Fourth Reich Archaeology - The Big Con(gress) 3

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

We are back with another installment of the Big Con(gress)—our ongoing exploration of that putrid cesspool on the Potomac, the United States Congress.  In this episode we turn our focus back to the ongoing genocide in Palestine in the wake of yet another visit to Washington by notorious international war criminal, mass murderer, and genocidaire extraordinaire, Benjamin Netanyahu. With us again is Andrew Myslik, a former congressional staffer and our man in Washington.We are now well into the second year of the Palestinian genocide. The utter lack of humanity that the members of Congress have shown to the Palestinian people is despicable. Rather than call for Netanyahu’s arrest and condemn Israel’s war crimes, which to be clear is absolutely warranted under international law, both the Trump administration and the vast bulk of both parties in Congress have, once again, rolled out the red carpet for the man. Join us as we look into not only why that is but also how this blind loyalty has played out over the last 20 months. We start with the obvious—the Israel lobby is moving a lot of money and effectively steering the ship when it comes to US political discourse about the Middle East. But we also dig deeper, and discuss the many different forms of moral and mental gymnastics that US Politicians must engage in to justify their acceptance of Israeli blood money. This one gets a little spicy, so we’ve decided to only release part of the episode on the free feed.  Head on over to Patreon.com/fourthreicharchaeology and subscribe to listen to the whole thing.

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the listener check out the preceding entries in this series before proceeding ahead. But that first episode was a coverage of the landscape of Congress. We discussed the functioning of Congress at a high level and especially paid attention to the staff level and both how congressional staffers can make a real positive impact in the lives of their members' constituents and also how the staff level, just like the membership, level is prone to corruption in many of the same ways that members of Congress are prone to legalized old-fashioned American-style corruption. Then in episode two, we focused our lens on budgeting, and particularly we focused on the big, beautiful bullshit that both houses of Congress passed and that is now wreaking havoc on the American people by stealing from the poor and giving to the military industrial complex and

the ice gestapo goon squad that is well funded for its black bag operations on poor people of color throughout the nation. Today, we are once again going to place our focus, as we have done on Fourth Reich archaeology in a few past episodes in Palestine and the ongoing genocide there being carried out by really a joint venture between the United States and the state of Israel. We are recording this on July 15th in the wake of yet another visit to Washington, D.C., by the notorious international war criminal mass murderer, Genesee D.R., not to mention utterly corrupt fascist ghoul, Benjamin Netanyahu. And of course, the fawning members of the United States Congress, rather than calling for his immediate

arrest, which, to be clear, is entirely warranted and required under international law, the Trump administration and both sides of the aisle opened up their arms, they got on their knees, and they licked his blood-stained boots. They rolled out a red carpet that could have been died with the blood of his victims. As Andrew's former boss, Rashida Taleb, tweeted on the occasion, genocide is bipartisan. Today, we are going to look not only why that is, but how it works in practice this bipartisan support for genocide and how it's played out over the past 20 months. So without any further ado, let's get digging. Growing up in Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible. Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed.

And from my perspective, I want to be on the blessing side. Where is that? I can find it to you. I don't have the scripture off the tip of mine. Tip of mine. You pull out the phone and use the But nothing changes what I just said, that I'm always going to stand on the side of Israel. Always. Let me be clear, contrary to allegations against Israel made by the International Court of Justice, what's happening is not genocide. We reject that. We're going to go to Washington this week and try in the Senate to get supplemental funding,

not just for Ukraine now, but also for Israel and Israel's defense. Israel's defense. I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that we support Israel. Israel has to finish that job. They have to finish it quickly, strongly, and they have to get back to life again. It's taking too long. They have to finish the job. You're saying go win, win and finish. win. Got to win. Some members of Congress who have called for a ceasefire and they have not gone as far as backing the administration's call for support for Israel.

So look, I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're going to continue to be very clear. We believe they're wrong. We believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful. What's important right now is supporting Israel defend itself against terrorists, you know, in a way that holds up the law of war and protects its civilians. That's what we want to see at this time. Well, Andrew, I'd like to start our discussion today with the obvious, the Israel lobby. Everybody knows about the Israel lobby. Everybody is familiar with APAC, the American. an Israel Public Affairs Committee and the vast sums of money that it throws around to keep its claws firmly gripping the steering wheel of the ship of state. I'm going to ask you about

how it works in practice, but I wanted to just list off some quick APAC stats. In 2024's election cycle, APAC compiled over $51 million in political campaign contributions, 65% of that went to Democratic candidates. I guess the Republicans will support bloodthirsty Israeli genocidal policy for free. And that 51 million, of course, is exclusive of the massive of the massive amount of additional dollars that come pouring in from Israel adjacent political action committees and companies such as those that make up the military industrial and surveillance complex and as we know they throw around a good deal of cash as well so Andrew you know the lobby's power at this point is totally an open secret so what I

want to know is how do these members keep on spouting these ridiculous pro-genocide talking points when it's transparently ghoulish to do so and even voices like Tucker Carlson on the right wing have criticized them for doing this? There's a number of answers to that question. I mean, The easy logistical one is they receive them every single day. As a staff of her for Shita, I may have signed up for them just to get myself some intel, right? And what do you mean by them? Apex, email updates, excuse me. And they send them every single day to members of Congress and their staffs and everybody on their list.

So logistically speaking, what you're supposed to be saying is in your inbox in the morning. you know, whether you want it or not. And how they sleep at night, that's a really interesting question. I mean, a lot of them, I mean, it differs from candidate to candidate. Some just are interested in winning and in this current model that's not a democracy. Money generally, not always equals winning. And so they, you know, ignore it in favor of being. in power you know there's definitely a crew that think it's worth it and then you know we're able to

fight other fights and just not this one which i think is kind of ridiculous yeah and the other question i was really curious to ask you is what about at the staff level i mean there's obviously a generation gap between your average geriatric member of congress and the members of their staff that are made up by much younger people, and there's also a huge divide in opinion polling on the question of U.S. support for Israel between elderly folks and the younger generations. So is it kind of trickled down into the staff level, or is there more candor among staffers of, well, the boss is about to go and spout some. bullshit about Israel right now.

Yeah, you know, it totally depends, right? The, not to say that again, but some members, you've got staffs who totally disagree with their boss. I mean, particularly when Rashida was censured during that BS, there were literally, of the Democrats who censured or some of their staffs like brought us food and were like, we can't stand our boss, like direct quote. which was pretty entertaining. But, you know, you have other offices in which the people doing foreign policy in particular are real, you know, hardened APAC folks.

They are that came from that field or that world or are planning on going into it or in some other way the national security community and understand that if they want to be in the national security community and in, you know, the club, as it would be, they have to acquiesce to Israel at minimum and tow the line on this one because they're, like you mentioned, so much of the lobbying that is related to Israel is not even by APAC, it's by corporations who are invested in the continuation of that apartheid project and its success or just in the continuation of selling weapons and the continuation of death. Yeah, it reminds me of something that you were describing, I think, in our first episode together, which was that you can kind of tell at the staff level also who wants to climb up that ladder, who's really using their position as a jump-off point,

either into a lucrative lobbying gig or into seeking office themselves. And I I would assume that the people of that mentality are going to be a lot more careful in parroting only the permissible discourse on the issue and not rocking the boat than somebody that is in there as you were to try and, you know, honestly help people. decide to shut up basically and ignore it or be quiet about it there's definitely it it is very interesting the attitudes about israel within the national security community which i had to be adjacent to and interact with a lot community i haven't met a single one that likes the israelis or you know their government and their military right which is very interesting and it's definitely a sector of that community and i think it's a growing sector that really aren't fans of Israel, even if they're not public about it.

And then, of course, there's a whole sector that just, you know, toes the line, yay, rah, rah. But the people that aren't as supportive tend to look like quiet, not like actually speaking out, if that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. And, I mean, evidently, whatever the case may be about those opinions being held, whether kind of be high and closed doors or even if they are voiced, They don't seem to penetrate the mainstream political discourse, at least in as much as the Congress is concerned,

because you very rarely hear nary a peep from either parties, representatives, challenging the absolute unity of interests between the United States and Israel. And we're going to talk in a little bit about the few instances where you do see some daylight emerging and what we on the broader left might make of that daylight. But it's definitely interesting to point out that, you know, beneath the veil, this is not a question of the CIA controlling Congress's talking points to favor Israel. It's notwithstanding CIA opposition to Israel, the Congress is in lockstep with it. So maybe that gets back to this question of the lobby. So let's talk a little bit more about it and about how it works in practice. So one misdirection that you hear a lot when members of Congress are hand-waving away their fealty, to the Israel lobby and the very monetary, pragmatic reasons for that fealty is they'll say

something to the tune of, well, you see, APAC is just a pooling organization, and it doesn't represent Israel or the Israeli government. In fact, it just represents all of its donors who are Americans with an interest in supporting. the joint American Israeli interests. For example, this was the exact argument that Ted Cruz made when pressed by Tucker Carlson recently.

So APEC raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually a misnomer because the people who raise money are individuals. So it's not the PAC itself, but they're individual members who believe in the American-Israeli friendship and relationship. Is it an A-PAC a foreign lobby? No, it's an American lobby.

It's the A-PAC stands for the America Israeli political action. What is it lobby for? So, to be honest, not a whole lot effectively. Listen, my understanding, having known a lot of people who are doing it back, is that it lobbies on behalf of the Israeli government. Wrong. Oh, okay. When was the last time APAC took a position that deviated from Prime Minister Netanyahu? All the time. No one. Okay. Let me go back and give a little history. If you want to do a deep dive on APAC. I don't. I want to do a shallow dive No, I want to get to the core question. APEC is lobbying for a foreign government.

False. It's not. It's lobbying for the United States? It is lobbying for a strong U.S.-Israeli relationship. Okay. So it has nothing to do with the foreign government? It wants America and Israel to be closely allied. Okay.

But it's lobbying on behalf of the interests of another country. So that's not true at all. It's not true. No. How much contact do you? Do you think APEC leaders have for the government of Israel? No idea. So I guess, first of all, I mean, is this even really true?

Like, what's your response to that? I mean, technically my understanding is, yes, that's how they work. But effectively, what they're doing is bundling donations that they have almost complete control over, if not complete control over, in the direction that they want. And when you look at the overlap between the Israeli government and employees of APAC and leaders of APAC, there's obvious connections there. And so what effectively you have is an organization that, if not is, to a certain extent, an arm of the Israeli government. It is certainly heavily influenced by the Israeli government and foreign actors there directing money. and directing donations.

That's about as clear a violation of FARA. I mean, that's a foreign agent, right? And it's not necessarily illegal if you register as such, but they refuse to do so because that would bring, you know, all sorts of transparency and oversight to their operations, which who knows what that would expose. Yeah, exactly.

To the listener, FARA, which Andrew mentioned, that's the foreign agents registration. Act, which effectively just requires anybody who's lobbying on behalf of a foreign government to disclose their financial interests on behalf of that government and to make transparent the activities that they're carrying out on behalf of that foreign government. It's the law under which former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was famously prosecuted for failing to register. So it's not that the lobbyists have to be foreigners themselves.

It applies to anyone, whether American or foreign, who is in the United States, advocating on behalf of a foreign government. I'm only trying to get to the question of what APEC is, and I don't think you're being straightforward about it. APEC is lobbying on behalf of the interests of a foreign country, and they're not registered. and you're saying, no, that's not true. You're saying that they don't coordinate with the Israeli governments.

And coordinate, they talk with them. I don't know what they do. But why don't you care? Isn't it meaningful if a foreign government... Hey, I talk with Israel all the time. I talk with foreign countries all the time. But the law is, and a lot of people have been prosecuted under this law, that if you are lobbying on behalf of foreign government, you must register.

That's it. It's really simple. And I don't know why if I'm working from Malaysia or Qatar or Belgium, and I'm working on behalf of its government's interest through a group of Americans who were representing the friendship between those two nations, I have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and if I don't, I can go to jail. And people have gone to jail, including people I know. So I don't understand why we don't just be honest and say they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government.

They're coordinating with the government. You know that that's true? That is not only not true. That is false. They're not coordinating with the Israeli government. Now, as far as the mechanics of it, I've heard, I don't know if you've heard this clip of Thomas Massey, doing an interview where he says basically that, you know, APAC will take members on a all-expense-paid trip to Israel as soon as they get elected, and then that each member of Congress is assigned an APAC liaison.

Everybody but me has an APAC person. What does that mean an APC person? It's like your babysitter, your APAC babysitter, who is always talking to you for APEC person. They're probably a constituent in your district, but they are, you know, firmly embedded in APAC and... Every member has something like this? Every... I don't know how it works on the Democrat side, but that's how it works on the Republican side. And when they, and when they come to D.C., you go have lunch with them. And they've got your cell number, and you have conversations with them.

So I've had, like... That's absolutely crazy. I've had four members of Congress say, I'll talk about you. I'm going to say, I'll talk to my APEC person. It's literally what we call them my APEC guy. I'll talk to my APEC guy and see if I can get them to, you know, dial those ads back. Is that something that you were able to observe, albeit from an office that certainly would not have had such a liaison? Well, I'm sure they had a whole team of people for Rashida, but they certainly weren't talking to us. But, yeah, I mean, that's obviously.

occurring. And we've had enough people. I mean, Marjorie parroted that, you know, said basically the exact same thing on that Tucker Carlson interview she did. You know, they assign a specific person, probably several. I'd say they probably have like an influential community based front person and then they have a professional handler behind the scenes. You know, and they are the ones that manage Apex relationship with that member. They pay attention to everything that member. says and make sure it's in line with APAC exactly and if it's not they're the ones that raise hell about it or make threats or whatever it may be yeah and just having been raised in the jewish community in the united states in my case the reform jewish community which is

at least theoretically more progressive than orthodox or conservative Judaism this is felt very deeply in Jewish institutions as well. So the same people that are cracking the whip, so to speak, on members of Congress to keep them in line with the Israeli agenda, are doing the same thing with Jewish institutions like synagogues, Jewish summer camps, Jewish community centers, etc. and speaking up very loudly whenever any representative from such institutions steps out of line. And, you know, this in my experience is used to cement the identity between Zionism and Judaism, which just as long as we're talking about it, you know, I think we'll get to this in a little bit. but, of course, the allegations of anti-Semitism that are leveled against anyone who does not walk in lockstep with the Israeli agenda,

they're going to be tarred and smeared as anti-Semitic. And part of the reason why is because the lobby has also formed Jewish institutions around the interests of Israel. And it's, you know, artificial in a religious sense or whatever you want to say. I know some anti-Zionist rabbis, for example, who articulate an anti-Zionist interpretation of Judaism, but that exists within a very narrow sliffer. And it does because the lobby has been so successful at imbueing American Jewish identity with Zionism. And also just before we continue our discussion, take this opportunity to recommend a few documentaries that have come out in the last few years that really put a fine point on all

we're talking about. There's the Al Jazeera documentary, The Lobby, which has some great undercover footage of Israel lobbyists and I don't know if you've seen that Andrew I've seen a bunch of it I haven't actually watched the whole thing in one go but I've seen enough to confirm what I basically knew yeah what you experienced every day I would guess exactly yeah that's a great one and then there's this other one Israelism it's about this infiltration of Zionism into Jewish institutions. And actually, it's interesting, I think, on this topic, right, one experience I had that I found

really kind of quite moving was, I actually, I went to George Washington University and obviously because that school is in Washington, D.C., it was a real focal point of a lot of the student protests against the genocide and the encampments. And I, you know, was an alumni at that point, but ended, because it was right there, ended up going down a number of times. And, you know, after they got raided, the students, you know, ended up coming up and doing a press conference on the hill with us. And, you know, we're just basically, after all of that hanging out in our offices, just kind of decompressing. Most hadn't slept and had been in prison most of the night. And I remember one of the gals who was Jewish, there's a couple of them who

there and they had gotten their bat mitzvahs in the encampment and they'd gotten them because that was the first time they'd ever found an anti-Zionist rabbi who would be who was willing to give them a bat mitzvah as people who because of their Jewish beliefs do not support the actions the government state of Israel and it's really it's a deeply sad thing I'm not Jewish myself but I have a lot of Jewish family who you know very specifically because they you know friends and family, I should say, who because of their faith disagree with the actions of Benjamin Netanyahu and his whole cadre of lunatics. And it's, I don't know, it was, you know, they're getting smeared as anti-Semitic and yet it's the first place these young women ever felt safe

enough to publicly embrace their Jewishness. It's just kind of crazy when you see the reality versus what's being said on television. A hundred percent, yeah. And I would even expand it beyond Netanyahu and his cadre of lunatics to the entire colonialist project that certainly I had to unlearn a great deal of propaganda that I was taught through my education within a number of different Jewish institutions growing up to understand that, in fact, the Israeli colonial project has very little to do with the religion of Judaism. In fact, Theodore Herzl famously was himself an atheist and deeply admired British colonialists like Cecil Rhodes and sought their support for the colonization of Palestine.

And on that score, I'd also recommend folks check out the subliminal jihad podcast series on the colonial aspects of early Zionism during the Ottoman period that they really condense a massive amount of literature spanning a very long period of time and in solidarity with what your friends and family described feeling on that front as well there's not a better or more powerful motivating force behind the so-called rise in anti-Semitism which is obviously massively, massively exaggerated and hyped up, but I will say that the actions of the Israeli government in the name of the Jewish people and the knee-jerk reaction to tar any criticism of those actions as anti-Semitic is just about the strongest push for

real anti-Jewish anti-Semitism that could possibly exist, you know, and it's on purpose. It's totally on purpose because they want people to take out their reactions against the atrocities of Israel, against Jews, to feed in to the circular logic behind their apartheid regime. Exactly. And, you know, it's, there's a, I'd be really curious your thoughts on this, Don, actually, because it always struck me as this really, it's like a reversed dual loyalty kind of anti-Semitism that the pro-apartheid movement engages in, where they insist that in order to be Jewish, you must be loyal to Israel. And like that, to me, you know, I'm not Jewish, but that's like denying the Jewishness of my friends and family. And the many, you know, incredible Jewish. people who I've, you know, known over the years and been in this fight with over the years, I'm curious your thoughts, right? It strikes me as they are actually, their whole position is based on this kind of crazy, like I said, flipped like dual loyalty argument that they make.

That's really anti-Semitic in and of itself because they're trying to just say, you have to support, you know, Zionism or you have to support what the government is doing there in order to be Jewish. Yeah, for sure. I mean, and that's why, you know, I have declined to entirely shuffle off the vestiges of Jewish identity that I carry with me through life and feel an obligation to embrace a Jewish identity for the express purpose of mobilizing that identity within the Jewish community to. to add to the chorus of voices that reject that equivalence between Jewish identity and Zionist ideology. I think it's so pernicious and it's something that I think is very important for anyone, regardless of your age, who has a conscience to, call out those who would support this disgusting,

hateful, genocidal activity being carried out in their name. You know, the same way that as an American, even if that's not an identity that you strongly embrace or feel connected to, on a personal level, you nevertheless, by nature of living here or having been born here or whatever the case may be, as an American, you have some control or some right to speak up about how your government uses the money that you pay in taxes to commit atrocities and to enable and facilitate an aid and abet Israel in the commission of atrocities. So I think in both cases, you know, even though it's not like I feel a pride of the circumstances of my birth,

which I had no control over, I do embrace those dual identities. And I think that, you know, others should probably do the same thing to try and appeal to anyone that lays a claim on those identity categories. It's kind of like what we talked about in our recent July 4th episode, you know, the true meaning of the ideals that are used in pro-America propaganda, regardless of the fact that they've been abandoned and stomped upon since the founding of the country, through, you know, the founder's slave ownership or whatever, nevertheless, those ideals and the hypocrisy of the government that purports

to stand for those ideals is a entry point into the mind of anyone for whom those ideals carry meaning. I think it's the same for a Jewish identity and it's the same for a American identity. And I'm sure that the Alan Dershowitz's and Mark Livens and Ben Shapiro's of the world, right now would hear what I'm saying and say, well, that's why he's not a real Jew. He's just a secret agent using a Jewish mask to try and infiltrate the true genocidal baby killing, whatever, despicable identity that they lay claim to under the auspices of Judaism. Well, I say that they are a shonda Fidogoyim. They are a disgrace to Judaism, as I understand it,

and as any salvageable interpretation of Judaism ought to understand it. And I mean, you've just got me thinking on back to before all this. Right in the early days of the pandemic, there had been an election in Israel where half of the damn campaign, posters were like, we'll kill more of them, right? Like, very clearly, genocidal rhetoric. And there was a meeting with a number of activist groups from Israel with progressive members that I attended, with their staffs, I should say. And towards the end, I asked basically, you know, about that, right? And said genocidal rhetoric. And it's like, is this, you know,

what do you all think? And they were like, yeah, absolutely. The groups, were combatants for peace who are former, that's former IDF and former resistance fighters and then breaking the silence, which is just former occupation soldiers. But both of them, you know, they were basically those groups and then there's, you know, the Palestinian groups and the direct allies like Jewish Voice of Peace Right and US CPR, well, all these, you know, the standard groups, right, that are right in the middle of the movement. They're the only people who are saying it but like they were right there with us and you know just what you were talking about right there is a major reason why right and you throughout all this craziness I've ran into so

many people where that's true that you know in all the horror it gives you a little hope at least for sure for sure and it must I mean you you've got to hold on to your humanity I mean nobody would willingly raise their hand and say I a member of a death cult, right? Nobody would willingly raise their hand and say, well, I guess actually, maybe some people would, to say, I am a member of a master race and believe that my inferiors deserve annihilation. But most people wouldn't raise their hand and say that. Most people wouldn't willingly identify with that. And that's really all that I'm trying to convince. convey in my comments here is, you know, push people on that. Do you think that being Jewish

entitles you to eliminate an entire race of people? Maybe you do, and if so, you're psychotic. but assuming you don't then you really should think twice before co-signing the activities of a government and of a colonial project that is doing just that and that is empowering settlers who firmly believe and who act on that belief on a daily basis and that is also being done tax-free through U.S. charities, right? A lot of those settlers are supported by U.S. registered charities, effectively giving a U.S. subsidy to their activities. And that was Biden, Trump, the whole, you know, everybody's been on board with that one for a long time. And that is a perfect point to pivot us back to our discussion and our topic of discussion, which is really the Congress. And

its role in all of this, how the representatives of the people carry out these very unpopular policies in support of apartheid and of genocide. So I thought we could take a little roll call of what the Congress has actually done through legislative activities on behalf or at the behest of Israel. So you just mentioned one of tax-exempt status. Now, is that something that is done through regulation and administrative agencies, or is there legislation on that? I don't know the answer. I mean, legislatively, it's quite clear that they are ineligible for a tax-exempt status because of the activities of those settlers. I mean, they were, you know, these are members of entities or people connected to entities that, you know, might be U.S. designated or former

designated FTO, foreign terrorist organizations, or, you know, specially designated individuals clearly committing acts of violence, including acts of violence against American citizens. So there's really, if you actually interpret the law with, you know, facts in the world of reality, it's very, very clear. It is administrative decisions. And, you know, Rashid and a number other members sent a letter on this one well before the start of the genocide and tried to get any answers out of Biden's. I believe it was the Treasury Department, but I could be wrong. It could have been DOJ. I think it was Treasury, though. And they just, you know, played the silent treatment and refused to answer anything. So it's, you know, that is one way in which, I guess

that's more from the executive branch, right, but still, you know, that's another subsidy. there's the obvious, of course, all the weapons, and not just what is publicized in these sales and transfers. We also have a number, at least one, probably several pre-positioned stockpiles in Israel. The U.S. has these all over the globe. We basically pre-stage equipment in case we need it, you know, so there's a bunch in Poland and all over the place. And so we let the Israelis have access to that and go out wild in there and grab whatever they want. And, and, you know, and And so that's another way. Let's see.

I mean, yeah, there's, I mean, we're doing their bidding on the international scale. We were already doing that under Joe, but now it's even ramped up even more under Trump with, you know, like them targeting Francesca Albanese, the UN special repertoire with sanctions and, you know, going after the ICC, effectively tearing down the entire framework built literally because of the Holocaust. Yeah. a really dark irony in this. It's horrifying. But that's what they're willing to do to defend the Israeli apartheid project

and the ongoing genocide. So, you know, restricting free speech in the country. That's been quite obvious. So there's all of that as well. There's all sorts of exchanges and, you know, all sorts of bills, because we used to look at it when I worked for Rashida, is what's got to do with the apartheid regime

and with the occupation in this bill, you know, you're looking like the agriculture bill and the foreign operations bill and, you know, every bill had something, every single one of them, whether it was some sort of, you know, something, you know, like cooperation on traumatic brain injuries for veterans, right? Or, you know, something else. You know, they had versions, like I said, there was parts of it in the Department of Agriculture Bill. There's, it's everywhere, right? And how does that work? Like, what part? parts of the agriculture bill, it's hard to even imagine how that could possibly relate to Israel. Scientific cooperation, studies like that, access to, you know, grants. There's all sorts of things.

You know, it's not a bill I handled a ton, so I can't recall, like, an exact one off the top of my head. But I've definitely seen them. I mean, over the years, there's been, in everything. There's, in the Department of Justice One and DHS, for example, there's huge amounts. of money for the Israelis or for programs that are directly related to cooperation with the Israelis, like sending U.S. police forces over to be trained in the tactics that the Israelis develop on the laboratory of oppression that they've set up in Palestine. And does this have to do with, like, anti-BDS pledges as a condition for receiving government contracts or bids? I know that that's been a big issue at the state level and, like,

forbidding anybody who has participated in the movement to boycott, divest, and sanction Israel from speaking at state universities, for example. There was the Abby Martin case with the University of Georgia a few years ago, and there have been other cases where you basically have to pledge to support Israel or to not boycott Israel as a condition for receiving government aid is that something that has come up at the federal level do you know oh of course you know that's there that i'm sure at some point someone will be pushing a federal level boycott bill if it's not already been introduced in congress and i should say a boycott the boycotters right is effectively what they're doing but really i think the real reason behind that um kind of gets into why

i identify what we're fighting as not just like a zionist movement but really a broader pro anti-tide movement internationally. And that's because one of the most effective tools we had in this country and our forefathers had in this country for the civil rights movement and fighting, you know, at whatever stage it was, was the right to boycott and the ability to boycott. And so they want to use Palestine and use this issue to make the ability, to take away the American people's ability to boycott in any way, shape, or form that they can, because it's one of the few places we still have a voice, our economic power.

power in terms of spending. So it's really about promoting a return to apartheid here in the United States in addition to, you know, kind of the cherry on top of going after and, you know, making APEC happy and supporting the Israelis and their apartheid project overseas, which I think a lot of people like Ron DeSantis or Huckabee, you know, the Huckabees and those people, they all view that as what they want to recreate here in the United States. That's just my opinion. of them but sure seems what they to be what they want yeah and i mean at the end of the day there has to be some undergirding supremacist apartheid ideology beneath the surface of these approaches to policy that are in no respect coherent with the principles that they're

purport to cherish. I'm thinking especially about free speech, right? I mean, what is more anti-free speech? What is more speech restrictive than telling people that you are forbidden from opposing the policies of a foreign government? It's laughable to think that such an approach is consistent with the right. right to free speech. And here we are, you talk about economic, the free use of economic power. Well, that's exactly what citizens united and cases of that ilk are about. They are based on the principle of free speech and the equation of spending money on political campaigns or on political

issues with the exercise of free speech rights. So the Elbit Systems has the free speech right to lobby for and force the Congress to give it a bunch of money to make a quadcopter drones that will rip the limbs off of a baby in a tent in a Palestinian refugee camp one day. But if me as a private citizen wants to use my money to advocate for the boycott of the murderous genocidal apartheid regime of Israel, then I would run into all sorts of problems from, you know, your job to being ineligible for government benefits, to being barred from government facilities. It is absurd the level of hypocrisy that these people have no qualms whatsoever embracing.

And I don't mean these people as in Jews because obviously the vast majority of members of Congress who are the hypocrites I'm referring to are not. Jewish people. They are spineless people or they are craven people. They are certainly immoral people, but their religious identity is utterly beside the point. The main point is they are pieces of human shit. Amen. Well said. All righty folks, that does it for this week's episode. Thank you so much for tuning in. We do hope you enjoyed your time. If you want to listen to the full version of this episode, please hop on over to patreon.com slash forthright archaeology and join the club. Otherwise, we're just going to have to catch up with you next week.

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