Fourth Reich Archaeology - #095 - Cabinet of Horrors

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

This week, we are taking a break from She Harvey Oswald as we prepare to launch the second half of that series-within-a-series focused on its namesake–Spooky Sara Jane Moore–very soon. Meanwhile, ...we are coming in hot with a fun, cathartic rib-session on Trump’s cabinet of horrors. As “professionals” practicing law, we often find ourselves conversing with liberal-minded folks who are plenty cynical and horrified by the corruption and idiocy of the second Trump administration, but who nevertheless go about their business “respecting institutions” and, by extension, the people on whom those institutions confer authority. People may consider Trump and his fawning pack of yes-men and women pathetic, disgusting, dishonest, incompetent, and so on, but nevertheless go along with the cabinet’s policy prescriptions because they are taken pursuant to the authority entrusted to them by the system of government.We say enough. In this episode, we model the disrespect we believe forms the bare-minimum prerequisite to the type of questioning of authority that is essential to breaking masses of people out of the hypnotic spell of the spectacle. Not in the Gavin Newsom / Jacob Frey / Chris Murphy “F*ck Trump” cheesy way, but in a serious way grounded in the immortal science of historical dialectical materialism. In a way that recognizes the criminality of these ghouls in the context of a bipartisan ghoulish consensus that has persisted with great help from the Democratic side of the aisle. We’d have loved to burn through the whole cabinet, but in this episode we ran out of time after roasting “Lil’ Narco” Marco, Pete “Hogsex” Hegseth, Brainworms Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard (listen through to hear her new Fourth Reich Archaeology coined nickname), and Krazy-eyes Kash Patel. It is hard to think seriously about such a cavalcade of clowns, so we hope this episode will serve as something of an exorcism to the demonic pull of passive spectatorship and inspire contagious disrespect for these utter freaks and psychos. And we hope you’ll have as much fun listening as we had making it.Patreon: Patreon.com/fourthreicharchaeology

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Starting point is 00:05:00 and the many regimes that came before it, and that it is a very bad thing. So please, please, please. Let's keep it to maybe Blue Sky and Twitter and Instagram and stay off truth social. Now, we do, as I said, we do have a very special show for you today. We are going to be doing something different.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You know, here at Fourth Reich Archaeology, we are not ones to stay in just one lane. We are not gonna be pigeon, hold by anyone. No, we are going to bring something fresh, something new, something that is much needed on a week by week basis, basically on a whim if we have to, much like we're doing today, because we see a lot of gaps in the media. And we see a lot of gaps in a lot of things that go unaddress and we want to address them because that's what it's all about, folks. That's the whole point of this independent endeavor that we're engaging in. So this episode, this week,
Starting point is 00:05:59 What we're going to do is we are going to take a look at the president's cabinet. Now, I know what you're thinking. And no, we're not going into his wardrobe or his dresser or his armwa. We're not going into his dirty laundry to take stock of his filthy, I'm sure, his shit-stained underwear. Now, that would be disgusting. We are going to do something that maybe is equally disgusting. and that is take stock of his cabinet members. Those are his executive officers, the heads of the various executive departments. I'm talking about folks like RFK Jr., folks like Marco Rubio, folks like Pete
Starting point is 00:06:41 Heggseth, these vile creatures that inhabit the president's cabinet of secretaries. And we're doing that because we here at Fourth Reich archaeology have noticed a major gap in the media market. And while some of these media outlets are certainly criticizing the officers and certainly calling out the things that they are doing, not a single one of them is taking an honest, good faith look at each of these cabinet members and asking whether they are doing, what they are supposed to be doing. That is whether they are serving the American people in a way that is in the American people's best interest or, heck, in a way that they said that they would do
Starting point is 00:07:32 or serve the American people, let alone do that analysis with a historical materialism lens. And that's where your boys come in, as always. So we're going to try and get through as many of these cabinet members as we can and are likely only going to get through a handful of them in this next hour and a half or so, or however long we go for. And we're going to focus on this question.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And that question is, really what it comes down to is whether these ghouls that populate the president's cabinet, whether they are doing what they are supposed to, whether they're doing what they said they would do, whether they're being honest with the American people, and whether, frankly, are being honest with themselves and honest with what their positions purported to be before they were members of this decrepit cabinet of horrors. And as we do this in the next hour, so we're going to try and have a little bit of fun with it. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I mean, you posed it as a question, right? You posed it in a very good faith sort of way, maybe even extending a little bit of benefit of the doubt. But come on, every single person certainly present. company, we all know there is absolutely zero what we in the legal business would call client service coming from our elected officials are popular representatives, the people whose job it is to represent and benefit the people who at least theoretically elect them into office for that very purpose. These people are all scum.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They are the lowest of the low. Elected positions are uniformly a race to the bottom. And the people that they appoint are a level below that. That's right. That's right. You've got to be a pretty down and dirty person if you're willing to kiss Donald Trump's ass on a daily basis. And these people, they are. They're just careerists, right?
Starting point is 00:09:45 They're folks that are nothing more than an empty vessel, and they want to be as close as possible to power. And they do some pretty disgusting things out in public. And as we'll see, they do some disgusting things in private as well. But I wonder, Don, how is it that we're going to attack this episode? What is our approach today? Well, as always, and we got to start with the spectacle of it all. And I think one of the reasons, as we were kind of talking about this, to slot this episode in as we finish preparations on the epic return to Shi Harvey Oswald with Sarah Jane Moore, the real Shi Harvey Oswald, which everybody, you know, in your free time, do get yourself caught up on Jerry World on its various series within series, because that shit is more. relevant than ever to just divert for a moment from the topic at hand. But the reason why I and you
Starting point is 00:10:55 decided to do this episode right now is because there's nothing that pisses me off more than seeing with my very own eyes, hearing with my very own ears, the low, low level, not just of intelligence, but of humanity that is on display from the cabinet of the president, from the most powerful, at least entitled, most powerful people in the entire country, and then go in my day job and interact with other professionals practicing law or doing whatever other professional shit that people do in this fucked up country. while pretending that there's not an utter crisis ongoing and about to get a hell of a lot worse. And the common register is, yes, things are really bad, really stupid, really crazy, but what can you do about it, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:02 And meanwhile, acting as though the dictates of these freaks of nature carry loose. legitimacy by dint of their institutional affiliation within the governmental structure. And of course, you know, if we have sucked anything out of the o'oeuvre of friend of the pod, Guy Debord, it is that the spectacle operates precisely to keep that mentality alive and well among the sectors of society that have the ability and the sufficient amount of wherewithal education, power, money, etc., to do anything about our collective situation, to keep all those people spinning their wheels, running on the treadmill, and doing absolutely nothing to change the trajectory that we are on straight to hell as the
Starting point is 00:13:12 clock ticks. And we're in the fucking fourth quarter. The time is running out. And if nothing else, the purpose of this episode is for us to model, disrespect for authority for these institutions, for the people. who grab on to the institutional power that they acquired through their appointment into their positions and to tell all of you folks, fine folks that you are, that really as a very first step, as a bare minimum, the level of disrespect must be maximized because, you know, if you sort of can, you,
Starting point is 00:14:02 infer and accept and go along with the fact that, well, I mean, you know, so-and-so may be a piece of shit, but at the end of the day, he's the secretary of whatever. That's not going to cut it anymore. Like, fuck every single one of these people. Fuck their roles. Fuck their cabinet positions. Fuck the whole round table. And-
Starting point is 00:14:30 Fuck their weird tendencies. and their weird perversions. I mean, most of these people are at this point being incredibly accused of pedophilia, of sex trafficking, of rape, of all sorts of crazy shit, and they're doing it out in the open. But I think before we go into today's episode, we would be well served by doing just a tiny bit of road mapping,
Starting point is 00:14:56 if you don't mind Don. Because for the folks that don't know, the president's cabinet, what it's intended to be is a group of advisors, a group of people that are in charge and administering the president's work, subject matter experts, if you will, in certain areas, right? You can think of transportation or of labor or of the treasury. They're people that are supposed to be the best at what they do and are able to best serve the president because they are the people who know, the people who know better in the room, the adults in the room.
Starting point is 00:15:31 so to speak. But this clown show that we've got today, I mean, what's really happening, Don? Why don't you tell us about that a little bit? Yeah, I mean, it's really just a gallery of, if anybody's ever seen the nightmarish sequel to the Wizard of Oz, return to Oz. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So there's this one character that keeps a collection of heads in a room, like in a closet. And I think of that as Trump's cabinet, that the heads of all of his cabinet ministers and other high-level political appointees are standing by to be lopped off by his presidential acts whenever it is convenient
Starting point is 00:16:22 to bring about another distraction to another disaster or debacle that he and his administration are bringing into existence. And that's another very funny thing as well, that just all of these people are so obsequious. They are such a bunch of kiss-ass yes men. And meanwhile, they know perfectly well when they sign up for these jobs
Starting point is 00:16:52 that part of the job description is, you know, if we need to humiliate you, on the national stage, if we need to air out your dirty laundry and all of the perverse, disgusting things that you do in your free time, we're absolutely going to do that if it serves the interests of the pedophile in chief. And, you know, I think that that itself is something that certainly is not a brand new phenomenon with Trump, but the level of, you know, of perversity, the uniformity of the sexual deviance of all of these cabinet secretaries, the addictions, the, I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:17:44 The depravity. As we've kind of said way back before the elections, right? Like, this is W.W.E, this is reality TV made political, you know, granted. supreme authority. And it's something that, you know, it goes way beyond. You know, Guy Debord, the Society of the Spectacle, was pointing out these observations as though they were not already obvious and evident to the spectator. We've now advanced to a point where the reality that we all observe makes the society of the spectacle at the time it was published a controversial and hard-to-grasp book, just cliche, redundant, almost, hackneyed
Starting point is 00:18:40 observations that maybe even under state the level of insanity of not only the people in charge, but the way in which they're presented through the media to their subjects, their disgusted spectators, as we all, unfortunately, are. That's exactly right. At this point, it's obvious. The board's theories are obvious to anyone. You know, anyone who hasn't read Society of the Spectacle or the Comments of the Society of the Spectacle. And if they were to pick it up today, having lived this life where it's all media all the time, baby, when it's literally just you and a screen 24-7 being fed, information, disinformation, lies, pleasures, all sorts of spectacular content at your fingertips
Starting point is 00:19:36 all the time. When it's that, anyone who then approaches Guy Debord's work, they'll just think, well, it's obvious that this is where we are. And I think with that, you know, we could continue to introduce it, but we want to have a bit of a laugh here. We want to get the knives out. We want to sharpen up that guillotine, the rhetorical guillotine, of course, because even though we don't support any act that Donald Trump takes, we do certainly await with eager anticipation the rolling of the cabinet-level heads, metaphorically speaking,
Starting point is 00:20:23 and so, without any further ado, let's get digging. Under your leadership, we are going to revitalize and make shipbuilding maritime great again. At the Trump EPA, we're going to make a problem. The honor and respect we have for each other is a reflection of you, your leadership. Thanks to your leadership.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You are overwhelmingly elected by the biggest majority. Well, Mr. President, thank you for your leadership at the border. Thanks to your fantastic leadership. The American worker is grateful. Main Street is grateful for you. Well, Mr. President, thank you very much for your leadership. And the Defense Department is proud to be a part of this task force. You sit in the Oval Office and you see these portraits of President's past.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And let's be honest, most of them have been pulled. Most of them have been placeholders. They've been people who have allowed their staff to sign executive orders with an auto pen instead of men of action. And the reason the media attacks this administration as chaotic is because the president is solving the problems the American people set about to solve. Okay, let's start with the basics. Let's start how we usually start with a little bit of a history lesson and a brief turn to
Starting point is 00:21:57 some text. So everybody, I know you are all out there and you're all listening and you have your pocket constitutions on you, the U.S. Constitution on you, as every U.S. citizen should. I know I got mine right here. And let's briefly consider the source of power that, you know, gives the president this right to have cabinet members, to have these officials that are there to assist them in executing the powers that are granted to him in the Constitution. So everybody, let's turn to Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution, which covers the powers of the President, and let's read along as I read out loud. And so Article 2, Section 2 says, the President shall be the commander-in-chief of the Army and Navy of the United States and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual
Starting point is 00:22:55 service of the United States. He may require the opinion in writing of the principal officer in each of the executive departments upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices. And there you have it. That is the portion, that portion about requiring the opinion of principal officers in these executive departments. That is the source of power that gives the president this right to have a cabinet. Now, you may have already been concluding this, but the truth is that the Constitution doesn't have any express grant, right? Doesn't really expressly say that the president is entitled to a cabinet.
Starting point is 00:23:40 He is, you know, he has this power to get opinions and writing of his principal executive officers, but there is nothing in the Constitution that says the president should have like an X number of officials sitting in his cabinet, or they have wide duties, or yada, yada, yada. So it's actually a vague beginning to this story where the Constitution doesn't really contemplate the cabinet, certainly not the cabinet in the form that we know today, but nonetheless, ever since the beginning,
Starting point is 00:24:10 ever since the presidency of George Washington, presidents have had cabinet members. Now, they started with humble beginnings, with George Washington having only four cabinet members, and among the original cabinet members, were the Secretary of State and the Attorney General and roles like that. And over time, the Cabinet has grown. And who are these Cabinet members, right?
Starting point is 00:24:35 They are the leads, the principal officers in each of these executive departments, these agencies. So you can think about the Treasury, the Department of Transportation, Department of Labor, Department of Agriculture. All of these executive departments have, you know, the Treasury. cabinet members sitting at the top as their principal officers and their title is secretary. So you know, you'll have the secretary of agriculture, the secretary of commerce, the secretary of labor, and so on and on. Now, it's funny because the cabinet sort of historically has served as this brain trust for the president. As, you know, the cabinet members, these secretaries, they're supposed to be the subject matter experts in their
Starting point is 00:25:24 field, right? So the Secretary of Labor supposedly is supposed to be the guy when it comes to labor. And so goes with the Secretary of Agriculture or Health and Human Services and on and on and on. And over the years, different presidents have relied on their cabinets in different ways. most of them using the cabinet as an opportunity to execute their powers of the Constitution in a collaborative way, in a way that seems balanced, right? Famously, Abraham Lincoln populated his cabinet with people who had conflicting opinions and conflicting ideas, and he really sought that tension. A little bit of trivia about the cabinet is that the cabinet.
Starting point is 00:26:14 is that the cabinet through the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 and in the U.S. Constitution, Amendment 25, I believe, the cabinet is in the order of succession should the president die. Of course, today, if the president were to die, the vice president takes over. But if the vice president were to die, of course, then it goes to the Speaker of the House, then the president pro tempore of the Senate. but then after that we go down the cabinet members starting with the secretary of state all the way down to the secretary of homeland security and there are over a dozen cabinet members i believe there's about 18 or or a little over 15 cabinet members and each of them is in charge like i say one of these executive agencies and historically that's been the case right these people serve as the subject matter are experts in an area. And they serve at the pleasure of the president. So for most of these cabinet positions, they have to be selected by the president and approved by the Senate,
Starting point is 00:27:27 but the president can fire them at any time. The president can get rid of any cabinet member for any reason at will, at the pleasure of the president. And that creates an interesting dynamic to say the least, historically and even more so today. And again, The point of the cabinet historically has been to serve as this brain trust, as these officers who are meant to help the president administer the executive functions. But that's not really what's been happening as of late, certainly not with this presidency. And, you know, I think the best way to go about illustrating this today is to just do a little bit of a round robin and cover some of these cabinet members. and, you know, see what they're up to because you'll see that oftentimes these cabinet members are doing exactly the opposite of what their role purports to be.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think that that is the way to do it, just dispatching with them one by one. Think just before we do that, it bears mentioning, right, that the dynamic in this particular cabinet is unique in as much as the personality of Donald Trump as president is unique, right? He is the most narcissistic, psychotic, borderline personality, dementia-addled, pedophilic pervert that perhaps has ever been president, but certainly in the memory of anybody alive today, he is a cut above the rest in terms of his depravity. And as a result of both his incompetence, his sort of iconoclastic break from tradition and his desire to be constantly at the center of everything and to make.
Starting point is 00:29:42 a world that revolves around his personality and his person, he has selected a cabinet of individuals whose main quality, the main thing above all else, above qualification, above intelligence, above ability to communicate to the public, the one quality that matters most to Donald Trump is obsequiousness to Donald Trump. Is ass-kissing is uncritical promotion of everything he does for the sole fact that he has done it. And that is inevitably going to attract people with dirty laundry in their personal lives, right? Skeletons in their closets. people who are susceptible to blackmail who can be bent and wrapped around the finger of the leader
Starting point is 00:30:44 in order to carry out his plans. Criminals, rapists, drug addicts. And some, I assume, are good people. Let's just take a beat for a moment because we've been focusing on the Republicans in the current cabinet. But I think this is a modern phenomenon. this idea that the cabinet members are the sycophants, are these people who are willing to do whatever it takes and who are willing to bend the knee to get that position, to get as close to power as they can, because it really is this modern phenomenon that it applies to both
Starting point is 00:31:22 of these parties. Because here at Fourth Reich Archaeology, we are never going to let the Democrats off. Easy. No, we will call them out for their bullshit because in a lot of ways it is their bullshit that has put us where we are today and as you were speaking don I was reminded about what happened with Joe Biden's cabinet and so this is a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about in the modern history of this phenomenon of the presidential cabinet the cabinet seats have become these political bargaining chips for the presidential candidates before they get into office to curry favor to expand their base, to maybe convince other candidates to drop out for the promise of being
Starting point is 00:32:13 able to sit in their cabinet. And the person I'm thinking of is Pete Buttigieg. And you all may recall a time when Biden was running and he was about to get his ass handed to him by none other than Bernie Sanders and almost overnight a bunch of candidates dropped out and sort of rallied behind Biden and one of those guys was Pete Buttigieg and wouldn't you know it he was rewarded with a cabinet position now I'm going to do a little Kanye moment here right I like Gaga what does she know about taking photographs I don't like Pete puttojedge what the hell does he know about transportation, right? So Joe Biden puts him as the secretary of transportation when he becomes president in 2020. And it's a position that I think he held the entire time Biden was president. And so even to this day,
Starting point is 00:33:13 now when you refer to Pete Buttigieg, the highest office he's ever held was this secretary position as the secretary of transportation. And, you know, I will bet you dollars to donuts that when Buttigieg runs in 28, he will revel in the fact that on the debate stage, people will have to refer to him as Mr. Secretary. And so I just, I say this because I want to illustrate to everybody that this idea that the cabinet is now just made up of yes, man. Well, it's been this way for quite some time. And, you know, it hasn't started with the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:33:55 To be sure, this second term of the Trump administration. Trump presidency has really dialed things up, has really ratcheted things up to a whole another level. But in modern history, these cabinet-level positions, they've really gone to these opportunistic sort of scumbags that are willing to do whatever it takes to get as close as they can to power, as close as they can to the office of the president. And I think, you know, just taking that detourges to explain that, yes, the Republican... and Trump have brought it to a whole other level. I think it was important just to point out that the Democrats are guilty of this as well. And with that out of the way, I think we should just get started. I think it's fitting to get started with one of the very first cabinet positions, the Secretary of State, which is now inhabited that position is held by Mini Marco the Narco Rubio. And you know, Don, we've talked about this off air, but Marco's been consistent. absolutely absent from the limelight the last couple of months ever since the beginning of
Starting point is 00:35:02 Operation Epic Fury. And I've pointed it out to you. You've pointed it out to me. We've sort of been talking about how weird it is that the Secretary of State hasn't really weighed in on this military operation, this illegal military operation. And wouldn't you know it just the other day, Minnie Marco reappeared? Big time. Yeah. I mean, the last time he was really in the spotlight was around the time that we had our episode with Mo Tassick. Definitely check that out on Little Narco, Marco Rubio, and the mafiacracy in the wake of the Venezuela coup that was carried out kind of quickly and without too much fanfare or certainly not enough fanfare to keep it in the public eye in the news now just a few months later. But it's
Starting point is 00:35:57 almost ancient history. It's almost forgotten other than as a point of comparison to the disastrous efforts in Iran because Venezuela, of course, and you hear many mainstream media pundits say this. You hear, for example, Tucker Carlson repeating this over and over, but the Venezuela operation, which is recognized as largely a sort of brainchild and planned. of Marco Rubio was so successful, right? They got rid of Maduro. They kidnapped him. They secreted him out of the country into a jail in New York.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And they installed what was, at least theoretically, another Bolivarian leftist replacement, who had been a confidant of Maduro's for, many years in the person of Delci Rodriguez, but who has turned out to be really a willing collaborator with the imperialists who has said very kind and nice things about President Trump and about the Americans and who certainly does not appear to be a person that is seeking the vindication of the sovereignty of the country of Venezuela, the people of Venezuela that was so forcefully undermined by that operation. But right after little Marco took that big W, like you said, he retreated into the shadows and has not been in any way, shape, or form
Starting point is 00:37:52 the face of the Iranian aggression, the aggression against Iran. Instead, that honor or dishonor, as it were, has belonged to Pete Hogsdick, or whatever the fuck his name is, the Secretary of War. And so, just this last week, we have seen Little Marco come out of the shadows for the first time in what seems like months to really declare some kind of a bizarre victory in Iran, to rewrite history, to rewrite the present, the history of the present moment, and to... Yeah, I think any chance Trump gets, including, I think, during the Easter bullshit that he was doing, he'll be like, they were two weeks away from the bomb, and now they're not.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah, of course. And, and, you know, to go back to the list of qualities about cabinet secretaries that are essential to Trump in making his selections of picking who surrounds him, mendacity certainly is top of the list there. Somebody who will shamelessly and without a grain of. compunction or remorse lie their ass off on camera continuously and then say a completely opposite lie to the lie they said the day before on the next day without batting an eye and pretending that everything is coherent and of a piece. Another quality that Marco shares with Pete is
Starting point is 00:39:46 susceptibility to addiction. I think both of these guys appear to be using substances in ways that would kill many people and certainly, you know, your household pets, including your larger dogs, the dosages that these fellows are taking of whatever it is that they are taking. Allegedly. Allegedly. But look, hey, we've all been to high school in the United States. Many of us have been to college in the United States.
Starting point is 00:40:21 We know what someone looks like when they're keyed out. There are signs. There are signs. There are signs. There are signs. Let's say their jaw is moving a little more than it should. Their tongue is moving around their mouth a little more than it should. They're sniffling.
Starting point is 00:40:40 They're fidgety. They are looking around the room. in an erratic fashion. They are speaking fast. There are signs. And these guys are putting all those signs on full display. Hell, I mean, little Marco, we ought not to forget the early, early warning signs when he took that unforgettable sip out of the minuscule bottle of water.
Starting point is 00:41:15 whilst delivering his rebuttal to, I believe it was Obama's last state of the Union, that as soon as his presidential ambitions were shown on the national stage in 2015, I think it was, well, just as quickly they were dashed by his pathetic and comical grasp of this little tiny water, bottle to cure or at least attempt to put a band-aid on his epic case of cotton mouth that prevented him from speaking normally during that address. Yeah, that post-nasal drip that that'll get you every time. And even Trump made fun of him, I think maybe we'll put the clip in here because it is truly hilarious how hard Trump was clowning on Little Marco.
Starting point is 00:42:21 When they put Marco on to refute President Obama's speech, do you remember that catastrophe? And he's like this, and we will, ah, huh, I need water. Help me. I need water. Help. And he's right. This is on live television. This total joke artist, it's Rubio. You can just see the utter lack of respect that Trump harbored towards him at that time, which obviously has not changed. Like Trump is a first impressions guy. He despises and disrespects everybody around him. He does not care a lick about a single one of these people. He might call them the smartest guy he's ever met or, you know, the next president of the United States, as it were. But he loathes them to a man, which makes the whole thing all the funnier to spectate and to consume. You know, and unfortunately, right,
Starting point is 00:44:03 that often keeps people in this sort of cycle of spectator. of just watching the show, which itself is a dead end and is toxic in many ways. And it's difficult to break out of it. So hopefully this episode is a bit of an exorcism to that. But it's also a binding, right? It's a bonding experience to share with others, with other comrades and potential comrades, the disrespect that even Trump himself has shown. for these wasteoids. And to get back to the narrative of Little Marco now, of course, he's on the one hand making this utterly incoherent case that was on full display when he took the White House podium in the absence of Caroline Levitt, the press secretary who's out on maternity leave,
Starting point is 00:45:04 of course. And so they're kind of rotating a cast of characters. to take the podium to get their profile out there, to get their rapport with the press corps up. And the Marco Rubio press conference was quite the spectacle in its own right. I mean, the guy got off all kinds of little quips and little jokes. He had the guys giggling in the gallery. It was actually disgusting to watch because this guy is a fucking genital. no cedar standing there.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And also just like a super awkward dude, right? I think one of the worst byproducts of the Trump era is that everyone around him tries to have the same sort of Riz that he so inherently possesses. And it's like these guys that are around him, J.D. Vance does this all the time. It's like they try and take on the Trump boisterous, you know, blustrous persona, and it just doesn't work for them. At all. Yeah, like Marco, one of the ways that he was doing this concretely was when some who'd call on a journalist in the gallery and you'd say, who are you with?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Which is like your classic Trump thing of, you know, making it about who's asking the question so that it deflates whatever the content of the question is. And it's so copycat. It's so hack. It's pathetic. but at least corny. The right wing media sphere was already, you know, putting this guy at the top of the 2028 ticket as a result of this one appearance that he had because he aped the boss man.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's like really crazy. Yeah. And I think now is a good time to sort of put the flag down for this like spectacle, memory, whole bullshit that's been happening with the war, with the military aggression that is Operation Epic Fury the last three months or so. So, you know, the phenomenon that is social media, that is your phone, your tablet, that is being plugged in 24-7 to the media machine, is that for three months now, all we've been seeing, I don't know about you, Don, all I've been seeing, is clips of Pete Heggseth talking about the war,
Starting point is 00:47:38 talking about how great we're doing, talking about how we are achieving all the things that we are tactically trying to achieve. Every other day, it was, we were getting some sort of braggadocious version of the guy coming on talking about destroying the Navy, destroying the bunkers, destroying all of these people, decapitating the sort of leadership in Iran.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Meeting out violence on the enemy. Right. Yeah, it's insane. Being super aggressive and, you know, every day it was that. And you were getting that from morning until night. You know, you pick up your phone and you're scrolling through whatever it is. You're scrolling through and you're seeing that nonstop. during that time i don't think i saw one clip of marco rubio and it was to me it was like is this guy
Starting point is 00:48:39 still even working for the president what's going on and it just became clear to me that he was keeping a low profile right and it wasn't until and this always happens to these motherfuckers but it wasn't until heggseth is summoned to congress right he gave that testimony to congress what was it week, maybe the week before, where he's just getting grilled about the expenditure, about the resources, the monumental resources that are needed, the unprecedented amount, unprecedented amount of money that the Department of War would need in order to continue this operation. And you can see the guy is sweating and he is totally bungling his answers and he's making all of these concessions about how much it's going to cost to keep going
Starting point is 00:49:34 and how risky it is and all of that and then just a few days later Marco Rubio pops his head says hey I'm here we're going to abandon Operation Epic Fury Operation Epic Fury is over it was we won it's yeah exactly we won that's over that's so yesterday now we're on to Project freedom. And what we're going to do is we're going to get things back to the way they were before the war. And to me, that really is like, what the fuck, man? Like, who the fuck is falling for this shit? It's so, so crazy. Like, the one thing, like, epic, epic fury, nobody knows what the goal was. First, the goal was to what, not regime change, but that was what they accomplished. And then the goal was like...
Starting point is 00:50:41 It stated goal, one of them was to support Israel in its mission to dismantle the Iranian nuclear program. Which didn't exist. Then it was, we were going to do that independently. Right. Didn't exist. Then it was, we're going to do that independently. Yeah. And now it's just everybody is on the same.
Starting point is 00:51:01 script that once again, but for Operation Epic Fury, Iran would have had a nuclear weapon, which is just like fictitious. There's nobody that says that that's true. And the person that would know a fuck of a lot better than Marco Rubio would know, Joe Kent, which by the way, fuck Joe Kent, not carrying water for the guy, but as director of the national or terrorism center, he was in the position to know, for a fact, what the threat level that Iran posed was. And in no uncertain terms, he said it was zero, zero, not even a little bit of a threat to the United States. And yet, in retaliation for the U.S.'s aggression against Iran, of course, the U.S. military capacity in the Middle East has been not going to exaggerate and say decimated,
Starting point is 00:52:08 but damaged materially in a major way that something that we talked about on this podcast from day one of this aggression, even before in our very first contra Iran episode, talking about all of the retaliatory strikes on U.S. installations in the region, which were not officially acknowledged until NBC reported on it like months after we had said it, you know, not not breaking the news, of course, but recognizing using the tools of materialist analysis, what is really going on and cutting through the lies. NBC wasn't willing to cut through the lies until they had visual confirmation all these months later, based on, to go back to what we were saying about the purpose of this episode in the first place, the willingness and insistence of all moneyed capitalist institutions from the media to the academy,
Starting point is 00:53:15 to the legal profession, to the government, and on and on, to pretend that the lies we're being told by people in power are true because they are being told by people. who have power. And that is, I mean, that is what needs, absolutely needs to have ended yesterday. That needs to be dead and buried this pretend authority and truthfulness that is lent to liars by their institutional affiliations. Anyways, go ahead, Dick. Sorry to interrupt you.
Starting point is 00:53:54 No, I think it's a good point. And I think, so I think you actually touched on this. We've talked about it before. This idea that this isn't a military aggression of the United States against Iran. It's a military aggression of the Epstein class, the so-called Epstein class against Iran. And you can tell that that's the case because what is Iran done in retaliation, in defense of their sovereignty? They have not just attacked the 16 or so U.S. military bases surrounding the region, attacked, I think, all of them and severely damaged some of them.
Starting point is 00:54:40 But they have also gone after the major machinations of the U.S. and global economy, right? They've gone after these data centers. They've gone after desalination plants in the region. They've closed off the strait of Hormuz. which is the major choke point for the export of the lifeblood of the modern economy oil. And so they've done this now to a point, and they've brought the United States in the process to its knees, right? They have utterly humiliated the United States on the world stage in the process. And so now when you see Marco Rubio giving the press conference to the giving his press conference, what is he doing?
Starting point is 00:55:36 He's basically saying, okay, Operation Epic Fury is over. Now we're going to try and get these ships out of the Strait of Hormuz through basically this ferry system, right? like getting the U.S. military to provide security services to these oil tankers to make sure that they can get through the Strait of Hormuz safely. Well, that's going to cost trillions of dollars. And that's not an exaggeration, right? And that's assuming it works at all, too, which is a big assumption. It's assuming it works at all, right? Because not only are they doing that, they're doing that under the, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:20 They're doing that while also giving out these threats, right? You have Trump going out and saying, well, we're going to do this and Iran better not attack us when we do it. It's like, we're not violating the ceasefire. We're not violating any blockade. We're doing this. And if Iran attacks us, they're the violators. It really is like, it reminds me of a elementary school classroom where you're. you have like the kid that wants to be a cop that kind of says what the rules are,
Starting point is 00:56:57 says what they're going to do if some other kid breaks the rules. And then of course, the other kids kind of do whatever they want and nothing happens. And the kid who sets the rules doesn't have any power, any authority, and the teacher doesn't give a shit. In that case, it's sad and you kind of feel bad for the little hall monitor. But in this case, it's like, that hall monitor should be shot. And I don't know if you caught the, I watched way too much of that press conference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 And there's so many moments where he just goes into this pathetic mode. That's he's clearly auditioning to Trump. in the classic style of a guy who potentially keyed out. Allegedly, you know, his lower lip is always doing some weird thing that isn't quite going along with the rest of his face. It looks a little unusual. And he came out with these lines, including but not limited to. Iran better check itself before it wrecks itself.
Starting point is 00:58:20 literally said that there was some other like 90s rap line that he was like oh i forgot what it was now but it check itself before it wrecks itself and the other thing that he said which i thought was just so hilarious is why are we doing this we're doing this because iran can't have nuclear weapon. If Iran had a nuclear weapon, they could do whatever they want, not just with the devastating casualties that a nuclear weapon could cause if it were launched, but they could control global commerce. They could close the Straits of Hormuz and make our gas prices skyrocket through the roof. And it's like, motherfucker, they don't have a nuclear weapon. And they're doing that shit right now as we speak. So it is unclear what world you are living in when you say that you are
Starting point is 00:59:27 preventing them from getting a nuclear weapon by spending a bunch of money and embarrassing yourself in the high seas while trying to prevent them from doing the thing that they're already doing. It's like such a solipsistic line of circular reasoning that because it's stated with confidence, you know, from Fox News just waving the Marco Rubio flag, this guy should be our next furor, to the mainstream liberal media that accepts him as a well-spoken alternative. alternative to the rest of this clown car full of nincompoops to emerge as the reasonable candidate for 2028. And certainly that appears to be the trajectory that he's on, notwithstanding just the vacuousness
Starting point is 01:00:33 of everything that he says on substance and stylistically, like, that he's, pathetic Gen Xer like hitting the lowest of the low bars that you could possibly set for political rhetoric. They are facing real catastrophic destruction to their economy, generational destruction to their economy, generational destruction to the wealth of their country imposed on themselves by the actions that they're taking. They should check themselves before they wreck themselves in the direction that they're going. So look, the times come for Iran to make a sensible choice.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And it's not easy for them to do that, obviously, because they have a fracture in their own leadership system. And apart from that, I mean, the top people in that government are, to say the least, you know, they're insane in the brain. And so we need to address that. Yeah, never once been cool in his life, motherfucker. And he's like DJing too, right? The 90s reference made me remember that he's also got this, like, weird thing. Like, we've already gone too far. I think we've gone too long on this motherfucker, but it's so true.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The guy is a clown. And you know what? I would say his stock is on the rise. I would say in terms of the people who are winners and losers at the moment, maybe we should do a winners and losers at the end of this. But when you're thinking about the Iran war, Rubio is a major winner because he came in, he did the Venezuela bullshit. That went into our memory hole. That went into the social media. sort of mass media 24-7 news cycle memory hole and then Pete Hegeseth came out and just totally
Starting point is 01:02:18 bungled the last 60 days or however long it's been three months of this operation epic fury and now Rubio is popping up again to basically do the cleanup and in a very passive way say that hogshead is a total fuck-up. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, the last thing that I'll say about Rubio before we move on is just be remiss to omit the Cuba lingering on the horizon coup that is in the works, but is in the most cowardly, despicable way imaginable, because of course the U.S. knows full well that the people of Cuba have been dealing with American aggression for way more than half a century at this point.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They are not about to give up the ghost of the revolution and roll over to American imperialism and are prepared to meet any invasion. And it's like, what possible pretexts could the U.S. come up with to actually actually invade and devastate and bomb and murder civilians on the island of Cuba, none, because the people of Cuba, the government of Cuba, has done nothing to the United States certainly has posed zero, zero threat since the collapse of the Soviet Union to the extent that it ever posed a threat prior to that, and was not simply posturing itself in a defensive way, again. against impending American aggression.
Starting point is 01:04:13 But the knowledge of the entire world that the U.S. has absolutely no business interfering in Cuba has delayed and prolonged the regime change goals of Rubio and the rest of the administration. And yet, you know, they continue a pace in trying to strangle the country to death to the point where it will just collapse. in on itself. Rubio is behind that. And for that, he should certainly be tried as a war criminal. You know, the sanctions against Cuba, the efforts to decimate the standard of living of the
Starting point is 01:04:57 Cuban people, to kill Cuban civilians through deprivation of electricity, of medical care, of fuel, of food, et cetera. Certainly, a crucial. cruel, sadistic, horrific war crime that deserves the strongest possible punishment. And we'll see where it goes from there. But even there, you can see that Rubio could certainly call in the military to try and get this done militarily, but is being a little bit smarter and more cruel at the same time by taking the coward's way. And everything the guy does is despicable.
Starting point is 01:05:45 He is just a alleged co-snorting piece of not even dog shit, but the shit of some of the exotic pets that his coke-dealing brother-in-law was importing and that he was cleaning out of the cages to buy himself Miami Dolphins tickets back in his teenage years. The stinkiest of those shits. Like penguin shit smells pretty bad. I don't know. Think about like the worst. Yeah. He's caca. Caca of penguino. Cacas de oso polar. But you know we haven't, I don't think we've even done this part though. So For those of you that don't know, Marco Rubio is the Secretary of State or the United States.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I don't think we've ever said that. And National Security Advisor. Remember, he is the Kissinger. And the National Security Advisor, right. And that's true. And this is the reason I'm saying this now is just to put a bow on it about how he was so conspicuously absent the last three months during the Operation Epic Fury. this is the guy that's in charge of foreign affairs he's in charge of foreign relations he is the guy
Starting point is 01:07:12 that is effectively the united states representative in the international realm right he's the equivalent of foreign minister right minister of foreign affairs or whatever many countries have so you know he was there front and center for venezuela and he has been there very vocal about cuba and to be sure he has been vocal about Iran, he's just been so dog gone absent the last three months. And I can't help but think he's doing this or he's done this to avoid the inevitable blowback. To avoid the embarrassment of, and perhaps this is the moment to transition, the guy Pete Hegseth, Pete Hogsex has incurred upon his alleged alcoholic and drug-abusing person through his conspicuous cheerleading for the war-mongering over the last now coming up on, what,
Starting point is 01:08:23 three months and some change? I guess, yeah, two months and some change, about two and a half months. Chair, I recognize the gentleman from New York, Mr. Ryan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Head wounds, heavy bleeding, and then just shrapnel all over. So folks are bleeding from their abdomen, bleeding from arms, bleeding from legs. Secretary Hague said, do you know who said that? I'm not sure I do.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It was one of our soldiers describing the devastating Iranian drone strike at Port Shueva, March 1st, and Kuwait. As you know, six of our soldiers killed, over 30 wounded. Secretary, do you know the range of the Shahed 1-36-one-way attack from approximately? It depends on the variant, but it's got serious distance. Several hundred miles. Do you know how far Port Shueva is from Iran? There's a reason why we took extreme measure of force protection, because we understood the proximity challenge. Mr. Chairman, reclaim my time.
Starting point is 01:09:29 It's well under 100 miles. before the war started, there was clear intelligence. The Shweba was high on Iran's target list. Internal analysis had said the site was indefensible from aerial attack and should not be used. Yet you sent our soldiers from the 103rd Sustainment Command there anyway. Is that true or false? True or false? Straightforward question.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Are you going to give me a chance to answer or just, I gotcha? Did you send them there or not? I always we took proactive measures from the beginning to ensure force protection and defensive posture will maximize across the theater let's talk about what defenses they had prior to the attack officers on the ground knew our troops were vulnerable in fact they requested additional force protection did they receive it wherever humanly possible force protection counter uAS was always made available they did not in fact when asked to describe the base's defense one One survivor who's come forward from the unit said, quote, I mean, I would put it in the none category from a drone defense capability, none. Secretary Hague said, those soldiers hold the truth. Those soldiers are braver than you are. I commend them. They are asking for accountability.
Starting point is 01:10:49 They deserve accountability. And I'm asking for the same, starting with you. And as I said a year ago, you need to resign immediately. I don't think we certainly won't spend as much time on Pete as we did on Marco, but he's the perfect mascot for this failed military aggression because he is literally a mascot, a brand ambassador, a clown, a jester for crusading. He's got the crusader tattoo. He wrote a book, American Crusade. He embraces the notion. A service member but didn't really do much as a service member,
Starting point is 01:11:42 not a real war fighter, as he would say, just played one on TV. And where Marco's stock is certainly on the rise, in my view, and I think we've said this already in other episodes, in previous episodes, Pete's poor Petty, piti, piti, piti, pety, pitty, his stock is plummeting. I still think fully. I don't know what the Kalshi odds are.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I don't know what the polymarket. I would bet it's like two to one at this point. But I still maintain that Hogshead, he's on his way out. I would be shocked if he's still Secretary of War come Labor Day. Oh yeah, I think it's going to be quite a bit sooner than Labor Day. Yeah, the guy is cooked. And rightfully so, right? Like he, like you said, he plays one on TV.
Starting point is 01:12:44 He plays Secretary of War on TV. You think this guy is making strategic decisions? I mean, God forbid, maybe he is, because certainly every single strategic decision that has been taken has been a disaster. And so, you know, by implication, maybe it's not so unrealistic to expect that he had a role in that. But he, as a Fox News host, as a guy who literally went on TV and flipped, kicked a skateboard into his own nut sack, threw an axe at a tuba playing high school. cooler, I think.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Like his Fox News highlight reel is a real prelude and a prologue to his public service career is as secretary because it's one unforced self-inflicted wound after another, much like all the friendly fire that has cost. I mean, we laugh, but it's our money, right? are tax dollars that pay for these extremely expensive aircraft that our allies in Kuwait are shooting down based on like intelligence that they get from us. It's like, the guy is just, he's walking. He's like the guy in the backyard just walking into one rake after another.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And he's such a fraud and such a phony that it is comical, right? Like he gets on and does this. what was it the Bible verse he does? Oh, the Pulp Fiction thing? Yeah, he just quotes Pulp Fiction. Yeah, he just quotes Palt Fiction. So it's like he's not a warfighter despite trying to play one on TV. He's not even a religious dude despite trying to play one on TV.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And basically, as far as I can tell, he isn't really able to do anything in his department other than fire people. because it seems as of late, all he's doing is firing motherfuckers that disagree with him and increasingly isolating himself within that department to the point where it's obvious that he is just putting himself in a corner. Yeah, he's in the corner, but he's not alone.
Starting point is 01:15:18 He has at least one constant companion by the name of Jack Daniels. Evan Williams, Jim Beam, Tito might be in the mix as well, just Tito. And he's got plenty of friends. Oh, and he's got that Charlie Brown, man. He's got that cocaine, cocaine, cocaine, cocaine up in his brain. That's right. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:15:47 He doesn't need to take a plane to take a skiing vacation down the double black diamond slopes of Yale Mountain. Yeah. Who is Jerry Ford's Secret Service guy? Oh yeah, Larry Boondorf. Larry Boondorf. He should have him as his Secret Service guy. The Larry Boondorf of Coke testers. Yeah, got to make sure it's not cut with Fent.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Although, honestly, you know, could be, heroes don't always wear capes. if Pete Hegseth's dealer is listening right now, allegedly. But yeah, yeah, Pete is on that real got-your-jaw clenched type shit, and that was one of the funniest things that came out of the White House correspondence dinner, whatever that was. I don't know what we want to call it. assassination attempt seems a little strong.
Starting point is 01:16:56 But whatever that was, did you see all the people posting like, this is a real warfighter. I'm so glad he was in the room. He was calm, cool, collected, head on a swivel. And it's just like, he's just like chewing through his enamel on his teeth. Yacked out of his mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:20 He's doing the jaws. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't help that he's like at Dana White's table or like Dana White is right there too. The guy's a joke. And it's like I'm not even. This isn't an exaggeration. Like he is totally alone in his department.
Starting point is 01:17:43 He is totally done. I mean the department's in total disarray. He's fired just about anyone who's got more than two brain. cells to rub together. And he surrounded himself, much like Trump, with less men, with yes men of a lesser caliber, I should say. Yeah. And of course, that's the type of person that's going to be attractive to somebody like Trump, somebody who is blindly loyal, who's not very smart, and who is willing to fall on the grenade when asked to. And, you know, whether that comes, I did see actually now the odds.
Starting point is 01:18:21 It's, you know, this is not advice of any kind to any listener at all, but it's simply reporting information that right now you can get for 32 cents by the prediction contract or whatever they call it, that he's out before September 1st. It's at 30% odds. Hell yeah. That is like, that's two to one. Hell yeah. That's a steal.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah. That's awesome. Nailed it. Yeah, everyone out there, this is not advice. We don't like to advertise Kalshi or Pollymarket or any of that. But that's free money. That's free money. The question really is like when is it going to be needed, right?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Like all these heads are sitting there in reserve for the opportune moment. And it's like, for whatever reason, it still isn't the opportune moment. Probably before the midterms, we're going to see quite a few heads rolling, to be sure. But it's a real question because nobody knows what's going to happen between now and then as to when exactly the, you know, you could think about it as one of those like thermometer things. that keeps on rising, keeps on rising, keeps on rising, until the bursting point when you got to release the steam. And that could come any day now, depending on what happens.
Starting point is 01:20:00 But it's going to happen. And maybe we just get on to the next guy by doing the same sort of common thread thing that we've been doing, and if you'll just humor me for a moment. So Rubio to Hegg Seth, common thread there, cocaine haggseth to our next guy
Starting point is 01:20:20 common thread hard body anabolic baby let's go did you say that COVID-19 was a genetically engineered bio weapon
Starting point is 01:20:37 that targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people I didn't say it deliberately targeted. I support the measles vaccine. I support the polio vaccine. I will do nothing as HHS secretary. It makes difficult or discourages people from taking either of those vaccines. Anybody who believes that on a look at the measles book you wrote saying parents have been misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease. That's not true. I don't want to take
Starting point is 01:21:08 food away from anybody. If you like a cheese, a McDonald's cheeseburger or Diet Coke, which might boss loves and you should be able to get them you know him you love them i'm talking of course about our secretary of health and human services rfk junior brain worms bobby and he i think in a lot of in a lot of ways is my favorite clown because you know there's a lot to like about him unlike these other guys You know, he's not really a nerd. True. Or a media person. You know, he doesn't come from that milieu.
Starting point is 01:21:56 And he's not into Coke. We know he's not into Coke because he's into heroin. And everybody knows that you can't be into both. Hey, hey, you know, a speedball every now and again. Right. But so RFK Jr., of course, the one of the, most long-tongued boot-lickers actually spares no moment jumps on the opportunity to give our man Trump some love and we'll do it with a straight face and we'll do it in the most unconventional
Starting point is 01:22:37 ways in just flat out just like the rest of the guy we'll flat out lie Trump will even call him out for lying in front of everybody, right? So, and this actually goes right in line with Heggseth, this idea that the administration, the current administration, I guess this dovetails nicely with the Maha movement, is this idea that is very much a part of Pete Hagseth's Department of War of the Army, is no more fatties, no more soft bodies, only hard bodies. and this is something that RFG Jr. is very passionate about, and I was watching the press conference that the administration was giving
Starting point is 01:23:22 on the reinstatement of the presidential fitness test. So he's got a bunch of kids around him, right? The presidential fitness test, of course, is something you would do in grade school, right? I think it was around when we were kids. sure actually. Oh yeah, I used to always get flexibility. Yeah. Whoa, me too. The toe reach. Yeah, the sit and reach. Holy shit. No shit. Me too, bro. That was a sit and reach champ. Yeah, that was my strongest, my strongest event. Absolutely. In the presidential fitness competition. Absolutely. I think I still hold the record
Starting point is 01:24:01 in my elementary school. Hell yeah. But so he's, so he's there. He's at the White House. He's in the oval. He is standing above Donald Trump and he goes, we have a bunch of thoroughbreds in this captain. Oh my God. I'd hate to see the breeding farm where those thoroughbreds were sired. It's just such an ugly way. It's honestly so inappropriate in front of the children, too, to say. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. And on this one, for some reason, when he said thoroughbreds, that choice of the word, that choice of language took me back to the Olivia Nuzzi sexting scandal. Is it Nuzzi?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Olivia Nuzzie. Yeah, Nuzzi or Nutsi. I don't know. Nutsi. I'm not sure how she pronounces it. Well, I see it written and I think back to Trump's neckfold. Oh, yeah. Nussi. The Nussi. And so whenever I see that, I think of that. And I just pronounce it that way. But if it's Nutsi, it's Nutsi. But this sexting scandal with...
Starting point is 01:25:20 Do you think that Bobby Brainworms thinks about Trump's Nussi? He sees that and he imagines his former, you know, lover, Olivia Nussi? Yeah, I wanted to read into the record, the text message and or the, uh, the, the message to Olivia and maybe you can listener imagine that he's talking to Trump. I mean to squeeze your cheeks to first open your mouth. I'll hold your nose as you look up at me to encourage you to swallow. Don't spill a drop. I'm a river. You're my canyon. I mean to flow throw you. I mean to subdue you and tame you, my love. Your open mouth awaiting my harvest. Drink from me, love. I'm going to shower as soon as we stop recording just for having said that out loud. The dirtiest I've ever felt. Dude, he says, my love.
Starting point is 01:26:38 The way he says my love takes me back to the Charlie Kirk assassin and his text messages to my love. You remember that? Was that Charlie Kirk's assassin? Maybe they hired RFK Jr. on spec to come up with those text messages for Tyler Robinson. My love. My love. But Tyler Robinson didn't get real dirty with it like that. No, but that to me, it sort of is a signal,
Starting point is 01:27:15 a word choice of a certain generation. And so it makes me think that there ain't no way someone much younger was talking like that. That's something a fucking 56 year old, 60 year old man says. The hold your nose thing is really disturbing. What the fuck, dude? Like that should be, you should. not be able to be a public servant if you're talking about holding somebody's nose. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Yeah. Oh, my God. This, it, trigger warning on this one. Didn't he work as a lawyer for like the friends of the rivers or something? Well, he is the river. Right. That's what I'm getting at is maybe he joined that outfit thinking that they were. Maybe he didn't realize what he was signing up for.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah. And ironically, of course, he was at least purportedly advocating so that the rivers would be free of forever chemicals and thalates and glyphosate and all of these toxic chemicals developed. Again, you know, this is Fourth Reich archaeology, so we should mention it by Nazis. And now, of course, he has co-eastern. signed the Monsanto Bayer, which is the literal, not just like metaphorical, but the literal successor to IG Farben, the Nazi chemical cartel that today exists in the form of Bayer, Monsanto, Dow, Dupont, right? Like all the demons are here. is empty and they've all merged into this mega corporation and have through the Trump administration,
Starting point is 01:29:17 you know, not to be all Democrat lib about it, but the most corrupt administration, probably of all time, pushed through their agenda to not only normalize the use of toxic glyphosate in fertilizers and in pesticides, but also to shield from civil liability the manufacturers of those chemicals, civil liability that once, as a plaintiff's environmental lawyer, brainworms bobby, was pursuing on behalf of the people that were harmed by those chemicals. So it's really like, again, it's too, easy to point out just the level of hypocrisy of horrendous, horrendous evil that these people willingly put forward into the world and press ahead with their full might every single day.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And, you know, whereas once the river, he was seeking to clean it now, you know, his microplastics and human growth hormone-filled testicles, that river of jizz that he is so poetically describing to Trump's nussie is as toxic. It's as toxic as the rivers that he has helped to pollute. Drink from me, love, because you can't drink the fresh water anymore. Like, motherfucker belongs in the chest of somebody, total recall style. You know, he should not have his own body. He should just be like maybe a little face and arms grafted on to some other being.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Like, start the reactor, quade. And somehow he's got his own podcast. My God. That is one piece of research. I will not do for this podcast. Is he the only one that's got a podcast? Because that seems intentional. Well, Stephen Miller's wife has a podcast and she invites everybody on it. Like, I think Hague Seth went on it. But in terms of the cabinet members, if he's the only one with a podcast, which if I'm not mistaken is primarily a speaking role, seems like the wrong guy to do it.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah, it's quite bizarre. It is quite bizarre. But, yeah. Yet, you know, you do have these brain damaged people who see him doing pull-ups in an airport and get some kind of turned on by that. But you raise a good point about the Monsato Bear private public partnership there. And that is that this is a classic Trumpism thing where they basically alienate a portion of their own base, right? the Maha people, the Make America Healthy Again people, the people that are backing RFK Jr., the people that got him to the national stage, the international stage that he's on today, they can't be happy with this, right? And just like the evangelicals can't be happy with some of the shit coming out, just like the Catholics can't be happy with some of the shit that's
Starting point is 01:32:51 coming out of the administration, the Maha folks can't be happy with this. And it's like, okay, how is this even working anymore? And I think, I think we have to come back to our friend, the old media memory hole, the 24-7 spectacle. These things happen and then we just forget about them. Yeah. 100%. It's, I mean, Steve Bannon minced no words when he said, what we're going to do is flood the stream so that there's too much to deal with and you can't ever pin anything down.
Starting point is 01:33:34 And if you do pin one thing down, you know, 10 other things have already advanced that beyond your control. And it's the Roy Cone, Roger Stone, sort of attack, attack, attack, make your own reality, admit nothing, move on, all of that. Right. And they have, of course, a very willing sort of co-star in the form of the Democrat leadership that plays along, that says a few little bullshit lines and then just tries to fundraise
Starting point is 01:34:14 off of whatever the latest outrage is without posing any sort of. sort of systemic challenge and on many of the most critical political questions takes the same side as the administration like when they say well we are so happy that they got rid of the ayatollah in iran right like or of course we have to support israel but all all this type of mealy-mouthed measures that are not in any way oppositional to the fascist agenda of this administration ring utterly hollow with the American people, with the electorate, with the rest of the world, to the point where they just have no legitimacy. And yet, once again, there's still the little piece of sinking wood
Starting point is 01:35:19 in the wreckage of this ship that everybody is trying to swim up to and grab onto, knowing full well that it will result in imminent death. There is no hope on that piece of flotsam. There is absolutely no future on that lifeboat because it's not a lifeboat. it is a mere scrap out there. It's not a nussie. It's just a neck fold. Let's just move on with it.
Starting point is 01:35:56 You can't make love to it. You can't do anything to it. Just leave it be. This is our grossest episode yet by quite a while. Okay. But it's true. Yeah. I mean, it is true.
Starting point is 01:36:12 We're just winging it here, folks, tonight. We're doing it live. there ain't no way we're going to get through all of these motherfuckers. I would like to get at least through a few more. So let's move on. Maybe you can take this one because I am woefully ignorant about her. But the thread here, again, it's another hard body. Another hard body, another person who people that fancy themselves on the left had lined up really uncritically behind for years.
Starting point is 01:36:46 And, you know, I guess it's quasi a RFK comment to just say, like, good greet the people who supported this guy in his presidential campaign. Like, unless you are apologizing profusely and explaining why you got that so fucking wrong, please shut the fuck up. And the same goes for Tulsi Gabbard, the day. director of national intelligence, another person who had, especially men, on quote unquote, the left, eating out of the palm of her fucking hand, perhaps because of the aforementioned hard body. But another person who is currently, there's not much to say about her other than she is ahead, she is on the wall there waiting to be plucked off at the opportune moment and we want to put the marker down, she will go when the time is right because she's not doing
Starting point is 01:37:59 shit. She was kind of brought on to bring up a left flank or like a rear guard and we've heard barely a peep. Right. And of course all of these folks, including her, talk mad shit about Trump. And so to me, it's another one of these folks, just like RFK Jr., where it's like, what are they doing? And she is someone who, in the last two years or so, two years or so, however long it's been since this guy took office, I haven't really seen much of her. And I haven't really heard about what she's up to. So it's a real, it's a real stumper for me. I do think that when heads start to roll for Iran,
Starting point is 01:38:50 I think she might be on the chopping block. The whole dynamic with her and Joe Kent has been subject of some discussion that, you know, she was kind of on the Joe Kent side of things. She was protecting this guy, Joe Kent, while he was kind of making a mess in raising questions that were uncomfortable for the administration, et cetera, et cetera. And yeah, she has not gone out in front of the spotlight either against or in favor of any of the administration's policies, really.
Starting point is 01:39:32 The one bailiwick that they've given her, which is actually hilarious, is like the election stuff that she's going and investigating like in Georgia election fraud alleged election fraud and shit and nothing is going to come of that like that is just more of a jingling keys so that the maga base can continue their notion that democrats steal elections and cheat in elections while, meanwhile, the Republican Supreme Court, not Republican, but fascist Supreme Court, guts the Voting Rights Act happened a week ago in the Louisiana versus Calais decision. I'm not going to get into that right now. Maybe we'll do a down-by-law on voting rights someday.
Starting point is 01:40:30 A whole can of worm, certainly, but it's just one of these. other sort of ironic, spectacular gambits that they have undertaken to insinuate that the real problem with American electoral democracy is that Democrats and especially minorities, right, black people, immigrants in particular, are cheating, are stealing elections, are using my, you know, the, the Democrat Jewish Soros Cabal is instrumentalizing blacks and immigrants to steal elections, to vote illegally, to manipulate the local ballots and whatever, while the integrity of elections to the extent there ever was any or could be any, which there, I think you,
Starting point is 01:41:37 would agree, Dick, of course, feel free to chime in if you don't, but in my view, there's no integrity to an election that's for sale. There just can't be. It's stupid to even think that you could have a fee free and fair election when the success of any given candidate is dependent upon their ability to curry favor in a capitalist media that is profit-driven and based on their ability to generate massive sums of money from capitalists who. And certainly in this day and age where there's such an asymmetry to the amount of money that is coming from these corporations versus just individual voters, right? money is what makes the winner money is what creates the winner of an election and you have
Starting point is 01:42:37 everyday working class folks coming up against the wealthiest people in all of history in the entire world it is i mean it's it's it's not even a fight right and we're talking about a time nowadays where it's not just that it's like the one percenters, the 99%. It's like the 0.000, 0,000, 0,0001 percenters versus everyone else. It's like the 100 Xers versus everyone else. It's literally that Epstein class. You know, this is a term that was used by NPR quite a bit, I think, in the early days of 26, late days of 2025, to refer just to the Republic.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Republican party to Trump and his ilk. I think we here at Fourth Reich archaeology use that term, much like the Iranians use that term. The Epstein class, ladies and germs, that's the billionaire class. That is the class of folks who live without consequences. They are folks who do literally whatever they want. And by the way, most of the time, those people are doing something. some pretty disgusting things.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yeah, absolutely. And it just so happens that besides owning all this money, which they can swing to whatever candidate they choose and super PACs and what have you, they also own the media, right? Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. He owns Amazon Studios. He owns all of the sub properties underneath those corporate umbrellas. He owns A.W.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Amazon Web Service, the fucking choke point for all websites on the internet or some extreme portion of them. Elon Musk owns Twitter. I mean, we could go on and on. Yeah. Not just the media, but the social media, the software, the hardware, literally everything that is used as a method of communicating ideas, it's owned by them. It's owned by the very people that are trying to keep you in a position of complete and utter helplessness, in a position where you can do nothing other than work day in and day out to make some meager living for yourself, living paycheck by paycheck, and your only reprieve is the phone in your hand.
Starting point is 01:45:27 is the 24-7 news cycle is the immediate gratification of scrolling through 15-second videos of, I don't know what. Yeah. And by the same token, they own these political operators. You know, the same people that cultivated Tulsi Gabbard for all these years, told her that she has a future, right? This person from Hawaii who came out of a fucking cult, right? A religious cult. in Hawaii with a guru that's like an old sex pest. And she gets tapped on the shoulder and becomes a national political figure, infiltrates or rides the wave, however you view it, of Bernie Sanders 2016 campaign. And then all of a sudden, she's the director of national intelligence, all while working as an officer in the psychological operations corps of the U.S. Army,
Starting point is 01:46:34 as, you know, an actual active duty soldier the whole time. There's not a more manipulable, controllable person on the planet than somebody who's in the chain of command and who is already, like, from birth, groomed to be susceptible to mind control. Like, hello, the MK Ultra was not interested in funding studies of cults for no reason. It was for a very practical reason that they invested those funds in studying cults and how cults shape the mind. So like, yeah, Tulsi, great. We're so happy for you. We're so happy for all of the left-wing journalists that carried water for you for year after year after year, despite some of us constantly pointing out how fucked up it was that you were obsessed with radical Islamic terror and were against regime change wars, but in favor of the war.
Starting point is 01:47:48 war against terrorism. Well, how's that going for you now? What would you categorize the Iran war as? Is that a regime change war? Well, they killed the leader of the country, but at the same time, it was on the pretext of stopping terrorism. So it's both, it's neither, it's whatever you want it to be. That's what the spectacle is and what it does. And the availability of the availability, of a head like Tulsi's to roll whenever it needs to is such a boon to Trump. And there's another head that, in fact, the owner of that head thought he was decapitated a few times. Well, before we go on to him, I think you misunderstood Tulsi when she said radical Islamic terror. That's her surfer mentality coming out.
Starting point is 01:48:42 She meant that as a good thing. She meant radical Islamic terror. We should do a little bit of that terror. We need to be doing what they're doing. Let's terrorize the world in this radical way. I think that's where we've, you know, she's, Tulsi's maybe a bit misunderstood. Okay, so I'm going to drop a Tulsi. Tulsi, if you're listening, you can take this or you can leave it, but this is the catchphrase that I think could encapsulate.
Starting point is 01:49:14 you know, your next phase after you get shit-canned by Trump, okay? Ready for it? For your rad Islamic terror. Aloha Akbar, baby. Aloha Akbar. Let's go. Hell yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Let's close it out. Let's close it out with a man who embodies all of the things that we, or at least, aspires to embody all of the things we've been talking about, all of the vices. Now, he doesn't really measure up to any of these other cabinet secretaries, all these cabinet members, because he's not a cabinet member, right? He is the director of the FBI, at least for now, Cash Patel. And the guy is your classic like peewee wants to be cool trying to get in trying to get in with the cool kids guy where he is he's drinking and but it just doesn't work out for him right he is not able to pull it off like hog said is able to pull it off and he's trying and he's trying to bro down
Starting point is 01:50:32 with the hard bodies right he's famously like a hockey fanatic or whatever but he doesn't have that hard body. He's a dweeb, right? He's a dweeb. Hey, but he does, but he does have, you know, the, um, hot 26 year old country music sensation, a girlfriend who is definitely not a Mossad honeypot. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Allegedly not. I don't know if any of our listeners are familiar. with the Diary of a Wimpy Kid book series. But I think Cash Patel, he kind of reminds me of like a grown-up version of Fregley, the spastic hyperactive character in the wimpy kid books. Totally. He's just trying. He's trying his hardest to fit in.
Starting point is 01:51:29 He's doing everything. You know, he's also giving a, he definitely has the streak of pedophilia in it, but he's not that great. Did you know he was like a junior. league hockey coach in the DC area before he sort of took on the the role of FBI director like a few years back. I didn't know that but somehow it's not surprising. Yeah, he's a hockey fan and for, I mean, I don't think he had any kids playing in these leagues when he was doing it. But he was coaching them. He was coaching them and if you were paying attention back then, you would see a taste
Starting point is 01:52:07 of what was to come because this motherfucker was taking flights from D.C. to Philadelphia. I don't know if everybody realizes how close D.C. is to Philadelphia. But this guy on the hockey teams dime, and these are just like, these are like youth league hockey teams, he would fly himself to tournaments. And he carried that tradition on. So it's illegal to be an aviation enthusiast. now. And he carries that, he carries that tradition now to his role as the director of the FBI by just gallivanting around the world, drinking to excess, and having a raucous and rompice good time,
Starting point is 01:52:54 right? That's basically what the FBI director is supposed to do, is it not? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's truly one of the, one of the, one of the spectrums. spectacles within the larger spectacle that is the most shocking whenever you zoom in on it for a second like this stuff with going after the journalist that wrote the article to try to figure out who leaked to her and you know taking her stuff raiding her house like this heavy-handed shit it would make Hoover blush for fuck's sake like jay edgar was doing shit like that on the sly. He at least took the pains to sneak into people's houses to steal their shit or, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:47 to compromise them or their loved ones in order to extract the actionable information. Like this guy's a fucking bull in a china shop, clearly desperate to not get shit canned, knowing full well that he inevitably, inevitably will. And it's, again, it's like you can't look away from it because it's like a burning building. But at the same time, it's like, can we just not pretend that the Federal Bureau of Investigation is operating with anything like a confinement to the rule of law or an advancement of justice or the prosecution of evidence? of actual criminals rather than the political opponents of the administration
Starting point is 01:54:43 like any pretense that there's any legitimacy to any fucking thing that they're doing is itself a criminal counterproductive ought to be just doused before it's voiced yeah I mean just to take a step back
Starting point is 01:55:02 and think about all the things we've talked about today when you think about all of the authoritarian regimes of history, or at least how these regimes are characterized by the good old United States of America, like takes North Korea, for example, where the supreme leader is just fond over and everything he says is great and good and he can do everything, right? He's the most exceptional filmmaker, the most exceptional boxer, the greatest athlete, the smartest dude, the funniest guy. Well, that's what our propaganda says about him at least. Right, exactly. And that's what our propaganda says about our guy, too, at this point, right? When you have RFK Jr. standing behind the president saying, we're all thoroughbreds, the president could easily do 50 miles in a day. And not even the president buys it.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Yeah. And they all look like. Animated corpses. They're all just animated corpses. Uncanny Valley. Like, there is something wrong with every single. one of them and we only scratched the surface in this episode like when we say that these are psychopaths we are not being metaphorical we're not like not hyperbolic no not hyperbolic not by any means
Starting point is 01:56:24 trying to paint a picture we are being quite literal the psychopathy is real folks the people running the United States of America at this moment are insane. You actually prosecute these guys in the future when, you know, the dust settles and we, the people have taken power and are putting them on the fucking dock to face trial for their crimes. This is a fantasy, but let's make it be true. You give these folks a good defense lawyer and a team of psychological experts. They are going to get those people to a person declared unfit to stand trial, non-composmentis, incompetent, mentally unable to meet the standard for Cienter required for.
Starting point is 01:57:31 for the types of crimes that they're committing. For many incompetence and for some incontinence. Oh, man. Do you want to do some last thoughts? I think we should wrap it up. We're closing it on two hours. Yeah, exactly. This was going to be a quick one,
Starting point is 01:57:49 a quick hour of just talking some shit. But there is way too much shit to be spoken. Oh, I got one thing I do want to, I got one thing I do want to say before we move on from California. is when I started seeing in the headlines about how Cash Patel is just days away from getting fired, remember? I was like, I thought this guy already got fired. I thought he got fired like three months ago. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:58:18 And so did he apparently. He, like, locked himself in his office. Good Lord. What he's doing is some quiet quitting. Yeah. Yep. He is He is going to have
Starting point is 01:58:36 You know Most probably just like the rest of them Some bullshit multi multi-million dollar career Shilling crypto Or whatever the fuck You know Just by the grace of The very same obsequiousness
Starting point is 01:58:55 In this mafia state That is running the country country, you know, to bring it all the way back to Guy Debord, the mafia and the government should not be analyzed as two separate phenomena because they have merged into one thing, they're one and the same. And that even continues after an individual level, these people are out of government surface. The last thing I want to say, this is moving on from Cash Patel to a person that we didn't cover, but I just want to make sure to get it on record early, because I'm sure it is a position that many other people who are thinking clearly and
Starting point is 01:59:45 critically about reality, about the present day and the situation that we're in, will inevitably come around to. And that is that the people that we've just been discussing, right, this is the purported stable of presidential candidates for 2028 plus the unmentioned J.D. Vance. And certainly the way that people have been talking about Little Marco, he appears poised to try to leapfrog J.D. in some way. And I know it's been reported through leaks that Trump himself is favoring a Rubio presidency as successor to his own rather than J.D. And for of course good reason, J.D. is a black hole of charisma. The guy is a fucking loser, couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag, just unlikable, obviously
Starting point is 02:00:51 by his own mother, as well as everybody else who's ever met him. But nevertheless, you know, has become this homonculus lab-grown political creature by the Nazi likes of Peter Thiel and his ilk. And so, you know, there is this dilemma of what to do for 2028 when the magic that is Donald J. Trump. And you can't deny the lightning in a bottle that the guy has from. the combination of his celebrity, his sense of humor, and the iconoclasm that he brought onto the political scene way back in 2015, of which his current discourse is obviously a faint echo, far removed from the strong points that he was raising way back in the day. But, you know, what's going to happen next?
Starting point is 02:01:56 And I just want to put out the prediction here that certainly if I were these Nazi puppet masters behind the government controlling hundreds of billions of dollars in not only money, but assets, corporate assets, military industrial assets, et cetera, et cetera, and wanted the Republican Party to win, it's a whole other question whether they will in fact want the Republican Party to win simply to preside over what will doubtless be a disastrous economic crisis that is besetting the country and the world come election season 2028. But if they did want the Republican Party to win that election and to continue in power, I think the only way for that.
Starting point is 02:02:56 them to actually get that done is to install j d vans into the incumbent slot by getting rid of donald trump and if they do so in a way that inspires some sort of outrage or sympathy or empathy such as a false flag assassination or what have you even better that's just just a just about the only thing that could prop a J.D. Vance over the finish line. I think little narco Marco is likewise devoid of charisma on the nationwide scale. We've already seen him attempt to run for president and he did crash and burn spectacularly and, you know, maybe in the future, but it's just hard to imagine any of these plans that this coked out group of renegade psychos has in store could actually end well enough to run on for
Starting point is 02:04:06 nationwide election so just putting that out there i don't think it's going to happen precipitously in the near term instead like everything like whatever moves are coming down the pike it's all about timing. That's that's my last thought on the matter for today. I am going to push back on that just a bit, Don, because the one thing J.D. has got going for him that none of these other motherfuckers have going for them is that Donald cannot fire him. So he is there to the end. And I think, you know, to sort of accept the proposition that that Rubio is going to be the one that Don will sort of crown. To accept that proposition, you have to assume that Rubio is going to be around in the next two years,
Starting point is 02:05:07 that he's going to see his days through as Trump's Secretary of State. And I don't know, I feel like two years is a long time. and Donald Trump famously is a very mercurial individual and can turn on people on a dime. And sure, yeah, I think if somehow Rubio is able to play the game as a master chess player, kind of like how he's done the last three months, sort of maintain a low profile and pop up every now and again, when it seems like there's a easy bucket, so to speak. If you can do that and stay in Trump's good graces for the next two years,
Starting point is 02:05:57 I could see it. If not, I mean, it's very likely that he just goes into the column of folks who worked for Trump, worked with Trump, but now have a lot of criticisms of the guy and are critical. of the administration and are critical of the entire MAGA movement once again. And I don't know. I don't know. I don't think that JD has the juice. I do agree with you that one of the only ways that he will get the juice is if he runs as incumbent president.
Starting point is 02:06:42 But I don't know if that's going to happen either. I just don't, I don't, I don't see this Trump guy getting murked. And we will see. I mean, we will see. There might very well be shooters on both sides, you know. It could be straight up. Like we've been saying, you know, always look at the 70s, right? Always look at the factionalism behind the curtain of American politics.
Starting point is 02:07:14 And it could be that we got. like an Eric Prince shooter team on one side and a Mike Flynn shooter team on another side or you know who the fuck knows. But I think like just as he like it doesn't have to be as like dramatic as an assassination. I think with Trump's sundowning and his dementia kicking in and his loss of all his faculties sort of Joe Biden style finishing off the next two years in more. and more so in like Joe Biden or Ronald Reagan second term situation and with someone like JD who has a secure position as the vice president taking more of and taking more ownership so to speak
Starting point is 02:08:03 and maybe displaying his chops and coming off as like the competent reasonable foil to Trump's dementia I think that could be another avenue right So it wouldn't be just that it wouldn't have to be that Trump dies. It could just be that he is no longer competent, which is probably already here. And we will continue to cover all of these developments. We will update our predictions. We can at least promise that we won't be so disastrously wrong as to come on the pod and stand a politician like brainworms Bobby for national office and pretend like it never happened
Starting point is 02:08:56 or something like that, you know, we might be wrong about some of the stuff that we're saying right now, in which case, you know, I promise to you, listener, we'll own it, we'll move on, and hopefully we will not lose your trust. But at the end of the day, I don't think anything that we've said here, is out of line or not in step with the baseline analytical lens, which is, of course, historical, dialectical materialism. You just got to keep your feet on the ground and your eyes straight ahead. That is the Fourth Reich Archaeology way. And that is the methodology that we will continue, to employ on this journey with all of you are very beloved and dear, dear listeners. I am Don. I am Dick. Saying farewell. And keep on digging. Right party people, it's that time again.
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