Fourth Reich Archaeology - #113 - JewAnon w/ Bro. Isaac (Side B)

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

We are coming at you this week with Side B of Don's discussion with Brother Isaac. In this episode we reprise a theme Don and Isaac have already recorded 2 episodes on on Isaac’s podcast, Coexist, Inc. That’s right, it’s the Jewish Question. This time, rather than diving deep on the theoretical approaches that have been taken to the Jewish Question by Marxists of various stripes over the past 200 years or so, we dig into the discursive turf of 2026, where the “blame the Jews” narrative is on the rise.Don and Isaac discuss how this narrative serves as an anticommunist trojan horse, carrying the potential to merge together the reactionary politics of the likes of Tucker Carlson with people of conscience shocked and appalled by Israel’s ongoing genocide in Palestine (and Lebanon, for that matter). We call the episode “JewAnon” because–just like the QAnon narrative that posited the overrepresentation of perverted pedophiles in the upper echelons of power, while adding into the mix a whooooole bunch of batshit crazy bullshit–there is a grain of truth at the core of the most popular forms of the “blame the Jews” narrative. In other words, it IS true that Israel is engaging in daily atrocities with absolute cover from the U.S. government, and without any real consequences on the global stage, but it is not for “the benefit of the Jews” that it is doing so, or exacting global fealty in so doing. Instead, it is for the benefit of a global ruling class hell bent on developing (and testing out!!) new technologies of surveillance and mass slaughter that will absolutely “come home” to be deployed against those of us who dare oppose the Total Control sought by the techno-fascist ruling class. This one went on so long we’re breaking it up on the free feed, but you can get the whole thing on Patreon at: ⁠patreon.com/fourthreicharchaeology⁠And subscribe to Isaac’s work at: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/u6112951

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In 1945, we began to acquire information which showed that there were two wars going. His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds vendors the more easy victims of a big lie than a small one. For example, the CIA. He has a mile. He knows so long as a die. Freedom can never be secure. It usually takes a national crisis.

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This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. I am Dick, and you will be hearing from my co-host Don in just a moment. But before we get into today's episode, I just want to welcome all of our returning listeners. Thank you so much for tuning. in and I'd like to welcome everyone who is tuning in for the first time. I am going to dispense with all of the usual preliminaries that we do and get right to this very special episode, which is side B of an episode that we released last week. This one we're calling Juana. And in it we are having a discussion, or I should say Don is having a discussion with long time.

friend of the pod, Brother Isaac of Coexist Inc. the Coexist Inc. podcast that is. Now, in this episode, Don and Isaac are digging into what they are referring to as the blame the Jews narrative that is on the rise this year of our Lord, 2026. And in it, Don and Isaac discuss how this narrative really has been serving as an anti-communist Trojan horses of late, which carries the potential to merge together the reactionary far-right politics of the likes of people like Tucker Carlson, with people of conscience with people who are shocked and appalled by the ongoing genocide in Palestine and in Lebanon for that matter. And so we are calling this one Jewanon because just like the QAnon narrative that posited the overrepresentation of the perverted pedophiles in the upper echelons of power,

while adding into the mix a whole bunch of batshit crazy bullshit, there is a good. There is a grain of truth at the core of the most popular forms of the blame the jew's narrative but unfortunately for the most part it is nothing but some anti-semitic bullshit and I think rather than continue my exposition of what this episode is about I'd rather let Don and Isaac speak for themselves and so if you haven't listened to side a of this episode scrolled

down on the free feed to episode number 112 and listen to side A because this episode picks up where that episode left off. And of course, if you like what you are hearing, please do like and subscribe to this podcast and also head on over to the Coexist Inc. podcast and give that a like and subscribe as well. And without further ado, here are Don and I. Isaac discussing this blame the Jews narrative. And that's the other thing I'd like to emphasize that you and I are not attempting to do, which again is I think I don't have like a too much of a personal romantic emotional relationship with Judaism or Jews, right?

My mind feels very complicated, very fraught, my Jewish identity and my love for my quote unquote people. I don't think I have any, honestly. or at least like I'd have no preference for Jews over anybody else. And so I think that when I do push back on these obvious psychological operations, it's not, I want to believe, I mean, I hope I am because who, like, you know, subconsciously who knows what it is I'm actually doing, I am, I am not trying to absolve the Jews who are complicit in all of this, because there are many.

There are manifold Jews. And I do want to talk to you about what, I mean, how it's been for you within your, like, Jewish, quote unquote Jewish community or interacting with other Jews and trying to get them to come around the idea that Israel's not such a great place. Yeah. No, you make a great point. And I also agree with you that, like, you hear. a lot of people knee-jerk reacting to sort of any pushback on the blame the Jews narrative,

that you meet accusations of prioritizing Jewish feelings over Palestinian life or whatever. And usually this retort comes not from the far right wing, but from the left that is the same quote unquote left that says, how can you throw Tucker under the bus? How can you throw Marjorie Taylor Green under the bus when they are doing more than the Democrats to speak up for Palestinians to speak out against Israeli genocide, to speak out against the war in Iran, et cetera, et cetera. And clearly, that's not what we're doing. We are not really talking. about Jewish feelings here at all. And to, you know, take it to that personal level, because I know, I think you were not really

brought up in the synagogue, so to speak. And I was, I had a Jewish upbringing, you know, I was Bar Mitzvud, I even went to Jewish Sunday school, which is a hilarious thing because it's fake, right? Like it was just created on Sundays because that's when Christians did it. It's like Hanukkah. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. It's kind of like that.

Yeah. But I did all that shit. And for sure, the synagogue that I attended, which was a reform synagogue with, you know, ostensibly liberal in as much as they're not Orthodox Jews, you know, they eschew the extreme. elements of the gender segregation that's practiced in Orthodox Judaism and kosher optional. You know, it's a much more sort of permissive form of Judaism than Orthodox. But nevertheless, there on the Bima, on either side of the ark containing the Torah, was on one side the American flag and on the other side the Israeli flag. flag and when I would attend yeah it's it's fuck disgusting somebody should go knock that shit over

and be like so gross what would fucking the prophet ezekiel have done if he was up in here you know all these all of this veneration of the prophets that you get in Judaism right of the five books or sorry of the components of the tanach right you have the Torah and then you have these other Old Testament texts, among which are the prophets, and the prophets are continuously raging against the powers that be. And yet the Jewish institutions, to the extent that they embrace the state of Israel and this sort of censorious policy of silencing any dissent or opposition to the state of Israel, are making themselves vulnerable. to that prophetic tradition that they purport to revere.

So, you know, I would encourage anybody that attends synagogue. I do not myself. But if you see those flags up there, knock them over and then say, you know, I speak in the name of God and see what happens. That would go so hard. Film yourself doing that and send it to us and we'll post it. So, no, I was just going to put an explanation mark on it. You know, they would also, like they pass around the hat for donations in church, in synagogue, when I would attend services on the high holy days, right?

When they're making you feel guilty for all your sins and you're supposed to think about and reflect and apologize for all the people that you've wronged, a practice, which is good, generally speaking. I think that's good, right? You should try to live an accountable life and you should try to make amends with people that you hurt in your life. That is good. But what these guys do, they pass around like a little piece of paper that you write your name and you write your amount of donation to the Jewish National Fund on it or something equivalent and collect for Israel. And that is one criticism of American Jewish, of the American Jewish people that I think is very legitimate. That there is not enough Jewish resistance to Zionism, to Israeli genocide. And when people point out, I mean, again, this could be like some sort of chat GPT statistics.

So I have to dig into it further. but they give some number that said that a very small percentage. I think only 5% of synagogues in America are anti-Zionist, which anecdotally adds up to me, but I don't know the precise number. But I do think that it is the majority of Jewish institutions in America are absolutely pro-Israel. Yeah, I think that's right at the institutional level, although I do want to talk about this poll that came out very recently. Well, let's talk about the poll.

And then I'm, yeah, because I want, the anecdote that I want to get into gets into that awful Atlantic article. Okay. Yeah. So this is a poll that came out recently. It found that only 37% of American Jews now self-identify as Zionists, which is, I think, very decreased from past years. now I think only about 15% identify as either anti-Zionist or non-Zionist, with the plurality, about 48%, not identifying as any of those terms. But that in itself, I think, is a pretty big deal.

And it speaks to the weight that the term Zionist has taken on, because now in the lexicon, I think that people filling out that survey would view Zionist as carrying baggage of support for Israel for the genocide. And not only are those 15% people on side, but those 48% are people that could be persuaded to come onside and to oppose the real mobilization of Jewish institutions. for Zionism, for Israel in a way that marks a real shift compared to the past. So, you know, nothing happens overnight, but between just the shift in popular opinion and the proliferation of Jewish celebrities and, you know, not saying that we should put all of our eggs into the celebrity. discourse basket either, but it is nevertheless meaningful that you have voices out there who are

really ringing the bell to mobilize American Jewish opinion against Israel, against Zionism, and in favor of Palestinian humanity, obviously that must be and should be improved. And there is, I think, a responsibility, like even myself personally, if I I see somebody identifying very outwardly in whatever way as Jewish. You know, I think I even might look, if not askance, at least wait for them to identify as not a Zionist. I had a very funny interaction meeting a stranger recently and having this conversation. I was with a friend of mine who is, you know, from a Sephardic background,

and he was saying that he comes from a Sephardic background. That was the reason for having a weird name. And this interlocutor, this stranger, was saying, oh, so you're Jewish. And she was really insisting, like, oh, so you're Jewish, you're Jewish. Well, no, like, and he was kind of pushing back and saying, well, no, I don't really identify as Jewish. I don't practice. I don't have any attachment to Judaism. And she's like, don't worry.

Like, I'm not a Zionist or anything. It was very funny. Yeah. No, you can't have fun little things interacting with both Zionists and anti-Zionist. One of my favorite restaurants here is run by this guy who's half-Palestinian. and he had Israeli kuskos on his menu. And I was like, Amad,

what the fuck is Israeli kuskos? And he and his son got a big kick out of that. And so I think there are ways you can both signify that you're like a Jewish anti-Zionist, which I think is very helpful for people to understand. But then, you know, I do struggle. I mean, I live in Florida, so it's very old. We're not terribly Jewish on the West Coast.

That's mostly an East Coast phenomenon. But there is a powerful Jewish Federation here in Sarasota where Yoav Galant came and visited right after the ICC issued a warrant for his arrest. So that was cool that the place where I did go to synagogue has turned the JCC where I played basketball with other Jews is now a frequent host to wanted war criminals. but there had been this professor here named Uzi who was born in, I believe he was born in America, but moved to Israel when he was young with his parents and then came back. So he spent a brief amount of time there, but identifies as Israeli. And he and I would have coffee once a month,

and we would talk about Jewish stuff, but it was very rarely about Israel, because this was well before the genocide. And I would say he was a good leftist. He was a professor of anthropological archaeology. And he did really great work in Florida, excavating, and fixing up historically black cemeteries here in South Florida. So yeah, good guy, really smart, had a fun time talking. Once October 7th happened, it was our friendship tanked. And he would go to the local farmer's market and he'd wave in his rail.

flag and he would have a big billboard that said bring them home so he would emphasize the the hostages right and so he was a very out and out liberal Zionist in that regard and I remember I would ignore him at the farmer's market I was like I can't be seen with you like this like I will I would start screaming at him I imagine it would turn pretty ugly and so I asked him up for coffee and we had a civil conversation but you know there was was no reasoning with him. He was, he's beyond hope in that regard. And, uh, he would actually go on to post himself singing the Israeli national anthem at that Jewish federation that hosted Joav Galant when one of the hostages went and spoke there. And now I just see him post on

social media every once in a while. And he recently posted a Atlantic article that I, are you ready to do a little brief reading series here? Oh yeah. Let's do it. So you have you, how much of this have you read? I haven't read that much of it, but I, because I wanted, I wanted to maintain the element of surprise. Because what I did see was just, uh, it's, it's fucking terrible. Bangers every line. So it's a June 16th, or June 18th article of this year titled, the left wing case against anti-Zionism. Discrimination against Israelis, qua Israelis.

and the Zionists who appear as their proxies is a moral wrong by Adam Louis Louis Klein. And what publication, Isaac? This is for the Atlantic, the one where the, I believe the editor-in-chief served in the IDF and admitted to torturing Palestinian prisoners, is that right? Well, I don't know that he went out and said, I tortured Palestinian prisoners. But yes, Jeffrey Goldberg, the... editor-in-chief of the Atlantic

was in the idea if he was a prison guard. Really besmirching the name of Goldberg the wrestler, you know, it's a real shame. So I'll also let you chop this up as you see fit because some of it is, you know, not

necessary, but we can get to the points. But he opens up his piece. In September 1948, a prosperous Jewish businessman in Iraq, was publicly hanged in front of a cheering crowd of 12,000. The following day, close-up images of Shafik Ades' broken body ran on the front page of Iraqi newspapers

in a triumphant and gruesome spectacle that celebrated the punishment of a Zionist traitor. Iraq was losing the war that would create the state of Israel, a humiliation that challenged fantasies of Arab unity and conquest. A military tribunal accused Aides. The state determined that the execution would take place outside his mansion in a public act of humiliation. Regardless of whether it was true that Ares was a Zionist,

his murder was an act of anti-Zionist violence driven by a violent hatred of Israel and anyone associated with it. Now, Louis Klein would go on to talk about the expulsion of the 850,000 Jews from countries across the Middle East. It says, it's a story that still too often rests in silence. But even when it is told the ideology that it caused is seldom named, the displacement of so many Jews from their ancient homes becomes a kind of tit for tat,

a balancing act of victimhood against the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees who fled or were expelled during Israel's war of independence. The fact that accusations of Zionism were what legitimized anti-Jewish violence, were what legitimized anti-Jewish violence, whether during the Tripoli pogroms of 1948, 1958, 1945, 1948 and 1967. He goes on, I want to

Yeah, and all of this, of course, erasing the work of the historians, including the Israeli Zionist historian, Benny Morris, that have detailed all of the false flags that were part of this mass expulsion, mythical mass expulsion of Jews from the Middle Eastern countries in the 40s. Yes, the famous Levan affair,

also known as Operation Susana. If you have a Wikipedia page that is openly detailing a false flag and not disputing it, you know it's real. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, these are guys like, I mean, Benny Morris is basically pro-genocide, but at least is honest

about what the Israeli project is. And I believe the, the militant organization would fold into the IDF. I can't remember what it was called exactly. Was it the Irgun? Yes, the Irgun, they were the ones who were doing these false flags in Middle Eastern countries to scare Jews into leaving. And yes, they would later become the IDF. So at least there's some consistency there.

Louise Klein goes on to say How can it be that an ideology that has produced repeated acts of discrimination, dispossession, and violence now bears the mantle of progressivism in the West and has been normalized with the Democratic Party? And this is where it gets fun. Like Stalinism or the Khmer Rouge, anti-Zionism represents a wrong turn for the left. Yeah, yeah, that great leftist. Henry Kissinger and his support for the Khmer Rouge. Yes. Anti-Zionism claims to be concerned with rights of minorities, opposition to racism, and universal

justice. In truth, though, it has appropriated the language of anti-colonial liberation to justify oppression, transformed anti-racism into racist accusation, and turned hatred of Israel into a global ritual. Anti-Zionism has hijacked the left, and it did so through exploiting the left's tendency toward internationalism and its skepticism of nation states. Can you see where it's beginning to lean? It transformed Jewish people into a crime and charged that Jewish difference amounted to a

claim of supremacy, even as it demanded that a persecuted minority submit to the dominance of the majority. Yet the public reckoning with anti-Zionism still awaits its moment. What the fuck is he even talking about? I don't. And this guy gets a full, fucking column in the Atlantic. He's a PhD student, right? Like, this guy is nothing. He's just, it's just an example of how the media apparatus that is so hell bent on advancing this bullshit

Zionist line will scrape the bottom of the barrel to find fucking losers like this rube who is just a dumbass, like leaving out clear his story. historical documented facts to advance his preferred narrative and then just saying bullshit like charged that Jewish difference amounted to a claim of supremacy like again this ignores and I don't know that we have talked much about this notion of Jewish supremacy but like this it belongs to this entire racial hierarchy that racists have adopted, not only Zionist racists, but really all racists across the political spectrum

that puts Ashkenazi Jews as like the genetic prototype, like the new Aryans basically, superior IQ and whatever. And then by the same token, again using the IQ as a stand-in, puts people of color at the bottom. bottom of this racial hierarchy. So, like, yes, there is a thing called Jewish supremacy. If you listen to any interview with the settler queen, Danielo Weiss, right? Isn't that her name? Who's all over the

media as, like, the ideological figurehead of the settler movement in the West Bank? Like, they openly talk about how Jews are superior and how they have this land that was promised to them in the Bible and you even get the likes of fucking half-wits like Bill Maher echoing the same shit. And it's again, like, it's funny because it's kind of a role reversal from what Jean-Paul Sartre was describing in anti-Semite and the Jew when he said that the mediocrity of the anti-Semite compels him to scapegoat the Jew as an inferior being and now you know with what can only be described as the rise of like jewish nazis who are Zionists um they're doing the inversion of that and claiming that no in fact racial superiority does

exist but it's just the jews are on the top of the pyramid instead of on the bottom it's like so fucking perverse it's yeah how convenient you know oh Klein goes on to give us his leftist Bonifides here. I am a Jew who supports women's rights, gay rights, and trans rights, and who believes that climate change will pose a major challenge to human society. Wow, he's so brave. I can't, ooh, rue the day when it will pose a major challenge to human society. Yeah, notice he is as a leftist.

He says, nothing about class or, you know, the economy, right? No, no, no, no, no. That's not good leftism, actually. Opposing anti-Zionism is, similarly, a natural extension of my concern for truth and equality. If the Democratic Party wants to maintain an authentic commitment to human rights, it must oppose the movement that seeks the elimination of Israel

and the purging from civil society of those marked as Zionists. We're going to put golden Zs on their arms pretty soon. Okay. Get ready for this bit of historical proficiency. Decades before the creation of the state of Israel, Vladimir Lenin laid the groundwork for anti-Zionism. In his early 20th century polemics, Lenin cast Zionism, the movement to found a Jewish state,

thanks for clarifying that, like halfway through the article, as a form of bourgeois nationalism, a scheme by privileged Jews to divide the working class. I see, no, that's fucking based, right? Yes. Obviously, yeah, this, we talked about it in our first Jewish question episode, Lenin on the Jewish question. He was on the say either Jews should dissolve into the universal proletarian movement, he argued, or expect to be marked as class enemies. Quote, Jewish national culture is the slogan of rabbis and the bourgeoisie, the slogan of our enemies, he wrote.

I need to fucking send this to Dan Bilsarian. After the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, the Jewish section of the Communist Party or the Yevetskaya, Skaya, I can't, whatever, would systematically dismantle Jewish life as synagogues and the Hebrew language itself were branded as Zionist. Yes, it is true that the Soviet Union banned Hebrew, but what else did they do? They enshrined the Yiddish language. They made it clear that the Yiddish language, not the Hebrew language, is the language of the Jews. And they made it a part of the state. Well, yeah, and guess what?

nobody really spoke Hebrew back then either. That's the other thing. Oh, wow, the Soviets, the famously atheist Soviets banned the fucking Bible. Wow. Who could have thought saw that coming? Once Israel was created, the Marxist-Leninist ideology that cast Zionism as bourgeois nationalism, which he's making, you know, Lenin sound cool, right? I mean, like, what do you think?

Again, the creeping anti-Semitism. The creeping anti-communism is right here for us, right? That's all this is underneath everything. Oh, yeah. It's creepy, but it's not creeping. It's right there. It's overt. It's not subtle.

No. And this is the left-wing case. I don't think he knows what left-wing is. No, I don't think he does. And he goes on. Those are my favorite parts. Let me see if I can find another one. I don't know if there's anything else you see here.

Oh, here I've got one here, scrolling down a bit. Discussions of whether anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism obscure the fact that anti-Zionism, as it actually exists, remains genocidal in intent, demanding the erasure of a national group that is protected under international law. The genocide convention protects all national groups, including those based on shared citizenship, discriminatory. discrimination against Israelis, qua Israelis, and the Zionists who appear as their proxies is a moral wrong. Hutzpah on this motherfucker to bring up the genocide convention. And this is a guy. I spent a little bit of time just, you know, getting his sheet off of the internet before we hit record. And among his rhetorical home bases that he does in his interviews with, such prominent left-wing outlets as Quillette and the free press.

He repeatedly refers to the genocide libel when referring to the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. And he even without actually refuting any of the points just says that it's basically academic abstraction for Israeli genocide scholars like Omer Bartov to call what Israel is doing a genocide. So, I mean, just this guy has zero integrity. Like, he should put his head in the toilet when it's full of shit and flush it and see if that like baptizes him in shit and somehow purges him of all the shit that's inside his head because this is a person with shit for brains. There's really no point in, I think, reading the rest of it.

I think you found the last paragraph that I found very, both hilarious but also insulting. He at the bottom of the article says that he founded the Maas. He's the founder of Maas, which is the movement against anti-Zionism. And in that libel section on their website, this is my favorite part. He asks, what is anti-Jewish libel? Anti-Jewish libel is a web of obsessively repeated accusations designed to activate a 2,000-year-old civilizational reflex to purge Jews from society and ultimately eliminate them. You want to talk about anti-Semitism?

A 2,000-year-old civilizational reflex? So what he is doing is exactly what we need to not do here, right? Which is make it seem like anything is congenital. That Jews are not congenitally evil. The Talmud is not like an evil dog. as much as people want to portray it as such. Nor do the vast majority of Jews give a shit about or know anything about the Talmud. I wouldn't really tell you what the Talmud even looks like, man.

I don't even know. It's like a bunch of fucking books. Anyway. But to say that anti-Jewishness is a 2,000-year-old civilizational reflex dooms juice. It makes it clear that we then are like historically and rightfully

hated. So again, the contradictions you know, make you want to just blame the Jews because it's almost more simple, right? It's just easier and it's lazier just to blame the Jews.

But it would just be easier with all of these. contradictions at play like it is weird to say like a Jewish Nazi right but it's a thing like I know that it seems like an inherent contradiction right but it's not it's very possible we're we're witnessing it right now and so the contradiction of this quote-unquote guy who's doing a movement against anti-Zionism making the case being anti-Zionist or anti-Jewish is just like it It makes you want to scream.

Well, I think that he probably persuaded all of the Atlantic magazine readers and subscribers who consider themselves to be left wing. Which is to say. What happened? Was the Atlantic ever good? I mean, I feel like it used to put out an occasional article. I don't know. I'm not aware of any, but probably there are some. but usually anything I see out of there is just fucking insufferable drivel.

But it's high stakes, though. I mean, this is very funny, and it's very funny that, like, they're rolling out this fucking loser who is, I mean, gee whiz, guy. Like, whoever is pumping millions into this shit, it's like, good luck with that. It's like Haley Stevens on steroids, right? Like that absolute dog shit primary candidate that APEC farted out to run for Senate in Michigan, who just got spanked and was like clueless. They're not sending their best.

And this, again, I think goes to the stakes of why this conversation and conversations like this are still important because there's, an ever-growing desire to sheepdog people who have sympathy for Palestinians towards a posture of blaming the Jews. And you put your finger right on the pulse at the very beginning when you said, this is anti-communism, this is a new form of anti-communism. And it's not only tactically anti-communism, with censorious legislative measures reminiscent of McCarthyism, such as passing the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, right,

which includes anti-Zionism as anti-Semitism in the official governmental definition, which I believe AOC also voted in favor of, to give you a sense of just how broad the consensus really is. and how few and far between any real political opposition to this agenda is. And it also goes to the recent edition of Palestine action to the terror list, right? Designated terror list and the fuckery that they're doing with Fergie Chambers, trying to extradite him for just giving money to Palestine activists. And that's going to continue and that's going to increase.

And it's going to continue to be a pretext for rounding up our comrades and throwing them into jail and dropping charges on them and all the rest of it. And they're going to need that pretext because they know that Israel's crimes are obvious. They know that the lies are unsustainable. They know that the war, so-called war. in Iran is a disaster and they are gearing up to scapegoat on the one hand the Jews and on the other hand the communists and by communists we also include their anti-Zionists as our left-wing friend Mr. What's-as-Fuck tells us so like this shit is hitting the fan it is not a future thing. It is currently here. And all of these companies, like you said early on, right,

the K-Fabe aspect of it cannot be overlooked. The WWE wrestling showman aspect of all of this cannot be overlooked, right? Tucker Carlson is playing a role on television. Laura Lumer is playing a role on television. Ben Shapinas is playing a role on television. All of these people are characters in a drama that is there for the entertainment of the masses and to develop these themes and to funnel popular sentiment into one of two compliant camps, one being, let's say, let's, do more genocide America first, and the other being, let's bring the troops home, don't support Israel, the Jews are responsible for all the bad things, also America first, and then in between those two funnels, right, is the pitfall into the hell dungeon of McCarthyite repression that is

coming to a town or a city near you. And the K-Fabe, the wrestling component, isn't even a metaphor anymore. I was telling you that there was a fighting match, a kickboxing match between two online characters, one named King Azule, who is this Israeli fraudster who makes up the most unbelievable lies about his life, about how he killed like 10 people with his eyes closed or like like has escaped the most the most maximum security prisons and he's like he's a joke right it's a joke online that he's just this pathological liar but has started to do these sort of chest pumping competitions between him and in Muslims right there was this like Lebanese version of him it was very funny but just either day He did a kickboxing match against this Twitch streamer named the Gypsy Crusader Whose whole shtick is like he dresses like the joker and just screams the N-word at people on chat roulette and

Like throws up Nazis salutes and has swastika flags everywhere. Well, he also has a tattoo of the SS tattoo on his upper pectoral And he kicked King Azule's ass He had probably like 50 pounds on him in several inches Not that that matters, but in the end of the match, he's marching around doing Nazi salutes, people in the audience unfurled a Nazi flag and he's walking out of the arena with that Nazi Erika song or whatever it's called. With him, however, is a bald neo-Nazi who also turns out to have attempted to recruit people to fight for the Azov Battalion.

and I guess also has Jewish heritage at the same time. It's all very funny and confusing. And also very disturbing that this is entertainment, right? I don't think there's like a political analysis here on anyone's part. Having like a pathological lying Israeli influencer fight like an open streaming neo-Nazi to prove something or other. I don't know what to say. But when I saw this, I was part of it. particularly disturbed by what it portends.

For sure. Yeah. I mean, and I think we're just going to keep seeing more and more of that stuff. It's fucking entertainment. It's bread and circuses now. I don't think that there is like an actual political analysis here. But they are trying to slip in a political analysis.

I sent you that character who is big on Instagram. It's ginger theory. She's got half a million followers and does numbers. And she sits there behind a mask. and a shitty mic. And it absolutely does chat GPT level research. The video I sent you is she's talking about the congenital evil of Jewishness, which is crazy that's like, like, Meta doesn't care, right?

Mark Zuckerberg, who I guess is Jewish, doesn't care. And it's very, it would be very funny if so many people weren't sincerely watching this and liking it. But she uses the protocols of the elders of Zion to prove that Jews are evil. And then to confront anyone who might, to get ahead of anyone who might criticize her for using this debunked propaganda bullshit from Tsarist Russia, she holds up Henry Ford's the international Jew and says, but Henry Ford International, International Jew proves that the protocols are true, which is just like the most circuitous logic I've ever seen in my life. I actually think this bespeaks the AI psychosis element once again because when I was watching the professor Jiang thing in real time, he's like, type in the link to this article and see if there's anything else corroborating it. And probably she like typed into chat GPT, like what corroborates the protocols of the elders of Zion? And Chat GPT probably was like, Henry Ford's, the international Jew, repeats a lot of the same themes that were discussed in the protocols of the elders of Zion. It literally uses the protocols as a source.

Right. Yeah. It's like that doesn't make any, using a secondary source to as a primary source for the primary source. It's just like what the fuck is going on? This is where we're headed though. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. The dumbing down is also part of the overall agenda, right?

And it's so tied up in all of this tech stuff, which, contrary to what Professor Jiang might tell you, is not a nefarious Jewish plot, but is just this entire-ass ruling class program that has been on full display for a century at this point to make the podcast. population dumb, to flood the zone with propaganda, to divide and to conquer, and, you know, keep the attention span short so that, like you were saying, the substance, the content, actually doesn't even matter. What matters is the emotional reaction, and the emotional reaction on both sides of the Jewish question is always going to be elevated either by people that think that Jews are the beneficiaries of this privilege that they label under the banner of Jewish supremacy.

You know, everything from like the Jews control Hollywood to the notion that you can, you can, like now they're laundering the Kanye West Nazi arc and saying that it was performance art to display how there's a double standard applicable to hatred for Jews and that he wouldn't have gotten canceled if he would have said the same racist things against black people or something like that.

Like, sorry, I don't think it's that deep. I think that it's really about the cliques and the more noise, the more just bandwidth is occupied, the less it matters what is inside the sausage. It just becomes irrelevant because the noise itself, the distraction itself, and the emotional response that it creates is the substance. is the message. So what do we do then? I mean, as, I guess maybe there is something about what do we chew?

What do we do then? 30% always. I think that's one way of combating anti-Semitism. I think, I do, I guess, feel a particular kind of responsibility here. not just as an American, but as someone who at least for a couple decades identified as a Jew, right? Although that has become complicated for me. But I do feel a particular kind of responsibility here to not, again, not salvage Jews, but to recognize my Jewish complicity as made up as that might be in a way.

said, you know, I think the same way you pointed out, you know, nothing is done for American interests. I don't want to do things for Jewish interests either. That's not my interest. So what am I trying to say? I'm trying to figure out the best way to push against this. And again, not as a means of saving Jewish feelings, protecting Jewish feelings. Protecting Jewish I don't give a shit. I mean, I think one narrative that's actually effective and it's why it's been pounced on so violently by the entire pro-Zionist media apparatus is exactly what Hassan Piker is taking so much shit for saying, namely that the insistence of Zionists and of the Israeli government in associating the actions of the Israeli government. government, the genocidal and apartheid policies of the Zionist project, the association that they're insisting upon with all Jews worldwide is harmful to individual Jews, or at least potentially harmful, because it creates this heightened suspicion of all Jews that you

support the mass murder of children and civilians. that everybody has seen Israel carrying out now for almost three years. I think that that is effective among Jewish people who are still riding the fence, you know, that fall into that 48% that neither identify as Zionists or anti-Zionists. I think that's one thing. But I think for me, it's really just like insisting upon historical accuracy it sounds like it's too much to ask in this day and age and it sounds almost quaint as like a tool

because you have people out here like I am in touch with people in many different cities and I know for example one friend of mine who's a Jewish like more observantly Jewish than I am which I am not observant at all but this guy is an observant Jewish guy, very anti-Zionist, and he was telling me about this friend of his, who's another ostensibly left-wing guy,

who he basically ended the friendship because this other person was talking about how you have to embrace anybody that opposes Israel, that, you know, you have to boost Tucker, you have to work with anybody on the right, that he would even work with David Duke and the KKK, if it turned out that they were going to help the liberation of Palestine. And, you know, I think the fallacy at the heart of that is that if you pay attention to history, you know that David Duke and the KKK would never be for the liberation of Palestine.

No matter what they say, you can't always trust these malign actors. Either they are, you know, deceptive and evil like a David Duke or a Tucker Carlson, or they have shit for brains like a Marjorie Taylor Green or, you know, some of these other right-wing people. like I don't know where Candice Owens for example falls on that maybe a little bit of both but like you just have to insist on critical thinking and sorry if that makes me politically useless but I think that that's a baseline that all people should adhere to and pay very close attention to like who you're making friends with because as we look at the lessons of history, wherever the left has allied itself with forces on the right,

you know, look at Mussolini, who started out as a socialist and was bringing on board many of his comrades to the fascist movement, right? They thought that that was the way to topple the bourgeoisie. And look what happened there. and there are many such cases and, you know, just don't be stupid. Don't be ignorant. And it's not really that hard in this age of information to stick to those basic home-based principles that we laid out at the top of the hour. Yeah, I think it's nothing we haven't seen before either.

This same kind of Jews are congenitally. evil, is much like the whites are continually evil that we saw during peak woke, which I think we all kind of recognized was missing something. And that something, of course, is just class analysis. And so I don't know if that helps to consider it that way. I mean, they're literally just like substituting white supremat, Jewish supremacy for white supremacy. they're using the exact same talking points. I mean, listening to Dan Bilzerian talk about Jewish supremacy was so funny in that regard to me. I was like you literally sound like some blue-haired liberal girl from Reed College, but just saying Jewish instead of white.

Yeah. I mean, it's race essentialism, I think, is what you're saying. Like, I don't know. I think that that was even overblown and manipulated in its own. right and also funneled for a discreetly anti-communist political end in what is known as like peak woke which I don't want to get into it now we could we could do that on the next episode um talk about all of that but like today we're living in a world where fucking hakeem jeffreys the democrat house leader is having back room meetings

with fucking Jared Kushner and then staffing these ultra Zionists on key committee positions to basically grease the skids for Israel to do whatever it wants with U.S. policy in the interest of this

global ruling class that is not just Jewish it's not just Israeli it is multi-racial, multi-ethnic and united around something.

woke actually, you know? We have... Yeah. Well, just ask Alex Karp, you know. Half-Black, half-Jewish guy and CEO of Palantir, one of the key beneficiaries of all of this and key mouthpieces for it. And then you have AOC running fucking interference for Hakeem Jeffries and basically excusing him, giving him a pass for doing that.

So like the hole that we're in is so deep that it's hard to like prescribe anything as a quick fix to get out of it. And I think that in fact the blame the Jews narrative is presented as sort of a fake quick fix in its own right. And it doesn't actually serve that function. Like blaming the Jews is not going to liberate Palestine. It's not going to change the makeup of the United States Congress. What's going to do that is to actually have some organization, some political education, some knowledge sharing, and a whole hell of a lot of solidarity. Agreed. Do you have any final thought?

I think we're almost at two hours now. I think we should. I think we've about covered the bases for now. I'm all Jewed out, man. I'm good. Okay. Well, Isaac, do you want to plug your stuff for the listeners? Yeah, if you want to watch me talk to Dan Bilzerian for an hour about Jews.

If you haven't had enough Jewish talk, you can go over to my... Patreon and check out my interview there. I am tomorrow morning I'm actually doing my haunted 9-11 tour of Sarasota I've rented a trolley I know it'll be come and gone by the time anyone listens to this but I will have a video where we are visiting all the old haunts of the alleged hijackers and also where Bush was Bush was at my school on 9-11 reading the pet goat Not my pet goat, the pet goat, which I found a copy of. So, yeah, come check it out.

I usually don't talk about that much Jewish stuff, which is why it's such a pleasure to hash it out with a fellow chosen one. Yes, it is always a pleasure. You should subscribe to co-existing on Patreon. Isaac is always getting a very interesting variety of guests and spanning a whole range of topics, many of which you probably won't find anywhere else. I will say that the eclecticism of the subject matter that you cover is a big draw of your show. I listen to it regularly.

I really enjoy it. And I always like talking to you. Thank you so much again for coming on. Thank you. It's always fun being on other people's shows. And thank you for the, that's the best description of my show anyone's given so far. So I'm going to steal that when anyone asks what the hell it is my show is. Because I never have a, I never keep a consistent answer. I've always just said I like to talk to people who are smarter than me.

But Dan Balsarian was the one exception to the rule there. Yeah, Randy Fine, too. Well, he didn't make it to the show. And I'm actually trying to get Kyle Rittenhouse on the podcast now because he just moved to my neighborhood. Okay. There's not much there. I'm definitely smarter than Kyle Rittenhouse. I can say that with confidence.

I think you're smarter than other of your guests, too, but I won't say to. Okay. We'll let the listener guess. Yeah. Okay. Well, in any event, Isaac, on behalf of Isaac, the brother, and on behalf of Dick, I am Don. saying farewell and keep on digging.