Fourth Reich Archaeology - Choose Your Hitler 2: Führer Furor

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Join us as we take a final dusting to the artifact-in-the-making that is the 2024 presidential election. Will we make an endorsement? Not likely. Will we have a few laughs? Definitely.We’ve subjected ourselves to hours upon hours of presidential slop. We went ears deep in the trough for you, listener. We’ll give a few highlights from Kamala’s performance on the Breakfast Club, Trump on Rogan, JD Vance on Tim Dillon. Seriously, we had to bathe with a steel loofah after listening to all this shit. Not unexpectedly, we conclude - while not begrudging anyone’s right to fear-vote democrat - that the two candidates for Hitler are pretty much a wash. Both pledge to continue committing genocide. Both pledge to criminalize immigration and build a wall. Both pledge to protect crypto assets (lol). It’s a race to the bottom and we ask aloud whether these parties are really trying to lose.In an election where the party of Dick Cheney is calling the OTHER guy fascist, you know you’re in the Fourth Reich. Hope this helps you keep your distance from the madness as the barbarians approach both sides of the gates.

Colonialism or imperialism, as the slave system of the West is called, is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. So it's one huge complex or combine. Either you are with us. where you were with the terrorists. And this international power structure is used to suppress the masses of dark-skinned people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources.

We found no evidence of a conspiracy, foreign or domestic, the Warren Commission of science. I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. In 1945, we began to require information, which showed that there were two wars going on. His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders the more easy victims of a big lie than a small one. For example, we're the CIA. He has a mouse.

He knows so long as to die. Freedom can never be secure. It usually takes a national crisis. Freedom can never be secure. insecure. Pearl Harbor. A lot of killers. You get a lot of killers.

Why you think our country's so innocent? This is not going to see. I am. This is a model. This is coming. This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. I'm Dick.

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This week, we're taking another break from Jerry World before we launch into our Warren Commission miniseries, The Warren Commission Decided. We decided that it's a good time to take a pause from our favorite Lynch King and check back in to the election cycle for one last chat before the big game. Listeners may recall that we did release one election themed episode way back, seems like, forever ago, but it was really only about two months ago at the end of August. And in that episode, we discussed the choice between two different. brands of American imperial fascism that are on the menu this November.

And one thing that I thought was extremely funny was that we used in that episode The Undertaker Music from the WWE. And I don't know if you saw this, Dick, but the other day, Trump released a campaign video with The Undertaker and Kane. Hey everyone, November 5th, election meeting. Choice is yours. You can go with President Trump, Kane, and The Undertaker,

or you can take Kamala Harris, Dave Batista, and Tim Walls. Choose wisely. The nation depends on. And that should be an easy choice. And then, like, some days after that, he came onto the stage at one of his rallies in...

you know, his dark MAGA hat, and the music of The Undertaker was playing in the background. And then I saw even a little bit after that one of these Q accounts on Twitter that was posting that, you know, that this is some great symbolic gesture of, a forthcoming reckoning under Trump, where Trump is somehow the undertaker who's going to bury all of the deep state pedophiles and the cabal and everything with his dark maga magic. And I just thought that, you know, once again, unfortunately, events have proven our analysis of this sorry spectacle correct you know people talk about intersectionality a lot these days and as you were talking i couldn't think of even more perfect intersection of the elon musk dark maga right wing sort of silicon valley bro with the w

middle of the country yeah like truck truck guys yeah truck guys exactly cyber truck guys and and Ford truck yeah I guess that's it right there the intersection of truck guys showing up to Trump rallies and browing out because this is really what it's about right like just finding the right mix of white man in America to get behind the Trump flag including, you know, the California, the California racist, right? Oh, yeah. Never discount California racism. Who's that dude who's the motherfucker on Twitter you're always going on about?

Oh, Ian Carroll. Ian Carroll. Yeah, there you go. Fuck that guy. I don't know anything about him, really, but I've seen enough to make my decision. Anywho, we're back for another election episode to make our final analysis, our final analyses and predictions before the big day, to situate again this moment in the bigger picture of the Fourth Reich. Either way you cut it, at least half the country is going to lose their fucking minds on November 5th. So we want you to have the requisite presence of mind to not get caught up in the pandemonium.

That's right. That's right. You know, keep the pitchfork in the garage. Do not storm the capital. It's just a waste of your time and energy. Just chill, you know, because whatever happens, the empire will go on its path of destruction around the world, no matter if the person at the purported helm of the ship of state is a bleach, blonde, spray tan, game show host, piece of shit,

or a zanned out, drunk, incompetent, feckless, directionless piece of shit. So take your pick, flip a coin, whatever, the fact of the matter is there is going to be an election. And at the time that this episode is released, you know, it's very much within the realm of possibility that events will supersede whatever we say here today. Because we are recording this episode on Sunday, October 27th. and it's anybody's guess what will happen between now and when we get to your ears. Yeah, maybe what we should do, Don, is put out a fourth Reich archaeology bingo card. Oh, that's good. Of events that could happen, right?

Fourth assassination attempt at Trump's life or, you know. I've always got Joe Biden dying on my bingo card. you know that oh of course i'm on biden watch 24-7 it's like my personal moo dang got him on the cam watch him wake up eat ice cream go back to sleep wander around yeah well let's let's talk a little bit about what the picture looks like now and what our dear dear listeners may look out for to sift through the bullshit and make their conversations with people that actually care about this shit

a little bit less obnoxious. In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey. Boutain in my brains and a mouth to cut the chuggy with the plastic eye balls. Spray paint the vegetables, dog food skulls with the beef cake pantios. Yeah, and I think a good way to do that is to just check in with each candidate and each side and see what's going on, right? And I think for no other reason than she's top of mind.

Let's talk about Kamala, that go-getter, cosmopolitan auntie that many of us know who is drunk on champagne and Xanax in power. Yeah. And I don't know about you all, but I don't want that kind of. person running the country. One's got a weasel and others got a flag One's on the pole shut the other in the bag With the rebut shows And the cocaine nose jug

The thing's crap But the reason she comes top of mind Is it's almost like I don't know Don if you ever watch The cartoons The Boondocks Aaron McGruder He did a comic strip

And it later became a cartoon A series which is very good And I'm sure the listener has watched it If not you definitely should because the show is hilarious. I'm voting for Obama because he's going to lower my taxes. Actually, he has promised to raise taxes at your income level. Well, I also support Obama because he's against corporate failouts.

That is also not true. Huh? I'm supporting Obama because he's black. And he's gonna get the troops out of Afghanistan, right? Also wrong. Then what the fuck is gonna do? But it was like, what, a couple weeks ago now, three weeks ago maybe, and I'm seeing in the news that,

Harris is losing the black vote Oh no Harris is losing black votes namely black men are drifting away from Harris and potentially to Trump And It was like I was watching an episode of the fucking boondocks man Because the next thing I know

Kamala is doing a One hour sit down with Charlaman the God Oh man Yeah, that was, that was amazing. It was like later that day I found out about it or something. Like I watched that on the news and then like two days later, or later that day I find out she's doing this interview in Detroit. And it's, I mean, so pathetic, right?

Yeah. And funnily, just like within, I don't know, days or maybe a week of the breakfast club show sniping at Jill Stein, right? The Green Party candidate who at best will take a percent of the vote if she's, I mean, outperforms expectations. and the Breakfast Club had her on basically so that, I think, Angela Rye, who... Yeah, it was a snipe, it was a hit job, classic hit job. Totally, totally. And right after that, sure enough, they have on Kamala to puff her up,

which is why, in my mind, it's not Charlemagne, the god. but Charlemagne the fraud I like that I think he's actually a good place to start what do you think his deal is he's definitely like an asset right I don't know much about Charlemagne

the fraud right but this was he's clearly on the payroll well they did they did kind of the same thing for Hillary right back in 2016 it's just one more

page out of the Hillary 2016 playbook that the Harris campaign is pulling out and it's another page that was a disaster I think I mean Hillary everybody remembers the hot sauce in my bag right charade right that she pulled on breakfast club right it's so fucking disgusting it makes me sick and here too right like I'm telling you it was like an episode of the fucking boondocks she's the breakfast club and the first thing out the gates they talk about is weed legalization and she gave a great I mean that was classic that was some classic shit that she was doing there because she was basically like I'm going to legalize weed right as president I will work on decriminalizing it because I know

exactly how those laws have been used to disproportionately impact certain populations and specifically black men he was like well you're VP right now you know what are you doing about it now because you're saying you want to legalize it now what steps did the Biden administration take to get closer to that reality and then she gives like the most and we're going to play it we'll put it in here but she's like the most bullshit answer about her how she works with the DEA on drug categorizations it's phenomenal so we had to work with the DEA and it's there's a a certain level of bureaucracy that exists in the federal government that slows things down, but essentially to bring down how weed is classified, how marijuana is classified,

to make it classified as a lesser harm. And so that took some time. There's a whole process around that, but that's the work that we have done. In addition to work that we have done writ large on criminal justice reform. He teed up an opportunity for her to just, paper over and whitewash her own record and it wouldn't be the last time that he did that in that interview right i mean that's that's the whole purpose of the whole spectacle right i mean it's almost hard to talk about because it's so repetitive at this point it just keep doing the same

shit over and over again like yeah i'm glad you brought that up because that's one of the things that he like maybe the first or second question that he asked her was now you know one thing they've been saying a lot of your press hits get criticized you know folks that you come off is very scripted they say you like to stick to your talking points and some media says you have that would be called discipline oh okay okay but go on uh vice president Harris people say you are just sticking to a script some people say you have an inability to fearlessly say who you are and what you believe I know that's not true But what do you say to that criticism?

And she gave a bullshit response there, too, saying some shit about, yes, I give the same speech in Philadelphia and in Detroit. Because people need to hear the points, the same points. Oh, my God. You just jogged my memory about it. I had kind of forgotten this, but I'm pretty sure he asks her. He's like, what do you say to the people that criticize you for giving the same response? and she's like, you're welcome. Yeah.

I would say you're welcome. I mean, listen, here's the thing. I love having conversations, which is why I'm so happy to be with you this afternoon. And the reality is that there are certain things that must be repeated to ensure that I have everyone know what I stand for and the issues that I think are at stake in this election. That's so fucked up. She's boasting about having, like, message discipline. And it's true, you know, the people who have paid to have her where she is,

and the people who are paying to try and fool whatever portion of the electorate is persuadable into voting for this one, they should thank her, I suppose, for saying what they pay her to say over and over and over again. But they really shouldn't thank her for the way in which she does it, because it is so brutally cringe. Yeah, it was cringe. But it was cringe to hear her talk about the marijuana stuff because I don't think I've heard her talk about that. It was cringe that it came up on the breakfast club the first time I think I've ever heard of her talking about it. And, you know, she's talking about weed legalization.

Put it this way, Joe Biden must be rolling in his grave. Hearing about weed legalization happening, you know? But that's just where we are with this party, right? Like, it's gotten pretty wacko between the social positions, right? Yeah, because, I mean, that's the pandering side, right? And I think that's something that we want to make a focus of this discussion, this episode, is the vast gulf between the pandering side of things and the reality side of things where if somebody were to do this, and I'm not sure if anybody has,

But if somebody were to kind of list out all of the different promises and policy positions that the Democrats purport to take in this election, what you'd basically find is a very random and a ragtag list of wishes that belong to vastly different interest groups that are like the quote unquote coalition. but the coalition is just basically mob like heads of families if you think about it that way like different corporations like oh well Kamala has the traditional military industrial complex and she has Google and she has meta in her pot in her side of the ring whereas the Republicans have teal and musk and the Israeli military contractors, they also have the Saudis, and they, like, it's just, imagine, like, the worst people in the world, and they're, like, picking sides for a middle school football game. Those are the two candidates and their sponsors, basically. And I consider the electorate, myself included, to just be kind of disgusted spectators to this whole. fair i don't feel like we have a dog in the race we lose either way right i like this idea of like lists each side has a list of stuff right like you know whatever you want to say you have guns you have the

border you have drug legalization you have whatever and then you look you look at the lists and it's like nowadays the two lists look pretty similar right like what are the platforms of the parties and then you have like the three or four things that no one's taking on which are like Like the things that I think I'm sure are top of mind for everybody. Like stop the fucking military spending. Stop the wars. Stop the fucking violence. Let's take care of the poor.

Let's get fucking health care under control. Let's get education under control. Yeah. It's like there's a bipartisan consensus on all the issues that matter. And the bipartisan consensus is the bad side of those issues. Right. Yeah, and that's where we are. And that's why nothing makes sense these days.

Yeah, I was watching the Kamala CNN Town Hall. And listener, please do appreciate the mental toll that it takes on Dick and I to subject ourselves to hours and hours of interviews and events of these candidates because I really feel much, much stupider after having spent, like, I don't know how many hours over the last few days, just listening to this stuff. Yeah. What's that movie? The movie, I think it's Harry Potter, where those dementors they come in and they suck the life out of you. Yeah. That's sort of, I want that listener to have that visualization of us with our, with our face on the screen. And it's just the

life force being drawn out of us for you, out of love. Yeah, and I certainly feel like I had the Dementor's proboscis in my cranium when I was listening to this CNN Town Hall and wanted to comment in particular on Kamala's answer to the question about immigration. And she was prompted by Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, the host of the program, to discuss whether she still believed, as she stated in, I think, 2020, that the border wall that Trump was campaigning on was a stupid idea. So he asks in no uncertain terms. Let's talk about this compromise bill, that you want to pass if you're. elected. You said that's going to be a priority. It includes $650 million in funding for the

border wall that something Republicans wanted. That was part of the compromise. Under Donald Trump, you criticized the wall more than 50 times. You called it stupid, useless, and a medieval vanity project. Is a border wall stupid? Do you still think the border wall was a stupid idea? Because now your whole immigration platform is premised on this bipartisan legislative. a.k.a. Republican legislation. And instead of saying anything critical of the wall, obviously, that would be hypocritical now that it's part of her policy, she says that actually... Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall. Trump was ineffective when it came to the wall. And that the real problem is, is that he didn't get the wall built. So remember, Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it?

come on they didn't how much of that wall did he build i think the last number i saw is about two percent and then when it came from time for him to do a photo op you know where he did it and not only did he not get the wall built but when he gave his press conference in front of the wall he posed in front of the portion that obama had built in the part of the wall that president obama built but you're agreeing to a bill that would earmarked 650 million dollars to continue building that wall. I pledge that I am going to bring forward that bipartisan bill to further strengthen and secure our border. Yes, I am. The takeaway, the main thesis here is actually the Democrats are the party of border walls. And we do it better and we don't pretend that Mexico

is going to pay for it. We are clear that Americans are going to pay for it. And yes, we will build it Because it's bipartisan. It's such a rudimentary and basic, like, attack Trump from the right advance, right? Like, the simplest attack from the right. Totally. How'd, can they talk about some border when they are the invaders? And outed, can they reform immigration? When they invaded their neighbor, America existed before Columbus.

Totally, and it's like not even the candidate herself or her surrogates, but like, this was for my people, Mexican people, the whole earth is yours, no human is illegal, come across the border, every woman and man, the U.S. is the alien, Mexico, this is your land. People who campaign for her because they perceive themselves to have a better bargaining position vis-a-vis Democrats in the advocacy space. And they will, on her behalf, say that, oh, well, you know, Trump is worse on this because Project 2025 talks about putting immigrants into camps. while they await deportation. And the thing is, is there's nothing new about that. It's just called immigration detention. It already exists.

It was enormously expanded under Obama. It was expanded further under Trump. And it did not go away under Biden. and slay them Mexican people get your education tell your little children them this is their nation

I mean when you talk about the actual rubber hitting the road on immigration policy it's very difficult to see any daylight between the two parties and meanwhile the Democrats

use the overt racism of the Republican approach as a cudgel against voters to try and force conformity. And, you know, I certainly wouldn't begrudge a person for buying into the fear because it's true that, like, yeah, Trump is very bad and they'll get theirs in a few minutes here. but from the classic like aOC crying at the fence of the immigration detention center you remember that that iconic photo oh yeah oh yeah and it's just pathetic that it's so easy to fool people through this manipulation yeah well i think we're at a point where those who whose policy positions don't line up with the democratic party at large on, say, the border. I think at this point, we're at a political climate where they are just basically those voters are saying, well, Kamala has to say that. And she's, she's saying that because it's such a close race. And there needs to be a broader coalition in this country in order for us to

beat Donald Trump. And I think it's on both sides, too, that the supporters for each candidate, like if you were to actually ask them to list out what they think that their preferred candidate stands for and will do, they'd both be so wrong on both sides because it's just fantasy. And this is what we were talking about last time. It's spectacle, right? They're just vessels for fantastical impregnation of some vision that, does not and will never exist. Right. Abstract concepts. The last thing I want to talk about for Kamala, unless you don't have anything else, we could go on to the other guy, is her whole,

what is it called? It's like the entrepreneur economy or some bullshit. Entrepreneur. The Entrepreneur Accelerator. What is it called? I don't know what exactly it's called. All I know is it definitely involves the private sector. The first time I heard about it, first time I heard her say it, I was like, is she talking about everybody getting a job? Everyone's an Uber driver or a DoorDash or we're all doing two-hour stints with Amazon delivery?

Like, what's going on here? But then she fleshes it out some more and it's even crazier, right? I think this came on in the breakfast club. My work that has been about increasing access to capital, bringing billions more dollars into our community banks, which I've done as vice president, through cooperation and partnership with some of the big banks and tech companies to get more access to capital for our entrepreneurs, for our businesses, for years. Black entrepreneurs only get 1% of venture capital funding. Of all the venture capital funding, only 1% goes to black entrepreneurs. Figuring out credit in the black community. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was actually quite patronizing and borderline racist as I was listening to that portion of it. Absolutely.

And not to mention the work that I've been doing to ensure that medical debt does not get included on your credit score because medical debt comes about, because of a medical emergency, nobody invites it upon themselves. And back to the point about history and the reality of life, we also know the real disparities around access to meaningful health care. which are more likely to result in, people facing chronic illness and in medical emergency. So my work has been and included working to get medical debt not be on your credit score so that that thing you did not invite upon yourself would not be the reason that you can't get a lease on an apartment or anything else. But it's just one of these ideas where it's like we all know for damn sure that this shit's not going to work out. Like what the fuck is she even talking about, right? Like what is she even promising people?

Right. And not only entrepreneur, but don't forget about protecting crypto assets, which apparently is something that's extremely important to black men because it features in her list of things that are going to help black men under her administration. It's such a close race that the analysts are doing their darned us to figure out what slice of the population they can tap into. so I guess like the undecided voter this time around are these crypto guys and and once again I just think about like what the scene from the VEP in real life would be behind the scenes how did securing crypto assets make it onto the list of policies that will help black men right right like imagine all of like the dan eagans and the amy brookheimer's like well we want to do we want to do uh reduction in criminal sentences oh no we can't do that because the for-profit prison lobby is going to be on our ass if we do that okay well what what can we do to help black men uh well uh how about how about uh green job conversion oh green jobs

were out five years ago get with the times okay okay what's the best we can do come on tell me give me something securing crypto assets I'm like

bingo yeah black men I'm trying to in fact by keeping the facts and stack in much me I'm packing a gack

because I'm going in jail because I ain't a book this one I look I don't sell yeah they're just in a bugger's like I'm supposed to bust Okay Well, all right, so let's...

Oh, there is one more thing that I wanted to talk about, though, before we move on. Yeah, let's do it. I mean, we got to talk about dick, dick. Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to do. So what I was going to say is, well, let's drive out of Kamala Town. And as we're driving away, we're looking in our rearview mirror, and we're seeing the whole of the Democratic Party. And it's looking a lot like the Republican Party. And in the sky we see the ghost of Donnie Rumfeld.

And he's looking down and he's saying, I like where this party's going. Yeah, I saw that one of Stanley Kubrick's daughters, the Scientologist one, provided a posthumous endorsement of Donald Trump for her father, Stanley Kubrick. Well, you know, being as my nom de plume here is Don, in honor of Don Rumsfeld, I feel like that authorizes me to make a posthumous endorsement on behalf of Donald Rumsfeld of Kamala Harris. Hell yeah. So you're looking at Kamala Town and there's signs for guns and keep the border or safe and you see all of these things that you are comfortable with, right?

Money for the war. Ukraine. Ukraine. Hello. NATO, motherfucker. And you see a billboard your buddy Dick Cheney. And you're like, fuck, this is the spot. And it's pretty ugly stuff we got, we were talking about earlier today, right?

the, um, because we should talk about Tim Walts, right? The John Stewart interview, right? Where they talk about Cheney? Oh, man. The Cheney thing, do we really have to do that? Uh, look, I, it goes broad in that. Look, Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift. No, no, no, no, no, no.

That one. Oh, the shooting? No, no, no. Having the Cheney's on board? Nah, you can't, Dick Cheney or Taylor Swift. No. Dick, we're a big tan. What country did Taylor Swift get us to invade?

No! No, we're not going to take their foreign policy decisions and discussions, you know, and implement those. We're going to take their... Promise? Yes, promise. Promise. It's a total watch job. A total laundering of the whole sideling up to Dick Cheney, a 20-minute interview,

and Stewart doesn't bring up the genocide once. and just teeing up waltz to fucking lie about the Democrats' foreign policy positions is disgraceful. So I say to John Stewart and his former colleague, Stephen Colbert, two middle fingers right in your face. Yeah. Fucking piece of shit. He's on the payroll. Oh, man, what a fucking piece of shit. Hey, man, you know, it is what it is what it is.

is totally um but this dick cheney thing is just another one of these like the slice the slice of the voter base that this matters to like who is this undecided vote who the fuck is this person uh i guess they're sitting in what like caspar wyoming yeah and they're like and they're like i don't know who i'm going to vote for and then they get the news i guess That's it, right? That's basically what they're going for. It's, what the fuck? To me, it's one more piece of evidence that the signaling that these campaigns are doing and the messaging that they are crafting is not directed at human beings. It's not directed at voters.

It's directed at bigger forces. It's directed at... I was going to say, it's not directed at voters, but other legal persons. Yes, yes. The ones that matter. The ones that matter. Come on. Hey, hey, corporations are people, too.

Absolutely. And pretty soon, I think that, you know, the United States should establish an Israeli style, we're called an alternative distribution of personhood, arrangement whereby corporate persons enjoy the status that Israeli Jews enjoy akin to that status. Oh, God. We can't play this. This is insane. And the rest of the people are, you know, playing the role of the Palestinians.

I think that, you know, that seems like where we're headed. Yeah. Citizens United was just the first step. Man, it just got really dark. I think I got a little bit of an anxiety attack. Luckily, you're at the wheel as we're driving away from Kamala Town, and I see that we're driving up to Trump City, baby. And it's so funny because I'm looking at the rearview mirror,

and then I'm looking at the scene in the windshield and I can't tell the difference. But we're getting closer. And, oh, here we are. Let's talk about Donald J. Trom. Oh, yeah. The Survivor. Yeah.

Three-time assassination attempt nominee. Well, and reminder, once again, listener, this is Sunday. So, you know, um... Could happen again. Although I do want to say it on the record, and I think it's true, Jerry Ford still holds the record for most assassinations that had happened in, uh, in a month. So, anywho, we did get a comment from a listener asking for us our take on the July 13th Trump event, whatever you want to call it.

Yeah. I don't think we want to dwell on it too much, but... No. But we should say something, right? I think before it gets... Yeah. Too late in the game, right? I mean, look, I think it's setting even aside the speculation about what was his

motivation, you know, what actually happened. setting all that aside for a second, I think one thing that we can say objectively as a statement of fact that is entirely supported by the record beyond a reasonable doubt is that Trump has grossly, grossly exaggerated the carnage that was meted out onto his person on July 13th. that's something that is beyond a doubt that he has created an image of the event that does not correspond to reality and he has invited so many people in on that lie with him and they followed willingly behind that's a fact so i'll start with with the objective fact right yeah i watched the video of what happened in butler pennsylvania about 15

50 times. I think I was one of about 8 billion people around the world who watched it. And the more I watched it, the more it struck me that everything was different after that moment. Everything. This convention is different. The nation is different. The world is different. Donald Trump is different. When he stood up after being shot in the face, bloodied and put his hand up, I thought at that moment, that was a transformation. This was no longer. a man. Well, I think that. I think it was divine intervention. But the effect that it had had on Donald Trump, he was no longer just a political party's nominee or a former president or a future president. This was the leader of a nation.

Don't get me mad. Don't tell no lie. Don't make me sad. Don't fast me to buy. Hold anything but me Because I'm a real strange shooter If you know what I mean I will do One possible scenario And this is, you know Listen, you can take it

Whether it's in jest or what But So the whole thing was staged We've seen in the WWE In professional restaurants the old razor blade trick where the wrestler has like a little razor blade and they cut themselves to show the blood you know Trump was in the WWE he did a little bit of wrestling he knows the culture he could uh maybe have set something up everybody hits the deck

everyone covers him he does a little cut on his ear gets up yeah fist in the air I mean the fist in the air thing is like way too perfect right that's like I don't know. And they get, you know, they give him the pictures that he gets. He gets the cameras for a second, and then they take him away. So that's just one potential scenario, right? Yeah. It just seems like pretty easy to have, to be able to execute something like that.

Right, right. I mean, I do not think that the deep state was trying to kill Trump at all. I think that that is. the conclusion that if this was something that was set up, I think that it was set up with the intent of making it look as though the deep state wants to kill Trump. Yeah, so here's another, this is the other scenario, exactly what you're saying, right? So this is the other scenario is these motherfuckers are everywhere all the time, right? There's probably someone trying to kill the president or a presidential, you know, a politician or a

presidential. It's like every day of the fucking week. And maybe on this day, this guy with his, whatever it was, was a sniper rifle or an assault rifle with the sniper scope. He just gets through, right?

They just let him through. And then they just keep eyes on him and wait for him to, to just barely make a move and then take him out. Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. Oh, to match, it's very interesting. When I got shot, it wasn't surreal.

That should have been surreal. When I was laying on the ground, I knew exactly what was going on. I knew exactly where I was hit. They were saying you were hit all over the place because it was so much blood from the ear. You would know that better than it would. When they get the ear torn up. Years bleed a lot.

Yeah. Anyway, so, and I was thinking the other day, when that happened, I really knew where I was. I knew exactly what happened. I said I wasn't hit anywhere else. Do you even have a scar on your ear? You got anything on there? I do.

What am I say? What we got there? So, right over here. Oh, it's a tiny little mark. It zicked right there. It's, it healed up pretty fucking good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's not like some of the wrestlers, some of the UFC fighters.

No. One of the pieces that I listened to for this was J.D. Vance on Tim Dylan podcast, which there's just nothing more grading than two. Peter Thiel acolytes oh my god just stroking each other's egos and like playing like the

elder millennial cool guys nauseating but one of the things that Vance said in that interview was basically implying that like the Biden Harris administration

was refusing using security to Trump and was somehow rendering Trump more vulnerable to these types of attacks. And that's utter bullshit because it's on paper that the police were photographing crooks in position like 30 minutes before he fired a single shot. He's like sitting on the roof. I don't think it's beyond the pale that it is just a random thing that like it is just a nutjob guy who got through very, very bad security between the locals and the Secret Service. That's definitely, and it might even be the most likely scenario. Yeah. But if it's not that, then I think it's like you've got some.

kind of Roger Stone, Eric Prince type of people. Yeah. I think Crooks, by all indications, was a real pro-Trump guy. And it's actually not that dissimilar from one of the scenarios that's floated in the Don DeLillow book, Libra, about the JFK assassination of sending a guy to miss on purpose, to hit somebody who's not the target on purpose. And I do think, like, in that case, hitting Corey Comparator and giving some reality to the event, giving some weight to it, could feature into a plan, if there were a plan. But again, like, it's not something I'm trying to, like, stake a real claim one way or the other. But if there were a plan, I think it would be a right-wing sort of private sector plan to boost Trump as a survivor.

Right. But I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Like, likewise, I have no fucking idea what, you know, it could have been any number of things. And I don't really know. And quite frankly, don't really care. What I do care about is how epically.

This guy has been able to, in real time, create a mythology around the assassination. Yes. How quickly and effectively he was able to use it and grow it with every turn. I think last time we had an election special, you talked about the reverse Mandela effect. The other thing I care about that really warmed my heart was how quickly the American public started to question the reality of the situation and, like, whether it's a conspiracy. I think that's really funny and amazing. And it's such a great illustration of where we are as a society when you think about,

you know, the reaction to the JFK assassination. Speaking of which, what do you think about the JFK assassination as an election issue? I know we've seen Trump say that he was going to release the files now that RFK Jr. is part of his team. That's the reason. That's like, was that their deal? Honestly, like, I feel like RFK Jr. probably pretty easy to manipulate if you're Donald's. seriously he's got like one sixth of a brain left right yeah um i honestly it's an issue i care about let's get to the bottom once and for all let's get to the bottom of jfk you know yeah

although at least with jfk i am of the view that there's never going to be like a smoking gun document. I mean, I think you could declassify everything and it will get you closer to being able to make out a case. But there's already like enough evidence in the record to prove really beyond any doubt that the Warren Commission was a cover up and that there's more to the story. Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh, I'm thinking like, I'm thinking like my man Trump just gets in office and does a executive order and says, yeah, we did JFK. That's like an official statement of the United States executive. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he could take the Roger Stone view. It was LBJ, and therefore,

we're going to repeal the Civil Rights Act. Yeah. I think we should talk just a little bit. I'm getting a little uneasy. and Trump and what did I call it? Trump City. It's a pretty fucked up place. Yeah, the benzos have worn off and the amphetamines are kicking in. Andphetamines are

coming up from the sewer the sewer line, the steam from the sewer line. Let's talk about our man Rogan. Oh, man. What I liked about how he did Rogan was how he was just going. It was like totally off the grid shit, right? Like he's he's like I won that election easy he's talking about 2016 yeah that's the shit I love it was

like he it was no holds bar you're talking about thousands of thousands of murderers coming across the board oh yeah yeah incredible stuff and this is why like with the whole assassination thing I feel like Trump uses that as an invitation to whoever his interlocutor is to enter into his sort of parallel reality where in the world that he's living in there was blood gushing out of his ear and the world that he's living in

the ear is a very bloody part of the body right and it's like once you accept that invitation It was kind of like complimenting the emperor's new clothes to take the old Germanic fairy tale version of the story, right? But that's that's Trump. It's like the emperor's bloody ear. Yeah, 100%. And Rogan just accompanied him on that journey. Yeah.

And we talked about this, but I viewed this sort of like pretty much as a tit for tat situation. Trump got his own podcast. I'm sure there was some backroom Dan Egan type that was talking about the breakfast club and Trump felt like he needed his moment too. And again, it's just another layer of that all-familiar racist white guy. This time it's like the gym bro, right? Although he did, I did like him in Fear Factor.

I thought Fear Factor was good. It's one of those things like the Rogan show, it's kind of sneaky in a way because you know you'll see some of your faves that get to go on rogan every now and again but it seems to me that the whole of rogan's MO is essentially right wing right I mean taking it all together right and then musk was on rogan and I think he called joe Rogan an idiot to his face. Well, that was the thing that I was going to say was that there was two takeaways that I have from the Trump on Rogan. One was that discussion of Musk where they're talking about him and they're both like, oh, yeah, he's the greatest.

Yeah, like the smartest guy. By the way, Elon is great. That guy is such a great guy. I think you're a fan of Elon. He is from a different planet. He's the greatest guy. but he's a really smart guy and he's a very good guy with computers, right?

You'd say he's one of smartest people alive. Anybody that can land that 20-story building and perfect and while he's doing Starlink, while he's talking to me about him, while he owns Twitter. And then he agrees to Starlink. And he tweets 100 times a day. He's an amazing guy.

Yeah. And that point, you know, a lot of people have discussed the fraudulent nature of Elon Musk. entire persona, his business empire, everything about him, right? I know there was a True and on series a while back that kind of tracked the whole Musk propaganda machine and unpacked a lot about that. I think that this type of a person putting on the old attorney cap here, Musk's net worth

is based on the value of his stocks, which in turn are based upon the valuation of his companies that certain market analysts create. And they create it largely based on speculation. It's not really based on anything concrete. you know for every uh rocket landing spectacle that he's able to put on there's uh whatever that that shitty bus thing was called right um what i think about as you're talking is like elizabeth holmes right yes the line between elizabeth holmes of the world right and the

Elon Musk's of the world, it's very hazy, very blurry, and, like, by and large, they're not different business models. Musk was able to land and sort of get enough backing where he became big enough. He's too big to fail. And, you know, Holmes was not. Right. You know, we've talked a lot on our podcast about cutouts CIA cutouts and conduits and fronts and facades

right and that is kind of what Elon Musk is at this point not only is he a vessel and his companies serve as a vessel for government

subsidies to flow to research and development of military technology which is a big part of it that's the sort of practical value of it but there's a propaganda value that's much greater than that which is inflating this image or myth of the richest man in the world right the super genius right the guy who's going to solve all of the problems and it what it does is it allows it allows it allows for the global path to apocalypse

climate catastrophe that is probably past the salvation point if we're being honest at this point right it allows it to happen because everybody is thinking this man's going to save us exactly

exactly and somebody even said I think it was somebody from Google my own opinion is that we're not going to hit the climate goals anyway, and yes, the needs in this area will be a problem, but I'd rather bet on AI solving the problem than constraining it and having the problem. That AI, that powerful AI, is our only hope for salvation because we're already past the point of no return. So it's basically like your bed will be made by Elon Musk and his band of fake super geniuses.

They're really just like monkeys on a unicycle. Okay, well, I'm getting a little nauseous. And this Republican Party, this city we're in, it's like a fucking Cronenberg movie. The issues, the things they're talking about, the caricatures. I mean, it's a caricature of a political party. They're talking full on about eating cats and dogs. post birth abortions sex changes at school yeah sex changes at school like what the fuck is going on let's get out of town before we do i think we should talk a bit about jd vance and then do some final

thoughts oh jd vance what are you going to do about vance i mean the tim d dillan interview and just the same with the trump on rogan thing like it's very hard to point the finger in certain respects at the Republicans because, as the Spanish would say, se lo ponen in bandeja. Like the Democrats, they serve up on a tray. A feast of hypocrisy, of dishonesty, of lies. Just waiting, you know, they're not even conceiving.

There's not even an effort to conceal the hypocrisy. It's just there out in the open. And so when J.D. Vance goes out and says, like, come on, I just want to talk like a real guy. Like, I don't want to go out and just talk absolute nonsense like Kamala. Like, nobody understands what she's saying. Like Dick Cheney, who I legitimately think is the single worst vice president easily of my lifetime. Right. But effective.

But, well, effective at, like, destroying the country, right? Well, that's what I, yes. But the fact that the media now pretends that he's like some hero of human rights, the guy was a disaster. Right. I mean, we invaded Iraq. We invaded, you know, the 20-year quagmire in Afghanistan, all of these Americans who lost their lives, who lost their limbs, that was because of very stupid leadership. And now we're going to forget about it because the media hates Donald Trump. It's the most insane thing I've seen in politics.

And it's like, that is a legit own because if you are speaking in a way that your own words reflect an utter absence of substance, that's on you. But then, as soon as J.D. starts talking about his own purported policy preferences, and his own purported political enemies, he is absolutely full of shit, the same that Trump is, right? Like, taking on this fake populist. Yeah. I mean, he talks about being against the military industrial complex.

He talks about being against Dick Cheney, right? Yeah, yeah. Another example, right? Like, Kamala, nobody forced her to not only accept, but to enthusiastically embrace and celebrate the Cheney endorsement. And so obviously they're going to hit her on that. But then when he's like, Dick Cheney is awful and he lied us into war, and it's like, dude, you are in the same party.

And at the end of the day, while there's a little shuffling of the chairs, what? Are you going to say the same thing about Lindsay Graham? Yeah, right? Totally. And the hypocrisy, like, I just, I don't want listeners to come away thinking that we're going soft on the Republican side. Like, in the same Trump interview with Rogan, right, he talks about how he's going to do the RFK, make America healthy thing. And like him and Rogan riff for all this time about getting the chemicals out of food.

And in the same interview, he's talking about how the worst thing for the, economy are environmental regulations and that he's going to get rid of them yeah and also like well not in the interview but he's doing fucking photo ops at macdonalds right right yeah you know it's like yeah you know we i think we're not talking about the republican party as much only because they make us sicker to think about yeah it's like it's so obvious like if you really believe any of the shit the populist slop that they put into your trough, I encourage you to activate your gag reflex and cough it up before you digest it

because that shit is poison. Yeah. So yes, we are telling you that both parties are no surprises. Yeah, totally. I think we're getting past the hour. Let's get the fuck out of this. this town. Let's do some final thoughts. So as we said, by the time this episode plays, we will be just days away from finding out who will take the helm of the U.S. Empire.

It's a tight race. It's probably the tightest race we've seen in a very long time, right? Like, the analysts are all saying that it's very close and also not much is moving the needle either way on a day-to-day basis. Usually this last stretch of an election cycle, you start seeing some things and it's anyone's game. So, Don, I leave it to you to say some. final thoughts on where we go from here i mean look i think it's my prediction hasn't changed throughout the entire election cycle i always pretty much thought that trump was going to take this one i still do i don't think that kamala has the juice to win in like pennsylvania Michigan and if she loses either one of those she's fucked right if you want to vote for

a common a swing state think that uh that's something that people do i don't care but i ultimately think that just like the last time around when trump is at the helm and everybody is forced to think about politics right you hear a lot of this like people really just don't want to be bombarded with it 24 hours a day, which, eh, I don't know if I agree with that. I think that people kind of do wittingly or unwittingly their dopamine systems get hooked up to the cycle. So I don't think that it's necessarily true that people don't want to be bombarded with this. The fact is, is that whoever wins, you're going to be bombarded with this bullshit because it's always going to be the jangling jingling keys

held out in front of your face while the rest of the world is plundered for the benefit of the owners of capital and your own pockets are robbed by this essentially. essentially uniparty system, which the only way that we're going to get out of this hell is to somehow get rid of it. And I just say, I'm pretty pessimistic. I think things will probably get worse before they get any better. And that goes either way, you know, whoever wins. yeah the ship's headed in the same direction either way i think it's just a matter of how fast we get there thinking about this election and how close it is it's really funny seeing this last couple of

weeks these two knuckleheads try and pander to all of these different cross sections of american society how many handfuls of them we talked about tonight but But as my final thought, I'll say it's almost like they're trying to grasp in their hands like grains of sand at the last minute. And yeah, it's close. I'm with you. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be Trump exactly because Kamala is not going to be able to carry Michigan and Pennsylvania and those places where Biden was able to get a consensus of folks to collect of folks because of the coronavirus pandemic right yeah that's really what edged him over i think yeah and people ask like are are the dems like are they this bad at it or do they want to lose on purpose

i think it's both yeah i think you know camilla and and probably her inner circle are this bad at it i think that they are just uh so high off their own farts and pharmaceutical cocktails that they don't see the error of their ways. I mean, there's a hubris that's almost unfathomable. But at the same time, I think the head honchos, you know, the money men behind the curtains, actually see an advantage in losing 2024 to bide a little time,

to let Trump crash and burn, once again and you know who the fuck knows like what kinds of mass

social experiments they've got on the back burner waiting for us over the next five years before the next COVID

the next whatever whatever is in store for us yeah but we're saying all of that I think with the caveat that we still got some time and anything can happen literally any day i think one thing you know

it will become incumbent on those of us who do see through some of the bullshit and i'm always surprised you know talking with people out in real life i'm always surprised at how many just ass backwards ideas people have you know which random lies people choose to believe and to hold dear to them but i think the time is coming where we've got to be aggressive in speaking truth to power uh speaking our truth in the real world and not just online right that it is not acceptable to uh commit genocide for example. Yeah. Using our tax dollars to fund wars isn't cool.

Yeah, put the Constitution to the test. Because... Yeah, totally. Because it is still technically there on paper. And every day, it's being shown to us in a display case and meanwhile, torn into shreds in practice, right? And apologies that I mentioned it again, but I just... watched it earlier today and it was so atrocious but in the same CNN town hall Kamala both said with almost with a teary choked up voice that Donald Trump said that he would I can't remember

what she said like set aside the constitution or something or he would he would suppress the I don't know what she said yeah yeah yeah repeal the constitution or something yeah she says this a bunch. I think she said this on Charlemagne, too. And the reason why among them is a legitimate fear based on Donald Trump's words and actions that he will not obey an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. He himself has said he would terminate the Constitution of the United States and wants to earn your vote to stand again behind the seal of the President of the United States, no one standing behind the seal of the President of the United States of America

should be in that position saying they want to terminate the Constitution of the United States. Yeah, and it's like, who knows where the fuck that's coming from? Yeah. For one. But just like the accusation slash confession of fascism, It's an abstract, meaningless thing for her to say when in the same interview she goes on to respond to a question about, quote-unquote, violent anti-Semitism on college campuses, which, by the way, is a non-existent thing. I'm not aware of a single incident of violent anti-Semitism on a college campus or anywhere else, but I am aware. that an extremist Zionist in Illinois murdered a six-year-old stabbed to death for being Palestinian.

I am aware that in Vermont, Palestinian college students were shot and luckily survived for being Palestinian. So in response to this question about fake, violent anti-Semitism, Kamala says, We need to have laws in place that make those who would commit. crimes on behalf of anti-Semitism and hate, that they pay a serious consequence. We need to have the deterrence so that doesn't happen. The dark and distant drumming, the pounding of the hoops, the silence of everything that moves. Later night you see them, decked out in shiny jewels, the coming, In other words, we need to criminalize protest.

This is coming at us from both sides. They both want to destroy all the ideals that they pretend to stand for. And I think most people are ready to roll over to it, but maybe not. Some do blinding where, when you can't help but lose, you're running. with the caravan of food. Okay, well, this was going to be a short one, turned into a long one. I feel sick to my stomach.

And I think it's a good time to say to our dear listeners, thanks for spending another hour with us. Tune in next week when we get started. On our JFK special, the Warren Commission decided. Until next time, I'm Dick. And I'm Don, saying farewell. And keep digging. Caravan of fools.

Caravan of fools. You're running with the caravan of fools. You know, I'm going to I'm going to Thank you.