitney. Oh, wow. We should cut that too. He doesn't take that idea. Yeah. Attack ads. That's not a bad idea. Once a month, just let people know. He's a rat.

Yeah. He's like, look at, he's got all his money. He's flying on helicopters and jets. Right. We'll talk about it. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here in the dark. You know what the big thing is, like, all business Pete is like the busiest person in the world, and he needs to be able to produce this thing. Pete tweeted out last night that his wife diagnosed him with something that's worse.

than butthole eyes. Like he's just dead inside. He does Ruff and Rattie. Like he'll go and do a scouting for Ruff and Rattie location. And then he'll come back and they have to go do like a college football location. They have to come back and then produce both of those and like make sure all the fucking internet's working and all these cameras and all these companies that we have to hire and all these cameras and shit. And then he has to come back here and do his like regular job like just in here. So to be able to put on this guy.

I mean, he was talking about the golf production being very, very big. Very big. I believe top tracer is going to be involved. It's going to be insane. It's way more likely. that they're going to be fully involved and actually something that we can like do successfully. Right.

If we do it next summer, which makes the production way better. So, uh, so it's likely going to be early next summer. Uh, it's going to happen. The stakes,

we still got to settle on all the stakes. It's going to be for several thousand dollars. Yeah. We're not doing strokes. We're going to do an odd situation. So something along the lines of like my 5k against his 10k or something of that nature. Um, it's going to happen.

It's just had to be put off till next summer. I think that's pretty much all I got right now, gentlemen. Yeah, I think that's about it. Feels great to talk off. It's just fun. Best part of the week by far. Yeah, that was good. It's great.

It's very fun to talk about. I put 45 holes this weekend. You know what I did? So in my apartment, I'm trying to, this weekend I wasn't able to get out. We traveled a lot. We were all over the place. We were in Jacksonville. All over the place.

What I did, which is nice, is I found a spot in my room that I can take a full golf swing. Holy shit No that's always I've done that in every apartment It's crucial But what club can you hit It's like what's the longest It was a nine iron

Me too My longest is the nine iron Eight beyond To be honest I didn't check So I may have a little more Yeah but you can There's only one way to really know

For sure that you went too far It's not It's not gonna be pretty It's not good Yeah so I've got Taking slow swings But it's just like Some scars in my apartment

Yeah Yeah I don't want that Yeah Especially you know What happens is I go back, right, it was my old ones that I didn't care about as much. What happens is I go back, you know, two in the morning after a night out, drink and, you know, your perception. It's your, yeah, your spatial awareness. You're a little off.

Right. And I've put a couple dents in the old, in the old wall. Wow. Yeah, so that's not something I want to do. I definitely want to just, it's just a nice slow swing. I love just touching my, I love touching my clubs. I love holding. I have two Scotty cameras now because I had one already and now, you know, it's scotty season.

so the title took us up with the other one. It's two different totally ones, two totally different backs, and I love hitting them both and deciding which one I'm going to use the winner. You guys got a little putting mat, right? We don't have the pudding mat yet. We're getting one.

You got the weird, like, turn in your apartment. You have the turn in the apartment from the living room to the kitchen. What do you put into? A little cup, just a plastic cup, put it on the wall, and it's awesome. I still haven't. Who's the best putter in the house?

My buddy Kyle, I don't know if you ever, I think you guys met Kyle. I got put him at Bayon with the, didn't you? Yeah, we played it, When you hold out? He hold out. He holds out and fucking, he was lights out of bail.

He was, me and him are like kind of like the same golfer and he shot like a 79. Yeah, he did play lights out of bail. Francis had it ruined his entire summer. Yeah, it did. It did. That's not, I feel like it's not. I play here all the time and like you just came here and just dominated it. You're not even not good of a golf.

Like he's a good golfer, but he doesn't play that often. Speaking of Francis, Francis has been playing unbelievable golf. Yeah, I know. He tells me every fucking time he comes in. He's like, I shot at 75. Par the other day at bail. What the fuck you're talking? Yeah.

He plays. He's also, he is. He's a good player. I mean, he's a really good athlete. So now that he's gotten more and more and more into golf, and he gets to play his home course all the time. Like, he's going to post the numbers. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm awesome. All right. That's it. That's all we got this week. We will obviously be back next week. We're going to talk some more golf.

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