Fourth Reich Archaeology - Choose Your Hitler 3: Fuhrer Fever

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

Are you heading into Thanksgiving weekend wondering WTF you will talk about with family and friends? Fear not, dear listener; Fourth Reich Archaeology has got you covered. We dropped this exclusively ...pre-Thanksgiving for our Patreon subscribers (sign up to get more such treats!), but you know we won't hold out on our listeners, so here it is for free. We offer some fodder to break the ice on a subject that we’re sure you’ll agree is dinner conversation appropriate–the sad true fact that we are currently living in the Fourth Reich, and the latest election results are a painful reminder that that's true.In the third installment of our 2024 election coverage, we do a post-mortem of the spectacle and add our patented Fourth Reich Archaeology view to the discourse. We offer a verbal carving-knife to help you cut through the liberal doomerism weighing down so many of our friends and families in the wake of Trump’s win and share some thoughts on why we’re hopeful about the next four years. It’s not that we’re excited about Trump’s Killer Krony Krew; it’s that the mask of American fascism is slipping more and more, making the Fourth Reich Archaeology message resonate more than ever. You’ll want to listen to the very end of this one to catch the instructions for Fourth Reich Archaeology’s very first parlor game, which will be the perfect way to have some fun with your normie loved ones this holiday season. Music:​The Doors - “Five to One”​John Lennon - “Working Class Hero”​Blaze Foley - “Oval Room”​Mick Gordon - “Nazi Punks, gtfo”​Tom Waits - “Everything Goes to Hell”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Colonialism or imperialism, as the slave system of the West is called, is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. So it's one huge complex or combine. Either you are with us. where you were with the terrorists. And this international power structure is used to suppress the masses of dark-skinned people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We found no evidence of a conspiracy, foreign or domestic, the Warren Commission of science. I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. In 1945, we began to require information, which showed that there were two wars going. His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders the more easy victims of a big lie than a small one. For example, we're the CIA. He has a mouse.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He knows so long as to die. Freedom can never be secure. It usually takes a national crisis. Freedom can never be secure. insecure. Pearl Harbor. A lot of killers. You get a lot of killers.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Why you think our country's so innocent? This is not going to see. I am. This is a model. This is Don't. Bigged forth Reich is coming. In this is Fort Reich. Archaeology.
Starting point is 00:01:49 This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. I'm Dick. And I'm Don. Welcome back, listener. And, well, Welcome, if this is your first time tuning in. This is another out-of-series episode today. We are taking a break from our current series within a series
Starting point is 00:02:15 The Warren Commission decided to bring you all a little election post-mortem special. Before we get into it, we'll start off with the usual. reminders that we'd love to hear from you. Our email is Fourth Reichpod at gmail.com and we're on Twitter and Instagram at Fourth Reich Pod. We also have a Patreon site which is picking up some real steam. We're very, very pleased and grateful for all of our subscribers. And it will will bear fruit. We've got some exclusives in the making.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We're going to do some early releases and put out some other treats for the subscribers. But mostly, we just really invite your financial support to the extent you're willing and able to support us in putting out more stuff for you. and in one day dedicating ourselves full time to, well, to exposing the Fourth Reich that we all unfortunately inhabit. So this week, we're coming at you again with another election special. This time we're doing it as a post-mortem. That's right, a recap of the 2024 presidential election, as if you.
Starting point is 00:03:57 maybe you haven't had enough of those in recent days. We're hoping to release this one early to our subscribers on Patreon. And in doing so, we hope to perhaps maybe facilitate conversation at the dinner table this holiday season. I think without further ado, we should just get into it. Well, I want to thank you all very much. This is great. These are our friends. We have thousands of friends. on this incredible movement. This was a movement like nobody's ever seen before. Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It talks about the blood of America being poisoned. That's going the same exact language used in Nazi Germany. These are people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. We're going to help our country here. We have a country that needs to. And it needs help very badly. This will truly be the golden age of America.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That's what we have to have. And he intends to end the affordable care act. You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that, otherwise I'm speaking. This is a magnificent picture for the American people that will allow us to make America great again. We're all over. I spoke with President of President Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Congratulations, much of America people deserve. Folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. But we must accept the results of this election. Earlier today, I spoke with President Trump and congratulated him on his victory. We will engage in a piece Well, first of all, I wanted to say that this is now the third election-themed episode that we're recording. And all of these election episodes, you know, most of our work here on
Starting point is 00:06:18 Fourth Reich Archaeology is of a more historical nature. We have obviously focused a great deal on telling the story of the rise of the Fourth Reich through the person and career of our 38th President Gerald Ford, who kind of bridged that gap between the Great Coup in Dallas of November 22, 1963, and the Great Coup in Florida of November 22, 1963, and the Great Coup in Florida of November 2000, when Dick Cheney and the George Bush political machine were able to pull off a heist of the presidential election and kind of bookend the various election thefts and unelected rises to power that characterized in a large part the major events of the late 20th century.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Now, last time that we had one of these election episodes, it was just before the presidential election. And, you know, not to toot our own horn too much, but we were pretty much spot on in terms of what we predicted. Dick, do you want to do you want to do? want to walk through a couple of those bangers that we were able to nail? Gladly, folks, we saw it all along, we knew it all along, Kamala could not be our president. I mean, in retrospect, everybody is saying it, but we were saying it all along. This person who was zanned out and drunk and literally had not a single, ne'er a single policy position, didn't stand a chance.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah, let alone any accomplishments as vice president, other than to get sent to the border and just stand there and say, I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous trek to the United States-Mexical border. Do not come. Do not come. Do not come. Do not come.
Starting point is 00:08:51 or like anywhere at any point in her career right like she for as far as i could tell never really accomplished much at all um and was just sort of to take it back to our boy jerry was just sort of at the right place at the right time now i think don you'll agree with me where at this point we've gotten everyone's take on the election and what went right and what went wrong and on this point I think generally people fall into one of two camps and you guessed it those camps are Kamala did absolutely everything a candidate could do in the 15 in the short 15 weeks that she had she did not make one misstep she did not do anything wrong she was a flawless candidate and then of course there's everybody else in the world
Starting point is 00:09:56 with I guess more than a handful of brain cells thinking like what the fuck are you talking about this thing was a disaster from the jump yeah and both camps even start from I think too zoomed in of a perspective in as much as you can't just say like she did a good job or she didn't do a good job i mean the whole thing and this is another thing that i think we got right the last time around the whole thing was a total bait and switch you have biden everybody with eyes knows from at least mid-20203 and probably much sooner that he's cooked He's fried. He's not running with a full tank, whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 00:10:50 No one should make the American people question whether their governments will make sure that this is acting around the strikes. They'll be there. We will, all of us. Eric Dean, the Ironworkers, Tim Dishkel of Bicklayer, April Bell, the SCIU. And to the Hila Indian River community,
Starting point is 00:11:12 He'll be, he'll, you know, nothing wrong with me. Senator Chris Van Halen. What the hell's his name? He's new. Chris and I've been doing this for so many years now. It's getting old. And at least I'm getting old. They keep him in there for the sole purpose that he's not really running the country.
Starting point is 00:11:36 There's a whole apparatus of bureaucrats running the show behind the scenes. None of them wants to concede power, and they don't want to have an open primary because they're in the middle of carrying out a genocide for one thing, which, you know, they don't want to politically expose that to attack from their left flank. If they're going to get attacked from the left, it's going to be by kind of your nobody's no offense, like Jill Stein. And so, you know, they timed the switcheroo, as we've discussed, perfectly to coincide with the convention so that it's too late by the time she's announced and Biden drops out. It's too late for there to be any alternative. And who knows what was going on before that happened, if they had considered and ruled out other people.
Starting point is 00:12:38 But it would be pretty awkward for the party. to leapfrog the vice president and handpick somebody else as Biden's successor. So they were kind of making their bed for quite a long time to take that very lengthy and very deep winter's nap to last the next four years. Yeah, and the timing of the switcheroo is also important because it was just late enough so that the democratic establishment would be beyond any meaningful criticism about not having a primary, basically, right? Like, they waited long enough so that the public and the members of the party wouldn't
Starting point is 00:13:29 think twice about just sort of overlooking the fact that, like, hey, we actually never really, we never chose this lady. 100%. But I think the main thing that I've noticed in all the coverage I've been seeing in the last three weeks or two weeks or however long it's been is that no one's really giving any airtime to the remarkable turnaround that we got over the summer of 2024. Right? Like the vice president in the spring of 2024 was not a popular person. not at all. And it's like we said in our last, in the last time we did an election special, the memes that were coming out about it, the ridicule, right? The, uh, she was not viewed as a
Starting point is 00:14:21 serious person. And then it was like a switch went off. And overnight, the way the establishment was able to mobilize and consolidate so much behind this one person so that, I mean, it was as if it was, you know, everyone was synced up in a mind control device. And all of a sudden, Kamala was this law and order candidate who was the only person you would think that could stand toe to toe with Donald Trump. She never loses her cool. She prosecuted sex predators. He is one. Grab them by the fuck. She shut down for profit colleges that swindled Americans. He was a for-profit Yeah, it was pretty amazing. And it was the same as the flipping of the switch with Biden,
Starting point is 00:15:14 where it was considered totally taboo to criticize his mental acuity until one day everybody was on the same page that, oh, yeah, this guy, he's got dementia and his, you know, a sack of flesh. And that does say something. something broader and this is something listener that perhaps is worth bringing up if you like myself have family members who don't see things the way that you do but one thing that we wanted to do was to talk about some trial balloons some test cases if you will that you will that can be used to point out the incoherence and the rank hypocrisy that our system embodies.
Starting point is 00:16:19 When you were talking about the lack of a primary process and all that stuff, I remember the exit polls were talking about how the main issue that people cited was the future of democracy. And one would assume that that reflects big turnout for Kamala because their whole campaign message was Trump is a threat to democracy. But in fact, obviously given what we now know about the actual election results, a lot of the people whose main concern was the future of democracy voted for Trump. Now, why might that be? Well, you know, there are probably a lot of reasons,
Starting point is 00:17:09 but the statement, you know, the term the future of democracy, the future of our democracy, sort of a Roershack type thing, right? Where it could mean literally anything to, it means whatever the person who's reading it wants it to mean, right? Like, of course, the Trump supporters, when they are going to the ballot box, they're doing it. What are they fighting against?
Starting point is 00:17:35 They're fighting against the cabal, the deep state, the democratic establishment, the Clintons, the, I don't know, Pizza Gate, whatever the... The great replacement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Elon Musk was tweeting like every single day that the Democrats were going to register millions of illegal immigrants to vote and that they would never lose an election again after they, you know, summoned this massive army of illegal voters. Yeah, so fuck.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I mean, the future of our democracy, hell yeah, of course. Especially since that is not true. In fact, I am the one saving democracy for the people of our country. Yeah, but it is, you know, I think one thing that people in the future, Democrat side just don't appreciate is how horrendously hollow and hypocritical the entire messaging of the party is. You know, it's not about, oh, but we marginally changed this economic policy or we appointed Lena Khan to the head of the FTC. Like, nobody gives a shit about that.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It's like when the person that you're being asked to vote for comes on TV and you see them and you see that every single word and gesture is focus grouped and scripted and dishonest, it's not something that you want to vote for. Yeah. And yet what 70 million and some change people did? That's remarkable to me. That's what's scary. That's what's alarming.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's like there are 70 million people. out there in this country that, like, bought the ticket over this 15-week media storm and said, you know what, this is our best option, so we're just going to go with it. Yeah, but, you know, my favorite bucket of voters on the stats list has got to be those 90 million voters who stayed home. Non-voters of America, I salute you. Yeah. What did you say before we go?
Starting point is 00:20:04 You're part of the biggest voting block in the country. Right. And if their vote counts, the real winner of this election is no one. Which, it's like, of course the real winner is no one. Because the system is so illegitimate. And this is where, you know, maybe we can tie it back into the Fourth Reich here. But what we have been talking about throughout this whole podcast, our entire project is essentially geared around the thesis that there's a fundamental continuity which connects everything from the British colonial genocidal exterminationist project that kicked off the so-called American experiment. way back in the 17th century, and the genocide of today being carried out by the U.S.
Starting point is 00:21:08 and Israel against the Palestinians, stopping by various points along the way, including Hitler's Third Reich. In other words, if you set yourself to the task, you can draw a straight line connecting Western colonialism or imperialism as the slave system of the West is known, right? To quote the great Malcolm X that gives us the line for the intro music, this is the what we call the Fourth Reich, but it's also, you know, the empire. Colonialism or imperialism, as the slave system of the West is called, is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States, but the interests in this country are in cahoots with the interests in France
Starting point is 00:22:10 and the interests in Britain. And by this, it's one huge complex or combine. And it creates what's known as not the American power. structure or the french power structure but it's an international power structure and this international power structure is used to suppress uh the masses of dark skin people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources the empire never ended to borrow the phrase from philip k dick and if this is the empire and the empire never ended if this is the fourth rike then what possible effect could democratic will of the people really have on the objectives and the tactics of the ruling elites
Starting point is 00:23:06 in a system that the ruling elites designed and control to perpetuate their own wealth and power most fundamentally the power to exploit the working classes, both in this country and on a global scale. As soon as you're born, they make you feel small by giving you no time instead of it all till the pain is so big you feel nothing. with a working class hero is something to be
Starting point is 00:23:57 With that lens, you realize the role of the American voter, at least on this national scale of these presidential elections, the role of the American voter is little more than a disgusted spectator. Someone who is there to be entertained, distracted, and then ultimately told which one of the two options better suit their worldview. It doesn't really even matter who the person is. It's about what everyone and everything around that person is saying.
Starting point is 00:24:33 A working class hero is something to be. A working class hero is something to be. I was sort of embarrassing to say But like if the Democrats wanted to win Like literally they could have ran fucking Oprah I honestly think that if Oprah were to make a full swing at the thing She could win Like that's where we are as a constituency
Starting point is 00:25:04 I think what matters is what a person means How present that person has been in our lives And what that person is sort of become in our heads and sort of our memory banks of what you know what they are yeah yeah i mean i've always thought like the democrats real wet dream for a candidate would have been michel obama because not that she's like she's not the same brash or you know i don't know how good she is off the cuff or how off the cuff her public remarks are but they certainly appear more sincere than somebody like Kamala.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Like even in a controlled setting like the we talked about last time the Charlemagne the God interview that Kamala did on the breakfast club, like even there where her whole shtick going into it is like, oh, I'm just going to sit down and have this real conversation with y'all. And like, and it was so shitty. It was so hollow And Michelle can pull that type of thing off real well You know
Starting point is 00:26:23 And people are like oh Kamala should have gone on Rogan The problem isn't that she didn't go on Rogan Because she You know And therefore she failed to reach his audience It's that there's no universe In which she does go on Rogan And have like an unscripted conversation
Starting point is 00:26:44 because when she does that, she looks and sounds not like a human being. Right. Right. And also, for those who are like, she should have gone on Rogan, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Rogan is a Neanderthal. Like, four years ago, you wouldn't have thought, like, you would have been caught dead on Rogan. In fact, when Bernie Sanders went on Rogan, what happened? he got a bunch of shit about it totally and and they're terrified that like rogan is a dumb guy but he also as a dumb guy is not shy to call out hypocrisy when he feels like it and i think he doesn't feel like it or rather he knows not to do that with trump because
Starting point is 00:27:44 He's enthrall to the Musk contingent of the economy, right? You think that those fucking numbers that he's putting up are legit? I don't. Like, he's, he's the number one media personality on this pure spectacle of meritocracy tip. And I think that is something that I'd like, like our listeners to truly internalize that this entire idea of meritocracy fits within a spectacle that itself is generated and propagated to prop up the system as it is with all of its hierarchical exploitative relationships of power for the very discreet purpose.
Starting point is 00:28:44 of bringing people along for the ride, right? I mean, even like present company not excluded, right? I mean, everybody who has a job, everybody who's participating in the economy. We all pretend to respect the rules of the game just to get along. but the game is fucking rigged and i think bringing that to the surface and bringing that out into the open that's the real task at hand it's not coming up with a joe rogan of the left or some dumb shit like that right joe rogan is just a fake phenomenon that fits a certain group of interests at this moment in time, namely, oh, let's like get a dumb guy to talk to a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:29:49 and not really, and I don't think he has, you know, I don't think that he has any ideological commitments in the first place. Right. Yeah, I mean, Rogan was a Bernie supporter. So, yeah, totally. He's along for the ride. We're all along for the ride. We're all, We're bystanders at this point, you know? We get called upon if you are willing to serve, you could get a tasty little position. Otherwise, like, we're on the sidelines watching and essentially helpless.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yep. Yep. Keep you dope with religion and sex and TV. And you think you're so clever and classless and free. but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see but be not dismayed listener because I think we can maybe pivot now to a few hopeful thoughts about the next Trump administration and the future
Starting point is 00:31:05 and I don't mean to say that I'm glad Trump won or think that he's going to do any good things at all. However, I do think that, just like everything else in this totally manufactured discourse, the idea that Trump presents some novel threats is overstated. I mean, just look at the 180 that the entire Democrat Party did the day after the election. for fuck's sake it's going to be okay don't worry we're still in this together give us more money
Starting point is 00:31:46 Kamala Harris still fucking sending out fundraising emails I mean they have no fucking shame it's atrocious but come on I mean of course they were lying the whole time when he was doing that transition meeting with Trump and Biden says
Starting point is 00:32:07 exactly that he says it's time to do a peaceful transition as if that's just like you do that and now we have democracy you know peaceful transition and everything's okay yeah the guy that they have been saying is hitler over the last year and a half totally which it's not to say that he's not he's hitler biden's hitler harris is hitler i mean these are all people that belong in the hague they all belong in international criminal court. You know, glad that the arrest warrants went out for BB and for Gallant, but that's not nearly enough to bring accountability for this Holocaust. And all of these U.S. people are like so evil.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But back to the hopeful thing, right? So now that we've established that everyone in the mainstream U.S. political system is, in fact, the modern moral equivalent of little Ikements running around. What are we hopeful for? I'm hopeful, honestly, to open up the discourse. I am resigned to the belief that all this shit, it happens at the level of spectacle, which is in itself, makes the possibilities very limited. But at the same time, I do think that there's a certain force of truth which can't be ignored
Starting point is 00:33:58 when you come out and say things like the Democrats were committing genocide, all international authorities have described the campaign against the Palestinians as a genocide. The death toll is higher than we have any idea, and they refused to engage with the issue at all. And not only did they refuse to engage, but they berated, talked down, bullied, and marginalized everybody who said anything about it. What worse thing could you do politically than to make genocide denial one of the centerpieces of your platform? When AOC got up on the DNC stage and said, She is working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and bringing hostages home.
Starting point is 00:35:06 She's working tirelessly for a ceasefire, which, by the way, the lame duck Biden presidency, right? With no political stakes for the future of the party, vetoed another ceasefire resolution. So when AOC said that, she was doing Holocaust denial, right? In the last episode, we said that there's no way that the youth vote will turn out in numbers for the Democrats because the Democrats rely on the assertion, don't trust your lying eyes. Believe us, we're trying to end this thing. Meanwhile, here's another $100 million for weapons with no strings attached. So what exactly are you hopeful for?
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm hopeful because these statements that I'm making now, which on November the 4th were taboo statements to make and would be met with scolding, if not venom, from the polite, white-collar society in which we as lawyers ordinarily operate in, the gloves got to come off now because we're speaking the verifiable truth not to power, but to losers. Ah, yeah. Okay. We're hopeful for the same thing then. Okay. Because I'm hopeful for the prospect that the listenership will be much more receptive to our message that we are living in the Fourth Reich, and that's a bad thing, and we need to change that. I think our message under the Trump presidency will go a lot further, and so I think we're saying
Starting point is 00:37:06 the same thing. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We're definitely saying the exact same thing. It's about this moment. It's about seizing the reins within the realm of discourse and spectacle and what have you. I'm not, you know, I don't really have any know-how about political organizing or anything like that. So I'm not telling people what to do other than, you know, don't be so embarrassed to be right about geopolitical analysis. And I pose that challenge to myself. I pose it to you. I pose it to the listeners. pose it to your families and friends because, you know, at the end of the day, it's just
Starting point is 00:37:56 inescapable, right? When Trump, and I think we might have talked about this last time too, but when Trump and when Vance get out there and point the finger and they say, yeah, these Democrats, they say that they want to help working people, but they're full of shit, they're all millionaires, they get tons of money and they just spend it on this ridiculous celebrity extravaganza. Like, what can you say to that? They're right. Which, this actually brings us to another point I wanted to talk about, another point that
Starting point is 00:38:28 really hasn't made the mainstream sort of post-mortem discussion. And that is that it was never really about who wins or loses. More so this election than any other election. You had fucking Dick Cheney on. the Dem side. You had Kamala talking about doing the border wall better than Trump. It didn't matter who wins. What really mattered is how much of that sweet, sweet green money was flowing about.
Starting point is 00:39:07 That's right. Yeah, before we started recording, I was starting to tell you I had subjected myself to about an hour at 2x speed of Pod Save America, which usually I've never, I don't know if I've ever listened to like a whole episode. I usually get it just in the clips, but listen to a little bit of it. And one thing that stood out was as they talk about reconfiguring for the future, they frame it in terms of, we have to prevent the Trump coalition from holding together to solidify its grip on power, which, you know, translation, at least as I understand it, translation is we need to manipulate enough people to vote for us so that we can still keep getting
Starting point is 00:40:18 that paper. Right, on our terms. Yeah. Right? We need to build a voter base of people that are down with our message and not the other way around. Which all comes back to this whole. shame as the framework for politics, which I think is at the end of the day what we're trying
Starting point is 00:40:40 to repudiate in the strongest of terms. And not to be a couple of historians on this thing and talk about how important it is to remember our history. But let's do a little live action discussion of history, of future history. It's funny, no one has really mentioned the fact that everyone is talking about what we need to do for the next one, right? We need to start thinking about our plan for four years from now. What no one's even addressing is that in this country, we have such a fucking short-term memory that, like, it doesn't even matter. It's like, what matters is that nobody remembers any of this.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Totally, totally. Just like Tim Cain, right? that even in 24 you'd go around and ask like yeah who was Hillary's running mate in 2016 and people'd be like I don't know
Starting point is 00:41:40 you gotta wipe that shit under the rug that's the beautiful thing about this country it's like really when it comes to the presidential election it's like and everybody fucking knows this it's like what happens in the last three months so you know in terms of like debriefs and post-mobile and lessons learned and what the future has in store.
Starting point is 00:42:05 None of the shit fucking matters. I mean, we're in, buckle up. We're in for a pretty wild ride. I think, thank God, it's going to be at least partially entertaining. Yeah, that's another thing that actually does give me hope, is like, if we're ready to start transitioning into talking about some of the Trump stuff, some of the post-election developments that have happened since November 5th. I'm very hopeful that the combination of these sort of fake populist J.D. Vance type guys that can get out there
Starting point is 00:42:46 and start talking about Epstein or can start talking about the CIA killed Kennedy and we need to release the files and all this kind of shit. you know get those guys in the mix with the real swamp creature ghouls of the neocon foreign policy establishment which by the way are the same people that make policy under joe biden that combination is going to make for some epic dirty separations from the administration, and ultimately, much more effectively than the worst instincts and the worst sort of policy prerogatives on the Democrat side were not contained because there was a unity of purpose within the Democrat Party to pursue a total neocon foreign policy.
Starting point is 00:43:53 the clash in the Trump administration is going to be great to watch. And once again, I'm certain it will bring forth no shortage of cognitive dissonance for folks like us to exploit, pinpoint, and analyze from that same Fourth Reich perspective. that we have invited our listenership to adopt alongside us. Absolutely. I'm hopeful for the prophecy to maybe one day, maybe one day soon, come true. That, of course, is the Jerry Ford prophecy about how. we're going to get her first female president. The president will die, and the woman will become president under the law or constitution.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Honestly, I'm just going to put it out into the ether right now. I would not put too long of odds against J.D. Vance resigning sometime during this term. I'm a never Trump guy. I never liked him. As I joke to my wife, I might write in my daughter. because that's about as good as it seems. But, you know, I think there's a chance if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning
Starting point is 00:45:32 that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton because I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place. A lot of people saying like, oh, J.D. Vance, he's lining up to become the next emperor with Peter Thiel pulling the strings and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, maybe, but to the extent that that is true, which I'm not saying it's not, right?
Starting point is 00:46:00 I think that might be his subjective desire and the subjective desire of his handlers like Peter Thiel and company. But the more that's true, the more Trump is going to fucking stomp on his ass in a very public way. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And you know that Trump doesn't like the guy, right? Like he's said as much in his victory speech when he handed the mic. He was like, you know, at first I had some reservations. And then he goes off and gives him some compliments. But like you could tell. And we all could tell like somewhere along the line in the summer where it was clear that Trump didn't really appreciate. JD so that's just all to say that like that's going out the starting gates they're probably not the best totally and jd i get the sense you know he unlike a guy like mike pence who's very much a follower right a very get into line kind of a guy notwithstanding uh what the democrat stands might say was his brave decision to certify the election on January 6th.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But I think J.D. maybe has a little more fire in his belly, even though he has a similar lack of charisma to Pence. So that's something to keep an eye on. Yeah. Well, maybe we should think about, talk about the things. that we're not hopeful for that make us a little sad
Starting point is 00:47:56 and I'll go first to get us going but it you know we've predicted this all along I think in the very first election special Don you said something along the lines of
Starting point is 00:48:15 it's the time for crime and nobody better candidate than the king of crime. In his oval room, in his rocking chair, he's a president, but I don't care. He's a businessman, he got business ties, he got dollar signs, and vote his eyes. Got a big airplane Take him everywhere Got a limousine
Starting point is 00:48:55 When he get there Everywhere he goes Makes the people mad Makes a poor man pay And a rich man glad He's the president But I don't care So we knew all along that it was going to happen,
Starting point is 00:49:24 but now actually seeing it play out, I for one, I can tell I maybe don't have the stomach for it. We have a guy who is a criminal, and he's getting in the office. And what does he do? He picks all of his cronies. and all of his loyalists and does exactly what you would think he would do.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And it's just going to be such a shit show. I agree that it is, but I'm not dismayed. I'd rather it be a shit show. For example, I honestly would rather that he pick a bunch of Florida characters out of a Carl Hyacen novel. First, it was Matt Gay, right the the weird yeah pervy guy that Venmo's teenage girls 500 bucks for being awesome and now it's it's that bottle blonde Pam Bondi who has a similar sort of extremely
Starting point is 00:50:37 Floridian background I'd rather see them either one of them in the the role than somebody like bill bar who is just an efficient experienced operator well-versed in the ways of the devil in his overall ring in his rocking rockin's chair he's a president There's always what's lingering on the horizon, right? And it's also the case that there's the possibility that lurking beneath the surface of these sort of spectacular appointments to the cabinet level positions will be more devious operators in the managerial level. And one can only hope for bureaucratic chaos. Yeah, definitely. And you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I've come around. It's going to be funny. You got RFK Jr. in charge of health and human services. What's that day one meeting going to sound like? A lot of guys taking out their earpiece. Turning down the hearing aids for that fucking meeting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Look, we calls it how we sees it, folks. this whole thing is just W.W.E. And par for the court. It's like Trump and his operatives are tapping our phones or maybe they're just listening to our podcast. But the guy picks Linda McMahon,
Starting point is 00:52:26 aka Vince McMahon's wife and partner in the WWE as the secretary of education. I guess that's one way to abolish the Department of Education.
Starting point is 00:52:44 School and people on the suplex. You may have heard about the shocking sex abuse lawsuit being leveled at W.W.E. Bosvince McMahon by a former employee. Former W.W.E. employee Janelle Grant accuses McMahon of sexual assault and trafficking. Just this week, McMahon, along with Dwayne the Rock Johnson, rang the bell at the New York Stock Exchange to celebrate the Rock joining the board of WWE's new parent company TKO.
Starting point is 00:53:15 The King of Crime Thesis, I think, is undefeated. Like, and I think we should do a whole episode another time. I know we said we were thinking about discussing it here. I think maybe just briefly touch on it, but I think we should do a full, like, movie episode. Maybe we'll get a guest or something to talk about The Apprentice. And that's the Ali Abbasi movie and not the Mark Burnett reality TV show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Which is a great movie. And it really does, it was heartening to see because it does bridge that gap in the entertainment sphere. And the story, he did a great job of connecting, basically tying the Nixon Watergate template. and sort of taking that thread and running it through Trump and sort of putting, painting the portrait of Trump as a up-and-coming guy under the tutelage of Roy Cohn. Yep. I don't know if we have any Trump supporting listeners.
Starting point is 00:54:29 If we do, you know, welcome. You are most invited to listen to our podcast. and hopefully we can help you open your eyes to the stench beneath the surface once you give that a scratch. But we've talked about how Trump was really reared on Roy Cohn, on the art of using blackmail and using selective extremism and flamboyancy. And crafting your own reality. That's what's up.
Starting point is 00:55:13 That's what it is. Just the world is whatever you say it is unless you contradict yourself. Or maybe not even that, right? Unless you acknowledge that you've contradicted yourself. And luckily with Trump, we know he never will. Right? That's one thing. uh the the movie he has these rules you know to live by the roy cone rules and it's like attack attack
Starting point is 00:55:42 attack never admit that you're wrong never apologize and that is so american right i mean we also have in the intro music for our podcast the quote of george hw bush I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. And I don't know if the listener knows this, but he said those words after the United States got caught blowing up a civilian passenger aircraft and killing hundreds of civilian passengers on board. People that had no involvement in any military conflict whatsoever. And he's out here, I will never apologize for the United States. And this is a guy in hindsight who's viewed as an
Starting point is 00:56:45 eminently reasonable and sophisticated and intelligent political operator. Absolutely. Right? But I think like in some respect, all of these guys, and this is probably why Trump, one of the reasons why Trump is so viciously successful why he fucking smoked Kamala's ass, is that all these guys that make it to the head of state or these high-ranking officials, their position has to be that they can never be wrong or that, more importantly, the U.S. can never be wrong. I take any one of them, right? you take anyone from Obama to all the way through our man, Jerry,
Starting point is 00:57:29 who famously would say that he has a real disdain for anyone who criticizes America. Part of the job is to be able to say with a straight face that whatever the, you know, whatever the, whatever we did, it's, you know, we're the good guys. And I think Trump does it so well because of this. reputation he's got for just basically pile driving the facts and I think that's where honestly one of the reasons Kamala failed it's she's telling you that Trump's a liar and Trump he listened to what he's saying and he he's not telling the truth it's like motherfucker you are also lying you are also not telling the truth um
Starting point is 00:58:25 but you're not willing to accept that sort of reputation. You're not willing to wear that mask. Right. And that's how you become, that's how you come off as disingenuous. Like if you would just, if the Democratic Party would just own up
Starting point is 00:58:42 to what they really are, you know? Yeah. And I think, and this also, I've been thinking about this a little bit. It ties back to Cold War anti-communism. right and and here we go again kind of weaving it all together this is our goal here to tie the contemporary political scene and phenomena into the larger historical narrative that we've been weaving and there is a straight line back from today's democrat party to cold war anti-communism of
Starting point is 00:59:24 yore the same way than the american labor movement right was purged of all communist or communist adjacent or even socialist elements throughout the 1940s and 50s the democrat party reflects i think the culmination of the purge of left thinking from the american political sphere. And that's why you have this entire professional class, this whole sort of dedicated bourgeois agglomeration of workers in quote-unquote politics, right, talking about your think tanks, your advocacy groups, your 501. C3s, your 501C4s, for that matter, and a lot of lawyers, believe me, that exist in a sort of bureaucratized
Starting point is 01:00:40 and a cyclical gatekeeping function that is essentially a payoff, almost a systematic bribery scheme to pay anybody with the sort of moral inclination for wealth redistribution and the analytical framework for wealth redistribution into adopting these incoherent, utterly irredeemable and untenable positions that, just like the Pod Johns that I was listening to earlier this evening, would say, I'm not talking about criticizing capitalism, but at least criticize the what? The what, John? That's the...
Starting point is 01:01:35 Criticize the what. These are the real winners every four years, this industry. They're the ones that are getting the payouts, and they're the ones that are really coming up on top every four years, no matter who wins. in a certain respect over this Trump administration are the rightful targets of the type of discursive intervention that we're making here, right? We're not, I mean, you can point out until the cows come home that Donald Trump is a criminal, that Donald Trump is a serial liar, that he utilizes violent and fascistic racist rhetoric that spurs his base into horrible racist action blah blah blah that's all
Starting point is 01:02:31 well good and true but it's not going to do anything to level that critique against somebody who says yes so i don't give a fuck i won you lost Fuck you, because I'm acting in the service of some greater goal to make America great again, whatever the fuck that means, and I'm going to just subsume any criticism that you level at me. It doesn't matter. It bounces right off of me because my goal is winning. And that's all that I care about. And meanwhile, the Democrats, at least at the level of pretense, right, they'll get tied themselves into.
Starting point is 01:03:19 a pretzel to weasel their way out of the types of critiques that we're talking about here that they only are in it to perpetuate this money go round that they don't really give a shit about winning hell why the fuck isn't washington dc a state if they care about winning so much to get themselves to permanent democrat senators in there huh they've had fucking absolute majorities, both houses and the presidency. Why didn't they make DC estate? Why didn't they codify Roe v. Wade? Because they want your money, motherfucker. They want your fucking money. Okay. Well, that seems like a pretty good spot to end today's episode. Before we do, sorry, I just want to tie it one more time back to the other series that we're
Starting point is 01:04:16 working on real quick because I was thinking about this there's a convergence here and it's a sort of a mental convergence that all this shit that I'm talking about that we've been talking about about the open palm of the Democrat Party chasing that paper and basically seeking to perpetuate itself over any political outcome. This type of selfish motivation, even down to the individual level, is something that as you listen to our other episodes, especially of late the Warren Commission episodes, the Kennedy assassination conspiracy episodes, right? Whenever you're thinking about these conspiracies, I think it's incumbent upon the real analyst, right, of all of this information. If you're going to make use of this information, you can't throw away any aspect, and that includes the vain and selfish motivations at the individual level that could be pushing any given person. to act in a certain kind of a way at any given time that was the last point that i wanted to make like
Starting point is 01:05:45 uh you know it's not just about oh we're serving the global bourgeoisie and we're going to get this w for the owners of capital right that's not how the thought process works at the subjective individual level and in fact the Democrat Party and the Kamala train wreck is a nice window to see how that plays out this day and age. You can imagine ain't nothing changed. Right. But you reminded me that there is one thing I did want to go over with the listener. A little bit of a fun game you could play with your family this holiday season at the dinner table or when you're talking to your nor me, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters. What I'd like you to do is try and see what sort of out-of-pocket shit you could get
Starting point is 01:06:42 your family to agree to. I get the sense that a lot of our listeners are probably left-leaning and many of them probably voted for Kamala, which is fine, whatever. But certainly your family members did if you're in the United States. So this is sort of geared towards more the democratic, liberal-leaning crowd. But I've come up with it. It's like a drinking game. And every time your family says something totally out of pocket and double points if you can goad them into saying you.
Starting point is 01:07:19 For example, you notice how there were, what, 14 million fewer voters this year? Don, what's the number? It's like there are 10 million fewer voters. Yeah, something like that, yeah. That turned out for Biden, that didn't turn out for Kamala? There's something fishy going on with that. Maybe there was some election fraud? Another one you could maybe try.
Starting point is 01:07:51 This is one I've been seeing in the news, which I think is funny, but you could try this one too, is. this one goes to my white brothers and sisters if you can get your family to shift the blame to the Latino vote or the Puerto Rican vote I'd like to sit and imagine you know a liberal left-leaning white family casting blame on Latinos for losing the presidentials was in Latinos what's up with that huh yeah right things like that oh another good one if you can get someone in your family to say that maybe Kamala's position on immigration just wasn't hard enough oh my god so you get the idea
Starting point is 01:08:43 have fun with it remember don't take it too seriously this was all an afterthought this is none of this really matters and there's always next time yeah what what really matters is you know trying in earnest to be truthful about reality because like we said way back in episode one if you look at the world through the propagandized lens where America is an exceptional democracy with some national moral compass it will make no sense to you to observe things as they are and so you got to change the lens and all of these thought experiments that you're that you're proposing this this drinking game i love it because i think at the end of it right you can kind of reveal the magic trick, reveal the sleight of hand. Well, happy Thanksgiving to those
Starting point is 01:09:56 who observe, make sure to remember the genocided native peoples. I remember it's probably been over 10 years now since I first had my extremely alienating Thanksgiving of trying to tell the younger cousins about the real history of thanksgiving but now oh you got to lay down the truth you got to lay down the truth but have fun with it guided by love that's what we are here on fourth rike archaeology is if nothing else we are guided by love and we love you listener we do okay so until next time i'm dick i'm don saying farewell and keep digging Why be sweet, why be careful, why be kind? A man has only one thing on his mind.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Why ask politely, why go lightly, why say please? They only want to get you on your knees. There's a few things that I never could believe of. A woman when she rapes, a merchant when he swears, A thief who says he'll pay a lawyer when he cares. A snake when he's sleeping. A drunkard when he prays. I don't believe you go to heaven when you're good.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And everything goes to hell in any way.

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