Fourth Reich Archaeology - No Thanks

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

This week, we are getting back to the real roots of our project, which was initially conceived from Dick and Don's long phone conversations about current events. And that's largely what this e...pisode is: we're out of the studio and back on the phone, real low-fi style.But the substance of the conversation, we hope, will not disappoint. We cover the reasons why we're not releasing a full on polished episode like we usually do, and dive right into the hellscape that surrounds us this holiday season, focusing on the latest deep event: the shooting of two national guardsmen in Washington, D.C., by a CIA-trained Afghan national. It's Programmed to Kill all over again.We hope you enjoy, that you stay sane this Thanksgiving and beyond, and that maybe - just maybe - you can use some of what we're putting down to break your friends and loved ones out of the haze of propaganda that has us all sleepwalking into yet another hot war on the flimsiest of pretenses to steal and exploit another country's national resources. We're thankful for you, and we wish you all the best.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Colonialism or imperialism, as the slave system of the West is called, is not something that's just confined to England or France or the United States. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. So it's one huge complex or combine. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. And this international power structure is used to suppress the masses of dark-skinned people all over the world and exploit them of their natural resources. We found no evidence of conspiracy, foreign or domestic, the Warren Commission, the science.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I'll never apologize for the United States of America. America. Ever, I don't care what the facts are. In 1945, we began to require information which showed that there were two wars going. His job, he said, was to protect the Western way of life. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders the more easy victims of a big lie than a small one. For example, we're the CIA. Now, he has a mile.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He knows so long this is to die, afraid of we never be secure. It usually takes a national crisis. Freedom can never be secure. Pearl Harbor. A lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. Why you think our country's so innocent? This is a day.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I have a national bloomin. This is coming. With that fourth Reich is coming. Archaeology. This is Fourth Reich Archaeology. I'm Dick. And I'm Don. You may notice, listener, that we sound a little bit different than we usually do.
Starting point is 00:02:03 That's because we're not in studio on this Thanksgiving day. We are in our respective vehicles, safely parked, miles away, and miles apart. And miles apart, perhaps from you, listener, but nevertheless close to you, as we are want to be at all times because we love you. We are thankful for you. And we are so happy to be able to bring you this fresh turkey on the big day. Dick, what's up, man? How's it going? Hey, man. How you doing? I would say we're far apart, but we are connected at the heart. There's a fiber optic high speed cable running through, you know, from my heart, all the way to yours and all the way to every one of you, dear listeners. And we are doing this, I'll say guerrilla style, because we had a catastrophic error in our production this week.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We were planning on bringing out a new episode, actually a new series where we are going to be covering legal regimes and legal systems in the law and we're really excited to bring all of that to you we're calling the series down by law we're very excited to bring that to you and we were planning on releasing it a day early and unfortunately our producers mucked up the uh the draft and when i say our producers i mean me I had a really rough night last night. Really, you know, listener, we are just two guys here, just Dawn and I, and we're not really, I will say, savvy.
Starting point is 00:04:00 When it comes to the production side of things, we're lucky enough that we're able to do it, I think, well enough. But, you know, the old version control got me. I opened up the wrong last final place. file and recorded right over it. So we will be bringing a new series for you all. It will be called down by law. And hopefully it'll come out in, I don't know, what do you think, Don, the next week? Yeah, you know, soon enough. It will be out as soon as we can get it ready. And I think it will definitely be ready. If not, sooner by our normally scheduled production.
Starting point is 00:04:47 publication release schedule for next Friday. But we have not missed a single week in all the whatever we're up to now, 70 some odd straight episodes that we've put out. And we're not about to fucking start doing that. We are not about to let you all down. Fresh content week after week and we thought look it's thanksgiving thanksgiving doesn't mean really shit to me uh so i figured why not just get on the line and do this thing gorilla style that's right that's right and actually you know it just so happens that the universe provided us with a great little bunch of content that both ties in to our upcoming series down by law especially our first episode, which is going to focus on immigration law and asylum in particular.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And, of course, I'm talking about the very recent, it was yesterday, Wednesday, that event that an 29-year-old Afghan national allegedly shot two National Guardsmen in Washington, D.C., in the neighborhood nearby the White House, and as of this recording, I believe that they're both still in critical condition, but I've heard varying reports that at least one of these National Guardsmen, a young woman, is likely to not make it. and it will likely be a fatal injury that she suffered from that gunshot. So, you know, while we certainly do oppose the occupation of U.S. cities by the National Guard, and we encourage all members of the armed forces to disobey their orders,
Starting point is 00:06:52 their unlawful, unconstitutional orders, to violate basically posse comitatus and engage in domestic law enforcement activities unlawfully and without any justification, we nevertheless, of course, do not hold that against the individuals in question and hope for the best for these two young, very young people that have been hurt and that may lose their lives. After all, you know, as we said in a previous episode, these National Guardspeople are mostly not doing shit in the cities they're deployed to. Yeah, and the unfortunate thing, and actually I don't know much about this story, I read the headline, so I'm interested to hear what you have to say on it, Don.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But the unfortunate thing from my account, from what I'm looking at, it sounds like this is a thing that is nothing new. And by that I mean the person that is alleged to have done this, They're an Afghan national. I think they had some connection with the military or intelligence in Afghanistan. And part of all of this, part of the reason they're here is because of the work they did in Afghanistan and they were, you know, they migrated to the United States. And part of it, part of the violence, at least the justification for the violence seems to be that this person got really messed up by all the violence that he saw. in Afghanistan, and it's this classic tale of someone who was put into the machine,
Starting point is 00:08:36 put into the maw of the military industrial complex and was basically had to serve in this system, and it really, it fucked them up. Yeah. So I have had a little bit of time to read the various articles that have been ripping off the presses in the last 24 hours. And to sum it up, and the listener may already know this, but the alleged shooter was a part of a unit called 03. And there are these zero units that are effectively death squads that were activated not in the military command structure, but directly under the CIA in Afghanistan, and they just so happen to increase both in number, in funding,
Starting point is 00:09:33 and in brutality and lethality under that administration of your parents' favorite president, that's right, Barack Hussein Obama, as part of the effort to lower the military boots on the ground footprint in Afghanistan, Obama really ramped up the use of these kill teams and particularly the use of night raids to execute so-called suspected terrorists. But as we all know, the way that they get their names of suspected terrorists is oftentimes through innuendo, through torture, through threats. military-aged man or even not you know i was reading an intercept article from 2020 that discussed some of these zero units and some pretty good research on their activities and a lot of them were going into these islamic schools and mosques and places where especially young boys would stay and study and they were understood to be you know quote unquote recruitment grounds for the Taliban and they would just go in there and murder these little kids you know eight nine 10 year old kids by the dozens by the hundreds and you know adding it all up by the thousands and this is the type of activity that the alleged
Starting point is 00:11:12 DC National Guards shooter was engaged in so you could imagine why that would fuck up somebody's mind. And it's the old Dave McGowan program to kill thesis, right? That not necessarily that the act that he conducted in Washington, D.C. was string-pulled, was directed by his old handlers in the CIA. But at least that his activities for the CIA led inevitably to this psychotic break. Apparently, he had become addicted to drugs. He was just totally beyond messed up. I think he drove all the way across the country to D.C. He wasn't an area resident to conduct this shooting. And, you know, as McGowan's book, Program to Kill Traces, a lot of serial killers, a lot of these real brutal, violent headline-making.
Starting point is 00:12:18 men of the post-war period of American history have a background in military training and especially in the deliberate and ordered conduction of atrocities on behalf of the American Empire. And of course we know in Afghanistan, you know, besides so-called fighting the war on terror or whatever bullshit explanation we were fed, the CIA was up to a lot more, including, you know, narco-trafficking with the opium trade, booming, and so much more. You know, human trafficking, illegal, robbing of minerals and mining sites, and, of course, the creation of these networks with other death squads and other paramilitary groups that are still there in country, that are still corruptly working with the buttoned up part of the
Starting point is 00:13:30 global capitalist system to keep those materials flowing in, to keep the commodities feeding into the machine and those are the inputs and the outputs as we know all too well are death destruction and murder and the fallout like dick what do you think we can expect will happen right now i was going to say so the tragic thing of course this there's an acute tragedy here which is there's two people that are in serious condition and there is this tragedy that befell on this person that came to the point where they thought that they had to do this horrific act. But there is the broader tragedy of what's going to happen next, right? The last thing we need in this climate is for something like this or something like the Charlie Kirk thing to just be the
Starting point is 00:14:26 flag that these right wingers really rally around and they use it as the justification for saying, hey this is how fucked up things have gone these are servicemen if there are people in this country that are willing to attack servicemen well then we really got to ratchet things up and you know i think about the shit that people say people said when charlie girk got killed where they're like okay can we stop calling people Nazis now because these are the consequences and it's like you're totally ignoring what is going on and you're going straight for Straight for the points for your base, right? You're saying, okay, well, this is the consequence of calling people fascists and calling people Nazis is that there is some violent act.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And I am quite honestly really scared at this point about how this can be used as ammunition in the coming weeks and the coming months to really ratchet things up. Yeah. Yeah, it's classic strategy of tension. And you've already seen a lot of right-wing elected officials and pundits referring to this as yet another act of radical Islamic terror or whatever when the opposite is true, right? I mean, this guy was working for the CIA to kill radical Islamists. He is kind of the opposite of a radical Islamic terrorist because his whole bailiwick was ill. eliminating little religious boys and killing, you know, imams and Taliban-affiliated people suspected under whatever circumstances of terrorism. So it's a total, total miss for somebody like every JFK researcher's favorite honeypot, Anna Paulina Meyerhofer, aka Anna Paulina Luna,
Starting point is 00:16:29 the German national, the German, you know, of German ancestry masquerading as a Latina and doing bikini photo shoots. Is she the one, she went to Turkey or whatever to do plastic surgery? Is that the one? Oh, no, that's, no, I think that's Laura Lumer that you're thinking. Laura Lumer. No, no, Anna Paulina, you know, maybe her looks are natural. But her political schick is absolutely cooked up in a lab. And it just continuously boggles my mind that all of these JFK researchers who are interested in exposing deep state lies and assassination histories would line up behind this evident Nazi, who is now calling for the death by firing school.
Starting point is 00:17:25 of Muslims in America. So fuck you, Anna Paulina Luna. This is not a Muslim or an Islamic thing. And it's just so once again, tragic comic to see the same fucking playbook repeated over and over and over again. And God help the brothers and sisters with brown skin or who are observers of the Muslim faith
Starting point is 00:17:59 to protect themselves against what will apparently be yet another round of this backlash by white Christian nationalists who do control our government. And also, God help, the many beneficiaries of the very subject of our nationals, next episode on asylum because the other big takeaway that I've seen so far is that this guy got in to the country on asylum. And that is absolutely unsurprising because, of course, the United States typically makes a path to residents in the United States for those who assist in its imperial war-mongering efforts in their home countries. And not surprisingly, because in their home countries, they would be the targets for retribution by the government.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I mean, the Taliban is the government. And this guy was a CIA-trained mass murderer who targeted Taliban. So, you know, of course he's got a legitimate threat of fear of murder in his home country, and therefore, he is eligible for asylum protection in the United States unless he meets the exception of having committed a crime in his home country. And I actually, interestingly, the New York Times reported today that at least one case for asylum had been denied to one of these members of the Zero Squads in Afghanistan on the basis of their activities for the CIA. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And I should say that the, so this trend, the tradition of providing asylum to the people that are coming from the region or the country that you've done all this damage to, that's, of course, that's a tradition that goes back years and years and years, right? You think of Vietnam. This happened. Think of Iraq. Think of Afghanistan. It's, you think of Cuba, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And, you know, you say that they make a path, but the reality is, is that, like, they very much leave many of these people out to dry back in home country as well, right? It's not like they are doing a very good job of getting people out of these countries. They are, of course, like superficially, if you want to say, or as a matter of a, you know, ornamentally trying to make it seem on the world stage that, you know, yeah, we are going to do right by them. But if you actually dig into it, you see that there are many such instances where someone is, you know, left out in the cold. Right. And both paths ultimately lead to violence against the imperial forces in this strategy of tension pattern, right? whether it's the people like the ISIS remnants who were left behind after kind of helping out the imperial forces in Iraq and Syria that when they were part of Al-Qaeda and then turning into ISIS and targeting forces and U.S. personnel out there in the Middle East. or the cases like this, Afghan yesterday, of which there are many other such cases as well.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So the real moral of the story should be, the real takeaway ought to be, don't commit imperialistic, war-mongering atrocities all over the world. There would be no problem to solve if you didn't do that, right? And of course we know that that problem isn't going to be, they're never going to get to that one. And so what are they left with? They're left with the situation where they're constantly trying to patch up a hose on one end. And what's happening is the water is just shooting out the other or something like that, right? It's just become this wave that keeps crashing in on itself.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And every time it creates a new wave and a bigger wave and something more spectacular and something more horrific. and it goes on and on and of course let's not forget that every time that happens we have another opportunity to spend tens millions hundreds of millions billions of dollars and another war and generate more excess profits out of that whole thing so yeah unfortunately it seems like like we said it's a you know tale is oldest time this is an old playbook this is a a thing that has happened since the 1950s at least of course before that there was shit like this going on but certainly since the post-war era this really a pattern of what i don't know every eight years every 10 years of just rinse and repeat yeah yeah and it's also going hand in hand and well first
Starting point is 00:23:31 last point on the asylum issue that one thing and dick maybe you didn't see this yet but But one thing that is being said is this is a Biden asylum case and it's a Biden allowed this guy into the country and all this stuff. And that is, I thought you would get a kick out of that because it's just a joke, right? I mean, the president or the administration doesn't at least theoretically grant asylum or not grant asylum. It's a bureaucracy that is theoretically shielded from the changing political winds in the U.S. citizenship and immigration services, USCIS, the agency that handles immigration applications. And so to call it a Biden asylum, I think, is another red flag that this is bullshit. It's a red flag, but at this point, I think it's a classic one, right? everything is a Biden thing. Even if it's not a Biden thing, it's a Biden thing. I mean, if you talk to
Starting point is 00:24:39 Trump, if you listen to Trump for more than two or three minutes, Biden's name's going to come up. It doesn't matter who he's talking to, what he's talking about, right? I'm sure today, or I didn't watch the turkey pardon, but I'm sure Biden's name came up. The last turkey that Biden pardoned went on to kill a whole family. Beautiful girl, blonde, blue-eyed. Pect those blue eyes right out. A little on the younger side. I like them young, a little on the younger side.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it's, please, this Thanksgiving as you sit around the table and your TV watching relatives start talking that bullshit. Don't be shy to correct. their misunderstandings based on whatever they're seeing on that idiot box because good lord i was listening to a little bit of it myself and it is mind-nummingly infuriating the depths of propaganda and the just sheer number of false assumptions baked into any single sentence that
Starting point is 00:26:03 these fucking people speak it's it's insane it's outrageous and you know right when you're willing to say and do anything as a matter of convenience just to keep going it's just it's become such a momentum based process such a momentum based culture where literally at any moment any day they could say literally anything and that'll be the truth and i'm not just talking about the trump administration I'm talking about all of these so-called leaders, all of the people that are what we've affectionally called the powers that be. It's like the only thing that matters to them is the extraction accumulation of property, the consolidation of private property. And, you know, if there are human rights concessions that they have to give on any given, you know, issue, if they have to do that, they'll do that as a matter of convenience. But if they can completely keep out an entire population out of that calculus, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:06 okay, these people, for example, Muslims, they're subhuman. So when we talk about rights and all that shit, we don't really mean them. If they can do that, they will 100% do that. Yeah. And, you know, earlier I said, I hedged to not say that this hit on the National Guardsmen was orchestrated. by any deep state actors, you know, that I've not seen any evidence that it was. And I don't think that there's nearly enough information to make a judgment about that. But of course, it's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I think that is probably at this stage, like, irrelevant because what do we, we know that this is a guy who's a product of the military industrial complex. We know that this guy of a product of this machine. this killing machine and in that respect he is a product of some military operation right this is a guy who has been trained to kill and to kill in such a horrific way and such an amoral way and so to me it's like it's almost like the negligence thing it's like foreseeable that this guy will end up doing something else once he's out of the military right hell yeah yeah and listener you'll learn all about that when our down by a law series gets to torts yeah if we can get that one if we can get that final edit published yeah but that's a great point and you know trained to kill
Starting point is 00:28:48 a morally and trained to kill for money for a paycheck yes yep and so the susceptibility of these trained killers to go and carry out more atrocities for that scrylla is ever present, ever present. You know, we're one of these days, we've been in touch with Seth Harp about doing an episode with him on his book that has really mainstreamed a lot of these critical narratives. And that book is, of course, the Fort Bragg cartel about the U.S. special forces that were doing largely the exact same types of activities in Afghanistan, especially during that very protracted war, including, you know, murdering civilians, including drug trafficking, including drug use and addiction. And I guess the point being, it's not just foreigners, it's also our very own U.S. born and bred boys that are susceptible to these same forces because as harp traces in his book, you know, a lot of these special ops guys come back home to sell drugs, to commit more violence, to work even with international. drug smuggling networks, and to keep the cycle going, the cycle of illicit criminal activity.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And again, to shout out our friend Guy Debord, this is the mafiaization of the state. The state is organized crime. The CIA, as Doug Valentine, another friend of the pod, has called it, the CIA is organized crime. these elements converge. And the very suggestion that anybody within the political establishment has ever voiced a critical perspective on this to get any traction whatsoever, I would love to see it. But as mentioned, you know, and I will repeat it at the risk of, you know, repeating a point already made in this short episode. But it was Obama, Barack Obama, who turned the focus of the war to these special forces, these black ops, these vicious and brutal night raids, to take it underground and to really take the gloves off. You know, Dick Cheney talked about it. Dick Cheney walked so that Barack Obama could run in a lot of respects, right? absolutely i want to just go back to the point on the you know the government being a criminal
Starting point is 00:31:52 organization because it does implicate a recent episode we did on venezuela where we're talking about this purported plan to treat narco traffickers as terrorists and all the shit that they're doing by the way we still don't know anything about these 80 or so individuals who have been killed by the U.S. government in the Caribbean. We don't know anything about them, but my point is that, you know, when the government is saying we're going after the narco-traffickers, you can be damn sure that's a lie because the government are the narco-traffickers. The intelligence community very much needs the illicit drug market, because what does that do
Starting point is 00:32:40 for them. That gives them an avenue to work with cash. And we all know cash is untraceable if done right. And they use that money to, I don't know, arm certain rebels that they want to arm, fund certain coups that they want to coup and they can do it all outside of the ledgers of the government. So the idea that, you know, the drug war is going to be ended by the government, like the government needs that side of the coin to exist for their own operations. Absolutely. I'm very glad that you brought that up, and I have two points in response. One, not only does the government need cash to be flowing on the streets, which is one of the
Starting point is 00:33:29 great positive externalities from the government's point of view about the illegal drug trade, But the financial system also benefits from that movement of cash, right? Because you can imagine the money supply consists of, I don't know what the percentage is, but let's just guess and very conservatively guess that well over 75%, and I would bet it's well over 90%, but I want to just be extra conservative because I don't have the stats in front of me of the global money supply is electronic only, right? It doesn't exist. Yep. But its value derives from that existence, that physical existence of the other 25 to 10% of cash circulating on the streets. And it's, of course, laundered through financial institutions that get caught
Starting point is 00:34:35 time and time and time again laundering dirty drug money. And they get slapped on the wrist and again, rinse and repeat, the cycle continues. I remember an episode of Ghost Stories for the End of the World from, I think it was a couple of years ago, that he really dug in on H.SBC and their long, long history of money laundering. Go check that out if you haven't. But the point is, you know, everybody that wears a tie and a suit to work and that has a house in the suburbs, they're living at the top of the pyramid when the bottom is crime, murder, drugs, all this shit, right? This is what we mean when we talk about the fusion of this and organized crime.
Starting point is 00:35:26 The other takeaway that I wanted to bounce off of your mention of our Venezuela episode, as it is Thanksgiving, you know, we are, again, on the warpath, the troops and the covert operators that are down there in South America, in the Caribbean, on the strike force under the helm of the USS Gerald R. Ford, they're not joking around. They're gearing up for a hot boots on the ground type of a war, of a drone strike type of a war, of a mass casualty type of a war.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And we've seen this fucking movie before. It doesn't end well for anybody. And please, please, don't keep it off the radar because nobody really seems to want to talk about it, and those who do talk about it seem to not have any fucking clue what they're talking about. You know, the U.S. is on the cusp of invading another country for its oil and natural resources under utterly fabricated pretences. The lies are so low effort and transparent that it's almost not even funny to,
Starting point is 00:36:51 look at it's just gross and the lack of any pushback is distressing to say the least false pretenses i will say also like from just anyone who knows anything about the history of the united states and the the world anyone who's got maybe more than two brain cells to rub together all signs point to that this will be an absolute disaster like they are full on leroy jenkins going into this thing and almost like excited about the fact that it could be an absolute disaster yeah yeah yeah well say this year please no thanks no thanks to war with venezuela no thanks to a crackdown on political dissent and identity groups that are associated by guilt by association with these acts of so-called terrorism and no thanks to wars of empire it's enough already we don't really have any excuse to play along with this bullshit we should know better by now you know dick and I we're not that fucking old and we're old enough
Starting point is 00:38:15 to remember this movie has a horrific ending and this spectacle is but the reflection of bloodlust at a scale really unimaginable to the individual. So good Lord. I mean, these zero units in Afghanistan alone were killing thousands of civilians, right? Yeah. Face to face, like not even bombing them from the air, like busting into their houses at night and just shooting motherfuckers, you know, women, children, men. on the flimsiest of evidence yeah i you know this movie we've seen it before i'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:38:59 we it's a movie that actually just seems like it's never ending yeah like this we're in like a four hour long fucking movie that is it should have ended a while ago but it keeps going it keeps repeating the same fucking plot line and it's it's getting to really wear on my soul but I think maybe to to close things off maybe we talk turkey a little bit talk Thanksgiving you know I want to first of all did you hear J.D. Vance's thing to this to the troops the talk he gave no scandalous he's talking to the troops this guy is such a fucking joke he is trying to take on the role of like full edge Lord based man you know that and
Starting point is 00:39:50 to the troops he's saying uh turkey's disgusting you know i hate turkey we all hate turkey we hate eating turkey and no one's really laughing but he's making this joke this tired-ass joke i think that everyone's heard about how turkey is not the best bird and that we shouldn't be eating it but we do and jd says we do because we're americans and that's what americans do baby and honestly i think this is coded some way it's like trying to send this subliminal message to americans like yeah we're americans we do shit we don't want to do because we're americans we're americans we go into other countries and destabilize their government their economy we don't want to do that but we do it because we're americans we
Starting point is 00:40:40 eat turkey because we're americans fuck that But maybe back to the Thanksgiving thing, like, you know, I don't really. I like turkey anyways. I do. I like turkey. I was going to ask you, I don't care for the holiday because of all of the weight behind it. But I was going to ask you, what's your turkey recipe? Do you got one?
Starting point is 00:41:04 You know, I have not really, no. I have only done a turkey a couple of times in my life. I usually have some other family members. bird yeah well for me you know this is something i don't even know if you know this don but as the child of immigrants i was actually the one who brought thanksgiving to my family as like a seven or eight year old kid after going to public school for a bit and seeing that this is something that people do and i you know our first thanksgiving as a family i was taking the charge i was sort of orchestrating everything you can imagine it was like a it was like a it was like a
Starting point is 00:41:46 a little restaurant manager on the floor telling people how a Thanksgiving table is supposed to look but over time I have gotten into actually cooking and here's my advice listener you got to do a wet brine you got to do a wet brine give it a day give it a day or two drop that bird in there let it let it get juicy yeah and then when it's time to cook cook bring it out let it sit and dry out if you can let it sit and dry on the fridge that's you're making you're making good progress do not stuff your bird when you're cooking oh yeah non-controversial and lots of butter under the skin i like to do just a simple sort of salt pepper poultry herbs don't go crazy with it it you know simplicity is the key yeah you got enough
Starting point is 00:42:43 bells and whistles in the side dishes to liven it up maybe maybe before we sign off we do a little moment of gratitude what you're grateful for what you're looking forward to yeah absolutely uh obviously you know i'm grateful for you dick my brother uh you know recording this it brings us really back to the roots of the podcast as a concept because we used to live in the same city and then we didn't anymore and so we would have these nice real soul refreshing long telephone conversations and one day we were just like you know you don't hear too much on these topics in quite the way that we can hit it and we have a real friendship here that withstood the addition of distance into the mix. So why not bring that little magic out into the
Starting point is 00:43:47 world, see if people like it? And this is in many ways then a throwback to that very early days, you know, when Fourth Reich Archaeology was just a zygote of a concept. Just a twinkle in our eye. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm thankful for where we brought it. I'm thankful to all the listeners, obviously, had a chance to connect up with another listener recently in real life. It's always a blast. It's always great to meet folks and to, you know, make these connections real. We're not doing this for parasycial clout or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Like we're just trying to, you know, be good, responsible people in the world and to make some use. of whatever insights and knowledge that we have. And, you know, I'm thankful that we're going to keep going strong. And, gee whiz, I'm thankful that we still have our day jobs to keep the lights on while we ramp this baby up. Yeah, I am thankful for you, Don. I am thankful for this project that has been keeping. me sane for the last year and a half or so listener if you like this setup if you like what we're
Starting point is 00:45:18 doing where it's more of a raw take let us know because this one we go down as the easiest episode we've ever done planned this morning yeah i'd be glad to keep putting out more conversational sort of off-the-cuff stuff um but i am grateful for our ability to to touch the hearts and minds of so many people. I am so grateful for all of our dear listeners. I hope that they all have a restful and happy holiday with their families. I'm, of course, grateful for my family. Got a shout out to my mom and my mother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And, yeah, I mean, the thing that I think for this next year that I'm really excited about is how we've just been able to conclude. to grow and I can't wait to see what this next year has in store. I would be remiss and I would be remiss if I didn't also say how grateful I am to all of our family in this community and I'm talking about all of those lovely individuals that came on our show in this last year and a half and spent some time with us and really supported the project. We're talking about Max Good, Jeff K, Matt Farwell, Max Arvo, can't forget, Isaac. There's so many, so many.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Jacob Silverman, of course. And congrats to Jacob for his book. You know, we don't get any cut of it, but please go out and buy it. If you haven't, gilded rage, it is all the rage and it lives up to all the hype. and we're going to have him back on to talk about it. We want to thank Truenon for having me on and expanding our reach to their listenership. We want to thank Subliminal Jihad and Dimitri and Khalid over there, brothers from a long time ago, longtime homies and conversation partners that we finally got on record with them,
Starting point is 00:47:32 as well as the Left on Red Pod. You can see all of our work there on those podcasts. Oh, better not forget the man, Matt Crumpton and Solving JFK podcast. You know, we really straddle a lot of different areas of coverage. We're not really in one lane in particular. And I think that's part of what makes this a special program, at least it is from my perspective, that we can kind of talk to the JFK people and talk to the whatever, noided communist.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Former congressional staffers. Oh, Andrew Meislich. Yeah, can't forget Andrew the homie. So we've made a lot of friends along the way. And they're really like, you know, it's been great experiences all around. It's been beautiful. And to think we're just two guys.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Listener, when we tell you, we're just two guys that are doing this in their, free time because we love the game. It's all for the love of the game. We love bringing out this content. We'll continue doing it for as long as we physically are able to. Honestly, whether you tune in or not, because this is something that we, at least I don't want to speak for you, Don, the world needs this message and we are humbly trying our best to provide it. And if you didn't believe that we are just two dudes that don't really do this full time until now. Well, just listen to the quality of this audio because we really are just, I'm here in a car
Starting point is 00:49:13 trying to get, trying to get it out. I think Don, you sit here in a garage or something. Yeah, you might hear the, uh, my dad walked in and out a couple of times. A garage door went up and down. So, uh, look, we, we love you all. We thank you all. We can't wait to keep on digging with all of you and with that i'm don i'm dick saying farewell keep on digging american blood american brains american sheds swirling all the world's drains and every time you flush somebody is getting paid All this machinery, you know, it wasn't cheaply made. We pulled out the stops, which spared no expense, but a peduitous system that's built on violence,
Starting point is 00:50:19 the control of which is best left up to us. because we're the only ones have the tools to keep it up there is always risk involved creating problems to be solved but we specialize in manufacturing narration Converting tragedy into consolidation An aberration in the heartland of the reed.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Forget your thoughts, we're going to shape the way you feel. shine in the heartland of the real. Why don't you have a seat? I'd like to make a deal. Give me American blood, American brains. I'll lend you the horse, but I'm holding the reins. You'd better hold on tight because the ride is getting If you put up a fight, I just might have to throw you all.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So get in the car, you don't say a word. We need to keep an eye on the earth. You don't get it now, I guess you never will. No more practicing now this is not a drill It's really happening you've been programmed to kill An aberration in the heartland of the reed Forget your thoughts, we're going to shape the way you feel. In aberration in the heartland of the real.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Why don't you have a seat? I'd like to make a deal. I can offer you the next step. on your path You'll want for nothing but you never can go back Psychosis is the sentence for your crime Accepted gracefully Start serving out your time
Starting point is 00:53:41 Doing American drugs in American pain The name of the game is called Going Insane And the players are a robot to go all in And when they bet you know the house will always win So go with the flow Move it along, pretend that you don't know the theme of this song Just drop it in the bucket label right in row As we persuade you to pursue total control
Starting point is 00:54:32 Who are you two denies of that goal Much better to accept your predetermined role. An aberration in the artland of the real. Align the pig is up, I like to hear them squeal. An aberration in the heartland of the real Don't bother sitting now You'd best get down And
Starting point is 00:55:32 Thank you.

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