Fore Play - Wyndham Clark & Nick Taylor

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

The U.S. Open champion & the Canadian Open champion join the show. First, Wyndham (48:44-1:15:15) walks us through his key shots on Sunday, post-round celebrations, and taking down some of golf’s biggest superstars. Then, Nick (1:17:17-1:44:20) discusses becoming the first Canadian to win the Canadian Open in 69 years with a 72-foot walk-off eagle, which prominent Canadians he’s heard from since, and Adam Hadwin getting tackled by security. Before the interviews, we talk the Women’s PGA Championship at Baltusrol, Riviera getting the 2031 U.S. Open, Tom Watson’s “open letter” to Jay Monahan, and Tom Kim’s 21st birthday bash with Scottie Scheffler.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he was always nice to the cross the green.

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He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's a hobby. Four players are in Barcelona sports. Brought to you by Chevrolet, Chevy.com. Evies for everyone everywhere.

Silverado, a valuable truck, the whole deal. A huge show. We've got the last two champions on the PGA tour, obviously a major champion. We got Wyndham Clark and Nick Taylor coming on to. show. We got like 25 minutes with Wyndham Clark talking all about the US Open LACC. Afterwards, media obligations, huge shots, how he's gone from, I think he's like 18th in strokes gain on approach to he's like 16th in strokes gain on approach. He went from last year to this year. So he talked about all kinds of good stuff. Obviously, he just won the US Open. Ricky and Rory and

going up against those guys and everything. And then we got Nick Taylor coming up. We haven't interviewed him yet. So we're going to do that after we do this part. So you're going to get Wyndham. You're going to get Nick Taylor. You're going to get the last two winners. We got U.S. Open winner. We got Canadian Open winner. And then we got quite a bit to get to on this show as well. Trent Ryan's not here. He forgot his microphone.

You guys were on the road this week. I forgot his microphone. So it's just myself, Frankie, and DRAP. What's up, boys? How's it going? It's like being a food critic and forgetting your utensils. Yep. Yeah.

I don't think I've traveled without this microphone since I've joined the show. It's just a thing you need in our world. You got to get that microphone. But, you know, it's great. We're on that grind right now of the Barstow Classic where it's the double in Chicago, double in Nashville. Back-to-back, Barstu Classics are a beast, man. It's just a lot of golfers, a lot of people you're meeting, and it's just a lot of sun.

It's like you're out there. Golf is a fucking long day. And when you go back to back and you're not playing, it's a lot of golf watching, man. That is a lot of swings. It's a lot of out-to-end. Man, these fucking fades in these slices. It's just a very tough. Common swing amongst the, oh my God.

When you watch like 120 guys tee off on the first tee at an event, every single guy is the same exact swing. It's insane. And then that one guy that finds a slot and comes through the ball, hits a powering draw, you're like, what the fuck was that? Like seeing it done correctly is like, whoa, because it's not like we do it correctly. We watch the same shit when we play. But that's why it's so cool to go to actual pro events. and like you just you can't believe that all these guys are that good we had a guy that was like a plus three playing the classic yesterday and he just swung differently than everyone else it was it was

it was beautiful dude i remember the irondicoit one there were a lot of good swings at that one remember that there's a lot of guys piping it off those combined first and like 10 t's i think that it is but yeah that is just the miss there's a reason that every instructor in the world is like yeah when we deal with amateurs we deal with slices and it's like when i'm really nervous under pressure on the first the other camera my miss is i hit a huge over the top fucking slice out to the right that's just the miss and everybody fucking has it you realize when you're at that like he said how bad just the average golfer is i mean we're all pretty terrible at this game like nobody and not even pretty terrible like very few people just even do it correctly right like we just get the biomechanics

and like it falls into place properly and you know you drive with like your your trail leg and Instead of like early extending and you have the club come through a little bit shallow and from the inside out. And like almost nobody does any of that stuff properly. So you're just behind the eight ball before you even start. It's fucking tough. Trent and I filmed the video. It's going to come out. I'm assuming right before the corn fairy event that we're doing at the Glenn Club, the NV5 invitational presented by old national bank, which is a nice little mouthful there.

But. Nailed. We are. We are. Thank you. We are. We tip this place out at the Glenn Club. I think we went further back than they'll play at that corn fairy event.

We played about 7,500 yards, like 250-yard par threes into the wind. And we did a two-man scramble from back there. Let me tell you, that was humbling. Like what we ended up shooting compared to what the guys will shoot out there when we go to the Glenn Club, July 27th to the 30th. If you're in the Chicago area, you can come to that. Wow. Like really, really mind.

blowing at like how good you have to be to play those golf courses at those conditions from that length the length means everything man yeah i mean like i was looking at the score card we had a 245 par three and i was like if we were playing from the whites it was like 160 yards like that right there is we were ripping like three woods and drivers into the same it's like what do you expect us to do right like i had to give everything he had out of a driver so i mean i should It's a really hard shot. And it makes you just think, like, we're not even playing the same game as these pros. And that's the minor leagues.

We're not even playing the same game. Someone's going to go out there and shoot what, like six under, seven under. I mean, that's, that's fucking disgusting. Yeah, like each round, like 20 under win the event. Yeah, right. Right. Someone might like the winner might be like 18 under at fucking the Glenn Club. Like that's, that's disgusting.

Dude, that's that 245 yard part three for our boy, Alistair, Doc. that's like a he's probably hitting like a six iron in there right you know like you know what the hardest part is and i'm just saying like like obvious things it's like it's these 500 plus par fours the part five you can give like a 600 yard par five to me is no different like i'm still going to advance the ball down i'm getting the ball on in three like that's like what i should be able to do even if it's 620 even 630 like a 510 par four is just making it impossible you have to pipe a drive so flushed in the perfect spot that you have a good look at the green and then you have to hit like a four iron in and to hold that green is impossible. I think the biggest difference, you know, because I'm, I, when I hit it good, it's like, you know, comparable. It's the miss hits. Their miss hits, you know, when we hit a miss hit, we lose like 50 yards of distance. They, their miss hits are directional almost always. It's like, okay, I might have pulled it, but it still went 300 yards in the air or I might have pushed it in a fairway bunker. They don't have the, oh man, I hit that one right off the heel and it went, you know,

50 yards shorter and now I have 275 into the grid. Yeah. That's that and the part three's two. Once you get once you're playing courses with 230 yard part, you got to bring out the furniture on the par three's, then you got serious issues. And it just makes you think like the guys like Scotty and Wyndham Clark and Rory. These guys are, like Trent and I looked at each other and were like, think about how actually good Tiger Woods was in this prime. Like this game is fucking impossible from this level. It's impossible.

We're playing two men scramble. We can't make pars. This game is impossible, and he was so good that the aliens, like the best of the best, couldn't even come close to competing against him. Dude, he was actually unfathomable. That there's a whole tour above the tour we're talking about. And then he was way better than everyone on that tour. It's like, how was that? How could you comprehend that?

You can't comprehend it. I saw, I saw Rory this. So Rory hit the ball, I think statistically the best he's ever hit it in a major this week. I saw that. I think that's, I think that status correct. he gained like over 13 T to green. I saw a couple shots that stopped me in my tracks this week when I was like, oh my God. He had a shot in the practice on on the eighth hole as par five.

He was probably 240 out. And you guys remember the eighth hole kind of went right and then back left and there was a tree on the left. And he hit this four iron from 250 high cut. And I was talking to Adrian, who obviously we all know. And I was talking to Adrian and I said, oh my God. He said what? I just stopped in my tracks because this shot was so. beautiful and I just said oh my goodness I think that's the most pure long iron I've ever seen

in life and yeah there's another gear there's just another gear and the way and how high think he can hit it with four iron and five wood and three wood is out of control dude if I have a four iron in my hand and it goes into the air like relatively properly and lands somewhere near the green it's heroic it's like yeah yeah that was fucking awesome did you guys see that and like The chances even if it lands on the green, it's going to roll to the back edge or over. Like, I'm not hitting this high tower at one. You're just literally standing there like, okay, that's a butter knife. Shout to Frankie Butternife in my hands.

There's no loft there. So I don't know how the golf ball is going to go into the air. And then I also just have a shit swing. So it's like I could chunk it. I could blade it. I could hit it way right, way left, low, duck, anything. If you hit one that's actually up into the air at all and it goes near the green, you're like, you're looking around like, boys, did you see that?

the fact that he's there from 250 hitting a high cut for it's like what windham clark in on the eighth hole in the final round like he had like 257 or whatever it was with an iron in his hand and he pulled it clearly and that ball he ends up making the bogey but that ball was a foot from landing on the front edge of the green with that was a miss and that was a miss for him he pulled it we do that in our group like everyone's like holy shit what a shot we're like giving high fives You're going back to the cart. You're like, I'm feeling it today. I don't know what to tell you guys.

I'm fucking flushing the wall. Dude, the, yeah, the Corridor Tour event's going to be, I think people are going to be blown away at how good these players are. I think that you get, like, you get minor league hockey in your mind. It's like of like fighting and scrappy. You get minor league basketball of like D League. That's kind of what you get in your mind. I think people are going to be blown away in how good these guys are.

Scottie Schaffer, like these guys all came from the Corn Ferry tour, the NV5 invitation presented by old national bank. That's at the end of the next month we're going to be putting on this broadcast. So yeah, I'm pretty pumped for them. I'm glad you guys got to see the course.

It's a great golf course. It's a great golf course. Like you were saying, last show, there's a lot of like areas that when you hit the ball in the right spot in the fairway, you can really, really chug that thing down there. So there's going to be some big numbers off the tee,

but also some long, long, long, four irons into the wind. It's a tough course. The greens are a nightmare. They're fast. They're firm. 17 is like an unplayable hole. Like it's that 230 par three.

And the green just does this in a certain spot. And if the pins on that right side, you're dead. You're absolutely dead. So yeah, it's a super fun golf course. I can't wait to get back there. Everyone, all the people, the faculty there is great. We had a great time with the Barstall Classic. Chicago always just like shows out.

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We got Barstool Golfs with Jersey Jerry coming out this week. Is that correct? That's right. I think tomorrow night is, or no, tonight. Yeah, it's going to come out tonight, right, Alex Bush? Yeah. Yeah, it'll be Thursday. Yeah, tonight, Jersey Jerry, the introduction of Barstool Golfs.

It's a new series that we came up with where I'm taking everyone. There's no denying that there's a lot of golfers at Barstool office. Everyone's got a golf video series, merchandise, the whole deal. So I was like, it appears to be an appetizing. Frequent topic of discussion in the Crippart. Yeah. Or just even production, just people are just producing, putting out stuff that's related to the term golf for sure.

To the term golf. But like, you know, people golf on their own time. They enjoy the game. There's a lot of people. So I was like, I'm done with not like seeing that. I want to play with these people. So I have contacted essentially almost, well, not yet. I haven't contacted everyone yet.

But I'm trying to get every person from the office to come play the same nine holes in My idea is that they all come to Colonial on Long Island. We play the Valley Nine, because there's three nines there. We play the Valley Nine. We play them from the same T's. And we see how every single player falls on the leaderboard. So Jersey Jerry was first. We had Francis come out.

And we also had Hank, Henry Lockwood. So we're going to get way more people. We're going to get Rico Bosco, Brandon Walker. Hopefully we can get Dave out there, Big Cat. We're trying to see how do these guys stack up on the same course. Obviously, there's not going to be the same tease. obviously exactly the same conditions with wind and all that stuff. But it's as much of a, I'm sorry, same pins.

But it's as much of a control as you can have where it's like same course, how do you play against Francis? How do you play against Hank? And then, so yeah, Jersey Jerry was the first one. It's pure comedy. It's coming out tonight, I think it's at 7 p.m. And hopefully everyone's there for the premiere. It's just a shit show of a golf event.

I mean, Jersey Jerry is a cartoon character. And I can't even love him on the golf course. He's wearing his Milwaukee. He was wearing the Milwaukee. like power tools outfit like like you know like the drills and the fucking wrenches he's a cartoon character you have to be there at 7 p.m. tonight please join the live stream. You know, comment will be in the chat and hopefully this is the beginning of a very long and successful series because I think the possibilities are endless. At the end of this, I think each season will have like

a match play tournament, you know, and we'll see like one will play 12. and it'll be just like March Madness. So that's the idea of the series, and I think it's going to be good. So tonight, episode one. Yeah, and then we've got, I think just on social is with Trottie. We went through the new tailor-made putters. We did that obviously in the fall,

but that's their new line of putters. I know everybody from different generations of spiders, different technology that they put in there. It could get confusing. You can see different colors, different shapes, what's going on. Trotty kind of walks us through. He walks us through a lot of the stripe aspect, too, on the Tor response ball,

lining them up and sort of the path and everything they've come up with at Taylor Made. That's obviously working. So on social, you can see us with Trotty checking out new putters at Taylor Made. And then tonight, if you're listening, Barstall Golf's Jersey, Jerry, from what I've heard, one of the funniest kind of shoots in the history of Barstle of Golfs. I'm excited to see it. All right. We've got some news bulletins to get to.

a handful of things in the golf world before we throw it to these interviews. The women this week, major championship, they're at Baltasrol. This has been a big kind of evolution, it feels like, in the women's game, where they're going to some of these iconic golf courses now that the men have gone to forever.

Baltisrol is actually, which this was sort of a Kyle Porter tweet, because it was announced at Riviera will be hosting the 2013-1-U.S. Open. That's the first time since 1948 that Riviera is going to host the U.S. Open. But Kyle Porter tweeted out list of the U.S. Open venues that have

have the most number of hosting the U.S. Open. And Oakmont was number one at 9. Baltisrol is number two at 7. Like Jack. Jack won, I think, two U.S. opens there. At Baltis Open. At Balticrol. So now the women are there.

This week, this weekend, we've got a lot of obviously storylines, but the big one, Roseang, she's played in one professional event as a professional. She won it. Now she's going to be going into her first major championship over in New Jersey, Paul DeSroll, all the history that you're going to see Phil when he won the PGA there. He tapped the plaque there on the 72nd hole, hit that three wood up there in the right rough,

then hit this like kind of explosion like flop shot out of the rough to a foot, put his hands in the air, won the PGA championship. That was 2005, I believe, and it's crazy to think that Phil at that point, he had won the 2005 PGA at Baltie. And then in the spring, he won the Masters in 2006. And then the next major was the U.S. Open where he melted down upon himself and called himself an idiot. So at that point, Phil going into the 72nd hole at Wingfoot, where he hit it way

left, hit a fucking tree, hit it into a bunker where he got a Friday, hit it over the green, made double lost by one. If he won that, he would have won three majors in a row. And he would have been going to the Open Championship with a chance to win like the Phil Slap, which is fucking nuts. So Baltimore's got all kinds of history, and the women are there this year, which is awesome. Instead, and that was also, that was also 2006 where he threw up all over himself. That was the first major that Tiger had missed the cut as a professional.

So Phil was really, which was right after his dad died. So Phil was, that was as close as Phil was to sort of overtaking the narrative. He blows it on 18 and then Tiger wins the 2006 British Open. And it kind of restored things back. And the 2006 PGA, he won the next two majors, Tiger did. So he just said, I'm back. He's like, I saw what happened at Wingfoot. You're done.

It's my turn now. So, yeah, there's all kinds of cool history with Baltimore in these courses. It's really sick that the women are going there. And so, yeah, make sure you tune in to that. I've got on my picks this week. I'm about to do the gambling show live, obviously, with Kirk. One of my picks is Rose-Zang top 10 is plus 150 over on the Barcelona Sportsbook. Like I said, she's got one, one start, one win on the LPGA tour.

A major is a different bear. We get that. but she also, in 20 college events, she won 12. So it's like, I'm not saying she needs to win this fucking thing. I'm saying top 10, she's plus money plus 150. So maybe go check that out of the Barstall sports book. I'm rooting for her big time because I think a win or not even a win, just having her in the mix would be really big for the women's game.

On a big stage like this week after the men's major, you know, the women kind of get the spotlight. Baltisrol, like you said, super historic venue. She started her career as good as literally as good as you possibly can. And we know how it works in this industry and in the media. You build on momentum. She's got a lot of momentum right now. And another strong showing this week, I think we'll sort of, you know, she won and it made it, it made waves. I think if she, if she contends or, you know, cross your fingers wins, this crosses over into like a general sporting story, general news story where it's like, okay, the women's game has a new star.

12 wins. If she wins her first two and wins a major or even contends, you know, she becomes, I think immediately. you know the the biggest story in women's golf and and and a sort of a bolt of energy for that tour which could which could definitely use one it. It fucking needs it. You know, the women's game needs the whole time we've been doing this podcast. The women's game hasn't had that jolt in the United States that that it kind of used to have like with onica and lorino choate. Like there was a phase when I was getting really into golf where the women's game it just had more juice it felt like. And a lot of that is kind of reliant on the stars. the stars being, you know, relatable to certain places.

It's just like in tennis, like in tennis, men's tennis in the 80s and stuff. My dad talks about all the time with McEnroe and then Agassie and these guys. Like when they had American stars, tennis was fucking massive and everybody loved it. And now at this point, I know women's golf is obviously huge over in Asia. A lot of the top stars are Asian here in the U.S. If we could get a star or two that are American that can draw in a lot of the American crowds. I think the women's game can get that jolt for sure. Rosang seems to be as good a bet as you can possibly have. Obviously, Nellie Kort has been up there. She's been, I think she might still be or she was.

She was, obviously, ranked number one in the world. She won the KPMG women's, um, PGA a couple years ago when I think it was at congressional, I believe is when she won. Was that where it was? She's making her first start in a month. She's making her first start in a month. She had a back injury. So she's back. She's had some health issues for Roseing. Let's get those two up in the mix. Let's get it going. Come on. Let's get the juice going to the women's game. It's right for the taking. Brooke Henderson, one of my favorites. So if you're Canadian, you know, we've got some Canadian love lately. We're going to have a Canadian winner on the show today. So there's some juice available. Let's get it going to the women's game. This is a huge opportunity at Baltimore. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, golf capital of the world. We all went to Myrtle Beach together about a year and a half ago. It was my first time ever there. I'd heard a lot about it. I was pretty blown away at Myrtle Beach. I was blown away at all the different options. Maybe you've heard. certain parts of Myrtle Beach. You've heard, you know, you've heard about this, you're about that,

these kinds of restaurants, these types of golf courses, whatever. I didn't know Myrtle Beach had a little bit of everything for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the golf courses, a little bit of everything for everybody. Wide open fairways and then you have tight, just diabolical tracks. If you're trying to challenge your game or if you're trying to go out there with 20 buddies on a bachelor trip or whatever, and you know that some guys don't really play that well, you don't want to give them the tough test. They have everything for everyone. I went down there. I played an easy course. I played a hard course. And you you just get everything, you're just satisfied leaving Myrtle Beach.

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This has been into that. I feel like forever. Every time I turn on the Genesis and they're at Riviera, it gets mentioned every hour that this is a major championship caliber venue. So it's felt inevitable they were going to go back there eventually. Yeah, I think it's not a, not a, coincidence. There's a big rivalry between LACC and Riviera. I think once LACC got their major Riviera put their pedal to the to the medal, so to speak, you know, I think a lot of people

used last week as evidence that L.A. sports fans are horrible. I don't think it was an LA problem because Genesis every year is an amazing event. And Riviera is, they put their clubhouse on display. They're not afraid to open up their place for a week and they've done it so many times that hopefully they will kind of go back to the U.S. Open Blueprint of let's have people lining both sides of the fairway. It's a lot easier of a property to get around. It's not as hilly. It's not and they have experience showing off the golf course. So let's hope that corporate US Open doesn't happen again in Los Angeles. Because if it does, I'm not sure that LA will ever recover as far as sports fans because that was not a great showing last week. Yeah, that was shit. That was just shit. It was unfortunate.

We found ourselves in a weird spot because I was like on the rundown. It almost felt like PGA tour versus live where like for five, six years we were hard on the PJ tour. And then all of a sudden you find yourself defending the PGA tour. You're like, what? I felt that way a little bit where it's like we were clearly hard on a lot of aspects of the U.S. Open of LACC, of the way that the tickets went down, the fact that it's supposed to be the people's open. But I thought that we, for the most part on this show, at least me and Frankie, like really liked the golf course, that the golf course showed up. I thought especially over the weekend, it held its own. It was interesting. It was definitely different. I think we all would

like to see the 18th Fairway a little bit tighter. But at the end of the day, everybody played that hole. So it was what it was. And we really enjoyed the way the golf of course played. I thought it was entertaining to watch. But the corporate element of the U.S. Open and Ford, I'm hearing the, you know, Dan, I think you were tweeting about the ratings being really high, obviously. I think there's been a lot of chatter about the corporate hospitality revenue was made. They made that they made two X, at least what they've ever made. And so what that, the picture that that paints for everyone is that the USGA sold out making it from a vibe standpoint, from a DNA standpoint, the people's open, right? If you go back to like 02 at Beth Benjamin Tiger one,

That was the People's Open. And it is different, the United States Open. It is different than the Masters than the PGA Championship, where those are championships that clearly are founded in a little bit of exclusivity. It's the fucking Masters. It's like the PGA Championship, a PGA of America. And that's definitely a little bit more open, if you will, than the Masters, obviously. But the U.S. Open is like, you open those fucking doors.

it's rowdy people were chanting people were like heckling Sergio Garcia when he was regripping 800 times at Beth page it's the people's open and they just did not in any way not only capture that at LACC like they went out of their way to fuck that be like we're going to be corporate we're going to be corporate and we're not caring about that aspect of it and from a fan you know standpoint and from a viewer standpoint that fucking sucked it literally was a corporate US hope Oh, can't hear Dan. Can I hear you, Frankie?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I can hear you. Yep. You're just on mute, Dan Rappaborp. You're, you're, no, can't hear you. How about now? Yeah. Why is my, if I, I'm back?

Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. What's wrong with Frankie now? You okay, Frank? No, it's like, I'm getting all these text messages. I'm doing this pickleball thing. I'm getting a million text messages.

And then, like, for some reason now, like, the volume every time I send a text or get a ding is like coming through my computer. And I can't stop it. If I got I thought words back on the shelf. If I hit like no more noise, I can't hear you guys. So what's going on here? Yeah. What I was going to say is you were in a tough spot because we all agree, I think, that it, that it sucked, that the vibe sucked. But from the USGA perspective, and as you've talked about at length, this is their moneymaker.

This is their cash cow. They need this to fund everything else. From a financial standpoint, they brought in a ton of money and the ratings are great. So what is the, what, for all the. about, oh, we didn't like this, we didn't like that. And I agree with that. It's not like you didn't watch. It's not like people didn't watch. So at the end of the day, I don't know if there's any incentive for them to really go back. It'll be very interesting. I mean, Pinehurst will be, it will be an interesting test case because it's not really like a major metropolitan area.

So it wouldn't seem to be like a hugely corporate vibe. But what's your sense? I mean, you're, you're more connected to Pioneers than anybody's ever been. What's your sense about how next year might go down? I think that Pinehurst is. is somehow right in between the two. You know, like Pinehurst is obviously, it's open to the public. You can book a tea time, but it's also not in the fact that like you have to stay on property, right? It's like Pebble beaches in that sense. They have the same policies of like, yeah, it's a publicly accessible golf course,

but it's not Beth Page Black where you can go as a New York resident, pay 70 bucks and play it on Saturday morning. It's $4,500 for around a number two. They bake it into the Donald Ross package and those kinds of things. So you got to be pretty affluent. You got to have the money or you got to be saving up, shell out and make it a once-in-a-lifetime trip to kind of go and stay at the Carolina and have the access to the top golf courses and all that. And Pinehurst is pretty old like 1895, right? That's on their logo. That's when they kind of opened and that's their founding kind of date that they go back.

to and that's old southern you know like blazers at the carolina uh hotel restaurant for years and years and now here they are with the cradle that has speakers in the trees so they're sort of evolving clearly and they've they've you know passionately in them and and mr deadman like they saw that there's a future of golf that's you know less buttoned up and all that so they're sort of in between is what i'm trying to say and you know raleigh durham is a big ass city that's a pretty Pretty big metropolitan and Charlotte's two hours away. And North Carolina is as big of a golf state as you can have, especially on kind of the public front, I feel like,

where we've talked about how many dozens of Donna Ross courses there are and how great they are because the sandhills of North Carolina. So in all of that, I think that it's ripe for the taking to be a really, really good mix. I think Pioneers number two from a space standpoint is going to be great. I think they're going to be able to get tens of thousands of fans. there, no problem. From a viewing standpoint, it's not ideal once you're there because all of the turtobat greens. The greens are all literally raised above the level where people are going to stand. It's the opposite of TBC sawgrass, like literally the opposite. You are below the surface.

So even if you're 20 feet away from somebody putting for par, you might not be able to see the hole at all because you're going to be below the green. But with the grandstands, with the atmosphere in terms of people being allowed, right? I don't think it's going to be overly corporatized like LACC. But if the USGA goes that route, right? If they say and Piner's has a deal with them where they get a cut of just total revenue or whatever, I don't know if they're going to stop them from being like, yeah, if you're going to make two or three X by going all in on the corporate hospitality aspect of it, I don't think Piner's is going to stop them from doing that. So it could go either way. It'll definitely be rowdier just because of the nature of it. LACC.

had a ton of T-boxes and greens that are right next to each other, which is really cool old-school architecture, but also it didn't allow for there to be a lot of fans around certain areas. That's why we saw in a lot of T-boxes. Like nobody was around the T-boxes. Nobody was really around certain greens because they either couldn't be or it was really hard to get there. So not many people were just there.

And they kind of congregated around a few spots. It was weird in that there were like three or four shots throughout the day where all of a sudden you would hear massive roars. you would hear massive crowd reactions at LACC, but that's because it was so spotty. I think at Pioneer's number two, it's going to be much more, there's going to be a lot more people in general,

and I think they're going to be spread out a lot more to where you're going to get a lot more fan noise in general. So I think it'll be better. But if the USGA, if this was like their big test, this is Mike Wan coming in and like, this is clearly, you know, an initiative from him and his whole squad that he brought in, like they might just want to go corporate US Open going forward

so they drive more revenue. and in a capitalist society who are we to shit on them for that, you know? That's the fear is like, you know, that that money wins all. If the last couple of weeks in golf have taught us anything, it's that at the end of the day, you want to bet on the money. But I don't know. I refuse to believe that that LACC will be a blueprint going forward because I don't think that like you said, there's no, there's no board at Pinehurst that, you know,

I don't think that the reason that LACC was so corporate was just because the USGA, I don't really necessarily know how much of that was even a USGA decision. I think LACC is this extremely exclusive, stuffy place that was opening their doors for the first time and really tried to keep it to keep control of the week. I think the pioneers of the world and the riviers of the world are used to hosting golf tournaments. And they're used to having their place on display. LACC, it was almost like they held their nose while hosting the U.S. Open, which is just so lame. It's just so, if you're going to host the U.S. Open, then host the damn U.S. Open.

And Pioneers will get that, right? Pioneers understands that. They've hosted three U.S. opens in the last 24 years. They host events all the time. The North-S. Championship is next week, I believe. So, like, they host big events every year. They host the U.S. Amateur in 2019, I think that it was. So they know how to host massive events.

They've hosted the Ryder Cup. They've hosted a PGA tour event. I think they hosted maybe a PGA chip. So they've hosted all kinds of massive events. They know how to do it. They're going to do it incredibly well. it just it matters how much obviously the USJ wants to go with this corporate more corporate model and how much they don't so we'll see last thing I got on my list oh two more things one did you guys see tom kim's 21st birthday celebration with scotty shuffle yeah no i'm pretty sure they went to

sally's new haven i'm 99% sure that's where they went um because scotty is just the biggest pizza aficionado you'll ever find in the world he freaking loves pizza he likes it thin crust he likes it new haven style that's his number one go-to um and i think he took tom kim which was that is that is that officially his first party ever did maybe like maybe a second on this on this show right and he never and riggs was like he ever been to a place where people are like no frank he's celebrating he's like you've never been to a congregation of law like more than five people that are just together having a good time. And he was like,

no, I don't think so. He's like, nope, never. He definitely didn't booze, though, did he?

Young Tom wasn't getting after. I don't think, right? It looked as though it was the first, like, sparkler, like, candle he had ever seen in a cake.

He was, like, wowed by it. Like, it went off, and he was like, holy shit. You got to go check, you got to go check, you got to go check Scotty Shepp

is your history. Yeah, Tom Kim is so green. It's so, it's so lovely to see. I'm just, I'm thinking about him, though as like a 29-year-old, like, grizzled veteran who's like,

don't ask me that's a stupid question. It's going to happen eventually. Nothing green stays forever. It's the most pure video I've ever seen. You got to go check it out, Dan. Just Scotty Sheffler celebrating Tom Kim's 21st birthday with him. You know, Scotty Schaeffer looks like he's 45, but he's like 25. And then you've got Tom Kim who just turned 21, who's never been to a party before

in his life. And they got sparklers and pizza. And like, he's turning 21, which is hilarious. He's won on the torque. I'm not he was dominant at the president's up or he was a big star, the president's cup at least for the international team. He just turned 21. It's like a man with his child, even though they're almost the same age and they do the

same thing and they're on a pretty similar level. It's fucking incredible. So you got to go look at that. So happy birthday to Tom Kim was kind of my main point with all that. And then my last thing before we throw these interviews was this open letter real quick from Tom Watson to Commissioner Jay Monaghan. I didn't read the whole thing. I made it through about one paragraph.

I think one of the main lines that I've been seeing that Tom Watson was getting quote card it was can we look 9-11 families in the eyes and ourselves in the mirror so here's tom watson i'm gonna just say real quick i'm over tom watson's fucking high horse letters that he does i don't know if you guys remember from uh gary mccord on this show told the story but he's told it before but tom watson also wrote a letter trying to get gary mccord fired from covering the master's tournament in 1994 he just loves the right fucking letters again from his high horse and i'm so i'm just so i'm over it i'm over the tom watson in high horse letter shit.

In 1994, okay, during the 1994 Master's telecast, Gary McCord made a comment about the Augusta greens where he said... McKinney Wax, right?

He said, they don't cut the greens here at Augusta. They use bikini wax, which is great. It's a great line. 1994, like, he's out there trying to... They've talked to all...

You know, we've talked to Brando. We've talked to announcers, Trevor. We've talked to McCord about how like they try to come up with new shit to say, so it's not just cliche after cliche. Great line.

Very funny line. Afterwards, Watson, offended by McCord's commentary during the 1994 Masters wrote two letters of complaint. One was to Augusta National President Jackson Stevens. The other was to CBS's golf producer and McCord's boss, Frank Trichinian. He goes on to the letter to Augusta was never made public, but the letter to Trichinian was, and he wrote, this is what Tom Watson wrote back then.

He wrote, Dear Frank, and then he quoted, they don't cut the greens here at Augusta. They use bikini wax. Quote by G. McCord, April 10, final round of the night. Master's directed by Frank Trinian. He writes this in the letters. He tried four of his computer-generated similes before he laid this terrible egg. It is sad that he has so degraded the last telecast of Pat Summeroff. He is the Howard Stern of TV Golf and you should be ashamed rather than champion his, quote, irreverent, unquote, behavior.

Get rid of him now, Tom. That was a letter Tom Watson wrote in 1994, the day after the master tournament to CBS's top producer. So this fucking guy with his letters. I'm just out on his letters. Is there an open room in the home? I mean, I don't want to put him in there yet. But at some point, it seems like he's on the fast track there writing letters and shit.

Tom, hit us on email, send us a DM. You got to put the pen and paper away. Stop complaining about shit. I mean, it is hard to say like, stop complaining about 9-11.

It's like, I don't want to be on that side of it. It's like what he's saying is right. Like, it's true. It's what we're all saying. It's like, man,

these like, I can't believe this is even where we've come to in the world, like that we have to just like, succumb to these people and I get where he's coming from and I actually stand by what he's saying, but the high horse stuff is insane. Like if he has a history of like talking down to people and like he's like the decision maker of the PGA tour, like, no, you're not. You're actually not and you're just like your opinion really doesn't matter. It's like the same as everyone else's. I saw that Davis Love the third also wrote an open letter and we got to draw the line somewhere.

You got to win multiple majors before you can write an open letter. I'm sorry. Like are we are we going to start getting open letters from Sean Neal. We got to put out an open letter, I think. I think four plays got to put out of money. I mean, I feel like it's almost at this point embarrassing if you don't put out an open. I mean, if Davis love the third, and I don't want to disrespect his career, but are we just, it's just open season for open letters. I just, I think like, this is the first time that golf has been this big where it's like

political and it's like world news. And it's, it's, you got to think that a lot of these guys and their families, they're sitting around fire pits and they're. and they're like, we have to make it, like, we have to have our voice heard. Like, this is, this is our time to make our stand. Davis loved the thirds. The Tom Watson's, like these guys feel like this is their time. Like, I feel like they probably think if they don't speak, like no one will.

It's like it's gotten to that point. Golf somehow has gotten to that point. It's literally like politics where everyone has to give their take on it or else they feel like they're going to get canceled. Statements. It's like, I stand with this. It's like, oh, my God. Why does it always have to be that?

Well, if he just gave an interview or if he just put out a statement, that would, I think that's fine. That's normal. The fact that he, how weird is it that you frame it in a way where he's writing to Jay Monahan? Like, as we're reading it, he's writing like, dear Mr. Monaghan, but that's going to you and me. Like he's saying to Frank, like, be a guy I looked at Frankie and I was like, dear Dan, I think, and you'd be like, why aren't you just telling, like, why are you, like, what are we doing here? That's just so bizarre, in my opinion, to do it that way of like, so, so yeah, you know, it's a little too old school. It was a little bit put them in a home and you're 100% right, frankly, like in the, the

sentiment of it I get, I think we all agree with. We talked about for a hundred hours maybe on this podcast about that. We've put out pretty much the same opinion many times. But that whole, it was like, I, the high horse thing with the letter and you're, you're addressing it. So I'm now reading what I know you like, wanted me to read, but you're, it's talking to Jay Monahan directly. It's like, what the fuck? So the whole thing I thought was just a little bit too much for me. Um, we have any updates on

Jay Monahan? Any ideas there? Mr. Rap report. I've heard that it's not life threatening. So I think he's, I think he's, I think he's doing okay. I think, my, my speculation or whatever you want to call it is that this was not what he had in mind when he became the PJ tour commissioner. And this last two years is probably the stress that that man's been under. and continues to be under because I think one of the funny things about the whole merger was that they were like, oh, we're dropping litigation. And they thought like, oh, we're good. We're out of this.

We're out of the hair. It's like, no, the Senate's involved now. There's, it's only going to be. There's no way that him and Jimmy Dunn, like, didn't know that. No, I, he's not an idiot, you know? I think he's, I think he's a bit of a pain sponge to use the term from succession. Like, I think at this point, Monaghan is taking all the heat, all the public ire's going to him and then done and hurley here kind of working behind closed doors to actually make the deals.

And that's a really terrible position to be. And Jay Monaghan is not that the cue rating or whatever it is is not very high right now. And I think he went from three years ago being like, oh, I'm just the commissioner of the PJ tour and, you know, I'm going to get my Guston national membership. And, you know, everybody loves me to now it's like you are a very controversial figure in general society. And that is probably not a turn he expected his life to take. Yeah.

If, you know, if we just took the express train to the speculation station, I would speculate that he just had a nervous mental breakdown. That's my guess. I think he's super understandable. I think he went from a very polished, well-liked, pretty like by the book, I got us through COVID. This is how we're going to do it. Guy to like the least popular person in America for a week or so. And all of that combined with the stress of doing the deal. and I think he probably just, he just, yeah, he just broke down. I think he probably just broke down.

Again, speculation station, but I would assume that he just kind of broke down a little bit. That seems incredibly understandable as well. Panic attacks can feel like heart attacks. That's like a thing. Totally. Yeah. So I, again, we wish, you know, we wish the best. It's just, yeah, I wonder, like, do you think that they're like keeping him up to date on emails and stuff? Or do you think he's on like a full, you know, you rest and get better and come back when you're because it's a pretty important time. You know, the most important time. He might, like, by the time he gets plugged back into emails,

he might, you know, he might be moving coffee for Yasser at that point. Like, he better, you know what I'm saying? If he's not pretty dialed in here, he could really lose things. So, yeah, who knows? We haven't heard anything else, right? They haven't, like, released anything else since then? No. Yeah.

So, Hope he's doing well. I mean, it would be best case scenario, probably, based on the health concern and the nature of what they put out, that he, you know, he had a little bit of a panic attack. He's recovering. He's going to be okay. hopefully that's the case, but who the hell knows? We haven't heard anything else. So we'll see.

Okay. I think that's all I got. We're going to throw it. We got two big interviews, like I said, Wyndham Clark. He's sitting there with the US Open trophy, very cool. And then Nick Taylor, who won the Canadian Open the week before, making a 72-foot bomb at front of the Canadian fans. First guy to win the Canadian open as a Canadian in forever in a really, really long time, I think it was. So that was 69 years.

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Yo, yo. What's up, dude? What up? What's going on? Just chill and cranking out some media. How has the media been? Are you sick of doing media yet? Get there.

You got to be. It's just been like, two and a half straight days of this. I love it. Yeah, but hey, it comes with it. I'll take it over sitting on my couch and regrinding it on the rain. I think that's right. I think that's incredibly fair. We're going to, I know your time crunch. You're all over the place. I think you're in New York right now. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, so we're just going to jump in. Wyndham Clark. This is your third time on the show. And it's actually been an crazy, a crazy kind of like personification of your career. We had you on like two years ago at Liberty National during a playoff event. You're grinding

to like keep your playoff hopes alive. Next time we had you on, you had won a month ago at Quail Hollow, broken through. You took down Xander Shoffley. We have you on a month later. You're a major champ. You're sitting there next to the U.S. Open trophy. It's been a crazy year and a half, I feel like, for you. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy to think about. I mean, just eight months ago, I was hitting golf. and now we're major champions. So it's been a fun, it's been a fun ride. I mean, the ups and downs, obviously, you know, there was some tough times, but it's, you know,

you look back and I wouldn't change it because it's made me cherish these moments so much more. Give me that first moment after the win, after you put out, I know it's a whirlwind. I know they usher you everywhere as they should. What was that, was there a moment where you were able to be alone or just with a few other people or your brother and sister, were you able to actually, like, sit there and soak it in for a minute?

Not really. I mean, the only time I was alone all night is when I went to the bathroom. So, I mean, I guess when I'm doing that, that was the only time I could kind of think. But, I mean, I was signing things. We were drinking champagne. We were, you know, hugging people. We were crying.

We were doing so many different things. So I didn't really get a chance to just sit there and be like, go, my gosh. So, I mean, that might still hasn't happened. We'll see. When I finally get a loan, I'll maybe we get to reflect. So there's a couple things as I was going through, you're 13th in the world now. You're obviously two-time winner on tour. You're a major champion. You won the elevated event, which comes with all kinds of things as well, including a lot of money. You're also second in the Ryder Cup points list. So you're going to be, but, you know, by all accounts, you're going to be on this Ryder Cup team, going to Italy, has that part kicked in at all?

Well, it's something, when I did the suit fitting and the, you know, the fitting for it at the PGA, I was like, ooh, this is pretty cool. You know, it's something that makes it feel real. And I was like, I really want to be on this team. I've always wanted to be on the team. And, you know, it wasn't even really a goal of mine to start the year because it was, it almost seemed unattainable, you know, like it was so far away. And as I started playing better, I honestly didn't think about it. And then when I won at Wells was when the first time someone came, you know, said it to me like, hey, you're 10th or 11th on the on the Ryder Cup team. And I was like, oh, wow, this could be real. And so now that, you know, I don't know if it's

a hundred percent, but let's say my odds have gone up increasingly. Looking good. It's pretty sweet. So, I mean, I can't wait to go represent this country and go kick some ass. I know. I know you like to drink wine. Is that going to be an issue? for you being in Italy and not being able to just indulge the whole time in some of the best wine in the world out there. I will wait till afterwards. I think what we'll do is go in, be serious about our business, go get a dub, and then go celebrate with some nice great. I enjoy, like you can always kind of tell afterwards, especially now with all the phones and the social media and everything, you can get a little bit of a look at the guy celebrating,

what's he like, what's his celebration? I like that you're just standing there holding a glass of red with the trophy every time. Yeah, I, yeah, well, they gave me, well, they had Screaming Eagle for me. So I was like, well, I'm not going to drink the cream of the crop. So the USDA did an awesome job throwing up the party afterwards. And they had, you know, those, the glass had the trophy on it. And then it had Screamin Eagle. So I was like, heck, yeah, I'm normally, I'm a tequila guy when I celebrate,

but Screaming Eagle, I think trumps some tequila. Yeah, no, I mean, you can't say, you just can't say no to that. I want to talk about this tournament a little bit. The golf course, which I thought was awesome, especially over the weekend. It got crusty. It led to some insane moments from, you know, eagle putts to grinding and trying to save a bogey. Was there a moment earlier in the week because it did kind of appear and it's come out, you know, as guys have reflected on the whole thing, that was a bit of a bomber's course.

Did you feel earlier in the week at all like, this spot's kind of my spot? So I forgot I did this, but I went back. I played the Tuesday prior. I came in, flew in, played with a buddy, showed me around the golf course. And after the round, my caddy John texted me, said, what did you think of the course? I said, great course, we're going to win. Don't have to show up until Wednesday. And he goes, perfect.

All right, see you a Wednesday. And, you know, I was kind of half joking. But then when we really talked about, I was like, John, this course is great for us. I go, if we bring any game above a B game, we're going to have a chance to win on Sunday. And so one of the biggest challenges was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, getting my mind right to not get so far ahead and just stay in the moment. And then, you know, after Thursday shooting a good opening round of six under, it's like, okay, you know, just let's just worry about one day at a time. And that was one of my main goals was only focus on this day. And, but yeah, you're right.

I mean, it was a bomber's course. You know, the back nine every hole is basically 500 yards. And there were some, you know, bunkers that I could cover and shots that I could do that made it way easier. And, you know, to be honest, early in the week, I hit my iron's terrible. And actually all week, I didn't feel that comfortable with my iron gain. But I think, I just feel like that course suited me well. And so, you know, it was one of those horses for courses kind of thing. I felt like I could play good there any week.

I do want to get on the iron play front. I'm glad you mentioned that because I want to get a little bit nerdy with you. I was looking through. I was trying to figure out how hell is Wyndham Clark gone from where a lot of people probably haven't heard of them to everybody's Googling you now. Everybody knows who you are. You've won twice in the last month. Two huge events. A major championship.

Huge part of it is your iron play. It went from 2021. You were 188th in strokes gained an approach. You were losing about, you were losing over half a shot per round to the field. 2022 was pretty similar. In 2023, you're now 16th. You're better statistically on approach, strokes gain on approach, than Hedecki, then Victor, then Corey Connors, who were ball strikers by nature.

You're gaining over half a stroke per round on the field on the tour this year. Was that a conscious effort? How did we go from clearly losing being one of the worst guys on tour with the Iron Play to one of the best? The first four or five years I was on, four years I was on tour, that was definitely, if I had anyone look at my game. They're like, well, win them. You put great. We win the longest hitters. Your short game is fantastic. Your iron game is horrendous. And the tough thing was, is I'm a good ball striker. And so it wasn't that I was playing dumb. It's just my, I think there's a lot of things

that go into it. I made an equipment change a year and a half ago. And I underspun my irons significantly. So that's one thing. I had irons that were two degrees flat. And I try to cut, which flat is what you think you would do, but it didn't match with my driver because my driver was at like one degree upright. So I had such a huge difference. And so one week I'd be hitting driver good, but then my irons would be terrible. And then one week I'd hit my irons good, then my driver would be bad. So it was this constant battle of like what to do. And so my caddy John and I, when I switched, when I went from not working with any coaches, like I left all my coaches, he goes, we need to change your irons. We need to go three degrees up. Like, you need to get

it more upright. And so we went from two degrees flat to one up. And he goes, you're going to hit it so far left, but he goes, you're going to figure it out. And the crazy thing is I went on the range and I did hit balls left, but I hit every single one in the center of the face. And I used to never hit it solid. And I think it was because of the lie angles. And so I go, John, I think I could do this. I go, at least I'm hitting the center of the face. And this was, you know, this was about, you know, it was a year ago. And I started hitting it better and better and better. And my stats went from me, like you said, 188 to where it was like, all right, we're at like 140.

Okay. We're now 100. And then we were 70th. It's like, all right, we're in the right direction. And that was, which was great as we were going that way. And then now, now it's like I have a bad iron week and I'm still in the top 30 or 40 for that week. And so it's amazing. I feel like it's always been there.

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That's pretty, it's down to you and Rory. Rory's hitting it. He's got a couple long birdie looks and the, you know, you're kind of shaking a little bit, but holding on, you get to the 72nd hole. Obviously, it's like the biggest fairway in U.S. Open history is massive. What, what happened from your vantage point? What was the T shot like for you? Because a lot of people are looking at that.

Like, you look backwards. It looked on the tracer like it, it sliced. Everyone's like, when I sliced one like that, it's never in the first. fairway was it because it still carried almost 300 yards like from your vantage point walk me through the 70 second hole t-shot well it's it's it's a it may almost i mean it's obviously easier because it's a wide but in that instance it's hard because it's it's so wide it's like all i got to do is just swing and that should be in play and sometimes that's it's hard and sometimes the easy shots in under pressure especially when you have a lead are the toughest because you just you expect to do it or

you almost put more pressure on yourself to do it versus the hard ones get you to focus so much more. And so that one was tough because the fairway was so big. I mean, the only place you can't go is right. And, you know, if you pull it left, you get in the rough and maybe obviously it makes it tougher. But the wind was off the left. And I actually hit the similar drive almost every day that week where I aimed at the left rough and I swung left and said, okay, I'm going to hit the slice. But as long as I start it far enough left, it can't go too far.

far right. And so, you know, that's one side of it. The other thing is it was, the sun was right in my eyes. And, you know, anyone that really plays golf, it's so hard to hit when the sun is right flashing in your eyes because you can't see where it goes. And I don't know what it is. Because obviously, like, once you hit it, you have no, you know, you have no control. You're not like you're looking in the sun. But I always seem to come out of the ball into the sun. And that's what I did on that hole is I sliced it probably, I don't even know how much it sliced. I didn't even see the wall, but it probably sliced more because of that sun. And so, you know, fortunately, I knew there were tons of room over there and people might

have thought it was a bad shot. But under the, under the pressure, like for me, there's a slice is like a hundred yard cut for me. So, because I, I cut everything. So for me, it doesn't look that big. It was fun to watch you cut and everything. It was fun on 12 when you lined up on 12, like Azinger and the crew, they couldn't believe that they're like he's aiming left of the trees and you were just swinging and hitting this

hard cut it was it was very uh you know it it's like it as a you know weekend golf or viewer it made me feel a little bit of optimism of like this guy's got his shot shape and he's just going to hit it he's going to hit it like this whole hit it out left and it's going to cut he's just going to do that all day until he wins this golf tournament that was pretty much what it was much i mean you know with my with my irms i'll all shape it especially like short clubs and stuff. I didn't feel great with my iron play, so I didn't hit many draws. So usually when it doesn't feel great, I kind of always revert to the cut.

But off the tee, that's one thing that I learned about myself is I really struggle to draw off the T. And so it's like I'd rather just hit the cut. And if it looks gross or, you know, or. It looks good. Yeah. Yeah, it looks good. Well, sometimes I think it looks gross and it's maybe not the right shot.

But for me, I'd rather hit one solid and I know where it's going to. go versus when I'm if I try to hit a draw driver that could be four different shots you know and so I don't do that very often I love that on 12 because to you know to to to me it seems like if you've got control of the driver you're one of the better drivers out there you're gaining strokes left and right and it's like of course put that club in his hands and I know you said afterwards in the press you hit that fairway with the driver uh you went for or you pulled driver every day hit it three out of four days and it's like I far too often it was even like watching rory it was frustrating where he clearly's trying to like hit these cuts with wedges or short irons that he just isn't pulling off and it's like

i remember i think it was dj talking about going into the masters a handful years ago and he was like everybody talks about how you got to shape it and draw and he's like you just hit a pretty straight cut like slight cut it doesn't really matter if the hole sets up for a draw like it's just going to land straight where it's like where you need it to go so i love that you just kept going to that on 12 specifically where it's shapes right to left. You see guys pulling long irons trying to hit like maybe a sting or draw out there. And you were just like, no, my shot's a cut. I'm going to hit a cut to the right side of the fairway. Why wouldn't I do that? Yeah, I'm honestly, it was so funny. The first two days I played with

Austin Neck Road and Alex Noren, and they both pulled iron because they had the T or something. And they both pulled iron and hit it out there. And one guy missed it. One guy hit in the fairway. And then I hit driver and I literally, I pounded it. It was like 40 yards short of the green. I chipped it up to like six feet and made Birdie and they were like, huh. And the next day they both, they all had drivers out. And they were like, maybe that's the play. And, you know, that was something that I learned on Tuesday when I went to play with my buddy. He's like, honestly, Dub, I think you can just ship it over.

And I was like, all right. And then we did it. And I did it in practice like, oh, this is money. And so for me, like on that hole in particular, it didn't matter. Like I knew I could get it into that spot. And even though some of the pins. It made it tough to get close, like when they had the front pin and even on Sunday, you know, I was a little close. I didn't hit the best wedge shot, but the thing was is it didn't matter because that hole was so, even though it seemed like if you hit the fairway, it was an easy hole.

But if you missed the fairway, it was so penal because that rough seemed to be so much higher than everywhere else on the golf course. And it was so hard to advance it into a good spot to get up and down. So I thought, I go, I would hit it the fairway more hitting driver than hitting an iron, which sounds crazy. But on that hole in particular, I just felt more comfortable doing that. I love it. I think that's a less than everybody out there. It's like stick with what you're good at. Put the good club, the good shots in your hands the most that you possibly can and then see where you're at at the end of 18 holes.

I want to talk about 14 real quick. Probably the most pivotal moment. Probably the shot of the tournament. And Rory has said since that that was the moment for him where he feels like, he lost the tournament. You're standing there or the championship. Shod's the USGA. Sorry about that.

You're in the fairway. Rory's got a ruling going on up there. Did you have any idea what the hell was going on? I didn't know. No, I didn't. I actually, I saw him in there. And, you know, in my mind, I was like, okay. You know, I didn't know if he was there in two or three.

And I was like, all right, that's kind of a tough spot. And then, you know, John and I start BS in a little bit. And then we come back. And then I see him getting a. drop. And I go, oh, that's fortunate. I mean, obviously, we didn't know what was going on. I was like, man, that's, that's lucky. It was fortunate. I mean, I don't know what exactly happened. And then he chipped and then missed the put. And I thought he just made paris. I was like, okay, good. He didn't make birdie, whatever. And then someone in the crowd goes, oh, Rory just bogeyed, whatever. And so I was like, oh, all right, that's huge.

And part of me wanted to almost change what we were doing. I was like, all right, you know, it's pretty risky to go for that green because if you come out of it right, you can go out of bounds, you pull it left where Ricky did. It's so hard to get up and down. Obviously, he hit it into the, on the T-box so is easy, but there's rough over there as well. So you had to be pretty precise. And, you know, it was, I mean, it was definitely one of the shots of the tournament. And on Sunday it was probably the best shot I hit, you know, wind off the right,

little into, and I hit this high-cut three-wood. and, you know, I hit it basically into an area of, you know, I was like eight yards wide. And the fact that it hit on the green and then I had an eagle look was, you know, was incredible. I wanted to make that putt so bad because I wanted a huge fist pump there. You know, it's one of those things where I was thinking about. I was like, man, I can't wait to make this. That's awesome. You know, unfortunately, we misread it.

But I wanted to do that because there was a good amount of people there and Rory was on 15 and I wanted to just stick it right to those guys. but you know, you know, you know, walking out of there with the birdie was huge. Yeah, I like, I want to talk last thing

about this mental approach. You just kind of touched on it. Like Rory's right there. You went up against Xander, like I mentioned, at the, at Quail Hollow, took him down.

You come out here all pretty much from Friday on. It's, it's Rory, it's Ricky, it's Scotty, and it's Wyndham Clark. And you talked about how,

you know, you had a little chat with your, with your mental coach before going out. I get the vibe. that you sort of thrive in this environment of, I'm here with the quote unquote bigger names. I'm going to show them kind of who the fuck I am right now.

And I feel like that kind of wires you to be focused, to be determined, to be kind of a bulldog out there. Tell me a little bit more about this kind of mental transformation that you've had out there. Yeah. Well, you know, especially on the whole week, I mean, or sorry, especially on the weekend, Saturday and Sunday. I mean, everyone wanted Ricky. on Saturday was unbelievable.

It was actually unbelievable. It was really cool to be part of it because he's, you know, California-based guy and everyone wanted him. But it kind of fueled a little fire in me and gave me a chip on the shoulder that I was like, man, no one's even room for me. And I was like, I want to show these guys that they're going to be wanting to say my name at the end of the tournament and in tournaments to come. And, you know, I view myself as one of the best, if not the best player in the world.

and I know I can beat these guys, and it's been frustrating in the last few years that I haven't shown that. And, you know, I think people have seen it, and, you know, they've seen the talent and the ability. It just haven't put it all together. And so in this year, I've started to do that. And it's, that's been one of the most fun things because, you know, I love to compete and I love winning and I love seeing, watching people win. And obviously, I love to win. And so putting myself in that situation, you know, it was just, It was just amazing.

And I'm, you know, proud of myself that I'm thriving in those situations rather than turning down from it. And so it's made golf really fun when you get into those moments. And I see why guys have such an obsession of being in the hunt and, you know, having that feeling because there is nothing like it. I mean, it's truly, you know, you have the pit in your stomach. You're nervous. You're trying to calm your mind down. We have so much energy. and then you pull off a shot and then you have that, you know, golf's so cool that way.

It's so quiet. And then you have someone, you make a 40 footer and then the whole place just erupts. And then you have to go and then focus on the next shot and be calm and relax. And so it's such a mental game and that's something I've tackled. And, you know, I'm glad I've done it because it's really changed me as a person and, you know, Wyndham on the golf course is a different person. Sure. Underrated nervey 60 footer on the 70 second hole.

Yeah, I mean, that's probably the best lag putt in my life under the circumstances. You know, obviously I've made really thick lag putts and, you know, made cool putts from whatever distances. But, you know, it seems simple. It was pretty much, you know, foot to two feet out on the right, relatively straight uphill. But, you know, it's 60 feet and you have the two putt to win and that you know that. and I struggle with uphill lag puts. If I have a weakness in my putting, it's uphill lag puts. And, you know, if it was a double breaker downhill sliding, I honestly had been like,

dude, we're going to frame this. But because it's uphill, I always seem to leave them short. And so what I keep telling myself is I go, when this is it's going to be slow, hit it, just make sure you hit it, make sure you hit it. And, you know, once it took off, I felt like I hit it too hard. And so I knew that was a good thing because, you know, Usually when I feel like I hit it good, it comes up four feet short. And so I was just so thankful that I didn't have a testy four-footer to try to win the thing.

It made a lot easier having a little tapping. Were you aware of all of kind of the hoopla of them wrapping the whole green with fans and everything else? Oh, yeah. I mean, it was actually pretty obnoxious. I mean, it was cool. I'm glad they did it because that, you know, that place is amazing. LACC is awesome, but it's not the best for spectators. And on that 18th hole is probably the least, you know,

anti it's an anti-climactic spa because there's not huge you know stadium feel and whatnot so allowing them to wrap around was really cool but it was crazy because they all we heard all this noise and then all these police policemen volunteers like make sure that they don't come on to the green and then guys were jumping in bunkers and so there's a little bit of a distraction and i'm glad ricky had to go first because he kind of like was he was kind of the segue in between me trying to get focused so it was it was uh it was good Yeah, it was like they were like, oh, he's got like an eight shot lead. This is we can just put everybody up there.

They could jump in the bunkers house. I mean, I go guys, but we're going to playoff. We're going to have to get all these people out here. You're going to have to rake that bunker. I mean, there was, but hey, they knew they knew what was going to happen, which was a They trusted you. They trusted Wyden Clark. All right, man.

Look, I know you're busy. I know it's been insane. Congratulations. Congratulations. Like I kind of, like I said, we had you on a year and a half ago. And it was probably for a lot of golf fans, even or sports fans. first time really hearing from Wyndham Clark and now household name of the golf world. So it's just been really, really cool to watch.

It was so gutsy, the ups and down, the up and downs that you had, how gritty you were even when it wasn't going necessarily your way, and then how heroic you were on shots like 14 and getting up and down. It was really sick. So congratulations. Yeah. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.

Absolutely. We'll see you back here in Scottsdale, hopefully soon. Yeah, sounds good. Like four or five weeks. I'll be out there and we can go rip up the town or so. I love it. Thanks, Wyndham. All right.

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Canadian, you know, golfer is always interesting, coming up with not golf conducive weather all the time, going up against these guys that grow up in California or Texas or wherever. They get to play golf 24-7. And here you are, which is amazing. Here you are. A couple months later, we're a little over a week removed from the first Canadian to win the Canadian

open in 69 years. You did it in crazy fashion. What's your status in Canada like right now? You just vaulted to the top? I haven't found out yet. I think we're going to have a little celebration with some friends and family here this week, which would be great. But I haven't tested the bars or anything if I'm getting free beers or not.

Did you not bring you to Canada? Like, did you not do, you know, when the guy wins the US Open, he does like all the morning shows and stuff. Did they not have, you want a media tour right after you won? I did some, I did hockey down in Canada. I introed that, which was amazing. That was game five, actually, the last game. So I kind of recorded some stuff and they did that.

So that was really cool. I did some kind of Zoom radio calls, maybe the Tuesday or Wednesday after the game open. There might be something here coming up, but we try to keep it as minimal as possible just because I was playing the ES Open that week. So I tried to kind of focus on that week. But yeah, we'll do something here pretty soon. But I try to do some big ones, knock it out the first few days after.

And then we'll do something probably this week or next. I want to make sure that your disappointment from last week. You missed a cut last week, which you're obviously not happy about. I don't want that to obscure what you accomplished. I feel like the schedule kind of did you a little dirty. You become the first Canadian to win the PG, to win the Canadian Open in 69 years, which is a great number and a great, a great drought to end. And then you got to go play the US Open the next week.

Like a week off would have been nice in between if the golf gods could have thrown you one of those. No, I would have been nice or even a course that may be set up for me, just a little bit better. It was a beast of a golf course. And the US Open as a grind regardless of kind of how it's set up. I thought last week was an interesting setup with some wider fairways. The greens were super tricky, but I actually played pretty good. You know, I just didn't make enough birdies there that were, you know,

I think I saw Ricky made 18 birdies the first two days, which was insane. I think he had me by about 15 there. So that was. Yeah. Yeah, I actually didn't play that bad. At both end of rounds, I probably ran a little bit of gas. And I was a couple over the last three both days, which kind of ended my tournament right there. But I actually played it right.

It's just kind of golf, you know. It's okay. You beat Joel. Joel, we had one birdie for 36 holes. Yeah, Joel too. He dogged me. We had Joel on right before the show. And he's talking about how he's purring it and feeling good and really like the venue.

So I obviously bet on him to finish like top 40, which isn't fucking crazy. And he missed. And then he went and played tennis? 13 over and played tennis all morning. He's one of a kind that guy. He's one of a kind that guy. You guys, I mean, you guys were roommates in college. Yeah.

No, he is one of a kind. We played a bit of tennis actually in college. We are not good at all. My first year, my roommate went on the tennis team. And we kind of snag his rackets to try to play any decent tennis. But no, Joel flies by the scene with his pants. He does whatever he wants to do. And he's very good at golf.

But sometimes I get the way, I guess. Dude, bad tennis, Matt. matches like between two guys that are bad at tennis is a grind i've done it many times with my buddies back home we went through like a phase it takes forever because every point you're chasing the ball you got to run over people hit it over the fucking fence you're like you there's never any rallies right it's like two shots maximum one guy serves it in if he doesn't double fall next guy hits it back returns everybody's amazed you don't see that coming then you hit it out of play and you got to go chase it it's a grind playing it's a you have to play someone in tennis though that's the same level

is because if you're way worse or way better it's just no fun whatsoever I know I know So who are I mean you mentioned Joel Audissus your roommate who are the guys Who do you kind of run with out there to you? Is it like a Canadian crew I remember in full swing they had the whole

South American kind of Crew was hanging quite a bit together Do you guys stick together Canadian guys? Yeah we're kind of like the ducks fly together type thing we We stay in a lot of houses together You know Corey Mac Adam You know we played the team in together

We spent a lot of time together. Hendrith, Svenson, I feel like I'm missing somebody. No, we all, and you know, there's probably too many guys now for practice rounds. Roger's play Boston. Roger played a couple of practice rounds with them. Yeah, we, I felt like we had about four guys there for a while,

so it was this auto, we played together with practice rounds, and now somebody's drawn the short stick and missing practice rounds here there. No, it's fun. We've gotten a lot closer over time. A couple of those guys are a lot younger. than I am, but Adam and I have known each other for 20 plus years. So it's a lot of fun that we actually came out on tour together, and we've been out of here ever since.

So those are kind of the guys we play a bunch with. Joel, I stayed at them at the PGA, and we try to stay each other when we can. It gets trickier when you travel with families. I feel like, you know, I have two kids now, and they're going to travel a little bit. Joel has his son, so finding big enough houses is tough with crying babies every night. Yeah, you know what his son's name is? I do. I do. I don't know why, but yeah, I do. It's a family name. He was explaining this to me. It's like a family name, quote unquote family name.

Yeah. Same spelling. Yeah, all coincidence. Right, right. That's a common name. I see that name all over the place. So let's get into the tournament, to the Canadian Open. Let's go back a week. U.S. Open, whatever. Honestly, Canadian Open was more more riveting, have better fans, a whole deal. going into the week, you know, Canadian guys, there's a lot of highlight on you. It's the National Open, which we talked a lot on last week's show, about how National Opens are just in. National Opens are as cool as it gets. Going into the week, do you feel extra pressure? Do you feel better than usual?

You know, was there any kind of signs going into last week that this might be a big week? I think I personally felt good about my game. We just had our second child about six weeks ago. So my first event back from that. That was the PGA, thanks. So that was a tough one to come back after three weeks of not really a whole lot of golf. My game had been great before then. Adam and I finished second at Zurich.

That was kind of my send-off into being home for a few weeks. And then I played okay at Colonial, but I had a pretty poor putting week. So I missed a cut there. So it's coming off with two miscuts. Well, I knew my game was where it needed to be. It's kind of needed some putts going in. And then, you know, the first day, I, you know, I had a terrible two or three whole stretch to put me behind the A ball and I shut into shooting three over. So I didn't have a whole lot of pressure going on a Friday.

I knew I had to have a great round just to make the cut. And I made a few putts actually the end of the Thursday round to not shoot like 77 or something. So I was like, all right, maybe hopefully that continues tomorrow. And then I just got off to a great start because that course, if you guys remember, like three students. through six are just beats. If you can get through there with PARs, you're going to be happy. And I made a few birdies. I think I was 300 through 6, maybe that second round kind of just kept it going,

made the cut, and then just went off on Friday, and just kind of continued it. So it was obviously not expected probably Thursday night when I was looking at my score, but everything came together and just kept the momentum going. Let's talk about the crowds a little bit. The crowds were crazy. They were phenomenal. Um, you've played well. I feel like when there's been some pretty good crowds before how, you know,

they're, they were really behind you in the playoff and all that. But even throughout kind of the week, I felt like whenever, uh, whenever a Canadian player came on to a T or one of the PACT T's, it was a, it was a different feel?

Was it like, was it pretty easy for you to channel that into playing better, focusing better, whatever it might be? Yeah, I, it's not very often. I have more than 10 people,

let alone thousands of people in turn, ruined for me. So Sunday was unbelievable. Every tea, every green, I was getting like ovations, which was just like so strange. And I think it kind of showed like in some of my emotion. I'm not a fist pump guy. I'm not like a get riled up. And I think I just was feeding off kind of the energy.

It kind of the atmosphere on 18 was incredible. You know, 10 people deep all the way up the fairway around the greens. So I felt like I fed all that for sure. And it's just a lot of fun kind of playing around that type of crowd. You don't have it very often, and I try to embrace it as much like it. You were an incredible, incredible college player. Yeah, I know, Joel always cites you as like the golden child when you guys were at Washington. You were a player of the year, number one name in the world.

It feels like now you're kind of hitting your peak. This has been, I think, probably the best year of your career. I don't know about on a consistency basis, but you've got a win in two solo seconds. Your eighth in the FedEx Cup. what a strange game this is that at 35, after 13 years as a professional, you're hitting your peak. How do you explain that? You know, after last season, I made some minor changes. We kind of made a commitment to the boring kind of process type stuff.

But I felt like I'm kind of getting to that confidence level where I have confidence in my ability to hit the shots that I want to hit. I felt like, you know, moments like the cane open, you know, the waste management, those moments. I've always felt like I can handle those type of situations. It might not always end up like it did last week, but I felt like I feel relatively comfortable situations. I think just it took a long time, you know, after college, my game kind of went down. It's just taking a long time to get back to where I probably have that confidence where I know in those situations I can pull the shots off. And, you know, this year has been a, my, by far my most consistent year, I've had my highest finishes. I've been in contention way more often. So, you know, it's showing that whatever I've been doing

is working. And so that's been a part of it too is even after my good results, it's back for the same kind of boring stuff if you want to call that and just stick to what I'm doing. Because, you know, it's easier to steer off that stuff when results aren't coming, but this year has been the best year by far. So it's easier to kind of get back to the grind, if you call it, with the easy stuff. There's a couple moments from the playoff I want to talk about. One that really stuck out to me, it's not going to get the highlights as much as maybe the bomb at the end was, I think it was first playoff hole or so when Tommy makes like a 20 footer or so for bird a year in there at about six feet and that's so easy we talk and match play environment all the time about first in

the whole wins Tommy makes whatever it was 15 or 20 footer you had this like six footer I think it was pretty good little right to left there and you stepped into that thing with such pure confidence and buried it what was it going through your mind in that moment after Tommy makes a pretty good size but yeah i've i've been enough in matchplay situations where i feel like my mindset's pretty good of i kind of in your mind you're hoping he misses it but i'm also expecting to make it and so when he made it it was kind of all right let's go i had a very similar line of regulation so i had a pretty idea of what it was doing um and in those moments when it's it's a must make i feel like there's there but it's i know if i miss it doesn't really matter right so i just had to step up hitting a putt and

luckily he went right in the center so that was that was a cool moment too too. When I look back, the put on 18, I felt like I knew I was tied with a couple guys. It felt like it was almost a put to win. So that was a cool moment, too. It was nice to make kind of putts when you need to make them. Lucy, nicotine, gum, pouches and breakers all have three things in common. No tobacco, powerful nicotine and delicious flavors. Lucy's breakers are nicotine pouches which post up in your lip. They chill there releasing sweet, sweet nicotine. I feel like this is right up Dan Rap, Report, Sally. I'm surprised.

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I've seen that. Yeah. How happy were you when you saw him laying up? So when I finished, I was, he was at 15 and I finished at 17. So it's kind of like, all right, we'll kind of see what happens. And he birdied 16. I was like, okay, that's not great. Stuff's it on 17.

I'm like, well, 18 was easiest whole a week. So when he missed the fairway, there was obviously a chance there. I didn't really see enough of the coverage to see what his lie was like. It was a good lie. Yeah, I've heard you. Were you there, Dan? Have you been to the golf course, Dan? Listen, we're not.

Ian is not a guy I want to mess with. Ian's not a guy I want to mess with. No, he's not. The only, when he laid up in the rough after that, though, is when I went to go warm up and hit a few balls because I felt like honestly from there there was probably a better chance he makes six from that side hill rough lie than he actually's going to make four um he had a great leg put and obviously the playoffs started but yeah if he busted a wood up around the green I'm sure he's going to make birdie more often than where he laid it up but I think you know he lays up

in the fairway a lot more than he lays up in the rough there so that was just probably a bit of a tactical error but um when he decided to lay up in the rough that definitely not i didn't say course imagine error. It's a tactical error. Maybe a little executional error. Yes, thank you. Um, so yeah, um, who knows, right? I know I saw you and say like they just stuffed two wedges. You got trust your game plan and they decided that to do that. So every situation is different. Uh, and then obviously the putt, uh, 72 foot eagle bomb walk off what, you know, walk us through kind of the whole moment. You guys have played this whole million times at this point. Um, you know, what did you see from your vantage point?

So I had this, maybe the second playoff hole, I had a similar pot on top of the ridge. The second playoff or third playoff hole, I think I had that chip going up. So I knew relatively what was going on. You know, I'm not, the idea was speed. I guess you try to see the ball going in the hole, but the process wasn't, hey, I'm going to make this.

It's 72 feet. That just happens, literally, that's never happened to my career. So, you know, it was all. kind of speed again i think i said it before i knew with the rain coming down it's so easily that put like 10 feet short with with how slow it was up the hill and to hit it hard enough um was kind of a miracle in itself right there but to kind of drip in the center was was wild and my initial my initial reaction was complete shock and then you know dave marples have been one of my best buddies for a long time but to be on my bag last year he's been a huge impact but to see him charging

on me is really the only thing i remember and then i kind of blacked out but that was pretty did you pretty fun pictures after that. At what point in the round did you put the security hit out on Adam Hadwin? Oh, that is also unbelievable. Yeah, that's actually happened twice at the cane open. Someone told me when Ches Revy won, like, I don't know when he won, 15 years ago maybe, somebody came out with champagne as well and got a deck. I think that's the only tournament that's happened twice, which is a good security up north.

They're not necessarily. No, no, we can't have heckwooded on the 18th Green. No, you know, we talked about that a lot. We're saying you'd rather have your security guard go that way than the other way. Like, you'd rather have him being too diligent than lackadaisical. That guy can't have on his conscience some unruly fan coming out and attacking the Canadian Open winner with a, with a bottle of champagne. It's just unacceptable. So he took care of the situation.

The world has now benefited from him doing that. So, it's great. Boy, I had, I enjoyed. that I just enjoyed the hell out of that, all the different angles. There was the, I'm sure you've seen him with the slow-mo of, with the Titanic music play. Oh, that's by far my favorite video. It is incredible. He wraps around that corner just, and then I saw there was a spoof, the NFL network joined the PJTUR and had them talking about this elite linebacker or something. It was incredible. He did a little swim move to get around

on my other guys. It was just elite. It was so good. It was fantastic. So, Okay, so afterwards you wrap up, you know, you guys, you have your celebration, you got to do media. You know, I like to, we kind of just asked when I'm Clark this, but like at what point that night was there a moment where you got to be alone or even with just a handful of people that are close to you and like soak it in a little bit on Sunday night? Yeah, we went back to, I was staying downtown a week. So we went back down there. There was maybe like eight of us. It wasn't, wasn't crazy. You know, we didn't, we didn't go nuts because I had to fly out the next day, but.

a couple solitary drinks. It was a lot of fun. And then my wife who was was out west, three hour time day, she's like, I'm not sleeping all night. Just call me when you're back. So we were able to chat for, you know, I was probably like two in the morning for her four, five in the morning for me. And we're just like, what just happened? What does this mean type thing? So that was kind of the end of the night, which again, I don't, this hasn't probably sunk in. I think for just what it happened, how it happened. And maybe what this means for kind of my career going forward. But, you know, that was a fun moment just to kind of reminisce what's going on because more and more people slowly came over to our house over here and started watching with her. And so yeah, it was fun to kind of hear

the stories that were going on here as well. There are four Canadians who I want to ask whether you've heard from because you are a Canadian hero and these are the, for me, the four Canadians that I want to know if you've heard from. Number one, Justin Trudeau. He tweeted. He tweeted at me. What does that count? That counts. I think so. I mean, he's the guy. I mean, he's the prime minister. I think that counts. That counts. Okay, Wayne Gretzky, golf guy. So, Wayne called me. We're leaving the golf course, and we're going to the McDonald's drive-thru to grab

some food. We're all starting. Hell yeah. And we were like literally, what'd you get? What'd you get? What's your order? We got, we got a lot. We got 20 nuggets.

We got cheese burgers, fries. We got the works. It was delicious. Any McFlurries? McFlurries really good. No. I know they're good, but at the time I wasn't feeling it. That's fair.

Okay. Anyway, he calls. we're like almost the drive-through and then Jordan, who my agent was there and he like kind of backed up out. And so we're just kind of sitting there. He's on speaker talking for like three minutes. It was pretty funny. Wayne, you kind of delayed our McDonald's order, but we'll let it slide.

Okay, we're two for two. I feel like we might go over two on these next two. I actually have five. There's one more after. Drink. Okay. No. Nothing from drink.

That's tough. Okay. Justin Bieber. No. Okay. Last one. This one might actually, I want to finish above 500. Connor McDavid.

No. Wow. two for five okay we started off hot yeah yeah i would say of those five i would have expected maybe one i think the over and a half the over for me would have been like one and a half the over we get the over

but you also i feel like you gave trudeau about a half there so maybe we just saw it's actually a good point it's actually a point wayne grtsky i thought you know i figured wayne gratsky hangs around golf enough that he would know where to find you correct way no i can see way no is like one of the you know i mean way no was a huge name. He's definitely getting out there more, though, with the T&T and doing the hockey stuff. So, yeah, he was, we chat a bit, but he was doing the Stanley Cup panel deal. And I think he was going to be in Vegas and maybe at the S Open anyways. No, it was great of him to call. That was really nice.

Amazing. So, uh, so what's next? I know you're not, you're obviously not playing this week. You're up in Canada. You're kind of hanging. What's, uh, what's next? How are we going to attack the finish of this season? I'm going to do the John Deere and then fly from there to the Scottish and British. my whole crew is going to come so there's a charter plane from John here's Scottish which works out great for us but yeah that's kind of the next three I've never played in a British Open

which I'm really excited about Unreal Yeah Of all the majors I felt like If there's one that I have a chance to win I feel like the British is probably up my alley A lot of these majors are getting so long now that I feel like there's only handful of guys

that can actually actually win some of these events not that I can't compete, but I feel like at some point when someone's hit in 30 yards further than me, it's going to catch up. But I feel like the British, I've never played Hoy Lake where it is this year, but I'm looking forward to it a lot. I got to start to mentally prepare myself when you said the Scottish Open for them to say Renaissance when they talk about that golf course. I got to wire my brain and get ready for that. That's a big week. I know.

I will definitely say Renaissance more than once. Oh, yeah. Corrected. Oh, yeah. Have you played that event? Do you play that one last year? I played there last year, yeah. It's a great event.

It's not super firm, though, that core. I guess they kind of made it a little firmer last year, but I remember some guys complained in the year before that it was like not a great preparation. Yeah, so everyone who, the scores were way lower the year before there, so you kind of preparing for that. And then last year, I think Xander won at like 600 or 7 under. It was pretty windy, but that's what I would, I love it when it's like that. Right.

You know, there's high fescue grass. the greens from what I'm told again I'm not very links I haven't played a lot of links golf courses but the greens were more new age from what they said but again it was it's such fun golf over there so uh were you uh were you like an alternate for the open last year no I wasn't no I was probably went over to play the Scottish because why not yeah I got in last second they had three or four spots I was like you know what let's just let's go do it cool um and I took the week off after but did you hang out that area because that area is unbelievable for golf did you play any other?

courses while you were there? I didn't play North Barric. I'm going to do it this year. My brother's coming over. We'll probably, we'll play around. I went to Edinburgh for a night. Cool city. I went out with amazing city. I wish I got to spend a few more days. But yeah, it'll be now that I've gone there once, we can kind of plan a little more. But North Barrett, which is where the golf course essentially is, it's such a cool little town. Yeah, I've heard that that North Barrett's probably a top five bucket list golf course for me at this point. I've heard about it so much. I remember Max last year, like made the cut on Friday and then went and did like a twilight round at North Barrett.

Yeah. It's pretty cool. Well, it gets dark at like 11 o'clock at 19. I know. We played, uh, we were filming last year out there. It's funny to think like we probably played more like links golf courses that you have out there shooting like 83. But we last year we played Carnusti and we teed off at like 630.

And I remember we were coming up. It was 10.45 at night when we were finishing on 18 and we could see totally five. Yeah. It always makes you reminisce when I grew up here in the summers. You know, it wasn't quite that late because they're a little, more north but 10 p.m. we're at the golf course till every night in the summer. It's just the best.

That's great. Unreal man. Well, yeah, that Canadian open with the fans, they had the whole hockey boards on one hole and the rowdiness. And then for the crowd to be as behind you as they were and then you to deliver that clip, that'll be iconic for the rest of your life. You'll be remembered for that 72-foot bomb, walk off eagle. It was just so sick. so sick. Nick, I want to say something before we go. Nick, you're top 10 in the, you know,

in the Comcast top 10. You're 8th. You got a little bit more clout now on the PJ tour. Can you get them to put some juice behind the Canadian Open? Can we get that on the elevated event schedule? Can we get all the big boys to Canada? I would love that. I know RBC would love that. I know the country would love that. I feel like we've had pretty good top side of fields. We'll see, man. I think there's a lot in the works right now currently. So it's such a, I felt the last two years after, after the hiatus of COVID,

the atmosphere has been unbelievable. When Roy won in Hamilton in 19, it was great, but I feel like it's gone up another level. The rinkhole, you guys would love it. It's such an atmosphere that's unique. It's,

you know, they've kind of probably copied a bit of like the waste management model, which has happened a lot of tournaments, but to have their own little uniqueness of green Canada, hockey, the rink, it's awesome.

I got to get to the Canadian Open. It's one of the few tour events that I truly want to go to that I've never, that I've never been to before. It looks awesome. It looks fun. Anytime we get the National Open, like we said, that sort of embraces it. We'll call him on a hand. I don't think he's got, his schedule seems pretty open.

So we'll give him a ring. We'll put our lobbying efforts in to get the Canadian Open elevated, get some of the, get the biggest star power up there. And we'll get up there and check it out. I want to see a Canadian Open. You'll be defending champion next year. How bad ass is that. Let's do it.

That's sweet. Unreal. All right, man. Well, good luck. Thanks, guys. Safe travels everywhere. Safe travels over to Scotland, obviously, and we'll be pulling for you. We appreciate the time.

Congratulations again. Congratulations. See you soon. Fuck!