Fourth Reich Archaeology - Fourth Reich Geopolitik 6

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

This week, we return with another installment of “Geopolitik,” our ongoing examination of the modern geopolitical landscape with a focus on matters both foreign and domestic. We would just as soon... keep building the momentum of our She Harvey Oswald miniseries, but real talk, things are getting pretty damn weird, and your boyz needed to weigh in.   We take stock of the sad state of affairs in the United States of Amerikkka in light of the Reich-coded speeches by President Donald J. Trump and Secretary of War Pete “Hog Sex”) Hegseth to U.S. military leaders.  Just last week, the War Secretary summoned all of the military brass to Quantico for untold reasons.  Rumors started to percolate that there would be a significant announcement. Perhaps a declaration of war. Maybe the formation of a new branch. In the end, this turned out to be another goofy-ass Trump rally. Cool… Trump went on his typical diatribe about Joe Biden and the “Radical Left.” He praised his own tariff policy. He praised his own ability to make peace notwithstanding his “disappointment” with Putin. He basically said the same list of six or seven things that he says literally to anyone on any occasion. And then, ominously, he suggested that Hegseth send the troops to American cities to handle the “enemy from within.”  As for the “major announcement,” that came from the Defense Secretary when he said, in so many words, that the military is in desperate need of a glow-up.  Hegseth instituted physical training and regular tests because there are too many “fatties.” He also said that drill sergeants can lay their hands on recruits and get physical with them during training. As if we needed even more reasons to send our combat-trained young men into America’s streets with knowledge of guns and a chip on their shoulder. We then turn to the news of Trump’s “peace plan” for Gaza. We emphasize the quotes around “peace plan,” because this is basically just a ploy to bribe Arab leaders into acquiescence with the genocide of the Palestinians, get the Israeli hostages back (Trump says “dead or alive”) without exacting any concessions from Israel in return, shield that Genocidal terrorist state from accountability, and pave the way to lucrative beachfront real estate deals and offshore drilling for the ravenous blood-soaked beasts of the ruling class.And all of this is happening in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination and a charged-up Republican party. With each day that passes, Amerikkka’s mainstream conservatives are looking more like fundamentalist reactionaries and are being more blatant about their white supremacist goals. It’s like 1972 all over again. Or maybe 1933?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Once it attains the stage of the integrated spectacle, self-proclaimed democratic society seems to be generally accepted as the realization of a fragile perfection, so that it must no longer be exposed to attacks. being fragile, and indeed is no longer open to attack, being perfect as no other society before it. It is a fragile society because it has great difficulty managing its dangerous technological expansion, but it is a perfect society for governing, and the proof is that all those who aspire to govern want to govern this one in the same way, changing hardly a thing. For the first time in contemporary Western civilization, no party or fraction of a party even tries to pretend that they wish to change anything significant.
Starting point is 00:01:18 The commodity is beyond criticism, as a general system, and even as the particular forms of junk which heads of industry choose to put on the market at any given time. Wherever the spectacle has its dominion, the only organized forces are those which want the spectacle. Thus, no one can be the enemy of what exists, nor transgress the omerta which applies to everything. We have dispensed with that disturbing conception. conception, which was dominant for over 200 years, in which a society was open to criticism,
Starting point is 00:02:01 or transformation, reform, or revolution. Not thanks to any new arguments, but quite simply because all argument has become useless. From this result, we can estimate not universal happiness, but the redoubtable strength of tyranny's tentacles. Never before has censorship been so perfect. Never before have those who are still led to believe in a few countries that they remain free citizens been less entitled to make their opinions heard wherever it is a matter of choices affecting their real lives. Never before has it been possible to lie to them so brazenly.
Starting point is 00:02:52 The Spectator is simply simply, supposed to know nothing and deserve nothing. Those who are always watching to see what happens next will never act. Such must be the spectator's condition. Colonialism or imperialism as the slave system of the West is called is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States Every nation in every region now has a decision to make It's one huge complex or combine.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. And this international power structure is used to suppress the masses of dark-skinned people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources. We found no evidence of conspiracy. foreign or domestic, the Warren Commission, the science. I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. In 1945, we began to require information, which showed that there were two wars going.
Starting point is 00:04:20 His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders the more easy victims of a big lie than a small one. For example, we're the CIA. See, there's so long as it's a nine. Freedom can never be secure. It usually takes a national crisis. Freedom can never be secure. Pearl Harbor.
Starting point is 00:04:45 A lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. Why you think our country's so innocent? A lot of the CIA. Now here's a model. This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. I'm Dick. And I'm Don.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Welcome back, listener, for another installment of our periodical series, Geopolitic. We are taking a break this week from our series Within a series, Shee Harvey Oswald, given the proliferation of events going on right here in our present day, in this fascist hellscape, we call the real world in the year 2025, crossing over from the summer months into what promises to be a hot autumn. Before we dive into our episode, as always, we'd like to thank all of you for the work you do for us. We depend upon you to like, rate, review, subscribe to and spread the word about our podcast in order to reach a new and growing number of ears out there in the ether.
Starting point is 00:06:33 We believe that our project is indeed worth all of these hours upon hours of love and attention that we invest into our work here, and we are confident that the more people that glom on to what we're putting down, the greater the potential that some of this analysis, historical context, and really spirit of friendship and community that we aspire to put out there into the world will catch on and spread like so much wild fire. to symbolically, metaphorically burn the horrors that destroy the lives of so many of our brothers and sisters on this earth, we would like to see those horrors cease, or at least mitigate. And one way that you can help us to grow our reach and to expand our project is to sign up
Starting point is 00:08:07 if you are willing and able to do so as a sponsor of our show at patreon.com slash forthrightic archaeology. You can find some exclusives and bonus content and what has. have you and we are going to be launching some new tiers to make ourselves more available to our patrons and we hope that you'll join us over there because we certainly do take this stuff seriously and of course we do it out of friendship and love and we also do it to hopefully make a dent in the brick wall of fascist thuggery that we are all up against. Now, Don, when you say geopolitic, is that the proper pronunciation? Well, you know, it's hard to tell if we are living in the Third Reich or the Fourth Reich sometimes,
Starting point is 00:09:18 so I never know which pronunciation to use. Now is as good as any to come back to one of these Gael. politics episodes. And don't fret, we will be back to our regularly scheduled programming soon. We got plenty more to explore in our ongoing mini-series, she, Harvey, Oswald, which is, of course, part of our broader, bigger project, Jerry World. Yeah, it sure feels like we're living in the 1970. in a lot of ways once again, you know, this eternal present, this loop of time that we seem to be stuck in just keeps swirling and swirling like a calliope, if you will, a merry go-round
Starting point is 00:10:21 that has ceased to be merry by not ceasing to go round. yeah it's it's we've said it before it's a lot like the night we're back in the 1970s and it's hard to I can't believe I'm saying it's even goofier than what the 1970s were right it's like this new permutation of this spectacle is so nuts there's really no other way to say it where and this some of the things will cover tonight like when you have the commander in chief and the secretary of defense oh i'm sorry the secretary of war addressing the military leaders and you realize that both of these guys are tv personalities it's just so wild and but we'll get into that and on the heels of the charlie kirk assassination i think as well as all this
Starting point is 00:11:25 as far as I can tell, largely manufactured distress in America's major cities. Yeah, and, you know, I would say that the stress of the cities is even more manufactured and artificial today than it was then. And this is what we're going to get into in this episode before we do, you know, one sort of baseline that we wanted to put down before we check in on what's happening here in the Fourth Reich is just to level set and think maybe not take pride, but to take a humble bow for, I see where you're getting at.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You want to, listeners, what my co-host is trying to get at is, it's time to give some credit where credit is due. Yeah, look, it brings us no pleasure to have been right about where things have been headed, about the nature of the society, the government, and the country that we as Americans, unfortunately contribute so much of our hard-earned income to supporting. But the fact of the matter is that when we told you all in our first episode now 14 months ago
Starting point is 00:13:15 that we are living in the Fourth Reich, and that's a very bad thing, I think there were some eyebrows that raised at that assertion and that really question the whole premise. And a lot of those eyebrows now have gone straight up the foreheads of their owners because the eyes are open. The people's eyes are open, everyone from your lib grandparents to your apolitical neighbors, to your sports fan co-workers, to even Stephen Miller, the Goebbels of the Fourth Reich today just openly plagiarizing actual Gerbill's speeches and owning the relationship between the American hegemonic project and the Nazi project that preceded it almost a century ago and making it almost a crime to call people Nazis or fascists and point out that reality.
Starting point is 00:14:48 As we said with respect to the Warren Commission, the cover-up betrays the conspiracy. Well, here, the crackdown betrays the calumny and the corruption at the heart of this. imperial genocidal apartheid project that would just as soon spread its tentacles all over the globe well before we go any further I think I should say the magic words let's get digging our history is filled with military heroes who took on all enemies foreign and domestic you know that phrase very well that's what the oath says foreign and domestic well we also have domestic
Starting point is 00:15:40 I've been thinking Uncle Sam it's time we went to war been so long since Vietnam tell me what you're waiting for George Washington Abraham Lincoln Grover Cleveland George Bush
Starting point is 00:15:59 and others all use the armed forces to keep domestic order in peace. Many of our leaders used the military to keep peace. Now they like to say, oh, you're not allowed to use the military. ...way too long, let's break out our submarines, blow some place to smithering. I think we should maybe start thinking about battleships, by the life. America is under invasion from within. We're under invasion from within. No different than a foreign enemy,
Starting point is 00:16:38 but more difficult in many ways because they don't wear uniforms. By the radical left Democrats, what they've done to San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles. They're very unsafe places, and we're going to straighten them out one by one. And this is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room. That's a war, too.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's a war from within. And then I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military, national guard, but military. If you don't know who to get first, you can't figure who's the worse. Why not blow them both away? They'll be careful what they say. You know what they say? We love the military. You ever see where they interview the people on the street?
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's amazing. The whole world is watching. Show the world how big your gun. Show them how to west was one, one, one, one, one, one. But let's talk about this fascist creep. The vibes are just more and more looking like Nazi Germany. It's like right in your face at this point, you know? And what's really interesting is that no one seems to care.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And then there's this. this new, young, conservative. I mean, that scares me, you know? And it's all tied to, like, Charlie Kirk and all these guys, Nick Fuentes, but it's been around since, what, the Tea Party? But I think right now what we're seeing, I think what we're going to see is a real turning point. Yeah, I mean, look, the spectacular embodiments
Starting point is 00:18:31 of the degree of fascism are on full display and it's like in one sense there's a knee-jerk reaction to not take it too seriously because it's so cheesy and over the top and cringe yeah goofy like the firecrackers and the sparklers at the charlie kirk funeral and the W.W.E. style introduction of all the speakers. And then, of course, as I mentioned, Stephen Miller, cribbing from Joseph Goebbels speech at the Horst Wessel funeral. We are the storm. And our enemies cannot comprehend our strength, our determination, our resolve, our passion. Our lineage and our legacy hails back to Athens, to Rome, to Philadelphia, to Monticello. Our ancestors built the cities.
Starting point is 00:19:44 They produced the art and architecture. They built the industry. Erica stands on the shoulders of thousands of years of warriors. Or assembling the military leaders in one room like that. It was the last time that happened. Yeah, and standing in front of the gigantic American flag, like the movie poster for Patton, starring George C. Scott. Yeah, but this time it's like standing in front of American flag while wearing a business suit with like an American flag as your pocket square. Yeah, and like Pete Hegseth, Pete Hogg Shit, Pete Hogsex, Pigfger, whatever you want to call.
Starting point is 00:20:29 him. The guy is so pathetic, so utterly devoid of any of the qualities that he's talking about. This puffy-ass alcoholic TV personality who never advanced past like a middling rank in his brief period of military service. and he has this pretense that he's like some great warrior and just because he has a crusader tattoo across his chest thinks that he's some kind of epic battle scarred killer it's like so transparently pathetic that you almost feel bad for the guy but then i mean you don't obviously and like he's presenting himself with such self-seriousness while every day his own administration is leaking horrible shit about what an unhinged creep he is it's very hard to take it seriously sometimes and in a certain respect
Starting point is 00:21:53 you know I do think that people should express the patheticness of these scumbags at every opportunity because they don't have the gravitas that they pretend to. But at the same time, that's not to dismiss them out of hand. It's a tough balance. I don't know what you think about that, Dick. Yeah, on the last point, they don't have the gravitas but it's like they don't need it anymore in this day and age right these are actors this is all a goof you know it's all make-believe they can be whatever they want and it seems to be working give it up to them wouldn't you agree oh yeah like it's totally working it doesn't matter anymore it doesn't matter anymore it doesn't matter that he gets
Starting point is 00:22:58 up there, and he says, we're going to bring in the fitness test. What does he call him, the PTs? Yeah. And he's like, we don't want any fatties, no more fatties, right? Yeah. Doesn't help, and he says that. And then the commander-in-chief gets up there, and he's like a, Donald Trump's kind of a fatty, right?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Kind of is putting it mildly, yeah. And it's like, you know, when I was a kid and people were talking about North Korea, you know, in school. It's got those vibes. But it works. Yeah, it's got those vibes. And at the same time, and the fact that, you know, that we have that association and that we hear people like Kamala Harris calling Trump a communist dictator and making the comparison to North Korea, it's also symptomatic of this tendency to invert everything. You know, you invert the fascism of the American regime by calling it communist, and you invert the spectacle of corporate power by putting all the blame on illegal immigrants.
Starting point is 00:24:23 and somehow suggesting that the economic woes of the American middle class are attributable to some combination of Joe Biden and immigrants and radical leftists and China and there's nothing too. any of that blame game it's all pure obfuscation it's all projection and inversion like the idea that the republican base that the sort of maga movement built up their whole brand on the idea of freedom and don't tread on me and small government and we want to bring the troops home and no more forever wars and now Trump just said at this rally to the generals that not only are we not going to stop the forever wars, we are going to literally bring the war home and use American cities as the proving ground for American military might. The enemy within.
Starting point is 00:26:02 The enemy within. This Trump's words. It sure is. No, this is amazing because it's what you were saying. It's these inversions and things. crashing in on each other. He's saying, let's get boots on the ground in these cities to quell descent, to tamp down descent. Yeah. And first of all, like, I don't know about your city or in my city, like, not a lot of descent downtown. You know, aside from the stuff that's going on in
Starting point is 00:26:44 LA and to be sure there have been protests but on a day to day I'm not really seeing what he's talking about. Yeah. What I've seen from the actual deployment of troops in the cities to which they have been deployed already is a lot of milling around, a lot of spectacular presence for the sake of presence you know trump was saying for example that in washington dc in the course of one month of federal presence of troops that it's gone from a war zone where you can hardly go out of your house without being attacked by violent Mad Max-style roving gangs to being the safest city in the country. And, you know, we at Fourth Reich Archaeology, we have our feelers out in many American cities. We like to keep tabs on what's going on.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And let's just put it this way. I've not heard any sane, uninterested person corroborate this vision of the chaos and order dynamic that Trump illustrates through his comments. The same goes for Chicago, the same certainly goes for Portland, Oregon, where apparently Donald Trump ordered troops to Portland, after having watched a five-year-old video clip from the summer of 2020, and he thought that it was current day. And I'm not even making that up. Like, apparently that's what really happened. There you have it.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So that's my thing. It's like this boots on the ground approach. Like, what is it even, what is the purpose, man? Like, how is it even going to play out? Like you're saying, as far as, as far as, as we know in the cities where it is happening. These are largely like out of towners, right? These are troops that aren't from the locale and don't seem like they really want to be there. Right. And I even have heard that they're getting 29 day rotations, like they're brought back home
Starting point is 00:29:28 before they become eligible for certain benefits that come with a third. day deployment so it's like is even nickel and diamonding organization nickel and diming his own fucking jackboots yeah which it didn't work out so well for Hitler and the essay I'll just put it that way anybody who follows me on Twitter will know I am always on about the Knight of the Long Knives as an analog to our current moment, making a long story short, the Night of the Long Knives was the purge of the brown shirts, the S.A. by the Nazis, and the reason for doing that was that the S.A., even though they were the most loyal foot soldiers of Nazism, who had supported Hitler for the longest time, they,
Starting point is 00:30:29 had taken to heart the socialist portion of national socialism and expected a little something in return for their efforts. They would go out, parade around the streets, beat people up, engage in all kinds of sexual deviance openly, and the more conservative elements of society, the wealthy industrialists, the landed junkers of the Reich, who were also part of the coalition, were uncomfortable with these swelling ranks of foot soldiers. And so they rounded up their leaders, killed a lot of them, and brought them into the fold of the much more are erudite, self-styled erudite murderers of the SS. I don't know that the actual National Guardsmen are anything comparable to the S.A.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Maybe ICE is actually the more proper analog, especially as their recruitment spans out to everyone and anyone who needs to cover their nut. Got to cover your nut. But ICE is so unpopular, though, you know? I feel like there's like this reputation where like no one wants to be outed as working for ICE. Like people who work for ICE, I feel like their personal lives must be very weird. And I think like historically ICE has had a recruitment problem.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So it will be interesting to see what the future has in store for that organization. But it all goes to your point, I guess our overarching point, where all of this stuff is sort of like, it's just a little askew. Like they're trying to do it, but it just looks a little funky, a lot funky. It's like a goofy community theater version of the thing. Yeah. And in fact, on that point, I think I'll read a little passage from this judicial opinion that was issued by a Reagan-appointed judge named William Young, who was overseeing a case brought by the American Association of University Professors, against the targeting of students for pro-Palestine speech, including, for example, the detention of Mahmoud Khalil and Ramisa Ozturk
Starting point is 00:33:37 and the other students who were so spectacularly and violently and without any real basis other than words that they spoke against the genocide of the Palestinians, rounded up, detained, and set for deportation. And so in his opinion, blasting the Trump administration's crackdown, which let us not forget, was a continuation of the Biden administration's crackdown. The Biden administration, which called campus protesters anti-Semitic, which picked up thousands of them. Oh, yeah. Thousands of them. Told them to shut up during rallies. During the campaign. I mean, yeah, let's not forget that point. It's not our position to let the Democrat Party off easy at all. And a relentless critique of their complicity in the apparatus of
Starting point is 00:34:55 repression. You know, they serve a real function that is distinct from that of the Republicans in this machinery that amounts to a fascist, imperial, genocidal project. Anyways, what William Young wrote is, ICE goes masked for a single reason to terrorize Americans into quiescence. Small wonder, ICE often seems, to need our respected military to guard them
Starting point is 00:35:39 as they go about implementing our immigration laws. It should be noted that our troops do not ordinarily wear masks. Can you imagine a masked Marine? It is a matter of honor, and honor still matters. To us, masks are associated with cowardly desperadoes and the despised Ku Klux Klan. In all our history, we have never tolerated an armed, masked secret police. And I would rejoin Judge Young and say until now, because notwithstanding his judicial opinion,
Starting point is 00:36:27 which has still subject to overturning on appeal up to and including by the Supreme Court of the United States, the masked armed secret police is largely, being tolerated or being ignored or being in pockets opposed, but I think that the toleration index is troublingly high, notwithstanding a few people that still believe that honor still matters as Judge Young appears to. you know what the administration's what they say about why they wear masks what like the official line is what is it to protect the agents from like radicals and like the cartels and stuff oh yeah like to protect the agent's identity from being targeted from doxing yeah they even say doxing yeah i think they
Starting point is 00:37:36 got that from bukele i think they got that from like i i do i think that's like like that's like Like, he was like, yo, that's what we say for our police. That's to protect against the gang members. And probably like the Salvadoran goon squads working for Buckele, who maybe work three days a week for the government and four days a week for the gangs that they are purportedly cracking down on, these ice guys are, I'm sure, of the same ilk. I mean, the amount of property that they're just gobbling up from the people that they're stopping, the amount of money that they're just stealing off of people in the streets.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Like, they are fucking gangsters. Yeah, so that's ICE. That's the enemy from within, so to speak. Should we turn our attention to maybe something more global? Yeah, and I'm sure we'll find a way to connect the two. History teaches us the only people who actually deserve peace are those who are willing to wage war to defend it. Well, Calvertam's a major player in the Cowboys team. He goes through the reservation drinks and gets me, man. He's going to start a war.
Starting point is 00:39:03 He's going to start a war. And he hops in his pick a pussy dance through the floor and says, I got mine. Should our enemies choose foolishly to challenge us? They will be crushed by the violence, precision, and veracity of the War Department. This administration has done a great deal from day one. To remove the social justice politically correct and toxic ideological garbage that that had infected our department, to rip out the politics.
Starting point is 00:39:47 No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship. No more division, distraction, or gender delusions. You can't do it naive and it's over. Can't get that and you turn over. We fight to win. We unleash overwhelming. overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war fighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement. Just common sense, maximum lethality, and authority for war fighters. We're empowering drill sergeants to instill healthy fear in new military. recruits ensuring that future war fighters are forged. Yes, they can shark attack, they can toss bunks, they can swear, and yes, they can put their hands on recruits. They have no
Starting point is 00:40:56 idea how ruthless we are. They think they're tough, they have no idea how tough we are. They think that they're hardcore, we are so much more hardcore than they are. And we have the entire weight of the United States government behind us. they have. They have nothing behind them. So we are going to win. They're going to lose. We need oxygen to read. Oxygen to read. They've been radicalized by Democrat Party rhetoric that describes anyone who doesn't share their warped, twisted worldview as fascists, worthy by implication, of execution.
Starting point is 00:41:42 They are using this language to mark people to put a target on them. Every time you think you're talking, you're just moving your smile. Let's bring it back to the basics. One of our foundational pillars, as we've said, in our project,
Starting point is 00:42:05 is the vehement and unrelenting opposition to genocide right that's one of our most fundamental tenets isn't it to identify it when it happens to call it out and to bring attention to it and I can't believe we're saying this but I mean how long has it been now well in a few days it will have been two years of the active genocide in Gaza, which itself is but a escalation of the longer term genocidal settler colonial project, which the founders of the state of Israel made very clear was premised on ethnic cleansing. You know, David Ben-Gurion said it himself.
Starting point is 00:43:11 We must expel the Arabs and take their places. We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population. So it, you know, the answer is anywhere from two years in the more acute sense, all the way to whatever we're at. What would Trump say? 3,000 years. Oh, yeah. They've been fighting for 3,000 years.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah, ever since they put down the Torah. So you want to talk a little bit about this peace plan bullshit? Yeah, let's start with a joke. from Palestinian guy, I know. It's a famous joke, but Yasser Arafat is in heaven. And he asks God, he says, God will there ever be peace? And God says, yes, but it won't be in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And maybe God was wrong, because it looks like we have a peace plan. Or the concepts of a peace plan. If you ask Trump, all of the air, Muslim countries are in BB is in only thing that he's waiting to hear from is Hamas
Starting point is 00:44:39 and he hopes that Hamas is in otherwise things are going to be bad for Hamas and it's this plan to I guess get the hostages back
Starting point is 00:44:55 and a ceasefire and to purportedly disarm Palestine permanently? I don't know. It just seems like one more Fugazi. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's a farce. It's a joke. And the whole, again,
Starting point is 00:45:21 it's really difficult to talk about any of this stuff as having any substantive significance at all because it's just spectacle. It's just performance and distraction. Like the scene in the Oval Office, or I don't know if it was the Oval Office or some other ugly-ass, gaudy shit-stained room in the White House where Netanyahu and Trump were sitting. And Trump is holding the phone. on his lap. Did you see that picture? Oh yeah. He's holding the phone on his lap and like the cord of the phone is
Starting point is 00:46:05 stretched over and BB is talking on the phone. He's supposedly apologizing to the prime minister of Qatar. It's kinky for bombing their their country. The whole thing is so goofy because it's like the news just came out about how the Israeli military is like literally raising broad swaths of Gaza at this point just raising the earth and then it's like these talks these quote peace talks it's like what is going on and of course if the focus is on the United States and on Israel and on these lackey Arab governments that are signing up behind this effort, which is poised to even revive the decrepit, horrific goblin corpse of Tony fucking Blair to preside over Gaza. I am old enough to remember when Trump in 2015 and 2016 during the Republican primaries in his first presidential run was winning respect from people by calling out the Bush family and their utterly corrupt imperialist war mongering on the national state.
Starting point is 00:47:48 and now he is singing the praises of Tony fucking Blair. It's so insane. And it's so disappointing is, I don't know if that's the right word, or just telling. It's just like nothing matters anymore. It's like I was saying, it's like, you know, it's the same thing about how Hogshead or whatever the fuck you want to call him. He's got no Riz. but that doesn't even matter. Where are other countries, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:22 You hear every so often a little whisper here and there about China is doing this or that to reduce its collaboration with the state of Israel. It's the biggest country in the world. It's going to be the biggest economy in the world if it's not already. And they're just not. playing a role to me what the vibe is on this is like all these countries essentially
Starting point is 00:48:56 sharpening up their knives getting ready to carve up whatever becomes of you know this new Gaza because it's over you know it's literally just open real estate at this point yeah that's what that's like the scary thing to me is like it's it's so transparently just a bunch of different economic interests whether it's the the as you say the lackeys in the middle east the few european countries france uh being one obviously the u.s whether it's just them sort of coming in and seeing how they can bring value to their shareholders so to speak. Yeah, chiming in here from post-production to note that Italy and Spain,
Starting point is 00:49:50 which had sent some ships to help the flotilla in the Mediterranean, withdrew their support as they got close to Israeli waters. I'll also note that earlier this week, the president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, did call for the creation of an international, armed force to take on Israel head to head. However, the will that is required to take on Israel, which, of course, implicitly requires taking on the United States, has been far from apparent on the global scale, and global demands remain pusillanimous. at best well of course that of the you know that in the ceasefire and bringing the hostages home
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'll say also point out that Trump said the hostages get get the hostages back whether they're alive or dead yeah which is really fucked it's really fucked up if you think about it yeah well you know he cares about the hostages as much as he cares about Charlie Kirk which is to say not at all except in as much as he can exploit them for his own personal gain. Right, of course, because the Israelis themselves have already said, you know, to the families of the victims that are undergoing this terrible, terrible fate. They're saying you should just give up hope, right?
Starting point is 00:51:37 They're saying you should expect that they're dead. which, just like many of the casualties of October 7th, there's a pretty good chance that they are dead and that they were killed by Israel. And those are firsthand accounts from the survivors too, right? Like there are survivors that are coming out and saying, like, yeah, when we were in captivity, we were scared as shit about the shillings.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. Or those three hostages that had escaped and were running, shouting in Hebrew, with their arms up towards their countrymen and got mowed down in cold blood. I mean, the Hannibal Directive is real. And it seems like nobody in power wants to talk about that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Nobody in power wants to talk about anything. I support your plan to end the war in Gaza which achieves our war aims. It will bring back to Israel all our hostages.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Dismant al-Khamas's military capabilities and its political rule and ensure that Gaza never again poses a threat to Israel. The success of this effort, my plan calls for the creation of a new international oversight body, the Board of Peace, we call it, the Board of Peace, sort of a beautiful name, the Board of Peace, which will be headed not at my request. Believe me, I'm very busy, but we have to make sure this work. the leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So we'd be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States. And we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders. And we'll have a board. And one of the people that wants to be on the board is the U.K. former prime minister, Tony Blair, good man, very good man. Hamas and other terrorist factions. will play no role in the board, but they'll play no role in the governors of Gaza at all, directly or indirectly.
Starting point is 00:54:22 After the meeting, Netanyahu said he would, quote, forcibly resist, unquote, Palestinian statehood. Netanyahu has also rejected the plan's call for Israel to eventually pull its troops fully out of Gaza. the two men ultimately refused to take questions, refused to take questions after their joint statements yesterday at the White House. Maybe here we could pivot a little bit to this idea of one more of these contradictions or inversions, namely the lionization of Charlie Kirk as a great icon of free speech. And then in the same breath, and if you so much as refuse to honor his legacy,
Starting point is 00:55:24 you'll be arrested for terrorism. so give me your Nazi sort of comparison here but you know people seem to forget or fail to acknowledge Charlie Kirk was at least to me pretty much locked in on this administration he was like an unofficial advisor or something like he was pretty high up there right like he's not like this outsider internet personality he is one of the the, I would say, the administration's media arms. Mm-hmm. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I'm just saying, like, to me, it wasn't so surprising to see the administration so eagerly glom on to that narrative of how, you know, Charlie is an American hero, and we're going to give him the full respect that a, you know, American hero deserves. Yeah. And fittingly, in reaction, Trump signed this National Security Policy Memorandum 7, which, to honor the legacy of free speech, orders all of the agencies of the federal government to investigate, surveil, and repress even further any person, organization, or group that holds views antithetical to the extreme right wing, essentially, grouped into anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, whatever the fuck that means, and a whole host of other red flags that will essentially pack everyone's opinion into a neat little box stamp.
Starting point is 00:57:25 with a swastika, with the American flag behind it. Like, I think about lately about, like, what would have happened if that happened when Biden was president? I mean, he would have probably said some shit that doesn't make a lick of sense. Come together. He'd say something like, look here now. And another thing, this is... I first met Charlie Kirk. It was 1987.
Starting point is 00:57:58 He's a good kid. Good kid. Good family. He's got a great wife. The whole thing is I don't want to get too deep into it and derail on it. Except to say that as long as all of these feckless, lying pieces of shit, insist that Charlie Kirk was some great advocate of open, dialogue and free speech, which is absolutely not true at all. The guy was a propagandist who made a career out of yelling at 18-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah, his whole thing was going out and cherry-picking, sort of inexperienced, no-nothing children. Right, which, as we said on subliminal jihad, not. to say that he should have been killed or deserved to die for that, that is not the message here. Absolutely, absolutely, definitely not the message. But the second part of that was like he would pick these kids to have a debate on and then he would carefully choose what they would talk about, right? Like there were only certain things that he would really engage on. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And if somebody brought up a point that wasn't one of his home bases, and we as lawyers know the tactic very well, right? If you get asked a question that isn't good for your position in an argument by the judge, you pivot, right? You find a way to bring it back to your home base point of argument. And that's exactly what he did. And it's not like it's particularly difficult to do that. and it's especially not particularly difficult to have a set of canned talking points
Starting point is 01:00:03 to spit out in rapid-fire succession on command either. The thing is, is that actually none of these people engage in anything like real debate or dialogue. And it's a marker of our era. You know, we talk about comparing the present day to the past, the 70s, or whatever previous decade. And one of the things that's actually very different is the utter absence of that kind of engagement, of substantive engagement and dialogue and discourse. Like, even fucking Bill Buckley could chop it up and would go and sit on the stage with a Gore Vidal or whatever. And, you know, he was a fascist.
Starting point is 01:01:07 He was, he was an asshole. He was a bully. All that you like. But he would take the questions and stand by a position. And it seems like today, the only people who actually do that sort of discourse are the growing ranks of mask-off Nazis who will look at you right in the eyes and with their full chest say, well, we need to get non-whites out of our country because this is a white country and it was made for whites and it was made for the advancement of the white race
Starting point is 01:01:52 and the Christian religion and anybody that's not on board with that doesn't belong here and we use whatever means necessary to expunge them from our body politic. Yes. And also no more fatties. Except for the Supreme Leader, he can be fat.
Starting point is 01:02:13 But actually, he's not fat. He's in great shape. It's actually so funny because Trump, he still does have that juice where he can talk shit about people who use Ozempic and nevertheless flank himself with just the gallery of body horror characters like Cronenbergian figures like Laura Lumer
Starting point is 01:02:39 and the Mar-a-Lago-faced women. That look where you can't really tell if they're like, are they 55 or are they 75? Yeah. Yeah, Judge Janine, you know, with her skin as taught as a inflated basketball. And then Bobby brainworms with his anabolic steroids. It's amazing. Yeah. I guess some people might misconstrue this as like we're saying we're just talking about women. Like it's both men and women where this look where they're, this look where they're,
Starting point is 01:03:21 It's like, they could literally be a hundred and twenty-five years old, and you could not tell. Well, yeah, and even Pete Hoggshit just called for the construction of a makeup studio in the Pentagon so that he can look his Fox News best for the cameras. It's the warrior mentality. He needs a makeup artist for the war paint. You know, the beefeater takes its toll. on the cutest after a while. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Look, I've been saying Trump's a big fat fatty, but actually, to be honest, I think these days I'm kind of worried for the guy because he isn't looking so great. And he almost looks a little frail. The suits are looking a little baggier. Certainly his speech has never been shittier. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 it was nuts listening to him in this latest one where he's just like rambling about what Biden Putin it's like he's in these loops of conversation where he just he he latches onto something and then before you know it he's back at talking about Biden somehow yeah and we were talking about this a little bit earlier that the kind of best timeline for Trump that he'll just start reverting in his mind into his memory palace and start calling Stephen Miller Roy and confusing him with Roy Cohn and yeah he starts thinking it is the 1970s Roy why don't you why don't you rub my feet the way you used to Roy Stephen Miller
Starting point is 01:05:21 immediately the blood will flow straight to his shaft as he doffs the presidential footwear Yeah Let's have a sleepover Like we used to
Starting point is 01:05:35 Mr. President, did I ever tell you About the time with Joe McCarthy I don't know why I made Stephen Miller sound like Gerald Ford It is the same sort of thing it's kind of like a Dr. Evil thing, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:52 No, you have to, like, jud out your lips, like Alec Baldwin's Trump impression. Yeah. Like, ISIS, the greatest fighting force that this country has ever seen for the domestic terrorists. Radical leftists, Islamist, Hamas sympathizers, illegal hordes. Right. Medium shot of. of Trump in the executive quarters. His feet are on an ottoman.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Stephen Miller's taking one slipper off at a time, rubbing his feet, and then like pan out. We are so much more hardcore than they are. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's not looking so great. The latest speech to the military leaders is, it's all just so goofy, man. It's hard to believe. And it's hard to believe that the Democrat Party is doing. nothing. No clear plan. It's sort of like how the Republicans were in, what was it, 2008,
Starting point is 01:06:58 right, at the end, after Obama. Yeah, it was kind of like that, but at the same time, like, they got right to it, right? I mean, this is the thing with the Republicans because they have no qualms about being a mendacious front for the ruling class. Right. This is the party of Nixon. Yeah. There's a tradition. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So they astroturf the Tea Party into existence and sweep the midterms in 2010. And that total majority that, that Obama controlled just evaporates and the rest of his presidency is again just this utter disgrace of a spectacle of progressive values and essentially while being the deporter in chief, while ramping up the war in Syria, while paving the road to the war in Ukraine, all this shit. I mean, let us not forget the coup in Honduras in 2009, with thanks and a hat tip to Hillary Clinton for pulling that one off.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I mean, the acceleration of fascism under Obama, is so effective because it flew so under the radar. Like, that's how this stuff works. You have the barking carnival-esque Republicans hollering their lungs out about the communist Obama presidency. They'll turn you trans in the bathrooms at school. Yeah. they're saying shit like that meanwhile Obama is consolidating the immigration plan
Starting point is 01:09:20 yeah and just dashing all of the steps that would have been necessary to mark a break with the criminal Bush administration not least of which is his immediate commitment to look forward and not backward on accountability, which brings me back again to the genocide and this peace plan that at the end of the day, it's a big distraction and a diversion to take accountability off the table. You know, the idea that this peace plan is doing some kind of a favor to the Palestinians, rather than stealing from them their entitlement to any semblance of justice
Starting point is 01:10:23 for the crimes that have been committed against them. And it's all just like the hypocrisy is so rank. And it goes back to this to bring our old friend Guy Debord back into the conversation. you know he talks about this notion of unanswerable lies as one of the prime characteristics of the integrated spectacle and about unanswerable lies he says the simple fact of being unanswerable has given what is false an entirely new quality at a stroke it is truth which is almost everywhere ceased to exist, or at best, has been reduced to the status of pure hypothesis. Unanswerable lies have succeeded in eliminating public opinion, which first lost the ability
Starting point is 01:11:26 to make itself heard, and then very quickly dissolved altogether. This evidently has significant consequences for politics, the applied sciences, the legal system, and the art. And, I mean, what more can you really say? The lies are unanswerable unless and until the people that are saying them are made to answer for them. And the question of how to do that, I think, is the big one that is a generational question and one that has quite a bit of urgency and really oughtn't be. put off the way that, say, the Democrat Party would put it off and just ride it out till 2028 and hope that fucking Mayor Pete or whatever can beat J.D. Vance.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, I don't know, man. I think I'm always, I don't have as much hope as you do, certainly not these days. I feel like, maybe much like our 38th President Jerry Ford felt in the 1960s, like, the Dems don't have any shot anytime soon. I don't think that there's really a shot for any sort of other real movement within the two-party system. And I feel like this slow creep in combined with, like, the apathy, the general apathy and sort of alienation of social relationships. We've sort of passed the point of no return.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And the next 50 years or so are going to look pretty fucked up. And I don't know what the answer is. Maybe it is more avant-garde art movements, situationalist movements, just much like, you know, keep de bored in his crew, were thinking about way back when maybe it is you know doing things that sort of bring people to a reawakening to get them to confront the sad true fact of their lot but as we've said before on the show it's like the commodification and the general i think every day sort of
Starting point is 01:14:10 sort of basic comforts, they make that increasingly difficult, right? We're in a country where people are both malnourished and overfed. There's this famine of the soul, but we have basically everything at our fingertips to occupy our every moment. Yeah. I mean, I think one step along the way is to understand with no frills the end point in the logic of all of the people who purport to lead or rule our society. For example, the tech billionaires and their data center imperialism in the United States that seeks to suck up all the water, jack up the electricity prices, drive down the quality of life in the areas surrounding these AI slop factories, what they want for all of us is to
Starting point is 01:15:32 basically crawl into virtual reality pods, not that different from what the Wichowski sisters envisioned in the Matrix movies, where you are being pumped for your life force while living a dream, essentially, that is real, except that the billionaires will be living in the real world whether in their bunkers on their private islands or whatever and keeping everybody else away from their shit and i think most of the middling political class is looking for a spot in the bunker you know it's kind of like dr strangelove really and that goes for both of the parties. You know, maybe there'll be a Christian bunker
Starting point is 01:16:38 where you can have righteous gemstone-style W.W.E. Church services with pyrotechnics and shitty music. There will be some variety in what's on offer. There will be a woke bunker, perhaps. Maybe Jack Dorsey will sponsor a little woke bunker where you can do self-discovery and guided meditation. And meanwhile, the vast, vast masses of humanity
Starting point is 01:17:17 in these people's utopian vision will be reduced to their biological elements. And it doesn't seem very attractive. But I think that a lot of the young people that are growing up online today are sadly confronted with such a shitty world. And it's so venal and empty, too. You know, once upon a time, there was something kind of inspiring about the propaganda on offer. and today it's so empty and disgusting that it's like well what the fuck do i care i want to play
Starting point is 01:18:06 minecraft or whatever if i was in the matrix i would just take the blue pill and you can't blame them really for that unless you know we take the opportunity to try and give them something inspiring to look up to and this is where i would put on my optimist hat and point to the brave souls aboard the flotilla on route to Gaza right now. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. The largest flotilla of its kind in all of history, I believe. Yeah. I didn't even realize it was like 500 people. Yeah, many, many. Many ships. Many ships. I mean, if you've seen the footage, this is a good thing to bring up, man.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I'm glad you did. It makes me feel good. This is the human spirit from many countries, individuals rolling up. I want to ask you this. For those that the people sometimes they say like the Palestinians are the Nazis in the discourse, right? You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. When they say like the Hamas, they're the Nazis.
Starting point is 01:19:23 In what world? Was there this sort of humanitarian, civilian push from all these different countries to help the Nazis? Oh, man, it's so insane. Like, those people... Did that ever happen in World War II? I don't think so, right? You had the America first crowd in the U.S. filling Madison Square Garden. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I'm talking about groups of individuals banning from all. different countries in the quote free world quote and deciding they're going to go help the Nazis as pure projection it's insanity and in fact it at this point in time is psychotic I don't know what else to call it I have a acquaintance not a friend but a guy who is a Brazilian Jew who commented on an image of the Italian dock workers rallying and striking in support of the flotilla, which is another of these rays of light in a dark world that I take some hope in. And he said, this is just like Mussolini's times.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I was like, what the fuck world are you living in, man? Well, he's right. It is like Mussolini's times, but not in the way he thinks. Yeah, just not the way he. So we're on the same page there. Yeah. I guess maybe my other thing is the kids, the college kids, the university students. They're the other thing that I think keeps me going, despite everything that is thrown at them.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. They are the loudest voices, it seems, on this issue. Yeah, and, you know, we've got to call out Cornell, the latest in the Hall of Infamy. Did you hear about that? The professor. Yeah, yeah. Renowned professor on this subject. And Jewish guy, right?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, Jewish professor named Chafetz. He had a former member of Israel's Unit 8200, the surveillance unit that is a computer science PhD student who, for some reason, enrolled in this guy's class, and this guy specializes in the study of colonialism and genocide, right? Right. I'm sure the course description sort of laid out exactly what they were going to be talking about. So this student joins this class, starts recording everybody, and diverting the discussion,
Starting point is 01:22:38 not even doing the readings, and just making conflicts in. the class the professor says hey buddy you should unenroll from this class and the guy of course secretly recorded the professor as well and got the guy fired or not fired sorry suspended without pay for a period of time and it's now being appealed to the president of the university who is on record as having said that he thinks this guy... The professor. Yeah, the university president was talking shit about this particular professor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I wonder what Cornell's recording policy is. Like, I bet Cornell has, like, you can't do that in their handbook. Yeah. But again, in university after university, in all across the media, whether it's the TikTok consortium buying up channels to supplant reporting with Zionist propaganda, whatever it is, they are going to pull out all the stops, and this was another thing that we got into a little bit in our subliminal jihad episode, but I do think that the way to confront this
Starting point is 01:24:15 is not cloaked in irony and dirtbag vulgarity to rebut the faux puritanism of the right wing. I think it's actually time for that old sincerity, solidarity, love for your fellow human beings. Yeah. Because if you do that, then you can meet them on their own playing field and say, fucking, okay, Erica Kirk, if you forgive this guy and you love your fellow beings, so much, then why do you support genocide? Yeah, I'm there with you.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I think we got to get back to the basics. I think we got to all really agree on the basics. You know, people should start talking about how it's hard to keep up with the bills, talk about how it's hard to get into that secure path to home ownership, to pay off student loans, to handle their health care, all of these things that every single one of us, no doubt, deals with, figuring out how to make ends meet. We're all going through it, whether you are on the left or the right or in the middle.
Starting point is 01:25:51 It is only those very few who are telling us to fight each other. they're the only ones not going through it and I think that's a really good point it's like let's try and find that common ground that we as a body as a community that we all share and that's not to say to pull your punches when it comes to the enemies of humanity you know the critique must be always relentless and with the likes of ice or occupying troops in American cities who have no right to be there under the plain terms of the norms and laws of this country the likes of which Judge Young's ruling spoke to a lot of people think the way that he does. So even though we here on Fourth Reich archaeology, dig even deeper and
Starting point is 01:27:04 find the rotten core of genocide and enslavement at the heart of the American settler colonial project, the garments of democracy, justice, and equality that animate people's good feelings towards the community of this country are sincerely held and I guess that's what I mean, you know, rather than always going straight to the rot at the core in order to break with people that may have a different point of view start with what's on the surface that common ground because justice is good
Starting point is 01:28:10 equality is good yep this is the good is a good point to have an asterisk here there is one hard rule no hate right you don't have to meet someone who's an absolute fucking Nazi where they are. If someone is spewing out hatred, racism, bigotry, you know, the things that really make you, you know it when you see it, everybody knows it when they see it, that venom that's got no space in the discourse. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:49 and you know if you don the uniform of the gestapo known as ice then you are wearing your hate on your chest you know it is like a clanhood at this point in time it is tantamount so all support and i'll just put one more shout out for the brave out there that are confronting um filming ice and stopping ice from carrying out its brutality on the people of this country and doing so with the blessing of now the Supreme Court thanks to the recent decision penned by Brett Kavanaugh that racial profiling is open. Okay, as long as it's not only based on ethnicity, but on some combination of ethnicity, employment, language, whether speaking with an accent or in a different language, and
Starting point is 01:30:06 location in a place where illegal immigrants tend to frequent, right? Brett Kavanaugh and the majority of the Supreme Court have blessed the arrest of people for nothing more than some combination of those factors. In other words, by a band of ICE agents that the lower courts were calling, you know, roving troops, roving the cities looking for trouble. yeah masked secret police exactly so there's a there is that disconnect and you know you've got to be aware of where there are some people who do exercise some power in the society with sympathy towards the cause of justice and to make common cause with such people and
Starting point is 01:31:11 wedge such people away from the collaborationist Democrat Party, which is as unpopular as the Republicans. And increasingly so among good-hearted people that are just fed up. You know, even MSNBC watchers. We know them in our real lives. they may be in our families and we see them pulling their hair out because they can't anymore with these feckless Democrats that can't find their backbone and so somebody's got to step in and be that backbone and you know we hope that that's you listener we hope that that's us We strive to live what we preach here on the pod,
Starting point is 01:32:16 but it has got to be a mass, mass project, not one of a small number of people, not one that is premised on some top-down takeover of institutions. it's not going to be easy and it probably it probably won't happen if we're being realistic, but better to strive for that than to walk into the fucking ovens. We got to try. We got to try. We got to try. What do you say? We call it. Let's call it.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Down with fascism. Down with the collaborators. Down with the fascists. How sweet it would be. To not have a break. After the victory, as always. As the commander,
Starting point is 01:33:30 Che Guevara, always in pursuit of victory. Until next time, I'm Dick, and I'm Don, saying farewell, and keep digging. I don't know I'm going to be I'm going to I'm going to I'm
Starting point is 01:34:14 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm on the I'm I'm going to be.
Starting point is 01:34:23 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm going to be able to be.

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