Fourth Reich Archaeology - Fourth Reich Geopolitik 3

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

This week, we are back with another excavation into the present moment, and once again, we are digging deep into its historical roots. The theme of the episode is genocide. First, we give a snapshot of the current moment within the broader trajectory of the US/Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. In Gaza, in the West Bank, and even in the diaspora. Physically and intellectually. But as our listeners should know by now, we are not just “reading the news” out here. Instead, we are utilizing genocide as a lens to understand the Fourth Reich.Unfortunately, the current ongoing genocide is not the first genocide that has taken place since the Nazi Holocuast. In fact, genocide is a persistent and ongoing feature on the landscape of the Fourth Reich just as it was for the Third Reich. After all, the persistence of genocidal violence is an essential piece of the capitalist machinery that traps billions of poor people around the world in misery to prop up the extractive, exploitive apparatus of the “modern,” purportedly “civilized” lifestyles of the ruling class. So we situate the current genocide in its historical context and take head-on the liberal finger-wagging hypothetical that “the left” bears responsibility for Trump’s openly fascist excesses due to its rejection of Kamala Harris and refusal to support the institutional Democrat party. We’re calling BULL on that allegation, and in our deconstruction thereof, we spare no targets of our analytical ire.This is one of our most personal episodes yet. There are times when the discussion gets emotional. We are living in trying times, in times of great upheaval and the potential for great advancement. The two-faced fascist beast whose right hand (Republicans) and left hand (Democrats) strangle the life of the people, has shown its monstrosity for all the world to see. Genocide is always central. Its unpunished commission itself undermines the rule of law more than any policy position the Trump administration could take, no matter how extreme.We hope you enjoy. The episode also includes three original compositions and recordings from our very own “Angleton’s Orchids” aka Don. Now let’s let the truth be the wind under our wings and take to flight!

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I have a national global. Bigged for a harsh is coming. In fact, archaeology, archaeology. This is Fort Reich Archaeology. I'm Dick. I'm done. Welcome back to another installment of our modern day episode, which we have been affectionately calling geopolitic. And so this one is going to be our third in the series, just to get back to the basics, back to home base, which is our vehement and vigorous

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you, the listener, and us here behind the microphone, talking about the things that are so very important in this day and age. Now again, this week we are going to step away from our typical historical excavation, which at the moment is the Warren Commission decided to lay down a track on really the issue that started this all off. Wouldn't you agree, Don? Yeah, I do agree. And it's an issue that really lurks in the background of everything that we've done. And that issue is genocide genocide we are living in genocidal times in fact it's hard to find a time that is not a genocidal time since the beginning of the european conquest of the entire globe and all of the Holocaust's large and small that have been deployed against people all over the world

to advance the conquest of nations, of markets, of industries, of capital. Genocide is really the connective tissue, the common symptom, if you were, will, that ties together the Nazi project of the Third Reich of extermination, which is well known and notorious to all people, what is less well known and notorious, but which is no less a reflection of the same spiritual sickness is what we've called the Fourth Reich. the continuity that really lies at the heart of this project is to trace the capitalist conquest in the name of expanding markets and securing access to raw materials to feed that ever-growing circulation of commodities and to do so without regard for what Western civilization purports to

respect as the inherent dignity, let alone equality of human beings and human life. Yeah, and this, I mean, I think at the outset we should totally acknowledge because I've noticed as of late, there are some folks on the other side of this conversation that are, sort of jumping on this bandwagon to assert that the Third Reich was a consolidation of capital and really the whole point was to advance the interests of the powers that be on an economic level and sort of reject the notion of the Holocaust, right? I'm talking about your Joe Rogan types so at the outset i think it's very important for us to say eda fittler very much not a friend of the pod the horrors that were meted out during world war two the violence that was meted out on the

jews during world war two was horrific it was a genocide it was awful cannot really put down into words how bad of a scene that was. Yeah, and not only the Jews, right? Disabled people, the Roma and Sinti people known by the derogatory term gypsies, the homosexual population identified by the Nazis. The communists, the socialists, it was, a vast, vast target population for extermination, and in the same way, we, it built on precedent that had already been laid down, for example, by the British Empire in the Raj, in the Indian subcontinent and other places. absolutely and and so what we're getting at here is that unlike those bullshit artists you'll hear

on rogan we fully acknowledge and indeed the very reason why we're doing this podcast is to make sure that never again does it happen unfortunately this humble podcast is maybe not reaching the right folks or the message isn't coming across clear enough and that's part of the reason why we're doing this episode again now. It is happening again. It is happening again. Here on Fourth Reich Archaeology, we are strong believers in the moral imperative against genocide. And it shouldn't be a controversial statement. It brings us to tears that it is.

But it seems like, you know, a year and a half in, this genocide has been proceeding largely unabated. And what really destroys our spirit is that we can't even call it out. The repudiation of genocide has become this red line. in the potentially extessential battle against fascism. Right. This permissive attitude that we have seen. I mean, anywhere between permissive to celebratory of the so-called civilized world, namely the United States, Canada, Europe,

towards Israel's genocide against the Palestinians is the strongest proof possible for the thesis of this podcast. Even stronger proof than the fascist extremes to which the Trump administration is going on the domestic scene politically, with its clampdown on civil liberties and constitutional rights, Even more than that, the fact that the mass and the undifferentiated slaughter of men, women, and children in a captive geographical area, that that is being not only denied as a genocide, but being spoken of as though it is the birthright of the Jewish.

Jewish people on account of the Holocaust. It creates a morality that is so warped, that is so deranged that that paradigm, that inversion of morality tells us a lot more about the meaning of the so-called rule of law in our world today than any. local or recent Johnny come lately fascist policy choices being made by the Trump administration. And that's not just today with respect to genocide, but that goes all the way back. Again, the history of the Cold War is a history of successive genocides. The history preceding World War II of the so-called Age of Exploration is a history of successive genocides. All of this raw material comes to the observer on objective terms, and then it is either twisted into something that is justified in the name of civilization,

progress or it is criticized for what it is which is a stamping down of the human spirit itself yeah and you know it's something we say all the time on this podcast and I think we should just say it one more time hopefully we won't have to say it very much longer but I don't I'm not going to hold my breath but we are living in the Fourth Reich. That is a very bad thing. For most of our time on this pod, we explore how and why we got here. For this episode,

I think we're just going to sort of ring the alarm bells about what's going on today. And I think with that, let's just get digging. Let's do it. We've got a genocidal on our hands. We've got a genocidal on our hands. We've got a genocider on our hands. Now tell me what you said,

beginning we feel all right. You always told me never again. But now your older presses are your friends. Was it a lie when you say them, or is it just that it's beginning to feel all right? So maybe we start off with just some top-level stats, Don, about what's going on. Yeah, as everybody knows, the situation is extremely dire, extremely grim. At least 50,000 Palestinians are confirmed dead, but that number is a gross underestimation given the amount of people that are buried under the rubble, the amount of

so-called indirect casualties and deaths, from starvation, from disease, from the disappearance of many medical facilities to care for ordinary illnesses that would otherwise be preventable. And to give one example, the Lancet last year published a conservative estimate that the total figure is at least four times whatever the confirmed count is. And so four times 50,000, that puts the number at two. 200,000, which would account for about 10% of the entire population of Gaza. And let's just take a step back for one second, if you'll humor me, Don. But by all accounts, the number of Israelis that were killed on October 7th,

well, what's that number? Maybe 1,200, I think. Let's say 1,300, right? Yeah, well, that's where it started. And 200 plus maybe, let's say, let's just say for the sake of argument, 300 folks were taken hostage. So in total, 1,600, let's say round up to 2,000. If you are a true believer of a just cause and a just war and a just response to that attack, I mean, just look at the balance, right? It's 2,000 Israelis versus what may well be 200,000 Palestinians. Yeah.

And I don't know, what is that? 100 to 1. That should really give you a clear picture about what this is really about. Yeah, and that's giving the benefit of the doubt to the Israeli death count. it's also setting aside the fact that some substantial number of Israeli casualties from October 7th were caused by Israeli friendly fire. You know, I think by now in the Israeli press, although probably not in the U.S. press, It's been acknowledged that Israel activated what's known as the Hannibal Directive on October 7th,

whereby the IDF takes the position that it's better for Israeli citizens to be killed than to be captured. And so a lot of those extremely heavy images of rows upon rows of hundreds of cars totally bombed out and blasted to a dusty pulp. You know, that was not even possible from the type of firepower that Hamas was controlling at the time. and something that I joined to many skeptics in pointing out very early on, you know, that was pretty clearly done by airfire from Israeli helicopters that were known to be in the area from Israeli tanks. And, you know, here we are a year and a half later. The cat is well out of the bag in the Hebrew language press,

but still the American media is unwilling to concede that acknowledged reality just because of the depth of defensiveness around anything that Israel does. And putting aside just the horrific body count, the number of dead, not just adult, of course, there's something like 15,000 of the confirmed dead or children, but putting aside the human lives, let's talk about just the sheer destruction of Palestinian infrastructure, of Palestinian property, of Palestinian land. Yeah, I mean, on this pod, we've talked about the Korean War a few times as a real unsung benchmark in mass destruction, where something in excess of 80% I believe of permanent structures

were destroyed. Well, as of January of this year, at least 70% of permanent structures in Gaza had been destroyed. But that includes over 92% of all housing units. And it also includes now, as of, you know, as recently as last week we're recording on April 21st. Very recently, within the last week, the last working hospital in the northern part of Gaza, the Al-Ahali Baptist Hospital, was bombed again by Israel. Remember, that was the hospital that Israel did sort of a test run, bombing it, blaming it, blaming it on Palestinian Islamic jihad's failed rocket or some bullshit

and letting the media argue about who done it until everybody forgot about it. And then proceeded to bomb all the other hospitals repeatedly based on, trumped up excuses which even if true do not justify the targeting of a hospital under international law like there's no ambiguity whatsoever that the principle of proportionality forbids utterly and unequivocally the targeting of civilian health care infrastructure and yet it's become a matter of policy for Israel to the point where now there are essentially no available health care facilities except whatever you can put together from the tools that are available to you. And those are, I mean, we're not going to be labor at the point.

Go listen to the testimonies of the many heroic doctors from all of the the world who have gone to Gaza to volunteer their services, it's, I mean, to call it harrowing is a gross understatement for the horror of the situation. Yeah. And all of this nonsensical violence, this broad attack on every inch of Palestinian land, Palestinian people. It sort of is, I mean, objectively, contrary to any stated objective from the Israelis, right? The point, if you ask them, why, why are you continuing to do this? The major line is, well, they still have our hostages. You know, give our hostages back.

It's insane to think that by leveling a hospital, which, by the way, may well have an Israeli life in it, that you are somehow doing that to achieve the goal of getting your people back. If you truly wanted to get your citizens out of this terrible fate that they're in, and if you truly were the power that Israel purports to be, think that there would be a much more tactical approach to do it. Yeah, I mean, at this point, I think it's another sick joke. Yep. The government of Israel is at total loggerheads with the many of, not all, I'll say,

but with many of the hostage families themselves, as well as hostages that have been freed from captivity, who have come out and who have said the most dangerous factor in my day-to-day existence was the possibility that an Israeli bomb would blow me into pieces, as so many hostages surely have been blown to pieces. And that is, without mentioning, the three hostages that were gunned down after identifying themselves with their hands. up as Israelis to IDF soldiers and nevertheless the soldiers opened fire and murdered those young men. This was so long ago now that it seems like ancient history only to hammer down the point that the contempt on the part of the Israeli government and the American government for the

hostages is immeasurable. These hostages are upon a genocidal project. Neither the Israelis nor apparently the Americans have any interest in stopping short of a final solution in Palestine. And this brings us to our next segment, which I think, you know, the guy we're going to talk about next, his final solution would be to level the Palestinian lands, exterminate the Palestinian people, and set up the new Middle Eastern Riviera. Trump, Gaza, as the sickening AI video called it. We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal, and I don't want to be cute,

I don't want to be a wise guy, but the Riviera of the Middle East, this could be something that could be so bad, this could be so... Donald is going to set you free, bringing the light for all to see. No more tunnels, no more fear. Trump Gaza is finally here. Right, gold and future a brand new life Feast and dance the deal is done Trump guys are number one

Trump guys are shining bright Yeah, and you know what? Should we say it here and now on the pod? I'll bet anyone dollars to donuts Within the decade we'll see a Trump-branded hotel in that region. Yeah. It seems inevitable to me.

I'll let you. pick up with this. But first, I just want to preface this discussion by talking a little bit more in numbers, this time monetary numbers. So remember that old diaper wearing dementia patient that until recently was president of the United States, genocide Joe. Genocide Joe made a real habit. of providing Israel with whatever they wanted and shouldn't put all the blame on him because obviously Secretary of State Tony Blinken who shortly after October 7th went to Israel

and in his words he went there not as Secretary of State but as a Jew to assist the government of Israel in its time of need which raises some striking questions about dual loyalty, not because he's a Jew, but because he used his power in a way that flouted international law and in so doing made him liable criminally for the worst crime on the books, genocide. We are not saying that all Jews bear responsibility for Israel. I don't know how many of our listeners will remember. I'm not going to say what kind of a religious upbringing I had. It was a Jewish religious upbringing. I'm not going to say

which Abrahamic religion I'm a party to. So, you know, it is a real problem. It is a real problem. And it's one that the person of Tony Blinken puts front and center, not to mention the fact that, of course, his stepfather who largely raised him, Samuel Pizar, was the confidant and attorney and the last person who was known to have spoken with Mossad agent Robert Maxwell, of course the father of Galane Maxwell, now doing hard time in federal. Penn for her assistance, abetting, and participation in the sex crimes of Jeffrey Epstein. So the criminal snowball, let's say, is so heavy that it's really too big to stop unless you melt it with that sunshine of truth.

And that's what we're trying to do here. Can't stop it not to be too on the nose. but take it back to Aaron Bushnell, the servicemen who lit himself on fire in protest. My man was out here doing a thick-quand-duke self-immolation, and not even that is enough to bring attention to the horrors of genocide. And that's where we are today. Right.

So the Biden admin put Congress in the back seat. they fast-tracked billions and billions of dollars of military aid to Israel. In the 12-month period after October 7th, the U.S. sent a record $17.7, $17.9 billion in aid to Israel. And this just bears taking into consideration given the slashing. cuts to social welfare spending that the Trump administration is undertaken, they have not signaled any desire to slow down aid to Israel. In fact, the opposite is true, and they keep fast-tracking weapons sales, keep bypassing Congress in the few months that Trump has been in office. The latest number is $12 billion in lethal weapons have been sent to Israel over

Neri a peep from the so-called representatives of the people of the United States. Yeah, and if anything, our representatives just continue to get gifts from the Israeli government. In the case of Fetterman, quite literally, a gift from Netanyahu, namely a silver-plated pager, which of course alludes to the massacre of Palestinians, including children. And Lebanese. And Lebanese, yeah, on that day when simultaneously, I don't know how many number of pagers, blew up without warning. Yeah, a little war crime souvenir.

Yeah. Fetterman's response was, man, this is so cool. When you guys did that, I was like, this is so cool. That guy really has fallen far. I mean, not to say he was on a pedestal to begin with, but basically his only message to date nowadays seems to be bring the hostages home. Yeah. Yeah, and I think maybe later we'll talk, we're going to talk more about the domestic

political implications of all this, but it really cannot be overstated, the degree to which the Israeli government and the Israeli lobby in the form of APAC, not to mention all of these Israel fanatics in the media. And I don't use the word lightly. I'm talking about people like Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, mainstream, quote-unquote, journalists, Wolf Blitzer as well, you know, former Israel propagandist by profession, highly placed assets. And they, again, not using the term flippantly here, using the term rather literally, both in our quote unquote our right Congress and in the media that tells us what's going on on it's assets all the fucking way down and it's so insulting and it's unbelievable that

anybody can sit by and let it keep on cycling through every two years. We know how much they're getting from APEC. We know how craven the policies that they're supporting are, and nevertheless, they are in control. And in fact, they're so in control that if you step out of line, you You get Cory Bushed. You get Bowmaned. We are lining up some extremely fascinating guest appearances in the near future that will give our audience even greater insight into the ways that this all functions in the government. And it just makes you sick to your stomach if you have any expectation that the United States is a democracy.

I think on Fourth Reich archaeology, the advantage that we bring to the table, the way that we come out of all of this grimness with some semblance of mental health is not to have that expectation, is to understand that this is the Fourth Reich. Right. But maybe, Dick, let's take it back to the transition, right? Because really what we want to talk about is, you know, what does genocide as a heuristic, as a lens, tell us about fascism,

and what does it tell us about American? politics so let's put a few more facts on the ground and i think that we already covered the fact that trump is essentially continuing the biden policy but with a few tweaks yeah so let's turn to those of course well i want to talk about the great deal maker the negotiator the the the man the myth the legend the piece of shit in office today. The artist of the deal. With his small hands and terrible hair. Let's talk about the Trump-era ceasefire, right?

The listener will recall that just days before his inauguration, a ceasefire was announced. So Trump was not even president. He was still president-elect. And there was an announcement that the Israelis and the Palestinians had reached a deal. And it happened like days before inauguration. Of course, Joe Biden was still president at the time. By the way, has anyone done a safety check on Joe Biden?

Like, I have not heard a peep since January. The last, I actually read one article today that Joe Biden was, upset because he went on the speaking circuit offering up his phenomenal rhetorical skills at the bargain price of $300,000 a pop and nobody wants to buy it to buy it. That's hilarious. I feel like 300,000 is actually kind of cheap for a former president, too. well he's obviously not going to get Obama numbers yeah but I feel like I don't know I feel like that's not even Hillary Clinton numbers no Richard Branson's insurance company wouldn't even let him

take Joe Biden on the jet ski the liability was too high but so okay but look so the ceasefire deal it happens in the way in the final days of the Biden presidency and I remember that certainly in my circles, people were saying, oh, is this deal sort of a fuck you to Trump because they landed a deal before Trump enters office? And within a few days, it became clear that it was very much a fuck you to Joe Biden, right? Yeah, I presume that that person wasn't a fourth-rank archaeology listener.

No, they were not, unfortunately. But inevitably, you know, Trump takes credit for the deal, right? And I think rightfully so, right? This was clearly a play between Israel and the incoming administration to make Trump look good, because what does Trump get out of it? He gets an immediate domestic political win, an immediate international political win. He gets to say, and he does say, on the inauguration stage, that he got the hostages home. yep he's able to appease the anti-war dupes and the actual remember a big part of trump's base the actual anti-Semitic Nazis yeah as opposed to all of those Zionist Nazis

who do exist and are certainly out there and in his electoral coalition yeah exactly exactly No other president can claim to so faithfully represent both Jew-hating Nazis and Jewish Nazis. And I think the Israelis, and when I say the Israelis, I mean the government, of course, they viewed this as a short-term sort of speed bump because also inevitably, the deal collapsed. Right? The deal collapsed in March. And in retrospect, pretty clear. the whole thing was just a sort of a farce to quiet down what was happening. Things had sort of reached a boiling point, I think, and to sort of tamp down all of the pushback the government was receiving. And, you know, ever since, it's pretty clear that at this point, the only

thing that will satisfy the Netanyahu administration, The Israeli government's thirst is what you call Don the final solution, which is, I guess, extermination and the construction of that Trump plaza on the Middle East and Riviera. Yeah. And I'll even go a step farther and say, it's not just the Netanyahu administration. You know, obviously there's a growing segment of the population in Israel that is parting ways from the administration. I don't think it's growing nearly fast enough or large enough to make any difference in the, outcome from within the belly of that beast because you see the poll numbers, you see the opinion polling, and the vast majority of Israeli society, and it must be said, is braying for Palestinian blood. I mean, it's a very deeply racist nationalism. that imbues what can only be understood as the majority, if not the vast majority of

Israeli society, you know, and all solidarity to those brave few, and the protests that I have seen have been brutally repressed, have been small, but have been certainly admirable within Israel, you know, the refusenics who declined to sign up for the IDF when their number gets called, the people that face the drenches of the police in calling for an end to the slaughter, they are few and far between, just like they are in the United States, you know, don't get me wrong it's i don't think unique to israel as a western settler colonial nation to have a largely reactionary population the united states does too the u k does too australia does too australia does too Canada does too, but in the case of Israel, you know, they are, there's nobody there that doesn't

know somebody who has murdered a child. It's statistically impossible given the sheer scale of child murder that Israel carries out. And I don't think that's the case in every other country. But it's something that it's really gut-wrenching when you sit down and think about it. I mean, it's the reason why all of the parallels are drawn to apartheid South Africa because the people with political power in the offending nation are not going to stop committing a atrocities out of the goodness of their hearts or out of some democratic accession to a peaceful coexistence. That's not going to happen. Yeah. So putting aside the criticism of Israel being a segregationist apartheid state, right?

Let's just cabin that off for a moment. Let's pretend like that isn't even the issue here. Let's just focus on the violence that has been needed out in the last year and a half. And the actual words coming from the literal boots on the ground, right? When you're referring to the enemy as the Amalek, as the historical sort of enemy of the Israelites, human animals, without any sort of distinction and saying that all of these people, every single last one are the mortal enemies of our people

like that right there and we'll get to this in a second like that is the basis of the foundation of genocidal thought right when you're saying that based on these people's immutable characteristic the very fact that they exist they are our enemy I mean, that's open and shut. So just, you know, there's a lot of pushback when people say, like, you know, it's the Palestinians have plenty of rights in Israel, and there's people who have Palestinians in all levels of government, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Like, whatever bullshit that is, put that aside.

Let's just talk about the last year and a half and what we've seen come to bear. You cannot deny that this targeted attack on a people's, Based on the very fact that they are who they are, I mean, that to me is open and shut. I mean, they know what they're doing. Right. And the evidence has piled in the terabytes and thousands of terabytes of video footage of these Israeli soldiers dehumanizing Palestinians, and not only soldiers, by the way, also civilians in Israel that don

brownface and that dress up in pantomime of what they call Pallywood. Oh, my God. The degree to which they deny the suffering of the people that they are collectively exterminating is... proof in the pudding, and it's what made the International Court of Justice, as well as really any serious, not to sound too Chomskyite, but really any mainstream scholar of genocide, of international law around genocide, call this a black and white case. call this a paradigmatic example of genocide.

Like, the only people that deny that this is genocide are propagandists who are working for criminals, for people who belong in the hague. And the number is staggering, right? It's creating a Nuremberg problem because so many people are guilty. Right. Propagandists and, of course, the perpetrators of the genocide, the people actually doing it. I think that is sort of the entire universe of people who at this point are denying the genocide. You're going to reap just what you sold.

But I suppose you already know You've got to me just knew what you sold Now tell me watchers at beginning And feel all right I want to go back to that point you made about Pollywood Because I think that is a critical one And I'm not sure that everybody fully understands What that means

And correct me if I'm wrong but this is the idea of basically saying, like, well, don't believe everything you see about the Palestinian suffering. The videos, they've been doctored, the suffering that you're seeing, this is all staged. It's not nearly as bad as it seems. And I hope that the listener can truly appreciate how dangerous that is, right? when you're at a point where you're doing so much violence onto a people's and then at the

same time saying don't believe the videos that you're seeing because these people are making it up like what else is there right and it ties into the larger socio technological forces that are at play in the consolidation of the fourth Reich which we've discussed at great length in past episodes where, you know, in the future, the line between reality and fiction is going to become even more blurred by the proliferation of AI-generated video and images. And even in this genocide, I remember very, very much. clearly when Ben Shapiro, the famous fuckhead, who we pilloried in our first episode on the show, when he was sharing a AI-generated image based on a picture of a puppy and claiming that it was a baked baby.

Do you remember that? Did you see that? Dick? Yeah. that he was saying like look at how monstrous Hamas is they baked a baby in the oven another propagandist John Podhoritz yeah yeah just utter piece of shit I mean belongs in prison certainly did the same thing of going all over social media and spouting these made up claims which will only become more common and more widely available to any evil doer that wishes to attempt to justify their misdeeds. But this is why it's so important. It's so important to keep genocide front and center, to not let the shitstorm of the stampeding rhinoceros with explosive diarrhea

that is the Trump administration distract and sideline the still ongoing genocide. That's why we're doing this episode. and that is why we encourage everyone listening not to lose sight of the fact that whatever else is going on the worst crime in the world is still being conducted by the government of the United States and that that crime and participation in that crime is a unifying thread between the last administration and this administration notwithstanding any differences around the margins as to how each one approaches it and in that respect I wanted to just quickly read in case the listener is not familiar or maybe it's been a while since you've heard

it, but the definition of genocide under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which the U.S. is a party to. And that defines genocide in Article 2 as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such. A, killing members of the group. B, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. C, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

D, imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. And E, forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Check, check, check, check, check, and check. A thousand percent. A thousand percent. And the convention criminalizes not only the commission of genocide, but also conspiracy to commit genocide, and, importantly, complicity in genocide. And that's Article 3, Section E, Complicity and Genocide. Who in the last administration and the current administration is innocent of complicity and genocide?

Who in the Congress of the United States is innocent of complicity in genocide? We are being ruled by war criminals, by international criminals. Just let that sink in. I mean, how fucked up is that? Yeah. Of course, there's a lot of talk right now about the Trump administration's assault on the rule of law and we mentioned that at the outset of the episode well again genocide is central genocide is the sun in the solar system of the legal norms that govern the so-called civilized world right and yet when the

Center for Constitutional Rights brought a case against the Biden administration and its uppermost officials to enforce the Convention on Genocide and enforce the provisions that I just read. What happened? The U.S. courts conceded that, well, yeah, it is, you know, it is plausibly genocide. We agree with the ICJ. We don't think that it was an unreasonable ruling by the ICJ to agree with South Africa's petition that this plausibly constitutes genocide. However, there's always a butt, right? The U.S. courts cannot interfere with the conduct of foreign policy carried out by the executive branch in other words the rule of law doesn't count after a point yeah and we've actually like

covered this point many times in our historical deep dives this idea of the rule of law it's really a farce right many times, whether it's the McCloy's or the Dulles's or the Jenners of the world, you see powerful lawyers essentially create, make up the law that they think should apply. And based on their stature and status in society, they're able to get away with it. And so the rule of law is really just the law that we think should apply to support our position. This attack on the rule of law did not begin on January 20, 2025. It didn't begin during Trump's first term. It's just been a part of our modern American life since day one. And for like your specific point on Israel and genocide, right, you could see the Biden and

the administration's aggressive stance against the allegation of genocide. Remember during Kamala's campaign when there were protesters, she basically told them to shut up. There is no free speech when it comes to this kind of stuff. There is no right to criticize when it comes to this kind of stuff. There is outright contempt for anyone who has the gall to call out genocide, to call it out for what it truly is, to agree with the ICJ, to agree with the many nations, with the many people who have said, yeah, it's actually

pretty bad and it should stop. Right. You don't even have to say, go as far as saying, you know, I support Hamas, which just saying that you are against what Israel is doing is enough to put you in the category of anti-Semitic terrorist organization. Right. And we said very early on in the episode, genocide is a red line in the sand, dividing the proponents of the spread of fascism

into the nooks and crannies of our everyday life versus the people who would oppose it. And the fascists, what they do, what the Fourth Reich is doing and has been doing across both Democratic and Republican administrations is to push that line further and further and further. It may be reprehensible, and it is reprehensible to level hatred at a religious group or at a religious group or at a an ethnic group. It is reprehensible to say that all Jews are part of some global conspiracy and are evil and drink Christian blood or whatever legitimately anti-Semitic crap anybody wants to say. That certainly should not be condoned in the civilized society.

but what the Fourth Reichsmen have sought to do is to lump together with those types of anti-Semitic vitriol any criticism of Israel and to close the circle smaller and smaller and smaller, because, you know, even if somebody believes that what Israel's doing is disgusting and is criminal, and they see it with their eyes, that what they're doing is horrific and is genocidal, well, if the stakes are so high that actually stating that belief exposes the person to some kind of punishment by the state, well, they're not going to express that belief. And the longer that you hold a belief without expressing it, and the stronger, the cognitive dissonance that you feel by holding a belief and simultaneously repressing yourself from

expressing that belief, well, more and more that lying little devil's voice in your head persuades you to squash out that belief in the first place, or so is the logic of fascism, that by marginalizing a belief system based on lived experience, you can eradicate that point of view from the so-called marketplace of ideas, from the discourse. You can criminalize it. You can punish it. You can deport anyone deportable who expresses it as the Trump administration is doing, right? And it cannot be stated. strongly enough that while Trump has taken it to level 11 and turn that dial way up, what did the Biden administration say when the encampments first started kicking off on college

campuses? They said it was disgusting. They said it was disgraceful. They called for the punishment and expulsion of participating students. They said it was anti-Semitic. They sold the line, the fascist line, that Trump is now operationalizing into a policy. They gave it discursive legitimacy by saying it on television, by repeating it every single day. when this ends you never cleanse all the blood from off your hands it'll stain you all the way till you're born you see you and all that you do make the world a much worse place it's a wonder you dare you dare show you face When this ends you can't pretend

That you stood for what was right When you stood on the side of genocide You thought that you could just conform To your twisted social norms all built around belief that might makes right This has to end, but you'll never mend All the damage that you've wrought Not with every dollar from every weapon bought

But right now we could take power From your paper tiger grasp Every empire must eventually collapse So just go ahead and spin your wheels You can't pay for what you steal Don't you know there are some debts that can't be paid Don't consume the spectacle Empty plastic testicles

Into the human sewer that you've made When this ends, the york's gonna bend In a just as pointed way That means you and those in power I have to pay Because when this ends We're not going to let you get away And so maybe it makes sense now

To fast forward a little bit You know, there's a lot more that we could say About this rule of law stuff I think suffice it to say that it all feeds back again into this ratchet theory of politics. Mm-hmm. You know, Brianna Joy Gray, who has the Bad Faith podcast, has been ringing that bell for a long time.

And I think it's essentially correct that the right wing pushes the envelope to a new extreme, and then when the pendulum swings the other way, essentially the liberal wing of the hegemonic two-party system just consolidates those advancements towards fascism while maybe drawing back a few of the most outrageous excesses, we've described this phenomenon as the left hand of the liberals and the right hand of the Republicans, the outright, goose-stepping fascists, and both hands are strangling the throat of the people.

Yeah. And we can use the ever-present presidential elections of the last eight years, 12 years or so as a case study. So these days, there's a lot of discourse, as there was in 2017 of the Democratic partisans, the mainstream Democrats, if you will. blaming the left, blaming progressives for Trump, right? If only you wouldn't have been so selfish, leftist. If only you had held your nose and voted for Harris or Clinton in 2016, whatever awful things are happening right now would not be happening. So it's this remarkable position that, you know, the train is going this way and we're not going to listen to you.

But if you're not on board and we fail, it's your fault. It's really like they would go as far as willing to say like, right, even if you didn't agree with Kamala, right, even if you didn't think she was the right person. for the job or whatever she wouldn't be doing nearly the extent of evil deeds that Trump is doing and we're going to call

something we haven't done in a while in this pod but I think this episode warrants it a big old heaping I'm just I'm just rev it up the motor for it yeah you got to rev it up a bit because it's we haven't

I haven't turned the key in a while, but a big, heaping, massive pile of bullshit. Oh, yeah. You smell that one in the next county. Exactly. You have to let the toilet breathe for a couple hours. Because some in substance, right, it didn't, the genocide didn't start under Trump's watch, right? The majority of it happened under Biden's watch. watch.

So it's obviously bullshit, right? Right. But just to be super duper clear, because, you know, recognizing we might even have some listeners out here who watch MSNBC and that's okay. You know, I wouldn't recommend it, but doesn't make you a bad person. It doesn't mean you're stupid. but if you do and if you are getting your hackles up hearing what we're putting down right now let us just clarify we're not saying that harris would be doing the same shit that trump is doing

that is not what we're saying in fact you know in the fantasy world where kamala harris won the presidency in this outrageous hypothetical, of course she would not be doing the exact same shit that Trump is doing. Of course she would stop short from putting out AI-generated, grotesque videos showing a golden balloon of her head before a hotel bearing her name in the Gaza a strip that has been absolutely cleared of Palestinians. Of course, she wouldn't do that, right? It's absurd to think so. Yeah, she wouldn't be sending immigrants in removal proceedings to Salvadoran torture camps.

She wouldn't be placing all of these chuckleheads in positions of power in the government. But I, again, bet you dollars to donuts. She would be incarcerating people more so than the administration before her. She would be placing folks in removal proceedings and detention at greater numbers than the administration before her. And she would be ignoring the genocide, just like the administration before her. Right. Remember, she had the opportunity time and time again. again, to distance herself from the Biden administration on any number of policy issues and

specifically on Palestine. And she chose to tell the voters that there was no daylight between her and President Genocide Joe. When she was confronted by Palestinian protesters calling for some statement against the genocide what did she tell them i'm talking essentially shut up right this is what i was saying yeah shut up and it was the the classic line right if you want trump to win keep talking about genocide yeah and and this is just drives home why the hypothetical is so absurd it's so absurd. For one, there is no universe wherein Akamala Harris makes all the political choices that she made, and then somehow because a bunch of leftists decide to hold their nose and overlook her complicity in genocide, her commission of a crime against humanity, not to mention a crime

punishable under the U.S. treaty obligations which the Constitution of the United States places as the supreme law of the land, setting all that aside, I mean, in what world could somebody who covered up the dementia of the president, who chose to run a campaign of frivolous celebrity appearances dropping millions of dollars on set pieces for YouTube videos and just ridiculous shit that is reflective of

an utter rot and an utter sense of absolutely unwarranted entitlement to govern. Who was so willing to step in the role of unelected Democratic nominee for president, right? She was giddy to do it. That's not your hero, ladies and germs.

That is not your hero. Right. And it's like this, we've said it before, and we'll keep on saying it, like, political spectacle. And that's all that elections are. Political spectacle is pro wrestling. it's pro wrestling in a fucking business suit like you see the alliances changing shape right all of these silicon valley tech bros that lined their pockets to bursting point and beyond under the Biden administration whose billions mounted on billions on billions and tens of

billions to the point where the concentration of wealth is astronomically on the rise and that rise was fueled throughout the Biden administration right they didn't switch teams because they suddenly went anti-woke they decided they made a strategic choice that the pendulum was swinging after four years this time instead of after eight years or in the very unusual case after 12 years right like it's theater it is theater trump 2.0 was gonna happen and why was it going to happen well for one because the institutional Democrat Party as embodied by the Biden administration made a very conscious choice that rather than acknowledge Israel's commission of genocide, thereby acknowledging

U.S. complicity in genocide, and thereby acknowledging the criminal liability of the entire leadership of the United States government for global crimes against humanity like that is unthinkable from the point of view of imperialist war mongers yeah just to put a fine point on this and sort of sum it up right

the Democrats would sooner choose to lose the election, then fess up and sort of take accountability for the fact that the U.S. was engaging in crimes against humanity. So better that they lose than have to sort of answer to the many millions of people in this country who are calling them out for the bullshit that they're doing abroad. Right. Because that would put the whole game in jeopardy. That would put the whole economic system in jeopardy.

I mean, the exploitation of the bottom of the pyramid for what is known as the global supply chain or whatever, right? the persistence of misery on a mass scale is necessary to the continuation of the luxurious and opulent lifestyles of the ruling class and it's a domino game right you knock over one that exposes the hypocrisy that shows what's really going on, that all of the lip service to civilization, to progress, to equality, to human rights is just for show to keep the pitchforks in the garden and not in the street. yeah you know they they can't they can't risk that and so in that way you know Kamala played the role that she was dealt perfectly perfectly she was cast as a fucking loser a fucking loser

and Trump was cast as a fucking tyrant and he's also playing the role very well but again it's like yeah yeah i was going to say he he's cast as the killer and here killer means winner right right and and that's the thing and i think that this kind of brings us full circle and maybe we can end off chatting through it a little bit the necessity for you know both sides of the coin to maintain some semblance of legitimacy before the consuming public and again it's something that we have traced in our historical excavations right this is the dynamic that persisted between the Cold War liberals right the Yale boarding school crowd of the CIA versus the Midwestern state school guys that filled the ranks of the FBI,

or actually more so than Midwestern state school guys, deep southern racists. It's the same dynamic that divided the Yankees and the cowboys, the liberal cold warriors, you know, the Kennedys and the Johnsons and the, Bundys, even, from the McCarthyites, right? Their hatred for one another was not feigned, it was not performative, but it was smaller than the overarching goal that they shared. And even in the past, genocide is the same. cipher to crack this code as like you know that movie they live the old john carpenter with the

glasses where you put the glasses on and you see the reality of the alien in that movie like the alien society well here the they live glasses are the lens of recognizing genocide and it's like You put on the glasses and you see Hoover and Dulles, you know, jerking each other off instead of wagging their fists at each other. Because clearly they were both on board for the innumerable genocidal projects that the CIA was undertaking, be it in Indochina, or be it in Indonesia, or be it in Central. America, right? There's not a peep of dissent from either side of the ledger there, but there was a pretense of ideological disagreement, and it was authentically held, I think, on the personal level, certainly, just like liberals from the Biden administration surely

hate Trump and everything that he stands for. yeah yeah and this goes throughout it's a common thread it's not just what happened in the 50s and 60s it's not just what's happening now it's happening it's been happening all along because you just take a point in time any point in time i don't know let's say the carter administration there's no doubt in my mind that the proponents the supporters of carter ideologically they were very much against the policies and the views of the Reagan administration but both Carter and Reagan were very much responsible for the disaster in Afghanistan right it started with Carter and it was escalated by Reagan it's it's not like this is something

that's happening now and it's something that happened, you know, in the time that we've covered in our sort of our historical episodes. It's something that's just been happening all along. Right. And interestingly, and this is something that you mentioned Dick before we hit record this evening that, you know, in all of these cases, it's, another unifying thread that the Imperial Corps selects ideological extremists willing to commit mass murder for their ideological positions that are the best intermediaries, the best agents of empire. So you mentioned Afghanistan, I mean, the Mujahideen were selected for their ideological commitment, their religious commitment to their cause.

Right. And that's why they came from all over the Muslim world, right, recruited by the likes of Osama bin Laden, to go to Afghanistan. And Israel bears that pattern out once more as well, given just the depth of their hatred, racism, and dehumanization of the Palestinians. And I'm not saying that flippantly saying that because the line since the days of Golda Mair is that there's no such thing. as a Palestinian. Yep. And it's not just the Israelis, and it's not just the Mujahideen.

Again, it's like literally any point in time, right? I'm talking about the cozying up to the Khmer Rouge in Vietnam. Mm-hmm. We are talking about, you can do this in Central America, talk about the Contras in Nicaragua. It's almost as if, you know, you get bonus points if you can find an intermediary

that has deeply entrenched hatred for the target group and it actually doesn't seem to matter at all that the intermediary is let's just say it would be viewed reprehensible in the American way of life right by all accounts at the time the Khmer Rouge were communists and they were very much against everything that the Western liberal democracy stood for same goes for the Mujahideen right these were Islamic fundamentalists these are folks that would not be down with the American way of life. It doesn't matter.

There are no rules. In fact, the only rule is how much violence, how much dirt can you do for us? How willing are you to serve? And what's your price? Right. Yeah. Shout out to Blowback podcast on both their coverage of Afghanistan and Cambodia that have dug in deep to those dynamics and how they actually

played out over time. I think that those guys would agree with the pattern that we are observing here. Because if you don't have an ideological commitment and, you know, and And as was the case in some Central American civil wars in, you know, several African countries where you've, the, the Imperial Corps has relied instead on mercenary forces, just doing it for the money, you don't get the same results. You don't get anything approaching stability under those circumstances. It's really not just an added bonus, but almost an essential ingredient to a long-term imperial hold over a critical geographic pivot point. And I think that ties us all the way back into the overarching theme of the geopolitics series.

where we're talking about, you know, the ways in which capital and empire work together for expansion, for control, and how big a role, not just violence, but genocidal violence, plays in that process. right the arc of history is actually more like a parabola and that parabola is the track of a intercontinental ballistic missile the direction we are taking is always going to be towards fascism under the model that we're under under the unfortunate model we've been living under for I don't know how many hundreds of years now the direction it's it's faded almost. We're going to be seeing more violence, more repression, less freedom, less democracy, even though on a superficial level you might feel that you have these freedoms. And if you do, I ask you this, maybe go out in public and start protesting the genocide and see how long that

lasts. Yeah, I mean, if this were a democracy, then presumably the fact that the majority of Americans oppose the genocide would bear some political fruit, would give rise to some viable political candidates who are basing at least part of their platform on opposition to genocide. And yet, here we are, and even, the voices coming out strongest against the excesses of Trump's fascist turn are still silent.

And I'm looking at you, Bernie Sanders. I'm looking at you, AOC. It's the price of admission to downplay the fact. Not the claim, the fact of genocide. It's the price of admission to the spectacle. People, I know, you know the definition of genocide. It is defined as a crime committed with intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

Do you think that's what Israel is doing here? What's going on right now is a horror show. We don't have to quibble about words. When you get to the word, I get a little bit queasy and, you know, I don't, but genocide. We need to be careful about that words. Let me be clear. Let me be clear. We reject the ICC's application of arrest warrants against Israel and either.

Whatever these warrants may imply, there is no equivalence between Israel and Humboldened. between Israel and Hamas. And it's clear. It doesn't want to do all the can to ensure civilian protection. But let me be clear. Contrary to allegations against Israel made by the United Court of Justice,

what's happening is not genocide. We reject that. We'll always stand with Israel. I've seen some of those statements this weekend. this weekend and we're going to continue to be very clear. We believe they're wrong. We believe they're repugnant and we believe they're disgraceful. Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis. There can be no equivocation about that. There are not two sides here. There are not two sides.

you know what if you want donald trump to win then say that otherwise i'm speaking and it sick and it sickens my stomach to think that a o'c is out here basically laying the groundwork for a 2028 presidential run to once again after Bernie Sanders has burned all of his credibility with anyone who opposes genocide because I really hate to break it to any listeners that still hold out any glimmer of a hope but Bernie is an anti-Palestinian racist and you can come at me for making that accusation but I stand by it a thousand percent because it is born out by every statement he's made including a refusal to call a genocide a genocide and if you can't do that

then you are on the wrong side of that red fucking line that is there in the sand between fascism and its opposite. So unless there's a breach, and this breach is something that I think we're going to spend more and more time plumbing in future episodes dedicated to current events.

Again, keep your eyes peeled for those episodes. keep your eyes peeled for those guests coming out here because we're coming for the institutional Democrats. It's enough of pro wrestling. And if we're getting serious about being human fucking beings that want to save the ability to inhabit this planet that we're on, you know if it's not already too late it will be very soon and i don't just say that because of climate change but also because of the expansion of the technological surveillance state into every nook and cranny of our lives like if we can't oppose genocide out in the open if we are driven into secrecy into the shadows to do that well the future is going to look a lot like the

in my opinion underrated jim jarmish movie from about 2010 i want to say the limits of control check that one out and and you know imagine your grandchild being the little mexican kid in the desert living on a pittance pointing up at the black helicopter and saying the reaction los americans los americans los americans maybe america will give way and they'll just say palantir And do you say we call this one game Yeah I mean I hate to end it on such a grim note

But you know I don't take I don't even take freedom for granted You know That's where we are, man. It's a grim time. Yeah, yeah. These are tough times.

I think if you haven't picked up by now, the point of this episode was just to get on the mic for an hour and a half and make sure the world still knows that we are living in a period of time, unfortunately, where there is a genocide ongoing. It's relentlessly... destroying the Palestinian people, the Palestinian way of life. Right.

And opposing one genocide means opposing all genocides. And opposing all genocides means opposing the capitalist world order that relies on genocide to emiserate the vast majority of. of the toiling masses of humanity spread across God's beautiful green-blue earth. Until next time, I'm Don, and I'm Dick, saying farewell, keep your loved ones close, and keep digging. to a rave outside a concentration camp. Let the flashing bright lights blind my eyes to the suffering within.

Let the music drown out all the cries with a pulse of EDM. As the MDMA hits in, Close me away. Take me on a trip upon your magic swirling ship. Apache helicopter full artillery equipped flying over the reservation and empty in a clip.

And I slip into a haze and do just what the generous is. Party in the Promised Land, we're having fun while we still can. Party through the desert night, everything will be all right. Party in the Promised Land, it's going up. according to plan, tuning out, moving in, let the genocide begin. It's the dawning of Aquarius, bring the water over here. Now I'm rolling my heads in the clouds, see the second coming near, but let's make sure that they stay scared of us because love always conquers fear.

Only here we exist, so enlist and don't resist. Yeah, we're gonna have a rave outside a concentration camp. We're gonna keep the party going till it spreads. It spreads across the map. And if you don't care to join us, you can fall right in a trap. And through the glass, we'll see you in the camp we're looking at. Party in the promised land. These vibes are getting out of hand.

party through the desert night Everything will be all right Party in the promised land It's going according to plan Tuning out and moving in Hope the party never ends Thank you.