Fourth Reich Archaeology - #075 - Is This It?

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

It’s Christmas, 2025 is almost over, and the insanity of the world - the seemingly unaccountable criminality of our rulers - is on full display. Scan any newspaper, scroll the feed of your “favorite” social media app, and it’s hard not to feel an all-encompassing sense of dread and doom, and of powerlessness. Enter Dick and Don with some holiday “cheer.” Or, more than cheer, analysis and righteous indignation - our specialty.In this episode, we take a look at the headlines from hell that have marked the past weeks to reiterate what our longtime listeners already know all too well: we ARE living in the Fourth Reich. Down South America way, yet another actual Nazi scion has been elected president of a whole-ass country, namely José Antonio Kast in Chile, son of a dyed in the wool ratline escapee with big plans to revive and resurrect the legacy of the cruel Pinochet dictatorship. That’s another domino felled by the AmerIsraeli empire in what we’re calling “Operation Condor 2.0.” Meanwhile, plans continue apace for the imperial conquest of Venezuela and the seizure of its oil, including a bill introduced by Bernie Sanders’s “good friend” Mike Lee (R-UT) to authorize the president to issue letters of marque, empowering Amerikan pirates to prowl the Caribbean once more.Speaking of the Caribbean, we look at the latest Epstein document dumps and assess whether anything will happen in response. Seems unlikely, even though the pedophile government is more unpopular than ever. Like, who is still supporting these utterly degenerate freaks?TPUSA - that’s who. And that’s where we end our episode, discussing the WWE style griftfest of Erika Kirk and friends. That’s also where we try to draw some hope for the future: the depravity, the artificiality, the totally vacuous performance that the Amerika-firsters put on display (not to mention the “night of the long knives” circular firing squad taking shape among the fascist ranks over support for Israel) is doomed to fail. But rather than let the craven democrats pick up the pieces of the wreckage, we need to build our own power base for humanity. And with that in mind, let’s onto 2026!!

This office is closed. This whole wing is closed. Grace! Grace! Woo-wee! That was a good one. How are you, kid? You were...

Uh... Would you excuse me? I'll make myself a little drink. Bango! Bango! Bamba! Bamba! Bamb! Bamb! Bamb! Blam! Blam! I don't mind you're hitting me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi.

Frank, you are in trouble. you are in trouble. Big trouble. All right. Let's just say, for argument's sake, that you're right, that I am in big trouble. What exactly would that mean? Look at me. Look at your future. Now, if you don't change your ways, you're going to wind up doomed, just as I have. I've been under a lot of pressure lately. I've been putting on a big silence! Ow!

I had it all. I was a captain of industry. Feared by men, adored by women. Adored! Let's be honest, Lou. You paid for the women. I'm warning you, Frank. Don't waste your life as I did mine. Waste! How can you say that? You're a legend in this business. You're the man who invented the miniseries. Mankind should have been my business.

Charity, mercy, kindness. That should have been my business. Don't wait. Get yourself involved. It's too late for me, but it's not for you. You can be saved. you are going to be visited by three ghosts. The following is a passage of the 18th Broomer of Louis Bonaparte by Carl Marx. Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add, The first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please. They do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis, they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history

in time, honored disguise, and borrowed language. Thus Luther put on the mask of the Apostle Paul, the Revolution of 1789 to 1814, draped itself alternatively in the guise of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire. And the Revolution of 1848 knew nothing better to do than to parody, now 1789, now the revolutionary tradition of 1793 to 95. In like manner, the beginner who has learned a new language always translates it back into his mother tongue, but he assimilates the spirit of the new language and expresses himself freely in it only when he moves in it without recalling the old, and when he forgets his native tongue.

But unheroic though bourgeois society is, it nevertheless needed heroism, sacrifice, terror, civil war and national wars to bring it into being. And in the austere classical traditions of the Roman Republic, the bourgeois gladiators found the ideals and the art forms, the self-deceptions, that they needed to conceal from themselves the bourgeois limited content of their struggles and to keep their passion on the high plane of great historic tragedy. Thus, the awakening of the dead in those revolutions serve the purpose of glorifying the new struggles, not of parodying the old, of magnifying the given task in the imagination, not recoiling from its solution in reality, of finding once more the spirit of revolution

not making its ghost walk again. Imperialism, as the slave system of the West is called, is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. So it's one huge complex or combine. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. And this international power structure is used to suppress the mass of the massive. of dark-skinned people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources. We found no evidence of conspiracy, foreign or domestic, the Warren Commission of science.

I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. In 1945, we began to acquire information which showed that there were two wars going on. His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders the more easy victims of a big lie than a small. For example, we're the CIA. Now, he has a mile. He knows so long as to die. Freedom can never be secure.

It usually takes the national crisis. Freedom can never be secure. Pearl Harbor. A lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. Why you think our country's so innocent? I am. This is a lot.

This is fourth Reich. I'm Dick. And I'm Don. Welcome back, listener, and happy holidays. Apologies in advance. We are once again a little bit. off schedule here, off time zone, and doing this by the seat of our pants. I am coming at you with a bit of a cold, as you might hear in my voice, and might sniffle a time

or two, try not to cough, or I'll at least try to mute if I do cough. But, you know, we cannot, we cannot leave you all hanging on this week of Christ's birth. That's right. it's Christmas time, and we know that you are waiting to hear what we might make of the absolute insanity that's surrounding us now. So that's what we're going to talk about. That's what we're going to talk about. Dick, how are you doing, man? I'm doing great. It's been a hell of a week. It usually is a hell of a week on the lead up to this holiday week of ours. You know, as a Muslim American, I don't really celebrate Christmas. My wife is, my wife is a Catholic, so we do do the Christmas Day stuff, and I sort of rely on her for the guidance on what

to do during the holidays. But for me, Christmas is very much a commercial holiday, and it's crazy every year. It's almost the same shit. It's like the news lead up to Christmas Day is always a fun time. Before we get into all of that, I want to say once again, as always, thank you to everyone for tuning in. Thank you to everyone for supporting the pod, for liking the pod, for commenting about the pod, for spreading the word. Look, we don't ask for much over here at Fourth Reich archaeology. But what we do ask is that you use your power as an individual to spread the word about this project

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other regimes in the region or whatever. And we give our take on that. So, you know, there will be more and there is a lot brewing over there on Patreon as we continue to build this community. To us, it is not parasocial. This is our friend group. This is a... It's a real thing, baby. That's right. Well, let's get right into it.

Shall we say the magic words? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's get a dig-in. Chile has elected its most right-wing president in 35 years of democracy. The arch-conservative Jose Antonio Cass, sweeping to around 58% of the vote with an unassailable lead over Jeanette Jara who headed a broad leftist coalition. Cass campaigned on a promise to expel more than 300,000 immigrants, taking a firm hand on near-record crime rates and to restart the stalled economy. Is this it?

Is this it? We need America to wake up and prioritize Israel. Is this it? You have amazing role models like our handsome dashing, dashing president. And you have amazing role models like the assassin, J.D. Vance, our vice president. Why don't you kick us off? I think the, let's take a look at the Western Hemisphere and the

southern western hemisphere for a moment yeah that's right so first you know just to set the table i think it bears mentioning that this episode we're calling it is this it and this is a question to pose to yourself to those around you existentially right to your creator to the higher power that you may or may not commune with when you close your eyes. And why we're asking that... Ask your parents. Yeah. Might be surprised with your response you get.

You might actually get something deep. That's right, yeah. And the reason why we're asking this question now is because for the various stops that we'll make along the journey of the next hour or so, all of these signs point to a real dark place, right? There's no real probability or possibility that there's a quick and easy political solution to the deep rot at the core of this horrific Fourth Reich project, this fascist spectacle that we all unfortunately inhabit.

And now, unlike in past epochs that are historical. episodes cover such as the Kennedy assassination, the 1970s, and the political violence roiling the scene in that era, or as we'll get to later, you know, the 80s and the Reagan era, where you have little drips and drabs of a tiny vantage upon a bigger octopus or a monster of empire that is difficult to make sense of without the bigger picture. But here we are, it's about to turn the calendar from 2025 to 26, and the cards are all on the fucking table. The criminality is on the surface.

They are, to quote, Alex Jones, they're rubbing it in our faces, folks. it could not be more brazen right the administration is killing fishermen on the high seas with no justification let alone any evidence the opposition party the democrats are up to their eyeballs in corruption scandals of their own the europeans with their european charter of human rights and all of those feel good European social democratic norms that have developed since World War II are sitting there absolutely neutered and unable to do anything but continue to play lap dog to Uncle Sam. I mean, things look extremely bleak. And meanwhile, those of us who want to resist

or speak up or do anything, we are left to do so in the form of the old protest. And that's basically the corner of the corner of the room that you are in. If you think that anything that's going on today is fucked up, well, there'll be a march this weekend. You can sort of work yourself up and work it all out and then get back to fucking work on Monday. That's right. The old spectacle of dissent. or you know you could follow your boy chomsky the great dissident of the late 20th century

onto the fucking Lolita Express yeah so we're going to take a little survey of the fucked uppedness that surrounds us and as we always do as is the fourth Reich archaeology friendship and love podcast promise, try to scrape out just a little bit of a silver lining and maybe some thoughts and ideas that can fuel us into a better 2026. Okay. So to begin, right, we have covered the subject rather expansively in geopolitic seven with respect to this. brewing war against Venezuela. And to be clear, that ought to be really top of mind for everyone, because it would be so disastrous and it is so criminal the motivations and the plans of the warmongers

with their dirty little sights on our neighbor to the south, not direct neighbor, of course, but in the Monroe Doctrine. Anything in our hemisphere is our neighbor, right? And as we said in that episode, you know, the war planning against Venezuela is not just to be seen as a sort of two-party issue, as an issue of the United States and the Venezuelan governments. It is part of a much larger picture, a hemispheric picture. And unfortunately, recently, in the very recent days,

there's another negative development in that hemispheric picture that we wanted to discuss with all of you, our beloved listeners. That is, of course, the very Fourth Reich relevant election of Nazi Nepo Baby Jose Antonio Kast in the Republic of Chile. Now, Jose Antonio, I want to start with the name, Jose Antonio Kast. Okay, this guy was born to Michael Kast, who himself was born in Bavirio. He was born in Bavaria in 1924 and served in the Hitler youth during his teenage years. After those teenage years, he joined the National Socialist Workers Party, commonly known as the Nazi Party, in 1942.

He was ahead of the curve. At the time that Kast joined the Nazis, only about 10% of Germans were members. So he really does not have the excuse of, well, everybody was doing it, or it was the only thing you could do to survive in the economy at the time. No, this guy was a fucking Nazi. And he was a fucking Nazi who rose to the rank of lieutenant in the Wehrmacht during World War II. And unfortunately, we will never know the crimes that he may have committed. during his time bearing arms for Adolf Hitler. Why? Because after the war, and here's where the

Fourth Reich part comes in, he first escaped American custody by posing as a member of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Shout out to our noided heads who are already well aware of Suss Red Cross. And if you're not, I know that Program to Church, covered that. Another suss red-crossed exponent, of course, was American Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell, if I'm remembering correctly. So after he escaped custody, he underwent so-called denazification, and in that process made friends with one of his prosecutors who burned all of his wartime records. So that's why we'll never know Michael Costs war crimes, but we can assume, I think it's fair to assume,

guilty until proven innocent for early joiners of the Nazi party that this guy got up to some nasty business. After that, like many other Nazis, he elicited the help of the Vatican rat lines and made his way to Chile. and opened up a sausage factory appropriately enough. Frank Furtes. And of course, we're not going to be laborate here,

but our listeners, if you're not already familiar with the Nazi community in Chile, including Colonia Dignidad, all of these other. really disgusting, despicable people like Paul Schrader, the leader of that colony, a pedophile child rapist, you know, human experimenter, you name it in his own right, that you can look up on your own time. But for our purposes, getting back to the now president-elect of Chile, The cost patriarch, this Nazi piece of shit, had himself ten children. This, of course, is in line with that Nazi eugenic desire to populate the earth with good Aryans.

And one of his children is this piece of shit, Jose Antonio. Why do you think he named him Jose Antonio? Do you have a guess, Dick? because if not, no biggie, but I can fill it in for you. I think I have a guess. Yeah, why don't you fill it in? So Jose Antonio is a very popular fascist name, and the reason is because Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera

was the founder of the Spanish Falange, the fascist party here in Spain, who really set the state. stage for the rise of the Franco dictatorship. And so my money is on Jose Antonio Kost being named after Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera. And Jose Antonio's big brother, Michael Kost, he was, again, Fourth Reich, everywhere, everywhere you look, people, was granted a Ford Foundation scholarship to study where the University of Chicago

in the Department of Economics. That's right. Came back home to Chile with many other Chicago boys to neoliberalize and fuck the economy of Chile during the Pinocet dictatorship. And today, Kast is engaging in an almost unprecedented ever. effort to rehabilitate the Pinocet regime to call Salvador Allende, the democratically elected

president of Chile, who is overthrown by a CIA-backed coup on September 11, 1973. Kast calls Allende, the first dictator of Chile. So imagine just how fucked this guy really is. and it's yet another domino in what we called the reverse domino theory whereby the U.S. is seeking to reinstate a Plan Condor 2.0 in South America, a right-wing alliance of dictatorships that now spans really most of the continent and is closing in on Brazil, Venezuela, and Colombia. Really not much real estate left as the gloved fist of fascism closes in on continental domination.

You hate to see it. Yeah, the Planned Condor thing, what we're coming to realize is Planned Condor was a real long, con there right it's it's it's those uh trees are starting to bear fruit and it really is like not much has changed down south america way where it is the situation where you have on one side these countries that are very much fascistic regimes and then on the other side you have these sort of homegrown socialist movements communist movements people who want to want to keep the resources and the labor and all of that to themselves, keep that stuff for the people who actually produce the goods, for the people who actually toil over

the land. People who are extracting the resources should be able to keep those resources, not really sure how it's going to play out in South America, but the signs, they're not pointing to anything good. pointing to anything good. And, you know, you said socialist, communist, the fact is that the governments in Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, they're really not even that far to the left. I would say social democratic kind of at best. And hopefully, you know, the threat, I think that they can't really ignore the threat of imperialist aggression at this point, but one must hope that the very

real encroachment of imperialist power upon their shores and upon the heads of the very leaders will motivate some turn to a more radical posture. And I wouldn't bet my money on it, but to the extent, you know, we do have Friends of the Pod down South America way and we're on the same page. You know, they have got to put aside the sort of short-term political interests at a party level in favor of a real human future. and so, you know, as we kind of mark each one of these issues for our hopes and our wishes for going into the new year, I think certainly a much more radical, a much more solidarity-fueled vision for humanity's future with a basis and a home base in, America is something that really we all kind of depend on on a geopolitical level. And so, you know, to our North American listeners, pay attention to what's going on down there,

make these connections with comrades down there and view history and view the future and view politics through a lens in internationalist level. that accounts for a solidarity that cuts much, much deeper than what's confined in national borders. And Dick, I think now maybe you're going to talk about one of these threat augmentations with the very brazen theft of resources that we're doing from up here in the global north. Some job creation. You know, student loans are kicking back in. They're not having very much luck recruiting for ICE.

And so Congress in all of its genius, and I should really say it's just one guy, there is a bill that's being introduced or has been introduced by Senator Mike Lee of the great state of Utah. Pyramid Watch, baby. Mormon Mafia. Yeah, baby. So this guy, Mike Lee, has introduced a bill that is proposing to have Congress issue letters of mark and reprisal, basically engaging in this idea of hiring privateers, private citizens to go out to the high seas and claim what is theirs.

this idea is not new it actually comes from a time where the king would issue these letters to private people private companies and they would go out and they would fight alongside the navy or they would go into an area where the navy maybe couldn't go and they would do some damage to the local navy or the local fleet and famously this is when where all of the many pirates of the 18th and early 19th century, this is sort of the source of authority

where these letters of Mark from the king, the last time the United States did something like this, which I should say, by the way, it is, I think, in our constitution where Congress can do this. But the last time they did was in the early 19th century, I think around the war of 1812. And the idea is that, okay, the Navy maybe doesn't have the resources,

maybe can't exactly do the types of things that these privateers could do because they are held accountable. The idea is you get a ship, you go out into the seas, and you have, under the authority of the United States, you are essentially deputized to go out and intercept anything you see out there and take it. Seize the assets on the ship, maybe kill the people, on the boat. And traditionally, this idea of a letter of Mark and this, you know, idea of

privateers, and by the way, most of the time, privateers, if you're on the other side of that, you call them pirates. Right? Privateers is sort of a smoothing over the fact that these are just private citizens coming and taking shit that isn't theirs. But the interesting thing to me is that, you know, most of the time when we're talking about, privateers and pirates, we're talking about folks going and getting gold or gems or ammunition or things that were, you know, super useful for advancing the war powers. And in this instance, in Venezuela, slaves back in the day, too. Right, yes. I think. Yes, yes. Yeah, basically things that would, you know, you would be able to keep whatever you got you were able to keep, right? That was the exchange.

And the king would say, hey, you have authority to go out into the Caribbean and attack any French vessel you see or attack any, in the case of America, attack any British vessel you see. And, you know, you do the damage on the ships and the Navy men and you can keep whatever you find. And oftentimes that was gold, that was money, that was maybe property, it could be slaves. in this instance, Mike Lee, Senator Lee, is proposing that we do this for the situation of Venezuela. And this really has me scratching my head because if we are to believe the sort of Republican line, the party line that there are drugs, this is fentanyl, this is drugs coming into our country, these are terrorists bringing illegal drugs to our country, What's the play there? So if I get a letter of Mark, I can go out there and get all the fentanyl and keep it for myself. Is that the move?

Because that would be, that's the exchange, right? Like, what do I get out of it as a privateer? Is it just that I get to go and kill a bunch of Venezuelans? What's my payoff? Hey, you know, there is precedent. Take that shit and sell it to China, you know? Opium War number three will go take. take the drugs and push them on to some more non-whites out there among the Global South countries.

Right. It's like they have this setup where they have privateers and they're taking applications for privateers and then all of a sudden like the Sackler family who writes in or like these pharmaceutical companies and they start signing up and. Hey, they were already doing it from Afghanistan. stand through the Fort Bragg Cartel. Exactly. As detailed in the eponymous book on the subject, right? And so it's nuts. It's like, it's almost like

right in our faces, they're just doing it, or they're putting up this process. And this time around, it's just totally transparent that if you are in the pharmaceutical industry, maybe set up a subsidiary that has a ship.

Yeah. Or, you know, take a page out of Galane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein's book and set up some experimental living arrangements out there in international waters. Remember Galane's ocean, was it the Ocean Foundation or something like that? They were all connected with these sort of libertarian, tech-minded billionaire people who wanted to start colonies basically outside the reach. of any sort of jurisdictional limits, who knows, the possibilities truly are endless given the era that we are living in, which of course is, as we've said from day one, August of 2024, the time for crime.

What we maybe didn't know was that Senator Mike Lee, who at least on my radar, he was always just a random Republican guy who Bernie Sanders was always blathering about as my friend Senator Mike Lee as a guy who, you know, co-signed these war powers resolutions to prevent war with Iran or who, you know, took some action against monopolies and voted for stronger antitrust enforcement this is the kind of republican that crosses the aisle to work with your faves Bernie Elizabeth Warren and company and it's a yet another sign besides being just dastardly criminality in the open and one minor point to correct I think that the letters, the bill would authorize the president to give letters of Mark, which is even more

ironic because it's like, oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more like the king, right, yeah. I actually had a verse on this, so one of my favorite songs, Barrett's Private Tears, here I go, oh, the year was 2026, how I wish I was in Sherbrooknan, when a letter of Mark came from DJT. Yeah, it's true because it's... Listener, you've got to know that Dick in his spare time is quite the shantyman. I love the C shanties. But you're absolutely right.

I think the concept, and I don't have it with me, this is a real slip. But I think in the Constitution it says Congress can do it. And I think the bill says, and I guess I don't know, it might be a technicality, but the bill authorizes Donald Trump to do it. It's great, right? just another kind of imagine that we're all in, as Philip K. Dick called it, the black iron prison, right? And we are all writing tick marks on the walls to mark the passage of time and to mark the instances of overt criminality among the pedophiles that control our lives and our destinies.

and this is just yet another one of these tick marks that we are scratching into the stone in the black iron prison. And again, it is all out in the open and there's no excuse, you know, to plead ignorance here in the waning days of the year 2025. I want to direct the listener and give a shout out to a great article that I read this morning by Mo Chesik. Maybe I'm not pronouncing that right. She is a journalist at the American Prospect and wrote a phenomenal sweeping article all about how this agenda of the Trump administration to essentially install far right-wing drug cartel leading dictators in every country in South America in order to allegedly fight against drug trafficking. And she goes all through Little Marco Rubio's full mafia criminal background,

and really unpacks the level of hypocrisy baked in to these obviously imperialist objectives that all of our hard-earned tax dollars are financing to the hilt. And good Lord, if that isn't something to get real good and mad about. There's some other stuff in the news that. also kind of makes us angry dick in that right oh are we getting into the is are we going to Erica Kirk now not yet no I wanted to oh man I wanted to take just a stop in the Caribbean you know we're going up from from South America I thought it would be you know before we get all the way out to the deserts of Arizona to the

T P USA America Fest you know I thought that we should we should should just take a stop. Oh, right. The Caribbean are favorite. So, listener, we are not an Epstein podcast. There are so many peers that do Epstein stuff. And we leave that to them, but we got to talk about it. I think this is what you're getting to, right? The Epstein stuff. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, and why don't you take it? Yeah. So to just frame it up, you know, we've talked a little bit about and the spectacle of war, the spectacle of international relations and diplomacy and whatever, you want to call the bullshit excuses that are being bandied about for what is blatantly imperial resource-grabbing aggression. I mean, you mentioned the capture of drugs under these potential letters of Mark,

But regardless of the letters of Mark issue, of course, the U.S. has already seized and attacked oil tankers and is confiscating not only the oil on board, but the boats on board. I mean, we're talking millions and millions of dollars worth of property that belongs to other countries and other countries' companies. and this, you know, contradiction with the supposed respect for property rights that this country was founded on just goes absolutely unspoken. And, you know, Trump has now, even himself admitted that the aims of his actions directed towards Venezuela are not, in fact, related to drug trafficking at all but have to do with oil and he brazen I mean just like I keep using the word brazen I got to get out the thesaurus but shamelessly accuses Venezuela of stealing its own oil from American oil companies so I mean the mask is off okay we got it we understand that It's like when you're sitting around the Christmas ham or whatever this holiday season, please do not countenance any apologies for American imperialism.

It must not be tolerated. It's just disgusting. It's despicable. It is evil. It is immoral. It is indefensible. which our leaders are perverts yes it would not be i think at this point if there's any doubt for anyone out there like literally across the board the people in power doesn't matter if they're

democrats doesn't matter if the republicans they are pedophiles they like to dittle kids they enjoy the process of hiding it they enjoy the process of being caught they are fucking sickos people fucking sickos and they are undertaking on the micro level the same sort of rapacious predation that their governments that they control are carrying out at the macro level and of course the epstein issue uh to sort of put it under an umbrella is a microcosm of that phenomenon So, of course, in the last week or so, we have seen Congress pass a law requiring the Department of Justice to release all of its files pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. And the DOJ went ahead and released a lot of redacted crap, along with some little tidbits of information and photographic and video evidence. And, you know, I don't know that, like you said, we're not an Epstein podcast.

We're not going to dig into what's been released. There's plenty of other places where you can find that. We're not an Epstein podcast, but we are a lawyer podcast. And I swear, one of my favorite things, you're talking about the evidence dump and one of the sort of images that flashed in my head, I love this fucking thing in this space of, like, evidence collection. Oh, yeah. the CDs where it's like the photograph of the CD, you know? It's like we don't, we don't have the CD, but we have a photograph of the CD. And that is enough because like the label on the photo of the CD is like pretty damning.

It's like not even like nondescript. It's like it's like pretty, it's like says something like little girls. Clinton, Asia. Right. Not little girls. There was one Jean-Luc gay picks about Jean-Luc. Luke Brunel, the French pervert modeling executive, who was a close associate of Epstein that also, quote unquote, committed suicide in prison after being arrested related to all this shit.

So for me, like, seeing that evidence dump was hilarious. Yeah, it was, and it's also, like, as you said, we're a lawyer podcast, and I would be surprised, if, you know, between the two of us, we didn't have at least a few dozen classmates from back in the law school days that are working in the DOJ now. And so we did want to take this opportunity, I did at least, to tell any lawyer that is working for the Department of Justice who debased themselves. to apply these redactions, you know, obviously some of which the ones about little kids' faces and things like that are legit. And, you know, we're not saying that the vast amount of files that were labeled simply child sexual abuse material, CSAM, not scanned.

We're not saying that any of that stuff should have been made public. But I think that it's not news to anybody listening here that the degree of redactions is clearly a massive cover-up to protect many, many powerful people both in the current government and friendly to the current government that anybody can see. And we just one point is it's also a classic lawyer move, and I'm just calling it right now. like they've now laid a stake, right? They put out all these documents with all of these redactions. I'm sure knowing full well that there's going to be pushback and they're going to eventually maybe make some concessions. So it's like, you know, not saying that I do this in my practice,

but it's a very common practice of strategy where the first thing you produce is sort of over-inclusive, right? Knowing full well that people are going to come at you and you're going to have to make concessions in places and maybe unredact some things that you may have decided to unredact in the first instance, but decided to keep redacted just as a bargaining chip. So it's like very much a strategy at play, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's at play here. Right. But one thing is to do so in private litigation, where you are following, you know,

the federal rules of civil procedure, or maybe you're following some agreed upon protective order, or whatever the case may be, another thing is when you are supposed to be complying with a piece of legislation passed with the explicit purpose and goal of revealing the contents of these materials to the public. And when you impose those redactions in the same way that you would in a private litigation, you are not only violating the letter and the spirit, of that legislation, you are violating your ethical obligations to undertake good faith efforts to comply with the law. And every single one of those DOJ lawyers, because be clear, these are not interns, these are not, you know, paralegals, or just your run-of-the-mill political appointees

that are doing these redactions. These are people who consider them. themselves part of a government bureaucracy that is apolitical, that is not beholden to the whims of whoever is in the White House, right? The DOJ attorneys that I have come across in my career are usually people that think very highly of themselves and of the moral justification for what they do as something that serves a higher calling, I call bullshit upon you, and I wish that every single one of those attorneys who are violating their oath to the Constitution to uphold and defend the laws of the United States are deeply, deeply, deeply ashamed of themselves for the craven undermining of the public access that they are engaged in to protect

these absolute sicko pedophile criminals who run the country like what the fuck are you doing with yourself what the fuck are you doing with your life how do you look yourself in the mirror how do you look at your kids what the fuck is wrong with you people seriously rethink your decisions that have led you to this point for fuck's sake to be fair most of the DOJ guys and gals that I know left a few years ago so they're now in private practice there you go what's up what's up folks yeah um but you know it again right without belaboring the point the Epstein releases we'll see what continues to come out, but it just is yet another confirmation of what we already knew. And like I say, I would

expect there to be FOIA actions or reverse FOIA actions or whatever is going to be the one that gets them to start looking at these redactions in camera or under seal. And I would be surprised if in the next couple of years we don't see more activity on this redaction stuff. Yeah. And And, you know, while it is commendable that Roe Kana and Thomas Massey have taken the lead in Congress to push for disclosure, it's also worth pointing out that there's still a great deal of spectacle around their activities as well, right? like both of these guys are potential 2028 presidential nominees and their whole charade of talking about they're going to introduce articles of impeachment against clan bondi like they didn't do it it's kind of bullshit no you're right and it's it goes back to the it goes back to our sort of one of our overarching themes it's like there is no tomorrow there is no yesterday it's just

the present and so these motherfuckers on any given day can say whatever the fuck they want to say that's convenient to them in that moment to signal that they are the good guys or they are the bad guys or they are the Christians or they are the, you know, social justice movement or whatever and not do a goddamn thing about it, not make any sort of affirmative steps to actually take some action on it other than just say, okay, this is what we're going to do. And then tomorrow comes around and they say, all right this is what we're going to do and then the next day and the next day meanwhile the conditions of people continue to get worse prices continue to go up wages continue to stay stagnant and we are

just stuck doing what scrolling on our phones flipping the flipping the tube so to speak eating our cheeseburgers here in the american empire and another day goes by nothing else happens and we we are basically on this cycle of rinse and repeat for, I don't know, God, how many years now. Yeah, exactly. You know, when the bar is set at raping kids and directly covering up child rape, well, yeah, the bar is set. You can't, you can't be morally satisfied with yourself for clearing that fucking bar. I'm sorry.

You've got to set that bar a little bit higher than that. When the conundrum is like, well, we can't really pursue this because some of our guys are on that list too. When that's the situation, I think you really got to start thinking about some other, start thinking about looking to some other leaders. Because these ones, they are, they're didlers. They're no different than P. Diddy. That's right. And I think that brings us to the third act of this episode, which, you know, really revolves around the question of who is still bought in to this criminal enterprise like who is out there with eyes wide open jumping headlong into the maw of this beast to try and form a part of this collective just satanic machination

to corral americans into an eternal burger fed concentration camp and I think that we see a hint of that demographic there at America Fest. In Arizona. Phoenix, Arizona, I think, right? I had no idea. I had no idea what America Fest was. Was this the inaugural? This couldn't have been the first one. No, I don't think so. I think they've been doing it for a while. But it was the first one with TPA USA's brand new CEO, Erica Kirk. Oh, yeah. And ever since Charlie died

You know, now that he's dead I think he's become so much more of a sympathetic character to me Just based on the ways That his wife is just utterly disrespecting him And his organization Like Charlie Kirkby turning in his grave Yeah, it's flashes of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar

Really We come here not to praise Caesar but to bury him. Hell yeah. And it is like, it's just a play because if you read anything out there right now, basically the feedback in the news is that TPSA always had a girl problem.

It was largely an organization that attracted white, Gen Z Christian guys. And to be sure, there were other ethnicities and other religions and other genders and sexes that would go into the TP USA umbrella but largely a white guy's game and I think they were looking at this Erica Kirk switchout as a way to attract the ladies and it's not it's not going so well because well it certainly can't go so well if the message is the same right like this trad wife you know message of stay at a

home, do what your husband says, raise the kids. Doesn't really work, I think, if your CEO is a girl boss. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty amazing to see. I mean, the bit has kind of been done to death that the W.W.E. aesthetics of the besequined Erica entering to fireworks

on the stage with this whole spectacular number. And she's done it now for however many weeks and months has been since the fatal event. That is like

imagine just continuously repeating that act as though it was an off off broadway traveling production of fucking cats right you know yeah when i was watching the america like the reels on amerifest i was thinking like what in the fucking judy gemstones is this bullshit where she's she's like you could see her behind the scenes right behind the curtain where she's like putting her face on and like very much preparing for a show and then when she's getting on stage she's like trying to be this sympathetic character, this widow that's lost, you know, everything. And it falls flat.

At least for me, seems very contrived, comes off as very contrived, her ability to sort of on a dime go from like crying to laughing and then literally has like the same four or five things that she says to anyone about Christ and about like about Christ and about forgiveness and about making, you know, she's heard it all, she's seen it all and about. the values that her husband instilled, and it's like not even actually talking about what Charlie Kirk actually did, but this idea of Charlie Kirk, it's pretty nuts. Yeah. I mean, I think you and any human being with an actual soul that can see through the really like millimeter thick veneer of sincerity, right? Like, I don't think that you can look at her performance and take away that this is a person who's deeply affected on an emotional level by anything. It's real theatrics.

It is WWE. It is exactly as we've kind of been laying out throughout the entire podcast project, this real. existence within the spectacle with no roots on the ground of planet earth it is pure spectacle it is the integrated spectacle that debord so meticulously described especially in the comments that we've quoted from so many times and it's like um again the acceptance of the invitation to inhabit that realm of pure spectacle where one can profit, one is invited to take a share of the prophets if only you leave your humanity at the door, right? Before you enter this level of existence where you're assuming not only like the baseline lies that all imperial subjects have to pretend are true,

as we navigate daily life in the imperial core like that say you know for example to compare it to i was listening earlier to an npr broadcast about trump's war in venezuela which repeated so many lies like baseline imperialist lies about why the venezuelan people would impose american intervention because they're oppressed and repressed by their government and they're too scared to speak out against American intervention. Okay, fucking bullshit NPR. Like, there's that level of accepting Imperious lies. And then there's the level of like Jesus Christ is actually personally

playing countries like chess pieces on some cosmic board and is guiding the country and now J.D. Vance is standing up at America Fest and saying America is and always has been a Christian nation. Like what the fuck is the implication of that besides just flying in the face of the actual founding fathers that these people pretend to give so much of a shit about their fucking slave-owning rapist thoughts that they were also you know very much not religious zealots like this is a rewriting of history from long long ago that these people are engaging in and creating a bubble that could only be fairly described as a cult to move forward with this dastardly dastardly agenda whose adherence

will believe literally any lie that they're told with zero critical analysis. It's pretty scary to watch, but it's also fucking hilarious. Yeah, it's what I always say, right? At least it's funny. What's really funny is the circular firing squad that's taken shape within the tent of, no pun intended, I guess, of TP USA, the no pun intended part. of course, if you haven't seen it, they also wheeled out a exact replica of the tent where Charlie was assassinated. Yeah. Which like, good God. It reminds me of the lyric of KRS One, the great rapper

in the song, you know that the truth where he says, if Jesus Christ had been shot to death with no respect we would all be wearing little guns around our neck yeah these fuckers i mean there's no depths to which their depravity will not plunge and anybody that listens to us and thinks oh they're being disrespectful of the memory of charlie kirk first of all i mean objectively a vile racist misogynist guy absolutely doesn't mean that he deserved to get killed absolutely but Like, if you care about respecting his memory and respecting the dead and not, like, doing tap dances on his grave, nobody's tap dancing harder and louder than his fucking widow.

Like, that shit is just this sick disrespect. Absolutely. We are not fans of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk very much not a friend of the pod, but we can take a moment and just. laugh at the disrespect he's getting, right, from his own wife. And the tent is a great point. I mean, I can't think of anything more goche.

I can't think of anything more macabre than having the widow sit under the tent, prove me wrong, and start fielding questions. And then, of course, like, it doesn't play out, like, how Charlie would do it, where, like, people would actually come and challenge him. She's just talking about, like, her vitamin C regime. and like God and the you know and her faith and like her her Botox treatments and it's like man if I was Charlie Kirk I would be so fucking pissed like 12 years 15 years of my life I actually gave my life for this thing and now my wife is up there talking about her beauty regime and like not actually

engaging in any of the things that I wanted to engage in it was instead like watering this message down to this utter, utter nonsense. And it's like, you know, for me, where I stand, it's like we are in the epilogue of TPUSA. I can't see this organization coming back from this. Like two, three, maybe five years down the line, I would be surprised if it has the juice that it had a couple years ago. Yeah.

Before we get into our hopeful visions for the future, yeah, you're totally right, though. I mean, even the platforming of Nikki Minaj on her sort of apology tour to try to get her rapist husband of federal pardon from Donald Trump. Right? Like, oh, that's a good angle. I was just thinking she got paid to be there. I think it's probably both. Like, she's been doing a lot of this Christian bullshit.

like, you know, a few weeks ago I saw that she was saying, talking about how Christians are being persecuted in Nigeria and... Yep, yep, yep, that's it. And Trump loves that shit, right? Whenever Christians are being persecuted, he's there. Yeah, any excuse, honestly, to deploy special forces of the branches of the U.S. military to Africa. Deploy them special forces to get that Big Mac. Yeah, get that Big Mac.

And hey, Nigeria, also oil-producing country, never could have enough control over the reserves of the world. So if Nikki Minaj can help to do that, then let her into that fold as well, even as she seeks that sweet, sweet pardon for her sex offender husband. And it's funny, too, because, you know, Charlie Kirk in his lifetime was explicitly, like, hating on Nicki Minaj. This is like... Yep. Yeah, totally. This is the thing.

It's like, this is like utter disrespect for your dead husband because he's on camera saying, like, I don't think that Nikki Minaj and I don't think that Cardi B and I don't think these rappers are good role models for young girls. Yeah. And, you know, appropriately there's, as I kind of alluded to before, this circular firing squad that has taken shape around the legacy of Charlie Kirk. And I think that plays into what you were predicting, Dick, about the inevitable decline of this organization. you know, of course, barring any major, let's say, a national crisis, a Pearl Harbor, as Jim Angleton, of course, says, a 9-11 of sorts that could unite the warring factions. But as it is now, you've got kind of Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, kind of J.D. Vance, I guess, and the administration. folks on one side really boosting Israel and promoting the need to support Israel. You know, Cash Patel recently, I think, said Americans need to wake up and support Israel.

And, no, wake up and prioritize Israel, which is hilarious. And then on the other side, of course, you've got your Tuck Kerr-Carlson's, your Megan Kelly's, your Steve Bannons, who are taken straight aim, not to mention Candice Owens, of course, the Queen of the Talmud herself, at the pro-Israel side of the divide, and, you know, really coming at it from not a humanitarian perspective, but an authentically anti-Semitic Nazi perspective and one can only hope that they draw as much blood from one another as possible in their fight to the death rhetorically speaking rhetorically speaking we should be clear for the listener don't go mistaking that these are all these people are all enemies they are not right these

are all people who are i like to think of them as different heads on the hydra yeah they're all I mean, they may be nipping and biting each other, but they all stand together. They all fall together in my book. They are all serving a purpose for the powers that be on the extreme right. And even in the center these days. Oh, for sure. Yeah, it's K-FAB, right? It is, again, WWE, it's wrestling.

Totally. It's this week the big bad is Candace Owens. Next week, the big bad is Ben Shapiro. And, you know, the crowds, booze and cheers are direct. by the people illuminating the fucking signs. And our listenership, of course, is above and beyond that childish, childish spectacle. And one can only, you know, wait and see where it goes. But regardless, you know, to point out the insincerity of both sides, the

evil of the aims of both sides. You know, I recently did an episode with Brother Isaac on Coexist Inc., where we talked again about this issue of the quote-unquote Jewish question as anti-Semitism rears its head on the extreme right, you know, really taking and trying to absorb the very legitimate ire and rage directed against the state of Israel and direct that rather than against the powers that be, rather than against the ruling class, to direct it against the amorphous Jews of the world, right, in this kind of 19th century conspiratorial framework reminiscent of the protocols of the elders of Zion that could very well give rise to new political formations down the line if we do see something like a Tucker, Marjorie Taylor Green

2028 presidential ticket or something like that. But, you know, like you said, Dick, I think that's kind of unlikely. I think that they're really all still playing for the same team at bottom. And we just got to look real askance at anything they say given their history of mendacity and their utter and permanent refusal to confront the truth of who runs the government, who runs the world. It's not the Jews. It's not the Freemasons. It's not the Soros cabal. It is the ruling class, the owners of capital. You know, Jeffrey Epstein, after all, was integrated with many, many, many powerful people who span, as you said, the political spectrum from Democrat to Republican and who have their mark

from the Clintons all the way to the director of the forthcoming Melania film, Brett Ratner. Yeah. Although, you know what? This is one of those instances. Gotta separate the art from the artist because, you know, growing up,

it's a big fan of Rush Hour. That's my, that's my, political issue, and I'm glad Trump has taken it on, too, is I want to see the next rush hour movie before I die. Well, this is the thing, right? I mean, Brett Ratner's production company, I think, was even involved in backing the Paul Thomas Anderson directed adaptation of Pinchon's inherent vice. So, you know, it's all the same pot. It's all just one big slush fund. Yeah. Whereas you can and should boycott Israel. attempting to boycott anything made by a evil person,

that's going to leave you feeling pretty alone and isolated, unfortunately, given the garbage can that we all swim around in. Well, what do you say? Should we give our closing thoughts here and wrap this one up, like so many presents under the tree? The last time we were on air, I was a little low because we were heading towards the darkest night of the year, and that's now behind us, listener. We are with every day getting towards the light even more. So I am very much looking forward to that, very much looking forward to the forthcoming spring that will no doubt be so nice.

I want to go back to this idea of, like, what's next and what, what's going to happen for this, this landscape of our leaders? Like, will we get this, uh, Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Unity ticket? I'm not sure. If I had to call it right now, I would say, like, very much seems like J.D. Vance is going to be their guy. In fact, TPUSA said that they're, you know, they're endorsing him if he decides to run. So, uh, I think he's their guy. I don't know if J.D.'s got the juice would be really crazy to see like a unity ticket of like J.D. Vance and Gavin Newsom

or some shit. That would be incredibly powerful, but I don't think that's going to happen. I think the pubs, I think they're probably toast because they got no juice. Trump with every day is very much weakening. His suits

are looking bigger and baggier on him every day. His skin is looking blotchier and more made up every day. And, you know, his dad did have early, was it Alzheimer's, a dementia. And it came on pretty, pretty early on. I think it came on right around what, you know, the age Donald Trump is at. I think his dad was already cuckoo, as he would say. But I think for the right, honestly, if my money would be on a guy who, isn't even qualified, couldn't even be a candidate for many years. And that is, of course, Baron Trump. I think that's their next, I think that's their next guy,

and I think he's going to take on the techno-fascism to a whole other level with his crypto-brough, AI, bro, tech-brough, Nazi shit. Yeah, first crypto-trillionaire, Baron Trump. I just want to say, as I always do, Folks, keep your loved ones close. Go out and talk to other people in real life. Get offline. Stop going on to the Reddit and the message boards.

Go to the actual message boards in your neighborhood. Go to the community center in your neighborhood. Go to the coffee shop. Go and just have a conversation with someone who you might not otherwise have a conversation with and check in with them. And sort of break this alienation. this isolation, this day-to-day grind that we all find ourselves in plugged into these devices where we are, I think, terrified of the idea of meeting people in person.

I know that me telling you all this on a podcast that you're probably listening to on your phones or your devices, I know it's probably not as strong as a message as I could have if I was doing it in person, but we are where we are. and take what you can and I'll give what I can and what I'm telling you is is be good to each other love each other

respect each other hell yeah I mean I'll just echo everything you just said you know I think it's important to not take too much comfort

in the ridiculous clownishness of the powers that be of their criminality although you should certainly be empowered by their lack of any sort of a claim to any sort of a moral or intellectual or ideological authority or coherence because they have none they have none but then again, the powers in the wings, right, the Democrats, you were talking about the Republicans kind of taking a downward trajectory, and you're right, J.D. has no juice, but never underestimate the Democrats' power to lose. Yeah, the negative juice. And beyond that, you know, never forget

that if they win, it's not really going to improve things in any material way because it will never, never. And mark my words when I say the word, the Democrats will never dislocate the hierarchical distribution of power between the classes. They are a ruling class party. They are controlled at an institutional level by billionaires who pull the strings. They are not capable as an institutional matter of betraying their very owners and controllers. It will not happen. And therefore, you know, it is incumbent upon perhaps the listeners of this podcast, certainly people of goodwill throughout the land to actually imagine and not only imagine but create the alternative structures that will displace the ruling class atop this horrific pyramid in which we are all trapped.

You know, it's not going to happen without us. And in fact, I dare say that the types of insights, that we all share while we're not the only ones that have them and i don't think that you know forthright archaeology well not to toot our own horn too much or you know get high on the horse it you know i think that we are on the right track in terms of our analysis and diagnosis of the ills that are infecting our body politic you know know we're not the only ones there's a lot of good people out there that are doing this work you know to the extent that any of our listeners are engaged in political organizing i think it's

important to not only sort of put forward a generic program but to put forward a historically informed politics that is attuned to the proclivities of the elites to infiltrate disrupt and destroy from within any movement or formation that has the potential to challenge the status quo, right? We are up against a very formidable, a very powerful and rich enemy that controls not only the levers of power, but also the distribution of information, the internet, the media, but with mainstream culture yeah culture surveillance ideology they got it all you're plugged in and at their mercy it's never before been as bad as it is today you talk about this all the time don it like the jeff bezos and elon musks of the world they put to shame the william randolph hursts the oil barons

the trusts of the early 20th century. The power that is so concentrated today, I mean, these guys, the barons of the early 20th century, in their wildest dreams they couldn't imagine. Exactly. And what does that leave us with? It leaves us with the truth. It leaves us with the burning and eternal flame

of the human spirit that shines through, you know, we like to think. shines through what we're putting out in this podcast. I mean, as we say all the time, we're two guys. We love to do this. Like, we enjoy studying these topics. We enjoy talking about them with each other. We enjoy hearing from you, meeting you in real life, and bringing this message and sharing the knowledge that we both have ourselves and that we can build collectively with this community that has begun to form and you know we have all of that you know that human spirit it burns through great art it burns through great music you know we see now these tech

billionaire oligarchic freaks they can't compete with that any longer and so they're just flooding the stream with shit and i don't think you know, this is perhaps my last naive insight about the human spirit that I really don't think that anybody, except for somebody who's been fucking punched in the head as many times as Joe Rogan, could like and truly appreciate that slop garbage produced by robotic clankers, right? There's something about humans. just had a conversation so this is anecdotal folks take it or leave it but had a conversation with my niece who is a teenager in high school in america and according to her her and all her classmates

don't engage in the ai slot because it's so bad and maybe it's anecdotal but it leads me to think like what if this a i slot bullshit what if this is what actually does it in like no one's interested in it because it's so bad. Yeah. Yeah, and that's across the board. That's across the board, right? The AI slop is sort of the cultural expression of this broad, overt criminality of accumulation that we're seeing everywhere. I mean, each one of the issues that we've talked about in this episode is its own analog in some respects to the AI slop phenomenon because it's, you know, you know, you know blatantly inhuman it's being shoved down our throats nobody asked for it and it's being sold

as kind of a replacement for common sense and logic and maybe again maybe it's naive but it's really all that i think we the conscious and aware have to live for is preserving that inherent intrinsic human value that you know these fucking shitheads that pretend to be somehow religious or whatever that go around parading about human dignity while they're putting fireworks off you know to make money off of somebody's assassination like they are so transparently false in their ways that you just have got to hope and in my life you know going out in the real world just kicking off conversations with good people you know and every locality's got to have someplace where you can find somebody to talk to you know and if not find another locality

there are good people everywhere right and you you really do have to kind of and find it to feel it and once you do feel it you want to feel it even more you know this is comradeship this is solidarity we're bringing it back for 2026 motherfuckers so get on board because this fourth rike archaeology train we're not digging until we hit the molten fucking core of this shit and then volcanoes start to pop off left and fucking right and burn the evil doers wherever they may be. Merry Christmas. It's like when the conquistadors came into the Americas

and they were trying to convert everyone. I can't remember who it was. I think it was in the Aztec Empire. But it was like one of these guys, they were basically set up for execution and they were given like one last chance. They were like, will you convert to? Christianity or suffer internal

damnation in hell your only path to heaven to the kingdom of heaven is Christianity and this native he said well is heaven just going to be a bunch of these white Christian guys because if that's the case I don't want any part of that heaven you could find me in hell

yes yes sir well dick wherever we go I know we're going to go there together, buddy. And I'll be right there with you, pal. Happy holidays, folks. We're so glad you tuned in. Take care of yourselves this holiday season. Whatever you're celebrating. I note that Ramadan is coming up.

It is not right now, but for my folks out there, you know, we got the big show coming up in a couple months now. So for everyone else, happy holidays. And until next time, I'm Dick. I'm Don. Saying farewell. And keep digging. heart in this irisham Armagedian time Folks you know what time it is, it is time Thank you so much to all of our research assistant and doctoral candidates.

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